July 10, 2025 • 50 mins
The hosts of Black Thought on WOVU 95.9 FM—Rabbi, Uni, and intern Nathaniel—discuss unity, historical awareness, and empowerment in the Black community. They highlight the need for informed action, shared resources, and collaboration despite differences. Topics include the impact of historical trauma, Western value systems, incarceration vs. education, and modern-day exploitation. The episode calls for sustainable living, youth empowerment, and collective growth through discomfort and perseverance.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is WOVU Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good afternoon people. You're now listening to black Thought Everything
Must Change on w ov Hugh ninety five point nine FM.
This is your host, the Rabbi along with the Black
Ulicorn and Man. We got an intern in the office
here with me, Uh, with us brother Nathaniel, and Nathaniel
will be joining us as we move along in the show. Uh,
(00:30):
you an't need what's going on with you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Nothing much?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Staying positive, living the best life I can, blessed by
the best can could forget it, and you know, just
keeping everything in perspective, like we talked about this morning
on our voices. A day book up Tuesday. But yeah,
I'm cool, I'm cool.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
How about you? How was you?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm good. I'm good. I just had two wonderful hot
dogs chili dogs, man, and I counted out. I swear
for five chicken. They were good. And I'm sitting here basking.
I had a cup of coffee and the dome along
with it. But U really, while while while you're out
of the studio, I talked with Na'taniel a little bit,
our our summer intern with the while you program sharing
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with him. He's a young man who's in high school
and the lack of information that's coming down in our
educational system to our young people. And also I think
our community somehow is being irresponsible and not getting information
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to them. This show is wonderful, the station is wonderful
and disseminating history information, having forums. I'm hearing people say
that we have no place to talk. We have things.
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I think there's a lack of communication. We the last
almost three well two and a half years, the Elders
Council has been meeting every fourth Thursday at the tech
Hive developing a strategic plan. We have one now along
with g PACK, the g Political Action Community Committee, which
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is now as of February now a super pack. Okay,
the strategic plan that the Elders came up with, all right,
that we've applied for copyrights solutions every second second Sunday
of the month at three o'clock at the tech Hive
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again we have a black think tank or we come
and then we normally have a follow up meeting on
Wednesday evening to implement some of the possible solutions that
we come up with. I think everybody is so engaged
in their lane that they're not aware of the traffic
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in the other lanes. Oh yeah, I think that's that's
you know, you don't necessarily have to get in my lane, okay,
but at least you need to know. And then there's
also the possibility of our duplicating some things that are
already being done, and then people don't maybe will not
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know which one to get involved in, Okay. Rather than
recreating ten thousand organizations, why can't we have maybe one
or two? Okay, all right, solutions have been going on
for about six years. They are the g Pack has
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been going on for about six years. The Black Women's
Political Action Committee, I think they thirty forty year history okay,
of of coming together and endorsing political candidates. And for
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various reasons, some of the traditional civil rights organizations seem
to have maybe lost their their sense of direction because
they've been co opted. Okay, okay, And then perhaps maybe
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some people come back, coming in can give them a
sense of or help them redirect themselves into what they
were intended for. I just recently became a member of
the Black Journalists okay, on the local level, and I'm
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going national joining the national group. I'm not trying to
go out and create another black journalist organization. I'm gonna
plug into what's already here. If I'm making sense, Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, sometimes people feel like they are so talented that
they can do these things all by themselves, not realizing that, yes,
you are talented, but everyone has a part to play
in the village, and you have to know how to
just work with others, whether you like them or not.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like again, you eat your catfish, eat Chile. You know
you're laying my lane. But we put those things aside
and come and work together.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
We as the ethnicity of people, are not great with
ignoring our differences and continuing on, continuing on to work
with each other. We're very much like, oh no, I
don't like them. I'm not messing with them, period.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And it's like you are missing out on what that person.
You may not like them, but again, they are talented.
They have gifts that God has bestowed upon them as well.
So you're gonna miss out on those gifts and those
opportunities to whatever it is and whatever realm for you
all and black folks, you're gonna completely just dismiss and
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ignore it makes zero sense.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I think I think uni, I think I can almost
work with anyone except a gatekeeper. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I can't stand on gatekeeper.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Okay except the gatekeeper, and Harriet Tubman had a problem
with them. Also, she carried a shotgun so that if
someone was gonna endanger the movement, they had to be
left permanently behind. Yes, so I have no use for gatekeeper.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I feel bad for some of these young folks because
it's so much misinformation out here.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And it was a young lady.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was on social media, just scrolling, going down the
rabbit hole, and there was a young lady on social
media talking tout so bad about Harriet and about how
she was a spy. Now was she Yes, But if
you don't have the proper context to understand what she
was doing, you should not be speaking on it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But was that young lady from another ethnicity?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
No, she was. She was a black young lady.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's what I was so disappointed about.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
She was like, she ain't think she is God, I'm
just like girl.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But please keep reading because you clearly didn't finish the book.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Even if she was, what she did to overcome or
what she had to do maybe to make herself appear
so that she could accomplish her.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And finish the right.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, So that's that's you know, that's a gatekeeper I
can't handle. Nathaniel. You're you're you've been listening. Do you
listen to the morning show. We've had a conversation in
between the show. Now you're hearing our opening comments. Well,
what do you have to say? He got a wonderful
radio voice.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So I don't think that that girl was completely wrong,
but she was wild thinking how Harriet's tummy was a spy.
If you if you don't like fully read read the book,
like how you said you would think that, and how
bad Harriet's summon was. But at the same time, it
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doesn't really matter. You don't understand what she was going
going through at the time.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Okay, all right, that's valid, Okay, all right. Conditions today
don't measure up to what what what we were going
through one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty years ago.
You're absolutely right, one hundred and sixty years ago. So
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you know the thing I'm thinking about, I'm I'm reading
Sister Ali's uh, the Black Women's Guide to Understanding Black
Men's would so to Ali, and one of the things
that I think she brings up in her book is
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our appearance, Okay, our appearance, how we how we appear, appear?
Our identity? You know, can we agree uh to be unified?
And who we are? You know, people of African or
that's what we are. We are people of African origin.
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Whether your ancestors came here as slaves or if they
were indigenous blacks, We're still are people of African origin
who are the original people of of of the earth.
The other piece I think I wanna bring out is
that we have been we have been subjugated to some
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things that we we have a hard time overcoming, Nathaniel. Uh.
And that is the ill treatment that we have endured
uh through these one hundred, uh well four hundred and
sixty years. I'm constantly reminded of Wrestma Menachem's book My
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Grandmother's Hands, who talks about the four hundred years of
trauma that we carried as transferred through our DNA, doctor Harry,
doctor joan degree post traumatic sleeve syndrome.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Does the same thing. Restma comes back I think with
this book called the Quake all right, uh, and and
reinforces the same thing that we we have endured. Uh.
The the historical context. I think you and I talked
about how our babies were used as gatabait. Yes, they've
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had the purses and shoes made out of people of
African origin skin. We have even been been the major
meal at barbecues all right, where the other ethnicity has
barbecued and have eaten us. The the kinds of things
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that they have done, they are raping us economically, culturally, religiously,
even and even physically. Then that's no different than what
was done one hundred and sixty or four hundred years
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ago or more or less, where black men who who
were rebellious are right against the treatment were uh were raped,
were pinned down on the ground and held down and
raped by the slave masters. And then that's why I
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have no problem. I have a problem with men black
men who wear their pants down below their waists, because
that was a signal from the slave master that when
you had been raped, that you had to wear your
pants at half master to demonstrate that you had been had.
