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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're eavesdropping on a personal conversation between the mentor and
the mentee. That's quite a relationship. It's almost like father
and son. It's a very intimate relationship. You can't mentor
anybody and not become involved with them and love them
and care about them and be concerned about them and
want what's best for them. And you can't be mentored
(00:21):
by anybody that you don't have respect for, that you
don't think that they are living the life you aspire
to and what you hope to accomplish, and they're surrounding you.
Insulates you, it informs you, insulates you, and it inspires you.
That's what a mentor should do. It should inform you,
(00:42):
It should insulate you, and it should inspire you. It
should inform you, meaning that you're getting knowledge. It should
insulate you, meaning that there's a layer of protection around you.
Whenever you're not the boss, whenever you're submitted up under somebody.
People think it's about bad thing is a great thing, No,
it's a great thing. Because you're insulated by that person.
(01:06):
The buck stops with them and not with you. You can
make mistakes, they can correct the mistakes. That's part of
the process. When they are gone, the insulation is gone,
and all of the heat and all of the cold
that they kept from getting to you now comes directly
unto you. So it should inform you, it should insulate you,
and then it should inspire you. You can be mentored
(01:29):
by somebody that doesn't inspire you. You need somebody that
inspires you. The word inspire comes from the word spire,
which means to point upward, which is reminiscent of chapels
aspires that peek up toward heaven. Inspire is to have
something inside that looks up. So when I hear you
(01:50):
preach or teach, or minister, or train, or do what
you do, you cause my inside to look up. That's
inspired that. You don't want to be mentored by somebody
that does not inspire you, that does not cause you
to look up to go to the next level to
be aware. So that's important. You want to get their information,
(02:12):
You want to get their insulation, You want to get
their inspiration. Those are three things right off the top.
You need to understand that Paul was to Timothy, he
insulated him whenever there was a complaint, whenever there was attack,
whenever there was somebody to be thrown in prison. It
wasn't Timothy, it was Paul. Paul insulated Timothy from being
(02:35):
the one that was up under attack. Don't always rush
to be in power, because it's not as good as
it looks. When you get into those situations and Buck
stops with you, and instead of them hunting someone else
down there, hunting you down, they apprehend you. They apprehended Jesus.
They didn't bother Thomas, Bartholomew, James, John, none of them.
(02:57):
They came and got Jesus. They crucified the Lord. They
beat him all night long. When you are at the top,
you get the licks, you get the blows, you get
the strikes. A lot of you are not feeling anything
because you've been insulated. When the Bible says that the
man should cover his wife, it means that a good
husband insulates you, insulates you. Truth be told, a good
(03:21):
wife insulates you. Good parents insulate their children, good pastors
insulate their church, good presidents insulate the country. Insulation is
a result of having great covering, and so that's an
important thing to consider. So they should inform you. They
should inform you. There's a communication responsibility. They should inform you.
(03:44):
They should have information you don't have. They should to
come hear them speak. Should not be out of duty
and out of be out of hunger. You go there,
you get fed there. Whoever feeds leads And so for
them to inform you is a powerful thing. To insulates you.
Creates a comfortable environment for you to do dumb things,
(04:05):
that's really what it does. Creates a comfortable environment for
you to make mistakes, for you to grow, for you
to develop. And once that insulation is removed, then you
are exposed to the elements and the cruelty of people,
and the comments of people, and the mandates and worst
of all, the expectations of people. And so Paul was
(04:26):
providing insulation for Timothy, He was providing information for him,
and then he was providing inspiration for him. Now he
writes a different kind of letter. This is not a
class that we're talking to. This is not a school.
This is not about him just making full proof of
his ministry. It's more than that. He is giving him
(04:48):
his charge. It's like a commencement exercise, it's like a graduation.
It's like a promotion. He gives him three things and
talk about them because I think they're important. Number One,
he gives them a charge. He said, I charge thee
before God. And let's look at that in verse one.
(05:10):
I churched thee therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ,
who should judge the quick and the dead at his appearing.
