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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to the Bob and Eric Sta America Podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Name is Bob and my name is Eric Methidi. Thank
you all for tuning in. Guys, Happy Saturday. Wow wow Wow.
The winning does not stop. The winning does not stop, Bob.
It's this is the president we have always wanted. This
is the administration we have long deserved, so desperately needed.
(00:53):
I just one week, it's just compounded upon each other.
The win don't stop. And I just think back. And
I know we talked last week about the difference between
twenty seventeen and twenty twenty five Trump, and I just
I can't wrap my head around the transformation. And again,
(01:14):
some people think, you know, it's an abiding love of country,
and I get that, but I think, like I've said,
like we've said, I think this is a man on
a revenge mission.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I think this is retribution.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I think this is look at what you've spent the
last four, hell the last ten years doing to me.
And I have no one to be accountable to other
than the American people who elected me to do precisely
what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Every day it's something new. It's more regulations being slashed,
more government employees being terminated, a bloated, inefficient bureaucracy being
whittled down to a lean machine that hopefully will result
in one of two things, or two things ideally won
the return of this money to the American people, and
two lengthy decades long prison sentences for the people who
(02:01):
have ripped us off, sold our interests a broad and
become rich off the backs of the American people.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Bob, what say you? I see it all goes.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Back to when he got shot in the ear because
Elon wasn't on board until he saw what happened with
getting shot. So that that's without Elon, I mean it
would be going, I'm sure really good.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But with Eon and the those team, it's just night
and day.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I can't believe the two of them, and they're not
getting paid and Elon's sleeping on the floor.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Really look getting paid When you have as much money
as Elon Musk has, you know what's money?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
At this point, I was putting out this morning a post.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
You know, you know, when you sit around with your buddies,
like I buy it. All the money in the world,
I'd buy this, I'd buy that. Elon Musk is the
living embodiment of that. He literally does what I think
most of us would do if we had the financial
wherewithal the ability to do it. The good that he
can bring, the change that he can effectuate, is directly
related to the amount of money he has. And you
(02:58):
could hate on him all you want. I know, liberals
like to think he's some unelected bureaucrat, but mind you,
George Soros was funding riots. Elon Musk is trying to
figure out a way to make government more cost effective.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We're not the same.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Bringing the Big boss Man on board, Nick Axe and
Maverick Broadcasting Jeff Dornick, Jeff, I invited you on today
for a very specific reason because your boy is now
the Health and Human Services Secretary. Jeff very famously probably
one of the loudest, moost vocal cheerleadings for RFK, and
now your boy he's in a position to really carry
(03:35):
out that agenda that he wanted to as a.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
As a very I'd say he was a very impactful
third party candidate.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I mean at one point he had up to like
twenty percent support, which is practically unheard of. Your boy,
RFK Junior now Health and Human Services Secretary, as somebody
who supported him for president of what is your position
and what's the position of many people who like you,
wanted to see him in the White House at one point?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah, you know, it was interesting because because I was
thinking about this the other day, I think it was
actually the day that the RFK was confirmed as Secretary
of AHHS. As I was sitting there thinking, I'm like,
you know, had had so many of us not actually
supported RFK Junior when he was running for president, we
may not be in this position right now to where
you know, that was a huge landslide, you know, push
(04:21):
of you know, he brought over a lot of Democrats
that came over and voted for Trump this time around
that never would have voted for him before. And now
we wouldn't actually have RFK Junior as Secretary of HHS
had he not run as a third party and been
as successful as he was. There's also interning polling that
was actually just leaked, I believe this week from the
Democrat Party from during the primaries that showed that Kennedy
(04:42):
was actually polling far superior to Biden in the primaries,
which is why the Democrat Party tried to blackball him
and keep him out of running the primaries and all that.
So all that to say, I think, in my opinion,
the confirmation of Kennedy as a Secretary of HHS is
probably the most significant appointment out of any other you know,
(05:03):
cabinet position in possibly the history of the country, in
the sense of what he can actually accomplish that would
be a net positive for the country. And you know,
there's a lot of debate even within the Maha movement
about what's he gonna do. When's he gonna ban the vaccines,
When's he going to ban the food dies, When's he
gonna do all that? And I keep coming back to
the point, I don't think that he's just going to
go on a banning, you know, you know, rampage. What
(05:24):
he's going to do is he's actually going to provide
the science, provide the data that the FDA, that the CDC,
that that the NH already have, and then release it
for everybody to be able to make their own decisions,
and then give us back our freedom and our liberty
and our own personal choice and our own individual autonomy.
And I think that's the beauty of what RFK brings
to the table. He's not there looking to have the
(05:45):
government be the solution to the problem. He's there to
have the government facilitate us being the solution to our
own problems and take responsibility for our own health. And
I think that's going to be the significance of having
RFK as HHS, which is it's gonna be the first
time that a Secretary of h of Justice is really
going to take that position.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, it's the first time in a long time where
a Secretary of HHS has actually been about health. Before that,
it's namely been about pharmaceuticals. It's samely been about vaccination programs,
health insurance, health coverage, which in our country is far
be unbroken. I don't think either party has a solution
put in place to fix the cost of coverage. But
(06:23):
what RFK Junior is talking about is preventative medicine. He's
talking about eating real food, exercise, being healthy as a
culture because all of us being somewhat in the same
age bracket, we remember a time when you could go
out and you didn't have sixty percent of thirteen fourteen
year olds overweight. You didn't have fifty or more percent
(06:44):
of the public that was seriously obese or had hypertension, diabetes,
these serious health problems, and it's a direct result of
the food we're putting into our body and lifestyle becoming
more and more sedentary. I think the one thing I've
always noticed, having traveled all over the world, and you
go to other parts of the world where they have
access to the same technology we do, perhaps they eat
(07:04):
to some degree what we do, probably not as much,
but it's the portions. American our plate size is way
too much food. And I think this is no more
apparent than when you're at the airport. And I don't
know what it is about American culture that says, I
have a forty five minute layover in Cleveland, I'm going
to go to Cinnabon and have a sixteen hundred calory
(07:25):
piece of cake because I can. Granted, that's personal choice,
and I think conservatives buy and larger about personal choice.
And look, if you want to treat your body like
a toilet. Being my guest, but Jeff, do you think
with RFK and with make America healthy again, that kind
of becoming a mantra for a broader conservative movement. Is
(07:45):
do you think people individuals are being influenced by this
or do they see it as someone trying to tell
them how to live and if they want to eat McDonald's,
they can eat McDonald's. I see a push toward America
wanting to be healthier. I don't think anybody who's two
hundred pounds overweight looks in the goes this is fine.
I think the body positivity has been a terrible thing.
Do you see this as a significant cultural shift in
(08:07):
US becoming a healthier nation as we used to be?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I think so. But I think I think a lot
of it is because of the long form podcasts and
RFK going on the long form podcast and actually being
able to explain things, and I think that that has
been able to wake a lot of people up. So like,
for example, like you're talking about, like you know, the
portion size. You know, I remember traveling to Europe not
that long ago, and you know we would go over there,
and yes, portion sizes are different. But also the big
(08:32):
reason why that is is because of the way that
our food industry is set up, so the food industry
actually imported a lot of the scientists from the tobacco
industry when there was that whole you know switch over
in the ban on advertising and the whole deal on
the tobacco companies, and so they imported a lot of
those scientists over to the food companies, and then they
made the food more addictive. They made it to where
(08:53):
you weren't as full as quick eating the food. You know,
it's a lot of they always say empty calories. Well,
that's a scientific advance by American food companies specifically. Now,
if you go over to Europe, they don't have that
same technology because it's banned. It's not allowed. So if
you go over to Europe and you eat a bowl
of pasta over there, you would actually eat less food
(09:13):
and be more full over in Europe because it's actually
real food. And also, interestingly, here in the United States,
we're when we're talking about our wheat, our wheat is
pretty much all genetically modified. It's all been manipulated to
have fuller yields, which has resulted and according to a
lot of studies and a lot of doctors, which has
resulted in a lot of the chronic disease and as
(09:34):
well as a lot of the gluten intolerances and gluten
allergy allergies and coeliac disease here in the United States specifically,
whereas a lot of people that have gluten intolerances here
in the United States, and I have family members you know,
that have that as well. We go over to Europe,
we can have pasta and not have to get gluten
free because it's not having the same result because if
you actually look at the farm fields over in Europe,
(09:55):
the wheat looks a lot more you know, straggly and
not as full and all that because it's not medically
modified and basically bred in order to have the fuller yields,
which is causing a lot of the health ramifications. So
when you when we look at the differences in those
we're seeing the bad practices of these big corporations here
in the United States. And I think that that's that's
a lot of what you know, Kennedy, Kennedy's going to
(10:17):
be focused on. It's not about banning food or banning
vaccines or banning pharmaceuticals. It's actually holding these companies accountable. Look,
if you're going to do this in order to have
a fuller yield in order to have a better profit
there there may or may not be health ramifications that
come of that. So if you're going to do that,
you also have to be responsible for the health ramifications
that you are causing because you're trying to protect your
(10:39):
bottom line and get a wider profit margin. So I
think that that to a certain degree is also going
to be part of RF case focus as well as
Secretary of HHS is making sure that they're that these
companies that are making the decisions they're going to have
to take into consideration the health ramifications that are going
to come from their decisions where they're just focusing on
their profits and then they cover up the science and
(11:00):
the data that show no, this is actually causing long
term harm in the people because of your business decisions,
you know.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Interestingly enough, I was just in Iceland over Thanksgiving, and
it's a northern European country, and so there's bakeries and
just bread abound every corner, bakeries eating bread, eating carbs.
