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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Keep America.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You keep America.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We'll keep amorn.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Congray a keeper mad jeep America?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Well keeper men Con Gray.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ah keeper magic. Can you jeep America?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Well? Japer Mevern Cocree. Welcome to the Bob and Eric
Stave America Podcast. My name Bob Done, and my name
is Eric Patini. Thank you all for tuning in. It's
great to be here on another Saturday. Feels like an
endless stream of wins. Bob, I don't know about you.
Just feels like this is the Trump we always needed.
(00:44):
Twenty sixteen, he was hampered by a Congress that didn't
support him. Twenty twenty, he had the biggest election interference
of our lifetime against him. And now he's a guy
who's been indicted, impeached, investigated, and shot and is just
completely out of cares in the world and doesn't have
to win reelection, which is such a beautiful thing. I
(01:07):
think the number one story this week and number one
thing on everybody's minds is what's going on with Department
of Governmental Efficiency DOGE and discovering the massive malfeasance and
improper spending of our tax dollars with USA. Have you
had a chance to take a look at this and
see exactly what our government spending our tax dollars on
(01:29):
what they've released. Yeah, I mean eighty four million to
Chilsea Clinton and how about big balls. You know, here's
the thing. You got to realize that it took five
hundred and thirty five bureaucrats, five hundred thirty five people
who cannot hold the job in the private sector, five
hundred and thirty five people who are just incompetent losers
(01:50):
who spend their lives in government, and it's going to
be a handful of very smart private sector businessmen who
are able to undo all of this. The biggest issue
that we're facing right now, above anything, is the way
that we're spending our money. And guys like you and
I are taxed to death. We work hard, you have
a good year. IRS is going to get their pound
(02:11):
of flesh. So we're paying out the nose to the IRS.
We're paying twenty five, sometimes more percentage of our income
to the government for them to do. What are they
building roads? Are they securing the border? Is the military
ready for battle?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But if you want to do an LGBT puppet show
in Peru, we'll give you a million and a half.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
All the kickbacks are going to come out too. And
I just think probably ninety five percent of politicians are
getting kicked back. I mean twenty million for a puppet
show in Iraq, they probably sell a couple hundred grand
of that they kick back and that's traceable.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well here's the thing, So, yeah, we look at guys
in Congress. We look at these guys are in government
and who end up going in in like nineteen eighty five,
and by twenty ten they're worth one hundred million dollars
and they're making one hundred back then they weren't making
one to seventy or they're making one hundred something. While
that's a fine living, you're not going to amass a
fortune of thirty forty fifty million dollars making that a year.
(03:07):
And now we see obviously Nancy Pelosi being the prime
example with insider trading. We'll see how that works. But
what we're also seeing is these pet projects USA. Does
it cost a million five to put on a puppet
show in Ireland or to create a pamphlet on transgender
rights in Afghanistan? No, probably costs fifteen dollars at Kinko's
(03:29):
where's the rest of that money going? That's the million
dollar question. Where's the rest of that money going? It
is going back in the pockets of the congressmen and
women who check the box and sign off on that
appropriation kickbacks campaign donations.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
If Biden got twenty Shell companies, everybody's got Shell companies.
Look at AMSC she came in broke and I think
she's worth like thirty million bucks. Now, it's all just
it's going to be hard to untangle. They've made it hard.
But I'm sure big balls can figure it out.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I'm sure they can. But you know what's crazy is
that this is only week two and this is only
a handful of organization State Department, USAID. Believe me, there's
going to be more. What happens when they audit the FED,
what happens when they audit the irs? What are they
going to find? It's going to be unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I think they stuck with the USA just so we
could all, you know, take it in because if it
all splashed out, someone.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Like my mom would have an nervous breakdown.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, but that's just one of the more egregious examples.
But you know, imagine it's like the Iceberg hypothesis. It's
just a little bit of that. Corruption is what we're seeing,
and so much of.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
It is underneath.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You know, had had Kamala Harris won the election, we'd
have no idea that any of this is happening. And
it's been going on for so long through Republican and
Democrat presidents. The big question I think on everybody's mind
is we shut it down. But then what happens to
our tax system once we eliminate that waste? Because that's
our money, that's our investment in our Republican We are
(04:58):
not getting a return on our money. When does that
money come back to us, the people that pay the taxes,
the people that pay for these pet projects, When the
pet projects are no longer there, when does that money
come back our way?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I don't see it coming back.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I see him killing his federal income tax in six months,
twelve months, once the terif's kick in and start selling oil.
He stated that's his goal.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Do you think that, Okay, I want to give credit
where credit is due. He's done an amazing job so far,
but that looks like, I mean, he can't unilaterally do that.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, he's gonna have to Uh, Congress has to get involved.
You know, the sixteen Amendment, they're gonna have to repeal that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So what what do you think? And I'm fully on
board with you, but just instead of talking about it
and thinking about a practical solution, what would do you
think they could do? They could go to a flat tax,
a consumption based tax, because you know, paying thirty two
percent tax is just it's not feasible. Because the way
you have to look at our tax system is looking
at the very poor and the very rich. There's a
(05:55):
big swath people in between. If you're very poor, you
pay nothing. You're not you don't have to worry abot
tax burden. If you're an Elon Musk, a two hundred
million dollar tax bill doesn't hurt. You don't even feel that.
You know, Mark Cuban, He's I can pay two hundred
and fifty million in taxes a year.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
He's not gonna feel that.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He's a billionaire. Everybody in between, everybody in between, that
big swath from above the poverty line to not quite
a super wealthy guy, you're gonna feel it. If you
pay one hundred thousand dollars in taxes, you bring it
home four five hundred thousand a year. You know what, Yeah,
you're gonna feel that one hundred thousand dollars. Some people,
ignorant people will go, oh, you're making four hundred thousand,
(06:31):
You're making five hundred thousand. That for a family is
not what it was fifteen twenty years ago. I'm sure
you're living very nicely, and I'm sure you have some luxuries,
but you're not gonna be able to write a check
for one hundred thousand dollars and not feel the pain
of that.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He's talked about it over and over again in eighteen ninety.
With terriffs, there's no income tax, so it's not gonna
be a flat tax. It's gonna be no tax. And
with tariffs in the sale of our oil, it's gonna
cover He's fired, was it ninety eight percent of the
people at USAD?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I think Marco a City wants two hundred and seventy
four of them.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
If he fires ninety percent of the government, it's not
going to take a whole lot of money to run
the government.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That's true. I was thinking about that. I mean, look
at you know, when Elon Musk acquired Twitter, he fired
what seventy five percent of the workforce, eighty percent of
the workforce. And look how it's operating. It is not
only do they have enough money to pay content creators
ad share, but they are also the number one news
source in the world. So they're doing something right. They're
running more profitably, and they're running more efficiently than ever before.
