July 10, 2025 • 51 mins
Rabbi and DJ Black Unicorn of WOVU 95.9 FM urge the community to support Garden Valley families affected by a recent explosion by donating household items and clothing to 7201 Kinsman Road. They emphasize compassion, the unpredictability of hardship, and the importance of helping others. The conversation explores the erasure of Black history, calling for a decolonized, Afrocentric perspective. They discuss self-knowledge, redefining personal narratives, and the value of meditation, prayer, and discernment. Black Thought shares how a rainstorm served as divine guidance. They close by reinforcing community support and appreciating daily blessings.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is w O v U Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Ah, good afternoon, everybody. This is black thought. Everything must
change to inform, to inspire, and to impact on w
O v U ninety five point nine. If im a
Burton Bell car Radio production. This is the Rabbi along
with the Unicorn of Uni. Unie Uni, Uni, Uni, I've
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been sitting here dreading to go back out into that
wonderful heat. Oh man, but Matt, it is nice. It
is wonderful. But you know, Uni, I've been listening to
the programming today and yesterday, and everybody is all concerned
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about the three hundred dollars that was given pennies go ahead,
that was given to the Sunday School congruer of the
National Baptist Convention and others. Uh understand There's some other
denominations and organizations involved, And I'm not concerned about that
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at this point, Okay. I'm concerned about the people in
Garden Valley. Yes, who's uh dombo soul exploded, uh yesterday,
yes all right, and who are now out of homes,
out of uh personal living articles and and so you know,
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Uni and I and the station Burton Bell Corporation, Uh,
we're asking you to bring some things for people to
re establish themselves. Bring. Let let's let's get some pots
and pans and dishes and glassware and flatware, some clothing.
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Let's let's make sure the clothing is usable. It's it's
not stained and ragged, that is clean. You know, I
would I would prefer that you, you know, stop and
make the sacrifice and buy something new and bring to them.
But if you don't, don't want to do that, and
you have some usable you know, some usable stuff, you know,
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some stuff that you you would wear, Okay, then you
can bring it to the station. Here's seventy two o
one Kinsman the a w ov USE station. What unit
does this?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Uni one zero two? This is Sweet one zero two. Okay, Yes,
you can donate between the hours of ten am to
eight pm right here at w OVU Studios. Again, that's
seven two zero one Kinsman Road, Sweet one zero two.
You know, if you want to talk to us, cool,
we hear. If you just want to drop stuff off, cool,
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that's fine. But please give what a cheerful heart with
the small on your face and understand that you too
will be blessed with your forgiving.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, you must, we may must understand it also one
day this might be you.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, you know, and no one is excluded. People don't understand,
you know. They look at unhoused individuals all the time
and wonder how they got into that situation. It could
have been a house fire, it could have been a
job lost, it could have been a divorce. You have
no idea what happened to that person and transpired in
their life. So one don't judge to help when you
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can all this bootstrip picking yourself off off your bootstrip.
If you ain't got a boot to pick up, how
you gonna do anything?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Absolutely right, UNI, Yeah, absolutely right. So people, let's respond
to our brothers and sisters and our children who need
us right now, let's do something to reach out and
help each and every one of them. Come to the
station seventy two oh one Kensman Road.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, well you gonna take care of each other.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, absolutely, we have a history of that, all right,
you know. Were One of the things that I'm i
am realizing today is that we are in the process,
we are being blessed all right to see the process
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of how our history was twisted, taken and destroyed hidden. Okay,
we're getting a first hand view, and I don't think
many of us realize it. We're walking around with social blinders,
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cultural blinders, even spiritual blinders.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
On the blessing and the price that has been paid.
A lot of people, like you said, are walking around blind,
not understanding what it took for you to be able
to sit at that restaurant table, what it took for
you to be able to drink from a fountain, whether
you want to or not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And you know, you know, I don't I hear lately
for for for for cultural sake, Okay, I don't read
a lot of people who, especially of the other persuasion,
who try to write some black history. Uh I I
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I love Robin di'angelo mm because she writes about it,
but from her perspective and how she and her people
viewed okay, and used it to their advantage. But it
was a po it was positive, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Robert P. Long in his book White Too Long, Uh,
Tim Wise writings and I ran across Jason Stanley, Jason
Stanley erasing history, how fascist rewrite the past to control
the future. All right, and let's let's move that. Change
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one word there, Let's change the narrative just a little bit,
which we ought to be how racist rewrite the past
to control the future, How bigots, uh, rewrite the past
to control the future.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Because even them themselves can play nice.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh yeah, oh yes, Robin di'angelo, Robin DiAngelo a nice racist. Okay,
even even the fiasco that we got going now out
here with the controversy the National Baptist Convention and and
and targets, how targets is playing nice exactly. You know,
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at a very cheap price.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You're like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, come on back now,
we can figure this out.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, okay, I throw you a little penny. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I mean when you look at the grand scheme of
their actual revenue.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Quarterly, oh yes it was.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It was pennies.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Pennies.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I would be like, if I was at that table
and they said that number, I would be insulted.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes, so insalted.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You're not even offering I'm not even asking for like
a quarter, but you're not even offering me one thirty
six of what you get. That's crazy, that's crazy, and
it's insalting. But just sitting there happy signing away, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm sorry, but we have to. We have to. I
really don't want to get off into that yes, I
let others because you know, I don't have enough personal information.
I do know that that as black people, if if,
if everything they're seeing is true, okay, then as black people,
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why don't we go into the room with the National
Baptist Convention and others whoever it is, and let's sit
down and hash out our differences. Uh. If necessary returned
the money and said no, we we can't do this.
You know, we can't do this at this at this level.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I just think of individuals and and that pushback to
not accept the money that that will be received. If
that was too transpire.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I don't think it would be too much because because
as you said, the amount of money that's being offered
is insulting, all right. Uh, And I you know, I
just you know, I know I preached one time at
this church. Uh, and they took up five dollars Okay,
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that was my offering. And I told I took and
gave it to the children's ministry and the church along
with some other money.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, yeah, because oh my people, my people.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So anyway, So but I don't you know, but at
the point I want us.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
To, yes, what are we focusing on.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Focus on today? Is how there's uh we here I live.
Let me go here, let me go here, let me
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go right here. Okay, let me go here. And that's
this is what I want to do. I think of.
The central objective in decolonizing the African mind is to
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overthrow the authority which alien traditions exercise over the African
This demands a dismantling of the white supremacist beliefs and
the structures which uphold them in every area of African life.
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Mental liberation requires that we locate ourselves on the timeline
and map of human history, that we name and define ourselves,
that we rectify the problem of the loss of knowledge
of self, wherein we are overwhelmed by the other people's knowledge. Today,
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the formal education of most people of African ancestry is
usually accomplished in systems that take us far away from ourselves.
