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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
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(00:24):
jep American.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Con gree, Welcome to the Bob and Eric Save of
America Podcast. My name is Bob and my name's Eric Pathini.
Thank you all for tuning, and big thank you especially
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(00:49):
dot com slash Bob and Eric. Everything you give helps
the show continue to come to you week in and
week out. And our guests just got here right on time.
I love when guests show up on time. That that
makes it show so smoothly. We're going to bring him
in just a minute. He's a really interesting guy, and
I think I think him coming on. I had scheduled
him to come on today without necessarily knowing what's going

(01:09):
to happen, and obviously, when you're podcasting and when you're
basing it on current events, you never know what's going
to happen a month ahead, let alone a week ahead.
And he's his whole thing Bradley freedom. His whole thing
is achieving freedom and independence of the idea of that
freedom is not something that's given to you. You have
to take it. And this week, as we watch everything

(01:30):
going on with the tariffs, there's applause. I get it.
I see both sides to it. I think we're doing
the right thing. I've always thought we're doing the right
thing because historically America has entered into diplomacy and trade
and foreign aid with the same idea. We're America, We're

(01:51):
the global superpower. We're a wealthy country. We will give
you whatever you want, no questions asked, no accountability. We
saw it with Ukraine. And as we're cutting off the
fund into Ukraine, what's happening. They're actually sitting down and
talking about peace for the first time since this conflict
began with the trade imbalance and how America continually gets

(02:12):
screwed on trade and we take it because we are
a wealthy country. And Donald Trump comes in and he says,
we're not going to do that anymore. We're actually going
to start imposing tariffs on the countries that don't engage
in free trade with US, and the market responds and
I know people are looking at their follow one ks,
and especially if you're you know, I'm forty three, I'm

(02:32):
not going to retire for a long time. If you're
seventy three, if you're eighty three, and you're like, if
this is what I live off of, I understand the
fear of the discern as you look at your numbers dropping,
because there's going to be turmoil in the markets for
a short period of time. The stock market, lets we forget,
is very fickle. And it's interesting, Bob that we talked
about this because anytime the stock market would dip under

(02:53):
Biden or Obama or any Democrat president, what's the first
thing that paid Democrat shills come out and say? The
stock market's not an indicator of the economy. The stock
market's an indicator of how Wall Street is doing, Main
streets doing well, blah blah blah. So that's where we are.
I think that we're going to see this correct itself
very quickly because the rest of the world cannot afford

(03:16):
to give up America as a trading partner.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Look at the Look at the job numbers for March
way bigger than they don mans is predicted.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, yeah, not only that way bigger than they predicted.
But so just because you have a dip in the
stock market, and I want you to go back and
take a look over the last couple of years, I
want you to see the fluctuations. There was a massive
crater from about twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three
during the Biden administration where s and P five hundred
the Dow lost considerable percentages, only to rebound. Remember the
Dow jump two thousand points after Trump was elected. And

(03:47):
now we're down a little bit. But I believe that
in the coming weeks this is going to correct itself
and we're going to come out on top because we're
not going to be a nation anymore that just sits
by and allows the rest of the world to take
advantage of us. But that being said, as you're sitting
here watching your money, you know, with a little bit
of volatility, I think it also begs the question of

(04:08):
what you can do to be more independent and not
be reliant on external forces, not be reliant on the
whims of what China or Vietnam want to do everything
every aspect of your life. So I want to bring
in our guest today, this is a really interesting guy.
This is Bradley Freedom. Bradley Freedom is a visionary entrepreneur
for three decades, built global startups, mastered human centered design.

(04:32):
I want to know what that means. That's an interesting phrase,
and discovered one undeniable truth that freedom isn't given to you.
You have to claim it. Bradley Freedom, Welcome to the show.
God to have you, and what a good time. You
couldn't have picked a better day to come on because
as we sit here watching volatility in the markets, everybody's
wondering do I have any control over my life, my finances, anything.

(04:55):
Bradley welcome. What say you?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Eric, Thank you, thank you. It's an honor, it's an honor.
Thank you for being here, and thank you everyone for listening.
Excuse me. I'm a little under the weather, but we're
good to go, so that's why my voice may be
a little weird. But thank you so much for having me.
It's an honor, our.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Pleasure to have you. And the first thing I want
to talk about is what's on everybody's minds right now
as you're sitting here. You know, everybody wants to achieve
financial independence. That's the underlying pinnacle that's the pillar of
the American dream is financial independence. And when you have
your money tied up to the stock market, sometimes it
feels like you don't have control over those things. What

(05:36):
would you say, as someone who has kind of dedicated
your whole brand, your whole life to personal freedom, what
do you say to people who are watching their retirement
accounts their for one k's drop right now with this
market volatility? What would you say? And how do you
achieve financial independence? And if your money's tied up in
stocks and subject to the whims of the market, can