Not once did I feel sick, bloated, like stuffed to
the gills like you to. You go to an American restaurant,
you eat pasta, you eat bread, you eat all that stuff,
(11:29):
you come out of there feeling like you're gonna explode.
You go get it's the worst feeling in the world.
You go lay in bed at night, you're trying to
go to bed, you've clearly overeaten. You just feel like
absolute garbage. I could go there and I could eat.
I'm getting fuller, quicker, But thirty minutes later, an hour later,
I feel fine, I feel lean, I feel no bloat whatsoever.
(11:49):
And you're absolutely right. It's it's real food. It's farm
grown wheat, it's farm raised chicken, farm raised cattle, and
we have such a food industrial complex in this country.
I'm wondering if there's going to be a shift back
to family farming or am I you one hundred years
(12:09):
too late for that. I just wonder, because you know,
when they put the chickens, when you have, like you know,
any of these companies, they have the chickens in the pens,
They're feeding them steroids, they're feeding them all these all
these things that are making them three four, five times
the size of a normal farm raised chicken, shooting them
full of antibiotics so that they can sell more get
more yield per chicken.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That just seems that the way can just corporate America
is going now.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I mean, obviously, get more for your dollar, try to
sell as much as you can.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We see it on airlines.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I mean, try to cram as many people into this
tiny little tube in the sky, over sell them with
Do you know a product in the world you can
over sell and not deliver upon an airline industry, you
can do that.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So it just seems like American corporate culture. What is
the solution to that?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I mean, are these big, big food companies, these big
agricultural companies, they come backs, Okay, we're not going to
give our chicken steroids. We're gonna you're not gonna put
these pesticides or these these genetically modified organisms into our food.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's going to create a yield.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
We're just gonna grow wheat, let it grow as nature intends,
and then put it out on the market. I just
don't know how that actually becomes a reality.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Sure, so so so part of it I think is
gonna be is going to be through department Department of Agriculture.
To a certain degree. I know that RFK has been
wanting to basically because a lot a lot of the problems.
A lot of the subsidies go to cheap farming, cheap products,
promoting so tools, promoting sugar, promoting all these things that
are toxic and harmful to our bodies. And so he's like,
let's take away those subsidies of you know, let's stop,
(13:39):
let's stop subsidizing canola oil, and let let's start subsidizing
organic farming. Let's let's help conventional farms transition to organic farms. Now,
I remember it was several years ago, before you know,
Kennedy even got into the race and all that. My
wife and I went on a farm tour back in Georgia,
a place I highly recommend if anybody wants to buy actual,
you know, legitimate organic you know, beef and food and
(14:00):
meat and all that kind of stuff, go to white
white oat pastures. They're out there, you can order online. Phenomenal,
you know, coming. I remember going on a farm tour there.
Everything there, one of the only organic farms that do
everything from birth to slaughter all on property, so they
handle everything and and it's phenomenal quality. But but I
remember going through, you know, uh that that tour and
they're they're talking about the difference between conventional farming and
(14:21):
organic farminging farming. Now the whole now, they don't use
any antibiotics. They don't inject their their cows or their
pigs or the chickens with with anything. They're they're far there,
their pasture rays are out and they're out in the
fields or eating and all that. He's like, we don't
need antibiotics because we have a we have a significantly
smaller herd than the big conventional farms. The conventional farms
they need the antibiotics, they need all those things because
(14:42):
they've got tens of thousands of cattle running around all together.
So if one of them gets sick with something, they're
all gonna get it, and then you're gonna have tens
of thousands of cows that all get sick. That's one
of the things that we're seeing that that's so easy
about this whole supposed like bird flu, you know, quote
unquote pandemic, is that they've got millions and millions of
chickens that are inside crammed together in these huge barns.
(15:03):
They never see sunlight, they're never out. So if one
of the if one single chicken gets sick, the entire
flock of chickens are gonna get sick, so of course
they're gonna be injecting them with things because they're not
letting them out in the fields and spread out and
all that. So I think if we can figure out
how to decentralize the farming system instead of these huge,
big conventional farms, start start actually funding family farms again,
(15:27):
and to where we start buying and maybe we have
co ops and things like that, to where they band
together to have better pricing and all that kind of stuff.
But if we can start decentralizing our farming system, it's
actually going to be better for our health, it's going
to be better for national security. It's going to allow
our food to actually be higher quality, the less need
for antibiotics and and that sort of thing. Because think
about it, if you have if you have a farm,
(15:48):
instead of a million chickens on one farm, you spread
that out among ten farms. So let's just even say
it's one hundred thousand chickens on each and each individual farm.
Now let's say one farm you have a bird flu
pan emmick or they all get sick or whatever it is.
That's only one hundred thousand chickens ninety percent of the
chickens that in that same area are not getting sick,
so you don't have to deal with that. So that's
actually going to be better for our food production quality
(16:11):
and less need for antibiotics and things like that. So
I think that's one of the things that that Kennedy's
going to be looking at, is how do we get
away from the big conventional farming, because that is a
big part of why we are being indundated with toxins
and chemicals and pesticides is because it's all just in
a handful of super large corporations and super large farms.
If we can decentralize, we don't need all that crap.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well, here's here's the thing, Jeff, and I'm glad you
mentioned it. So farmers markets. Farmers markets, we have a
number of them out where we live. We've pretty much
gotten to the point where we don't buy slice bread anymore.
My wife makes it all from scratch, a lot of meat, milk, vegetables,
produce stuff like that we go to the farmer's market for,
which is all well and good. That's one area I
(16:54):
think where liberals and conservatives can actually come together. And
because you always have your you know, hip white liberal
women who pull up in their ninety thousand dollars SUVs
to buy organic milk. And then you have you know,
some Joe Mago with his truck pull up because he
doesn't want to eat what you know, big aggre is
putting in his body. So culturally we have a lot
of common ground there. The issue is cost.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Farmers markets are cost prohibitive for poor people. If you
go to a farmer's market and you want to buy
raw milk, you want to buy some grass fed ribbi steaks,
you want to buy some you know, farm raised fish
and things like that, you're easily walking out of there
with a bag of groceries. It's going to cost you
well over one hundred dollars if not more, organic, farm raised. Obviously,
(17:36):
there's a cost that comes with it. The reason that
you can buy a bag of frozen chicken for a
six ninety nine at the grocery store is exactly why
they can stick ten thousand chickens in one pen, feed
them the same thing, shoot them full of steroids, put
it on the market for a family to raise the
chickens and take the time the farm fresh eggs which
taste better. It's a different color, it's a different look
(17:57):
you you make if you get a lot of eggs.
I eat a lot of eggs, those farm fresh eggs.
It is a bright orange color. There's more electin there's
more coaline, there's more amino acids in there that are
so good for you as opposed to this garbage you're
getting from the grocery store. How do we make it
more affordable so that it's not just people who with means,
because you understand, obesity affects the poor far more than
(18:18):
it does everyone else, because that's a cheap option. If
you're a working family and you got to go to McDonald's,
you got to go to Burger King to get dinner.
You know, wealthier people can go afford the thirty dollars salad.
If you've got thirty forty five dollars to feed a
family of five, where else can you go but fast food?
So how do you and I feel like what we're
talking about are very liberal talking points. How do you
(18:40):
have some equity here so you can make it more
accessible to people that don't have the money to go
to a typical farmer's market.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, well, so the reality of it is that you know,
there's two different things that are happening simultaneously when it
comes to the cost of food. So on one hand,
you're dealing with a lot a lot of the organic
you know, produce and food and and products. They're typically
more small business, right, and so a lot of times
they can't they can't drop the price down because because
(19:09):
they can't go on the volume. And I personally know
a bunch of owners of a bunch of a bunch
of startup like food brands and food products and all that,
and it's so difficult because they have so many hurdles.
