June 11, 2025 • 54 mins
In this follow-up to their exploration of Dr. Na’im Akbar’s Know Thyself, Pastor Gohlstin and DJ Black Unicorn continue the journey of rediscovery — digging deeper into what it means to truly know who you are. This episode explores the layers of identity that have been buried or distorted through colonization, slavery, and systemic erasure — and how relearning your spiritual, cultural, and personal self is a radical act of liberation.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is WOVU Studios Noon, everybody, This is Black Thought
the Spark.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Everything must change to inform, to inspire and to impact
on WOVU ninety five point nine FM. This is the
Rabbi along with the Black Ulicorn Unied. Did you have
a great weekend? I did? I did.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I was fed good, moved in to my new home.
Life's good. Life's good, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
And I have to you know, I had a conversation
with a close friend of mine recently and they were like,
make sure you don't just praise when things are good.
You gotta praise when you in the valley. You gotta
pay your praise when you're in the peace. And I'm
just grateful. I was praising when you know, I was
very uncertain, and I'm praising when I'm high.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But I had a great weekend. My daughter's used to pressures.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
She face tied me because every every Sunday she goes
to church with her grandparents.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And she was like happy mother Thursday, and I just
was like, did you call me yourself? She said, yes, baby,
You're growing up so fast, Like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
And they really, you know, you hear parents say how
fast children grow all the time, and you really don't
realize it until you have a little one in your own.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You're like, how did you get this big?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You're literally like just continuously growing in front of my eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We forget we were, Yeah, we forget, you know, from
whence we came.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, Yes, it's just such a beauty to watch. I
appreciate motherhood and everything that I have learned, everything that
she has taught me.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
And I just I'm just glad she chose me, you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Know, Yeah, I know he chose both of you. All right.
God takes and puts together the parents so that the
offspring can have the gene pools that's necessary to carry
out their divine assignment. Uh, well, I'm glad. Listen, you
got a new house. You said, when is the house warming?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So the housewarming is probably gonna be like next month,
if I even have one. Let me tell you a story,
all right, time, the last friends giving I had at
my home then I was renting the one of the
attendees were so drunk that they peeded in our kitchen
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on the floor next to all the foot bro I
literally have not had any one in my house since.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Don't have a don't have anything to drink.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm gonna it's gonna be a very.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Small set sprite seven up punks and all like that.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You know, I'm gonna have some fake jungle juice. I'mna
let them think it's act you want some mom and
be like, I mean you can go you.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Want get you or some do or something. But yeah,
we will be having a housewarming. I definitely will keep
you posted. I definitely want to hear all about your
retirement party.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
My sister.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Apologies for not being able to bake it.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I literally was moving that weekend and all weekend with
weird movers.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And all of those things.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
But I ended up finding a really great moving company
here in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
If you need one, please just let me know I
got you.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay. We had a wonderful time out of the Mediterranean Room.
The food was wonderful, the fellowship was wonderful. H class
we're not classmate, but with both of students from Bishop College.
Doctor Larry Howard was the MC. We had celebrities, well
elected officials, uh celebrities too. DARVYO was there. Jerry prim
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Uh came through. Aaron Phillips, doctor Reverend doctor Aaron Phillips
came through, our county executive Chris Ronine came through, our
congresswoman came through, Uh Chantelle Brown, uh Savon and Art
from the Hesitations was the entertainment, along with her cousin
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who was the DJ Thesic music. The abviance was. I mean,
it was just a great, a great, uh great evening.
We we started. We sat six o'clock and guess what
we started at six? We said dinner was at seven,
would be served at seven. Guess what dinner was served
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at seven?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Okay, I know it's always open the air with us,
depending on.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Y'all's circles.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like when I pull on y'all my older folks in
my circles, I know everything will be pristine, you know
time I like Clywart now, when I'm pulling up on
people in my age group, things might might be about
an hour later.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I don't know. In fact, I shared with doctor Howard.
I said, Doctor, I don't care who's not there. I said,
if I'm not there, we are going to start at
six o'clock. So we had a wonderful time. I appreciate
the people who came to celebrate with me, the kind
words that were shared. Some things Uh, I found out
(05:30):
about that people felt about me that I didn't know,
all right, and both both of most it was there
was there's only one person who cat and it was
really jest. It's a joke we have have between us.
She's an elected official, and she called I called her
(05:51):
the demon she calls me the demon child and uh
and you know I told her, you know, I gave
a couple of jokes. Uh. Doctor Howard roasted me, So
I roasted him, and she roasted me. So I roasted her.
Uh And uh, I said, I talked. I told her
I talked to her pastor and then he said, when
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he's baptized to the water is still boiling and they
can't get the stains out of the pool. You know, Well,
we had we had a wonderful time. The church was there,
My son was there. I mean we My daughter couldn't
get here from Florida. My other daughter was ill, she
was really bedridden. Uh, she couldn't come. But we had
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a wonderful time. We we really had a wonderful time.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Nehing gonna keep your daughter in my prayse Yes, how'd
you feel to to receive all that love and admiration
and dedication that you have portrayed throughout the year be recognized.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, you know, it's it's it's it's humbling. One. Okay,
it's humbling. And then two, I wasn't aware of some
of the uh, the opinions and the observations people had made.
You know, I didn't know people were watching that closely, Okay,
And I really didn't think I was doing that much,
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you know. Just but but we we we really appreciate it,
and we we thank everyone who participated, especially the committee
and my wife Elaine Goldston.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You better shot her out because you've given her a
little little heckling at first.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Shout out to you. You did it. You did that.
You aren't worried, but you you knocked it out the.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Part Pastor Steve Marcus and Pastor Derek Kendall. Okay, uh, Pat,
I mean Jackie Jackie and Creola uh and who who
worked at the war and then CREOLEA. Rice Man Listen.
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I was gonna bring a piece to day, but I
didn't want to share it. Uh. She she makes one
of the best sweet, oh light and fluffy and taste.
But I'll get her get one and bring it here
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for the station. I mean they are absolutely delicious. Then
we had a big cake and we uh oh had
oh man, uh angie soul food supplied peach cobbler, Oh god,
soul kitchen. Oh man, oh man. It was wonderful. Okay,
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well I just had some uhl t greens.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But I had Charterhouse this past weekend as well. House
Black owned restaurant. When I say chef kiss to literally
the entire experience, from the service, to the drinks, to
the food, the moment we walked into the moment we left.
It was such a pleasant experience. So if you are
out in euclid Not area, make sure you visit the Charterhouse.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes, it used to be the old charter House hotel.
Oh really yes, uh huh. And it was an upscale place.
We had two upscale places, one at Warrensville and Chagrine
called the Summerset In then the Charterhouse. Okay, yeah, and
it's it was it was high cotton, you know, fifty
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sixty years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It's still high cotton.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, okay, yeah cotton.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I said, Oh child, I'm glad I ain't paying.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
All right, listen, we we had gotten away from I
had been doing last month. I've been doing some examining
Know Thyself by Naim Knachbar. And by the way, he's
a contemporary of Paul hill here local locally, And two
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of those guys man are are are are gone, Asa
Hilliard and then Juwanza Jakufu just a week or so ago. Uh,
Naim is ill uh and uh we want to And
then I hear that Umar Johnson will be here on
the twelve next month, and man, I got to be
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in the front row here for that, okay. And so anyway,
we had gotten off into Naim's book The Know Thyself,
and you know very little do we know ourselves? In
the physiological sense? For instance, what are the five senses?
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Or how we made? How we may? We'll trichotomists in nature, body,
sould in spirit. And then each has five senses. And
the body has such tastes, smell, sight, hearing, and balance.
Then the soul has emotions, conscience, intellect, imagination and memory, okay.
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And then the spirit has hope, faith, reverence, prayer and
worship faith, hope, prayer, faith, hope, prayer, reverence, yes, and
worship okay. And so when we put those things together,
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they interact with one another, all right, And there have
those who have tried to interrupt that process.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
When you say try to interrupt that process, how so,
what do you mean Do you mean, like be the
test that the government was running on young children to
figure out how to make split personalities into people?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
What do you mean exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's that's part of the slave master's process. Okay, we
will have we have to go back to the slave
maker who have who forced us into horrendous situations uh
and denied us access to certain things so that they
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could force us into uh servitude for servitude. Okay. We
are one of the things that I need to get
our people in our listening audience, especially to understand that
we did not come to this country as slaves. We
were a people already here all right, No, not that,
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but we were a people who were made eat slaves. Mm.