(07:31):
Our government needs to run that. We've said that for
the last twenty thirty forty years that we need to
run our country like a business. And I think for
the first time we really are in the sense of
bringing in like a slash and burn CEO like Donald
Trump and going this isn't going to cut it. It's
a very different Trump than we saw our in the
first term. Do you think that's just boldness? Do you
(07:52):
think he's got a chip on his shoulder? Do you
think it's experienced? What would you attribute the difference between
twenty seventeen Trump and twenty twenty five Trump experience.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
He knows delay on the land, he knows what players
are willing to play and which ones are going to
backstab him. He sat back for four years and studied it.
I think really just experienced in the fact that he's
not going to have another election he's like, screw it.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I think that's part of it. I think in twenty seventeen,
I think he was a political novice. He's got to
learn to navigate these waters. I also think he had
to think about getting re elected, which I think for
Republicans and Democrats alike. And I know there's people out
there that want Trump to be the emperor forever. And
while that sounds good theory, we don't want to set
that precedent. How would you feel about no re election
(08:41):
for any elected office? Give the president a longer term,
give congressman a longer term, give centers a longer term,
but no reelection because think about how effective politicians can
be when they don't have to think about kissing the
public's ass or appeasing their donors or raising money. So
you were saying, like eight years for three well would
(09:03):
I would say? I would say the president should have
one eight year term. I think eight years is good.
Give them their reelection up front. One eight year term.
Congress every two years is not feasible because you're constantly
campaigning and you're constantly raising money. I think a congressman
should have a one to five year spot. That's it. Senators.
(09:23):
Seeing GI have senators one ten year spot. That's it.
No reelection, no reelection whatsoever. You do at one time
obviously have the ability to be recalled. They're the checks
and balances that we put on them. But not having
to appease donors and not having to constantly think about
how am I going to get reelected? We're going to
have a better government because you're gonna have gays like
Donald Trump who come in there and go, I got
(09:45):
my agenda and I'm putting it forth. And I think,
to touch on what we were talking about a minute ago,
is it's not just the age and experience and having
learned to navigate the waters of DC. I think he's
a guy with a massive chip on his shoulder. I
think he has been through hell. They've put him through trial,
they've convicted him, they've arrested him, they put that monk shot,
They've searched his house, they've searched his wife's underwear drawer.
(10:06):
They've put him through the Russia Gates scandal, too, impeachments,
and shot him in the face on national TV. This
is a guy who is it's like he's come back
from the dead and he wants revenge on the people
who tried to kill him. You make a good argument.
He is ego driven. So yeah, you got that. Yeah,
(10:27):
he is Leonardo DiCaprio and The Revenant. He has been
left for dead, he has been mauled by a bear.
He crawled on his belly two hundred miles to get
the guy who put him in that situation. That's one
hundred that I watched that movie. I love that movie.
I watched that movie and I'm like, that is the
perfect metaphor for Trump. That's exactly why he's coming in there.
And first of all, you know, notwithstanding the fact that
(10:48):
he's seventy eight years old and just NonStop. He's in
California in the morning, he's in North Carolina at night.
He has not stopped moving once. I think this is
a guy with tremendous ego, which you have to have
at that level of the game. I don't care who
you are. And that's and that's part of Trump's brand,
and that's part of his charm. He's you know, there
are people that are arrogant, that are obnoxious, and there
(11:10):
are people that are so arrogant, but they're what they have,
like they they can back up the talk with the walk,
So it's an it becomes an endearing quality. Take like
a real flashy athlete who's you know, like a Dion
Sanders or something like that, who's just full of himself,
but he backs it up on the field. So when
you have someone who's got a lot of bravado but
(11:32):
they're also just a stone cold killer, we give him
a pass on that because you'vend it's been you're walking
around bragging when you have no string of accomplishments. That's
what it becomes an annoying trait in somebody. But he
doesn't brag.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
He never has.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He brags all the time.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Come on, he.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Does a lot of stuff from people that he's never
told people about.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Oh he's a he's a genuinely good human being and
he's done a lot for people and he's very interest
but oh, I mean, he's got the biggest ego on
the planet and at that level of the game, you
can and it's endearing quality for him. But that's what
drives him. Ego is what drives him when he goes
and he builds, you know of fifty foot skyscraper, fifty
(12:15):
story skyscraper and puts Trump and gold on it. That's
a it's a shrine to himself, his whole branding. This
is a guy who's got a sense of himself unlike
anything we mere mortals can comprehend. But that's what makes
him great. Think about greatness. Just break it down in
terms of your Julius Caesar's, your Genghis Khan's, You're Alexander
(12:36):
the Great. They were all motivated by personal glory, glories
of a motivator. We're animals, Bob, We are self interested.
And if you can do something to feed that hunger,
and his hunger is himself and it makes him great.
And the Democrats, the deep state, the political establishment did
(12:57):
the worst thing you can do strategically to some with
a massive ego is you went after him the way
you did because you tried to paint him as a loser.
You tried to lock him up, you tried to take
that away from him, and you only made him stronger.
They probably would have been better suited just to leave
him alone. They might they if they left him alone
and Trump didn't dominate the headlines for four years with
(13:18):
arrests and indictments and trials and getting shot, maybe they
would have had a chance. I don't know now. They
put the worst possible candidate they could put. And I
want to get to the sixty minutes thing in a minute.
But they don't realize that Trump is a monster of
their own creation. He is the Frankenstein's monster. They built him,
they created him, and now he has turned on him.
(13:40):
He is ai that has now become sentient and is
turned on its creator. And I frankly am here for it.
And for all the liberals who get up in my
business and all the family members and you know, former associates,
how can you support this guy? Is this what you
voted for? You're damn right. I did every thing about this.
(14:01):
This is unequivocally, unambiguously what I voted for. I'll have
it when I went to the polling place on November
fifth and I checked that box. This is what I
had in mind.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, burn it down, no question.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And it is a system that absolutely needs to be
burnt down. I want to move on now to let's
talk a little bit about sixty minutes. So we remember
sixty minutes did an interview of Kamala Harris and they
edited the crap out of it. Have you seen the
unedited video? Out there.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I can't watch it. I'm sorry, I could just imagine,
do you know.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I know it's cringey, I know it's hard to watch,
but the word salads. I mean, look, the media would
have ripped apart the fact that this major news organization
like Splice and edited it so they took like a
forty five second run on nonsensical response and turned it
into like a seven second like this is what we're
going to do, when really she said, what we're talking
about are creating the plans that are going to set
in a motion the things we need to do. They're
(14:59):
ultimately going to have results that we need to have,
like something like that, where she's just doing a very
typical word salad and Trump, I love him man, the
revenge he takes away Joe Biden's security clearance. He's taking
Obama's security well, not security well is it security clearance
or I guess it is security clearance because they can't
have security briefings anymore. It's like there's no reason for
(15:20):
them to have security briefings, which I agreeably they did
the same thing to Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Did you do do Obama? Because I just heard Biden.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I heard he's talking about doing it to Obama. I
don't know if that's changed. I mean, the news cycle
is evolving so quickly. He did do it to Biden.
