September 24, 2025 • 32 mins
Bill is joined by fellow podcaster Madge Maddigan, host of Madge Unmuted!. Fresh off taping the premiere of her sixth season, Madge drops by for a lively conversation about Jimmy Kimmel’s return to late-night television after suspension, and what it says about free speech, cancel culture, and corporate America. Bill and Madge explore whether these debates truly involve free speech—or if they’re something else entirely.
Later, Peter Montemurno checks in from Las Vegas to break down the Buffalo Bills’ big win over the Miami Dolphins and preview their upcoming matchup against the New Orleans Saints. With the Bills sitting as 15.5-point favorites, Peter and Bill debate whether they can cover the spread and what challenges lie ahead.
Finally, Juice Fields delivers his NFL Week 4 picks, dives into why he refuses to watch a Colts game, shares thoughts on his beloved New York Giants, and opens up about life with his growing family.
Packed with humor, sports insight, and thought-provoking discussion, this episode delivers a little something for everyone.
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Later, Peter Montemurno checks in from Las Vegas to break down the Buffalo Bills’ big win over the Miami Dolphins and preview their upcoming matchup against the New Orleans Saints. With the Bills sitting as 15.5-point favorites, Peter and Bill debate whether they can cover the spread and what challenges lie ahead.
Finally, Juice Fields delivers his NFL Week 4 picks, dives into why he refuses to watch a Colts game, shares thoughts on his beloved New York Giants, and opens up about life with his growing family.
Packed with humor, sports insight, and thought-provoking discussion, this episode delivers a little something for everyone.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Colored a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.
It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the pirate ship. I'm excited because I got
a call that Madge, who's been on the podcast before
and has her own podcast, Match Unmuted, was going to
be in town taping an episode. And then she texted
(00:54):
me saying, I'm sorry, I'm running late. I'll be there
in about five minutes. I said, perfect, no worries and
they and don't laugh at me because I'm dressed like
a troll up which I was like for my Caesar
premiere and I'm like a troll and I'm thinking, what.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I walk in the door with this outfit on?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It is a boosty and your BOOSTI is boosted out?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yes it is, and I got that. I don't want
to give it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh look at that, so I got sorry.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Sorry for that angle there, Bill, you gotta picture the
Holland Tunnel there for a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So, oh my god, I almost just spit out my water.
What are you doing right now?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So when I walked in with this outfit and and
You're like, give me the look, like what And I'm like,
oh god, do I look that bad?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No? No, no, no, no, no, old lady, What did I
say to you?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
And then you said, oh, I thought you were going
you're not dressed as a troll or whatever you said,
and I said, trall up.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, if I read it out like fanatically, it does
say trill up, but it says it is two words.
And I was just I was firing through things. I'm
on the phone with my kid's mom, trying to talk
stuff out with the hymn and blah blah blah. So
I've been you know how it works to remove a
mile one hundred miles an hour?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I know.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So you're in town to do your season premiere match.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
On muted is season six?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
This is great? And when does it drop? Hold?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Please?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Okay? Hold please?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Good? It drops on Friday?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay? Good?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Hopefully. So yeah, I'm trying to I'm going to do
one every week. Okay, I'm trying to stay current. I
want to get them I want to record them and
get them out right away because the stuff is timely.
Like I wish I could do, you know, a daily
like you do, but I don't have enough material. And
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's imagine that even Drew, you said you're around, come in.
I had, well, Danny is normally here with me tonight,
but his wife had a procedure and so he was
going to be with his wife. And then you said
can I come in? And I go, that's great because
Madge has a lot to say about a lot of things,
(03:23):
and I thought, you know, you have a media background,
and I thought we could talk about some of the
other things that are happening in the world.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And I I.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Like and respect your opinion, believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Thank you. Yeah, no, I know I had wanted to
talk to you about some uh doing some stuff, podcast stuff,
and but but yeah, you could tell that that didn't
work out.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We can we can, we can still do that, we
can do that in between.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah. So I'm so glad that that you asked me
to partake.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Of course. So here's the thing that I find interesting
with this whole I watched last night, I couldn't watch
I could not watch same I had to go to YouTube,
and I think I waited till I don't think I
found it till like one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Really, Well, it was weird because I was doing a
bunch of other things and the next thing I know,
I go, wow, does this happen? I get like a
surge of entergy. You know what I did?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh, I do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Here's the bad part I had. I stopped at Starbucks
and got an energy shot. They do these ginger energy shots,
and so I took that at about three o'clock in
the afternoon and madge. I did that once with a
red bull, and I cannot fall asleep. So I was awake,
and I finally found Kimmel's monologue as he opened up,
(04:45):
which I thought was hysterically funny. The first part I
did too.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
It uploaded, Uh probably what did you started? Eleven thirty five?
It was like an eighteen minute monologue. It was up
by like ten of twelve.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It was okay midnight. Yeah, I didn't see it. Yeah,
it was twenty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, because I kept watching because I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, because we have Sinclair stations and they're not putting
them on.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, and so I was, you know, bound and determined
to find it, and I just sent away for the
YouTube things.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So I did watch and then I only watched half
of it until he went to I think he took
a commercial break.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
In between you in the middle of his monologue.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, And then I waited till this morning because then
then I'm tired. Then then I go, oh shit, I'm
in bed all it's time to sleep. So I did that,
and then I got up this morning and I did
watch your thoughts on all of it would be what
i'd like. I'd like to you will let me see that.
It's a weird it's a weird time. I don't understand
(05:45):
what's happening. Yeah, I mean I do.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Understand, which no, right, And so I just talked about
this on my podcast. So I just recorded that. I'm
I've always tried to be very diplomatic about things too.