We had we had a country, we had a land,
we had a language, we had a culture, we had spirituality,
we had wealth. Okay, we had education, we had an
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educational process, we have we had uh core values, morality
processes that we believed in all right and practiced all right.
I was we were out um what was it? Over
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the over the weekend we were at well, I think
it was Friday. We were at Thursday, Friday, Wednesday, Wednesday, Friday,
I can't remember. We were at Costcos dressed any kind,
you know. I had on slacks, shirt and the sports
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shirt and this jacket cap. Okay, and this white couple go, oh,
you guys are really dressed up. I'm not not no
why you guys said, you know, you guys are? I said, no,
It's a matter of pride. And we've always even Africa,
we dressed. Uh. We didn't walk around look like bums.
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All right, this stuff that we're doing now, okay, because
and and our African culture, we we had had dresses,
and we had feathers and animal skins that we had
uh uh were precious. We had precious stones and and gems, uh,
gold and whatnot. So we dressed up well. And these
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people come along. This country was settled, all right, taken
and settled by the lower class or a white trash
out of Europe, all right. And they came with their unwashed.
They didn't wash, they didn't bathe. You know, bathing took
place on average once a year among many of them. Okay, uh,
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and May was the month of bathing, all right. This
was what May First is all about the May first celebration.
That was the first day of the year that you
took a bath.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Can we pause to encourage our black folks to reinduct
that pride into their family structure and not allow the
bondess outside the house, not allow the the shower caps,
shower cabsmas pants. We got to cut out people. I
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get it, I get it. You don't care about what
people think of you. You don't care about judgments. I understand.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Could I feel a shame way.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
However, I do understand that how I present myself to
the world is how a lot has a lot to
do with how not only I am treated and perceived,
but how I feel about myself as well. My mood
is better when I look good, when I smell good,
when I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Like all those things, all those things.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yes, so people, please take care of yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay. You even act kind of differently when you you know,
and you're a little bit more careful about what you're saying,
what you do where you sit there right.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yes, running in with jogging pants and a bonny you're
moving fast, you're dropping stuff for getting stuff, trying to
hurry up.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So nobody running into you. Just just don't do.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That to yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Let's let's leave this in the past, please, and the
whole Oh well, that just comes from us being scared
to be judged. No, it's not about other people judging you.
It's not about that. It's about you having pride in
yourself to carry yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, So what we what we? What we? What we
talked about at first? Those fifteen senses are these, I
want to say, our cultural from the spiritual concept okay,
of who we are and understanding ourselves and how they interact.
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And then and it's that concept, okay, of those fifteen
senses are African in nature. Clarence Larkin lays this out
in his book Dispensational Truth and Class Larkiness of man
of African origin who I believe graduated from Princeton around
nineteen ten nineteen fourteen somewhere around there, couldn't as an engineer,
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could not get a job as an engineer, and God
called in her preach and this is some of his work,
Clarence Larking Dispensational Truth. Then you have the African concept itself,
all right, which is tribal okay, ancestral social, which is relational, personal,
which is mine, and then physical with this body which
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goes back and and incorporates part of what we were
talking about in terms of the fifteen senses. To start
this off, Elijah Mohammad once said, in the definition of self,
it is knowledge of self that the so called negro
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lacks which keeps them from enjoying freedom, justice and equality.
This belongs to them divinely as much as it does
either nations, to other nations, or of the earth. And
then we have to get away from legal law. All right,
I don't want to get into this rebi Hopefully maybe
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next law in the historical contexts okay, all right. The
major premise of effective education must be self knowledge. In
order to achieve the goals of identity and empowerment that
we have described above, the educational process must be one
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that induces the awareness of who we are. We got
to understand this, that we are. We're not nobody's doormats,
We're not three face human beings. We are the most
We are the descendants of the most advanced people on
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the face of the earth, all right. And that's what
we have in our d n a, that's what we
have in our genes and we must understand this, and
we need to stop looking at each other as enemies.
We we have and especially our young people. You know,
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we're not the enemies of one another. We have a
common enemy that it has their foot on our next
all right, yes, and we can't. We have to take
and come together to get that foot off of us.
We would come back to this after this message. We
we're gonna take a pall for a cause. Right now,
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you have been listening to Black Thought. Everything must change
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must change to inform, to inspire, and to impact on
w o v U ninety five point nine FM. You
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know I'm trying to get it across to us. Listen,
there have been killings and murders and violence every every
group of people, every society, every culture has had it.
But we, of all people cannot afford to continue it,
all right, and we we we have we're doing more
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harm in my lifetime. Of these years that I have lived,
I have seen more of us kill one another than
they have killed in four hundred and sixty years they're
doing everything. No, we're doing everything to ourselves that they
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have not been able to do and all the time
that they've had us here, if I'm making sense, right,
and so we need to stop it and understand we
are not one another's enemies, right, and that we must
take and come together and get us a piece of
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the land if we want to stay here. If not,
let's get a piece of the land somewhere else. Right,
I for one, don't want to necessarily leave here, but
I will. I have a passport, I can, Okay, But
you know, and as you know, I have the strategic plan,
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and we have a place that we want to develop
for us, okay, And all we ask is that we
be left alone. So okay. It is not accidental that
world history centers on the European participation in the world.
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It is not accidental that the study of world religions
looks at the world's religion from the perspective of the
Judo Christian Judeo Christian religions as the norm. It would
be no surprise that the history of the American America
begins with the entrance of the European and concept of
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knowledge and civilization has its dawning with the rise of
the European scholarship, but it didn't come from them. Okay.
The European scholars admit that human activity predates the European
entrants on the stage of human civilization by tens of
thousands of years. This only receives limited mention in the
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European educational system, as do all other scientific, artistic, and
philosophical discoveries that precede the European participation. They listen, at
the best we can give them all, right, at the
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best we can give them five thousand years. That's the
best we can do, and that's being generous. We go
back again. You know I shared with you found the
factory in January of twenty three. We found a factory
in Ethiopia that's one point two years old, million years old. Okay,
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So that predates anything that they can can come up with.
The exclusive focus on themselves is not due to ignorance,
because there is certainly no failure to acknowledge that, for example,
the Nile Valley so called Egyptian civilization was already old
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when Europeans showed up.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Okay, already ancient.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yes, the you go have to go back. I mean,
we can go back to the Ming dynasty during the
Rain of Kufu and Kufar. All Right. The University of
wad Letter at ten buck two was so large, all right,
it had fourteen hundred professors. I mean, this is this
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is where they studied. Okay, Okay, the certainly the certainty,
they certainly certainly acknowledged that China civilalization was already ancient
when the Europeans find their way there, and certainly America
was fully occupied when the Europeans explored explorers stumbled on
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the American continent. And again they call themselves pioneers, but
they were explorers, correct. Pioneers mean that you're you're exploring
uninhabited How can you be a pioneer when you had
indigenous Blacks and Native Americans here? All right, you can't, Okay,
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but that's the great they call it. What do they
call it now? Alternative alternatives of truth for false true? False? Yeah, false,
nar yes, a misinformation. Right. They lied, They lied, just
telling lies. They lie and the truth ain't in them, Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They try to hide the truth. They have taken our truths.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And hit it or claim it as theirs.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Or claimed it is theirs, and here we are getting
back to it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
There is apparently another motive behind this exclusion of significance
of other people's contribution to world civilization. Though we are
not very familiar with the Chinese, Persian, Nubian or traditional
Euroba systems of education, they would no doubt focus on
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their presence on the world stage as the emphasis for
their educational system as well. To give the European American
the benefit of the doubt, we can understand that bias
and their educational system as being directed towards enhancement of
their self knowledge and not necessarily directed towards the deprivation
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of non Europeans from attaining knowledge of themselves. For the
sake of argument we are developing here, it would even
seem that their educational system is very respectful of the
fundamental criteria for providing a good education for oneself, and
that is it should be directed towards the objective obtaining
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obtaining obtaining self knowledge. When we discuss developing the educational
system for African Americans that will not result in miseducation.
