From On-Air Slip-Ups to AI Deepfake Dangers

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello and welcome. I even begin some of my text
messages like that. Somebody messaged me today on social media
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a friend. That's how we spread the word about the
pirate ship.

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A lot of people listening to the to the pirate
ship apparently, yeah, apparently.

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and I have some special things that I have saved
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
Oh thank you.

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I'm really I'm really serious. So we're gonna get into that.
I have a lot of thoughts. Pete Frank is gonna
is gonna join it.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm sure, Pete love Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Pete is going to join us from both the zb
TV and then of course it's the Highway Boys and
they have that gig with the m and he's at
bTB on Saturday night. But you and I worked together
and I don't know if you remember when we when
we were doing a morning show, oh yeah and times
on Monday, like I started to slur my words. Oh
yea yea yeah, yea yeah remember this.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, it was right around the time Brett Michaels had
his stroke. We thought you had a stroke, remember yeah,
And you're like so then my face is like yeah,
Tommy's like brow, You're not right, bro, you might want
to go on the dot. And so we're about to
take you to the doctor. Also, Berkeley Breen calls from
Channel ten, Hey, can we do a story about swear
words on the air or something that You're like, yeah, sure,

(01:49):
come on in. So then Berkeley comes in and he
interviews us this and we had to show him like
how the how the dumb button works. I totally forgot
ran is a Rochester did Rochester Sensibility?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah I got that all the time. You know, there's
old news clips for me where it was always that.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah, shock jock with Rochester Sensibility.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Rochester sensitilities or a heart of something member. Because they
did it aidingway so stupid.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
That segment took forty five minutes. So they take the
we got this so we're like watch the You're like, Danny,
I gotta go to the hospital. So there's construction going
on a mount hop, right, so I got to bring
you to the hospital. I drove you.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, yeah, I go.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
You sure you don't want to Highland because it's no
take me as strong. I don't trust those people. I'm like,
all right because Highland, Like I go Highland. The the
er is like.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
To Ned now like okay, whatever it is. They're quicker.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, now just take me as strong. Okay, So I
take it as strong. You walk in with your bag
like it's no big deal. Next thing, you know, like
six hours later, I have a hole in my heart.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well they did think I did, and then I went
they did further stuff and I don't have a hole
in my heart. Yeah, way we should play that by extreme, yeah, which.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Actually I turned into a mash. I took every rose
has its thorn, and I slowed your voice down.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
With you and Tommy talking and uh, and.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Then we did a hole in my heart. Where is
all that shit? Gosh, it's it's in the ether. So
the guy who the guy who replaced our pal JT. Yeah,
purged all the stuff ah that we had like I had.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
A whole because I'd love to go back and rescue
all of that.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Sound great now it may be now our buddy Dave
three one five, he calls himself, damn three one five,
He calls himself with two m's. He gave me a
thumb drive, which I gave to you. It might be
somewhere you gotta dig though, but it might be somewhere
in there.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It could be labeled Billy's stroke. I have that in
my in my bag. Okay, it could be labeled Billy stroke.
We're gonna we gotta find We're gonna find it. Well,
I bring that up because I was scrolling through Instagram
and it happened to come across something that was similar
to that experience for me. This was a news anchor

(03:55):
at a TV station in Albany, New York, and it
happened a couple of years ago, like twenty twenty two.
So I wanted to well, here's what happened.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
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That exhibits going to bring even more events and exhibits
to the area in the future.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
And so moving on tonight.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Is we have to tell you also, you know, like
other news that's happening in the area and across the
you know, the area in the nation. Let me tell
you about this. A four year old girl is actually dead.
Another man is planning to life after shooting in Ohio.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
More than fifty million people across.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
The country southeast are under warnings for excessive heat and
boyd don't you know that one hundred and five degrees
in Texas today. I just spoke with my mother. That's
what she's dealing with. It's a major heat wave and
it is it. It's just heading everywhere. We're so lucky, okay,
all right, all right, So that was on there and

(05:08):
she said the tall prompt shut down.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
No, she said that her father had died and she
was just coming back from family leave for that and uh,
she was under extreme pressure and exhausted.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
So was the Mariah carry Inton It basically well, when
she went on TRLS, just blowing bubbles, yes, and they're like, oh,
does she have an She have an episode that happens.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Okay, so I look and there's a lot of pressure
to look good, present yourself well, especially on TV. Oh yeah,
radio you can. You could come in. I'm good morning, guys.
Ther fucking breath from down the Hawk and I knew
they didn't brust your teeth, Bob Wolf. Fucking God, that
was so nasty.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
So guys like like pour themselves a whiskey at eight
thirty in the morning.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
And here's the other thing. Well, yes we did do that,
but there was running an air out, but there are
other things like, uh with this right, a thirty second clip,
a minute clip gets out there. This poor lady, how's
she going to live that down? And she's trying to
say and she went through something ugly, right.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Well, I remember Pam Oliver on Fox Sports during during
an NFL I think it was a playoff game, and
she sounded like she was having a stroke. Yes, yes,
and they're like, oh, it's really cold out. They're trying
to like, you know, pr this thing to make it
sure because you know, Pam Oliver is a smart reporter.
So it's like, okay, what's going on? And I've had
complex migraines where I sounded like I was having a

(06:37):
stroke on the phone to my brother in law was
a doctor. You's got to get to an r right now,
are you sure? Like you start asking like it sounds
like stupid questions, but your mind is being hijacked.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
That's what happens. Stress can do that to people.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yes, okay, so the emotional toll of balancing somebody actually
died personally persons connected.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
There's a lot of stuff to do.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
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Speaker 5 (07:05):
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that out. Discover scnnectedy.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
You sure really checked that out.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
There are really so many good they do so many
good things as connected. Now, I would say, so you
feel bad for this lady, and you go, I don't
know exactly I can, but I can empathize with this.
But there are patterns in life that we look for.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Does this happen again? Well, I mean that's the thing
that was twenty twenty that was twenty twenty two, so
it's only three years ago. I don't feel like yesterday, folks,
but it was only three years ago.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
So then I do a little digging. Oh okay, and
I find a news story from July twenty twenty four,
so that would be last year.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Every rouse It's.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
A TV news anchor in Texas was arrested on domestic
violence charges after police said she broke her boyfriend's note.
She Heather Covar, Huh, this woman right here, let me.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
See all right, Thank you so much, Emma for.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
That is connected.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Nope. Heather Covar was arrested Monday night in college station.
According to court records, Covar was drinking Margarita's at a
Mexican food restaurant. Penn State went, well, no, this is
down to Texas.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Oh, it's our college station to Texas. I'm taking of
state college Wednesday. Okay, college stations.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
When she got into an argument with her boyfriend over
relationship issues they've been having. They went back to her
apartment across from the Texas A and M University campus.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
So she's no longer an anchor and in Albany.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
She left Albany, came back to she came back to Texas.
We heard she talked about her mom. The weather in
Texas it is so hot.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Uh. Covar punched him twelve times in the face, bit
his left arm, scratched his other arm. According to court documents,
he suffered a bloody broken nose, barricaded himself in the bathroom.
And she is the weekend anchor at KBTX was since
May twenty twenty three. They are investigating the manner. So

(09:08):
then I see another article and I go, oh, well,
here we go. A former Albany TV news anchor who
is no stranger to public relations issues when she worked
here in the Capitol region, was arrested in Texas after
a violent outburst that led to her breaking her boyfriend's nose.
According to a TV station in Texas, former WRGB news

(09:28):
anchor Heather Kovar was arrested Monday night in college station
after she allegedly drinking too many Margarita's at a Mexican
restaurant and then turning violent on her boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
And it's the same thing before they went live to
the actual Mexican restaurant.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Before working in Texas, Covar was part of the news
team at CBS six WRGB here in Albaney for about
six years. She had an incident back in July of
twenty twenty two where she appeared jittery and at times incoherent,
slurring her words while she was anchoring weekend newscasts at
the time. Covar said her bizarre television appearance was due
to exhaustion, while explaining that some personal issues exasperated the situation.

(10:08):
Short time later, can only play that card once, huh.
A short time after that, Covar was suspended by WRGB.
According to KBTX, her charge of assault and family violence
callising bodily entry as a class A misdemeanor. Yeah, so
she beat her boyfriend up. So when you go back
and you hear the inside edition report on her Albany thing,

(10:32):
you can kind of look at it with a different lens.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Now, yes, James, you just put pen to paper.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
On oopsprung guy.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
Well, hello, good turning on the six pm local news.
You don't expect to see this, like I was.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Telling you this morning.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
If you watched this this morning starting at six am,
seven am, I told you, you know what today, what
a beautiful day outside. It is just amazing.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
Heather Covar, the weekend anchor for WRGBT in Albany, New York,
appears to be slurring her words and rambling at times incoherently.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
More than fifteen million people across the country's southeast or
under warnings for excessive heat and void don't you know that?

Speaker 7 (11:13):
And when she tosses to the weather, she calls the
meteorologist by the wrong name and just keeps stumbling.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
This weekend right here, it is so amazing meteorologist Craig Adam,
right here here, Sorry, Craig Adam.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Why did I say that?