We use words, models, languages, theories and values of others
to think of our thoughts and solve our problems. These
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others see us as objects. By looking through their lenses,
we come to see ourselves as objects as well. This
is precisely what Carl Woodson has called the miseducation and
Dubil's calls the double consciousness, always looking at the world
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through the eyes of others, that is the world of
what he calls double consciousness. And I think we need
to begin to re re redeveloped, recolor our lenses through
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the afrocentric lens.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay, re established that connection absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And begin to understand that. I you know, when I
first started out, I came on talking about diurtal logic,
which is different than their's. Okay, with them, it's either
or all right. With us, it is anne with them
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is black or white with us as black and white,
all right. And so when we begin to okay, let's
begin to stop using their images, their theory, their like.
Let us change the narrative again. Let's start at oh man,
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I and I've been saying this for about four years,
five years, and everybody is you know, gets upset. Let's
not use the word racist. Let's wait, wait, wait, let
me before you let me take you back to this morning.
Natural law, legal law, legal law, lets us begin to
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use the word racist. Natural law will not allow us.
Natural law talks about moral principles, all right, alright now,
and the inalienable rights that everybody has that's universal, all right.
So then if everybody has this right, you know, then
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you're taking and denying me. All right, those rights you taking,
denying me those rights the color of my skin. Then
I cannot necessarily uh uh, articulately correctly. Let's go to
break right now. You have black thought, everything must change
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on w O v U ninety five point nine FM.
All right, people on your back here with black thought.
Everything was changed on w O v U ninety five
point nine FM. I don't you know, I I I
don't see why we can't change the narrative. I look
at I'm going back to my young days. Uh uh.
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And the slang languages we use back then, Okay, it's
much different. Tell me some of the used to I
really don't even remember. But uh okay, one of them
we call women's scrumpets. Yeah, scrumpish, like scrumpets, scrump pets.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, what that mean like a little pastry.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah? Uh broad you know, oh yeah, well no, but
that was you just said, my man mad that broad
you know, she that's a bad Yeah, that's that's a
bad Hamo over there. There's a bad Hammo over there.
You know. No, that that came that that that came, Yeah, okay,
(15:27):
I'm in my thirties, forties, I'm going I'm going back
in my teens, and you know, uh hey, you know,
I got to get me some little slides okay, no pants, okay, okay, yeah,
okay that you know now yeah, right, trousers, you know,
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but it was slides back then, you know, and so
it was it was you know, uh uh you're going
to the crawl. Okay, house party we called little cootie.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Crawl, right, have a cootie party.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Hey man, where's the crawl at tonight? You know? Okay,
so we you know, we uh and so we then
I look at how young people today talk about you know, uh,
hey man, listen, I'll be over a little baby. Hey man,
You're gonna pull up on me. I'm gonna pull up
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on you later, you know. I just you know, So
if we can change that narrative, mm hmmm, how why
can't we change the other narratives? All right? All right
and take and do our own and uh and and
and our own defferents without their permission.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Their permission or their bullet points like doctor she said earlier,
like they are coming to the table with us and
giving us things that they want for us? Why are
we not ready when we show up at the table
with what we want and not bending when they counter with, oh,
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well we not willing to do that, we can do this? Well, no, no,
we need to get up and lead our table.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Sorry, they don't even have to be at this table.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I could be focusing on my own table, but you
the one called us back over here because you need us.
Let's be clear.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So so as we begin to reconstruct, let's start out
first we have our own table, yes, and chair, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Let's get our own land with the trees so we
could build the table in. Let's start there, all.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Right, and now we can take and and and and
speak from a posture, okay, of strength and not begging
or asking for chrome.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Not desperation. And that's what please. I'm so desperate to
get back into this store. I'm so tired. I don't
know where to go. I'm sure I'm just struggling because
I'm not I don't have my usual conveniences.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Conveniences not necessities exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Okay, Robert, what do you think will need to happen
for that to transpire? For people to understand like, we
don't have to be unified, to unify you excuse me.
We don't have to be uniform. Unified, yes, and to
understand what it will take to get us to these
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next places as a nation of people.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I think what I see historically it is that Farh
has to decree M that we make brick without straw.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
M And who was pharaoh of today's age?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Federal government? M? What the western Western culture, western society, okay,
the the colonization mentality of the West, mkay. I was
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listening this morning to something earlier, and there was some
what appeared to be people who were well versed in Hebrew,
the Torah, okay, And they were talking with Graham, Senator Graham,
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who was trying to well, you know, the United States
is blessing Israel with the bombing, you know, and the
Bible says that I will bless Israel, I bless those
who bless Israel, and curse those who curse Israel. Okay.
And so the Hebrew skull asking was, so where is
(20:22):
that in the Bible. I don't know. But you can't
even go to tennis in Genesis twelve, you know. And
so then he went on to tell him, he says, no,
he said, he was talking about the twelve tribes of
Jacob of Israel, who were the offspring of Jacob, who
was Israel. And so he was talking about God is
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talking about the people, not this nation state.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Oh really, yes, okay, all right, he said, And he said,
and the people have been scattered all over the place
since seven hundred BCE, all right, And so it's the people.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Not not what is now have claimed themselves to be
of of the of modern Israel, that is not necessarily
of the seed of Abraham.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If you ask a Jewish individual which tribe are they from,
do you think most of them can answer? I?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
The people that I feel that I see now are
more Askenazi and converted. Are European jew rather than the uh,
the African.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And to be clear, you're referring to the ones with
the curls on the side of their head where the
yamakas on the top of the very orthodox I'm referring, you.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Know, I'm referring to the ones who look European.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
They me, you heard me.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You're missing the point.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That's why I'm asking the question.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Referring to the ones who look European, because we know
that the most certainty that the people that biblical people
that we're talking about do not necessarily look like that.
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And and and then we we take and we find ourselves,
we find ourselves fighting to protect that image, even us.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Okay, yes we.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And you know I was I was looking at something.
See see people. Yeah, you got me all over the
place today.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Say, it's a lot going on in this world in
the city. Is a lot of goings right now.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
A couple of two three four years ago, well, no
longer than that. It was about twenty five years ago.
There was a little restaurant opening on Lee Road in
ward Ie. Uh, and they've been They sold fried oysters,
and I love fried oysters. And I went in to
get some fried oysters and mad were they good? And
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I was standing waiting on my or order and there
was a little article on the window said, brought uh
the first black president of the United States. What you
talking about? I ain't know. And I read it and
it was John Hanson. He's president from eighteen seventeen eighty
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one to about seventeen eighty two.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh, don't google it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Go ahead, you'll google it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
No, I'm saying you google it. Barack comes up, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, no, no, no, okay, And I googled it and
it came up.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Really yes, it came up last time I googled bar Well, no,
let me let me finish, Let me finish, let me finish.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And so so then I started teaching Bible study, and
about oh maybe right after Obama got became president, I
googled Hanson and it came up Barack Obama was not
the first black president. I said what I said, Well, yeah, okay,
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so I got I said Hanson, and they said there
was six others other and so I looked them up, okay,
and it was there seven black presidents before Obama, Hanson, Patrick, Henry,
Andrew Jackson, Warren Hardy, Abe Lincoln, one other and Dwight Eisenhower.
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And so I've been teaching even last year, earlier this year. Okay,
I googled it and it came up and kept coming up.
