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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is important that we look at this with a
very clear understanding of contextualization, because when people step into
the middle of your story, they misdiagnose who you are
(00:22):
and they make false assumptions based on brief statements. We're
living in an age now where people will take a
snippet of a sermon and write an argument against a
snippet a phrase, one statement you put out, and they
say they know you by a phrase, as if you
(00:46):
could be reduced to a sentence. See the quickest way
to get into heresy is to take a text out
of context. Now, I'm all for technology, but sometimes when
people text me, I had to pick up the phone
and call them because sometimes you meant it in one way,
but I read it in another way, and before I respond,
(01:09):
I read it. I just want to be sure. Do
you really mean for me to go off like I'm
getting ready to go off, you know, I just want
to be sure. Let's set some rules straight, because I
might have read it in the wrong tour and most
of the time I was wrong. Because it is difficult
(01:31):
to deliver sensitive information in the text.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Because the text does not give you contexts.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So as we read this brief statement, these four verses
of scripture in the Gospel of Saint Mark, Chapter one.
I'm not sure that this text of a scripture gives
us contexts. Jesus wasn't born in the wilderness, neither did
he grow up in a wilderness. Okay, nor was he
(02:06):
about passed in a wilderness, and yet he finds himself
in the wilderness. I have been in the same spot
that Jesus was in. I had the privilege years ago
of going to Jerusalem, and not only going to Jerusalem,
which is amazing, but going down to the Jordan and
across the Jordan River into the country of Jordan. And
(02:29):
when you cross the Jordan River, you are standing in
what is now currently called Jordan, and you're on your
way to Amon.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But you have to go through the wilderness to get there.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And little did I know that the same wilderness I
was standing in is the wilderness in which Jesus was tempted.
Is also the place where Elijah comes, having crossed Sir Jordan.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
To be cut up in the chariot fire.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So the history of the text goes archaeologically deep into
the soil of the same space. A lot of things
happen in the same geographical location. So in the same
place that God sends a chariot down from heaven to
evacuate Elijah out of the human capacities of this mundane,
(03:24):
ritualistic world, it is in that same spot where he
allows the Spirit to carry Jesus to be dimpted. Have
you ever had a spot that provoked many different memories?
A house you used to live in and you can
remember good times and mad times, a person you grew
(03:47):
up with and you remember something nice, and you remember
something yeah, yeah, yeah. Spaces are complicated, and the Spirit
has brought him to this place. But I don't want
to take the text out of context. It is important,
(04:07):
and we understand that Jesus has dropped off the scene
for at least eighteen years.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We know nothing.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And it is funny to me because the Bible gives
us the highlights of the life of Jesus and not
the nothing moments of his life. And the hardest parts
of walking with God are through the days of nothingness.
They're neither hot nor cold, They're neither good nor bad.
It's just to her, I just woke up, I just
(04:43):
made it through another day. What you're doing nothing? You
know what you're doing this stuff, This stuff I gotta do.
Can I stay with God through days of nothingness? Eighteen
years are obscure from us, where Jesus is just a
no name carpenter's son, moving about, growing up from twelve
(05:08):
to thirty years old.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
In total obscurity.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He doesn't pick up again until this new highly successful
and accomplish, disruptive thinking John. I call him a disruptor
because he broke all of his father's rules and wan
doing it. He didn't dress like a priest, he didn't
eat like a priest, he didn't function in the synagogue.
(05:37):
He was in the wilderness, eating wild locusts and honey
and dressed in camel's hair.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Don't be scared to be different. Different does not this
and all greatness.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
In fact, it actually confirms greatness. Nobody writes books about
ordinary go to in the library. You won't see any
books written about people who weren't disruptive.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Or in some way extraordinya.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And you have to understand that and realize that Jesus
spends eighteen years that we know nothing about, and then
at thirty years old, he's in the crowd, not on
the stage. He's in the crowd, not on the program.