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Her train wreck performance is a far cry from the
put together anchor her viewers are used to seeing.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
It was a busy night for first responders in the
collar city with a fire, shooting and stabbing.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Right, So was she drunk on live TV? Covar says,
no way. In a statement, she insists she was suffering
from sleep deprivation and exhaustion because she had just returned
from family leave after the death of her father. The
station released this statement saying, Heather Kovar has been suspended
pending our internal investigation.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
All right, there you go inside of this a couple
of things. Here's what I was gonna say, kind of
a dick thing that that maybe they were doing here.
I'm just saying that there's a pattern. So and it
seems more drunk than exhausted. Exhausted just seems slur You're
like too happy about certain things and not other things.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
They actually died, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Like that to me is an indication of an altered
state of consciousness. Yes, not somebody who's having a medical condition.
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know if you know this, Dan,
I'm not a doctor. No, I know, I'm not a doctor.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
But do we have AI now?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
So that changes everything?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Let me throw depending on which croc you're willing to
pay for, let me throw this at you because you
you were probably gonna go here as well. I think
she did drink. I don't know if she drank a lot,
And I don't know that she wasn't on some kind
of medication. Sometimes, Oh dude, people will go on like
a low dose something to take the edge off. My

(13:00):
dad at one point said to me, with all the
shit going on during my He's like, man, I worry
about you. I worry about you, know, stroking out whatever.
You should consider that. My dad, who never said this stuff,
like consider that. So I'm just saying that a lot
of times, if you're on an antidepressant, you're not supposed

(13:20):
to drink.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
No, I can tell you from firsthand experience. Okay, Okay,
When I had a friend named Bill Moran who said,
you know, maybe should talk to somebody, and so I did, okay,
and I talked to somebody and they were great, and
I thought that, you know, for six months we're just talking,
things are getting better. Hey, we're gonna recommend you free
low dose antidepressant. I go, yeah, okay, so I did go.

(13:44):
So the doctor tells me you couldnt drink on this stuff.
I go, yeah, I don't drink much anyway, you know that. No,
not drink much is all it takes. See, there's not
drinking at all. Yeah, and there's not drinking much. Okay,
you can't drink at all on that stuff, not drink much.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Do you remember when you were opened the door?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I was on Soloft and then a touch of Ambilify.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay, oh the podcast before it was the podcast? Yeah right.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
So in other words, what happens is, uh, if you're
antidepressant isn't working, maybe you need a little bit more.
So the psych So the psychologist is the person who
talked to the psychiatrist prescribes the drugs. So after seventeen
minutes you fell out this form and like, okay, here's
what you need. Boom and so you can't drink on
this stuff. Dam I'm like, hey, I don't. I don't
drink any and you know that, right, I didn't drink,

(14:30):
but I could have a cocktail once in a while,
can't I. That's where the problems come in.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
This is what I'm wondering.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
That's where the problems come in. And then all of
a sudden, way, I did what I did what and
it was nothing bad? But it was nothing good either.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah? You know?

Speaker 4 (14:45):
And then I end up like apologizing to a to
a program director at one point, say hey, listen, man,
I honestly and because I said, like, I didn't realize
what I was doing, he goes, no, we know. That's
why we didn't like get angry, but we had we
had a suspicion something was up because you don't drink,
and we knew you were on medication because you talked
about it on the show.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
This is amazing, So that's why I know.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
So I don't take that stuff. I don't need to.
But I mean, let's put it this way. Uh, it's
not a good idea at all. And it's not just
because your liver, it's your mind will trip. It's like
it's like one drink, multiply it, yeah by two.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Or three, because I I was taken something for a while,
like a low dose, like well, twenty milligrams, it's more
a lot. I don't know, forty depends what it is. Yeah,
it was like, uh, I forget now, I just stick
the saffron. But I but I drank on it, and
I never I will affect everybody differently. Well usique alcoholsm
I fucking you know, billy believe bility believe well, I

(15:45):
do notice that. Here's the thing I had noticed was
after three drinks of any kind, I was walking a tightrope. Okay,
I was walking a tightrope because I would make some
really bad decisions. Now could that be just normal anything
for anybody? Because I'm drinking pints and I'm probably not

(16:06):
drinking eight ounce glasses of wine if it's that, or
if it's you know, you're throwing a shot in there.
So I'm just saying, on average three and then I
need to stop and drink a lot of water and
call it a day, or I'm gonna go down the
slope where it's gonna be twenty nine beers. Or if
I'm drinking beer or whatever, a couple bottles of wine
and then and that's when a lot of fun shit

(16:30):
can happen.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yes, yes, not always fun not always no. It depends
on who's interpreting the fun.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
This is true. It's not always fun the next day.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, it's never fun the next day.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's not so. That's why I would say it. But
I wonder if that's the case with this.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
It could be. Here's the thing though, that shit.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Her hair is a mess in the video.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
She's a fun But here's how did anybody the shit
out of her boyfriend? How did anyone if she were drinking?
Come on, we've been around people, We've been around adults.
We know when people are drinking. How do was she
allowed on the air? You got fifteen people watching that
thing just in the studio, right, You got your coworkers,
didn't got your producers, you got your directors, you got

(17:09):
your news director.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
It's the weekend, so cause do you have those people?

Speaker 4 (17:14):
You got? Well, you got backups. I mean you got somebody.
I remember one time there was a story where when
I worked at at WHAM, we were partners with Channel thirteen,
and the Channel thirteen anchor wasn't there at five o'clock
because I had to take the newscast for our news director.
For sound, we would steal their audio. It was a partnership,
and Norma Holland wasn't there. Mark McClain, the weather guy,

(17:37):
had to read the news okay because she had gotten
a flat tire or something on the way there. So
they always have somebody in the chamber ready to read
the news off the teleprompter. So something tells me that
this may have been a Saturday talk show where it's
more ad libbed and it's not read off the top.
Or maybe it was if it was the weekend, there
was a bunch of kids in the studio and they
didn't have the go go, hey, we got to get
this chick off the air. Is if she were to

(18:02):
be one, she should have never been on there in
the first place. Number two, if it's a health issue,
then it can't be a suspension. That is a medical issue.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, I think they found out she strik it had
to be on the air. Were the trunk too.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Here's another theory. They were all drinking that day, man,
and somebody had a little bit more sauce. You know,
I'll make this broadcast fun. Why don't we have a cocktail.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
You know what, because I've.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Heard of people bringing beer to work, bringing to work.
I worked on a show What Heather in the morning,
they had alcohol.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
If anybody knows Heather Cobar at all, tell her that
she needs to stop with the booze. Yeah, right, Like,
clearly she's got to stop. Because I found her Facebook
page and I was going to message her and then
I'm like, I don't know that I really want to
talk to her, and it looked like she may not
be on the news anymore. But she went to Red
Rock and somebody goes, I hope you find a man

(18:51):
to give you a good time in your life, not
knowing at the time that I looked at it that
she had broken her boyfriend's nose after punching him in
the How about that? As a dude, how patient are
you that she's biting your arm and you don't hit back?
So you had Margueritea's usually you're matching the person you're
drinking with.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I'm telling you, you.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Hit me in the face four times, honey, I'm oh, dude,
you hitting I'm.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Like, but but you are you are? You like?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
You're there's defensive going on. I'm moving, I'm I'm moving.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
So you were Chuck Finley slip row remember the picture
Chuck Finley. Chuck Finley, like the Yankees hated Chuck Finleycausechuck
Finley always found a way to beat the Yankees even
in their heyday. He was great against the Yankees. He
had Also, he had a girlfriend. He had a lovely girlfriend.
Remember her name though, Tawny Kataya.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
She is the one who always pissed me off in
the White Snake video because she got her fucking feet
all over the paint job. This beautiful car, Tawny Kataya,
an expensive katar car, excuse me.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Was arrested for beating the crap out of Chuck Finley.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
He finally were driving.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah right, like like he got the get they get
pulled over his Like, my girlfriend's beating me up, so
they arrest her. So this guy, this is before social media.
This guy gets all this crap from people. Beautiful girl
and Jim roll fall people. The voice of the reason goes, yeah,
and if he slapped her one time in self defense,
he'd be ruined. Of course, he goes, we should all
have the courage that that guy had to get pick
up famous.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Believe me, I've had my incidences in life. I've had
I've had things happen and I just.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Oh, dude, I had an next wife throw stuff at me.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I've stood there, I've been bloodied up. That's all right,
this story for another day. Anyway, there you go, Danny.
I just you know, was was there.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
A pattern with that?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
With what would that would that person who bloodyed you?

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Is there a pattern?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I have no idea?

Speaker 7 (20:38):
What?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
All right?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I plead the chick it was me and the heather.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Were you m'connery's win this whole thing took place? Okay,
all right? A Rochester anchor Maria Kovar slapped around former
Rochester talk to your host Bill Moran.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
We're gonna take him moment. Pete Frank from both ZBTV
and the Highway Boys, and there's a big gig with
the Highway Boys Saturday night at bTB. We'll be joining us.
I have some questions. I wanted him to come in
and just talk about like music and what he does
and that sort of thing, because I think it's a
unique thing that he has. And we found out on

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has talked to both Zach Brown and Zach Bryant.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Oh, we could compare the two zachs.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, name that Zach Zach Atack. We'll get to You're.

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Talking to Zach Morris from say the Belt.

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Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, well the Bowery, Uh, it was like a hole.
It used to be the bumps of the Bowery. Oh
yeah yeah yeah, yeah, so you're going back. Well, my
dad grew up in green Point, Brooklyn, Okay, and my
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so when you would talk of the Bowery was actually
a section. Now it's a bar, but there were like

(23:39):
Bowery bumps Okay, yeah yeah, we just played it last weekend,
The Bowery Fuck. Yeah, how fun is that?

Speaker 9 (23:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
They have some weird rules if you're bringing a bus.
If you're bringing a bus, they don't have parking for
a bus.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, it's New York City. Where the are you putting
a bus?

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
They send me out to Jersey.

Speaker 9 (24:01):
In the instructions, you have to arrive at a particular
parking spot in front of the venue between three am
and seven am.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Wowlucker.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I love when Brandy posts he wears the he dresses
so nicely. Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's like he really he's.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Got his own brand of cryptocurrency.

Speaker 9 (24:22):
Yeah, yeah, no, he I don't know what would you
do without him? Like, yeah, he is an integral part
of the the whole thing, Like.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Well, the thing I get with with Randy. Uh And
I don't know Randy well, but I get that he,
let me put it bluntly, gives a ship, and he
wants and he cares. He cares, right, he cares, and
he's going to do it. And if you ask him
to do something, he's going to do. And I met him,
honest to god, maybe twice three times. I got that

(24:55):
like right away, Like if he's in and he says
he's in, he's going to be all in.

