September 23, 2025 • 48 mins
Bill takes the show straight to the source—the lobby of MJ Dispensary in Henrietta—for a conversation that’s as enlightening as it is… let’s just say, a little smoky. He’s joined by Michelle, MJ’s HR and Events Director (aka the woman who makes sure the vibes are professional and festive), and Grace, the official “Bud Trainer” (yes, that’s a real job title, not Bill’s new gym routine).
Together, they cover everything from the surprising health benefits of marijuana and the risks of some over-the-counter pain relievers, to why the medical community might lean into cannabis more in the future. Plus, Bill floats his own theory on why marijuana will stay federally illegal—and it’s one you’ll definitely want to chew on (preferably not in edible form, but hey, your choice).
On the lighter side, you’ll get the inside scoop on MJ’s big expansion, how you can join the MJ family, and the can’t-miss “Halloweed Party” that’s guaranteed to be a joint effort in fun.
Whether you’re curious about cannabis, passionate about legalization, or just in it for the puns, this episode of Billified: The Bill Moran Podcast is sure to keep your spirits high.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
Together, they cover everything from the surprising health benefits of marijuana and the risks of some over-the-counter pain relievers, to why the medical community might lean into cannabis more in the future. Plus, Bill floats his own theory on why marijuana will stay federally illegal—and it’s one you’ll definitely want to chew on (preferably not in edible form, but hey, your choice).
On the lighter side, you’ll get the inside scoop on MJ’s big expansion, how you can join the MJ family, and the can’t-miss “Halloweed Party” that’s guaranteed to be a joint effort in fun.
Whether you’re curious about cannabis, passionate about legalization, or just in it for the puns, this episode of Billified: The Bill Moran Podcast is sure to keep your spirits high.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
On location. I'm driven by or Dots G. Brown. It's
Billified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks
for getting your pot on or should I say your
(00:26):
pot on today because we were at MJ Dispensary where
we just recorded the third podcast, right.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Michelle is all excited. They've got their big hollowed events
on October twenty fifth.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, twelve to five. It's a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Come on, yeah, man, have fun, put on a costume,
be something, costume contest, just say costume contest, Pumpkin carving contest.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Carving contest, other games and prizes. We have our big Wheel.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Just a couple of things about MG, real quick expansion
is happening. Yes, this is to me amazing and there's
gonna be one I'm going to say on the far
west side and the far east side of Monroe County. Correct,
honeyways still in Monroe County, right.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I believe follows is still Monroe County.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Which is perfect because you're right out in that, you know, Pittsford,
Fairport to get all those Yes, that's fantastic, and these
are going to open in the next couple of months.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yep, I would say within the next two to three
months is what we're shooting for. I mean, right, can
be bumps in the road, you never know, but that's
our goal, right, Okay, Yeah, it's going to be phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It is. It's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm doing a lot of hiring right now. Intent anybody
got a resume and three references.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Drop them off, right, And who's sitting with you today.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
This is Grace. She's one of our lead bud tenders.
She's phenomenal. She she's also is now we declared her
our lead trainer, real training people. She's been very good.
We brought on a couple of new employees.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, and she's got to train them all.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
She's taken the rain.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, uh, phenomenal. What what's your I'm going to ask you,
like what's your weed journey? But like what is that?
Because well, you know, you come here and you've got
to if you're it's really about education, right, I mean,
there's so many different strains. The's somebody I used to
joke like you need a restrictor plate on weed nowadays
because you know, you get the wrong thing and it's like, hey,
(02:23):
i'll see you, I'll see you in the spring. You
know what I mean, right in three days, and I
just think that it. I think it's amazing what has
happened in New York State. I wish it would go
at the federal level. And we seem to be a
little silly with this stuff. Maybe the things should have
been reversed. Maybe there there should have been more regulations
on alcohol and not so much and weed. But whatever
(02:45):
that aside kind of you know, where did you get
your education and interest? Was it the hallways of your
high school?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And then I don't know, I think after college ye
just kind of like helped me a lot, you know,
in terms of getting into like adulthood over anxiety and yeah,
I don't know, I think it helped me a lot.
And then I started learning more and more like through
my partner, and started like growing some plants, okay, started
(03:23):
watching some fun videos about all the processes of creating
the oils and you know, crying the flower and such, and.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Where did you go to college? And what? Four?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I went to college the College of Saint Rose.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, which I think is no longer right, no longer.
That's just sad. It's kind of sad because that was
a really I assume music niche were.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, I went from music industry and they were really
niche with a few different things like music industry, not
many places. What else was there?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I remember a friend of mine when I graduated, and
I'm bazillion years older than you, wanted to go to
Saint Rose and I think in but there was some
financial restraints on it. And what was like that was
considered one of the best in the area now by Albany. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
So you went for music, music and business, music and business. Sure, No,
(04:17):
that's great, that's like see you again. Smart. So here
we go here, that's smart, that's like thinking ahead here. No,
I gotta have some knowledge. I don't want to get
screwed on the contract kind of thing. That's the kind
of thinking that's going on in that.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And so from how did you end up with MJ
and the love of Weed? And I say love of it?
And I know it sounds bad maybe the way I'm
phrasing it, But what I mean is the knowledge, Right
you like helping people?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean I just also love to learn as well.
So I mean I went from bartending to this, which
I think was a very easy maneuver.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Sure, I think I called those transferable skills, right yeah,
a way to talk to people, right yeah, looking for
an escape, that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yep. But then I don't know. I think I just
love to learn, and so this provide me with an
opportunity to, like I already knew a lot, sure, learn
even more. And I just love the fact of like
helping people out and getting them to be a little
bit more knowledgeable themselves.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And right att Yeah, and then all the training stuff.
So what goes on in it in like training like.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Our buttender training on Wednesday, so the vendor will come in,
they give us their speel on the company, how the
company came about, and then whatever products they have they
teach us, whether if it's a vape or concentrate gummies,
how those are made. In the process of making those,
they'll bring in like products for us, Like if it's flour,
(05:47):
they bring in the flower, We sniff it, we can
feel it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Really Oh yeah, wow, this is.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, it's like a good forty five minutes to an
hour training. They bring us breakfast too, so it's like
in samples they bring us. You know, it's nice.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's well, it's the way you it should be done.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Oh yeah, and it's the respect I mean, especially for
the new people coming in who don't know the products
we have on the shelves, right.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I think it's really important to to like meet the
people behind the brand as well.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, so you can know their story. Yeah, that's true
because it's their journeys. Yeah, it's such a thing. Like
doctor Dankenstein was one of my favorite people. Yes, he's amazing.
He's like just a big lovable bear.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He is he is, He's cool, he's cool ash too.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well. I think it's it's it's fantastic. I love the
fact that there's the expansion and stuff, but I always worry, like, uh,
maybe it's more the edibles. You know. I grew up
down by Woodstock, so weed was always around. Uh not
my not my house. My parents were not into that
at all, but my friend's parents were. Like I got
(07:01):
high with a friend's mom. We did this. People would
make pop brownies, you know, and so the edibles. And
I had a teacher in high school who would say
to me all the time, if you're going to smoke it,
smoke it through a bong because the heat on a
joint can melt the soldering on a roach. Cliff smoke
it through a water bond, and that's what he would
say to me. I don't know if this is true
(07:22):
or I'm just telling you what he said, And this
is nineteen eighties, eighty five, eighty seven somewhere in there.
And then he would say the best way to consume
it is to eat it, because you know, you don't
want that heat in your lungs. You don't want that,
so you would eat it. But the problem with eating
it when it was made in brownie for stuff is
you Yeah, but it was never evenly distributed. Somebody who
(07:45):
eat at one end of the brownie pan was fucked
up for days, and the other person's like, hey, man,
I don't think anything happened, right, right, So that was
always it. And then the uh I find though with
sometimes with the gummies if I don't know what I'm doing.
I had a whole incident one summer where a friend
of mine gave me a gummy. Yeah, we're down on
(08:06):
uh Cuca Lake, and then we're at his house and
we're drinking, of course, and then then yeah, then he
throws me a gummy. UH swears it's five milligram. Nobody
believes us, We get we get on the boat. We
go to another house, big party, everything hanging out, and
(08:27):
all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm gonna get sick.
So I run into the bathroom and then I Michelle,
I had to crawl out. I crawl into the bed,
the perfectly made bed, and I just crawl up and
like I had to pass out for a while. But
not only is it not I didn't even know the
(08:49):
people's eyes, did not even know the people's whose house
it was. I see them all the time now and
I'm always like, oh my god, I want to die.
But it's like this big, beautiful home right on Cuca Lake,
and you know there's all these people hanging out and
park in their boats, and you know they're drinking and
having a good time. And I am like gone, and
I go that's the bad part. And I think that
(09:11):
sometimes turns people away from what is a healthy alternative.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh yeah, that's why the legal markets the best, because
you know how much you're eating and know how much
you're getting, you know what's in it that you're consuming. Also,
I mean I remember those days making brownies, making gummies.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And how do you make gummies?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh it's so easy, is it really?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh yeah, wait, you know how to make gummies too,
I've seen it. Guess I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I've done it. You see, I prefer making oils instead
of butter. Can of oil and once there, what.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Do you do? Like cook things in it? Like instead
of like olive oil, you're throwing a panty. You throw your.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
In the thc well oil. But like my best friend
and I, we always wanted the cheat way of making
gummies because it tastes so long. You gotta do the gelatin,
you gotta do this that. So we would buy Swedish
fish and gummy bears and we melted them and then
just in a pot we would infuse the oil with
(10:15):
it and it made the like fruit roll ups.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, oh yeah it was great. I love sweetish fish.
Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Mean it was more expensive to make that way, but
it was so easy to make and they were very tasty.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah okay, Now you had to have an experience on
one of these, like the sweetish fish. Did you ever
get so high on sweetis fish? Like your No? No,
nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
No, I'm eaten. So in the gray market, there used
to be candy bars that were going around. They looked
like twigs reasy peanut buttercups. They stated they were a
thousand milligrams, which I'm thinking they were probably two three
maybe in all reality, I ate both that equivaled a
thousand milligrams, and I really yeah, I felt like I
(11:06):
was floating on a cloud. But it's not like I
was like, but it was. It was a fun experience.
I'm laying in bed like, huh, yeah, I love this.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I'm a cloud, right, I mean, here, here's the thing.
So many people have a problem with sleep, right, There's
so many people who are sleep deprived and sleep deprivation,
and there's a number of studies that would compare sleep
deprivation to drinking alcohol and you're deprived and you get
behind the wheel of a car and I'm definitely sleep deprived.
(11:38):
I mean I for years and years and years, right,
So I think that sometimes if you can have something
and everybody will try melatonin doesn't work for me, they'll
try something else, but then they'll try like a zequill
for that isn't exactly medicine, but that's what it is.
It's something. Yeah, And so when you come to MJ there,
(11:59):
I would assume there's I'll ask the tram. Yeah, I
would say, right, do you use anything to help you sleep?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Honestly, I just smoked before, but typically, oh really, so
I don't do like gummies or anything to help me sleep.
I just usually smoke a good joint of indoca and
yeah and I'm out. I don't have sleep problems, so
like I I fall asleep pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, I could sleep for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Now we have kids, so we're definitely sleep deprived.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'm sleep deprived and I got a kid. Yeah, Like
it drives you crazy. What's going on drives me absolutely
bat When.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I get it. I get it. Teenagers they're not They're fun,
but they're not easy.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
No, and look at it's part of growing up and
neither nor way right.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean, I was a perfect little angel, honestly, honestly,
I was like no one knew like that I was
a pothead or I drank. Everyone thought I was the
goody goodie jeez.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Not only did they know that I drank, the cops
showed up in my house when there was a party
that I wasn't act that property got destroyed, and they
wanted me to squeal on my buddies because they knew.
I knew everybody was that was there. Oh my god,
true story, true story I had. I got voted most
likely to still be looking for a party ten years
later in my yearbook.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I would walk around with my dad was so mad.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I would walk around with a sports bottle in school
with a screwdriver in it shut. Oh yeah, no one
knew they thought it.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
We really can't smell vodka? Yeah, orange juice. Hey, I
like the way you think.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And you know, I got people coming in that I
graduated with, and they'll see me. They're like what I'm like,
I swear I'm still a good girl, but I'm like, yeah,
I was a closet stoner. Yeah everybody. Yeah, I think
dad's out of the bag.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah. I would assume did you do more arts in
high school?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Oh for sure?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah? So was that not very pop to learn the arts?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
No, I would say it's still very popular. Say everyone
my senior year of high school, like bonded over smoking.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Where can I ask where you went?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I hope not to like throw people into the bus,
but around quite high school?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh god, yeah, I'm well, I'm sure, yes, Like it's
out there you're not going to put this genie back
in a bottle. And now that it's legal, at least
you know what you're getting. Oh, you're not getting some
strain that or god forbid laced, right.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
We hear that kind of fun back in the day.
But I definitely think it's nice to know exactly what
you're smoking.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Able to see it.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Like the testing I think is just like huge because yeah,
especially like the lacing and stuff, like you can see
everything on everything. There's the CoA that you can scan
and know exactly what you're getting. Go down into the terpeens,
figure out what works best for you and what like
you prefer the most.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Or Yeah, tell me about like your family and stuff.
Growing up. Were they open to the idea of marijuana?
Not open? Like my parents were not open. No, and
they were teachers, And my mother has gotten a little
bit cooler. And then one year Maine, well I don't
(15:25):
know if main I don't know what the legal status
of marijuana isn't me. My brother lives in Kennybunk and
my mother went up there because he has younger kids
than I do, and she used to come up when
my boys were growing up to do Halloween with the
boys and go around trick or treating. I get a
call from my brother and I'm at a costume party.
He goes, dude, Mom, just like they kept teasing her
(15:47):
about taking a gummy, and she popped the gummy and
I Michelle, I don't know if it was a twenty
five milligram or whatever. So he puts her on the phone.
She's laughing as she was Yeah. And so then then
my dad, who died in July, kept calling me, going,
I went down. He lived in Jersey, and Jersey I
(16:08):
think has legal marijuana. He went to the dispensary. He goes,
I bought a gummy. I'm afraid to try. I'm afraid
to So I don't know if he ever did or didn't,
But then we're thinking he did once because he like
passed out for like a day on the couch, like
I think, so oh, so these people who were so
I don't I guess up type. My dad used to brag, Yeah,
(16:29):
you know where I was going when I was in Woodstock.
I was going the when Woodstock happened. I was going
the opposite way, on a through way to a wedding.
I was in a three piece suit like he said,
I like a some square, which I find okay, that's fine,
But then I find out years later I think my
uncle was growing it once in a while, and so
I'm like, but they they claim they never did it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I believe that my dad never.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
But they were of that generation. Like graduating college in
the summer of love right in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Nine is like finding out later down the line.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Oh yeah, well it is later down the line. And
we've done such a great job of scaring the shit
out of people and making this the evil drug that
you you should never do. I mean, I you know, look.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
The devil the nineties commercials or early two thousands commercial
braining into the couch. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's wild or
it's still wild to like watch them.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah yeah, I forgot. I was I was almost too
old for those, but you would see them on MTV
and stuff sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. So they did a great
job of working against it. And I always say, like,
and people think I'm a little crazy. I go, in
my lifetime, all the technology that we have, we're now
sitting in your lobby recording a podcast, right, basically a
(17:50):
radio station without a tower. That's what we are. And
you can do all this because of technology. We have iPads,
we have this, you can find out any information. No
reason to be stupid anymore because it's all right here.
And I still will say. One of the biggest things
in my life is the one eighty on marijuana. Right.
I know Michelle has heard the story a million times.
(18:11):
Fourth grade, I had a drug counselor come into my
classroom and burn weed in like like a strainer, like
one of these screens, and he just said, if you
ever smell this, you come find an adult.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh no, come find it.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'm starting now, I'm starting to think like if you come,
if you smell this, you will find it at the time.
But the strangest thing, so that's your fourth grade education.
You were scared. If you ever smell this, you're in
big trouble. You better get in here. You know, you're
talking to nine year olds. That's an early indoctrination of
what weed is or is not. And so as I
(18:54):
see this one eighty, I really think that's one of
the biggest things that I've seen in my life.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh yeah, Like I witnessed it through my son, like
they still when he was he's a senior. Now when
he was in elementary school. They pushed wheat is bad,
Wheat is bad. Weat is bad. Yeah, my son knew
from an early age. Mom's a consumer. Basically, I started
it again right for health reasons, so he would come
home Mom. They're saying it's bad, but you say it
(19:19):
helps you. I'm like, I had explained the stigma. I'm like, look,
it's good for you for health reasons. I'm like, if
you want to go out and enjoy yourself when you're older, yes,
but you have to consume responsibly once you get older.
I'll explain it more detail.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You're starting to see this with alcohol a little bit now.
You had it when I was a kid, right, I'm
fifty four, so eighty five or something. I think that's
around the time or maybe the early eighties. Mad started
mothers against drunk having and so that was like a
really I think the government started to fund these things
and rightfully so. But now, and I was saying this
(19:58):
to you on your podcast store pot cast. Excuse me,
get it right, Get it right. That alcohol. You're starting
to hear like, no consumption is ever good for you scientifically.
Right now, I will tell you I love to drink.
Alcohol was glorified in my household grown up. My dad,
who wouldn't touch weed, was you know, mister doctor in
(20:22):
philosophy and educator and all this love to get hammered,
I mean just loved it right. Used to buy what
was called the cocktails for two. You could buy these
pre made. They were called cocktails for two, so old
that the thing was had a styrofoam label on it,
and I used to try to peel it off without
preconnet as a kid. Yeah, well I'm a little older
(20:43):
than you much and the so in the big fight
in the house was my mother screaming, he.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Buys cocktails for two, but they're really for one.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Could drink it all right, So but it was always glorified.
This is what dad did to relax when Mom wasn't home,
and he would make a big dinner, have the house
sparkling clean before she came home. He'd be helping us
with homework, but you would notice his tolerance would drop.
And it wasn't just orae juice. He was drinking and
then even start singing to me as we're doing the homework,
(21:15):
and I couldn't figure out you are so stupid that
I am so smart. True true, you wonder why I'm
fucked up, I hear you. But the point being that
now we're starting to get that education the other way
on alcohol. Oh yeah, And I would love to know
what's being said about marijuana. And I don't know in
(21:36):
schools are they starting to say there's medicinal benefits to it?
I mean, look, I had that one cool teacher, right, cor.
I mean, I think if any teacher was told her
that he was telling us that, they probably would have
been fired. Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Sure they don't talk about it. I mean, like I said,
my son is a senior now, but they don't talk
about it. And like the health classes at all in
the Ice school, he said, interesting, which I I think
personally they shouldn't talk about it. I think that should
be a parent's responsibility. Nice to educate your children right
on marijuana legal and illegal, right, I mean, and the
(22:17):
alcohol too. I mean, I get it. I grew up
in the family Lake yours. My dad was a car
salesman my whole life. Come home, crack open a beer,
sure weekends, he'd have his dry Southern comfort Manhattan with
a twist. Yeah. After he passed away, my brother and
I took my mom out to eat and we tried
one in memory of my dad. That thing was so
fucking discussied fuel that I was like, that's like.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You know those cars that blow out fire to go
down to the dragway. It's putting thee.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I mean, I grew up where Okay, I'm in fifth
grade here, Michell'll have a beer. Yeah, okay, it was okay, yeah.