He basically said that there's no reason for this guy
to have it, and you involve, but you're fired. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I love it, man. This is great, this is this
is absolutely what we voted for. So the Democrats. It's
so funny the Democrats coming out and hear a lot
of them say we're going to fight him in the streets.
And it doesn't have the same impact it had in
twenty twenty. The resistance as we knew it, it used
to be politically powerful and they used to have a
(15:59):
lot more influence on society. But bo we talked about
this at twenty nineteen. We've talked about the multi techacle beast,
that is the Democrat Party that a hand in academia,
hand in entertainment, a hand here, a hand in media.
I feel like they weren't just defeated politically. I feel
like they were defeated across the board. I feel like
they were defeated culturally, they were defeated economically, they were
(16:20):
defeated on technology. All the tech companies are they're Trump's
friends now. Your Elon Musks and your Tim Cook and
Jeff Bezos, all those guys Zuckerberg are all with Trump now.
So I look at the Democrats. Early, the Democrats were defeated.
I think it's more of a conquest. I think they
(16:41):
are a conquered people, and they can scream and shout
all they want, but their resistance is futile at this point.
I don't think they have the ability. I don't think
they have the machine in place anymore to do what
they've done in the past, like riots.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
They can't do with it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well, that was all USAID money, So if we take
the USA money away, they can't riot anymore. I mean,
where do you think the Democrats go from here? How
can they regroup and become a viable option again, because
we do need an opposition party. It keeps us accountable
and it keeps the issues fresh. But right now we're
really it's kind of like we're running a race and
(17:16):
nobody's challenging us.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I don't think they're coming back for a good fifteen
twenty years because they're just the guy at CNN that
the only one that makes sense. The twenty eighty rule,
the Democrats go for the twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Trump goes for the eighty, you know, the eighty twenty
year old. They're just.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Everything they support is not smad, and until they come
back to the center, I think they're screwed for a
couple of decades.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I think, I think I don't know if I want
to say for the next decade. That's because the thing is,
we got to remember in politics, you know, a day,
a month, a year. I mean, these are an eternity.
So I don't know if I could speak to a decade.
I think if we're looking if the first thing we
want to look to is the midterms, I think the
midterms have I everything continues on the trajectory. It's one
(18:01):
right now. I think we keep the House, we keep
the Senate because people buying large or happy with the
way things are going, they don't want to change that. Historically,
that's not true. There may be a changing in the
garden one of the houses, but I don't see that
happening just yet. Obviously, we're more vulnerable in the House
than in the Senate. The Senate, we have a good lead,
but some of these folks might be getting primaried. Your
Susan Collins, you're Murkowski's who are in Lindsey Graham? I
(18:24):
hope to god is getting primary. We need to get
rid of those of Mitch McConnell. I don't think he's
running again in twenty twenty six. I think he's done,
but you obviously need some good America First Conservatives in there.
But moving on to twenty twenty eight, obviously the Democrats
have to put up a candidate. They're not going with
Harris again. They can't and news comes out he burned
himself up. No, yeah, no pun intended. But here's the
(18:46):
funny thing, Bob. The Democrat Party just had. They have
a new chairperson and newvice share, both white males, and
you know that four years ago that would have been
the cardinal's sin. Do you think the Democrats are recognizing
the changing of the tide and trying to push away
from the identity politics.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
No, I think they're dumb asses, and someone needs to
tell them to get the hell out asking Maxine Water
shut the hell up. Anybody that's yelling about USA is
getting kickbacks and they're going to get caught.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
By the way, twenty six the same act already passed
the House.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
They need to send it to the Senate and that's
one day voting paper ballots, voter ID that Democrats.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Are going to get white on twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I hope so. And it's a little early to forecast that,
But I think you're right. But I think the bigger
issue is that politics aside and politics being downhill from culture.
Our culture has undergone a massive shift in the last
twelve months twenty nineteen, transgender ideology, wokeness. You know, this
(19:48):
time five years ago, we were on the verge of
COVID six months from now. Five years ago, the country
was on fire. You had Congress, you had FBI taking
a knee, you had children's programming having BLM advertisements. Everybody
had to sit there and watch while your country was
just being ravaged by this cancer called wokeness. There was
a massive pushback on that. Culturally. I do think we
(20:10):
have come back. I think we talked about that from
the first show we ever did one day, that cultural
pensylum is going to come back the other way, and
it certainly did that. It did. My issue now is
do Democrats recognize that, do they have their finger on
the pulse, and are they adjusting their platform accordingly? Because
there are plenty of Democrats, a significant number of them,
who don't want to see two hundred pounds seventeen year
(20:33):
old boys playing on their daughters soccer team, who do
not want their teachers to tell their eight year old
tomboy daughter like, hey, maybe you're a boy, and let's
go see the guidance counselor, and we don't have to
tell your parents about that. I think even your most
hope to die liberal parents are reasonable people by and
large outside of your California and San Francisco and New
(20:53):
York outliers. I just don't see them learning from their mistakes.
It's too stupid.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, like you said, with Trump, what they did
to him the last four years totally backfired. It's a
common sense would have said, don't put his picture.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
On a.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
When he got arrested. Oh my god, it was so stupid.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So many black people were like, I can relate to
him now. Well, but I remember them doing that and
putting that picture out there and going haha, we got him.
And I said, you just created the most iconic image
of the.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Twenty first century.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You did, You just created the most iconic image of
the twenty first century. And when I said earlier in
the show that Donald Trump is the monster of the
Democrat's own creation, that's exactly it. Doing these things and
thinking you're going to win. You're gonna beat this guy.
And if I could step back and give you an
unbiased political opinion without regard to who I vote for,
(21:51):
the only way to beat someone with the ego of
Trump is to ignore them, making someone irrelevant by not
giving them a That's how you destroy an ego, to
create a martyr out of somebody, to say, look at
this mugshot the felon and it's just the most badass image.
I mean, it's like the chay Gavera of the twenty
(22:12):
first century, that famous image and the type for Trump
really started to turn. Because this was back in twenty
twenty two and there was a lot of talk about DeSantis.
