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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Keep America. You keep America.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We'll keep Americ.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 4 (00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Welcome to Bob and Eric Save American Podcast. My name
is Bob Dunelast and my name is Eric Matteini. Thank
you all for tuning in on this historic Saturday, the
last Saturday of the Biden administration. God bless America. Can't wait.
I can't wait either. It has been so long in
the making. We have worked, we have toiled, just the
(00:52):
effort that we have put forth, and I've always said
this to you guys that this was a group effort.
I have never had an election before in my lifetime
where I felt like I took some part in it. Yeah.
I think the work that we do here is very impactful.
And like I said, I've given credit where credits do.
I've given credit to the Daily Mean team, to all
the content creators, everybody who really, you know, for lack
(01:16):
of a better way of putting it, like a grassroots
campaign for a major candidate. Yeah, Yeah, we're alive. Well
because because the Democrats completely outspent us. You know, bear
in mind. Yeah, we are going to bring in the
big boss man himself, the head of Freedom First Network, Gorneck.
He's got his pick at hat On, He's got the
(01:37):
merch already. Look at that, Jeff. We were just talking
about this on this historic Saturday, the last Saturday of
the Biden administration. Now, I'm a bit of a presidential historian.
I've been fascinated by that since I was a little kid,
and I got to ask you, how do you think,
let's let's go fifty one hundred years in the future,
what is history going to say about the Biden presidency
(01:58):
the years twenty twenty one to that little blip in
your history book. What are they going to say?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Honestly, so if if they, you know, report on the
truth when it comes to history, which we all know
depends on who's in power and all that kind of stuff.
But I mean, when you think about it, that's going
to be the probably the biggest fraud in American history.
I Mean, you literally have a sitting president that's you know,
for lack of a better word, is just a trojan horse.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
He's just there.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
He's a facade other people are pulling the strings behind
the scenes. I mean, I mean, you know, yes, there's
always been you know, the the puppeteers and the behind
the scenes people that call the shots. Go back to
George Bush and Dick Cheney and like the whole deal.
But you look at this. He's literally just goes up
there and reads a script and says, yeah, this is
this is what I'm doing. Well, everybody else is making
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the decision.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
See signs.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
The signature reads the script and that's about it. When
you actually think about it, it's like the largest fraud
that's been pulled in the White House in American history.
And I think it's it's gonna be a really, really
awful stain on the history of this country that we
kind of allowed that to happen. But luckily it was
only four years and then they pulled the whole the
(03:05):
old switcheroo with Kamala Harris, and now here we are
with Trump coming back in.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I was thinking about this last night. I was thinking
about this. I think the next four years will make
the previous four years worth it. I think what we
have in store for us this time around will make
having endured Abiden Harris administration worth it. In the long run,
I see Trump as a different person. I see Trump
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as a changed man. He has been through things that
we can't imagine. This is a guy who was a billionaire,
who sleeps with a supermodel, has this great life, who
didn't need this, and he's been indicted ninety one times, tried, convicted, impeached, shot,
gone through hell and a lot of people. As much
as we love Trump, we got to think, like, what
is motivating this man? You got all the money in
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the world, you didn't need this. I do believe it's
an abiding love of country. I really believe, as flawed
as the man may be, and I've never agreed with
him one hundred percent. And Jeff you, you and I
have both been vocal critics of Trump, and we will
continue to be vocal critics. I don't ben the need
of any man, but to think, what is it that
drives this man to continue? Is something otherworldly. I think
(04:13):
it's something that perhaps mere mortals can't understand. That he's
just made out of different stuff. I mean, being a
target like that, having people out there, you know, trying, honestly,
in my opinion, trying to assassinate you, is probably the
least of my worries. I'd be more worried about spending
my life in prison having people come after me the
way that they did, And he keeps going and keeps
(04:35):
having the will to fight. Do you what do you think?
How do you think he is different coming into twenty
twenty five than he was coming into twenty seventeen. Is
it he's different, Is it the country's different? Or is
it both?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Would I would say both.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I think when it comes to when it comes to
Trump specifically, I think he understands who is going up against.
I don't think he understood time around who he was
going up against. I think he thought when he went in.
You go back and you look at a lot of
his early speeches, when that he gave during that initial campaign,
you know, it was, Oh, we're going to break apart
the corruption between the rich, wealthy people that are buying
(05:12):
off politicians Like that was the level of quote unquote
deep state that I think that he was talking about.
And then he gets in there and then he sees, Look,
there's corruption in the Republican Party, there's corruption in the
Democrat Party, there's coruption every single agency known to mankind.
I think he got in there and he could affect
all the change that he needed to on his own
to to a certain degree, and he would trust certain
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people to get in there, and clearly writes previous in
the establishment GOP totally led him and totally led him astray.
They worked against him the entire time. And I think
this time around he realizes, no, this is serious. I mean,
we're dealing with rogue intelligence agencies that tried to undermine
his presidency throughout the entirety before his presidency, during his presidency,
after his presidency. I mean, you've got everything from the
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setup with January sixth, You've got everything that they did
with FLAM and UH and Roger Stone and Donald Trump himself.
You've got Russia Gate. You've got all these things with
the agencies. Now we're seeing through RFK, we're seeing the
the and the COVID, You're seeing the corruption and the
health agencies that tied with Big Pharma. You're seeing the
corruption everywhere. And I think he finally realized, no, this
(06:18):
is so deep seated. I have to have this super team,
this dream team, to come in and we've got We've
got a white we've got a clean house.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We've got to fix this mess.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And then you throw on top of that the multiple
assassination attempts that where they were trying to take him
out heading as he was literally campaigning to run for president,
and then you see the mainstream media basically hardly talk
about it like that should have been one of the
biggest questions that they asked him in every single debate,
and they didn't even like mention it at all during
(06:47):
the debates that there was an assassination attempt Could you
imagine if if there was a couple assassination attempts on
Kamala Harris or Joe Biden, that would have been the
central theme of the rhetoric and the violence and all
that kind of stuff, and it was they just covered
it up. So I think that he realizes heading in
this time, the corruption is so deep. It's so much
deeper than I think he ever anticipated. And so that's
(07:08):
why I'm thankful that these guys like He's got guys
like RFK Junior and Toulci Gabbard and Cash Betel and
all these guys coming in where they understand.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
The level of corruption that needs it that they have
to take on.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
And also, you know, I know Trump has talked about
this and I know Rfk's talked about this, but there
was RFK was asked one time about, you know, if
he fears for his life, you know, talking about the
things and the entities that he's taking on, and he's like,
there's worse things than dying. Part of it is losing
our freedom, losing our humanity, losing our ability to be free,
Like that's worth dying for. And I think that I
(07:41):
think that this administration understands that. And uh and I
you know, I think that they they all understand it's
now or never.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
This is do or die time.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It is Bob, I gotta say I've noticed, and tell
me if I'm right. It looks like all these people
who six months ago were calling for Trump's head are
now wanting to to cozy up to him because they
want to be on the winning team. You're mark Zuckerberg's guys,
like that Snoop Dogg, who famously made a video showing
him shooting Trump, is now performing at an inauguration party.
(08:11):
What is this shift we're seeing, especially with Zuckerberg, because
I don't trust him. It's like an eighth grader trying
to fit in. I don't trust the switch on Zuckerberg,
even the way he's trying to come across his shaggy hair,
like he's trying to go from this like reptilian techno
lord to some like right wing podcast bros. What's that?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
I think they gave him an ultimatum, You're either going
to make Facebook and Instagram a free speech or we're
gonna go after you.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Another one that you didn't mention is Bill Gates going
down there. It's spending three hours with him. That guy
is so evil.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
I guess they're all just trying not to get arrested
and hung in a military tribunal.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
What see. That's the thing that gets me though, is
the Bill Gates. I understand he's the president. I understand
when you're the president. You know, we could sit here
and we could criticize that, we could condemn. We have
no idea what goes on in Washington. The same thing
I said when Mike Johnson was voted speaker again, I said, look,
it's not my first choice, but I'm not going to
(09:11):
sit here and pretend like I understand how Washington works
from the inside. I'm sure in Donald Trump, you know,
when you're at that level of the game, when you're
a billionaire. When you're at the top of the world,
you don't really have friendships. You really have mutually beneficial
relationships and things that are advantageous to you. I'm sure
there are some advantages, you know, being friendly with Bill Gates.
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He's very powerful, he's very wealthy. I think he's as
evil as you as you do, Bob. I think he
should be thrown in a military prison till the day
he dies. I think he's The vaccines that he's introduced
to Indian Africa have killed people. It's documented. It's well,
no no one wants to talk about it. But then
you have the other side that's saying, well, you know,
keep your enemies close. You know, I don't, Jeff, what
(09:55):
do you think he's having Bill Gates come to Marlow
over three years? What could he possibly have in common
with this guy?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Well, so it's it's interesting looking looking at it. Uh,
from the perspective of Trump, I get it, because to
to a certain degree, you're you're trying, you You're you're
the president of the United States. There's these powerful people.
Bill Gates one of the most wealthy men in the
on the entire planet. I unless unless you literally have
a smoking gun that that shows uh that you know,
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shows emails of him saying that he doesn't care that
that that kids are dying in Africa or whatever it is.
It would be very hard to prosecute him and lock
him up in a in a military you know, prison
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yeah, So so I think that then the next step
would be, Okay, what can what How can I at
least co opt some of these guys in order to
either alleviate some of the division and the craziness and
all that kind of stuff, or push them in a
particular direction that I can take advantage of it. I
think that's specifically what's happened with guys like Jeff Bezos
and Mark Zuckerberg and all these guys. Uh, you know,
(10:58):
like like I remember watching the entire zucker interview with
Joe Rogan, and I'm just sitting here. I'm like, you're
blaming everybody else but yourself. It's the Biden administration, it's
the fact checkers, it's the algorithms. He's like, he's trying
to position himself as like I didn't do anything wrong.