We should set our criteria the process of self knowledge.
And I want to shift here just a moment to
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the civilization of barbarism by Yop and Yap is talking
to us. Let's see if I can find it here.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Okay, if y'all ever is looking like looking for a gift,
a good gift for Rabbi him bookmarks, all.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Kind of bookmarks.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
All right, yeah, yeah, that's that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I've been trying to sit here for the longest, like
this whole time, trying to figure out what I was
going to get you for retirement.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Now I know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
We we have to understand that that that they have borrowed,
if not borrowed.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Stolen about saying borrow have stolen Okay, oh.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Not just artifacts, not just knowledge, but.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Almost everything literally, Okay, that that that we we we
have the phases of the moon, the calendar, the um um,
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the orientation of of of of monuments, the decans, okay,
et cetera. When you go back and you look at
how when the Romans conquered uh Africa through Egypt in
forty seven d c. Uh and Caesar altered the Egyptian
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calendar by introducing uh the readjustment every four years leap year,
and that was the origin of the present day calendar
has been said the Egyptians were ignorant of the notion
of an era, that the calendar year was a fluctuating one.
You have, you have uh, all these kinds of adjustments
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that or or remaking. Renaming China I think we've talked
about this on the show before. Was not named China, Okay.
It was Ylu named after the Yalu, after the Yalu
River and Yalu and Chinese is yellow, all right. And
when they got there they found them had some tableware
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that was made out of what we now call porcelain,
all right, and it was called China. And so they
ended up calling you you see you see you see
orange man trying to do it with the Gulf of Mexico.
All right, yes, and so we we we have to
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take in understand and and and uh uh and and
look at how they have fully orchestrated thing things. Um.
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You you have Negroid, which is about one hundred and
fifty thousand years ago when you begin to take in
and really kind of began to deal with ethnicities, if
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you will, all right, you have uh the European uh,
Grimaldi's the Grimaldi's Negroid European, which is only thirty three
thousand years ago. Then you have the chromagnum which is
twenty thousand years ago. And so this is this is
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how recent and I was, you know, how recent we
can we could deal with their existence. I wish, I
wish I could call on doctor Barisia day again, she's
back in Nigeria now and talk about how how after
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the ourls Ice Age that things got developed after the
Ice Age and how Africa had civilized civilized Europe if
you will. Okay, after the Ice Age, they kind of
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turned their backs on the at civilization and went into
what was called the Dark Age, and from there then
they went into the re emergence of the Moors, coming
back into Europe around seven hundred seven seven and fourteen
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early seven hundreds and began to uh, to recivilize Europe.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Before you move forward, can we give a little background
on the Moors and where they originated from things of
that nature, because some people just you know, we have.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, well this when we talk about we as you know,
I said, noticed, I said, Africans. Okay, we have not
divided and necessarily into religions after the Ice Age. Okay,
now we have divisions now, okay, Uh, it's it's the
Romans have conquered UH, Africa and forty seven BC. UH,
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and they're they're running Europe and and and what is
what we call the known world. Then and uh, you
have the establishment of what what we call I don't like, uh, Semitism, Semitics,
I'd rather say Semitics and the Hebrews and their religious concept, okay,
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out of that, and then grows Christianity all right, out
of the Semitic movement or way of life. And then
that's that's around. That's around. Yoshua the Messiah is born
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around six a d AD does not mean after death, okay,
but he's born about six a d in the year
of our Lord, Okay. And then you so then then
at about thirty nine thirty forty a d he comes begins,
his ministry is crucified after about after three and a
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half years, and Christianity now formulated through Africa, because Egypt, Jordan,
all those countries were all African countries. He after his
death bury on the resurrection. Uh. Christianity becomes the way
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it's called. It was called the way it wasn't called Christianity,
it was called the way it is pervasive. It was
called the way it became Christianity. It was a joke okay, Europeans,
Oh that goes one of them Christians, ha ha. Okay.
And we even turned it, it turned it into something positive, okay.
But it was originally the way, and its symbol was
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a fish. Anyhow, three hundred years later, okay, you have Constantine,
who is now the Roman Emperor. Okay, and he embraces Christianity,
not for the sake of Christianity, but for control of
the masses, all right. He calls the Council of Nicia
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together a sweet three twenty three, three twenty five. The
Council of Nicea canaonizes eighty eight books of the the
Ethiopian Bible. Okay, this is not this is just a narrative.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Only the original Ethiopian Bibles. How many books?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Eighty eight eighty eight? Okay? Uh? And I I have
it in my car okay, Okay, I was thinking ninety
for sorry, I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
About the two other main books missing from the kJ V.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well, there's more than King James.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, it's more. Think about the two main one that
people always speak on.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Ok go ahead, yeah, okay, okay. A Book of Maccabees
of Enoch and some others believe how and so then
you have about three hundred years after the the Uh
the establishment. So what what what would Constantine establishes is
(37:01):
the Catholic Church is already existing, all right, from Christ
to or from or from the day of Pentecost, all
right to Constantine, you have the Catholic Church. Catholic means
(37:23):
no more than the Universal Church, all right. Now with
Constantine you have the establishment of the denomination the Roman Catholics,
all right, okay, and that's three twenty three, okay, three
twenty five. They come up with the sixty to eighty
(37:46):
eight Books of the Church, the Roman Catholic Church. Then
under Jerome, under the urging of Jerome's wife, the Infra,
Jerome takes and takes out seven books. They and developed
the Latin Vulgate, all right, and later they translated into English.
(38:07):
So three hundred years after Constantine, you have the Advent
of Islam in six twenty three AD. Right now, that's
that's part of your seventh century movement. And now they're
moving northward central Africa for the most part, moving north
(38:31):
northwards central and eastern Africa, moving northward into southern Europe.
You have Christianity. Paul has already evangelized Southern Europe. Okay,
and the Christian or the way of the Christian churches
we know it now is established. And now there's their strife.
(38:53):
There's a struggle between Islam and Christianity over Southern Europe.
So Europeans don't know what to do, so they decide
to become Semitics or jew what we now call Jewish. Okay,
there's no such word as Jew back then. All right,
I don't see how they could have on the cross
(39:16):
king of the Jews because there's no letter J in
the English language until fifteen forty eight. Yes, okay, So anyhow,
so now that's so what you now have the converts
in Southern Europe. Baron Williams, doctor Farron Williams out of Indianapolis,
(39:37):
in his book The Bible Is Black History and Beyond
caused them a euro Jew okay, doctor Barishia day and
even some people that I know who are okay call
it Askonazi. Okay. Then you have the Separdine okay, which
I believe Jesus was okay. And you have Philasha, which
(40:01):
is uh. You you have that's the group in in
Uh Ethiopia, and I believe that's where the ark of
the Covenant is with them, okay. And then you have
the Haplo group h A p l O, the Haplo group,
all Semitics except as Konazi. All these groups that I've
called other than as Konazis have Abrahamic DNA and our
(40:26):
Semitic okay. So I can't be anti Semitic because I
am a Semitic. I am Semitism myself, okay. And so
we are the chosen people, all right, and we have
been tricked into believing that we are not. I hope
I make you sense here.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
What's the best way to trick a nation of people
out of their own culture.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
To take control of it, right, and then teach them
what you want them to know.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
And now we are in a space where we not
only know what it is that they thought that they
wanted to introduce us to, we are in an age
where we are able to reconnect on our own.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
So they want to kill knowledge, right. So they want
to kill the educational system so that we won't read
and write, so we can't read the history. But they
made a mistake. We have audio.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Books that and I don't think they realized how many
young people are willing to pour into our own villages.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Because we are.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, I'm hoping I can meet some of them, because
for the most part, the ones I run into don't
want to hear it. That's all ancient stuff, and we
ain't about that, and they don't understand that we are
some anointed people. But anointing its contly, yes, that we
have paid a price for them to be where they are. Somebody,
(41:59):
you know, my great grandparents are my grandparents, even my parents,
all right, The caught were born during the Jim Crow
Black Codes era, all right, and so they came up
in some stuff. Right Now, I didn't come up in
(42:20):
what my grandparents or great grandparents, but I came up
in some stuff that was much worse than what's going
on today that they're trying to What they don't understand,
the young people don't understand now, is they're trying to
go back one hundred years to the nineteen twenties or
even the eighteen twenties with us and put us in
(42:42):
quote our place, all right, And for the most part,
the more you fight me, or we fight one another,
the more we help them accomplish that goal.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
And that's why it's important.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Like you highlighted at the beginning of the show, we
are not each other enemies.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Right, We're not all right.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
But we have been tricked into believing that we are.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Now. We're not always gonna get along, We're not always
in this is not this is not black utopia. We
can take and put our differences aside so that we
can take and unify, all right, and and and and
(43:25):
cooperate with one another. All right. I don't like everybody
I meet, all right, but if they look like me,
you don't get the benefit of the doubt for us
to work together and do some things, all right, to
make sure that our community is taking care of I
hope I'm making sense for too, okay, all right? And
(43:45):
so when we know ourselves all right, uh, and we
have a good idea of who we are and what
we can accomplish together.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
A right, give the book one more time.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
All right, know thyself by naim akbar. That's in a apostrophe.
