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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I can't tell you how much fun it is to
visit with this man. I have known him since last century.
I'm just gonna put that way. But Clay Walker joins
us right now. First of all, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
That? Did a great?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Bob?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Is so good, so good to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We've been friends a long.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Time, Gully, I don't even want to, like I said,
last century, but man doesn't seem like that long buddy.
But let me tell you when it comes to music, Oh,
nobody can sing a song like clay Walker. Still remember
the very first time that I heard you and I
knew that that song was it to you. I knew
that was gonna be a big hit for you. That's
kind of what kicked everything off, were you right?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You know? I never get tired of it. You know,
we do that song every night, and when we get
we always do it last. And I just it just feel.
I don't want to explain this, but I still feel
pretty new.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah. Yeah, And I'm gonna ask you. I've kind of
warned you. I said, I'm gonna ask you questions that
I've never asked you before, but stuff that I've always wondered.
I don't think I ever know exactly how did you
get discovered in country music? There's got to be a
great story there, right.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well. Shared was that I was
playing in Beaumont, Texas, and I guess Mark Chessunt and
Tracy Byrd, you know, also played there at a place
across town called Cutters and I played at a place
called the the Neon Armadillo. And so both of them
had gotten record deals at MCA, and somebody had come through,
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somebody from Louisiana that knew James Stroud. James Stroud was
the producer that was producing Clint Black and Charlie Daniels
in Little Texas and among the others. And anyway, he
heard about me, said James Stroud made a trip down
there to listen to me, and he heard me, and
we had a meeting and he just said, come on
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to National, let's make an album. So that's really how
it started.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Way what a dream come true? Hell were you back then?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I was twenty one or two.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But you've been working in the club for a while though,
being in the house, all right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
He hadn't to work in clubs for since I was fifteen,
and so that particular gig that I was working out.
I'd been there a couple of years, but I traveled
out a bit too. You had to go into Arkansas
or Oklahoma or Louisiana and play clubs and didn't come
back home to the house gig as we called it
back then. And that's that's really how people got discovered,
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is you had to be able to back it up live.
You know, they wanted to hear you live. And it
was a great It was a great thing. I remember
the night that James Troudd came in, though he didn't
stay for any songs, and I thought he was disappointed
because I was doing original songs. I was doing Live
until I Die and some other songs that I'd written,
and so he left early, like in the middle of
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my first set. I remember putting my guitar down and
running out of the parking lot try to stop his car,
and he rolled the wedding down. I said, mister Strouds
that said, I'm sorry that all those covers, I mean,
all those originals. Maybe I should do some covers and
he goes, no, he goes, I loved it. I heard enough.
He said, we're making novel that quick. Huh.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Now, there was something about Beaumont back then, because everybody
was coming out of Beaumont. I mean, Beaumont was the
star of the Texas music. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, you know so many artists have come from Texas
and especially that area. You know, Yeah, you've had You've
had a text ritter, you know, Janice Joplin, I think,
Lazy j Dalton, Uh, I mean even Zeezy Top played
a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And George Jones, I mean, it's about the golden Triangle
in Texas.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
George Jones, Mark Tessa, Tracy than me, and so it's
just it was it was wild how that happened. You know.
I remember my bass player at the time saying, they say, like,
it never strikes twice in the same place. He says,
but you went, Mark Chessa, Tracy Birdie goes, I think
it's going to strike three times.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It did, and everybody wanted to go to Beaumont and
drink the water, to see what was in the water
in Beaumont's going.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think you know what made it so popular, to
be honest, his his Beaumont is just a blue collar,
working class town. And you know, none of us grew
up rich, you know, and it's like we just related
to most people. So country music was at that time too.
You know you had George strad who was on fire,
Randy Travis on fire, you know, Garth Brooks, Clint Black
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were just you know, really just storming the scene and
all this. So there was so much positive energy going
for country music. And there was a great country music
radio station there too, actually two of them. You know.
