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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, guys, good afternoon. Let me bring in my
co host here.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He is.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
The world famous Bob Dune Lap. What's up man, Happy Saturday?
What we're live? Say hi to everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Welcome to the Bob and Eric Save America Podcast. My
name is Bob Done, and my name Erk Patini. Thank
you all for tuning in. Guys, Thank you, thank you,
thank you. As we get to thirty days into the
second Trump administration, I think we're all we're all taking
a victory lap.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And for that reason, I have brought a very special
guest on today who's been on the show countless times
for years and years, who has all always been one
of the most thought provoking guests we've ever had. She's
sometimes loved, she's sometimes not. She's sometimes deeply entrenched in conservatism,
sometimes she is politically homeless. Whatever the case may be,
she is a true lone wolf in this world of groupthink.
(01:15):
And I have nothing but respect for her, and usually
I find a lot of common ground with her. Whether
we you know, see eye to eye politically or not.
But I'm going to bring her in. I'm not even
gonna I'm not even gonna push the Patreon right now.
I'm not even going to get into what pays the
bills because I want to take full advantage of her time.
Now before I turn the floor over to Carlin, Boris
(01:36):
Sano with a great doctor, Carlin, I was thinking this morning,
I feel like we're all back in high school and
we're at a wild party and Bob and I and
all the mag of people are doing keg stands and
just trashing the place, and you're like the studious one
who's like, guys, the parents are coming home, Let's get
everything under control, Let's get this house cleaned up. We're like,
(01:56):
hell with you, we're drinking beer. And I think that
analogy is true as far as where we are, thirty
days into an administration where we have to admit a
lot is being done. There's a lot going on. It's
a very active, very energetic administration. But I think, Carlon
the reason I want to have you on today is
there's something that we're not seeing. There's something that we're
not paying attention to that you are because you're juiced
(02:19):
into it. Where are we going wrong? And is our
celebration premature?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Okay, we need to start with one undeniable fact. Democrats
are not the same thing as communists and socialists in America.
They are two completely different groups of people. And so
while I understand yeah, I mean, I'll thought to say it.
I think that Trump has actually done some really good things.
I'm actually pretty overall impressed with the progress that's been
made so far. But what people really need to understand
(02:48):
is is that the the demoralization of the Democratic Party
that I think is obvious and clear, it is a
real thing. That does not mean the real radical revel
lutionary far left has run away. It doesn't mean they're
going home. It doesn't mean they've stopped. In fact, the
real problem and the reason I call the radical when
(03:08):
I say radical revolutionary far left, I mean real communists,
real socialists. We're talking about the people that are pushing
critical race theory in schools, the people who are pushing
gender ideology in school, all the crazy queer activists with
the pink hair and they're doing their fists in the air,
the people doing the protests, the pro Palestine protests, the
immigration protests, the people that are staking out ice facilities.
(03:29):
These are all the radical revolutionary far left. They're not
the Democrats. They hate the Democrats. They denounce the Democrats
all the time. And what people need to know is
that these people are organized, and these people are going
to be recruiting more heavily under the Trump administration than
they were under Biden because now we have a as
we talked about the other day in DMS, a demoralized
(03:51):
Democrat party. Well what does that mean. That means the
radical revolutionary far left is coming in and they're kind
of like putting their arms around all the Democrats who
are upset with the their party, and they're saying, hey, guys,
you know the Democratic Party sucks, right, why don't you
come and join us, because we're going to take care
of you and we hate your party just as much
as you do. This is the real problem that no
one's talking about. And I promise you, no one in
(04:12):
the Trump administration knows how to deal with this problem.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I see that point, and I know that you're juiced
into this more than anybody on the planet. But do
they have do they have the ability to carry out
anything like we saw in the summer of twenty twenty
they had corporate backing. In the summer of twenty twenty,
they had an entire political party behind them. Do you
feel that with the cultural and political shift in this country,
(04:38):
they're just kind of an outlier. I mean, granted's creaky
squeaky wheel gets the grease, but do they really have
the power to do any damage. That's what I think
people are trying to figure out.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, they're about to turn every school in the state
of Vermont into a sanctuary school and get them to
all reject the federal funding so that they can go
and teach whatever they want. And that is across the
entire state of Vermont. They are working with the major
teachers unions in order to do that. This is a
story that I reported on this week exclusively, and they're
working with the National Education Association and the American Federation
(05:07):
of Teachers to do that in schools all across the
state of Vermont. We're seeing in Portland, Oregon, the universities
are starting to do the exact same thing. They're saying,
take your federal funding and shove it. We're going to
teach whatever we want. And so I think a lot
of people thought that with Trump putting down these executive orders,
that the left was just going to bend the need
because they wanted the money. But what people don't understand
is is the left was never really you know, it's
(05:27):
kind of like taking a pay cut. Would it hurt
a little bit, Yeah, sure, But when we're talking about
federal funding in public schools, we're talking about an average
school receiving about fourteen percent of their budget via federal funding.
And so it's like, you know, fourteen percent is nothing
to sneeze app but can they get away without it?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And in Vermont in particular, they're already talking about, Okay,
if we lose this federal funding, we're just going to
get the state to give us more money for these
things anyway, So it doesn't really matter. And so do
they have the influence, Yes they do. They control all
the public schools in the country right now, in red
states and in blue state. Do they have the numbers,
Yes they do. There are more of these people than
(06:04):
people understand, and this is why they are able to
cause so many problems. And I want to put this
thought out there for people who think that that, you know,
far left communities cannot thrive under right leaning administrations. The
furthest left ideology that I track is queer ideology. I'm
actually writing a book on it right now, the Evolution
of queer Ideology, which is what is pushing all this
crazy gender stuff in the world today. This is somewhat
(06:26):
something that no one is talking about. Queer ideology was
cultivated in the eighties under Reagan. It was cultivated under Reagan,
it was cultivated under the first W.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Bush.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
This is a subculture, this is a counter culture movement,
and so when they have all position in the government,
they actually view that as a recruiting opportunity. And so
the answered all your questions is, yes, they can do it,
they will do it. They are continuing to do it,
and they're just pushing forward just like they were before
Trump got elected.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
See with rejecting the federal funding. Okay, so the way
I see it is that blue states are going to
be blue states regardless of who's in office. Vermont, Oregon,
you know, they're outliers as far as as I'm concerned.
If they tried to do this in a state like Florida,
don't you think that DeSantis and his administration would crack
down on it, probably faster than the Trump administration would,
(07:17):
because I think DeSantis has been stronger on culture than
Trump has.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Absolutely not. They've been doing this in Florida for years.
I literally sent the Dasantis administration to almost two years
ago Eric this was okay. So in September twenty twenty three,
I went undercover at the Socialism conference, right. I think
you guys had me on your show. After that, I
went undercover at this big event with four hundred radical
revolutionary socialists. After that conference, I sent the DeSantis administration
(07:41):
recordings from that conference where they were flat out bragging,
we are teaching the band concepts in Florida, and here's
exactly how we're doing it, and we're getting Florida teachers
to zoom in teachers from out of state into their classrooms.
They call it fugitive pedagogy or or or smuggler pedagogy,
where they're smuggling the band curriculum into the classroom. They're
still teaching it in Florida. I have them on tape
(08:03):
saying this multiple times at multiple different events. I sent
it to the Distantius administration. They never did nothing. They
did nothing about it because a lot of the stuff
that the Conservatives do is just a pr campaign, that's it.
And some of Trump's executive orders are exactly the same thing.
You know, I was campaigning against critical race theory before
(08:24):
most people knew.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What it was.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Back in twenty twenty one, I was involved in one
of the first ever state level anti CRT bills in
the state of New Hampshire. Guess what, The Republican Party
completely watered down that bill. It never actually enforced getting
critical race theory out of schools. Critical race theories still
time in schools in New Hampshire to this day. The
reason I say that is that one of Trump's executive
orders that purports to ban radical ideology from schools is
(08:48):
exactly the same language in the New Hampshire anticrt T bill.
It's almost exactly the same. So if it doesn't work
on a state level, it's sure as heck isn't going
to work on a federal level. And no one is
calling out these inconsistent seems to say, hey, guys, does
this actually work in real life? Well, no it doesn't,
and people are going to find out about that sooner
rather than later. But I don't think that anyone can
(09:09):
depend on red states to stave them either.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's interesting because in conservatives conservatives, I've had this critique
of conservatism my whole life is that democrats or liberals,
i should say, as an ideology, have a lot of patience,
believe it or not. They are able to see the
forest for the trees. They're able to look decades ahead.
