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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Brady Bar tot line. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Someone the likes Lakes Country.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
I know that, Yes he does. He's our first guest
on our Rick Electric Daily guest lineup, Sam Herder Hero
Sports here with us your favorite lake in Minnesota to visit,
Sam favorite Lake to get things started off here on Tuesday,
most recently.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Long Lake, which is near Saint Cloud. That's the one
I kind of frequent most often nowadays. But I had
a buddy that was on Ottertail Lake. Okay, so you
know in high school and college went to Autertail Lake
and Absorbos and beach Bomb. So that was back in
the day. That was my place to go. But more
currently near a lake near Saint Cloud is where I
(00:43):
frequent more more recently.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Can't do much better than that. I'm sure you got
a little Hero Sports koozy as well. We've seen that
time or two out there on social media. It's a
great time to get out to the lakes for sure.
Also a great time for some FCS news. We've had
a bevy of it. It's felt like here over the
last couple of weeks. And the main reason we're happening
you on is because we had really some more of it,
I guess more finalized news yesterday from some things we've
already heard from you and others about the Summit League
(01:07):
and the Missouri Valley Football Conference. I'm not gonna say merger,
but a partnership coming together and a deal between those
two leagues to try and boost the Summit League's bargaining
power but also maybe help the Missouri Valley Football Conference
at the same time.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Tell us what you know, Yeah, I think it's something
that a lot of fans and even media will kind
of ask, like, what exactly does all this mean? It? Right,
it's a lot of jargon and it's a lot of
kind of cliche terms of you know, it's gonna improve
efficiency and it's going to grow our brand in all that,
(01:42):
and I don't know like all the ins and outs
of how exactly that is all going to happen, but
you know, to kind of break it down on simple terms,
the Summit League, you know, it's kind of how it
is going to take over a bit more ownership over
the Missouri Valley Football Conference, help out with the day
to day operations, help out with some budget carry stuff,
(02:02):
you know, when it comes to decision making and voting,
that has changed a little bit, and so it's something
I think I've said this before too on Your Guys Show.
Are fans really going to notice much of a difference?
Not really? Are media going to notice much of a difference?
Not really. I think there could potentially be an in
person media day for Value Football. I think you could
(02:23):
maybe see some improvements on social media, so stuff like that.
You'll notice the difference. You know. The one thing that
fans might notice is this could lead to some realignment news,
you know, down the rogues. I do think this gives
the Summit League some bargaining power when it comes to
potentially adding members because now you know, if a if
(02:43):
a school joins the Summer League, their their football program
will now automatically have a home in the Missouri Valley
Football Conference, which was already kind of the case but
it required two separate votes and decision making. Now it's
it's all kind of wrapped into one. And so that
is one thing where fans would notice if this move
does lead to some new members joining the Summer League
slash the Missouri Valley Football Conference.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sam, is there a timeline on when potential new members
could come to the Summit and then, like you just mentioned,
have that automatic ticket into Valley football. Would it be
this summer, because I know twenty twenty six is kind
of like this next cycle realignment at the power level
and it trickles down or would it be a little
(03:25):
further down the line. Do you have a sense of
the time on that.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'm not totally sure. A lot of it is kind
of centered around the United Athletic Conference, which is kind
of on you know, slash the Whack, which is kind
of on shaky ground right now. I know, I believe
that Utah Valley has some you know, some some different
suitors as far as conference is interested in adding Utah Valley,
and I think that could potentially start the domino effect
(03:52):
of you know, where does Southern Utah then end up?
Where does Utah Tech end up? I know, you you
have teams in Texas where a team like Ablin Christian
and Tarleton States. You know, do they want to sit
around and wait for the Whack or the United that
Otic Conference to collapse or do they want to you know,
make a move and maybe be a bit more aggressive
and making a jump and maybe the summer league Slash
(04:13):
Valley Football targets those teams you know down in Texas
that that I just mentioned, And so I don't know
when exactly we're going to start to see these dominoes falling.
You could potentially cease some movements happening this summer. But it's,
as you guys know, trying to guess in realignment is
really hard because it's it seemed, but things can change,
(04:33):
you know, in a week, and then another week it
goes the other way. So it's really hard to know
for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Sam Herder, Hero Sports with us on the Brady March
hot Line. I read they were trying to potentially get
a media day in person for the Missouri Valley Football Conference.