He was getting a lot of momentum. People were getting
a little bit of Trump fatigue, going how can this
guy do it? And then all of a sudden, you
create a folk hero out of them, and it reinvigorated
his movement the likes of which we had not seen before.
(22:34):
I think people were more enthusiastic and more passionate about him.
In the latter part of Biden's administration, then maybe they
had been all the way through his first administration where
we saw him as we saw it as a personal
attack on.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Us when they raided his house and went through his
wife's underw he jorder. That's I believe when Tucker Collegson
came on board, and a whole lot of other people too, Yeah,
that's it's.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Just a bridge too far.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I think.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Obviously the first impeachment was complete garbage. And as we
learn more and more about Hunter's laptop and what Joe
Biden was doing and that he was getting these kickbacks
from his son's businesses in Ukraine, we know that everything
that Trump investigated with Ukraine had he had the ability.
He had not only the ability, he had a responsibility
(23:20):
as the basically the chief law enforcement entity of this country.
Everything stops with him, and he had every right to
do that. And he said, hey, you know Republicans like
Mitt Romney who casting votes to impeach him on that,
And then you have the of the January sixth crap,
and you have all the criminal cases that come after that,
and you just create someone who is absolutely getting beat down,
(23:45):
and so many people would break and the fact that
he can come back as strong as he can, stronger
than ever before. I mean, Bob, that's that's so remarkable
that that could happen. Credits God, ha ye, our song
just can just came in the middle. Sorry guys, no,
(24:07):
but he The way that he could come back from
that was I don't know too many human beings on
this planet that could withstand that.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
No.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I couldn't that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I couldn't withstand a tenth of that. I mean, he
went through four criminal cases, two impeachments, investigated his whole
first term shot in the I mean, it's it is otherworldly.
I think generations that come after us are going to
study Trump.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
And go, what what was it?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I mean, scientists when when when he passes, scientists need
to like look at his brain and go, what is it?
What is it? How can we harness that gene and
create and put that into others because imagine how great
we would be if everyone had that level of drive.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
If he gets through to the federal income tax. I
think he's going on Mount rushmore personally.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, you know, look whether whether that happens or not.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I think that he's done so much and he's doing
so much, and he's he's being the leader we always
wanted him to be, and and just governing the way
that we have been fantasizing about for years and years,
and just taking that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Sort of justice to this bloated, inefficient blob that we
call the federal government that takes our money under threat
of imprisonment and spends it in ways that in no
way benefit you. Were high and for that reason we
are grateful. I think it's called taxation without representative Well, okay,
(25:41):
that's that's the that's one way to put it. I
call it armed robbery. It really is income taxes armed robbery.
If I threaten you with taking your liberty away, have
the ability to point a firearm at you, to seize
your property unless you give me money, I'd go to
prison for that. In Congress, you get reelected for that.
So that the irs, these entities, they have to be
(26:07):
dealt with one at a time in USAID. It's crazy
to think that's just one. That's just one of how many.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Oh my god, you didn't bring up when we audit
the Federal Reserve because it all starts there.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It all starts there. But I want to I want
to take a step further, I think that every sitting
member of Congress should be subject to an audit. I
think for transparency purposes, everyone should say, hey, look, if
you're making your money. Look if you want to write
a book, you want to do speaking engagements. Be my guest.
I'm a capitalist, I'm an opportunist. If you're in Congress
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and you want to go give a twenty five thousand
dollars speech to some group at lunch, that doesn't affect me.
Go make your money. It's when you're using that office
to say I'm going to take taxpayer money. Hey, organization
in Afghanistan, whatever, you want to make money, I want
to make money. No. But here's the thing, liberals, nobody
is motivated by altruism. Nobody's sitting there going we need
(27:02):
to help the LGBT community. We're gonna go put on
a play for them. No, they're going, how can we
builk the American tax system? How can we profit off
this incompetent, bloated bureaucracy. How can we make money? Oh,
we'll put it down on paper. We're gonna, you know,
make a you know, we're going to feed a village,
or we're going to create a water system that is
(27:23):
going to cost twenty five thousand to build. But we're
going to build the American people twenty five million. And you,
congress person, you're going to put it into the spending bill,
and if you can get it past, we're going to
kick you back x amount. You know, that's how you
guys get rich.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
There's precedent for what you're wanting to do.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
They that's why Donald Trump let his taxes go all
the way up to the Supreme Court. So and they
went after they got the taxes all his businesses. So
another precedent that you can do that to any politician.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
God Willing, I think, I think it's a it's long
past time to do that. But that being said, we
were supposed to have a guest today, had to cancel
last minute. He said he can't speak. I can't recall
what issue he was going to talk about, but he said,
I can't speak about it because I might get sued.
So always interesting to have guests who are under threat
of lawsuit coming on the show. But I certainly would
(28:14):
advise if you know, I don't want you to get
suit of ruals coming on the show. It's funny though
our show Bob and Eric Save America has made it
into the Annals of History and Alex Shepherd are friend.
Alex Shepherd's January sixth sentencing the episode of our show
that he came on, there were screenshots in his sensing
memorandum from the US Department of Justice because he was
(28:35):
on there talking, you know about January sixth, and he
doesn't have any remre he's on this right wing podcast,
and I laugh, Man, that's so funny, that's so funny.
But happy it said, any parting words coming up on
about the thirty minute mark.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I can't imagine week three. Man, It's been a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's been incredible. And Trump and his administration are doing
a great job. Just whittled down the size of the
US government, make us lean, mean efficient, and again, you know,
you win the culture, you win the politics. I think
so much of this is a cultural win of people
sick and tired. I'll give you one example. Just I
(29:15):
guess on my small scale speaking to people who voted
for Trump, who were not even Trump supporters or don't
even necessarily like the guy lifelong Democrats, that the resounding
issue that I got from all them was the trans stuff.
They all said, They all said, Look, I'm a Democrat.
I'm a Union guy. You know, I don't like Donald Trump.
I voted for Biden, I voted for Clinton, but I
(29:36):
voted for Trump this time run because the trans stuff.
So many, so many lifelong Democrats have told me that.
So I think moreover, what we're looking at is not
just a political win, but a cultural win where we
just want to go back to common sense. Nobody's saying
you can't be transgender. I don't care who other people.