(05:56):
you ever really achieve financial independence? I think a lot
of people are questioning.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
That right now. Yeah, I mean, great question and short answers.
I don't know. I mean the stock market. As long
as I can remember, I never really played in the
stock market much. One of my stepdads is very, very
big in the stock market. I was just talking to
him yesterday. He also thinks the tariffs is a is
a good thing. He's really excited right now because he
sees stock discount yeah, and which which I think that's fair,

(06:24):
one hundred percent fair. I do think there's gonna be
not just a rebound, but something that we've never again
if this plays out the way that it should, and
why because we're bringing back the productivity inside. Right, And
I know that you got like, who's that guy Ben
Sapiro out there and he's like, oh my god, the
end of the world because we can't just do every

(06:45):
and we're not saying that we're not gonna work with
any It's again, it's so extreme, right right, And like
Shapiro again, it's just chill out, everybody, take a chill pill.
Watch it develop. Trump's not an idiot. And that's the
thing is like, regardless if you love him or hate him, whatever,
right you have to admit he's a smart businessman and
whatever he's done so far, I'm really happy about. Again,

(07:06):
I'm if you know me, I'm a left wing, right
wing same bird guy. So I'm just old enough to
know that no matter who's been in office, our entire
generations is the people that get screwed. Our freedoms get
taken more and more, we get taxed more, they give
away our jobs, they outsource everything, right, and so again,
and I know the argument, well, Trump's not not one

(07:27):
of the wings, he's not really part of the bird. Well, yeah,
I can get into some stuff about other things, about
that man who really controls everything, you know, the Kazaria mafia,
things like that. But we don't have to go down
that rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
But if I like that, right, that's an interesting I
kind of do want to go down that rabbit hole.
But I want to touch on what you just said.
I think that's the key here, and Bob, I've been
talking to a lot of people about that, is we
all have these regrets in life, like, oh, if I
just would have bought Google back then, if I just
would have bought Apple back then, I think there's gonna
be a lot of opportunity in the markets to buy

(08:00):
up these huge discounts. It's like if you're into crypto,
and you know if bitcoin falls, you know that's how
people are making money. You buy it when it's low
and you sell it when it's high. So I think
I think there's more to the stock market than achieving
financial independence. I think controlling your debt is the key
to financial independence. My in laws we were having a conversation.

(08:22):
They asked me a question, is you know how much
money do you think you need to live comfortably? And
I don't think there's an answer to that, I don't
think there's a dollar amount because I can say for
some people, you live in rural Indiana, you have a
household income of one hundred thousand with no debt. You're
doing better than the doctor who's making half a million
with two and a half million in debt. So there's

(08:42):
no amount of money. I mean mc hammer went bankrupt
with thirty three million, so there's no amount of money.
But Bradley, your whole thing is freedom, and that seems
to be just the underlying theme of your brand. But
freedom on a number of levels, it seems to be
freedom from well just about everything. Tell us what do
you mean by that? And what you mean by human

(09:02):
centered design? What does that mean has a tie into freedom?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, that's a great question. Human centered design, I guess
because that's a part of of well, everything that we
build is technology. So I'm a technologist and that's what
human human centered design is for. It's more more geared
towards technology and how you develop uh interfaces, So it's

(09:26):
it's human interfaces, right, we have to interface with with information.
Who's really good at it? Take take Apple, Apple nailed it.
They are probably well they were right, I mean arguably,
you can give a four year old your iPhone and
they can. I mean, my daughter, she's since she was
three or two, she can operate the thing, right. That's
that's how intuitive it is. And that's really what human

(09:46):
centered design means is that, and that's that's where I
came from my background, aside from being in the military.
So in the nineties is when I kind of really
woke up to, uh that the world I thought I
was living in was a complete lie. It's when I
realized CNN was lying to us right again. I know
today it's everybody knows that, But in the nineties, it

(10:06):
was like, you know, I was in the Marine Corps.
I was seventeen, eighteen year old kid and the Marines,
and like you know, I was, I just became disillusioned,
or my let me say, let me, let me say.
I became more clear the disillusionment that I had had
started to break away, and Uh, I felt duped, I
felt lied to. I was angry. I was very angry.