It was just went crazy. I didn't try to do anything.
The I think to a certain degree, a lot of
these guys are trying to position themselves to where they're
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not going to see the DOJ investigate them and come
after them, because, in my opinion, you look at Facebook
and Instagram, they should be prosecuted for violating our First
Amendment rights because they were working as agents of the
federal government, because they were doing the bidding of the
federal government, as opposed to coming forward and saying no.
Look the Joe Biden administration. They're cussing and swearing at
my guys. They're trying to pressure us into into violating
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free speech. But we're going to we're gonna, you know,
expose them and all that.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
He didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He waits until Trump's coming in and then he comes
forward and then points the finger at everybody else but
my problem, and this is my problem, and then I'll
throw it back to you guys. So Trump's doing this
with guys like Zuckerberg and Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos
and all these you know Silicon Valley billionaires are they're
all coalescing around Trump. Okay, great, for four years, we
may have them do the bidding of Donald Trump. Because
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they're afraid of Trump's you know, sticking you know, the
DOJ on them and investigating them for probably crimes and
corruption and collusion and the whole deal.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Right, But what happens after the four.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Years if we don't prosecute and hold people accountable that
violate the law, whether you're talking about Pauci or Zuckerberg
or Bill Gates or any of these guys, if we
don't hold them accountable, then sure, we'll have four years,
four years of reprieve for reprieve from all this. But
then what happens after that? Let's say a Democrat gets
in after Donald Trump? Are they just going to go
back to censoring again, because we're not actually fixing the problem,
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We're putting a band aid on it. If we don't
hold you guys accountable for the crimes that they committed.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What if Kamala one You think Zcher would have done
when he's done, No, not, he'd be the loudest one
condemning Trump. They all would. I think Jeff's one hundred
percent right. I think it's self interest across the board.
But Jeff makes a very interesting point, and I've talked
about this a lot. If what Zuckerberg is saying is true.
If the Biden administration, if there was any government involvement
in censoring what Facebook was able to put out there,
algorithms they were releasing, how they were able to facilitate
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information being disseminated, that's a First Amendment issue. If Mark Zuckerberg,
as the owner of Facebook, says I want to elevate
this speech and I want to suppress this speech, that's
not a First Amendment issue. I have shouted at that,
primarily at conservatives till I'm blue in the face. Guys,
you don't have a constitutional right to a Twitter account.
If the government comes in and says, hey, Twitter, I
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don't like what Jeff is saying, I don't like what
Bob is saying, suppress them, make sure that their followers
can't see their messages, that's a First Amendment issue because
you have government action. So that necessitates a larger investigation
as to what was the Biden administration doing, namely as
it relates to Hunter's laptop. Because we talk a lot
about the twenty twenty election. There's a lot of truth,
there's a lot of fiction as far as it goes.
But the one thing that I think we can all
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agree upon is that Hunter's laptop was real. That story
was heavily suppressed by social media. There was government action
in suppressing that. You know, fifty one intelligence agents signed
off on it, said it was Russian disinformation. We find
out true, We find out it's true, and then Biden
ends up pardoning his kid for basically all the content
(14:06):
to ten years worth content that's on there, so that
necessitates investigation. Investigation is one of those buzzwords they throw around.
It's kind of like the checks in the mail. She
goes to a different school, It's like nothing's ever gonna happen, Like, yeah,
I'll call you, Yeah, we'll get the other, we'll have lunch,
and you don't see him for ten years. You know that?
That to me is just kicking the can down the road.
I think we do need to see accountability. The government
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is out of control. The government has gone mad with power.
January sixth is one of the prime examples of that.
How they set up this event, created a crime to
entrap American so they could demonize half populations. Say, look
at those radical conservatives. They're violent, violent white supremacy. What
they like to talk about Monday. Do you think we're
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going to see a mass pardon or do you think
it's going to take longer than one day.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't know, because I think I think that there's
there's some debate, there's some internal debate about do they
do a blanket pardon for everybody or do they do
it on a more case by case basis, Because I
I think I think they're there. I think the and
I think the question hinges around are we are we
going to include in the pardons, uh, you know, people
that did commit you know, actual acts of either violence
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or you know, breaking windows or whatever it is. Where
where do we draw the line? And it's and so
I think that I think that there's some internal discussion
about Okay, who who's who's actually going to get pardoned?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
In in my in my opinion, in this is my
personal opinion, I think that I could see a scenario
where we can see we can see a completely you know,
blanket pardon, because you can make the argument that even
those that let's say they broke a window or whatever
it is, that weren't FBI informants are working on behalf
of the intelligence agencies, but that those people were entrapped,
that that that those people also have not experienced due
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process because a lot of them have been sitting and
rotting in prison, you know, uh, you know, without any
you know, a lot of times access to attorneys or
a whole host of things. So there could be an
argument that that practically anybody should be part and altogether.
But also you also have to look at and unfortunately
this is the game of politics, you have to look
at the pr side of things. If Donald Trump pardons
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people that did commit acts of violence, or broke windows,
or broke down doors, or committed certain kinds of crimes,
how does that look to the American people that the
president just pardoned these people as opposed to holding them accountable.
You can make You could easily make the case that
you know, Grandma that they're chasing down in the middle
of Timbuck to Tennessee, you know, should be pardoned. But
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so a lot of it's gonna come down to can
they get the right messaging, can they get the right rhetoric,
can they get the right pr spin on doing a
blanket pardon.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
So it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I don't know if it's gonna come day one, but
I think it will come very very shortly. It's just
I think they have to work through some of those things.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I got to say something on that point about the
breaking the window. A lot of the liberals, a lot
of the people say, well, if you broke windows, you
know what, Jeff, I'm a criminal defense attorney. Everybody knows that.
If you come to my office and you say, Eric,
I got arrested for criminal mischief. I broke a window,
you know what I'm gonna get you pay for the
cost of the window. Case dismissed, Conditional dismissal, maybe a
slap on the wrist, maybe twenty five community service hours.
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Have a good day. If you punch a cop, if
you have too many beers at the airport and you're
trying to board your spirit flight to the Bahamas and
you punch a tsah and punch a cop. If you
have no prior history, probably get your probation. Nobody deserves
what the January six ers have gone through. Oh he
broke a window. If you go down the street right
now in any neighborhood in America and you break a window,
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if you're in a blue city, nothing will happen. They'll
write a police report and that'll be it. If you're
down in Miami Beach and you break a storefront window,
they'll charge you with a crime, and you'll be disposed
of accordingly and commensurate with people who are in your situation,
who have similar prior histories, or no prior histories. You'll
probably get it dismissed. So they'll breaking the window argument
doesn't hold any water with me, because any other setting,
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any other day of the week, that would be a
minor offense, even an assault on a police officer. I've
gotten people cases dismissed, People get deferd prosecution for that
all the time. So the fact that first and foremost,
we have to accept the fact that they were never
there to overthrow the government. The government was never in
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any danger of being overthrown by an unarmed mob of
maybe two thousand people. And I've said it, and I'll
say it here, and I'll say it everywhere. If Americans
wanted to overthrow the government, we could, and that's our
constitution some degree enables that to happen. It's why we
have a Second Amendment. It's our check and balance against
the power of government. If Americans wanted to organize a
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military and get weapons and go to stage a coup.
It can happen. It can happen here the same as
it happens in other countries and does happen in other countries.
So to think that this crowd that came there for
a speech to hear President Trump and march to the
capital to protests that was taken to the next level
one through provocateurs in the crowd and two and Bob
(18:51):
and I have interviewed I can't tell you how many
J sixers we've had on this program where they all
say the same thing. Hey, I saw the cop step aside,
I saw people walking, I fall owed him in. So
those people, I think, without without even batt and I,
I mean, that should be pardoned on day one. I
understand I want and I know people want blanket partons
across the board, and that's what I want to see.
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I understand what the crowd wants. I understand what the
people want. I understand what has to happen. And Pam
Bonby did say it like she does have to review
it on a case by case basis, so it's probably
not all gonna happen on Monday. I do think he
does have the authority. He does absolutely have the authority
to issue some sort of blanket pardon for certain offenses,
like if you're only charged with like the disorderly conduct
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or things like that, which is basically just going into
the Capitol and making noise, that could be a blanket part.
And on day one, I think there are cases he's
gonna have to evaluate on a case by case basis,
just because that's the process, and that's what happens. Despite
people are gonna be bitching and complaining, but he's not
even an office yet, and conservatives bitching complained about everything already.
So I mean, guys like this is why we can't
have nice things, be happy when the election, Joe Biden's
(19:57):
political career kabla arass political career is over. So that
being said, I think what you're going to see, truthfully,
the honest, you know, the part of me that wants
to rally up the crowd and get excited, pardons for all,
and I want that to happen, But I think the
reality of what's gonna happen. You're gonna have pardons for many,
You're gonna have a lot of commutations. You're gonna have
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people that may have committed offenses that were not as
minor as others slightly more egregious that may have been sentenced.
I think all those sentences will be commuted. That's why
I think the reality of what's gonna happen, whether you
agree with it or not, whether you like it or not,
that's just what's gonna happen. But I do think that
anybody who's been sentenced to prison, I think their prison
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terms are over. I don't think you're gonna see anybody
serving any time longer than maybe in the next couple
of weeks that these terms are over. I've talked to
Enrique Tarrio's lawyers or two colleagues of mine, the friends.
I just had coffee with one of them the other day.
