Grief, Meaning, and Happy Gilmore 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in
Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dods jeep Ram. It's Billified,
the Bill Moran Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Wow, it's late. I didn't realize how late it is.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
That's all right.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
No, you don't have to apologize too.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Sorry, you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Apologize to you.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh poor Dan, so far that evening.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, walk into a puppet show.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Finger. I was, gentlemen, it's all good.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
Everything's good.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Anything fun.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
No face plants today, No God, no, not at all.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
No faith.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
No, I don't even know where to begin. I was
gonna start here tonight, and I thought this would be
something that I could do with you and I because
earlier today somebody wrote me about the podcast and I said,
I have some thoughts on things with the podcast and
where I want to go and what I want to do,

(01:29):
and they're like, oh, you're gonna blow everybody out, and
I go absolutely not.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
I got some thoughts. I always got thoughts, So I'm
glad you brought your thoughts to my thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
So I said, but there are certain topics with certain
people that I wouldn't be comfortable bringing up. And I
was thinking a lot today because I talked to my
mom and I needed confirmation on something that she did
not give me confirmation on.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Oh yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
That's something you really needed confirmation on, Like, well, is
your type of situation not necessarily?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Not necessarily, I will tell you what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Don't you love me?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
No? No, I had nothing to do with it. I
think my hair is a mess and now I'm a mess.
So I just want you to know that tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
A lot of things.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's spent three years. Bro, dude, they're not leaving. They're
hearing so much ship over No. Yeah, oh yeah, really yeah,
I have to but no, it's true.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
No, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
So that's the thing people talk so about.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
My dad used to I thought my dad always said
he wanted to make a movie. And I've talked about
this already, so forgive me for repeating, but it'll come
back to why I wanted to have this conversation with Dan.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
My dad used to say, I swear he wanted to
make a movie about really fat, overweight lifeguards. And they
would be up on the chair and watching somebody would
be drowning and they're climbing down and they're huffing and puffing,
and I swear he said that over and over and over.
So the day after he died, my sister and I

(03:06):
decided to go to the beach in Maine.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
And is this when you dripped the ice cream on yourself?

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Okay, yep was after that, so.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yes, because I put I creamed myself.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
That's right, I put my creamed myself.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I did.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I was a mess.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
So we went to the beach and as we're looking
for parking and all this stuff because it's it's on
the street parking, and we're driving around, driving around, and
I would see young girls in red bikinis with the
life like the lifeguard belt. They had the float device.
They had like the waist they could wrap around your

(03:45):
waist for floatation and other things, other things.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
But they were all right there. They had the equipment on.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
I remember saved by the bell the beach, the beach arsa,
you got it.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
So my sister and I walked down the beach.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Now I think my dad as I'm learning, was tuned
into each one of us. And I hope I'm not
talking too much about my dad, but it's a little
fresh so because he would say things to me that
I found out he didn't say to the other two,
which made me realize what a degenerate I was. If
he wasn't around, I really might have got off the rails.

(04:20):
He kept me right on there. So as we're walking
down the beach, we get all the way to the end,
and a lot of rocks and stuff at this but
it's main and I look to my left and there
is the biggest, the fattest lifeguard in a one piece
female with a giant belt around it. And my sister

(04:44):
does not play this kind of shit. This is not
my sister's game.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Like making fun of them, right, I'm making.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Fun of them. Hit Her big thing is, you know, nothing.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like she would body shame this person.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Not so much body shaming, but yeah, body shaming. She's like, look, everybody,
we don't need to do that if the world is
cruel enough, and why are we doing this? So I
whereas her brother made a career out of it. I
looked to my right and Toby, you see this brow.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh my gosh, which one's the way watcher?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I fucking looked to my right dad, and I turned
to my sister and I go, please tell me, Dad,
talk to you about the movie you.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Wanted to make. Nope, I go, wait a seconds. He
never told you about the movie he wants to make
about the old fat Light.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
You didn't tell you the treatment that he wrote.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
He goes, no. I go, well, I go, kat Katie,
do you see? She goes, I see it. I go,
that is the fattest lifeguard I've ever seen. I mean,
that is she this big, big blonde girl, one piece
at off And I go, she has the equipment right?
She goes, yees, she does. I said, okay, And I
tell her this the plot of Dad's movie or the
premise or whatever. And so today I'm sitting at my

(05:51):
computer and inspiration hits me. Call your mother right now
and ask her if she remembers this movie that Dad
talked about. I call my mother. My mother's like no,
I don't, no, not at all.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I go, come on.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
She goes, well, I blocked a lot of those years out, Billy.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
And I'm like, okay, but please.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Tell me nothing.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Nothing I got no confirmation on the fact that my dad,
I swear to you, I couldn't have come up with
the premise because I never I remember being a kid
going I don't find it that funny. Then as I
got older, I go, yeah, I get the juxaposition. And
he loved like I think secretly, my dad loved the
Blues Brothers because he would always go he would laugh
so hard at when they were behind the chicken wire

(06:32):
and they're singing It's Hard to be a Woman and
people are slow dancing and crying. My dad love that
scene like he did, and he loved There was a
Saturday Night Live sketch that I didn't know he loved.
My brother and sister said it was when they did
Natalie Cole sings with all her father's dead friends and
they they bring him out and all she does is
like repeat a line or something, and I guess my

(06:54):
dad found that so funny. Anyway, I got no confirmation
on this, but my sister goes, that's a signal from
your dad. And I bring this up to you because
you have been through this. And my mother said something
to me today that resonated with me. But I don't know.
I went I don't know how to do this. He goes,
I hope you truly grieve at some point for your father,

(07:15):
And I'm like, two weeks ago, I lost my dad,
and to be honest with you, Dan, I'm still figuring
out what that sentence even means. I don't even know
what that fucking sentence means. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, Like I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Like it's one of these things where, yeah, he's gone.
It wasn't in my everyday life anymore. I'm sure there'll
be something at some point where, but I'm like, how
do you I don't even know how to begin to grieve?
You know what I'm saying. And this is the guy
who protected me literally forever in many many ways. There

(07:52):
were financial things as as an adult that he would
jump in and you know, send you a check and whatever.
So yeah, and I'm like the only thing I know
and more from a philosophical standpoint, was a guy named
Victor Franklin. Victor Franklin was an Austrian Jew, ended up
in Auschwitz, lost his wife, I believe, lost his parents
as well, possibly his kids.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
He was just the guy who played dead and snuck
out of the camp.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
He was a neurologist and a psychiatrist later on in life,
and he's a survivor. And he wrote a book called
Man Search for Meaning, and it was really about like
just he felt like the truth thing of life was
searching for its meaning. And I always say there is

(08:38):
no meaning other than the meaning you apply to it.
Maybe that's maybe I'm wrong. I have to go back
and look at the book. It's been years since I
even thought of this book. But he lost his wife, parents,
and brother in the camps.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
That's what it was like. Man, I made some notes.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
And I'm like, he didn't glory. He doesn't glorify death,
but he insists the awareness of death sharpens your ability
to live, like sharpens what really matters. Oh yeah, and
I'm going sure. I mean death is a great teacher.
What does this show me about life? I think that

(09:13):
you know you there's a shocklock. There's a shocklock.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yes, and you need to do everything you want to
do to live to the fullest.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Don't wait.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Have this great ada, I got this great idea.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hey, you know what we should do?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Go do do it?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Go actually do it? So it makes life urgent.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
So there's this book that we had a friend Bjsha recommend.
It's called The Way of the Superior Man. Okay, And
I don't know if there's any correlation to this other book. Sure,
but one of the things in the book, and I've
never read the book, I just remember bj talking about this.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
But religious, do you have it?