Speaker 9 (24:59):
Yeah, he's at this point, he's turned into one of
my best friends. He's one of the people that I
can really count on. Yeah, and you know, even the
stuff when I you know, run things by him. Hey,
we have this gig on Long Island, and if we
could hop on the ferry, we could get to the
other gig in like an hour and a half. But
because we can't hop on the ferry, it's going to
be a six hour drive with the bus. Yeah, so

(25:22):
like we have to leave after.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Because you have your own bus that you guys, Yeah,
we travel yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:28):
Really, like we're one. We're the only band I know
west of Poughkeepsie that has a pre vote.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Wait second, Wokeepsie. I grew up in Poughkeepsie.

Speaker 9 (25:37):
There's there's supposed to be some band in Poughkeepsie that
has a prevost XL two that that is at our level.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Really like, yeah, do you remember like Scott Wild from
Stone Tip of Pilots when he died, that was the
very bus that they have.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Now really.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
To ten Rogers though, okay.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
It gets you wait did you have Kenny Rogers?

Speaker 9 (25:59):
It was the two thousand tour for Kenny Rodgers. He
had three of these buses painted exactly the same. We
have one of the crew buses.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh wow really yeah, yeah, it's you.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
Know on nineteen ninety nine. Smell the cushions, but there's
twelve bunks in it, everybody, Yeah, crash out. Awesome, dude,
it's it's legit, like when it doesn't have a shower.
So we get we and we do get hotels like
every night, like for the most part. Yeah, unless we
absolutely can't.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
But yeah, it's it.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
It makes it so we can travel as much as
we do because we travel a lot.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, I see that, and the popularity I mean, I
mean down playing the Bowery and All is a pretty
big deal. Did you also play the Beacon?

Speaker 9 (26:43):
We have not played Okay, Okay, okay, although I thought
I heard them. Yeah, yeah, I've tried to get in there. Yeah, like, yeah,
we have not getting in there, got in there?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yut. Well, I'm just thinking like the Almond Brothers used
to do like five nights speaking theater and that was
always a big deal.

Speaker 9 (27:02):
And there's some big rooms that are like like Darryl's house.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Oh god, that well, now that's in Okay. So Daryl's
house is in Pauling, New York, Yes, which is near Poughkeepsie.
It's where I grew up down there, and Darryl used
to come into and it made me a bigger Hall
and Oates fan. Yeah, because he can't. I liked Hall Oats,
I always did. The only song I didn't like was
Mann Eater. I thought it was a piece of shit.

(27:26):
I really didn't. I thought they fucking gave up. I'm like,
what is this? But you know there's other songs. There's
a there's a beautiful song called I'll Wait. Yeah, that's
I love that song. They have about a dozen really
great and now they're in a fight or whatever. They
can't be in the same room. And then I went
to I don't fucking know, because Daryl could be a dick,
and Daryl would come into the deli in this it

(27:49):
was if you're ever down that way, check out Adam's
ferrick Or Farms. There's one in Kingston, New York, and
there's one in Poughkeepsie and I worked there. It was
a nicer It was like, yes, it was a mini
Wegman's kind of but you know, had the higher end stuff.
Like in the early nineties they had chocolate covered coffee
beans and I would go over and just shove like
eighteen thousand of them into my mouth and work in

(28:11):
the deli. And I remember this one lady.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Going, uh, do you swim?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
She was like an older woman.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
He loves to tell the story.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
I was like eighteen nineteen years old and I had
one of those you know, rayon shirts that button down
and I go, no, I lift weights, and the fucking
guys I worked with would never let me live that
town I which was the greatest thing, because you need
to be humbled, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, you need to be Was it one of
those shirts that changes colors? No hypercolor shirts.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
The hypercolor shirts, this is pre that. But she's like
very much of V And I was like, and I'm
going to this woman. At the time, I think I
might have been twenty nineteen, twenty years old, and I
was like, you had to be thirty five something. I
was like, where is this gonna go?

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Now?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, this is what I'm saying. And my buddy at
seventeen had banged this hot woman. She was forty two
from New York City because up there a lot of
people had weekend homes. And then like a week later,
he shows up with flowers at her house and she's
got her boyfriend there and his fucking the whole world
came crashing in and That's why I always go when

(29:20):
I see teachers with boys like fifteen, I go, there
could be some emotional fuck up there. You better get
that kid to therapy. Just just say it, you know,
just a little bit.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Depends on the kid, I guess.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
But all that, all that aside. I the Adarrel would
come in and he stopped coming in because people were
kind of bothered for autographs and things us like Pittsford,
you got it. And he's very he's very tall, and
so he would stand out. And then I went to
see them at SEMAC and something went wrong on stage.

(29:55):
Oh and he lost his fucking loses. Yeah he did
about this, yes, but like you could tell, like he
kept it low key, but he's looking around. I'm telling you,
nobody in the audience could tell something went wrong. Nobody could,
but he totally could and lost his ship. I didn't realize.
I thought you could get tickets to the taping of

(30:17):
Darryl's House. You can't, Uh, well, the real one, the
one I know, the one on TV, you can't.

Speaker 10 (30:24):
Like.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I love watching those sometimes. I love the show because
he'll sing, like if he does it with you know
Tommy what's his name? From a Shaw from Styx and
they do stick songs and and some songs with Hall
and Oates songs. And then he did it with I
saw him with who is Rob Schneider's daughter you're.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Talking about, Yeah, el King.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
El King, el King, he did it with her, and man,
fucking el King is a blues singer. She's great. Like
that was the ship I love. But he as that
venue down there and it's a lot of bands, like
I was looking to go there, but I'm like, wait,
this isn't the thing I'm thinking.

Speaker 9 (31:08):
What I envisioned in my head and what we showed
up to see you were two very different things.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
And I'm not saying anything bad about it.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
It was one of the fucking roadhouse.

Speaker 9 (31:18):
Yeah, it was one of the quietest stages. The stage
was so dead that the drummer could hit the snare
drum and it just disappeared like the apparently they have
sixteen feet of foam in the roof above the stage
that just absorbs all the sound. Yeah, it was a
dead stage where.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
You know that's gonna be hard to how does it
because I.

Speaker 9 (31:39):
Know it's great. Oh, it's great because the sound doesn't
bounce around. So so what your monitors is playing for you?

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Is what you hear?

Speaker 9 (31:46):
Oh wow, so you're not hearing a ton of like
drum bleeding and you know the bass bleeding and everything
like that. Yeah, but it was a great room.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
I bet you.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
It only seats two hundred and fifty people, like, and
that's chair to chair.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Oh no, it was.

Speaker 9 (32:01):
Everybody was I'm a kind of a bigger guy.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:05):
My shoulders were one and a quarter wider than the chairs.
Like if I were to sit in one of their chairs,
both of my arms would be hanging outside of the chair.
And it was like chair chairs the room. Just stand
up and like no, no, no, can't stand up. No,
it's to sit down. Everybody's at tables and they're basically
like like wedding like long wedding tables.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:25):
Like so you get a seat, you buy a seat,
and if you're not skinny enough, you're probably gonna have problems.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
The entire time.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah that kind of sucks.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, I yeah, the whole night. I was just like, man,
they're like crammed in here.

Speaker 9 (32:39):
Everybody's trying to spread out, and like we have country
drinking folk, Like we appreciate our country drinking folk. They
you know, they have houses out in the middle of
nowhere for a reason, Like I have a house out
in the middle of nowhere for a reason. I like
my space, like and uh yeah, I was just.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Like, man, they're just crammed. That's that's not that's not good.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
No, but we sold it out and it was it
had a good night, and uh, well what is.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
It about these two artists, Zach Brown and Zach Bryan
that kind of because they got to connect with you
pretty deeply as a performer. Yea right, I mean, how
do you channel the energy for these Well, the Zach
Brown thing what I I just fell in love with.

Speaker 9 (33:22):
Actually, my buddy Mike Arsenal from Florida sent me some
of that music because he likes to turn me onto
music and I appreciate it. He turned me on to
Zach Brown. I think, I want to say in like,
you know, probably twenty well probably twenty nine, twenty eight
like that. So I really liked the music prior to
I was really like, I guess in deep with the

(33:42):
music before before I launched zb TV. But it's you know,
I just it was number one. It was in the
correct range. Yeah, like sure, number two. I just I
like but it's it's you have to like it in
order to bring it to life. It's what I'm saying. Yeah,

(34:02):
I go that there's that's really nice. Well there's a
lot of beachy music. It reminds you of being on
like on vacation or on a boat, you know. Uh there,
uh you know, I hate to get into this. Uh,
there's a there was a girl. There's a girl and
it was like her favorite music, okay, and she broke
my heart pretty bad and uh and so uh so
uh as my my get Zach Bryan have a and

(34:28):
all the people he may he broke up with a
girl like eight months ago that has been publicly trying
to destroy him for that whole time. But I was
completely in the Swiss girl. No no, I was completely
in love with this girl and it was her favorite music.
And when she broke my heart, I was like, man, okay,
well I'm just gonna do this now. And uh but
it like it's it worked out really really well for me.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, but he see, and it's something good. Always always.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Death brings life, uh because like.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
With a Highway Boy. Saturday Night at bTB go to
bTB r oc dot com get your tickets ten dollars
through This drops on Thursday, so only through the fourteenth. Yeah,
right at midnight will be the cutoff. I don't know,
but somewhere around there or maybe earlier, but I would
say jump on it as soon as you can. And
also the VIP twenty five dollars or thirty five. Wrong

(35:22):
with the twenty that's that blows my mind, right, you know,
I think he's underseelling that honestly, but hey, what do
I know? I don't know either. I don't either, but
it was the VIP gets you ahtographs.