Last week I went to make the point to show
that again. And guess what is wasn't there? They lied,
someone's lied, and now they sits is lied. Barack Obama
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was the first black president. Yes, yes, because they control, okay,
they control, they control, they control, all right, And so
here you go again, all right, we're gonna twist history,
cover it up high, okay to take and uh and
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again we go back to the book erasing history. How
racist rewrite the past to control the future. Uh, and
uh we have to understand that even as I begin
to look and and begin to pull the peel the
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layers back, fascism or colonization is a form of fascism.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Mm hmm, I think quickly on that. Yeah, explain why though,
for for people that just just.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Just what what what? What does a fascist do? All right? Right,
to rewrite you know, to control and uh the future.
And so basically all right, Uh, the colonization follows the
same process. They come in and displace the people. They
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come in and rewrite the history, rewrite the past, you know, hm, facts,
and they come in with they come in at at
at all, even using some of your own stuff against you.
And so you know, we we have to be careful
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about who and what we we ingest and we share.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, your diet is not just what you eat and drink.
It is what you watch, what you read, who you
allow in your atmosphere. All of those things are a
part of your diet, your spiritual diet, the higher self diet.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And I think Naim says either Naiim name Alca says
either he does or or moral. But I think it's
Naim says that you think and you act on what
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you know based on what you know, and if you've
been miseducated, you can only think and act one kind
of way. And hopefully, I'm hoping that part of what
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we're doing on this show is to help people know
a little more, all right, so they can think and
act differently.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And sparking that thought of doing your own research. Anything
you hear here, you black thought, you should be cross
checking yourself anything that you google. You should be also
searching search engines that are all overseas, not just here
in America. Because I'm parromise you. You gonna find different news.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And we encourage it. In fact, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It keeps us better, It keep us honest. Please.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah. In fact, this is why most times I read
from my my resources so that I don't misquote, Okay,
so that we can take and you can go back
and reread it for yourself. Folks. I have the books
that I'm talking about right here in front of me,
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all right.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
If you all don't know. Rather, he carried his library
around with him. Swash out some of the books listening.
Some of them are are staples that stay in that suitcase.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
All right, let's let's go to another break. We you
are listening again to Black Thought. Every things changed to inform,
to inspire and to impact on w O v U
ninety five point nine F. M will be right back.
All right, people, you're back here with Black Thought. Everything
must change on w O v U ninety five point
nine FM. We have been all over the place talking
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about some things and reading from some excerpts from Alvin Morrow,
The Breaking the Cursor, Willie Lynch Name akbar Um and
his book Know Thyself and Listen. We got to get
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to know us a little bit better. We got to
change the narrative. We have to. We have to look
at the world through different lenses. We have to begin
to change our worldview. We have to be afrocentric in
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our worldview. Understand that we are diurnal to people, uh
and we we We've got to make some changes in
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terms of the African concept of self. We're tribal in nature, okay,
which is ancestral. We're social, which is relational. We're personal,
which is the mind. We're physical which is the body,
and then we have the fifth self, which is spiritual,
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the soul, and names talks about uh uh. It is
knowledge of self that the so called negro lack which
keeps them from keeps us, he says them, but keeps
us from enjoying freedom, justice and equality. This belongs to
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them divinely as much as it does to other nations
of the earth. And he's repeating, uh of, he's he's
quoting from Elijah Muhammad. So when we look at natural law,
let's let's let's let's explore this. Uni. We did natural
law and legal law. Let's do natural law and divine
(32:39):
Ooh okay, I think you uh said that was there?
Uh today, yes, okay, oh, yes, divine.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
When I saw that, actually, I was curious by nature,
just because when I hear divine, automatically think the most
natural I can think of. So it was interesting to
see those two be kind of put up against each other.
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But natural law again, just to re emphasize on that,
that is the laws that is pretty much made by nature,
given to us because we are human beings, whereas divine
laws the source of God or divine being revelation through scriptures,
religious texts, or divine pronounced excuse me, pronouncements, and whereas
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nature often perceived as absolute and unchanging, providing specific moral
guidance because of the law. But when you hear those definitions.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Do you believe that because we are made in the
image of God, that we also quantify the the divine
law as well?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No, okay, I I think when we were made as
a reflection of Him, we mirrored him. Let us make
man in a in our own image, so we ref
reflect him. But as of the fall of atom alright,
then we we we lose that little that little piece. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Do you feel like manifestation and meditation in the form
of divine law?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think manifestation manh uh, well, yes, I don't l
Let me say it this way, uh, meditation. Meditation for
me is a two way conversation. M okay, okay. I pray,
then I listen, uh cause he's speaking. Yes, We've always
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wanted to pray, but never want to listen. H okay okay. So,
so in that that prayer for me, as a Christian
prayer is as as a Christian I am. Now I'm
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no longer God's creature. I moved from being his creature,
his creation, to being his child. And because he is
the king, I am the member of the royal family.
Being the member of the royal family, I have to
have access to the throne room. All right. Every member
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of the royal family has a scepter, all right, that
each each that that allows them access unlimited access to
the throne room.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Mm hmm right.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And when presented with the scepter, we we must be admitted,
allowed in this into the throne room. That scepter is
prayer when we're members of the Well family.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And that's why the importance of prayer and understanding that
knowledge is so so like.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It is not not just prayer.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah no, no, no, not just prayer, prayer.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
And then and then meditation. Now to sit and either
read scripture or to sit and let him speak through scripture. Circumstances, people, okay, you.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Have You can't pray and just not be observant to
your surroundings because God is constantly in communication.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So now alright, So now since we are in meditative
and looking for him to answer, that answer may come
through natural law.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
How how would it come through Well, that's that's individual.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Okay, Okay, I have vibe, was going to go do something,
all right, that I had no business to do, all right,
And I had to get on the bus to go
do it. Oh no. I took a shower, got dressed.
The sky turned pitch black and thunder light and was
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poured down rain. I mean, you couldn't see across. You
couldn't see from the porch to the sidewalk. It was
raining so hard, okay. And and the phone rang, are
you coming? No? Why it's poor, We're in the missive.
Well it's sun shining over here. Well it's pouring down rain. Weever,
(37:58):
and so I'm not coming. When I decided not to
come and hung the phone up, went upstairs for my clothes,
back off. Guess what what stopped raining?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Said? Your hotel down came out?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Okay, that's that. That was so God can use all
of nature and anything else, all.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Right, And and that's what the meaning of everything happens
for a reason is Yes, that rain came out of nowhere, Florida.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, okay for you, But.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
For another person it was for a totally different reason.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Whatever that person and for the people on the other
side of town. Okay, it was it was fine. You know,
it wasn't any rain, sunshiny Okay. I was looking at
TV this morning, the uh with these four ladies from
somewhere Kentucky, I think Tennessee. Were were in Florida on
(38:59):
the beach, all right, and the storm came up and
they you know, out of nowhere. So they ran to
this cabana and the lightning came to struct the cabana
they were in. All right, It struct the cabana but
not them. But the sand was a natural conductor of
the electricity, so it knocked them out. But it didn't
(39:20):
kill them. You know, h what I you know, it
was something being said to them through that, you know.
