September 7, 2025 • 36 mins
Since Billified launched on December 5, 2022, listeners have been asking for this episode—and it’s finally here. Bill welcomes Mark The Soldier, and Rich “The Bull” Gaenzler pay tribute to their longtime friend and mentor, Brother Wease, a legendary radio personality from Rochester, New York, and a member of the National Radio Hall of Fame.
Just last week, Wease shocked his audience by abruptly announcing his retirement following a major format change at his station, shifting from talk radio to rock. In this episode, Bill, Mark The Soldier and Bull share personal stories from their time working with Brother Wease, reflect on his national influence, and break down the factors that may have contributed to his sudden decision to step away.
From the highs of radio’s golden era to the challenges that led to the decline of FM formats, this conversation dives deep into the inside world of broadcasting—and how those changes ultimately led to the creation of this very podcast.
Buckle up—This is the episode you’ve been waiting for, and the story is finally yours to hear.
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Just last week, Wease shocked his audience by abruptly announcing his retirement following a major format change at his station, shifting from talk radio to rock. In this episode, Bill, Mark The Soldier and Bull share personal stories from their time working with Brother Wease, reflect on his national influence, and break down the factors that may have contributed to his sudden decision to step away.
From the highs of radio’s golden era to the challenges that led to the decline of FM formats, this conversation dives deep into the inside world of broadcasting—and how those changes ultimately led to the creation of this very podcast.
Buckle up—This is the episode you’ve been waiting for, and the story is finally yours to hear.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,
mix in some vodka. Color a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots Gee Brahm. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, hello and welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank you for telling
a friend, Tell your friends. This is where we're talking
about stuff. Stuff. That's right. There was a big change
in Rochester radio. I have gotten numerous calls and numerous questions,
and people want me to talk about behind the scenes,
(00:55):
what really happened, And I'll tell you. I'll give it
to you as straight as I can from my opinion,
of course, and remember that's going to be my opinion.
But one of the big changes is that Brother Wes
announced that he was retiring. Now, when a guy like
Weez retires, it's normally they have a parade or a year. Yeah,
I'm retiring any year, you got it. You got it.
(01:16):
The soldiers here. But I thought it would be fun
to kind of just talk about and talk to people
who had spent significant time with Brother Weez, and one
of those people is rich the Bolgenzler, who was a
part of Weis's show in the early nineties, right bowl,
and then you went to Afternoons in like ninety four.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean that I'm too old to remember my
chronology in my timeline, and my resume is not updated,
so it should be. But yeah, no, I started in
like eighty nine and worked with we'z probably for three
or four years through Winton Road. So I was Wee'z's
producer for a while before I started doing Afternoons with
BJ And Yeah, I mean, Weez was. It's odd because
(02:04):
I wanted to be more of an air quote DJ,
and I kind of became that, and then it became
more of a personality as my career evolved, right, So
like Heino was like my guy, Like Caina was like
my DJ mentor right right, And then I got in
with Weez, who was you know, even that early in
his career, he was.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Already pretty legendary.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I mean he was setting the mark, you know, five
six years into the business and only maybe you know
that amount of time into doing mornings. He was set
in the tone everybody was following. No one could compete
with him. I mean it was pretty ridiculous. So why
not you know, attached my horse to that, or my Yeah,
I attached my horse to that and then or my cart
(02:46):
to that. And then you know, I was that guy
and you were probably that too when you were interning
that you did whatever was asked, like you were there
all day, every day. It didn't matter how many credits
you were getting or how many hours you were supposed
to put in. You were there a this is what
you wanted to do and be because you wanted to
learn and see.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It was really freaking fun. It was. It was fun.
And I yeah, I mean I I got in doing weekend.
It's my senior year at Fisher, so that's how I
got in there. And I was I had I had
been on the radio in my hometown and stuff, but
I had heard of weez because the morning guy there
(03:25):
just worshiped him, thought he was the greatest thing. And
I just to interject for a second, Dave Kine posted
a thing on Facebook yesterday that I thought really summed
up Weeze, maybe better than anybody has. It says you
were the unlikeliest and most uncommon and unconventional radio personality
(03:45):
in Western New York and elsewhere. You've enjoyed unprecedented and
unparalleled success. Your legacy includes unmatched and unbelievable run of
consistent rating success that continued for years. Whether it was
The Brother Weeze Morning Circus, Radio Free Wiez, or The
Wei Show, your broadcasts were uncompromising, unbridled, unpredictable, and uncensored.
(04:06):
Your charitable efforts and your unwaving support and promotion of
Rochester will never go unrecognized. And now it's time to unplug.
I thought, but I mean I thought that unconventional. I
mean he was uncommon and unconventional. You did not hear
guys like Weez on the radio.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, you didn't hear guys like him with his voice.
I mean, he was just not Yeah, he was just
not a radio guy at all. He just talked. He
was the epitome of talk radio. He was what talk
radio sort of became, right, I mean absolutely, talk radio
was primarily news talk until you know, you started event
(04:45):
well obviously Stern was in the mix, right, but you know,
there were only a handful of people doing that kind
of radio, and he really kind of sort of set
the tone for what was sort of, in my opinion,
the heyday of radio for about I don't know twenty
years ish until corporate America got involved and ruined it.
But yeah, I mean he he did it out of
(05:08):
his own He did it his own way, He did
his own things, He did his own way.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
To unbridled is a great term for him.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, because as his produce, like, it was great being
a air quote personality, sports guy or whatever you wanted
to be to me, to be the kid that you
beat up, it didn't matter whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That was great, But producing him was tough.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Producing him was really tough because you know, you thought
along the way, having spent some time with him, that
you kind of knew his flow and what he liked
and didn't and what might fit in not And in
doing that, you know you and having that knowledge, you
would be like, well, I think this would be great here,
this would be a great interview here, this would.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Be a great bit.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Blah blah blah blah blah. And numerous times he's like, raw.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
What are we doing here? What? What? Why? Why do
we said that? Who is this? But good? Good, good good?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, like all that and the other thing too
with we'ves, which was pretty famous for him and for
a lot of the best people media. They literally just
literally I'll call it this set but the studio walk
in and go right. I mean he was, he was,
and somebody else posted this recently. He was a storyteller,
end of story.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yes, he was a storyteller.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yes, And the stories that he had to tell were
absolutely remarkable.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And the times that he lived in were so.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Applicable to the times he broadcasting, if that makes sense.