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Yeah, One of the rules in the book is that
you have to live like your father is God. Yes,
and you never really I've been told this and I
believe it that you never really grow up until you
lose a parent.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I lost my father at twenty seven.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
My baby brother was fifteen, so we were at different
stages in life, but having to now grow up at
the same time. I was from a generation, the Toys
r US slash MTV generation, where we had a state
of arrested development. We were allowed to be kids longer
than the previous generation, the Gen X, which is you,
especially the Boomers, who had to grow up as soon
as you graduate from high school, were expected to have

(10:18):
a job or go to college and get married, have kids,
buy a house, boom boom, boom, boom boom. And there
were opportunities to do that in the fifties and sixties.
You get to this point now where it's like your
father had always not always bailed you out, but bailed
you out often, and so now it's like, I got
to bail myself out right, and you don't know where
that bailout may come from, and you have to figure
it out.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
No, Dan, you bail yourself out. You figure it out.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
You're an adult now and your father's gone, and it's
in those moments that you learn now how to grief by,
how to use grief as fuel. Grief is fuel. I'm
going to use this as motivation. I'm going to make
my father proud. Now it's been eighteen years. I still
haven't done that yet, but.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
I should.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
My father's last memory meets your radio carew didn't really
work out, did it well? But but I bounced back.
I ended up working in the show called The Breakroom
with some guys Bill Moran. In the lad I have
my own sports talk show for about twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
But in all seriousness, you know, the grief. Everybody grieves differently.
My wife is going through the same thing. She lost
her phone and she goes like, I keep having dreams
about your father I go.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
You know who else I had a dream about last night?
She who? I got my dad? And you know what happened?

Speaker 6 (11:33):
What he was yelling at me? He always yells at
me in my dreams. He's always yelling at it, which
tells me, hey, you gotta get going man. Not that
I have it. I have, I really have in my life.
I've come a long way and I still got a
lot further to go, and I think that there's certain
things that I still need to do. But the end
of the day, he's always going to be in your ear.
He's always going to be in your heart. He ain't
far away. Well, he's just in a different form. That's

(11:54):
what I believe. That My brothers and sisters get mad
at me because I don't go to the cemetery unless
there's another funeral that I have to go to. I
don't go and visit my dad in the grave because
I don't believe he's there. I believe that's where his
suit is lying under a bunch of dirt. Okay, he's
got this monument you put flowers through, show me in
the world how much you loved your father. But at
the same time, I don't believe my father is there.

(12:15):
I go, you guys want to go visit the dad,
Go ahead, you want to go have a conversation with
a grave. Fine, I don't believe that he's there. That's
just me and I believe they believe the same thing.
I think it's just a human nature thing. The flesh
wants to we.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Want, we want to have a spot where we think
you are right right, So it just makes more sense.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Right at the city.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
You know, everybody grieves differently. We all need to like
adjust to each other's grief. We also need to, like
also those who are of us who grieve need to
allow those people who want to help us grieve.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
To do what they do and allow them to help us,
because everyone's helping us differently.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
And you know, I I said to my wife, like,
you're gonna have dreams about your father the rest of
your life.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
And guess what, You're.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Gonna enjoy every one of them. Yeah, You're gonna enjoy everyone.
Even my father's yelling at me.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I know it's for a good reason. It's a good purpose.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I would say, like, I remember the Victor Frankel stuff,
and I think it was more like you value things
more because they end and one of the things that
he always said was laughter and laughter comes to an end.
A sunset is another great one. Right, Why do people
go out and take pictures because we know it's going
to end and we may not see that type of

(13:24):
sunset again. You ever go like you're in the Caribbean
or you're somewhere, it's a little more special. But I
would say, like, you know, how how has my dad's
death in this short time changed me?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
And the only thing I can think.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Is to live more truthfully because of the loss, because
I think there were things that I kept very hidden
that weren't serving me well or making me my best
and I just had to stop.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
All those Yeah, I couldn't do that.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
And I just think that when you.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I don't know you value something that that you start
to realize the value of this there is an end
to it something. I mean, why is a piece of
art valuable because it's one of one? Right, Guys who
are into cars, they write if they stamped the cars
and they made fifty of them, if you get one
of the makes it more valuable than standard cars we have.

(14:20):
And so I think that I do think that death
makes you look at life a little more urgently. Oh,
that's not necessarily bad.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
That's not bad. That's actually a good thing.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
It should it should, and it should.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
It should be that kick in the you know what
that you need to do what you need to do
because you looked at your father's life and look what
he accomplished, including bringing me into this world. I need
to give my father a return on his investment. And
how am I going to do that?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Well he's not here now, so I really, so how
long do I have? How long?

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Well?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
I always think, like, look, I'm laughing because my hair
is a mess, and I had an interesting afternoon to
say that. Danny knows it.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
It was a good afternoon, I gives. I've never had
a four hour lunch before.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
And I'm waiting until I get home when we talk
about it. I was following you on your phone.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Dad, We're worry.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
It's like, right, I never let people follow me.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
Well, I understand why. You know my wife and I
don't follow each other.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
No, I wouldn't follow my wife.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You know, they don't need to unless he's following me.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I don't mean then the negative as.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I have the most boring life.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
You know.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, No, well, I mean you don't.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
But I get your case. Yeah, yes, with your dad.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
You know, you just want to lay Okay, I got
X amount of years, I think, yes or less, right,
it's a bonus, you know, or my case, Jesus may
come back.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Either way. I gotta be ready.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
I gotta be ready to hang on this life loosely
because it's but at the same time, you know what,
give it the best I got.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I'll tell you what. Victor Frankel did say this, and
I remember this from from the book. He said in
there that you got to live like this is your
second life m hm. In other words, you learned from
the first one what not to do. And I think
inherently we all know what not to do sometimes. But

(16:13):
I would say, like our feelings are really our guidance
system when something feels a little off, and we can
all talk about the people that This is why I
often say there's so much energy and we are more energy.
You can walk in a room and feel the energy
of people and go, what's.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Going on here?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh? Yeah, right, And.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Was talking about it the podcast he goes.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
You walk into Jimmy Kimmel's show er, you walk into uh,
what's his name? Your buddy there found. Yeah, you can
feel the energy. Everybody takes on the persona of the older. Yeah,
because you walk into Letterman show or you walk into
Ellen's show, Everyone's tense. Yeah, everyone's tight, everyone's angry. Why
because the leader is mean? Yeah, so you could always
feel like whoever the outpha is in the room, everybody else.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Is gonna fallow. You can feel that energy.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, I think, yeah, well that that's a fair statement,
whether it's worker play or what not.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
That I never really.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Thought every room someone's that you can walk in and
we feel it.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, there is an energy
that you do, admit you want.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
You want something.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
When I locked this one, oh Jesus fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Hey's he had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I know he did.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
He saw.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
It was all about it.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah he may have ordainedd that.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
But you know what though, at the end of the day,
you know, you walk into a room, it takes on
the persona of the the person in church, whatever room
that is. Like we go to Greg Cotter's house, man,
it is a blast. Why because Craigs, what is it like?
When you Creig is fun?

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I gotta ask you this, what is it like when
you walk in here most nights.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Oh dude, it's always fun, is it, Yes, I like
to I know we're gonna have a good time. Well,
my point is like there were times when when we
work together, I walk into that show and I didn't
know what person I.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Was gonna get for me. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Really, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Your fault, though, it wasn't your Well, you had to
come home, you had.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
No no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
You had to walk into a bee's nest. I mean,
come home in work, come to work into a bee's
nest upstairs. Yeah, okay, I don't want to get in
all day again. No, but like we had to like
battle from day one. I wasn't even their day one.
I came in later, but from day one, it was
like an adversarial relationship. So we really had to fight
and claw every day I walk into this place, Man,

(18:23):
I looked forward to this every single day.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I almost feel like that was a bad way to
do it now that I look back.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
It was unnecessary.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
But you didn't know, no, just like when the pandemic started,
everybody's like in lockdown.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
We didn't know what to right.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
But I often think, like I think the as I've
gotten older, my advice to anybody would be, in every situation,
don't do the knee jerk, try to take a beat,
try to step back, try to feel things out, and
always lead with kindness. Always lead with kindness. And I
used to say to you, I think I said to
everybody to me, there's a kindness, a difference.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Between kindness and nice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I feel like kindness has boundaries. There are limits, and
you can draw those boundaries nice as you can get
walked it all over.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I am living proof of nice versus.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Kind right, And I think that with kind and I
also think that you can kind of set that up,
but you should be welcoming and warm.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
And nobody needs the bullshit.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Everybody's coming from somewhere dealing with something. There is nobody
that's walking next to you that doesn't have something that
is major to them in their life. It may not
be major to you if you had it going on in
your life by comparison, because you've lived more and you've
seen more things, But to them at that moment, it's
a lot.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
And I just go, you just never know.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And my dad used to always say when he was
teaching school, he would go, you never know how somebody
else started your day. I often wished he would take
that same philosophy to himself because of it. But that
was the thing I think. I walked up to the casket, Daddy,
and I go, there's the thumb. My brother looks at