You want to tuck your sack back and say, I'm
a you know, my name is Deborah, Deborah, Go enjoy
(29:58):
your Saturday. Just don't impart that my impressionable children, and
don't shove it down my throat. Every week, go big balls,
Go big balls, guys, Thanks for tuning in. We'll see
you next week. God keep Americaun, you keep America. We'll
keep americ Gray.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Keep Americaun, You keep America, We'll keep America. Could be
Keep America.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You keep America.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We'll keep amorn.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Congray a keeper mad jeep America?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Well keeper men Con Gray.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ah keeper magic. Can you jeep America?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Well? Japer Mevern Cocree. Welcome to the Bob and Eric
Stave America Podcast. My name Bob Done, and my name
is Eric Patini. Thank you all for tuning in. It's
great to be here on another Saturday. Feels like an
endless stream of wins. Bob, I don't know about you.
Just feels like this is the Trump we always needed.
(00:44):
Twenty sixteen, he was hampered by a Congress that didn't
support him. Twenty twenty, he had the biggest election interference
of our lifetime against him. And now he's a guy
who's been indicted, impeached, investigated, and shot and is just
completely out of cares in the world and doesn't have
to win reelection, which is such a beautiful thing. I
(01:07):
think the number one story this week and number one
thing on everybody's minds is what's going on with Department
of Governmental Efficiency DOGE and discovering the massive malfeasance and
improper spending of our tax dollars with USA. Have you
had a chance to take a look at this and
see exactly what our government spending our tax dollars on
(01:29):
what they've released. Yeah, I mean eighty four million to
Chilsea Clinton and how about big balls. You know, here's
the thing. You got to realize that it took five
hundred and thirty five bureaucrats, five hundred thirty five people
who cannot hold the job in the private sector, five
hundred and thirty five people who are just incompetent losers
(01:50):
who spend their lives in government, and it's going to
be a handful of very smart private sector businessmen who
are able to undo all of this. The biggest issue
that we're facing right now, above anything, is the way
that we're spending our money. And guys like you and
I are taxed to death. We work hard, you have
a good year. IRS is going to get their pound
(02:11):
of flesh. So we're paying out the nose to the IRS.
We're paying twenty five, sometimes more percentage of our income
to the government for them to do. What are they
building roads? Are they securing the border? Is the military
ready for battle?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But if you want to do an LGBT puppet show
in Peru, we'll give you a million and a half.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
All the kickbacks are going to come out too. And
I just think probably ninety five percent of politicians are
getting kicked back. I mean twenty million for a puppet
show in Iraq, they probably sell a couple hundred grand
of that they kick back and that's traceable.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well here's the thing, So, yeah, we look at guys
in Congress. We look at these guys are in government
and who end up going in in like nineteen eighty five,
and by twenty ten they're worth one hundred million dollars
and they're making one hundred back then they weren't making
one to seventy or they're making one hundred something. While
that's a fine living, you're not going to amass a
fortune of thirty forty fifty million dollars making that a year.
(03:07):
And now we see obviously Nancy Pelosi being the prime
example with insider trading. We'll see how that works. But
what we're also seeing is these pet projects USA. Does
it cost a million five to put on a puppet
show in Ireland or to create a pamphlet on transgender
rights in Afghanistan? No, probably costs fifteen dollars at Kinko's
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where's the rest of that money going? That's the million
dollar question. Where's the rest of that money going? It
is going back in the pockets of the congressmen and
women who check the box and sign off on that
appropriation kickbacks campaign donations.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
If Biden got twenty Shell companies, everybody's got Shell companies.
Look at AMSC she came in broke and I think
she's worth like thirty million bucks. Now, it's all just
it's going to be hard to untangle. They've made it hard.
But I'm sure big balls can figure it out.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I'm sure they can. But you know what's crazy is
that this is only week two and this is only
a handful of organization State Department, USAID. Believe me, there's
going to be more. What happens when they audit the FED,
what happens when they audit the irs? What are they
going to find? It's going to be unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I think they stuck with the USA just so we
could all, you know, take it in because if it
all splashed out, someone.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Like my mom would have an nervous breakdown.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, but that's just one of the more egregious examples.
But you know, imagine it's like the Iceberg hypothesis. It's
just a little bit of that. Corruption is what we're seeing,
and so much of.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
It is underneath.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You know, had had Kamala Harris won the election, we'd
have no idea that any of this is happening. And
it's been going on for so long through Republican and
Democrat presidents. The big question I think on everybody's mind
is we shut it down. But then what happens to
our tax system once we eliminate that waste? Because that's
our money, that's our investment in our Republican We are
(04:58):
not getting a return on our money. When does that
money come back to us, the people that pay the taxes,
the people that pay for these pet projects, When the
pet projects are no longer there, when does that money
come back our way?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I don't see it coming back.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I see him killing his federal income tax in six months,
twelve months, once the terif's kick in and start selling oil.
He stated that's his goal.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Do you think that, Okay, I want to give credit
where credit is due. He's done an amazing job so far,
but that looks like, I mean, he can't unilaterally do that.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, he's gonna have to Uh, Congress has to get involved.
You know, the sixteen Amendment, they're gonna have to repeal that.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So what what do you think? And I'm fully on
board with you, but just instead of talking about it
and thinking about a practical solution, what would do you
think they could do? They could go to a flat tax,
a consumption based tax, because you know, paying thirty two
percent tax is just it's not feasible. Because the way
you have to look at our tax system is looking
at the very poor and the very rich. There's a
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big swath people in between. If you're very poor, you
pay nothing. You're not you don't have to worry abot
tax burden. If you're an Elon Musk, a two hundred
million dollar tax bill doesn't hurt. You don't even feel that.
You know, Mark Cuban, He's I can pay two hundred
and fifty million in taxes a year.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
He's not gonna feel that.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He's a billionaire. Everybody in between, everybody in between, that
big swath from above the poverty line to not quite
a super wealthy guy, you're gonna feel it. If you
pay one hundred thousand dollars in taxes, you bring it
home four five hundred thousand a year. You know what, Yeah,
you're gonna feel that one hundred thousand dollars. Some people,
ignorant people will go, oh, you're making four hundred thousand,
(06:31):
You're making five hundred thousand. That for a family is
not what it was fifteen twenty years ago. I'm sure
you're living very nicely, and I'm sure you have some luxuries,
but you're not gonna be able to write a check
for one hundred thousand dollars and not feel the pain
of that.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He's talked about it over and over again in eighteen ninety.
With terriffs, there's no income tax, so it's not gonna
be a flat tax. It's gonna be no tax. And
with tariffs in the sale of our oil, it's gonna
cover He's fired, was it ninety eight percent of the
people at USAD?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I think Marco a City wants two hundred and seventy
four of them.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
If he fires ninety percent of the government, it's not
going to take a whole lot of money to run
the government.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That's true. I was thinking about that. I mean, look
at you know, when Elon Musk acquired Twitter, he fired
what seventy five percent of the workforce, eighty percent of
the workforce. And look how it's operating. It is not
only do they have enough money to pay content creators
ad share, but they are also the number one news
source in the world. So they're doing something right. They're
running more profitably, and they're running more efficiently than ever before.