So yes, he shared similar memories to so many of
his listeners. And then I think he also, you know,
day to day, every day was every day was different,
going back to you know, you're taught in radio, especially
nowadays when you have that kind of a show. Dad
(06:43):
would called benchmark bits right where you're doing something every
single day at the same time, right because your listeners
are expecting it. But if I took one thing away
from Wee's, it was no do that, like do something
different every day, so people are they don't know what
to expect. And for that reason, I always thought that
was a better approach.
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(09:11):
brain but we thought very. Similarly yeah you know WHAT i.
Mean we approached stuff, SIMILARLY uh and maybe that was
just sort of the THE i don't, KNOW i don't
know what that, was but we we, did and then
there were times WHERE i could clean it. Up But
we's had it in his contract that If Stan maine
ever left the radio, station he would become THE uh operations.
(09:35):
Manager mark he became the operations. Manager AND i used
to have to go to the meetings because it Was
wee's and there and they. Go THE gm at the,
time who has passed, Away Al Casaza al came to
me and, SAID i need you to come into these meetings,
well and you, know we'll represent the show a little
(09:58):
bit more Because we's would come in. Right let me
tell you about the mother fuck you, know all that
stuff AND. Uh later this, Week i'm gonna HAVE bj shay.
On BUT i want to DO bj more from a
radio perspective as a, whole BECAUSE bj certainly HAS uh
more radio stations and high profile and bigger cities you
(10:20):
know around. Him but give me some stories from your,
day BECAUSE i do REMEMBER i remember that time when
you were there and it was On Winton. Road you
guys were in the phone screening room a lot AND
i put on so much, weight like after, college BECAUSE
i would go in every day and eat and. EAT
(10:43):
i Did BoA's. Bagels it was every day was bagels and.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Cream cheese lunches in AND i, FUCK i just ate
and ate because.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You, were you, know AND i. Ate AND i remember
going home and, uh somebody saying to me in a
very polite, way you, know, hey you're looking rather. PROSPEROUS
i think it was the term you're looking, prosperous which
means fat in a.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Way that right say fuck.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You you, know but you HAD i mean you were there
for some of the. Core, HEY i.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Was there the, HEYDAY i. Believe, YEAH i was. There,
YEAH i was there During Howard. Stern HOW i was
there during The Howard stern. Era, Yes so every day
was different every day and you couldn't walk in there
and you forget to. Mention and this is something to
be proud, of especially you being a. Producer there were no. Writers,
no there were no. Writers all these shows that you listened,
(11:38):
to and that Includes rover and. Stuff you have three
to six. Writers stern has six has six, writers you
know WHAT i?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Mean he. Does this is all, true by the, way
And stern's been much more open about. That if you
listen how he'll, Mention, oh so and so she's a
writer for the, show, Right and it's funny because you're absolutely.
Right there were no. Writers it was just organic. Stuff
AND i don't know If rover has. THEM i, know
LIKE i know there are sixteen people behind the scenes
(12:11):
for The Seacrest. Show holy, shit, yeah because there's so
many people that need to chop it up because they
run into. Middays in some markets they do this so
they repackage it. All but he has sixteen, people AND
i think two of them are. Writers. Wow, yeah that's.
Crazy and he makes seventy, million does make seventy, million you?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Know and he you, know and and then he has
to Do wheel Of fortune And American. Idol, yeah they
freaking guy hus, says so much fucking money he.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Does but, UH i but you're right that there was no.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Writers it was it was you would walk in and
he'd Have we'd have an agenda. Farm there'd be an agenda,
farm cut out stuff from, Newspaper Cindy wood and stuff like.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That he wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Use he would start off in the morning when you start,
out he would start off reading stuff like.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That, yeah but.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Then once the show kicked, in he would it would
just be what was going, on who was who, called
or what the guests were and stuff like. That some
of the worst guests were the best. Guests what do you, Mean,
Well i'll never forget When Scott Van duson produced the.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Show, okay but that was down when he was. Downtown,
no that was still.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
When, okay, yeah because they because they wanted me to
produce the, show AND i said, No, OKAY i said,
No and he's just, like, bro why don't you want
to produce the? SHOW i go like, THIS i, go
you will KILL i, go you will beat me?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Up you beat me? Up NOW i was an assistant.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Producer, no, no, no, no he, goes you got. This
you got to say absolutely. Not AND i knew THAT
i was eventually, going you, KNOW i was going to
go into sales or our marketing. JOB i KNEW i
wasn't going to stay in the radio in the radio
end of. It So, Scott scott gets a guy, on
(13:59):
did SOME i forgot that he was the first person
to use a portable microphone or something like.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That that's The. Yeah not only did weese kill all the,
news of.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Course he killed the guy who Was it was, Odd,
yeah and it turned into one of the, best one
of the best because.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
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(15:52):
wife who's is really truly his partner in life right
during wonderful for. WEEKS i don't Think i've ever seen
somebody JUST i, mean she just went through hell for that,
guy because we used to make so much fucking fun
Because we's had a very very rare form of cancer
(16:14):
diagel faar and geo, cancer AND i was producing his
show during that, time and we did all these things
and to raise money And Wee's cares and a lot
of people a lot of concern and. Stuff and there
were some really like uncomfortable moments where we'z talked about
(16:35):
how bad the radiation was because he was just going
through radiation and they basically had to zap his face every.
Day and they found a doctor In New. York most
people do not survive this. Cancer they found a doctor
In New york and he went down. There he lived
In New York city and he broadcasts from there as
much as he physically was able to, do and we
(16:55):
would do the rest of the. Show and there was
one day where he gets and he, GOES i JUST
i just want to give. UP i don't want To
and then somebody called in AND i don't know who it,
was was someone that was like. ALWAYS i think it
might have Been Mary. Flood does that name SOUND i
think it Was Mary flood who calls up and, Goes, weeze,
honey if you don't want to do, it you, know give,
(17:17):
up blah, blah all of a, sudden man out of.
Nowhere that's. Right. Yeah So, sammy the kids are so
like they're still In rochester And, sammy who's now a,
lawyer he was just a little. Guy so, uh weeze.