I mean, and I'm not far off from your age.
I grew up in the eighties. We're in the seventies.
I mean so yeah, I mean part family parties. Me
and my cousins would be running around with half drink
beers that our dads would give us.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I mean that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So what's the difference of I grew up with alcohol
prominent or if my son grows up with marijuana prominent.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, I think the difference is what's the difference. I
do think there's a difference. I think that alcohol is. Yeah.
I don't think there's ever any I was never told
drink responsibly. No, No, you had a Frank a newer
podcast which will be come now talk about consumption right
(23:37):
but proper. I don't know if I'm using the right term,
but appropriate consumption. We'll say and to me that that
is what it's about, because there's so many things. You know,
we talk about just the sleep, talk about people with
and I'm going to say this wrong, but I hear
a lot of people talk about fibromyalgia.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I have fibromiologia.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Oh well, look at me, just step into that that one.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Cannabis is a miracle drug.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, I was on three different prescriptions, and you and
I have talked about how my doctor took me off
all my mads. I feel most my pain in my back,
my feet, in my hands. I will do either smoke
a little bit when I first wake up, so when
I get to work, I'm not stupid high. But it
really is my pain.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Know what it takes to relieve the pain. So it
would be like taking a time on all or Yeah, for.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
An average person would be like ibuprofen. But sometimes the
pain gets so bad an average person would want a narcotic.
That's how bad my pain can get. In my hands, well,
I mean yeah, a lot of times I'm walking around here,
I'm like, can you open this? My hands aren't working
today because fibromagia, it like it mirrors, Like if I'm
having an issue on the left side, the right side
(24:50):
will be exactly the same, hands, knees, feet, head.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
What is that fibromyalgia?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It is like it's an inflammation of your nerves. Okay,
it's There's still controversy over the exact disease because people
say doctors made it up because they couldn't find a
diagnosis for people who had these pains. They thought it
was in their head. I mean, it's very similar to rheumatoia.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
So many people were not we just gave it exactly.
It was like everybody basically that's basically.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
What the medical community was.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You're crazy, but we're going to give it to you.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, we're gonna okay, we're going to make up this.
And other people, like in the insurance industries and other practices,
they're like, no, this is not a real disease.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You need to die right.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It is, and it's very common in females and it's
more common in males. Little do people know, and the
medications do not help men. I have seen three people.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Man, Okay, wait, when you say don't help men, the
first thing I think it is and I'm not trying
to be craph but some kind of sexual problem.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, no, not that way. No, No, it does not
cause okayand I mean there's stuff to counter that.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh yeah, but like your gummy.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
In Actually we do have right marijuana for everything I
told you, Yes, But like the medications don't help with
the inflammation and the pain for some reason with men.
I honestly don't know the scientific backing behind it. I
don't know if it has something to do with testosterone
(26:37):
or women's with their hormone levels. But I know three
individuals men fybromelgia. None of the pills ever helped. Marijuana helps.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah. Yeah, you just kind of keep it at a
even keel and it gets rid of it. I would
correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't. I haven't watched
the news a whole lot yether do I I find
it very depressing, and I think that for your mental
health sometimes you need to honestly stay away from him. Yeah,
but I thought I just heard something where President Trump
stood up and talked about how bad Thailand all is.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Now, I don't know if I did that, but I
can agree.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I think that he Okay, Now, I'm glad I brought
this up. Because and I am because you were a nurse.
Uh he talked about like I think, and then you
gotta be careful with some of this stuff. Oh yeah,
you know he likes to shoot from the hip, which
can be someone if you're not too affected by it,
you can look at what the fuck? But the I
(27:33):
think he was saying something about autism rates and then
he goes, it's just bad for you. It's just bad
for you. Don't take it's just bad for you. Now
we've had it for so long and and and everybody,
I would think majority of people at some point, I
think even doctors have said, if your kid has a
fever or something, alternate tiland all advil, right, and I
think I did tailand all sinus. You can wild side
(27:55):
his headaches at time, so like just wild I don't
know what would you?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So I don't know about the whole I've been out
of the healthcare field since all these studies with the
autism and that comes out. Don't the one thing I
do know, and I have seen the proof for this,
Talano can kill your liver, especially if you do take
it on a regular basis. Now me, I take it
here and there, not often. If I have a headache,
which isn't that often, but if you're taking it like
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there was. At one point I was having medical issues
about ten fifteen years ago. I was taking five advil
four times a day, per my doctor. Advil doesn't work
on me anymore. Because of that, I built up a
tolerance where any ibuprofen does not help. So yeah, I
(28:46):
mean then they ruin your liver. I mean I know
some people who go in for liver tests because they
were chronic tnnel users.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Wow. Yeah, And so you can definitely have something at
mj oh that you can get, right, lots of stuff
for clean as well. Yeah, a lot of things for.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Pain, headaches, everything. CB.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
What would you say to somebody because you know it's
another one CBC. Okay, So if I came in here
and I said, I get migraines, right, what would you recommend?
Because I have a friend that tries acupuncture for this
stuff and it seems to work a little bit or temporary.
And I keep saying, go to AMNJ. I do I
(29:27):
just go to am J. They'll help you find They're
so smart, they're so nice. You know, you don't have
to worry. I think there's still that stigma, because boy
did they do it, as we've said, a great job
of painting it with a broad brush. That's not appropriate.
Not true, right, right, not true.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I'll have Grace answer this one.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, I would say, just like we've been talking about,
like the two biggest things that I get are either
pain or for sleep, for like headaches. Honestly, there's a
company called the Green Lady, and they label it the Painkiller.
That's like the name of the product. And yeah, it
has CBC and CBG in it, and yeah, people love
(30:10):
that one.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, like CBC.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's also just.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
A very good.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I love that formula.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Just it's like it's happiness to me. Oh yeah really
And CBC has been as they say, I mean, it's
been shown to help headaches.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Okay, so yeah, well there you go. That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I mean that with the combination of the THC and
the CBG, I mean, tax inflammation helps your pain. You're
feeling uplifted.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Here's a somewhat of a I guess an offbeat question.
But my sister has lime disease, has had lime disease
since eighteen years old, badly to the point where she
couldn't walk and stuff and thinks that she's had like
just recently was in Iceland for a vacation. This summer.
(31:05):
They go on these great vacations. They won't take their well,
they won't take their kids to Disney, and one kid
was complaining, we always go to a beach, so instead
of Disney, they do these trips. Gets about the equivalent,
and so they went to Iceland, then they went to Denmark,
and then they went to Croatia and the beaches in
Croatia for over two weeks. While in Iceland, they're taking
(31:25):
a snowmobile trip up a glacier and my niece shifts
the wrong way on the back of my sister's snowmobile
and it rolls over and my sister wound up trying
to lift it off, worrying that it was gonna be
on the kid. As a result, has four months now
walked around and it is going to have I think
surgery today on her thumb because she tore the ligament
(31:48):
and it wrapped around the muscle, and then she tore
a rotator cuff in the other shoulder. And she's saying
that there was like she just thinks and she worries
about herself. She goes I don't know that's wrong with me.
Like one of the kids was born at home because
she didn't realize she was in labor, and she goes,
I wonder if I just don't feel good so often
(32:09):
that I just figure that's part of it, right, Okay,
And there's other things in her health too that have happened,
and she's gone to all kinds of alternative doctors, but
no insurance covers it. So you're paying sometimes up to
thirty grand out a pocket. Right. Do you see in
the future doctors that will be recommending more marijuana types stuff?
(32:34):
Do you understand what I'm saying, but that would be
uncovered by insurance and can actually benefit and help people.
I don't know. I know it's a little bit of
a deep question, but it's a yeah. I mean, I
think having been in the healthcare you know, you're certainly
in the business you maybe you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I mean, I feel if they declassified it and bring it,
you know, legal onto the federal level, why can't insurance
companies cover it for people? Do copays?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I mean, right now, even for medicinal you have to
pay cash for the doctor visit, right, because of what
you're going for insurance won't cover it because.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's a federal yet.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, because you're going for cannabis, right, so that's in
your chart, insurance won't pay for it. So right there,
you're paying a couple one hundred and fifty two hundred
dollars for the doctor visit. Yeah, then you got to
pay one hundred dollars for the card, the actual medicinal
marijuana card. So you're in what two fifty, three.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Hundred, fifty or three hundred.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Then by the time you can only use it in medicinal.
Now they do, I've heard word of mouth they do
give you discounts and stuff. They can do that legally
in medicinal. But still, I mean, it's it's it's outrageous
the price. Yeah, that that is like just come to
recreational and pay thirty forty fifty bucks for your.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Eighth Yeah, that's exactly. But get here and I'm sorry, yeah,
but you guys are like doctors. I don't and I'm
the I use that loosely because I certainly don't want
to get but you know, you have enough knowledge that
you can help somebody who's in pain, and I just
wonder I'll ask you how many people have come back
(34:09):
and go, oh my god, thank.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You, Oh God.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Definitely, it happens often.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
People definitely find what works for them, and you have
to like and they stick to it because.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Sure, we find what works. Like and when we say
find what works, you're doing the same thing. Let's say
you have fibromialgia and you're a guy and nothing has worked.