And then on top of that, it costs them tens
of thousands of dollars per skew so per product in
order to get a USDA organic certification. So let's say
let's say you have an organic cracker company, right, and
(19:30):
they have five different kinds of crackers, it's all organic,
it's all the right kind of ingredients. That small startup brand.
In order to be considered a USDA or certified organic company,
they would have and let's just say it's ten thousand
dollars per skew. In order to be certified, they would
have to drop fifty thousand dollars to get five five
lines of crackers to be certified organic. And that goes
(19:52):
across the board for anything anything that's considered USD organic.
You see that stamp of the stamp of approval, that
seal that's on their package, that's tens of thousands of
dollars that that brand had to pay for that individual product.
Then they come out with another product, they got to
drop another you know, five figures in order to do that.
So that's a major problem. So I so I know
that when Kennedy was out campaigning for president, one of
the things that he was talking about was we need
(20:12):
to lower the lower the cost of getting that stamp
that that stamp of USDA certified. That way it opens
it up, it drops, it'll drop the cost down, drop
the price down additionally, So you've got you've got that
side of things. Volume is a huge problem. The cost
of being organic is a huge problem. The other side
that we're dealing with is the subsidy thing. So when
when we're dealing with that, the USDA subsidizes everything, which
(20:35):
which artificially makes a lot of the crap food very
very cheap. And that's why a lot of companies go
with seed oils and canola oil and all these different
kinds of oils and sugar. And you know, corn is
a huge subsidy as well. And so what our government
is doing is they're incentivizing these these food companies to
use these crap ingredients genetically modified corn using corn oil.
(20:58):
A lot of fast food restaurant use cottonseed oil to fry,
to fry their their French fries and fried food and
all that. And so what they're doing is they're subsidizing
all of these ingredients, which then makes it practically free
for these big for these big corporations to actually put
that into their foods, which is significantly dropping the price down.
That's why if you go to Walmart, you could buy
(21:19):
you know, you know, I think apasta for you know,
seventy five cents or ninety nine cents or whatever it is.
But if you want real food, it's gonna be two dollars,
three dollars, four dollars, so three four times as much money.
It's because it's because the crap food is being subsidized
by our government. So if you can take those subsidies
and say, look, we're gonna stop subsidizing corn and sugar
(21:39):
and canola oil and all these crap products. And we're
going to turn around and take that money that we
were subsidizing that was causing ramifications to our health, and
we're going to subsidize now organic farms, and we're gonna
subsidize organic produce and organic meat and you know, getting
you know, helping, helping to decentralize our farming system. Then
all of a sudden, you're going to see convey prices
(22:00):
go up and organic prices go down because now we're
subsidizing things that are going to help our health. So
that's one of the things that Kennedy was talking about
when he was running for president, and I'm almost positive
he's going to do that now with Secretary of HHS
Nice Well, Bob, I want.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
To pivot to you for a second. Do you think
with the awareness with seed oils and just how educated
consumers are and what they put in their bodies now,
do you think there's going to be a massive backlash
against restaurant chains and food companies that they need to
get in line with what Americans want for their health.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You know, boycott's things like that, because money talks.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
That's the only thing that makes these companies change their policies.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know about boycoutting the companies, but it's funny.
After the show, I'm driving to a farm and picking
up my grass fed beef and grass fed chicken eggs.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So it's good for you that we're talking about this.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I people follow the money. So if the organic prices
can come down, I don't see why anybody would go
against it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I mean, we used to use tallow and for our oil.
But he's hitting all the right points. Man, Jeff, you're
well versed in this area well business.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, Well I've been, you know, in this whole world
for for years, way before anybody was talking to all
this kind of stuff. And so like for us, it's
like we we go out to eat and you know,
you you really have to realize and understands. Like if
you if you go out to a restaurant and you're like,
I'm gonna be healthy, I'm I'm gonna get I'm gonna
get olive oil. The vast majority of people don't realize
that in almost every single restaurant you're olive oil is
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cut with canola oil. So if you if you go
to your local Italian restaurant, and you're like, look, i'm
gonna have I'm gonna have bread, I'm gonna be healthy. Okay,
I'm gonna get olive oil with with my bread and
dip it in there and all that kind of stuff.
That olive oil is typically about half canola oil in there.
So so what so what we do if we go
to a restaurant anything with it, We get cooked cooked
in butter or no oil at all because it's it's
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hidden in like everything. Salads almost never get a salad
out because it's always gonna be canol oil. They're gonna
say it's olive oil. But I guess, garantee, you haven't
bring out the bottle. It's cut fifty percent with canol oil.
So you go down that route. Additionally, there's also there's
a there's a great app called seed seed Oil Scout.
I highly recommend everybody downloaded. So what they do is
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they actually go and look at all the restaurants across
the entire country and and they figure out which ones
are going to be the easiest free to eat if
you want to avoid seed oils. So they'll tell you
which restaurants are completely seed oil free, which which restaurants
you can order food that doesn't have seed oils in it.
And so I recommend everybody to download that apps. It's
called seed Oil Scout, and it's a it's a great
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resource for people to figure out how do how do
I go through life? Because that's one of the things
that I get, you know, back to me all the time,
is well, I can't live because seed oils are everywhere. Well,
there's a great resource you can actually go figure out
how to do it. If you're if you're getting a
steak or you're getting salmon, or you know, eating out,
ask for it to be cooked in butter, don't get
the French fries, get steamed vegetables. You know, you can
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figure out how how to live and how to thrive
in these scenarios. And it's not even just going to
nice restaurants. You can go to, you know, an everyday restaurant.
I remember going into I spoke at Patriot Church in Tennessee.
Healthiest place in town was Cracker Barrel. Like, healthiest restaurant
in town was Crackerbell. So I go there and I
and I go in the morning and I'm like, okay,
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So I go in there, I order my eggs, and
I'm like, cook it in butter. Okay, great, cook and butter.
You know, got bacon, cook it and butter as well.
Don't don't cook it in oil because a lot of
times they just fry in oil and dump oil all
over all over the place. And I'm like, okay, that
that that's my that's my breakfast. Is I got like
four eggs, I got some bacon, No, no seed oil,
none of none of the extra additives and all that
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kind of stuff, and it's fresh. Oh and also, don't
order scrambled eggs when you're out, order actual fried eggs.
And the big reason is because they always mix in
fillers and dairy and oils in there in order to
make it go further. And so so that these are
all things that when you're in this world as long
as I've been in this world, you're dealing with all
this health stuff and seed oils and all of that,
(25:59):
you realize you have to understand the game and understand
how these companies work because they're looking at their bottom lines.
They're looking at their profit margins, which means we need
to stretch everything out as far as we can, which
is happening at Health ramification on yourself. So get educated
and then support companies and support brands that are doing
things right because the more you support them now if
you can afford it, the easier it will be for
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them to lower the price because now they're going on volume.
So that's another thing that we can do as well.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
You got to remember that you can never, under any circumstances,
put your trust in corporate America. This is the same
corporate America that sells you cigarettes, that sells you alcohol.
They will sell they sell you gambling, they sell you pornography,
They will sell you anything that is bad for you
as long as you become addicted to it and you
will pay for it. So yes, just like cigarettes and
alcohol and pornography, food is an addiction. All these really
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good tasting foods that make you feel good, that satisfy
that part of the brain for thirty minutes before you
feel like an absolute failure, that's an addiction. And we
as Americans, for whatever reasons, as much a freedom loving
people as we are, the one place where it comes
back to bite us is the freedom to destroy our
bodies and do whatever we want. We don't have that
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level of cultural discipline. You might see in parts of Europe.
In Japan, for crying out loud, they don't have obesity
in Japan, un lists you're as suma wrestler because it's
just part of the culture. Our culture, despite all the
wonderful things about it, we are not a terribly disciplined culture.
And for whatever reason, and the Left has spent the
last thirty years pushing this body positivity, no judgment, things
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like that. We're really I think for a lot of
us that grew up in the eighties and nineties, what
keeps people on the straight and narrow is the shame.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And is the judgment.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, I don't want to get big in fat, because
then people are going to think less of me. I
don't want to make this decision because people are going
to think less of me. I think caring what people
think and having judgment, being able to point and shame
and say, hey, that's not a good look. Take anybody
who's had a lifestyle transformation, whether they quit drinking, using drugs,
lost weight, did something wonderful. I guarantee it wasn't because
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they just woke up one day and started it on
their own. Something had to have happened, something had to
have happened like a villain origin story in Marvel that
put you on the path to become who you became.