Is a part of this move in partnership, Sam, Do
you think that could be a possibility for this coming
August and if so, any locations that you think would
be good fits.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah. I think that's what they're working on right now,
is trying to potentially do one this summer. It'd be
late July. They're just working through some budget things. Location
is well, they're they're working through that, and so again,
I don't know for sure if it's going to happen
this summer, but they're at least, you know, looking at
it and looking at the cost. I vote Minneapolis, you
(05:22):
know that's a that's that's where I'm at, and it's
it's you know, it's easy for the Dakotas in northern
Iowa to get there, but you could you know, Sue Falls,
maybe you know Saint Louis is maybe a decent middle
spot as well. But that is something they're kind of
looking at as just what the cost would be that
you have to fly coaches and s I d s
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and ads and a couple of players to to know,
you know, wherever the place is at. Maybe you know,
if they're within driving distance that helps as well. You
got a few nights of hotels, So there there is
a cost to it, of course. So I think they're
just kind of working through through that to see if
if it is something they can pull off this summer,
and and if so, that it be late.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
July, especially without Missouri State in the league anymore. I
know we got Murray State, but it makes I don't
think it makes a lot of sense to go further
south than like Iowa, honestly, and you've got Illinois states
and southern Illinois can kind of come over to stuff,
and I think Minneapolis can make a lot of sense.
How that, Yeah, Youngstown State's can have to travel probably
to wherever it would be at, but we would be there.
I think it'd be a lot of fun to have
(06:21):
an in person media day there for the Missouri Valley
Football Conference. Can Sam Herder here with US Hero Sports
bat MGM as the Valley and the Missouri Valley Football
Conference doing a partnership here? Moving forward from the two sides,
I get this from the Summit League side, you think
you laid it out well, we have before of the
Summer League when you look at it, you know, baseball, softball,
some of the soccer, pro you know, programs don't have
(06:43):
a ton of them in those sports, and you're trying
to stay above the number you need for just playoff eligibility.
So I think it makes a ton of sense from
the Summer League side that you can go to teams
or schools now and say, hey, come join our league.
We'll get you in the Missouri Valley Football Conference as well.
Why is this happening from the Missouri Valley Conference side.
Why is the mv SEE, which I know is a
separate entity from the football conference. Why were they so like, oh, Yeah, whatever,
(07:06):
Just you guys go join the Summer League. I have
a partnership with the Summit League.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, that's a good question. And I'm not sure exactly
how those how those conversations wins. You know, it is
interesting that Jeff Jackson, who is the Missouri Valley Conference commissioner,
he's now the new or the next Missouri Valley Football
Conference commissioner. I mean, he's gonna stay on with the
MBC as well, so he'll be commissioners for both of
those leagues, you know. And then you know, Josh Fenton
(07:34):
from the Summer League has kind of been an executive advisor,
you know, type of role, and so it kind of
seems like from what I've read, and I know, like
the Southern Illinois Athletic director was talking about this and
he said, this does give uh, the the Dakota schools
you know, aka the Summer League members a bit more
power and a bit more say when it comes to membership.
(07:55):
And so maybe as kind of media them halfway, they
decided to go with you know, Jackson as as the
commissioner of the of the Missouri Valley Football Conference. Meanwhile,
you know Fenton will kind of be his number two
in work arm in arm as far as decision making,
h you know, process. But you know, initially I thought
this would you know, maybe put the Missouri Valley Football
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Conference into like more into one of the all sports conference.
But it still is going to be a separate entity.
It still is going to be a single sport conference,
a football only conference, which does come with challenges just
in the overall NC double A government governance structure and
you know, having representation on all the different boards and
committees within the NC double A. So I wasn't sure
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if they were going to stay a single sport conference.
I thought maybe they were going to go in more
into one of the all sports conference, but that obviously
didn't happen. But it would have been interesting to sit
in on these meetings, you know, throughout the last year
and a half, just to see how they ultimately came to, uh,
this conclusion of of doing things the way they were
doing them.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Sam Herder here with us on the Brady March Hotline.
