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All right, strap in everyone because today we are going deep on crypto scams.
- Ooh, exciting. - You guys requested it.
So you already know that crypto is full of opportunities.
- Uh-huh. - But it's also crumbling with pitfalls.
- It really is. - And to really get a handle on this,
we've gathered a truly global collection of research for you guys.
- Awesome. - Articles, academic papers.
We even watched some Italian and English YouTube videos.
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- Wow, covering all the bases. - So all of that to figure out how these scams actually work
and how we can avoid them. - That's right. You know, it's interesting though.
- It's that. - It's not always just about losing your money.
- Okay. - A lot of these scams really tap into some basic human emotions.
- Interesting. - Our desires.
- So let's start by getting the lay of the land. - Okay.
- What are some of the most common types of crypto scams out there?
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- All right, well, fishing is a big one. - Of course, fishing.
- But it's not unique to crypto, though. - Right.
- It's all about creating fake websites. - Right.
- Or emails that look just like the legitimate platforms.
- Uh-oh. - But I think in the crypto world,
the sticks are even higher. - I think so too.
- Because you're dealing with things like private keys. - Oh, yeah.
- Essentially the password to your digital assets.
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- Yeah, and the Caspersky blog actually had this chilling example
- Really? - About a fake, electric wallet
- Uh-oh. - That would infect computers with malware.
- Oh, wow. - It just makes you realize how easy it is to fall victim.
- If you're not careful. - If you're not super, super careful.
- Exactly. - So that's why using regular platform.
- Yes. - Double checking those URLs.
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- Always, always. - It's crucial.
- Absolutely. But fishing is just the beginning.
- Oh no. - I mean, we also have the classic Ponzi and Pyramid schemes.
- Right. - Which have just found a new home in the crypto market.
- Oh, they love it there. - They do.
- The YouTube channel Crypto360 had a really good breakdown
of how these schemes usually work in the crypto world.
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- Yeah. - And they often promise like incredibly high returns.
- I bet. - Guarantee.
- Something crazy like, woof that daily. - Oh, wow.
- But the reality is there's no real underlying investment.
- Right. - No business model.
- It's all about recruiting new investors to pay off the old ones.
And then when the supply of those new investors dries up.
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- Yeah, what happens? - It all collapses.
- Just the whole thing falls apart. - Like a house of cards.
- Exactly. - And we've seen this ambit over and over here.
- Connect is like the notorious example of this.
- Yes, it is. - And it's important to remember
that these schemes can target anyone.
- It doesn't matter. - Doesn't matter how much money you have.
- Nope. - How sophisticated you are.
- Anyone can be a victim. - You can be a victim.
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- Yes. - Now that big connect scam.
- Yeah. - It is such a fascinating case study.
- It really is. - I mean, they even had their own coin BCC.
- Oh, yeah. - Which was trading on major exchanges.
- Wow. - So how did they manage to fool so many people?
- I think part of it was just the audacity of their claims.
- Okay. - The promises they made were astronomical.
- Yeah. - And they really cultivated like a cult like following.
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- Like a group of true believers. - Absolutely.
- You know that reminds me of something
that Stafford Bonn mentioned in his thesis.
- What's that? - About cryptocurrency fraud.
- Okay. - He argued that these scammers are really good
at exploiting the hype. - The hype.
- And the excitement. - Uh-huh.
- Surrounding new technologies. - Yeah.
Especially in those early stages.
- Yeah. - There's just a lot of uncertainty.
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- It really knows how it works yet. - Exactly.
- But they just hear that it could be the next big thing. - That's right.
- So how do investors protect themselves from that hype?
- You have to be skeptical. - Be skeptical.
- You can't just take things at face value. - Right.
- You have to do your research, ask questions,
and really challenge assumptions. - So dig a little deeper.
- Exactly. - Okay, so that sounds like good life advice.
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- Yeah. - But how does that apply to the crypto world specifically?
- Well, I'd start with the project's website,
- (laughs) - on your white paper. - All right.
- A legitimate project is gonna have a clear explanation
of their technology, their team, their goals, their roadmap.
- But scammers can create fake websites in white papers, right?
- Oh, of course they can. - Okay.
- That's why you gotta look beyond the surface.
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- All right. - You have to do some independent research.
- Okay, so where do you go for that?
- Well, there are some rules like,
- Bunchan explorers. - What are those?
- They can be used to verify transactions.
- Oh, interesting. - Check the team's credentials on LinkedIn.
- Right. - And you can also look
for independent reviews and analyses from reputable sources.
- So blockchain explorers linked in independent reviews.
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Those are all good actions listeners can take.
- Yes. - But what about, like, say, the language used?
- Oh, yeah. - In the white paper or on the website?
- Absolutely. - Anything there that could be like a red flag.