How many different have you tried? Oh yeah, right, okay, pill.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I went through a lot of different medication.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yes, right. So that's what I'm saying, is that, But
but you'll have people here who guide you, will remember
you right you come back, They're going to remember you.
They're going to say, hey, how did that work for you? You know,
or you remind them of whatever it is. But I
just think that there were heading in a great direction,
like I do, and I think that that's a good thing.
(34:56):
Has your family, who did you say was not very
Are they a little more now? Have they tried some
of the stuff?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I mean? I think I talk My mom is also
like a nurse, and we talk a lot about it,
and like she's definitely like open to me, like discussing
like everything that I do. I'm still trying to get
my dad to it because you know, he has so
much pain. Like he is, he's older, and all he
(35:24):
talks about is like saving his liver.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I'm like, how old is your dad? Can I
answer seventy is older? Okay, But if she said it,
I absolutely believe that. But your mom, as someone in
the medical field, does she see the benefits of it?
(35:48):
Sometimes has she tried anything?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I think she is, like, yes, opening up to like all.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Over, like the benefits because it's almost like you can't
ignore it anymore, you know. And I think that's wonderful.
And I think, like you, being a person, you could change,
you might be able to help change the medical field
a little bit. No nurse comes in and goes, hey,
I got to tell you.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
You know, yeah, I mean we have doctors at the
VA that recommend patients here. Sure so, And I'm loving
it because, like you said, will doctors ever talk about this? Yeah,
they're doing it now.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Good good. I just well they did, Like if you
had somebody on who's taking cancer drugs and they need you.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, wait, it's more prominent now, yes, for doctors to
talk about I just wish, like you said, it would
be great for it to go federally legal, so insurance
can pay for this for people who really, really truly
need it from medicinal I.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Keep hearing rumblings that Trump was going to push through
at the federal level. I don't know how much blockage
there is because here's the thing. What you know, it
always comes down to money, is it not. Oh yeah,
big pharma, big money. Oh yeah, money. So people would
be out.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's the thing to a lot of people don't want
it to end up in the federal level because then
you'll be able to go to Walgreens or something to
buy it because there's pharmacists.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Okay, great, but you know what, they're not going to
spend the time to talk to you and do the
right thing. I understand, yeah, but they're not. I would
always want to come to a dispensary where that's all
they do. You know, I don't need the guy A
Bob from Bikes can come up. Bill's got a question
about weed? You know what I'm saying, because that's what
the fuck they're gonna do. Hey, I know Bob gets
(37:28):
high in the back there a couple of times, you
know what I mean? Like that, I don't need that.
Come to MJ where aesome, you know. But that's that's
how it works.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Bob's busy. But we got a bill here from hardware.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, you're looking for nuts and bolts. Oh, you're looking
to get MutS. You know. It's like that bothers me
because it is simplifying something that isn't you know, And
I'm not again, I understand maybe you could get it pharmacies.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I know CBD you ken now you can. Yeah, I've
seen it at Walgreens right near my house. Oh yeah, okay,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, but wouldn't you want to talk to somebody. They're
not going to be I guarantee they're not gonna be
able to do. Yeah, you come in here, She'll be
able to walk you right through. You'll be able to
walk them right through to whatever. And if the other
employees can't, you can always blame her because she's the trainer. Right,
I got there.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
There I go.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, it's a lot of pressure. No, it's not. That's
that's Yeah. I think that the way this is all
going is great. I love hearing about the expansion of
MJ Dispensary. I love that we're sitting in the lobby.
I always wanted to do it out here with you.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I know you did, Yeah, and we made it happen today.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, I want to come, like I think the monthly
stuff when we do the one in October, Yeah, October
twenty fifth at the Hallowed party. Can we do it
in the lobby?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, we can do it in here.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Is it bad for you to pull away from the tent,
it's not.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
The Only thing is sometimes the lobby here can get
full because it's so crowded in there. We can't fire
your code. We can only let so many people back
onto the sales floor, so sometimes there's overflow of people
waiting here.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm just saying, like out there, sometimes the Wi fi
doesn't right well, And yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
We could definitely do it in here because people want
to see you guys. Oh yeah they do.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Well, No, how do you know? Maybe they do? You know,
some guy with a thick Italian accent called up looking for.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I wonder why I'm getting stocked by people.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
That's fantastic. Well, I'm really really thankful, and well I
will wrap it up here that you agreed to do
this today. You're helping me out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Hey, you helped me out. I didn't have to travel
to Fairport today, So.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
No, and I know I think that's uh yeah, Fairport
is so far. Here's the thing, like, I love Fairport
and I lived I lived in Pittsford with my when
my guys were little, and I love Fairport more. It's
just it's it's that oh yeah, it's got that village feel, right.
So I grew up down by Rhinebeck, New York, which
(40:11):
was a village. My mom lives there now. It's familiar.
But there's no easy way to get to Fairport.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
They're just is not an easy way. It's not right
off four ninety.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
No, it's not fucking lying to me to do that loud,
you know, And I need something you need to come back.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Do you have anything that that would be like a
not a zolof a what what would be like an antidepressant?
People going like yeah, yeah, yeah or something like that.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
We have stuff that all work similar to.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, just enough to level the Out's a.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Whole gross of them.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Well you'll find it all here. MJ Dispensary, Jefferson Road
and Henrietta soon to be in spencer Port are you
gonna have to train the spencer Port employees.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Are you are you going to be in charge of
MJ Dispenser MJ's training program.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, I mean now that's hopefully where we'll be heading
because everybody will train in the store. This is going
to be the main hub. Okay, train everybody, then put
them into their stores.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
So yeah, I think that I like it. So this
is like where so if you're in this area, this
is where you need to come. But then the Honeyoy store.
Honeyoy Falls another quaint little village, right uh, and then spencer.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Port another quaint little village.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It is another quaint little village. Now that I think
about it, Now we need to.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Go to Fairport.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I guess yes, yes, yes, Well they're starting now too.
I think to even put some of the drinks, but
I think they have to be like hemp drived three
per what do you know about that? No, but the drinks,
I think, like bars are starting to sell them, but
(42:07):
they're really low percentage. Not people are like, why would
I even drink this?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, it's like zero point zero three percent something like that.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And they're why is that?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
So you get the benefits of the hemp other than
the just THHC like hemp, like Christian was saying, is
similar to that CBD that gives you the relaxation, and
hemp does that also.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Okay, So, and I.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Think bars in stores that can legally sell those are thinking,
oh it says THHC on it marketing, I'll be able
to sell these. But even though they're not really one
hundred percent got it?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a whole changing world, but very controlled. Right,
It's still very controlled. And when you think about the
control and when you're voting, think about this, it's money.
What are they really what what does it really come
down to, and what is going to benefit you your family?
You know, somebody who's living with some kind of condition
(43:15):
that they're just trying to navigate the world in this
body that just isn't one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Right, Yeah, I mean, and you're talking about money, I'm
going to talk about it in another way. Us going
to Honeyway Falls and Spencerport. I have a shirt on
that says forty percent today. Yeah, forty percent of the
taxes we bring in stay in the community where our
store is shut up. Yeah, So thirteen percent is the
tax forty percent of that thirteen percent stays here in Henrietta.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Why is this not talked about? Or maybe it is
and I'm just not paying attention, is it?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
But not to the point like they'll separate it. This
goes here, this here, this goes here. Well, look it
turns out it's forty percent.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
My favorite argument always is tax st dollars paid for that.
And I'll go, I don't know what my tax dollars
paid for. I mean, I got out rage, but what percentage?
I have no fucking idea. And by the way, I
can never not pay them, so right, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I get that tax seasons right now. We just got
our bill.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
In the moon. Yeah right, so exactly.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, and so you and eventually those monies that we're
bringing into the towns and the villages are going to
bring your taxes down, right, I mean, Henrietta, Well, I
can't remember the exact amount we brought in last year.
I want to say, it's like forty four thousand something
like that. I think quote me on that, but yeah,
(44:37):
I mean, and they saw their taxes didn't go up
quite as much this year. They're projecting in like the
next full five year expansion from when we started here
five years. Taxes are going to be going down because
of the cannabis in the communities.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
And don't tell me that people. Everybody isn't gonna want that.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Right, Like these towns that opted out. I don't understand
why the supervisors and the town boards don't want to
opt in, because it's money for their schools, for your town,
for the roads, anything your school your town needs.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Well, look because it's a vice, right, And some people go, well,
I don't want advice, pay it for whatever at the school.
New York State lottery.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, gambling and gambling.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Gambling to a certain degree. Right, and by the way,
all the gambling that goes on on sports now, right
with the legalized betting. Right, did you bet? You seem
like you bet? You made a face like you did.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I mean, we have a fantasy here, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I bet sometimes.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Isn't it fun?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
It's a lot of fun. First time I've done all
those all those taxes, like all that tax to I
think New York State, like it was a little bit later.
They did it because Jersey did it. People were crossing.
You know, everything is run by New York City and
New York State, so many people were crossing over to
go to New Jersey to bet and do these things.
New York's like, well fuck this, and so I think
(45:59):
they surpass them as a state, they're bigger, but it
blew them away in terms of what the tax revenue was.
So all these things just benefit you no matter what.
And you're not putting the genie back of the bottle. No. No,
Next is sex workers, but we don't need to talk
about that in this podcast. Why not.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Next, we need psilocybins legal.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Okay, all right, like that.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know psilocybins. A lot of people don't know terms strooms. Yeah, yeah,
I mean it's starting to go legal for medicinal purpose
purposes slowly, yes, very very slow, because it does have
a few microdos, does have a lot of a lot
of benefits for people when their ological issues.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
There you go, right, and they do it. It's already
in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah yeah, and I think I heard Cali's getting ready
to pass it too. Well, there you go, So that's
only going to be a matter of time, right, And
then again, it's another plant grown in the earth.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, how dare you? People?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Better nature?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
So it feels better I think that I think the
Native Americans knew all this stuff and we came in
and fucked it all up somehow, someway or another. But yeah,
that's right. We're figuring it out. We are figuring it out. Well.