I want to talk a little bit about the portal
here in the spring. Sam, we've gotten to the cycle
of the portal where now the teams have you can
enter and the windows closed now teams are starting to
add here at the FCS level, and it seems like
every time I open up Twitter, there's some other tweet,
(09:17):
whether it's from you or Zach mckittle or whoever else
is covering FCS. So and so's going here, and it's
an FCS to FCS transfer that this is their production
and a lot of teams have been adding here. I
look at STSU, I look at USD. Montana has been
adding a lot through the portal. We know they've embraced that.
I think it's a little bit of a shit for
USD and SDSU to change their mentality because they have
(09:40):
no nooise right losing a lot. Yeah, UND as well.
A lot of these sax State players are floating around.
All that to say, when you take a look at
everything objectively, not just quantity of players added, but which
team do you think in this spring portal window has
been the biggest winner as far as getting guys that
(10:00):
fit needs that they have, that can come in and
produce right away and help them contend to get to
Nashville and the FCS a spring portal winner so far
in your eyes. As far as who they've added.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, thinks for the spring, Like, if you go back,
I think the biggest winner is UIW, but most of
their additions came during the winter. I mean they added
three former FCS All Americans, you know, a couple more
FCS All conference guys, and so I think the biggest
winner overall is UIW. You can probably put Sack State
there as well, just with the volume of transfers that
(10:36):
they have coming in. I think I saw fifty plus
transfers coming into Sacramento State, which is a while to
see how how well that will gel or not. But
as far as the spring portal window, I really like
what both South Dakota teams are doing. You look at
USD and you know, they added an all conference tight
end from I believe it was Lafayette. I want to
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say they added an offensive lineman from Katanduga who started
in multiple games. And so USD. You know, I think
is has made some additions. Maybe some of it is
out of necessity because of you know the amount of
guys they lost during the spring portal window. I mean,
I also like what South Kota State is doing as well.
I think it's a it's a good mix with the
Jack Rabberts are doing because you know, they brought in,
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you know, a couple of D two guys. I think
there was like a D two All Conference linebacker from
two Balls that came in. They're bringing in guys from
power forward programs that didn't get a whole lot of
playing time at their power force schools and so those
are always kind of unknown. But okay, they have a
wide receiver from Nebraska, they have some dbs from Iowa.
You know, they were at those schools for a reason,
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but they also didn't play it, you know, potentially for
a reason. So how big of an impact are those
guys going to make That's a bit of an unknown.
But along with that, they're also bringing in a good
group of FCS transfers. You know, they brought in I
believe his name is Nate Adams, who was an All
a Conference offensive lineman from Stephen F. Austin. Most recently,
they brought in Julius low Rich from Fordham who is
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a back to back first team All Conference selection, back
to back, you know, a thousand yard rusher. They brought
in a couple of Sacramento State guys who logged a
lot of snaps last year, and those are usually the
ones that for me personally moved the needle the most.
I mean you can. There are so many guys that
were four star recruits, were at some SEC school, they
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come to the FCS, they make headlines because there were
this kind of you know, big high school recruits, and
they don't really pan out's in the FCS for whatever reason.