Goes mary calls. Up she gets on the air AND
i REMEMBER i remember sitting, there LIKE i was sitting
(17:39):
behind his desk in his in his studio and he's
talking about. This she, says you, know we's if you
want to just give, up it's. Okay we all love.
You it's really really hard fucking dor. REED i, remember she's,
YEAH i, remember don't you ever blah blah blah blah.
Blah then all of a, Sudden, sammy somehow somebody Gets
(18:00):
sammy to. Call he's just a little. Boy it Gets
sammy to call and he's, like, uh, daddy don't give,
up don't you? Know on the on the, air and
it was like one of Them i'm telling you when
you talk about things that this he. Was so he
was REALITY tv on the, radio, right he was more
that you who else was doing? That? Right it was
(18:21):
just natural and real and all. That BUT I, God
i'll never forget. That there was a time Where, sammy
WHEN i was producing the, show got left on the
school bus that he fell, asleep.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Which, Happens uh he fell, Asleep, yeah because you were
a bus. Monitor, yeah and you if you if you,
don't if you fucking if the kid's asleeping a, bus
now you're getting your ass. Fired there's no offens butts,
about there's no excuse you walk up and down that
damn freaking.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Bus so, he, Uh sammy falls asleep on the. Bus
AND i think this might be during like this school
day BECAUSE i get a call in the middle of the,
day they're looking For Alan levin and they can't find
him or, whatever and It's sammy's on the BUT i
guess the bus. Ter everyone went home to his house
(19:06):
for lunch or, something And sammy opens the, door gets
out of the bus and they can't find like it
was all this. Stuff and this is WHERE i THINK
i changed my whole philosophy on, kids because and it.
Did my guys were really little THAT i don't think
(19:28):
they were even in school. Yet so WE i call
AND i think if he's At mama's on his Dy he's, like, ah,
bro so, What he'll be, fine all, RIGHT i got. It,
Yeah So dorian goes like she's flipping the fuck out
everybody to the next day you hear the whole, story,
right and he's just like and it made me. Realize
(19:52):
AND i said this the other day to somebody in
terms of like trauma for, ME i was molested as a.
KID i, go one of the worst things is everybody
else's reaction to. It like as a, kid, right you
see your like you if your mother ever found out
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(20:13):
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i was like we was like, yeah AND i was like.
(20:34):
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(20:55):
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right you're.
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i think they knew that this was coming to an
End december thirty first of this. YEAR i. BELIEVE i
Think i'm not part of these. Things so, again SO
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someone told me it was the thirteenth station in the.
MARKET i don't know what demo they were looking, at
but that's WHAT i.
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Do we're going to go to music BECAUSE a it's,
cheaper Right AND i understand when people, GO i, Mean
(25:09):
stan mainsat. Here he programmed radio. Stations he's, like, man
YouTube music does an unbelievable. Job he, GOES i get
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programmed so, well he. GOES i don't know why anybody
would listen to radio, now but there are people who.
Do they're just there are there are people out there to.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Do but not many. Anymore when you can go to
a podcast and you can listen to a podcast is
a stand seeing it's, like you, know.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well he was saying music, wise he's saying like music.
Right so now they decide that they're going to do.
This now when did they decide they were going to do.
This they decided they were going to do this probably
four to six months, ago because there's so many layers of, this,
(25:54):
right and THEN i guarantee YOU i will, ABSOLUTELY i
will put money on the fact that they did what's
called a music test to find out where can we fit.
Rock don't forget you've got a somewhat of an alternative
rock station and you've got a classic rock station already.
Here you're looking for a lane that it's going to
(26:15):
be somewhat. Unique so they do what's called a music.
Test maybe somebody listening to the podcast was part of.
IT i don't know how they do it. Anymore it
used to be that they would call out and, say,
hey can you take be part of a music survey
for a radio, station and then they would say if
this song were, played and they would just play the,
hook would you listen or would you push the? Button
(26:38):
and then that's how they decided what they were. Playing
this is going back a, Ways but that'll explain to
you kind of what a music test. Is so in
order for that to be, done it takes. Time so
these guys knew they were making this move a long time,
Ago i'll say Spring. May they knew they were doing.
This they also knew who they were, keeping and they
(27:00):
were not keeping because some people have remained and some
people have remained because one of the big things in
radio today as a personality is. Endorsements what money is
tied to you as a, personality, right makes? Sense makes?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Sense so far keep gone the goal.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
The goal for this if your a. Personality AND i
don't think they've ever talked about it like. EVER i.
DON'T i think if you ask any personality who was
in the building With Brother weis they never talk about.
This but the guys in WHEN i went in to
interview IN la and and WHEN i was doing some
national stuff on those, meetings they would, go if you're
(27:45):
at the local level doing, stuff you want to make
sure you're bringing in three times your salary to remain.
Relevant it's basically kind of keep yourself right in. There
so obviously people weren't just bringing in the. Money AND
i said this the other. Day business is a cold.
(28:08):
Thing business has no. Emotion we. Do we have an
attachment to these. People we liked, them we like their,
stories were like listening to, them but not as much.
Anymore the ratings weren't as. Good they just weren't. There
and the big guy in town who ushered in this,
format AND i used to, say you, know you wouldn't
(28:29):
have an all talk station if it wasn't for Brother
weez who made the morning show. Work, yes you. Know
and then they put In kimberly And beck in the
afternoon and they ended up blowing themselves. Up but and
then they were playing music in, between and they came
To john AND i and, go how about you guys
going there and do a talk? Show and we did
and we got it to number, one, right that was
the number one Talk that was the number one show
(28:51):
in the middle of the day with adults twenty five
to fifty. Four and, so you, know it was working
then it. Wasn't and that's why this change has. Happened
we said a lot, here we. DID i hope it makes,
sense it does make.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
SENSE i think it makes. SENSE i think it makes.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Sense And i'm very nervous as to what we well
on the full Next but, well there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
THAT i, mean if you're, nervous you, can you know you.
Can you don't have to play the whole. Thing so oh,
NO i would play the whole. Thing, okay, yeah don't
you THINK i think. SO i don't think you say anything,
wrong NOW i.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Don't i'm not saying anything. Wrong i'm just saying what
happened led to? It and and, uh AND i think
now when you look at, it IF i IF i
saw the lineup for the, station they're trying to protect
people do who did have big endorsement, money? Right? Right
so So john has big endorsement, money, yes behind.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Him.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Uh and so they gave him a talk show on
the sports station and he'll do afternoons and they can
keep that revenue, there, Right and and.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
They put him back where he. Started, yeah you, KNOW i,
mean he's it just it's just what he.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Gets he gets do what he loves and what he's great.
