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September 8, 2025 102 mins
Bill welcomes Kevin Matt and an extra-excited Laura—who brought wine to celebrate today’s special guest! Lifestyle coach and author Lauren Hayes joins the show to discuss non-monogamy, sexual freedom, emotional boundaries, and her book For Better or Even Better: Seven Lessons on Love and Life from a Non-Monogamist. Laura can’t contain her curiosity, asking about fantasies, sex clubs in Toronto, and how couples can approach conversations about open relationships.

Meanwhile, Bill breaks down opening weekend in the NFL, including the Buffalo Bills’ incredible 41-40 comeback win over the Ravens. The crew also debates whether some Bills Mafia fans crossed the line with their behavior during the game. On the way into Buffalo, Kevin even spotted a bear hit on the thruway—cue the questionable tailgate snack jokes.

The conversation takes another twist with a discussion on the viral Facebook group “Are We Dating the Same Guy?”, raising questions about dating safety vs. reputation damage. Laura shares a personal story, while Matt compares it to the men’s version of the group in Rochester.

Things wrap up with a competitive round of Name That Tune. Play along and see if you can outscore the Billified crew in this fun, wild, and thought-provoking episode!


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons. Throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in
Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
Thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks for telling a friend.

(00:35):
That's how we spread the word about the pirate chip.
Laura's here, She's ready, ready tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I hope to guest cancels.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I talked to this person, but I was worried that
she may be too clinical. I don't know, I don't
know how. I don't know how she would be. She
is soft spoken.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
The word vulva at any point, well, well you.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Can try to get her.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
To say vulva. This is going to be a huge letdown.
The passion good pop simply be.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I reached out to a bunch of swingers on Instagram,
but I had to follow all of them to message.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Should have had your lady friend reach out to a
bunch of swingers.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Okay, yeah, right, because that's what she wants on her
I understand, but.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
You gotta you gotta take on podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Wrote a book. She thinks you would love her book.
It kind of gives you how to get into this
and what is okay and what's not okay. And she
says she's good for your reverend stuff. So we'll find
out a copy of she'll be we'll try to talk
her into that.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Okay, she'll be on in about a half hour, so
we can.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
Tell her about the book I gave you for your birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
The other that's right, it's right over here. Uh. I
got all the nude photos in it.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
That's right, man, we'll be talking about some nude photos today.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Why did you take some over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, we're able to secure the request I had from you,
like a week and a half ago.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
What was that?

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Requests kind of asked for one of the people who
had sent me or showed me something to sund it.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
But they said they showed you. They never said it.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
I did not want it, but I love photos.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
But if you get it, we can do things with it.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
We can make it dance and we can make.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It sitting at the beach. Oh, you can make it sing,
make it ai, no wonder. I don't want to send
you a picture. Ship Joe, send you a picture is
going to share to everybody guys, look at one of
the one thousand.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Do that would not not when I'm in a relationship
with him.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Side by side with the other one.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
But if it ended, if it.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
Ends, well, no, he's it's not gonna end. But you
know the other excess.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah, they got you, I hear you.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
I got him right here.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I think it was a pretty exciting opening weekend for
of the NFL.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Great.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean, there were some pretty good games. You know.
I thought the Tampa Bay Atlanta game was actually more
entertaining than I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Pittsburgh game was exciting.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
The Jacks Pittsburgh game was very exciting. Are not the
worst TVs?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Just aren't they good?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I'm not sure because the Jelphins are pretty bad. The
Dolphins look terrible. They lost to the Colts, right, they lost.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
To Daniel Jones in the coult.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
That's my buddies team DJ. You know the guy that
you met. Yeah, he was beside himself yesterday. He's like,
how do you come out this lame on the week
opening day? But it happens.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
We were debating whether or not he was gonna get fired.
Today it's week one.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I watched next week they come out and score forty
points right next week?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Uh and Newton, New England. Did the Raiders win that game?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, because they couldn't cover Brock Powers or Kobe Myers
at all.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeahs wants to be traded. You guys should look into
the up in Kansas City. I know you did.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
He was good and uh, he keeps catching seven hundred
balls in a game. He doesn't need to be traded.
He's all right.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
That Buffalo game was nuts. I mean, what the fuck happened?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I went to bed.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
So so here's the thing is, Like I saw the interception.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Derek Henry Randa Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I lost, Yeah, and I saw I'm like one time,
I go, I go in, I go, I'm gonna start
getting ready for bed. Now I don't know what I've
signed up for on my phone, but I'm getting every score.
Every time somebody scores and the games live, I get
an update on that score of the game.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
So no, because I was getting that.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
So I'm I'm flossing my teeth and I slicked down
and I see and I go, oh my god, they're
they could score and be within like a field goal.
And so I get in bed and I put on
the Peacock app on my phone and I watched the
rest of the game and I'm like, oh my god,
I missed the fumble. I missed the Derrek Henry fumble.

(04:37):
That was kind of the turning point. And man, I mean,
do not have any quit in you?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
You were down? Was there five minutes left in the game?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Man?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Four and they're down fifteen? God, there's a stat there
I saw today.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I mean, no team has ever lost having rushing two
hundred and thirty five yards.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, forty thirty five rushing yards. Teams were two hundred
seventy seven and oh yeah, so now to seventy seven
and one that that's unbelievable. And you gotta go. It
was Josh in the end, Josh, I mean the whole
team is Josh.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, that's a worry. That's a that's a real worry.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Although she found that team they win two games. Don't
tell me the defense is good.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
No, I said, the defense actually did okay at times.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
But you're your defensive line did okay, Yeah, but you're you're.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
What Oliver did a right and Bosta did okay. I thought,
But then you see what was the play where all
of a sudden Lamar Jackson runs scrambles, he's back twenty
yards and then gets a fifteen yards fast the line
of scrims for.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
A first down.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I go, what the fuck just happened? Like they were
going insane, and then in the end it was Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
If I'm harball, it's fourth and three.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, I'm going for it.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
You couldn't stop Josh Allen in the fourth quarter. Why
would you punt the ball and give it back to him?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
They won't got to get a field goal. If they
need a touchdown, I get it. Yeah, field goal. I
need three yards and I know them was cramping up.
Call time out. You had three timeouts? Yeah, call time out.
You got Henry, you got Jackson. They don't know who's
gonna run the ball, No, they don't. You could run
Jackson as a decoy. You could run Henry's a decoy
and the other guy could run it. There's no way
I'm putting that ball back to Josh. Yeah now that, Jeff.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
I mean, Derek Henry did so good yesterday except for
always does he kills the monster. He is such an
elite player.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, he's a He's a freaking monster. But I have
to ask this, and I don't know if anybody else
saw it. Text coming into five A five two oh
six eighty eight sixty six saying that a lot of
the Bill's fans were thrown shit in the end zone
when Baltimore scored, and I thought I saw something on TV.
And then when the players were the Baltimore players after

(06:45):
they scored, what there was some interaction between a fan
and Lamar and.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Get the guy in the head. He hit Hopkins on
the head and that's when he went to hit Lamar
and Lamar jack. Now the guy's been a suspended from
every stadium in the NFL. Can I go to a
game him? Was he trying to tap him? Because going
to try to slap him on the hell helmet it
hurts it echoes and yeah it does. You can't be

(07:10):
touching players like that. So I was gonna say he's
a drunk fuck and help themselves. They look like some
of those ship we got.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, And then Josh Allen after the game said this, I.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
Learned his lesson tonight, because when you come into Highmark
Stadium and you disrespect the Bills fan, you leave in
a fucking body bag. A man gotta have a code
in the moment I saw that greasy little hood rats
in the third quarter, I saw blood fucking red, and
I knew I'd get my revenge.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
AI scary because it all sounds exactly what Joe texted me.
He sent me that link and he goes, AI is scary.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
AI is scary, man. It sounds like I mean, it
sounds exactly similar to Josh Allen. I mean, if you
listen to it, you know, he definitely didn't say that,
but I'm thinking the fans in general, you can't fucking
do that. No, and people well, and I was actually
bothered when I thought I saw something on the field
and then I saw the text coming into the text line,
and I'm like, I guess it did happen because they

(08:07):
weren't showing.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
That ship on TV as much.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
They seen the move the way celebration didn't really show
it because they had the camera in front of the guy. Yeah,
so the other angle shows it really well, but the
camera they showed on TV last night wasn't showing it.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Here's the question I posted to Bill's fans at worked today. Though,
A did Matt Prater put Tyler Bass out of a job?
And B would Tyler Bass have made that kick because
he's had a history of missing winning kicks.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I would take Praider anyways. Yeah, I take him over
a Bass all. Yeah, I can go to forty five
Kerry Anderson. I think was forty six when he retired.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
It wasn't a long kick though.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Wasn't fifty something? Yeah, I thought there was thirty something
and then but he the NFL. But he did hit
a fifty five I thought earlier the game or something.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, he had a long one earlier. He has also
got the record for the longest until yesterday. Did a
Jacksonville guy really hit a seventy?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
That was in pre season?

Speaker 8 (09:01):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Okay, somebody told me happened yesterday? I didn't hear.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Was that game?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Was that game delayed for a little lightning?