The pardon paperwork is in the in the works. It's
happenings you speak, and I think Trio. I think Tarrio
(21:02):
might actually get pardoned because he wasn't there. He wasn't there,
and he was the face of the Proud Boys, and
you know the whole standby, stand back thing that Trump
said and kind of put them on the map. They
wanted to get him. He's just something. He's a big deerhead.
He hang over the mammal piece that wanted to get
him with big target. Does he deserve twenty two years
in prison?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Did he deserve twenty two days in prison? Now I
think he will get pardoned. I think some of the
people who maybe were involved in tussles with cops and
things like that will get commuted. Our good buddy Bob
big O'barnett, who his only crime was putting his speed
up on Nancy Pelosi's desk and he got four years
for that, I think he gets crossing. But I don't know, man,
(21:40):
it's uh, well, it happens.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Right, but but but I think I think it's interesting because,
like I just thought in Brandon's truck posted, I think
it was either last night or today that the that
the the DOJ is is still filing charges today for
j six offenses. And so the latest one that that
I just saw today was they went after this guy's
like a fifty nine year old guy. Oun't I think Arkansas,
I forget what his name is. And and they're they're
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filing charges both misdemeanor and felony charges because and and
and they're saying that he assaulted a cop and he
did this and well and in the article and in
the report that they filed with with the court, they
literally said that the FBI went in and interviewed him
back in July of twenty twenty four, So what was
that six months ago?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Whatever it is?
Speaker 5 (22:23):
They're just now filing charges that basically practically the day
before Trump takes office. What's going on there? But but
they're saying that. They're saying that he assaulted a coffee,
grabbed a baton, he tried to eat whatever it is. Well,
you look at what his explanation was. He's like, look,
this cop was trying to attack somebody else that was
in the crowd, and I was grabbing his baton and
told him to knock it off, and if you do,
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then I will I will basically, I will hurt you
if if you hurt this other guy. But he basically
and and so then then they then they filed the
picture from the bodycam footage of the guy grabbing the
baton to try obviously they're trying to make it look
like he's a violent whatever it is. And I'm sitting
there thinking, I'm like, nowhere in this report did they
say that he was wrong. Nowhere in this report did
they say, you know that the bodycam footage proves that
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he wasn't trying to defend somebody, but he was going
on the offensive and attacking this cop. And so you're
sitting here and you're like, okay, so, but what if
what he's saying is true, should he really be prosecuted
for defending somebody else from a cop that's trying to
beat somebody with a baton? Probably not. And so that's
where it's like, Okay, so I get making with Trump.
Make a blanket pardon for anybody with misdemeanor crimes, and
then take anything where there's felony charges, take it on
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a case by case basis. But I guarantee you that
on a case by case basis, a lot of these
charges for a lot of these guys will immediately be
dropped because there is no evidence that I'm seeing in
any of these charges that would actually support a felony
crime or prosecution or jail time. Like you said, maybe
it would be some sort of restitution, Maybe it would
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be community service, maybe it'd be probation, or maybe for
a handful of these things, maybe it would be a
short prison sentence, but a short prison sentence, not decades,
not where a lot of these guys are gonna die
and rotten prison. Like to me, that's where you start
getting into the case by case and you come up
with the justification why you're presenting the pardon. And I
think that there could actually be a legitimate case where
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almost everybody gets a pardon, even on the case by
case basis.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think so. But remember that disorderly conduct with the
intent to disrupt an official proceeding is a felony. So
if there is something going on the certification of the
election and you walk into the building create any kind
of disturbance, that automatically is going to be a felony.
So people who walked into the building, most of them
were charged with felonies. And it's funny. We're watching the
confirmation hearings this week for Pambondi, for Pete's Haig Seth,
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and we're seeing people in the chamber shouting and disrupting
unofficial proceeding. Do you think any of those guys are
gonna be charged with a felony?
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
They're gonna be ushered out of there and given a
trespass warning. Only when conservatives do it? Is it a crime?
That being said? But we got inauguration day Monday. It's
a day of celebration but also a day of caution.
They moved it indoors. Jeff, do you think that's scheical weather?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, so it's going to be freezing cold. The reality
of it is is that like historics, I mean, there's
definitely been inaugurations that have been in the snow. I
think the high because I was originally intending to go,
and then you know, we're not going for a variety
of reasons. Got a lot going on with pickax and
all that kind of stuff. But I think the high
to the high end Monday is gonna be like twenty
three degrees. The low is gonna be ten, So I
know it's going to be freezing cold. I don't know
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if that's the reason why. I've also heard reports that
there was that there's a security threat, but also from
that standpoint, it would have to be a legitimately serious
security threat in my opinion to change the entire inauguration
and the location of the inauguration and take it inside.
So I don't know what's going on. To be honest,
I can make the argument either way. I would I
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mean for them to move the inauguration, when they've been
preparing and spending countless millions of dollars on that, and
all the security protocols that they set in and all
the staging and all the setup, and then last minute
they move it inside. My guess would be that there's
probably some sort of serious threat on President Trump for
them to make that drastic of a change last minute.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Good point. What do you think, Bobby? You agree?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
I forgot about the millions of dollars they've spent sitting
up the stage and everything else, and for them just
to throw that away, I think it is a security threat.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Well, this is a guy who there he got shot
on national TV. He was almost shot, but for they
caught the guy you know in his little nest over
by the golf course. He's had two attempts on his
life that we know of. So I think, you know,
putting safety first before any optics in anything ceremonious, because
it's really what the inauguration is is mainly ceremonious, but
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obviously safety is first. Do you think you're going to
see what we saw in twenty seventeen riots in the
street of DC. I just don't see the fire on
the left right now, I think a lot. I really
I called it a couple of weeks ago. I think
the Democrats are a conquered people. Do you get that, Jeff?
I really sense like they are a defeated, conquered people
who have laid down their arms and are just trying
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to regroup to figure out what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Maybe I think to a certain degree there is a
certain level of that. I but also at the same time,
when you when you look at the Democrat leadership, obviously
I don't I don't see them as being a conquered people.
Uh in general, you know, my my impression is that
they they realize that that they ramp things up, and
they kind of have egg on their face with with
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Kamala Harris. I think a lot of them thought that
they'd be able to just push push her over the edge.
They didn't realize just how pissed off the American people
are at the Democrat Party. So I think that probably
what they're gonna do is they're gonna probably lie low
for a little bit, regroup, and then they're going to
go back to their same tactics that they've always did.
So division and I've been telewarning people for the longest time.
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The next four years is going to be the worst
division that we've seen in American history. Have to be
very prepared because every single thing that that Donald Trump does,
they're gonna they're they're going to try to pit the
American people against it, because guess what, the Democrats still
control the media, they still control Hollywood, they still control
basically all the levels of influence that they controlled before
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they just lost an election. So the question is let
it all down, let it all die down, and then
what will end up happening is the American people forget
that they were, that they all have egg on their
face because we have such short attention spans and the
twenty four hour news cycle, and then they'll come back
and then do the same old tactics and do whatever
they can. Luckily, though, we do have control of both
legislative branches, so where we're not at least for two years,
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we're not going to be having impeachment proceedings, So at
least we've got a little bit of a little bit
of wiggle room there. But I think that they're going
to be pitying us against each other.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
For the next four years, not have the media anymore,
the social media X two social rumble. I think we're
debunking things like seconds. For example, CNN just got slapped
with a five million dollar deformation suit, So I think
the mainstream media is bye bye.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I totally agree with Bob. I think that the influence
of the Democrats is a fraction of what it was. CNN,
their media powerhouse is bleeding viewers. I mean, they probably
have more employees than they do regular viewers over there.
At CNN. We are the media that's one hundred percent true,
and we owe that to Elon Musk. His purchase of
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Twitter was I think I put that down. There's like
Gutenberg's printing press. It was in the in the history
of mass communication that shifted the balance from corporate media
to guys like us, and it enabled us to have
a voice and get information out there. And we always
say it when news breaks, when you hear something, Jeff,
someone sends you a message, oh my god, did you
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see this? Are you going, hey, let's put on the TV.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Are you going to pickaxs, You're going to X, You're
going to truth social to social media to see what
is going on, because that's where the news is there
are guys that I trust more on X and on
media platforms than I do on the news, and that
goes across the board, from Democrat, Republican independent news sources.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I don't watch Fox News, I don't watch CNN, I
don't watch MSNBC. I see what's going on from ordinary people.
I think journalists is probably one of those careers that
used to be respectable and it's fallen tremendously. I don't
think the Democrats are necessarily gonna be the biggest enemy
in the next four years. I don't know how divided
we're gonna be because one, I see a lot of
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people jumping on the Trump bandwagon. One because I think, yes,
there's an advantage to that, because Trump's in power, and
two because I think it's fashionable now, you know, like
we sit here like I like Donald Trump. Before it
was cool to do that, and now everybody's rallying around him.
I think our biggest fight over the next four years
is gonna be establishment Republicans. I think we're gonna be
fighting Lindsay Graham, Jony Earns. I think we're gonna be
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fighting them tooth and nail on everything from here on out.
And you know, Jeff before we let you go, and
I want to hear some stuff about what's going on
with Pickaxe. What do you think twenty twenty eight's got
to look like? Because I remember Democrats are always thinking four, eight,
twelve years ahead. Kamala Harris blue her shot. Gavin Newsom
blew his shot. He's done. He doesn't have the political capital.