We had Kicker k Y KR and then we also
had Katie ninety seven. So we had great country music
radio stations. So I gotta actually throw a little a
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little reward your way, you know, the radio land. That's
what really got it started for us.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, it was great. Okay, I've never asked you this question,
but I've always learned about it. Alan Jackson the song
that he wrote that you got ahold of right.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
If I could make a living out eleven.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Why didn't Alan ever record that. I'm not knocking your version.
I love your version, And the only problem I have
with that song is it's too short. I mean, you
can't even run to the bathroom when it's on the air.
You know it's but seriously, how did you get that? Okay, good,
we'll do that. Well, the old days you could do that.
But how did you get a hold of an Alan
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Jackson song.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
He had recorded an album and they had already recorded
all the songs, but he had written that one right
at the end of recording. So he and Keith Stegall.
Keith Stiegall is his producer and has been on all
of his records. By the way, Keith Stieghall lives across
the street from me.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Now, no way.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, And I'll get to that in a minute. But
when I first heard that song, if I can make
a living, I was like, this is a smash and
James Troud played it for him, and you know, I've
written a lot of the songs that I've recorded, but
I didn't write that one. And but I just said,
are you sure Alan knows that I have the song
and I'm going to record it? And he goes, absolutely,
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he wants you to. I said, man, I said, I'm
gonna make this the album title titled to the album.
I love It song. You know went number one for
several weeks. And yeah, I've often wondered, you know, I
don't know Alan, but I've often wondered if he's ever thought, man,
I probably should have done.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That well, he's got enough money. I wouldn't worry about it.
But you know, I've never even heard the demo. And
that's what you've got it. You heard the demo with
him singing on.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It, right, singing it, them singing it, and uh, you
know he's sang it better than I could.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know, come on, you're the one that had to
hit with it. Don't worry about it, Dan, are you.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You got to give credit where his due.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, he's a songwriter. And but you know, let me
tell you Alan, if Alan had recorded the song would
have been a little bit longer. I'm telling you that.
You know, his drawl is a little bit slower than
yours and mine.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know, are you saying it wouldn't have been Yeah,
I'm saying too, it wouldn't have been.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh good pun Clay won't put you on the radio. Okay,
Let's talk about Keith Stiegel quickly, because you said he
lives right across from you. Now is he a good neighbor.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He's a great neighbor. And we are recording my new
album no Way. Yeah. We recorded six sides, we have
four more to go. I can't wait for that to
come to come out. First quarter of next year, and
it has been a.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Blast, So it comes down next year. Now. The last
time I saw you was in February of this year,
and then, you know, we had a little visit, talked about,
got to spend some time together. And then a few
days after our visit, I find out something about this
Randy Travis movie and I'm going, well, hell, he didn't
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even mention that to me.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, it's so exciting. So there there's a company of
you know, a big producer and director who were going
who wrote the script already right for this Randy Travis movie,
and it's going to be in theaters. It's a major
theatrical release. And so they asked me to play. So
there's going to be three stages of Randy's life, One
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when he was just a kid, and then two when
he first got discovered, and then three when he you know,
when he hit it big and up to where he
is now. And so I'm gonna I'm going to play
that third stage of Randy's life. And I'm super pumped
about it. I mean, it's uh, it's been talked about
for a couple of years and now it's now it's
actually happening. So we'll start filming the movie next year.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I can always you're going to be the middle Randy Travis.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'm going to be. I want to be the one
that you know is going through most of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Okay, okay, right before he gets discovered being a catfish boy,
he's cooking catfish, is what you're saying? Fried catfish.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm you know, there'll be uh. I guess I played
Randy like from age forty on, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Interesting?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Okay, Yeah, and I guess he's probably sixty five.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Now, he's a little bit older than we are. Yeah,
but I tell you he's a treasure too. Are you
gonna I assume there'll be a soundtrack? Also, is it
going to be your voice or Randy's voice?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, that's I think it's gonna be a blend of both. Cool.