At and then other people who just they didn't have
a place for are no longer, there and other people
are forced into places and maybe they don't want to.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
BE i know, one he's my good. FRIEND i love this, Guy.
Dino do you know hates?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Country? Oh what's he? DOING i heard he's in the country.
Station i'm.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Sorry, oh, man he used to drill on me about liking,
country AND i know his wife loves, country so he maybe,
knows probably knows all the.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Music maybe that'll be a saving you.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
KNOW i, mean the guy's a fucking hell of a.
SALESMAN i mean he did WHY i brought him. Over
he met pretty much SELLS i mean anything. Anything people
love the.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Guy he's a.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Staple but, YEAH i heard he's going to the country.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Station, WELL i, LOOK i hope he. IS i like
a lot of those people. THERE i like all of.
THEM i, do AND i don't. Care, uh it's not my,
world you. Know it doesn't affect, me doesn't affect, me
AND i JUST i feel bad for them because those
kind of changes are difficult to, navigate especially when you
(31:08):
have no. Control and the only ADVICE i can give
you when you have no control is focus on what
you can. Control you can control how you act in the.
Hallways you can control who you're bitching to and who
you're not bitching, to because there will be a lot of.
Bitching be careful who you're doing that TO. Uh and
you can CONTROL uh finding another job if you want,
(31:29):
to or you, know making decisions that are going to
be right for. You you have control of all. That
what you don't have control of right now is what
they did with the radio. Station there are no feelings in.
Business you can't control, that so it don't focus on.
It this change has been, made is there? Positive try
(31:49):
to find the good aspects of where you. Are focus on,
those and if you want to, exit find your. Exit
you know What i'm, Saying AND i don't mean that
in a negative. WAY i Just i'm saying that that's
the only way you can do, it because otherwise you
will be in a bitter spiral and you'll take that
ship home to your family or to the people you care,
about and you're going to be a piece of shit
to them because why because why when you die when
(32:14):
it's all. Over, Yeah but you understand What i'm. Saying
AND i only know that Because i've lived. IT i lived.
It what AM i gonna? Do AM i going to
go be a fucking? Dickhead fuck? YOU i live that.
WAY i was miserable during that time WHEN i did.
That it doesn't, work and it doesn't help you when
it doesn't make paths. Forward find your path. Forward you,
(32:36):
can you, can it'll just be a harder mess to
go that. Way stay your. Course and if you and
if you're a guy Like dino and you're a talented
sales guy and a talented on, air there's probably something
somewhere if you don't like where you. Are that's All i'm.
Saying i'm. NOT i hope Everything i'm saying is as
neutral as it can be BECAUSE i don'tk.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
So, people you, know but people will say. Things make,
it you. Know one more THING i want to add
before YOU i, know we gotta get off football starts. Soon.
Yeah i'm always asked BECAUSE i worked at p X y. Two,
yeah And i'm always, Asked, oh you must have when
when you went to p X. Y i must have
been great working with With spizzano Over. Weez And i'm
(33:20):
gonna tell you SOMETHING i. Love scott's a friend of
mine before this gets, Out scott. WAS i actually found
it easier to work With weez THAN i.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Did.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Scott scott's a perfectionist and he and things need to
go his his way at all, times and that's why
he's been that's why he's been on the radio for forty.
Years But wize was kind of like, easier you, know
you could kind of like reason with him at times
and stuff like. That but that was Always that's always
been My that's always been my answer is BECAUSE i actually,
(33:50):
THOUGHT i, MEAN i worked With we's for six. YEARS
i stayed at p X y for a, summer so you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Know one More wei song to wrap it. Up, yeah
this is. One REMEMBER i Remember eddie From New york
would come in and say, Yeah Edie cano would come,
In oh, God billy would Sing, Ye billy could. Sing.
YES i. KNOW i Saw billy at was It we's
(34:17):
Wedding he got up and saying yes, yeah because he
played he was just isn't a.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Band well he helped the band, out but.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
He'd go on and do a couple of.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
SONGS i just, think, great to my, opinion it's. Done,
yeah it's. Done you, know we're kind of putting it to.
Rest you, know it's a good thing that we all get.
To we all are already, gether you, know kind of
keeping keeping it. Going BUT i don't, KNOW i want
(34:46):
to Say, thanksuise you.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Know, yes, yes thank, you thank. You, yeah thank you
for being welcoming let me be part of your. Show
i'm sure you feel the same way as.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You're taking a guy that had no had no radio
experience and him on your.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Show and you, know thanks For WHEN i would put
together BITS i was doing, Afternoons i'd be home with my,
son who's now going to turn twenty. Five, Jesus i'd
be home with him BEFORE i took him in to
daycare BECAUSE i was going to do, afternoons AND i
would hear things on the We show AND i would
create a bit about. IT i wouldn't use my own.
VOICE i get somebody. Else but when When Lucky nahum
(35:21):
made A christmas Ce, day he came up to play,
it AND i put Together Crepital Records, present AND i
mean and all you heard was We ALL i did
was cut up sections of the. Show weez came up
to me at a party and just gave me a
big hug and kiss and Goes. Bro that was the.
Best and he was always so kind to me prior and, acknowledged,
(35:44):
well you were kind of his.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Protege you were is that the right?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Word or he was? Mine he's your? Person oh, NO
i was his. Protege, YEAH i GUESS i think he
just was always kind to me and, welcoming and even
even WHEN i Produced Show, Goes, bro it was so
mad at, you and THEN i realized that's what you were, Doing.
Brah AND i would always, say, yeah it's, okay we're all,
good we're all. Good uh, so, yeah thank you. Waves, yeah,
(36:08):
yeah there you. Go. Folks that's, It AND i would
love to hear what other people have to. Say you
can always leave messages and don't be a. Dickhead five
two o six eighty eight sixty. Six you can Email
Bill moran At Bill Moran productions dot, com, yeah OR
B Moran Productions Dot. Yeah that's. It that's, it all,
(36:28):
right all, right see you. Tomorrow, yeah we'll be here
tomorrow
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, hello and welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank you for telling
a friend, Tell your friends. This is where we're talking
about stuff. Stuff. That's right. There was a big change
in Rochester radio. I have gotten numerous calls and numerous questions,
and people want me to talk about behind the scenes,
(00:55):
what really happened, And I'll tell you. I'll give it
to you as straight as I can from my opinion,
of course, and remember that's going to be my opinion.