I just have a problem with some of those things.
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How we were were roasted as in terms of punishment,
Our women were molested, not just the men, but our women.
Our children were raped at will, and there was nothing
we could do about it because we were considered to
be less than humans, and and and and then to
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think that there is an element in this country that's
trying to move us back to those conditions and circumstances
and situations. And our young people don't are not hearing us,
all right, they're not hearing us, and they see one
(13:20):
another as as enemies. Nathaniel, to some degree, folks cannot
disrespect me enough to make me want to kill him,
because I understand him, okay, all right, and I understand
what the system has done to him, and I understand
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that we are both he at his age, I'm seventy
years older than you, all right, but we have both
been bred, if you will, out of the same circumstances. Uh.
And the game is kind of the same, they just
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changed the name. I talked to a friend of mine
last night who uh has invented a game. Uh, and
he's going to put it on the market later this year. Uh.
And because he gave it to one of those people
who were inventors, you know, they're supposed to help you
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get your game, you your your invention on the market,
they stole it, of course, all right, so they changed
it up. He's changed it up a little bit, changed
the name of it, all right, he's coming back out
with it. And this is the kind of things that
they have done. The first airplane was not the right brothers.
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There was a brother out of Louisiana who had the
patent on airplane, I mean on uh yes, yes, an airplane,
and they delayed and denied him the patent for four
years until the Wright brothers came up with it. All right.
(15:10):
Then they got it and got credit for being the
fathers of As we talked about earlier, Marx is not
really the father of socialism. Ferdinand LaSalle Black German, was
the father of socialism, which grew out of the Book
of Acts, okay. And so you know it didn't come
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out of Europe, okay. It came out of out of
an African narrative, if you will, an African way of
life called Christianity, all right. And so when we began
to understand these things and what we have the offer
of what we can give to one another, how we
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can help one another in spite of your lacking catfish
and my life contitudance, okay, and put that aside and
come together for the common good. Then we have the
you have the labels that have been assigned to us.
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If I'm if I'm white and aggressive, I'm ambitious, hardworking,
go getter, a visionary, Okay. But if I'm the same
person as a black man, all right, I'm aggressive, intimidating,
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or hateful, angry, you know, don't know my place, okay,
et cetera. Okay, if i'm if I'm a white man,
and I maybe every two or three years, I'm changing jobs.
You know, I'm upwardly bound, I'm looking for a better physician.
You know our circumstances. But if I do it as
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a black man, I'm unstable, unreliable, irresponsible, and undependable, all right.
And so and then we're talking about our athletes. All Right,
A mediocre white boy, okay, can stay in the game.
But unless I operate at the superstar level, okay, and
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I fall to mediocracy, I'm no longer wanted to needed.
And it's okay, these kinds of things that we don't
understand that we have to overcome. And then we turn around.
We have the white man beating us over the head, okay,
with these stereotypes and troops, and then here comes to
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black woman. Oh all right, okay, and we're insensitive. Where's
your feminine side? I ain't got no feminine side, you know. Okay, Uh,
your toxic your toxic male just for being masculine, masculinity, yes, all.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Right, for just being.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Just being what men are period. Okay, And so we
we have to then we have to fight those So
we we have we are here in the world. We
have to fight the stereot types of tropes. And then
when we come back to the castle, we can't rest
because we have to fight to be in the castle.
If that, if that makes sense to us, and so
(18:34):
we uh, we need to understand that some of the
things that we endure are catastrophic. Listen, we're going to
take a station break right now. You have been listening
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ninety five point ninety f M. And you know, going
back to the male or black male and female relationship,
there are some situations where in many instances, Black men
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are are going along and thinking that everything is is
is good, it is cool. Uh, but we have some
decided differences and value systems, and we we wake up
and we find that, you know, uh, things aren't what
(19:39):
we thought was. His woman lowers the boom and let's uh,
let's we'll let uh let us know the woman that
something is drastically wrong and we we should have known it. Additionally, Uh,
it's an abstract attitude about many things in his intimate relationship.
He is charged with having poor impulse control. You know.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I I.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Wrestle with this. I wrestle with this because I think
many Western values more rays and morales okay, have been
imposed upon us that that should not be in place. Right.
(20:41):
I think when doctor Bearisha Day was here with us,
she shared with us the fact that thirty men okay,
on the face of the earth could impregnate every woman.
It only would take thirty men.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Biblically, looking back at biblical history, uh, polistic relationships were
permitted m hm. David at civil.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Wives okay, yes.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Samson okay, Uh, Solomon, you know, yes, et cetera okay, yes, okay.
And so have we socialized ourselves into a situation and
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made it law, so to speak. Okay, whereas we are
living in in a fairy tale that's almost impossible, all right,
for the male to keep because of some natural tendencies.
(22:10):
And when we look at other animal groups, and we
must remember folk although the constitution of the Ohios the
US Supreme Court, since we're three human we must remember
we are animals all of all. We're of the animal kingdom,
(22:32):
where we're a performed animals, all right, okay, uh, And
we're mammals and not reptilian. And that in that many
of the animals have multiple mates, horses, elephants, oxens, you know, sheep, goats, no,
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et cetera. And so in that. And then biblically, we
do have the again the evidence in the Old Testament,
and to this date, reading the Vulgate, reading the Jews
Jerusalem Bible, reading the Bishop's Bible, reading the Geneva Bible,
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reading reading the Ethiopian Bible. Nowhere in the Old Testament
do I see where God has disallowed? All right, now
we can we confuse fornication and adultery with some some
things in terms of and I. And in the Old Testament, you.
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You don't find the terms fortification. It's only in the
New Testament. And I think that becomes a Western thought
pattern that has been added.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
To yes, to further people, Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, of what may not be of sin, but something
that someone else cannot carry out successfully. And so they
again they use a law, a legal law, a legal term,
if you will, even a religious term, to overturn or
circumvent natural law. Okay, we've talked about natural law on
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several occasions, and so we when we look at how
things have been manipulated by a certain people to undergird
their shortcomings or their inabilities. All right, maybe I can't
(24:44):
get but one. So I, because I'm in charge, I
take and change the narrative saying everybody can only have one.
If I'm making making sense, okay, And so when we
look at those things, but uh so, then the value
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systems out of nature and natural law can can have
some bearing on the differences between people that are not
necessarily legitimate.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
All right, cause you strip somebody down and you put
him in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And natural law, yes, yes, okay, Ah, then we go
back my my grandfather maybe only had five options. I
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may have had I may have ten, but Nathaniel is
going to have right twenty Okay, options, Okay if I'm
making yes, okay, making sense, And that's.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
How it should be.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Generation after generation should be able to receive more and
more opportunities.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Not necessarily, I think. I think each generation has the
responsibility to build on what the last generation left. Right,
But yeah, okay, all right, and it doesn't necessarily have
to multiply, but it can become stronger and better without
having to become necessarily more.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
All right, Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay, I'm looking at the house house that we we
we used to live in, okay, uh with with the
windows open in the summer time and the accordion screens
in ah way, we didn't need air conditioning necessarily. We
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open the door, all the doors, we open all the windows.