Preach the word, be instant in season and out of season. Reprove, rebuke,
exhort with all long suffering and doctorate. When you have
great ministry, your ministry should vary. You shouldn't always be
(05:32):
preaching hell, fire and brimstone, nor should you always be
preaching comfort and serve messages. But you have a responsibility
to do all of it. You have to reprove, you
have to rebuke, You have to be able to exhort
with all long suffering and doctrine. He said, I want
you to preach the Word in season. I want you
(05:54):
to preach it out of season. Preach it when it's
fattish to be Christian, Preach it when it's not fattish
to be Christian. I want you to do it for
the time will come. And this is moving from the
charge to the challenge. The time will come. The time
will come. The time will come, will when they will
(06:18):
not endure sound doctrine, and they shall heap to them.
Say that the time will come that you're doing right
will not be popular. The time will come that standing
for truth will not get an applaud and an amen.
The time will come. That's standing up to life and
being a leader and being strong, whether there's being a mother,
(06:41):
being a father, being a pastor being a business owner,
whatever you're in charge of, even if you're only inch
are to you, there's times that the discipline that is
required will not be popular, and people will not like
what you have to say, and they will not like you,
even though they don't don't really know you. They don't
(07:01):
like you. They will heap to themselves teachers having engineers.
This is interesting today because we stayed in our church
no matter what the pastor preach, no matter how they
disciplined us. They set us down, they silenced us, they
stopped us in the middle of our preaching. They pulled
(07:21):
our coattail in the sermon while we were up in
front of everybody, and made us sit down. It was humiliating,
it was embarrassing, but it made you be prepared. Today.
You do something like that, people leave your church and
go to somebody, and they want somebody who's softer, somebody
who is less demanding, somebody who pretty much lets you
(07:43):
do what you want to do. Has become the order
of the day. It almost sounds like Paul is describing
our day when he says they should heap to themselves,
teachers having engineers. They just want to hear what they
want to hear. It's a struggle for me sometimes to
do counsel. I confess it, especially marital counseling, because the people,
(08:04):
by the time they come to you, they are already
set in their position, and they only are looking for
you to reinforce their position to their husband or reinforce
their position to the wife, and that's all they're interested in.
They're not really willing to be informed. Okay, they're not
really willing, really willing to be insulated or inspired. They
(08:28):
just want you to endorse their perspective. So I think,
leave me alone. You already know what you're gonna do.
You already made up your mind before you got here.
Don't take up my life with things like that. The
whole relationship between Paul and Timothy are is quite interesting.
(08:50):
Timothy has a generational relationship with God that goes back
to his grandmother and his mother, eunus and laws, and
he is the tear of that generation. He esteeped in faith,
He has inherited and been nurtured in an atmosphere of faith,
and yet he still needs to be mentored. The fact
(09:11):
that you grew up in church doesn't mean that you
don't need to be mentored. Mentored in different areas of
your life, spiritually, economically, handling finances, being mentored as a husband.
The fact that you know Jesus doesn't mean that you
know how to be a great husband. The fact that
you know Jesus doesn't mean that you know how to
budget your checkbook. The fact that you know Jesus doesn't
(09:32):
mean that you know how to start a business. Stop
conflating faith and using it in areas where it is
not appropriate. It will not negate the fact that you
might really be a believer. God may have really really
shoot open the business. That doesn't take away from the
fact that you need to be mentored and developed to
grow in that area. So a bond develops between the
(09:55):
mentee and the mentor. It is a strong connection. It
is Elf and Elijah, It is Ruth and Naomi. It
is John and Jesus, it is Paul and Timothy. In
each case there's the emotional spiritual connection that occurs, or
(10:16):
you can't do it. You're being fed at the breast
of the person who's pouring into you. You're you're you're
actually nursing off of their experience. They're they're guiding you
around pitfalls and mistakes, and there's a gratitude and appreciation,
uh and an honor that goes along with it. You
don't pick somebody because they're the biggest or the brightest,
(10:38):
or they have the most degrees or or the southe
of their church. Their ability to really inform you, insulate you,
and inspire you. It's the criteria of great leadership.