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Okay, I didn't watch an hour and a half or
two hours? How bad did jackson think? Okay, Carolina got crushed.
They're bad? Are they Saints? Bad? Saints aren't going to
be that bad if they play like they did yesterday.
I mean Atlanta is going to be a solid team. Yeah, Arizona,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
I think the Saints are awful.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
They're going to be the worst. It's going to be
between them and Carolina.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, in the most teams, the Dolphins could sneak in,
so they could. They could, That's definitely true.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
It was an exciting opening weekend, that's all I know.
And then I saw the fan interaction to Buffalo. I
didn't see any other ship going on in any other stadium,
and I go, Buffalo, come on, come.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
On, it happens at every stadium. Yeah, I guess, but
that's you know, guys tailgating all day, and it's all day,
you got it.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I mean, I have people that got their summer loot
was sold out at eleven thirty.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I saw that on.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I wouldn't think they allowed them to open before stadium.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
The stadium lots don't open until like four hours before
the other lots.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Private lights.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh so the private lots, Oh, that's where you're going
and getting it on buddy the Kevin was going to
Buffalo yesterday and what did you see? Somebody hit a bear?

Speaker 4 (10:20):
We hit a bear on the through way. I'm looking
at him like, that's not a deer. It was a
dark brown and I'm like, I think it's a bear.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
Did the bear survive.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Bear was laying there motionless.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Oh that's wow.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
So just like the Chicago Bears. Yeah, okay, and.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Somebody else said it at the rink, and like I
kind of thought it was a.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Bear hit a bear like Pembroke.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Wow, look at this, Dallas looked pretty good.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I have to say, pretty good, you know, pretty good.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Doesn't wink wins though, no one. That's all that matters
because we can get this here, right, So but I
do forget lockdown.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
I have him going eleven and six, win a division, okay,
I win a championship game in losing, Okay, and I'd
be happy, all.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Right, yea, believe it or not.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
No, since Thursday with that kind of language, See, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Somebody by the name of Richard Shaft. Dick Shaft sent
a gift for Laura. Now I did open it because
I I and I didn't look at it. Once I
saw the note. He wanted to make sure it was
an anthrax for Laura.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
But Dick Shaft, I did see the name, and I
was like, oh, Dick Shaft, Yeah, that was the first thing.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Laura. Yeah, of course you did.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
She noticed it immediately.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
It's come from Newark. You got that's Waterloo, Waterloo, and
you got a lot of three one.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Five fourteen ninety nine foot road. Let's say from the
road this is for Laura. I'm ready to do everything
her man won't.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Whoa I knew a deck pack.

Speaker 9 (11:55):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
I've had a lot of people send dick pics.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
But oh, what is it?

Speaker 6 (12:02):
I think he's gonna lock me up? Hold on, hold on,
let's see.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
What does it say?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
See?

Speaker 6 (12:11):
This is why I get turned on. So he's like,
I want to devour her, to taste every inch of
her skin, to lose myself in the intoxicating scent of
her lust.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
That sounds like a serial killer to me.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Ye good, before you go, My goodness, what is this?

Speaker 4 (12:31):
That's how's auto biography started?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Can I just see this guy?

Speaker 5 (12:35):
You gotta lock it?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Okay, Jackson, Jackson, you're really gonna wear nothing? Why not?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Okay? You know what that is?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's like a dog collar so the person can pull yep,
and there we go.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Look at that? How you do that?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
But she didn't.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Well, well here's why.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
A second I'm looking at it, I could see what
it was.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
I could see that you just pulled the.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Stuff. There's the key to Yeah, like she wasn't already
turned on and coming into the really literally just put
it on.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I was like, I was like, I'm gonna be smells
like Gil's neck.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
You start hearing gaging, don't mind, somebody.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Chaft I love, we have to uh, somebody's gonna have
to reach over during the conversation with the sex therapist.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
And really hard turned on.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah the wait, didn't we.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Say that the choking was something that you like love,
get it right, okay, and this is uh, now here's
here's something that can happen without feeling like you're putting
your hands on and possibly killing me.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
You just pull the trick is you put your hands
on the side of the neck and you put the
pressure on the side of the neck and then you're
like not gonna.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Over here, or you get it too, just before they
suffocate and then let go then keep going. I can't
believe it hasn't happened yet the last time with the
X like they're rough.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
No, not from being choked, no, but from other things.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Almost like one time like like got passed out from gagging.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
From gagging like hutchins over here, yeah, like from deep throating.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Oh, gotcha and you almost.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Which I sort of like, what if?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
But you can lock down? What if you locked down
on it, like you know, only a couple of years
she's been with I can think to do that. Definitely
not the funniest guy in the show.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wow wow, almost passed out. Did you have to beg
to stop or no?

Speaker 10 (15:10):
No?

Speaker 6 (15:10):
I didn't necessarily want.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, no, I was myself.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
I was like, just choke me like yeah, wow.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, I like it apparently, And now you're gonna wear
your dog calls.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
You have to. I guarantee that comes out at home,
the dog chain.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
We'll see if you use that.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
If not, when Joe's not around them, come out and
purple Barney and dog collar.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
I told Ma, I was like, I am bringing wine
in a vibrator.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I saw the wine. Where's the vibrator control ones?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, that's what I should do.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
I should hook this up to like panty uh.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, vibrators, panny ones. Do you that's the way to go?

Speaker 8 (16:02):
Do you?

Speaker 4 (16:03):
You do have a vibrator.

Speaker 11 (16:07):
With me.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
In the car box?

Speaker 6 (16:11):
You always have her fingers with you. You don't always
need a vibrator.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
That's true. To bring him everywhere you go, Laura.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Smells like potato and sausage.

Speaker 8 (16:23):
Down.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
What the potato and sausage soup?

Speaker 4 (16:31):
There's a little cream in there?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
All right, Well we will, uh will take a moment
and we'll get the This therapist on her name is Laura.
She's written a book and her name is Laura hay
Lauren Hayes, excuse me. And she has a book called
for Better or Even Better, Seven Lessons on Love and

(16:55):
Life from a non Monogamoist. Yeah, so she works with
non snogamy. But also it's the Swinging Lifestyle Coach dot com.
It's her website, and uh, we'll see. She said she
actually right now currently is in Salt Lake City, Utah,
and said you would be amazed at the alternative lifestyle here. Well,

(17:15):
because I said, back, and then I remember years ago
and since he's retired now, we've had Mormons on and
they started and he started asking them and probing on
questions about sex and stuff and one and they were saying, no,
we don't we wait blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
And then it came out they were having anal Have.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
You heard about soaking?

Speaker 10 (17:37):
What?

Speaker 11 (17:38):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Wait wait wait wait wait, anybody hang on before you
say what soaking is anybody else?

Speaker 5 (17:42):
No soaking?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Somebody peas on you.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
But no, it just sound like that, right, that's not
what You.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Take the alcohol and put it up the key, right?

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
You never heard about that? Well, I make you really
drunk quick, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I hope. I would rather taste it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You taste, I don't need you taste salad bottle. What
is soaking?

Speaker 6 (18:06):
So soaking is when Mormons do it. It's when a
man puts his dick in a vagina and they just
lie there. There's no movement.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Oh, you just soaking it.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
And they just soak. But here's the thing. They and
I'm not even fucking kidding with this, they pay people
to shake the bed.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
When she farts at the spa.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
So you got a part time gym.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
So that's why he's not here.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
No, I have confirmed this.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
How did you find this out?

Speaker 6 (18:43):
I have a friend who's dating a Mormon guy, okay,
and he like told us all about it.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Really, yeah, it's a real thing.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
He's like, my religion is so fucked up that people
truly don't think that's having sex. Yeah, it's college kids
who do that. And then they they're people who get
paid to shake the bed.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, you would have to have so that so that
means you're not having sex. I mean that Dick is
still in the Jewish chairs. Oh and I'm assuming they
are fully covered if they're Mormons. When someone's shaking the bed,
it's not like someone's watching, well soak.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
I mean, there's got to be.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
But I'm saying underneath like blankets or something.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
I guess I didn't ask that.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
It's a fucking weird thing, Like I'm going how long
the weather is?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Hey, Kevin, are you going out Friday night?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Because I'm thinking of soak.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
And I need a bed shaker.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yes, you're not busy, you know, come over twenty bucks
for beer, a couple of pizzas and some wings. Is
Michael J.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Fox extra?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh fuck you?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
That's horrible.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
It is horrible. That is absolutely hard. It's great, Doug's
not the funniest show's Kevin.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh bt B wood Fire Pizza, real map from.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
But I just got to say hello, time for an advertisement.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
You can soak in the in the in the back room,
and you can soak in the back Round'll take the
table for it.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
You could soak with these uh, soak your your meatball
grinder right into the sauce. Delicious.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
That is unbelievable. That's kind of man. She makes great
meat both. Oh my, the meatballs are great.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
They're big, big meatballs. They're baseball sized.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
And is it garlic bread? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, and then nice what kind of cheese is on there?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
I eat it so fast.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
He took a ship.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I could eat it.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Picking it up, I had to go fork a knife.
You took the chance with a white shirt.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, he.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Doesn't know what you're giving him.