And we've always said that conservatives are typically looking to
(09:34):
get their next meal, and they're very into right now.
Right now conservatives are winning, taking the victory lap and
joining themselves kind of relishing in the dopamine. But people
don't know that this is going on. I think if
you were not here today, certainly Bob and I wouldn't
know this is going on because it's just not in
front of us. The news isn't reporting on it, you
don't see it online, you don't hear about it. But
(09:54):
it's actively going on. If left untreated, what does this
look like as we're in a Trump administration conservatives and
Congress conservatives in the cabinet, even with all that political
weaponry on our side, what does the future look like
if something is done about this?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So the radical revolutionary far left is not get their
power from elections. In fact, they reject the idea of elections.
These are revolutionaries. These are people who literally want to
overthrow the federal government, and they want to do it violently,
and they talk about doing it violently, and yes, they
have the guns in order to be able to do it.
But what we're looking at is that these are groups
that are going to be recruiting heavily from the disaffected
(10:32):
Democratic Party because a lot of Democrats they're not going
to go towards Trump. They didn't vote for Trump, they
don't like Trump. I mean, maybe like you might think
they're crazy for liking Kamala Harris, I certainly do. But
the fact is they're not going to go right because
they're party abandoned them. They're going to go left. And
this is the way that these groups are going to
continue to explode. You look at something like the Revolutionary
(10:52):
Communists of America, which is a group that I track heavily.
People might remember they had a viral video several months
ago of all these communists protesting in Philadelphia and they
were all wearing the red shirts and they had the
communist flags, and about five hundred of them marching down
the street. That's the Revolutionary Communists of America, and they're
reporting that their recruiting numbers are exploding, and and they're
(11:13):
flat out going there. They They've posted multiple videos on
their YouTube channel in the last couple of weeks flat
out targeting Democrats, saying your party sucks.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
We all know it. Come to us.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
We're gonna we're gonna fix this problem because we can't
rely on these parties to save us. And so I
think we're only going to see these parties growing and
expanding and that should quite frankly, terrify everyone. And I
really want to make sure people understand this. Conservative media
is not reporting on this, and it's not because it's
not happening. It's because they're not reporting on it. This
is stuff that I watch all the time because I
(11:44):
know what groups to pay attention to, and I know
what they're doing. This is stuff you have someone like us.
There's this guy Stu Stu studio on Twitter. Everyone should
follow him. He's the Stu Stu studio. He posts protest
coverage from the call the college campuses. The campus protests
are ramping up again. To people even know this because
it's not being reported. They're ramping up all over the country.
They're doing exactly the same thing they were doing last spring,
(12:07):
where we're gonna start seeing more communists and socialist groups
in the streets. They're recruiting in the unions, they're recruiting
on college campuses, and I promise you, once summer hits,
we are going to start seeing mass protests because you
know what, it's a little bit cold right now. There's
a lot of snow on the ground, at least where
I live. They're not protesting right now, but they will
be in a couple of months. And people do need
to take this problem seriously. And I wish conservative media
(12:29):
was reporting on it instead of taking a victory lap,
but they're simply not.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Can I say something, Can you get this to the
FBI at all?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I mean, I put it all out on the internet, Bob,
So I mean it's all like if the FBI wants
this information, like, I have it all. I know exactly
what groups of track, I know exactly what they're doing.
I'll sit down with the FBI any day, as long
as there're as long as I don't have to hire
a lawyer to be interviewed by them. Because that was
my last sit down with the FBI after January sixth.
But uh, but no, I mean, but it's just like
my my listen, I've been trying to spread the word
(13:01):
about this stuff literally for years. You guys know this.
You guys have been great supporters of mine for years.
When I try to, no one listens and no one
takes it seriously, and then everyone is surprised when chaos erupts.
And I'm like, I tried to tell.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You, guys. You know, Carlin, you're right that conservative media
doesn't report on this, and I'll tell you why. And
I don't think this is surprized to you or to
many people. Conservative media it feeds its own monster. And
you know when Trump won, right now, it's very much
like let's put elon Musk on a pedestal doze corruption.
We're winning. We're winning, which is a great message, and
(13:36):
it's a positive message. And no one wants to be
the naysayer. No one wants to be like, oh, let's
doom post about this. But the media, I guess the
media has got to feed its base otherwise people are
going to turn it off. So the media, to some extent,
is responsible. The conservative influencers are even worse because so
many of them are in it for themselves. How many
events have we been to? And it's just like it's
(13:58):
a me festival. It's not about a bigger causes about
how close to the throne can I get? Can I
get a selfie with Roger Stone? So I could put
it out to my three hundred thousand followers. It is
really like that. We see that happening, and there's a
grifter class that comes with it, that comes with any
political movement. That's not particular one or the other. But
it's important to have these conversations. And while I think
what Trump's done in the last thirty days is remarkable
(14:20):
and what's being exposed right now should piss off every American.
I say it a thousand times when you look at
your paycheck that withholding you're the victim of a crime.
I mean, you're not paying for roads, you're not paying
for schools, you're not paying for military, you're paying for
truck Schumer to have his vacation home, you're paying for
circumcisions in Peru. They're kicking back ten million dollars to
(14:40):
whoever authored that bill. So if without accountability, I think
that means nothing. I think people are real excited right
now about what is happening. And it's a very fast
moving administration. You know, the benchmark for presidency used to
be the first hundred days. I think it's now the
first thirty days. Like, holy hew, look at what this
guy is able to do. And also the change of pays.
You know, Joe Biden who was asleep at the wheel,
(15:02):
and having Trump who's just one day to the next.
Now you say some are coming along with Trump kind
of taking on this whole new persona very different than
he was in twenty seventeen. I'm afraid not really. You know,
new politicians, no matter how bold and brashley are, tend
to be afraid of their own shadow to some degree,
(15:22):
getting real bad advice. I mean, I have my plenty
of critiques over his first administration, but he doesn't have
to win reelection. And this is a guy who's been
shot on national TV. He is out of concerns and
he'll do what he wants. Don't you think that if
we have a repeat of Summer twenty twenty and the
summer twenty twenty five, Trump's invoking the Insurrection Act. He's
putting the military in there. He's like, I don't care
(15:42):
what the media says. Obviously, in twenty twenty, he took
a very stand back approach. Do you think that would
change if we see riots on the streets, You think
that's going to change?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Well, so, okay, I'm of two minds about this. First off,
I hope that Trump does bring out the military. I
hope Trump tries to cry. I believe that we should
be trying to crush the left with as much force
as possible under our boot so that they never want
to get up again. However, what people need to understand
is is that the left wants that confrontation. The left
hates the police. They want to abolish the police, they
(16:13):
want to get rid of all prisons. This is one
of their number one issues. And if Trump brings out
the military and he brings out the police, the left
are going to be there with video cameras and they're
going to make sure they're getting everything on tape and
they're going to record it. And so if Trump does
do that, he's got to do it very very carefully
because if they get footage of the police or the
military beating up protesters, that is actually going to help them.
(16:35):
That's actually exactly what they want. The left tries to
intentionally provoke people into making them do the things they
want them to do, and they don't care if they
have to sacrifice their body, they don't care if they
have to go to jail. I mean, we've seen this
all over the place, and so I think, you know,
I think that the Trump administration would be really well
advised to hinge into what the radical left is publishing online,
what they're saying online. They do this all in public.
(16:57):
I cover all of it, I archive all of it.
I'm not one of them. I'm not one of the
only people who do this. There are other people who
do it too. But you know, this information is available
out there to anyone who wants to look at it.
And TIFA gave us their battle plan for how they
were going to attack ICE facilities before Trump was even
in office. They published it on their website, but no
one looked at it. And then everyone's surprised when all
(17:17):
of a sudden, all these protesters are showing up at
ICE facilities to try to prevent these deportations, and we
can look at it and say, right now, they're actually
winning because Trump's deportations are not going as well as
he would want them to go like he's deporting less
people than Joe Biden did. And that's why he just
fired his ice, his ice, you know, I guess person
they put in charge of that. But people need to
(17:38):
know this information is out there, It is in public,
it is freely available. But people need to look at
it and pay attention to it. And I know that
people don't like it. It's stressful, they don't like the left.