All right, Now I live in we have central air.
And is it necessarily better?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No? Because I'm not I'm cooped in because it got
all the windows closed.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You have no natural air flow.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You're right, yeah, right, all the doors closed. Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Every time you spray something, it stays circulating in the air. Yes,
every time you light one of them fancy candles that
it is not wax or sway or some type of
bees wax based and it has chemicals in it. Again,
you are inhaling those fears absolute and all of those
things are continuing to circle. If you have a gas
stove and you're not opening the kitchen window when you cook,
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all that gas again, it's circulating through.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yes, because all the gas does not burn off okay, yes, okay,
And even the fumes from the gas that's burning all right,
it's leaving some residue in the air.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And we don't understand these things, and we can't understand
why we get cancer. We have this ailment, that ailment
and whatnot and so forth. But we're modern and up
to date, okay, but we don't know what the long
term repercussions are.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Even fast passion.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You buy something enough machine for five dollars, not realizing
how much chemically processed that fabric is.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
The polyester over against wool or cotton, you know, silk, okay,
the natural fibers, And so we we we we we
don't understand the impact of what of being what being
modern really means.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't want to be modern anymore. I want to
go back to jarring like great Grandma, I want.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
To a.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Lot of things. Yeah, I'm sick of it. I'm over
being a millennial in this.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
World.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I'm going back to Grandma waves.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Some of it I think is good. Okay, some of
it is good. And then but then again, horse and buggets,
we didn't have the air pollution that you have.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Now, correct may it took a lot longer.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And that's the things people are not going to relinquish,
the convenience that we now have to go back to
these old ways, and even the convenience that we do
have that like example, zero energy usage throughout solar power.
It cost a lot for installation and it's so much better,
But how many people could actually afford those panels?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
But again and again, if the community came together and
did it a block out of time, block.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Out of time, right, we could do it for each other.
And that's the point of the super path.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But but on the other hand, the solar panels do
not operate by themselves. They have batteries, and one of
the fumes coming off the batteries contributing to global warming.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
About yes, okay, uh that the uh fosse of the
evs electric vehicles the same thing. Uh yes, you know
the electrical cars now and they charge, but the batteries
in the in the in the cars give off. You
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have larger batteries now rather than the combustion engine, but
you have larger batteries in those batteries discharge uh a
waste into the you know.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And then with us cutting down the trees, all right, right,
you have and that's that's part of the again, the
natural process. What the trees do they give us out.
They breathe in the carbon dioxide and they breathe out
oxygen as a waste. We breathe in oxygen, all right,
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and breathe out carbon dioxide. Now we're we're decreasing the
amount of vegetation that we have and increasing the population.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Foolish.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
And then we wonder, it's just like how we are
now having this tree canopy conversation here in Cleveland because
it's so hot on some days, because we have a
pavement a lot of places throughout the city because we
didn't cut down so many awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Trees, trees, and even in areas that don't have grass,
the parking lots where you're gotting rid of the grass,
the streets where you've gotten rid of the grass, or
sidewalks where you've gotten rid of the grass, or again
buildings where there's no grass, all right, even properties that
have no vegetation on it whatsoever. The Amazon force is
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being cut down for exotic woods. Same thing mahogany out
of Africa, et cetera. And so as you decrease the vegetation,
you're increasing the population. Now, the other populations, the colored
population of the it's increasing. Twenty three December thirty first
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twenty three, we reached eight million people, all right, eight
billion people over and against we're seven point eight, you know,
and we're now at eight billion people all right, But
yet the vegetation is decreasing. I know there. I know
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there might be others. I'm almost certain the others. But
the chestnut tree, all right, chestnut trees are extinct. I
think the elm tree because of the Dutch elm disease,
all right, the elm trees are going to become extinct,
and so we have to be careful in terms of
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how we use our environment.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm not laughing at that specific disease. For clarity, I'm laughing.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
When you said elm disease, I thought I thought about
little els living in trees, trees with diseases.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's giving the trees diseases.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I possibility, the diseases that we may breathe all into
the air may be impacting the other vegetation.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yes, because we are ingesting things that are literally changing
our DNA, our body, makeup, instructure, not realizing.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Or using materials like plastics. Right. No, less than two
percent of the housing in America is permanent. A brick
house is not permanent. A brick building is not permanent.
A woden house is not permanent. Only a house that's
made out of natural stone is considered to be a
permanent dwelling place. So your domosile is not made out
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of natural stone, then your your domosael is not permanent. Listen,
We're going to come back here after this station break.
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Black Fault Everything must Change on w o v U
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ninety five point nine film again, this is the Rabbi
along with the Black Unicorn and our Summer intern and Nathaniel.
Nathaniel listen, uh Uh, what's what's what's your vision for
for for your your your future.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Mmmm.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Now that's a that's a pretty hard hard theme to say,
because I've been having recent thoughts thinking thinking, why not
just go to the army because pretty much simpler, and
I actually like like to go good army. But then
I started getting to different things like drama, like drama
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and stuff, so I thought, why not just do both?
Start off the army for for for a little bit,
build up, and then go to the film the filming
and industry, because I know that I'm good with it
a little bit, but then at the same time I'm not,
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so I think I can at least get better at it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Okay, Well, you get good by practicing, and I think
at your age you may not have practice enough to
become a master, but you're in the right going in
the right direction.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
You can also, you know, go into the military. I
would prefer the Air Force because it gives you more
of an opportunity to develop a trade and uh. And
then you have you can come out and you have
you know, your GI bill for college all right, which
will help you pay for your college tuition. Uh, and
(35:43):
which is something I think maybe next week, we want
to talk about our young people do not understand I
don't want to get away from you. Our young people
do not understand that it's it's more lucrative if you will,
in the business sense, to increase bottom line, to have
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you incarcerated than educated. Yes, absolutely, just hypothetically. It costs
you twenty thousand dollars a year to college educate you.
It costs forty thousand dollars to incarcerate a year to
incarcerate you. So, as a businessman, what would I rather do.
Whether I'd rather have a business where I make twenty
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thousand dollars a year or a business I make forty
thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I say go with the forty thousand.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, okay, So then I manipulate the system right to
undereducate you so that you won't have the tools necessary
all right to become a productive member of society. You're
almost forced to become a criminal because I'd rather have
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you as a product in the criminal justice system at
forty thousand dollars. Let's say, yeah, not only that I
get to work you at a cheap or reduce rate.
In terms of license plates in the state of Ohio
made where lacey plates on the car?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Are you even own to dry?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
He don't know, all right, license plates are made in
the penitentiary. Oh where you get maybe maybe maybe that
I think you get something like thirty thirty five cents
a day while you incarcerated.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Something along that.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Those lots.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
If you have a if you're a part of the
work program.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yes, okay, and then you have uh you have uh uh.
Some penlitentiaries have their own farms where they raised their
own food here in Ohio. Okay, graft them for instance,
all right, they have their own own farm, and the
inmates operate the farms. So the food that they're fed,
(38:01):
all right, to some degree is free uh to the
state because the state does not have to pay for
the food because the food is being raised on the
farm and the inmates are during the farming.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yes, so basically they're they're just working to get the
food that they need.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, yes, but the state is also coming out on
top because that's money they don't have to spend for labor.