But one of the big changes is that Brother Wes
announced that he was retiring. Now, when a guy like
Weez retires, it's normally they have a parade or a year. Yeah,
I'm retiring any year, you got it. You got it.
(01:16):
The soldiers here. But I thought it would be fun
to kind of just talk about and talk to people
who had spent significant time with Brother Weez, and one
of those people is rich the Bolgenzler, who was a
part of Weis's show in the early nineties, right bowl,
and then you went to Afternoons in like ninety four.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean that I'm too old to remember my
chronology in my timeline, and my resume is not updated,
so it should be. But yeah, no, I started in
like eighty nine and worked with we'z probably for three
or four years through Winton Road. So I was Wee'z's
producer for a while before I started doing Afternoons with
BJ And Yeah, I mean, Weez was. It's odd because
(02:04):
I wanted to be more of an air quote DJ,
and I kind of became that, and then it became
more of a personality as my career evolved, right, So
like Heino was like my guy, Like Caina was like
my DJ mentor right right, And then I got in
with Weez, who was you know, even that early in
his career, he was.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Already pretty legendary.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I mean he was setting the mark, you know, five
six years into the business and only maybe you know
that amount of time into doing mornings. He was set
in the tone everybody was following. No one could compete
with him. I mean it was pretty ridiculous. So why
not you know, attached my horse to that, or my Yeah,
I attached my horse to that and then or my cart
(02:46):
to that. And then you know, I was that guy
and you were probably that too when you were interning
that you did whatever was asked, like you were there
all day, every day. It didn't matter how many credits
you were getting or how many hours you were supposed
to put in. You were there a this is what
you wanted to do and be because you wanted to
learn and see.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It was really freaking fun. It was. It was fun.
And I yeah, I mean I I got in doing weekend.
It's my senior year at Fisher, so that's how I
got in there. And I was I had I had
been on the radio in my hometown and stuff, but
I had heard of weez because the morning guy there
(03:25):
just worshiped him, thought he was the greatest thing. And
I just to interject for a second, Dave Kine posted
a thing on Facebook yesterday that I thought really summed
up Weeze, maybe better than anybody has. It says you
were the unlikeliest and most uncommon and unconventional radio personality
(03:45):
in Western New York and elsewhere. You've enjoyed unprecedented and
unparalleled success. Your legacy includes unmatched and unbelievable run of
consistent rating success that continued for years. Whether it was
The Brother Weeze Morning Circus, Radio Free Wiez, or The
Wei Show, your broadcasts were uncompromising, unbridled, unpredictable, and uncensored.
(04:06):
Your charitable efforts and your unwaving support and promotion of
Rochester will never go unrecognized. And now it's time to unplug.
I thought, but I mean I thought that unconventional. I
mean he was uncommon and unconventional. You did not hear
guys like Weez on the radio.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, you didn't hear guys like him with his voice.
I mean, he was just not Yeah, he was just
not a radio guy at all. He just talked. He
was the epitome of talk radio. He was what talk
radio sort of became, right, I mean absolutely, talk radio
was primarily news talk until you know, you started event
(04:45):
well obviously Stern was in the mix, right, but you know,
there were only a handful of people doing that kind
of radio, and he really kind of sort of set
the tone for what was sort of, in my opinion,
the heyday of radio for about I don't know twenty
years ish until corporate America got involved and ruined it.
But yeah, I mean he he did it out of
(05:08):
his own He did it his own way, He did
his own things, He did his own way.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
To unbridled is a great term for him.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, because as his produce, like, it was great being
a air quote personality, sports guy or whatever you wanted
to be to me, to be the kid that you
beat up, it didn't matter whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
That was great, But producing him was tough.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Producing him was really tough because you know, you thought
along the way, having spent some time with him, that
you kind of knew his flow and what he liked
and didn't and what might fit in not And in
doing that, you know you and having that knowledge, you
would be like, well, I think this would be great here,
this would be a great interview here, this would.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Be a great bit.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Blah blah blah blah blah. And numerous times he's like, raw.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
What are we doing here? What? What? Why? Why do
we said that? Who is this? But good? Good, good good?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, like all that and the other thing too
with we'ves, which was pretty famous for him and for
a lot of the best people media. They literally just
literally I'll call it this set but the studio walk
in and go right. I mean he was, he was,
and somebody else posted this recently. He was a storyteller,
end of story.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yes, he was a storyteller.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yes, And the stories that he had to tell were
absolutely remarkable.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And the times that he lived in were so.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Applicable to the times he broadcasting, if that makes sense.
So yes, he shared similar memories to so many of
his listeners. And then I think he also, you know,
day to day, every day was every day was different,
going back to you know, you're taught in radio, especially
nowadays when you have that kind of a show. Dad
(06:43):
would called benchmark bits right where you're doing something every
single day at the same time, right because your listeners
are expecting it. But if I took one thing away
from Wee's, it was no do that, like do something
different every day, so people are they don't know what
to expect. And for that reason, I always thought that
was a better approach.
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(09:11):
brain but we thought very. Similarly yeah you know WHAT i.
Mean we approached stuff, SIMILARLY uh and maybe that was
just sort of the THE i don't, KNOW i don't
know what that, was but we we, did and then
there were times WHERE i could clean it. Up But
we's had it in his contract that If Stan maine
ever left the radio, station he would become THE uh operations.
(09:35):
Manager mark he became the operations. Manager AND i used
to have to go to the meetings because it Was
wee's and there and they. Go THE gm at the,
time who has passed, Away Al Casaza al came to
me and, SAID i need you to come into these meetings,
well and you, know we'll represent the show a little
(09:58):
bit more Because we's would come in. Right let me
tell you about the mother fuck you, know all that
stuff AND. Uh later this, Week i'm gonna HAVE bj shay.