Thank you very much, both of you for your time
and uh for MJ. Dispensary for allowing us to be
out here, for Michelle.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I'm gonna blank on her name.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Are that's all right?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
My name is Grace. I shouldn't know.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I like to call her Gracelynn. Nolan's not her middle name.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
It's not her middle name. No, No, it's a very
like it does. It rolls off the tongue, and I
would say, almost like the Irish Catholic family names were
like Grace Lynn. Yeah, yeah, yep, I got it. I'm
Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.
On location. I'm driven by or Dots G. Brown. It's
Billified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thanks
for getting your pot on or should I say your
(00:26):
pot on today because we were at MJ Dispensary where
we just recorded the third podcast, right.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Michelle is all excited. They've got their big hollowed events
on October twenty fifth.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, twelve to five. It's a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Come on, yeah, man, have fun, put on a costume,
be something, costume contest, just say costume contest, Pumpkin carving contest.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Carving contest, other games and prizes. We have our big Wheel.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Just a couple of things about MG, real quick expansion
is happening. Yes, this is to me amazing and there's
gonna be one I'm going to say on the far
west side and the far east side of Monroe County. Correct,
honeyways still in Monroe County, right.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I believe follows is still Monroe County.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Which is perfect because you're right out in that, you know, Pittsford,
Fairport to get all those Yes, that's fantastic, and these
are going to open in the next couple of months.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yep, I would say within the next two to three
months is what we're shooting for. I mean, right, can
be bumps in the road, you never know, but that's
our goal, right, Okay, Yeah, it's going to be phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It is. It's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm doing a lot of hiring right now. Intent anybody
got a resume and three references.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Drop them off, right, And who's sitting with you today.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
This is Grace. She's one of our lead bud tenders.
She's phenomenal. She she's also is now we declared her
our lead trainer, real training people. She's been very good.
We brought on a couple of new employees.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, and she's got to train them all.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
She's taken the rain.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, uh, phenomenal. What what's your I'm going to ask you,
like what's your weed journey? But like what is that?
Because well, you know, you come here and you've got
to if you're it's really about education, right, I mean,
there's so many different strains. The's somebody I used to
joke like you need a restrictor plate on weed nowadays
because you know, you get the wrong thing and it's like, hey,
(02:23):
i'll see you, I'll see you in the spring. You
know what I mean, right in three days, and I
just think that it. I think it's amazing what has
happened in New York State. I wish it would go
at the federal level. And we seem to be a
little silly with this stuff. Maybe the things should have
been reversed. Maybe there there should have been more regulations
on alcohol and not so much and weed. But whatever
(02:45):
that aside kind of you know, where did you get
your education and interest? Was it the hallways of your
high school?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And then I don't know, I think after college ye
just kind of like helped me a lot, you know,
in terms of getting into like adulthood over anxiety and yeah,
I don't know, I think it helped me a lot.
And then I started learning more and more like through
my partner, and started like growing some plants, okay, started
(03:23):
watching some fun videos about all the processes of creating
the oils and you know, crying the flower and such, and.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Where did you go to college? And what? Four?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I went to college the College of Saint Rose.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, which I think is no longer right, no longer.
That's just sad. It's kind of sad because that was
a really I assume music niche were.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, I went from music industry and they were really
niche with a few different things like music industry, not
many places. What else was there?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I remember a friend of mine when I graduated, and
I'm bazillion years older than you, wanted to go to
Saint Rose and I think in but there was some
financial restraints on it. And what was like that was
considered one of the best in the area now by Albany. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
So you went for music, music and business, music and business. Sure, No,
(04:17):
that's great, that's like see you again. Smart. So here
we go here, that's smart, that's like thinking ahead here. No,
I gotta have some knowledge. I don't want to get
screwed on the contract kind of thing. That's the kind
of thinking that's going on in that.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And so from how did you end up with MJ
and the love of Weed? And I say love of it?
And I know it sounds bad maybe the way I'm
phrasing it, But what I mean is the knowledge, Right
you like helping people?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean I just also love to learn as well.
So I mean I went from bartending to this, which
I think was a very easy maneuver.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Sure, I think I called those transferable skills, right yeah,
a way to talk to people, right yeah, looking for
an escape, that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yep. But then I don't know. I think I just
love to learn, and so this provide me with an
opportunity to, like I already knew a lot, sure, learn
even more. And I just love the fact of like
helping people out and getting them to be a little
bit more knowledgeable themselves.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And right att Yeah, and then all the training stuff.
So what goes on in it in like training like.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Our buttender training on Wednesday, so the vendor will come in,
they give us their speel on the company, how the
company came about, and then whatever products they have they
teach us, whether if it's a vape or concentrate gummies,
how those are made. In the process of making those,
they'll bring in like products for us, Like if it's flour,
(05:47):
they bring in the flower, We sniff it, we can
feel it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Really Oh yeah, wow, this is.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, it's like a good forty five minutes to an
hour training. They bring us breakfast too, so it's like
in samples they bring us. You know, it's nice.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's well, it's the way you it should be done.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Oh yeah, and it's the respect I mean, especially for
the new people coming in who don't know the products
we have on the shelves, right.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I think it's really important to to like meet the
people behind the brand as well.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, so you can know their story. Yeah, that's true
because it's their journeys. Yeah, it's such a thing. Like
doctor Dankenstein was one of my favorite people. Yes, he's amazing.
He's like just a big lovable bear.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He is he is, He's cool, he's cool ash too.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well. I think it's it's it's fantastic. I love the
fact that there's the expansion and stuff, but I always worry, like, uh,
maybe it's more the edibles. You know. I grew up
down by Woodstock, so weed was always around. Uh not
my not my house. My parents were not into that
at all, but my friend's parents were. Like I got
(07:01):
high with a friend's mom. We did this. People would
make pop brownies, you know, and so the edibles. And
I had a teacher in high school who would say
to me all the time, if you're going to smoke it,
smoke it through a bong because the heat on a
joint can melt the soldering on a roach. Cliff smoke
it through a water bond, and that's what he would
say to me. I don't know if this is true
(07:22):
or I'm just telling you what he said, And this
is nineteen eighties, eighty five, eighty seven somewhere in there.
And then he would say the best way to consume
it is to eat it, because you know, you don't
want that heat in your lungs. You don't want that,
so you would eat it. But the problem with eating
it when it was made in brownie for stuff is
you Yeah, but it was never evenly distributed. Somebody who
(07:45):
eat at one end of the brownie pan was fucked
up for days, and the other person's like, hey, man,
I don't think anything happened, right, right, So that was
always it. And then the uh I find though with
sometimes with the gummies if I don't know what I'm doing.
I had a whole incident one summer where a friend
of mine gave me a gummy. Yeah, we're down on
(08:06):
uh Cuca Lake, and then we're at his house and
we're drinking, of course, and then then yeah, then he
throws me a gummy. UH swears it's five milligram. Nobody
believes us, We get we get on the boat. We
go to another house, big party, everything hanging out, and
(08:27):
all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm gonna get sick.
So I run into the bathroom and then I Michelle,
I had to crawl out. I crawl into the bed,
the perfectly made bed, and I just crawl up and
like I had to pass out for a while. But
not only is it not I didn't even know the
(08:49):
people's eyes, did not even know the people's whose house
it was. I see them all the time now and
I'm always like, oh my god, I want to die.
But it's like this big, beautiful home right on Cuca Lake,
and you know there's all these people hanging out and
park in their boats, and you know they're drinking and
having a good time. And I am like gone, and
I go that's the bad part. And I think that
(09:11):
sometimes turns people away from what is a healthy alternative.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh yeah, that's why the legal markets the best, because
you know how much you're eating and know how much
you're getting, you know what's in it that you're consuming. Also,
I mean I remember those days making brownies, making gummies.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And how do you make gummies?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh it's so easy, is it really?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh yeah, wait, you know how to make gummies too,
I've seen it. Guess I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I've done it. You see, I prefer making oils instead
of butter. Can of oil and once there, what.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Do you do? Like cook things in it? Like instead
of like olive oil, you're throwing a panty. You throw your.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
In the thc well oil. But like my best friend
and I, we always wanted the cheat way of making
gummies because it tastes so long. You gotta do the gelatin,
you gotta do this that. So we would buy Swedish
fish and gummy bears and we melted them and then
just in a pot we would infuse the oil with
(10:15):
it and it made the like fruit roll ups.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Okay, oh yeah it was great. I love sweetish fish.
Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Mean it was more expensive to make that way, but
it was so easy to make and they were very tasty.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah okay, Now you had to have an experience on
one of these, like the sweetish fish. Did you ever
get so high on sweetis fish? Like your No? No,
nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
No, I'm eaten. So in the gray market, there used
to be candy bars that were going around. They looked
like twigs reasy peanut buttercups. They stated they were a
thousand milligrams, which I'm thinking they were probably two three
maybe in all reality, I ate both that equivaled a
thousand milligrams, and I really yeah, I felt like I
(11:06):
was floating on a cloud. But it's not like I
was like, but it was. It was a fun experience.
I'm laying in bed like, huh, yeah, I love this.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I'm a cloud, right, I mean, here, here's the thing.
So many people have a problem with sleep, right, There's
so many people who are sleep deprived and sleep deprivation,
and there's a number of studies that would compare sleep
deprivation to drinking alcohol and you're deprived and you get
behind the wheel of a car and I'm definitely sleep deprived.