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What are they going to do otherwise? Jd Vance run
the Santis, whoever's gonna steamroll whoever they put up in
twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I don't I don't see any
So I don't see anybody that the Democrats are grooming
to run for president besides Gavin Newsom. And and luckily,
luckily for us, we're seeing the catastrophe of the gave
of Gavin Newsom's handling of California, with the with the
fires and all the craziness that's going on out here
in the in this insane communist state that I that
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I live in. But if anybody, if anybody, can lie
themselves to the presidency, it is Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom
is the country's best liar. He will lie to you
with a smile on your face. And I bet you
he can pass a polygraph test like like, that's that's
Gavin Neusom. So if the Democrats are going to dig
their heels in and can you continue to push their
insanely left anti Trump, you know, push Gavenusom's probably their
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best bet. If if the Democrats were smart, they would
eat Crow and they would come back to somebody like
an RFK junior and say like, look, you represent us
next time around, because he would probably be their only
legitimate shot at actually having at actually bringing back the
independence back over to the Democrat Party. I don't foresee
that happening because then they all have deep Crow and
I don't Again I don't, I don't see that happening.
(32:13):
So in all reality, my guess and my assumption is
that they're probably they're probably going to continue to groom
Gavin Newsom to run, because again he's a phenomenal liar.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I don't see anybody else on the horizon that would
that would be that would have a legitimate shot to
debate a JD Vance or a Rond Descantis or whoever
it is, because they all they would all get destroyed.
The only person that I could see holding their own
would be a Gavin Newsom because he's the world's best,
most phenomenal liar in the history of mankind.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
They won't do it. The fire destroyed him. They know
he has no appeal outside of California. His appeal in
California is slim to none. Josh Shapiro, one of our
one of our viewers, has suggested a cherry thank you
for that. Josh Shapiro, I've always said I thought I
thought the Kamala Harris would have done much better had
she picked him instead of Waltz. But the Democrats could
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not courted you because they want to appeal to their
pro mus Win. Yeah, but I think I think the
era of identity politics is over, Bob. We started talking
about that in twenty nineteen when we were in the
thick of the woke phase of our existence. I think
it is accepted that twenty twenty four was the year
that that died. DEI initiatives are being scrapped from a
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number of companies, number of cities. We saw what DEI
did in Los Angeles. I mean basically, fire departments that
prioritize well, we have a lesbian fire chief and you know,
a burning you know, if my roof is collapsing on
men underneath a pile of burning rubble, I'm like, please
don't let a white man rescue me. Please don't let
a white man rescue me. But I'll tell you I
think it's it's over. I think people are going to
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go back to more common sense. The transgender issues, those
are widely unpopular across the board. So I think you're
going to see a candidate not necessarily based on what
they look like or who they are. I think just
whoever's the most qualified, whoever that may be. You're not
gonna have a situation like Joe Biden comes out and
says my running mate will be a woman of color.
You're not gonna have a Democrat do that. They're gonna say,
I'm going to pick the best person for the job,
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whoever that may be. And again, no one's saying that
your fire chief can't be a lesbian, or no one's
saying that, you know, woman can't be a firefighter. But
what's the predominant criteria for hiring them, is it, Oh,
she's a lesbian. Okay, Now let's see can she do
the job or can she do the job? Does she
score as high as the men? Can she pick up
a two hundred pound man? If you're in a fire,
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can she throw you over her shoulder like most all
male firefighters can do and run you out of there?
Did they have the upper body strength to do that?
Or are they gonna go? Oops? Sorry, you shouldn't have
gott yourself in that situation. Yeah, Jeff pickax, pickaxe, pickaxe man,
what is going on? Tell us about the happenings over
at your social media company. You're gonna don't realize we
(34:51):
had a real tech bro on our show. Guys.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Yeah, no, yeah, it's it's well, it's been fun just
be just working on it, and I've obviously learned a
lot about like all the all the tech and free
speech and all the all the hurdles you have to
you have to jump over in order to actually be
a truly free speech social media platform. But so we're
we're kind of a transitioning from our beta phase where
we worked out all the kinks, worked out all the bugs,
all that kind of stuff. We're now in pre launch
and then we're gonna be doing our official launch once
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we finish our app. We're right now we're web based only,
but work on on an iPhone and Android app that'll
be out in the next couple of months. Have some
really cool features, but are our really big focus is
obviously preserving free speech, but then also on top of that,
helping content creators to have more direct access to their audience,
you know, and we're gonna have some really cool features
that roll out from that standpoint, help helping creators to monetize.
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Our algorithms are are built so that way it'll it'll
help you to not to not have to play the
algorithm game in order to be seen. If somebody follows you,
that means that they actually want to see what what
what you're what you're posting. So we're doing we're doing
a lot when it when it comes to that. But
people can sign up over at over at pickax dot
com and you can actually enjoy free free speech. We've
(35:57):
got a lot of phenomenal people that are already in the
platform and you guys already have accounts. Matt Couch we're
bringing on. He's our he's our director of Creator Relations,
so he's working with with our with our creators on
the platform directly helping them to succeed and thrive and
all of that, and Vandersteele on there, Karen Kingston's coming
on there. We've got a bunch of phenomenal people that
are on there. But I've also got a really really
cool announcement that's actually gonna direct directly impact you guys
(36:20):
as well that I don't know if you guys actually
know this, but Matt Catt, Matt Couch and I have
been working for the last couple of months. We're going
to rebrand and relaunch Freedom First Network and basically starting
a new network or so it's gonna be Maverick Broadcasting Network.
You're probably gonna officially be launching this week, maybe next week,
depending on just a couple of couple of logistics. But
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we're what we're gonna rebrand, relaunch, We're setting We're setting
up a substect where we'll have email communication with with
all of our audience. We're setting up a brand new
Rumble channel that we're all gonna be, you know, building
together with. With with all that, we're bringing on some
some new uh some new shows onto the network with
really large followings on X And we'll be making those
announcements in the in the coming days and weeks, So
(37:04):
make sure that you guys are subscribing. We're going to
be doing the transition, the switchover on all the branding
and all that kind of stuff, and it's gonna it's
gonna be a lot of fun. And I think that
heading into this new this new term of President Trump,
in this new term of this country, I think I
think it's time for the rebrand to relaunch, and uh,
we're gonna make a run at this thing so.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Well, rebranding and relaunching of a network, but also rebranding
and relaunching of a country that needed. Jeff Dornick of
Pickax Fame, thank you so much for joining us, and
we will see you on down the trail.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Sounds good. Thanks guys, All right, I did that.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I want to bring us something. Do you notice the
college athletes.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
And just more and more athletes are bringing up God
and Jesus Christ and the coaches and everything.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
You see that. But then I was thinking about it.
I was watching Pete Hegseth in his in his confirmation
and he invokes Jesus Christ in the first ninety seconds.
He's there in the in the Senate chamber, a non
military industrial complex guy. He doesn't come from from a
you know, some defense contractors, not a lobbyist, just an
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ordinary guy who's served, who's invoking Jesus Christ. Yeah, there's
been a cultural awakening in this country. And I think it's,
you know, out of the darkness comes light. I think
all the things we've been seeing, and you know, Bob,
that's really been your wheelhouse. Calling it out is demonic
as it has been the things that we've seen going on.
And I think Americans at at their very heart, we
are a godly people. We are you know that that
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is rooted in our culture, and we we got away
from that for too long. And despite how you worship
or who you worship, I think the idea that we're
not alone. I think the world can be a scary
place sometimes. And you know, your TV is not your God.
Your social media influencers are not your God. There is
a father in heaven, and you know, I think it
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comforts people, and that lack of spiritualism has led us
down the road we've been on, which we realize that
for a culture, sure, and historically speaking, I look at
the Roman Empire. I mean, when you start, you know,
loading up on the sin, the vice, the drinking, the pornography,
the frivolous, you know, sexual promiscuity. That's when bad things happen.
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Strong cultures are held together by strong moral values. And
we can disagree on politics, and we're going to disagree
on politics. I really hope we do because we don't
want to be a group thing type of country. We
don't want to have one party rule. We want to
hold our leaders accountable despite how much we may support
those leaders. But at the same time, we're human beings
and I think Americans have a lot more in common
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than we do with what divides us. And like I've
always said, Bob, it's not necessarily substantial differences, it's stylistic differences.
And I think that God, country, and family, regardless of
which God you worship, and regardless of what your family
looks like, I think those are all things that are
important to us. With that thing said, guys, thank you
for tuning in. I did not put a rank of Patreon,
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so Patreon, dot com, slash Bob and Eric. Everything you
give helps keep the show keep going and hopefully in
Death League because we love doing this. It's a lot
of fun and it's different now here we come in.
We spent the last four years as the critics and
now we're on you know. I mean, look, we're not
We're not news commentators, we're more social commentators. So we
can certainly have our bias in our opinion. Not to
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say we're not gonna hold our leaders accountable, because I
guarantee you we're gonna hold them accountable regardless of how
much we may support them. But at the same time,
it feels good to be on the winning team.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Up.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
It really does. Two and two, two days, baby ord
eight hours for the next four years, I think it's
gonna be great. I think one thing. One closing. I
think the stock market it's gonna be closed on Monday
because of a holiday. I think Tuesday you're gonna see
a thousand point jump for more. It's I can see that.
What about them bitcoin bit the economy, the world is
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responding to Trump, and the economy is responding Trump. The world,
the economy are getting ready for a new America. And
the strong America is a strong world, is a strong economy,
and so on and so forth. It follows. So we'll
see that. Guys. We'll see you next week with a
new president.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, I keep America, you keep America. We'll keep American gree.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
How keep America. You keep America, We'll keep America. Agree,
Keep America. You keep America.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We'll keep Americ.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Congree, ha, keep Americ.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Can you keep America? Well? Keep amer could gree ah
keep Americ? Can you jep America?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Well?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Keep amver cocree.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Welcome to Bob and Eric Save American Podcast. My name
is Bob Dunelast and my name is Eric Matteini. Thank
you all for tuning in on this historic Saturday, the
last Saturday of the Biden administration. God bless America. Can't wait.