So sometimes you have.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
To you know, you try not to drive myself crazy.
But I'm always looking for the signs.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well, I I look for answers, because just to look
for signs you put blinders on, cause the signs may
I mean, the answer may come in the scripture. Okay,
you may come in a phone call.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You know yourself open open, yes, right.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
So anyway, we we we ah, we we must seek
uh uh because we don't have our self knowledge. Who
are we? You know? What are we? How do we
(40:26):
really really function, uh and listen. I'm I'm tired of people,
and I try to as much as I possibly can't
not pleasurize. You know, I'm a reading of the writers.
You know, I was hearing I heard somebody the other day,
(40:50):
UH talk about you. They told us we had five
senses and they lied and he you know, presented himself
as the expert. Well, we have fifteen centsus. But the
information came from somebody one hundred and one hundred and
eleven years ago.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
And I wouldn't even be surprised if they knew that
knowledge back then. But they're just like, you know what
your schooling for clergy, There are certain things you cannot
share with the congregation in the public.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I do you do you? Yes? Yes, you?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
But certain you know other members don't. They listen to
what they were told in school, and they do not
share certain things that are deemed too important to know
for the quote unquote average person, or they just don't
(41:46):
have the tools to fully understand.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Black Church White Theology by doctor farn Williams, who's going
to be on the show very very soon with us again. Okay, yes,
you know I don't have any problems with there's no
thing that God thats does not reveal to me that
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cannot now this. Now he tells me, the scripture tells me,
don't cast my providels before swine. There's some people I
just won't say nothing too. But I don't have any
problem if if it's been revealed to me by the
spirit of God, then I have no problem revealing it
to my people. Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I love that, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I don't want to become spiritually consipated.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yes, And that's what happens to some individuals who attend
a church that is not of the one that you led.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Well, okay, well, if you take it in and don't
give it out, well, I mean that's the way it is.
If you keep taking it. The dead sea is dead
(43:09):
because it takes in, but it gives nothing out, all right,
and so it strangles itself. Okay, okay, So I'd rather
share it than to try to hold it. Well, we
look at the when we look closely at the European
(43:30):
American educational system, with which we already quite quite familiar with,
we see that the fundamental idea behind the system is
exactly this subjective of self knowledge. It is not accidental
that world history centers on the European participation in the world.
(43:51):
It is not accidental that a study of the world
religions looks at the world's religions from the perspective of
Judo Christian religions as the norm. It should be no
surprise that the history of America begins with the interests
of the Europeans, and the concept of knowledge and civilization
(44:15):
has its dawning with the rise of the European scholarship.
Europeans scholars admit that human activity predates the European entrants
on the stage of human civilization by tens of thousands
of years. This only receives limited mention in the Europeans.
(44:37):
So they're not going to focus or put the light
on anyone else. Okay, all right, you talk about each
since you bought your house, you talk about your house.
You don't talk about the place where you lived before.
But then you live somewhere before you bought this house.
(44:59):
All right. So the European you know, takes and deals
with the perspective of when he enters this this stage.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
If you will, there's another saying, rabbo, you only know
from your level of experience. Yes, what have you experienced,
where have you been, who have you talked to? What
have you read? What have you educated yourself with?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
What?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
What have you filled your mind and your spirit with?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
And that's one of the problems I had with some
young people because their level of experience, you know, they
want to tell me where I ought to be, all right,
based on very limited.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I think it's very foolish for an individual and my
age group to do that and not listen. Don't get
me wrong, I have my days, I have my time,
so obviously i'm human rights. What you say, for the
most part, I shut up and listen to you.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
No, but.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Honestly, now answer now.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Uh. But but you know I was dealing with some
young people at the church.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Uh, and you ain't gonna answer me.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Oh yeah, people know I was just joking with you
know you do listen, I was you You are very
unique and and and different kind of a young woman
and I and I appreciate that. Okay, all right, thank you.
I asked them to give me, without going to their
(46:39):
phones or without the use of the GP GPS, how
to drive to Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
They don't know, don't know, they don't know how to
get to that Grandmammy house.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
That was the point. The point is then I told
I told them how to do it. You leave and uh,
we're on Harvard. Go go to to UH to seventy one.
Take two seventy one south to seventy one south. Takes
seventy one south to two seventy bypass. Take two seventy
bypass to seventy west. Take seventy west to forty four south,
(47:16):
UH forty four west. Take forty four west to thirty
five south thirty five south takes you, but you get
a west and east thirty five when you hit up
just below Denton, Texas. Alright, and that takes you. One
takes you west, takes you to fort Worth and east
six you the dollars you How do I know that?
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I've driven it several times. Mm okay, it's m I'm
speaking from my experience, yeah, not from what somebody told me. Alright,
who may not have, but somebody told them. Okay, but
I've driven that I don't know how many times since
nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
A And just to be clear, people, some things aren't
worth your experience. Give me a Bible quote on it. Rabbi,
I know you got one.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
No, I don't, Yes, you do, just have one.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Talk about pearls, you know, pearls that swine you got
one fore? Yeah, I know you got one. For experiences
that aren't worth your time, your energy, You're it's not
worth you even in endeavoring on. It's just not some
of them are. But you have to have that discernment
to be able to know, and just to be able to.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Know, well one of the things is not as well. Uh,
it's it's develop a spirit of discernment than you.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
And you said something earlier that that some answers, that
when you need answers, some come by fasting and praying. Yes.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I remember, I didn't realize how polluted not only my
body but my spirit was until I had fasted, and
I gained so much clarity, and it made me like
not only want to change my diet just in general entirely,
but to do this annually. There are people who fast
(49:11):
quarterly throughout the year, and I'm like, I need to
be like them, cause I I I see things and
I hear things so much clearer, and I I am
so grateful to God for that.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
When I find when I find my circumstance, my environment
beginning to control me. Then I fast and even with television, eating, uh,
needing conversations with people, et cetera, et cetera. Listen before
we go, folks, listen once again, we want you to
take and remember the the catastrophe at Garden Valley.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
We need you to come in and help these people. Uh,
help help us, help them to help themselves. Uh. Let's
let's bring some money, some some clothing, some some pots
and pans and silverware, glassware, dishes. You know, these people
(50:07):
are going to re have to re establish life again,
and they're gonna need a help in hand. If you
can't do that, let's bring some money, all right, so
that we can purchase some things and help them do
some things. Let's let's let's be mindful that we are blessed,
(50:29):
and so therefore let us be a blessing to others.
And with that being said, Uni, you have a last word.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Everyday provides its own gifts. Just open your eyes and look.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Around, and I will drink from my part of the river,
and no one shall keep me from it. You have
been listening to black thought. Everything must change on WOVU
ninety five point nine FM, a Burton Bell Car production.
