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August 14, 2025 103 mins
From the very first joke, Dan sets the tone for a lively and thought-provoking episode of Billified: The Bill Moran Podcast. Bill and Dan dive deep into how language has evolved—what we can say, what we can’t, and why some people seem to get a pass while others don’t. Bill recalls a 2007 Maxim magazine article naming a famous actress the “unsexiest woman alive,” reflecting on how cruelty in media was far more accepted back then.

The conversation heats up as Dan passionately defends his viewpoint (which Bill doesn’t entirely share), leading to hilarious and revealing stories from Bill’s old radio days—stuff you could never get away with now (and probably shouldn’t have then).

Bill also plays a clip from Taylor Swift’s recent appearance on Travis and Jason Kelce’s New Heights podcast that eerily resembles something Bill himself has said, sparking laughs and debate.
On the health side, you’ll hear a dermatologist explain the surprisingly dangerous area of your face where you should never pop zits, plus a holistic doctor’s unusual (and possibly overdone) remedy for her medical fears.

Sports fans won’t want to miss the breakdown of Hard Knocks episode two, and the big Buffalo Bills news—James Cook’s new deal. Bill shares audio from NFL Network’s Kyle Brandt on why it’s a must-sign move, while Dan pushes back on one of Kyle’s points.

Funny, insightful, and packed with stories you won’t hear anywhere else—this episode has it all.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Throwing some ice, mix in some vodka in color.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in
Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Hello and welcome. Thanks
for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a friend.

(00:35):
That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship.
He need to get some T shirts that say thanks
for getting your pot on or get your pot on
or something like that. I don't know, just just a
thought that just ran into my head. Dan, I want
to get random thoughts.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
On the podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Is cancel survivor cancelshn't even if you know, you know,
Oh God been there? Fucking shit, Jesus Christ. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I just can't.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I will never. So, speaking of that, it's interesting that
you say that because I have a poem I like
to read. No, I don't have a poem I like
to read. I have. It's just strange sometimes I think
we think we live in a world now where you
gotta watch everything. You say, you can't be careful, and

(01:31):
I'm and I don't know that I necessarily agree with that.
I think that you're seeing more independent things happen. You're seeing,
you know, guys be able to say anything they want,
but they're having to do it in their lane. And
I think that that that's becoming more popular and people

(01:54):
are starting to notice it.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Like the old show that we were on and the
show before that that you were on, Yeah, that show
would not fly in a place like Buffalo, Like you
guys would be off the air or we would be
off the air within a week.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
What do you mean the humor that we did in
the way that we talked or you guys talked on
the show.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Dare you you were part of the break group.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I was the producer, Okay, I was responsible for the
what came through the speakers, but the way we talked
to the subject matter we discussed. I don't think would
fly sixty miles West because guys got fired from ninety
seven Rock.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Right, But that was for something that was well okay, okay,
that was alluded to on our show.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I don't Yeah, Tommy would do stuff like that all
the time, but everybody was in on the joke.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Everybody kind of understood.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
When you listen to CMF, Tommy or you or anybody
would make fun of everything. Yeah, you had permission to
make fun of everything, and it was all good, all right,
Well out there it was like it's like taboo, you
can't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
But let well, let's go back though, because I'm not
sure that it. I think if we went back and
we saw what was said, if we heard what was
said in today's climate, would we feel differently. And I'll
even say this, I had a program director, Stan Maine.

(03:11):
Love that guy. I got to go out and see him.
He's now farmer Stan, and he used to say to me,
one of the greatest things you can do because I
would be really dirty, like sometimes I would get really
really dirty, and he would say to me, if we
read the transcript, he goes because if it ever goes
to like the FCC, they don't, they don't listen to it.

(03:34):
They read the transcript of what was said. Now we
live in twenty twenty five, where what were you going
to say? Because you perked up there and I don't
because I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
So like I was thinking of Archie Bunker right before
you said Stan Maine. Yeah, and fifteen years ago somebody
would have said, oh, they let gay guys farm. Now, yeah,
farmer stand ya Stan is gay. Yes, yes, that would
have been a comment that would have been, like you
would have left.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Ago, I don't think gay guys farming.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
We would have said something else said, yeah, right, nowadays
we have to but like the point is, like, you know, we're.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Beyond what's he farming out there? You have to know
you growing bananas? Right?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
That type of cobbat is something that we're talking. Okay,
you know, That's why I thought, because like you know,
like Archie Bunker used to make comments like that all
the time.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Does he use a hole?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh? Probably the.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Right, right. That's why I laughed, because it's like he
brought up stairs.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
He loves digging into the dirt button.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
But you guys used to, like, you know, make fun
of him all the time.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
But it was all part of Pratt. It was all
part of the joke. Yeah, everybody was cool with it. Nowadays,
like if somebody takes it out of context and reads
it like a transcript in front of the end.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
But but Stan was saying that to me back in
the in the mid nineties.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You could say a lot less now than you could.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay, but well, I'm not sure that I I hear
what you're saying on government air, on air that is
sponsored by certain people, like even with podcasts. I mean,
somebody could say I don't want to support that kind
of talk, and they don't. You find other people who will.
But numbers will always speak, right if you get the

(05:18):
numbers aren't regulated, No they're not. But but to a
certain extent, the FCC can only go so, you know,
do so much if you're not out of bounds, but
you're saying something somebody doesn't agree with, they can pull
their sponsorship. Which the bottom line, And this is why
I try to say these things because I don't necessarily

(05:42):
buy into well, well, I mean a lot of people
have pushed certain things in my way, but I don't
necessarily buy into the Stephen Colbert canceled. I certainly don't
think the Howard's Durned canceled. I think what is happening
is the money isn't adding up, and it's late night
in general. And one of the things that will save

(06:02):
Jimmy Fallon is that he has he is online. He
is so huge, His bits and things are so huge.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
People just start staying up to watch, right, but they're watching,
but they're watching.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
They can go on Hulu or they can go somewhere
and so they're not watching at the scheduled time. It's
it's on demand, So so that's helping.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
But we had a couple of guys at the radio
station we worked at, where well they were only working
so at lunch, they take like a long lunch and
they'd be watching Fallon. Like they closed their office door
and they I'm not gonna say who, but they would
be watching like Fallon and the other stuff that they
didn't watch the night before. They'd be watching it, or
I'm saying in general, they would watch like who huh,

(06:43):
he gotta let go and then he brought they brought
him back. Yeah, he closed the door, he grab a
chunky soup. He'd take a long lunch and he'd just
be watching videos.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
But like more than off of the night. He would
be watching like Fallon, it tonight show from the night before, okay,
instead of staying up and watching it.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
All right, So but I'm not sure like Howard, you
and I haven't talked about Night and I wanted to.
I don't believe Howard's been canceled. I think that subscriptions down.
He's seventy one and he does three days a week.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Year, Yeah, and so I think people are I think
serious is gone. We're not getting the bangfield buck, We're
not anymore. But Howard was a business man. That's what
people need to realize. He did radio right, and by
that I mean Howard Stern was in bed at eight
o'clock every fucking night. Went to bed eight o'clock. I

(07:38):
think even on weekends, if you had dinner with Howard Stern,
you were going to dinner at four thirty or five
in the afternoon. That's when Howard would have dinner. And
I know that because I know people who interacted with you.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
He's very disciplined.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
With Howard, he was like a Jewish business guy. You
know what I'm saying, And I don't mean it, but
he's a Jewish guy. But he had that same It
would be like a jeweler or any He was disciplined
in his craft. He wasn't this rock and roll he then.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
No, he played a character.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yes, yes, and what you see now where people go,
oh he's whoa That to me is the real Howard.
He was a family guy. He got divorced, but he
who has it.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
He never talked about his kids on the air until
they were way older.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
He insisted on not talking about his kids, I mean
talking about his wife, right, and he would talk about
parts of his life, but there were certain things that
were off limits, like a kids.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
But I'm just saying, like he he, it was a business.
So now if we take that same mentality, it's a business.
Business is about making money, and if you're not making money,
changes have to be made, right, because that's all it is.
And nobody cares at the end of the day unless
they're making money, right, And it's we have an emotional
connection to these things.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
But there's two acronyms, tow and mow.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
It sounds silly, but talent over everything when it comes
to sports. Once the talent runs out, we can get
rid of you're done and money over everything.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, right, once.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
The money runs out, right, we're done, right, We're done right,
you know. It's it's a it's I mean, it's tail
as old as time.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Right.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
So it's with Howard Howard's case, I mean, the dude,
like I already he was working two days a week,
twenty weeks a year, but he's still getting the same
amount of money that he got when he first signed
that big five hundred million dollar deal.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
He's get a hundred million dollars a year, and he
did it. And don't get me wrong, like that's not
all going in his pocket.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
He was, but he was pocketing like one hundred and
seventy three million dollars a year at one point.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
He paved the way for guys like OPI and Anthony
for sure, right, and then he protected himself from Opian Anthony.
But if you go back to the two thousands, Opian Anthony,
there's no way they could be doing that stuff on
the radio today. They used to have a whiffle ball
bat and they would have porn stars come in and

(09:49):
the girls would stick it somewhere and they would mark, I.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Shouldn't laugh at this mark how far would go?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yes? And so there were different lengths for the different women.
We have a new wind. It's terrible, right, but it's
it was, you know, it's funny. I don't know. I
don't want to say anything to that end. We live
in an age where things don't die, but to to
to go back. Two thousand and seven, Maxim published a

(10:16):
list of the unsexiest women alive.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Okay, okay, so you got to be famous at this point, right,
you got to qualify for this list.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, so Sarah Jessica Parker was named the unsexiest woman alive. Okay,
now I'm gonna read you what they wrote. Okay, okay,
but I want you to think about hate her. By
the way, Okay, well, how the hell did this racehorse exactly,

(10:47):
how the hell did this Barbara faced Broad managed to
start a show with sex in the title? By the way,
Barbara is a reference to a racehorse.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Who had got put down.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, okay, uh, now you won the derby that he
brought his leg. But that wouldn't be really acceptable today.
And and are we better off because of that? Are
we better off? I mean, I'm sure there's a podcast
somewhere where somebody says something. He's here's the.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I would like to believe we would be better off
without those things.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
However, yes, the side that says that's so mean has
no problem cutting your throat when they disagree with you,
no problem trying to cancel you, as long as you
don't offend them with quote your quote microaggressions.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
They're okay, right, coming in second, they have no problem.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Seriously, they have no problem here.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
He goes there, he goes.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Going after men. Well they have no problem going and
these are dude who do this too.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, they have no problem dancing to rap music with
incredibly misogynistic lyrics. But yet, oh my gosh, if you
said something similar like that, you get your throat cut.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, why doesn't snoopiet his throat cut?