It makes them have all sorts of feelings. But I
promise you the feelings you're going to have looking at
it now are going to pale in comparison to when
they actually start executing their plans and they start winning,
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and then you have your real wake up call.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Then you know, one thing I noticed I saw some
videos the other day. So Luigi Mangioni, who infamously murdered
the CEO of United Healthcare, has attained to godlike status
for many on the left, and not even radical protesters,
the radical communists, like young women who think he's some
kind of heroes attractive. There is this kind of foot
(18:23):
seas that you know, mainstream Democrats play with the far left.
You see something like that where a man who's committed
murder and broad daylight. But it's symbolic of a you know,
tearing down Corporate America, this evil insurance company, and then
to hold this guy up, even where mainstream CNN reporters
are like, hey, look, you want to donate to his
GoFundMe I hit hit. Do you think like when you
see things like that and mainstream acceptance of a murderer,
(18:47):
does that give you concern that these far left policies
and far left ideologies really have a good opportunity here
to bleed over into the mainstream.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I cannot emphasize this enough. The far left does not
like the Democratic Party. The far left does not believe
the Democratic Party supports them in any way. They actively
the far left hates the Democratic Party more than they
hate the Republican Party and more than they hate conservatives.
So am I concerned that the Democratic Party are going
to start spouting the policies of the far left.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
They didn't do it throughout the Biden administration. I know
people think that they did because everyone was saying that
the Democrats are communists, but in fact they really didn't,
and the real communists and socialists were complaining about them
the entire time. The real communists and socialists protested the DNC,
they protested Kamala Harris, they didn't vote for her, and
so so am I concerned about that. No, because again,
people really need to understand that the far left does
(19:38):
not care about winning elections. They don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
About it at all.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
They believe their goal is revolutionary. They want to overthrow
the system. Their goal is to destabilize things and cause
enough pain so that people are in a position to say,
this really sucks. We need a really brand new system here,
and that's when they're going to go in and try
to overthrow the government. They do have people in the military,
they do have people all through the government, although possibly
(20:01):
less now than they did before with so many firings
the layoffs, which I think are a really good thing.
But I think, you know, Luigi is is an interesting case,
right because no one likes insurance companies. Everyone thinks insurance
companies screw people, and so I think he's one of
those kind of cases where it's like, you might not
be a far leftist, but you still probably hate insurance companies,
and you still probably hate insurance CEOs. I think some
(20:22):
of us can be a little maybe maybe not. We're
not gonna shoot anyone in cold blood or anything, but
I think we could be sympathetic to why people might
have an issue with that. But I think what people
need to hear is the people that the far left
you're you're correct, and that they are deifying him, they
are lifting him up, they are calling for the murder
of CEOs. They do this all the time. Blue Sky,
by the way, is fascinating. They literally call for the
(20:43):
murder of CEOs all the time on Blue Sky. This
is one of the places that I track them. And
and so I think that people need to be prepared
that the left is not afraid to be violent. They
do have guns, they train with guns. There are entire
socialist gun clubs, believe it or not, and they are
willing to do what it takes to achieve their goals
in a way that people on the right simply are
(21:03):
not aware of.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I think when I look at the Luigi Manngionian and
the reason I bring that up is I've seen videos
of his core appearances are just lots and lots of
young women like well put together, you know, you know,
presentable young women, not with the pink hair and the
nose rings like they look like they could be your
next door neighbor who are fascinated by this guy. What
I see when I look at that is sort of
a gateway drug into violent radical socialism, where hey, this guy,
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you know who presents well and he's attractive and he
shot and killed this evil CEO. I can support that
idea because one I like the way this guy looks,
and two I don't dislike what he did. And that's
kind of like putting your foot in the water and going, oh,
I understand this, because because that's a radical left talking boy. Yeah,
United Healthcare. Yet they screw everybody with no one has
a nice thing to say about them, but we're certainly
(21:52):
not going to condone walking up and shooting them in
the street. Then again, on the on the far right,
or not even the far right, just on the right.
Hell I I you know, when a child molester gets
murdered in prison, we're all like, yeah, it's a great thing.
You know, child molusters are terrible people. So many strangles him,
we cell butate the Hey where's this commissary. Hey, let's
let's get him out of jail. So I think maybe
we're both guilty of it to some extent, like is
(22:14):
one murder better than the other. But I see it
as like a stepping stone where people who you know,
forget the Democrat Party for a minute, just people who
look at that and go, I can support what he did.
Oh there's an entire ideology that purports to push for that.
Sign me up, where can I learn more? And sort
of the radicalization, I mean, the ISIS does the same thing. Hey,
(22:34):
you know Israel's doing this, or if you know Europe's
doing this, or the Great Satan America's doing this, or
I don't like what they do, let me learn more
about you. Ah yeah, I can subscribe to that. So
I can see it being a recruiting tool.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, absolutely. And that's what the left does, eric is
they is they try to put as many ideas out
there as possible to just get people to come to
a meeting, get people to come to their book club,
get people to read a paper or watch a video
that maybe they had to and they hadn't seen before.
And that's when they get their hooks in them. I mean,
I firmly believe the far left is a cult. It
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is a fully functional ecosystem in and of itself that
they try to pull people into their cult. And once
you're in their cult, you only talk to other people
in the cult, you only read books from the cult,
you only go to events with people in the cult.
There are radical revolutionary leftist bookstores in every major city
in this country where they hold events, They hold book clubs.
The authors, the socialist activists travel around and they meet
(23:27):
with people. There are people doing this right now. They're
having book tours right now, and so this is how
they recruit, and they're looking for every opportunity again to
reach out to those democrats and those liberals and those
progressives who are disaffected with Democratic Party because they believe
the Democratic Party failed them, and a lot of them do.
And they're saying, hey, guys, come over here with us,
come over, We're a better place for you to be.
(23:48):
And so this is the real danger in this And
I think that you know, for the last couple of years,
the left has been almost entirely focused on the free
Palestine issue, right, and a lot of and there is
a real Palestinium free movement that's been around for a
long time. But what I want people to understand is
all the so called pro hamas pro Palestine protests on
college campuses, in the street. This is all the radical
(24:11):
revolutionary far left. As soon as Trump got elected, they
shift gears and they pivoted to a resist Trump stance again.
So this is why you're seeing so many immigration protests
in the street. It was a direct response to what
Trump was doing. This is one of the first issues
they started organizing around. You have things like the Party
of Socialism and Liberation, the People's Forum in New York
(24:31):
City that are actually funded by like new USAID type things,
and I've proven that on my Twitter I shared that
a couple weeks ago. But they are extremely coordinated. They
have weekly meetings, they have scheduled protests that are taking
place in New York City. But what we're gonna start
seeing again, and this is where it starts to get
really scary, is we're going to start seeing queer and
(24:53):
gender activism rise up again. It's really been very very
quiet on that front for the last couple of years.
But with Trump's executive borders around gender and around getting
this ideology out of school, which are good, those are
actually positive things, You're really pissing off the queer activists
and that is a whole other level of dystopia that
people are completely unprepared for, and we're talking about they
(25:17):
want to abolish all gender, they want to abolish the
nuclear family, they want to get rid of all parental rights.
These are the fat studies people, These are the disability
justice people. These are the really the crazy looking people
that you might see at the protests. And so people
need to buckle up and get ready because just because
Trump won, and just because Trump is doing good, this
does not mean that this threat has gone away. And
(25:40):
in fact, I think this threat is only going to
get more powerful.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I agree, because you know, they're certainly going to
use this as a point of grievance upon which to
recruit other people and disaffected Democrats too. I mean, they
may hate the Democrat Party. They're looking at people because
I think I think one of the chief mistakes that
the Democrats have made, and just from a political science perspective,
I really wish we had a viable, reasonable, common sense
(26:07):
Democrat party because then we'd have some opposition. It would
strengthen our ideas, it would challenge our ideas, you know,
steal strength and steal. We don't have that right now,
We're one party state because the Democrats completely fell apart.
They've abandoned their principles. I don't think they know which
direction they're going. They have no viable candidates for twenty
twenty eight and they haven't done that deep dive into
(26:28):
their policies and done well. How did we lose? How
did we go from having the White House? How did
we go that Trump won again when our whole position
was running against this guy? What did we do wrong?