- If it's full of hype and jargon and unrealistic promises,
- Uh-huh. - That's a red flag. - Gotcha.
- Legitimate projects? - Yeah.
- Okay, clearly, transparently. - Mm-hmm.
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- They don't have to resort to all of that.
- Okay, so we've talked about phishing and Ponzi schemes.
- Yes. - What other scams should investors be aware of?
- Fake eye-cows? - Fake eye-cows?
- Yes, or initial coin offerings. - Right.
- They're essentially fundraising events. - Okay.
- Where startups sell tokens to raise capital.
- Okay. - But scammers, they have figured out--
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- Oh, I bet they have. - How to exploit this
by creating fake projects with no real technology or a team behind them?
- So they're just pocketing all the money? - Exactly.
- The repair case that was mentioned in BOM's thesis is a perfect example.
- Yep. - They raise millions. - And then poof.
- It makes you wonder, how can investors distinguish between
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a legitimate eye-cow and a scant? - Through a research.
- Through a research. What does that look like?
- Look for a strong team with a proven track record.
- Right. - And a clear use case for their technology.
- Okay. - And a realistic road map for development.
- So are IQs just inherently risky then?
- They can be high risk. - Okay.
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- But also high reward. - Gotcha.
- You know, it's important to remember that you're essentially betting on a startup.
- Uh-huh. - Very early stages.
- Yeah. - And there's always a possibility of failure.
- Even if it's legitimate. - Yes. Even if it's legitimate.
- That makes sense. - Yeah.
- So what other scams are lurking out there in the crypto shadows?
- Well, another really common one is the pump and dump scheme.
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- The pump and dump. It might seem like a new phenomenon in crypto.
- Yeah. - But it's actually a very old trick.
- It is. It's been around for a while.
- The research that we have called crypto counterfeiting actually pointed out
that this type of market manipulation has been around for centuries.
- Series. - Dates back to the 1700.
- Oh, wow.
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- The digital version of snake oil. - Exactly.
- How does it work? - They artificially inflate the price of a cryptocurrency
through coordinated buying. - Okay.
- And a lot of misleading information. - So creating a frenzy.
- Yes, of excitement and fomo.
- So once the price is pumped up, then what happens?
- The scammer's, "mump their holdings, leaving everyone else holding the bag."
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- Holding the bag. - That's right.
- And then there are those scams that prey on our desire for passive income.
- Oh, yeah. - Like cloud mining scams.
- Cloud mining, it can be a legitimate way to earn cryptocurrency.
But there are a lot of scams.
- Okay. - These scams typically promise high returns with little to no effort.
- Oh, effortless passive income. - Exactly.
- What could go wrong? - Right.
- Well, the proton article mentioned that some of these scams actually pressure people
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into depositing money directly into the developer's wallets.
- Oh, wow. - So if you're considering cloud mining,
do your research thoroughly. - For a little reason.
- Make sure the company's reputable.
- Mm-hmm. - And be wary of promises that sound too good to be true.
- If it sounds too good to be true. - It probably is.
- It probably is. - It's like a constant game of cat and mouse.
- Yes, it is. - As soon as investors learn about one scam,
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- Yeah. - Another one pops up.
- Another one is born. - So what do we do?
- You have to stay informed and you have to cultivate a healthy skepticism.
- Healthy skepticism? - Yes.
- Again, great life advice. - It is.
- But in the crypto world, the stakes are a lot higher.
- Much higher. - So we are going to spend
the rest of this deep dive, equipping you guys
- Yes. - with all of the tools and knowledge you need
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- Absolutely. - to navigate this crazy world.
- This complex world. - Yes.
- This often treacherous landscape. - Oh, I like that.
- Yeah. - All right, let's take a quick break.
- We'll be right back. - Sounds good.
All right, so we've talked about some of the most common types of crypto
- scams out there. - Yep.
- But what about the tactics? - The tactics.
- How do they actually, like, lure people in?
- Well, it's interesting. A lot of these scams,
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they rely on psychological manipulation.
- Oh, okay. - It's not just about tricking you.
It's about tapping into your emotions.
- So it's about understanding human psychology.
- Absolutely. One of the most powerful emotions that scammers exploit is fear.
- Fear, okay. - They might try to scare you
into thinking your account's been hacked.
- Oh, no. - Or that you're going to miss out
- on, like, a once in a lifetime opportunity? - Pthomo.
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- Exactly. - The YouTube video from young platform
- Uh-huh. - Had a great example of this.
- Oh, yeah. - They mentioned how no legitimate exchange
will ever call you on the phone.
- Right. - To ask you to move your money out of your account.
- Exactly. That's a huge red flag.
- Yeah, it's like a big ol' scam alert. - Absolutely.