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Why doesn't doctor Dre Why does an Eminem? Oh, because
we like their music, isn't that a contract?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Me?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But here's the thing, I don't care. I don't care
what you like and what you don't. My point is,
isn't that a conflict?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Is it a content? Well? I don't know if it's
a contradiction, because we could say Eminem has said things
that people don't like and he's white. So if you're
trying to draw a distinction between black and white, I
think you got to be you have to be a
little bit careful there. And the Beastie Boys certainly did stuff,
and so I'm not so sure on that. I see

(12:39):
what you're saying, Like there is.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
I was just trying to make it from a cultural stamp. Yeah,
I wasn't trying to talk about black and white. Could
we could go there?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
No, I wouldn't do that too.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
I didn't know from a culture standpoint, it's like, you know,
people have no problems reciting rap lyrics.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, okay, but hey, we could go to the white thing. Hey,
you're white. You can't say that. But I'm but I'm
I'm a woman.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I could say that. He ain't talking about me. I
don't know, Chris rocked in a whole bit.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
He ain't talking about me. He ain't talking about me.
What was he talking about?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I don't you want to talking about women and female
empowerment and equality. You want to talk about your anti racist, which,
by the way, all those things.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Are good, Yes they are.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Those are good. But you can't, like, you can't like
have a double standard either. See if we're.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
All ever gonna not have a double standard. It's a
human being thing. And that's that's the problem, and there
is always going to be that. And I don't I
don't live in a I don't live personally in that
world of I can't say this. I can say this.
I just choose to conduct myself a certain way. Yeah,
and that too, and that's just it. And I don't
I don't give a ship who says, what'll Hey you

(13:41):
can do what you want exactly. Look, people don't swear,
you don't swear you love. I love the C word,
but I love it used it as my Irish friends.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
I always made the argument for years, I said, Mom,
what makes everyone? What makes a swear word a swear word?
And nobody could ever answer that, So I said, okay,
well I don't. I've never taken the Lord's name in vain,
but I've used swear words before. And then somebody said,
you know what, Dan, you're a Christian. You really shouldn't
talk like that. And I said, you know what, You're
right regardless if that's how people perceive it. I don't

(14:14):
want to do that. I can, but let me just
say this, Damn the years ago.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
The word fuck. I could get my idea across with
one word, right. I could just go.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Fuck because you can get the anger out fuck that
you don't want to internalize it?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
How about fuck really like fuck? Fuck?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
You know, I got it anyway, there's anymocrate comic that
does a whole bit on the S word and what
it means, but hawk it means this, but doesn't mean
you know.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Go ahead. Amy Winehouse came in second in this one.
I could see that she died four years after this
was this is what put her over, openly hemorrhaging, translucent skin,
rat nest mean and lashes that look like more like
surgically attached back.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I gotta say, though, she kind of brought that upon herself. No,
but but I'm not saying that she was ugly. What
I'm saying is that she was a beautiful woman at
one point, yeah, and got hooked on drugs and then
started like like I kept turning herself into I.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Love I love the shows where they you ripped on
each other and stuff like that. But tip, I don't
know that I ever really got you know why. Okay,
I'm gonna rip. I love Amy Winehouse's voice. I love her. Yeah,
I love her music. Oh just so I couldn't. They
went on like self righteous belly aching, rapid uh deterioration
has Madonna in there. They're saying she looks more like

(15:35):
Willem Dafoe and this is seven and this is O
seven that that's my point, Like so brought up on
Reddit by somebody going look at this and when you
read When I first read it, I was like, oh
yeah that that those are stinging things that shouldn't be said.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I'm gonna say something about somebody that was brought up
on an episode of Family Guy, which makes fun of everybody.
So and so I'm gonna tell you who in a
second looks like a human cigarette. Do you want to
guess the actor or actress they said that about. I mean,
that's a wide swath acter actress, actor or actor. Do
you think it was an actor or an actress that looks.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Like a human cigarette? Yes, I'm thinking it's some skinny woman.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
No, Stevebumy. But everybody crackled because what are you like? Okay, yeah,
you know he kind of does.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
But but the point is, though, is that why is it?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Like the double standard part?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right? But we shouldn't because Dan, you're a gentleman
and you got raised to be a gentleman. We shouldn't
be shitting on women. I don't know, we shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
We shouldn't. I don't believe in do it.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
I had a conversation with my wife about this before
I left the house, about stuff like this about you know,
people like picking on people, you know, but like I
would never pick up one, but guys, we could get
away with it with other guys because we expect guys
to be able to take.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
It and dish it back, and we if you could
dish it out, you could take it. Some people can't.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
We know some people, Okay, all right, I'm saying in
general we know that.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, But I mean, like now it's it's is it
different when it's like if you somebody had the twenty
ugliest guys, how would society.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I don't think it would be as popular today. I
think there would be people sticking up for them. But
I mean that's what roasts were all about.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
They would they be other guys or would they be women?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I would fucking love it if women got up and
ripped on guys.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
There are some women online who have made a career
now I don't know, I don't know their names, who
defend men who have now made careers of defending men,
who have gone through the dating process and realize, oh
my gosh, we treated these guys like garbage and defended men.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
So I could see some of the will I will find.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I would love to talk to them because I see
what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Look, we could go, but the pool, I think the
pool is much smaller of people who would defend who
would who would defend guys on a list of twenty
ugly dudes versus twenty ugly women.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I don't know. That's no matter how what we're where.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
The slider scale goes in twenty twenty five from twenty
two thousand and seven. Yeah, you're still gonna have a
double standard of people. It's just we just have less
of it nowadays. We tolerate less of it. As a society.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
We do well.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I think if you had fat guys, I think that
wouldn't be as tolerated. I don't think it was as
tolerated back in the two thousand. I remember being on
stage and I was opening up a show and I
was bombing, and I started getting angry, okay, because I

(18:35):
was like embarrassed that I'm there and I.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Didn't even know you bombed.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Oh God, really fucking eight that just ate this shit.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I can't imagine you. I know Tommy told stories about
bombing before.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
So I looked down and I go, uh, there's a
big fat guy there, and I go die Cooke, I
goes yeah, I go, of course of this, Why is
it always the fat fuck? Think you're gonna save a
few calories of fat fuck. This is what I do
in stage. They were booing, oh, they were booing. Oh wow.

(19:07):
So I bring up the next act and then I
come back up and I have to I do another.
I probably did more than I should have, but I
think I did like eight minutes before the next one,
and I killed and somebody pulled me aside and goes,
that is the biggest turnaround I've ever seen. And I'm

(19:28):
like yeah, because they were all laughing then, and I
wasn't picking on anybody, and I realized that going after somebody.
The only way you can go after somebody when you're
on stage is if they came after you first. If
they came after you, it's fun to see the comic,
you know, who has the skills to cut them down.
Otherwise it you're kind of a dick that somebody paid

(19:49):
money to come to a show and you're bombing because
your jokes are just aren't good tonight at home? You see,
you know what I'm saying, Your deliveries off. So now
you got to pick on it. And I think, like,
I wonder if fat guys wouldn't be uh opened up today?
You know, you know I have a friend, I mean,

(20:10):
my Damien greeted Jeff Dale from Three Heads the other day. Hello, fatso.
But you can get away with it with the Irish charm.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yeah yeah, if you have an accent, I can, Billy,
if you have an accent, all you could wait well
hold no, no.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
No no, what kind of accent?

Speaker 4 (20:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Well true, true, true, I will say a certain accent.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
You could say almost whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Irish people can say what they can't well a little
bit if you're a Middle Eastern. I think people are
a little.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Wh Yeah, it depends on what they're talking about, what
the subject matter is. They bummed at the club? What?

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, right right, Billy bummed at the club?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I think do Irish that you also have to be
fairly good looking. That helps as a guy, like anybody,
but especially a guy, to really get away because it
is interesting to want what. And here's the double standard.

(21:05):
Somebody could say something and it's creepy. Somebody could say
the exact same thing and it's not why because one
is good looking and right? I really do think that
there was a guy fucking deal. There was a guy,
big fucking deal daddy.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
So when we worked at a radio station, they had
of course a huge group of people that worked in promotions, right,
and the promotions kids. They were all liking there, like
te late teens, early twenties. They all loved to party, right,
And there was a certain guy that they all thought
was really good looking and hit on a couple of
girls and they loved it. Then there was another guy

(21:40):
who really wasn't that attractive. You know, he's a creep.
I'm like, what's the difference between the two that they
weren't like significant? But the point was is that, look
where would get back? I'm like, okay, so he's a creep.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
But he's hot.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah he's he's okay, but he's a creepy. And I
knew both of them, and I'm like, he's.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
A nice guy.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
He's just he's single and he's casting his shot, he's
taking his shot. You just don't like it, Okay, But
when the hot guy does it, oh that's okay, that's
not sexual harassment.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
The other guy does it, it's sexual harassment.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Saying the same exact stuff because one guy's not attractive
as the other.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well, true, it's also delivery. It's also personality. You can
overcome some looks issues with a good personality.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think I think I think part of the path.
I think so mu's baked into the package.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, but I mean I think that like if you're
if you've got a you know, you can kind of,
you know, play with somebody. I think that that makes
you more attractive. I think it's it adds a few points.
I mean, I look, man, I'm not the best looking
guy in the world, but I can.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Oh, women loved you. You were like one of the
guys that everybody promotions with love. Oh, everybody loves Bill Moran. Well,
everybody wants to do remotes with Bill Moran.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Bill Moran was the cool guy.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
He was.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Kind of a cool guy.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Don't give us Danny please, let's.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
All right, Well we got to take a break. This
did not go the way I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Noize, no, no.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
No no.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Something else that I learned today, and I just want
to say, everything lives on the internet. Oh yeah, the
two thousand and seven article from Maximum Internet, so we
can kind of see where we were. And I don't
know that that's a bad thing. I don't know that
it's a great thing, depending because I also believe that
people get punished for something that they wrote online. And

(23:33):
we're not allowing someone to evolve, Like I'd almost like
to find the author of the two thousand and seven
article to go, how do you feel about that now?
Almost twenty years later? And when I say that, there
are things that in my own life that I'm like, oh, man,
I didn't do it.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
Well.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
We've talked about Howard Stern. Howard Stern called people he
went through like a twelve step program. He called brother
Weis and apologized for saying shit on his national radio
show about So I think everybody at some point goes
that that isn't who I want to be. I'm just curious,
like would that yeah? I think would that be?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's part of it. I think that we gotta let
people growl when we have.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Hul Cogan recently died and I'm not gonna go to
the whole Cog and stuff, Like there was a race
a rustling writer named Dave Meltzer and he's known for
like everybody like hates this guy, but they've subscribed to
his stuff because he's covered the sport like a beat forever.
And after Andre the Giant, hul Cog and Russell the
Russell Mania three and the match didn't take very long
as Andre could barely move and it was it was

(24:37):
the biggest event ever.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
And yet he goes.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Minus four and a half stars, worst match ever, blah
blah blah. But it put Rustling into another stratosphere, that
particular match in russell Mania, and they asked her about
years later and he goes, yeah, it's just young and dumb.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, I was young and dumb. I didn't I didn't
realize Andre was in vain.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
I didn't know like what the deal was.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
So if I known that stuff, And he's retracted that
statement that he made.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
But this is one that that that's interesting, and I
wonder how I'm sure some listener has dealt with this,
and I'd love to hear from you. You can always
email us at Bill at Bill Moram Productions dot com.
Bill at Bill Moran Productions dot com. Will uh, we
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Speaker 8 (28:03):
Am I thinking.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
In my head?