Those ones don't really move the needle for me. The
ones that I usually take notice of is when an
FCS team can land an FCS player who made an
impact on their previous teams, because you've seen that guy
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have success at the FCS level. And so I think
South Dakota State has a pretty good mix of D
two guys, FCS guys that are proven commodity of these
and then bringing in FBS guys that have a high
level of talent but they just haven't logged a whole
lot of college snaps.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Makes a lot of sense. To Sam's point, you do
see a ton of guys at this time of ye
these last couple of weeks, it seems like every team's
adding two or three a week over these next couple
of weeks, and hey, NDSU's been adding a couple of
them as well. Last one for me, for you and
kind of back to this stuff at the Missouri Valley
Football Conference in the Summit League. I know we talked
before about, you know, whether it be the Utah conglomerate
(13:20):
to schools or the Texas conglomerate of schools that maybe
will join the league. Have any timeline for when you
think more news on that comes out of those teams
potentially looking to join one of the leagues, And is
there anyone that you think is kind of the favorite
right now?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, originally I thought maybe it was going to be
the Utah schools. I think maybe the more likely add
would be the Texas schools, which would be Tarleton State,
Applin Christian and then a non football team or a
non football school. I believe U te Arlington if I'm
not mistaken, I think they're maybe more favored to join
(13:57):
the Summer League last Missouri Valley Football Conference than the
Utah schools. At the same time, you know, there's a
chance that none of them joined. I think a lot
of it depends on what happens with the WHACK, what
happens with United Athletic Conference, if they could find stability,
I mean, if Tarlton State had a magic wand they
would go to the FBS as soon as possible, but
that invite has yet to come, and so it really
(14:18):
is hard to know the exact timeline. It seems like
sometimes in the summer is when domino start to fall,
just because when you join a conference, who typically joined
July first, and so you want to give your former
conference at least a year notice that you're leaving. And
so if any teams are going to join the summer
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in the Missouri Valley Football Conference in twenty twenty six,
they typically would like to make that announcement before July first,
twenty twenty five, this upcoming summer. And so maybe in
the next couple of months we'll see some movement, but
it's hard to know for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Sam last one for me, how about cam Miller and
Time a Lot both on the Las Vegas Raiders. I
think souls are connected here as far as NDSU and
Montana's state, and you just can't write it two picks
or one pick apart. And now those two who have
battled in a couple of FCS title games are now
going to be teammates of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, it's it's it's cool just there to see how
their paths have crossed, you know, really ever since twenty
twenty one, and you know, not only to land up
the same team in the NFL, but you know they're
drafted two picks apart from each other. You know, I'm
I'm tweeting about Tommy Mallot and you know, right as
I'm firing off that tweet, and that's the you know,
Cam Miller, you know, get selected, they're trying to hurry
(15:39):
to get that tweet out as well. So I think
it's a great spot for both. I really do think
Kam Miller can carve himself out of a nice NFL career.
You know, might not be a starter, but hey, if
you're a if you're an East and Stick like backup,
you know, you're that's that's a that's a pretty good
career right there. And you know, I think Tommy Mallott
could carve himself out, carve himself out a nice role
as well. You know, he's not an NFL quarterback, but
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he's definitely an NFL level athlete. And so how they
how they utilize him as a wide receiver, special teams
type guy, maybe some type of wildcat quarterback will be
really interesting. But I definitely think both those guys have
a really good chance to you know, make the roster
of the practice squad and you know, kind of have
a nice lenk.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
The NFL career backup quarterback have said it for a while,
probably one of the best jobs in America. Make all
the money, you don't get hit.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think that you just find sit on the sidelines there.
I know they're all competitors, they want to play, but yeah,
like you said, Easton Sticks made a lot of money
and just in a backup role gotten there in a
couple of games. You did mention sack State a little
while ago as a winner maybe in the portal. Do
we count them as fcs for this year? What are
we doing there with poles and everything.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
As of right now, yes, because they still haven't gotten
their waiver, still hasn't gotten approved yet to go FBS independence.
You know, the FBS Oversight Committee is meeting later this
month and we'll see if they'll vote on that or not,
and it goes to the D one Council, which that
next meetiing, I think would be in June. So we
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still don't know if sax State is going to get
that waiver approved. If they hypothetically, let's say they do
get that waiver approved, they would join the FBS in
twenty twenty six. They would still be an FTS member
this year in twenty twenty five, but they would not
be eligible for the playoffs, which means, you know, as
far as the media poll, they went eligible to be
(17:25):
voted on in the media poll, And so I kind
of have the I have the expectations that sax State
will not be playoff eligible this year because I do
think they are going to get that waiver approved. But
as we as we sit right now, they're they're fully
FTS members, and they don't have that pathway to the
FBS approved just yet.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I've got Shaquille O'Neal as a general nager. They've got
Mike Bibbie on basketball. Yeah, they've got a little crazy.