I'm fucking done with that. I mean, you are, I
am you know in June I turned sixty. Yeah, and
(06:09):
I these are all the fucks that I have.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Really, there's none there, There's none there.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And so I'm just I'm going because you know, I
haven't I didn't want to turn off certain people. And
I have friends that are on both sides.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I have very.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Close people in my life that walk both sides. And
I just found myself that I was just doing a
disservice to myself because it was affecting my mental health
by not talking.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think that that's like really self aware.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, so I really I could.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I was.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I knew I was getting very anxious, and I was like,
this feels like somewhere I've been before in my life.
Oh yeah, most of it where I tried to be
something else people you know, wanted me to be, which
was not myself. So I was trying to, you know,
constantly dim my light. And I'm like, fuck this I done?
So where do I start? You know, free speech, most
(07:10):
people don't know what the fuck that really is.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Thank you, because I agree with you. It's ugly. Free
speech is ugly, right, right, So you got to tolerate
both sides exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You have to tolerate both sides, and it doesn't. But
it also means it also means that you're not also
know sorry, it also means that you're not free from consequences. However,
you should be free from consequencesquences from the government. Yeah,
(07:43):
so you know when when people are always you know,
you you're online, and somebody says, uh, horrific things, and
then like, it's free speech, man, I should say whatever want.
Because when some if someone else even comes in and says, gee,
that's not cool, that's incredibly racist. Free speech man, I
(08:04):
could say whatever I want. It's like, okay, well that
doesn't mean I.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Have to like it, right, that's very very astute, right,
because I'm not gonna like what somebody says. There's books
in print that I would never read. There's that. But
when it comes to like the Kimmel situation, it's not.
Here's where it gets tough because you know, and I
(08:27):
talk to you about things happening in local radio, and
I'll just go back to that. That isn't so much
free speech as it's corporate. And it almost feels like
many people for many years said I wish we could
have a businessman in the White House. There was always
a little run in the country like a business right.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Sorry, I think I just sprained an eyeball.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yes, so right now, it does feel a little bit
like America the corporation. And here's what I mean, if
you work at a place like paychecks, they give you
a dress code, you have to adhere by the rules.
And if you continue to walk in there. And I
would say this to my kids all the time, to
anybody like I don't agree with the Catholic church, but
(09:13):
I'm a Catholic and I continue to go. If you
walk in their door, you got to play by their
rules or you gotta leave. You can leave and find
something else. You have that free choice. So when it
comes to Kimmel, I was like, at first, I go,
I don't know what this is. I watched a by
accident that night that had happened. I had the Monday
(09:33):
night football game on, which was on ABC. I flipped
over to ESPN. That game was boring. I went back
to ABC and just had it on as background noise.
Some show where this woman is super smart and she
could figure stuff out. Oh do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So I don't watch. And then right after that the
news was on and are you too hot?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well you tell me, yeah, I'm sorry, I can lower this.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So I don't even know what to say. It's very
rare that I get a loss to so as I'm
watching it, I saw the whole thing. It was funny.
But the part that seemed to upset people was when
he said something along the lines of the right seems
(10:27):
to be distancing themselves as much as possible from the
individual who shot Charlie Kirk because that person's family was maga.
I've read things that he was even further right. Other
people say he's not, he had whatever, but they were
distancing and I and you can kind of understand it.
He just saw that to me was like a throwaway.
It was nothing. It was a nothing. And the problem
(10:51):
is that it's the FCC chairman that decided that. That's why.
And here's what people don't understand. And this is the
corporate part of the thing. In business, yeah, a lot
of deals get made, right, so we talk about backdoor deals.
That's why there's rules and things in government. I remember
(11:12):
my buddy's dad was the GM of Upstate Milk when
we were in college, and he got let go because
the company was fine for price fixing or it said
to be part of price fixing. In other words, they
would go to the schools and go, all right, you
get the bid this time, match, and I get the
bid next time. We're going to go, well, he's raise
it a little bit, but we'll come in the lowest
and it'll still be fifty cents of more than we
(11:32):
were getting per Carton or something like that. So these
kind of things happen, and this felt like that. It's like, hey, man,
you want you guys, ABC Disney, you want to buy
the NFL network, You want that approved by the FCC.
Shut your mouth piece up. And it felt the same
way with Colbert. But at first with Colbert, I kept saying, hey,
it's corporate. If you're losing money. They were saying they're
(11:55):
losing money. Things I read said that. I said, as
much as I don't like it, I don't like silencing
of voices. This isn't a free speech issue because it's
a business issue, and business is cold, and it's pretty
much black and white. We have feelings like when the
local radio station. I don't like seeing local people off
the radio. I don't care who they are. I think
that's terrible, but it's if they're not making Their whole
(12:19):
thing is to make money. That's it. The business is in.
You know, you're in the business to make money. So
that's what I thought. But then when you now look
at it through a slightly different lens, and you see this.
It's really disturbing because that's not and I said this,
and it was somebody else said it I saw afterwards.
I try to stay away when there's hot issues from
reaching anybody else's opinion. So mine is truly mine. It's
(12:43):
not influenced. And I said, this is not American. It
felt non American to me, or un American in a sense. Right,
it's anti American, And I thought, wow, And you know,
he got emotional as he talked about Look, I said,
when that when Charlie Kirk got shot, that to me
(13:05):
was damaging to free speech because I feel like people
would be quiet, no matter what they wanted to say,
for fear that someone could have put a bullet in
their brain or wherever. And that that, to me is terrible.
I don't want to see free speech. There is the
ugly side of it, and that's okay. I'd rather have
(13:25):
that than not that at all.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yes, well, yeah, let me start out by saying is
start out by saying, Charlie Kirk being murdered was not okay.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's awful.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It's awful, horrendous, it's horrible. That shouldn't have happened. No one,
that's not the answer. No, And it's it's horrible, you know,
for his wife and his kids, anybody, anybody that loved him.