(10:30):
And so I started my life. I gave my life
to finding out the truth, right, And so what what
was really cool about it was that my whole world
was exploded. And when your world explodes, like everything that
you think is true is not, well, then it's it's
it's actually a good place to be because if you're
if you're true with what you're going towards, which for

(10:51):
me it was the truth no matter where it led me,
I was willing to accept, if that makes sense, right,
there was it was like I was kind of in
a fire that's getting bombed, and I'm like, I don't
know what's over there, but I can't sit here anymore.
And so I had to leave that the space of comfort,
right and just go out into that play. And it

(11:11):
was a very very lonely place for a long time, right,
And that's why when twenty twenty happened, it was probably
the best thing that's ever happened to me. And I
think it's really the best thing that's happened to our country,
believe it or not, into the world, right, And people like,
how can that be that? Well, because it look at
all this we're having this conversation right now, Look how
much it exposed, Look what we're what. It's just amazing
what's happened since twenty twenty. Right now, I know that

(11:34):
there was lots of terrible things, and you know, all
the jabs and all this stuff, but on a deeper level,
just like we're seeing right now with the tariffs, right,
it's short term pain for long term gain. We have
to we have we can't be so short sighted, right
that it's like, and that's what I'm saying earlier, is
like everybody sees, Oh, it's day one of the tariffs
going in and the whole world's over, right, I mean

(11:55):
everything like it's dayble Bradley.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's that you talk about human centered design, talk about
the interface with technology. That's how humanity's been wired. We
have been wired in this techno centered world where everything
is instantaneous. We're not our grandparents, our great grandparents generation.
I was talking to someone the other day about the
concept of waiting in line. You know, we're not a generation.
Maybe we are because we grew up in the eighties

(12:20):
and the nineties, but like you see these videos of
like at airports and fast food restaurants and things, people
losing their absolute minds over the concept of waiting. Like
our grandparents, our great grandparents waited in line. You know,
before the grocery store, you'd wait to see the grocer,
you'd wait for your bread you'd wait for your meat,
and I guess there was just the slower pace of life,

(12:42):
the fact that we live in a world where everything
is instant, where the very means of survival are at
the top of a touch screen, and we can talk
about how that's rewiring humanity, and that's something that's interested
me for a long time to it terrifies me. But
when we live in a short sighted universe, yeah, day
one of a long term plan is going to make

(13:04):
you say, oh my god, the sky is falling when
we haven't even seen what's going to happen. It's going
to take time, it's going to develop. But it's not
only how we're programmed, it's how the media makes its
money because they don't go away. Let's see what happened.
They have to be breaking. Oh my god, the world
is collapsing. You need to watch this. You need to
click on my site because I'm going to scare the
hell out of you right now. But something I want

(13:25):
to touch on what you said. You talk about kind
of becoming aware in the nineties, and that would have
made you an outlier at the time, because I don't
care how conservative or how liberal or how whatever you
thought you were back then when CNN came on, the
overwhelming majority of people, I don't care if you're a
Democratic Republican, believe what the news told you. Nine to eleven.
I was nineteen years old, Arizona State University, get a

(13:46):
call from my mom. Turn on the TV, Turn on
the TV watching I don't remember if it was CNN
or MSNBC or Fox News, but whatever they were telling me,
I was believing it. And nine to eleven, you know,
I remember there was a real fringe nine to eleven
Truther movement. I'm like, oh, that's unamerican, that's un american.
Nine to eleven happened exactly the way they tell us,
these nineteen hijackers did this or that. And it wasn't

(14:08):
until maybe in the last like eight years where I've
started going down the rat hole, going ooh, really did
nine eleven? Was it an inside job?

Speaker 4 (14:18):
So?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
How did what was it in the nineties when we
were all sound asleep? How did you see the light
when we couldn't?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Man, that's a great question. And to be honest, I
used to have a depression around it, you know what
I mean? There was a lot of depression around it
because I it just I talk about a lonely space
to be in, right, And I mean, so I started
the Libertymovement dot org. And this was probably in two
thousand and three, four or five somewhere around there. My

(14:45):
dates are crap, but anyway, it was early two thousands
we started the Libertymovement dot org. And that was because
we were trying to start our own currency, right, And
I was I was explaining to family and friends, right,
And this is back when you just had email, and
so I was just sending out ea I think what
was it? Was it MySpace or something was maybe maybe
the thing at the time. And three four, yeah, around there,

(15:09):
I was sending out emails, right. I would just send
out a bulk email to people and just pointing him
to the website and saying, hey, here's some information. Wrote
this paper about the Federal Reserve. I read the book
The Creature from Jekyl Island. Oh yeah, so then and
and and so it was just this. So just like
twenty twenty or eight years ago for you, whatever it
was was right, it's the same answer. I don't know,

(15:31):
just like I don't know why why other people are
still sleeping, Like I don't know why other people can't
see this yet, you know, especially from twenty twenty. Once
twenty twenty happened, I thought for sure everybody was going
to stand up and say absolutely not, this is it.
And when I saw everyone complying it, it it lit
a fire under me. And that's why I started the
freedom people. We already had the liberty movement, right, but

(15:53):
I in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine
circle around there is when I started kind of I
stopped fighting, right. I was the guy at the part
like getting a little buzzed and telling everybody that they're slaves,
you know what I mean, trying and explain all this stuff,
and nobody gave a crap. Trust me.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I'd be in the corner talking to you. I'd be
in the corner and.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
There was a couple of people, you know, listening, like
what this guy, what is he talking about?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Right?