I can't wait either. It has been so long in
the making. We have worked, we have toiled, just the
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effort that we have put forth, and I've always said
this to you guys that this was a group effort.
I have never had an election before in my lifetime
where I felt like I took some part in it. Yeah.
I think the work that we do here is very impactful.
And like I said, I've given credit where credits do.
I've given credit to the Daily Mean team, to all
the content creators, everybody who really, you know, for lack
(01:16):
of a better way of putting it, like a grassroots
campaign for a major candidate. Yeah, Yeah, we're alive. Well
because because the Democrats completely outspent us. You know, bear
in mind. Yeah, we are going to bring in the
big boss man himself, the head of Freedom First Network, Gorneck.
He's got his pick at hat On, He's got the
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merch already. Look at that, Jeff. We were just talking
about this on this historic Saturday, the last Saturday of
the Biden administration. Now, I'm a bit of a presidential historian.
I've been fascinated by that since I was a little kid,
and I got to ask you, how do you think,
let's let's go fifty one hundred years in the future,
what is history going to say about the Biden presidency
(01:58):
the years twenty twenty one to that little blip in
your history book. What are they going to say?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Honestly, so if if they, you know, report on the
truth when it comes to history, which we all know
depends on who's in power and all that kind of stuff.
But I mean, when you think about it, that's going
to be the probably the biggest fraud in American history.
I Mean, you literally have a sitting president that's you know,
for lack of a better word, is just a trojan horse.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
He's just there.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
He's a facade other people are pulling the strings behind
the scenes. I mean, I mean, you know, yes, there's
always been you know, the the puppeteers and the behind
the scenes people that call the shots. Go back to
George Bush and Dick Cheney and like the whole deal.
But you look at this. He's literally just goes up
there and reads a script and says, yeah, this is
this is what I'm doing. Well, everybody else is making
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the decision.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
See signs.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
The signature reads the script and that's about it. When
you actually think about it, it's like the largest fraud
that's been pulled in the White House in American history.
And I think it's it's gonna be a really, really
awful stain on the history of this country that we
kind of allowed that to happen. But luckily it was
only four years and then they pulled the whole the
(03:05):
old switcheroo with Kamala Harris, and now here we are
with Trump coming back in.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I was thinking about this last night. I was thinking
about this. I think the next four years will make
the previous four years worth it. I think what we
have in store for us this time around will make
having endured Abiden Harris administration worth it. In the long run,
I see Trump as a different person. I see Trump
(03:32):
as a changed man. He has been through things that
we can't imagine. This is a guy who was a billionaire,
who sleeps with a supermodel, has this great life, who
didn't need this, and he's been indicted ninety one times, tried, convicted, impeached, shot,
gone through hell and a lot of people. As much
as we love Trump, we got to think, like, what
is motivating this man? You got all the money in
(03:53):
the world, you didn't need this. I do believe it's
an abiding love of country. I really believe, as flawed
as the man may be, and I've never agreed with
him one hundred percent. And Jeff you, you and I
have both been vocal critics of Trump, and we will
continue to be vocal critics. I don't ben the need
of any man, but to think, what is it that
drives this man to continue? Is something otherworldly. I think
(04:13):
it's something that perhaps mere mortals can't understand. That he's
just made out of different stuff. I mean, being a
target like that, having people out there, you know, trying, honestly,
in my opinion, trying to assassinate you, is probably the
least of my worries. I'd be more worried about spending
my life in prison having people come after me the
way that they did, And he keeps going and keeps
(04:35):
having the will to fight. Do you what do you think?
How do you think he is different coming into twenty
twenty five than he was coming into twenty seventeen. Is
it he's different, Is it the country's different? Or is
it both?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Would I would say both.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I think when it comes to when it comes to
Trump specifically, I think he understands who is going up against.
I don't think he understood time around who he was
going up against. I think he thought when he went in.
You go back and you look at a lot of
his early speeches, when that he gave during that initial campaign,
you know, it was, Oh, we're going to break apart
the corruption between the rich, wealthy people that are buying
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off politicians Like that was the level of quote unquote
deep state that I think that he was talking about.
And then he gets in there and then he sees, Look,
there's corruption in the Republican Party, there's corruption in the
Democrat Party, there's coruption every single agency known to mankind.
I think he got in there and he could affect
all the change that he needed to on his own
to to a certain degree, and he would trust certain
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people to get in there, and clearly writes previous in
the establishment GOP totally led him and totally led him astray.
They worked against him the entire time. And I think
this time around he realizes, no, this is serious. I mean,
we're dealing with rogue intelligence agencies that tried to undermine
his presidency throughout the entirety before his presidency, during his presidency,
after his presidency. I mean, you've got everything from the
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setup with January sixth, You've got everything that they did
with FLAM and UH and Roger Stone and Donald Trump himself.
You've got Russia Gate. You've got all these things with
the agencies. Now we're seeing through RFK, we're seeing the
the and the COVID, You're seeing the corruption and the
health agencies that tied with Big Pharma. You're seeing the
corruption everywhere. And I think he finally realized, no, this
(06:18):
is so deep seated. I have to have this super team,
this dream team, to come in and we've got We've
got a white we've got a clean house.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We've got to fix this mess.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And then you throw on top of that the multiple
assassination attempts that where they were trying to take him
out heading as he was literally campaigning to run for president,
and then you see the mainstream media basically hardly talk
about it like that should have been one of the
biggest questions that they asked him in every single debate,
and they didn't even like mention it at all during
(06:47):
the debates that there was an assassination attempt Could you
imagine if if there was a couple assassination attempts on
Kamala Harris or Joe Biden, that would have been the
central theme of the rhetoric and the violence and all
that kind of stuff, and it was they just covered
it up. So I think that he realizes heading in
this time, the corruption is so deep. It's so much
deeper than I think he ever anticipated. And so that's
(07:08):
why I'm thankful that these guys like He's got guys
like RFK Junior and Toulci Gabbard and Cash Betel and
all these guys coming in where they understand.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
The level of corruption that needs it that they have
to take on.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
And also, you know, I know Trump has talked about
this and I know Rfk's talked about this, but there
was RFK was asked one time about, you know, if
he fears for his life, you know, talking about the
things and the entities that he's taking on, and he's like,
there's worse things than dying. Part of it is losing
our freedom, losing our humanity, losing our ability to be free,
Like that's worth dying for. And I think that I
(07:41):
think that this administration understands that. And uh and I
you know, I think that they they all understand it's
now or never.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
This is do or die time.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It is Bob, I gotta say I've noticed, and tell
me if I'm right. It looks like all these people
who six months ago were calling for Trump's head are
now wanting to to cozy up to him because they
want to be on the winning team. You're mark Zuckerberg's guys,
like that Snoop Dogg, who famously made a video showing
him shooting Trump, is now performing at an inauguration party.
(08:11):
What is this shift we're seeing, especially with Zuckerberg, because
I don't trust him. It's like an eighth grader trying
to fit in. I don't trust the switch on Zuckerberg,
even the way he's trying to come across his shaggy hair,
like he's trying to go from this like reptilian techno
lord to some like right wing podcast bros. What's that?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
I think they gave him an ultimatum, You're either going
to make Facebook and Instagram a free speech or we're
gonna go after you.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Another one that you didn't mention is Bill Gates going
down there. It's spending three hours with him. That guy
is so evil.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
I guess they're all just trying not to get arrested
and hung in a military tribunal.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
What see. That's the thing that gets me though, is
the Bill Gates. I understand he's the president. I understand
when you're the president. You know, we could sit here
and we could criticize that, we could condemn. We have
no idea what goes on in Washington. The same thing
I said when Mike Johnson was voted speaker again, I said, look,
it's not my first choice, but I'm not going to
(09:11):
sit here and pretend like I understand how Washington works
from the inside. I'm sure in Donald Trump, you know,
when you're at that level of the game, when you're
a billionaire. When you're at the top of the world,
you don't really have friendships. You really have mutually beneficial
relationships and things that are advantageous to you. I'm sure
there are some advantages, you know, being friendly with Bill Gates.
(09:34):
He's very powerful, he's very wealthy. I think he's as
evil as you as you do, Bob. I think he
should be thrown in a military prison till the day
he dies. I think he's The vaccines that he's introduced
to Indian Africa have killed people. It's documented. It's well,
no no one wants to talk about it. But then
you have the other side that's saying, well, you know,
keep your enemies close. You know, I don't, Jeff, what
(09:55):
do you think he's having Bill Gates come to Marlow
over three years? What could he possibly have in common
with this guy?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Well, so it's it's interesting looking looking at it. Uh,
from the perspective of Trump, I get it, because to
to a certain degree, you're you're trying, you You're you're
the president of the United States. There's these powerful people.
Bill Gates one of the most wealthy men in the
on the entire planet. I unless unless you literally have
a smoking gun that that shows uh that you know,
(10:26):
shows emails of him saying that he doesn't care that
that that kids are dying in Africa or whatever it is.
It would be very hard to prosecute him and lock
him up in a in a military you know, prison
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yeah, So so I think that then the next step
would be, Okay, what can what How can I at
least co opt some of these guys in order to
either alleviate some of the division and the craziness and
all that kind of stuff, or push them in a
particular direction that I can take advantage of it. I
think that's specifically what's happened with guys like Jeff Bezos
and Mark Zuckerberg and all these guys. Uh, you know,
(10:58):
like like I remember watching the entire zucker interview with
Joe Rogan, and I'm just sitting here. I'm like, you're
blaming everybody else but yourself. It's the Biden administration, it's
the fact checkers, it's the algorithms. He's like, he's trying
to position himself as like I didn't do anything wrong.