Thank you and shalom.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
This is w O v U Studios.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
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This is w O v U Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Ah, good afternoon, everybody. This is black thought. Everything must
change to inform, to inspire, and to impact on w
O v U ninety five point nine. If im a
Burton Bell car Radio production. This is the Rabbi along
with the Unicorn of Uni. Unie Uni, Uni, Uni, I've
(00:29):
been sitting here dreading to go back out into that
wonderful heat. Oh man, but Matt, it is nice. It
is wonderful. But you know, Uni, I've been listening to
the programming today and yesterday, and everybody is all concerned
(00:50):
about the three hundred dollars that was given pennies go ahead,
that was given to the Sunday School congruer of the
National Baptist Convention and others. Uh understand There's some other
denominations and organizations involved, And I'm not concerned about that
(01:12):
at this point, Okay. I'm concerned about the people in
Garden Valley. Yes, who's uh dombo soul exploded, uh yesterday,
yes all right, and who are now out of homes,
out of uh personal living articles and and so you know,
(01:34):
Uni and I and the station Burton Bell Corporation, Uh,
we're asking you to bring some things for people to
re establish themselves. Bring. Let let's let's get some pots
and pans and dishes and glassware and flatware, some clothing.
(01:55):
Let's let's make sure the clothing is usable. It's it's
not stained and ragged, that is clean. You know, I
would I would prefer that you, you know, stop and
make the sacrifice and buy something new and bring to them.
But if you don't, don't want to do that, and
you have some usable you know, some usable stuff, you know,
(02:17):
some stuff that you you would wear, Okay, then you
can bring it to the station. Here's seventy two o
one Kinsman the a w ov USE station. What unit
does this?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Uni one zero two? This is Sweet one zero two. Okay, Yes,
you can donate between the hours of ten am to
eight pm right here at w OVU Studios. Again, that's
seven two zero one Kinsman Road, Sweet one zero two.
You know, if you want to talk to us, cool,
we hear. If you just want to drop stuff off, cool,
(02:56):
that's fine. But please give what a cheerful heart with
the small on your face and understand that you too
will be blessed with your forgiving.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, you must, we may must understand it also one
day this might be you.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, you know, and no one is excluded. People don't understand,
you know. They look at unhoused individuals all the time
and wonder how they got into that situation. It could
have been a house fire, it could have been a
job lost, it could have been a divorce. You have
no idea what happened to that person and transpired in
their life. So one don't judge to help when you
(03:30):
can all this bootstrip picking yourself off off your bootstrip.
If you ain't got a boot to pick up, how
you gonna do anything?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Absolutely right, UNI, Yeah, absolutely right. So people, let's respond
to our brothers and sisters and our children who need
us right now, let's do something to reach out and
help each and every one of them. Come to the
station seventy two oh one Kensman Road.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, well you gonna take care of each other.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, absolutely, we have a history of that, all right,
you know. Were One of the things that I'm i
am realizing today is that we are in the process,
we are being blessed all right to see the process
(04:23):
of how our history was twisted, taken and destroyed hidden. Okay,
we're getting a first hand view, and I don't think
many of us realize it. We're walking around with social blinders,
(04:46):
cultural blinders, even spiritual blinders.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
On the blessing and the price that has been paid.
A lot of people, like you said, are walking around blind,
not understanding what it took for you to be able
to sit at that restaurant table, what it took for
you to be able to drink from a fountain, whether
you want to or not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And you know, you know, I don't I hear lately
for for for for cultural sake, Okay, I don't read
a lot of people who, especially of the other persuasion,
who try to write some black history. Uh I I
(05:34):
I love Robin di'angelo mm because she writes about it,
but from her perspective and how she and her people
viewed okay, and used it to their advantage. But it
was a po it was positive, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Robert P. Long in his book White Too Long, Uh,
Tim Wise writings and I ran across Jason Stanley, Jason
Stanley erasing history, how fascist rewrite the past to control
the future. All right, and let's let's move that. Change
(06:18):
one word there, Let's change the narrative just a little bit,
which we ought to be how racist rewrite the past
to control the future, How bigots, uh, rewrite the past
to control the future.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Because even them themselves can play nice.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh yeah, oh yes, Robin di'angelo, Robin DiAngelo a nice racist. Okay,
even even the fiasco that we got going now out
here with the controversy the National Baptist Convention and and
and targets, how targets is playing nice exactly. You know,
(07:05):
at a very cheap price.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You're like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, come on back now,
we can figure this out.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, okay, I throw you a little penny. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I mean when you look at the grand scheme of
their actual revenue.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Quarterly, oh yes it was.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
It was pennies.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Pennies.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I would be like, if I was at that table
and they said that number, I would be insulted.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yes, so insalted.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You're not even offering I'm not even asking for like
a quarter, but you're not even offering me one thirty
six of what you get. That's crazy, that's crazy, and
it's insalting. But just sitting there happy signing away, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm sorry, but we have to. We have to. I
really don't want to get off into that yes, I
let others because you know, I don't have enough personal information.
I do know that that as black people, if if,
if everything they're seeing is true, okay, then as black people,
(08:12):
why don't we go into the room with the National
Baptist Convention and others whoever it is, and let's sit
down and hash out our differences. Uh. If necessary returned
the money and said no, we we can't do this.
You know, we can't do this at this at this level.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I just think of individuals and and that pushback to
not accept the money that that will be received. If
that was too transpire.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I don't think it would be too much because because
as you said, the amount of money that's being offered
is insulting, all right. Uh, And I you know, I
just you know, I know I preached one time at
this church. Uh, and they took up five dollars Okay,
(09:08):
that was my offering. And I told I took and
gave it to the children's ministry and the church along
with some other money.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, yeah, because oh my people, my people.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So anyway, So but I don't you know, but at
the point I want us.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
To, yes, what are we focusing on.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Focus on today? Is how there's uh we here I live.
Let me go here, let me go here, let me
(09:53):
go right here. Okay, let me go here. And that's
this is what I want to do. I think of.
The central objective in decolonizing the African mind is to
(10:17):
overthrow the authority which alien traditions exercise over the African
This demands a dismantling of the white supremacist beliefs and
the structures which uphold them in every area of African life.
(10:39):
Mental liberation requires that we locate ourselves on the timeline
and map of human history, that we name and define ourselves,
that we rectify the problem of the loss of knowledge
of self, wherein we are overwhelmed by the other people's knowledge. Today,
(11:05):
the formal education of most people of African ancestry is
usually accomplished in systems that take us far away from ourselves.
We use words, models, languages, theories and values of others
to think of our thoughts and solve our problems. These
(11:30):
others see us as objects. By looking through their lenses,
we come to see ourselves as objects as well. This
is precisely what Carl Woodson has called the miseducation and
Dubil's calls the double consciousness, always looking at the world
(11:52):
through the eyes of others, that is the world of
what he calls double consciousness. And I think we need
to begin to re re redeveloped, recolor our lenses through
(12:15):
the afrocentric lens.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Okay, re established that connection absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And begin to understand that. I you know, when I
first started out, I came on talking about diurtal logic,
which is different than their's. Okay, with them, it's either
or all right. With us, it is anne with them
(12:44):
is black or white with us as black and white,
all right. And so when we begin to okay, let's
begin to stop using their images, their theory, their like.