Speaker 9 (35:34):
Yeah, you can tell you you get to use like
the bathrooms inside, you'll get to use some bar. Yeah. Yeah,
there's there's a ton of things that would save you
enough time to spend the extra ten bucks or whatever.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I can't go out without spending one hundred bucks. Yeah,
now I have a drinking problem.

Speaker 9 (35:51):
But I mean, you know, I'm sponsored by bud Light. Right,
that's pretty.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Fucking good there, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
But when you're doing like Zach Bryan songs, people are
hearing your interpretation of his music, and how do you
strike the balance between staying true to that guy's style
and still bringing little bit I'm a Pete to the stage,
you know what I mean, Because you've got a big personality.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I think.

Speaker 9 (36:17):
I think that's what I do is I kind of
leave myself. I try to sound like the guys. Yeah,
Like I spend a lot of time trying to sound
like the guys. And I'm not saying I sound exactly
like the guys, because you really can't. But I mean
that's I'm not. I've never wanted to be Pete Frank
the rock star. I like, I've never done There's no

(36:38):
art in this for me. I love I love singing
popular music. I love singing in front of a group
of people that appreciates that music. And I'm happy to
sing in whatever style I need to sing to.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know who can relate to that, Well, guys sitting
across from you, Oh really yeah, Well Danny was in
bands and stuff. He played, and that's what I'm saying.
Like you, we used to make fun of Danny because
we did a Rady show on a ciml FE years ago,
and uh, Danny was like a different guy when he
hit the stage. It was like, where's people? Where is
that fucking guy? Where can we hang out? With the

(37:10):
cool guy to he used.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
To kill me that because that kind of Christianity.

Speaker 9 (37:14):
I can get behind the people that know me professionally
in my day job if they see me doing like,
you know, my weekend job. Uh they they I've had
several people tell me like, how does this even you?
Just because it's very very I have a fairly very responsible,
like a day job and on the weekends I make
people pound beers like yeah, right, right, right right, yeah,

(37:37):
it's yeah, it's kind of you bring a party.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
That's the whole idea. And I think that's it.

Speaker 9 (37:42):
I think that's one of the big reasons why it's
been successful. You know, as I as we as we
matured and as we look back and we tried to think,
like even since high school. I used to throw some
great parties in high school my parents. I got at mom,
if you're listening, don't don't listen. But I would have
hundreds of people at our house in Greece. Nothing ever

(38:03):
got broken, nothing ever got damaged. They were good kids.
That happened, and uh well I was right on Ladder
Road and it was noisy road anyways.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah no, no, I'm saying, how did nothing dog calling
this is the thing, Pete. I I was voted in
my high school yearbook, like my senior year, where are
they going to be in ten years? I was voted
most likely to still be looking for a party and
to this day, and I have all kinds of things.
But I there was a kid younger than me whose
parents were out of town, and he threw a party

(38:31):
and he called me up, going, you gotta help me.
You got to get everybody out of here. They were
putting grapefruits in the microwave and just letting them explode.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Well, they probably didn't respect him.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Oh ude, nobody did this party? Yeah, okay, all right.
Because he's like, how come this shit never happens to you?
I go, well, I had a knife poll on. I
mean when somebody tried to steal cavasia and I go, hey, man,
that that will get me killed by my parents, So
I will fight you over this. But I never had
anything broken or stolen either. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
No, like, and we had a really I had a
really good network of friends. We probably uh, I don't
know if you edit up. There was sixteen or twenty
of us that would hang out almost every weekend, huh.
And and it was to the point where I would
come home from where I worked at Wegmans. I worked
three thirty to midnight a lot, and I'd come home
at twelve thirty and there'd be four tables of cards

(39:21):
going like it was just like since my parents weren't
home very often, it was the house that everybody knew
that if you drove by and you saw cars there,
you just pulled in because it's good to stop in.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Something's going up. Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 9 (39:33):
And anytime I had parties, if there was a problem
it it almost never got back to me like it
was somebody would fix it, oh before it started, wow
type thing. Okay, Like we only had one instance that
didn't get explained and that somebody smashed a watermelon the
basement one time, Like that is the worst thing that happened.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty mild. I mean the time,
it's a pain in the ass because that's a mess.
It's a mess. But other than that, I mean, when
you look back, you go that that's pretty good.

Speaker 9 (40:03):
And there was a team, like and there was boys
and girls in this thing. But on Sunday, like the
team would all show up. The girls would go top
to bottom of the house and clean everything, and all
the guys would get the beer bottles and make sure
that there's nothing that's out of place, even remotely.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
So, yeah, my parents they had questions, but we.

Speaker 9 (40:25):
Never really got like they would find out from there
a kid that was there whose parents worked at Kodak,
who had said that they were to party at our
house over the week, they would find that out through
the grape tree. But they would like, we never really
got busted by there was never any evidence.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
That's good, you still bringing the party today.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Well, and that's just it.

Speaker 9 (40:48):
So like if you look at d and all those
people they really helped, maybe sixty of the people that
used to party at my house showed up at our
first gig. Well it was that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
And then those are that's lifelong French. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (41:00):
No, I'm fortunate to have a ton of lifelong friends.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
And you know I'm not and I told you this
on the previous podcast that you run. I'm not all
that familiar with Zach Brian. I have a friend who
just went to see Zach Brian. She really likes Zach
brian songs. But I said to you, there was something
about the lyrics that I really liked and you said, yeah,
I love his lyrics, and his lyrics are raw. I

(41:26):
mean he has a real storytelling quality, which is what
I picked up. And I like lyrics. I like Jim
Crotchey for lyrics. I like, yeah, yeah, I like John
Hyatt's lyrics. I always thought John Hyatt did a lot
of great double entendre really painted the picture for you.
Is there a particular song that kind of hits you
personally from Zach Brian every time you sing it, and
kind of what's the story behind the connection, If there is, the.

Speaker 9 (41:51):
Song like Ida is It's so most of his music
is about girls, and much of it is slower and uh,
not depressing per se, but it really tells a great story.
But the song like Ida is about basically being being

(42:11):
in love with a woman that that is not reciprocating
that love. But he's telling that story while talking about
a muscle car. Yeah yeah, so, uh, you know part
of it is put the parts on the shelf and
you know I got running ninety one is you know

(42:33):
when he gets his stuff clean, stuff together as a person, right,
But that's that song really touched me. It's it's just
I don't know it reminded me of somewhere that I
was in life for like about six years, that chip
that I that I made the ZBT before. It reminded
me of that girl.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh okay, yeah, but do you will you play it
Saturday Saturday? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah, no, it probably is.

Speaker 9 (43:03):
I haven't seen the set list yet, like, okay, I
haven't put it together, but yeah, it probably should be.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
So I grew up an old school country. That old
school I mean like the Wayland Jennings pre Garth Brooks.
I think Garth is what kicked off the genre that
like you're kind of into now. I mean, let's be
it was Garth. Yeah, yeah, the first real show. Yeah exactly.
I mean like people said, like he would have seven
shows in a row book, and then you see seven
different shows. That's how big of a showman Garth.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
You've seen Garth?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
So I love the Highwaymen. Do you do any Highwayman?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
So?

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Do you do you do Highwayman song itself?

Speaker 4 (43:33):
No? Well we do.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I know you're the Highway Boys.

Speaker 9 (43:36):
Yeah, Zach Bryan has a song called Highway Boys. Okay,
and it's a Highway Boys on the road tonight. Okay,
gig out at the rhymen, and so that's where the
name came first.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Still on the stage of the rhyman once was awesome.
I stood in the stage one time, my wife shooting
me off, honey, people and take pictures. I'm like, let
me have all that.

Speaker 9 (43:51):
I wouldn't step in the circle though, I was no, No.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
They won't let you there. Yeah, you got you get
the edge.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
You don't get to sit in the circle.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
No, that is sacred ground. Like you can't like Elvis
stood there, you can't go there. Wow.

Speaker 9 (44:02):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but yeah, but that's where
we took the the name from that song obviously, and
it has this great line in this song, and it's like,
keep truth in Songs is the is the line that
I love from that song. And I forget what the

(44:23):
intro is is into it, but it's it's keep truth
in songs because that's his like he's trying to get
back to the old country way. He's trying to get
back to where songs were gritty and they were honest
and integrity means a lot too. Well, it means a
lot to him. In my opinion, I think the media
is not doing him justice on that but I think

(44:43):
that because of his breakup and everything, they've been very
public with his X.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
And I don't know. Never mind, I'm getting it, no,
I I well, that's everywhere. It was a check from Barstool.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Barstool ruins everything.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Well I have no ruined Fox, now do they really?

Speaker 10 (45:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'll ask you this last one because I think from
what I've heard from people who really like Zach Bryan
is that his music is best experienced live.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
Absolutely. Actually you want to hear a great story on this. Yeah,
the first show that I saw for him, my wife
got surprised me, which is I have the greatest wife ever.
She surprised me with tickets on like a Wednesday night
in Brooklyn to go see Zach Bryan. So like she
was just like, hey, you got to take Tuesday, Wednesday
and Thursday off two weeks from now and and and

(45:39):
I was like, okay, well, you know what are we doing?
She's like a thanks, okay, well, but literally flew down
Tuesday morning for a Tuesday night concert type thing, and yeah,
like one of the coolest things anybody's ever done for me.
But so for the whole Zach Brian Real Live show,
the audience sings as much as Zach Brian sings. Really

(46:00):
every word of every song. The audience is singing the
whole time.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I always think that's so cool. I used to ask
Lou Graham that, remember we would have Luan. What is
it like to have written a song and then be
able not to sing it and let them sing it
back to you? That gotta be one of the most
I say fucked up, But I mean that in a
way of surreal, Like you wrote this and it connected
so much with people that they know every word and

(46:26):
they're singing it.

Speaker 9 (46:27):
Back and it's part of the culture.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, and they can't remember what was on their grocery list,
but they remember that song, you know, I mean serious.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Singing cold is ice to their ex Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Well, but I'm just saying, so what can people expect.
I would think the Highway Boys show it's going to
be better than listening to a Zach Bryan.