I am ak b a r. And we must understand people.
Oh listen, I want to go here. The most powerful
weapon we can begin to develop, other than unification, is
(44:23):
to educate ourselves. Power is the ability to influence the
environment consistent with one's self interests. Let me say that again.
Listen to me. Education as power. Power is the ability
(44:48):
to influence the environment consistent with one's self interests. Not
only do I have power to influence you as a person,
but I can. I'm looking at but I think they
fixed their half something. I heard the lady talk about
Cleveland Foundation. They're downtown on what eleventh? Eleventh and Euclid?
(45:17):
Who else where? They are now sixty sixth in Euclid,
in the heart of the black community. Why why they
have the money? Okay they're talking about you talked about
how they're trying to take the late property. Okay, why
they want it? They have the money, all right, So
(45:39):
they have the power and the education they know how
to use Okay, the education, all right, and money to
take control of what. And we all we can do
is sit by and watch because we can't come to
We can't come together and put five dollars together for
our arguing.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Over it to red sense from one pack to the next.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
We we can't. We we won't to know if I
get if if we had five dollars. We want to
know who's gonna be in charge and who's gonna have
the final say or who's gonna spend the money? All right,
so they come together and decide that before they go
to public. This is what we're gonna do. You need,
(46:28):
this is you, This is what you have over here
being This is what you have over here, darvo, this
is what you have over here? All right.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I noticed a trend in our community that it wants
a lot of people want to be cheese.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Everybody wants to be cheafd Nobody wants to be Indian.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
But every Indian has its place and it's part to
play pray. You can't always be in charge, honestly.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
But see we have been tricked at. You're nobody unless
you're in the office with the white or appear to
be in charge.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Okay, that's okay, and so and I hear we have
so many black black counselors now, all right. Our agencies
are hurting because we have I know of I know
of one hundred black women who are counselors who have
their private practice. I mean, I know some black dudes too. Okay,
(47:31):
all right, who's coming one? I don't know how I'm
gonna handle it. He's in on the West coast. Now
he should have graduated. I think this weekend of this
coming weekend with his second masters, he's coming to town
to duplicate a program by the same name that one's
(47:53):
already here doing the same thing. Yes, uh uh huh, Yes,
that's what we need. Yeah, both of them look like me. Okay,
all right, and it's that kind of stuff. Okay. Now
he didn't know it. Okay, and I could understand that
(48:15):
he didn't know it. But then again, now that you
know it, why can't we make an adjustment or why
can't the two of you come together, partner?
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yes, work together.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
We have to get back to our village ways of life,
ways of living, working together.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
You think every back in the day, you think everybody
in the village like each other. No, no, I understood
that they need each other.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
You like catfish, I like children's You know, I use
that to death. But you know you eat your catfish
and eat my children. But when it comes time, we
leave our personal preferences and.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
We go get it SILD together.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Real quick, right, my only way out. I definitely want
to hear what advice you have for people who not
only want to get involved and continue to educate themselves.
But the people that want to further get to know themselves,
because how can we help our village if we don't
(49:20):
know ourselves, If we don't know what ourselves and our
own family needs, what are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
The first thing I would say that work for me
was my involvement with the Black Church. Okay. In that process, okay,
I was constantly looking for I think I shared this
with you guys last week. I was walking through the
(49:50):
house always looking for I went every week, every chance
I got a chance, I went through all the drawers, said,
I mean in every dresser. We had one, two, three,
four dressers in the house. We had a buffet, we
had a pantry, We had an attic with trunks in it,
We had uh and I would go through looking for stuff,
(50:10):
looking for stuff. Looking I knew what was in it,
but I was going through those drawers and trunks, suitcase
looking for something. And finally, in my conversion into real
conversion into Christianity, I found I was looking for myself.
Mm okay, and I did not like me.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
And that's why people numb themselves, not only because of
their past traumas, but because they don't like what they
see when they look in the mir the mirror.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I did not like me, and I had to learn
to like me, all right, and to be alone with
me a lot of times. This is why people always
got music or gotta always have be in conversation, always
gotta have people around them, because they could not stand
to be alone themselves. And so, uh, they kept active,
(51:04):
kept busy, all right. But when you get along with yourself,
you have to look at yourself. But then when you
look at yourself, be kind to yourself. Okay, all right,
uh and uh, and don't beat yourself totally up, but
know that you need to make some adjustments, okay, in
your life. That's that's one thing. The other thing is
(51:29):
that you are get bombarded with information that you need
to take and write down. You you gave me something,
and you know he gave me something in there. Uh,
the next of the young man in the next room,
in the next studio with somebody, the next time fire
by Jeans Balwin. When guess what I've already ordered it. Okay,
(51:52):
it should be here tomorrow. Okay, Okay, there's some I
was listening to something on Facebook. I was listening to
some thing on TikTok. I was looking listening to something
on the thread. There was some terms I didn't know.
I wrote them down. Okay, I'm going to go and
research them. Okay. And the dictionary are okay, and and
(52:14):
the background material and even if it even if it's here,
I'm going to research it. Okay. This is your new
new encyclopedia. It's listen. It's not thorough. Okay, it's not thorough,
but it's it's it's at least it's a start.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Okay for the listeners.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Phone my search engine on my phone. Okay, Chat Chat,
box chat, you know AI? All right, Google? All right.
Me and my friend UH in Dominican Republic, we were
in the process of developing our own AI system. You
know that will be more powerful than anything they have now. Okay,
(52:56):
and so research read all right. This is one thing
they do not want you to do. Okay. I heard
the I was listening to TC and E Money on
a show earlier, and they were talking about movies. I
don't put much truck in movies, but movies do sometimes
(53:20):
tell us what's coming.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I saw a thread about vampire movies and how they're
associated with every time like a big blockbuster hit about
vampires come out, some type of tragedy happens. It's followed
by some type of tragedy, like when Twilight hit something.
I forgot what it was, but something happened. So it's
(53:47):
interesting to hear you say that again.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
But I saw some movies I remember as a kid,
Captain Video all right, I'm at the Hall North Show
up on fitty fifth Street watching the Cereal on Captain video,
Buck Rogers, all right, which was space. Well, they had
people walking on the moon back then. That was but
(54:09):
and now we've had what we've had people walking on
the moon. We have okay, we have satellites. I remember
reading Popular Mechanics when I was a kid, ten eleven,
twelve years old. They talked about there would be a
stove that you would be able to cook dinner in
twenty seconds, twenty minutes all right, and the microwave. All right, well,
(54:30):
people listen, we do we Oh man, it's uh one
fifty nine. It is time to get out of here.
People listen. I will drink from my part of the river,
and no one shall keep me from it. This is
the Rabbi along with the unicorn, saying shalom. Harbor, See
you next time.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
This is WOVU Studios
This is WOVU Studios Noon, everybody, This is Black Thought
the Spark.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Everything must change to inform, to inspire and to impact
on WOVU ninety five point nine FM. This is the
Rabbi along with the Black Ulicorn Unied. Did you have
a great weekend? I did? I did.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I was fed good, moved in to my new home.