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Our government needs to run that. We've said that for
the last twenty thirty forty years that we need to
run our country like a business. And I think for
the first time we really are in the sense of
bringing in like a slash and burn CEO like Donald
Trump and going this isn't going to cut it. It's
a very different Trump than we saw our in the
first term. Do you think that's just boldness? Do you
(07:52):
think he's got a chip on his shoulder? Do you
think it's experienced? What would you attribute the difference between
twenty seventeen Trump and twenty twenty five Trump experience.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
He knows delay on the land, he knows what players
are willing to play and which ones are going to
backstab him. He sat back for four years and studied it.
I think really just experienced in the fact that he's
not going to have another election he's like, screw it.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I think that's part of it. I think in twenty seventeen,
I think he was a political novice. He's got to
learn to navigate these waters. I also think he had
to think about getting re elected, which I think for
Republicans and Democrats alike. And I know there's people out
there that want Trump to be the emperor forever. And
while that sounds good theory, we don't want to set
that precedent. How would you feel about no re election
(08:41):
for any elected office? Give the president a longer term,
give congressman a longer term, give centers a longer term,
but no reelection because think about how effective politicians can
be when they don't have to think about kissing the
public's ass or appeasing their donors or raising money. So
you were saying, like eight years for three well would
(09:03):
I would say? I would say the president should have
one eight year term. I think eight years is good.
Give them their reelection up front. One eight year term.
Congress every two years is not feasible because you're constantly
campaigning and you're constantly raising money. I think a congressman
should have a one to five year spot. That's it. Senators.
(09:23):
Seeing GI have senators one ten year spot. That's it.
No reelection, no reelection whatsoever. You do at one time
obviously have the ability to be recalled. They're the checks
and balances that we put on them. But not having
to appease donors and not having to constantly think about
how am I going to get reelected? We're going to
have a better government because you're gonna have gays like
Donald Trump who come in there and go, I got
(09:45):
my agenda and I'm putting it forth. And I think,
to touch on what we were talking about a minute ago,
is it's not just the age and experience and having
learned to navigate the waters of DC. I think he's
a guy with a massive chip on his shoulder. I
think he has been through hell. They've put him through trial,
they've convicted him, they've arrested him, they put that monk shot,
They've searched his house, they've searched his wife's underwear drawer.
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They've put him through the Russia Gates scandal, too, impeachments,
and shot him in the face on national TV. This
is a guy who is it's like he's come back
from the dead and he wants revenge on the people
who tried to kill him. You make a good argument.
He is ego driven. So yeah, you got that. Yeah,
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he is Leonardo DiCaprio and The Revenant. He has been
left for dead, he has been mauled by a bear.
He crawled on his belly two hundred miles to get
the guy who put him in that situation. That's one
hundred that I watched that movie. I love that movie.
I watched that movie and I'm like, that is the
perfect metaphor for Trump. That's exactly why he's coming in there.
And first of all, you know, notwithstanding the fact that
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he's seventy eight years old and just NonStop. He's in
California in the morning, he's in North Carolina at night.
He has not stopped moving once. I think this is
a guy with tremendous ego, which you have to have
at that level of the game. I don't care who
you are. And that's and that's part of Trump's brand,
and that's part of his charm. He's you know, there
are people that are arrogant, that are obnoxious, and there
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are people that are so arrogant, but they're what they have,
like they they can back up the talk with the walk,
So it's an it becomes an endearing quality. Take like
a real flashy athlete who's you know, like a Dion
Sanders or something like that, who's just full of himself,
but he backs it up on the field. So when
you have someone who's got a lot of bravado but
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they're also just a stone cold killer, we give him
a pass on that because you'vend it's been you're walking
around bragging when you have no string of accomplishments. That's
what it becomes an annoying trait in somebody. But he
doesn't brag.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
He never has.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
He brags all the time.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Come on, he.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Does a lot of stuff from people that he's never
told people about.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Oh he's a he's a genuinely good human being and
he's done a lot for people and he's very interest
but oh, I mean, he's got the biggest ego on
the planet and at that level of the game, you
can and it's endearing quality for him. But that's what
drives him. Ego is what drives him when he goes
and he builds, you know of fifty foot skyscraper, fifty
(12:15):
story skyscraper and puts Trump and gold on it. That's
a it's a shrine to himself, his whole branding. This
is a guy who's got a sense of himself unlike
anything we mere mortals can comprehend. But that's what makes
him great. Think about greatness. Just break it down in
terms of your Julius Caesar's, your Genghis Khan's, You're Alexander
(12:36):
the Great. They were all motivated by personal glory, glories
of a motivator. We're animals, Bob, We are self interested.
And if you can do something to feed that hunger,
and his hunger is himself and it makes him great.
And the Democrats, the deep state, the political establishment did
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the worst thing you can do strategically to some with
a massive ego is you went after him the way
you did because you tried to paint him as a loser.
You tried to lock him up, you tried to take
that away from him, and you only made him stronger.
They probably would have been better suited just to leave
him alone. They might they if they left him alone
and Trump didn't dominate the headlines for four years with
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arrests and indictments and trials and getting shot, maybe they
would have had a chance. I don't know now. They
put the worst possible candidate they could put. And I
want to get to the sixty minutes thing in a minute.
But they don't realize that Trump is a monster of
their own creation. He is the Frankenstein's monster. They built him,
they created him, and now he has turned on him.
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He is ai that has now become sentient and is
turned on its creator. And I frankly am here for it.
And for all the liberals who get up in my
business and all the family members and you know, former associates,
how can you support this guy? Is this what you
voted for? You're damn right. I did every thing about this.
(14:01):
This is unequivocally, unambiguously what I voted for. I'll have
it when I went to the polling place on November
fifth and I checked that box. This is what I
had in mind.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, burn it down, no question.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And it is a system that absolutely needs to be
burnt down. I want to move on now to let's
talk a little bit about sixty minutes. So we remember
sixty minutes did an interview of Kamala Harris and they
edited the crap out of it. Have you seen the
unedited video? Out there.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I can't watch it. I'm sorry, I could just imagine,
do you know.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I know it's cringey, I know it's hard to watch,
but the word salads. I mean, look, the media would
have ripped apart the fact that this major news organization
like Splice and edited it so they took like a
forty five second run on nonsensical response and turned it
into like a seven second like this is what we're
going to do, when really she said, what we're talking
about are creating the plans that are going to set
in a motion the things we need to do. They're
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ultimately going to have results that we need to have,
like something like that, where she's just doing a very
typical word salad and Trump, I love him man, the
revenge he takes away Joe Biden's security clearance. He's taking
Obama's security well, not security well is it security clearance
or I guess it is security clearance because they can't
have security briefings anymore. It's like there's no reason for
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them to have security briefings, which I agreeably they did
the same thing to Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Did you do do Obama? Because I just heard Biden.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I heard he's talking about doing it to Obama. I
don't know if that's changed. I mean, the news cycle
is evolving so quickly. He did do it to Biden.