And from at least people I've spoken to, and I'm
sure you're the same way. The Dems who may hate
Donald Trump, who I can't stand the guy turned off
the TV when he's on, But all the transgender, all
the DEI, all the social stuff. I couldn't do it anymore.
(26:51):
I went into the polling booth, I held my nose.
I voted for Trump. Heard that from a ton of people,
and I think or they didn't vote, they just weren't
motivated to vote for Kamala Harris. So you know, I
can see that being a recruiting tool, certainly for the
far left. That being said, I mean, conservatives are are
principal people. They're very well armed people. I don't know
(27:14):
if they're just going to sit back and go like,
oh yeah, okay, you guys, go ahead and burn our
businesses down. I think I hope it doesn't happen at all.
I hope no one's right or wrong. I just shope
it doesn't happen. But I think if you see a
repeat of summer of twenty twenty in the summer of
twenty twenty five, I think we're a very different country
right now. I think you'd see I think it would
be bad for the people that came out and did that.
I really think they underestimate the right.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with that. I don't
think conservatives would do anything. I think they sit at
home on their on their couch watching the football game.
I don't think they're getting out their guns. I don't
think they're going into the streets and listen. I would
love to be wrong about this, but everything that I've
seen shows me that the conservative right has an absolute
disinterest in being involved in fighting back against the left.
(27:58):
And you know, Eric, I've I've been in this game
for a long time now. I've been trying to get
conservatives to do something for literally years. I can't get
them to sit down and watch a twenty minute video
of a literal communist telling them about their plans. Do
I think that conservative is going to pick up their
gun and go out into the street. No, I don't,
And so it's kind of like, you know, I mean,
people really do need to take this seriously, and you
(28:20):
don't want to take it seriously. Once it's too late,
you need to take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I firmly believe, and I've been. I spend six days
a week watching the radical revolutionary far LAPT. I track
all their major groups, I track all their major activists.
I know exactly what they're saying, exactly what they're doing.
I firmly believe we are about ten to fifteen years
away from a real communist overthrow of our federal government,
simply because most people are completely disinterested in what's actually
(28:44):
going on. The media is not covering it, people are
not informed. A lot of conservative influencers just flat out
lie to their audience about what's going on. They cherry
pick things, they take it out of context, they blow
it up into something. It doesn't mean people need to
start hinging back into reality. I think there is a
possibility of beating the far left and to like truly
(29:05):
regain the country. But it's gonna require more than Trump
getting elected and issuing a couple executive orders. And so again,
while all this stuff is good, and I'm not gonna
say a lot of things Trump isn't doing are good,
they are good, it's not enough. The Left have been
brewing in this country for one hundred years. They've been
playing the same playbook for one hundred years. It doesn't
stop within thirty days.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
What can we do to help?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Because, yeah, the very best thing that people can do,
and this is the answer that people don't like me
to give, Bob, is that people need to start paying
attention to what the left is doing. And most importantly,
and what I spend most of my time doing is
teaching people the language of the left, because the left
speaks a completely different language than we do. It might
sound like English, but it is not English. I to
(29:50):
call it socialists. It is a completely It's like it's
like if you're speaking French or Chinese or Russian. It
is a different language. And so people need to sit
down and actually learn the la wuhage of the left,
learn what they mean by their ideas, learn what their
actual ideas are, learn what their actual grievances are. I
do this six days a week on my YouTube channel.
People can find it on YouTube bottom on Rumble. I'm
(30:11):
on X Carlin Borsenko. My name is pretty unique, so
you can find me pretty easily. But but you know,
sit down and actually listen to what the left is saying.
I have clips for days of actual socialists and communists
telling us what they believe and what they're actually doing.
And people need to start learning. And so that's what
you can do. You can learn what they're doing, you
(30:32):
can learn how to explain it simply and easily to
other people. And then you go out there and you say, hey,
we're not in the position that we might think we're in.
We need to pay attention to this, even if it's
just being extra vigilant, like like, we all need to
to get on board with the fact that we actually
haven't won. We want a little minor skirmish in a
(30:53):
hundred year war. That skirmish is important, but the war
is a much bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
War is ongoing, and the number one war correspondent is
here on the show, Carlin. You got a new book
coming out, tell us about it.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Actually it came out this week. It's called A Brief
History of Racism. And this is a fun little project
I did where I actually went back and I said,
who invented the term racism? What did it mean at
the very beginning? Who has eld who has changed the
definition of racism over time? And so I went back
to the invention of racism in nineteen oh two and
I said, here's where it started, and here's how it evolved.
(31:29):
And it actually goes all the way up to present day.
And it includes stuff about Trump's executive orders and how
that plays into it as well. So that is available
on Amazon and paperback and kindle right now. And I'm
going to be announcing another book on my show tonight
Socialism Saturday, and I think you guys are gonna love it.
I'm not gonna let the cat out of the bag yet,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna send it to you once
(31:50):
I officially announced it. You guys are gonna love this book.
And let's just say, we're doing some debunking of leftist
ideas in the new book. So it's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I love it. Carlin's first book is proudly on my bookshelf. Carlon.
We love having you on. Thank you for bringing to
light that which was in the dark and that which
you know prior to thirty minutes ago we had no
idea about. And I think voices like yours are important.
Enjoy being independent and politically homeless and staying true to
your craft. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
See that's what we need. We need ideas that challenge
our own I don't want to be the mega echo chamber.
As much as I'm a champion for our cause, I
don't want us to ever get complacent. So I love
having her on. I disagree on the point that I well, okay,
I agree and disagree. If riots break out in the
summer twenty twenty five, if it's in the city, yeah,
(32:46):
no one's getting up to go protect cities. If it
If it trickles over into rural America or in the suburbs,
I don't think it's going to end well for the
people that are perpetrating that violence. I think if you
own a business this time around, you're going to be
sitting in your little retail shop with a gun or
I don't know, adorable with a gun. We haven't been
(33:07):
thinking like that because it just feels like there's so
much winning. But you know, she's right, there's a whole
element in this country, as non mainstream as they may be,
that is using this as a recruiting opportunity to say, hey,
oh my god, evil Trump, the Democrats failed us. And
you know, just keep your head on a swivel. You'll
be be vigilant. But again, I'll tell you, and I
want to close on this the work that Trump has
(33:29):
done Department of Governmental Efficiency, the doge, Elon Musk, we
got cash, betel we got the cabinet in I couldn't
be happier where we are. My only caveat is exposure
is not enough. But we got to have accountability. And
I love the fact that Elon Musk is talking about,
(33:51):
like we are going to go after people. If you
came into office and you don't have family money or
independent wealth or some other legitimate source of income, and
you're now worth thirty forty fifty dollars, We're going to
get to the bottom of it real quick. And look
that one look at an a look at a lot
of people, and you know, not just Democrats, plenty of Republicans.
To Lindsey Graham, look at Mitch McConnell, something else. It
(34:13):
would be really nice if the FBI pivoted and started
going after these people that she was just talking about
instead of I don't know, Catholic churches and people that
protest at school boards.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It seems like that would be a good pivot for camp.
Well stand by because it's a brand new FBI. You know,
new new sheriff in town. It's gonna be brand new.
You're you're not going to see an FBI that's targeting
people for what they say on their podcast and what
they post. You're not going to have that anymore. This
is a new era, and I hope that we can
materialize greatly and just you know, continue going forward and
(34:46):
doing what you know, what Carlin's saying is is keep
an eye on what the far left is doing. Understand
that there are enemies in the midst and there are
people that don't like what Trump is doing in the
direction our country is going. But you know, again, I
think that this is a time where the reason we
have a political shift in this country is we had
a massive cultural shift and that was by and large
a wholesale rejection of everything the left has stood for
(35:08):
for the last five to ten years, and I do
think that culture coming back. Obviously politics being downhill from that.
It just doesn't appeal to people the same way. And
again not that it ever appealed to people, but you
don't have the corporate backing and the pressure on people
to bend the knee, and you better support DII initiatives.
You better put up your pride flag or we're gonna
(35:29):
shut your business down. You don't see that. I almost
see the idea of cancel culture as being something of
the past. It doesn't really exist anymore. You can kind
of say what you want, We're not saying the same
retribution being sought after people who who go against the
liberal ideology. I'm good guys. With that being said, thank
(35:50):
you all for tuning in. Please make sure to hit
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Thank you enjoying the rest of your weekend, and we
will see you next time. Thank you guys. Take care. Yeah,
(36:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, guys, good afternoon. Let me bring in my
co host here.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He is.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
The world famous Bob Dune Lap. What's up man, Happy Saturday?