(06:29):
He's in the back row of the crowd coming to
hear his cousin John, and he comes down to the
Jordan and all the eyes are on John, and none
of them are on Jesus, because charmed about this was
a new hot thing. And you know how we love
(06:49):
the new hot thing. I tell young preachers when you
start at church, you're only new ones. Your only new ones.
So while you knew you might have rock and go
all the way with it, because as soon as people
get used to you, they start taking you for granted.
(07:10):
I won't go this week, I'll go next week. I'll
check it out later, I'll check it out online. If
I get to it, I'll come to it. That's what
happens in any relationship. Familiarity breeds contempt. If you want
to stay fresh day bach because if you overexpose yourself,
(07:30):
no matter how good you are, right what you do,
people get used to you. You can sing the paint
off the wall, but if you sing all the time,
they get used to your riffs and rubs, and the
person they shouted about today they ignore tomorrow. You can
be the greatest wife in the world and celebrate it
for the first few years. But after a while they
(07:51):
get used to it and they want to know, are
they any new tricks?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So save some.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Don't hit everything on the first week, Holly, come on, somebody,
don't send everything in the first way. Don't tell everything
in the first way, because you gotta keep it fresh.
You gotta update, you gotta remain interesting, you gotta keep reading,
you gotta keep developing yourself. Because once people get used
to you, they walk past you, they ignore you. They
(08:20):
are past Jesus to get to John, because Seng's the
new thing, and he was bad, and he was disruptive,
and he was dressed different, and he would you know,
and they.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Was coming to hear him and then check him out.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And while John is baptizing in the Jordan, nobody is
talking about Jesus. You better go make some shoes somewhere,
or make a table or chair somewhere. Push passing Jesus
trying to get to John. Often we pushed past the
greater trying to get to the because it takes time
(09:03):
to fulfill, to reveal greatness. And when time has not
exposed who you really are, people shove you to the side,
trying to get to something that is less than what's
down inside of you, and you got to be okay
with it, because that's a test too. Obscurity is a
test too. Being ignored is a test too. Being treated
(09:27):
as ordinary is a test too, to make sure that
your ego is low enough that when God exults you,
you won't start worshiping yourself. He'll let people push past
you and say how you like me now? Because He
doesn't want you to be ego driven. He wants you
to be spirit lead, and you can't be spirit lead
(09:49):
and ego driven. So God allows people.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
To walk past you till you aloud, walking past the
water walking gee.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Can you imagine walking past the dead raising Jesus? Can
you imagine walking past to Jesus who turned water into wine?
Can you imagine who you might have walked past this morning?
And Jesus does not stop them from walking past him.
(10:25):
He doesn't whip out his business cards, he doesn't start
doing sideshow miracles to get on their itinerary.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I like him cause he got class. There's a difference
between education and class. There's a difference between money and class.
There's a difference between a great.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Vocabulary and class. I'm not sure you can teach class, Jesus.
Class makes you handle rejection. Class makes you handle not
being celebrated. Class won't let you just do anything to
get on the itinerary because you think too much of
(11:04):
yourself to lower yourself down to make yourself a tramp
for somebody just so you can get their attention. Class
will make you weight. Class will make you hung a pillow.
Class will make you roll over by yourself. Class will
make you hold your head up when other people are
like knowing you. Class will make you sit back and
(11:24):
let them take somebody listen.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
To the day.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Class Jesus said, absolutely. Class. Oh my god, I think
I'm still on the road. I feel I'm preaching up
in here. If you're messing with me this morning, it's
gonna be church up in this place. I feel something
flowing up in this place right now. I want to
celebrate all the people who have kept their class. It
wasn't that you wasn't lonely, but you kept your class.
(11:47):
It wasn't that you weren't qualified, but you be a class.