Speaker 10 (20:43):
No.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, I opened it up and could see it just
like when I cut it in half and I picked
it up, and I go, I'm going to save the
other half.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
All of us blindfold and get stuff shoved their mouth.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's just you.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Oh, I think that's Tony. You got the fried green
tomato slider so good.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
I told Nat. I was like, I don't know if
I've ever had them. It tastes like a BLT, like
a lightly fried BLT.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
So good.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
And there's crispy bacon. So that's my thing.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Matt.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
What's the soup that you were mentioning that people are just.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Raving about Tuscan sausage and potato. Yeah, that is a
chicken palm soup. This for the fall to really, which
is phenomenal. Good weekend with the NFL. We little little
light last night for the Bills games Sunday night Sunday
had he wants to come out.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
It's hard because a little lighter than usual. But the
but the other stuff was great. How was Thursday?

Speaker 11 (21:47):
For?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
It was jam?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, Dallas kicking it off opening night is always great.
I thought for sure. I was really thinking Dallas was
going to win the game. Yeah, uh.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Uh, they look good.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
You gotta have.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I mean, look, it's one game, like it's so early
in the season.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Victories here. Okay, she'll participation in one move the Giants.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, well and they probably will for sure. Yeah, all right,
we'll take a moment and we will. Uh it's it's
your segment next. I have a nice song for you too,
a nice old country song just for you.

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Speaker 3 (23:32):
Is that all right?

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Speaker 4 (23:46):
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Speaker 6 (23:47):
You ladies understood.

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You mad need to lend help and help.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Nineteen seventies country was so different.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I have no idea what that This is a legit song,
I would think, so, yeah, yeah, it was a hidden
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
The Academy Country Music gave so many.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Awards to this Record of the Year obviously most likely
a Video of the Year, contundent Record of the.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Year, possibly Video of the Year.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
I don't know. I had videos in the seventies.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
They could use your mind.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
All right, Well, there you go. We've been talking about
swinging for a while we talked about swinging the last
time we were all together, and I said I would
find somebody who could talk intelligently about swinging. So I
had to. I searched a bunch of places in this
one lovely intelligent person response I did myself there responded

(25:00):
back to.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Me, and her name is Lauren Hayes.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
She is a swinging lifestyle coach and she is the
author of for Better or Even Better, Seven Lessons on
Love and Life from a non Monogamist. So are you
ready to bring her on? Do you want to start
with us some questions? First of all, thank you for
taking the time to talk.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
To us, Lauren.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 8 (25:24):
Yeah, my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
So we talked a little bit before we came on
the podcast with her and introduced I had to introduce Laura.
Laura has said that she is so excited she stopped
before she came to the podcast tonight, got Wine picked
up wine and claims that she has a vibrator somewhere
in her person.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Joke.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
I made the joke that I was gonna have to
bring a vibrator here, but then I said I actually
didn't because you have your fingers everywhere. But I did bring.

Speaker 8 (25:56):
I'm glad I would inspire such things.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Now, Laura is very interested. We and I had talked
to Lauren.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
Go ahead, I feel like before we get to any
questions I have, we need to let Lauren explain what
she actually does.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Okay, that sounds like. That sounds pretty good. Actually, because
it's a lifestyle swing well, apparently she is.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
She's been, so this has been. I mean, come on,
this is her super Bowl, right.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
We talked about that bill.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
Years in the making of meeting on the podcast.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
So yeah, what what does a lifesty lifestyle swinging coach do?

Speaker 8 (26:33):
Yeah? So at the heart of it, I am a
relationship coach, and sorry, are you getting some weird feedback
from my thing? I feel like I'm getting weird feedback.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Okay, I'm not going to get you.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
I am a relationship coach. And the one thing I
do want to distinguish right away is because the name
of my business is swinging lifestyle coach, there's this idea
that I'm coaching people into being swingers or into ethical
non monogamy. Ethical non monogamy is a term I'm going
to use a lot in our conversation, and I am
going to use a n M a lot for that,

(27:09):
just so we all know what we're talking about. Also
known as CNM, consensual monogamy or just open marriage. Lots
of terms anyway. Yeah, So really I work with couples
that are either interested, curious, or some people that are
actually in the lifestyle in swinging and just having some issues.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Have you been Were you a swinger or are you
a swinger? I am you are?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
So how how does that like?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
To me? That was always a tough thing. Like I
can see the intrigue in doing it, but how do
you I don't know, like home, you come home and
go like, how do you share that with the other
person without feeling jealous?

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Is my point?

Speaker 8 (27:58):
Share what you're interested in it? This is even before
you're interested.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Is that you mean, yeah, before you're interested. I always
feel like somebody's more into it in the couple than
the other person.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
Would that be fair to say, Well, there's always going
to be someone who brings it up every once in
a while. Someone There's actually a common way that people
will start exploring is through their own bedroom talk. So
they'll have a lot of talk about people watching them
or other things, and one day they kind of turn

(28:28):
to each other and they go, do we really want
to do that in real life? And then you know,
so it's kind of a joint venture if you will.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Then is watching the Gateway good guy?

Speaker 8 (28:42):
Maybe? I mean not necessarily, but it's definitely a first
step that people can do and go to a club
and not be participating. And that's one thing I want
to talk about for sure, is all the different levels
that you can and don't have to participate.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
And Laura watching to start to no, I want to
know actually how you started into this because were you
a marriage counselor or.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
I was so like our friend Bill here, I had
a late career transition, okay, And during COVID, I asked
myself that question somebody did in COVID of what I
really want to be when I grow up and personal development,
personal growth spirituality has always been a big part of

(29:31):
my life, and so I just pivoted and made that
my career and did coaching. At that time. We had
already been swinging for when I started my program, I
think two years, and so that was my inspiration. Also
is I wanted to help people in the process that
my husband and I sort of stumbled through and most

(29:52):
people do stumble through just kind of figuring it out
one thing at a time. But that's what I what
I do is I help people do it so they
don't like they're stumbling.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Okay, so I'm going to reference one of the things
that I feel like when I started to have like curiosity,
I was still married but not necessarily happily, and I
read Esther Perel's books. Is she someone who sort of
influenced you and realized I think.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Who's Esther Perrell?

Speaker 1 (30:22):
By the way, the name that's like an old lady name.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
She is an old lady and she's fucking amazing, and
she was brilliant and opened my mind, like cheating isn't
black and white, and you know, there's what works for
one couple may not be for another couple and everything.
So I'm just wondering if that's sort.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
Of Yeah, she's very mainstream. She's one of the bigger
names in the relationship world. And just so people know
she's very mainstream. She's not, you know, like I am
a swinging lifele coach. She doesn't identify in that way.
She just says a lot of things that if you know,
you know, and she's read a lot of or written

(31:06):
a lot of great books.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yes, yeah, how did you get into I mean, who's I?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I guess I'll start with that. Whose idea and your
relationship was it to explore swinging?

Speaker 8 (31:16):
Yeah, so this is kind of a two part story.
At one point some friends of ours who are polyamorous
approached me asking if we were polyamorous because they had
interested in getting to know us better. We were not
at the time, and we are still not polyamorous, by
the way. That's one thing I'm going to define a

(31:37):
few things while we go through this, because its own world,
its own language.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
And so.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
Under the umbrella of ethical nominogamy, there's polyamory, which people
are having multiple committed emotional relationships on the other end
of sort of swinging, which is more sex and friendship,
and then you have everything in between.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Because everybody.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Because that it sounds like, so there you're in a
committed relationship with more than one person.

Speaker 8 (32:07):
Yeah, so that's polyamory, and polyamory actually gets more media's
too much.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I don't want that, I don't need that. Disappointed at me.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
A lot of people are starting to equate ethical non
monogamy with polyamory just because polyamory is sort of out
in the ethers a little bit more, but in fact
not the same thing at all, as Laura is starting
to say, and well, not that they're not the same
thing at all, they actually require a lot of the
same skills and relationship skills to be participating in either way.

(32:43):
And there's also a lot of crossover in both directions.
And so once you get into this E and M world,
there are different communities. And then also everybody is like
defining what works for them. You know, if you're doing
this as a couple, you do what works for you.
So a lot of people don't even like to be
put in to one of these boxes.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
Yeah, I mean I understand that that's like something I
have no interest in. I hardly have enough time to
give to my boyfriend and children.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
And this is like, in other words, hang on a second.
Polyamory would be like, let's say you have three girlfriends. No,
I'm with you, and I'm with I'm with Laura and Lauren,
and sometimes I get your names mixed up. But uh so,
like I go out to dinner with you on Tuesday
and her on Thursday, but I sleep with you Friday,
and maybe you Sunday.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Is that Yeah, I mean it could be.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, where everybody comes together and it's like a snow
globe of humanity in there.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
Really exactly, I will say there are aspects and we
can get into this later in the and M community
that are slightly utopian, but we will get into that
later because that's okay. But here to go back to
my story. So, we had people approach us if we

(34:02):
were polyamorous. No, we weren't, but I was super curious
when he asked me, and I said, you know, that's fascinating,
so tell me all about it. So that was probably
about six years before my husband then did bring it
up again. So we both asked a lot of questions.
It was very fascinating, but we did not have interest
in doing that at the time. Then about six seven

(34:25):
years later, he brought it up. Brought when I say
it up? He said, I feel like there's just something
more And I was like, well, I what does that
even mean? Like you want a girlfriend? And he's I don't,
I don't know what it means. I don't want a girlfriend,
but I feel like there's something more. And that started
our exploration into what ended up being swinging.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
So did you start with like, I see, I'm very
interested in the voyeur as a mass back like people
watching yeah, watch like yeah watching people like with my boyfriend,
but he has absolutely no interests.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So hang on, is her relationship doomed?