- So if someone is pressuring you to act quickly,
- Mm-hmm. - That is a major red flag.
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- Always, always. - Legitimate investment opportunities
don't disappear overnight. - They don't.
- It's like those late-night info-hersials call now operators are standing by.
- Exactly. - They're trying to pressure you
- into making a decision. - Before you've had time to think.
- Right, right. - And that pressure often goes hand in hand
- with a lack of transparency. - Okay, interesting.
- Think back to the Quadrigax case. - Yeah.
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Gerald Cotton was basically running that whole exchange by himself.
- Right, no oversight. - No accountability.
- And that lack of transparency ultimately led to disaster.
- It did, and it's a stark reminder that
- Yeah. - They need to be wary of projects
- that operate in the shadows. - Speaking of Quadrigax.
- Yes. - There's something we should probably clarify.
- For our listeners. - What's that?
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We've mentioned the term cold wallets a few times.
- But we haven't really explained what they are. - Oh, good point.
- So can you break that down for us? - So essentially,
a cold wallet is a type of cryptocurrency wallet
that is not connected to the internet.
- Okay. - It's considered one of the most secure ways
to store your crypto because it's offline.
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- So it's less vulnerable to hacking? - Yeah, exactly.
- So in the Quadrigax case,
- Yeah. - Cotton held the only keys to these cold wallets.
- That's right. - And when he died?
- The funds were basically inaccessible.
- Wow. It's a cautionary tale. - It is.
- About the importance of choosing exchanges
- Yes. - that have transparent security measures.
- And multiple layers of redundancy.
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- Redundancy, good word. - Right.
- Okay, so we've talked about fear and transparency.
But I think it's fair to say that greed plays a role in these scams as well.
- Absolutely. Scammers pray on our desire to get rich quick.
- I mean, don't we all want to get rich quick?
- Do, and they know that they're very good at crafting narratives
that appeal to our deepest desires.
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- It's like the lottery. - Exactly.
- We all know the odds of winning are astronomically low.
- We do. - But we still buy those tickets.
- We dream of hitting the jackpot.
- We dream of hitting that jackpot. - That's right.
- And in the crypto world,
I feel like those dreams are amplified.
- I think so too. - Because you hear all these stories.
- You hear all these stories of people who have made fortunes overnight.
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- Yes, you do.
- But are those stories really the exception not the role?
- I think so.
- So how can we cultivate a healthy skepticism?
- Good question.
- Without becoming jaded or cynical.
- Yeah, how can we approach the space with both enthusiasm and caution?
- Right, right.
- Well, I think it starts with education.
- Education, okay.
- The more you understand about how these scams work,
the better equipped you'll be to spot them and avoid them.
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- But education isn't just about reading articles and watching videos, right?
- No. - It's about developing a critical mindset.
- Critical mindset and learning to ask the right questions.
- Exactly. - Okay, so let's say you've done your research.
- Okay. - And you're considering investing
in a crypto project.
What are some red flags that should give you pause?
- One of the biggest red flags is anonymous developers.
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- Anonymous developers.
- If you can't find information about the team behind the project
or their credentials, seem suspect.
- Okay. - It's best to steer clear.
- The BitPanda Academy and Cryptomat articles both really emphasize that point.
- Absolutely. - Okay, so anonymous developers are a big no-no.
- Big no-no. - What else?
- Another red flag is pressure to act quickly.
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- Okay, we talked about that.
- Yeah, scammers often use limited time offers.
- Right, don't miss out. - Exactly.
They'll say things like, "This is a once in a lifetime opportunity."
- Yeah. - But remember, legitimate investment opportunities
don't disappear overnight. - Right, they don't take their time.
- Take your time on research. - And don't let anyone rush you.
- Okay, so we got anonymous developers. - Mm-hmm.
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- We got pressure tactics. - Yeah.
- Any other warning signs we should look out for?
- Well, one thing is poor communication.
- Poor communication, what does that look like?
- If the project's website, their white paper,
or their social media posts,
are full of grammatical errors.
- Okay. - Tipos and inconsistencies?
- That's a red flag. - It's a big red flag.
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- The proton article also made that point.
- They did. They said that poorly written communications
could be a sign that the project isn't being run by professionals.
- Absolutely.
- So it's not just about the quality of the writing?
- No, it's about the substance of what's being said.
- Okay. - If the project's goals are vague,
or their roadmap is unrealistic,
or their technology is poorly explained, red flags all around.
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- So it's not just about avoiding scams?
- No. - It's about finding legitimate projects.
- That are worth investing in.
- Okay, so how do we do that?
- It requires a deeper level of due diligence.
- Due diligence, so what does that look like?
- It's not enough to just avoid the obvious scams.
- Okay.