(20:02):
me to go the thumb that he hit a hammer with,
and Brooklyn came out, ye oh God, I'll never forget.
I was laughing so hard, but that was yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
I mean, like, you know, it's you ever read the
book The four agreements I could summon up for you
like thirty.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Seconds I did. You've talked about it often, but go ahead.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Four agreements are don't take anything personally because you know
you're a thousand different people to a thousand different people,
and everyone's having a different day you are, that's their
own dream. Just just don't take anything personally because odo
you've pissed off somebody to so just don't take any
Number two always do your best.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
There are three be impeccable with your word, and four
don't make assumptions. If you live like that.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
If you always do your best, whether you're sick or
in the best of health, you could hold on to life.
Loosely without letting go and at any point if you
know you've given your best to life. Like your father
at the end of his life, he knew he gave
everything he had that you could check out at any
point with no regrets.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I yeah, I can't speak for him right because I
don't know. And I would say that that's probably a
pretty accurate thing. I know that my brother, sister and
I would say that we had no regrets regrets with
the end of him. So oh yeah, So there you go.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
And I mean, like to follow with your own philosophy.
I mean, it's gonna you're gonna be greeving different ways.
I still grieve in certain ways about my father, Yeah,
but they're different now. Like I I don't remember him
in the hospital bed anymore. I remember him being butcher,
the guy who walked in the room like John Wayne.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
And had a presence no matter where he went.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
But he never abused it. He was always kind, like
you said, yeah, always kind. He's on the side of good.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I will, uh.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Will take a moment, I got I.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
Look, look fine, dude, that's like the look that's been
the looks. It's like two thousand and two. I don't
know what happened, well, I do.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, take a moment. I have a treat for people.
I told this story of what happened after the funeral. Okay,
I got the audio. Oh yes, there's video, but the
video didn't capture it. And I'm hoping because I've been
playing it for people and it would break up at
some point. But you need to hear this because I
explained what happened on a previous podcast. I will get

(22:08):
into detail again, but we have to hear this. I
must have went back and watched this fifteen times and
laughed my ass off because there are so many little
layers to this. I will explain all of it, but
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Speaker 4 (24:23):
Great advice in this song.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
You and I know a guy who introduced these guys
at Batavia Downs Eddy came on on ed he wanted
to like hang out with them, and then like they
got mad at him.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
So then he started m F and CM like we
had nothing to do with it? Bro, Is that what
they did?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (24:47):
They were like no, because then he tried to get
backstage at another show and they got mad at him.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Because he tried. Yeah, because he was like, hey man, listen, I'm.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I'm here about didn't we bring all of them up
for like, who was it?

Speaker 4 (25:01):
George through?

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Getting it was well, although though we introduced a bunch
of people.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, he came out like they were all there racing Randy.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yes, and yeah I think that was a thirty eight
special show. I think he he left us a drunken
message once after seeing Judge George thorough Good and the
Delaware Destroyers at Parties in the Park or something.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Oh god, and that's what we got and.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
That's where we left us four messages, and that's where
we got all the toothless ms Gray Mom.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I forgot, like I truly forgot how fucking funny that
show was. And it was everything I wanted in radio.
Was that show? Yes, Like it was the characters, the interaction,
it was the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
And I had it and I walked away.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Well, dude, you had a great reason to walk away.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I didn't have a great reason to walk away.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
They paid you a lot more money, yeah, but not
that for a family guy.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's that's the family, your dad. I mean, you gotta take.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Care of could have got there with the other place?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, because of me? No, ood No, absolutely not. I
Uh it was that. And then I was just telling
somebody today, like, you know, you go to LA and
they were going to pay me almost the same as here,
and I'm like, what, well, I got the job. Like
I don't talk about.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
This to be in I mean, that's like the living
is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
People get like, oh fucking wonder when you say this ship,
but I did. Uh. At the time, there was a
woman named Allan k. If you ever listened to Rick
D's she was on there. She was on with Ryan
Seacrest as well, and they were giving her own show,
and I get, uh, this this call going, hey man,
you know, we're we're looking for somebody. Would you come

(26:40):
out if we fly out and do an audition with her?
And I said all right, and they go, we're looking
for somebody with a little more edge. She's a little softer.
We're gonna put her on and it was basically going
to be like a soft rock station. I think it
was called The Coast or something.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Coast, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
And so she comes back from Vegas and I think
it was I don't know if it was her fiftieth
or whatever. And so I meet her in a coffee shop. Attractive,
little blonde lady, a lot of plastic surgery, and we're
talking and she starts talking about how her like I
don't know, her father died recently, and she starts crying,

(27:17):
and I don't know what to do. So I had herson, Napkins,
and I try to give her a half ass hug,
and then we're going to meet the next day. And
that company had bought the Tonight Show building because Jimmy
Fallon brought it to New York, so they have it
and it became their theater. They would have shows in
there and all this stuff. Well, in the bowels of
that they have recording studios. So they said to me, look,

(27:41):
nobody knows that we're taking her off Seacrest and giving
her own show. And what our goal is with this
is to get it nationally syndicated, which I don't think
has happened, but maybe I'm not sure. And they said,
we'd really like you know, this is the deal. So
we went down into this studio and they would just
play the intros and outros of songs. And this is

(28:02):
a woman who had lived in la for years, had
worked with Rick D's told me that D's would give
her like ten thousand dollars bonuses when they went on
trips to Hawaii, and she really had lived the life.
I think she was in Playboys Women of Radio at
one point, and her husband was a big wig in
a radio company. I think he had was no longer,
and she had a son. And so I go in

(28:25):
there and they just played the intro's announces of songs
and then you're supposed to talk like you just hear
the beginning of a song going and like out of
a break or coming into a break at the end
of a song, TiAl, Well she's somebody who like her,
she goes. My first celebrity friend was Rod Stewart. He
played at my wedding. Blah blah blah. I think I
can't remember if Rod called for a segment we did,

(28:45):
but anyway, so I'm like, I go. I felt like
I was in over my head because I'm also used
to being sort of the lead guy. So and they're like,
you know, we want somebody who can also produce and
do this. So I did it and we had a
lot of fun. And she said to me after, she goes,
oh my god, that was a lot of fun, which
I figured say to everybody. I get a call, Hey man,

(29:06):
we had somebody else fly out. You're really our guy.
We're gonna have one more guy, but we think it's you,
blah blah blah. So let's talk about money and they
give you the money and I go, what and they're like, yeah,
I go, I got three kids and a wife.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Man, I go, it's La.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
They're like, yeah, but it's La r Yeah, you could
get her the exposure.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
No, No, wasn't that. It was this is what came
out of their rauth. Next on the phone. You could
get a.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Job delivered pizza.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
No, you could. You could get a game you could
become a game show host. We got connections, you can
do comedy, you do this, And I'm like, yeah, but
that's not guaranteed. Now. Was it worth the risk if
I were a single guy? Fuck? Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Was it worth the risk as a mid forties married guy. No,
And I had my It's so funny. This conversation came
up a few times today and at one point my
son said to me, do you ever grant? And I go, no,
I don't because it was more important to me to
be with my family. I never got into this for
the money. I never did. I never got into clearly now,

(30:10):
but I just never did. It was all about just
having fun, that was it. And the fact that I
even got a shot fucking great.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
So on a previous podcast, Man, you were not.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Here, I apologize, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah. I talked about the fact that after my dad's funeral,
my brother has a pond and he bought many different
floatation devices and things, and he has a little doc
and he has a paddle boat and kayaks. But then
he bought a bunch of like floats for people. And
I went back to where I was staying. I changed,

(30:47):
and I come back on the lawn and there's a
lot of people. A lot of his friends are there.
My aunt and uncle from Utah are there. My mom
is there, cousins from New York City are there. All
three of my boys are there. I think they were
actually in the pond. And I let out a whoooo.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Rip off my shirt and I fucking kick off my
shoes and I start fucking hauling ass, probably not as
fast as I think it was down to jump into
the pond.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
And I hit the dock dan and I slip. My
whole body goes sideways, up sideways. I come down Boom.
I hit the dock, fall into the water.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Like America's funniest totbody else.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
The greatest thing is today as a gift that I
just am so excited to have. My sister in law said,
we found the ring doorbell foot. Now you can't see me,
but you can fucking hear everything. And there are so
many layers to this. So let me see if I
can get this to play. Uh and I cannot thank

(31:53):
my sister in law Morgan enough.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
She said they would.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I got a favorite part to this and everything. Okay,
so let's see if we can get it because it
was breaking up. Okay, So here it is. Let me
say hen and I just pause it. I'm gonna turn
off the volume. I want you to listen. You will
absolutely hear. You do not need to see. You're here
when I entered.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
All right, it's breaking up.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Why does it keep fucking breaking up like that?