On BUT i want to DO bj more from a
radio perspective as a, whole BECAUSE bj certainly HAS uh
more radio stations and high profile and bigger cities you
(10:20):
know around. Him but give me some stories from your,
day BECAUSE i do REMEMBER i remember that time when
you were there and it was On Winton. Road you
guys were in the phone screening room a lot AND
i put on so much, weight like after, college BECAUSE
i would go in every day and eat and. EAT
(10:43):
i Did BoA's. Bagels it was every day was bagels and.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Cream cheese lunches in AND i, FUCK i just ate
and ate because.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You, were you, know AND i. Ate AND i remember
going home and, uh somebody saying to me in a
very polite, way you, know, hey you're looking rather. PROSPEROUS
i think it was the term you're looking, prosperous which
means fat in a.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Way that right say fuck.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You you, know but you HAD i mean you were there
for some of the. Core, HEY i.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Was there the, HEYDAY i. Believe, YEAH i was. There,
YEAH i was there During Howard. Stern HOW i was
there during The Howard stern. Era, Yes so every day
was different every day and you couldn't walk in there
and you forget to. Mention and this is something to
be proud, of especially you being a. Producer there were no. Writers,
no there were no. Writers all these shows that you listened,
(11:38):
to and that Includes rover and. Stuff you have three
to six. Writers stern has six has six, writers you
know WHAT i?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Mean he. Does this is all, true by the, way
And stern's been much more open about. That if you
listen how he'll, Mention, oh so and so she's a
writer for the, show, Right and it's funny because you're absolutely.
Right there were no. Writers it was just organic. Stuff
AND i don't know If rover has. THEM i, know
LIKE i know there are sixteen people behind the scenes
(12:11):
for The Seacrest. Show holy, shit, yeah because there's so
many people that need to chop it up because they
run into. Middays in some markets they do this so
they repackage it. All but he has sixteen, people AND
i think two of them are. Writers. Wow, yeah that's.
Crazy and he makes seventy, million does make seventy, million you?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Know and he you, know and and then he has
to Do wheel Of fortune And American. Idol, yeah they
freaking guy hus, says so much fucking money he.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Does but, UH i but you're right that there was no.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Writers it was it was you would walk in and
he'd Have we'd have an agenda. Farm there'd be an agenda,
farm cut out stuff from, Newspaper Cindy wood and stuff like.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That he wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Use he would start off in the morning when you start,
out he would start off reading stuff like.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That, yeah but.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Then once the show kicked, in he would it would
just be what was going, on who was who, called
or what the guests were and stuff like. That some
of the worst guests were the best. Guests what do you, Mean,
Well i'll never forget When Scott Van duson produced the.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Show, okay but that was down when he was. Downtown,
no that was still.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
When, okay, yeah because they because they wanted me to
produce the, show AND i said, No, OKAY i said,
No and he's just, like, bro why don't you want
to produce the? SHOW i go like, THIS i, go
you will KILL i, go you will beat me?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Up you beat me? Up NOW i was an assistant.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Producer, no, no, no, no he, goes you got. This
you got to say absolutely. Not AND i knew THAT
i was eventually, going you, KNOW i was going to
go into sales or our marketing. JOB i KNEW i
wasn't going to stay in the radio in the radio
end of. It So, Scott scott gets a guy, on
(13:59):
did SOME i forgot that he was the first person
to use a portable microphone or something like.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
That that's The. Yeah not only did weese kill all the,
news of.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Course he killed the guy who Was it was, Odd,
yeah and it turned into one of the, best one
of the best because.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
It's, funny right it. Is. YEAH i would say one
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wife who's is really truly his partner in life right
during wonderful for. WEEKS i don't Think i've ever seen
somebody JUST i, mean she just went through hell for that,
guy because we used to make so much fucking fun
Because we's had a very very rare form of cancer
(16:14):
diagel faar and geo, cancer AND i was producing his
show during that, time and we did all these things
and to raise money And Wee's cares and a lot
of people a lot of concern and. Stuff and there
were some really like uncomfortable moments where we'z talked about
(16:35):
how bad the radiation was because he was just going
through radiation and they basically had to zap his face every.
Day and they found a doctor In New. York most
people do not survive this. Cancer they found a doctor
In New york and he went down. There he lived
In New York city and he broadcasts from there as
much as he physically was able to, do and we
(16:55):
would do the rest of the. Show and there was
one day where he gets and he, GOES i JUST
i just want to give. UP i don't want To
and then somebody called in AND i don't know who it,
was was someone that was like. ALWAYS i think it
might have Been Mary. Flood does that name SOUND i
think it Was Mary flood who calls up and, Goes, weeze,
honey if you don't want to do, it you, know give,
(17:17):
up blah, blah all of a, sudden man out of.
Nowhere that's. Right. Yeah So, sammy the kids are so
like they're still In rochester And, sammy who's now a,
lawyer he was just a little. Guy so, uh weeze.
Goes mary calls. Up she gets on the air AND
i REMEMBER i remember sitting, there LIKE i was sitting
(17:39):
behind his desk in his in his studio and he's
talking about. This she, says you, know we's if you
want to just give, up it's. Okay we all love.
You it's really really hard fucking dor. REED i, remember she's,
YEAH i, remember don't you ever blah blah blah blah.
Blah then all of a, Sudden, sammy somehow somebody Gets
(18:00):
sammy to. Call he's just a little. Boy it Gets
sammy to call and he's, like, uh, daddy don't give,
up don't you? Know on the on the, air and
it was like one of Them i'm telling you when
you talk about things that this he. Was so he
was REALITY tv on the, radio, right he was more
that you who else was doing? That? Right it was
(18:21):
just natural and real and all. That BUT I, God
i'll never forget. That there was a time Where, sammy
WHEN i was producing the, show got left on the
school bus that he fell, asleep.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Which, Happens uh he fell, Asleep, yeah because you were
a bus. Monitor, yeah and you if you if you,
don't if you fucking if the kid's asleeping a, bus
now you're getting your ass. Fired there's no offens butts,
about there's no excuse you walk up and down that
damn freaking.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Bus so, he, Uh sammy falls asleep on the. Bus
AND i think this might be during like this school
day BECAUSE i get a call in the middle of the,
day they're looking For Alan levin and they can't find
him or, whatever and It's sammy's on the BUT i
guess the bus. Ter everyone went home to his house
(19:06):
for lunch or, something And sammy opens the, door gets
out of the bus and they can't find like it
was all this. Stuff and this is WHERE i THINK
i changed my whole philosophy on, kids because and it.