It's been awesome though. Well, Sam, will let you enjoy
some time they're out on the lakes here over the
next couple of months, but appreciate the time today, and
I'm sure we'll catch up with you again here throughout
this summer.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
All right, it was great with me, and thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Thanks Sam, Sam Herder here with us on the inside
our strangers,
The Brady Bar tot line. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Someone the likes Lakes Country.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
I know that, Yes he does. He's our first guest
on our Rick Electric Daily guest lineup, Sam Herder Hero
Sports here with us your favorite lake in Minnesota to visit,
Sam favorite Lake to get things started off here on Tuesday,
most recently.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Long Lake, which is near Saint Cloud. That's the one
I kind of frequent most often nowadays. But I had
a buddy that was on Ottertail Lake. Okay, so you
know in high school and college went to Autertail Lake
and Absorbos and beach Bomb. So that was back in
the day. That was my place to go. But more
currently near a lake near Saint Cloud is where I
(00:43):
frequent more more recently.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Can't do much better than that. I'm sure you got
a little Hero Sports koozy as well. We've seen that
time or two out there on social media. It's a
great time to get out to the lakes for sure.
Also a great time for some FCS news. We've had
a bevy of it. It's felt like here over the
last couple of weeks. And the main reason we're happening
you on is because we had really some more of it,
I guess more finalized news yesterday from some things we've
already heard from you and others about the Summit League
(01:07):
and the Missouri Valley Football Conference. I'm not gonna say merger,
but a partnership coming together and a deal between those
two leagues to try and boost the Summit League's bargaining
power but also maybe help the Missouri Valley Football Conference
at the same time.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Tell us what you know, Yeah, I think it's something
that a lot of fans and even media will kind
of ask, like, what exactly does all this mean? It? Right,
it's a lot of jargon and it's a lot of
kind of cliche terms of you know, it's gonna improve
efficiency and it's going to grow our brand in all that,
(01:42):
and I don't know like all the ins and outs
of how exactly that is all going to happen, but
you know, to kind of break it down on simple terms,
the Summit League, you know, it's kind of how it
is going to take over a bit more ownership over
the Missouri Valley Football Conference, help out with the day
to day operations, help out with some budget carry stuff,
(02:02):
you know, when it comes to decision making and voting,
that has changed a little bit, and so it's something
I think I've said this before too on Your Guys Show.
Are fans really going to notice much of a difference?
Not really? Are media going to notice much of a difference?
Not really. I think there could potentially be an in
person media day for Value Football. I think you could
(02:23):
maybe see some improvements on social media, so stuff like that.
You'll notice the difference. You know. The one thing that
fans might notice is this could lead to some realignment news,
you know, down the rogues. I do think this gives
the Summit League some bargaining power when it comes to
potentially adding members because now you know, if a if
(02:43):
a school joins the Summer League, their their football program
will now automatically have a home in the Missouri Valley
Football Conference, which was already kind of the case but
it required two separate votes and decision making. Now it's
it's all kind of wrapped into one. And so that
is one thing where fans would notice if this move
does lead to some new members joining the Summer League
slash the Missouri Valley Football Conference.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sam, is there a timeline on when potential new members
could come to the Summit and then, like you just mentioned,
have that automatic ticket into Valley football. Would it be
this summer, because I know twenty twenty six is kind
of like this next cycle realignment at the power level
and it trickles down or would it be a little
(03:25):
further down the line. Do you have a sense of
the time on that.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'm not totally sure. A lot of it is kind
of centered around the United Athletic Conference, which is kind
of on you know, slash the Whack, which is kind
of on shaky ground right now. I know, I believe
that Utah Valley has some you know, some some different
suitors as far as conference is interested in adding Utah Valley,
and I think that could potentially start the domino effect
(03:52):
of you know, where does Southern Utah then end up?
Where does Utah Tech end up? I know, you you
have teams in Texas where a team like Ablin Christian
and Tarleton States. You know, do they want to sit
around and wait for the Whack or the United that
Otic Conference to collapse or do they want to you know,
make a move and maybe be a bit more aggressive
and making a jump and maybe the summer league Slash
(04:13):
Valley Football targets those teams you know down in Texas
that that I just mentioned, And so I don't know
when exactly we're going to start to see these dominoes falling.
You could potentially cease some movements happening this summer. But it's,
as you guys know, trying to guess in realignment is
really hard because it's it seemed, but things can change,
(04:33):
you know, in a week, and then another week it
goes the other way. So it's really hard to know
for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Sam Herder, Hero Sports with us on the Brady March
hot Line. I read they were trying to potentially get
a media day in person for the Missouri Valley Football Conference.