I mean, you know, anyway, that's terrible. And this is
(14:03):
going to be controversial, and and he was, and you're
you're right because so many people have tried to spin
it on why ABC yanked him, what like what one
thing did he say? And I think you're right on
the money, well on the money that you know, he
(14:25):
said that the guy was the shooter was maga or
or the fact that he said that the shooter wasn't
on the left. But the other thing is, you know,
I thought the funniest thing is when he said and
and I'm I'm kind of thinking Trump is very very
(14:47):
very thin skin.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Trump Trump admitted it years ago, years ago. And played
a clip of that last night.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, and he admitted it, and he said that,
oh my god, what was the thing he said? Oh?
They played the clip of them saying, you know, oh,
aren't you upset about your friend? Yeah, and look at
these trucks over here building this ballroom. And then everybody
laughed and it's like, however, so you were saying, yes,
(15:15):
corporations can't say right. They can have their standards. However,
when it's dictated.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's the part that feels.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
That's the part that's icky because and it's two things.
Is what the chairman of the FCC CAR said and
then doubled down on about basically like you do this
the easy way of the hard way. That's a threat.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
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(17:28):
this point, and it does look like, gosh they could.
I mean, the one stumbling block that many of us
saw was Baltimore, and I don't know, that was amazing.
And now Baltimore looks. I mean, the Lions made them
look less than spectacular. Seven times they got to the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
They fell apart in the fourth quarter again, like they
fell apart in the fourth quarter against the Buffalo Bill.
So they have their own demons that they are trying
to transfix over there in Baltimore. But it was a gosh,
it was an interesting game that they had there. And
Detroit looked really really good, really good, really good.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Detroit looks like maybe they're the best team. I don't know,
it's hard to say because they didn't look that good.
You know, even against did they play Dallas recently, I
didn't look so good.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Again, they looked terrible against green.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Bay, Green Bank, green Bay horrible, Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
And then like just they ever said, they lost eight coaches,
they're not gonna be able to rebound, they not gonna
have the year. But man, I tell you that under
the lights Monday night football, they came to play and
they still have the same talent. They didn't lose much talent.
They got Hutchinson back. Who I'm telling you the guys,
the game changer is one of the best. I's not
the best defensive player in the league right now. But
back to Buffalo, man I three and oh. We weren't
(18:44):
expecting that. It's interesting that the Bills are three and oh,
and then the Chiefs and the Ravens are playing for
who's gonna be one in three?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You think about that the beginning of the year. Did
not think about that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But how are you feeling about Buffalo? Certainly against the
Dolphins Thursday night games so short week, you're talking about
guys banged up on defense, and boy, there were times
and you're always going to hear this when you're playing
a division game, and I always say, I don't know
(19:19):
with the professionals. I think every game is every game,
but you seem to play up more when you're in
the environment. And they were able to move the ball
quickly against the Bills.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh that was the thing.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
I think the game plan coming in would look to
by the naked eyes get the ball out of to
his hands quick So even though the Bills didn't have
it Oliver, they.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Still had Bosta on the pass rush.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
They're a very good penetrating team, so they wanted to
get the ball out of Oliver's or to his hands quickly,
and they did that, and they did a good job
doing that. Guys are open quick, they made quick throws.
They didn'tow any pressure to get to TUIs. So I
kept saying in my house, I'm saying, guys, suspend your
pass rush, stop it, and get your hands in passing lanes. Now,
(20:03):
they did that towards the end of the game, which
resulted in that interception. I can't remember the d line
and Walker maybe that got his hands up and actually
tipped the balls also slightly. It may have been intercepted anyway.
But when you get hands in passing lanes, that's going
to do way more damage than trying to go one
hundred miles an hour trying to get to the quarterback
when the quarterbacks are not going to allow you to
do that during the game. So that was a little
(20:25):
bit of a chess match. I thought they were going
to do more misdirection than they did. The Bills were
caught in some of the big chunksy yards of the
Dolphins got. The Bills were caught in some stunts where
they slanted the entire line to the right and the
Dolphins had the play going back to the left, and
you put a linebacker on an island.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
You just can't.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
You know, the Dolphins out coached him on that one.
The one thing that I got frustrated with it and
they won the game, and that's great. But as you know,
anybody who's ever played the game, and anybody any coach
who's ever coached the game, you know, nothing is ever
as good as it seems, and nothing is ever as
bad as it seems. The one thing that I got
frustrated with is in that first series that the Dolphins
(21:02):
had that was not a catch by Tarik Hill on
the sideline that was bobbled and he had one foot
in bouncey. Why was the challenge flag not thrown? I'm
not gonna call that Outam McDermott. I was a third
down would have forced the Dolphins to punt. They eventually
scored seven on that play, and people might be thinking,
(21:25):
why are you splitting hairs three and no, you have
in those games where you're gonna need.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That play to go your way. You have to have
a well oiled machine when it comes to instant replay.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Now, could have the headsets gone down, technology gone down?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
No one was communicating. They couldn't hear say throw the flag. Possibly.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
This is why preseason is so important to the coaches,
not just.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
To the point we have too many preseason games.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
It's so important to the coaches for those types of
situations where you have to have the processed downpat and
you have to have someone in the booth watching that
play before we see it, before we see it in
our homes or wherever we're watching it. Because they got
a phone down to mcdermom, say throw the challenge. Frag
goes absolutely not a catch. So that was a big
(22:16):
issue for me. I mean, they kept the game close,
and I think that that wasn't the only thing, but
it was so early in the game. The Bills obviously
overcame it. But just those little tiny things Bill and
it's again three games in. They're gonna get better at
that as a game as the year goes on, but
just a small thing.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
When the teams are better, you're going to need that backup.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
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the football field. Uh yeah, I mean they're they look good.