Did my guys were really little THAT i don't think
(19:28):
they were even in school. Yet so WE i call
AND i think if he's At mama's on his Dy he's, like, ah,
bro so, What he'll be, fine all, RIGHT i got. It,
Yeah So dorian goes like she's flipping the fuck out
everybody to the next day you hear the whole, story,
right and he's just like and it made me. Realize
(19:52):
AND i said this the other day to somebody in
terms of like trauma for, ME i was molested as a.
KID i, go one of the worst things is everybody
else's reaction to. It like as a, kid, right you
see your like you if your mother ever found out
you were molested by a, babysitter she's probably. Crying the
(20:13):
babysitter's never come. Back you hear your parents angry you
your brain isn't big enough and you're not experienced enough
to process that other Than i'm in trouble OR i
caused my mom to, cry AND i don't want to
be that. Person and it made me, realize don't make
a big deal out of scary shit for. Kids AND
i was like we was like, yeah AND i was like.
(20:34):
Yeah and THEN i remember years, later like something happened
at one of my kids' schools where the swat teams
outside the door And i'm just, like it's, okay everything's going,
fine and everybody else is flipping, out AND i really.
SAW i think that incident sort of changed my thinking on,
life AND i, go you, know maybe we make too
big a. Deal like if a kid falls when my
(20:55):
kids were, little and they would, fall instead of oh my,
god are you, Okay i'd be, like it's not, buddy you're,
right you're.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
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i think they knew that this was coming to an
End december thirty first of this. YEAR i. BELIEVE i
Think i'm not part of these. Things so, again SO
(24:04):
i think the rest of the, station the ratings were
not good. Anymore For, talk it just wasn't doing. Well
someone told me it was the thirteenth station in the.
MARKET i don't know what demo they were looking, at
but that's WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Was and there's a bunch of different demos in the only.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Right BUT i, mean if you're thirteenth in the they
do have a demo that's twelve. Plus that isn't. Good
you want to at, least you know What i'm, Saying
you want to be. Somewhere but, anyway so the ratings
weren't good and so therefore the revenue isn't. Good so
now the company has to say what do we? Do
and it's not locally. Owned it is an iHeartRadio. Station
(24:42):
it is an enormous company with, many, many many. Layers
any kind of change that they're gonna do is signed
off on by many different guys at many different. Levels
it's an enormous. Company so what they do, is, hey
we want to make a. Change, okay what are we gonna.
Do we're going to go to music BECAUSE a it's,
cheaper Right AND i understand when people, GO i, Mean
(25:09):
stan mainsat. Here he programmed radio. Stations he's, like, man
YouTube music does an unbelievable. Job he, GOES i get
the oh wow, FACTOR i get all of. It it's
programmed so, well he. GOES i don't know why anybody
would listen to radio, now but there are people who.
Do they're just there are there are people out there to.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Do but not many. Anymore when you can go to
a podcast and you can listen to a podcast is
a stand seeing it's, like you, know.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well he was saying music, wise he's saying like music.
Right so now they decide that they're going to do.
This now when did they decide they were going to do.
This they decided they were going to do this probably
four to six months, ago because there's so many layers of, this,
(25:54):
right and THEN i guarantee YOU i will, ABSOLUTELY i
will put money on the fact that they did what's
called a music test to find out where can we fit.
Rock don't forget you've got a somewhat of an alternative
rock station and you've got a classic rock station already.
Here you're looking for a lane that it's going to
(26:15):
be somewhat. Unique so they do what's called a music.
Test maybe somebody listening to the podcast was part of.
IT i don't know how they do it. Anymore it
used to be that they would call out and, say,
hey can you take be part of a music survey
for a radio, station and then they would say if
this song were, played and they would just play the,
hook would you listen or would you push the? Button
(26:38):
and then that's how they decided what they were. Playing
this is going back a, Ways but that'll explain to
you kind of what a music test. Is so in
order for that to be, done it takes. Time so
these guys knew they were making this move a long time,
Ago i'll say Spring. May they knew they were doing.
This they also knew who they were, keeping and they
(27:00):
were not keeping because some people have remained and some
people have remained because one of the big things in
radio today as a personality is. Endorsements what money is
tied to you as a, personality, right makes? Sense makes?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Sense so far keep gone the goal.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
The goal for this if your a. Personality AND i
don't think they've ever talked about it like. EVER i.
DON'T i think if you ask any personality who was
in the building With Brother weis they never talk about.
This but the guys in WHEN i went in to
interview IN la and and WHEN i was doing some
national stuff on those, meetings they would, go if you're
(27:45):
at the local level doing, stuff you want to make
sure you're bringing in three times your salary to remain.
Relevant it's basically kind of keep yourself right in. There
so obviously people weren't just bringing in the. Money AND
i said this the other. Day business is a cold.
(28:08):
Thing business has no. Emotion we. Do we have an
attachment to these. People we liked, them we like their,
stories were like listening to, them but not as much.
Anymore the ratings weren't as. Good they just weren't. There
and the big guy in town who ushered in this,
format AND i used to, say you, know you wouldn't
(28:29):
have an all talk station if it wasn't for Brother
weez who made the morning show. Work, yes you. Know
and then they put In kimberly And beck in the
afternoon and they ended up blowing themselves. Up but and
then they were playing music in, between and they came
To john AND i and, go how about you guys
going there and do a talk? Show and we did
and we got it to number, one, right that was
the number one Talk that was the number one show
(28:51):
in the middle of the day with adults twenty five
to fifty. Four and, so you, know it was working
then it. Wasn't and that's why this change has. Happened
we said a lot, here we. DID i hope it makes,
sense it does make.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
SENSE i think it makes. SENSE i think it makes.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Sense And i'm very nervous as to what we well
on the full Next but, well there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
THAT i, mean if you're, nervous you, can you know you.
Can you don't have to play the whole. Thing so oh,
NO i would play the whole. Thing, okay, yeah don't
you THINK i think. SO i don't think you say anything,
wrong NOW i.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Don't i'm not saying anything. Wrong i'm just saying what
happened led to? It and and, uh AND i think
now when you look at, it IF i IF i
saw the lineup for the, station they're trying to protect
people do who did have big endorsement, money? Right? Right
so So john has big endorsement, money, yes behind.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Him.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Uh and so they gave him a talk show on
the sports station and he'll do afternoons and they can
keep that revenue, there, Right and and.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
They put him back where he. Started, yeah you, KNOW i,
mean he's it just it's just what he.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Gets he gets do what he loves and what he's great.