Life's good. Life's good, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
And I have to you know, I had a conversation
with a close friend of mine recently and they were like,
make sure you don't just praise when things are good.
You gotta praise when you in the valley. You gotta
pay your praise when you're in the peace. And I'm
just grateful. I was praising when you know, I was
very uncertain, and I'm praising when I'm high.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But I had a great weekend. My daughter's used to pressures.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
She face tied me because every every Sunday she goes
to church with her grandparents.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And she was like happy mother Thursday, and I just
was like, did you call me yourself? She said, yes, baby,
You're growing up so fast, Like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
And they really, you know, you hear parents say how
fast children grow all the time, and you really don't
realize it until you have a little one in your own.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You're like, how did you get this big?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You're literally like just continuously growing in front of my eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We forget we were, Yeah, we forget, you know, from
whence we came.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes, Yes, it's just such a beauty to watch. I
appreciate motherhood and everything that I have learned, everything that
she has taught me.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
And I just I'm just glad she chose me, you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Know, Yeah, I know he chose both of you. All right.
God takes and puts together the parents so that the
offspring can have the gene pools that's necessary to carry
out their divine assignment. Uh, well, I'm glad. Listen, you
got a new house. You said, when is the house warming?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So the housewarming is probably gonna be like next month,
if I even have one. Let me tell you a story,
all right, time, the last friends giving I had at
my home then I was renting the one of the
attendees were so drunk that they peeded in our kitchen
(02:38):
on the floor next to all the foot bro I
literally have not had any one in my house since.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Don't have a don't have anything to drink.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm gonna it's gonna be a very.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Small set sprite seven up punks and all like that.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You know, I'm gonna have some fake jungle juice. I'mna
let them think it's act you want some mom and
be like, I mean you can go you.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Want get you or some do or something. But yeah,
we will be having a housewarming. I definitely will keep
you posted. I definitely want to hear all about your
retirement party.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
My sister.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Apologies for not being able to bake it.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I literally was moving that weekend and all weekend with
weird movers.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And all of those things.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
But I ended up finding a really great moving company
here in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
If you need one, please just let me know I
got you.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay. We had a wonderful time out of the Mediterranean Room.
The food was wonderful, the fellowship was wonderful. H class
we're not classmate, but with both of students from Bishop College.
Doctor Larry Howard was the MC. We had celebrities, well
elected officials, uh celebrities too. DARVYO was there. Jerry prim
(03:58):
Uh came through. Aaron Phillips, doctor Reverend doctor Aaron Phillips
came through, our county executive Chris Ronine came through, our
congresswoman came through, Uh Chantelle Brown, uh Savon and Art
from the Hesitations was the entertainment, along with her cousin
(04:22):
who was the DJ Thesic music. The abviance was. I mean,
it was just a great, a great, uh great evening.
We we started. We sat six o'clock and guess what
we started at six? We said dinner was at seven,
would be served at seven. Guess what dinner was served
(04:45):
at seven?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Okay, I know it's always open the air with us,
depending on.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Y'all's circles.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like when I pull on y'all my older folks in
my circles, I know everything will be pristine, you know
time I like Clywart now, when I'm pulling up on
people in my age group, things might might be about
an hour later.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I don't know. In fact, I shared with doctor Howard.
I said, Doctor, I don't care who's not there. I said,
if I'm not there, we are going to start at
six o'clock. So we had a wonderful time. I appreciate
the people who came to celebrate with me, the kind
words that were shared. Some things Uh, I found out
(05:30):
about that people felt about me that I didn't know,
all right, and both both of most it was there
was there's only one person who cat and it was
really jest. It's a joke we have have between us.
She's an elected official, and she called I called her
(05:51):
the demon she calls me the demon child and uh
and you know I told her, you know, I gave
a couple of jokes. Uh. Doctor Howard roasted me, So
I roasted him, and she roasted me. So I roasted her.
Uh And uh, I said, I talked. I told her
I talked to her pastor and then he said, when
(06:13):
he's baptized to the water is still boiling and they
can't get the stains out of the pool. You know, Well,
we had we had a wonderful time. The church was there,
My son was there. I mean we My daughter couldn't
get here from Florida. My other daughter was ill, she
was really bedridden. Uh, she couldn't come. But we had
(06:36):
a wonderful time. We we really had a wonderful time.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Nehing gonna keep your daughter in my prayse Yes, how'd
you feel to to receive all that love and admiration
and dedication that you have portrayed throughout the year be recognized.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Well, you know, it's it's it's it's humbling. One. Okay,
it's humbling. And then two, I wasn't aware of some
of the uh, the opinions and the observations people had made.
You know, I didn't know people were watching that closely, Okay,
And I really didn't think I was doing that much,
(07:17):
you know. Just but but we we we really appreciate it,
and we we thank everyone who participated, especially the committee
and my wife Elaine Goldston.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You better shot her out because you've given her a
little little heckling at first.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Shout out to you. You did it. You did that.
You aren't worried, but you you knocked it out the.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Part Pastor Steve Marcus and Pastor Derek Kendall. Okay, uh, Pat,
I mean Jackie Jackie and Creola uh and who who
worked at the war and then CREOLEA. Rice Man Listen.
(08:03):
I was gonna bring a piece to day, but I
didn't want to share it. Uh. She she makes one
of the best sweet, oh light and fluffy and taste.
But I'll get her get one and bring it here
(08:24):
for the station. I mean they are absolutely delicious. Then
we had a big cake and we uh oh had
oh man, uh angie soul food supplied peach cobbler, Oh god,
soul kitchen. Oh man, oh man. It was wonderful. Okay,
(08:49):
well I just had some uhl t greens.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But I had Charterhouse this past weekend as well. House
Black owned restaurant. When I say chef kiss to literally
the entire experience, from the service, to the drinks, to
the food, the moment we walked into the moment we left.
It was such a pleasant experience. So if you are
out in euclid Not area, make sure you visit the Charterhouse.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes, it used to be the old charter House hotel.
Oh really yes, uh huh. And it was an upscale place.
We had two upscale places, one at Warrensville and Chagrine
called the Summerset In then the Charterhouse. Okay, yeah, and
it's it was it was high cotton, you know, fifty
(09:39):
sixty years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It's still high cotton.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, okay, yeah cotton.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I said, Oh child, I'm glad I ain't paying.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
All right, listen, we we had gotten away from I
had been doing last month. I've been doing some examining
Know Thyself by Naim Knachbar. And by the way, he's
a contemporary of Paul hill here local locally, And two
(10:08):
of those guys man are are are are gone, Asa
Hilliard and then Juwanza Jakufu just a week or so ago. Uh,
Naim is ill uh and uh we want to And
then I hear that Umar Johnson will be here on
the twelve next month, and man, I got to be
(10:31):
in the front row here for that, okay. And so anyway,
we had gotten off into Naim's book The Know Thyself,
and you know very little do we know ourselves? In
the physiological sense? For instance, what are the five senses?
(10:58):
Or how we made? How we may? We'll trichotomists in nature, body,
sould in spirit. And then each has five senses. And
the body has such tastes, smell, sight, hearing, and balance.
Then the soul has emotions, conscience, intellect, imagination and memory, okay.
(11:22):
And then the spirit has hope, faith, reverence, prayer and
worship faith, hope, prayer, faith, hope, prayer, reverence, yes, and
worship okay. And so when we put those things together,
(11:45):
they interact with one another, all right, And there have
those who have tried to interrupt that process.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
When you say try to interrupt that process, how so,
what do you mean Do you mean, like be the
test that the government was running on young children to
figure out how to make split personalities into people?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
What do you mean exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's that's part of the slave master's process. Okay, we
will have we have to go back to the slave
maker who have who forced us into horrendous situations uh
and denied us access to certain things so that they
(12:34):
could force us into uh servitude for servitude. Okay. We
are one of the things that I need to get
our people in our listening audience, especially to understand that
we did not come to this country as slaves. We
were a people already here all right, No, not that,
(12:57):
but we were a people who were made eat slaves. Mm.