Let us change the narrative again. Let's start at oh man,
(13:06):
I and I've been saying this for about four years,
five years, and everybody is you know, gets upset. Let's
not use the word racist. Let's wait, wait, wait, let
me before you let me take you back to this morning.
Natural law, legal law, legal law, lets us begin to
(13:28):
use the word racist. Natural law will not allow us.
Natural law talks about moral principles, all right, alright now,
and the inalienable rights that everybody has that's universal, all right.
So then if everybody has this right, you know, then
(13:51):
you're taking and denying me. All right, those rights you taking,
denying me those rights the color of my skin. Then
I cannot necessarily uh uh, articulately correctly. Let's go to
break right now. You have black thought, everything must change
(14:13):
on w O v U ninety five point nine FM.
All right, people on your back here with black thought.
Everything was changed on w O v U ninety five
point nine FM. I don't you know, I I I
don't see why we can't change the narrative. I look
at I'm going back to my young days. Uh uh.
(14:38):
And the slang languages we use back then, Okay, it's
much different. Tell me some of the used to I
really don't even remember. But uh okay, one of them
we call women's scrumpets. Yeah, scrumpish, like scrumpets, scrump pets.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, what that mean like a little pastry.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah? Uh broad you know, oh yeah, well no, but
that was you just said, my man mad that broad
you know, she that's a bad Yeah, that's that's a
bad Hamo over there. There's a bad Hammo over there.
You know. No, that that came that that that came, Yeah, okay,
(15:27):
I'm in my thirties, forties, I'm going I'm going back
in my teens, and you know, uh hey, you know,
I got to get me some little slides okay, no pants, okay, okay, yeah,
okay that you know now yeah, right, trousers, you know,
(15:49):
but it was slides back then, you know, and so
it was it was you know, uh uh you're going
to the crawl. Okay, house party we called little cootie.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Crawl, right, have a cootie party.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Hey man, where's the crawl at tonight? You know? Okay,
so we you know, we uh and so we then
I look at how young people today talk about you know, uh,
hey man, listen, I'll be over a little baby. Hey man,
You're gonna pull up on me. I'm gonna pull up
(16:40):
on you later, you know. I just you know, So
if we can change that narrative, mm hmmm, how why
can't we change the other narratives? All right? All right
and take and do our own and uh and and
and our own defferents without their permission.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Their permission or their bullet points like doctor she said earlier,
like they are coming to the table with us and
giving us things that they want for us? Why are
we not ready when we show up at the table
with what we want and not bending when they counter with, oh,
(17:28):
well we not willing to do that, we can do this? Well, no, no,
we need to get up and lead our table.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Sorry, they don't even have to be at this table.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I could be focusing on my own table, but you
the one called us back over here because you need us.
Let's be clear.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So so as we begin to reconstruct, let's start out
first we have our own table, yes, and chair, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Let's get our own land with the trees so we
could build the table in. Let's start there, all.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Right, and now we can take and and and and
speak from a posture, okay, of strength and not begging
or asking for chrome.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Not desperation. And that's what please. I'm so desperate to
get back into this store. I'm so tired. I don't
know where to go. I'm sure I'm just struggling because
I'm not I don't have my usual conveniences.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Conveniences not necessities exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Okay, Robert, what do you think will need to happen
for that to transpire? For people to understand like, we
don't have to be unified, to unify you excuse me.
We don't have to be uniform. Unified, yes, and to
understand what it will take to get us to these
(18:50):
next places as a nation of people.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I think what I see historically it is that Farh
has to decree M that we make brick without straw.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
M And who was pharaoh of today's age?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Federal government? M? What the western Western culture, western society, okay,
the the colonization mentality of the West, mkay. I was
(19:33):
listening this morning to something earlier, and there was some
what appeared to be people who were well versed in Hebrew,
the Torah, okay, And they were talking with Graham, Senator Graham,
(20:00):
who was trying to well, you know, the United States
is blessing Israel with the bombing, you know, and the
Bible says that I will bless Israel, I bless those
who bless Israel, and curse those who curse Israel. Okay.
And so the Hebrew skull asking was, so where is
(20:22):
that in the Bible. I don't know. But you can't
even go to tennis in Genesis twelve, you know. And
so then he went on to tell him, he says, no,
he said, he was talking about the twelve tribes of
Jacob of Israel, who were the offspring of Jacob, who
was Israel. And so he was talking about God is
(20:46):
talking about the people, not this nation state.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Oh really, yes, okay, all right, he said, And he said,
and the people have been scattered all over the place
since seven hundred BCE, all right, And so it's the people.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Not not what is now have claimed themselves to be
of of the of modern Israel, that is not necessarily
of the seed of Abraham.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If you ask a Jewish individual which tribe are they from,
do you think most of them can answer? I?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
The people that I feel that I see now are
more Askenazi and converted. Are European jew rather than the uh,
the African.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And to be clear, you're referring to the ones with
the curls on the side of their head where the
yamakas on the top of the very orthodox I'm referring, you.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Know, I'm referring to the ones who look European.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
They me, you heard me.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You're missing the point.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That's why I'm asking the question.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Referring to the ones who look European, because we know
that the most certainty that the people that biblical people
that we're talking about do not necessarily look like that.
(22:35):
And and and then we we take and we find ourselves,
we find ourselves fighting to protect that image, even us.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Okay, yes we.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And you know I was I was looking at something.
See see people. Yeah, you got me all over the
place today.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Say, it's a lot going on in this world in
the city. Is a lot of goings right now.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
A couple of two three four years ago, well, no
longer than that. It was about twenty five years ago.
There was a little restaurant opening on Lee Road in
ward Ie. Uh, and they've been They sold fried oysters,
and I love fried oysters. And I went in to
get some fried oysters and mad were they good? And
(23:40):
I was standing waiting on my or order and there
was a little article on the window said, brought uh
the first black president of the United States. What you
talking about? I ain't know. And I read it and
it was John Hanson. He's president from eighteen seventeen eighty
(24:06):
one to about seventeen eighty two.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh, don't google it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Go ahead, you'll google it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
No, I'm saying you google it. Barack comes up, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Okay, no, no, no, okay, And I googled it and
it came up.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Really yes, it came up last time I googled bar Well, no,
let me let me finish, Let me finish, let me finish.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And so so then I started teaching Bible study, and
about oh maybe right after Obama got became president, I
googled Hanson and it came up Barack Obama was not
the first black president. I said what I said, Well, yeah, okay,
(24:53):
so I got I said Hanson, and they said there
was six others other and so I looked them up, okay,
and it was there seven black presidents before Obama, Hanson, Patrick, Henry,
Andrew Jackson, Warren Hardy, Abe Lincoln, one other and Dwight Eisenhower.
(25:19):
And so I've been teaching even last year, earlier this year. Okay,
I googled it and it came up and kept coming up.