Speaker 9 (28:12):
Because she's not come home behind man, I wonder if
they made this video after she died, because it's Mark Ronson,
But I don't think it's Amy pulls up on stage.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's some other woman. But it's Amy's voice, that's Amy's singer.
I always loved this.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
This was a genre that could have They could have
done so much more with it.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, that fifty styles. Yeah, I always loved it. It's
very soulful, yes, you know, very soulful thing.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
Just as she's a genius, she was brilliant, she was
she wrote a lot of her own stuff. I mean,
drug sirt, tortured soul, I mean that's all.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Damn. Yeah, I love that. It's funny. I don't know
why I made the connection in my mind as we're
sitting here with Janis Joplin, who is another one who
really soulful, and I think of the song me and
Bobby McGee. I always loved it because of my dad,

(29:26):
and I've been listening to a serious satellite station. I
think it's called Barbecue Rock or something barbecue and I go.
So I leave here last night and I get in
the car and the first song I've had a couple
of these happen since he's died. And I don't know

(29:48):
if it's anything, if it just made me you're more aware.
It's like you get a red car and now I
see another everyone's got a riding car, How am I
gonna find minor a party?

Speaker 7 (29:56):
That?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
So it it was playing. And then this morning I'm
leaving to go to the gym and the Almond Brothers
Whipping Post is on. Now the only reason I really
liked that song is that's the song when my dad
came to pick me up from Fisher. He spent the

(30:21):
night in my dorm room and we were going to
pack up and move out the next day because my
college roommate lived close, so he was gone already. So
there was the mattress, my dad and we went out
and we got fucking ripped up. I mean we got
fucking ripped up. So god, so the Almond Brothers Whipping

(30:44):
Post comes blaring, and when my alarm goes off, and
so that song always so I heard that today. And
then there used to be a song. And I heard
this the other day on another station as I'm punching
around and I had to listen to it. It's have
I ever told you You're my hero?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Middler the beach from Beaches?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Okay, Well, we used to piss my mother off so
badly because we would go did I ever tell you
your Juzy? My dad and I we were singing this,
and it would be You're everything I'd hate to be.
And then the line where it's like you are the
you are the sweat beneath my thing, because it was

(31:31):
the wind, the wind beneath my wings, You're the sweat
beneath my thing. We used to fucking laugh Forressa, like
all three of those have happened, And I go, is
that if you talk to certain people that go, oh,
that's your dad, that's your dad telling you that your
dad saying, we're just trying to send you a message.
I have no idea. That's sorry for that.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
My father died too. Yeah, maybe maybe it was programming
the radio.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Things here, it was like because we used to sing
this song together, this song right, yeah, straight, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It was just weird, like even here last night Janis
Joplin like I hate dad. And then this morning I
get in the car and it's the whipping Post and
I go, what the f and everything like, because I
think I was listening through the app and not the radio,
and everything starts at the beginning of the song, like
you can. It doesn't pick up that song, It doesn't pick.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Up mental it doesn't all right, So here's the other thing.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
We live in twenty twenty five, and everybody remember, And
I think it's important for people to realize we telling ourselves.
I've said this for years on social media. And we
did that whole bit where I pretended the intern was
a psychic and then we got people online and we're
all like, each one of us were scrambling to find things.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Oh we had clairvoy Invel. Yeah, and Brittany the psychic
stripper now a real estate too.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Dumby, Well, I don't know. Val was great one.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
They're doing well, Brittany.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Brittany's a real estate.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, she's a real estate agent. Now I'm not going
to give you her real name on here, but she's
a real estate.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Well how do you know?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Oh yeah, because like well we were buddies on Instagram
or whatever, and then all of a sudden she's doing
her own real estate with her husband.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, like I got a boyfriend. He says he's moving
to Arizonia. Remember, yes, yes, he goes where she's like Arizonia.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
It's like we had so many people like that for
that show. So I'll never forget when when JJ God
rest his soul. JJ Parne loved that guy really really
had some funny fucking moments with him up in Montreal
and everything he would walk around in that he got
the FBI. She heard the Female Body Inspector and he
thought it was the funniest fucking thing. It's so stupid

(33:47):
and like we're in a taxi cab and they speak
French and we're asking to go and he goes, hey,
tell him to go here, and the guy goes and
he goes, uh, hey, see I don't speak span neither.
This guys stupid fuck. But when he said to me
and Tommy like we're ripping on him, we're making fun

(34:09):
of him. He goes, hey, Ony, don't you too go
look at a pornobook.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Wasn't there a time where Jack Garner came into the studio.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Jesus, don't make me tell that story again. I've told
this story many many times. I will tell it again.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Okay, you never told on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I think I have. I probably have. We Jack Garner.
God rest his soul, yes, okay, JJ, God rest his soul. Uh, Tommy,
there used to be So here's what happened. Because we
were talking about Opie and Anthony. They let me, they

(34:48):
moved me, they got a new program director. They extended
dave Kin, and they put me from four until nine
at night, and they told me, after six o'clock you
can do whatever you want. Worst things you could have
ever said, worse thing.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
So four to six you're just talking up records.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I was talking of records I had to do get
the let out, and then at six o'clock it was
like all points bulletin for just fucking around. I mean,
I did a game. This is a game I did.
I called it skull Sessions. You ready for this, okay?
And I did actually get one person to play. Now again,

(35:27):
I have to go back, just like we're saying, look
back at your past. Would this be acceptable today? Probably
for me? Yeah, I would still find it funny a
little bass, I mean, pretty base, But if my kids
did it, I would be embarrassed. So the game was
a guy had to be with his girlfriend or wife.

(35:50):
She had to be performing filatio on him. He had
to put the phone down so we could hear what
was happening, right, so he could make it up. I mean, Jesus,
I used to have girls rub the phone on their
crotch and then gets the end of the mind this
this style of their pubic hair. I mean, they were
probably just rubbing it on their leg, but it was like,

(36:12):
you know, think about it, guys for and I would guess, oh, hey,
that sounds like a landing strip. So okay, so all
this is happening between four and nine, but this bit
was skull session. So he's got to getting filacio and
then we would get his mom on the other line
and he would have to compete against his mother while
he's getting blown we but his mom doesn't know this

(36:36):
right and in a trivia contest, and you would hear
like every once in when you like that guy, oh
his mother school, what is going on with you? Because
I think I know the answer all of that, like
not you know, so how I got to play? Then
Opie and Anthony you are gonna get syndicated and had

(37:00):
worked with Wee's and they say, we want to give
it to the station for free, just to say we're
in another market. So the station wasn't paying for it,
and they were part of the same company at the time,
so O and A. But they were like, we're gonna
run them from seven to midnight. So they come to
me and they go, well, you're gonna have to just

(37:27):
do stream music because we're getting we're gonna start you
at three, you'll go three to seven traditional time. And
we're losing our rock identity because they're starting to talk.
Call us a talk station because it's weeze for five
hours in the morning and then well then o A.
So they're saying to me, you can't do your ship anymore.

(37:50):
So I'm like, all right, I gotta get out of here.
So I get a job and in North Carolina, and
I go down independently owned radio station by a really
rich guy who had sold off. He had a whole
bunch of stations throughout the South, and he kept this
one in Greensboro, and he used it as a tax

(38:13):
ride off for his private plane and stuff like that.
And they had everything you wanted, and they were paying
great money, and they had a really successful morning show
and they wanted a similar type show in the afternoon.
And so I got the job, and there was a
new GM at the radio station, and I don't know

(38:35):
what happened, but they sent a cease and to cist
from CBS and threatened to sue this independent radio station
if they hired me because I was still under contract.
I was under contract making like thirty two thousand dollars
a years, like what the fuck? And I had the
two boys at the time and my wife. So they
come to me and they go, we want you to

(38:56):
be the program director, and I said no, and we
want you to produce Wheeze's show because I had done
some bits for Wheeze. I would hear something when I
was home with Jackson, my oldest son, in the morning
before I dropping off of daycare, and I would go
in and I would produce it, and I would send
a Tweeze and he fucking loved it and played it
and it was great for me because then people would

(39:16):
tune in the afternoon and evening and it really did
help my numbers if I you know, he played a
bit like I did one where uh this guy Lucky
Nahoum who makes beautiful clothing.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that story.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
They had him brighton he had he made a Christmas CD,
and I remember Weeze playing the CD on the air
and it was fucking awful in youre oh, bruh, and
they I go, uh uh, Tommy goes, oh, anybody could
make a CD. Yeah, apparently bruh. Right, So I went

(39:51):
through and goes Crapital Records Presents right, and I had
put none of my own voice in there. I just
wrote it and produced the bit and then we fucking
loved it. Comes up to me kissing me and they're like, listen,
we need why don't you go and produce Weeza's show?
And I'm like, I kind of don't really want.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
And I had this offer, and then right as this
is all happening, then I find out the station calls
me and goes, hey, when your contracts up, we'll talk again,
but we can't fight CBS, and I got fucking it
was probably better anyway, because I there was other things
is the South. So I go to Weeza's show and

(40:32):
now I wind up getting kind of really but they
did they couldn't match the money. They didn't match the money.
But I will tell you that that's the name of
the game if somebody else wants you. So I think
that I was making at the time thirty two thousand,
doing afternoons on CMF right, and believe me, I left
radio making. It's amazing. When if I ever told anybody

(40:54):
where I left at and what I started at, it
is the biggest fucking climb I've ever known anybody to
do in one business.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Usually people have to leave a bad to make that money.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
So I I.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
The station in the South was going to be like
sixty grand plus moving expenses and stuff. So they said, uh,
we can't get you there, but we'll get you to
fifty eight. I know it, Dumble, it's fucking radio.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
It never made sense to me, but I just wasn't
gonna argue. So right, I'll get you to fifty eight
and we'll pay, but you gotta do afternoons. You got
to do both and Weesa's show and we'll pay for
your phone. Well I was half assed in afternoons and whatever,
so they just left me on Weesa's show and they
never cut my salary. That's why I thought when we

(41:45):
got bought, I was gonna get fired because I was
making triple what other producers were making. But anyway, so
Weeza's show was set up as with couches and microphones
on stands, and it was not really good. And Jack
Arner was a movie reviewer for Gannette. It wasn't just Rochester.
He wrote for Gannett The Chain. You could read them

(42:07):
in the Poughkeepsie Journal and he was syndicated, yes, he
was other papers. And he would come in and he
would review movies with on the Wii show he would
talk about and even DVDs and stuff at the time.
And he was a big man six' nine and but
walked like at an, angle like probably like a twenty

(42:29):
degree angle because he was so. Heavy And jack had
a lot of health issues and. Things and he used
to take like three or four donuts when there would
be donuts and there are breakfast, sandwiches and he would
squish them down and he would hide. Them it was
almost like the poor guy was, shamed and he would
cuff them behind his hands and he would sit down
and we the kind people on that Show tommy And,

(42:53):
billy which one of my favorite things was somebody calls
up and says something or came in the studio and said,
something and they go And weeds, goes wait a, second
you think you're gonna go up against Tomu lay And
Bill moran and you're gonna. WIN i don't remember what it.
Was it was. Something it might have been vity. Press
so he Has we called it The jack Staf Jack.