We had we had a country, we had a land,
we had a language, we had a culture, we had spirituality,
we had wealth. Okay, we had education, we had an
(13:17):
educational process, we have we had uh core values, morality
processes that we believed in all right and practiced all right.
I was we were out um what was it? Over
(13:40):
the over the weekend we were at well, I think
it was Friday. We were at Thursday, Friday, Wednesday, Wednesday, Friday,
I can't remember. We were at Costcos dressed any kind,
you know. I had on slacks, shirt and the sports
(14:03):
shirt and this jacket cap. Okay, and this white couple go, oh,
you guys are really dressed up. I'm not not no
why you guys said, you know, you guys are? I said, no,
It's a matter of pride. And we've always even Africa,
we dressed. Uh. We didn't walk around look like bums.
(14:27):
All right, this stuff that we're doing now, okay, because
and and our African culture, we we had had dresses,
and we had feathers and animal skins that we had
uh uh were precious. We had precious stones and and gems, uh,
gold and whatnot. So we dressed up well. And these
(14:51):
people come along. This country was settled, all right, taken
and settled by the lower class or a white trash
out of Europe, all right. And they came with their unwashed.
They didn't wash, they didn't bathe. You know, bathing took
place on average once a year among many of them. Okay, uh,
(15:17):
and May was the month of bathing, all right. This
was what May First is all about the May first celebration.
That was the first day of the year that you
took a bath.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Can we pause to encourage our black folks to reinduct
that pride into their family structure and not allow the
bondess outside the house, not allow the the shower caps,
shower cabsmas pants. We got to cut out people. I
(15:48):
get it, I get it. You don't care about what
people think of you. You don't care about judgments. I understand.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Could I feel a shame way.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
However, I do understand that how I present myself to
the world is how a lot has a lot to
do with how not only I am treated and perceived,
but how I feel about myself as well. My mood
is better when I look good, when I smell good,
when I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Like all those things, all those things.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yes, so people, please take care of yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay. You even act kind of differently when you you know,
and you're a little bit more careful about what you're saying,
what you do where you sit there right.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yes, running in with jogging pants and a bonny you're
moving fast, you're dropping stuff for getting stuff, trying to
hurry up.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
So nobody running into you. Just just don't do.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That to yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Let's let's leave this in the past, please, and the
whole Oh well, that just comes from us being scared
to be judged. No, it's not about other people judging you.
It's not about that. It's about you having pride in
yourself to carry yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, So what we what we? What we? What we
talked about at first? Those fifteen senses are these, I
want to say, our cultural from the spiritual concept okay,
of who we are and understanding ourselves and how they interact.
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And then and it's that concept, okay, of those fifteen
senses are African in nature. Clarence Larkin lays this out
in his book Dispensational Truth and Class Larkiness of man
of African origin who I believe graduated from Princeton around
nineteen ten nineteen fourteen somewhere around there, couldn't as an engineer,
(17:38):
could not get a job as an engineer, and God
called in her preach and this is some of his work,
Clarence Larking Dispensational Truth. Then you have the African concept itself,
all right, which is tribal okay, ancestral social, which is relational, personal,
which is mine, and then physical with this body which
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goes back and and incorporates part of what we were
talking about in terms of the fifteen senses. To start
this off, Elijah Mohammad once said, in the definition of self,
it is knowledge of self that the so called negro
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lacks which keeps them from enjoying freedom, justice and equality.
This belongs to them divinely as much as it does
either nations, to other nations, or of the earth. And
then we have to get away from legal law. All right,
I don't want to get into this rebi Hopefully maybe
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next law in the historical contexts okay, all right. The
major premise of effective education must be self knowledge. In
order to achieve the goals of identity and empowerment that
we have described above, the educational process must be one
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that induces the awareness of who we are. We got
to understand this, that we are. We're not nobody's doormats,
We're not three face human beings. We are the most
We are the descendants of the most advanced people on
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the face of the earth, all right. And that's what
we have in our d n a, that's what we
have in our genes and we must understand this, and
we need to stop looking at each other as enemies.
We we have and especially our young people. You know,
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we're not the enemies of one another. We have a
common enemy that it has their foot on our next
all right, yes, and we can't. We have to take
and come together to get that foot off of us.
We would come back to this after this message. We
we're gonna take a pall for a cause. Right now,
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you have been listening to Black Thought. Everything must change
to inform, to inspire and to impact on w o
v U ninety five point nine FM. We'll be right back,
all right, people, you're back here with Black Thought. Everything
must change to inform, to inspire, and to impact on
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know I'm trying to get it across to us. Listen,
there have been killings and murders and violence every every
group of people, every society, every culture has had it.
But we, of all people cannot afford to continue it,
all right, and we we we have we're doing more
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harm in my lifetime. Of these years that I have lived,
I have seen more of us kill one another than
they have killed in four hundred and sixty years they're
doing everything. No, we're doing everything to ourselves that they
(21:24):
have not been able to do and all the time
that they've had us here, if I'm making sense, right,
and so we need to stop it and understand we
are not one another's enemies, right, and that we must
take and come together and get us a piece of
(21:44):
the land if we want to stay here. If not,
let's get a piece of the land somewhere else. Right,
I for one, don't want to necessarily leave here, but
I will. I have a passport, I can, Okay, But
you know, and as you know, I have the strategic plan,
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and we have a place that we want to develop
for us, okay, And all we ask is that we
be left alone. So okay. It is not accidental that
world history centers on the European participation in the world.
(22:31):
It is not accidental that the study of world religions
looks at the world's religion from the perspective of the
Judo Christian Judeo Christian religions as the norm. It would
be no surprise that the history of the American America
begins with the entrance of the European and concept of
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knowledge and civilization has its dawning with the rise of
the European scholarship, but it didn't come from them. Okay.
The European scholars admit that human activity predates the European
entrants on the stage of human civilization by tens of
thousands of years. This only receives limited mention in the
(23:16):
European educational system, as do all other scientific, artistic, and
philosophical discoveries that precede the European participation. They listen, at
the best we can give them all, right, at the
(23:37):
best we can give them five thousand years. That's the
best we can do, and that's being generous. We go
back again. You know I shared with you found the
factory in January of twenty three. We found a factory
in Ethiopia that's one point two years old, million years old. Okay,
(24:02):
So that predates anything that they can can come up with.
The exclusive focus on themselves is not due to ignorance,
because there is certainly no failure to acknowledge that, for example,
the Nile Valley so called Egyptian civilization was already old
(24:22):
when Europeans showed up.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Okay, already ancient.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yes, the you go have to go back. I mean,
we can go back to the Ming dynasty during the
Rain of Kufu and Kufar. All Right. The University of
wad Letter at ten buck two was so large, all right,
it had fourteen hundred professors. I mean, this is this
(24:49):
is where they studied. Okay, Okay, the certainly the certainty,
they certainly certainly acknowledged that China civilalization was already ancient
when the Europeans find their way there, and certainly America
was fully occupied when the Europeans explored explorers stumbled on
(25:12):
the American continent. And again they call themselves pioneers, but
they were explorers, correct. Pioneers mean that you're you're exploring
uninhabited How can you be a pioneer when you had
indigenous Blacks and Native Americans here? All right, you can't, Okay,
(25:35):
but that's the great they call it. What do they
call it now? Alternative alternatives of truth for false true? False? Yeah, false,
nar yes, a misinformation. Right. They lied, They lied, just
telling lies. They lie and the truth ain't in them, Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They try to hide the truth. They have taken our truths.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And hit it or claim it as theirs.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Or claimed it is theirs, and here we are getting
back to it.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
There is apparently another motive behind this exclusion of significance
of other people's contribution to world civilization. Though we are
not very familiar with the Chinese, Persian, Nubian or traditional
Euroba systems of education, they would no doubt focus on
(26:29):
their presence on the world stage as the emphasis for
their educational system as well. To give the European American
the benefit of the doubt, we can understand that bias
and their educational system as being directed towards enhancement of
their self knowledge and not necessarily directed towards the deprivation
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of non Europeans from attaining knowledge of themselves. For the
sake of argument we are developing here, it would even
seem that their educational system is very respectful of the
fundamental criteria for providing a good education for oneself, and
that is it should be directed towards the objective obtaining
(27:16):
obtaining obtaining self knowledge. When we discuss developing the educational
system for African Americans that will not result in miseducation.