Speaker 4 (16:15):
And so, But then after like two thousand and eight,
two thousand and nine, once once the bank bailouts and
all that, I really became just like nothing's ever gonna change.
I truly believe that we were this is just the
reality that we had to live in and somehow navigate
right where it was just I felt like this little
lonely weirdo kind of you know what I mean. And

(16:36):
there was other weirdos out there, but it wasn't as
prevalent as it is now, right, And so all the
way through and then twenty twenty hit and then that's
when I was like, it's go time. And so then
then I just, for whatever reason, I don't know, I
got called god source, uh, the energy essence, whatever you
want to say, pushed me into into into action and

(16:58):
uh yeah, I I I saw it for what it was.
My my wife now or we're engaged, she was my
girlfriend and she was watching me. She was because I was.
I was telling her what was going on right before
it would before it would actually come out right, And
I was like I was trying to explain to her.
I was like, it's not what you think. This world
is not what we think. And and so she was

(17:18):
like when I started talking about Bill Gates and all
this stuff, right, and she was just like, what is
going on? She thought I was some profit or something.
I was like, I'm not. I'm just trying to tell
you that when you when you study this stuff. I
mean back in the two or mid two thousands, right,
the I was in the in the Bay Area for
a long time in software stuff. But what was that movement,
the en the FED movement right there was there was

(17:39):
all these things going on, right, and I was part
of all of those trying to make some sort of change.
But then I realized, you know, it's, uh, we're not
going to vote it in, you're not going to vote
it out. This isn't something that that you're going to
change from the top down. We have to change the individual.
And and let me let me, let me put it
this way. We want to be there as as a

(18:01):
support for anybody who's ready, right, We're we're not here
to wake people up. I used to think so, and
again I was the guy yelling at people at parties
and stuff like that, and you're not gonna do anything
that doesn't do anything. So what we kind of realized is,
you know what, we just need to support the individual
and find them when they're ready. Right. Trying to wake
somebody up is like the equivalent of going into the

(18:23):
room at like three am with a pot and pan,
throwing on the lights, banging the crap out of the pan,
and then them getting up and you trying to talk logic,
you know what I mean. They're like, they're like, I
don't care. They're angry, and you're going to try and
like impart knowledge and wisdom and stuff. That doesn't It
just doesn't work. So what does work is that we're
finding more and more people that just naver naturally are

(18:45):
navigating or gravitating towards us. Navigating works too, right, they're
gravitating towards the freedom and when they're ready. And so
that's what the Five Pillars of Freedom Transformation course is
that we've got that we set up because that's this
is how we're going to change, is change the individual.
We need strong, independent, free thinking, hard to kill individuals.

(19:06):
That's what we need. That's what we need. We don't
need no more groups that are gonna go and try
and go up to the to the to the guy
in the house and say, hey, would you please just
give us that's not gonna it doesn't. And that's what
when I say freedom isn't given, it's taken. This is
not it's it's And that's what we have to come
to the realization is that nobody's coming to save us.
God blessed Trump, God bless everybody. And I really hope

(19:28):
it works. But again, I don't know if you remember
his last term, but did what happened right after his
last term? Well that's right, COVID and Biden and all that.
So I'm not gonna sit and wait around, and I
don't think anyone else should either. And so we created
the Five Pillars of Freedom transformation. What's the five pillars?
The five pillars is health, wealth, education, spirituality, and law.

(19:48):
And we help people to take all that back into
their lives and take control of that. Right, I'm someone
here as an attorney, right, maybe both of you, but
so you guys know, so you know how that that
that game works, right, And so we're we teach people
in the law space how to how to present yourself
and not be represented by a bar attorney. Actually, so

(20:10):
there's the Bar Association, as you guys know, right, and
judges are part of the bar. Lawyers are part of
the bar. Guess who's not you? Yeah, you you're not.
So what do we do? We go and we we
hire somebody that's part of this special club as what
was his name, the comedian George Uh, he used to

(20:30):
say it all the time, cage and he would tell
you there's a big club and you ain't in it, right,
And that's what he got. That guy was so smart.
But that's that's the thing, is that we we can
take all these powers back health. Health. If I'm not
If I'm not healthy, who's fault is it? What's the
doctor's fault? Right? If I'm stupid or a kid stupid,
who's fault is it? It's this school's faults, the teacher's fault.

(20:51):
There's it's that's the reason, right right, right, I'm poor
and I can't do anything. It's a stock market's fault.
It's this fault. It's somebody else. It's always we're out
worret our power, right, or it's my stockbroker's fault. That right,
whatever it is, it's always somebody else's fault. And that's
that's just where we've come to as a society. We're
a nanny state, and I mean like a big, big

(21:11):
nanny state like and that's one of the things the
freedom people does very intentionally. We want people to come
to us, but we are not here to be your nanny.
We're here to teach you how to stand on your
own square. That's what we're here for. And that's how
we're going to change, and that's how we're gonna do anything.
We're not gonna sit again. It's this this thing where
we think that by voting things in and voting it out,
we're playing a two party system right now again left wing,

(21:33):
right wing, same bird. Guys, stop, just if we can
all just stop. We the people are the power. We
are everything. We are the engine that runs everything. And
that's another thing. That's where we help people with wealth.
We help you take back your your energy source. Because
guess what, the only thing that produces anything in this
realm is your soul, the living soul. We produce stuff.