Last week I went to make the point to show
that again. And guess what is wasn't there? They lied,
someone's lied, and now they sits is lied. Barack Obama
(25:40):
was the first black president. Yes, yes, because they control, okay,
they control, they control, they control, all right, And so
here you go again, all right, we're gonna twist history,
cover it up high, okay to take and uh and
(26:05):
again we go back to the book erasing history. How
racist rewrite the past to control the future. Uh, and
uh we have to understand that even as I begin
to look and and begin to pull the peel the
(26:30):
layers back, fascism or colonization is a form of fascism.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Mm hmm, I think quickly on that. Yeah, explain why though,
for for people that just just.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Just what what what? What does a fascist do? All right? Right,
to rewrite you know, to control and uh the future.
And so basically all right, Uh, the colonization follows the
same process. They come in and displace the people. They
(27:12):
come in and rewrite the history, rewrite the past, you know, hm, facts,
and they come in with they come in at at
at all, even using some of your own stuff against you.
And so you know, we we have to be careful
(27:34):
about who and what we we ingest and we share.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, your diet is not just what you eat and drink.
It is what you watch, what you read, who you
allow in your atmosphere. All of those things are a
part of your diet, your spiritual diet, the higher self diet.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And I think Naim says either Naiim name Alca says
either he does or or moral. But I think it's
Naim says that you think and you act on what
(28:16):
you know based on what you know, and if you've
been miseducated, you can only think and act one kind
of way. And hopefully, I'm hoping that part of what
(28:37):
we're doing on this show is to help people know
a little more, all right, so they can think and
act differently.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And sparking that thought of doing your own research. Anything
you hear here, you black thought, you should be cross
checking yourself anything that you google. You should be also
searching search engines that are all overseas, not just here
in America. Because I'm parromise you. You gonna find different news.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And we encourage it. In fact, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It keeps us better, It keep us honest. Please.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah. In fact, this is why most times I read
from my my resources so that I don't misquote, Okay,
so that we can take and you can go back
and reread it for yourself. Folks. I have the books
that I'm talking about right here in front of me,
(29:43):
all right.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
If you all don't know. Rather, he carried his library
around with him. Swash out some of the books listening.
Some of them are are staples that stay in that suitcase.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
All right, let's let's go to another break. We you
are listening again to Black Thought. Every things changed to inform,
to inspire and to impact on w O v U
ninety five point nine F. M will be right back.
All right, people, you're back here with Black Thought. Everything
must change on w O v U ninety five point
nine FM. We have been all over the place talking
(30:17):
about some things and reading from some excerpts from Alvin Morrow,
The Breaking the Cursor, Willie Lynch Name akbar Um and
his book Know Thyself and Listen. We got to get
(30:41):
to know us a little bit better. We got to
change the narrative. We have to. We have to look
at the world through different lenses. We have to begin
to change our worldview. We have to be afrocentric in
(31:02):
our worldview. Understand that we are diurnal to people, uh
and we we We've got to make some changes in
(31:27):
terms of the African concept of self. We're tribal in nature, okay,
which is ancestral. We're social, which is relational. We're personal,
which is the mind. We're physical which is the body,
and then we have the fifth self, which is spiritual,
(31:50):
the soul, and names talks about uh uh. It is
knowledge of self that the so called negro lack which
keeps them from keeps us, he says them, but keeps
us from enjoying freedom, justice and equality. This belongs to
(32:15):
them divinely as much as it does to other nations
of the earth. And he's repeating, uh of, he's he's
quoting from Elijah Muhammad. So when we look at natural law,
let's let's let's let's explore this. Uni. We did natural
law and legal law. Let's do natural law and divine
(32:39):
Ooh okay, I think you uh said that was there?
Uh today, yes, okay, oh, yes, divine.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
When I saw that, actually, I was curious by nature,
just because when I hear divine, automatically think the most
natural I can think of. So it was interesting to
see those two be kind of put up against each other.
(33:10):
But natural law again, just to re emphasize on that,
that is the laws that is pretty much made by nature,
given to us because we are human beings, whereas divine
laws the source of God or divine being revelation through scriptures,
religious texts, or divine pronounced excuse me, pronouncements, and whereas
(33:36):
nature often perceived as absolute and unchanging, providing specific moral
guidance because of the law. But when you hear those definitions.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Do you believe that because we are made in the
image of God, that we also quantify the the divine
law as well?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
No, okay, I I think when we were made as
a reflection of Him, we mirrored him. Let us make
man in a in our own image, so we ref
reflect him. But as of the fall of atom alright,
then we we we lose that little that little piece. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Do you feel like manifestation and meditation in the form
of divine law?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think manifestation manh uh, well, yes, I don't l
Let me say it this way, uh, meditation. Meditation for
me is a two way conversation. M okay, okay. I pray,
then I listen, uh cause he's speaking. Yes, We've always
(34:56):
wanted to pray, but never want to listen. H okay okay. So,
so in that that prayer for me, as a Christian
prayer is as as a Christian I am. Now I'm
(35:19):
no longer God's creature. I moved from being his creature,
his creation, to being his child. And because he is
the king, I am the member of the royal family.
Being the member of the royal family, I have to
have access to the throne room. All right. Every member
(35:45):
of the royal family has a scepter, all right, that
each each that that allows them access unlimited access to
the throne room.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Mm hmm right.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And when presented with the scepter, we we must be admitted,
allowed in this into the throne room. That scepter is
prayer when we're members of the Well family.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And that's why the importance of prayer and understanding that
knowledge is so so like.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It is not not just prayer.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah no, no, no, not just prayer, prayer.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
And then and then meditation. Now to sit and either
read scripture or to sit and let him speak through scripture. Circumstances, people, okay, you.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Have You can't pray and just not be observant to
your surroundings because God is constantly in communication.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So now alright, So now since we are in meditative
and looking for him to answer, that answer may come
through natural law.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
How how would it come through Well, that's that's individual.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Okay, Okay, I have vibe, was going to go do something,
all right, that I had no business to do, all right,
And I had to get on the bus to go
do it. Oh no. I took a shower, got dressed.
The sky turned pitch black and thunder light and was
(37:36):
poured down rain. I mean, you couldn't see across. You
couldn't see from the porch to the sidewalk. It was
raining so hard, okay. And and the phone rang, are
you coming? No? Why it's poor, We're in the missive.
Well it's sun shining over here. Well it's pouring down rain. Weever,
(37:58):
and so I'm not coming. When I decided not to
come and hung the phone up, went upstairs for my clothes,
back off. Guess what what stopped raining?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Said? Your hotel down came out?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Okay, that's that. That was so God can use all
of nature and anything else, all.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Right, And and that's what the meaning of everything happens
for a reason is Yes, that rain came out of nowhere, Florida.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, okay for you, But.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
For another person it was for a totally different reason.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Whatever that person and for the people on the other
side of town. Okay, it was it was fine. You know,
it wasn't any rain, sunshiny Okay. I was looking at
TV this morning, the uh with these four ladies from
somewhere Kentucky, I think Tennessee. Were were in Florida on
(38:59):
the beach, all right, and the storm came up and
they you know, out of nowhere. So they ran to
this cabana and the lightning came to struct the cabana
they were in. All right, It struct the cabana but
not them. But the sand was a natural conductor of
the electricity, so it knocked them out. But it didn't
(39:20):
kill them. You know, h what I you know, it
was something being said to them through that, you know.