If I'm making sense, Okay, I'll give you another another example.
You said you you kind of like sports pro football
(38:41):
teams deal uniforms. What what what happens to them?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Mmmm?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Well they get dirty. They sometimes get ripped too, So
that's going to be a lot to spend to replace them.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, but the old uniforms, that intact what happen into
those old uniforms the only equipment I.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Think they get like mmm, put away, destroyed or trashed.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
No, they give them to the penitentiaries, all right, because
they have sports football teams in the penitentiaries. So your
pro teams, Hello, these these lucrative contracts they're getting, they
can at any minute they can do away with pro football,
(39:32):
pro baseball, you know, and and go to having the
inmates playing the games. And guess what those the the
the costs, all right, they have a football team now
is savings. It cost them about ten percent of what
(39:57):
it costs now or less and they can now entertain
people with with games played between the inmates rather than
paying Uh, what's the what's the quarterback for the Browns?
Watching Deshaun Watson? You know? A quarter of a billion
(40:19):
dollars for maybe if he makes the playoffs, twenty games
m less than six months of the year, alright, he
will make a quarter of a billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
H I I kind of think he'll be out there
doing it.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
That's that's the the the point is. The point is
as a businessman, that does not make sense. M And
if I can cut the costs by doing the way
with a Deshaun Watson, uh, what's what's what's the dec
defensive tackle he signed? All right for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I'm busy thinking about black stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I think, okay sports, instead of paying him a hundred
one hundred million, Okay, look at the money I would
save by getting rid of these guys. And I can
still have some quality players in the quality game and
with the inmates because they are working out, they're doing
some of the same things that the pro pro athletes
(41:27):
are doing.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They are decyantizing people for a reason.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Absolutely different reason, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
But to bring if they could bring back the coliseum
right here in America.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
There, Oh, they have done it. It's called pro football,
basketball and baseball, hockey. Yes, it's okay boxing and the
and the karate tournaments. It's twenty first century coliseum. The gladiators,
you know, are are competing all right because you and
(41:58):
I can't get out there and do that us stuff,
you know, without some training. And you know, I know,
I can't even with training unless they have the seniors game,
you know, and we and we do it in the wheelchairs,
you know. Okay, But again, going back to to where
we were, we must understand the nature of the game. Oh,
(42:26):
my friend here from Cleveland, he has his second book out.
We're going to have him back on the show.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
They're playing chess, we're playing checkers. Okay. We we have
to take and forget about Beyonce p didd He not
in the sense that we're not aware of what's happening
to him in the miscarriage of justice. I'm wondering what
(43:01):
he did to upset somebody to have them all of
a sudden turn on him, and the revelation that's coming out.
I believe they had this information many years before now,
but that he turned, he has been protected, and he's
he's termed on somebody, and the protect the arms of
protection have been removed from around him. Well, these are
(43:27):
just kind of some of the things we have to understand, uh,
in terms of how the game is being played, how
they play it, who they play it with, and we. Uh.
One of the things I think I want to leave
with you. I was reading the uh, the introduction to
(43:47):
doctor Franklin Robert Franklin's book Crisis in the Village.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
While you look for that, Rabbi, I will also La
Daniel likes to employ you to think about going to
school first, cause even if you do decided to go
into the military, at least you'll go in officer and
make more money off rep. You'll still receive a GI
bill acluse you want to receive your master's and doctorate.
If you are interested in film photography, they have moss
(44:13):
in the military for all of that.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
There are people like who you think is is filming
on the field. Basti here. I just wanted to put
that out there for you to think about it as well.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Robert Franklin talks about how he was looking for someone
to come up with an excellent book or on black life,
if you will, and he said, as he looked, he
he kept looking. He was finding some excellent books, but
(44:48):
he found that there was something different needed. And this
is what he says. Then, while waiting and searching, I
heard Marion Wright deliver a speech in which she quoted
Mahatna Gandhi's bracing words, we must be the change we
(45:08):
seek and not along. There after, I heard Jim Wallace
the Sojournal magazine and Call to Renew quote the Young
African American organizer Lisa Sullivan, who used to say, we
are the ones we've been waiting for, and so we
(45:29):
must understand that we are the change that we've been
looking for. We are the leaders that we've been waiting on,
and begin to accept those responsibilities. First of all, I believe,
I believe in the depths of me. One of the
(45:50):
steps again is to end maass agree on who we
are real identity I like to turn. I am of
African origin. Uh. Not only that, but being to agree
in what direction we should be going in. I don't
(46:16):
have to like it, but agree upon it. Okay, I
don't like what my wife fakes for dinner some days,
but I know that her expression and her need, you know,
and taste have to be satisfied, and so I take
and eat what she prepares. Though I don't like it,
(46:40):
I agree all right with having dinner in that way, right,
And and that's that's that's the kinds of some simple
things that we we we can do, uh, and we
can begin to move in the right direction. Then. Secondly,
I believe that as we move forward, we have to
(47:04):
take our young people, buy the hand and bring them
with us. I'd love to take and bring you into
our superpack, all right, and other young people your age.
We have a division for young people. I have a
young man I think he's fourteen, and another ten. Okay,
(47:26):
that we want you to learn the process, the dudes
and the don'ts, the negatives and the positives of it,
all right, to learn how to vote, use to develop
(47:48):
functional political power, develop functional political power, to vote, to
use our vote black vote as uh not I've been
since I was twenty one. I've been a Democrat. But
(48:09):
I vote according to who is going to help my community,
right and so uh other ethnicities vote their ethnicity and
not their party. And to learn not to be dependent
(48:31):
on a party. Okay. Dependency breeds loyalty, ah, and loyalty
is demanded whether it's right or wrong. So when you
have a functional political power and you're not voting by party,
you're voting by ethnicity, then you you don't have that
(48:56):
kind of that kind I say that again, that kind
of dependency. When you vote ethnicity, you do have a
dependency and kind of loyal to the to the ethnicity,
but it takes on a different form than voting for
the party. All right, right or wrong? Okay? If I'm
making sense? All right, and so you they what what
(49:20):
do you? What do your your party words for the
days show?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
If you want to grow, get uncomfortable?
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Okay, growth is uncomfortable. Okay, what would you what would
your party? What would your party thoughts be? To people
of your your generation?
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Mmm, let's say, if you want to go something, just
strive for it. Just take this, Just take the shot.
Doesn't really matter what happens. You'll just grow grow over it.
You you get strong drug from it.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Okay, all right, all right, people listen, this is a rap.
I am here on dump your old vu again. I'm
going to say I will drink from our part of
the river and no one shall keep me from it.
And so until the next time. This is the Rabbi
along with Nathaniel and with the black Unicorn saying Shalom
(50:14):
al baha. You have been listening to black thought. Everything
must change. On WOVU ninety five point nine FM. Shalom.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
This is WOVU Studios
This is WOVU Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good afternoon people. You're now listening to black Thought Everything
Must Change on w ov Hugh ninety five point nine FM.