Is a part of this move in partnership, Sam, Do
you think that could be a possibility for this coming
August and if so, any locations that you think would
be good fits.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah. I think that's what they're working on right now,
is trying to potentially do one this summer. It'd be
late July. They're just working through some budget things. Location
is well, they're they're working through that, and so again,
I don't know for sure if it's going to happen
this summer, but they're at least, you know, looking at
it and looking at the cost. I vote Minneapolis, you
(05:22):
know that's a that's that's where I'm at, and it's
it's you know, it's easy for the Dakotas in northern
Iowa to get there, but you could you know, Sue Falls,
maybe you know Saint Louis is maybe a decent middle
spot as well. But that is something they're kind of
looking at as just what the cost would be that
you have to fly coaches and s I d s
(05:43):
and ads and a couple of players to to know,
you know, wherever the place is at. Maybe you know,
if they're within driving distance that helps as well. You
got a few nights of hotels, So there there is
a cost to it, of course. So I think they're
just kind of working through through that to see if
if it is something they can pull off this summer,
and and if so, that it be late.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
July, especially without Missouri State in the league anymore. I
know we got Murray State, but it makes I don't
think it makes a lot of sense to go further
south than like Iowa, honestly, and you've got Illinois states
and southern Illinois can kind of come over to stuff,
and I think Minneapolis can make a lot of sense.
How that, Yeah, Youngstown State's can have to travel probably
to wherever it would be at, but we would be there.
I think it'd be a lot of fun to have
(06:21):
an in person media day there for the Missouri Valley
Football Conference. Can Sam Herder here with US Hero Sports
bat MGM as the Valley and the Missouri Valley Football
Conference doing a partnership here? Moving forward from the two sides,
I get this from the Summit League side, you think
you laid it out well, we have before of the
Summer League when you look at it, you know, baseball, softball,
some of the soccer, pro you know, programs don't have
(06:43):
a ton of them in those sports, and you're trying
to stay above the number you need for just playoff eligibility.
So I think it makes a ton of sense from
the Summer League side that you can go to teams
or schools now and say, hey, come join our league.
We'll get you in the Missouri Valley Football Conference as well.
Why is this happening from the Missouri Valley Conference side.
Why is the mv SEE, which I know is a
separate entity from the football conference. Why were they so like, oh, Yeah, whatever,
(07:06):
Just you guys go join the Summer League. I have
a partnership with the Summit League.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, that's a good question. And I'm not sure exactly
how those how those conversations wins. You know, it is
interesting that Jeff Jackson, who is the Missouri Valley Conference commissioner,
he's now the new or the next Missouri Valley Football
Conference commissioner. I mean, he's gonna stay on with the
MBC as well, so he'll be commissioners for both of
those leagues, you know. And then you know, Josh Fenton
(07:34):
from the Summer League has kind of been an executive advisor,
you know, type of role, and so it kind of
seems like from what I've read, and I know, like
the Southern Illinois Athletic director was talking about this and
he said, this does give uh, the the Dakota schools
you know, aka the Summer League members a bit more
power and a bit more say when it comes to membership.
(07:55):
And so maybe as kind of media them halfway, they
decided to go with you know, Jackson as as the
commissioner of the of the Missouri Valley Football Conference. Meanwhile,
you know Fenton will kind of be his number two
in work arm in arm as far as decision making,
h you know, process. But you know, initially I thought
this would you know, maybe put the Missouri Valley Football
(08:16):
Conference into like more into one of the all sports conference.
But it still is going to be a separate entity.
It still is going to be a single sport conference,
a football only conference, which does come with challenges just
in the overall NC double A government governance structure and
you know, having representation on all the different boards and
committees within the NC double A. So I wasn't sure
(08:38):
if they were going to stay a single sport conference.
I thought maybe they were going to go in more
into one of the all sports conference, but that obviously
didn't happen. But it would have been interesting to sit
in on these meetings, you know, throughout the last year
and a half, just to see how they ultimately came to, uh,
this conclusion of of doing things the way they were
doing them.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Sam Herder here with us on the Brady March Hotline.