He basically said that there's no reason for this guy
to have it, and you involve, but you're fired. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I love it, man. This is great, this is this
is absolutely what we voted for. So the Democrats. It's
so funny the Democrats coming out and hear a lot
of them say we're going to fight him in the streets.
And it doesn't have the same impact it had in
twenty twenty. The resistance as we knew it, it used
to be politically powerful and they used to have a
(15:59):
lot more influence on society. But bo we talked about
this at twenty nineteen. We've talked about the multi techacle beast,
that is the Democrat Party that a hand in academia,
hand in entertainment, a hand here, a hand in media.
I feel like they weren't just defeated politically. I feel
like they were defeated across the board. I feel like
they were defeated culturally, they were defeated economically, they were
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defeated on technology. All the tech companies are they're Trump's
friends now. Your Elon Musks and your Tim Cook and
Jeff Bezos, all those guys Zuckerberg are all with Trump now.
So I look at the Democrats. Early, the Democrats were defeated.
I think it's more of a conquest. I think they
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are a conquered people, and they can scream and shout
all they want, but their resistance is futile at this point.
I don't think they have the ability. I don't think
they have the machine in place anymore to do what
they've done in the past, like riots.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
They can't do with it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well, that was all USAID money, So if we take
the USA money away, they can't riot anymore. I mean,
where do you think the Democrats go from here? How
can they regroup and become a viable option again, because
we do need an opposition party. It keeps us accountable
and it keeps the issues fresh. But right now we're
really it's kind of like we're running a race and
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nobody's challenging us.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I don't think they're coming back for a good fifteen
twenty years because they're just the guy at CNN that
the only one that makes sense. The twenty eighty rule,
the Democrats go for the twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Trump goes for the eighty, you know, the eighty twenty
year old. They're just.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Everything they support is not smad, and until they come
back to the center, I think they're screwed for a
couple of decades.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I think, I think I don't know if I want
to say for the next decade. That's because the thing is,
we got to remember in politics, you know, a day,
a month, a year. I mean, these are an eternity.
So I don't know if I could speak to a decade.
I think if we're looking if the first thing we
want to look to is the midterms, I think the
midterms have I everything continues on the trajectory. It's one
(18:01):
right now. I think we keep the House, we keep
the Senate because people buying large or happy with the
way things are going, they don't want to change that. Historically,
that's not true. There may be a changing in the
garden one of the houses, but I don't see that
happening just yet. Obviously, we're more vulnerable in the House
than in the Senate. The Senate, we have a good lead,
but some of these folks might be getting primaried. Your
Susan Collins, you're Murkowski's who are in Lindsey Graham? I
(18:24):
hope to god is getting primary. We need to get
rid of those of Mitch McConnell. I don't think he's
running again in twenty twenty six. I think he's done,
but you obviously need some good America First Conservatives in there.
But moving on to twenty twenty eight, obviously the Democrats
have to put up a candidate. They're not going with
Harris again. They can't and news comes out he burned
himself up. No, yeah, no pun intended. But here's the
(18:46):
funny thing, Bob. The Democrat Party just had. They have
a new chairperson and newvice share, both white males, and
you know that four years ago that would have been
the cardinal's sin. Do you think the Democrats are recognizing
the changing of the tide and trying to push away
from the identity politics.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
No, I think they're dumb asses, and someone needs to
tell them to get the hell out asking Maxine Water
shut the hell up. Anybody that's yelling about USA is
getting kickbacks and they're going to get caught.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
By the way, twenty six the same act already passed
the House.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
They need to send it to the Senate and that's
one day voting paper ballots, voter ID that Democrats.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Are going to get white on twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I hope so. And it's a little early to forecast that,
But I think you're right. But I think the bigger
issue is that politics aside and politics being downhill from culture.
Our culture has undergone a massive shift in the last
twelve months twenty nineteen, transgender ideology, wokeness. You know, this
(19:48):
time five years ago, we were on the verge of
COVID six months from now. Five years ago, the country
was on fire. You had Congress, you had FBI taking
a knee, you had children's programming having BLM advertisements. Everybody
had to sit there and watch while your country was
just being ravaged by this cancer called wokeness. There was
a massive pushback on that. Culturally. I do think we
(20:10):
have come back. I think we talked about that from
the first show we ever did one day, that cultural
pensylum is going to come back the other way, and
it certainly did that. It did. My issue now is
do Democrats recognize that, do they have their finger on
the pulse, and are they adjusting their platform accordingly? Because
there are plenty of Democrats, a significant number of them,
who don't want to see two hundred pounds seventeen year
(20:33):
old boys playing on their daughters soccer team, who do
not want their teachers to tell their eight year old
tomboy daughter like, hey, maybe you're a boy, and let's
go see the guidance counselor, and we don't have to
tell your parents about that. I think even your most
hope to die liberal parents are reasonable people by and
large outside of your California and San Francisco and New
(20:53):
York outliers. I just don't see them learning from their mistakes.
It's too stupid.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, like you said, with Trump, what they did
to him the last four years totally backfired. It's a
common sense would have said, don't put his picture.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
On a.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
When he got arrested. Oh my god, it was so stupid.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So many black people were like, I can relate to
him now. Well, but I remember them doing that and
putting that picture out there and going haha, we got him.
And I said, you just created the most iconic image
of the.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Twenty first century.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
You did, You just created the most iconic image of
the twenty first century. And when I said earlier in
the show that Donald Trump is the monster of the
Democrat's own creation, that's exactly it. Doing these things and
thinking you're going to win. You're gonna beat this guy.
And if I could step back and give you an
unbiased political opinion without regard to who I vote for,
(21:51):
the only way to beat someone with the ego of
Trump is to ignore them, making someone irrelevant by not
giving them a That's how you destroy an ego, to
create a martyr out of somebody, to say, look at
this mugshot the felon and it's just the most badass image.
I mean, it's like the chay Gavera of the twenty
(22:12):
first century, that famous image and the type for Trump
really started to turn. Because this was back in twenty
twenty two and there was a lot of talk about DeSantis.