Speaker 4 (32:31):
You can hear me?

Speaker 7 (32:32):
Right?

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, yeah, let's see.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's my my brother's mother in law.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Now I'm time again. My aunt Ka walks up to
the door.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
There's me.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Every race, that's Jared.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
That's when I went down to here.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh and then if you listen, and if it wasn't
breaking up, you can hear my brother fucking lose it,
just fucking lose it. It's the greatest, It is the greatest.
I gotta put this video up on the website if
I can figure out how to download.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
It's from ring Doorbell. But one more time, just let's
just see very good.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Close.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Oh, I can hear it.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Here's my brother. He's fucking.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
I fucking you, you know, what else you can hear
When you listen closely, it sounds like it close your eyes.
If you listen closely, it sounds like your father's funeral
was the second worst thing that happened.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Then that's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
The storytoppers top this, Dad, You're dead.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
But that's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I was so excited, and I'm getting it all broken up.
I gotta figure out how to clean that audio up
because we need to hear that. That's hysterical, how funny.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
All right, we gotta get I could hear Bob sag
it in my head. Some people grieve differently.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yes, all right, this is uh now it's a pirate ship.
Somebody said something that says, now it's a pirate ship.
You know what they did.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
They got us a flag. They got us a pirate flag.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
They got the Moran coat of arms.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh there's you guys have a coat of arms now.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Oh yeah, there was always there, always was, Oh okay,
coat of arms right here from Ireland arm.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Now it's got some stars of David in it. Are
you guys part Jewish?

Speaker 5 (34:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
I don't know. Is somebody like you know, no idea
but that's it. And my son Jackson has this tattoo
on his chest.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Really is that what that was?

Speaker 6 (34:52):
I saw a video of him in your youngest nephew
on like it looks like a and then a doc
or something like like almost fighting like it's America Gladiators
the water.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
They were on a floating dot.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
Okay, yeah, and then a jolly Roger, the jolly Roger.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Gotta get up on the wall. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
That's awesome. Who said that? That's awesome?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Somebody lest the last name Hunt.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
You know, they would have gotten sooner. We could have put
it over your father's casket on the way out.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
That is just a joke, folks. No, I know, but
how fucking funny.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
That is awesome?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
And then you hear oh, I must have watched that
fifteen times. It didn't break up as badly at home.
I don't understand. It's too sad.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Why is it that I could picture Race and Randy
doing something like that over you, like, hold my.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Beer and watch this.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
No, I was, I was feeling no pain. I we
had that's good.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
How deep were you in?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Deep? I was deep?

Speaker 5 (35:49):
I was.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
We had gone to a wine bar, so I was
rose all day.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
I like, was that where you guys were doing the
video singing country roads?

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yes, with the guy.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
My wife showed me that. She goes, I'm gonna cry,
and she shows me the vidal.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I don't know why that would make people cry.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
I want to put that on the website.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Because she knew the backstory of what was the story was.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
It was after the the the funeral, and I did
give the eulogy, and my brother did a reading and
my I don't know, I don't know Kate did any
but Kate wrote basically that the the obituary. She did
a wonderful job of that, and uh and then yeah,
so it was it was nice. I was worried because

(36:28):
I had gone for like a little jog in the
morning and and I didn't write the eulogy. I just
did beats in my head and I knew what.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
I wanted to say.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
That's what I did for my father.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
But I do wish in a way that I had
written something down because I go there were little gems
like every time I would work it like a comedy set,
you work over and over and over in your head,
so you know it. And I got up there and
everything went smoothly and that's not it. But I felt like,
could you have done better? And the answer is yes,
And so I felt like I not missed some things,

(37:01):
but you could have like highlighted maybe some other people.
I don't know. I don't know, Like it's over, it's not.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Had a pastor tell me that the hardest part of
the pastor's week is the Sunday afternoon because they think
about everything they could have said in the sermon. So
that's not an uncommon thing. Like why my father in
law died. There's some things I wish I had brought
sure my father, a couple of people. I should have
acknowledged that I didn't.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, it's gonna happen. It was just one of these things.
But what are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Then?

Speaker 6 (37:27):
After seeing that video of you doing a face plan,
I think people realized why.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I mean, it was like, I get it now.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Well, so we were we were we went to this
wine place and that guy who was playing the music
my brother had hired, he plays up at the uh
up at wood Uh. I was gonna say Woodcliffe, that's
on that cliff house where my brother works, and we
had been up there when my aunt and uncle were
in town. If my brother looks at me and there
are these big I mean, it's Florida ceiling windows looking

(37:58):
out over the ocean as the eaves are crashing on
the rocks. It's just this picturesque, beautiful place. That guy
was playing inside this place, and all of a sudden,
all these people get.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Up, and my brother goes, I love one white people dance.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
They're all like, you know, but yes, I want to
put the country Roads thing up there. And it is
one of those I don't know why everybody's joined in
on that, and we all did.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Because it's one of those songs.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Everybody joined to sing along, and in a way, yeah,
it was like a camp sing along.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
It was interesting. But god, I wish we could hear
that audio.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
Yeah, set against the backdrop of your father's you know, passing.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
I think it was a family expert.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
Yes, it was there to the place I belong, whether
it's West Virginia or wherever.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
It's all three boys were singing it. They were in it,
my brother, my sister, my mom me. Yeah, it was
kind of nice. It was very touching. I didn't even
think about it in that way at all. I just
I just didn't.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
It meant.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
The whole thing meant a lot to me. And this
whole week and the people reaching out through the podcast
and my children all being there was was really really
really very touching and nice for me.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
It was cool and it was cool to see get
videos and it was cool. I mean, it is good.
It's it's you get to realize. Like my father said,
you know, you want to picture a success. Before he died,
he goes, look who's here.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Right right?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
He goes, I got standing room only in my deathbed.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah right.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
And then at at his funeral, I mentioned that. I go,
look at this place, it's packed. My father's a pretty
successful man. I goes, there's some people dying alone.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Yeah you know, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
And then that's some people get to outlive everybody. That's
one reason we're going to do one again in October.
I don't know how that'll This would be more of
a remembrance or a memorial.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
But Kevin's already planning it. Or Kevin, we're gon do
a road trip. We're gonna hit up Poughkeepsie.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
New York. I feel bad if you guys all keep
that's a four hour he was going to.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Drive to me and ago, it's not a Saturday. If
it's not a Saturday, I can't. I got football.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, there you go. Don't. By the way, so sweet
what you and Beth did, and very very kind and
all that stuff, truly.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
And the show Kevin Kevin like and his wife like
put together the flowership from the show.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
And I think they're in the doorbell video because they're
sitting after the funeral on the steps of my sister
in law and my brother and sister in law's house,
and that's there. That's you hear back. I mean, holy shit,
Because I said to somebody the other day, they go,
what would you kind of describe yourself as, Like, I'm
kind of an introvert and they go, yeah, sure, I know,

(40:35):
I really am.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
There are tiny socials what I prefer to.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I'm definitely not anti social and I learned, but I'm quiet.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
I can be very quiet at times.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
I like to read. I like to sit in uh inside.
I like listening to music. I just I like writing
and researching and doing that sort of thing, and I
like to recharge that way. But I will admit, and
this is the weird part. And I've always, always, always
been this way. I love the attention, but it's all people.