It was just went crazy. I didn't try to do anything.
The I think to a certain degree, a lot of
these guys are trying to position themselves to where they're
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not going to see the DOJ investigate them and come
after them, because, in my opinion, you look at Facebook
and Instagram, they should be prosecuted for violating our First
Amendment rights because they were working as agents of the
federal government, because they were doing the bidding of the
federal government, as opposed to coming forward and saying no.
Look the Joe Biden administration. They're cussing and swearing at
my guys. They're trying to pressure us into into violating
(11:40):
free speech. But we're going to we're gonna, you know,
expose them and all that.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
He didn't do that.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He waits until Trump's coming in and then he comes
forward and then points the finger at everybody else but
my problem, and this is my problem, and then I'll
throw it back to you guys. So Trump's doing this
with guys like Zuckerberg and Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos
and all these you know Silicon Valley billionaires are they're
all coalescing around Trump. Okay, great, for four years, we
may have them do the bidding of Donald Trump. Because
(12:05):
they're afraid of Trump's you know, sticking you know, the
DOJ on them and investigating them for probably crimes and
corruption and collusion and the whole deal.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Right, But what happens after the four.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Years if we don't prosecute and hold people accountable that
violate the law, whether you're talking about Pauci or Zuckerberg
or Bill Gates or any of these guys, if we
don't hold them accountable, then sure, we'll have four years,
four years of reprieve for reprieve from all this. But
then what happens after that? Let's say a Democrat gets
in after Donald Trump? Are they just going to go
back to censoring again, because we're not actually fixing the problem,
(12:35):
We're putting a band aid on it. If we don't
hold you guys accountable for the crimes that they committed.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What if Kamala one You think Zcher would have done
when he's done, No, not, he'd be the loudest one
condemning Trump. They all would. I think Jeff's one hundred
percent right. I think it's self interest across the board.
But Jeff makes a very interesting point, and I've talked
about this a lot. If what Zuckerberg is saying is true.
If the Biden administration, if there was any government involvement
in censoring what Facebook was able to put out there,
algorithms they were releasing, how they were able to facilitate
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information being disseminated, that's a First Amendment issue. If Mark Zuckerberg,
as the owner of Facebook, says I want to elevate
this speech and I want to suppress this speech, that's
not a First Amendment issue. I have shouted at that,
primarily at conservatives till I'm blue in the face. Guys,
you don't have a constitutional right to a Twitter account.
If the government comes in and says, hey, Twitter, I
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don't like what Jeff is saying, I don't like what
Bob is saying, suppress them, make sure that their followers
can't see their messages, that's a First Amendment issue because
you have government action. So that necessitates a larger investigation
as to what was the Biden administration doing, namely as
it relates to Hunter's laptop. Because we talk a lot
about the twenty twenty election. There's a lot of truth,
there's a lot of fiction as far as it goes.
But the one thing that I think we can all
(13:45):
agree upon is that Hunter's laptop was real. That story
was heavily suppressed by social media. There was government action
in suppressing that. You know, fifty one intelligence agents signed
off on it, said it was Russian disinformation. We find
out true, We find out it's true, and then Biden
ends up pardoning his kid for basically all the content
(14:06):
to ten years worth content that's on there, so that
necessitates investigation. Investigation is one of those buzzwords they throw around.
It's kind of like the checks in the mail. She
goes to a different school, It's like nothing's ever gonna happen, Like, yeah,
I'll call you, Yeah, we'll get the other, we'll have lunch,
and you don't see him for ten years. You know that?
That to me is just kicking the can down the road.
I think we do need to see accountability. The government
(14:26):
is out of control. The government has gone mad with power.
January sixth is one of the prime examples of that.
How they set up this event, created a crime to
entrap American so they could demonize half populations. Say, look
at those radical conservatives. They're violent, violent white supremacy. What
they like to talk about Monday. Do you think we're
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going to see a mass pardon or do you think
it's going to take longer than one day.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't know, because I think I think that there's
there's some debate, there's some internal debate about do they
do a blanket pardon for everybody or do they do
it on a more case by case basis, Because I
I think I think they're there. I think the and
I think the question hinges around are we are we
going to include in the pardons, uh, you know, people
that did commit you know, actual acts of either violence
(15:14):
or you know, breaking windows or whatever it is. Where
where do we draw the line? And it's and so
I think that I think that there's some internal discussion
about Okay, who who's who's actually going to get pardoned?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
In in my in my opinion, in this is my
personal opinion, I think that I could see a scenario
where we can see we can see a completely you know,
blanket pardon, because you can make the argument that even
those that let's say they broke a window or whatever
it is, that weren't FBI informants are working on behalf
of the intelligence agencies, but that those people were entrapped,
that that that those people also have not experienced due
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process because a lot of them have been sitting and
rotting in prison, you know, uh, you know, without any
you know, a lot of times access to attorneys or
a whole host of things. So there could be an
argument that that practically anybody should be part and altogether.
But also you also have to look at and unfortunately
this is the game of politics, you have to look
at the pr side of things. If Donald Trump pardons
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people that did commit acts of violence, or broke windows,
or broke down doors, or committed certain kinds of crimes,
how does that look to the American people that the
president just pardoned these people as opposed to holding them accountable.
You can make You could easily make the case that
you know, Grandma that they're chasing down in the middle
of Timbuck to Tennessee, you know, should be pardoned. But
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so a lot of it's gonna come down to can
they get the right messaging, can they get the right rhetoric,
can they get the right pr spin on doing a
blanket pardon.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
So it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I don't know if it's gonna come day one, but
I think it will come very very shortly. It's just
I think they have to work through some of those things.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I got to say something on that point about the
breaking the window. A lot of the liberals, a lot
of the people say, well, if you broke windows, you
know what, Jeff, I'm a criminal defense attorney. Everybody knows that.
If you come to my office and you say, Eric,
I got arrested for criminal mischief. I broke a window,
you know what I'm gonna get you pay for the
cost of the window. Case dismissed, Conditional dismissal, maybe a
slap on the wrist, maybe twenty five community service hours.
(17:06):
Have a good day. If you punch a cop, if
you have too many beers at the airport and you're
trying to board your spirit flight to the Bahamas and
you punch a tsah and punch a cop. If you
have no prior history, probably get your probation. Nobody deserves
what the January six ers have gone through. Oh he
broke a window. If you go down the street right
now in any neighborhood in America and you break a window,
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if you're in a blue city, nothing will happen. They'll
write a police report and that'll be it. If you're
down in Miami Beach and you break a storefront window,
they'll charge you with a crime, and you'll be disposed
of accordingly and commensurate with people who are in your situation,
who have similar prior histories, or no prior histories. You'll
probably get it dismissed. So they'll breaking the window argument
doesn't hold any water with me, because any other setting,
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any other day of the week, that would be a
minor offense, even an assault on a police officer. I've
gotten people cases dismissed, People get deferd prosecution for that
all the time. So the fact that first and foremost,
we have to accept the fact that they were never
there to overthrow the government. The government was never in
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any danger of being overthrown by an unarmed mob of
maybe two thousand people. And I've said it, and I'll
say it here, and I'll say it everywhere. If Americans
wanted to overthrow the government, we could, and that's our
constitution some degree enables that to happen. It's why we
have a Second Amendment. It's our check and balance against
the power of government. If Americans wanted to organize a
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military and get weapons and go to stage a coup.
It can happen. It can happen here the same as
it happens in other countries and does happen in other countries.
So to think that this crowd that came there for
a speech to hear President Trump and march to the
capital to protests that was taken to the next level
one through provocateurs in the crowd and two and Bob
(18:51):
and I have interviewed I can't tell you how many
J sixers we've had on this program where they all
say the same thing. Hey, I saw the cop step aside,
I saw people walking, I fall owed him in. So
those people, I think, without without even batt and I,
I mean, that should be pardoned on day one. I
understand I want and I know people want blanket partons
across the board, and that's what I want to see.
(19:13):
I understand what the crowd wants. I understand what the
people want. I understand what has to happen. And Pam
Bonby did say it like she does have to review
it on a case by case basis, so it's probably
not all gonna happen on Monday. I do think he
does have the authority. He does absolutely have the authority
to issue some sort of blanket pardon for certain offenses,
like if you're only charged with like the disorderly conduct
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or things like that, which is basically just going into
the Capitol and making noise, that could be a blanket part.
And on day one, I think there are cases he's
gonna have to evaluate on a case by case basis,
just because that's the process, and that's what happens. Despite
people are gonna be bitching and complaining, but he's not
even an office yet, and conservatives bitching complained about everything already.
So I mean, guys like this is why we can't
have nice things, be happy when the election, Joe Biden's
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political career kabla arass political career is over. So that
being said, I think what you're going to see, truthfully,
the honest, you know, the part of me that wants
to rally up the crowd and get excited, pardons for all,
and I want that to happen, But I think the
reality of what's gonna happen. You're gonna have pardons for many,
You're gonna have a lot of commutations. You're gonna have
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people that may have committed offenses that were not as
minor as others slightly more egregious that may have been sentenced.
I think all those sentences will be commuted. That's why
I think the reality of what's gonna happen, whether you
agree with it or not, whether you like it or not,
that's just what's gonna happen. But I do think that
anybody who's been sentenced to prison, I think their prison
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terms are over. I don't think you're gonna see anybody
serving any time longer than maybe in the next couple
of weeks that these terms are over. I've talked to
Enrique Tarrio's lawyers or two colleagues of mine, the friends.
I just had coffee with one of them the other day.