If the defense can hold up, we don't have to
any injuries. I don't know who.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
I think the biggest take the biggest takeaway from last
week is this coming week, either the Ravens or the
Chiefs are going to be one in three and I
think the Bills just are going to just own the
a FC.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I mean, they essentially could have a three game lead
on uh the number one seed in the a FC,
and I think that is just massive. Plus they can
gain another one, you know against the Chiefs in you know,
another four weeks, so I mean, that's just monster.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
It is when you look at is it the Chiefs
Ravens in week four?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yes, that's yeah enough.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So that's a game where I'll ask you, uh, I
don't know if it's one you've examined or not, but
I would say one, you'd want the Chiefs to lose.
And I know everybody's going, well, you don't want to
see Lamar again. I'm like, yeah, but they seem to
have their issues. I'd like to see them beat. The
(25:31):
Chiefs have been the Bills nemesis, not the Ravens, and
I know they have been close, but do you understand
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I agree because the Chiefs, I think even are a
team that even if they lose three or even four
in a row, they could still rip off then ten.
Like they're just that team Mahomes is that guy read
you know, they just had the nucleus to be able
to do that. Where the Ravens, you know, I think
it's a little different now. I know I've just been
saying I thought they were the best team, you know,
in the league, and I still think they're up there,
(26:00):
But yes, they have their problem big time. You know,
and that showed Monday night the Lions.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean, look, the Lions didn't have obviously had a
tough game against Green Bay, and yet they sacked Lamar
seven times. And it almost feels like from week one
to week three they really put in the work and
put in the in the focus.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
So he did not have an answer for I mean
running around. He just he held the ball way too long,
which is why they got to him seven times. He
just Henry fumbled again for the third time in three games,
which I think he had three fumbles in like two seasons.
He's got He's fumbled every single game this year so far,
(26:41):
which is just nuts. So they definitely they have some
issues for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, when you're looking at the games, who do you?
I guess We'll let me start with this because it's
the Buffalo Bills. I think this spread right now is
fifteen and a half. Is that accurate? Peter? By the way,
Peter said that he was on before you, and it
was actually Peter who said and I should give Peter credit.
I don't want to be that guy. I feel like
(27:08):
Robin Williams. Robin Williams never was always accused of stealing
other guys jokes, and I knew guys who were really
friendly with Robin and they would say, he just has
his brain and he doesn't even know he's really doing it.
So I don't want to be stealing from Peter was
the one who said, I don't think you want the
Ravens the Kansas City to be the Ravens. I think
(27:28):
you want the Ravens to be Kansas City. And that
was sort of his theory, and I agree. But tell
me about that. That seems like a really high spread
and one that may come down.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah, I don't think it could go because I said
this last week when the Dolphins game, I think ballooned
up to twelve. I said, I never take double digits
in the in the NFL, and they covered the Dolphins cover.
Yeah they did, so I mean that's fifteen. I mean
the Saints I think are terrible, one of, if not
the worst team in the league, and they start super slow.
(28:00):
So if anything, I would take the Bills first quarter
or first half and just get it over with because
I think this is a game where Josh Allen doesn't
even step on the field. In the fourth quarter, I
think they're up thirty eight, ten or thirty eight three
and you know, just kind of cruise, you know, run
the ball, get out of there, you know, unscathed, no injuries.
(28:20):
But at the same time, fifteen points, I mean, you're
just asking for a back door cover. I mean, you
could be up twenty twenty one and all it takes
is one hundred to come down meaningless.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, play garbage, still get up in garbage, nzel.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I'm staying away for that for sure. I can't even
find a money line on it, which would be like,
I don't know, probably like twelve hundred to win one
hundred bucks or something just for them. I mean, I
don't think there's any way in hell the Bills lose
that game. But I don't like the fifteen and a half.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
There is a game that I find very interesting. It's
Sunday one o'clock. It's the Browns and the Lions. And
here's why I find it interesting. The Browns defense is legit.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
They're awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
That defense is legit. And the Lions defense is we
saw it against the Ravens. I mean, they they held
Henry they you know, he fumbled again and they got
to Lamar seven times. I don't know what the spread
is on this, I feel like it could be a
low scoring game big time.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I like the under under four and a half right now,
and I guarantee that comes down to like forty two,
forty three. Okay, by time Monday hits, that's gonna be
under slugfest big time, thirteen three, thirteen to six, something
like that. It's gonna be low scoring because it's a
shame the Browns don't have an offense, because that defense
is legit. I mean what they've done to Love last week,
(29:49):
getting that upset. You know, Burrow couldn't do a thing
on them. They're playing good their offense, they just have nothing,
which you know they're in these low scoring slugfest games.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, another one that I find intriguing at one o'clock,
and it's only because you know they've been able to
eke these games out. But I believe they're one of
the ten teams that are three and oher at this
point in the season. And that's the Bucks going up
against the Eagles. But there's something about Baker Mayfield that
(30:19):
that motherfucker is a baller. Man. He is a baller
and I don't know that he has the most skill
or the most athleticism. He was the number one overall
pick the same draft Josh Allen was in. But and
certainly their career pass have been a little bit different. However,
(30:40):
He's I mean, Baker is like, God damn it, he
will they get that done.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
They became the first team to win three games off
the final drive. Yeah, they very well could be oh
to three, but they're not. They're three at all. And
good teams find a way to win. They just they do.
And which is I think what Tampa Bay's doing. That
being said, I mean there's also had some luck, which
you know, to win those games, all these close games,
(31:08):
everything's got to go on your side. So that'll be
I think that's very interesting and if anything, I would
be inclined to take them. I think they're getting three
and a half. I like that a lot in in Tampa. Yeah,
on Monday or Sunday, so that's.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Kind of a So that's sort of a push then,
right if they're I mean you're talking really a half
point because you get three points for being home. Yeah,
and I think you know.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
The heat, especially down in Tampa, the heat, you know,
teams that aren't used to that, you know, humidity could
be a factor.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So yeah, and the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
The Eagles got so lucky. I mean they were down
twenty I think twenty six to seven against the Rams.