We're eavesdropping on a personal conversation between the mentor and
the mentee. That's quite a relationship. It's almost like father
and son. It's a very intimate relationship. You can't mentor
anybody and not become involved with them and love them
and care about them and be concerned about them and
want what's best for them. And you can't be mentored
(00:21):
by anybody that you don't have respect for, that you
don't think that they are living the life you aspire
to and what you hope to accomplish, and they're surrounding you.
Insulates you, it informs you, insulates you, and it inspires you.
That's what a mentor should do. It should inform you,
(00:42):
It should insulate you, and it should inspire you. It
should inform you, meaning that you're getting knowledge. It should
insulate you, meaning that there's a layer of protection around you.
Whenever you're not the boss, whenever you're submitted up under somebody.
People think it's about bad thing is a great thing, No,
it's a great thing. Because you're insulated by that person.
(01:06):
The buck stops with them and not with you. You can
make mistakes, they can correct the mistakes. That's part of
the process. When they are gone, the insulation is gone,
and all of the heat and all of the cold
that they kept from getting to you now comes directly
unto you. So it should inform you, it should insulate you,
and then it should inspire you. You can be mentored
(01:29):
by somebody that doesn't inspire you. You need somebody that
inspires you. The word inspire comes from the word spire,
which means to point upward, which is reminiscent of chapels
aspires that peek up toward heaven. Inspire is to have
something inside that looks up. So when I hear you
(01:50):
preach or teach, or minister, or train, or do what
you do, you cause my inside to look up. That's
inspired that. You don't want to be mentored by somebody
that does not inspire you, that does not cause you
to look up to go to the next level to
be aware. So that's important. You want to get their information,
(02:12):
You want to get their insulation, You want to get
their inspiration. Those are three things right off the top.
You need to understand that Paul was to Timothy, he
insulated him whenever there was a complaint, whenever there was attack,
whenever there was somebody to be thrown in prison. It
wasn't Timothy, it was Paul. Paul insulated Timothy from being
(02:35):
the one that was up under attack. Don't always rush
to be in power, because it's not as good as
it looks. When you get into those situations and Buck
stops with you, and instead of them hunting someone else
down there, hunting you down, they apprehend you. They apprehended Jesus.
They didn't bother Thomas, Bartholomew, James, John, none of them.
(02:57):
They came and got Jesus. They crucified the Lord. They
beat him all night long. When you are at the top,
you get the licks, you get the blows, you get
the strikes. A lot of you are not feeling anything
because you've been insulated. When the Bible says that the
man should cover his wife, it means that a good
husband insulates you, insulates you. Truth be told, a good
(03:21):
wife insulates you. Good parents insulate their children, good pastors
insulate their church, good presidents insulate the country. Insulation is
a result of having great covering, and so that's an
important thing to consider. So they should inform you. They
should inform you. There's a communication responsibility. They should inform you.
(03:44):
They should have information you don't have. They should to
come hear them speak. Should not be out of duty
and out of be out of hunger. You go there,
you get fed there. Whoever feeds leads And so for
them to inform you is a powerful thing. To insulates you.
Creates a comfortable environment for you to do dumb things,
(04:05):
that's really what it does. Creates a comfortable environment for
you to make mistakes, for you to grow, for you
to develop. And once that insulation is removed, then you
are exposed to the elements and the cruelty of people,
and the comments of people, and the mandates and worst
of all, the expectations of people. And so Paul was
(04:26):
providing insulation for Timothy, He was providing information for him,
and then he was providing inspiration for him. Now he
writes a different kind of letter. This is not a
class that we're talking to. This is not a school.
This is not about him just making full proof of
his ministry. It's more than that. He is giving him
(04:48):
his charge. It's like a commencement exercise, it's like a graduation.
It's like a promotion. He gives him three things and
talk about them because I think they're important. Number One,
he gives them a charge. He said, I charge thee
before God. And let's look at that in verse one.
(05:10):
I churched thee therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ,
who should judge the quick and the dead at his appearing.