What we're live? Say hi to everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Welcome to the Bob and Eric Save America Podcast. My
name is Bob Done, and my name Erk Patini. Thank
you all for tuning in. Guys, Thank you, thank you,
thank you. As we get to thirty days into the
second Trump administration, I think we're all we're all taking
a victory lap.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And for that reason, I have brought a very special
guest on today who's been on the show countless times
for years and years, who has all always been one
of the most thought provoking guests we've ever had. She's
sometimes loved, she's sometimes not. She's sometimes deeply entrenched in conservatism,
sometimes she is politically homeless. Whatever the case may be,
she is a true lone wolf in this world of groupthink.
(01:15):
And I have nothing but respect for her, and usually
I find a lot of common ground with her. Whether
we you know, see eye to eye politically or not.
But I'm going to bring her in. I'm not even
gonna I'm not even gonna push the Patreon right now.
I'm not even going to get into what pays the
bills because I want to take full advantage of her time.
Now before I turn the floor over to Carlin, Boris
(01:36):
Sano with a great doctor, Carlin, I was thinking this morning,
I feel like we're all back in high school and
we're at a wild party and Bob and I and
all the mag of people are doing keg stands and
just trashing the place, and you're like the studious one
who's like, guys, the parents are coming home, Let's get
everything under control, Let's get this house cleaned up. We're like,
(01:56):
hell with you, we're drinking beer. And I think that
analogy is true as far as where we are, thirty
days into an administration where we have to admit a
lot is being done. There's a lot going on. It's
a very active, very energetic administration. But I think, Carlon
the reason I want to have you on today is
there's something that we're not seeing. There's something that we're
not paying attention to that you are because you're juiced
(02:19):
into it. Where are we going wrong? And is our
celebration premature?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Okay, we need to start with one undeniable fact. Democrats
are not the same thing as communists and socialists in America.
They are two completely different groups of people. And so
while I understand yeah, I mean, I'll thought to say it.
I think that Trump has actually done some really good things.
I'm actually pretty overall impressed with the progress that's been
made so far. But what people really need to understand
(02:48):
is is that the the demoralization of the Democratic Party
that I think is obvious and clear, it is a
real thing. That does not mean the real radical revel
lutionary far left has run away. It doesn't mean they're
going home. It doesn't mean they've stopped. In fact, the
real problem and the reason I call the radical when
(03:08):
I say radical revolutionary far left, I mean real communists,
real socialists. We're talking about the people that are pushing
critical race theory in schools, the people who are pushing
gender ideology in school, all the crazy queer activists with
the pink hair and they're doing their fists in the air,
the people doing the protests, the pro Palestine protests, the
immigration protests, the people that are staking out ice facilities.
(03:29):
These are all the radical revolutionary far left. They're not
the Democrats. They hate the Democrats. They denounce the Democrats
all the time. And what people need to know is
that these people are organized, and these people are going
to be recruiting more heavily under the Trump administration than
they were under Biden because now we have a as
we talked about the other day in DMS, a demoralized
(03:51):
Democrat party. Well what does that mean. That means the
radical revolutionary far left is coming in and they're kind
of like putting their arms around all the Democrats who
are upset with the their party, and they're saying, hey, guys,
you know the Democratic Party sucks, right, why don't you
come and join us, because we're going to take care
of you and we hate your party just as much
as you do. This is the real problem that no
one's talking about. And I promise you, no one in
(04:12):
the Trump administration knows how to deal with this problem.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I see that point, and I know that you're juiced
into this more than anybody on the planet. But do
they have do they have the ability to carry out
anything like we saw in the summer of twenty twenty
they had corporate backing. In the summer of twenty twenty,
they had an entire political party behind them. Do you
feel that with the cultural and political shift in this country,
(04:38):
they're just kind of an outlier. I mean, granted's creaky
squeaky wheel gets the grease, but do they really have
the power to do any damage. That's what I think
people are trying to figure out.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, they're about to turn every school in the state
of Vermont into a sanctuary school and get them to
all reject the federal funding so that they can go
and teach whatever they want. And that is across the
entire state of Vermont. They are working with the major
teachers unions in order to do that. This is a
story that I reported on this week exclusively, and they're
working with the National Education Association and the American Federation
(05:07):
of Teachers to do that in schools all across the
state of Vermont. We're seeing in Portland, Oregon, the universities
are starting to do the exact same thing. They're saying,
take your federal funding and shove it. We're going to
teach whatever we want. And so I think a lot
of people thought that with Trump putting down these executive orders,
that the left was just going to bend the need
because they wanted the money. But what people don't understand
is is the left was never really you know, it's
(05:27):
kind of like taking a pay cut. Would it hurt
a little bit, Yeah, sure, But when we're talking about
federal funding in public schools, we're talking about an average
school receiving about fourteen percent of their budget via federal funding.
And so it's like, you know, fourteen percent is nothing
to sneeze app but can they get away without it?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And in Vermont in particular, they're already talking about, Okay,
if we lose this federal funding, we're just going to
get the state to give us more money for these
things anyway, So it doesn't really matter. And so do
they have the influence, Yes they do. They control all
the public schools in the country right now, in red
states and in blue state. Do they have the numbers,
Yes they do. There are more of these people than
(06:04):
people understand, and this is why they are able to
cause so many problems. And I want to put this
thought out there for people who think that that, you know,
far left communities cannot thrive under right leaning administrations. The
furthest left ideology that I track is queer ideology. I'm
actually writing a book on it right now, the Evolution
of queer Ideology, which is what is pushing all this
crazy gender stuff in the world today. This is somewhat
(06:26):
something that no one is talking about. Queer ideology was
cultivated in the eighties under Reagan. It was cultivated under Reagan,
it was cultivated under the first W.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Bush.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
This is a subculture, this is a counter culture movement,
and so when they have all position in the government,
they actually view that as a recruiting opportunity. And so
the answered all your questions is, yes, they can do it,
they will do it. They are continuing to do it,
and they're just pushing forward just like they were before
Trump got elected.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
See with rejecting the federal funding. Okay, so the way
I see it is that blue states are going to
be blue states regardless of who's in office. Vermont, Oregon,
you know, they're outliers as far as as I'm concerned.
If they tried to do this in a state like Florida,
don't you think that DeSantis and his administration would crack
down on it, probably faster than the Trump administration would,
(07:17):
because I think DeSantis has been stronger on culture than
Trump has.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Absolutely not. They've been doing this in Florida for years.
I literally sent the Dasantis administration to almost two years
ago Eric this was okay. So in September twenty twenty three,
I went undercover at the Socialism conference, right. I think
you guys had me on your show. After that, I
went undercover at this big event with four hundred radical
revolutionary socialists. After that conference, I sent the DeSantis administration
(07:41):
recordings from that conference where they were flat out bragging,
we are teaching the band concepts in Florida, and here's
exactly how we're doing it, and we're getting Florida teachers
to zoom in teachers from out of state into their classrooms.
They call it fugitive pedagogy or or or smuggler pedagogy,
where they're smuggling the band curriculum into the classroom. They're
still teaching it in Florida. I have them on tape
(08:03):
saying this multiple times at multiple different events. I sent
it to the Distantius administration. They never did nothing. They
did nothing about it because a lot of the stuff
that the Conservatives do is just a pr campaign, that's it.
And some of Trump's executive orders are exactly the same thing.
You know, I was campaigning against critical race theory before
(08:24):
most people knew.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What it was.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Back in twenty twenty one, I was involved in one
of the first ever state level anti CRT bills in
the state of New Hampshire. Guess what, The Republican Party
completely watered down that bill. It never actually enforced getting
critical race theory out of schools. Critical race theories still
time in schools in New Hampshire to this day. The
reason I say that is that one of Trump's executive
orders that purports to ban radical ideology from schools is
(08:48):
exactly the same language in the New Hampshire anticrt T bill.
It's almost exactly the same. So if it doesn't work
on a state level, it's sure as heck isn't going
to work on a federal level. And no one is
calling out these inconsistent seems to say, hey, guys, does
this actually work in real life? Well, no it doesn't,
and people are going to find out about that sooner
rather than later. But I don't think that anyone can
(09:09):
depend on red states to stave them either.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's interesting because in conservatives conservatives, I've had this critique
of conservatism my whole life is that democrats or liberals,
i should say, as an ideology, have a lot of patience,
believe it or not. They are able to see the
forest for the trees. They're able to look decades ahead.