So shame, judgment, competitiveness, wanting to be better, those are things.
Those are inherently American values and we need to get
back to that. But like we've talked about on all
of our programs across the board for the end of
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time is we have to have a cultural backlash in
this country before we have a political and I think
we've had that. I think we've had that. Now, changes
don't happen overnight. It's not going to be you know,
if we're gonna wake up tomorrow and start making good decisions.
But I think the fact that we're aware of it
and we're talking about it when mind you, in twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty, we were not talking about it at all.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
This was not even on the menu at the time.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
And RFK brought that to the table, and now he's
got one of the most important seats at the table. Jeff,
thank you, thank you for coming on. I know it's short,
and but this is your wheelhouse, man, this is what
you know. Tell everybody what's going on with Pickax, Maverick Broadcasting.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
What have you been up to?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yeah, definitely, I've been up to a lot besides chasing
a two year old around the house like a crazy
man that doesn't have that never runs out of energy,
you know. So so Matt Couch and I obviously rebranding,
relaunching Freedom First Network. Now we're now Maverick Broadcasting Network
as well. You know, obviously you know you guys you
know on here. Love having you guys every single Saturday.
Adding a bunch of new shows we're bringing on. You know,
we're bringing on Tina Forte, She's gonna have a show
(29:30):
on the network. Teddy Gangels is coming on, Karen Kingston's
coming on. We just brought on Christy Lee, you know,
we're carrying her audio show and Vandersteel. You know, Maverick
Broadcasting is going to grow. We're gonna grow phenomenally. I
think twenty twenty five is really going to be our year.
Matt and Matt and I are going to start a
show together as well. That'll be weekly, So stay tuned
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(30:32):
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(30:54):
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We're gonna be coming out with a with an iPhone
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as well. That's really going to separate us from all
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we're doing with Pickax all the other platforms.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
And I love Elon, he's great. He did a lot
for our country with all this, but I just I
disagree with his worldview on certain things. All these big
tech companies, what they're doing is they're using humanity to
build up their technology, artificial intelligence, transhumanism. You know, you
just go down, go down the gamut. They're using our
data in our individual you know thoughts and ideas in
(31:45):
order to build up their technology. We're doing the opposite
approach with Pickax. We're using technology to build up your voice.
So everything that we're doing with Pickax is I'm figuring
out what what what's available technologically, and then how can
we do how can we help the individual to amplify
their voice, because that's the whole point of the First
Amendment was our individual right to freedom of speech, our
individual right to freedom of the press, which back in
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the day was you go down to your local printing press,
you write out your grievances against the government, have them
print out some flyers, you go down to your town square,
and you distribute it freely without restriction from the government
or restriction from anybody. That's your freedom of the press.
And that's what people forget. It's not Fox News or
CNN's right to say whatever they want. It's your individual
right to write out your opinions. So we're figuring out
(32:28):
how do we use technology to build up humanity, which
means much better algorithms are Our algorithms are content neutral,
they have no opinions. And then as well, we're going
to give content creators more access to their audience, you
more access to to your favorite you know, creators, and
then help content creators to be able to monetize. So
it's a big project. It's a lot of work, but
(32:49):
we're finally in growth phase right now, which is awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So it's a good place to be. Jeff Dornick.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Ladies and gentlemen, please give him a follow U supcord
him and check out Pickax.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Take care of Jeff. Thanks for coming. Thank yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
So as we wrap up here, Bob, I got to
tell you one of the things that's been floating around
and I just saw this morning that run DeSantis is
proposing it is abolishing property tax. Now, obviously that has
to be done on the local level. Government on the
federal level has no impact, can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
But you think about it.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You know, I've heard there's rumblings about abolishing income tax.
They talk about that every now and again. Whether that's
going to come to fruition or not, we'll see. But
property tax, you really like, when you think about property.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Taxes, you never really own your land. You are just
borrowing it from the government.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
So for someone who's working, you're in your your life
working where I live, property taxes are fifteen thousand dollars
a year. So that's a lot of money, and we
got to pay it. But I think, you know what
happens if I stay in my home. You know, I'm
forty three years old. Let's say thirty years from now,
I'm retired and I'm on a fixed income. I'm on
my retirement and I got to come up with that
fifteen grand a year when I'm hired. Way don't have
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an income. But you have a lot of people that
have to sell their homes and they go and assisted
living facilities. They go rent because then you don't have
to pay property tax. And when you rent, I've been
of the opinion I think you're throwing.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Your money away. You don't have an investment in anything
that's yours.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
So do you think that's a feasible thing that governors
and you know, state governments, local governments could actually do
away with property taxes. And if they could, where's that
money going to come from? Because the play Devil's Advocate,
and I'm you know, I hate taxation of all forms,
but I understand it's a necessary evil.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
How are you going to pay for the roads to
schools things like that?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Well, without those going into the local governments, there's no way,
no way. But those should go to the states after
they're done hacking up the federal government. Another thing, property tax.
I think at least when you retire, that's it, because
like you said, fifteen thousand dollars a year, you got
to go get a job if you don't have the
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retirement saying it is, and I've seen videos of people saying.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
That, Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And you know, if you're living on Social Security and
you're living on you know, your investments or if you
have them, let me say, is living on your investments?
I mean, like everybody's got a portfolio. Most Americans have
little to no net worth, and so you're able to
retire one day. Social Security constitutes a massive percentage of
your income, if not the whole thing. Fifteen thousand dollars
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might be three months of social securities, it might be
three months of your living expenses that you have to
pay the government for the privilege to sit on a
piece of property you've owned for forty years, that you
paid off twenty years ago. The bank has no interest
in it, but now the city does. That's something that
needs to be done away with. I think that's a
great idea, Bob. I'm going to put out a post
after this. I'm going to attribute it to you. Those
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should go to the states after they've run through the
federal government. I think that's a phenomenal idea. Just waste
on all levels and Americans. You know, when you go
to the store, you can buy a cheeseburger, you can
buy around a groceries. You buy a car, you get
a receipt. They show you how your money is spent.
Why don't we get a receipt when we pay our taxes. Hey,
you know, mister Dunlap, you paid seventy five thousand dollars
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in taxes this year.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
This is where your money went. Yeah, you don't tell that.
They're talking about doing that. I know they're gonna pull
this off.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
They're gonna take all expenses generally and put it on blockchain.
So every time anybody writes a check for anything, it
has to be quantified and said, Okay, what is this for?
Where is it going to? It's it's going to go
that way. Another thing, too, is California. Imagine sending doge
over there. I mean, how much did we give them
for that high speed railroad and Newscomb just bought.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
A house for nine million bucks and it's got a
blue roof. Go figure.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Well, I'll tell you I think I think that's a
great idea to have Doge go to the States and
look at how your money is misappropriated. But I'll tell
you without anything coming of this like it's one thing.
And we on the writer are very big on victories,
but sometimes I fear our victories are merely symbolic. You
take lap, you brag on social media, you move along.
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If we get to the bottom of this massive fraudulent
scheme where people are coming into government, becoming multimillionaires, taking
your money, investing in these pet projects which cost pennies,
and making millions saying, you know, I need to build
a well in Afghanistan. The well's gonna cost you know,
fifteen thousand dollars to build, but the line items is
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ten million dollars. Well, someone's pocketing a lot of that money.
If we can't get accountability for those actions, then this
has all been for naught. Do you see even though
we're exposing now, do you see the next step being accountability?
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yes, for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I admire your confidence. I hope to see that, Bob,
I just put your post out. Those should go to
the states after they run through the federal government. That's
a beautiful statement and I will tattoo that on my forehead. Guys.
With that being said, I want to thank all of
you for tuning in, thank you for being here with us,
and thank you to Jeff Dornick for joining us.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Guys. Jeff is a man.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
He's got a lot of knowledge when it comes to food.
That's that's sort of his family business. So you'll hit
him up. Make sure you're following him on social media,
make sure you're on Pickaxe, make sure you're everywhere where
your favorite content creators are. Because, like I said, and
I've told you guys, I've set it to the world
when news breaks, when things happen in the world, when
I get that message or that call, hey turn on
the TV, I don't turn on the TV. I look
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to the people who I trust. I would much rather
come to Jack Posopik before I go to Sean Hannity
or anyone like that.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
So, guys, hopefully you know we are the media now,
but we also wield a lot of power in.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
This new age, in this new administration, and this is
really sort of what we've wanted to have happen, come
to fruition, and we owe that to Trump. Honestly, that's
definitely a reflection of everything he's been through. This is
a man who is back from the dead and now
to seek revenge and I'm all here for it. And
Elon Musk say what you will about him, don't always
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agree with him, but man, he is a good citizen
and I'm damn glad he's on our side and not
funding riots on the other side.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, I'm off to the farm.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Off to the farm, go get your eggs, eat well,
be well, Love you guys, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
We'll see y'all soon. Take care.