(21:55):
Banks don't produce anything. Corpse rations, corporations corpse dead, and
it's ease. They don't produce anything. They have to suck
off the lifeblood of the people. And that's what happens.
What do you think Treasury bonds are.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Backed by nothing?

Speaker 4 (22:09):
The people the to us us, they can tax us, right, So, okay,
So nineteen thirteen the Federal Reserve Act was put into place, right,
does anybody know what happened in nineteen fourteen? Really big
event World War One? Okay, so nineteen thirteen December nineteen
thirteen the Federal Reserve Act not fully ratified, completely unconstitutional

(22:29):
and unlawful right was put into place Woodrow Wilson, nineteen fourteen.
We're in World War one. We've been in war ever since.
Why because every time we go to war we have
to go borrow money. But now it's not that the
people's money, it's we're having to borrow it from what
the central bank at interest. So isn't it bohoo of them?
Don't they want to keep us in war?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (22:51):
And again, so what do we have to do? They
have to go take out a loan. So when you
go take out a loan from a bank, what do
they ask you for? Collateral? Sort of collateral? What does
the United States have if they want to go take
out alone from a bank? You got it? We the people.
They can tax us. And they know that more people
are being born all the time and that they can
tax us. And that's what we need to start to

(23:12):
come to these these realizations and come to grips with
this and completely just step outside of it because it's
a parallel system. And I I have bar attorney friends
now who have been disenfranchised by the bar attorney, by
the Bar Association right, and how they got there was
through the health right through the JAB. So a lot
of these guys, one guy very particular, who's very close

(23:34):
to me, he comes from a long line. His dad's
an attorney's mom's attorneys, sisters attorney, right, like generational attorney.
And it was the JAB. One of his best friends
was a doctor and made him get the JAB, and
then he found out how bad it was and all
this stuff. And then then I had the conversation with
him and I drew the parallels and I was like, okay,
so you see how the medical system, right, there's two

(23:57):
sides to the medical There's there's two sides to health.
There's the the allopathic medicine, and then there's just like
health and what it used to be before alpath amnica
and medicine got in there. Right now, when doctors go
to school, when they go to their Ivy League schools,
how much nutrition do they get? How much about the
human body do they get? Exactly? Not a zip? Right, Okay,

(24:19):
So take that and the parallels between the legal system
and the medical system are uncanny. And once you see it,
you can't unsee it, Okay. So that's why attorneys they
go to their big ivy league schools, right, and they
learn things and a certain they only learn legal ease.
They learn process really really really well. Right, that's what
that's all about. And Eric may maybe you know, maybe

(24:40):
you don't. I mean, I'm sure you do. You went
to school, right, so in that doesn't. So that's what
it's all about. Right, it's and it's not about the law.
It's not actually about the constitution. It's not about any
of that. It's about generating revenue. Believe it or not,
banks or our courts or banks ever been to traffic
or the traffic court?

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah all the time?

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Sure? Sure? How much money do they generate in one
day in traffic court? What is that about? They just
sit there to chang to chang, to change to chang
to chang. Right, And that's that's how they keep continuously
sucking the life out and the wealth out of the people,
and then somehow it flows to the top. And you
have like you know, Nancy Pelosi's worth whatever, the Obamas
who are with hundreds of millions that they'll let us

(25:21):
know about, right, who knows what's really and so these
these these are the things that we we we discuss
because you can't find this anywhere in the mainstream and
you won't. However, it is becoming much much more popular,
I can say, over the past five years than it
was in the past twenty.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Then I agree. And you know, Bob and I were
here during COVID, and you know, commenting on it all
the time, and I just remember, and I've said this
to Bob, if there was ever an impetus for like
a revolutionary war style rebellion in this country, it would
have been during COVID to turn on what was being

(26:01):
imposed upon us. And the fact that so many people
just sat by and wore the mask and got the
jab and walked on the stupid tape in the in
the grocery store and then would shame the hell out
of you and expose you and try to destroy you
for not doing that makes me think that what you're
talking about is not so much rising up against the system,

(26:22):
because I don't know if it's a system that could
be defeated, it is trying to live outside it without
it ever laying its hands on you. I think it's
easier you could get You're never gonna get half the
country to go. Yeah, we're taking our power back. I
don't think you're going to do that. I think way
too many people are content. I think way too many
people don't have the will to fight. I think that