We should set our criteria the process of self knowledge.
And I want to shift here just a moment to
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the civilization of barbarism by Yop and Yap is talking
to us. Let's see if I can find it here.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Okay, if y'all ever is looking like looking for a gift,
a good gift for Rabbi him bookmarks, all.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Kind of bookmarks.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
All right, yeah, yeah, that's that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I've been trying to sit here for the longest, like
this whole time, trying to figure out what I was
going to get you for retirement.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Now I know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
We we have to understand that that that they have borrowed,
if not borrowed.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Stolen about saying borrow have stolen Okay, oh.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Not just artifacts, not just knowledge, but.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Almost everything literally, Okay, that that that we we we
have the phases of the moon, the calendar, the um um,
(29:14):
the orientation of of of of monuments, the decans, okay,
et cetera. When you go back and you look at
how when the Romans conquered uh Africa through Egypt in
forty seven d c. Uh and Caesar altered the Egyptian
(29:39):
calendar by introducing uh the readjustment every four years leap year,
and that was the origin of the present day calendar
has been said the Egyptians were ignorant of the notion
of an era, that the calendar year was a fluctuating one.
You have, you have uh, all these kinds of adjustments
(30:04):
that or or remaking. Renaming China I think we've talked
about this on the show before. Was not named China, Okay.
It was Ylu named after the Yalu, after the Yalu
River and Yalu and Chinese is yellow, all right. And
when they got there they found them had some tableware
(30:29):
that was made out of what we now call porcelain,
all right, and it was called China. And so they
ended up calling you you see you see you see
orange man trying to do it with the Gulf of Mexico.
All right, yes, and so we we we have to
(30:51):
take in understand and and and uh uh and and
look at how they have fully orchestrated thing things. Um.
(31:11):
You you have Negroid, which is about one hundred and
fifty thousand years ago when you begin to take in
and really kind of began to deal with ethnicities, if
(31:31):
you will, all right, you have uh the European uh,
Grimaldi's the Grimaldi's Negroid European, which is only thirty three
thousand years ago. Then you have the chromagnum which is
twenty thousand years ago. And so this is this is
(31:53):
how recent and I was, you know, how recent we
can we could deal with their existence. I wish, I
wish I could call on doctor Barisia day again, she's
back in Nigeria now and talk about how how after
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the ourls Ice Age that things got developed after the
Ice Age and how Africa had civilized civilized Europe if
you will. Okay, after the Ice Age, they kind of
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turned their backs on the at civilization and went into
what was called the Dark Age, and from there then
they went into the re emergence of the Moors, coming
back into Europe around seven hundred seven seven and fourteen
(32:59):
early seven hundreds and began to uh, to recivilize Europe.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Before you move forward, can we give a little background
on the Moors and where they originated from things of
that nature, because some people just you know, we have.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, well this when we talk about we as you know,
I said, noticed, I said, Africans. Okay, we have not
divided and necessarily into religions after the Ice Age. Okay,
now we have divisions now, okay, Uh, it's it's the
Romans have conquered UH, Africa and forty seven BC. UH,
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and they're they're running Europe and and and what is
what we call the known world. Then and uh, you
have the establishment of what what we call I don't like, uh, Semitism, Semitics,
I'd rather say Semitics and the Hebrews and their religious concept, okay,
(34:09):
out of that, and then grows Christianity all right, out
of the Semitic movement or way of life. And then
that's that's around. That's around. Yoshua the Messiah is born
(34:29):
around six a d AD does not mean after death, okay,
but he's born about six a d in the year
of our Lord, Okay. And then you so then then
at about thirty nine thirty forty a d he comes begins,
his ministry is crucified after about after three and a
(34:55):
half years, and Christianity now formulated through Africa, because Egypt, Jordan,
all those countries were all African countries. He after his
death bury on the resurrection. Uh. Christianity becomes the way
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it's called. It was called the way it wasn't called Christianity,
it was called the way it is pervasive. It was
called the way it became Christianity. It was a joke okay, Europeans,
Oh that goes one of them Christians, ha ha. Okay.
And we even turned it, it turned it into something positive, okay.
But it was originally the way, and its symbol was
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a fish. Anyhow, three hundred years later, okay, you have Constantine,
who is now the Roman Emperor. Okay, and he embraces Christianity,
not for the sake of Christianity, but for control of
the masses, all right. He calls the Council of Nicia
(36:01):
together a sweet three twenty three, three twenty five. The
Council of Nicea canaonizes eighty eight books of the the
Ethiopian Bible. Okay, this is not this is just a narrative.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Only the original Ethiopian Bibles. How many books?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Eighty eight eighty eight? Okay? Uh? And I I have
it in my car okay, Okay, I was thinking ninety
for sorry, I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
About the two other main books missing from the kJ V.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well, there's more than King James.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, it's more. Think about the two main one that
people always speak on.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Ok go ahead, yeah, okay, okay. A Book of Maccabees
of Enoch and some others believe how and so then
you have about three hundred years after the the Uh
the establishment. So what what what would Constantine establishes is
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the Catholic Church is already existing, all right, from Christ
to or from or from the day of Pentecost, all
right to Constantine, you have the Catholic Church. Catholic means
(37:23):
no more than the Universal Church, all right. Now with
Constantine you have the establishment of the denomination the Roman Catholics,
all right, okay, and that's three twenty three, okay, three
twenty five. They come up with the sixty to eighty
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eight Books of the Church, the Roman Catholic Church. Then
under Jerome, under the urging of Jerome's wife, the Infra,
Jerome takes and takes out seven books. They and developed
the Latin Vulgate, all right, and later they translated into English.
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So three hundred years after Constantine, you have the Advent
of Islam in six twenty three AD. Right now, that's
that's part of your seventh century movement. And now they're
moving northward central Africa for the most part, moving north
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northwards central and eastern Africa, moving northward into southern Europe.
You have Christianity. Paul has already evangelized Southern Europe. Okay,
and the Christian or the way of the Christian churches
we know it now is established. And now there's their strife.
(38:53):
There's a struggle between Islam and Christianity over Southern Europe.
So Europeans don't know what to do, so they decide
to become Semitics or jew what we now call Jewish. Okay,
there's no such word as Jew back then. All right,
I don't see how they could have on the cross
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king of the Jews because there's no letter J in
the English language until fifteen forty eight. Yes, okay, So anyhow,
so now that's so what you now have the converts
in Southern Europe. Baron Williams, doctor Farron Williams out of Indianapolis,
(39:37):
in his book The Bible Is Black History and Beyond
caused them a euro Jew okay, doctor Barishia day and
even some people that I know who are okay call
it Askonazi. Okay. Then you have the Separdine okay, which
I believe Jesus was okay. And you have Philasha, which
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is uh. You you have that's the group in in
Uh Ethiopia, and I believe that's where the ark of
the Covenant is with them, okay. And then you have
the Haplo group h A p l O, the Haplo group,
all Semitics except as Konazi. All these groups that I've
called other than as Konazis have Abrahamic DNA and our
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Semitic okay. So I can't be anti Semitic because I
am a Semitic. I am Semitism myself, okay. And so
we are the chosen people, all right, and we have
been tricked into believing that we are not. I hope
I make you sense here.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
What's the best way to trick a nation of people
out of their own culture.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
To take control of it, right, and then teach them
what you want them to know.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
And now we are in a space where we not
only know what it is that they thought that they
wanted to introduce us to, we are in an age
where we are able to reconnect on our own.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
So they want to kill knowledge, right. So they want
to kill the educational system so that we won't read
and write, so we can't read the history. But they
made a mistake. We have audio.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Books that and I don't think they realized how many
young people are willing to pour into our own villages.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Because we are.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, I'm hoping I can meet some of them, because
for the most part, the ones I run into don't
want to hear it. That's all ancient stuff, and we
ain't about that, and they don't understand that we are
some anointed people. But anointing its contly, yes, that we
have paid a price for them to be where they are. Somebody,
(41:59):
you know, my great grandparents are my grandparents, even my parents,
all right, The caught were born during the Jim Crow
Black Codes era, all right, and so they came up
in some stuff. Right Now, I didn't come up in
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what my grandparents or great grandparents, but I came up
in some stuff that was much worse than what's going
on today that they're trying to What they don't understand,
the young people don't understand now, is they're trying to
go back one hundred years to the nineteen twenties or
even the eighteen twenties with us and put us in
(42:42):
quote our place, all right, And for the most part,
the more you fight me, or we fight one another,
the more we help them accomplish that goal.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
And that's why it's important.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Like you highlighted at the beginning of the show, we
are not each other enemies.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Right, We're not all right.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
But we have been tricked into believing that we are.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Now. We're not always gonna get along, We're not always
in this is not this is not black utopia. We
can take and put our differences aside so that we
can take and unify, all right, and and and and
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cooperate with one another. All right. I don't like everybody
I meet, all right, but if they look like me,
you don't get the benefit of the doubt for us
to work together and do some things, all right, to
make sure that our community is taking care of I
hope I'm making sense for too, okay, all right? And
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so when we know ourselves all right, uh, and we
have a good idea of who we are and what
we can accomplish together.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
A right, give the book one more time.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
All right, know thyself by naim akbar. That's in a apostrophe.