Speaker 11 (35:06):
No?

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Oh, and it's the best relationship I've ever been in.
So that there was somebody in between my ex and
my boyfriend that is not not a good person, but
like he was very like, oh, let's try this, let's see,

(35:28):
you know, and so like I got really excited, and
like sexuality peaked and interest peaked, and then that ended.
And now I'm with someone who's like, I won't send photos,
I won't do anything like that.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Is there a way to encourage Let's let's say honestly, like,
if she came to you for counseling, could you coach
up her boyfriend to say, hey.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Just snap a photo. You don't have to look at it,
just snap and send.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
No, Okay, So that actually there's no way you think somebody's.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Back to the exact thing I said when we opened up,
I said I'm a relationship coach, because otherwise people think
I'm coaching them into.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Oh I got you, I got you. Yeah, but I mean,
but he wants She wants that stuff, and he's not
given it to her. So how do we get him
to give her what she wants? That's the question.

Speaker 8 (36:19):
We all want lots of things, and it's great that
she's asking love it, and he might say no for
the rest of their lives, and that's all something she's
going to have to accept.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Okay, all right, look at that.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah you can't for I mean, I know I will say,
all kidding aside all jokes. You cannot assert on someone.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
You just can't.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
There's no no. I think it'll destroy it.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
And that's why I always wonder with this, and that's
my curiosity was more how do you balance it and
make it work? And it sounds like some people that
I've read say their relationship is way better after swinging
because they're better at communicating and stuff, and that's weird.
But I would be like, you know, if I'm all

(37:05):
of a sudden, we are The grocery chain around here
is called Wegmans. So if I'm in Wegmans and I
look up and there's I'm going to change the name
because I almost said it, there's Tom down the aisle,
and I know Tom just tapped my wife two nights ago.
I don't know how to do I walk by high five.
I don't even know what I say to this guy.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
And that's me.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
That's a me problem, really, right, Yeah, I mean I
would say it is. I mean, I know I couldn't
handle it.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
They're coming at it from someone who's uninvolved. So if
he did actually go out with your wife, you probably
know him. You've probably had conversations with him, and or
you know of him through your wife and you are
one hundred percent okay with it, and he knows about you,
so yes, you're gonna approach each other and have a hey,
how's it going conversation? And if you wanted to high

(37:54):
five him, that probably would have happened before the time.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well it's fair too.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
What I say is it's like, how do I know
what I like and what I don't like? Because I
haven't pushed my own boundaries enough and I've talked about that,
but it may be something that I would actually if
I dip my toes in a little more. I'm so
apprehensive to it, and I'm like, no, this isn't for me,
But there's such a curiosity and I definitely know it's

(38:23):
more the voyeurism that like sex and public places, and
that has been around for a while.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Are you familiar with the saying curiosity kills the cat kill? Yes?
I think that if you're curious, are there ways how
would you? Well, since it's called coaching, how would you
coach someone who is curious like that if they have.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
A partner, let's say, yeah, if both partners are interested
in it.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
Yeah, Well, I will actually plug something that's on my website.
I have a free guide that addresses this exact question,
because this is probably one of the questions I get
the most, which is how do I bring this up
with my partner? So the guide is called Popping the
E and M Question. People can go to my website.
It's free to download, and it just gives a lot
of pointers of how to ask someone, which is, by

(39:12):
the way, not hey, this is exactly what I want
to do, yes or no? So because like what you
just said is exactly right. Even if you think you
have an idea of what you want to do, most
people don't really know what they want to do, and
so it's not about bringing up a proposition. It's about
bringing up a possibility, an exploration and you know, if

(39:35):
that is appealing to someone, then then they'll go. That's
the other thing. I get a lot. How do I
convince my partner? How do I convince someone? And I'm like,
there is no convincing. It's not the business I'm in,
that's not the business anybody's in. But it can be
a you can start a conversation and I know people
that talked about it for years before ever doing anything.

(39:58):
And I know people who talk about it and four
weeks later the club.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
So you know, that's amazing, amazing, Oh my god, that's
that's faster than getting your passport.

Speaker 8 (40:13):
But let's talk about club actually, because this would be
a great step for you and your boyfriend if he
was interested in. The reason a swinger club is a
great place is because I think the number one concern
that people here around swingers or swinger club is that
there's some level of expectation or participation that you have

(40:34):
to do if you're going to go to a swingar club.
And nothing could be more far from the truth. So
it's like any other club. I call it front of
the house, back of the house. Usually I have not
been to every club, but this is generally how it goes.
So you go in there's a bar dancing, probably more
scantily clad people than your usual but I don't even

(40:55):
know if I would say that. And then usually play
play equal sex hows in the back of the house.
And so then if you were feeling it, you would
go back with your partner and that is where you
could just watch or just play the two of you
and have people watch you if that's also what you wanted,

(41:16):
and that just would happen sort of naturally. Do you
want to get your vibrator out yet?

Speaker 6 (41:21):
I'm talking on that. I'm talking on the netlast because
I'm so I'm going to Toronto in a couple of
weeks and there is a club there that owass and
I'm very I have a friend who actually went and
experienced it with her husband and she had a very
good time. And I'm like, oh, I really want to go,

(41:43):
but okay, but he has no interest. But I do
have another girlfriend who I think she wants to go,
but her boyfriend would absolutely not even allow her to.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Like, but you can't control, see, that's the stuff is
like then I think they always leads to regret, yeah, right,
or you start to I don't know you're mad at
the person.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
I feel like Joe would trust me if I wanted
to go alone, to not actually hook up with anyone,
but just to watch, and he'd be like, go have fun,
like you'll still come home to me.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Would Joe be okay with you hooking up with a
girl and not a guy.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
I have no interest in. I think women are beautiful.
I'd rather go to a female strip club than a
male strip club, but I have no interest in.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
Yeah, Well from what I hear, you're not even interested
in hooking up. You're just wanting to watch or be watched.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
More so, how does the conversation go?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Because I have to say this, it had to be
kind of flattering to you, Lauren, that this neighbor comes
along and goes, hey, uh a lot to get to
know you. I mean that if nothing else, Like I've
had gay men hit on me and I go, I'm flattered.

(43:02):
You got a lot of choices in life.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
You know you want my hairy hal and now he's
got a beard. Well you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
No, But my point is I think it's flattering. But
the conversation is, well, you gotta have some I'll say
the word confidence, and I always believe this, Like people go, well,
I have a lack of confidence, and I'll say back
to them, sometimes you're pretty confident in the fact that
you have lack of confidence.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
So you do have confidence, it's just not in the
right spot.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
So how do we get that? But that does take some.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Because there is a chance of rejection or someone being
like offended or whatever.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
Ye to do that, absolutely, So first of all, I
was extremely flattered. And when I went home and told
my husband because I had gone out with this guy
for coffee. When I went home and told my husband,
he was also intrigued. I don't know what the word is,
but yeah, we're both like turned on.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
People find my way.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
They had sex immediately after this conversation.

Speaker 8 (44:03):
Yeah, we did. Like a week our sex life was
just like notched up, just from the energy of somebody else.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
You know what this is like when those shitty books
came out, what was this shitty book, Fifty Shades of Gray.
I'm sorry they were terribly written. My max wife, right,
but every guy who's ex ex wife, every guy's wife
read them or boy seemed to have that week of
notched up sex because it was all, well.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
He's very controlling and I love being dominated, so it
was you know a lot of things like that.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
We are learning so much tonight, you guys, are you
know I don't remember the domination anybody else?

Speaker 8 (44:46):
Yes, those books which I have not read, by the way,
But that is bordering on the kink community or more kink.
Now there is a big overlap between the a swinging
community or in m community and king but they are.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Not the same.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Just to be clear, much better, let me ask you
this and and this is going to be dominant. I
hope I'm not sounding too stupid to everybody in the room.
But it's the term ethical non monogamy. Can we get
rid of ethical because because it's almost it's to say
that nom moinogamy is is not ethical? And whose decision

(45:28):
is is it that it isn't or isn't ethical? Do
you understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (45:33):
I understand what you're saying. In the community, we do
we do drop it. We just call it non monogamy
because we already have a term for unethical non monogamy,
which is cheating and affairs. So yeah, so for us,
it is an assumed word. But when i'm.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
So you you swing you don't.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
You're not in the polyamorous, which would be dating somebody else,
and you're not are you? You're not in an open marriage.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
I mean some people would call us open. Yeah, okay,
So I mean open is kind of just another generic chart.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Well, I'm picturing myself laying in my boxers on the
couch watching Monday night football and that hair comes my wife,
hair curled, all make up up. All right, I'll see
you later.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
John's picked me up in a half hour. And I
would that would weird.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Me out a little bit.

Speaker 8 (46:22):
I don't know, Yeah, that would weird you out if
you weren't.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
In the lifestyle. See, this is the thing, is like,
I don't think I could do that.

Speaker 8 (46:30):
Yeah, this is a very conscious choice that you make
going into this.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Yeah, it's got to be a conscious choice.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
What do you think so far?

Speaker 8 (46:38):
Are you?