Keep America. You keep America.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We'll keep amer Co.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Gree keep ammeric Can you keep America?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Keep a man could be ah keep americn you jeep America?
Well jeep a meerver Cocree.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to the Bob and Eric Sta America Podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Name is Bob and my name is Eric Methidi. Thank
you all for tuning in. Guys, Happy Saturday. Wow wow Wow.
The winning does not stop. The winning does not stop, Bob.
It's this is the president we have always wanted. This
is the administration we have long deserved, so desperately needed.
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I just one week, it's just compounded upon each other.
The win don't stop. And I just think back. And
I know we talked last week about the difference between
twenty seventeen and twenty twenty five Trump, and I just
I can't wrap my head around the transformation. And again,
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some people think, you know, it's an abiding love of country,
and I get that, but I think, like I've said,
like we've said, I think this is a man on
a revenge mission.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I think this is retribution.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I think this is look at what you've spent the
last four, hell the last ten years doing to me.
And I have no one to be accountable to other
than the American people who elected me to do precisely
what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Every day it's something new. It's more regulations being slashed,
more government employees being terminated, a bloated, inefficient bureaucracy being
whittled down to a lean machine that hopefully will result
in one of two things, or two things ideally won
the return of this money to the American people, and
two lengthy decades long prison sentences for the people who
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have ripped us off, sold our interests a broad and
become rich off the backs of the American people.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Bob, what say you? I see it all goes.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Back to when he got shot in the ear because
Elon wasn't on board until he saw what happened with
getting shot. So that that's without Elon, I mean it
would be going, I'm sure really good.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But with Eon and the those team, it's just night
and day.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I can't believe the two of them, and they're not
getting paid and Elon's sleeping on the floor.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Really look getting paid When you have as much money
as Elon Musk has, you know what's money?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
At this point, I was putting out this morning a post.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
You know, you know, when you sit around with your buddies,
like I buy it. All the money in the world,
I'd buy this, I'd buy that. Elon Musk is the
living embodiment of that. He literally does what I think
most of us would do if we had the financial
wherewithal the ability to do it. The good that he
can bring, the change that he can effectuate, is directly
related to the amount of money he has. And you
(02:58):
could hate on him all you want. I know, liberals
like to think he's some unelected bureaucrat, but mind you,
George Soros was funding riots. Elon Musk is trying to
figure out a way to make government more cost effective.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We're not the same.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Bringing the Big boss Man on board, Nick Axe and
Maverick Broadcasting Jeff Dornick, Jeff, I invited you on today
for a very specific reason because your boy is now
the Health and Human Services Secretary. Jeff very famously probably
one of the loudest, moost vocal cheerleadings for RFK, and
now your boy he's in a position to really carry
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out that agenda that he wanted to as a.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
As a very I'd say he was a very impactful
third party candidate.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I mean at one point he had up to like
twenty percent support, which is practically unheard of. Your boy,
RFK Junior now Health and Human Services Secretary, as somebody
who supported him for president of what is your position
and what's the position of many people who like you,
wanted to see him in the White House at one point?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah, you know, it was interesting because because I was
thinking about this the other day, I think it was
actually the day that the RFK was confirmed as Secretary
of AHHS. As I was sitting there thinking, I'm like,
you know, had had so many of us not actually
supported RFK Junior when he was running for president, we
may not be in this position right now to where
you know, that was a huge landslide, you know, push
(04:21):
of you know, he brought over a lot of Democrats
that came over and voted for Trump this time around
that never would have voted for him before. And now
we wouldn't actually have RFK Junior as Secretary of HHS
had he not run as a third party and been
as successful as he was. There's also interning polling that
was actually just leaked, I believe this week from the
Democrat Party from during the primaries that showed that Kennedy
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was actually polling far superior to Biden in the primaries,
which is why the Democrat Party tried to blackball him
and keep him out of running the primaries and all that.
So all that to say, I think, in my opinion,
the confirmation of Kennedy as a Secretary of HHS is
probably the most significant appointment out of any other you know,
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cabinet position in possibly the history of the country, in
the sense of what he can actually accomplish that would
be a net positive for the country. And you know,
there's a lot of debate even within the Maha movement
about what's he gonna do. When's he gonna ban the vaccines,
When's he going to ban the food dies, When's he
gonna do all that? And I keep coming back to
the point, I don't think that he's just going to
go on a banning, you know, you know, rampage. What
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he's going to do is he's actually going to provide
the science, provide the data that the FDA, that the CDC,
that that the NH already have, and then release it
for everybody to be able to make their own decisions,
and then give us back our freedom and our liberty
and our own personal choice and our own individual autonomy.
And I think that's the beauty of what RFK brings
to the table. He's not there looking to have the
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government be the solution to the problem. He's there to
have the government facilitate us being the solution to our
own problems and take responsibility for our own health. And
I think that's going to be the significance of having
RFK as HHS, which is it's gonna be the first
time that a Secretary of h of Justice is really
going to take that position.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, it's the first time in a long time where
a Secretary of HHS has actually been about health. Before that,
it's namely been about pharmaceuticals. It's samely been about vaccination programs,
health insurance, health coverage, which in our country is far
be unbroken. I don't think either party has a solution
put in place to fix the cost of coverage. But
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what RFK Junior is talking about is preventative medicine. He's
talking about eating real food, exercise, being healthy as a
culture because all of us being somewhat in the same
age bracket, we remember a time when you could go
out and you didn't have sixty percent of thirteen fourteen
year olds overweight. You didn't have fifty or more percent
(06:44):
of the public that was seriously obese or had hypertension, diabetes,
these serious health problems, and it's a direct result of
the food we're putting into our body and lifestyle becoming
more and more sedentary. I think the one thing I've
always noticed, having traveled all over the world, and you
go to other parts of the world where they have
access to the same technology we do, perhaps they eat
(07:04):
to some degree what we do, probably not as much,
but it's the portions. American our plate size is way
too much food. And I think this is no more
apparent than when you're at the airport. And I don't
know what it is about American culture that says, I
have a forty five minute layover in Cleveland, I'm going
to go to Cinnabon and have a sixteen hundred calory
(07:25):
piece of cake because I can. Granted, that's personal choice,
and I think conservatives buy and larger about personal choice.
And look, if you want to treat your body like
a toilet. Being my guest, but Jeff, do you think
with RFK and with make America healthy again, that kind
of becoming a mantra for a broader conservative movement. Is
(07:45):
do you think people individuals are being influenced by this
or do they see it as someone trying to tell
them how to live and if they want to eat McDonald's,
they can eat McDonald's. I see a push toward America
wanting to be healthier. I don't think anybody who's two
hundred pounds overweight looks in the goes this is fine.
I think the body positivity has been a terrible thing.
Do you see this as a significant cultural shift in
(08:07):
US becoming a healthier nation as we used to be?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I think so. But I think I think a lot
of it is because of the long form podcasts and
RFK going on the long form podcast and actually being
able to explain things, and I think that that has
been able to wake a lot of people up. So like,
for example, like you're talking about, like you know, the
portion size. You know, I remember traveling to Europe not
that long ago, and you know we would go over there,
and yes, portion sizes are different. But also the big
(08:32):
reason why that is is because of the way that
our food industry is set up, so the food industry
actually imported a lot of the scientists from the tobacco
industry when there was that whole you know switch over
in the ban on advertising and the whole deal on
the tobacco companies, and so they imported a lot of
those scientists over to the food companies, and then they
made the food more addictive. They made it to where
(08:53):
you weren't as full as quick eating the food. You know,
it's a lot of they always say empty calories. Well,
that's a scientific advance by American food companies specifically. Now,
if you go over to Europe, they don't have that
same technology because it's banned. It's not allowed. So if
you go over to Europe and you eat a bowl
of pasta over there, you would actually eat less food
(09:13):
and be more full over in Europe because it's actually
real food. And also, interestingly, here in the United States,
we're when we're talking about our wheat, our wheat is
pretty much all genetically modified. It's all been manipulated to
have fuller yields, which has resulted and according to a
lot of studies and a lot of doctors, which has
resulted in a lot of the chronic disease and as
(09:34):
well as a lot of the gluten intolerances and gluten
allergy allergies and coeliac disease here in the United States specifically,
whereas a lot of people that have gluten intolerances here
in the United States, and I have family members you know,
that have that as well. We go over to Europe,
we can have pasta and not have to get gluten
free because it's not having the same result because if
you actually look at the farm fields over in Europe,
(09:55):
the wheat looks a lot more you know, straggly and
not as full and all that because it's not medically
modified and basically bred in order to have the fuller yields,
which is causing a lot of the health ramifications. So
when you when we look at the differences in those
we're seeing the bad practices of these big corporations here
in the United States. And I think that that's that's
a lot of what you know, Kennedy, Kennedy's going to
(10:17):
be focused on. It's not about banning food or banning
vaccines or banning pharmaceuticals. It's actually holding these companies accountable. Look,
if you're going to do this in order to have
a fuller yield in order to have a better profit
there there may or may not be health ramifications that
come of that. So if you're going to do that,
you also have to be responsible for the health ramifications
that you are causing because you're trying to protect your
(10:39):
bottom line and get a wider profit margin. So I
think that that to a certain degree is also going
to be part of RF case focus as well as
Secretary of HHS is making sure that they're that these
companies that are making the decisions they're going to have
to take into consideration the health ramifications that are going
to come from their decisions where they're just focusing on
their profits and then they cover up the science and
(11:00):
the data that show no, this is actually causing long
term harm in the people because of your business decisions,
you know.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Interestingly enough, I was just in Iceland over Thanksgiving, and
it's a northern European country, and so there's bakeries and
just bread abound every corner, bakeries eating bread, eating carbs.