(26:44):
you want to get into some other things about, you know,
lifestyle and nutrition. I mean, I think men are a
fraction of the men that our grandfathers and great grandfathers were.
They had to actually survive. We existed this very cushy
world where our testosterone levels can fall because there's no danger,
and spikes because there's a lion you know that's going
to kill you, or you know someone's gonna shoot you.
If you live in a million dollar house, one thousand

(27:06):
dollars phone and you're eating all this processed food, you know,
that lifeblood that makes you a man. The you know,
the eat, fornicate or kill part of your brain, it
turns it off. So nobody has the will to fight.
So what you're talking about sounds to me more like
how can we live outside the matrix as opposed to
trying to take it head on, because I don't know,
if it's something that could be defeated, it might be
too big to kill.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Amen, brother, you said a lot of good stuff there.
So on that last part, agreed. It's not. It's not.
And that's what I mean by voting it in and
voting it out like it it will never allow. It's
like the human ego. Right, It's like your ego will
it won't allow you to defeat it, so you have
to work with it.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
But that's that's the thing, is that before all the
before all these systems were put in place, before the
I R s existed before, like we we conducted business
as people, as free private people. That's what we did.
These systems are new, so it's like it's like it's
like the allopathic medicine. They came in and took actual
natural healing and made that alternative medicine and made allopathic

(28:07):
medicine the medicine. Right, it's the same exact thing, but
they're giving you this false, this false structure, right like
LLC's incorporations. Right, it's it's laid out in front of you.
It's given to you on a silver platter. It makes
it so easy. Go go to any website, go to
your secretary of state. Set up an LLC ten bucks,
no problem, easy to do. But it do you know

(28:29):
how to set up an unincorporated association? Do you know,
how to set up something so that it's private, a
private entity, so that they don't have regulation or taxation
over you. Absolutely not. And why because it's not part
of that system. They don't want you to know that
they want you they it's designed to keep us in
this so that and then yes, health, that's why the
first pillar that we go through in the five pillars

(28:49):
is health. Why because we think I believe very very
strongly that it's it's the food that's killing us, right,
the food, the water, the air, soil, you can whatever,
but the food is something we can control. We can
control what we put in our body. And so first
first pillar we go over in this five week course
is the health and why health because we want to
decalcify the pineal gland. It's heavy metals, and I believe

(29:14):
that what it does is it these boob tubes and
the frequency and it's right, it's mk ultra like times
a thousand right over the past sixty years or whatever
they've had allowed you had this going on, right, and
so I think that it tunes in and it frequency,
and then so you can't hear what we're saying, like
you cannot like and that's why people are like, now,

(29:34):
are you so stupid? Like what is going on? Like
you're just I truly believe that that's what the zombies
are and that's what we're we're witnessing, right, And it's
not just belief. I've seen it. I've seen it happen
over and over and over again. And a lot of people,
the majority of the people that I know, came to
the Freedom movement through health. Something happened. They had to

(29:56):
go on a fast because they this or that they
had to change their diet or something right, and then
they had these awakenings. They had some sort of clarity
to happen. And I'm starting to really believe that it
is the pineal gland that helps us to hallucinate. This
pineal gland excretes dmt dimethyl trip to mean right, And
that's what we believe is hallucinating our physical experience because

(30:17):
quantum physics tells us that nothing is solid. It's not
even quantum physics, I mean basic what was it when
we were kids in biology or what right do you
look at under the microscope at atoms and you know
that atoms nothing is solid, everything nothing's ever at rest,
Atoms are moving, right, even though this solid table here,
it's actually not solid. Now, how do we believe it solid?

(30:38):
That's where I think DMT comes in. And that's what
gives us this hallucination of an experience right now. Don't
want to get too deep into that. However, if we're
able to clear that out from heavy metals and clear
that away and decalcify, detox that pineal gland, information can
get through you, you see things different, you hear things different.
And that's where so I was raised when I was

(30:58):
a kid, I was raised homeo. So we didn't do
the regular doctor things right, and so that's why I
think maybe I had, you know, the information come through me,
because that's the thing is, I don't think it comes
to us. I think it comes through us, right, That's
what I believe. And so that when we can when
we can clean the vessel, we're able to hear that information.

(31:20):
Whereas I mean, we live, like you said, we live
in a screen world, a boobtube world where it's just
constant Bob Barnman. Go anywhere, there's TVs everywhere. Go to
the library, there's TVs. Go to the bar, go to
the restaurant, go to Yeah, I mean, it's everywhere, and
so if we're not taking care of this vessel and
able to clean it out, that's where I think they're
getting this mind control. Man. I truly believe that, and

(31:43):
that's why again, first thing we do is health. Then
the second thing we talk about is spirituality, because once
you can clear that out, we want you to have
a connection with with your creator, whatever what. I don't care.
But in same with the diet. On the health side,
I don't care if you're a carnivore or vegetarian or
a vegan. I don't care. A brethetarian right, while breathetarian