Speaker 6 (46:38):
I'm just I'm listening. I'm taking it all in.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, I mean not the first time she said that today?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, I think that. I mean, do you have any like,
is there anything that scares you about it?

Speaker 8 (46:54):
No?

Speaker 6 (46:54):
I mean that's the thing is, I'm not scared. I think, like,
as I've talked about like divorce, dating, coming to age,
like you know, turning forty. I'm confident in what my
curiosity is and I'm not ashamed of it like I
think most people are. I think I think so many
people are curious as to something outside of their marriage relationship,

(47:18):
but nobody talks about it. And I just talk about it.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, I mean, but I won't.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
I won't do anything without.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yes, which I think it's a relationship. Coach Lauren would
say that that's probably the healthiest thing you can do.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Yeah, right, is that?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
But even the other it seems weird, but it's just
people having sex. So in other words, I'm going to
be sound a little crass here.

Speaker 8 (47:43):
It's a fuck buddy, it's friends with benefits is a.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Okay, you're right, you're right, whatever you want benefits, you're right, okay.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
And okay. So that's one thing I actually do want
to distinguished because that's another stereotype, is that this is
all about sex and only sex, and we're walking in
and just fucking people, and you know, it is not
what it is. So it is, like I said, it's
any other club. You people are talking and mingling and
meeting and you know, I want to use your very words,

(48:23):
either for you against you. I don't know which built
But you said that you are curious about people and
that people love connection. Yes, yes, people love connection, and
that is why in the lifestyle, and I said, things
start to get a little utopian because this is a
community which is so open minded, open just sexually uh

(48:47):
body positive, sex positive. It's like a really fun crowd.
So a lot of people participate. When I say participate
in the lifestyle, they're not having sex with other people.
A lot of them they just like the scene because
it is non judgmental fun. Would you it's safe?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Would you start like almost, let's say, making out with
somebody and then move on, not move on to somebody else,
but go back to your partner, And I don't know,
it sounds like I'm not sure if you would.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I'm asking.

Speaker 8 (49:24):
Like, if you're at a club and you create a
connection connection and you decide to make out and that's
within the boundaries of your own relationship, then yes, you
might make out with somebody else.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Would you, and then would you be open telling us
what the boundaries are kind of in your relationship as
an example or no?

Speaker 5 (49:47):
You know, I don't I don't want to try.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Too much, but no, sure, okay.

Speaker 8 (49:50):
And this is the thing. So like, boundaries and agreements
are very important, and also they change constantly, so people
create generally a lot of them in the beginning because
these are our safety nets to go into something that
is something that we don't know about, and then they
change immediately. So I would say, you know, my husband

(50:11):
and I have been this for seven years, so we
don't have a lot, but we don't do We've gone
in different stages currently. We don't do a lot of
dating separately because swingers can date together and swingers can
date separately. It's kind of two models, and we don't
do a ton of that right now. We have in
the past. It all depends on sort of where you

(50:32):
are in your relationship too, so or where life is.
If life gets stressful in other areas, people will kind
of back off and maybe do less in the lifestyle
or whatever. But but so our other agreements and boundaries
are I mean, we just we go out together, so
we know what's happening with each other at all times,

(50:53):
so it's a little easier. But we we make out
with other people, we generate, you know, if we're making
a great connection. Sex is generally on the table, but
we check with each other first and make sure everybody's
there's a four way match, freeway match or whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
So okay, so these things do get Do you have
a couple, a regular couple that you swing with on
a let's say, I don't know Friday night, you call
them up, Hey, what are you guys doing tonight?

Speaker 8 (51:23):
And then no, we have very good friends in the lifestyle.
And when I said that swinging is about sex and friendship,
I think that's the thing that surprises people is that
people come for the sex and they stay for the friendship.
And so a lot of people are afraid of making
friends in the beginning because they're like, I don't know

(51:44):
how that works, mixing sex and friendship. And it works, Lauren,
I'm going to tell you it works, and people just.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Lauren, you need to make that a T shirt.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Come for the sex, stay.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
For the friendship. I think that right there, right there
does at all.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Because I would think that if you did have friends
like that, that if something happened then you had kids
and all of a sudden you were in a pinch,
you could call them up and say, can I drop
off billy for a little while.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Just hide your toys, it's coming over.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I think that's interesting that that would be that way.
And do other couples have other couples ever gotten jealous
or have you gotten jealous of a couple going on?
They're off with those people tonight?

Speaker 4 (52:26):
What about us?

Speaker 8 (52:28):
Well, okay, let's just talk about jealousy in general, because
that's probably one of the biggest questions that also comes up,
which is, of course we feel jealous in different situations,
whether it's jealousy about our partner or fomo or like
you know, there's many flavors of jealousy. And does it
come up for us. Hell, yes, And so everyone thinks
that we have this like superpower that we're not jealous.

(52:49):
It's just that we have a different relationship with jealousy,
I would say, than most people. And we just accept it, like, oh,
you know, I'm feeling jealous about that, and we may
or may not talk to partner about it. If we
are feeling particularly jealous, it might be a great conversation
to have with our partner. And sometimes we're just like,
oh my god, I was you know, I drank too
much that night. I was silly.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
I'm not.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
You know, that's nothing. We don't need to talk about that.
So it's really like a relationship with jealousy itself, is
what I would say.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
Jealousy can be hot though. Yeah, yeah, in my opinion, yeah,
I like that.

Speaker 8 (53:27):
I like that angle.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
I get very turned on if my boyfriend gets hit on,
you know, And I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, like
you said with your ex hus were with your husband.
But yeah, I'm going to ask a very superficial question.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
Sure I am.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
So, you know, I think the club would be the
scene that I would want to go into. My worry
is and I'm going to say this is that I'm
going to walk in and it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I'm sorry I say that.

Speaker 6 (54:01):
I just want to say the smell, like Jesus no,
that's why she just told them. I know it's not
it's body positive, but I'm afraid that, like, is there
going to be a smell or is there.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
Smell like sex in the club.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
Like that's when I'm like, you know, I fetch.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
People in the corner with ballags in their mouth and.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Yeah, okay, now.

Speaker 8 (54:24):
You're getting into the kink world again.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
That's not Yeah, yeah, I guess I'm thinking, yeah, no,
I'm getting you know, and maybe maybe that's why, like
I don't know, that's why maybe I have just kept
it a fantasy because it's like so hot to think about, Like,
but what if just you know, your expectations are a
lot higher, then it's a big letdown.

Speaker 8 (54:49):
It's like, yeah, I mean that is a thing. A
lot of people will have those conversations because they're like,
we have all these fantasies, and lots of people will
also decide to keep it as fantasy because they just
don't want to take the steps, or you know, they
ultimately decide they don't want to do that. But it
is very much how these ideas start. So and to
answer your question, like I said, uh, swinger clubs are

(55:12):
not created equal. They're everywhere. I don't know the one
in particular that you're going to. I've been to some
really nice swinger clubs. I've been to some less nice
swinger clubs, and none of them, I will say, have
smelled like sex the minute you enter the door. Now
when you get to the backroom, Like I'm just talking

(55:32):
about what's up?

Speaker 4 (55:36):
Let me say, what's going to happen if Laura goes
and it's a giant disappointment Joe.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
Just like you. Then I'll just go home and have
sex with him, like I know, no lose proposition.

Speaker 8 (55:48):
Whether she likes her, she doesn't like that she goes
home and has sex with her boyfriend. And that's actually
a really great point about swinging in general. Is we
all sort of like joke but not joke that like,
no matter what happens in an evening, we go home
with our favorite people. So this is fun.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Okay, I'll ask this again, probably superficial a little bit,
but do you think that because I'm thinking, like, the
first time you swing with somebody awkward? Was it awkward?

Speaker 11 (56:19):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (56:20):
There's a couple of things you sign up for in
this world. One is rejection. We started to hit on
rejection earlier. Two is awkward. You will probably have some
situations that feel awkward, but you know, a big deal
you you work here with you.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
And then the other is, as you get more comfortable
with this or maybe you get more comfortable with another
person in particular, does that make your overall sex life better?
Are you more open to trying different things satisfying and
really in it for the personal pleasure? Of the experience
than worrying about am I satisfying this person?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Do they really you know? What are they really here for?
Is it?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
It's almost sounds freeing when you're talking.

Speaker 8 (57:03):
It is freeing. I would I am like everybody does
anything for personal pleasure. By the way, we wouldn't be
doing it if it wasn't for personal pressure. What you're
insinuating is you're putting your own pleasure ahead of your partners,
which I would say is not true, or if you are,
that might be a dynamic that you're looking at. And yes,

(57:24):
it is very freeing. So that when I said, people
become attracted to the community because you can be self
expressed sexual. You can get turned on and you know,
go home and have the wildest sex of your life
and there's no judgment.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Now.

Speaker 8 (57:40):
So the other thing that does come up for people
is shame. So we live in a culture that has
been telling us. And I loved her little spiel earlier
when she was like, this is my fantasy and after
our a divorce and all these things, this is I'm
owning it. Yes, I wish more people did, and I
wish we talked about it more, and I wish more

(58:01):
people were able to. I mean, what is the saddest
thing to me is people don't even talk to their
partners about their fantasies.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
Oh, I sure do.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
And so, but when it comes to shame, like, I'd
be afraid, Like, you know, all of a sudden, I
go in and I look over and I see a
guy who's got a baby's arm for a penis, and
I'm standing there with my Irish self. I would I
would be so humiliated. I don't think I could get
it up. I'm not kidding. I would be like, oh god,

(58:34):
And I know that sounds like childish, juvenile. I mean,
it's my fifteen year old self coming out, but I'm
just being honest.