Not once did I feel sick, bloated, like stuffed to
the gills like you to. You go to an American restaurant,
you eat pasta, you eat bread, you eat all that stuff,
(11:29):
you come out of there feeling like you're gonna explode.
You go get it's the worst feeling in the world.
You go lay in bed at night, you're trying to
go to bed, you've clearly overeaten. You just feel like
absolute garbage. I could go there and I could eat.
I'm getting fuller, quicker, But thirty minutes later, an hour later,
I feel fine, I feel lean, I feel no bloat whatsoever.
(11:49):
And you're absolutely right. It's it's real food. It's farm
grown wheat, it's farm raised chicken, farm raised cattle, and
we have such a food industrial complex in this country.
I'm wondering if there's going to be a shift back
to family farming or am I you one hundred years
(12:09):
too late for that. I just wonder, because you know,
when they put the chickens, when you have, like you know,
any of these companies, they have the chickens in the pens,
They're feeding them steroids, they're feeding them all these all
these things that are making them three four, five times
the size of a normal farm raised chicken, shooting them
full of antibiotics so that they can sell more get
more yield per chicken.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That just seems that the way can just corporate America
is going now.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I mean, obviously, get more for your dollar, try to
sell as much as you can.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We see it on airlines.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I mean, try to cram as many people into this
tiny little tube in the sky, over sell them with
Do you know a product in the world you can
over sell and not deliver upon an airline industry, you
can do that.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So it just seems like American corporate culture. What is
the solution to that?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I mean, are these big, big food companies, these big
agricultural companies, they come backs, Okay, we're not going to
give our chicken steroids. We're gonna you're not gonna put
these pesticides or these these genetically modified organisms into our food.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It's going to create a yield.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
We're just gonna grow wheat, let it grow as nature intends,
and then put it out on the market. I just
don't know how that actually becomes a reality.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Sure, so so so part of it I think is
gonna be is going to be through department Department of Agriculture.
To a certain degree. I know that RFK has been
wanting to basically because a lot a lot of the problems.
A lot of the subsidies go to cheap farming, cheap products,
promoting so tools, promoting sugar, promoting all these things that
are toxic and harmful to our bodies. And so he's like,
let's take away those subsidies of you know, let's stop,
(13:39):
let's stop subsidizing canola oil, and let let's start subsidizing
organic farming. Let's let's help conventional farms transition to organic farms. Now,
I remember it was several years ago, before you know,
Kennedy even got into the race and all that. My
wife and I went on a farm tour back in Georgia,
a place I highly recommend if anybody wants to buy actual,
you know, legitimate organic you know, beef and food and
(14:00):
meat and all that kind of stuff, go to white
white oat pastures. They're out there, you can order online. Phenomenal,
you know, coming. I remember going on a farm tour there.
Everything there, one of the only organic farms that do
everything from birth to slaughter all on property, so they
handle everything and and it's phenomenal quality. But but I
remember going through, you know, uh that that tour and
they're they're talking about the difference between conventional farming and
(14:21):
organic farminging farming. Now the whole now, they don't use
any antibiotics. They don't inject their their cows or their
pigs or the chickens with with anything. They're they're far there,
their pasture rays are out and they're out in the
fields or eating and all that. He's like, we don't
need antibiotics because we have a we have a significantly
smaller herd than the big conventional farms. The conventional farms
they need the antibiotics, they need all those things because
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they've got tens of thousands of cattle running around all together.
So if one of them gets sick with something, they're
all gonna get it, and then you're gonna have tens
of thousands of cows that all get sick. That's one
of the things that we're seeing that that's so easy
about this whole supposed like bird flu, you know, quote
unquote pandemic, is that they've got millions and millions of
chickens that are inside crammed together in these huge barns.
(15:03):
They never see sunlight, they're never out. So if one
of the if one single chicken gets sick, the entire
flock of chickens are gonna get sick, so of course
they're gonna be injecting them with things because they're not
letting them out in the fields and spread out and
all that. So I think if we can figure out
how to decentralize the farming system instead of these huge,
big conventional farms, start start actually funding family farms again,
(15:27):
and to where we start buying and maybe we have
co ops and things like that, to where they band
together to have better pricing and all that kind of stuff.
But if we can start decentralizing our farming system, it's
actually going to be better for our health, it's going
to be better for national security. It's going to allow
our food to actually be higher quality, the less need
for antibiotics and and that sort of thing. Because think
about it, if you have if you have a farm,
(15:48):
instead of a million chickens on one farm, you spread
that out among ten farms. So let's just even say
it's one hundred thousand chickens on each and each individual farm.
Now let's say one farm you have a bird flu
pan emmick or they all get sick or whatever it is.
That's only one hundred thousand chickens ninety percent of the
chickens that in that same area are not getting sick,
so you don't have to deal with that. So that's
actually going to be better for our food production quality
(16:11):
and less need for antibiotics and things like that. So
I think that's one of the things that that Kennedy's
going to be looking at, is how do we get
away from the big conventional farming, because that is a
big part of why we are being indundated with toxins
and chemicals and pesticides is because it's all just in
a handful of super large corporations and super large farms.
If we can decentralize, we don't need all that crap.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well, here's here's the thing, Jeff, and I'm glad you
mentioned it. So farmers markets. Farmers markets, we have a
number of them out where we live. We've pretty much
gotten to the point where we don't buy slice bread anymore.
My wife makes it all from scratch, a lot of meat, milk, vegetables,
produce stuff like that we go to the farmer's market for,
which is all well and good. That's one area I
(16:54):
think where liberals and conservatives can actually come together. And
because you always have your you know, hip white liberal
women who pull up in their ninety thousand dollars SUVs
to buy organic milk. And then you have you know,
some Joe Mago with his truck pull up because he
doesn't want to eat what you know, big aggre is
putting in his body. So culturally we have a lot
of common ground there. The issue is cost.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Farmers markets are cost prohibitive for poor people. If you
go to a farmer's market and you want to buy
raw milk, you want to buy some grass fed ribbi steaks,
you want to buy some you know, farm raised fish
and things like that, you're easily walking out of there
with a bag of groceries. It's going to cost you
well over one hundred dollars if not more, organic, farm raised. Obviously,
(17:36):
there's a cost that comes with it. The reason that
you can buy a bag of frozen chicken for a
six ninety nine at the grocery store is exactly why
they can stick ten thousand chickens in one pen, feed
them the same thing, shoot them full of steroids, put
it on the market for a family to raise the
chickens and take the time the farm fresh eggs which
taste better. It's a different color, it's a different look
(17:57):
you you make if you get a lot of eggs.
I eat a lot of eggs, those farm fresh eggs.
It is a bright orange color. There's more electin there's
more coaline, there's more amino acids in there that are
so good for you as opposed to this garbage you're
getting from the grocery store. How do we make it
more affordable so that it's not just people who with means,
because you understand, obesity affects the poor far more than
(18:18):
it does everyone else, because that's a cheap option. If
you're a working family and you got to go to McDonald's,
you got to go to Burger King to get dinner.
You know, wealthier people can go afford the thirty dollars salad.
If you've got thirty forty five dollars to feed a
family of five, where else can you go but fast food?