(32:03):
doesn't fit here because it's just we just want you
to eat clean whatever it is, right, stop eating stuff
with chemicals in it, right, and even in the organic
because I've been organic for years at least I thought
it was, and then a couple of years ago I
had more information that was given to me by some
friends that were like, hey, read the actual ingredients on
that organic salsa. You turn it over and it's got
all kinds of GMO stuff because it only has to

(32:25):
be ninety six percent organic for them to label it organic. Right.
And so these are the things we teach and how
to like, it's like cictric citric acid. Right, go look
at anything there's natural incurring citric acid in lemons, right,
like a natural occurring thing. However, ninety nine percent of
the citric acid you see in food ingredients today is
a GMO. It's GMO. And unless it says citric acid

(32:49):
derived from organic or natural sources, then you know it's
a GMO. And again I ask everyone, go to your
local grocery store, even if you think you're the healthiest
person ever, and just read from the bottom up, not
the top down. Read from the bottom up, because that's
that's where all your chemicals are. And just see what's
actually in our food. Right. So that being said, I
don't care what your religion is, just like I don't

(33:10):
care what your diet is. I want you to want
you to eat clean and I want you to eat clean.
When it comes to your spirituality as well, does that
mean that means your creator is inside of you, believe
it or not, whatever, You don't need to go to
some third party intermediary to give you your connection to spirit.
It's in you. It's inside of you. And the more

(33:31):
that you sit and the more that you listen, and
the more that you take these these these steps to
clean the vessel, that information gets clearer and clearer and clearer.
And then then it's just like truth is just non stop.
And then you'll start to meet other people that have
come to the same conclusion, right, because they've done the
same thing and they actually exist out there. So that's
why the second spiritual pillar is spirituality, because from there

(33:55):
you got to have that. I don't want you to
listen to me, that's the thing, right I I want
you to find it yourself. And that's the framework that
we're doing. That we've we've created is a place for
you to explore and learn and have support with others
who have already done it.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Right.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
That makes you super strong, I mean really hard to kill,
really hard to fool. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Where can we find the course?

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah, absolutely, Freedom pillars dot com. If you go to
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Speaker 2 (35:20):
We need your last name freedom.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
No, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It would be would be getting well, Bradley. I want
I want to thank you for something on the show,
and I love what you're doing and I hope as
many people as possible get the message. And I think
you're right. I think it's not necessarily about defeating the matrix.
I think it's a way to sort of find the
life within the loopholes and live outside of it. I
think it's it's a system that ensnares all of us.

(35:49):
I mean, from the moment you're born, you're assigned to
social Security number and you're you're a tax payer. Yeah,
you're a taxpayer. And I think it's very attractive, especially
as we have a world with uncertainty and violence and
just general unpleasantness. I mean, we have so much at
our disposal, we have so much technology, but I think

(36:11):
the humanity is missing. I mean, you talk about being
bombarded with screens, the ability to exist in the moment,
the ability to be among others. Were becoming a very isolated, lonely, bitter, angry,
unhappy society when we're the richest, fattest, most technologically advanced

(36:32):
culture on the planet. And it makes me think that
you know, those four Bearers who lived in log cabins
and their nearest neighbor was two and a half miles away,
and they grew their own food and could start a
business and didn't have to file papers or pay taxes,
had the right idea. And it was only within the
last you know, one hundred and ten hundred and twenty
years when that all changed. Guys, please please check out

(36:55):
Freedom Pillars. Bradley, thank you so much for coming on
the show. God bless and keep doing the great work
you're doing well. I Bradley freedom man. He does his
stuff in. But but what I like about him is
he doesn't have these grandiose visions. If we're gonna do this,
we're gonna conquer Mount Everest. It's like, no, we're just

(37:17):
not gonna participate in it. We're gonna live outside and
look for the For the average human being, that's a
terrifying thing. People by and large just want to get
along and go along and exist. And I think with
COVID that was one of the big things that we
saw is Hey, I don't like what they're telling me,
but I got to keep my job, or I got

(37:39):
to do this, or I got to keep my kids
in school so they gotta wear masks eight hours a day.
I don't know if they could pull that on us again.
I think again and Bob, we've talked about this. You know,
everything we're getting out of the Trump administration, the second
term Trump, Uh, it will make the previous four years
worth it. That we had to endure that in order
not only to I think people had to be because

(38:03):
we we who have grown up in the last fifty
sixty years, like you're born into this world where you're
taught you know, America is indestructible, where the you know,
the pillar of faith and freedom and nothing bad happens here,
and where the moral beacon of the world. And you
start to realize, like, not all of that is entirely true.