Speaker 8 (58:43):
Well, bodies come in many sizes.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
Yeah, but they're I'd be afraid, like, you know, just
because he's slum doesn't mean he's good.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
That's true.

Speaker 8 (58:52):
Well, yeah, exactly. And also, this is another fear that
does come up. It's like, well, what if my partner
likes sex with so and so more than me? And
I'm like, well, isn't that kind of a good thing
to know? Like don't you want to up your own
sex life if you know, going out with this one
other person? One time is better having sex with you
at home. So these are the conversations that get sparked

(59:16):
and can be very healthy and very healthy for a relationship.
So not just about the sex, but about all these
things that we're talking about that might have felt difficult
to talk about before, and when you have difficult conversations
with your partner, that actually has you feel closer. And
that's the name of my book, for Better or even Better,

(59:36):
because there is not anyone who practices non monogamy in
a healthy way and doesn't say that it improves their relationship.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Swinging lifestyle coach dot com is that where you can
buy the book.

Speaker 8 (59:50):
Yeah, I have links for everything on all the guides
the book. Everything is there.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
And eventually the T shirt that said came for the sex,
stayed for the friendship.

Speaker 8 (59:58):
I I'm getting on that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, I really should be.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
A thing in your swag shop.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
I kind of like it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Well, Lauren, I thank you for your time. Any other questions, I.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Mean many, but what we've got a process?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I feel like, what do you mean process?

Speaker 8 (01:00:16):
What?

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
No, I'm just I'm very intrigued. All we all know that,
And yeah, I just I think that it's nice that
there are resources that you can look to, like Lauren,
if you really want to push it again. I don't
know if it is just a fantasy for me, but
if I really really wanted to explore I probably would
try to talk to someone about how would I bring

(01:00:39):
it up to?

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
What is who does it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Who is more curious or who usually starts this dynamic?

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
Men or women?

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Yeah, a in a relationship. Why do I get the
feeld it might be women because I was thinking it
was dudes. I really did think, oh, yeah, it's dudes
going hey. But I'm starting to think no, it's not.
It's women, and it's for lightly different reasons than we
would even think as guys.

Speaker 8 (01:01:04):
Well, I don't know the stats, but I would say
in my simple world, it's about half half okay that
are bringing up It's pretty equal. But I think that
stat already is surprising to people because I think most
people do think it's guys bringing it up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
All right, Well, check out Swinging lifestyle coach dot com.
I think that there's a future zoom session and.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna go follow her on Instagram right now.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Follow her on Instagram. Good stuff on there.

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
Yeah, I do free consults so wonderful. Go to my
website sign up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
All right, well for what you ask for.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Getting a lot of free consent.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
Thank you for coming on, and please go buy the book.
And if you're curious, I think this is a great
place to start, a great resource.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Thank you, Lauren.

Speaker 8 (01:01:54):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
All right, by bye there she goes, Sorry, We'll take
a moment. I have, uh, you know that website that
you love so much? Which one are we banging the same?

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Dude?

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Oh, somebody sent me some stuff about somebody on there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Not somebody we know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Maybe hang on a second. I forget who's in the room.
The guy who knows a lot of you know a
lot of people. You know a lot of people. Yeah,
so I don't know if you're familiar with it's somebody
on the west side happens to be a chiropractor.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
Oh I saw that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
I saw well, hold on, I saw it when it
was quickly posted and then it was like that it
was gone.

Speaker 11 (01:02:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Well, someone's screen captured it and sent it and we'll
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Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
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i don't, have ACCESS so i can't go look at this.
Stuff MYSELF but i thought it sounded like maybe A.
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(01:05:44):
chiropractor and that anybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
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have it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
RIGHT here i would love to know if your new
lady friend that's checks you out on THERE yet.

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they show the guy and it's Chiropractor In. North childly
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Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
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Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
It posted is It?

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ME so i don't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Even know she's really?

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
A blonde?

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
That guy do you know him?

Speaker 11 (01:06:56):
At?

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kind Of.

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Speaker 8 (01:07:15):
To.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Say uh but then there's a whole bunch Of stuff laura,
after that did you?

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
Find, Him no i'm trying to, search THROUGH but i know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Somebody sent me a bunch of shit that this. THEY
wrote i followed all one hundred and sixty seven comments
before it, was REMOVED and i can tell you at
least three women came forward about having relations with him
at his practice.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
During, appointments now is he like a?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Smooth?

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
TALKER no i think it's. A, fantasy again you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Think it's a Fantasy because i've Had he's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Sometimes the adjustments they get into it's almost like a
massage where they get into the spot and she gets
a little turned on and maybe she just turns over, and,
says HEY but i go what?

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
You DOING can i see a picture of?

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Him? Again yeah how does? It that that's the PART
that i don't understand how it happened is like what
do you you KNOW what? I, mean like.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
Get a, little flirty, but again chiropractor equipments are, normally
short so you must be.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Very, quick.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
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yeah pops a disc Gets.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
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north childie didn't list his.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
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says yeah they don't have at least not in The thing.
I'm seeing but let me go back through the COMMENTS
because I have i should have pre, read THESE and,
i haven't so this will be The, FIRST yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
I didn't, I again I think i was like Scrolling
on facebook that day and it, popped up BUT then
i went back and looked at.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
It and it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Was, gone, well now so people are writing on There
like i'm wondering that to the other people are sex.
WITH them i don't think it should be swept under.
The rug somebody else, writes, agree well what he didn't,
Rape you That's What i'm this scares the shit out
of me because all of, a sudden now you can be,

(01:09:03):
posted well not only can you, be posted but you
could have your entire reputation in. Business destroyed and let's
say you did make a, decision one, You know friday
afternoon before, happy hour and you tapped uh, Bad.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
BACK betty, i mean maybe you shouldn't be fucking in. Your, workplace, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Okay okay you're a chiropractor and some guy wants to,
fuck you and that's. Not okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
She was making.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
A joke, I mean i know you never worked in,
frontier field but some.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
People have somebody said he also had a prison a,
business PRIOR and i believe lost his license to something
and had to start a new one with a, new
name et cetera a long. Time ago see this is like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
The ship.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
It's, repetition well it's a pattern if the guy's got
a pattern. Of BEHAVIOR but i want to know what
chiropractic IS because i see one, out There and i'm
us if he doesn't. Fuck me if you found out
your chiropractor was banging your best friend.

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And never wanted to, touch, yours you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
It's insulting my chiropractor is like seventy five, years Old so.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
I'm glad so if you walk into the chiropractor's office
and it smells. Like, sex yeah is that a bad
thing that ruined?

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The?

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yeah i Just, don't yeah but what Is the i'm
not SURE that i like, this SITE and i don't
know that it's very helpful. For people it Sounds like.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
I've talked i've SAID that i think it can be
helpful if you're being honest on it or like just
really looking for feedback. Or cautious I'VE said i have
commented on a. Few things i've seen a few People
who i'd gone on dates with posted and people, are,
like hey does anyone know about? This guy and there
was one GUY that i wrote like he tried to.

(01:10:51):
Assault me and then, you know there was another, guy
WHO like i went on a few, dates WITH and i,
was like she.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Stop once in, a while but for the three or four, like, you.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
Well and. That's true so you got to use your,
own judgment, like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yeah, because sometimes like, you know the real Housewives, of,
webster yeah turn into fourteen year old girls that are
just gonna gossip and ship on. Each other.

Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
But then there's like a lot of times people, post
anonymous so it's like you can't see who, it is
and then people will. REPLY anonymous i do think that
it is a. Good website, but people just, like anywhere
people try to just fuck other, people over.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
That's how the guys Want, to YEAH like i.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Imagine it are you? A member like imagine? A member
but do you have to be with.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
What happened with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
He's also?

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
A client think about what Happened to Greg when greg
got posted on mad he was so super people people
could do something just out, of spite and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
NOT fair i feel like that's what.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
IT is i do think that there is a lot
of people who. DO that i also think there are
a lot of dumb fucking women out there who date
pieces of ship that are sleeping with five.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Other. Women, girl yeah and.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
They fall for the lies and then maybe they, realize.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
It, What okay but what's on the guys one or guys?

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
Like that, probably me do they?

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
GET mass i feel like it's a lot of times
it's like they're pissed off AT the x or whatever
and they'll poster like, yeah, everybody, yeah yeah it's. It's
stupid they stay away because you know that's what, they're
writing and, you Know and i'm thinking that it's probably
like some bitter thirty five year old younger guy that's
that's a little.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Pissed, off.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
Well whether, OR not i. Don't know you've been on there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
In, my thirties.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Affliction shut have you ever seen a.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
Dude who you recognize from?

Speaker 8 (01:13:08):
The?

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Site?

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
Walking well the guys don't they?

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Post? Women oh they.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Post women i'm sorry it's always anonymous because they have. No, balls,
yeah dude you ever see women that have been posted?

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Walking in?

Speaker 11 (01:13:17):
Have?