And we've always said that conservatives are typically looking to
(09:34):
get their next meal, and they're very into right now.
Right now conservatives are winning, taking the victory lap and
joining themselves kind of relishing in the dopamine. But people
don't know that this is going on. I think if
you were not here today, certainly Bob and I wouldn't
know this is going on because it's just not in
front of us. The news isn't reporting on it, you
don't see it online, you don't hear about it. But
(09:54):
it's actively going on. If left untreated, what does this
look like as we're in a Trump administration conservatives and
Congress conservatives in the cabinet, even with all that political
weaponry on our side, what does the future look like
if something is done about this?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So the radical revolutionary far left is not get their
power from elections. In fact, they reject the idea of elections.
These are revolutionaries. These are people who literally want to
overthrow the federal government, and they want to do it violently,
and they talk about doing it violently, and yes, they
have the guns in order to be able to do it.
But what we're looking at is that these are groups
that are going to be recruiting heavily from the disaffected
(10:32):
Democratic Party because a lot of Democrats they're not going
to go towards Trump. They didn't vote for Trump, they
don't like Trump. I mean, maybe like you might think
they're crazy for liking Kamala Harris, I certainly do. But
the fact is they're not going to go right because
they're party abandoned them. They're going to go left. And
this is the way that these groups are going to
continue to explode. You look at something like the Revolutionary
(10:52):
Communists of America, which is a group that I track heavily.
People might remember they had a viral video several months
ago of all these communists protesting in Philadelphia and they
were all wearing the red shirts and they had the
communist flags, and about five hundred of them marching down
the street. That's the Revolutionary Communists of America, and they're
reporting that their recruiting numbers are exploding, and and they're
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flat out going there. They They've posted multiple videos on
their YouTube channel in the last couple of weeks flat
out targeting Democrats, saying your party sucks.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
We all know it. Come to us.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
We're gonna we're gonna fix this problem because we can't
rely on these parties to save us. And so I
think we're only going to see these parties growing and
expanding and that should quite frankly, terrify everyone. And I
really want to make sure people understand this. Conservative media
is not reporting on this, and it's not because it's
not happening. It's because they're not reporting on it. This
is stuff that I watch all the time because I
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know what groups to pay attention to, and I know
what they're doing. This is stuff you have someone like us.
There's this guy Stu Stu studio on Twitter. Everyone should
follow him. He's the Stu Stu studio. He posts protest
coverage from the call the college campuses. The campus protests
are ramping up again. To people even know this because
it's not being reported. They're ramping up all over the country.
They're doing exactly the same thing they were doing last spring,
(12:07):
where we're gonna start seeing more communists and socialist groups
in the streets. They're recruiting in the unions, they're recruiting
on college campuses, and I promise you, once summer hits,
we are going to start seeing mass protests because you
know what, it's a little bit cold right now. There's
a lot of snow on the ground, at least where
I live. They're not protesting right now, but they will
be in a couple of months. And people do need
to take this problem seriously. And I wish conservative media
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was reporting on it instead of taking a victory lap,
but they're simply not.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Can I say something, Can you get this to the
FBI at all?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I mean, I put it all out on the internet, Bob,
So I mean it's all like if the FBI wants
this information, like, I have it all. I know exactly
what groups of track, I know exactly what they're doing.
I'll sit down with the FBI any day, as long
as there're as long as I don't have to hire
a lawyer to be interviewed by them. Because that was
my last sit down with the FBI after January sixth.
But uh, but no, I mean, but it's just like
my my listen, I've been trying to spread the word
(13:01):
about this stuff literally for years. You guys know this.
You guys have been great supporters of mine for years.
When I try to, no one listens and no one
takes it seriously, and then everyone is surprised when chaos erupts.
And I'm like, I tried to tell.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You, guys. You know, Carlin, you're right that conservative media
doesn't report on this, and I'll tell you why. And
I don't think this is surprized to you or to
many people. Conservative media it feeds its own monster. And
you know when Trump won, right now, it's very much
like let's put elon Musk on a pedestal doze corruption.
We're winning. We're winning, which is a great message, and
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it's a positive message. And no one wants to be
the naysayer. No one wants to be like, oh, let's
doom post about this. But the media, I guess the
media has got to feed its base otherwise people are
going to turn it off. So the media, to some extent,
is responsible. The conservative influencers are even worse because so
many of them are in it for themselves. How many
events have we been to? And it's just like it's
(13:58):
a me festival. It's not about a bigger causes about
how close to the throne can I get? Can I
get a selfie with Roger Stone? So I could put
it out to my three hundred thousand followers. It is
really like that. We see that happening, and there's a
grifter class that comes with it, that comes with any
political movement. That's not particular one or the other. But
it's important to have these conversations. And while I think
what Trump's done in the last thirty days is remarkable
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and what's being exposed right now should piss off every American.
I say it a thousand times when you look at
your paycheck that withholding you're the victim of a crime.
I mean, you're not paying for roads, you're not paying
for schools, you're not paying for military, you're paying for
truck Schumer to have his vacation home, you're paying for
circumcisions in Peru. They're kicking back ten million dollars to
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whoever authored that bill. So if without accountability, I think
that means nothing. I think people are real excited right
now about what is happening. And it's a very fast
moving administration. You know, the benchmark for presidency used to
be the first hundred days. I think it's now the
first thirty days. Like, holy hew, look at what this
guy is able to do. And also the change of pays.
You know, Joe Biden who was asleep at the wheel,
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and having Trump who's just one day to the next.
Now you say some are coming along with Trump kind
of taking on this whole new persona very different than
he was in twenty seventeen. I'm afraid not really. You know,
new politicians, no matter how bold and brashley are, tend
to be afraid of their own shadow to some degree,
(15:22):
getting real bad advice. I mean, I have my plenty
of critiques over his first administration, but he doesn't have
to win reelection. And this is a guy who's been
shot on national TV. He is out of concerns and
he'll do what he wants. Don't you think that if
we have a repeat of Summer twenty twenty and the
summer twenty twenty five, Trump's invoking the Insurrection Act. He's
putting the military in there. He's like, I don't care
(15:42):
what the media says. Obviously, in twenty twenty, he took
a very stand back approach. Do you think that would
change if we see riots on the streets, You think
that's going to change?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Well, so, okay, I'm of two minds about this. First off,
I hope that Trump does bring out the military. I
hope Trump tries to cry. I believe that we should
be trying to crush the left with as much force
as possible under our boot so that they never want
to get up again. However, what people need to understand
is is that the left wants that confrontation. The left
hates the police. They want to abolish the police, they
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want to get rid of all prisons. This is one
of their number one issues. And if Trump brings out
the military and he brings out the police, the left
are going to be there with video cameras and they're
going to make sure they're getting everything on tape and
they're going to record it. And so if Trump does
do that, he's got to do it very very carefully
because if they get footage of the police or the
military beating up protesters, that is actually going to help them.
(16:35):
That's actually exactly what they want. The left tries to
intentionally provoke people into making them do the things they
want them to do, and they don't care if they
have to sacrifice their body, they don't care if they
have to go to jail. I mean, we've seen this
all over the place, and so I think, you know,
I think that the Trump administration would be really well
advised to hinge into what the radical left is publishing online,
what they're saying online. They do this all in public.
(16:57):
I cover all of it, I archive all of it.
I'm not one of them. I'm not one of the
only people who do this. There are other people who
do it too. But you know, this information is available
out there to anyone who wants to look at it.
And TIFA gave us their battle plan for how they
were going to attack ICE facilities before Trump was even
in office. They published it on their website, but no
one looked at it. And then everyone's surprised when all
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of a sudden, all these protesters are showing up at
ICE facilities to try to prevent these deportations, and we
can look at it and say, right now, they're actually
winning because Trump's deportations are not going as well as
he would want them to go like he's deporting less
people than Joe Biden did. And that's why he just
fired his ice, his ice, you know, I guess person
they put in charge of that. But people need to
(17:38):
know this information is out there, It is in public,
it is freely available. But people need to look at
it and pay attention to it. And I know that
people don't like it. It's stressful, they don't like the left.