I remember that was my pick and they and to
lose that on a block field goal. I mean, that's
that's just unheard. All they had to do was either
miss the field goal, make the field goal or you know,
(32:02):
Blackett and just they don't return. They cover the Rams
cover that three aren't They're two brutal beating Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I think I have to do a solo one. I
don't know. You gotta see it for Juice, for Peter
who is in Vegas. For Madge Madigan, please check out
the Madge Unmuted podcast and will come out frid rates
Ers fourth season. I'm Bill Moram. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I woke up in hotel, didn't know what to do.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I'm turning a TV letter to you.
When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Colored a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.
It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the pirate ship. I'm excited because I got
a call that Madge, who's been on the podcast before
and has her own podcast, Match Unmuted, was going to
be in town taping an episode. And then she texted
(00:54):
me saying, I'm sorry, I'm running late. I'll be there
in about five minutes. I said, perfect, no worries and
they and don't laugh at me because I'm dressed like
a troll up which I was like for my Caesar
premiere and I'm like a troll and I'm thinking, what.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I walk in the door with this outfit on?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It is a boosty and your BOOSTI is boosted out?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yes it is, and I got that. I don't want
to give it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh look at that, so I got sorry.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Sorry for that angle there, Bill, you gotta picture the
Holland Tunnel there for a minute.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So, oh my god, I almost just spit out my water.
What are you doing right now?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So when I walked in with this outfit and and
You're like, give me the look, like what And I'm like,
oh god, do I look that bad?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
No? No, no, no, no, no, old lady, What did I
say to you?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
And then you said, oh, I thought you were going
you're not dressed as a troll or whatever you said,
and I said, trall up.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, if I read it out like fanatically, it does
say trill up, but it says it is two words.
And I was just I was firing through things. I'm
on the phone with my kid's mom, trying to talk
stuff out with the hymn and blah blah blah. So
I've been you know how it works to remove a
mile one hundred miles an hour?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I know.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So you're in town to do your season premiere match.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
On muted is season six?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
This is great? And when does it drop? Hold?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Please?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Okay? Hold please?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Good? It drops on Friday?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay? Good?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Hopefully. So yeah, I'm trying to I'm going to do
one every week. Okay, I'm trying to stay current. I
want to get them I want to record them and
get them out right away because the stuff is timely.
Like I wish I could do, you know, a daily
like you do, but I don't have enough material. And
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's imagine that even Drew, you said you're around, come in.
I had, well, Danny is normally here with me tonight,
but his wife had a procedure and so he was
going to be with his wife. And then you said
can I come in? And I go, that's great because
Madge has a lot to say about a lot of things,
(03:23):
and I thought, you know, you have a media background,
and I thought we could talk about some of the
other things that are happening in the world.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And I I.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Like and respect your opinion, believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Thank you. Yeah, no, I know I had wanted to
talk to you about some uh doing some stuff, podcast stuff,
and but but yeah, you could tell that that didn't
work out.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We can we can, we can still do that, we
can do that in between.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah. So I'm so glad that that you asked me
to partake.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Of course. So here's the thing that I find interesting
with this whole I watched last night, I couldn't watch
I could not watch same I had to go to YouTube,
and I think I waited till I don't think I
found it till like one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Really, Well, it was weird because I was doing a
bunch of other things and the next thing I know,
I go, wow, does this happen? I get like a
surge of entergy. You know what I did?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh, I do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Here's the bad part I had. I stopped at Starbucks
and got an energy shot. They do these ginger energy shots,
and so I took that at about three o'clock in
the afternoon and madge. I did that once with a
red bull, and I cannot fall asleep. So I was awake,
and I finally found Kimmel's monologue as he opened up,
(04:45):
which I thought was hysterically funny. The first part I
did too.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
It uploaded, Uh probably what did you started? Eleven thirty five?
It was like an eighteen minute monologue. It was up
by like ten of twelve.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It was okay midnight. Yeah, I didn't see it. Yeah,
it was twenty five minutes.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, because I kept watching because I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, because we have Sinclair stations and they're not putting
them on.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, and so I was, you know, bound and determined
to find it, and I just sent away for the
YouTube things.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So I did watch and then I only watched half
of it until he went to I think he took
a commercial break.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
In between you in the middle of his monologue.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, And then I waited till this morning because then
then I'm tired. Then then I go, oh shit, I'm
in bed all it's time to sleep. So I did that,
and then I got up this morning and I did
watch your thoughts on all of it would be what
i'd like. I'd like to you will let me see that.
It's a weird it's a weird time. I don't understand
(05:45):
what's happening. Yeah, I mean I do.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Understand, which no, right, And so I just talked about
this on my podcast. So I just recorded that. I'm
I've always tried to be very diplomatic about things too.
I'm fucking done with that. I mean, you are, I
am you know in June I turned sixty. Yeah, and
(06:09):
I these are all the fucks that I have.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Really, there's none there, There's none there.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And so I'm just I'm going because you know, I
haven't I didn't want to turn off certain people. And
I have friends that are on both sides.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I have very.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Close people in my life that walk both sides. And
I just found myself that I was just doing a
disservice to myself because it was affecting my mental health
by not talking.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I think that that's like really self aware.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, so I really I could.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I was.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I knew I was getting very anxious, and I was like,
this feels like somewhere I've been before in my life.
Oh yeah, most of it where I tried to be
something else people you know, wanted me to be, which
was not myself. So I was trying to, you know,
constantly dim my light. And I'm like, fuck this I done?