(38:23):
And our government's done some pretty shitty things, you know.
We we cast dispersions and point fingers, and other governments goes,
oh my god, they prosecuted a former president political opponent.
We did the same thing media, Donald Trump. They convicted
him on thirty four counts. They shot him on Life TV.
So give me a break. The tariff stuff. Look, hey,
you know, I look at my four oh one K

(38:44):
grant and I'm not retiring anytime soon, but I look
at it and of course, like you know, I don't
like seeing the drop, but you know, short term pain
for long term benefit, yeah, you know. And that's the thing.
Like I remember, remember when we were in the fight
for a new House speaker and we were going through
these votes and people were like, oh, just just just
vote for Johnson already. Just to come on, stop, stop,

(39:04):
don't be a thorn in the side of the establishment.
You know, people want to see fighting, but no one
likes the fight. You know, everybody likes the idea. We
got a fight Okay, well, this is what a fight
looks like. Oh my god, it's uncomfortable, it's scary, it's uncertain.
That's the same thing when you have a country that
that's entire foreign policy has been built upon appeasement of

(39:25):
other nations and doing what everyone wants us to do
because maybe we have the money to withstand it. And
you have someone who says, Okay, we're gonna put the
cards on the table. It's like a game of chicken,
and you have to have the balls to drive ninety
miles per hour at the other car, because I assure
you they're gonna veer off the street before we do. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah, I'm on everybody that's bitching about the staff markets
falling down. Oh I'd love to talk to you in
six months when this America is going to be on
fire with jobs and then they're gonna say everybody making
less than one hundred and fifty thousand doesn't have to
pay taxes, which is eighty five percent of America, and
then the economy is just gonna blow up because what's
everybody doing with extra money?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Look anything. First of all, you know, fifty percent of
Americans own nothing in the stock market, so yeah, you know,
and then of the fifty percent that do, of the
fifty percent that do, I mean, you know, a small
percentage owns, you know, the majority of shares. Look, it's
not it's and we've said it when the stock market's high.

(40:29):
We've said it when the stock market's low. I like
to have consistency. The stock market is not an indicator
of how the economy is doing. It is not. I
don't care if Trump's an office, Biden's an office. I
don't care if the Dow's fifty or twenty thousand. It
is not an indicator. Consumer confidence is an indicator. Inflation
is an indicator. Unemployment numbers are indicators. The price of
goods indicators. The price of gasoline are indicators. Do you

(40:51):
have food in your refrigerator right now? Is there gas
in your car? Do you have a couple bucks in
your bank account to take your family out for dinner?
Do you have a job or you gainfully employ a
You're gonna show up that job Monday morning. You have
confidence you're gonna keep your job in a month. Those
are the indicators of a good economy. Just because Nike's
down ten percent by and large, that's not gonna have
any impact on your life. And if the price of

(41:12):
Nikes goes up for a couple of months by Adidas,
I mean, look, guys, this is what it takes to
regain American independence. Unless you want to be a debt slave,
and unless you want to be on the receiving end
of completely unfair predatory trade practices where we get screwed
time and time again, unless you want to continue that
status quo. Then we can keep things as they're going,

(41:33):
but there's going to be a short period of adjustment
before I think you see the most prosperous economy we've
seen in our lifetime. And Bob is one hundred percent right.
And if you do own stock, get on the phone
with your broker and say bye bye bye, buy the
bargains now and call me six months, call me a
year from now. Hey, Monday, is the market gonna fall?
When the bell rings? Probably? And Tuesday probably, and Wednesday probably,

(41:57):
and in a week or so when the when the
dust settles. Because at the end of the day, these
are greedy Wall Street fat cats that want to make money,
and right now they're not sitting there pulling their money
out and hiding it under their mattresses. They're buying up everything,
and when the dust settles and the smoke clears, you're
going to see that number start to taper off, and

(42:18):
then it's gonna go back up. And everybody, especially you
conservatives out there going, oh my god, my forelo Okay,
you're gonna have egg on your face. Okay, I don't
know the stocks.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
I own three assets, bitcoin, gold and silver and real gold,
which is I guy that we had on our show
of the.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Goal, the gold guy. Yeah, Now that's a that's one
thing that you know, we'll always retain its value. With
that being said, guys, this is what it takes. And
I think next week, two weeks from now, three weeks
from now, we're gonna be singing a different tune and uh,
this will pass. But this is what's necessary to get
us where we need to be. Otherwise, you know, the
rotations will continue and things will continue as normal. And

(42:57):
we did not elect Trump to maintain business as usual.
We elected him for precisely the opposite. Guys, thank you
so much for tuning in. Greatly appreciate you being here.
By any closing words before we say goodbye until next week.
I loved our guests man, that was great.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
When I come on the show, I don't know who
the guest is and I just get flown away someway.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
So it's like it's like being a spectator at the
same time being a co host. It's fun. I'm going
to that site and putting in the save free, save free,
so I'm gonna do that. As soon as we're off,
I'm gonna do the same thing. Cool. Take care, guys.
Thank you. Keep America.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
You keep America, We'll keep American. Gray keep americun you
keep America, We'll keep him. Many