It wasn't that God wasn't gonna use you in nobody way,
but you hell out to your integrity, show lost separate thing, buy.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Hell load to his integrity.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Without your integrity, you got nothing that Your integrity is
determined by what you won't do. There are some things
that I'm just not gonna do. I'm just not gonna
do that. I'm just not gonna do that. If I
go broke, I'm not gonna do that. If I have
(12:23):
to sell the car, I'm not gonna do that. If
I have to sell the shoes, I'm not gonna do it.
I just not gonna do it because I think too
much of myself. You don't know me, but he does.
And all of a sudden, John the Baptist looks up
with his feet standing in the Jordan River, in the
(12:44):
same Jordan river that Joshua's feet had stood in, the
same Jordan that went hither and thither and the children
of Israel had walked across on dry ground. John is
standing in that same Jordan, the same Jordan where they
took out the twelve smooth stones, where the feet of
the priesthood firm. John is now standing in that same Jordan.
(13:07):
Only instead of him pulling out a rock, He's about
to reveal the rock, the rock of ages, the rock
in a weary land, the rock in a short place.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm talking about Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Everybody's looking at John, but John looks up.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And he sees Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And how you manage greatness has a lot to do
with how you end up. A lot of people will
not shine a light on anybody who might make them
look less.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Let me have, sir.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
John, since behold, don't keep looking at me. Behold there's
some of them greater than me. Behold the one you
walk past, Behold the one you overlook, Behold the one
you ignored. Here is the lamb.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Of God.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Will take it away the sins of the world and
the payble, says the crowd parts. Jesus goes from obscurity
to notoriety in a step. You think it's gonna take years,
You're just gonna step.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Into what God has just just.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
The STEP's already been ordered. Don't worry about the stage.
Pray for the step. If you make the step, the
stage will take care of itself. Too many people are
in love with the stage and not the steps, so
they get on the stage. They can't stay on it
because they don't take the steps to qualify find them
for the stage. Don't pray for the stage, pray for
(15:03):
the step. The stats of a good man are ordered
by the Lord, and heed the lighted in his way.
I feel something in this place. I feel something in
this place. Something is about to break loose in this place.
It is important that we look at this with a
very clear understanding of contextualization, because when people step into
the middle of your story, they misdiagnose who you are
(00:22):
and they make false assumptions based on brief statements. We're
living in an age now where people will take a
snippet of a sermon and write an argument against a
snippet a phrase, one statement you put out, and they
say they know you by a phrase, as if you
(00:46):
could be reduced to a sentence. See the quickest way
to get into heresy is to take a text out
of context. Now, I'm all for technology, but sometimes when
people text me, I had to pick up the phone
and call them because sometimes you meant it in one way,
but I read it in another way, and before I respond,
(01:09):
I read it. I just want to be sure. Do
you really mean for me to go off like I'm
getting ready to go off, you know, I just want
to be sure. Let's set some rules straight, because I
might have read it in the wrong tour and most
of the time I was wrong. Because it is difficult
(01:31):
to deliver sensitive information in the text.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Because the text does not give you contexts.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So as we read this brief statement, these four verses
of scripture in the Gospel of Saint Mark, Chapter one.
I'm not sure that this text of a scripture gives
us contexts. Jesus wasn't born in the wilderness, neither did
he grow up in a wilderness. Okay, nor was he
(02:06):
about passed in a wilderness, and yet he finds himself
in the wilderness. I have been in the same spot
that Jesus was in. I had the privilege years ago
of going to Jerusalem, and not only going to Jerusalem,
which is amazing, but going down to the Jordan and
across the Jordan River into the country of Jordan. And
(02:29):
when you cross the Jordan River, you are standing in
what is now currently called Jordan, and you're on your
way to Amon.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But you have to go through the wilderness to get there.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And little did I know that the same wilderness I
was standing in is the wilderness in which Jesus was tempted.