So how do you and I feel like what we're
talking about are very liberal talking points. How do you
(18:40):
have some equity here so you can make it more
accessible to people that don't have the money to go
to a typical farmer's market.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah, well, so the reality of it is that you know,
there's two different things that are happening simultaneously when it
comes to the cost of food. So on one hand,
you're dealing with a lot a lot of the organic
you know, produce and food and and products. They're typically
more small business, right, and so a lot of times
they can't they can't drop the price down because because
(19:09):
they can't go on the volume. And I personally know
a bunch of owners of a bunch of a bunch
of startup like food brands and food products and all that,
and it's so difficult because they have so many hurdles.
And then on top of that, it costs them tens
of thousands of dollars per skew so per product in
order to get a USDA organic certification. So let's say
let's say you have an organic cracker company, right, and
(19:30):
they have five different kinds of crackers, it's all organic,
it's all the right kind of ingredients. That small startup brand.
In order to be considered a USDA or certified organic company,
they would have and let's just say it's ten thousand
dollars per skew. In order to be certified, they would
have to drop fifty thousand dollars to get five five
lines of crackers to be certified organic. And that goes
(19:52):
across the board for anything anything that's considered USD organic.
You see that stamp of the stamp of approval, that
seal that's on their package, that's tens of thousands of
dollars that that brand had to pay for that individual product.
Then they come out with another product, they got to
drop another you know, five figures in order to do that.
So that's a major problem. So I so I know
that when Kennedy was out campaigning for president, one of
the things that he was talking about was we need
(20:12):
to lower the lower the cost of getting that stamp
that that stamp of USDA certified. That way it opens
it up, it drops, it'll drop the cost down, drop
the price down additionally, So you've got you've got that
side of things. Volume is a huge problem. The cost
of being organic is a huge problem. The other side
that we're dealing with is the subsidy thing. So when
when we're dealing with that, the USDA subsidizes everything, which
(20:35):
which artificially makes a lot of the crap food very
very cheap. And that's why a lot of companies go
with seed oils and canola oil and all these different
kinds of oils and sugar. And you know, corn is
a huge subsidy as well. And so what our government
is doing is they're incentivizing these these food companies to
use these crap ingredients genetically modified corn using corn oil.
(20:58):
A lot of fast food restaurant use cottonseed oil to fry,
to fry their their French fries and fried food and
all that. And so what they're doing is they're subsidizing
all of these ingredients, which then makes it practically free
for these big for these big corporations to actually put
that into their foods, which is significantly dropping the price down.
That's why if you go to Walmart, you could buy
(21:19):
you know, you know, I think apasta for you know,
seventy five cents or ninety nine cents or whatever it is.
But if you want real food, it's gonna be two dollars,
three dollars, four dollars, so three four times as much money.
It's because it's because the crap food is being subsidized
by our government. So if you can take those subsidies
and say, look, we're gonna stop subsidizing corn and sugar
(21:39):
and canola oil and all these crap products. And we're
going to turn around and take that money that we
were subsidizing that was causing ramifications to our health, and
we're going to subsidize now organic farms, and we're gonna
subsidize organic produce and organic meat and you know, getting
you know, helping, helping to decentralize our farming system. Then
all of a sudden, you're going to see convey prices
(22:00):
go up and organic prices go down because now we're
subsidizing things that are going to help our health. So
that's one of the things that Kennedy was talking about
when he was running for president, and I'm almost positive
he's going to do that now with Secretary of HHS
Nice Well, Bob, I want.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
To pivot to you for a second. Do you think
with the awareness with seed oils and just how educated
consumers are and what they put in their bodies now,
do you think there's going to be a massive backlash
against restaurant chains and food companies that they need to
get in line with what Americans want for their health.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You know, boycott's things like that, because money talks.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
That's the only thing that makes these companies change their policies.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know about boycoutting the companies, but it's funny.
After the show, I'm driving to a farm and picking
up my grass fed beef and grass fed chicken eggs.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
So it's good for you that we're talking about this.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I people follow the money. So if the organic prices
can come down, I don't see why anybody would go
against it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I mean, we used to use tallow and for our oil.
But he's hitting all the right points. Man, Jeff, you're
well versed in this area well business.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, Well I've been, you know, in this whole world
for for years, way before anybody was talking to all
this kind of stuff. And so like for us, it's
like we we go out to eat and you know,
you you really have to realize and understands. Like if
you if you go out to a restaurant and you're like,
I'm gonna be healthy, I'm I'm gonna get I'm gonna
get olive oil. The vast majority of people don't realize
that in almost every single restaurant you're olive oil is
(23:31):
cut with canola oil. So if you if you go
to your local Italian restaurant, and you're like, look, i'm
gonna have I'm gonna have bread, I'm gonna be healthy. Okay,
I'm gonna get olive oil with with my bread and
dip it in there and all that kind of stuff.
That olive oil is typically about half canola oil in there.
So so what so what we do if we go
to a restaurant anything with it, We get cooked cooked
in butter or no oil at all because it's it's
(23:52):
hidden in like everything. Salads almost never get a salad
out because it's always gonna be canol oil. They're gonna
say it's olive oil. But I guess, garantee, you haven't
bring out the bottle. It's cut fifty percent with canol oil.
So you go down that route. Additionally, there's also there's
a there's a great app called seed seed Oil Scout.
I highly recommend everybody downloaded. So what they do is
(24:13):
they actually go and look at all the restaurants across
the entire country and and they figure out which ones
are going to be the easiest free to eat if
you want to avoid seed oils. So they'll tell you
which restaurants are completely seed oil free, which which restaurants
you can order food that doesn't have seed oils in it.
And so I recommend everybody to download that apps. It's
called seed Oil Scout, and it's a it's a great
(24:35):
resource for people to figure out how do how do
I go through life? Because that's one of the things
that I get, you know, back to me all the time,
is well, I can't live because seed oils are everywhere. Well,
there's a great resource you can actually go figure out
how to do it. If you're if you're getting a
steak or you're getting salmon, or you know, eating out,
ask for it to be cooked in butter, don't get
the French fries, get steamed vegetables. You know, you can
(24:57):
figure out how how to live and how to thrive
in these scenarios. And it's not even just going to
nice restaurants. You can go to, you know, an everyday restaurant.
I remember going into I spoke at Patriot Church in Tennessee.
Healthiest place in town was Cracker Barrel. Like, healthiest restaurant
in town was Crackerbell. So I go there and I
and I go in the morning and I'm like, okay,
(25:18):
So I go in there, I order my eggs, and
I'm like, cook it in butter. Okay, great, cook and butter.
You know, got bacon, cook it and butter as well.
Don't don't cook it in oil because a lot of
times they just fry in oil and dump oil all
over all over the place. And I'm like, okay, that
that that's my that's my breakfast. Is I got like
four eggs, I got some bacon, No, no seed oil,
none of none of the extra additives and all that
(25:39):
kind of stuff, and it's fresh. Oh and also, don't
order scrambled eggs when you're out, order actual fried eggs.
And the big reason is because they always mix in
fillers and dairy and oils in there in order to
make it go further. And so so that these are
all things that when you're in this world as long
as I've been in this world, you're dealing with all
this health stuff and seed oils and all of that,
(25:59):
you realize you have to understand the game and understand
how these companies work because they're looking at their bottom lines.
They're looking at their profit margins, which means we need
to stretch everything out as far as we can, which
is happening at Health ramification on yourself. So get educated
and then support companies and support brands that are doing
things right because the more you support them now if
you can afford it, the easier it will be for
(26:21):
them to lower the price because now they're going on volume.
So that's another thing that we can do as well.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
You got to remember that you can never, under any circumstances,
put your trust in corporate America. This is the same
corporate America that sells you cigarettes, that sells you alcohol.
They will sell they sell you gambling, they sell you pornography,
They will sell you anything that is bad for you
as long as you become addicted to it and you
will pay for it. So yes, just like cigarettes and
alcohol and pornography, food is an addiction. All these really
(26:49):
good tasting foods that make you feel good, that satisfy
that part of the brain for thirty minutes before you
feel like an absolute failure, that's an addiction. And we
as Americans, for whatever reasons, as much a freedom loving
people as we are, the one place where it comes
back to bite us is the freedom to destroy our
bodies and do whatever we want. We don't have that
(27:11):
level of cultural discipline. You might see in parts of Europe.
In Japan, for crying out loud, they don't have obesity
in Japan, un lists you're as suma wrestler because it's
just part of the culture. Our culture, despite all the
wonderful things about it, we are not a terribly disciplined culture.