(43:13):
Sack he had three or four and THEN jj would
come in AND jj was AGAIN.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I just loved this.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Guy BUT i remember, like we're up In montreal at
the at The Montreal Comedy, fest which is no longer in,
existence but it was one of the greatest THINGS i
had ever experienced because it was all THE a list
comedy people AND i got to sit With Jeff ross
and we just shoot the ship and talk and eat
and it was wonderful and it was nice because there

(43:40):
was a lot of connection. There there was a guy
Named Howard lapitis who actually Owned The Man, show yes
a couple of years, ago But howard was, there And
howard was trying to secretly steal me and get me
to go To, california like and weez knew, it And
we's called it out on the air AND i got
pulled into an office going here on the gun. Drag
when we, Do i'm, like, yeah fucking Seue, la go.

(44:02):
Ahead BUT i didn't push.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
It but.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
So you were around all these people and it was.
WONDERFUL jj comes out and he's got it looks Like
lincoln logs where he, would you, know start with the
square and then build. Up he had A lincoln locked
tower of fucking bacon on his plate and he, goes
What i'm on The atkins.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
And he lost his ship through the, way the motherfucking lost.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
It he looked. GREAT i, mean there was a. Time
now you got me. GOING i did not intend to
tell these stories like that's. OKAY i hope people don't get.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Bored it was a story about like How jack AND.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Jj, No i'll get back to, that but let me
go off on THIS jj story one, time like we
had a big party and we're At we's's. HOUSE i hope,
BROTHER i hope somebody sends this episode to brother we'z
BECAUSE i don't know If we's will talk to me.
ANYMORE i have no. Idea, no there's. NOTHING i think
that there were hurt feelings over the. YEARS i don't
think in the end there. Were there certainly. Weren't but, yeah,

(44:59):
yeah AND.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I read an entire article from The yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
He, LIKE i believe. Me when that, Happens i'll get
a message or, Too AND i think that's. Wonderful BUT
i have no problem with, him AND i never did.
Ever but apparently other PEOPLE i never worked.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
WITH i did pleasure.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
WORK i did, So, Uh we're at his house AND
i think there were kids in a pool and some
kids started thrashing around AND i jumped in and my
phone was in my, pocket and they weren't waterproof at the,
time AND i remember getting all out And i'm. Frustrated
i'm looking over AND i hear all this, cackling AND
i HEAR jj getting like, annoyed fuck, YOU i can

(45:36):
do it by bla blah B SO jj DECIDES, jj
when he was a young, man was in great. Shape
but now he's like in his late forties and he's
got a pot, belly and he says he can go
out on the trampoline and do a. Flip, Okay so
he goes out on the trampoline and he's going down

(45:59):
and this motherfucker thing is touching the ground and he's
going and he's got a cigar in his, mouth and
he does a flip and lands fucking flat on his.
Face comes. Up it looked like a cartoon character with
one of those exploding guitars all ripped.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Up and, everything and he's just, like and we are fucking, Guy,
god we could. Breathe the third we couldn't fucking. Breathe
and that's the kind of shit that always happened on that.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Show there's a guy that many people know and and
this may upset the, guy BUT i found him delightful
and he's still. Around people knew him as The, king
and The king was very, proud and if you challenged The,
king he would he would. Come he would match the,
Challenge like this. GUY i will say, this AND i

(46:47):
have said, this AND i said This touez at one.
Point The king is the perfect. Example AND i Think
Donald trump is, too of the law of attraction because
they say things that the rest of us would GO
i could never say, that but they it all works
out for. Them they LIKE i got the biggest and the,

(47:07):
best and guess what they both do in certain. AREAS i,
Mean i'm not talking about the quality of the. Person
i'm just simply saying they believe what they. Say you
should look at that and understand that that's how it.
Works they're just great. Examples but The king always, Said
i'm the. Best on the. Back he has a wonderful,
company very very wealthy, guy lovely, wife beautiful, kids hugely,

(47:32):
successful so and, strong And tommy starts telling him he
can outlift, him and The king's getting pissed and he's
on the phone on the shone and he, GOES i
swear To, God i'm gonna put a bench press in
the back of the truck And i'm coming out to
the cottage blah blah. Blah and he's, going, Brown, brown
don't do, it because he's gonna do. It Like tommy

(47:53):
just knew the. Buttons but that was the whole, show was. That,
yes like they made WHERE i Said Howard stern was more.
Business we would be up drinking wine till midnight or something.
Like he was the rock and roll. Guy, yes truly
the rock and roll and a very smart. Man but,
this this is where he was surrounded by idiots because

(48:15):
you Had, jack WHO i mentioned had the, jackstack and
you HAD jj who would put on weight and take
off weight but had a big pot. Belly and there
was a coffee table And tommy, says, ooh and he, goes,
Oh jack AND jj are coming. In he goes and
there were all these hershey, kisses and he, Goes i'm

(48:36):
gonna splait it out like a, cornicopia, right And i'm
going you're such a, Dick you're such a.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Dick and he.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Did he made it like he had them. Out they
actually were in a little shape like they went around
into a. Circle fucking. Motherfucker sure, enough commercial breaks were
long on that. Show they sold seven. Minutes they sold
the shit out of. It So tommy leaves and he
would go take a lap and he would come back
and tell you about all the hot rods and he

(49:04):
sounds own shoes. Today, guy she's got the fuck me
pumps on. Man and this is all shit you couldn't
say in office. Today you couldn't say.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
It, then, really but how you get called on?

Speaker 5 (49:15):
It SO.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I look over and here Come jack AND jj and
they're both headed for the coffee table and they both
have their hands out and they're both bent over and
they're not seeing each, other And i'm, going this cannot be. Happening,
this oh my. God and they go for A hershey
kiss and they bank heads like they bonk heads to

(49:39):
the point where they're both like thrown. BACK i, mean
they came in with. FORCE i cannot fucking. BREATHE i can't,
breathe AND i got to open four doors to get
out of the fucking studio And i'm running them ribbing
doors and practice moment people will go ty toddy where
the fuck are? You you missed?

Speaker 7 (49:55):
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Speaker 1 (49:56):
Asshole it was. Terrible, yeah, terrible like stuff you couldn't
do if you can't do it. Anymore, no we'll take a.
Moment i'm, sorry you get me down radio. LANE i
have to go.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
THROUGH i.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Am i've talked about it quite a bit of radio
days and to, me it was a simple thing and
then it got. Complicated AND i like the way somebody
wanted to do. It And i've talked to various people
in who have had a lot of success On netflix and,
stuff and they love the. Idea it's just where do

(50:30):
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End and there's a couple people and somebody reached out
and got someone who, said, yeah they'd be interested in doing.
It oh, Wow, YEAH i don't want to say, anything
so SO I i, yeah so we'll see cool see
for that also. Happens but we live in twenty twenty. Five,

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In the.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Pubs, meantime not the.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Most attractive, man but certainly hell of a guitarists.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Or he didn't use a pick.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
And he uh dissolved the. Band, Yeah Din straits just
got rid of. It AND i think went on with
solo success AND i think scored a couple of movies
AND tv shows and, stuff you. Know but it was
LIKE i had this great, TALENT i like the voice

(53:39):
go down this is a song written ABOUT i believe
pubs And. Ironland so it was like somebody came in
into these little these little bands that would just be
and everybody's just not paying attention to him and, whatever
and some people would come in to, dance but there
were just these sort of forgotten bands In london. Town

(54:02):
well Maybe i'm, wrong maybe it Was. LONDON i knew
it was somewhere over. There, YEAH i thought it Was,
ireland AND i think everything Is. Ireland SO i, know all, Right,
danny let me get to this thing THAT i wanted
to talk because there's so many, things so many many
things THAT i went off on tangents tonight and stuff
THAT i wanted to get, to BUT i didn't get
to see IF i can do these three and then

(54:27):
we can do some bills things BECAUSE i did Watch Hard.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Knocks, YEAH.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
I, said everything lives on the. Internet SO i someone
is telling me today that they have a new, boyfriend
And i'll say recycled. Boyfriend IF i Were i'm seeing,
SOMEBODY i Would i'm, recycled, RIGHT i was. MARRIED i
call it. Recycling it's a funny. Thing but so you, tread,
yeah you're, right, Right, Yeah well it almost. Did it

(54:52):
almost did actually. Perfect but my point, is so this
person had been, married and then the person that they're
dating obviously had been married at one, point and THEN
i think was in another relationship that was fairly, serious
and she noticed he had a. Tattoo, now this is

(55:14):
where everything goes, on lives on the. Internet didn't know
that he, had DIDN'T i probably didn't think anything of the.
Tattoo but for some, reason this woman decided to go
on to the ex fiance they never got married the

(55:35):
ex Fiance's facebook page and notices that that, tattoo or
one particular tattoo is a matching tattoo that happens and
it's very, upset and so the dude, SAYS i will
have it, removed and she, goes, well you don't have

(55:56):
to do, that BECAUSE i hear it's very. Painful but he, goes, No,
no every time you see, it you're going to think of.
That so, no and she's, like, no just just have
it turned into something. Else don't keep it the way it,
is but turn it into something. Else And i'm, going
had you knock go on the fucking internet and dug,
through which is, again who can tell anybody to do

(56:18):
whatever they. Want but AND i don't know HOW i
would feel IF i don't know THAT i here's the
problem with? Me LIKE i would just, go, yeah it's to,
me it's graffiti on your, body but it's also part
of your. HISTORY i think tattoos for people who can
kind of speak to different points of their. Life it's
sort of a. Museum yeah you. KNOW i MEAN i

(56:38):
would like to not see your ex bo's name in
a spot Where i'm banging in it's the tramp stamp
and it says property of you. Know okay THAT i got.
It i'm we going too? Far he, No so this guy, says,
No i'm not going to do that because even when
you see, that you're going to. Think and he's in

(56:59):
the process of having it, removed which is very painful
AND i think fairly, expensive and it's going to go
a number of, months And i'm, thinking, like.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Oh they don't have tattoo removal. Insurance NOW i don't
think so.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
WELL i went. Through it's usually spaced out four to
eight weeks, apart and it's multiple. Sessions you could go
ten plus depending on the, tattoo the age and the
color placement and what it, does is it just breaks
down the color and your immune system then gets it,
out WHICH i don't even know IF i like the
sound of. That and it's two to five hundred dollars per,

(57:34):
session but you need anywhere from three to, ten, right
so you could be spending five grand to get rid Of.
Yeah CAN i tell you.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
SOMETHING i have certain rules That i've collected over the
years in life That i've written.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Down, okay this is. Rules why would you write the?