(41:08):
It's surface knowing. I'm not deep with these people. I'm
not deep with anybody. I'm deep with a very few
a bunch of people. I've been deep in the podcast.
But to me, I'm talking to you or I'm talking
to a few other people in this room. But I'm
not very close with a lot of people because I
just I'm just not I get it, and that's how

(41:29):
I am, and so that's where I go.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
I think I am an extro intro extro a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Oh, I could see that. I could definitely see it.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
And I love going up on stage and I love
to make people laugh and I love having fun.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
I love having fun.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, you are good times, Charlie.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
Sometimes, I mean, like Kevin and I have had conversations
like off air, like hey, so do you know this
about No, I don't, I.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Go do you?

Speaker 6 (41:51):
He goes look at me, No, I don't. He doesn't
talk about this stuff. You know, there's certain things that
you keep to yourself. Yeah, yeah, which is perfectly all right.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Well, I think that there was even some you said
to me. I've listened to the podcast and certainly you.
I always call it. I keep things in the pocket, Yeah,
I keep things pocketed, and certain things like.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
Yeah, like I had a friend of mine who I
thought I was really close to, which I am, but
he lives in Texas. And then I find out about
a year ago he's getting divorced.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, time out what I thought
you were You could be married for twenty some years. Yeah, no,
it's not working out. Here's what happened.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
I'm like, you didn't even hint at this when we talked, because, yeah,
I just kept.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
It because some of this stuff is too hard. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
And then you also start to feel like as the person,
which probably isn't necessarily an accurate way to feel, but
that you're digging for empathy or sympathy or from something
by the way, and that's where most people don't want
to do.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
Yeah, I had somebody reach out to me. We I
had a classmate die in high school and they buried
him today. So a few of us have been like
chatting online and stuff, and somebody goes, I didn't realize
you had a sister who passed away.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I go, yeah, I didn't. I didn't talk about it.
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
It's one of these things.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
That's Yeah, I'm not looking for sympathy and the people
who know who need to know, and that's all we
needed to know. I'm not looking for any type of tension.
But I will tell you this, like ninety I'm like
the reverse Iceberg. Okay, ninety percent of my life you
can pretty much find it here.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
I have no secrets.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Well I don't either for the most got a few secrets.
You might have stumbled on one today, Okay, but that
won't remain secret. Things won't remain I know.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
But I mean like it's it's like my life is
pretty much an open book. I'm pretty boring, hilariously boring,
like the New York Times.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
All right, we'll take a moment training camp going on.
I actually got over there and the person said to me,
you could have brought Dan.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I go, well, now you tell me, well, we can
quigle back.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Now you quigle back.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Oh cool, Yeah, come we can make that happen. I
don't know what's happening.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
My wife, Yeah, I told her she got to cover
up last year.

Speaker 6 (43:52):
Last year she got freaking burnt like Sebastian the Crab
in a Lila Mermaid.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
We had to leave early. I was pissed, like I
paid twenty hours for parking.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
So we will. Yeah, we can probably make that happen.
But I know you weren't.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
The one who injured Maxwell Harriston, were you?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
No, nobody saw it. No, okay, it was a turf monster.
But let's get into some of this stuff, because I
don't know a whole lot of things that are going
on in training camp. All I know is that neither
a guest with their daughter was trying to get autographs
and she had Josh Allen Jersey and she tried to

(44:26):
get two other guys and they sort of blew past her,
and then she turns around and there's Josh and he
takes it in the science.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
And then he was there for like ninety bore autographs
like that Proud got it.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Think that Proud got it.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
On TV on TV.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Well, this was not today, this is.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
No, this is a couple of days ago.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Yeah, all right, I think that Monday is.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Yeah, because he's about to leave there, like, Josh, we
got to go, and he can't like just leave people behind.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
This is how he is.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Well, this was on the opposite side of the field,
so I'm not sure. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
It could have been, but I mean, like, uh, the
local media did not was not able to No, No, I'm not.
I'm not ripping them. I'm actually defend them if them
stop it a first, Well, wait a minute, I don't
rip on the local medialy Dan Dan media.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Jesus doesn't I was it liad Jesus doesn't like client.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
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No, I made it through some mad moon. That was man,
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Scarning booth by the bad.

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Needs letty go more.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Man, it's calling this house night.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
A couple in this song.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Yeah yes so uh huh Morgan Wallen Cover Me Up
is the name of the song.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Didn't rebody see the story before we get into Buffalo
bill stuff, there was a story about I think they
came on a plane and arrested a pilot and I
think it was for child sex abuse. Yeah, and now
I just got an article sent to me that said
his forty five year old ex girlfriend has been arrested

(50:12):
for covering it up. Adelta Pably was arrested and accused
of child sex abuse. His ex girlfriend was reportedly also
charged with sexually abusing a child. Oh yeah, he's thirty
four and he's going he was shooting above his age
range eleven years. Was arrested in the cockpit shortly after
his flight landed in San Francisco. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
I saw that he was arrested before his flight landed.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
No, as the flight landed. Oh, they came out.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
They were waiting for him. Yeah, okay, San Francisco. The
child sex stuff is is absolutely horrible. Here would be
my question, And it's so dumb that I think it
might annoy people, But I go, we believe that people
who like the same sex are born that way. Is

(50:54):
it possible that people are born this way? You can't
fucking have it. It's it's it's disgusting, it's abusive. It's
having been molested as a child myself. You can't. You
absolutely cannot. We have the Rochester Diocese that just settled
for an inordinate amount of money, uh with with I
think five hundred people or something whatever it is. But

(51:16):
my point being, like you can't have it. But what
do you do if that's your if that's what turns
you on? And I know that sounds absolutely insane. People,
How the fuck did you say that?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
I go, Look, there's there's all kinds of fetishes, right,
we got you know, big beautiful women and this that
I don't find that hot.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
There's cake farts, there's all kinds of Remember cake fuckers.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
I do remember that lady said on the cake she
farted in the Icy Blue. It was one of my
favorite games.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
But the fact that people got off got off on it.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
You understand what I'm saying. There were videos, there were
videos dan of women sitting in just stockings, cross legged, smoking,
and it turned guys on. Do you understand what I'm saying, Like,
there's something different for everybody that is their thing. If
you watched if you ever watched Billions, which I love

(52:11):
that show when it was on, Paul Giamani's character was
into being like being abused, right, So could that turn
you on?

Speaker 5 (52:20):
Fuck?

Speaker 3 (52:20):
No, not me, But there's that, So I just say,
this is an extension of that. It's just absolutely unacceptable
at any standard. And you can't there's an answer, right,
But My point is, if that's what gets you, how
do what do we do? You were born just you know.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
I can't. I know, I can't wrap my head around that.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I can't either.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I can't. I can't. I can't buy it.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
I can't in a certain way to a certain extent.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
No, I can't. I can't get it.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
I mean, let's put it this way. I mean being
the Christian that I am. Bible says one man, one woman,
one partner for life. Unless there's a or something like that,
that's it. That's where you put all your energy into it.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Period.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
It prevents everything else. Okay, it prevents all the sin,
it prevents all the mistakes, it prevents all the help.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I understand that. But there's such a desire within.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
But is that desire? Is that desire for those little
desire to like, you know, I feel like they're powerful,
whatever it is. I don't fucking know, Yes it is.
I can't.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
But how many married people turn out like all of
a sudden, they go It doesn't mean I'm gay, or
it doesn't mean that.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
You have to indulge that. It means you need to
go get help. If you realize before you go hurt something, well,
because there's.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Somebody else attached to the man. And I say this
about any an addict, an alcoholic or whatever, the fight,
the urge, the wrestling inside you, you know, and I go, God.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
That's so fast. You gotta go, you gotta go get
the help, you gotta go get the help.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
And people so they go into these dark corners of
the web to find these pictures or things or whatever,
and it's disgusting. And we can say, well, it was
just a photo. No one got hurt. No someone got
hurt making that photo. Yeah, somewhere that photo was made.
It may have been made a couple of years ago.
It doesn't matter. Whatever happened it will. I can tell

(54:15):
you that that sort of thing can really screw with
your head in many, many different ways.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
I think though, if we if we like that, there's
this term that they like to throw around now I say,
they like whoever they are maps minor attractive persons.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I cannot sign off on that. What you never heard
of this?

Speaker 5 (54:31):
No?