- You need to be able to evaluate the potential of a project.
- Okay.
- Assess the risks involved.
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- That sounds like a lot of work.
- It can be, yeah.
- Where do you even begin?
- I always recommend starting with the team.
- The team, okay?
- Look for a team with a prusen track record in the industry.
- Okay.
- A strong technical background.
- Right.
- And a clear vision for the project.
- So it's not just about looking at their Lincoln profiles.
- No.
- It's about understanding their experience and motivation.
- Exactly.
- Okay, so once you've evaluated the team.
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- Then what?
- What's next?
- You need to look at the technology.
- Okay.
- Does the project have a unique and valuable use case?
- Mm-hmm.
- Is the technology sound, is the code open source?
- Those are all good questions.
But how can the average investor even answer those questions?
- That's a good point.
- Sounds like you need a PhD in computer science to understand this stuff.
- You don't need a PhD.
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- Okay, good.
- But you do need to be willing to put in the time and effort to learn.
- Okay, how?
- There are a lot of resources online.
- Oh, are there?
- There's a growing community of people who are really passionate
about sharing their knowledge and helping others.
- Awesome.
So it's about finding trustworthy sources of information.
- Exactly.
- Building a network of people that you can rely on.
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- Absolutely.
- Okay, so we've talked about the importance of research and due diligence.
- Yes.
- But what about the emotional side of investing?
- That's a really important aspect.
- How can we avoid making impulsive decisions based on fear or greed?
- I think it's important to acknowledge that investing is never purely rational.
- Really?
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- Our emotions inevitably play a role.
- Especially in the crypto world.
- Especially in the crypto world.
- With all the hype and volatility.
- Exactly.
- Okay, so what are your top tips for staying emotionally grounded in the crypto market?
- I think one of the most important things is to have a clear investment plan.
- Okay.
- And stick to it.
- Stick to it.
- Determine your risk tolerance.
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- Okay.
- Set realistic goals.
- Right.
- Don't invest more than you can afford to lose.
- That's good advice for any type of investing.
- Any type of investing, but it's especially important in the crypto world.
- Right, because things change so quickly.
- Very quickly.
- So it's about having a long term perspective.
- Yes.
- Not getting caught up in those short term fluctuations of the market.
- And be patient.
- Patient.
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- Okay.
- You're not going to get rich quick.
- Right.
- Building wealth takes time.
- Discipline.
- And a sound investment strategy.
- That's a good reminder for all of us.
- Yeah.
- But even with the best laid plans.
- Mm-hmm.
- It's still possible to get caught up at the hype.
- Yes.
- And make those impulsive decisions.
- It is.
We're all human.
- So what are some strategies for dealing with FOMO?
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- FOMO.
- The fear of missing out.
- The fear of missing out.
- One of the most powerful and most powerful things in the crypto world.
- Oh, it really is.
- So how do we deal with it?
- I think it's helpful to remember that there will always be another opportunity.
- Okay.
- The crypto market is constantly evolving.
- Okay.
- There will always be new projects.
- Right.
- New trends emerging.
- So you don't need to jump on every bandwagon.
- Exactly.
- Focus on your own goals.
- Right.
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- And don't compare yourself to others.
- That's hard though.
- It is hard, but it's so important.
- So it's about staying true to your own investment strategy.
- Absolutely.
- Not letting the noise of the market distract you.
- Absolutely.
- So if you do find yourself getting caught up in that FOMO, what do you do?
- Take a step back.
- Okay.
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- Breathe.
- And just remind yourself.
- Of your long-term goals.
- Of your long-term goals.
- That's great advice.
- Thank you.
- But what if you've already made an impulsive decision?
- Oh.
- And you've invested in something that turns out to be a scam.
- Uh-oh.
- What do you do?
- Well, the first thing is to accept that you've made a mistake.
- Okay.
- Make mistakes.
It's important to learn from them.
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- But that's easier said than done.
- I know.
- When you've lost money.
- It is natural to feel a lot of emotions, anger, frustration.
- You gain.
- Yeah.
- So what concrete steps can someone take if they think they've been scammed?
- The first step is to document everything.
- Document everything.
- Gather all the evidence you have, screen shots of conversations, transaction IDs, any relevant information.
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- Okay.
And then who do you report this to?
- You can report it to the cryptocurrency exchange.
- Okay.
- Or wallet provider.
- Right.
- As well as to relevant government agencies.
- Okay.
- You can also report it to online scam reporting websites.
- Okay.
- And social media platforms.
- So even if you can't recover your funds, reporting this scam can help prevent others from becoming victims.
- Exactly.
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- Okay.
That's a good reminder.
- And it's important to seek support.
- Support.
- Okay.
- Femmes and family.
- Family or even a therapist?
- Right.