Speaker 9 (46:44):
It's and he has several live albums that are that
are if you're going to listen to the music, listen
to the live albums, not not the studio albums, because
it's just so much more that. But yeah, it's gonna
be like we we do the live version of stuff
instead of the studio version. It's a lot more lively,
it's a lot more like he uses pedal steel a

(47:06):
lot more in the live versions, and we have an
excellent pedal steel player.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
So yeah, it's it really is.

Speaker 9 (47:13):
It's a great show and and it really so back
to that story on the concert, but my wife looked
at me at the on the fourth song and was like,
this is like a gult. Everybody's singing all the like,
everybody sings like she was the only one that was
not saying I was singing. I was singing it all
And but yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
It's it. It's really is something.

Speaker 9 (47:33):
And the first time we played our first show that
we had in Nashville's everybody was singing. The first show
that we had okay he's down in Wanta, uh it was.
It was awesome, you know, seven hundred people and everybody
was singing.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Great. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Weather, it's gonna be nice weather, it's gonna be perfon ye,
it's gonna be.

Speaker 9 (47:52):
Like high of eighty four or something like low of
seventy three.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Suns out comes out.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Let's go nonetheless, go to btv RC dot com and
get those tickets. You are welcome to stay or not.
I don't know what you have going on. We were
going to talk a little bit about the bills. I
don't know if you're a fan or not. Cook signed
the contract and I got something I want to play
for Danny. You feel free to chime in on that.
Just all. I hit my schedule to stick around, and

(48:20):
then I got something that I think everybody can. I
got something fucked up is being sent to me and
I got to show you, guys. I'm not sure I
want to show it.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Another letter.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
No no, I did get a letter to my house
that was very flattering. I did get a couple of
letters that freaked me out though. That freaked me out
where because.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Were you talking bad about the bills or something? No, no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
I got a letter cocker a woman. I got a
letter of a woman when I had moved and I
was divorced. But that was my second apartment that I
was living in and a letter shows up, and I'm like,
I never talk about where I live. I never say shit,
I don't talk. I realized that I talk a lot
about me personally, but I don't talk a lot about

(49:05):
my personal life. Yeah, people have noticed that. And I
think over the years since my marriage dissolved and my
kids are a little bit older, that nobody liked it.
The blowback was so bad that I just sent, all right,
the only one who I'll fuck with is money. Oh
just yeah, that's it, all right, We'll take them on
and we'll get into some bills stuff right after this.

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Speaker 4 (51:23):
Is this it?

Speaker 9 (51:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, Zach brian.

Speaker 8 (51:32):
Ida when you wake him and I'm not burials, I
just knowing that I'm half way and this is my
favorite song. I'm stone down my mind, numb, half busbell
full time since you left me dying last Augar when
you make it's a nasty untelbone at till t a.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
She just pain my senior.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
Think out and sung guitars and take and Joe's to
thaw him my bart new extra damning, So.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Oh you.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Like my bar.

Speaker 9 (52:19):
He actually mentions barstool the song about oh.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
It is.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Eating a special.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Well.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
The breed thing is interesting because it was making a
lot of page six news, right, and it sounded like,
from what I was told by someone, she was singing
somebody else's song, hit country song and he like got
in her face and maybe was drunk and put hands
on her. I don't know. But they stayed together after that,

(52:54):
and all this came out after the breakup.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
He does have a solid drinking problem.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah, I mean, no one's gonna deny that, and I
don't think he ever denied any of this stuff. But
what I see still happening, or I just saw, was
she was somewhere it's back in the nudes today.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
There was somebody he has gotten so much.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Sure she had, because I had no idea who this
woman was, and I'm not and that means nothing. Right
I do a pie. No one knows who the fuck
I am. That's not my point being that you're right,
she got she's using it for everything. It's been eight months.
Did he did? He also respond, though to on some
social media recently, to her. And so that's the stuff,

(53:39):
like you wish he could get to the guy and go, hey, man,
two am, put the fucking the phone down. Chicken fry,
chicken fry. Yeah, attractive, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Yeah, he's attractive. He's dating to lookike his girlfriend right now.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
When heard Portnoy got involved and.

Speaker 9 (53:59):
Sick, I was like, well maybe he didn't like her
attitude and he liked her, but you know the rest
of the package was.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Porno's a guy who has like this is no joke.
He only dates nineteen year old girls. He won't settle down.
He's still married, is it really?

Speaker 7 (54:12):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (54:12):
He in fact did not like he never he never
knows his marriage. No, No, they're they're they're a strange.

Speaker 9 (54:18):
They've been a strange forever and he's allowed to do
whatever he wants to do and she's allowed to do whatever.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
But like what, like, okay, so I got questions like yeah, right,
like when are you going to grow up?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah? Exactly, I say, I don't know anything about the
guy old.

Speaker 9 (54:31):
I don't have a joint check account that all his
money goes into the joint checking account. Still, he might
say that, I.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Mean he might he might be.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I mean I would think he probably does, because that's
how you keep it like she doesn't care keep it well.
I don't know much about Dave Portnoy. I know that
his pizza thing that he does, and I know he
has an Instagram for his dog and people love the
Instagram for his dog, like fucking love it. And I

(55:00):
I are a guy who built something, I mean right,
so that's cool. Outside of that, I know nothing about
the guy.

Speaker 9 (55:08):
I don't even know how he makes his money. Is
his money in gambling?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Great question.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Barstool like the first real mainstream sports podcast network, him
and a few dudes, and then that grew and then
fan Duel got involved with the gambling part.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
They bought the business.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
He was able to buy it back for like a
Buck and so, I mean he's a genius. There's no
doubt about that. I'm not questioning his.

Speaker 9 (55:32):
Because much.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Big Cat and p f T comment.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
I listened to that, and I'm.

Speaker 9 (55:44):
Seems like a lot for in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
I don't know if she's got I hear you.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
I don't know, but it was like he was kind
of like like Pat McAfee. The difference is McAfee played
in the NFL and then became the guy. He started
at barstool, but then on his own and left the nest.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
My buddy told me he's the reason that Pat McAfee
has a show.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Yes, I've heard may times that's funny, which somebody who
formerly worked with maybe.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, his name is Kevin Legrett. Oh all right, Kevin
was u was rising the ranks in Clear Channel. Bob
and Tom have a show in Indianapolis, and Bob said,
I want the punter. He's got a great personality, and
everybody in the meeting's going, we don't want this. It's
a punters the punch.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
He actually retired to stop.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
So Bob Riswold is probably the guy. But Bob and
Tom were syndicated all over them. Yeah, a big show, Yeah,
and uh he so Kevin signed off on Pat McAfee
being the guy and they just exploded from there.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Huh. So, like so McAfee was able to do it
on his own and then, like you know, Portnoy gave
him like the platform and he took off and it
grew with it on his own. But is Portnoy that
Portnoy though they want? He's gonna be on like Fox
Fox's college football coverage on Saturdays. Now, he's gonna be
the Fox answer to to McAfee on ESPN's Game Day.

(57:12):
On top of that, Fox has given up after before
cow Heard in the morning, they've given up producing their
own programming. So they're gonna lease Barstool now. So after
once football season starts from like six am till noon,
it's gonna be Barstool wall to wall, and then it's
gonna be cow Heard and then first things first because
they can't get it right, but cow Heard and Nick
Wright work well, but Barstool, they're gonna just gonna license

(57:33):
Barstool now.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
That's kind So yeah, he's had to.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
I'm not ripping his business acumen, and I don't know
a ton about his sports dates, but I know this
he loves to like he loves to date nineteen year
old women.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
And by date, I mean, hey, okay, yeah, what's so
bad about that?

Speaker 9 (57:49):
Like that one might say living the dream. Yes, I'm
not saying that way.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Look, Dan, I have said often that I would not
date younger because it would be weird for me. I've
got kids in their twenties. That would be too weird.
And the other thing is, what the fuck am I
going to talk to you about? They had a buddy
that just got buddy who goes I'm talking about making
boat payments and she's trying to make pay backer college loan.

(58:16):
This isn't gonna work. I know it's not, but hell
it's fun.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
No. No, I'm not talking about like having a committed
relationship with somebody. That could happen. I have no issues.
But it's like he's got I guess it's like a
different one, Like he's just surreally dating nineteen year old women.
That's I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Let me just say I think it was already said.
And I'm just going to reiterate living history history.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Right, I'm not saying that my dream that found my fish.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I'm not throwing it back right, Yeah, that's not my dream.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
But okay, God bless you. I guess okay, all right, speaking.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Of a barstool today, Uh, yesterday, I'm out and some
guy says to me, hey man, you think, uh, they're
going to close the Cook deal. What's gonna happen? And
I go, I do, And he's like, no way, where
are they getting the money with the cap And I go,
Believe me, these guys have ways of putting things out
a number of years. I mean, don't forget different sport,

(59:11):
but Bobby Bonie is still getting paid a million dollars
over every trive first so I mean, come on.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
First Canada day and Bobby Bonie a day.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
So they pushed that shit out. But here comes Cook
and he got I thought, I said on this podcast
forty three million, fifteen a year with I was thinking
maybe twenty eight guaranteed. It's not exactly that. It's even bigger.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Yeah, it's forty eight million, four years, thirty million guaranteed. Yeah,
plus a tip jart Yeah, you know, and a lot
of guys they were like, well, wait a minute, what
was the hold up then? Because he basically got pretty
much almost all that he asked for. Yeah, so what
was the hold up on his end? Was it his agent?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Was it Terry?