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Not, OKAY yeah i have never known anybody it's been.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
Posted, Either well i've known so many people who have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Been posted they don't post. A lot, it's one maybe
a couple.

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
Of, Weeks maybe, OH god i had to scroll to
find two. Days, ago really people are posted.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Guys all the times?

Speaker 10 (01:13:35):
In?

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Hour now is this mostly women who, are like, let's
say i'll call, it, recycling right they've been married and
now they're back in the dating game and they feel
like they're going to, get hurt and so they're they're
looking to.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
BE hurt i feel like it's definitely more the thirty
to fifty year. Old, women yeah it's not the twenty
year olds who. Are posting you know they're still going
out and meeting On, At Easterton alex, and right it's
not it's definitely they're.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
No NO but i hear there's a lot of, Websites.

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
Like i'm not going to show this man, on camera
but this was posted twenty two. Hours ago he's definitely an.
Older guy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
What does.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
It say there's poor chop like he just looks like
he had a couple. Of beers Looks Like. Jim, kelly
yeah the, bills won the bills.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
Came back in one it says his name and then
it says any tea or. Red flags nobody, has replied
but then plenty of dot com and the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Red, flags yes you're posting this period is a red flag.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
For us you're the red.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Flag exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
I'll see the most recent was one, hour ago one,
hour ago.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
One hour it's A, fucking monday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
And it's a guy he hasn't Called for.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
Saturday yet it's a guy standing at. A, corner yeah,
you know side profile picture and it says tea on
him and there's seventeen comments. About, him really how many
baby mamas does?

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
He, got.

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
Okay straight bum things.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Like that it's a lot of, Stupid, shit, yeah okay
but you can learn something if. YOU'RE curious i guess
about The person i'm NOT gonna I, Researched joe sure
as hell.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
You, did yeah why tried to look him up?

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
On there yeah he wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
On there why don't you can't you just? Trust? SOMEBODY well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I, don't know by, the way as a fifty something
year old. White guy SO and i realized That as i'm,
saying it because When he matt just said you, CAN'T
today I think matt's way more CORRECT than. I AM
so i, Don't KNOW but i don't know what it's like.
For women it's got to be a little scary to
meet somebody Dating app.

Speaker 9 (01:15:53):
I'll say two.

Speaker 6 (01:15:54):
Personal experiences there was one GUY who i went on a.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
Date with.

Speaker 6 (01:15:59):
He worked At fat ex. Or whatever we went to
b side. Right here this is the guy who ended
up putting his like first time hands around, my neck
said like. Your mind then practically Was like i'm coming
over to, your house tried to pick me up and
carry me out to.

Speaker 8 (01:16:16):
MY car.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
I called he, asked me does anyone know who you
where you are? RIGHT now I called RENEE like.

Speaker 11 (01:16:23):
I was.

Speaker 6 (01:16:26):
It WAS like i met him for, one drink but.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Half.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Turned on he stood up in.

Speaker 6 (01:16:33):
THE restaurant i, was like this is. MY girlfriend i, was,
Like dude i'm meeting you for. One drink it. Was
Terrified so i'm so he. GOT posted i, was like
he got posted.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
To get the package.

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
On time he, got posted and his ex wife commented
about how like physically abusive. He was and then that
is one PERSON who i COMMENTED and I was i
went on one date. With him he made me feel.
Incredibly unsafe where did you?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Meet?

Speaker 5 (01:17:05):
Him what what site did you meet?

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Him on do?

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
You know i'm assuming it was a?

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Dating, sign yeah it was Probably. Like tinder so you're
still in the bar when he, grabbed you, oh yeah
and no one and no one could really, see it
right because he's got.

Speaker 6 (01:17:19):
To know like we were sitting up against, b, sides
small sitting up against the back of, the wall and
he like put his hand right around my neck, and
ask does anyone know where?

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
You are?

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Right now he's fucking punch him in. A.

Speaker 6 (01:17:30):
DECK no i got up and Just.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Laughed wow.

Speaker 6 (01:17:35):
And then another.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Ran him.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Another friend that's like really.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
Fucking, SCARED yeah i.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
WAS terrified i was telling everybody, about IT.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
And i got to tell. You this if a woman
got in.

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
The car, and said does anybody know where you are?
RIGHT now i don't KNOW what i.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
WOULD do i don't KNOW what i, would do because
AT first i would, start laughing this, Is anything you're getting,
murdered literally AND then I think i'm getting.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
Fucking murdering, AFTER that i started sharing my Location.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
With, renee okay so she KNEW where.

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
I was but what was the? Second guy I'LL.

Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
Say i had a friend who went on a date
with a notorious guy who had been posted on this
page saying he sleeps, with everyone he sleeps. With everyone
she went on a few dates.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
WITH him i.

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
Met him he, was, like no that was, my past blah,
blah blah slept with. My friend never talked to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Her again wait wait wait wait wait wait wait what
maybe she sucked. In bed he's not. His fault wait
he sex four times in.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
ONE night i don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
She, sucked okay, wait wait hang on. A second you
went out with?

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
This, guy no she did, A, friend yeah and so
the first night she gave. It, up no they had
gone on a couple. Of, dates yeah then she finally
she slept. With him he slept together. Numerous times in,
one night he hung out with her like the next
day until. Noon left ever spoke.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
To her good.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
It happens maybe she started talking.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
True colors, came out or like he, sobered up or
she really sucked in bed and he, was like maybe
next time. He better it was awkward the, First time second,
time nope maybe third. Time nope i'm gonna ever one.
MORE shot i just think.

Speaker 6 (01:19:18):
He's a piece, Of shit like everybody had posted on.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
That three votes to one says we're Right, IN.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Yeah, I why.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
I guess i guess there is some good to, the
cycle especially. Your story that's fucking scary man. Having somebody
this is WHY if i ever had a daughter in
that and she came home and said, That story oh,
come on you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Go on you gotta, kill him? Wouldn't? YOU yeah i
mean you'd want to find this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
And go what the fuck is wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
WITH you i would, find him. Promise You, oh god
that said.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
So coldly he sounds Like That liam neeson without.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
THE accent i have a very specific set.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Of skills.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
So, all right well the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
CHIRAP though i hate seeing that guy's business get ruined
over something if it was sort of.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
A beautiful something that. Was mutual it's, not, Like hey
i'm gonna massage you and all of, A sudden i'm
sticking my dick and you know you essentially, Had sucks
so now you're gonna blast this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Guy's business see this IS how i always wonder how,
it goes because, one like there's got to be a
vibe that you're feeling you're picking. Up on or does
she reach back and sort of GRAB your i, don't
know maybe he wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
In bed yeah it, could be or maybe it didn't happen.
At all she's just. Saying it that's that's the part that.

Speaker 6 (01:20:33):
She's crazy if three people spoke up AND said i
HAVE been.

Speaker 13 (01:20:41):
I have, A.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Crazy crazyx, TRUST me i have A crazy x that
would lie through her teeth and her friends would, believe
her believe me it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Can, happen well see that brings me to the THING
like i. Always go When the cosby, SHIT started i didn't. Believe,
IT yeah i didn't think that was real. At all
then we once we get around twenty, FIVE thirty i.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Start, to, go yeah maybe yeah it's one or, Two
three i'm not so sure, EVEN ten, i, GO well, i,
MEAN well i.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Don't know i'm just, saying like if you know almost, different.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Times, quick fix, you know a. Little payment and the other,
THING is i think sometimes with guys it's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
A challenge like if all of a sudden somebody wrote
that about a woman she sleeps, with everybody you don't
want to be, around her, and oh by, the way
she's got an Odor and I'M gonna i want to
find out it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Sounds like it SOUNDS like i can score you kind
of a heart, up night, you know on. A, weekend, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Yes it's been.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
A while WHAT am i gonna go?

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
After one, All, right well we'll take.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
A moment do we have?

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
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Speaker 8 (01:21:41):
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Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Do it or do you want to just?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Bail out everybody looks like they're a little oh. Gassed
out you're drinking wine and, having fun and you got
all turned on and then. TURNED off i got. TURNED on,
I know i know you got. TURNED on i was
watching your face, is like.

Speaker 6 (01:21:59):
And then you had about, LIKE yeah I just i'm
such a big, energy PERSON so i feel THAT if
i went to, A club i would have to have energy.
With someone and that's NORMALLY how i would talk TO
someone i don't Know who i'm always going to be.
Attracted to it could be someone completely different looking than
who my fantasy. Would be BUT if i have good energy,

(01:22:20):
with them, THEN yeah i want. To explore but THAT'S
why i can't. Trust, myself.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Okay, all right like throwing yourself right under the, bus
there trust myself. To go my GIRLFRIEND and i are Going.
To toronto we're thinking, about Going and Joe knows i'll
go home, to him does? He does he knows you'll
go home to, Think so but you just, said differently,
you know might catch some energy and catch a dick.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
IN you i.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
You know how much energy? Your, penises oh it's got.
A lot especially in one of. Those clubs it's like
A fucking it's like.

Speaker 9 (01:22:57):
A magnet it, just.

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
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getting soaked.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
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say you kind of know who?

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
You, are, yeah yeah you KNOW what.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
I mean i mean that's a statement that that's saying, something,
LIKE yeah i don't trust myself to. Go THERE Carl
x Potato and. Sausage, Soon yeah it's like it's like
ME when i walk into a beer as. Ale somewhere
anything could. HAPPEN here i walk into, a bar anything.
Could happen just. WATCH out i could be HERE like.