This could be really traumatic.
- It can.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
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- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- It can be a lot of things.
- Government oversight and regulation.
- Regulation.
- Regulation of the crypto space.
- What would that look like?
- It could involve things like licensing requirements for exchanges,
- Okay.
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- Scripture kind-cambal rules.
- Okay.
- And just clear guidelines for ICOs.
- But some people would argue that regulation stifles innovation.
- I understand that perspective.
- Right.
- I think it's important to find a balance between innovation and consumer protection.
- Okay.
- We need to create a regulatory environment
- That fosters innovation
- Yeah.
- While also safeguarding investors from fraud and abuse.
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- That sounds like a delicate balancing act.
- It is.
- A lot of policy makers around the world are probably grappling with this.
- They are.
- They are.
- So it's about creating a crypto ecosystem
- Yes.
- That is both innovative and trustworthy.
- Exactly.
- Okay. So we've covered a lot of ground in this discussion so far.
- We have.
- But before we move on to our final case study.
- Okay.
- I want to touch on a topic that we haven't really discussed yet.
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- What's that?
- The role of community in the crypto world.
- Oh, the community. That's an important one.
- Yeah. So how can investors tap into that power?
- Well, there are a lot of online forums, social media groups, even in-person meetups
- Okay.
- where people can connect, share, and learn from each other.
- But there are also a lot of scams.
- Yeah.
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- And misinformation circulating online.
- Absolutely.
- How do you distinguish between legitimate sources of information
- Mm-hmm.
- And those that are trying to mislead you?
- You have to be discerning.
- Discerning.
- Okay.
- Don't just believe everything you read online.
- Right, right.
- Look for sources that are credible, unbiased, and transparent.
- Transparent, so it's about doing your research.
- It is.
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- Not relying on anonymous sources.
- Yes.
- Or those with a vested interest in promoting a certain project.
- Exactly.
- Okay, so be critical of the information that you're seeing.
- Be crucial.
- Yes.
- If something sounds too good to be true.
- It probably is.
- It probably is.
- That's the golden rule.
- That's the golden rule for life.
- So finding a balance between being open to new ideas, but also being skeptical of claims
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that seem too good to be true.
- Yes, it's a delicate balance.
- Okay, so we talked about community.
- Yeah.
- But let's not forget about the individual investor's responsibility.
- Absolutely.
- To protect themselves.
- To protect themselves.
- What are some practical tips for staying safe?
- Strong, unique passwords?
- Okay.
- Two-factor authentication.
- Two-factor, that's good advice for just online security in general.
- In general.
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- But in the crypto world.
- Yes.
- And then you can get a lot higher.
- Much higher.
- Because you're dealing with real money.
- Real money.
- Right, so strong password.
- Uh-huh.
- Two-factor authentication.
- What else?
- Protecting your devices.
- Protecting your devices, okay?
- Make sure your computer and your phone have up to date, antivirus software.
- Okay.
- Be wary of clicking on links.
- Yeah, don't do that.
- Or downloading files from unknown sources.
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- So it's all about practicing good cyber hygiene.
- Good cyber hygiene.
- Okay, what about storing your crypto?
- Ah, that's a big one.
- Where should people be storing their crypto?
- So if you're holding large amounts of crypto,
it's generally not advisable to store it on an exchange.
- Because exchanges can be hacked?
- That's right, there's always that risk.
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- Of losing your funds.
- Exactly.
- Okay, so where should you store it?
- A hardware wallet.
- A hardware wallet.
- We mentioned that if you do time.
- Uh-huh.
- But what exactly is it?
- So it's a physical device that stores your private keys off-flat.
- Just like Fort Knox for your crypto.
- Exactly.
- If you're serious about investing in cryptocurrency,
get a hardware wallet.
- Absolutely.
- So why is investment?
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- Why is investment, yes.
- Okay, so we've got strong passwords,
- Uh-huh.
- Device security, hardware wallets.
- Yes, what else?
- But what about the human element?
- The human element, that's a tricky one.
- How can we protect ourselves from our own biases
and our emotional impulses?
- Well, I think one of the most important things is
to be aware of the psychological tactics that scammers use.
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- Okay, let's break that down.
- Okay.
- What are some common tactics that they use to manipulate our emotions?
- Creating a sense of urgency or scarcity.
- Okay.
- Or scarcity, right?
- They might say things like, this is a limited time offer.
- Right.
- Or only a few spots left.
- Pressure you into making a decision.
- Yes, before you've had time to think it through.
- So they're playing on our emotions?
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- Exactly.
- And another tactic they use is social proof?
- Social proof, yes.
- What's that?
- They might create fake testimonials.
- Oh, interesting.
- Or use bots to make it seem like everyone is investing in their project?