And for whatever reason, and the Left has spent the
last thirty years pushing this body positivity, no judgment, things
(27:34):
like that. We're really I think for a lot of
us that grew up in the eighties and nineties, what
keeps people on the straight and narrow is the shame.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
And is the judgment.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, I don't want to get big in fat, because
then people are going to think less of me. I
don't want to make this decision because people are going
to think less of me. I think caring what people
think and having judgment, being able to point and shame
and say, hey, that's not a good look. Take anybody
who's had a lifestyle transformation, whether they quit drinking, using drugs,
lost weight, did something wonderful. I guarantee it wasn't because
(28:05):
they just woke up one day and started it on
their own. Something had to have happened, something had to
have happened like a villain origin story in Marvel that
put you on the path to become who you became.
So shame, judgment, competitiveness, wanting to be better, those are things.
Those are inherently American values and we need to get
back to that. But like we've talked about on all
of our programs across the board for the end of
(28:28):
time is we have to have a cultural backlash in
this country before we have a political and I think
we've had that. I think we've had that. Now, changes
don't happen overnight. It's not going to be you know,
if we're gonna wake up tomorrow and start making good decisions.
But I think the fact that we're aware of it
and we're talking about it when mind you, in twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty, we were not talking about it at all.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
This was not even on the menu at the time.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
And RFK brought that to the table, and now he's
got one of the most important seats at the table. Jeff,
thank you, thank you for coming on. I know it's short,
and but this is your wheelhouse, man, this is what
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You know.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
And I love Elon, he's great. He did a lot
for our country with all this, but I just I
disagree with his worldview on certain things. All these big
tech companies, what they're doing is they're using humanity to
build up their technology, artificial intelligence, transhumanism. You know, you
just go down, go down the gamut. They're using our
data in our individual you know thoughts and ideas in
(31:45):
order to build up their technology. We're doing the opposite
approach with Pickax. We're using technology to build up your voice.
So everything that we're doing with Pickax is I'm figuring
out what what what's available technologically, and then how can
we do how can we help the individual to amplify
their voice, because that's the whole point of the First
Amendment was our individual right to freedom of speech, our
individual right to freedom of the press, which back in
(32:07):
the day was you go down to your local printing press,
you write out your grievances against the government, have them
print out some flyers, you go down to your town square,
and you distribute it freely without restriction from the government
or restriction from anybody. That's your freedom of the press.
And that's what people forget. It's not Fox News or
CNN's right to say whatever they want. It's your individual
right to write out your opinions. So we're figuring out
(32:28):
how do we use technology to build up humanity, which
means much better algorithms are Our algorithms are content neutral,
they have no opinions. And then as well, we're going
to give content creators more access to their audience, you
more access to to your favorite you know, creators, and
then help content creators to be able to monetize. So
it's a big project. It's a lot of work, but
(32:49):
we're finally in growth phase right now, which is awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So it's a good place to be. Jeff Dornick.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Ladies and gentlemen, please give him a follow U supcord
him and check out Pickax.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Take care of Jeff. Thanks for coming. Thank yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
So as we wrap up here, Bob, I got to
tell you one of the things that's been floating around
and I just saw this morning that run DeSantis is
proposing it is abolishing property tax. Now, obviously that has
to be done on the local level. Government on the
federal level has no impact, can't do anything about that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
But you think about it.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You know, I've heard there's rumblings about abolishing income tax.
They talk about that every now and again. Whether that's
going to come to fruition or not, we'll see. But
property tax, you really like, when you think about property.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Taxes, you never really own your land. You are just
borrowing it from the government.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
So for someone who's working, you're in your your life
working where I live, property taxes are fifteen thousand dollars
a year. So that's a lot of money, and we
got to pay it. But I think, you know what
happens if I stay in my home. You know, I'm
forty three years old. Let's say thirty years from now,
I'm retired and I'm on a fixed income. I'm on
my retirement and I got to come up with that
fifteen grand a year when I'm hired. Way don't have
(34:00):
an income. But you have a lot of people that
have to sell their homes and they go and assisted
living facilities. They go rent because then you don't have
to pay property tax. And when you rent, I've been
of the opinion I think you're throwing.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Your money away. You don't have an investment in anything
that's yours.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
So do you think that's a feasible thing that governors
and you know, state governments, local governments could actually do
away with property taxes. And if they could, where's that
money going to come from? Because the play Devil's Advocate,
and I'm you know, I hate taxation of all forms,
but I understand it's a necessary evil.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
How are you going to pay for the roads to
schools things like that?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Well, without those going into the local governments, there's no way,
no way. But those should go to the states after
they're done hacking up the federal government. Another thing, property tax.
I think at least when you retire, that's it, because
like you said, fifteen thousand dollars a year, you got
to go get a job if you don't have the
(34:56):
retirement saying it is, and I've seen videos of people saying.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
That, Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And you know, if you're living on Social Security and
you're living on you know, your investments or if you
have them, let me say, is living on your investments?
I mean, like everybody's got a portfolio. Most Americans have
little to no net worth, and so you're able to
retire one day. Social Security constitutes a massive percentage of
your income, if not the whole thing. Fifteen thousand dollars
(35:23):
might be three months of social securities, it might be
three months of your living expenses that you have to
pay the government for the privilege to sit on a
piece of property you've owned for forty years, that you
paid off twenty years ago. The bank has no interest
in it, but now the city does. That's something that
needs to be done away with. I think that's a
great idea, Bob. I'm going to put out a post
after this. I'm going to attribute it to you. Those
(35:45):
should go to the states after they've run through the
federal government. I think that's a phenomenal idea. Just waste
on all levels and Americans. You know, when you go
to the store, you can buy a cheeseburger, you can
buy around a groceries. You buy a car, you get
a receipt. They show you how your money is spent.
Why don't we get a receipt when we pay our taxes. Hey,
you know, mister Dunlap, you paid seventy five thousand dollars
(36:08):
in taxes this year.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
This is where your money went. Yeah, you don't tell that.
They're talking about doing that. I know they're gonna pull
this off.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
They're gonna take all expenses generally and put it on blockchain.
So every time anybody writes a check for anything, it
has to be quantified and said, Okay, what is this for?
Where is it going to? It's it's going to go
that way. Another thing, too, is California. Imagine sending doge
over there. I mean, how much did we give them
for that high speed railroad and Newscomb just bought.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
A house for nine million bucks and it's got a
blue roof. Go figure.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Well, I'll tell you I think I think that's a
great idea to have Doge go to the States and
look at how your money is misappropriated. But I'll tell
you without anything coming of this like it's one thing.
And we on the writer are very big on victories,
but sometimes I fear our victories are merely symbolic. You
take lap, you brag on social media, you move along.
(37:02):
If we get to the bottom of this massive fraudulent
scheme where people are coming into government, becoming multimillionaires, taking
your money, investing in these pet projects which cost pennies,
and making millions saying, you know, I need to build
a well in Afghanistan. The well's gonna cost you know,
fifteen thousand dollars to build, but the line items is
(37:23):
ten million dollars. Well, someone's pocketing a lot of that money.
If we can't get accountability for those actions, then this
has all been for naught. Do you see even though
we're exposing now, do you see the next step being accountability?
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yes, for sure.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I admire your confidence. I hope to see that, Bob,
I just put your post out. Those should go to
the states after they run through the federal government. That's
a beautiful statement and I will tattoo that on my forehead. Guys.
With that being said, I want to thank all of
you for tuning in, thank you for being here with us,
and thank you to Jeff Dornick for joining us.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Guys. Jeff is a man.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
He's got a lot of knowledge when it comes to food.
That's that's sort of his family business. So you'll hit
him up. Make sure you're following him on social media,
make sure you're on Pickaxe, make sure you're everywhere where
your favorite content creators are. Because, like I said, and
I've told you guys, I've set it to the world
when news breaks, when things happen in the world, when
I get that message or that call, hey turn on
the TV, I don't turn on the TV. I look
(38:19):
to the people who I trust. I would much rather
come to Jack Posopik before I go to Sean Hannity
or anyone like that.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
So, guys, hopefully you know we are the media now,
but we also wield a lot of power in.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
This new age, in this new administration, and this is
really sort of what we've wanted to have happen, come
to fruition, and we owe that to Trump. Honestly, that's
definitely a reflection of everything he's been through. This is
a man who is back from the dead and now
to seek revenge and I'm all here for it. And
Elon Musk say what you will about him, don't always
(38:53):
agree with him, but man, he is a good citizen
and I'm damn glad he's on our side and not
funding riots on the other side.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, I'm off to the farm.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Off to the farm, go get your eggs, eat well,
be well, Love you guys, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
We'll see y'all soon. Take care.
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