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Rules BECAUSE i think they're actually kind of. Clever some
of Them i've taken, you. Mule, yeah some have on my,
own all, right and THEN i come up on my, Own,
yes on my. TOMBSTONE i want this. Quote insecurity is
the mother of all douchebaggery in this, Instance, yeah the
girlfriend's insecure and the guys.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Insecure in his response to the girl insecure because, yeah
because you like tough, lap tough. Tough it was a
part of my, life like we, okay we bunch your
brother weez.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Right, yeah he has a ton of.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Tattoos he had A cmf tattoo and then he went
over to that other station at find the, fox, right
and he goes tattoos are the story of my.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Life, yeah that's.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Why that's actually WHO i was thinking of in that.
Instance BUT i DON'T i could see being the guy, going,
yeah all, right it's. Over because here's the other. Thing
like if you had a let's, say a favorite sweater
and your new significant other found out was from your
other significant other and it just sort of bothered, him

(58:53):
would you stop wearing it from time to?

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Time? Yeah, okay, okay that's something you can.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
REMOVE i got. THAT i, mean he's a tattoo saying.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
You don't have Any in that stage of his, life
he believed that that woman in him we're gonna before
perhaps perhaps he got the.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Tattoo.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
SEE i gotta be careful HOW i say, this because
there's certain people in my life that have tattoos that
mean a lot to. Them i'm not a tattoo. Guy
you're not a tattoo, guy and most PEOPLE i hang
out with are not tattooed. Guys for whatever, REASON i
just don't attract tattoo. People, yeah but they got a
bunch of other friends who are all, tattooed, Right AND
i think in a lot of, cases people get tattoos
in a way of their own to justify not justify

(59:32):
their own, security but because they are insecured in some.
Ways AND i think this guy got this tattoo with
this girl perhaps because you want to get magic.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Tattoos oh don't you love. Me i'll prove it to.
YOU i won't get these tattoos.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Together he's got to get rid of this mattoo to
do the same thing that he did with this prior
this prior, woman, who by the, way this relationship may
not even work.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Out and who knows if we'll get back to this
chick some. DAY i don't.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Know it doesn't, matter it DOES i got, YOU i hear.
You you her.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Cover, Yeah i'm like a jazz WELL i would say.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
THIS i have a friend who got a matching tattoo
and then they got divorced almost immediately, after and it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
His kiss at.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Death it's like The snickers COMMERCI i get the lion's
tattoos you, can and they trade him to Like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
MINNESOTA i can't say it's the kiss of. Death but
if if there was somebody THAT i was with and
they had a tattoo from a previous relationship that was
a matching, TATTOO i JUST i wonder SOMETIMES i really
have to stop in my own. Life And i've said
this to my. THERAPIST i, go is there something wrong with?

(01:00:34):
Me is there something wrong with me THAT i would, Go,
OH i don't, care it's all. Right it's like, no
BECAUSE i think you're, secure But i'm. Not in many
Areas i'm not, okay but, like BUT i am. THAT
i guess you know, What, Dan you're. Right i've always
been told you come across very. Confident, yeah but bye bye,
people AND i. AM i am in certain areas.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Not all, dude nobody gets everything BUT i but nobody
gets you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
EVERYTHING i would say probably that's probably true more often than.
Not but the thing, is, Like i'm. Not my whole
thing in life IS i don't believe you can assert
anything on, anybody so asserting my insecurity on. That you,
know if someone asks me to do something AND i, go,
Yeah i'll do, THAT i don't. Care you, know like you,

(01:01:21):
know we're not we not go to that bar anymore
BECAUSE i think some some g.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
BUT i just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
CAN'T i. DON'T i, DON'T i don't. CARE i don't.
Care and it has nothing to do with. That there
are certain things that, yes it WOULD i would. Care
BUT i, MEAN I i've had someone tell, me, Yeah
i've been accused of being flirty in the, past And
i'm just talking to people AND i, go, yeah those
kind of things don't don't really bother, me, RIGHT i don't.

(01:01:47):
KNOW i, mean IF i came out and all of a,
sudden you're fucking have your leg wrapped around the, guy
or he's got his hand up your, Skirt.

Speaker 8 (01:01:54):
Yeah but that's. Different that's a, yes that's that's a red.
Flag i'll see you, later right all, right real. Quickly, yes,
yeah that's. ALL i just thought that was sort of this, Dude,
no you do NOT i don't either not know him all,
right BUT i, thought, hey, man you're really GOING i,

(01:02:15):
MEAN i, go he's really laying down for. You you
know WHAT i mean that that's quite a your, MAJOR i,
mean that's.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
MAJOR i, mean why she's play an engagement ring instead
for five? Grand would this make you feel? Better or
maybe that's what she was hangling.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
AT i don't think a fairly new thing like. BARELY
i don't, KNOW i don't. Care i'm not good at these.
THINGS i did see something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
ELSE i Guess i'm not gonna get that boot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Tattoo why he could, say if you spell, it how
you spell. IT i did see this thing where a
woman popped a ZiT on her, face, okay and she
wound up getting a major. Infection now my wife is
listening to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
This people likes the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Pop, okay now listen for. Anything there is the triangle of,
death according to, dermatologists on your face because there are
certain blood vessels that are connected to the brain and
if you get an infection in, there they do. That
so they say you should get like a diabetic. LANCE
i don't know what that, is but like a very

(01:03:22):
small thing and then squeeze it with the puss out
WITH q tips and that way you don't have.

Speaker 11 (01:03:27):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
MAN i used to, LIKE i would take a. ZIIT
i would be up on the sink looking in the.
Mirror i'd be squeezing and. Squeezing, boom looks like somebody
got shot all over the. Mirror it was, awful, awful,
gross but it was kind of. Fun as a. Kid
you were, like look at.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
THAT i made.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
That that's. Done it's. Done. Yeah but but this guy
listen to this dermatologist just, talking and he does say
something in here THAT i would Say, okay that's a
little makes a little more. Sense as the board by.

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
Dermatologists this is why you should never pop a pimple
on the. Nose popping pimples in the center part of the,
face aka the triangle of, death can be particularly. Dangerous
this area of the, face from the bridge of the
nose down to the corners of the mouth half beings
that connect directly to the brain via a blood vessel
called the cavernous. Scinus and so when you traumatize the
skin in this area or pop a, pimple you are
potentially introducing a nitis of infection into the. BLOODSTREAM i

(01:04:23):
can also travel directly to the. Brain this can lead
to infection and even. Death is it incredibly rare for
this to. Happen, yeah BUT i still leave my pimples
on my.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Nose, Okay i'm about taking the. Chain incredibly, rare, right,
right incredibly. Rare but this, lady young, woman a, mom she,
goes GET i get this. Now some people are going
maybe it wasn't a, zip maybe it was ACTUALLY i
don't forget what they were calling. It but and then
there's pussed in the sack and you spread the infection

(01:04:54):
that way or, something but this whole woman's face got,
paralyzed swoll up on the side of her face and.
All she went immediately to the emergency room and they
were able to treat. It so, yeah, yeah who, knew
but she got. It But i'm just saying it's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Amazing because someone's like tragedy has to like teach. Us,
wow oh you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Either i'm just saying that you watch a lot of
things on the. Internet you have a lot of, doctors
opinions from doctors and. Things now pop is?

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
It my wife and a few previous women THAT i
was with over the, years if they saw something like
a ZiT on my face or something on my, arm
or something on a belly or, anywhere they would.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Go just let you take a look at. It just
let me take a look at. IT i just want
to look at. It and then they pop it. Right
AND i saw An instagram video of this. Dude he
wrote this is my wife AFTER i.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Die he's laying in the casket and he's got his
ship and she's like crying and then she looks down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
At him and then she like turns her head sideways
off it and then she goes to pop hisz.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
It that's so. Funny they gotta make sure you know
before you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
GO i gotta pop one more bubble in the bubble.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Wrap that's kind of funny but true.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Though women do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
THAT i once.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
HAD i was dating this chick Named. LISA i had
this gangly insist on my wrist and it was. Huge
she just kept pressing it president and then we ended
up breaking up or, whatever and THEN i lost a
bunch of weight and it went.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Away, yeah it was, weird like it went away with
the weight. Loss, Okay, yeah your body healed, Itself yeah it.
DID i guess here's another one for you to be aware.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
Of a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Natrio uh. Natrio listen to, me uh homeopathic. Doctor yeah,
right but she's, acted she goes by doctor mac you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Homeo she has.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Reignited a surprisingly urgent health. Topic AND i don't know
if you knew this guy or. Not AND i don't
know how she's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Reignited, yes a surprisingly urgent health.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Topic, yes, wow, okay and that health topic is. Flossing
OH i do it every? Day well, okay but listen
to the brought right. HERE i think they had to do.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Whoops can you say broad.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
Anymore if you see me flossing after every, meal it's
BECAUSE i am terrified of having a heart attack and
terrified of getting dementia When i'm. Older so they found
that the bacteria that causes gingerbitis in the mouth is
correlated to increased risk of heart. Attack that's actually been
known for quite a long, time like decades, Now but

(01:07:25):
more recently they found that the same bacteria was in
plaque build up in dementia, patients which is. Crazy it
makes sense because everything's so. Connected but you best believe
if you invite me out to a, RESTAURANT i will
be flossing after that. Meal, RESPECTFULLY i will walk away

(01:07:45):
AND i will go to the bathroom OR i will step,
outside But i'm getting in there because those are two WAYS.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I am not going to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Go, OKAY i don't. Know that seems a little over.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
DRAMATIC i know a guy who had a heart attack
because a bad.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Teeth, yeah, okay, probably but he did he didn't floss at. All, yeah,
okay there's a. Guy there's SOMEBODY i heard about who
died today or Died august. SEVENTH i guess he. Died
and always only finding out everybody's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Dying, Now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Uh did you know you might have got a fisher with?