- So they're trying to create a herd mentality?
- Exactly.
- Where people feel like they need to jump on the bandwagon.
- Before it's too late.
- Right.
- And they often use authority figures.
- Okay.
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- Or celebrity endorsements.
- Celebrity endorsements.
- To endure with their projects.
- Even if those endorsements are fake.
- Even if they're fake.
- So it's about being aware of these tactics.
- Yes.
- And not letting our emotions cloud our judgment.
- Don't let your emotions take over.
- So even if your favorite influencer is promoting a particular coin.
- Yeah.
- You still need to do your own due diligence.
- Absolutely.
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- And if something sounds too good to be true.
- It probably is.
- It probably is.
- That's a good rule of thumb for life in general.
- For life in general.
- Okay, so we've talked about the psychological tactics that scammers use.
- Mm-hmm.
- But I think it's important to acknowledge that some people are more vulnerable to these scams.
- Absolutely.
And I think it's important to be compassionate and understanding towards those who have fallen victim.
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- Absolutely.
- It's easy to judge, but we have to remember anyone can be fooled.
- Right, especially if they're targeted by these skilled manipulators.
- Oh yeah, these scammers are professionals.
- Oh.
- They know what they're doing.
- They do.
- They know how to exploit people's vulnerabilities.
- And they're constantly refining their tactics.
- Constantly.
- So it's not about blaming the victim.
- No.
- It's about understanding the factors that make people susceptible.
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- To these scams.
- And one of those factors is financial insecurity.
- Oh, absolutely.
- Right, if someone is struggling financially.
- They might be more likely to take risks.
- They might.
- Hoping to improve their situation.
- Right, scammers often target people who are desperate for a financial breakthrough.
- Okay.
- They might promise unrealistic returns.
- Yeah.
- Or offer these investment opportunities that seem impossible to pass up.
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- So be aware of your own vulnerabilities.
- Yes.
- Be extra cautious.
- Especially when you're feeling financially stressed.
- Okay. And if you're considering making a major investment.
- Yeah.
- Maybe reach out to a financial advisor.
- A trusted friend.
- A friend or family member.
- Family member.
- Okay, so we've talked about due diligence, emotional awareness, community support.
- Yeah.
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- But I think it's also important to acknowledge that the crypto world is constantly evolving.
- It is.
- New scams are emerging.
- All the time.
- All the time.
- It could be hard to keep up.
- So how do you stay ahead of the curve?
- It's crucial to have a growth mindset.
- A growth mindset.
- Be willing to adapt.
- To the changing landscape.
- To the changing landscape.
- And to be open enough to just learn the basics.
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You need to stay informed about the latest trends.
- Right.
- Developments in the crypto world.
- So how do you do that?
- Read industry news.
- Okay.
- Follow reputable sources on social media.
- Okay.
- A 10 conferences webinars.
- So it's about making crypto education an ongoing process.
- An ongoing process.
- So be proactive.
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- Be proactive.
- Be patient.
- Wait for the scams to happen to you.
- That's right.
- Take steps to protect yourself.
Now.
- Now.
- Okay.
We've talked a lot about the risks and challenges of investing in cryptocurrency.
- Yeah.
- But I think it's important to end on a positive note.
- A positive note.
- So despite the scams, the volatility, there's still a lot of potential.
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- There is.
- There is.
- In this space.
- So it's about finding that balance between being aware of the risks, but also being excited about the possibility.
- That's it.
That's the key.
- Okay.
And how do we find that balance?
- Education.
- Awareness.
- And awareness.
- And a commitment to ethical behavior.
- From all participants in the space.
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- All participants.
- Okay.
Well said.
- Thank you.
- So we've covered a lot of ground in this deep dive.
- We have.
- But before we wrap things up, I want to take a look at one more case study that illustrates
the human cost of these scams.
- Okay.
Let's hear it.
- This one comes from the YouTube channel, Il Cryptoverso.
They did a deep dive into the infamous Mt. Gox hack.
- Oh, Mt. Gox.
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- Which is considered one of the most devastating events in crypto history.
- It was.
- For those who might not be familiar.
- Yeah.
- Mt. Gox was once the world's largest bitcoin exchange.
- The largest.
- Founded in 2010 by Jed McHale.
- Jed McHale.
- And it quickly gained popularity as the go to platform for buying and selling bitcoin.
- Back then.
- Yeah.
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- The regulatory landscape was even more wild west than it is today.
- So there were very few safeguards in place?
- Very few.
- To protect consumers.
- It was a different time.
- It was a very different time.
- And that lack of oversight ultimately proved to be Mt. Gox's downfall.
- Okay, so what happened?
- Tell me the story.
- Well, things started to unravel in 2011.
- Okay.
- When Mt. Gox suffered its first major hack.