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
I think. I, THINK friday i started drinking at two
thirty and met. Some, people yeah just just.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Like college.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Two THIRTY then i was over in. Another bar those people.
WERE leaving, i LEFT and i get, A, Call, Hey
dad i'm gonna go to my. Buddy's house his mom's picking.
Me UP and i, went great.

Speaker 10 (01:23:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
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two OTHER people i know. Walk in i'm there to. Eleven,
THIRTY sure i drank from two thirty to. Eleven, thirty
oh thanks for the. PHONE call i couldn't find MY
phone i. Had home but that's. Like ME so i
guess for, a club that's it's good to. Know man
self recognition is all all the rage.

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Rum to be.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
Timonas issues been open For, mana helena one of The
Last david.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
Robards issues.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
SO like i know all, these SONGS and i don't know,
these SONGS and i can't come up with.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
The SONGS so i just don't couldn't tell.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
YOUR name i can tell you the words yes and
years on most of these.

Speaker 11 (01:32:16):
Brought yourself up that so lean, your head feel that,
look down try, your best suck out.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
You can don't you put about to tell themselves your.

Speaker 9 (01:32:34):
Wrong way.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
It just did so.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Like, a STONE and i feel.

Speaker 9 (01:33:07):
Into.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Your arms these days, WE'VE done i wish we know
will blow.

Speaker 8 (01:33:22):
With this.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
New suck.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
I'm having drup while trying.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
TO sleep I just I think i scored one on
this how as a chance in the movie question to
get something.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
This time Ticks By july dry raspbur got Jobs IN
here i go.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
And the movie question It's a matt special Long introm.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
I'm gonna let the. Hook place sometimes first song had
the hook in it all.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
THE time i gave you the hook one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Two or. Three times.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
No idea, first word the first song or.

Speaker 9 (01:34:41):
The book.

Speaker 6 (01:34:44):
That's what the movie has this song.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
In it very very.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
Good movie.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
Right to go back to. The top are we still
working for? The top, let's go let's here.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
We go give us a. Quick head.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
So It's bone Thugs. And harmony it's first in. A
month it's either ninety five or, ninety SIX but i
think it's.

Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
Ninety, FIVE god i love That song crossroads.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
This, grand granted that's the Only one i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Gonna get that might be enough to. Win tonight that
might be enough.

Speaker 6 (01:35:33):
To, win okay hold on what?

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
It Is bone Thugs, in harmony first of the month
from nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Ninety, five Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Nice PAUL when i Think, nice paul YOU got i
got you gotta give it to him.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
For that, MY god.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
I cannot remember who, this IS and i have it.
WRONG you i Wrote Down stone Temple pilots Gavin.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
TO gray i think, it's him anything other than.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
ME to i wrote two thousand and two It Is,
GAVIN degrauz i don't want to be from two thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
And, four, oh okay Is This? Richard marks it is.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
NOT written i was wondering the, same THING and i
did not write them down. ON purpose i wrote it
is the Song called reason nineteen ninety eight Is not
reason from nineteen.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Ninety, eight, OKAY well i don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
So far I'm now chicago nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Eighty EIGHT now i said Eighty seven It's a.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Place In this World FROM.

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
W smith oh. My god that was a Friend Of
beth donaghue's from nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Ninety, one, YEAH yeah i guess he. Did it he
Had A kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Gillens special yeah, All right i've got nothing, So LONG
so i Wrote My boogie shoes nineteen, Eighty Two hoogy shoes.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
Nineteen, eighty, Two Too, booky shoes eighty.

Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
Eight Shoes it's casey In The Sunshine Bands boogie shoes
from nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Seventy, FIVE damn i had. Seventy. EIGHT first i that wouldn't.
HELPED anyways i got five.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Points five take, Some Time.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
OH laura i.

Speaker 6 (01:37:05):
Wrote simple plan Takes A little time two thousand, and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Eight, THOUSAND six i wrote nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Ninety One It's jimmy Worlds the middle from two thousand.

Speaker 10 (01:37:14):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
One fuck.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
I'm sort of on the, same LINE.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Like i should know this ONE and i don't know
you shall know, this one, BUT yes i know. THE
song i just can't tell your Name artist wait for you,
yeah eleven two.

Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
Thousand eight WHY do i want To, Say lumineers but It's,
not LUMINEERS it's.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
I will Wait from Mumford and son twenty. Twenty one,
OH god i.

Speaker 5 (01:37:43):
Think This is i'm gonna have the lowest, score ever.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
But this was only twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
One one might be a type doesn't say there's.

Speaker 8 (01:37:50):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
Way, no yeah that's Not because Mumford and sons was broken.

Speaker 9 (01:37:53):
Up then but it's.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
NOT either i Don't. THINK mumford.

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
I just head friends go and see Them.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
At gorge i'm.

Speaker 6 (01:38:02):
So jealous.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Technicality check on my own, no filter it is. Not
filter it's not on my own two thousand. And one
it is not two thousand.

Speaker 6 (01:38:17):
And, ONE Tommy I will wait was released in. TWENTY
twelve i was.

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
VERY close i had flipped. My apologies? WHAT'S right i got?
Ninety eight no song.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
Or artists this Is green day's brainstell. Ninety, six yeah oh, So,
LOT god i can't, All right so this is Van
ham this Is.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
Van, Hamm, right yeah you?

Speaker 6 (01:38:39):
Fucking won yeah you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Won DECK oh i got. FIVE points i got ten
POINTS to i have.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Fifteen points TWISTERS what i wrote it is twister over
here nineteen. Ninety six there's the cow circle takes.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
The square you have enough to overcount. Twenty five you had.

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
Boogie shoes so you're on the. Board there you might
have won.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
By five put a banner?

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Up five how MANY do i get for?

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
The title you get twenty for the category for.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
The, movie, then yeah he's got? Thirty, Five, right no twenty? Five,
tied okay something up?

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Top, two no the only thing UP top i got was.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Booty shoes THAT'S all i got to get twenty for, the, Movie,
right no you get ten for the.

Speaker 9 (01:39:27):
Movie, ten yeah but you got.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
THE year i got the year and the and, the
band but not the name of.

Speaker 5 (01:39:34):
The song SO.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
So i only got.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Twenty point do we have.

Speaker 8 (01:39:39):
To go to.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
On, tiebreakers well we. Do not you're out here, Taking that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
We'll take.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
THE time i.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Like that matt knew that, first one like right, right
now that's my.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Were?

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
You You matt pitchers had ever put songs in there,
for HIM so i made sure to get some bone
dugs in.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
For him, All right but what where DID? You dj DID?
You Dj like?

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
CENTERS stuff i. WAS that i Was At Tiki. Bobs
tremors that was a big. Same things diamonds have. A,
nightclub wow that's all like different nights of. The, week
yeah you, all throughout, you know throughout.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
The nineties was it weird going back INTO bt b
knowing you were in there when.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
It was Captain At? FULL circle I mean i did every.
JOB there i was, A manager i was a, BAR
manager i WAS, A dj i was a security Guy At,
captain ZADICK and i cooked in. The, kitchen wow that
was my full. TIME job i was there from nine
am to, two Am like Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Through.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
Saturday god during the Other days i'd be there during the.

Speaker 8 (01:40:35):
Day.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Dinner, wow yeah well now it's doing much Better than captain's.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Attic did what did great guys were, JUST yeah I
know i.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
THINK that i think there's MY. Wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Dj yeah it was a restaurant and it turned into
a club. At night and it was interesting because they
do bands on Weekends and thursday nights and then the
big club Night was. Wednesday night we'd have four hundred
people in The place. Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
Night yeah where?

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
Is, now yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
LADIES nightly i had a DANCE. Floor dj but, with.

Speaker 5 (01:41:05):
Everything they used to do a comedy and we.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
Did it we started it And then. Tommy did THAT'S
where i, Met Them.

Speaker 5 (01:41:11):
Captain. Sad yeah they Were doing monday nights after, The
nights monday.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Nights after ye and it was after football after you.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
KNOW what, i mean like after the. Football, season yeah okay.
After season back then people went Out for. Monday football
it would be Packed. Every.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
MONDAY yeah i think THAT'S Where I Matt. Ray TORRES
yeah dj back In.

Speaker 11 (01:41:33):
The.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Daylians, YEAH wow i didn't know that you were hustling. Back,
THEN yeah i.

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
WAS it i.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
Was it most of the Clubs in roster good at.

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
That, time yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
THE day i bet it was. For that, all right
we'll close it Out For.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Matt reese get out TO be tv, with fire pizza
and grill on the Mall At, grease range especially now
that football's back over fifty, ten specials.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
Get those that was that a false?

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
Special slider you were so, Right right but do the
brunch and stick around for the one. O'clock game bill's jets. This,
week yeah it should be a pretty good One. For laura,
Who uh they're gonna be, All right you're, Gonna survive.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
You're gonna get. A vibrator i.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Can't believe you're wearing the. Choke chase.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
So where is that choke? Chain bin that's what we want.
TO know i, Don't KNOW mark i got is different than.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Be Right we're kevin who saw bear hit On.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
The Throughway I'm. Bill moran we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
You tomorrow
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