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Him, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Jay from Stone Yard. Brewery he played, Football he was
an offensive. Lineman uh, jeez you're gonna ask me, that
And i'm STILL i don't want to scare anybody. Totally uh,
Yeah i'm. Forgetting did he own the? Place was? He?

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Yeah, yeah he was one of the owners Of.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Stoneyard, okay SO i met him once at he died
his concert with like he was sitting With.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Dino, yeah he. DIED i don't. Know no one's saying
how only think of a certain, way, Right but younger,
guy younger THAN i. Am but my my point, IS
i don't. Know could the. FLOSS i floss every, night
BUT i don't floss after every. Meal that seems a little,

(01:09:11):
Neron that's that's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
All, yeah that seems a little.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Crazy, okay, now but you go to these. Extremes we
know how many stupid supplements you, take and all this
stuff not, stupid it's been. Supplements and uh, OKAY i
added flaxe to my. Diet oh that's. Wonderful. Lush?

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yeah does that? That actually what it does is it
fills you up before the, meal so that way you
won't eat too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Much oh that's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Support.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Yeah for two days on high stream after go tell
boo Went tory, queen AFTER i heard what you what
did you have last?

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Night what do you mean? Here what do you have last?
NIGHT i had something with?

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
You, no, no, no, no oh we Had Chinese, yes
because somebody dropped dropped.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
OFF i wasn't planning out, now but you, said you
said out, LOUD i can't eat, this and then.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
YEAH i have one one that kame two chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Nuggets yeah they were like whatever yeah with Fried, yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Hey i'm sorry about meeting all the, Rice like, NO
i don't need the, Carbs like, yeah, okay like. Carbs
you just had like eight chicken Nuggets chinese chicken. Nuggets,
no but THAT'S i, mean. Dude people don't realize that
there are certain ways you can actually with a fit
bit or, whatever monitor certain aspects of your health that
they're finding, out you, know could actually predict long term,

(01:10:28):
success long term health health span over over. Lifespan. Right
you don't want you want a good health, span, Right
like grip strength is a big indicator of how long
you're going to. Live YOUR vo two max.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Is a big.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Indicator and by the, way you can't just go into
wanting to work on my grip. Strength, no it's an
entire body.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Thing your grip.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Strength is actually just A i don't want to call a,
symptom but an outcome of good exercise over the, years
good strength.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Training.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Yeah i'm probably not gonna live that, long so this
supplements don't matter because my grip strength probably. Sucks, okay
MY vo two max is, great MY hrv is pretty.
Low SO i got fifty to fifty part rate. Variants,
yeah between the, beats you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Know so it's. All, well it's like a fucking CAR i,
know that's all we, are the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
Idiotts all we are pumps and pipe idiotts start Flashing
billy trying to get checked.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Out pumps and. Pipes we don't know when The lord's
gonna call. It.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Wow that's why you gotta get, race.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Is Why JESUS i always say. Why if someone is
willing to give you their, time it's the greatest gift
they can give.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
You, Yeah i've given you a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Times you have it's the greatest gift they can give
you because they don't know how much time they. Have
no and somebody sent, me, uh AND i had seen this.
Online somebody sent me a segment Of Taylor swift on
The New heights podcast with The, kels right with The,
kelseys and she says something and the person, said this

(01:11:53):
reminds me of what you say all the. Time AND i,
go that's kind of cool when somebody says something and
then you thought of. ME i think that's. Amazing BUT
i will play the clip of What taylor said and
see if you can draw the same, parallels and Then
i'll explain WHY i do think it is a similar.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Thing there was. Before there was a movie with Justin.
TIMBERLAKE i don't know what it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Was it wasn't a box office, smash but the premise
of the MOVIE i didn't see. It the premise of
the movie was what if we measured and bought everything
with minutes instead of? Money, yeah four minutes we're a
cup of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Coffee.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Yeah but the idea is is, that like how you value,
sure how valuable thomers? Is we all get the same
time for, hours seven, days there's only, two you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
KNOW i, mean it's this is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Why and maybe it's since my dad, died or actually
since my dad was having failing. HEALTH i often go
how many more summers DO i? Have what AM i?

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Doing my father died of fifty, eight my sister died
of fifty. One i'm forty.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Five, yeah and according to WHAT i read On, Twitter
jesus is probably coming back sooner than.

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Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
I hate To Kendrick, lamar these beasts of a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Drugs what'd you write this song?

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
About, NO i don't, know you, REMEMBER i. DON'T i don't.
KNOW i was looking for A Taylor swift song and
THEN i was looking for something, else AND i maybe
you'll draw the. Connection, uh it was J nichols who,
passed and he was stonyre, brewing AND i had to

(01:16:36):
go somewhere to find his. Name and THEN i, thought
you know, WHAT i. Think there's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Blood how do you how do you? Die they're going
to ruin your die of. Noida that's awful because he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Old, well that's WHY i would. Assume, yeah, honestly it's just.
Speculator you. WANT i don't want to do that because
he has. Kids have floss your, teeth.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Folks that's got nothing to do with What jay. Happened
have no, idea but goes back to the previous.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Segment someone wrote me and, Said, okay this goes to
what you say about quote the giving of your. Time
just wanted to Share this Is Taylor swift on The
Kelsey brothers, podcast which is kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Cool people can be.

Speaker 12 (01:17:16):
Out, here people might be out here doing too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Much just shake it. Out doesn't MEAN i have to
do a damn.

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
Thing.

Speaker 12 (01:17:22):
Yeah we live in such a social media moment where
a lot of people's identities and and they get.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Their feedback from.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
That.

Speaker 12 (01:17:28):
Right And i'm a real constructive criticism. Guy, like give
me constructive criticism all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
DAY i will take. It it'll fuel.

Speaker 12 (01:17:38):
Me it's, helpful, Right BUT i have so many like
friends or acquaintances or people were like they'll see one
comment they don't, like and it will ruin their, day
it'll ruin their. Night AND i just want to say to, them,
like you should think of your energy as if it's,
expensive as if it's like a luxury.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Item not everyone can afford.

Speaker 12 (01:17:59):
It not everyone has invested in you in order to
be able to have a capital for you to care about,
this because like what you spend your energy, on that's the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Day, Okay i'm gonna say something THAT i don't know
people will take. It if you have a little girl
and she Loves Taylor. Swift fucking awesome THAT i thought
that was beautifully. Said you, know your energy is expensive
and IT i don't know that. PEOPLE i don't know

(01:18:30):
if people really equate, it it will become A t,
shirt it'll become. Quoted but what she's saying is don't
let other people's opinions of. You that's WHERE i always,
go turn the other, cheek or where's the coaster of
all The? Yeah, RIGHT i THINK i had one in
Here Burier. Entry, no someone else's opinion of you is

(01:18:55):
none of your. Business and that's SOMETHING i have said
many many. Times it's on the coaster to the. Guy
maybe someone else's opinion the of you is none of your.
Business and it's hard because we live in that world
where people are saying things about, you and it can be,
very very. Hard and that's WHY i say, often like
when we were talking, earlier and you, know there are

(01:19:15):
words THAT i can say AND i. Can't you can't.
SAY i can, SAY i, can't you. CAN'T i, GO
i don't. CARE i don't care because all that stuff
is just. Noise it's just fucking. Noise and that's Where i'm.
Going you, know what are you going to spend your
time On are you gonna spend your time upset and
frustrated and scared or you're just gonna go it doesn't

(01:19:35):
matter because tomorrow's a new day and no one's gonna
think about it or. WHATEVER i really like the way
she said. THAT i like what she had to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
SAY i have no issues with.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
That your energy is you, know it's you should have
a cost for your. Energy there are three things to.
That Number, one like the constructive criticism part that oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Uh you know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
YEAH i would much rather, be you, know hurt by
the truth than comforted with a. Lie, okay, well what.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
She's saying is constructive criticians just telling ME i look,
fat right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
RIGHT i know it's but like, yeah, yeah, yeah like,
no that's WHY i agree with. That that's what she
means by. That Number, two like the whole thing about
the energy and.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Stuff imagine how much power you're giving someone when, they're
as people like to say, nowadays paying living in your
head rent. Free yeah, right, Exactly and that could become,
like if you don't get over something within three, minutes
it could become an entire. Day you got to get
rid of, It you got you got to figure out
a way in one hundred and eighty seconds or.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Less just, Okay i'm moving. On it's, hard it takes,
practice but you got to ask yourself is this really?

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
True is this absolutely? True and then when you realize it's.
Not but if you do the exercise long, enough that
stuff won't bother you. Anymore, man it takes a lot
of thinking to get to that. Point but the other
thing is nobody's really thinking about you that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Much there's where they're not that we've become such a narcissistic,
SOCIETY i guess would be the, term and that everything's about, me, me,
me me. Me, okay, good, fine go out, there get the.
Attention but with that there is the dark, sky the
low energy of people coming at you in a negative.
Way you just have to just not listen to. IT

(01:21:13):
i KNEW i knew. PEOPLE i knew grown men who
wrote articles and, things and they would block people all the,
time AND i always, go what's the point of? That,
well but it doesn't matter Who i'm talking. About but
my point, was like that was always. WE i don't
think there's ever been ANYBODY i, blocked you know. What
my agent WHEN i LEFT cmf AND i went over

(01:21:37):
To iHeart. Stations my agent had access to my social
media and blocked anybody who worked there BECAUSE i wasn't
REALLY i GUESS i must have been, aware BUT i didn't.
Remember and years later somebody else who had come over
said to, me did you know you blocked me On?
Twitter And i'm, LIKE i had no. Idea i've never blocked.
ANYBODY i don't care you want. TO i often think

(01:22:01):
this if it's always how you look at everything in.
Life you can walk into a room and notice the
hole in the carpet and the whatever and, say, oh
what a. Dump or you can walk into the place and, go,
wow it's so nice that this restaurant is, here and
that they are making enough, money if they have a,

(01:22:22):
staff and they're right near the, water and it's really.
Great and it's all in how you kind of look at.
It and the more you do the positive aspects of,
things the more you're going to find the positive aspects of.
Things you know you could use YOUR i know you
Like Tony. Robbins Tony robbins used to do a thing,
like you, know think of the color, Red think of
the color. Red can now find the brown? CAR i

(01:22:43):
can't because All i'm thinking is, red, Right but it
just shows you the power of your thoughts and the
power of. Suggestion but the power of your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
You focus goes your energy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Flows AND i think that if you focus on the
more positive aspects of, things including the positive aspects of,
people you will get more of that and you will
just have almost this what what could be referred to
as somewhat of a magical. LIFE i really do think,
that and it's hard to, do but that is all
part of your energy and your. Frequency AND i think

(01:23:12):
that the purpose of coming To earth here we go
is AND i talk about this in The Bill lightenment.
Podcast if that's something you're interested, in police check that.
Out but it is to learn how to manipulate. Energy,
OKAY i do think, that AND i think that that's
What jesus was trying to teach. You do one have
that he went to a, cross, believe but, well because

(01:23:34):
people didn't want you to fucking. Know and it goes
back to The Bill hicks thing bank, account what are
you doing coming back and telling, Us, hey it's just
a right same kind of thing in terms of the,
Message yes he did he went to the cross one
hundred percent he. Did BUT i think the purpose was
to show you that all the stuff is in, you
what is in me is in. You you have it as.