I want to talk a little bit about the portal
here in the spring. Sam, we've gotten to the cycle
of the portal where now the teams have you can
enter and the windows closed now teams are starting to
add here at the FCS level, and it seems like
every time I open up Twitter, there's some other tweet,
(09:17):
whether it's from you or Zach mckittle or whoever else
is covering FCS. So and so's going here, and it's
an FCS to FCS transfer that this is their production
and a lot of teams have been adding here. I
look at STSU, I look at USD. Montana has been
adding a lot through the portal. We know they've embraced that.
I think it's a little bit of a shit for
USD and SDSU to change their mentality because they have
(09:40):
no nooise right losing a lot. Yeah, UND as well.
A lot of these sax State players are floating around.
All that to say, when you take a look at
everything objectively, not just quantity of players added, but which
team do you think in this spring portal window has
been the biggest winner as far as getting guys that
(10:00):
fit needs that they have, that can come in and
produce right away and help them contend to get to
Nashville and the FCS a spring portal winner so far
in your eyes. As far as who they've added.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, thinks for the spring, Like, if you go back,
I think the biggest winner is UIW, but most of
their additions came during the winter. I mean they added
three former FCS All Americans, you know, a couple more
FCS All conference guys, and so I think the biggest
winner overall is UIW. You can probably put Sack State
there as well, just with the volume of transfers that
(10:36):
they have coming in. I think I saw fifty plus
transfers coming into Sacramento State, which is a while to
see how how well that will gel or not. But
as far as the spring portal window, I really like
what both South Dakota teams are doing. You look at
USD and you know, they added an all conference tight
end from I believe it was Lafayette. I want to
(10:57):
say they added an offensive lineman from Katanduga who started
in multiple games. And so USD. You know, I think
is has made some additions. Maybe some of it is
out of necessity because of you know the amount of
guys they lost during the spring portal window. I mean,
I also like what South Kota State is doing as well.
I think it's a it's a good mix with the
Jack Rabberts are doing because you know, they brought in,
(11:19):
you know, a couple of D two guys. I think
there was like a D two All Conference linebacker from
two Balls that came in. They're bringing in guys from
power forward programs that didn't get a whole lot of
playing time at their power force schools and so those
are always kind of unknown. But okay, they have a
wide receiver from Nebraska, they have some dbs from Iowa.
You know, they were at those schools for a reason,
(11:39):
but they also didn't play it, you know, potentially for
a reason. So how big of an impact are those
guys going to make That's a bit of an unknown.
But along with that, they're also bringing in a good
group of FCS transfers. You know, they brought in I
believe his name is Nate Adams, who was an All
a Conference offensive lineman from Stephen F. Austin. Most recently,
they brought in Julius low Rich from Fordham who is
(12:01):
a back to back first team All Conference selection, back
to back, you know, a thousand yard rusher. They brought
in a couple of Sacramento State guys who logged a
lot of snaps last year, and those are usually the
ones that for me personally moved the needle the most.
I mean you can. There are so many guys that
were four star recruits, were at some SEC school, they
(12:22):
come to the FCS, they make headlines because there were
this kind of you know, big high school recruits, and
they don't really pan out's in the FCS for whatever reason.