The pardon paperwork is in the in the works. It's
happenings you speak, and I think Trio. I think Tarrio
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might actually get pardoned because he wasn't there. He wasn't there,
and he was the face of the Proud Boys, and
you know the whole standby, stand back thing that Trump
said and kind of put them on the map. They
wanted to get him. He's just something. He's a big deerhead.
He hang over the mammal piece that wanted to get
him with big target. Does he deserve twenty two years
in prison?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Did he deserve twenty two days in prison? Now I
think he will get pardoned. I think some of the
people who maybe were involved in tussles with cops and
things like that will get commuted. Our good buddy Bob
big O'barnett, who his only crime was putting his speed
up on Nancy Pelosi's desk and he got four years
for that, I think he gets crossing. But I don't know, man,
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it's uh, well, it happens.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Right, but but but I think I think it's interesting because,
like I just thought in Brandon's truck posted, I think
it was either last night or today that the that
the the DOJ is is still filing charges today for
j six offenses. And so the latest one that that
I just saw today was they went after this guy's
like a fifty nine year old guy. Oun't I think Arkansas,
I forget what his name is. And and they're they're
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filing charges both misdemeanor and felony charges because and and
and they're saying that he assaulted a cop and he
did this and well and in the article and in
the report that they filed with with the court, they
literally said that the FBI went in and interviewed him
back in July of twenty twenty four, So what was
that six months ago?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Whatever it is?
Speaker 5 (22:23):
They're just now filing charges that basically practically the day
before Trump takes office. What's going on there? But but
they're saying that. They're saying that he assaulted a coffee,
grabbed a baton, he tried to eat whatever it is. Well,
you look at what his explanation was. He's like, look,
this cop was trying to attack somebody else that was
in the crowd, and I was grabbing his baton and
told him to knock it off, and if you do,
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then I will I will basically, I will hurt you
if if you hurt this other guy. But he basically
and and so then then they then they filed the
picture from the bodycam footage of the guy grabbing the
baton to try obviously they're trying to make it look
like he's a violent whatever it is. And I'm sitting
there thinking, I'm like, nowhere in this report did they
say that he was wrong. Nowhere in this report did
they say, you know that the bodycam footage proves that
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he wasn't trying to defend somebody, but he was going
on the offensive and attacking this cop. And so you're
sitting here and you're like, okay, so, but what if
what he's saying is true, should he really be prosecuted
for defending somebody else from a cop that's trying to
beat somebody with a baton? Probably not. And so that's
where it's like, Okay, so I get making with Trump.
Make a blanket pardon for anybody with misdemeanor crimes, and
then take anything where there's felony charges, take it on
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a case by case basis. But I guarantee you that
on a case by case basis, a lot of these
charges for a lot of these guys will immediately be
dropped because there is no evidence that I'm seeing in
any of these charges that would actually support a felony
crime or prosecution or jail time. Like you said, maybe
it would be some sort of restitution, Maybe it would
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be community service, maybe it'd be probation, or maybe for
a handful of these things, maybe it would be a
short prison sentence, but a short prison sentence, not decades,
not where a lot of these guys are gonna die
and rotten prison. Like to me, that's where you start
getting into the case by case and you come up
with the justification why you're presenting the pardon. And I
think that there could actually be a legitimate case where
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almost everybody gets a pardon, even on the case by
case basis.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I think so. But remember that disorderly conduct with the
intent to disrupt an official proceeding is a felony. So
if there is something going on the certification of the
election and you walk into the building create any kind
of disturbance, that automatically is going to be a felony.
So people who walked into the building, most of them
were charged with felonies. And it's funny. We're watching the
confirmation hearings this week for Pambondi, for Pete's Haig Seth,
(24:39):
and we're seeing people in the chamber shouting and disrupting
unofficial proceeding. Do you think any of those guys are
gonna be charged with a felony?
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
They're gonna be ushered out of there and given a
trespass warning. Only when conservatives do it? Is it a crime?
That being said? But we got inauguration day Monday. It's
a day of celebration but also a day of caution.
They moved it indoors. Jeff, do you think that's scheical weather?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, so it's going to be freezing cold. The reality
of it is is that like historics, I mean, there's
definitely been inaugurations that have been in the snow. I
think the high because I was originally intending to go,
and then you know, we're not going for a variety
of reasons. Got a lot going on with pickax and
all that kind of stuff. But I think the high
to the high end Monday is gonna be like twenty
three degrees. The low is gonna be ten, So I
know it's going to be freezing cold. I don't know
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if that's the reason why. I've also heard reports that
there was that there's a security threat, but also from
that standpoint, it would have to be a legitimately serious
security threat in my opinion to change the entire inauguration
and the location of the inauguration and take it inside.
So I don't know what's going on. To be honest,
I can make the argument either way. I would I
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mean for them to move the inauguration, when they've been
preparing and spending countless millions of dollars on that, and
all the security protocols that they set in and all
the staging and all the setup, and then last minute
they move it inside. My guess would be that there's
probably some sort of serious threat on President Trump for
them to make that drastic of a change last minute.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Good point. What do you think, Bobby? You agree?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
I forgot about the millions of dollars they've spent sitting
up the stage and everything else, and for them just
to throw that away, I think it is a security threat.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Well, this is a guy who there he got shot
on national TV. He was almost shot, but for they
caught the guy you know in his little nest over
by the golf course. He's had two attempts on his
life that we know of. So I think, you know,
putting safety first before any optics in anything ceremonious, because
it's really what the inauguration is is mainly ceremonious, but
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obviously safety is first. Do you think you're going to
see what we saw in twenty seventeen riots in the
street of DC. I just don't see the fire on
the left right now, I think a lot. I really
I called it a couple of weeks ago. I think
the Democrats are a conquered people. Do you get that, Jeff?
I really sense like they are a defeated, conquered people
who have laid down their arms and are just trying
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to regroup to figure out what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Maybe I think to a certain degree there is a
certain level of that. I but also at the same time,
when you when you look at the Democrat leadership, obviously
I don't I don't see them as being a conquered people.
Uh in general, you know, my my impression is that
they they realize that that they ramp things up, and
they kind of have egg on their face with with
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Kamala Harris. I think a lot of them thought that
they'd be able to just push push her over the edge.
They didn't realize just how pissed off the American people
are at the Democrat Party. So I think that probably
what they're gonna do is they're gonna probably lie low
for a little bit, regroup, and then they're going to
go back to their same tactics that they've always did.
So division and I've been telewarning people for the longest time.
(27:45):
The next four years is going to be the worst
division that we've seen in American history. Have to be
very prepared because every single thing that that Donald Trump does,
they're gonna they're they're going to try to pit the
American people against it, because guess what, the Democrats still
control the media, they still control Hollywood, they still control
basically all the levels of influence that they controlled before
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they just lost an election. So the question is let
it all down, let it all die down, and then
what will end up happening is the American people forget
that they were, that they all have egg on their
face because we have such short attention spans and the
twenty four hour news cycle, and then they'll come back
and then do the same old tactics and do whatever
they can. Luckily, though, we do have control of both
legislative branches, so where we're not at least for two years,
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we're not going to be having impeachment proceedings, So at
least we've got a little bit of a little bit
of wiggle room there. But I think that they're going
to be pitying us against each other.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
For the next four years, not have the media anymore,
the social media X two social rumble. I think we're
debunking things like seconds. For example, CNN just got slapped
with a five million dollar deformation suit, So I think
the mainstream media is bye bye.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I totally agree with Bob. I think that the influence
of the Democrats is a fraction of what it was. CNN,
their media powerhouse is bleeding viewers. I mean, they probably
have more employees than they do regular viewers over there.
At CNN. We are the media that's one hundred percent true,
and we owe that to Elon Musk. His purchase of
(29:15):
Twitter was I think I put that down. There's like
Gutenberg's printing press. It was in the in the history
of mass communication that shifted the balance from corporate media
to guys like us, and it enabled us to have
a voice and get information out there. And we always
say it when news breaks, when you hear something, Jeff,
someone sends you a message, oh my god, did you
(29:35):
see this? Are you going, hey, let's put on the TV.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Are you going to pickaxs, You're going to X, You're
going to truth social to social media to see what
is going on, because that's where the news is there
are guys that I trust more on X and on
media platforms than I do on the news, and that
goes across the board, from Democrat, Republican independent news sources.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I don't watch Fox News, I don't watch CNN, I
don't watch MSNBC. I see what's going on from ordinary people.
I think journalists is probably one of those careers that
used to be respectable and it's fallen tremendously. I don't
think the Democrats are necessarily gonna be the biggest enemy
in the next four years. I don't know how divided
we're gonna be because one, I see a lot of
(30:16):
people jumping on the Trump bandwagon. One because I think, yes,
there's an advantage to that, because Trump's in power, and
two because I think it's fashionable now, you know, like
we sit here like I like Donald Trump. Before it
was cool to do that, and now everybody's rallying around him.
I think our biggest fight over the next four years
is gonna be establishment Republicans. I think we're gonna be
fighting Lindsay Graham, Jony Earns. I think we're gonna be
(30:38):
fighting them tooth and nail on everything from here on out.
And you know, Jeff before we let you go, and
I want to hear some stuff about what's going on
with Pickaxe. What do you think twenty twenty eight's got
to look like? Because I remember Democrats are always thinking four, eight,
twelve years ahead. Kamala Harris blue her shot. Gavin Newsom
blew his shot. He's done. He doesn't have the political capital.