This is your host, the Rabbi along with the Black
Ulicorn and Man. We got an intern in the office
here with me, Uh, with us brother Nathaniel, and Nathaniel
will be joining us as we move along in the show. Uh,
(00:30):
you an't need what's going on with you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Nothing much?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Staying positive, living the best life I can, blessed by
the best can could forget it, and you know, just
keeping everything in perspective, like we talked about this morning
on our voices. A day book up Tuesday. But yeah,
I'm cool, I'm cool.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
How about you? How was you?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm good. I'm good. I just had two wonderful hot
dogs chili dogs, man, and I counted out. I swear
for five chicken. They were good. And I'm sitting here basking.
I had a cup of coffee and the dome along
with it. But U really, while while while you're out
of the studio, I talked with Na'taniel a little bit,
our our summer intern with the while you program sharing
(01:12):
with him. He's a young man who's in high school
and the lack of information that's coming down in our
educational system to our young people. And also I think
our community somehow is being irresponsible and not getting information
(01:36):
to them. This show is wonderful, the station is wonderful
and disseminating history information, having forums. I'm hearing people say
that we have no place to talk. We have things.
(01:57):
I think there's a lack of communication. We the last
almost three well two and a half years, the Elders
Council has been meeting every fourth Thursday at the tech
Hive developing a strategic plan. We have one now along
with g PACK, the g Political Action Community Committee, which
(02:24):
is now as of February now a super pack. Okay,
the strategic plan that the Elders came up with, all right,
that we've applied for copyrights solutions every second second Sunday
of the month at three o'clock at the tech Hive
(02:45):
again we have a black think tank or we come
and then we normally have a follow up meeting on
Wednesday evening to implement some of the possible solutions that
we come up with. I think everybody is so engaged
in their lane that they're not aware of the traffic
(03:07):
in the other lanes. Oh yeah, I think that's that's
you know, you don't necessarily have to get in my lane, okay,
but at least you need to know. And then there's
also the possibility of our duplicating some things that are
already being done, and then people don't maybe will not
(03:29):
know which one to get involved in, Okay. Rather than
recreating ten thousand organizations, why can't we have maybe one
or two? Okay, all right, solutions have been going on
for about six years. They are the g Pack has
(03:52):
been going on for about six years. The Black Women's
Political Action Committee, I think they thirty forty year history okay,
of of coming together and endorsing political candidates. And for
(04:13):
various reasons, some of the traditional civil rights organizations seem
to have maybe lost their their sense of direction because
they've been co opted. Okay, okay, And then perhaps maybe
(04:37):
some people come back, coming in can give them a
sense of or help them redirect themselves into what they
were intended for. I just recently became a member of
the Black Journalists okay, on the local level, and I'm
(05:00):
going national joining the national group. I'm not trying to
go out and create another black journalist organization. I'm gonna
plug into what's already here. If I'm making sense, Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, sometimes people feel like they are so talented that
they can do these things all by themselves, not realizing that, yes,
you are talented, but everyone has a part to play
in the village, and you have to know how to
just work with others, whether you like them or not.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like again, you eat your catfish, eat Chile. You know
you're laying my lane. But we put those things aside
and come and work together.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
We as the ethnicity of people, are not great with
ignoring our differences and continuing on, continuing on to work
with each other. We're very much like, oh no, I
don't like them. I'm not messing with them, period.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And it's like you are missing out on what that person.
You may not like them, but again, they are talented.
They have gifts that God has bestowed upon them as well.
So you're gonna miss out on those gifts and those
opportunities to whatever it is and whatever realm for you
all and black folks, you're gonna completely just dismiss and
(06:17):
ignore it makes zero sense.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I think I think uni, I think I can almost
work with anyone except a gatekeeper. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I can't stand on gatekeeper.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Okay except the gatekeeper, and Harriet Tubman had a problem
with them. Also, she carried a shotgun so that if
someone was gonna endanger the movement, they had to be
left permanently behind. Yes, so I have no use for gatekeeper.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I feel bad for some of these young folks because
it's so much misinformation out here.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And it was a young lady.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was on social media, just scrolling, going down the
rabbit hole, and there was a young lady on social
media talking tout so bad about Harriet and about how
she was a spy. Now was she Yes, But if
you don't have the proper context to understand what she
was doing, you should not be speaking on it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But was that young lady from another ethnicity?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
No, she was. She was a black young lady.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's what I was so disappointed about.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
She was like, she ain't think she is God, I'm
just like girl.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But please keep reading because you clearly didn't finish the book.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Even if she was, what she did to overcome or
what she had to do maybe to make herself appear
so that she could accomplish her.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And finish the right.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, So that's that's you know, that's a gatekeeper I
can't handle. Nathaniel. You're you're you've been listening. Do you
listen to the morning show. We've had a conversation in
between the show. Now you're hearing our opening comments. Well,
what do you have to say? He got a wonderful
radio voice.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
So I don't think that that girl was completely wrong,
but she was wild thinking how Harriet's tummy was a spy.
If you if you don't like fully read read the book,
like how you said you would think that, and how
bad Harriet's summon was. But at the same time, it
(08:20):
doesn't really matter. You don't understand what she was going
going through at the time.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Okay, all right, that's valid, Okay, all right. Conditions today
don't measure up to what what what we were going
through one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty years ago.
You're absolutely right, one hundred and sixty years ago. So
(08:47):
you know the thing I'm thinking about, I'm I'm reading
Sister Ali's uh, the Black Women's Guide to Understanding Black
Men's would so to Ali, and one of the things
that I think she brings up in her book is
(09:09):
our appearance, Okay, our appearance, how we how we appear, appear?
Our identity? You know, can we agree uh to be unified?
And who we are? You know, people of African or
that's what we are. We are people of African origin.
(09:31):
Whether your ancestors came here as slaves or if they
were indigenous blacks, We're still are people of African origin
who are the original people of of of the earth.
The other piece I think I wanna bring out is
that we have been we have been subjugated to some
(09:56):
things that we we have a hard time overcoming, Nathaniel. Uh.
And that is the ill treatment that we have endured
uh through these one hundred, uh well four hundred and
sixty years. I'm constantly reminded of Wrestma Menachem's book My
(10:21):
Grandmother's Hands, who talks about the four hundred years of
trauma that we carried as transferred through our DNA, doctor Harry,
doctor joan degree post traumatic sleeve syndrome.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Does the same thing. Restma comes back I think with
this book called the Quake all right, uh, and and
reinforces the same thing that we we have endured. Uh.
The the historical context. I think you and I talked
about how our babies were used as gatabait. Yes, they've
(11:06):
had the purses and shoes made out of people of
African origin skin. We have even been been the major
meal at barbecues all right, where the other ethnicity has
barbecued and have eaten us. The the kinds of things
(11:28):
that they have done, they are raping us economically, culturally, religiously,
even and even physically. Then that's no different than what
was done one hundred and sixty or four hundred years
(11:50):
ago or more or less, where black men who who
were rebellious are right against the treatment were uh were raped,
were pinned down on the ground and held down and
raped by the slave masters. And then that's why I
(12:10):
have no problem. I have a problem with men black
men who wear their pants down below their waists, because
that was a signal from the slave master that when
you had been raped, that you had to wear your
pants at half master to demonstrate that you had been had.
I just have a problem with some of those things.
(12:34):
How we were were roasted as in terms of punishment,
Our women were molested, not just the men, but our women.