So where do I start? You know, free speech, most
(07:10):
people don't know what the fuck that really is.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Thank you, because I agree with you. It's ugly. Free
speech is ugly, right, right, So you got to tolerate
both sides exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You have to tolerate both sides, and it doesn't. But
it also means it also means that you're not also
know sorry, it also means that you're not free from consequences. However,
you should be free from consequencesquences from the government. Yeah,
(07:43):
so you know when when people are always you know,
you you're online, and somebody says, uh, horrific things, and
then like, it's free speech, man, I should say whatever want.
Because when some if someone else even comes in and says, gee,
that's not cool, that's incredibly racist. Free speech man, I
(08:04):
could say whatever I want. It's like, okay, well that
doesn't mean I.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Have to like it, right, that's very very astute, right,
because I'm not gonna like what somebody says. There's books
in print that I would never read. There's that. But
when it comes to like the Kimmel situation, it's not.
Here's where it gets tough because you know, and I
(08:27):
talk to you about things happening in local radio, and
I'll just go back to that. That isn't so much
free speech as it's corporate. And it almost feels like
many people for many years said I wish we could
have a businessman in the White House. There was always
a little run in the country like a business right.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Sorry, I think I just sprained an eyeball.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yes, so right now, it does feel a little bit
like America the corporation. And here's what I mean, if
you work at a place like paychecks, they give you
a dress code, you have to adhere by the rules.
And if you continue to walk in there. And I
would say this to my kids all the time, to
anybody like I don't agree with the Catholic church, but
(09:13):
I'm a Catholic and I continue to go. If you
walk in their door, you got to play by their
rules or you gotta leave. You can leave and find
something else. You have that free choice. So when it
comes to Kimmel, I was like, at first, I go,
I don't know what this is. I watched a by
accident that night that had happened. I had the Monday
(09:33):
night football game on, which was on ABC. I flipped
over to ESPN. That game was boring. I went back
to ABC and just had it on as background noise.
Some show where this woman is super smart and she
could figure stuff out. Oh do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So I don't watch. And then right after that the
news was on and are you too hot?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well you tell me, yeah, I'm sorry, I can lower this.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So I don't even know what to say. It's very
rare that I get a loss to so as I'm
watching it, I saw the whole thing. It was funny.
But the part that seemed to upset people was when
he said something along the lines of the right seems
(10:27):
to be distancing themselves as much as possible from the
individual who shot Charlie Kirk because that person's family was maga.
I've read things that he was even further right. Other
people say he's not, he had whatever, but they were
distancing and I and you can kind of understand it.
He just saw that to me was like a throwaway.
It was nothing. It was a nothing. And the problem
(10:51):
is that it's the FCC chairman that decided that. That's why.
And here's what people don't understand. And this is the
corporate part of the thing. In business, yeah, a lot
of deals get made, right, so we talk about backdoor deals.
That's why there's rules and things in government. I remember
(11:12):
my buddy's dad was the GM of Upstate Milk when
we were in college, and he got let go because
the company was fine for price fixing or it said
to be part of price fixing. In other words, they
would go to the schools and go, all right, you
get the bid this time, match, and I get the
bid next time. We're going to go, well, he's raise
it a little bit, but we'll come in the lowest
and it'll still be fifty cents of more than we
(11:32):
were getting per Carton or something like that. So these
kind of things happen, and this felt like that. It's like, hey, man,
you want you guys, ABC Disney, you want to buy
the NFL network, You want that approved by the FCC.
Shut your mouth piece up. And it felt the same
way with Colbert. But at first with Colbert, I kept saying, hey,
it's corporate. If you're losing money. They were saying they're
(11:55):
losing money. Things I read said that. I said, as
much as I don't like it, I don't like silencing
of voices. This isn't a free speech issue because it's
a business issue, and business is cold, and it's pretty
much black and white. We have feelings like when the
local radio station. I don't like seeing local people off
the radio. I don't care who they are. I think
that's terrible, but it's if they're not making Their whole
(12:19):
thing is to make money. That's it. The business is in.
You know, you're in the business to make money. So
that's what I thought. But then when you now look
at it through a slightly different lens, and you see this.
It's really disturbing because that's not and I said this,
and it was somebody else said it I saw afterwards.
I try to stay away when there's hot issues from
reaching anybody else's opinion. So mine is truly mine. It's
(12:43):
not influenced. And I said, this is not American. It
felt non American to me, or un American in a sense. Right,
it's anti American, And I thought, wow, And you know,
he got emotional as he talked about Look, I said,
when that when Charlie Kirk got shot, that to me
(13:05):
was damaging to free speech because I feel like people
would be quiet, no matter what they wanted to say,
for fear that someone could have put a bullet in
their brain or wherever. And that that, to me is terrible.
I don't want to see free speech. There is the
ugly side of it, and that's okay. I'd rather have
(13:25):
that than not that at all.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yes, well, yeah, let me start out by saying is
start out by saying, Charlie Kirk being murdered was not okay.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's awful.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It's awful, horrendous, it's horrible. That shouldn't have happened. No one,
that's not the answer. No, And it's it's horrible, you know,
for his wife and his kids, anybody, anybody that loved him.
I mean, you know, anyway, that's terrible. And this is
(14:03):
going to be controversial, and and he was, and you're
you're right because so many people have tried to spin
it on why ABC yanked him, what like what one
thing did he say? And I think you're right on
the money, well on the money that you know, he
(14:25):
said that the guy was the shooter was maga or
or the fact that he said that the shooter wasn't
on the left. But the other thing is, you know,
I thought the funniest thing is when he said and
and I'm I'm kind of thinking Trump is very very
(14:47):
very thin skin.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Trump Trump admitted it years ago, years ago. And played
a clip of that last night.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, and he admitted it, and he said that,
oh my god, what was the thing he said? Oh?