Preach the word, be instant in season and out of season. Reprove, rebuke,
exhort with all long suffering and doctorate. When you have
great ministry, your ministry should vary. You shouldn't always be
(05:32):
preaching hell, fire and brimstone, nor should you always be
preaching comfort and serve messages. But you have a responsibility
to do all of it. You have to reprove, you
have to rebuke, You have to be able to exhort
with all long suffering and doctrine. He said, I want
you to preach the Word in season. I want you
(05:54):
to preach it out of season. Preach it when it's
fattish to be Christian, Preach it when it's not fattish
to be Christian. I want you to do it for
the time will come. And this is moving from the
charge to the challenge. The time will come. The time
will come. The time will come, will when they will
(06:18):
not endure sound doctrine, and they shall heap to them.
Say that the time will come that you're doing right
will not be popular. The time will come that standing
for truth will not get an applaud and an amen.
The time will come. That's standing up to life and
being a leader and being strong, whether there's being a mother,
(06:41):
being a father, being a pastor being a business owner,
whatever you're in charge of, even if you're only inch
are to you, there's times that the discipline that is
required will not be popular, and people will not like
what you have to say, and they will not like you,
even though they don't don't really know you. They don't
(07:01):
like you. They will heap to themselves teachers having engineers.
This is interesting today because we stayed in our church
no matter what the pastor preach, no matter how they
disciplined us. They set us down, they silenced us, they
stopped us in the middle of our preaching. They pulled
(07:21):
our coattail in the sermon while we were up in
front of everybody, and made us sit down. It was humiliating,
it was embarrassing, but it made you be prepared. Today.
You do something like that, people leave your church and
go to somebody, and they want somebody who's softer, somebody
who is less demanding, somebody who pretty much lets you
(07:43):
do what you want to do. Has become the order
of the day. It almost sounds like Paul is describing
our day when he says they should heap to themselves,
teachers having engineers. They just want to hear what they
want to hear. It's a struggle for me sometimes to
do counsel. I confess it, especially marital counseling, because the people,
(08:04):
by the time they come to you, they are already
set in their position, and they only are looking for
you to reinforce their position to their husband or reinforce
their position to the wife, and that's all they're interested in.
They're not really willing to be informed. Okay, they're not
really willing, really willing to be insulated or inspired. They
(08:28):
just want you to endorse their perspective. So I think,
leave me alone. You already know what you're gonna do.
You already made up your mind before you got here.
Don't take up my life with things like that. The
whole relationship between Paul and Timothy are is quite interesting.
(08:50):
Timothy has a generational relationship with God that goes back
to his grandmother and his mother, eunus and laws, and
he is the tear of that generation. He esteeped in faith,
He has inherited and been nurtured in an atmosphere of faith,
and yet he still needs to be mentored. The fact
(09:11):
that you grew up in church doesn't mean that you
don't need to be mentored. Mentored in different areas of
your life, spiritually, economically, handling finances, being mentored as a husband.
The fact that you know Jesus doesn't mean that you
know how to be a great husband. The fact that
you know Jesus doesn't mean that you know how to
budget your checkbook. The fact that you know Jesus doesn't
(09:32):
mean that you know how to start a business. Stop
conflating faith and using it in areas where it is
not appropriate. It will not negate the fact that you
might really be a believer. God may have really really
shoot open the business. That doesn't take away from the
fact that you need to be mentored and developed to
grow in that area. So a bond develops between the
(09:55):
mentee and the mentor. It is a strong connection. It
is Elf and Elijah, It is Ruth and Naomi. It
is John and Jesus, it is Paul and Timothy. In
each case there's the emotional spiritual connection that occurs, or
(10:16):
you can't do it. You're being fed at the breast
of the person who's pouring into you. You're you're you're
actually nursing off of their experience. They're they're guiding you
around pitfalls and mistakes, and there's a gratitude and appreciation,
uh and an honor that goes along with it. You
don't pick somebody because they're the biggest or the brightest,
(10:38):
or they have the most degrees or or the southe
of their church. Their ability to really inform you, insulate you,
and inspire you. It's the criteria of great leadership.
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