At and then other people who just they didn't have
a place for are no longer, there and other people
are forced into places and maybe they don't want to.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
BE i know, one he's my good. FRIEND i love this, Guy.
Dino do you know hates?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Country? Oh what's he? DOING i heard he's in the country.
Station i'm.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Sorry, oh, man he used to drill on me about liking,
country AND i know his wife loves, country so he maybe,
knows probably knows all the.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Music maybe that'll be a saving you.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
KNOW i, mean the guy's a fucking hell of a.
SALESMAN i mean he did WHY i brought him. Over
he met pretty much SELLS i mean anything. Anything people
love the.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Guy he's a.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Staple but, YEAH i heard he's going to the country.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Station, WELL i, LOOK i hope he. IS i like
a lot of those people. THERE i like all of.
THEM i, do AND i don't. Care, uh it's not my,
world you. Know it doesn't affect, me doesn't affect, me
AND i JUST i feel bad for them because those
kind of changes are difficult to, navigate especially when you
(31:08):
have no. Control and the only ADVICE i can give
you when you have no control is focus on what
you can. Control you can control how you act in the.
Hallways you can control who you're bitching to and who
you're not bitching, to because there will be a lot of.
Bitching be careful who you're doing that TO. Uh and
you can CONTROL uh finding another job if you want,
(31:29):
to or you, know making decisions that are going to
be right for. You you have control of all. That
what you don't have control of right now is what
they did with the radio. Station there are no feelings in.
Business you can't control, that so it don't focus on.
It this change has been, made is there? Positive try
(31:49):
to find the good aspects of where you. Are focus on,
those and if you want to, exit find your. Exit
you know What i'm, Saying AND i don't mean that
in a negative. WAY i Just i'm saying that that's
the only way you can do, it because otherwise you
will be in a bitter spiral and you'll take that
ship home to your family or to the people you care,
about and you're going to be a piece of shit
to them because why because why when you die when
(32:14):
it's all. Over, Yeah but you understand What i'm. Saying
AND i only know that Because i've lived. IT i lived.
It what AM i gonna? Do AM i going to
go be a fucking? Dickhead fuck? YOU i live that.
WAY i was miserable during that time WHEN i did.
That it doesn't, work and it doesn't help you when
it doesn't make paths. Forward find your path. Forward you,
(32:36):
can you, can it'll just be a harder mess to
go that. Way stay your. Course and if you and
if you're a guy Like dino and you're a talented
sales guy and a talented on, air there's probably something
somewhere if you don't like where you. Are that's All i'm.
Saying i'm. NOT i hope Everything i'm saying is as
neutral as it can be BECAUSE i don'tk.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
So, people you, know but people will say. Things make,
it you. Know one more THING i want to add
before YOU i, know we gotta get off football starts. Soon.
Yeah i'm always asked BECAUSE i worked at p X y. Two,
yeah And i'm always, Asked, oh you must have when
when you went to p X. Y i must have
been great working with With spizzano Over. Weez And i'm
(33:20):
gonna tell you SOMETHING i. Love scott's a friend of
mine before this gets, Out scott. WAS i actually found
it easier to work With weez THAN i.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Did.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Scott scott's a perfectionist and he and things need to
go his his way at all, times and that's why
he's been that's why he's been on the radio for forty.
Years But wize was kind of like, easier you, know
you could kind of like reason with him at times
and stuff like. That but that was Always that's always
been My that's always been my answer is BECAUSE i actually,
(33:50):
THOUGHT i, MEAN i worked With we's for six. YEARS
i stayed at p X y for a, summer so you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Know one More wei song to wrap it. Up, yeah
this is. One REMEMBER i Remember eddie From New york
would come in and say, Yeah Edie cano would come,
In oh, God billy would Sing, Ye billy could. Sing.
YES i. KNOW i Saw billy at was It we's
(34:17):
Wedding he got up and saying yes, yeah because he
played he was just isn't a.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Band well he helped the band, out but.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
He'd go on and do a couple of.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
SONGS i just, think, great to my, opinion it's. Done,
yeah it's. Done you, know we're kind of putting it to.
Rest you, know it's a good thing that we all get.
To we all are already, gether you, know kind of
keeping keeping it. Going BUT i don't, KNOW i want
(34:46):
to Say, thanksuise you.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Know, yes, yes thank, you thank. You, yeah thank you
for being welcoming let me be part of your. Show
i'm sure you feel the same way as.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You're taking a guy that had no had no radio
experience and him on your.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Show and you, know thanks For WHEN i would put
together BITS i was doing, Afternoons i'd be home with my,
son who's now going to turn twenty. Five, Jesus i'd
be home with him BEFORE i took him in to
daycare BECAUSE i was going to do, afternoons AND i
would hear things on the We show AND i would
create a bit about. IT i wouldn't use my own.
VOICE i get somebody. Else but when When Lucky nahum
(35:21):
made A christmas Ce, day he came up to play,
it AND i put Together Crepital Records, present AND i
mean and all you heard was We ALL i did
was cut up sections of the. Show weez came up
to me at a party and just gave me a
big hug and kiss and Goes. Bro that was the.
Best and he was always so kind to me prior and, acknowledged,
(35:44):
well you were kind of his.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Protege you were is that the right?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Word or he was? Mine he's your? Person oh, NO
i was his. Protege, YEAH i GUESS i think he
just was always kind to me and, welcoming and even
even WHEN i Produced Show, Goes, bro it was so
mad at, you and THEN i realized that's what you were, Doing.
Brah AND i would always, say, yeah it's, okay we're all,
good we're all. Good uh, so, yeah thank you. Waves, yeah,
(36:08):
yeah there you. Go. Folks that's, It AND i would
love to hear what other people have to. Say you
can always leave messages and don't be a. Dickhead five
two o six eighty eight sixty. Six you can Email
Bill moran At Bill Moran productions dot, com, yeah OR
B Moran Productions Dot. Yeah that's. It that's, it all,
(36:28):
right all, right see you. Tomorrow, yeah we'll be here
tomorrow
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