He is, you know, man, what a singer? I mean,
what a you know, George Straight is obviously you know,
the king and the you know, the greatest country music
artist of all time. I just I just think Randy's
got to be in there as far as vocals, you know,
just unbelievable. Just you know, I can't when I listened
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to his voice, I'm just like could there ever be
a better country music scene than Randy Travis. I don't
think so.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
No, no, no, And thank goodness, he brought the traditional
sound back. And this is not the first time that
you've thought about making movie because for a long time
you you wanted to do something with Chrystal do.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I did. I was so surprised you remember that, But
I really did want to do the Crystal to Do piece. Well.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I was talking to a mutual friend of ours, Governor
Rick Perry, about this years ago, when this when we
were we were talking about this, and that would have
been so cool if that had happened. Big. I know
you're a big fan of Crysaler, who's music like I am.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh yeah, a huge fan is But you know, things
work out the way they're supposed to work out. But
Governor Perry, what a what a great guy. Golly, just
a sweetheart of a man. You know, one of my
really close friends. And I didn't know that you knew
any but he's just a really really man. And you
may you live over there in God's Country, I mean
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in Austin, Good Grace.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well, actually I live outside of Austin Cedar Park, which
you know, it's well this is God's country out here.
We got neighbors who don't throw beer cans in our
front yard, so we're kind of happy about that.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Anyway, I did a show there. I did a show
in that arena.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, the HTV Center, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a
fun place. We have hockey out there too. Boy, I
never thought hockey would take off in Austin, Texas. But
it's fun, a lot of fun. Uh well, so we're
going to see you New Year's Eve, which is so
we get to ring in the New Year with Clay Walker.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You know when that when Austen said in the miss
got pitched to me for that, I was like, is
this is real? I mean, like that's a that's like
a bucket lister. You cool New Year's Eve there such,
you know, unbelievably historical place and just just I have
not played New Year's Eve. I bet I've played only
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one time in the last ten years of I've played
New Year's Eve, I think. And so we used to
do Reunion Arena, you know, in Fort Worth, and uh
so this is uh, this is unbelievable to do this one.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Oh did you take over the George Strait gig at
Reunion Arena New Year's Eve. Yeah, because I remember George
used to do that all the time. I wouldn't say
take it over. I think he just kind of gave
it up. Okay, yeah, but you but you filled it
of course. Yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And now I think Willy Willy has played well Willie.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
We used to go every every New Year's Eve to
see Willie and that stopped about maybe five six years ago. Yeah,
so it's gonna be kind of fun to see what
you what happens on stage at midnight. I don't want
to scare you, but usually at midnight, at least at
the Willie in Shreich, some old man would walk out
wearing a diaper and, uh, you're not going to do that,
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are you.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, I don't think you're talking about Willy.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
No, it wasn't Willie. It was some stage hand. They
called him father Time. But there was a guy wearing
a diaper that'd walk out there with a little I
can't say the word midget, can I? Wow, this is
a podcast? What the heck? A small person would walk
out wearing a baby diaper and he was the New Year.
You know. It was a weird. Austin Texas keep it
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weird kind of thing to bring in the new year.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So I'd definitely call that weird.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, you've got three weeks to work on that and
to get volunteers. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, Nobama, I don't need one. I got you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, listen, I'm not the guy that dressed up a
Bevo at a concert and walked around the arena trying
to get people to figure out who he was. Oh, Clay,
come on, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
That you know something? That's one of the funnest moments
I've ever had. It was it was nothing. It was
close to Halloween.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Wasn't it was on Halloween? Because it was the Dixie Chicks.
And the way that you got recognized is you were
wearing the coolest pair of Ostriche boots and people have
done your boots and said, wait a minute, this Clay
Ye didn't wear Bevo's not wearing Ostridge boots. It's Clay Walker.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Do you know how fun it was to walk around
in front of that in the in the audience. Yes,
that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That's one of the craziest thing. Now, Okay, and maybe
that's your new year's gig right there, when it comes
in at midnight. You just walked out wearing a bev
O hat on who knows right