(11:38):
I mean I for years and years and years, right,
So I think that sometimes if you can have something
and everybody will try melatonin doesn't work for me, they'll
try something else, but then they'll try like a zequill
for that isn't exactly medicine, but that's what it is.
It's something. Yeah, And so when you come to MJ there,
(11:59):
I would assume there's I'll ask the tram. Yeah, I
would say, right, do you use anything to help you sleep?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Honestly, I just smoked before, but typically, oh really, so
I don't do like gummies or anything to help me sleep.
I just usually smoke a good joint of indoca and
yeah and I'm out. I don't have sleep problems, so
like I I fall asleep pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, I could sleep for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Now we have kids, so we're definitely sleep deprived.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'm sleep deprived and I got a kid. Yeah, Like
it drives you crazy. What's going on drives me absolutely
bat When.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I get it. I get it. Teenagers they're not They're fun,
but they're not easy.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
No, and look at it's part of growing up and
neither nor way right.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean, I was a perfect little angel, honestly, honestly,
I was like no one knew like that I was
a pothead or I drank. Everyone thought I was the
goody goodie jeez.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Not only did they know that I drank, the cops
showed up in my house when there was a party
that I wasn't act that property got destroyed, and they
wanted me to squeal on my buddies because they knew.
I knew everybody was that was there. Oh my god,
true story, true story I had. I got voted most
likely to still be looking for a party ten years
later in my yearbook.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I would walk around with my dad was so mad.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I would walk around with a sports bottle in school
with a screwdriver in it shut. Oh yeah, no one
knew they thought it.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
We really can't smell vodka? Yeah, orange juice. Hey, I
like the way you think.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And you know, I got people coming in that I
graduated with, and they'll see me. They're like what I'm like,
I swear I'm still a good girl, but I'm like, yeah,
I was a closet stoner. Yeah everybody. Yeah, I think
dad's out of the bag.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah. I would assume did you do more arts in
high school?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Oh for sure?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah? So was that not very pop to learn the arts?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
No, I would say it's still very popular. Say everyone
my senior year of high school, like bonded over smoking.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Where can I ask where you went?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I hope not to like throw people into the bus,
but around quite high school?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh god, yeah, I'm well, I'm sure, yes, Like it's
out there you're not going to put this genie back
in a bottle. And now that it's legal, at least
you know what you're getting. Oh, you're not getting some
strain that or god forbid laced, right.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
We hear that kind of fun back in the day.
But I definitely think it's nice to know exactly what
you're smoking.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Able to see it.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Like the testing I think is just like huge because yeah,
especially like the lacing and stuff, like you can see
everything on everything. There's the CoA that you can scan
and know exactly what you're getting. Go down into the terpeens,
figure out what works best for you and what like
you prefer the most.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Or Yeah, tell me about like your family and stuff.
Growing up. Were they open to the idea of marijuana?
Not open? Like my parents were not open. No, and
they were teachers, And my mother has gotten a little
bit cooler. And then one year Maine, well I don't
(15:25):
know if main I don't know what the legal status
of marijuana isn't me. My brother lives in Kennybunk and
my mother went up there because he has younger kids
than I do, and she used to come up when
my boys were growing up to do Halloween with the
boys and go around trick or treating. I get a
call from my brother and I'm at a costume party.
He goes, dude, Mom, just like they kept teasing her
(15:47):
about taking a gummy, and she popped the gummy and
I Michelle, I don't know if it was a twenty
five milligram or whatever. So he puts her on the phone.
She's laughing as she was Yeah. And so then then
my dad, who died in July, kept calling me, going,
I went down. He lived in Jersey, and Jersey I
(16:08):
think has legal marijuana. He went to the dispensary. He goes,
I bought a gummy. I'm afraid to try. I'm afraid
to So I don't know if he ever did or didn't,
But then we're thinking he did once because he like
passed out for like a day on the couch, like
I think, so oh, so these people who were so
I don't I guess up type. My dad used to brag, Yeah,
(16:29):
you know where I was going when I was in Woodstock.
I was going the when Woodstock happened. I was going
the opposite way, on a through way to a wedding.
I was in a three piece suit like he said,
I like a some square, which I find okay, that's fine,
But then I find out years later I think my
uncle was growing it once in a while, and so
I'm like, but they they claim they never did it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I believe that my dad never.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
But they were of that generation. Like graduating college in
the summer of love right in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Nine is like finding out later down the line.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Oh yeah, well it is later down the line. And
we've done such a great job of scaring the shit
out of people and making this the evil drug that
you you should never do. I mean, I you know, look.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
The devil the nineties commercials or early two thousands commercial
braining into the couch. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's wild or
it's still wild to like watch them.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah yeah, I forgot. I was I was almost too
old for those, but you would see them on MTV
and stuff sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. So they did a great
job of working against it. And I always say, like,
and people think I'm a little crazy. I go, in
my lifetime, all the technology that we have, we're now
sitting in your lobby recording a podcast, right, basically a
(17:50):
radio station without a tower. That's what we are. And
you can do all this because of technology. We have iPads,
we have this, you can find out any information. No
reason to be stupid anymore because it's all right here.
And I still will say. One of the biggest things
in my life is the one eighty on marijuana. Right.
I know Michelle has heard the story a million times.
(18:11):
Fourth grade, I had a drug counselor come into my
classroom and burn weed in like like a strainer, like
one of these screens, and he just said, if you
ever smell this, you come find an adult.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh no, come find it.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'm starting now, I'm starting to think like if you come,
if you smell this, you will find it at the time.
But the strangest thing, so that's your fourth grade education.
You were scared. If you ever smell this, you're in
big trouble. You better get in here. You know, you're
talking to nine year olds. That's an early indoctrination of
what weed is or is not. And so as I
(18:54):
see this one eighty, I really think that's one of
the biggest things that I've seen in my life.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh yeah, Like I witnessed it through my son, like
they still when he was he's a senior. Now when
he was in elementary school. They pushed wheat is bad,
Wheat is bad. Weat is bad. Yeah, my son knew
from an early age. Mom's a consumer. Basically, I started
it again right for health reasons, so he would come
home Mom. They're saying it's bad, but you say it
(19:19):
helps you. I'm like, I had explained the stigma. I'm like, look,
it's good for you for health reasons. I'm like, if
you want to go out and enjoy yourself when you're older, yes,
but you have to consume responsibly once you get older.
I'll explain it more detail.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You're starting to see this with alcohol a little bit now.
You had it when I was a kid, right, I'm
fifty four, so eighty five or something. I think that's
around the time or maybe the early eighties. Mad started
mothers against drunk having and so that was like a
really I think the government started to fund these things
and rightfully so. But now, and I was saying this
(19:58):
to you on your podcast store pot cast. Excuse me,
get it right, Get it right. That alcohol. You're starting
to hear like, no consumption is ever good for you scientifically.
Right now, I will tell you I love to drink.
Alcohol was glorified in my household grown up. My dad,
who wouldn't touch weed, was you know, mister doctor in
(20:22):
philosophy and educator and all this love to get hammered,
I mean just loved it right. Used to buy what
was called the cocktails for two. You could buy these
pre made. They were called cocktails for two, so old
that the thing was had a styrofoam label on it,
and I used to try to peel it off without
preconnet as a kid. Yeah, well I'm a little older
(20:43):
than you much and the so in the big fight
in the house was my mother screaming, he.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Buys cocktails for two, but they're really for one.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Could drink it all right, So but it was always glorified.
This is what dad did to relax when Mom wasn't home,
and he would make a big dinner, have the house
sparkling clean before she came home. He'd be helping us
with homework, but you would notice his tolerance would drop.
And it wasn't just orae juice. He was drinking and
then even start singing to me as we're doing the homework,
(21:15):
and I couldn't figure out you are so stupid that
I am so smart. True true, you wonder why I'm
fucked up, I hear you. But the point being that
now we're starting to get that education the other way
on alcohol. Oh yeah, And I would love to know
what's being said about marijuana. And I don't know in
(21:36):
schools are they starting to say there's medicinal benefits to it?
I mean, look, I had that one cool teacher, right, cor.
I mean, I think if any teacher was told her
that he was telling us that, they probably would have
been fired. Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Sure they don't talk about it. I mean, like I said,
my son is a senior now, but they don't talk
about it. And like the health classes at all in
the Ice school, he said, interesting, which I I think
personally they shouldn't talk about it. I think that should
be a parent's responsibility. Nice to educate your children right
on marijuana legal and illegal, right, I mean, and the
(22:17):
alcohol too. I mean, I get it. I grew up
in the family Lake yours. My dad was a car
salesman my whole life. Come home, crack open a beer,
sure weekends, he'd have his dry Southern comfort Manhattan with
a twist. Yeah. After he passed away, my brother and
I took my mom out to eat and we tried
one in memory of my dad. That thing was so
fucking discussied fuel that I was like, that's like.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You know those cars that blow out fire to go
down to the dragway. It's putting thee.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I mean, I grew up where Okay, I'm in fifth
grade here, Michell'll have a beer. Yeah, okay, it was okay, yeah.
I mean, and I'm not far off from your age.
I grew up in the eighties. We're in the seventies.
I mean so yeah, I mean part family parties. Me
and my cousins would be running around with half drink
beers that our dads would give us.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I mean that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So what's the difference of I grew up with alcohol
prominent or if my son grows up with marijuana prominent.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, I think the difference is what's the difference. I
do think there's a difference. I think that alcohol is. Yeah.