Speaker 4 (59:55):
Was it the Bills? I think it was. I mean,
I let's be honest. Okay, this dude just on offense,
not talking the entire game, only plays forty seven percent
of the offensive snaps. Yeah, which means he doesn't even play.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
A quarter of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
And this dude somehow like and yes, he is the
Bill's second best offensive player behind Joshua Patrick Allen, no question.
But I want to go back to the AFC Championship
game and ask this question. It's been asked on this
show many times. Dude, where the hell were you all
right when the game was on the line with three
thirty three to go?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I've got many things to bring.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Three timeouts, a two minute warning for you down three?
Where where were you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
He can't let it down. I can't let it go.
I can't fucking let it go where I could have
loved you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
He's reliving it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
So they stick a microphone. I get, I have the
Bills app. They do a fantastic Yeah, it's a great app.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Really a tremendous app. Billy, it's a great app. I
loved if I would have bought the team. It would
have been better.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
So they they do a great job and they stick
a microphone in his face immediately. Now he's a football player,
he's you know, some guys have big personalities. Some guys
are just quiet. Right. We don't give a shit as
long as you perform on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Just shot touchdowns and win football games.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I felt a little.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Bad, James. You just put pen to paper on a
four year contract extension. Why did you want to continue
your career in this offense?

Speaker 10 (01:01:24):
Because we have an awesome quarterback, you know, and then
the program just drafted me. Organizations drafted me.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:01:32):
I just want to spend the rest of my career
and be a FEV.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
This is a big moment for you. What would you
tell the younger James Cook?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Right, I never thought i'd have been here, and.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
Now that you're here, Now, what's the reaction to the
career that you've had thus far?

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Good?

Speaker 10 (01:01:50):
I mean, but that's not the men doubtmate. Goal is
to keep going, keep providing for my team and my family.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
And I didn't know what to say.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
You guys, I don't know what because it was just
a lot going on.

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
That's awesome. You're a powerful and quicker, right, you also
have great hands that add in the passing game in
your skill set.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
Here, I mean just pushing myself every day, just leaning
on my teammates throughout it, and just kept going and
putting my head down to work.

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
What's the first thing you're buying with that contract money?

Speaker 10 (01:02:29):
I don't know yet.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
A nice dinner maybe, Yeah, I have a lot of answers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I want to put it in there for I'll be done.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Oh.

Speaker 10 (01:02:38):
I text my mom and I told her last Well
we figured out find out last night. So I told
her last night and before she went to sleep, and
she just congratulated me.

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
And think that's awesome. You led the league in rushing
touchdowns last year. What can Bill's Mafia expect for James
Cook in twenty twenty five? Dadd and more?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
That's painful. It's painful, yeah, both sides.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I mean, I know that, I know that, I know
I know that I know that she works for the team.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
But she does a great job with what she's given
to work with.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I don't know, okay, but like, oh my gosh, that
was tough.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Like the PR team, like you know what you have
to work with with the reporter and the interviewee in
this case, James Cook. So hey, can we just massage
this a bit? Can we throw some lines out there?
The Bill's PR team, they're terrible. They're just garbage. They've
been garbage. They aren't They're in Buffalo. There's a reason, okay,

(01:03:37):
compared to, like, you know, a bigger city. There's the
reason why you end up in Buffalo. Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Okay, But wow, wow, Pete, does that hurt or what
I grew up there?

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
I grew up there. I know there's forty four million
dollars enough to put a roof over the news.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I'm just wondering, dude, it's a retractable Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Mean, like the interview was painful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
But I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Okay, I get it. I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
All he had to do, all they had to do
was play the clip from Chappelle's show.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Where the weather guy goes unpaid, unpaid and he's doing
the wiggle unpaid paid. That's all they had to do, all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Right now, Danny. Yeah, now I'm gonna really get under
your skin, Okay, not not necessarily under your skin. You
mentioned this show when we were talking about barstool going
to Fox Uh Nick Wright? Y right?

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Yeah, I have he has a thorn in Buffalo's side.
I have an awes he's a smart dude.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I have audio of Nick Wright. I will pause it
anytime you signal.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Does he sound like Doctor Evil in this one too?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
If you want to comment, Pete, listen to he sounds
like Doctor Evil, like I don't know if you've seen this, dude,
Just listen to him.

Speaker 9 (01:04:37):
Does he have a big light fluffy cat?

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Might you might?

Speaker 11 (01:04:41):
Thirty quarterbacks have won six or more playoff games. Shosh
Allen's won seven. Here's the full list of them that
haven't been to a super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Just him.

Speaker 11 (01:04:51):
There's been thirty two coaches to win seven or more
playoff games. Two have not been to a super Bowl
Chuck Knock, Sean McDermott.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
And that's it.

Speaker 11 (01:05:01):
The other thirty all have and so that is odd company,
particularly for Josh. Now, Josh is as safe as a
player can get. I don't know that Sean McDermott is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
What do you think I think he's spitting facts?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Yeah, I mean sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
I said this right after the this podcast you did
with our pal Matt Reese in his bar saying what
are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Yeah, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
And at what point is Josh who I love?

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Everybody loves who doesn't love Josh Helleny He's the all
American boy man. He is the American dream. And then
you got McDermott and you're like, Okay, when are they
going to crack this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
So who's like?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
He goes deeper a little more nick right from Fox
Sports one.

Speaker 11 (01:05:44):
I think Joan McDermott's a good coach. But if I
were running the Bills and we got cracked by the
in crack just beaten by the Chiefs again this year,
I gotta change something. I have to Why else would
my team believe it's going to be different. There is
the element of making the conference championship game. Yes, we

(01:06:05):
would be disappointed if we made the conference championship game
and lost the day after, but a week later we'd
be like, what a year?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
And the majority of teams that would be the case.
The best majority of teams making the Super Bowl is
a successful season. Even if you get cracked in the
Super Bowl doesn't feel like it. In the days after
successful season. There's just a select handful of teams that
truly are How about this super Bowl or failure?

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yes, and the Bills they might be at the very top.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
What do you think He's absolutely right? Okay, you can't
argue with that. I know Bill's Maffi wants to argue
with Nick right, and he's given him a lot of
ammunition to uh huh okay. You like he wants to
Baker Mayfield to a tongue violover better than Josh Allen.
Those were his words. Yeah, okay, all the same dude
who's on Len James's payroll. But I'm not joking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
A lot of people did a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
People No, not really, a lot of people at the
one Yeah that year, Yes, three years later no, oh,
he was still saying that he was saving us in
twenty twenty two. This is long after we had proven
our Josh Allen had proven himself had gone from zero
to hero. Yeah, okay, because I did not want to
build the draft Josh Allen, and I'm not alone. I'm

(01:07:18):
in the majority of people that didn't want because like
the numbers just didn't lie. It's like, oh my gosh,
this guy. What we didn't realize was that, you know,
like things were tough at Wyoming Man, real tough, but
he had the potential. And Sean McDermott saw that. He
brought him Brian Dable, he coached him up. He turned
him over to Jordan Jordan math I think was Jordan
Palmer in the off season to work on his his

(01:07:39):
his mechanics and everything. And he grew by leaps and bounds.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
This kid, well, the guy worked his ass off.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
He did, he absolutely did while Baker was doing commercials
and Tuga was getting concussed. And at the end of
the day, this guy is the best. He is the
best quarterback in the NFL. Right Now, here's the problem.
On his final drive of every single year, it's Josh Allen.
And let me repeat that one more time. Yeah, it's

(01:08:07):
Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
And I don't know Llion dollars when the Dow's.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Not on the field and the biggest freaking time of
the year. Now now he was on the field, he
was in the field.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I knew, I knew, like I I saved this stuff.
I stockpiled it a lot of emotion.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
See I'm not in the band anymore. See where this
motion goes? You know, I used to take it out
into one microphone.

Speaker 9 (01:08:34):
Now I take it out on this microphone.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
So I mean, like, you know, James Cook, you know, hey,
if he signed the contract the bills offered, he's worth
the money, okay, but he better be there and the
reON like like, I don't know, if you watched that
last drive, go back and watch it. He was on
the field, he olaid on a blocker. Josh Allen's got hit.
He had a run for his life. All right, we
got to pull him off the field. Now you know
they're throwing when James Cook's not in the field, it's
a dead giveaway. Okay, either they're throwing it or Josh

(01:08:57):
Allen's gonna take off and run with the ball. Jim
Kelly had help, okay. Patrick Mahomes had help. Peyton Manning
had help. I mean Peyton Manny had more help than
that Tom Brady did. Where's Josh Allen's help? And Nick
Wright brings up a great point about Sean mcthurbott, like,
did you watch Hard Knocks last night?

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
I just like, Okay, this is really boring, and that
could be a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
You don't want your secrets.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Out there, No, I understand, But it was like boring
to where it's like I don't even know if I
want to watch the next episode boring.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Because really like there's people doing podcast right efforts. How
we got to talk about hard k No, there's really
nothing to talk about. What did you talk about for
an hour? Because it's only an hour show? What did
you talk about? Because there's really like, Oh, there's Buffalo Joe,
here's Damar Hamlin. Hey, here's kJ Hamler on a scooter.
They did ten minutes on this poor kid with a scooter,
just riding a scooter around fisher I'm like, okay, can

(01:09:51):
we get to the preseason game or something like it?
Sean mcderbott like, seems so calm, and he is. He's
very calm, but at some point you got it like
we know people who know things. He's not going anywhere
unless something egregious happens in that organization. Sean mcdermot's not
going anywhere. This may be the life he's chosen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yeah, that may be true.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
It'll be like Terry Pagoula going to the blackjack table
with like the six million, six billion dollars he's worth
and hitting on nineteen? Did you get a hit on nineteen?
Would because the sabers man is like, they don't even
want to hit on five.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
All right, we'll uh, we'll take a moment, let Davy
recompose himself.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Yeah, come it up next.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I have no thoughts Ai Ai is getting out of hand.
I got to show both of you guys something from
artificial intelligence that a listener has been creating, and I
just want to It could lead to some real problems.
I don't think it won't for me, but it could
lead to some real problems for people. It really could,

(01:10:51):
and I will show you this. It is fucking freaky. Okay, yep,
we'll get to that right after this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Oh.