(01:23:56):
Well you just have to get into the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
LIGHT i look at it from a differ, Person but we.
Don't We we could do that all. Day but the
one thing About Taylor swift saying all this, stuff everybody's
taking notes and. Listening that's pretty. Good, yeah she wrote
a bunch of songs.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
About people who m f all, right but she spunned into.
Gold she took the negative energy and she spun it into.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
GOLD i think that she wrote songs about person relationships
that hurt her not so much people writing shitty things.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Online was that bad blood? Song wasn't that about?

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
That?

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
THOUGH i, MEAN i don't know what the SPECIFIC i
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
What i'm not knocking her for that BECAUSE i, mean,
look that's what that's what all this. Do they take
that that pain and they turn it into. Something and
she's been able to spin a lot of stuff into.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Gold she's got a new album, out that's why she
was on Her Uh i'm Sure boyfriend's. Podcast one point
four million people watched that live. Apparently, Really oh, yeah
that's great included my Buddy dan's. Wife he, GOES i
can't believe, this she's watching the podcast for. Dinner come,
on that's. Funny Show girls is the name of the,
ALBUM i, think which at FIRST i was excited BECAUSE

(01:25:00):
i thought there was gonna be A showgirls.

Speaker 7 (01:25:02):
Too.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Jesse, Yeah jesse's Fan Elizabeth. Berkley, yeah she. Was she was.
Hot that ruined her career, too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Of course it. Did it was a terrible fucking. Movie,
yeah it was. Bad she was bad in. It it was,
awful but it was she was hot at the, time
and you, know If taylor was gonna go in AND
i was, like, oh what are they? Doing what's happening? Here,
oh it's the name of her. ALBUM i. DIDN'T i
Watched The Hard knocks AND i did not walk away
with the same boring. FEELING i know you, did BUT

(01:25:31):
i Mean i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Not i'm okay with. That i'm okay with. THAT i
thought it was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
OKAY i, mean even the the cuchie thing on the
scooter was. OKAY i don't know if kJ hamler. Anymore,
yeah but kJ hamler had that you, know touchdown in the,
game and, uh AND i LOVED i didn't, Know Ray
davis kicked the extra point and it's the emergency.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
KICKER i like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
THAT i liked some of the stuff With. JOSH i
thought they didn't focus entirely On, josh which was. Great
you did get some mar stuff in, there which certainly
IS i, MEAN i can say that Tomorrow hamlin shouldn't
be a, starter BUT i also, say you know how
good you have to be to suck at THE. Nfl
he doesn't suck at THE. Nfl he doesn't and he

(01:26:13):
died like he died.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
On the fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Field and he seems to be a very humbled.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Guy, YES i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
KNOW i liked.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
It it was. Okay, YEAH i MEAN i GUESS i.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Went in with no expectations and that here or low.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
Expectations just think this show has been on since The
ravens won The Super bowl in two.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Thousand So Steve sable.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
Had this idea that we're going to do a reality
show because remember like in the late, nineties after The
Real world When survivor came, out all of a, sudden
now REALITY tv, explodes even though cops in The Real
world had been around for about a. Decade Now survivor
just do REALITY. Tv it's gonna be a.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Basic so The.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Ravens were the first team to do hard knocks and
they were A Super bowl. Champion since, then until The,
bills no team that's done hard knocks has been expected
to be a Super bowl champion or A Super bowl,
contender like, legitimate like what are you waiting? For like
The patriots never did it in all their years of.
Winning The colts never did it When manning was the.

(01:27:13):
Quarterback The broncos didn't do it When manning was the.
Quarterback good teams did not have to do. It the
rule is if you made the, playoffs you didn't have
to do hard. Knocks so you always got bad. Teams
so there was always.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Drama, right drama with this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
TEAM i don't remember hard knock's. DOING i Told Peter,
manton but he used.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
To show you guys getting, Clipped, yeah getting.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Cut they don't show you well because we haven't gotten
that point yet because now it's one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Cut before you had multiple. Cuts now it's just one. Cut.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Yeah so that's part of the drama, too because then
there was the guy who had to go and knock a. Coach, Coaches,
uh he wants to see you bring your playbook, famous
bring your playbook your.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Buddy john cutchco was The turk for The New England
patriots in the mid. Eighties he was excuse, me he
Had he was a guy who had to go knock
on their. Door in THE, nfl he was an, intern
and THE nfl got w into that and, said, no
you can't do. That you can't send an intern to
a professional football players room and cut him and then
brand to the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Airport that's not. Cool but the reason the other thing
is to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
It there's more sit down interviews this year than ever,
before With sean, McDermott With Brandon, bean With Josh, allen
with the. Players they didn't do that, Before, ye not as, often,
right they would catch candid clips of. Everybody there was
always a contract. Dispute there was always you, know LIKE
Jj watt going off because the head coach was going

(01:28:34):
off In houston about how bad they.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Played to talk about and it's settled now and we'll
get to. That they alluded, To, well they Showed, Cook,
yeah they Showed cook being There And Brandon bean, said it's.
Different the holdouts are different now they'll hold in, yeah
because you are in the meetings and you're there for the,
place and he, goes AND i really appreciate. That, yes
and he, goes he's not not. Practicing but then you

(01:28:58):
got the running backs coach going pay, attention watch everything we're. Doing,
yes and he's standing right. There, yes and you, know
and they also, say it's an opportunity for somebody else
to get in. There frank Or junior looked.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Okay but in the, past, THOUGH i remember when when The,
jets the big year that The jets were supposed to
be the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Team Rex ryan was the head, coach, Right Mark sanchez
is the.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Quarterback they Bringing Joe namathan to talk to the, guys
And Darrell reevas was holding, out oh for a new,
deal and so that was like the pinnacle of the
drama if because If rebas doesn't show, up they're not going.
Anywhere now they end up not going anywhere anyway that. Year,
yeah but the point Was Darrell. Reevs, well, no they
may have gone to the championship game that year and,
lost but the point Was Darrell reebas was the centerpiece

(01:29:38):
of that. Defense the whole defense revolved around him And
antonio Nine, Kids Crow, marty which by the, way was
another feature of that year because he couldn't remember his kids'.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Names if you remember. That, Yes, NOW i THINK i
have a, theory AND i can't prove. IT i don't
know if it's. True i'm probably talking out of.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
My ears or, whatever BUT i think The bills may
have volunteered to Do Hard knocks under certain stipulations that
they get final creative roll over, everything because there's really
nothing dramatic, here not even the injuries they're really not.
Getting they're Featuring Damar, hamlin, well they could have featured
him last. Time they're Featuring Josh, Allen, well why wouldn't.
You He's Josh, allen, right he's the guy you. Know

(01:30:13):
they're talking to the, COACHES i mean the coaches and
the general managers general. Manager they're talking more directly with
the camera, now Like Joe brady's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Talking that never used to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
Before so they're like really putting together a show because
The bills aren't giving them much to work.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
With and guess, what if you're A bills, fan that's
a good. Thing that's not a bad.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
THING i don't think The jets gave him much last year,
either BECAUSE i stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
WATCHING i thought that was a couple of years. Ago but, yeah,
yeah The jets didn't give him.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Anything last year was The, bears and the year before
so two years ago was The jets and the year
before that with The. Lions that was interesting because you
saw a young team that was really coming.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Together they had been.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Awful But campbell was a nut and he's doing like
he's doing the drills with the players and he's like
outperforming the players during the drills and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Stuff but the, bill, really there's nothing really to.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
There's not much to, give and even The jets really
didn't offer other Than rogers didn't offer much. EITHER i
think the teams have more creative control.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Now i'm sure they. Do i'm sure they. Do AND
i think because everything's out there now, right we don't
have certain things tweeted. Out we.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
Went, yeah the, biggest the biggest thing with the linebackers
coach going off And dan Dreeson i'm not, sorry Not Van,
Dreeson Buffalo, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Yeah getting yelled at By Vander.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Mark, yeah Vandom mark was, Yelling, okay he's at a,
bounce he's out of, bounce let him go, right what's
wrong with?

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
You that was the most drama, Though that was the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Most but even that's a great feel good. STORY i
didn't hate. IT i, MEAN i GUESS i have low.
Expectations here's the thing you sent. Me it's. LONG i don't,
KNOW i want to play the whole. Thing but it
was FROM Nfl, Network Good Morning, Football Kyle. Brandt Kyle
brandt talking about The James cook signing AND, I i
know you got some thoughts on. THIS i sort of

(01:31:54):
tend to agree with what he's saying in, this but
here we.

Speaker 11 (01:31:59):
GO i think they had to do. It i'm glad
that they did it because there's a lot of ways
to look at. This there's a lot of things you
could see where, it's, well he's not on the field that. Much,
well there's so much production from the other running. Backs
well it's an expensive running. Back you could look at
all those. Things the one thing The Buffalo bills do
not want to look at if they don't want to
look out on the field in Late, january when you

(01:32:19):
know as well AS i, do they're going to be In,
arrowhead it's going to be in the fourth. Quarter it's
going to be twenty three to Nineteen Kansas, city and
The bills are struggling to run the ball and they
can't do. It and The chiefs defense is Swarming allen
and they're passing all over the, place And alan is
trying to Do allen ball and it's just not. Working
and they don't Have James cook out, there the guy
who was a superhero last year In, arrowhead who scored

(01:32:41):
one of the most, dramatic one of the most incredible
touchdowns The Bills i've seen in the Entire allen era
on a fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Down who does that?