So sometimes you have.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
To you know, you try not to drive myself crazy.
But I'm always looking for the signs.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well, I I look for answers, because just to look
for signs you put blinders on, cause the signs may
I mean, the answer may come in the scripture. Okay,
you may come in a phone call.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You know yourself open open, yes, right.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
So anyway, we we we ah, we we must seek
uh uh because we don't have our self knowledge. Who
are we? You know? What are we? How do we
(40:26):
really really function, uh and listen. I'm I'm tired of people,
and I try to as much as I possibly can't
not pleasurize. You know, I'm a reading of the writers.
You know, I was hearing I heard somebody the other day,
(40:50):
UH talk about you. They told us we had five
senses and they lied and he you know, presented himself
as the expert. Well, we have fifteen centsus. But the
information came from somebody one hundred and one hundred and
eleven years ago.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
And I wouldn't even be surprised if they knew that
knowledge back then. But they're just like, you know what
your schooling for clergy, There are certain things you cannot
share with the congregation in the public.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I do you do you? Yes? Yes, you?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
But certain you know other members don't. They listen to
what they were told in school, and they do not
share certain things that are deemed too important to know
for the quote unquote average person, or they just don't
(41:46):
have the tools to fully understand.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Black Church White Theology by doctor farn Williams, who's going
to be on the show very very soon with us again. Okay, yes,
you know I don't have any problems with there's no
thing that God thats does not reveal to me that
(42:11):
cannot now this. Now he tells me, the scripture tells me,
don't cast my providels before swine. There's some people I
just won't say nothing too. But I don't have any
problem if if it's been revealed to me by the
spirit of God, then I have no problem revealing it
to my people. Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I love that, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I don't want to become spiritually consipated.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yes, And that's what happens to some individuals who attend
a church that is not of the one that you led.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Well, okay, well, if you take it in and don't
give it out, well, I mean that's the way it is.
If you keep taking it. The dead sea is dead
(43:09):
because it takes in, but it gives nothing out, all right,
and so it strangles itself. Okay, okay, So I'd rather
share it than to try to hold it. Well, we
look at the when we look closely at the European
(43:30):
American educational system, with which we already quite quite familiar with,
we see that the fundamental idea behind the system is
exactly this subjective of self knowledge. It is not accidental
that world history centers on the European participation in the world.
(43:51):
It is not accidental that a study of the world
religions looks at the world's religions from the perspective of
Judo Christian religions as the norm. It should be no
surprise that the history of America begins with the interests
of the Europeans, and the concept of knowledge and civilization
(44:15):
has its dawning with the rise of the European scholarship.
Europeans scholars admit that human activity predates the European entrants
on the stage of human civilization by tens of thousands
of years. This only receives limited mention in the Europeans.
(44:37):
So they're not going to focus or put the light
on anyone else. Okay, all right, you talk about each
since you bought your house, you talk about your house.
You don't talk about the place where you lived before.
But then you live somewhere before you bought this house.
(44:59):
All right. So the European you know, takes and deals
with the perspective of when he enters this this stage.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
If you will, there's another saying, rabbo, you only know
from your level of experience. Yes, what have you experienced,
where have you been, who have you talked to? What
have you read? What have you educated yourself with?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
What?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
What have you filled your mind and your spirit with?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
And that's one of the problems I had with some
young people because their level of experience, you know, they
want to tell me where I ought to be, all right,
based on very limited.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I think it's very foolish for an individual and my
age group to do that and not listen. Don't get
me wrong, I have my days, I have my time,
so obviously i'm human rights. What you say, for the
most part, I shut up and listen to you.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
No, but.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Honestly, now answer now.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Uh. But but you know I was dealing with some
young people at the church.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Uh, and you ain't gonna answer me.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Oh yeah, people know I was just joking with you
know you do listen, I was you You are very
unique and and and different kind of a young woman
and I and I appreciate that. Okay, all right, thank you.
I asked them to give me, without going to their
(46:39):
phones or without the use of the GP GPS, how
to drive to Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
They don't know, don't know, they don't know how to
get to that Grandmammy house.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
That was the point. The point is then I told
I told them how to do it. You leave and uh,
we're on Harvard. Go go to to UH to seventy one.
Take two seventy one south to seventy one south. Takes
seventy one south to two seventy bypass. Take two seventy
bypass to seventy west. Take seventy west to forty four south,
(47:16):
UH forty four west. Take forty four west to thirty
five south thirty five south takes you, but you get
a west and east thirty five when you hit up
just below Denton, Texas. Alright, and that takes you. One
takes you west, takes you to fort Worth and east
six you the dollars you How do I know that?
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I've driven it several times. Mm okay, it's m I'm
speaking from my experience, yeah, not from what somebody told me. Alright,
who may not have, but somebody told them. Okay, but
I've driven that I don't know how many times since
nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
A And just to be clear, people, some things aren't
worth your experience. Give me a Bible quote on it. Rabbi,
I know you got one.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
No, I don't, Yes, you do, just have one.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Talk about pearls, you know, pearls that swine you got
one fore? Yeah, I know you got one. For experiences
that aren't worth your time, your energy, You're it's not
worth you even in endeavoring on. It's just not some
of them are. But you have to have that discernment
to be able to know, and just to be able to.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Know, well one of the things is not as well. Uh,
it's it's develop a spirit of discernment than you.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
And you said something earlier that that some answers, that
when you need answers, some come by fasting and praying. Yes.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I remember, I didn't realize how polluted not only my
body but my spirit was until I had fasted, and
I gained so much clarity, and it made me like
not only want to change my diet just in general entirely,
but to do this annually. There are people who fast
(49:11):
quarterly throughout the year, and I'm like, I need to
be like them, cause I I I see things and
I hear things so much clearer, and I I am
so grateful to God for that.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
When I find when I find my circumstance, my environment
beginning to control me. Then I fast and even with television, eating, uh,
needing conversations with people, et cetera, et cetera. Listen before
we go, folks, listen once again, we want you to
take and remember the the catastrophe at Garden Valley.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
We need you to come in and help these people. Uh,
help help us, help them to help themselves. Uh. Let's
let's bring some money, some some clothing, some some pots
and pans and silverware, glassware, dishes. You know, these people
(50:07):
are going to re have to re establish life again,
and they're gonna need a help in hand. If you
can't do that, let's bring some money, all right, so
that we can purchase some things and help them do
some things. Let's let's let's be mindful that we are blessed,
(50:29):
and so therefore let us be a blessing to others.
And with that being said, Uni, you have a last word.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Everyday provides its own gifts. Just open your eyes and look.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Around, and I will drink from my part of the river,
and no one shall keep me from it. You have
been listening to black thought. Everything must change on WOVU
ninety five point nine FM, a Burton Bell Car production.
Thank you and shalom.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
This is w O v U Studios.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
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