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Speaker 9 (01:13:50):
Usually it's a keyboard player.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
But like originally I started doing it and I was
just man, I got block going on up here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
But there there's a lot of breathing and then you
gotta sing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:13:59):
But like I, you know, I kind of liked it.
But but Manny likes doing it and uh he Manny
can play keyboard and bass and like it's such a
strong see.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
It's good, it's such a strong Like now this is
is this his biggest song?

Speaker 9 (01:14:15):
This is his biggest song?

Speaker 8 (01:14:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yeah, will you play it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:14:19):
Absolutely, and we can kill it like we do a
live version of the song. That's just like people cry.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
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(01:14:47):
bring their homies.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
It is weird now because artificial intelligence and we've seen it,
like you can get calls the elderly scams the elderly
are so outrageous that now when somebody dies you or
if you want to put if you have an elderly parent,
for example, and they want to put you on their
bank account, you have to show up at the institution

(01:15:14):
with them because they don't they I mean, they're not
checking IDs. Nobody can do a zoom thing.

Speaker 7 (01:15:20):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
There's all this AI stuff and we have a great
listener who uh just is a big fan of the
podcast and she sends all kinds of stuff and sometimes
gifts and things, and she created an AI thing. This
is AI and I'm going to let you. I'll let
you do it, Danny. And then slide it to the

(01:15:43):
left and hit again. But just take a look. Just
hit play on that and tell me what you think.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
What are you seeing two people like makeing out? Okay, okay,
slide slide it to the left, Okay, who is it?

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Oh? It looks like you Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
And and then this this chick chick right show Pete
watched back to the left or no, no, just showing
this one because it's a little clearer. Just hit that,
so hit play, yeah, yeah, and is it like your
hand kind of goes down. Oh yeah, so if.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Looking very very even in Fairport with the bridge in the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Bank, Okay, if you were in like could you imagine
you could fuck up someone's whole?

Speaker 9 (01:16:31):
Are you saying that this doesn't exist? This is not real?

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
No, that's complete? Ai. Who's the never?

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Who's the woman?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
It's hurts the woman who created it? Okay, but I've
never met her in person ever?

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Wow?

Speaker 9 (01:16:45):
Bad news how she thinks about you?

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
There's a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
There, right, but you want to you want to see
what even better? Don't say don't say a word about this, okay,
but like just hit play on this one and you'll
know exactly who it is is. Okay, it's Laura and somebody?

(01:17:08):
Oh yeah, only ice? Like yeah, but I mean Pete,
when you look at that, you could know it's real
if you got that in your inbox?

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Yes, I really think you?

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Are you in Fairport today?

Speaker 11 (01:17:21):
Holy?

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
Yeah? What's going on? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
What's this? Yeah? How do you explain?

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
I don't know who's the ugly guy? That's you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Me?

Speaker 9 (01:17:29):
That it is? Can my friend help me start an
only fans page? You think I'm just not for me
per se, just for my AI? Like lady friend that
your friend creates.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Like, so it looks like at a distance and stuff
that it looks like the person you zoom in. I
think we could get you could argue that it's not so.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Is the guy wearing a Mighty Ducks jersey in the picture?
Is that from like from uh, you know, from the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
No, but it looks like look at this one, Pete,
I'm going to show you this. Uh, press play on
the middle video the middle video, Peter will enjoy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
This is it the Morgan twins?

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Is the Morgan Twins kissing?

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Oh, that's so funny each other Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Because he always makes fun of it. He made fun
of the other night. Can you send this to me?
I'm gonna how fucking outrageous is that? That that like
looks like them?

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:18:26):
No, I'm sending it to re Car right now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
We're on a group text.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
I don't need to be in I don't need to
be in trouble, but I'm going, Wow, you could really
ruin someone's life nowadays, and that that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Well, I remember'mber seeing the picture when AI first became
a thing of Taylor Swift holding a Trump twenty twenty fourth,
signed in the red carpet. We all knew that was fake.
But like, I mean, like yeah, like there's been a
lot of viral videos that have gone around where you
see these little bunnies on a trampoline hopping up and
down and stuff. It was all made up. It wasn't real.
It was all ai And we're saying this is this
is gonna get people in trouble, deep deep fakes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Well, look, I will sort of admit something a little personal.
I've been starting to see somebody went out to dinner
last night. You've seen you've met the person. Yeah, I
go let that fucking get out. Yeah, before this thing
he even gets a chance to really start. Now, all
of a sudden, it looks like you're doing something and
you're not. But you know, it would take somebody who's

(01:19:24):
pretty with it to go, Okay, I get what this is.
But take a wife that has any suspicions whatsoever, and yeah,
this gets created. Man, you're fucked. You'd have to have
a damn good lawyer.

Speaker 9 (01:19:36):
Well, in humans, humans are mean as as just as
a species. Yes, they're not kind, so like any any
you know, gosh, it can go all sorts of wrong
ways and give it ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Only gonna get the news. Wait till the news publishes
something or broadcasts something that isn't true. That when we
got video surveillance of yeah blank yeah, and then we
find out, oh that never happened, Oh that was ai
Because it's gonna happen to a newsrooms. Someone's gonna get
tripped up and someone's gonna get sued big time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
I mean, it's like, this is what devil has us
right where he wants us.

Speaker 9 (01:20:12):
What was that big radio thing?

Speaker 11 (01:20:14):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:20:14):
That was the end of the world thing, the world
War of the World. Yeah, Like can you imagine orson
Wells War of the World's give it another seven years?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:20:23):
Like and somebody's podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Yeah you're thinking if.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
You saw this last night Channel eighth reporting on Instagram.
I don't know if they did it on the news.
I'm sure they did. Was there a flying orb over
Fairboard last night?

Speaker 9 (01:20:36):
I kep up pictures of that all the way from
I'm in some thousand Islands groups and some there was
a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
Yeah, Now it could have been It could have been
an orb, it could have been a drone, it could
have been a plane, it could have been all we
don't they don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:20:49):
But the response was definitely aliens. Okay, I threw it
on the Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Dude, definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
Meanwhile, meanwhile, I don't know if you saw this, we
could go They said there's an intergalactic alien spaceship that's
going to land on Earth sometime in October, and then
groc comes in and fact checks it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
No, it's an asteroid. Oh they screwed this up.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
So the scientists got this rock. But there's somehow there's
aliens over Fairport or Penfield.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Maybe there are could be. I'd be pretty selfish to
think that God only made us.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Oh no, no, I believe God made other creations.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
We're the only ones that f up.

Speaker 9 (01:21:25):
Oh, after the last four or five years, you don't
think things could get weirder? And yeah, they still did.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
They do all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
They do all the time. Now here's something because both
of you guys, and I would think, Danny, you may
not do this as much, but I think a little bit. Okay,
And I bet j Pete does do this, and I
I would be the guy who would absolutely revel in
this in a relationship. It's a new study from out

(01:21:52):
in California. It's called Spill the tea, honey. Gossiping predicts
a well being, insane and different gender couples, so they
got some recording devices. It only recorded fourteen percent of
their daily conversation, but of that fourteen percent, twenty nine
percent of it was gossip with their significant other. So

(01:22:14):
you leave a party could be good gossip or bad gossip.
Shit that you hear? What was she wearing? You know
those tits are fake?

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
Right? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
I mean like all this shit, like I go, oh
my god, this is amazing. And they said. Across the board,
couples who gossip more frequently reported higher levels of personal happiness.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Oh, my wife and I gossip all the time. Okay,
she comes back from band practice. You won't believe what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
All yes, go on, I told you that band wouldn't work.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
I told you, did not tell you? What did I
tell you? When did I tell you? A long time ago?

Speaker 9 (01:22:42):
My wife just communicates with our friend group significantly more
than I do. I'm usually working and doing stuff, and
I get my news from my wife.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
It's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Coming up at seven.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
She does all my scheduling. That's what happened to Tammy
Joe over at the salon yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
So this here's the part that I found hoe the
most interesting. Gossip was linked to better relationship quality, although
the effect was slightly less pronounced. I don't know what
to mean. Same sex couples overall reported higher well being
than their different sex counterpart parts, especially women. Women couples like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Oh fucking yeah, dude, would be a lesbian, would be
a chick.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
Chick?

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
You chicks yourself fucking mean to each other.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
If the Bible talks about it, ladies, stop gods.

Speaker 9 (01:23:33):
Divorce rate is amongst lesbians because even women can't live.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Yeah, I always say, I always go, there's more women
in our population than men. Yeah, there are more women
than men. And I know that this is not a
popular thing to say, but I just pointed out, just
doesn't mean. We've had two women run for president of
the United States.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Yeah they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Wigh. Now, just saying so, and if majority of the
people are women, they're not voting for each other. And
I'm not saying that that that's a caddy thing. I
have no idea, but I did we hear about the
caddyge So it plays well, it plays for my joke
more or less.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
But yeah, that just makes us feel better about our
own problems. Yeah, when we hear something going on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
You know for sure. They also said it doesn't matter
positive or negative. They go, it doesn't it doesn't matter.
It's just the act of sharing perspectives that counts.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
That's interesting, and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
They go, Now, most Americans, they say, and I haven't
seen this, but they say they are too stressed about
money to have sex. So in this article, tho, God,
I know I've never heard of.

Speaker 9 (01:24:44):
Come on, explain the population explosion on the last side
of the city for me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Then, well, I mean that is interesting though, because they
say finance is like the number one reason for divorce. Well,
that's because the dudes lose their job and then they
get divorce.

Speaker 9 (01:25:01):
Because I think eighty percent of divorces or something crazy
like that are instituted by women.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Oh yeah, high, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:25:08):
So it's like it's usually like somebody goes on a
rough spot, dude loses his job. Now his wife just
divorces him because it's easier to find another one than
to stay with that one through the rough spot.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Like Bill doesn't believe in unconditional love.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
No, Well, that's not that you got you get a
little bit wrong. What I'm saying is I don't believe
human beings are capable of unconditional love because there would
be no conditions. And the whole thing is, I would
like you so much better if you only X, Y
or Z. That's a condition. Yeah, So I'm just saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
My thought is with that, I think men have the
most conditions when it comes to love. For sure, we
have the most responsibility when it comes to being loved.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Are you talking about, oh, dude, should we titch and ass?