Speaker 6 (54:31):
Oh yeah, they've thrown this term in the last ten years,
called minor attractive persons.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
They're just attracted to little.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Children and almost like, oh, I'm not a I don't
make mistakes. I have a disease. I have a condition.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Now you're an a hole and you need.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
To be locked up or get some freaking glp.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, Like, could there be medication?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Because I'll tell you what.

Speaker 6 (54:52):
You do, get locked up. There's gonna be some guy
named Bubba who's gonna see you, and he's gonna be
attracted to you too. He's gonna take out all that
angst that you took out that onto you and then
what you want to be a victim?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
I like bloated tonight. I wonder why.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
It's a good bloated. See like there's good debt and bad.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
I went for a three mile round three miles wow,
no kidding?

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Three point one yeah wow.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I gotta get back to my wings and getting back,
but I had to take a week off.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
I'm getting back. It's time. It's time. You know what,
Dad's gone. I gotta get back to being me.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
That's that's the premise of Happy Gilmour.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
You know somebody, yes, yes, well I watched The Happy
Gilmore too.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
And I loved it good.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
I'm glad to hear that because I and anybody.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Who watched the rip on that movie. What were you expecting?

Speaker 4 (55:39):
This is what I'm saying. It was exactly where it
should have been thought.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
I had great tributes to all the people who are
knowing it was the first one. It was.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
It was two hours.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
It was the first two hours of my life in
the last five years where I could get away from everything. Now,
think about it, if they could just laugh for two
straight hours. My wife and I loved it, loved it.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
And if you have a problem with that movie.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
I would sekle anyone out who says they got a
problem with the movie and just discard them, Like the
entire Dan LeBatard show needs to just rot.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
They all ripped this. What were you expecting?

Speaker 6 (56:14):
No, we want to show how smart and sophisticated we are.
And even the ones who damned it with fate praise.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
Hey.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Look, if you were looking for this or that and
the other thing, well yeah, well stupid, yeah, what you expect.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
It's a Sandler movie.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
It's a sequel thirty years in the making. You remember
the first one. Here's the premise. Ready, okay, here's the
premise of Happy Gilboy.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
In case anybody here we go.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
A guy who wants to be a hockey player who
has no business even being on the ice, happens to
start whacking some golf balls with, of course, his grandfather's
old clubs, and he decides that he wants to win
back his grandmother's house because she could pay her taxes.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
So he enters this long drive competition and.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Then he gets noticed by this dude with one hand
named Chubbs who left it, who lost his other hand
dude to an alligator.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Okay, an alligator bit.

Speaker 6 (56:59):
His hand on, but he ends up replacing it with wood,
and he teaches Happy how to golf.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
He goes and he gets into this.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Amateur tournament which win him a spot on the PGA Tour, which,
by the way, never.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Happens, but okay, we'll just spend reality.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
And he goes and he becomes John Day really and
by the way, he's in Happy Gilbot too, if you
have say.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
He plays himself and he's hysterical, right, And.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
He goes and he hits lots with a hockey stick
type of golf club in a hockey jersey which is
for Boughton in golf.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Oh and Timberland, yes.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
And Timberland.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
It somehow manages to win the Tour Championship with no
experience going from zero to Tiger Woods and the.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Yeah gold jacket right, which fine?

Speaker 6 (57:38):
Yeah, And somehow, some way, this dude who ends up
doing this falls in love with the tour pr person
he gets ads for subway, he wins a golf tournament
where like he has to basically sake one of these
like putt putt type of putts to win the tournament. Okay,
And along the way, Chubbs dies gets killed by the

(57:59):
same all.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Gator who bit off his head.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
It's so damn ridiculously funny. Oh he gets in a
fish fight with Bob Barker too. Yes, what did you
expect for the sequel? To me, the sequel was what
did you expect for this?

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Perfect?

Speaker 4 (58:12):
It poked fun at the live tour.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
It made fun of everything, but he made fun of everything.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Gently gently gent Larry gently smiles, and I loved it.
And I loved it for just that. And I think
Adam Sandler has had a career of people poking holes
at all his stuff, and I think there are recently
there have been a couple of movies where he's gotten
some really real critical acclaim gems.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I guess was huge but he's a Saturday Night Live
guy right.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
That and where he went and he was the recruiter
for a basketball team Europe and he found a player.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I didn't see.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
All those were like he He was great in them.
There's a likability about this guy.

Speaker 6 (58:56):
And he takes care of all of his old crew,
took care of he put his kids in, his wife.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
In the movie he.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Got like he got.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
He made Scottie Scheffler funny. Yeah, I mean he was
Scotty cheffer stole the show because.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
He's dead paying. Okay, we'll work with that. You'll make
what you get.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
Not again he gets arrested again, you know, I mean,
just sorry spoiler alert. It was just all the alcohol
that he's hiding in the house, in the remote control,
in the cuckoo clock, like everywhere, like in the clubs,
in the cucumber, at the grocery store.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
I mean, it just it was just hilarious.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
What were you expecting if you wanted two hours of
pure laughter forget about your problems watch Happy Gilboard.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
I agree, I agree, And that was Yes, absolutely, it
was awesome.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
Where are we going with this? I'm sorry I didn't
do it. I forgot where we were we were talking
about something nice. I've gotten a happy gilbre too.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
We take a moment.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
We reached that I forgot what no, because I was
going somewhere with this, and of course I got hijacked
by myself, which happens a lot.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yeah it could be.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Yeah, I will just say this, Why don't we take
a moment reset. I want to hear your thoughts on
the Buffalo Bills. I want to hear your thoughts on
training camp. I want to hear your thoughts because I'm
sure you have them on on Dion and the bladder
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Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
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I did and choose this tone. I dream of getting out.
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Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Something about her lyrics sometimes that I've been trying to
do a little bit of a I want to say
the deep dive because swift. Yeah, but there's something about
some of the lyrics songs that are not popular that
I go, I get it now, Okay, yeah, they're they're like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
They're great you always.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I don't know that I hear arguments of whether she's
a great I think she's a perfect vehicle for that.
But it's like she really hits the notes in the
in the lyrics. And this started the other night because, uh,
something came up about her and John Mayer and I
didn't realize she was nineteen and John was thirty two
at the time. She wrote a song Dear Blond.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
They're both adults, I got it, But still they're both celebrities.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Like if you're okay a thirty two year old guy
comes and knocks on the door, which is okay with
your nineteen year old sister going out with them? I
know the answer, don't even ask, don't even pretend. But
my point is like she wrote a very very insightful,
like a better song about him than he wrote about her.

(01:06:03):
He wrote paper Doll about her, and it was just
I was like, wow, I don't I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Don't know what was the gist of paper Doll.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Basically that you're fragile and you you know, we cut
out clothes and we play and you're young. Basically what
it is, you're a young girl and you're nineteen. I'm
thirty two. Were there are different plats? Yes, yes, yes,
holy shit. I keep catching myself on the monitor and
I go, what the fuck happened tonight? I do know
what happened tonight. I'm just not willing to talk about

(01:06:32):
what happened to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I try to keep it private, keep it close to
the vest.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
It's in the pocket, Danny, it's in the pocket.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
How many issues with John Mayer Taylor Swift? Zero issues?

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
I didn't necessarily either.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
That were other people. They were just making fun of
me for liking John Mayer and saying that he was
a pedophile.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
And I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Back that truck up, buddy, No, And I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
I don't think that's the case at all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
But that's not fair, no good. If he were forty
and she were twenty five, is that like?

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yeah, I don't know. I like to off four hundred.
I'm looking at all right, Danny. The Buffalo Bill's training
camp is going on right now, and I don't know
that when you go, I always joke that I don't
know that people know exactly what we're looking at, what
the purpose of a certain drill is.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
I don't think most people know, but I think they
pretend to know, but I don't think they really know.
So what, I think the only people who really know
are the ones who are actually credential to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
So seriously, what do we uh? What are you seeing?