Our children were raped at will, and there was nothing
we could do about it because we were considered to
be less than humans, and and and and then to
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think that there is an element in this country that's
trying to move us back to those conditions and circumstances
and situations. And our young people don't are not hearing us,
all right, they're not hearing us, and they see one
(13:20):
another as as enemies. Nathaniel, to some degree, folks cannot
disrespect me enough to make me want to kill him,
because I understand him, okay, all right, and I understand
what the system has done to him, and I understand
(13:46):
that we are both he at his age, I'm seventy
years older than you, all right, but we have both
been bred, if you will, out of the same circumstances. Uh.
And the game is kind of the same, they just
(14:07):
changed the name. I talked to a friend of mine
last night who uh has invented a game. Uh, and
he's going to put it on the market later this year. Uh.
And because he gave it to one of those people
who were inventors, you know, they're supposed to help you
(14:28):
get your game, you your your invention on the market,
they stole it, of course, all right, so they changed
it up. He's changed it up a little bit, changed
the name of it, all right, he's coming back out
with it. And this is the kind of things that
they have done. The first airplane was not the right brothers.
(14:49):
There was a brother out of Louisiana who had the
patent on airplane, I mean on uh yes, yes, an airplane,
and they delayed and denied him the patent for four
years until the Wright brothers came up with it. All right.
(15:10):
Then they got it and got credit for being the
fathers of As we talked about earlier, Marx is not
really the father of socialism. Ferdinand LaSalle Black German, was
the father of socialism, which grew out of the Book
of Acts, okay. And so you know it didn't come
(15:36):
out of Europe, okay. It came out of out of
an African narrative, if you will, an African way of
life called Christianity, all right. And so when we began
to understand these things and what we have the offer
of what we can give to one another, how we
(15:57):
can help one another in spite of your lacking catfish
and my life contitudance, okay, and put that aside and
come together for the common good. Then we have the
you have the labels that have been assigned to us.
(16:18):
If I'm if I'm white and aggressive, I'm ambitious, hardworking,
go getter, a visionary, Okay. But if I'm the same
person as a black man, all right, I'm aggressive, intimidating,
(16:41):
or hateful, angry, you know, don't know my place, okay,
et cetera. Okay, if i'm if I'm a white man,
and I maybe every two or three years, I'm changing jobs.
You know, I'm upwardly bound, I'm looking for a better physician.
You know our circumstances. But if I do it as
(17:03):
a black man, I'm unstable, unreliable, irresponsible, and undependable, all right.
And so and then we're talking about our athletes. All Right,
A mediocre white boy, okay, can stay in the game.
But unless I operate at the superstar level, okay, and
(17:27):
I fall to mediocracy, I'm no longer wanted to needed.
And it's okay, these kinds of things that we don't
understand that we have to overcome. And then we turn around.
We have the white man beating us over the head, okay,
with these stereotypes and troops, and then here comes to
(17:48):
black woman. Oh all right, okay, and we're insensitive. Where's
your feminine side? I ain't got no feminine side, you know. Okay, Uh,
your toxic your toxic male just for being masculine, masculinity, yes, all.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Right, for just being.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Just being what men are period. Okay, And so we
we have to then we have to fight those So
we we have we are here in the world. We
have to fight the stereot types of tropes. And then
when we come back to the castle, we can't rest
because we have to fight to be in the castle.
If that, if that makes sense to us, and so
(18:34):
we uh, we need to understand that some of the
things that we endure are catastrophic. Listen, we're going to
take a station break right now. You have been listening
to Black Thought. Everything must change to inform, to inspire,
and to impact on w O v U ninety five
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(18:56):
you're back here with Black Thought. Everything must change to inform,
to inspire, and to impact on w O v U
ninety five point ninety f M. And you know, going
back to the male or black male and female relationship,
there are some situations where in many instances, Black men
(19:18):
are are going along and thinking that everything is is
is good, it is cool. Uh, but we have some
decided differences and value systems, and we we wake up
and we find that, you know, uh, things aren't what
(19:39):
we thought was. His woman lowers the boom and let's uh,
let's we'll let uh let us know the woman that
something is drastically wrong and we we should have known it. Additionally, Uh,
it's an abstract attitude about many things in his intimate relationship.
He is charged with having poor impulse control. You know.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I I.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Wrestle with this. I wrestle with this because I think
many Western values more rays and morales okay, have been
imposed upon us that that should not be in place. Right.
(20:41):
I think when doctor Bearisha Day was here with us,
she shared with us the fact that thirty men okay,
on the face of the earth could impregnate every woman.
It only would take thirty men.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Biblically, looking back at biblical history, uh, polistic relationships were
permitted m hm. David at civil.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Wives okay, yes.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Samson okay, Uh, Solomon, you know, yes, et cetera okay, yes, okay.
And so have we socialized ourselves into a situation and
(21:46):
made it law, so to speak. Okay, whereas we are
living in in a fairy tale that's almost impossible, all right,
for the male to keep because of some natural tendencies.
(22:10):
And when we look at other animal groups, and we
must remember folk although the constitution of the Ohios the
US Supreme Court, since we're three human we must remember
we are animals all of all. We're of the animal kingdom,
(22:32):
where we're a performed animals, all right, okay, uh, And
we're mammals and not reptilian. And that in that many
of the animals have multiple mates, horses, elephants, oxens, you know, sheep, goats, no,
(23:00):
et cetera. And so in that. And then biblically, we
do have the again the evidence in the Old Testament,
and to this date, reading the Vulgate, reading the Jews
Jerusalem Bible, reading the Bishop's Bible, reading the Geneva Bible,
(23:21):
reading reading the Ethiopian Bible. Nowhere in the Old Testament
do I see where God has disallowed? All right, now
we can we confuse fornication and adultery with some some
things in terms of and I. And in the Old Testament, you.
(23:44):
You don't find the terms fortification. It's only in the
New Testament. And I think that becomes a Western thought
pattern that has been added.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
To yes, to further people, Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, of what may not be of sin, but something
that someone else cannot carry out successfully. And so they
again they use a law, a legal law, a legal term,
if you will, even a religious term, to overturn or
circumvent natural law. Okay, we've talked about natural law on
(24:21):
several occasions, and so we when we look at how
things have been manipulated by a certain people to undergird
their shortcomings or their inabilities. All right, maybe I can't
(24:44):
get but one. So I, because I'm in charge, I
take and change the narrative saying everybody can only have one.
If I'm making making sense, okay, And so when we
look at those things, but uh so, then the value
(25:04):
systems out of nature and natural law can can have
some bearing on the differences between people that are not
necessarily legitimate.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
All right, cause you strip somebody down and you put
him in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And natural law, yes, yes, okay, Ah, then we go
back my my grandfather maybe only had five options. I
(25:54):
may have had I may have ten, but Nathaniel is
going to have right twenty Okay, options, Okay if I'm
making yes, okay, making sense, And that's.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
How it should be.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Generation after generation should be able to receive more and
more opportunities.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Not necessarily, I think. I think each generation has the
responsibility to build on what the last generation left. Right,
But yeah, okay, all right, and it doesn't necessarily have
to multiply, but it can become stronger and better without
having to become necessarily more.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
All right, Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay, I'm looking at the house house that we we
we used to live in, okay, uh with with the
windows open in the summer time and the accordion screens
in ah way, we didn't need air conditioning necessarily. We
(26:59):
open the door, all the doors, we open all the windows.