It makes them have all sorts of feelings. But I
promise you the feelings you're going to have looking at
it now are going to pale in comparison to when
they actually start executing their plans and they start winning,
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and then you have your real wake up call.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Then you know, one thing I noticed I saw some
videos the other day. So Luigi Mangioni, who infamously murdered
the CEO of United Healthcare, has attained to godlike status
for many on the left, and not even radical protesters,
the radical communists, like young women who think he's some
kind of heroes attractive. There is this kind of foot
(18:23):
seas that you know, mainstream Democrats play with the far left.
You see something like that where a man who's committed
murder and broad daylight. But it's symbolic of a you know,
tearing down Corporate America, this evil insurance company, and then
to hold this guy up, even where mainstream CNN reporters
are like, hey, look, you want to donate to his
GoFundMe I hit hit. Do you think like when you
see things like that and mainstream acceptance of a murderer,
(18:47):
does that give you concern that these far left policies
and far left ideologies really have a good opportunity here
to bleed over into the mainstream.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I cannot emphasize this enough. The far left does not
like the Democratic Party. The far left does not believe
the Democratic Party supports them in any way. They actively
the far left hates the Democratic Party more than they
hate the Republican Party and more than they hate conservatives.
So am I concerned that the Democratic Party are going
to start spouting the policies of the far left.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
They didn't do it throughout the Biden administration. I know
people think that they did because everyone was saying that
the Democrats are communists, but in fact they really didn't,
and the real communists and socialists were complaining about them
the entire time. The real communists and socialists protested the DNC,
they protested Kamala Harris, they didn't vote for her, and
so so am I concerned about that. No, because again,
people really need to understand that the far left does
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not care about winning elections. They don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
About it at all.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
They believe their goal is revolutionary. They want to overthrow
the system. Their goal is to destabilize things and cause
enough pain so that people are in a position to say,
this really sucks. We need a really brand new system here,
and that's when they're going to go in and try
to overthrow the government. They do have people in the military,
they do have people all through the government, although possibly
(20:01):
less now than they did before with so many firings
the layoffs, which I think are a really good thing.
But I think, you know, Luigi is is an interesting case,
right because no one likes insurance companies. Everyone thinks insurance
companies screw people, and so I think he's one of
those kind of cases where it's like, you might not
be a far leftist, but you still probably hate insurance companies,
and you still probably hate insurance CEOs. I think some
(20:22):
of us can be a little maybe maybe not. We're
not gonna shoot anyone in cold blood or anything, but
I think we could be sympathetic to why people might
have an issue with that. But I think what people
need to hear is the people that the far left
you're you're correct, and that they are deifying him, they
are lifting him up, they are calling for the murder
of CEOs. They do this all the time. Blue Sky,
by the way, is fascinating. They literally call for the
(20:43):
murder of CEOs all the time on Blue Sky. This
is one of the places that I track them. And
and so I think that people need to be prepared
that the left is not afraid to be violent. They
do have guns, they train with guns. There are entire
socialist gun clubs, believe it or not, and they are
willing to do what it takes to achieve their goals
in a way that people on the right simply are
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not aware of.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I think when I look at the Luigi Manngionian and
the reason I bring that up is I've seen videos
of his core appearances are just lots and lots of
young women like well put together, you know, you know,
presentable young women, not with the pink hair and the
nose rings like they look like they could be your
next door neighbor who are fascinated by this guy. What
I see when I look at that is sort of
a gateway drug into violent radical socialism, where hey, this guy,
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you know who presents well and he's attractive and he
shot and killed this evil CEO. I can support that
idea because one I like the way this guy looks,
and two I don't dislike what he did. And that's
kind of like putting your foot in the water and going, oh,
I understand this, because because that's a radical left talking boy. Yeah,
United Healthcare. Yet they screw everybody with no one has
a nice thing to say about them, but we're certainly
(21:52):
not going to condone walking up and shooting them in
the street. Then again, on the on the far right,
or not even the far right, just on the right.
Hell I I you know, when a child molester gets
murdered in prison, we're all like, yeah, it's a great thing.
You know, child molusters are terrible people. So many strangles him,
we cell butate the Hey where's this commissary. Hey, let's
let's get him out of jail. So I think maybe
we're both guilty of it to some extent, like is
(22:14):
one murder better than the other. But I see it
as like a stepping stone where people who you know,
forget the Democrat Party for a minute, just people who
look at that and go, I can support what he did.
Oh there's an entire ideology that purports to push for that.
Sign me up, where can I learn more? And sort
of the radicalization, I mean, the ISIS does the same thing. Hey,
(22:34):
you know Israel's doing this, or if you know Europe's
doing this, or the Great Satan America's doing this, or
I don't like what they do, let me learn more
about you. Ah yeah, I can subscribe to that. So
I can see it being a recruiting tool.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, absolutely. And that's what the left does, eric is
they is they try to put as many ideas out
there as possible to just get people to come to
a meeting, get people to come to their book club,
get people to read a paper or watch a video
that maybe they had to and they hadn't seen before.
And that's when they get their hooks in them. I mean,
I firmly believe the far left is a cult. It
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is a fully functional ecosystem in and of itself that
they try to pull people into their cult. And once
you're in their cult, you only talk to other people
in the cult, you only read books from the cult,
you only go to events with people in the cult.
There are radical revolutionary leftist bookstores in every major city
in this country where they hold events, They hold book clubs.
The authors, the socialist activists travel around and they meet
(23:27):
with people. There are people doing this right now. They're
having book tours right now, and so this is how
they recruit, and they're looking for every opportunity again to
reach out to those democrats and those liberals and those
progressives who are disaffected with Democratic Party because they believe
the Democratic Party failed them, and a lot of them do.
And they're saying, hey, guys, come over here with us,
come over, We're a better place for you to be.
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And so this is the real danger in this And
I think that you know, for the last couple of years,
the left has been almost entirely focused on the free
Palestine issue, right, and a lot of and there is
a real Palestinium free movement that's been around for a
long time. But what I want people to understand is
all the so called pro hamas pro Palestine protests on
college campuses, in the street. This is all the radical
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revolutionary far left. As soon as Trump got elected, they
shift gears and they pivoted to a resist Trump stance again.
So this is why you're seeing so many immigration protests
in the street. It was a direct response to what
Trump was doing. This is one of the first issues
they started organizing around. You have things like the Party
of Socialism and Liberation, the People's Forum in New York
(24:31):
City that are actually funded by like new USAID type things,
and I've proven that on my Twitter I shared that
a couple weeks ago. But they are extremely coordinated. They
have weekly meetings, they have scheduled protests that are taking
place in New York City. But what we're gonna start
seeing again, and this is where it starts to get
really scary, is we're going to start seeing queer and
(24:53):
gender activism rise up again. It's really been very very
quiet on that front for the last couple of years.
But with Trump's executive borders around gender and around getting
this ideology out of school, which are good, those are
actually positive things, You're really pissing off the queer activists
and that is a whole other level of dystopia that
people are completely unprepared for, and we're talking about they
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want to abolish all gender, they want to abolish the
nuclear family, they want to get rid of all parental rights.
These are the fat studies people, These are the disability
justice people. These are the really the crazy looking people
that you might see at the protests. And so people
need to buckle up and get ready because just because
Trump won, and just because Trump is doing good, this
does not mean that this threat has gone away. And
(25:40):
in fact, I think this threat is only going to
get more powerful.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I agree, because you know, they're certainly going to
use this as a point of grievance upon which to
recruit other people and disaffected Democrats too. I mean, they
may hate the Democrat Party. They're looking at people because
I think I think one of the chief mistakes that
the Democrats have made, and just from a political science perspective,
I really wish we had a viable, reasonable, common sense
(26:07):
Democrat party because then we'd have some opposition. It would
strengthen our ideas, it would challenge our ideas, you know,
steal strength and steal. We don't have that right now,
We're one party state because the Democrats completely fell apart.
They've abandoned their principles. I don't think they know which
direction they're going. They have no viable candidates for twenty
twenty eight and they haven't done that deep dive into
(26:28):
their policies and done well. How did we lose? How
did we go from having the White House? How did
we go that Trump won again when our whole position
was running against this guy? What did we do wrong?
And from at least people I've spoken to, and I'm
sure you're the same way. The Dems who may hate
Donald Trump, who I can't stand the guy turned off
the TV when he's on, But all the transgender, all
the DEI, all the social stuff. I couldn't do it anymore.
(26:51):
I went into the polling booth, I held my nose.