They played the clip of them saying, you know, oh,
aren't you upset about your friend? Yeah, and look at
these trucks over here building this ballroom. And then everybody
laughed and it's like, however, so you were saying, yes,
(15:15):
corporations can't say right. They can have their standards. However,
when it's dictated.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's the part that feels.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
That's the part that's icky because and it's two things.
Is what the chairman of the FCC CAR said and
then doubled down on about basically like you do this
the easy way of the hard way. That's a threat.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
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this point, and it does look like, gosh they could.
I mean, the one stumbling block that many of us
saw was Baltimore, and I don't know, that was amazing.
And now Baltimore looks. I mean, the Lions made them
look less than spectacular. Seven times they got to the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
They fell apart in the fourth quarter again, like they
fell apart in the fourth quarter against the Buffalo Bill.
So they have their own demons that they are trying
to transfix over there in Baltimore. But it was a gosh,
it was an interesting game that they had there. And
Detroit looked really really good, really good, really good.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Detroit looks like maybe they're the best team. I don't know,
it's hard to say because they didn't look that good.
You know, even against did they play Dallas recently, I
didn't look so good.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Again, they looked terrible against green.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Bay, Green Bank, green Bay horrible, Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
And then like just they ever said, they lost eight coaches,
they're not gonna be able to rebound, they not gonna
have the year. But man, I tell you that under
the lights Monday night football, they came to play and
they still have the same talent. They didn't lose much talent.
They got Hutchinson back. Who I'm telling you the guys,
the game changer is one of the best. I's not
the best defensive player in the league right now. But
back to Buffalo, man I three and oh. We weren't
(18:44):
expecting that. It's interesting that the Bills are three and oh,
and then the Chiefs and the Ravens are playing for
who's gonna be one in three?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You think about that the beginning of the year. Did
not think about that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But how are you feeling about Buffalo? Certainly against the
Dolphins Thursday night games so short week, you're talking about
guys banged up on defense, and boy, there were times
and you're always going to hear this when you're playing
a division game, and I always say, I don't know
(19:19):
with the professionals. I think every game is every game,
but you seem to play up more when you're in
the environment. And they were able to move the ball
quickly against the Bills.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh that was the thing.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
I think the game plan coming in would look to
by the naked eyes get the ball out of to
his hands quick So even though the Bills didn't have
it Oliver, they.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Still had Bosta on the pass rush.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
They're a very good penetrating team, so they wanted to
get the ball out of Oliver's or to his hands quickly,
and they did that, and they did a good job
doing that. Guys are open quick, they made quick throws.
They didn'tow any pressure to get to TUIs. So I
kept saying in my house, I'm saying, guys, suspend your
pass rush, stop it, and get your hands in passing lanes. Now,
(20:03):
they did that towards the end of the game, which
resulted in that interception. I can't remember the d line
and Walker maybe that got his hands up and actually
tipped the balls also slightly. It may have been intercepted anyway.
But when you get hands in passing lanes, that's going
to do way more damage than trying to go one
hundred miles an hour trying to get to the quarterback
when the quarterbacks are not going to allow you to
do that during the game. So that was a little
(20:25):
bit of a chess match. I thought they were going
to do more misdirection than they did. The Bills were
caught in some of the big chunksy yards of the
Dolphins got. The Bills were caught in some stunts where
they slanted the entire line to the right and the
Dolphins had the play going back to the left, and
you put a linebacker on an island.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
You just can't.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
You know, the Dolphins out coached him on that one.
The one thing that I got frustrated with it and
they won the game, and that's great. But as you know,
anybody who's ever played the game, and anybody any coach
who's ever coached the game, you know, nothing is ever
as good as it seems, and nothing is ever as
bad as it seems. The one thing that I got
frustrated with is in that first series that the Dolphins
(21:02):
had that was not a catch by Tarik Hill on
the sideline that was bobbled and he had one foot
in bouncey. Why was the challenge flag not thrown? I'm
not gonna call that Outam McDermott. I was a third
down would have forced the Dolphins to punt. They eventually
scored seven on that play, and people might be thinking,
(21:25):
why are you splitting hairs three and no, you have
in those games where you're gonna need.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That play to go your way. You have to have
a well oiled machine when it comes to instant replay.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Now, could have the headsets gone down, technology gone down?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
No one was communicating. They couldn't hear say throw the flag. Possibly.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
This is why preseason is so important to the coaches,
not just.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
To the point we have too many preseason games.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
It's so important to the coaches for those types of
situations where you have to have the processed downpat and
you have to have someone in the booth watching that
play before we see it, before we see it in
our homes or wherever we're watching it. Because they got
a phone down to mcdermom, say throw the challenge. Frag
goes absolutely not a catch. So that was a big
(22:16):
issue for me. I mean, they kept the game close,
and I think that that wasn't the only thing, but
it was so early in the game. The Bills obviously
overcame it. But just those little tiny things Bill and
it's again three games in. They're gonna get better at
that as a game as the year goes on, but
just a small thing.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
When the teams are better, you're going to need that backup.
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seems to be shooting off the charts as well on
the football field. Uh yeah, I mean they're they look good.
If the defense can hold up, we don't have to
any injuries. I don't know who.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
I think the biggest take the biggest takeaway from last
week is this coming week, either the Ravens or the
Chiefs are going to be one in three and I
think the Bills just are going to just own the
a FC.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I mean, they essentially could have a three game lead
on uh the number one seed in the a FC,
and I think that is just massive. Plus they can
gain another one, you know against the Chiefs in you know,
another four weeks, so I mean, that's just monster.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
It is when you look at is it the Chiefs
Ravens in week four?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yes, that's yeah enough.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
So that's a game where I'll ask you, uh, I
don't know if it's one you've examined or not, but
I would say one, you'd want the Chiefs to lose.