Is also the place where Elijah comes, having crossed Sir Jordan.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
To be cut up in the chariot fire.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So the history of the text goes archaeologically deep into
the soil of the same space. A lot of things
happen in the same geographical location. So in the same
place that God sends a chariot down from heaven to
evacuate Elijah out of the human capacities of this mundane,
(03:24):
ritualistic world, it is in that same spot where he
allows the Spirit to carry Jesus to be dimpted. Have
you ever had a spot that provoked many different memories?
A house you used to live in and you can
remember good times and mad times, a person you grew
(03:47):
up with and you remember something nice, and you remember
something yeah, yeah, yeah. Spaces are complicated, and the Spirit
has brought him to this place. But I don't want
to take the text out of context. It is important,
(04:07):
and we understand that Jesus has dropped off the scene
for at least eighteen years.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We know nothing.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And it is funny to me because the Bible gives
us the highlights of the life of Jesus and not
the nothing moments of his life. And the hardest parts
of walking with God are through the days of nothingness.
They're neither hot nor cold, They're neither good nor bad.
It's just to her, I just woke up, I just
(04:43):
made it through another day. What you're doing nothing? You
know what you're doing this stuff, This stuff I gotta do.
Can I stay with God through days of nothingness? Eighteen
years are obscure from us, where Jesus is just a
no name carpenter's son, moving about, growing up from twelve
(05:08):
to thirty years old.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
In total obscurity.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He doesn't pick up again until this new highly successful
and accomplish, disruptive thinking John. I call him a disruptor
because he broke all of his father's rules and wan
doing it. He didn't dress like a priest, he didn't
eat like a priest, he didn't function in the synagogue.
(05:37):
He was in the wilderness, eating wild locusts and honey
and dressed in camel's hair.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Don't be scared to be different. Different does not this
and all greatness.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
In fact, it actually confirms greatness. Nobody writes books about
ordinary go to in the library. You won't see any
books written about people who weren't disruptive.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Or in some way extraordinya.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And you have to understand that and realize that Jesus
spends eighteen years that we know nothing about, and then
at thirty years old, he's in the crowd, not on
the stage. He's in the crowd, not on the program.
(06:29):
He's in the back row of the crowd coming to
hear his cousin John, and he comes down to the
Jordan and all the eyes are on John, and none
of them are on Jesus, because charmed about this was
a new hot thing. And you know how we love
(06:49):
the new hot thing. I tell young preachers when you
start at church, you're only new ones. Your only new ones.
So while you knew you might have rock and go
all the way with it, because as soon as people
get used to you, they start taking you for granted.
(07:10):
I won't go this week, I'll go next week. I'll
check it out later, I'll check it out online. If
I get to it, I'll come to it. That's what
happens in any relationship. Familiarity breeds contempt. If you want
to stay fresh day bach because if you overexpose yourself,
(07:30):
no matter how good you are, right what you do,
people get used to you. You can sing the paint
off the wall, but if you sing all the time,
they get used to your riffs and rubs, and the
person they shouted about today they ignore tomorrow. You can
be the greatest wife in the world and celebrate it
for the first few years. But after a while they
(07:51):
get used to it and they want to know, are
they any new tricks?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So save some.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Don't hit everything on the first week, Holly, come on, somebody,
don't send everything in the first way. Don't tell everything
in the first way, because you gotta keep it fresh.
You gotta update, you gotta remain interesting, you gotta keep reading,
you gotta keep developing yourself. Because once people get used
to you, they walk past you, they ignore you. They
(08:20):
are past Jesus to get to John, because Seng's the
new thing, and he was bad, and he was disruptive,
and he was dressed different, and he would you know,
and they.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Was coming to hear him and then check him out.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And while John is baptizing in the Jordan, nobody is
talking about Jesus. You better go make some shoes somewhere,
or make a table or chair somewhere. Push passing Jesus
trying to get to John. Often we pushed past the
greater trying to get to the because it takes time
(09:03):
to fulfill, to reveal greatness. And when time has not
exposed who you really are, people shove you to the side,
trying to get to something that is less than what's
down inside of you, and you got to be okay
with it, because that's a test too. Obscurity is a
test too. Being ignored is a test too. Being treated
(09:27):
as ordinary is a test too, to make sure that
your ego is low enough that when God exults you,
you won't start worshiping yourself. He'll let people push past
you and say how you like me now? Because He
doesn't want you to be ego driven. He wants you
to be spirit lead, and you can't be spirit lead
(09:49):
and ego driven. So God allows people.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
To walk past you till you aloud, walking past the
water walking gee.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Can you imagine walking past the dead raising Jesus? Can
you imagine walking past to Jesus who turned water into wine?