I am ak b a r. And we must understand people.
Oh listen, I want to go here. The most powerful
weapon we can begin to develop, other than unification, is
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to educate ourselves. Power is the ability to influence the
environment consistent with one's self interests. Let me say that again.
Listen to me. Education as power. Power is the ability
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to influence the environment consistent with one's self interests. Not
only do I have power to influence you as a person,
but I can. I'm looking at but I think they
fixed their half something. I heard the lady talk about
Cleveland Foundation. They're downtown on what eleventh? Eleventh and Euclid?
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Who else where? They are now sixty sixth in Euclid,
in the heart of the black community. Why why they
have the money? Okay they're talking about you talked about
how they're trying to take the late property. Okay, why
they want it? They have the money, all right, So
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they have the power and the education they know how
to use Okay, the education, all right, and money to
take control of what. And we all we can do
is sit by and watch because we can't come to
We can't come together and put five dollars together for
our arguing.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Over it to red sense from one pack to the next.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
We we can't. We we won't to know if I
get if if we had five dollars. We want to
know who's gonna be in charge and who's gonna have
the final say or who's gonna spend the money? All right,
so they come together and decide that before they go
to public. This is what we're gonna do. You need,
(46:28):
this is you, This is what you have over here
being This is what you have over here, darvo, this
is what you have over here? All right.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I noticed a trend in our community that it wants
a lot of people want to be cheese.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Everybody wants to be cheafd Nobody wants to be Indian.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
But every Indian has its place and it's part to
play pray. You can't always be in charge, honestly.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
But see we have been tricked at. You're nobody unless
you're in the office with the white or appear to
be in charge.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Okay, that's okay, and so and I hear we have
so many black black counselors now, all right. Our agencies
are hurting because we have I know of I know
of one hundred black women who are counselors who have
their private practice. I mean, I know some black dudes too. Okay,
(47:31):
all right, who's coming one? I don't know how I'm
gonna handle it. He's in on the West coast. Now
he should have graduated. I think this weekend of this
coming weekend with his second masters, he's coming to town
to duplicate a program by the same name that one's
(47:53):
already here doing the same thing. Yes, uh uh huh, Yes,
that's what we need. Yeah, both of them look like me. Okay,
all right, and it's that kind of stuff. Okay. Now
he didn't know it. Okay, and I could understand that
(48:15):
he didn't know it. But then again, now that you
know it, why can't we make an adjustment or why
can't the two of you come together, partner?
Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yes, work together.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
We have to get back to our village ways of life,
ways of living, working together.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
You think every back in the day, you think everybody
in the village like each other. No, no, I understood
that they need each other.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
You like catfish, I like children's You know, I use
that to death. But you know you eat your catfish
and eat my children. But when it comes time, we
leave our personal preferences and.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
We go get it SILD together.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Real quick, right, my only way out. I definitely want
to hear what advice you have for people who not
only want to get involved and continue to educate themselves.
But the people that want to further get to know themselves,
because how can we help our village if we don't
(49:20):
know ourselves, If we don't know what ourselves and our
own family needs, what are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
The first thing I would say that work for me
was my involvement with the Black Church. Okay. In that process, okay,
I was constantly looking for I think I shared this
with you guys last week. I was walking through the
(49:50):
house always looking for I went every week, every chance
I got a chance, I went through all the drawers, said,
I mean in every dresser. We had one, two, three,
four dressers in the house. We had a buffet, we
had a pantry, We had an attic with trunks in it,
We had uh and I would go through looking for stuff,
(50:10):
looking for stuff. Looking I knew what was in it,
but I was going through those drawers and trunks, suitcase
looking for something. And finally, in my conversion into real
conversion into Christianity, I found I was looking for myself.
Mm okay, and I did not like me.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
And that's why people numb themselves, not only because of
their past traumas, but because they don't like what they
see when they look in the mir the mirror.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
I did not like me, and I had to learn
to like me, all right, and to be alone with
me a lot of times. This is why people always
got music or gotta always have be in conversation, always
gotta have people around them, because they could not stand
to be alone themselves. And so, uh, they kept active,
(51:04):
kept busy, all right. But when you get along with yourself,
you have to look at yourself. But then when you
look at yourself, be kind to yourself. Okay, all right,
uh and uh, and don't beat yourself totally up, but
know that you need to make some adjustments, okay, in
your life. That's that's one thing. The other thing is
(51:29):
that you are get bombarded with information that you need
to take and write down. You you gave me something,
and you know he gave me something in there. Uh,
the next of the young man in the next room,
in the next studio with somebody, the next time fire
by Jeans Balwin. When guess what I've already ordered it. Okay,
(51:52):
it should be here tomorrow. Okay, Okay, there's some I
was listening to something on Facebook. I was listening to
some thing on TikTok. I was looking listening to something
on the thread. There was some terms I didn't know.
I wrote them down. Okay, I'm going to go and
research them. Okay. And the dictionary are okay, and and
(52:14):
the background material and even if it even if it's here,
I'm going to research it. Okay. This is your new
new encyclopedia. It's listen. It's not thorough. Okay, it's not thorough,
but it's it's it's at least it's a start.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Okay for the listeners.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Phone my search engine on my phone. Okay, Chat Chat,
box chat, you know AI? All right, Google? All right.
Me and my friend UH in Dominican Republic, we were
in the process of developing our own AI system. You
know that will be more powerful than anything they have now. Okay,
(52:56):
and so research read all right. This is one thing
they do not want you to do. Okay. I heard
the I was listening to TC and E Money on
a show earlier, and they were talking about movies. I
don't put much truck in movies, but movies do sometimes
(53:20):
tell us what's coming.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I saw a thread about vampire movies and how they're
associated with every time like a big blockbuster hit about
vampires come out, some type of tragedy happens. It's followed
by some type of tragedy, like when Twilight hit something.
I forgot what it was, but something happened. So it's
(53:47):
interesting to hear you say that again.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
But I saw some movies I remember as a kid,
Captain Video all right, I'm at the Hall North Show
up on fitty fifth Street watching the Cereal on Captain video,
Buck Rogers, all right, which was space. Well, they had
people walking on the moon back then. That was but
(54:09):
and now we've had what we've had people walking on
the moon. We have okay, we have satellites. I remember
reading Popular Mechanics when I was a kid, ten eleven,
twelve years old. They talked about there would be a
stove that you would be able to cook dinner in
twenty seconds, twenty minutes all right, and the microwave. All right, well,
(54:30):
people listen, we do we Oh man, it's uh one
fifty nine. It is time to get out of here.
People listen. I will drink from my part of the river,
and no one shall keep me from it. This is
the Rabbi along with the unicorn, saying shalom. Harbor, See
you next time.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
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