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
And what have you kind of surmised from your I
know in depth reading about all things camp.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Well, I have not been to camp, but I have read,
you know, I read a lot of people that I respect, Okay,
and I could name all of them. We tried getting
a couple of them on to night, but there's a
night off, so no, no, it's like a night off
for them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:50):
So they got to be a camp early tomorrow, so
a lot of them are driving in early tomorrow or
late tonight, so they couldn't come on the show. There's
a lot of injuries going on, so the natural question is,
and I'll get to Max Harriston in the second, but
the question is, is this a lot of injuries for
a first week of camp? And somebody went through and

(01:08:11):
actually looked up these same injury reports from a year
or two before, and they say, like the Bills ended
up with like twenty one or twenty two injuries last year.
At camp, but at the end of camp, are going
into last week of camp, so it's it's kind of
a lot for right now, but not too much. I
think they're being cautious. I know that this year they
have to make make or break this year. So if

(01:08:33):
I mean, they had a lot of people start out
on what they call the PUP list, meaning if you
started the PUP list, the physically unable to perform list,
that means that if you're not taking off that list,
they don't have to use a roster spot on you
when the season starts. Once they activate you, then they
have to waste the roster spots so they could keep
you on and another player smart idea.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, So like guys like.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Dawson Knox have been removed there, but no other guys
who've been removed, but they started out camp on that list.
There have been anywhere from eighteen to twenty one guys
at this point who have been injured in camp have
been kept out for some length of time for whatever reason,
the latest being their first round draft pick Maxwell Hairston.
They thought he tore his ACL and of course the
doctors on Twitter are looking at this and going, look,

(01:09:16):
we can't speculate, but it looks like what the trainer
is doing, the massage that he's offering to Maxwell Harston's
knee is a test.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
That's not a good sign.

Speaker 6 (01:09:25):
They but they said that doesn't necessarily mean that he's hurt,
but it is a test to determine whether you tore
your ACL or LCL or not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:09:34):
Later Tuesday night, he posts a very cryptic post on
Instagram of a picture of him signing an autograph in
his jersey, saying, you know, thanks be to God or whatever,
or you know, praise be to God.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
He's always got my back. Stuff like that. So people
are speculating. I hope this is good news.

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
The NFL beat reporters, I think it was Adam Schefter
and Jordan Schultz reported, and I think Atlanta Getzenberg from ESPN,
who covers the Bill Smith all reported that this is
an ACL Ar'm sorry, an LCL sprain.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
He's only gonna be out for a few weeks. It's
not a tear.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
He's gonna be okay. So everybody breathe the collective sigh
of relief. Here's where my issue comes in with media,
And it's not the media I'm blaming I have a theory,
and I could be wrong on this. Greg Connors might
know better than I would. It seems like you got
a bunch of local guys who bust their humps, who
are living at Fisher, staying away from their families because

(01:10:28):
most are from Buffalo, so.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
They have to camp out of camp.

Speaker 6 (01:10:32):
They're doing all the work here, and yet the story
gets broken by national guys. So that's for either one
or two reasons. One the Bills gave them the story,
which is my theory. Or two, Schefter and Schultz of
these guys are so well connected. They got in touch
with Maxwell Harriston's agent and he told them that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Couldn't the other local guys do that too? So my
theory so I guess.

Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
My theory is that the Bills have a tendency to
let the national guys get the big stories and then
let the local guys fight over what's in front of them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
And I think that's kind of unfair.

Speaker 6 (01:11:04):
I think, how'd you just tell everybody, hey, guys, he's
gonna be okay, it's not our shattering news. But no,
they like to feed the national media because they liked
because they want the national attention, and they want people
like the national guys to give them more attention because
Buffalo is a small market.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
I can understand that, but.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
It kind of if if what I'm saying is true,
and it may not be, I could be wrong, but
you know, you mean to tell me you couldn't give
that story to SalCo Paccio and Thad Brown and Matt
Bouvet and Joebiscalia and Tim Grahmm and those guys to
break they're your local guys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
No, but I do wonder if that's the appeal of
the guys who are right the Adam Schefters and we
know break the news and they have the connections and
maybe they have an insider somewhere that I mean that
could go through. They could be paying somebody, you know,
private personal payroll.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Oh yeah, of some kind.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
It could be so you get that in Maxwell Harrison,
by the way, what what position is he?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Corner?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
And Trey White, who's come back into the fold. A
lot of people are praising the way Trey White has
been playing a camp. Right, but it's camp and we
but I mean we go camp take camps so seriously
because they're not going all out like they would in
the game.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
No, but that's still a great sign. I mean, like
all positive everything said that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
I feel like everything that's coming out of camp has
been for the most part positive. The team looks good,
They're ready there, you know. I love even when Josh says,
I'm I've ground for my money. I think he said
I I have already done the grind for my money.
Uh now, I'm just doing it for the love of
the game. And I believe that. I don't think he's
a guy that I got paid and then you know

(01:12:43):
what I mean, He's just guys fall off after they
get paid.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
I have.

Speaker 6 (01:12:48):
Compared to past generations of bills and I won't get
too specifics. I've never heard a bad word about Josh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Not once.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Yeah, and I think I I know they've been but whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
We found out that was BS.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
I think this team, I don't know. You don't want
to say anything, right, We've seen the schedule. Potentially they
could win every game. They're favored in every favor every
single game so far, and there's a lot of change.

Speaker 6 (01:13:15):
I wrote last week, there's a lot of reasons why
they can and a lot of reasons why they can't. Yeah,
and you know, Kevin brought. The biggest reason. It's the NFL.
I mean, only one team has done it. But but
so Harriston's gonna be okay. So he'll probably he may
not play the preseason up until the last game. And
if you know, if they really believe him, I don't
think they're going to do that. They may actually hold
him back and let him start maybe week two or
week three. I don't know what's going to happen. They

(01:13:37):
really like this kid, and the thing is he Kean
Coleman have gotten the most praise.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:13:41):
Coleman was last year's first pick in the second round.
They traded back, so he really was a first rounder,
but they traded him. They got the first pick in
the second round and they trade or and they got
Keon Coleman. I'm talking too fast. He has really taken
another step. I guess at camp from what everything I've heard, Yes,
what you really want to root for though camp is gridlock.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Here's what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
The offense makes some great plays and the defense makes
some great plays. If one side is dominating the other,
that's a cause for concern. That's a cause for concern.
You want both sides because they're they're both your team.
We tend to lean toward offense because offense.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Scores points, right, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
But Josh Allen's out of the offense.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
But you really want both sides to make plays, and
it sounds like both sides have really made plays.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Allen's putting the ball.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
In certain spots, but then defensive backs are making certain
plays when he does that, so that makes him better,
That makes them better. It makes your receivers.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
But I mean, like the guys who were on the
field that he's practiced, they're doing well, they're doing all right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Like the first day was like Coleman had a bad day.
I'm like, oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Goodness, it's ah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
They're not even in pads yet, you know. But I
mean I think it's I think people but uh, you know,
but like throw the local media bone man. They're the
ones there there every day.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
I mean, tell me you can't get these now because
they they had to have known. If if Harston knew,
it means the coaching a new, it means the PR
team knew. It means the general manager new, and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
For the Asian new.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Let me ask you this, though, does it matter in
the very scheme of things.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
No, it doesn't matter because nobody ever remembers who breaks it.
We just like the news that we got right. And
so my thing is, though there are local guys are kicking,
but they're killing themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
The great local guys. There are great local guys. There
are great local guys in Rochester.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
They're great local guys in Buffalo. I can't deny that
there's some really really talented writers.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
But on the flip side, yes, there are some aggregators
and the hobbyists who said that Harriston was done for
the season.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
With a torney cl today, oh that is good.

Speaker 6 (01:15:35):
A week ago, there was another group of people, an
independent group, that tweeted out that the Bills were going
to have an alternate uniform that was, you know, a
throwback to their first season with like gray helmets and numbers,
and ended up being the red helmet. So either they
got their lines cross because the Bills are going to
debut another uniform in August. We're gonna find out about it. Okay,

(01:15:59):
it's like it's gonna be like like a blizzard type
of uniforms. So maybe that's what they were talking about.
But they got a lot of crap because they got
that story wrong. So ladies and gentlemen, trust your local
media when it comes to Bill's coverage.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Really smart, they're credentialed, they've paid.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
Them.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Hobbyists, well, that's they are. And by the way, there's
nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
But they're like hammou operators, radio operators in some ways.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
In some ways. Yeah, but that's that's okay.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
I'm not killing them like a lot of them A
great opinion hashtag sports are great. Yeah, those guys are great.
But but I mean you gotta like, really like, these
guys work hard to get their sources right. That's why
they're there on the field. They're they're there. They ask
the questions in practice and after practice they do the
tough digging so that you could sit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
There, you know, and stand on their shoulder and go, yeah,
here's what I think kind of like I do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
A wow, I was a little unexpected that you would
say that, but yeah, but you're right, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Yeah, I do. People love your stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
I appreciate Yeah, I think I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Well, hey, man, eight's better than none. Make the way
we look at that, eight is better than none.