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- Oh, no.
- They lost a relatively small amount of bitcoin at the time.
- Okay.
- But it exposed vulnerabilities in their security systems.
- And this is where the story gets really interesting.
- Oh, what happened?
- There's some evidence that suggests that the hack might have been an inside job.
- An inside job, okay.
- Some people believe that Jed McHale of himself?
- Jed McHale.
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- Might have been involved.
- Wow.
- And remember, this is before he went on to found Ripple.
- Right.
- It's a crazy twist.
- So what happened after that first hack?
- Yeah, did they beef up your security?
- They claimed they did.
- They claimed they did.
- But the damage was already done.
- The trust was broken.
- Trust in the exchange was shaken.
- And that's fatal in the financial world.
- It is.
- The things we're about to get much, much worse in 2014.
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- Yeah.
- Mt. Gox suffered another much larger hack.
- Okay.
- And this is the one.
- This is the one that brought them down.
- That brought them down.
- Yeah.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
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- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
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- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then they got all the data from the market.
- And then suddenly you see that same car everywhere.
- Yeah.
- You were still consciously filtering it out before.
- Yeah.
- But now your brain is primed to notice it.
- Exactly.
- It's the same with those crypto scams.
- It is.
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- If you're convinced that you're going to get rich quick,
- Yeah.
- You're more likely to fall for a scam
that just reinforces that belief.
- Absolutely.
- Okay.
- What about the availability bias?
- Availability bias.
- That's the one where we overestimate
the likelihood of events
that are easily recalled.
- That's right. So if someone has recently heard about a friend
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who made a fortune in crypto,
they might be more likely to believe that they can do the same.
- Right. Right.
- Even though the odds are stacked against them.
- Even though statistically it's probably not going to happen.
- It's probably not going to happen.
- It's probably not going to happen.
- It's like those lottery commercials
that show people celebrating their big wins.
- Exactly.
- They make it seem like winning is easy and common.
- Right.
- But in reality it's incredibly rare.
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- Incredibly rare.
- Don't forget about the framing effect.
- The framing effect.
- That's where the way information is presented.
- Yes.
- Can influence our decisions.
- Even if the underlying facts are the same.
- So a scammer might frame a really risky investment opportunity.
- Right.
- As a sure thing.
- Right.
- Once in a lifetime chance to get rich.
- Absolutely.
- Making it seem less risky than it actually is.
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- Exactly.
- It's like those investment gurus.
- Oh, the gurus.
- Who claim to have the secrets formula for beating the market.
- They're everywhere.
- They use all the fancy language.
- Yeah.
- The impressive charts.
- It's all smoking mirrors.
- It gets even more credible.
- Right.
- But often it's all smoking mirrors.
- It is.
- Okay, so it's important to be aware of these biases.
- Yes.
- And to make decisions based on logic and evidence.
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- That's right.
- Not emotions.
- Not emotions.
- Easier said than done sometimes, right?
- It is where emotional beings.
- We are.
- But with practice and awareness, we can train ourselves to be more objective.
- Mm-hmm.
- Less susceptible to these cognitive traps.
- So protecting yourself from crypto scams.
- Yeah.
- It's not just about learning about all the different types of scams out there.
- No.
- It's about understanding how our own minds work.
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- Exactly.
And that's what makes this topic so fascinating.
- It is fascinating.
- It's technology, it's finance, it's psychology.
- Absolutely.
And speaking of psychology.
- Yes.
- I think it's also important to talk about the role of social pressure.
- Social pressure, you?
- In these scams.
- Absolutely, especially in the crypto world.
- Yeah.
Where there's just so much hype and fomo.
- So much fomo.
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- Scammers know this.
- They do.
And they often exploit this by creating a sense of community and belonging.
- Right.
- They might create these exclusive telegram groups, discord servers, where people can connect, share, and cider information.
- But because these groups are often filled with bots.
- Yes.
- And page show.
- Page show.
- It could be really hard to distinguish between genuine enthusiasm and manufactured hype.
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- That's right, they create an echo chamber.
- An echo chamber?
- Where everyone is just reinforcing each other's beliefs.
- Yeah.
- And anyone who disagrees, they're quickly silenced.
- It's almost like a cult.
- It is.
- Where the leaders' pronouncements are accepted without question.
- Yeah.
- Scary.
- So how do we resist that allure?
- Good question.
- How do we avoid getting caught up in that hype?
- Well, one thing is to remember that there's not such thing as a sure thing in crypto.
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If someone is promising you guaranteed returns or insider information.
- It's a scam.
- It's almost certainly a scam.
- What about those multi-level marketing scams?
- Oh, MLN.
- There's so prevalent.
- There's so prevalent in the crypto world.
- They're everywhere.
- How do those work?