(30:59):
What are they going to do otherwise? Jd Vance run
the Santis, whoever's gonna steamroll whoever they put up in
twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I don't I don't see any
So I don't see anybody that the Democrats are grooming
to run for president besides Gavin Newsom. And and luckily,
luckily for us, we're seeing the catastrophe of the gave
of Gavin Newsom's handling of California, with the with the
fires and all the craziness that's going on out here
in the in this insane communist state that I that
(31:27):
I live in. But if anybody, if anybody, can lie
themselves to the presidency, it is Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom
is the country's best liar. He will lie to you
with a smile on your face. And I bet you
he can pass a polygraph test like like, that's that's
Gavin Neusom. So if the Democrats are going to dig
their heels in and can you continue to push their
insanely left anti Trump, you know, push Gavenusom's probably their
(31:52):
best bet. If if the Democrats were smart, they would
eat Crow and they would come back to somebody like
an RFK junior and say like, look, you represent us
next time around, because he would probably be their only
legitimate shot at actually having at actually bringing back the
independence back over to the Democrat Party. I don't foresee
that happening because then they all have deep Crow and
I don't Again I don't, I don't see that happening.
(32:13):
So in all reality, my guess and my assumption is
that they're probably they're probably going to continue to groom
Gavin Newsom to run, because again he's a phenomenal liar.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I don't see anybody else on the horizon that would
that would be that would have a legitimate shot to
debate a JD Vance or a Rond Descantis or whoever
it is, because they all they would all get destroyed.
The only person that I could see holding their own
would be a Gavin Newsom because he's the world's best,
most phenomenal liar in the history of mankind.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
They won't do it. The fire destroyed him. They know
he has no appeal outside of California. His appeal in
California is slim to none. Josh Shapiro, one of our
one of our viewers, has suggested a cherry thank you
for that. Josh Shapiro, I've always said I thought I
thought the Kamala Harris would have done much better had
she picked him instead of Waltz. But the Democrats could
(33:02):
not courted you because they want to appeal to their
pro mus Win. Yeah, but I think I think the
era of identity politics is over, Bob. We started talking
about that in twenty nineteen when we were in the
thick of the woke phase of our existence. I think
it is accepted that twenty twenty four was the year
that that died. DEI initiatives are being scrapped from a
(33:26):
number of companies, number of cities. We saw what DEI
did in Los Angeles. I mean basically, fire departments that
prioritize well, we have a lesbian fire chief and you know,
a burning you know, if my roof is collapsing on
men underneath a pile of burning rubble, I'm like, please
don't let a white man rescue me. Please don't let
a white man rescue me. But I'll tell you I
think it's it's over. I think people are going to
(33:47):
go back to more common sense. The transgender issues, those
are widely unpopular across the board. So I think you're
going to see a candidate not necessarily based on what
they look like or who they are. I think just
whoever's the most qualified, whoever that may be. You're not
gonna have a situation like Joe Biden comes out and
says my running mate will be a woman of color.
You're not gonna have a Democrat do that. They're gonna say,
I'm going to pick the best person for the job,
(34:08):
whoever that may be. And again, no one's saying that
your fire chief can't be a lesbian, or no one's
saying that, you know, woman can't be a firefighter. But
what's the predominant criteria for hiring them, is it, Oh,
she's a lesbian. Okay, Now let's see can she do
the job or can she do the job? Does she
score as high as the men? Can she pick up
a two hundred pound man? If you're in a fire,
(34:30):
can she throw you over her shoulder like most all
male firefighters can do and run you out of there?
Did they have the upper body strength to do that?
Or are they gonna go? Oops? Sorry, you shouldn't have
gott yourself in that situation. Yeah, Jeff pickax, pickaxe, pickaxe man,
what is going on? Tell us about the happenings over
at your social media company. You're gonna don't realize we
(34:51):
had a real tech bro on our show. Guys.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Yeah, no, yeah, it's it's well, it's been fun just
be just working on it, and I've obviously learned a
lot about like all the all the tech and free
speech and all the all the hurdles you have to
you have to jump over in order to actually be
a truly free speech social media platform. But so we're
we're kind of a transitioning from our beta phase where
we worked out all the kinks, worked out all the bugs,
all that kind of stuff. We're now in pre launch
and then we're gonna be doing our official launch once
(35:15):
we finish our app. We're right now we're web based only,
but work on on an iPhone and Android app that'll
be out in the next couple of months. Have some
really cool features, but are our really big focus is
obviously preserving free speech, but then also on top of that,
helping content creators to have more direct access to their audience,
you know, and we're gonna have some really cool features
that roll out from that standpoint, help helping creators to monetize.
(35:36):
Our algorithms are are built so that way it'll it'll
help you to not to not have to play the
algorithm game in order to be seen. If somebody follows you,
that means that they actually want to see what what
what you're what you're posting. So we're doing we're doing
a lot when it when it comes to that. But
people can sign up over at over at pickax dot
com and you can actually enjoy free free speech. We've
(35:57):
got a lot of phenomenal people that are already in the
platform and you guys already have accounts. Matt Couch we're
bringing on. He's our he's our director of Creator Relations,
so he's working with with our with our creators on
the platform directly helping them to succeed and thrive and
all of that, and Vandersteele on there, Karen Kingston's coming
on there. We've got a bunch of phenomenal people that
are on there. But I've also got a really really
cool announcement that's actually gonna direct directly impact you guys
(36:20):
as well that I don't know if you guys actually
know this, but Matt Catt, Matt Couch and I have
been working for the last couple of months. We're going
to rebrand and relaunch Freedom First Network and basically starting
a new network or so it's gonna be Maverick Broadcasting Network.
You're probably gonna officially be launching this week, maybe next week,
depending on just a couple of couple of logistics. But
(36:42):
we're what we're gonna rebrand, relaunch, We're setting We're setting
up a substect where we'll have email communication with with
all of our audience. We're setting up a brand new
Rumble channel that we're all gonna be, you know, building
together with. With with all that, we're bringing on some
some new uh some new shows onto the network with
really large followings on X And we'll be making those
announcements in the in the coming days and weeks, So
(37:04):
make sure that you guys are subscribing. We're going to
be doing the transition, the switchover on all the branding
and all that kind of stuff, and it's gonna it's
gonna be a lot of fun. And I think that
heading into this new this new term of President Trump,
in this new term of this country, I think I
think it's time for the rebrand to relaunch, and uh,
we're gonna make a run at this thing so.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Well, rebranding and relaunching of a network, but also rebranding
and relaunching of a country that needed. Jeff Dornick of
Pickax Fame, thank you so much for joining us, and
we will see you on down the trail.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Sounds good. Thanks guys, All right, I did that.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I want to bring us something. Do you notice the
college athletes.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
And just more and more athletes are bringing up God
and Jesus Christ and the coaches and everything.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
You see that. But then I was thinking about it.
I was watching Pete Hegseth in his in his confirmation
and he invokes Jesus Christ in the first ninety seconds.
He's there in the in the Senate chamber, a non
military industrial complex guy. He doesn't come from from a
you know, some defense contractors, not a lobbyist, just an
(38:09):
ordinary guy who's served, who's invoking Jesus Christ. Yeah, there's
been a cultural awakening in this country. And I think it's,
you know, out of the darkness comes light. I think
all the things we've been seeing, and you know, Bob,
that's really been your wheelhouse. Calling it out is demonic
as it has been the things that we've seen going on.
And I think Americans at at their very heart, we
are a godly people. We are you know that that
(38:32):
is rooted in our culture, and we we got away
from that for too long. And despite how you worship
or who you worship, I think the idea that we're
not alone. I think the world can be a scary
place sometimes. And you know, your TV is not your God.
Your social media influencers are not your God. There is
a father in heaven, and you know, I think it
(38:53):
comforts people, and that lack of spiritualism has led us
down the road we've been on, which we realize that
for a culture, sure, and historically speaking, I look at
the Roman Empire. I mean, when you start, you know,
loading up on the sin, the vice, the drinking, the pornography,
the frivolous, you know, sexual promiscuity. That's when bad things happen.
(39:13):
Strong cultures are held together by strong moral values. And
we can disagree on politics, and we're going to disagree
on politics. I really hope we do because we don't
want to be a group thing type of country. We
don't want to have one party rule. We want to
hold our leaders accountable despite how much we may support
those leaders. But at the same time, we're human beings
and I think Americans have a lot more in common
(39:33):
than we do with what divides us. And like I've
always said, Bob, it's not necessarily substantial differences, it's stylistic differences.
And I think that God, country, and family, regardless of
which God you worship, and regardless of what your family
looks like, I think those are all things that are
important to us. With that thing said, guys, thank you
for tuning in. I did not put a rank of Patreon,
(39:54):
so Patreon, dot com, slash Bob and Eric. Everything you
give helps keep the show keep going and hopefully in
Death League because we love doing this. It's a lot
of fun and it's different now here we come in.
We spent the last four years as the critics and
now we're on you know. I mean, look, we're not
We're not news commentators, we're more social commentators. So we
can certainly have our bias in our opinion. Not to
(40:15):
say we're not gonna hold our leaders accountable, because I
guarantee you we're gonna hold them accountable regardless of how
much we may support them. But at the same time,
it feels good to be on the winning team.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Up.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
It really does. Two and two, two days, baby ord
eight hours for the next four years, I think it's
gonna be great. I think one thing. One closing. I
think the stock market it's gonna be closed on Monday
because of a holiday. I think Tuesday you're gonna see
a thousand point jump for more. It's I can see that.
What about them bitcoin bit the economy, the world is
(40:46):
responding to Trump, and the economy is responding Trump. The world,
the economy are getting ready for a new America. And
the strong America is a strong world, is a strong economy,
and so on and so forth. It follows. So we'll
see that. Guys. We'll see you next week with a
new president.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, I keep America, you keep America. We'll keep American gree.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
How keep America. You keep America, We'll keep America. Agree,
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