And I know everybody's going, well, you don't want to
see Lamar again. I'm like, yeah, but they seem to
have their issues. I'd like to see them beat. The
(25:31):
Chiefs have been the Bills nemesis, not the Ravens, and
I know they have been close, but do you understand
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I agree because the Chiefs, I think even are a
team that even if they lose three or even four
in a row, they could still rip off then ten.
Like they're just that team Mahomes is that guy read
you know, they just had the nucleus to be able
to do that. Where the Ravens, you know, I think
it's a little different now. I know I've just been
saying I thought they were the best team, you know,
in the league, and I still think they're up there,
(26:00):
But yes, they have their problem big time. You know,
and that showed Monday night the Lions.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean, look, the Lions didn't have obviously had a
tough game against Green Bay, and yet they sacked Lamar
seven times. And it almost feels like from week one
to week three they really put in the work and
put in the in the focus.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
So he did not have an answer for I mean
running around. He just he held the ball way too long,
which is why they got to him seven times. He
just Henry fumbled again for the third time in three games,
which I think he had three fumbles in like two seasons.
He's got He's fumbled every single game this year so far,
(26:41):
which is just nuts. So they definitely they have some
issues for sure.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, when you're looking at the games, who do you?
I guess We'll let me start with this because it's
the Buffalo Bills. I think this spread right now is
fifteen and a half. Is that accurate? Peter? By the way,
Peter said that he was on before you, and it
was actually Peter who said and I should give Peter credit.
I don't want to be that guy. I feel like
(27:08):
Robin Williams. Robin Williams never was always accused of stealing
other guys jokes, and I knew guys who were really
friendly with Robin and they would say, he just has
his brain and he doesn't even know he's really doing it.
So I don't want to be stealing from Peter was
the one who said, I don't think you want the
Ravens the Kansas City to be the Ravens. I think
(27:28):
you want the Ravens to be Kansas City. And that
was sort of his theory, and I agree. But tell
me about that. That seems like a really high spread
and one that may come down.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah, I don't think it could go because I said
this last week when the Dolphins game, I think ballooned
up to twelve. I said, I never take double digits
in the in the NFL, and they covered the Dolphins cover.
Yeah they did, so I mean that's fifteen. I mean
the Saints I think are terrible, one of, if not
the worst team in the league, and they start super slow.
(28:00):
So if anything, I would take the Bills first quarter
or first half and just get it over with because
I think this is a game where Josh Allen doesn't
even step on the field. In the fourth quarter, I
think they're up thirty eight, ten or thirty eight three
and you know, just kind of cruise, you know, run
the ball, get out of there, you know, unscathed, no injuries.
(28:20):
But at the same time, fifteen points, I mean, you're
just asking for a back door cover. I mean, you
could be up twenty twenty one and all it takes
is one hundred to come down meaningless.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, play garbage, still get up in garbage, nzel.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I'm staying away for that for sure. I can't even
find a money line on it, which would be like,
I don't know, probably like twelve hundred to win one
hundred bucks or something just for them. I mean, I
don't think there's any way in hell the Bills lose
that game. But I don't like the fifteen and a half.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
There is a game that I find very interesting. It's
Sunday one o'clock. It's the Browns and the Lions. And
here's why I find it interesting. The Browns defense is legit.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
They're awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
That defense is legit. And the Lions defense is we
saw it against the Ravens. I mean, they they held
Henry they you know, he fumbled again and they got
to Lamar seven times. I don't know what the spread
is on this, I feel like it could be a
low scoring game big time.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I like the under under four and a half right now,
and I guarantee that comes down to like forty two,
forty three. Okay, by time Monday hits, that's gonna be
under slugfest big time, thirteen three, thirteen to six, something
like that. It's gonna be low scoring because it's a
shame the Browns don't have an offense, because that defense
is legit. I mean what they've done to Love last week,
(29:49):
getting that upset. You know, Burrow couldn't do a thing
on them. They're playing good their offense, they just have nothing,
which you know they're in these low scoring slugfest games.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, another one that I find intriguing at one o'clock,
and it's only because you know they've been able to
eke these games out. But I believe they're one of
the ten teams that are three and oher at this
point in the season. And that's the Bucks going up
against the Eagles. But there's something about Baker Mayfield that
(30:19):
that motherfucker is a baller. Man. He is a baller
and I don't know that he has the most skill
or the most athleticism. He was the number one overall
pick the same draft Josh Allen was in. But and
certainly their career pass have been a little bit different. However,
(30:40):
He's I mean, Baker is like, God damn it, he
will they get that done.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
They became the first team to win three games off
the final drive. Yeah, they very well could be oh
to three, but they're not. They're three at all. And
good teams find a way to win. They just they do.
And which is I think what Tampa Bay's doing. That
being said, I mean there's also had some luck, which
you know, to win those games, all these close games,
(31:08):
everything's got to go on your side. So that'll be
I think that's very interesting and if anything, I would
be inclined to take them. I think they're getting three
and a half. I like that a lot in in Tampa. Yeah,
on Monday or Sunday, so that's.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Kind of a So that's sort of a push then,
right if they're I mean you're talking really a half
point because you get three points for being home. Yeah,
and I think you know.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
The heat, especially down in Tampa, the heat, you know,
teams that aren't used to that, you know, humidity could
be a factor.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
So yeah, and the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
The Eagles got so lucky. I mean they were down
twenty I think twenty six to seven against the Rams.
I remember that was my pick and they and to
lose that on a block field goal. I mean, that's
that's just unheard. All they had to do was either
miss the field goal, make the field goal or you know,
(32:02):
Blackett and just they don't return. They cover the Rams
cover that three aren't They're two brutal beating Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I think I have to do a solo one. I
don't know. You gotta see it for Juice, for Peter
who is in Vegas. For Madge Madigan, please check out
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Ers fourth season. I'm Bill Moram. We'll see you tomorrow.
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