Speaker 11 (01:32:48):
Play you need that guy when you go To. Arrowhead
And i'm not talking about it in the regular season
game against The. Chiefs i'm talking about in the playoff.
Game The bills are a one game. Team they have
to win one game this year that they can seem
to never win and to go into. That don't tell
me about how much percentage this time he's on the.
Field tell me about the percentage of the time That
James cook is in the end. Zone this is a

(01:33:10):
huge season for The. Bills they have to have that.
Guy maybe it's not the most fiscally responsible, thing and
running back this they got to win a Super, bowl
and you, know there's a lot of comparisons To josh
now about he's going into year, eight and there's there's
comparisons that are starting to come up About josh And
Peyton manning about what they went. Through josh has been
through seven. Seasons peyton through seven seasons had been to

(01:33:31):
one title. Game josh has been to. Two he's actually
ahead of Where Peyton manning had been at this point
in his. Career the difference, is. Guys the DIFFERENCE i
agree with this is That peyton spent the bulk of
his career with A hall Of fame receiver in his,
huddle with A hall Of fame running back in his,
huddle with another wide receiver who's going to be in
The hall Of fame in his, huddle not to mention
A hall.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Of fame pass.

Speaker 11 (01:33:51):
Rusher on the other, side Has Josh allen ever in
seven years had a Future hall Of fame or in his?

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Huddle Frank gore doesn't really. Count it's at the end
he has not had. THAT i don't know if he's
ever going to have.

Speaker 11 (01:34:04):
THAT i don't see a guy who's going to Be
Marvin harrison And Reggie Wayne diggs has. Gone maybe he
would have become, that and maybe guys in his huddle
now will become. That but you, know damn, well this
is not apples to apples with him And Peyton. Manning
it's a different. Deal he carries more of the, load
he does more of the. Work you have to help
him as much as you. Can if you can't get
Measuring james And Reggie, wayne you damn well that better

(01:34:25):
not take Away James. Cook they didn't big baller being strikes.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Again what do you?

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
THINK i THINK i agree with a lot of what he's.
Saying we.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
DO i agree with a lot of what he, said
but he kind of contradicted. Himself James cook was not
on the field because Of James. Cook so when we
complain about him not being on the, field it's because
he took himself off the. Field he was not, available
he was not. There there's this old. SAYING i wrote
about this For The times this. Weekend in big, spots
when the game is on the, line think, players not.

(01:34:53):
Plays And Josh allen had who to go to in
those final three and a half minutes, Himself oh And
Talton cocate who dropped. It oh And Curtis samuel and
OH i had a run for Myself and where was
where Was James. Cook oh he whiffed on a huge pass,
rush so they pull him out and they Bringing Ty.
Johnson and the worst part about it was they didn't

(01:35:14):
have to run a two minute. Offense all they needed
was three. Points they could have run a four minute,
offense gotten down the field eight the entire clock and
won the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Game but they.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
Panicked they panicked, Upstairs they panicked on the, sidelines Said
josh Save.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
Us does he go on about McDermott in this and.

Speaker 11 (01:35:28):
There's no excuses if they lose this. Year he's done
his job and now it's time for The bills to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
WIN i think.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
So, also Like Mike greenberg went on today about you, know.
McDermott Nick, wright as you played, yesterday went off about. McDermott,
yeah the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Only place McDermott is not on the hot seat is
With Terry. Pagoula and that's the only guy that. Matters
it is what my Buddy peter Our peter ates MCDER i,
KNOW i got like a three minute text this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
Morning he had to go to voicemail because, bro this
is just too long to, text and he went off about.
McDermott you, know people made an argument that The Marvel
levy should have been fired after the Second Super bowl
laf so they got annihilated By washington and the sacrificial
lamb was assistant Coach Chuck dickerson because nobody would Blame
marv okay And.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Marv was the.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
Glue but Who but they were never able to go
get over the. Top The bills haven't gotten to Like
Marv levy level yet For Super, bowls they've gotten to, one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
You.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
KNOW i mean like he's like he's talking About James
cook and, yeah they should sign him and he needs
to be That But James cook needs to be that,
guy and he hasn't been that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Guy It's James cook's own.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Fault let's go to uh go back to The Taylor
swift thing for a second where she, says you, know
put your. Energy your energy should be expensive and basically
don't spend that On, yeah some low. Life that's that's.
Criticizing you were saying horrible. Things, man if you're The Buffalo,

(01:36:47):
bills there isn't anybody WHO i would say is worth
their salt as a pundit that isn't saying this is
a Super. Bowl they have to get to This Super
bowl like it's a have to.

Speaker 7 (01:37:04):
The.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
Players we like to think they're. PROFESSIONAL i always think
they're human as. Well AND i used to always ask these, guys,
like how do you protect yourself because anybody can get
to your pocket and buy, THAT i, mean to your
phone by tweeting at. You because you all have a
social media presence and you need, to you, know you

(01:37:25):
become a, brand right they. Do hopefully if you're, smart
you make some, money you hire somebody to handle, that
and you don't see a lot of this, stuff and
maybe you just do a silly video and go on
with your day and let someone else handle. That but
the point is that for some of, them you read this,
stuff you hear this, stuff you can't necessarily get away from.

(01:37:45):
It you love, sports so you're probably Watching Sports, center
maybe you're Watching Good Morning, football and you hear this.
Stuff and do you think they internalize it and couldn't
go to their? Head could it fuck them? Up?

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Yeah, YEAH i know that's for a.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Fact buffalo bills intern they read and see everything and
have it delivered to them by.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Hand.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
Yeah, so and that's that was before social. Media so
now imagine when it get it's getting to your phone.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Yeah SO i think you really got to have great
sports psychologists and. Stuff i'll be interested if they talk
about the, grounding because it was not the trainers that
was doing, that according To greg when he was, here
it was other people within the, bills but they were
doing the ground and where they have you walk barefoot
on the grass and some of the players are DOING
i don't know that everybody, did but the point being,

(01:38:32):
like are there ways to sort of insulate yourself from
that negativity and again shut out the? Noise and that's
hard at any. LEVEL i don't care how many millions
of dollars you're making. EVERYBODY i, mean for us in,
radio well, yeah we weren't making. Millions, yeah but people
would get to.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
Us people would like, right, yeah, yeah, yeah we'd be
like a billion man with this guy's, well why do you?

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
Care you said?

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
That did you, said, well what do you?

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Care i've always been.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
That, yeah because that's BECAUSE i had to train myself On.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
But i've always been that. Way, YEAH i MEAN i
can't say that there weren't things that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
That, well there were times when like somebody would get
under your, skin yeah you, know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
And THEN i would get mad at myself for allowing
that to, happen AND i, go it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
Matter they're not you, know they're not. GONNA i think
these guys know what they're up. AGAINST i, mean let's be. Honest,
OKAY i were saying they have to make the Super
bowl this. Year well they've been saying that since thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
YEAH i haven't heard it as Much danny that they
have to like this is a Super bowl. YEAR i
mean Even nick is Like Nick, WRIGHT i think it
was disappointing the thirteen, seconds but one an amazing season
and what an amazing, game one of the BEST nfl
games of all, time and blah blah, blah and how

(01:39:46):
amazing Was Josh? Allen, yeah how amazing Was? Josh SO
i think you've got all those. ELEMENTS i didn't get
the next season being you got to get to the Super. Bowl,
NOW i thought last, season didn't we all THINK i
thought it was gonna be the dip?

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
YEAR a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Did, yeah OH i, Did AND i knew they would
be a playoff, team BUT i did not expect them
to go in essence thirteen and three with that throwaway
game at the end of the.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Season nobody saw that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Coming, okay there were some people in The buffalo media
who actually had them as a wild card.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Team, okay so the now that's WHY i feel like
more now Than i've ever heard. BEFORE i don't it's
you've got to get to The Super bowl or or
it's not even worth, It like getting to THE Afc
Championship game ain't enough.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Enough, YEAH i Mean.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Mike greenberg talked about How allen is the greatest quarterback
to not play in A Super.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Bowl, yeah the list is very.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
SHORT i went over the list in my own, head
Like Lorena reno on, ONE i mean one more Than,
alan but.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Like For marino was considered he's the greatest. Quarterback, no
he really.

Speaker 4 (01:40:50):
Wasn't but he Had Don, Shula John elway Had Dan
reeves and neither OF i, mean, like you, know Don
Or marino had more stars to work with than The elway,
did And elwa went the Three Super bowls without any
of those. Dudes he won to when he finally got
a head coach that could figure it out with the
talent around. Him BUT i mean There's Allan, Okay Philip,
Rivers Dan, fouts And Warren. Moon those are the four

(01:41:13):
that are In canton right now that never played in
The Super.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Bowl, Yeah i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Sorry Philip rivers is.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
Gonna Get hall Of fame, votes so he's not in
THE i don't know if he'll get in The hall
Of fame.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Because he's the weird.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
Thing people argue That Eli manning doesn't belong. There Philip
rivers had a better career Than Eli. Manning But Eli
manning got the Two Super. Bowls he won them and
beat The patriots both. Times so to, me that, alone, dude,
yeah you're out of Care this isn't. Baseball you gotta.
Stir but but that list is very, short you, know

(01:41:46):
And allan is better than all. THOSE i, Mean Dan
fouts was. Amazing nobody remembers, him BUT i Mean Philip.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Rivers was, okay he was. Good, yeah it was. Good
he was. Good he had a weird throwing style and
he but he was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Good reminds me a lot Of Jim kelly.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
And HE i believe he was From, Athens, alabama because
he used to come back to Where jamison was living
at the.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Time, yeah, yeah he played In North.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Carolina but, YEAH i mean this is we say this
is the but people were also saying this is the
Year kansas, suit he's going took a step. Back they
been saying that for the last three. Years, yeah this
is the Year Caleb williams really has to arrive as
AN nfl Court he's only been in the league one.
YEAR i, mean people say a lot of things this
time of year because there's nothing to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
About, NO i, know BUT i feel like the one
that is the loudest is The. Bills The Buffalo bills
had to get to The Super. Bowl, yes we went
a little longer, Tonight, danny but. Fun, yeah it's all
For lane tattoo, removals.

Speaker 7 (01:42:39):
All that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Stuff we Incorporated Taylor swift and The Buffalo bills.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
Together, Well Taylor, SWIFT i just thought that it was
a powerful. Thing she, Said yes it. Was i'm JUST
i hope people well.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
Understanding Did kelsey say something about why he hasn't been as?

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Productive did he talk about? THAT i THOUGHT i read
that he.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Talked he may. HAVE i was working IF i did
not listen to that. Podcast but they do a great
Job New heights For Dan. Marilla I'm Bill. Moran have
a great, Weekend have a great. Weekend see A monday
where season land.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
Up opportunity for me is just a cursey care that
judging make us feel the candle'll have to. Wag you
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