All right, Now I live in we have central air.
And is it necessarily better?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No? Because I'm not I'm cooped in because it got
all the windows closed.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You have no natural air flow.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You're right, yeah, right, all the doors closed. Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Every time you spray something, it stays circulating in the air. Yes,
every time you light one of them fancy candles that
it is not wax or sway or some type of
bees wax based and it has chemicals in it. Again,
you are inhaling those fears absolute and all of those
things are continuing to circle. If you have a gas
stove and you're not opening the kitchen window when you cook,
(27:45):
all that gas again, it's circulating through.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yes, because all the gas does not burn off okay, yes, okay,
And even the fumes from the gas that's burning all right,
it's leaving some residue in the air.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And we don't understand these things, and we can't understand
why we get cancer. We have this ailment, that ailment
and whatnot and so forth. But we're modern and up
to date, okay, but we don't know what the long
term repercussions are.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Even fast passion.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You buy something enough machine for five dollars, not realizing
how much chemically processed that fabric is.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
The polyester over against wool or cotton, you know, silk, okay,
the natural fibers, And so we we we we we
don't understand the impact of what of being what being
modern really means.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't want to be modern anymore. I want to
go back to jarring like great Grandma, I want.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
To a.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Lot of things. Yeah, I'm sick of it. I'm over
being a millennial in this.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
World.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I'm going back to Grandma waves.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Some of it I think is good. Okay, some of
it is good. And then but then again, horse and buggets,
we didn't have the air pollution that you have.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Now, correct may it took a lot longer.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And that's the things people are not going to relinquish,
the convenience that we now have to go back to
these old ways, and even the convenience that we do
have that like example, zero energy usage throughout solar power.
It cost a lot for installation and it's so much better,
But how many people could actually afford those panels?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
But again and again, if the community came together and
did it a block out of time, block.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Out of time, right, we could do it for each other.
And that's the point of the super path.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But but on the other hand, the solar panels do
not operate by themselves. They have batteries, and one of
the fumes coming off the batteries contributing to global warming.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
About yes, okay, uh that the uh fosse of the
evs electric vehicles the same thing. Uh yes, you know
the electrical cars now and they charge, but the batteries
in the in the in the cars give off. You
(30:21):
have larger batteries now rather than the combustion engine, but
you have larger batteries in those batteries discharge uh a
waste into the you know.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And then with us cutting down the trees, all right, right,
you have and that's that's part of the again, the
natural process. What the trees do they give us out.
They breathe in the carbon dioxide and they breathe out
oxygen as a waste. We breathe in oxygen, all right,
(30:56):
and breathe out carbon dioxide. Now we're we're decreasing the
amount of vegetation that we have and increasing the population.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Foolish.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
And then we wonder, it's just like how we are
now having this tree canopy conversation here in Cleveland because
it's so hot on some days, because we have a
pavement a lot of places throughout the city because we
didn't cut down so many awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Trees, trees, and even in areas that don't have grass,
the parking lots where you're gotting rid of the grass,
the streets where you've gotten rid of the grass, or
sidewalks where you've gotten rid of the grass, or again
buildings where there's no grass, all right, even properties that
have no vegetation on it whatsoever. The Amazon force is
(31:43):
being cut down for exotic woods. Same thing mahogany out
of Africa, et cetera. And so as you decrease the vegetation,
you're increasing the population. Now, the other populations, the colored
population of the it's increasing. Twenty three December thirty first
(32:06):
twenty three, we reached eight million people, all right, eight
billion people over and against we're seven point eight, you know,
and we're now at eight billion people all right, But
yet the vegetation is decreasing. I know there. I know
(32:27):
there might be others. I'm almost certain the others. But
the chestnut tree, all right, chestnut trees are extinct. I
think the elm tree because of the Dutch elm disease,
all right, the elm trees are going to become extinct,
and so we have to be careful in terms of
(32:49):
how we use our environment.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm not laughing at that specific disease. For clarity, I'm laughing.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
When you said elm disease, I thought I thought about
little els living in trees, trees with diseases.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's giving the trees diseases.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I possibility, the diseases that we may breathe all into
the air may be impacting the other vegetation.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yes, because we are ingesting things that are literally changing
our DNA, our body, makeup, instructure, not realizing.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Or using materials like plastics. Right. No, less than two
percent of the housing in America is permanent. A brick
house is not permanent. A brick building is not permanent.
A woden house is not permanent. Only a house that's
made out of natural stone is considered to be a
permanent dwelling place. So your domosile is not made out
(33:45):
of natural stone, then your your domosael is not permanent. Listen,
We're going to come back here after this station break.
You have been listening to w o v U ninety
five point nine f n the Black Thought Everything must
change will be right back people, You're back here with
Black Fault Everything must Change on w o v U
(34:05):
ninety five point nine film again, this is the Rabbi
along with the Black Unicorn and our Summer intern and Nathaniel.
Nathaniel listen, uh Uh, what's what's what's your vision for
for for your your your future.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Mmmm.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Now that's a that's a pretty hard hard theme to say,
because I've been having recent thoughts thinking thinking, why not
just go to the army because pretty much simpler, and
I actually like like to go good army. But then
I started getting to different things like drama, like drama
(34:44):
and stuff, so I thought, why not just do both?
Start off the army for for for a little bit,
build up, and then go to the film the filming
and industry, because I know that I'm good with it
a little bit, but then at the same time I'm not,
(35:05):
so I think I can at least get better at it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Okay, Well, you get good by practicing, and I think
at your age you may not have practice enough to
become a master, but you're in the right going in
the right direction.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
You can also, you know, go into the military. I
would prefer the Air Force because it gives you more
of an opportunity to develop a trade and uh. And
then you have you can come out and you have
you know, your GI bill for college all right, which
will help you pay for your college tuition. Uh, and
(35:43):
which is something I think maybe next week, we want
to talk about our young people do not understand I
don't want to get away from you. Our young people
do not understand that it's it's more lucrative if you will,
in the business sense, to increase bottom line, to have
(36:03):
you incarcerated than educated. Yes, absolutely, just hypothetically. It costs
you twenty thousand dollars a year to college educate you.
It costs forty thousand dollars to incarcerate a year to
incarcerate you. So, as a businessman, what would I rather do.
Whether I'd rather have a business where I make twenty
(36:25):
thousand dollars a year or a business I make forty
thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I say go with the forty thousand.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, okay, So then I manipulate the system right to
undereducate you so that you won't have the tools necessary
all right to become a productive member of society. You're
almost forced to become a criminal because I'd rather have
(36:54):
you as a product in the criminal justice system at
forty thousand dollars. Let's say, yeah, not only that I
get to work you at a cheap or reduce rate.
In terms of license plates in the state of Ohio
made where lacey plates on the car?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Are you even own to dry?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
He don't know, all right, license plates are made in
the penitentiary. Oh where you get maybe maybe maybe that
I think you get something like thirty thirty five cents
a day while you incarcerated.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Something along that.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Those lots.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
If you have a if you're a part of the
work program.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yes, okay, and then you have uh you have uh uh.