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
I'm in no, no, no, no, I'm talking about like yeah,
but okay, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
I'm about like the reciprocation, yes, yes, right.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Like like like there's articles now of like there's like
there's this movement of men going their own way and
all this stuff, and I don't know if it works
or whatever. I don't want to know. I don't ever
want to know. But there's this idea that there's no
incentive for men to get married anymore because they bear
all the responsibility and if things go south, they're the
ones who end up having to pay for everything. I
don't know, man, I now again, I don't know. I

(01:26:23):
have no idea because that's a thought it's out there.

Speaker 9 (01:26:25):
I think of there are women I know who make
a lot of money, and are they paying two thousand,
three thousand dollars a month in child sport?

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
I know one probably, No, I only know of one
who's usually though.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
No, that's a great that's a great like, that's a
great question. Right, So and I understand that I do
know one woman that was paying. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you,
I'll say it off or I don't want to statistical enough.
Only one, I know, only one I know, So it
does happen, you know, But yeah, I mean that's true. Man,

(01:27:01):
I felt that too. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 9 (01:27:04):
I know so many dudes that are paying two, three,
four or five ten thousand dollars a month of child's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Ten and that four plus.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
I'll tell you what, if you could afford to pay that,
more power to you.

Speaker 9 (01:27:14):
If you don't, it still hurts, such like you're paying
taxes on that at what a sixty percent?

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Yeah, you're getting then and they're building one hundred percent
of your money. Yeah, yeah, it's still it's I'm not
saying that the kids don't deserve it, because the kids
need to know. Of course, you know, it's a good thing.
And everybody should.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
But listen, if you want to try to avoid the divorce,
start gossiping about the neighbors, start to asking about your
friends and.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
How you do it.

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
Bring it in and keep the couple together. You know,
talk trash. It brings us together, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
It may reinforce the perception that partners are on the
same team, and yeah, enhancing feelings of connectedness, trust, and
other positive relationship qualities, as well as contributing to overall
well being. Now, I would love to be like at
a party and just walk up behind somebody and whisper
something about someone in the room, or maybe about the
filthy things I'm gonna do to you when we get

(01:28:10):
home something and then and then somebody will see.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
Me and go, what are you doing over there?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
And I'll go, would you like to know? Discuss about
it later? Aren't yes?

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
She gonna do well? We should do a morning show
and every day of a five twenty somebody would walk
in the show the walking gossip column and we get
the entire front page of page six in Rochester.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
Delivered to us word of mouth like the town crier,
right in.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
The studio before we actually did the actual talk show.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Wow, here's what so that's true. That is true, He's right.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
And then we had another person on the show says, oh,
men definitely gossip more than women.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Wow, that's what she's saying. Who said Sally?

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
Sally said that. Wow. I didn't believe that until I
hang on with me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
As she said the We show, the Wei show was
bad because he would come in with stuff, and then
Tommy and then and then I was.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Tommy, Tommy was I never worked with.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
This is how I worked with and weise would love
a good gossip too, but I'm sure what he would
back out at a certain point. But Tommy would get
so bad that he would be zooming in on chicks
vacation photos. May be looking for like cell you like
see they see laughing our asses off.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
She should not be wearing sandals. Brow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Here's here's how fucked up. To Peat's point of of like,
we're sort of mean, I think I found this interesting.
So they do this, they say. This research builds on
a study from twenty nineteen which debunked popular myths about gossip,
and the popular myths were the belief that women gossip
more maliciously. They don't well more maliciously, but I'm going

(01:29:52):
ils mean to each other, to each other, to each other.
They're like they're all they can be. I wonder like
if there if they're really tight with somebody, But even there,
I've seen them meet each other alive, even when they're
tight with each other. Yeah, I have to I've heard
the expression.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Is that like men dress up for their wives, women
dress up for each other.

Speaker 9 (01:30:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
I mean, dude, that's all you need. That's performers. That's
all right. You can stop right here, you popping out
of a cake tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
No, Sharon's gonna be there. Fuck that bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
It's like, that's one, it will be right, Like, why
what you gotta see my wife when when there's a
gig man she gets all down. I'm like, could.

Speaker 9 (01:30:34):
Hundred percent, my wife dresses up for the gates, so
that like just to make sure that nobody else is
looking like this, she's not showing up look like later
one hundred percent. And my wife is gorgeous. It's like
she like she'll heal up like stilettos and the tight
jeans and the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
I'm gonna pretend I don't see. Oh yes, I'm gonna pretend.
And then the other belief was that poorer people gossip
more often.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
It's all I got. Yeah, is that true?

Speaker 9 (01:31:06):
They got the time, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
But sometimes I think.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
They're the ones who are watching like commercials like for
Everest in midday.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
No, I know, but sometimes I think poorer people are
the happiest people. Yeah, there you go like that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
I got no stress about you know. I was like
Tommy used to call me the working poor, remember, like
when I worked at radio because we were oh gosh,
it was so bad. It was awful.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
But like, yeah, I wasn't happy. I was not happy,
but I would gossip.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
Yeah, Tommy, tell me more.

Speaker 11 (01:31:34):
Of this.

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
Check right, I want to hear.

Speaker 9 (01:31:37):
I'm miserable.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
Somebody else like this, so I don't think about mine exactly.
So he's got somebody on the side. This is supposed
to make me feel better. I can't even get on.
He's got two.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
All right, we will wrap it up. Get your tickets
to see the Zach Bryant tribute, which is the Highway
Boys and then the m eighty Saturday Night it's the
Is it the second.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
Year he's doing it?

Speaker 9 (01:32:04):
I think it's the second year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Yeah, he's been doing it as a music fest, and yeah,
I'm really this one. I just think he's gonna blow
the doors off.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
And what time?

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Yeah, so gates open at five and then the show
starts in the six o'clock hour.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
All right, cool, we figured this out.

Speaker 9 (01:32:19):
We're gonna start right at six o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Oh all right, you want to get there now then?

Speaker 9 (01:32:22):
And it's all ages too, because like the Highway Boys,
the Zach Bryan has a younger fan group, so that
actually works out really really well that we're starting at
six and we're gonna play like six to seven, thirty seven,
forty five, and then M eight's is going to close
out from eight to ten.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Okay, Oh there's a curfew, a hard stop at ten o'clock.
Oh we're in Greece, my friend, Okay, yes, I was
just how the rules work over there. There's a lot
of cops in Greece, Like there's like and they're just
looking a report has like three cops. It's the whole
they do, the whole village.

Speaker 9 (01:32:56):
Yeah, Like Grease has like three or four subs stations
and they're like, yeah, we gotta stop at ten. Instant dude.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
I was at a show once at a wedding. Uh,
there used to be this place in Gates. You may
have played there. It was called I used to be
called Blue and then it became a bar called uh
Plate five Rockenburger. Oh yeah, yeah, they had we played there,
so they outside stage. Yeah. So on the weekdays, Billy,
which meant Sunday through Thursday, ten o'clock curfew got to
stop on the weekends Friday Saturday was eleven o'clock.

Speaker 8 (01:33:28):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
Well, some bands got a little carried away and wanted
to keep going. Oh yeah, and you can't do that.

Speaker 9 (01:33:33):
That gets expensive, yes, right, because you're paying the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Fine for the band.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
No for the owner.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Yeah, well did she charged the band?

Speaker 8 (01:33:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Because bands don't have any money. Oh, gotcha, right, because
they're not paying it much to begin with. There's always
an argument at the end of the night. At least
with that place, there was uh nothing tell tales out
of School. But eleven o'clock, We're like, we gott to
wrap it up, bro, because like the sound guy, like
I was working with, the sound guy goes, this is
at a wedding which I had just perform. Really goes,
we got to kill the sound ten to fifty nine.
It's got to go all of a sudden, like they

(01:34:04):
shut the sound down.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Pants starts flipping out.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
We're like, dude, you want to pay that fine? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:34:08):
Yeah, yeah, they don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
What is the fine? We know it depends like it does.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
I can tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Well do they also give like strike so to speak
you you to give you warnings and give your warnings.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
But what I'm saying is some some venues, like in
the city, if they have three problems, they'll shut you down.
With the calendar year, they'll shut you down. I wonder
if it's the same thing.

Speaker 9 (01:34:33):
I bet you it's the same type of thing. But
I have been on the stage when a venue owner
when I know that there's a hard stop at ten o'clock,
And this happens more on Long Island than anywhere else
because we play a lot of Long Island and they
got a lot of money down there, so they don't care.
But we have been playing and I know that it's
a hard stop at ten o'clock in the owner and
we've gone to stop and the owners like, get you yeah,

(01:34:54):
like we're going to ten thirty and I'm just gonna
pay them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Yeah, Well it probably makes more.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
Was Pat selling twenty five dollars flights.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
You know, you know, it really depends on who's who's
putting the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 9 (01:35:09):
We had, like, I don't know, probably two thousand people
in a place that holds a thousand people, and they're
selling drinks for five times what they sell him for
up here. Like he was just like, no, we're making it. Like,
just go, I don't care what the fine is.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Just go well, just go to BTV, r OC dot
com get your tickets for Dan BURRELLO. Very passionate taking
on the Buffalo bills and the signing of James I.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Think got James Cook locked up. I like it. I
just thought the deal was a little heavy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
I'm not saying it wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
I like the passion.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
But I'm glad, you know, hey, let's go on to
Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 (01:35:40):
I think I think if he could have just said, uh,
I just bought a house here during that interview, it
would have given him a lot less Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Yeah, for Pete, he's gonna be performing, putting on a
great show Saturday night at bt B in the mall
at Grease Ridge. I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.
Tannese Society of California DA

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