Can you imagine who you might have walked past this morning?
And Jesus does not stop them from walking past him.
(10:25):
He doesn't whip out his business cards, he doesn't start
doing sideshow miracles to get on their itinerary.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I like him cause he got class. There's a difference
between education and class. There's a difference between money and class.
There's a difference between a great.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Vocabulary and class. I'm not sure you can teach class, Jesus.
Class makes you handle rejection. Class makes you handle not
being celebrated. Class won't let you just do anything to
get on the itinerary because you think too much of
(11:04):
yourself to lower yourself down to make yourself a tramp
for somebody just so you can get their attention. Class
will make you weight. Class will make you hung a pillow.
Class will make you roll over by yourself. Class will
make you hold your head up when other people are
like knowing you. Class will make you sit back and
(11:24):
let them take somebody listen.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
To the day.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Class Jesus said, absolutely. Class. Oh my god, I think
I'm still on the road. I feel I'm preaching up
in here. If you're messing with me this morning, it's
gonna be church up in this place. I feel something
flowing up in this place right now. I want to
celebrate all the people who have kept their class. It
wasn't that you wasn't lonely, but you kept your class.
(11:47):
It wasn't that you weren't qualified, but you be a class.
It wasn't that God wasn't gonna use you in nobody way,
but you hell out to your integrity, show lost separate thing, buy.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Hell load to his integrity.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Without your integrity, you got nothing that Your integrity is
determined by what you won't do. There are some things
that I'm just not gonna do. I'm just not gonna
do that. I'm just not gonna do that. If I
go broke, I'm not gonna do that. If I have
(12:23):
to sell the car, I'm not gonna do that. If
I have to sell the shoes, I'm not gonna do it.
I just not gonna do it because I think too
much of myself. You don't know me, but he does.
And all of a sudden, John the Baptist looks up
with his feet standing in the Jordan River, in the
(12:44):
same Jordan river that Joshua's feet had stood in, the
same Jordan that went hither and thither and the children
of Israel had walked across on dry ground. John is
standing in that same Jordan, the same Jordan where they
took out the twelve smooth stones, where the feet of
the priesthood firm. John is now standing in that same Jordan.
(13:07):
Only instead of him pulling out a rock, He's about
to reveal the rock, the rock of ages, the rock
in a weary land, the rock in a short place.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm talking about Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Everybody's looking at John, but John looks up.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And he sees Jesus.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And how you manage greatness has a lot to do
with how you end up. A lot of people will
not shine a light on anybody who might make them
look less.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Let me have, sir.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
John, since behold, don't keep looking at me. Behold there's
some of them greater than me. Behold the one you
walk past, Behold the one you overlook, Behold the one
you ignored. Here is the lamb.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Of God.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Will take it away the sins of the world and
the payble, says the crowd parts. Jesus goes from obscurity
to notoriety in a step. You think it's gonna take years,
You're just gonna step.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Into what God has just just.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
The STEP's already been ordered. Don't worry about the stage.
Pray for the step. If you make the step, the
stage will take care of itself. Too many people are
in love with the stage and not the steps, so
they get on the stage. They can't stay on it
because they don't take the steps to qualify find them
for the stage. Don't pray for the stage, pray for
(15:03):
the step. The stats of a good man are ordered
by the Lord, and heed the lighted in his way.
I feel something in this place. I feel something in
this place. Something is about to break loose in this place.
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