- Classic example of how scammers exploit social preher.
- Okay.
- Encourage people to recruit their friends and family members.
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- Right.
- Promising them commissions and rewards for building a downline.
- A downline.
- That's right.
- But the reality is most people who get involved in MLNs end up losing money.
- The only people who benefit are the ones at the top.
- Exactly.
At the top of the pyramid.
- Okay, so how can investor distinguish between a legitimate crypto project?
- Mm-hmm.
- And an MLM scam.
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- Well, one red flag is that MLMs typically focus more on recruitment than on the underlying product or service.
- So they're more interested in getting people to sign up.
- Yes.
- And pay fees.
- Pay fees.
- Then they are in actually developing a sustainable business.
- Exactly.
- Another red flag is that MLMs often use those high pressure sales tactics.
- Oh, yeah.
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- Make unrealistic promises.
- About potential earnings.
- So it's all about creating that sense of urgency and fomo.
- Exactly.
They want you to make a decision based on emotion, not logic.
- To be aware of these tactics.
- Be aware of your research.
- Always do your research.
- Before getting involved in any crypto project.
- Absolutely.
- Especially one that involves recruitment or multi-level marketing.
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- If it sounds too good to be true.
- It probably is.
- It probably is.
- And there's no shame in saying no.
- No shame at all.
- If you're not comfortable with the risks involved.
- Or you don't fully understand the business model?
- Yeah.
- It's walk away.
- Walk away.
We've covered so much today.
- So much.
- But what about the future?
- The future.
- What trends do you see emerging in the world of crypto scams?
- Oh, I think one trend we're going to see is an increase in the sophistication of these scams.
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- The scammers are getting smarter.
- Absolutely.
They're using AI, machine learning, advanced technology.
- To create more convincing scams?
- Yes.
And to target their victims more effectively?
- That's a little scary.
- It is a little bit scary.
- So it's a constant arms race?
- It is, but I think we have the advantage.
- Okay.
- We have the power of knowledge.
- That's true.
Knowledge is power.
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- The more we learn about these scams, the better equipped will be to protect ourselves.
- Okay.
What else?
- I also think we're going to see an increase in the use of social engineering.
- Social engineering.
Now what exactly is that?
- So it's a type of manipulation that relies on psychological tricks, deception,
- Right.
- To persuade people to divulge sensitive information.
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- Okay.
- So we have a lot of different social interactions that are not in their best interest.
- So it's like fishing, but instead of using fake websites or emails,
- Yeah.
- They're using human interaction.
- Exactly.
And it can be really effective.
- Okay.
- These scammers are very skilled at building rapport.
- Oh, I bet they are.
- And trust with their victims.
- They might pretend to be a friend or a colleague?
- They might--
- Even a romantic interest?
- Even a romantic interest?
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- Oh wow.
- To gain your confidence.
- And then exploit that trust.
- Exactly.
And I think we're going to see a lot more of this in the crypto world,
- Okay.
- Because it's a relatively easy way to target people.
- Okay.
- And then, you know, the new to crypto.
- Right.
- Might not be as aware of the risks.
- So be cautious about who you trust online.
- Very cautious.
- And be wary of anyone who asks you for sensitive information.
- Absolutely.
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Especially things like your private keys.
- Yeah.
Or your seed phrase.
- Seed phrase.
Never give that out.
- Never.
- And be aware of the signs.
- What are the signs?
- Pressure tactics.
- Right.
- Flattery.
Appeals to emotion.
- So use your critical thinking skills.
- Always.
- If something feels off.
- Yeah.
- Too good to be true.
- It probably is.
- It probably is.
- That's the golden rule.
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- That's the golden rule.
- We've covered a lot of ground in this deep dive.
- We have.
We've gone deep.
- The world of cryptocurrency.
- Yeah.
- Full of opportunity.
- Yes.
- But also fraught with risk.
- It is.
But I do believe that the potential rewards outweigh the risks.
- Okay.
- As long as we're approaching the space with caution.
- Right.
- And a healthy dose of skepticism.
- So it's about finding that balance.
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- That balance.
- Between enthusiasm and vigilance.
- Exactly.
- And education is key.
- Education is key.
- The more we learn about crypto.
- Mm-hmm.
- The better equipped we'll be to navigate this landscape.
- This complex and constantly evolving landscape.
- Well said.
- Thanks you.
- Thanks for joining us on this journey.
- Been a pleasure.
- Into the world of cryptocurrency scams.
- Yeah.
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- Hopefully you found it informative and empowering.
- Absolutely.
- Remember, stay vigilant.
- Stay informed.
- And keep exploring.
- Keep exploring.
- The future of crypto is bright.
- It is.
- But it's up to all of us to make it safe and secure.
- That's right.