Those ones don't really move the needle for me. The
ones that I usually take notice of is when an
FCS team can land an FCS player who made an
impact on their previous teams, because you've seen that guy
(12:44):
have success at the FCS level. And so I think
South Dakota State has a pretty good mix of D
two guys, FCS guys that are proven commodity of these
and then bringing in FBS guys that have a high
level of talent but they just haven't logged a whole
lot of college snaps.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Makes a lot of sense. To Sam's point, you do
see a ton of guys at this time of ye
these last couple of weeks, it seems like every team's
adding two or three a week over these next couple
of weeks, and hey, NDSU's been adding a couple of
them as well. Last one for me, for you and
kind of back to this stuff at the Missouri Valley
Football Conference in the Summit League. I know we talked
before about, you know, whether it be the Utah conglomerate
(13:20):
to schools or the Texas conglomerate of schools that maybe
will join the league. Have any timeline for when you
think more news on that comes out of those teams
potentially looking to join one of the leagues, And is
there anyone that you think is kind of the favorite
right now?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, originally I thought maybe it was going to be
the Utah schools. I think maybe the more likely add
would be the Texas schools, which would be Tarleton State,
Applin Christian and then a non football team or a
non football school. I believe U te Arlington if I'm
not mistaken, I think they're maybe more favored to join
(13:57):
the Summer League last Missouri Valley Football Conference than the
Utah schools. At the same time, you know, there's a
chance that none of them joined. I think a lot
of it depends on what happens with the WHACK, what
happens with United Athletic Conference, if they could find stability,
I mean, if Tarlton State had a magic wand they
would go to the FBS as soon as possible, but
that invite has yet to come, and so it really
(14:18):
is hard to know the exact timeline. It seems like
sometimes in the summer is when domino start to fall,
just because when you join a conference, who typically joined
July first, and so you want to give your former
conference at least a year notice that you're leaving. And
so if any teams are going to join the summer
(14:39):
in the Missouri Valley Football Conference in twenty twenty six,
they typically would like to make that announcement before July first,
twenty twenty five, this upcoming summer. And so maybe in
the next couple of months we'll see some movement, but
it's hard to know for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Sam last one for me, how about cam Miller and
Time a Lot both on the Las Vegas Raiders. I
think souls are connected here as far as NDSU and
Montana's state, and you just can't write it two picks
or one pick apart. And now those two who have
battled in a couple of FCS title games are now
going to be teammates of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, it's it's it's cool just there to see how
their paths have crossed, you know, really ever since twenty
twenty one, and you know, not only to land up
the same team in the NFL, but you know they're
drafted two picks apart from each other. You know, I'm
I'm tweeting about Tommy Mallot and you know, right as
I'm firing off that tweet, and that's the you know,
Cam Miller, you know, get selected, they're trying to hurry
(15:39):
to get that tweet out as well. So I think
it's a great spot for both. I really do think
Kam Miller can carve himself out of a nice NFL career.
You know, might not be a starter, but hey, if
you're a if you're an East and Stick like backup,
you know, you're that's that's a that's a pretty good
career right there. And you know, I think Tommy Mallott
could carve himself out, carve himself out a nice role
as well. You know, he's not an NFL quarterback, but
(16:00):
he's definitely an NFL level athlete. And so how they
how they utilize him as a wide receiver, special teams
type guy, maybe some type of wildcat quarterback will be
really interesting. But I definitely think both those guys have
a really good chance to you know, make the roster
of the practice squad and you know, kind of have
a nice lenk.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
The NFL career backup quarterback have said it for a while,
probably one of the best jobs in America. Make all
the money, you don't get hit.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think that you just find sit on the sidelines there.
I know they're all competitors, they want to play, but yeah,
like you said, Easton Sticks made a lot of money
and just in a backup role gotten there in a
couple of games. You did mention sack State a little
while ago as a winner maybe in the portal. Do
we count them as fcs for this year? What are
we doing there with poles and everything.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
As of right now, yes, because they still haven't gotten
their waiver, still hasn't gotten approved yet to go FBS independence.
You know, the FBS Oversight Committee is meeting later this
month and we'll see if they'll vote on that or not,
and it goes to the D one Council, which that
next meetiing, I think would be in June. So we
(17:04):
still don't know if sax State is going to get
that waiver approved. If they hypothetically, let's say they do
get that waiver approved, they would join the FBS in
twenty twenty six. They would still be an FTS member
this year in twenty twenty five, but they would not
be eligible for the playoffs, which means, you know, as
far as the media poll, they went eligible to be
(17:25):
voted on in the media poll, And so I kind
of have the I have the expectations that sax State
will not be playoff eligible this year because I do
think they are going to get that waiver approved. But
as we as we sit right now, they're they're fully
FTS members, and they don't have that pathway to the
FBS approved just yet.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I've got Shaquille O'Neal as a general nager. They've got
Mike Bibbie on basketball. Yeah, they've got a little crazy.
It's been awesome though. Well, Sam, will let you enjoy
some time they're out on the lakes here over the
next couple of months, but appreciate the time today, and
I'm sure we'll catch up with you again here throughout
this summer.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
All right, it was great with me, and thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Thanks Sam, Sam Herder here with us on the inside
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