I don't think there's ever any I was never told
drink responsibly. No, No, you had a Frank a newer
podcast which will be come now talk about consumption right
(23:37):
but proper. I don't know if I'm using the right term,
but appropriate consumption. We'll say and to me that that
is what it's about, because there's so many things. You know,
we talk about just the sleep, talk about people with
and I'm going to say this wrong, but I hear
a lot of people talk about fibromyalgia.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I have fibromiologia.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Oh well, look at me, just step into that that one.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Cannabis is a miracle drug.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, I was on three different prescriptions, and you and
I have talked about how my doctor took me off
all my mads. I feel most my pain in my back,
my feet, in my hands. I will do either smoke
a little bit when I first wake up, so when
I get to work, I'm not stupid high. But it
really is my pain.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Know what it takes to relieve the pain. So it
would be like taking a time on all or Yeah, for.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
An average person would be like ibuprofen. But sometimes the
pain gets so bad an average person would want a narcotic.
That's how bad my pain can get. In my hands, well,
I mean yeah, a lot of times I'm walking around here,
I'm like, can you open this? My hands aren't working
today because fibromagia, it like it mirrors, Like if I'm
having an issue on the left side, the right side
(24:50):
will be exactly the same, hands, knees, feet, head.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
What is that fibromyalgia?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It is like it's an inflammation of your nerves. Okay,
it's There's still controversy over the exact disease because people
say doctors made it up because they couldn't find a
diagnosis for people who had these pains. They thought it
was in their head. I mean, it's very similar to rheumatoia.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
So many people were not we just gave it exactly.
It was like everybody basically that's basically.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
What the medical community was.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You're crazy, but we're going to give it to you.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, we're gonna okay, we're going to make up this.
And other people, like in the insurance industries and other practices,
they're like, no, this is not a real disease.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You need to die right.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
It is, and it's very common in females and it's
more common in males. Little do people know, and the
medications do not help men. I have seen three people.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Man, Okay, wait, when you say don't help men, the
first thing I think it is and I'm not trying
to be craph but some kind of sexual problem.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, no, not that way. No, No, it does not
cause okayand I mean there's stuff to counter that.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh yeah, but like your gummy.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
In Actually we do have right marijuana for everything I
told you, Yes, But like the medications don't help with
the inflammation and the pain for some reason with men.
I honestly don't know the scientific backing behind it. I
don't know if it has something to do with testosterone
(26:37):
or women's with their hormone levels. But I know three
individuals men fybromelgia. None of the pills ever helped. Marijuana helps.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah. Yeah, you just kind of keep it at a
even keel and it gets rid of it. I would
correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't. I haven't watched
the news a whole lot yether do I I find
it very depressing, and I think that for your mental
health sometimes you need to honestly stay away from him. Yeah,
but I thought I just heard something where President Trump
stood up and talked about how bad Thailand all is.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Now, I don't know if I did that, but I
can agree.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I think that he Okay, Now, I'm glad I brought
this up. Because and I am because you were a nurse.
Uh he talked about like I think, and then you
gotta be careful with some of this stuff. Oh yeah,
you know he likes to shoot from the hip, which
can be someone if you're not too affected by it,
you can look at what the fuck? But the I
(27:33):
think he was saying something about autism rates and then
he goes, it's just bad for you. It's just bad
for you. Don't take it's just bad for you. Now
we've had it for so long and and and everybody,
I would think majority of people at some point, I
think even doctors have said, if your kid has a
fever or something, alternate tiland all advil, right, and I
think I did tailand all sinus. You can wild side
(27:55):
his headaches at time, so like just wild I don't
know what would you?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So I don't know about the whole I've been out
of the healthcare field since all these studies with the
autism and that comes out. Don't the one thing I
do know, and I have seen the proof for this,
Talano can kill your liver, especially if you do take
it on a regular basis. Now me, I take it
here and there, not often. If I have a headache,
which isn't that often, but if you're taking it like
(28:25):
there was. At one point I was having medical issues
about ten fifteen years ago. I was taking five advil
four times a day, per my doctor. Advil doesn't work
on me anymore. Because of that, I built up a
tolerance where any ibuprofen does not help. So yeah, I
(28:46):
mean then they ruin your liver. I mean I know
some people who go in for liver tests because they
were chronic tnnel users.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Wow. Yeah, And so you can definitely have something at
mj oh that you can get, right, lots of stuff
for clean as well. Yeah, a lot of things for.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Pain, headaches, everything. CB.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
What would you say to somebody because you know it's
another one CBC. Okay, So if I came in here
and I said, I get migraines, right, what would you recommend?
Because I have a friend that tries acupuncture for this
stuff and it seems to work a little bit or temporary.
And I keep saying, go to AMNJ. I do I
(29:27):
just go to am J. They'll help you find They're
so smart, they're so nice. You know, you don't have
to worry. I think there's still that stigma, because boy
did they do it, as we've said, a great job
of painting it with a broad brush. That's not appropriate.
Not true, right, right, not true.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I'll have Grace answer this one.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, I would say, just like we've been talking about,
like the two biggest things that I get are either
pain or for sleep, for like headaches. Honestly, there's a
company called the Green Lady, and they label it the Painkiller.
That's like the name of the product. And yeah, it
has CBC and CBG in it, and yeah, people love
(30:10):
that one.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, like CBC.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's also just.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
A very good.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I love that formula.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Just it's like it's happiness to me. Oh yeah really
And CBC has been as they say, I mean, it's
been shown to help headaches.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Okay, so yeah, well there you go. That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I mean that with the combination of the THC and
the CBG, I mean, tax inflammation helps your pain. You're
feeling uplifted.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Here's a somewhat of a I guess an offbeat question.
But my sister has lime disease, has had lime disease
since eighteen years old, badly to the point where she
couldn't walk and stuff and thinks that she's had like
just recently was in Iceland for a vacation. This summer.
(31:05):
They go on these great vacations. They won't take their well,
they won't take their kids to Disney, and one kid
was complaining, we always go to a beach, so instead
of Disney, they do these trips. Gets about the equivalent,
and so they went to Iceland, then they went to Denmark,
and then they went to Croatia and the beaches in
Croatia for over two weeks. While in Iceland, they're taking
(31:25):
a snowmobile trip up a glacier and my niece shifts
the wrong way on the back of my sister's snowmobile
and it rolls over and my sister wound up trying
to lift it off, worrying that it was gonna be
on the kid. As a result, has four months now
walked around and it is going to have I think
surgery today on her thumb because she tore the ligament
(31:48):
and it wrapped around the muscle, and then she tore
a rotator cuff in the other shoulder. And she's saying
that there was like she just thinks and she worries
about herself. She goes I don't know that's wrong with me.
Like one of the kids was born at home because
she didn't realize she was in labor, and she goes,
I wonder if I just don't feel good so often
(32:09):
that I just figure that's part of it, right, Okay,
And there's other things in her health too that have happened,
and she's gone to all kinds of alternative doctors, but
no insurance covers it. So you're paying sometimes up to
thirty grand out a pocket. Right. Do you see in
the future doctors that will be recommending more marijuana types stuff?
(32:34):
Do you understand what I'm saying, but that would be
uncovered by insurance and can actually benefit and help people.
I don't know. I know it's a little bit of
a deep question, but it's a yeah. I mean, I
think having been in the healthcare you know, you're certainly
in the business you maybe you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I mean, I feel if they declassified it and bring it,
you know, legal onto the federal level, why can't insurance
companies cover it for people? Do copays?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I mean, right now, even for medicinal you have to
pay cash for the doctor visit, right, because of what
you're going for insurance won't cover it because.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It's a federal yet.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, because you're going for cannabis, right, so that's in
your chart, insurance won't pay for it. So right there,
you're paying a couple one hundred and fifty two hundred
dollars for the doctor visit. Yeah, then you got to
pay one hundred dollars for the card, the actual medicinal
marijuana card. So you're in what two fifty, three.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Hundred, fifty or three hundred.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Then by the time you can only use it in medicinal.
Now they do, I've heard word of mouth they do
give you discounts and stuff. They can do that legally
in medicinal. But still, I mean, it's it's it's outrageous
the price. Yeah, that that is like just come to
recreational and pay thirty forty fifty bucks for your.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Eighth Yeah, that's exactly. But get here and I'm sorry, yeah,
but you guys are like doctors. I don't and I'm
the I use that loosely because I certainly don't want
to get but you know, you have enough knowledge that
you can help somebody who's in pain, and I just
wonder I'll ask you how many people have come back
(34:09):
and go, oh my god, thank.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You, Oh God.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Definitely, it happens often.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
People definitely find what works for them, and you have
to like and they stick to it because.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Sure, we find what works. Like and when we say
find what works, you're doing the same thing. Let's say
you have fibromialgia and you're a guy and nothing has worked.
How many different have you tried? Oh yeah, right, okay, pill.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I went through a lot of different medication.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yes, right. So that's what I'm saying, is that, But
but you'll have people here who guide you, will remember
you right you come back, They're going to remember you.
They're going to say, hey, how did that work for you? You know,
or you remind them of whatever it is. But I
just think that there were heading in a great direction,
like I do, and I think that that's a good thing.
(34:56):
Has your family, who did you say was not very
Are they a little more now? Have they tried some
of the stuff?
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I mean? I think I talk My mom is also
like a nurse, and we talk a lot about it,
and like she's definitely like open to me, like discussing
like everything that I do. I'm still trying to get
my dad to it because you know, he has so
much pain. Like he is, he's older, and all he
(35:24):
talks about is like saving his liver.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I'm like, how old is your dad? Can I
answer seventy is older? Okay, But if she said it,
I absolutely believe that. But your mom, as someone in
the medical field, does she see the benefits of it?