I voted for Trump. Heard that from a ton of people,
and I think or they didn't vote, they just weren't
motivated to vote for Kamala Harris. So you know, I
can see that being a recruiting tool, certainly for the
far left. That being said, I mean, conservatives are are
principal people. They're very well armed people. I don't know
(27:14):
if they're just going to sit back and go like,
oh yeah, okay, you guys, go ahead and burn our
businesses down. I think I hope it doesn't happen at all.
I hope no one's right or wrong. I just shope
it doesn't happen. But I think if you see a
repeat of summer of twenty twenty in the summer of
twenty twenty five, I think we're a very different country
right now. I think you'd see I think it would
be bad for the people that came out and did that.
I really think they underestimate the right.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with that. I don't
think conservatives would do anything. I think they sit at
home on their on their couch watching the football game.
I don't think they're getting out their guns. I don't
think they're going into the streets and listen. I would
love to be wrong about this, but everything that I've
seen shows me that the conservative right has an absolute
disinterest in being involved in fighting back against the left.
(27:58):
And you know, Eric, I've I've been in this game
for a long time now. I've been trying to get
conservatives to do something for literally years. I can't get
them to sit down and watch a twenty minute video
of a literal communist telling them about their plans. Do
I think that conservative is going to pick up their
gun and go out into the street. No, I don't,
And so it's kind of like, you know, I mean,
people really do need to take this seriously, and you
(28:20):
don't want to take it seriously. Once it's too late,
you need to take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I firmly believe, and I've been. I spend six days
a week watching the radical revolutionary far LAPT. I track
all their major groups, I track all their major activists.
I know exactly what they're saying, exactly what they're doing.
I firmly believe we are about ten to fifteen years
away from a real communist overthrow of our federal government,
simply because most people are completely disinterested in what's actually
(28:44):
going on. The media is not covering it, people are
not informed. A lot of conservative influencers just flat out
lie to their audience about what's going on. They cherry
pick things, they take it out of context, they blow
it up into something. It doesn't mean people need to
start hinging back into reality. I think there is a
possibility of beating the far left and to like truly
(29:05):
regain the country. But it's gonna require more than Trump
getting elected and issuing a couple executive orders. And so again,
while all this stuff is good, and I'm not gonna
say a lot of things Trump isn't doing are good,
they are good, it's not enough. The Left have been
brewing in this country for one hundred years. They've been
playing the same playbook for one hundred years. It doesn't
stop within thirty days.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
What can we do to help?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Because, yeah, the very best thing that people can do,
and this is the answer that people don't like me
to give, Bob, is that people need to start paying
attention to what the left is doing. And most importantly,
and what I spend most of my time doing is
teaching people the language of the left, because the left
speaks a completely different language than we do. It might
sound like English, but it is not English. I to
(29:50):
call it socialists. It is a completely It's like it's
like if you're speaking French or Chinese or Russian. It
is a different language. And so people need to sit
down and actually learn the la wuhage of the left,
learn what they mean by their ideas, learn what their
actual ideas are, learn what their actual grievances are. I
do this six days a week on my YouTube channel.
People can find it on YouTube bottom on Rumble. I'm
(30:11):
on X Carlin Borsenko. My name is pretty unique, so
you can find me pretty easily. But but you know,
sit down and actually listen to what the left is saying.
I have clips for days of actual socialists and communists
telling us what they believe and what they're actually doing.
And people need to start learning. And so that's what
you can do. You can learn what they're doing, you
(30:32):
can learn how to explain it simply and easily to
other people. And then you go out there and you say, hey,
we're not in the position that we might think we're in.
We need to pay attention to this, even if it's
just being extra vigilant, like like, we all need to
to get on board with the fact that we actually
haven't won. We want a little minor skirmish in a
(30:53):
hundred year war. That skirmish is important, but the war
is a much bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
War is ongoing, and the number one war correspondent is
here on the show, Carlin. You got a new book
coming out, tell us about it.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Actually it came out this week. It's called A Brief
History of Racism. And this is a fun little project
I did where I actually went back and I said,
who invented the term racism? What did it mean at
the very beginning? Who has eld who has changed the
definition of racism over time? And so I went back
to the invention of racism in nineteen oh two and
I said, here's where it started, and here's how it evolved.
(31:29):
And it actually goes all the way up to present day.
And it includes stuff about Trump's executive orders and how
that plays into it as well. So that is available
on Amazon and paperback and kindle right now. And I'm
going to be announcing another book on my show tonight
Socialism Saturday, and I think you guys are gonna love it.
I'm not gonna let the cat out of the bag yet,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna send it to you once
(31:50):
I officially announced it. You guys are gonna love this book.
And let's just say, we're doing some debunking of leftist
ideas in the new book. So it's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I love it. Carlin's first book is proudly on my bookshelf. Carlon.
We love having you on. Thank you for bringing to
light that which was in the dark and that which
you know prior to thirty minutes ago we had no
idea about. And I think voices like yours are important.
Enjoy being independent and politically homeless and staying true to
your craft. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
See that's what we need. We need ideas that challenge
our own I don't want to be the mega echo chamber.
As much as I'm a champion for our cause, I
don't want us to ever get complacent. So I love
having her on. I disagree on the point that I well, okay,
I agree and disagree. If riots break out in the
summer twenty twenty five, if it's in the city, yeah,
(32:46):
no one's getting up to go protect cities. If it
If it trickles over into rural America or in the suburbs,
I don't think it's going to end well for the
people that are perpetrating that violence. I think if you
own a business this time around, you're going to be
sitting in your little retail shop with a gun or
I don't know, adorable with a gun. We haven't been
(33:07):
thinking like that because it just feels like there's so
much winning. But you know, she's right, there's a whole
element in this country, as non mainstream as they may be,
that is using this as a recruiting opportunity to say, hey,
oh my god, evil Trump, the Democrats failed us. And
you know, just keep your head on a swivel. You'll
be be vigilant. But again, I'll tell you, and I
want to close on this the work that Trump has
(33:29):
done Department of Governmental Efficiency, the doge, Elon Musk, we
got cash, betel we got the cabinet in I couldn't
be happier where we are. My only caveat is exposure
is not enough. But we got to have accountability. And
I love the fact that Elon Musk is talking about,
(33:51):
like we are going to go after people. If you
came into office and you don't have family money or
independent wealth or some other legitimate source of income, and
you're now worth thirty forty fifty dollars, We're going to
get to the bottom of it real quick. And look
that one look at an a look at a lot
of people, and you know, not just Democrats, plenty of Republicans.
To Lindsey Graham, look at Mitch McConnell, something else. It
(34:13):
would be really nice if the FBI pivoted and started
going after these people that she was just talking about
instead of I don't know, Catholic churches and people that
protest at school boards.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
It seems like that would be a good pivot for camp.
Well stand by because it's a brand new FBI. You know,
new new sheriff in town. It's gonna be brand new.
You're you're not going to see an FBI that's targeting
people for what they say on their podcast and what
they post. You're not going to have that anymore. This
is a new era, and I hope that we can
materialize greatly and just you know, continue going forward and
(34:46):
doing what you know, what Carlin's saying is is keep
an eye on what the far left is doing. Understand
that there are enemies in the midst and there are
people that don't like what Trump is doing in the
direction our country is going. But you know, again, I
think that this is a time where the reason we
have a political shift in this country is we had
a massive cultural shift and that was by and large
a wholesale rejection of everything the left has stood for
(35:08):
for the last five to ten years, and I do
think that culture coming back. Obviously politics being downhill from that.
It just doesn't appeal to people the same way. And
again not that it ever appealed to people, but you
don't have the corporate backing and the pressure on people
to bend the knee, and you better support DII initiatives.
You better put up your pride flag or we're gonna
(35:29):
shut your business down. You don't see that. I almost
see the idea of cancel culture as being something of
the past. It doesn't really exist anymore. You can kind
of say what you want, We're not saying the same
retribution being sought after people who who go against the
liberal ideology. I'm good guys. With that being said, thank
(35:50):
you all for tuning in. Please make sure to hit
us up on the Patreon patron dot com slash Bob
and Eric. Everything you give helps you continue to come
to you every week, and we will come to you
every week as well as we can. Thank you, Thank you,
Thank you enjoying the rest of your weekend, and we
will see you next time. Thank you guys. Take care. Yeah,
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I keep Americ. Could you keep America.
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