Some penlitentiaries have their own farms where they raised their
own food here in Ohio. Okay, graft them for instance,
all right, they have their own own farm, and the
inmates operate the farms. So the food that they're fed,
(38:01):
all right, to some degree is free uh to the
state because the state does not have to pay for
the food because the food is being raised on the
farm and the inmates are during the farming.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yes, so basically they're they're just working to get the
food that they need.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, yes, but the state is also coming out on
top because that's money they don't have to spend for labor.
If I'm making sense, Okay, I'll give you another another example.
You said you you kind of like sports pro football
(38:41):
teams deal uniforms. What what what happens to them?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Mmmm?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Well they get dirty. They sometimes get ripped too, So
that's going to be a lot to spend to replace them.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, but the old uniforms, that intact what happen into
those old uniforms the only equipment I.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Think they get like mmm, put away, destroyed or trashed.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
No, they give them to the penitentiaries, all right, because
they have sports football teams in the penitentiaries. So your
pro teams, Hello, these these lucrative contracts they're getting, they
can at any minute they can do away with pro football,
(39:32):
pro baseball, you know, and and go to having the
inmates playing the games. And guess what those the the
the costs, all right, they have a football team now
is savings. It cost them about ten percent of what
(39:57):
it costs now or less and they can now entertain
people with with games played between the inmates rather than
paying Uh, what's the what's the quarterback for the Browns?
Watching Deshaun Watson? You know? A quarter of a billion
(40:19):
dollars for maybe if he makes the playoffs, twenty games
m less than six months of the year, alright, he
will make a quarter of a billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
H I I kind of think he'll be out there
doing it.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
That's that's the the the point is. The point is
as a businessman, that does not make sense. M And
if I can cut the costs by doing the way
with a Deshaun Watson, uh, what's what's what's the dec
defensive tackle he signed? All right for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I'm busy thinking about black stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I think, okay sports, instead of paying him a hundred
one hundred million, Okay, look at the money I would
save by getting rid of these guys. And I can
still have some quality players in the quality game and
with the inmates because they are working out, they're doing
some of the same things that the pro pro athletes
(41:27):
are doing.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
They are decyantizing people for a reason.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Absolutely different reason, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
But to bring if they could bring back the coliseum
right here in America.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
There, Oh, they have done it. It's called pro football,
basketball and baseball, hockey. Yes, it's okay boxing and the
and the karate tournaments. It's twenty first century coliseum. The gladiators,
you know, are are competing all right because you and
(41:58):
I can't get out there and do that us stuff,
you know, without some training. And you know, I know,
I can't even with training unless they have the seniors game,
you know, and we and we do it in the wheelchairs,
you know. Okay, But again, going back to to where
we were, we must understand the nature of the game. Oh,
(42:26):
my friend here from Cleveland, he has his second book out.
We're going to have him back on the show.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
They're playing chess, we're playing checkers. Okay. We we have
to take and forget about Beyonce p didd He not
in the sense that we're not aware of what's happening
to him in the miscarriage of justice. I'm wondering what
(43:01):
he did to upset somebody to have them all of
a sudden turn on him, and the revelation that's coming out.
I believe they had this information many years before now,
but that he turned, he has been protected, and he's
he's termed on somebody, and the protect the arms of
protection have been removed from around him. Well, these are
(43:27):
just kind of some of the things we have to understand, uh,
in terms of how the game is being played, how
they play it, who they play it with, and we. Uh.
One of the things I think I want to leave
with you. I was reading the uh, the introduction to
(43:47):
doctor Franklin Robert Franklin's book Crisis in the Village.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
While you look for that, Rabbi, I will also La
Daniel likes to employ you to think about going to
school first, cause even if you do decided to go
into the military, at least you'll go in officer and
make more money off rep. You'll still receive a GI
bill acluse you want to receive your master's and doctorate.
If you are interested in film photography, they have moss
(44:13):
in the military for all of that.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
There are people like who you think is is filming
on the field. Basti here. I just wanted to put
that out there for you to think about it as well.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Robert Franklin talks about how he was looking for someone
to come up with an excellent book or on black life,
if you will, and he said, as he looked, he
he kept looking. He was finding some excellent books, but
(44:48):
he found that there was something different needed. And this
is what he says. Then, while waiting and searching, I
heard Marion Wright deliver a speech in which she quoted
Mahatna Gandhi's bracing words, we must be the change we
(45:08):
seek and not along. There after, I heard Jim Wallace
the Sojournal magazine and Call to Renew quote the Young
African American organizer Lisa Sullivan, who used to say, we
are the ones we've been waiting for, and so we
(45:29):
must understand that we are the change that we've been
looking for. We are the leaders that we've been waiting on,
and begin to accept those responsibilities. First of all, I believe,
I believe in the depths of me. One of the
(45:50):
steps again is to end maass agree on who we
are real identity I like to turn. I am of
African origin. Uh. Not only that, but being to agree
in what direction we should be going in. I don't
(46:16):
have to like it, but agree upon it. Okay, I
don't like what my wife fakes for dinner some days,
but I know that her expression and her need, you know,
and taste have to be satisfied, and so I take
and eat what she prepares. Though I don't like it,
(46:40):
I agree all right with having dinner in that way, right,
And and that's that's that's the kinds of some simple
things that we we we can do, uh, and we
can begin to move in the right direction. Then. Secondly,
I believe that as we move forward, we have to
(47:04):
take our young people, buy the hand and bring them
with us. I'd love to take and bring you into
our superpack, all right, and other young people your age.
We have a division for young people. I have a
young man I think he's fourteen, and another ten. Okay,
(47:26):
that we want you to learn the process, the dudes
and the don'ts, the negatives and the positives of it,
all right, to learn how to vote, use to develop
(47:48):
functional political power, develop functional political power, to vote, to
use our vote black vote as uh not I've been
since I was twenty one. I've been a Democrat. But
(48:09):
I vote according to who is going to help my community,
right and so uh other ethnicities vote their ethnicity and
not their party. And to learn not to be dependent
(48:31):
on a party. Okay. Dependency breeds loyalty, ah, and loyalty
is demanded whether it's right or wrong. So when you
have a functional political power and you're not voting by party,
you're voting by ethnicity, then you you don't have that
(48:56):
kind of that kind I say that again, that kind
of dependency. When you vote ethnicity, you do have a
dependency and kind of loyal to the to the ethnicity,
but it takes on a different form than voting for
the party. All right, right or wrong? Okay? If I'm
making sense? All right, and so you they what what
(49:20):
do you? What do your your party words for the
days show?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
If you want to grow, get uncomfortable?
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Okay, growth is uncomfortable. Okay, what would you what would
your party? What would your party thoughts be? To people
of your your generation?
Speaker 4 (49:38):
Mmm, let's say, if you want to go something, just
strive for it. Just take this, Just take the shot.
Doesn't really matter what happens. You'll just grow grow over it.
You you get strong drug from it.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Okay, all right, all right, people listen, this is a rap.
I am here on dump your old vu again. I'm
going to say I will drink from our part of
the river and no one shall keep me from it.
And so until the next time. This is the Rabbi
along with Nathaniel and with the black Unicorn saying Shalom
(50:14):
al baha. You have been listening to black thought. Everything
must change. On WOVU ninety five point nine FM. Shalom.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
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