(35:48):
Sometimes has she tried anything?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I think she is, like, yes, opening up to like all.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Over, like the benefits because it's almost like you can't
ignore it anymore, you know. And I think that's wonderful.
And I think, like you, being a person, you could change,
you might be able to help change the medical field
a little bit. No nurse comes in and goes, hey,
I got to tell you.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
You know, yeah, I mean we have doctors at the
VA that recommend patients here. Sure so, And I'm loving
it because, like you said, will doctors ever talk about this? Yeah,
they're doing it now.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Good good. I just well they did, Like if you
had somebody on who's taking cancer drugs and they need you.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, wait, it's more prominent now, yes, for doctors to
talk about I just wish, like you said, it would
be great for it to go federally legal, so insurance
can pay for this for people who really, really truly
need it from medicinal I.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Keep hearing rumblings that Trump was going to push through
at the federal level. I don't know how much blockage
there is because here's the thing. What you know, it
always comes down to money, is it not. Oh yeah,
big pharma, big money. Oh yeah, money. So people would
be out.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's the thing to a lot of people don't want
it to end up in the federal level because then
you'll be able to go to Walgreens or something to
buy it because there's pharmacists.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Okay, great, but you know what, they're not going to
spend the time to talk to you and do the
right thing. I understand, yeah, but they're not. I would
always want to come to a dispensary where that's all
they do. You know, I don't need the guy A
Bob from Bikes can come up. Bill's got a question
about weed? You know what I'm saying, because that's what
the fuck they're gonna do. Hey, I know Bob gets
(37:28):
high in the back there a couple of times, you
know what I mean? Like that, I don't need that.
Come to MJ where aesome, you know. But that's that's
how it works.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Bob's busy. But we got a bill here from hardware.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, you're looking for nuts and bolts. Oh, you're looking
to get MutS. You know. It's like that bothers me
because it is simplifying something that isn't you know, And
I'm not again, I understand maybe you could get it pharmacies.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I know CBD you ken now you can. Yeah, I've
seen it at Walgreens right near my house. Oh yeah, okay,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, but wouldn't you want to talk to somebody. They're
not going to be I guarantee they're not gonna be
able to do. Yeah, you come in here, She'll be
able to walk you right through. You'll be able to
walk them right through to whatever. And if the other
employees can't, you can always blame her because she's the trainer. Right,
I got there.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
There I go.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, it's a lot of pressure. No, it's not. That's
that's Yeah. I think that the way this is all
going is great. I love hearing about the expansion of
MJ Dispensary. I love that we're sitting in the lobby.
I always wanted to do it out here with you.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I know you did, Yeah, and we made it happen today.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, I want to come, like I think the monthly
stuff when we do the one in October, Yeah, October
twenty fifth at the Hallowed party. Can we do it
in the lobby?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, we can do it in here.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Is it bad for you to pull away from the tent,
it's not.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
The Only thing is sometimes the lobby here can get
full because it's so crowded in there. We can't fire
your code. We can only let so many people back
onto the sales floor, so sometimes there's overflow of people
waiting here.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm just saying, like out there, sometimes the Wi fi
doesn't right well, And yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
We could definitely do it in here because people want
to see you guys. Oh yeah they do.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Well, No, how do you know? Maybe they do? You know,
some guy with a thick Italian accent called up looking for.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I wonder why I'm getting stocked by people.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
That's fantastic. Well, I'm really really thankful, and well I
will wrap it up here that you agreed to do
this today. You're helping me out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Hey, you helped me out. I didn't have to travel
to Fairport today, So.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
No, and I know I think that's uh yeah, Fairport
is so far. Here's the thing, like, I love Fairport
and I lived I lived in Pittsford with my when
my guys were little, and I love Fairport more. It's
just it's it's that oh yeah, it's got that village feel, right.
So I grew up down by Rhinebeck, New York, which
(40:11):
was a village. My mom lives there now. It's familiar.
But there's no easy way to get to Fairport.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
They're just is not an easy way. It's not right
off four ninety.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
No, it's not fucking lying to me to do that loud,
you know, And I need something you need to come back.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Do you have anything that that would be like a
not a zolof a what what would be like an antidepressant?
People going like yeah, yeah, yeah or something like that.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
We have stuff that all work similar to.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, just enough to level the Out's a.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Whole gross of them.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Well you'll find it all here. MJ Dispensary, Jefferson Road
and Henrietta soon to be in spencer Port are you
gonna have to train the spencer Port employees.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Are you are you going to be in charge of
MJ Dispenser MJ's training program.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Well, I mean now that's hopefully where we'll be heading
because everybody will train in the store. This is going
to be the main hub. Okay, train everybody, then put
them into their stores.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
So yeah, I think that I like it. So this
is like where so if you're in this area, this
is where you need to come. But then the Honeyoy store.
Honeyoy Falls another quaint little village, right uh, and then spencer.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Port another quaint little village.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It is another quaint little village. Now that I think
about it, Now we need to.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Go to Fairport.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I guess yes, yes, yes, Well they're starting now too.
I think to even put some of the drinks, but
I think they have to be like hemp drived three
per what do you know about that? No, but the drinks,
I think, like bars are starting to sell them, but
(42:07):
they're really low percentage. Not people are like, why would
I even drink this?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, it's like zero point zero three percent something like that.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And they're why is that?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
So you get the benefits of the hemp other than
the just THHC like hemp, like Christian was saying, is
similar to that CBD that gives you the relaxation, and
hemp does that also.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Okay, So, and I.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Think bars in stores that can legally sell those are thinking,
oh it says THHC on it marketing, I'll be able
to sell these. But even though they're not really one
hundred percent got it?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a whole changing world, but very controlled. Right,
It's still very controlled. And when you think about the
control and when you're voting, think about this, it's money.
What are they really what what does it really come
down to, and what is going to benefit you your family?
You know, somebody who's living with some kind of condition
(43:15):
that they're just trying to navigate the world in this
body that just isn't one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Right, Yeah, I mean, and you're talking about money, I'm
going to talk about it in another way. Us going
to Honeyway Falls and Spencerport. I have a shirt on
that says forty percent today. Yeah, forty percent of the
taxes we bring in stay in the community where our
store is shut up. Yeah, So thirteen percent is the
tax forty percent of that thirteen percent stays here in Henrietta.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Why is this not talked about? Or maybe it is
and I'm just not paying attention, is it?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
But not to the point like they'll separate it. This
goes here, this here, this goes here. Well, look it
turns out it's forty percent.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
My favorite argument always is tax st dollars paid for that.
And I'll go, I don't know what my tax dollars
paid for. I mean, I got out rage, but what percentage?
I have no fucking idea. And by the way, I
can never not pay them, so right, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I get that tax seasons right now. We just got
our bill.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
In the moon. Yeah right, so exactly.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, and so you and eventually those monies that we're
bringing into the towns and the villages are going to
bring your taxes down, right, I mean, Henrietta, Well, I
can't remember the exact amount we brought in last year.
I want to say, it's like forty four thousand something
like that. I think quote me on that, but yeah,
(44:37):
I mean, and they saw their taxes didn't go up
quite as much this year. They're projecting in like the
next full five year expansion from when we started here
five years. Taxes are going to be going down because
of the cannabis in the communities.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
And don't tell me that people. Everybody isn't gonna want that.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Right, Like these towns that opted out. I don't understand
why the supervisors and the town boards don't want to
opt in, because it's money for their schools, for your town,
for the roads, anything your school your town needs.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Well, look because it's a vice, right, And some people go, well,
I don't want advice, pay it for whatever at the school.
New York State lottery.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, gambling and gambling.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Gambling to a certain degree. Right, and by the way,
all the gambling that goes on on sports now, right
with the legalized betting. Right, did you bet? You seem
like you bet? You made a face like you did.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I mean, we have a fantasy here, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I bet sometimes.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Isn't it fun?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
It's a lot of fun. First time I've done all
those all those taxes, like all that tax to I
think New York State, like it was a little bit later.
They did it because Jersey did it. People were crossing.
You know, everything is run by New York City and
New York State, so many people were crossing over to
go to New Jersey to bet and do these things.
New York's like, well fuck this, and so I think
(45:59):
they surpass them as a state, they're bigger, but it
blew them away in terms of what the tax revenue was.
So all these things just benefit you no matter what.
And you're not putting the genie back of the bottle. No. No,
Next is sex workers, but we don't need to talk
about that in this podcast. Why not.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Next, we need psilocybins legal.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Okay, all right, like that.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know psilocybins. A lot of people don't know terms strooms. Yeah, yeah,
I mean it's starting to go legal for medicinal purpose
purposes slowly, yes, very very slow, because it does have
a few microdos, does have a lot of a lot
of benefits for people when their ological issues.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
There you go, right, and they do it. It's already
in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah yeah, and I think I heard Cali's getting ready
to pass it too. Well, there you go, So that's
only going to be a matter of time, right, And
then again, it's another plant grown in the earth.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, how dare you? People?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Better nature?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
So it feels better I think that I think the
Native Americans knew all this stuff and we came in
and fucked it all up somehow, someway or another. But yeah,
that's right. We're figuring it out. We are figuring it out. Well.
Thank you very much, both of you for your time
and uh for MJ. Dispensary for allowing us to be
out here, for Michelle.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
I'm gonna blank on her name.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Are that's all right?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
My name is Grace. I shouldn't know.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
I like to call her Gracelynn. Nolan's not her middle name.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
It's not her middle name. No, No, it's a very
like it does. It rolls off the tongue, and I
would say, almost like the Irish Catholic family names were
like Grace Lynn. Yeah, yeah, yep, I got it. I'm
Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.
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