Speaker 6 (01:17:06):
So yes, so by the way, yes, this year to
the last year of high Mark Stadium. When you think
of that stadium, what was it? What is it really called?

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
To me, It's rich Stadium.

Speaker 6 (01:17:17):
That's whe all the memories Rich Stadium. I know that
the media and everybody have to call it high Marks.
They paid for the rights of the stadium. That's what
the next stadium is going to be called, high Mark Stadium.
I gotta go to Highmark Stadium. You put your directions
for Harmark Stadium the games of high Mark Stadium. Welcome
to Heimark Stadium. But in casual conversation, can we refer
to it among ourselves as Rich Stadium from now on
for the final year as a tribute, I would like

(01:17:39):
to just refer to it as rich Stadium, and I
would like that to go viral.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I'm not begging for that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:44):
I just think it would be cool because Rich Stadium
was what I've always called it. And Darryl Talley's wife
I tweeted that out. Darryl Talley's wife, Actually she goes,
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
I'm the same. I call it rich Stadium, and a
lot of people like that. There's to be a stresses.

Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
I still call it rich Stadium because there's another generation
who wants to call it the ralph And I understand
why that's but I grew up with the rich Stadium
and that's where they went the four Super Bowls. It
was rich Stadium, and let's call it rich Stadium and
Connors and Fairsfield.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Greg, GREGI fucking love you for that. Yeah, I can't
understand that. Give me some other NFL stuff. I saw
Baker Mayfield being asked about the quarterback situation in Cleveland
and he's like, look, he goes, I believe the fifth
and he goes, it's not my problem anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Not my problem.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
He goes, I played my ass off there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Baker loved to talk, yeah, but bad like he he
knew not to say anything.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
I got to give Baker a lot of credit because
Baker's a dude who ran his mouth when he came
into the NFL, and he could have easily bet at
Johnny Manziel, but he overcame it, and he had a big,
heaping scoop of humble pie that he had to eat
several times. And then Sean mcveigat's a whole of him
in LA and kind of sets him straight. And then
he goes to Tampa and he ends up turning around

(01:18:56):
his career, and now his coordinator is now going the
head coach. He's gotta try to turn around Trevor Lawrence's career,
you know. But Baker's right, I mean, Cleveland's a mess they.
I mean they the owner wanted to draft shde Or Sanders.
You could tell the front office didn't want to do that.
He falls to the fifth round and now they're asking
and now here's how much of a mess Cleveland is. Right,
Cleveland's got five quarterbacks that they're paying right now.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Five.

Speaker 6 (01:19:18):
Remember to Sean Watson, he's out for his career is over.
They still gotta pay him because that money is guaranteed.
But the thing is, though, Jimmy Haslam drafted Johnny Manziel
years ago because a homeless guy gave him a tip.
Says Manziel draft him, and so he homeless guy, homeless guy.
It's been documented. They've done stories about this. A homeless
dude give gives Jimmy Haslam a tip and he says,

(01:19:39):
we're gonna draft Johnny Manziel. I mean, the Cowboys had
to hide Jerry Jones's draft card from him because he
wanted to draft Johnny Manziel. All right, Now, could Johnny
have been something in the NFL if he were sober? Yes,
Skip Bayless broke the story he had a drinking problem.
Nobody believed him because he Skipped Bayless. But Strip Bayless

(01:20:01):
has broken a lot of stories, and he was right.
Johnnie Manzel was an alcoholic. He loved the party. But
to bring it back to Cleveland. Now, there's stories that
Nick Saban wants to get back into coaching and that
he has been talking with the Mannings. The Mannings are
close with Jimmy Haslam because Jimmy Haslam has ties to Tennessee.
That's where Peyton Manning went to school, and they want
to draft arch Manning next year. And Nick Saban wants

(01:20:24):
to come back to the NFL and coach because he
coaches a defensive coordinator under Belichick in Cleveland. You're kidding
the team that's now the Ravens. But yes, that's the story.
Nick wants back.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Have they have Deshaun Watson on the They have.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
That they're paying he'll never see the light of days,
but he's a.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Pay he's still paying him.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
They've got uh Joe Flacco, don't they have? Who's the kid?
From the Steelers can pick Kenny picks on the team.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
The team.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Have five five quarterbacks? Five quarterbacks?

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
What and now?

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
So so they asked you he had the owner about it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:01):
He goes, I think Arch, He goes, I don't know
the Mannings that well, or at least Art goes I've
ever talked to Arch. He goes, I think he's going
to stay in college the whole way to be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
That's a tip. So the Mannings really did whisper in
his ear and say, no, he's gonna stay in college.

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Now, Arch Manning. If his last name weren't Manning, we
wouldn't be talking about him right now.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
No, no, because he couldn't even beat out Quinn Yours
last year until an injury. By the way, Quinn Yours
is now in Miami as the second or third string.
He's funny for the second string job behind Tool, which
means he'll probably see the light of day this year.
It's too always gets hurt. So but I mean, yeah,
Baker's right. The Browns are a freaking mess. They're messier
than Baker.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
At least Baker got out, you know, So that's interesting.
But the shedur thing now his father, Dion. Did you
hear what they had to do.

Speaker 6 (01:21:47):
They went in and they took his bladder out, and
then they took us his intestine and built a new
bladder for him from his lower intestin.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
He's basically peeing out of his intestines. Can't imagine?

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Was like shit, dude, it feels like hell, yeah, yes
it does.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
He had batter cancer.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
They have many thoughts, but I will keep them all.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Oh my gosh, yeah he do.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
I instantly thought of something.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah, it feels like well, I mean,
good for him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Yeah, he's a lot. Coach Prime is okay, and Coach
Prime keeps his faith right, He's a man of faith
and uh, he seems to be behaving himself so far.

Speaker 6 (01:22:23):
Well, I want to tell all the stories together. Okay,
everybody talking about shoud Or Sanders. He might be the
second overall pick. He fell to the fifth round. Can
we not annoint arch Manning just yet? Can we learn nothing?
Did we learn nothing from this situation with shad Or Sanders?
Because nobody wants to tell the Mannings anything either, But
the Mannings are wise.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Enough to understand. He listen, this is Cooper's kid.

Speaker 6 (01:22:42):
This isn't Peyton or this is Cooper's kid, and there's
gonna be There's gonna be more Mannings down the road, supposedly,
But I mean, can we just pump the brakes here
at this kid? Let him play college football?

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
First?

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Looks like he's talented.

Speaker 6 (01:22:55):
He's got a big game to start off the season
against Ohio State national champions. So yeah, the spotlight's going
to be hot enough, and we didn't always gonna come out,
so let's all just pump. But Nick Saban, dude, somebody
at Cowhard Show said, if the Bills don't get past
the Chiefs this year, did you see Nick Saban and
Buffalo not here?

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Tell me, I tell you right now.

Speaker 4 (01:23:15):
No, no, absolutely no.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
Now who would you rather have Nick Saban or Bill Belichick?
I don't know that Belichick is always better than Saban.
Would I might take Saban? I think save it's more
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
He's not distracted by like a twenty four year old.

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
There are stories in New England and Kevin might attested
this that he he basically punted out his last couple
of seasons because he was so distracted by this chick.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Come on, somehow, I don't somehow beat the bills up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
I don't yeah, exactly, I don't believe that, all right, Danny.
Any other NFL insights.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
Uh bajorally Baseball trade deadline's coming out of if our
audience cares about.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
So the Yankees picked up a lefty, yeah batter.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
They got problems.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Dude looks like he's a slugger.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Season's over.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Oh my god, damn for next year for Dan Barillo.
Great NFL insight for me in the video of falling
off the dock and whatever happened earlier today, I have
no idea. I apologize to you in advanced my name
is Bill Moran, and will see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
I won't be in HOLTL.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
Didn't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
I turn a TV rule A letter to you, st

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