He was getting a lot of momentum. People were getting
a little bit of Trump fatigue, going how can this
guy do it? And then all of a sudden, you
create a folk hero out of them, and it reinvigorated
his movement the likes of which we had not seen before.
(22:34):
I think people were more enthusiastic and more passionate about him.
In the latter part of Biden's administration, then maybe they
had been all the way through his first administration where
we saw him as we saw it as a personal
attack on.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Us when they raided his house and went through his
wife's underw he jorder. That's I believe when Tucker Collegson
came on board, and a whole lot of other people too, Yeah,
that's it's.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Just a bridge too far.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I think.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Obviously the first impeachment was complete garbage. And as we
learn more and more about Hunter's laptop and what Joe
Biden was doing and that he was getting these kickbacks
from his son's businesses in Ukraine, we know that everything
that Trump investigated with Ukraine had he had the ability.
He had not only the ability, he had a responsibility
(23:20):
as the basically the chief law enforcement entity of this country.
Everything stops with him, and he had every right to
do that. And he said, hey, you know Republicans like
Mitt Romney who casting votes to impeach him on that,
And then you have the of the January sixth crap,
and you have all the criminal cases that come after that,
and you just create someone who is absolutely getting beat down,
(23:45):
and so many people would break and the fact that
he can come back as strong as he can, stronger
than ever before. I mean, Bob, that's that's so remarkable
that that could happen. Credits God, ha ye, our song
just can just came in the middle. Sorry guys, no,
(24:07):
but he The way that he could come back from
that was I don't know too many human beings on
this planet that could withstand that.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
No.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I couldn't that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I couldn't withstand a tenth of that. I mean, he
went through four criminal cases, two impeachments, investigated his whole
first term shot in the I mean, it's it is otherworldly.
I think generations that come after us are going to
study Trump.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
And go, what what was it?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I mean, scientists when when when he passes, scientists need
to like look at his brain and go, what is it?
What is it? How can we harness that gene and
create and put that into others because imagine how great
we would be if everyone had that level of drive.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
If he gets through to the federal income tax. I
think he's going on Mount rushmore personally.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, you know, look whether whether that happens or not.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I think that he's done so much and he's doing
so much, and he's he's being the leader we always
wanted him to be, and and just governing the way
that we have been fantasizing about for years and years,
and just taking that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Sort of justice to this bloated, inefficient blob that we
call the federal government that takes our money under threat
of imprisonment and spends it in ways that in no
way benefit you. Were high and for that reason we
are grateful. I think it's called taxation without representative Well, okay,
(25:41):
that's that's the that's one way to put it. I
call it armed robbery. It really is income taxes armed robbery.
If I threaten you with taking your liberty away, have
the ability to point a firearm at you, to seize
your property unless you give me money, I'd go to
prison for that. In Congress, you get reelected for that.
So that the irs, these entities, they have to be
(26:07):
dealt with one at a time in USAID. It's crazy
to think that's just one. That's just one of how many.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Oh my god, you didn't bring up when we audit
the Federal Reserve because it all starts there.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It all starts there. But I want to I want
to take a step further, I think that every sitting
member of Congress should be subject to an audit. I
think for transparency purposes, everyone should say, hey, look, if
you're making your money. Look if you want to write
a book, you want to do speaking engagements. Be my guest.
I'm a capitalist, I'm an opportunist. If you're in Congress
(26:41):
and you want to go give a twenty five thousand
dollars speech to some group at lunch, that doesn't affect me.
Go make your money. It's when you're using that office
to say I'm going to take taxpayer money. Hey, organization
in Afghanistan, whatever, you want to make money, I want
to make money. No. But here's the thing, liberals, nobody
is motivated by altruism. Nobody's sitting there going we need
(27:02):
to help the LGBT community. We're gonna go put on
a play for them. No, they're going, how can we
builk the American tax system? How can we profit off
this incompetent, bloated bureaucracy. How can we make money? Oh,
we'll put it down on paper. We're gonna, you know,
make a you know, we're going to feed a village,
or we're going to create a water system that is
(27:23):
going to cost twenty five thousand to build. But we're
going to build the American people twenty five million. And you,
congress person, you're going to put it into the spending bill,
and if you can get it past, we're going to
kick you back x amount. You know, that's how you
guys get rich.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
There's precedent for what you're wanting to do.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
They that's why Donald Trump let his taxes go all
the way up to the Supreme Court. So and they
went after they got the taxes all his businesses. So
another precedent that you can do that to any politician.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
God Willing, I think, I think it's a it's long
past time to do that. But that being said, we
were supposed to have a guest today, had to cancel
last minute. He said he can't speak. I can't recall
what issue he was going to talk about, but he said,
I can't speak about it because I might get sued.
So always interesting to have guests who are under threat
of lawsuit coming on the show. But I certainly would
(28:14):
advise if you know, I don't want you to get
suit of ruals coming on the show. It's funny though
our show Bob and Eric Save America has made it
into the Annals of History and Alex Shepherd are friend.
Alex Shepherd's January sixth sentencing the episode of our show
that he came on, there were screenshots in his sensing
memorandum from the US Department of Justice because he was
(28:35):
on there talking, you know about January sixth, and he
doesn't have any remre he's on this right wing podcast,
and I laugh, Man, that's so funny, that's so funny.
But happy it said, any parting words coming up on
about the thirty minute mark.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I can't imagine week three. Man, It's been a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's been incredible. And Trump and his administration are doing
a great job. Just whittled down the size of the
US government, make us lean, mean efficient, and again, you know,
you win the culture, you win the politics. I think
so much of this is a cultural win of people
sick and tired. I'll give you one example. Just I
(29:15):
guess on my small scale speaking to people who voted
for Trump, who were not even Trump supporters or don't
even necessarily like the guy lifelong Democrats, that the resounding
issue that I got from all them was the trans stuff.
They all said, They all said, Look, I'm a Democrat.
I'm a Union guy. You know, I don't like Donald Trump.
I voted for Biden, I voted for Clinton, but I
(29:36):
voted for Trump this time run because the trans stuff.
So many, so many lifelong Democrats have told me that.
So I think moreover, what we're looking at is not
just a political win, but a cultural win where we
just want to go back to common sense. Nobody's saying
you can't be transgender. I don't care who other people.
You want to tuck your sack back and say, I'm
a you know, my name is Deborah, Deborah, Go enjoy
(29:58):
your Saturday. Just don't impart that my impressionable children, and
don't shove it down my throat. Every week, go big balls,
Go big balls, guys, Thanks for tuning in. We'll see
you next week. God keep Americaun, you keep America. We'll
keep americ Gray.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Keep Americaun, You keep America, We'll keep America. Could be
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