Ep 152 | Fateful Findings: Part 2 - Boob Tube Boys

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Ladies and gentlemen, I've hacked intothe subnet usermask dot two dot five five,
also that I can beam this podcastdirectly in your ears. That's right.
I'm Van Lee, and I'm ahacker. I'm a Hackerman hacker.
Van. What's that, Spencer?It doesn't sound like hacking without clackety noises.
Well, that's what I was thinking, But I would never accuse you

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of not hacking. I screwed upand didn't hit record, I think,
And anyway, we're having to redothe intro, so that's why it's really
weird. But that was Spencer Hendricks. We've got Brian Vaughan over here.
What does he have to say?Once we're done with this episode, all
those crooks and criminals and ne'er dowells will be behind bars or behind I

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don't know what you'd call what well. I won't spoil the ending. That's
right. When we last discussed NeilBreen's fateful findings with you, ladies and
and everyone in between out there,Jim, our friend Jim, he had
revealed his great secret. Wait,Jim didn't reveal that that he's been hacking
the government secrets. Maybe every characterhas been in this movie. I don't
think Jim is a hacker. Idon't think you'd called the side view mirror

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of his Camaro a government secret.Well, clearly someone hacked into my notes
and fucked that up, because whatI'm trying to say is Dylan, who's
Neil Brien's call? That's your problem? Is you just want to say Neil
Brien, Yeah, I certainly do. He is hacked into all of the
government secrets and asked some damning information. What that information is we are not
privy to the first time I sawthis movie, though I thought I wonder

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what it'll be. I didn't thinkthat ever. Again, you didn't think
that nothing is what it will be. Well, we're going to find out
maybe what it is. We're goingto find out all about the systems of
power who will suffer and fall becauseof this information. We're also going to
find out about Dylan's girlfriend, Emily, who is currently struggling with a little
bit of addiction to Dylan's pain medication. I mean, she did dig it

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out of the toilet. She's aboutto have some of her finest moments coming
up here. Get the oscar ready, and Neil Breen has one of what
I think is the most underrated linesin the movie in response to this problem.
But we'll get to it. We'llhave to hear what that is.
But we've also got Amy and Jim, afore mentioned Jim who is not hacking.
He is cleaning his Camaro, hishot rod, his sports car.

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Amy doesn't like that, but alsoJim wants sex with Amy, his wife,
but she won't because she's got abad back because of her bosoms.
Either way, they're an unhappy couple. That's also going on in the background.
But there's a little bit of atwist to that plot in that they
have a daughter, possibly only astepdaughter. It is not entirely clear Ali.
We're presented with contradictory evidence she willeventually lead potentially to the downfall of

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our hero because of lust and aninsatiable need to get a hold of Neil
Breen's leathery grandma like body. We'llsee, we will, we'll find out.
Just get back into it, gentlemen. We got a lot to cover
as we finish off final Faithful Findingstoo. Something with a bunch of f's

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Foo fighters are stupid name what areperiod? This is Dave Grohl and Faithful
Findings. I was thinking about howmany different things in culture are FF and
how no one thinks it's Fateful FindingsFinal Fantasy. That was when I thought
there's another one too that was reallyprominent, but I don't remember it now.
I loved in Faithful Findings ten.Is that the the mmo RPG?

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No, that one is and thisis pretty regular age but waka. You
know, he's a disciple of Yevanand it gets to be pretty obnoxious as
the game goes along. But hisweapon is a ball. He hits people
with a ball. And then there'sLulu and she's somehow keeping that dress up,
keeping those nipples covered in the rikuand the al bed and anyway,

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there's a lot going on. Ilike that version of I do wish there
were somehow as many Faithful Findings asFinal Fantasy. There need to be.
What are there now? Like six? They just really sixteen? Right?
I don't play him anymore. Idon't like the new direction they're in.
I like the old RPG style.Now they're more action oriented, but we're
not talking about that. We're talkingabout Faithful Findings. God hasn't ever stopped
you with metal gear solid. Maybethat comes up late. Maybe it doesn't.

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We'll see. Oh is anyone inthis movie involved with a Metal Gear
Solid game? Yeah? Actually,Neil Breen plays Big Boss in Metal Gear
Solid five. Actually, if anyonecould be described as Snake Eater, you
were on a little bit of adry spell with Solid Snake Ahead and her
truference. I forced one of youlast time. Yeah, but there hasn't
been too many of your deunit lately. Well, in this movie, we
opened back up after Dylan's big revealthat he's got a bunch of government secrets

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and his addicted girlfriend Emily, she'shere. She's on the phone talking to
someone we don't know who, andshe is fucked up, man, how
can you actually tell? Well,she's kind of lazy eyed, and she
wobbles a bit, right, andthen she tells who You're right, No,
that's actually hers normally, but shetells whoever it is on the other
end of the phone that Dylan stoppedtaking his meds. And she's saying,

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this is like, oh no,this is trouble. Dylan stopped taking his
meds. Can you get some forme? Because you know, you can
just call someone else's doctor and sayI would like their pills. Now,
David Lee seems like the kind ofdoctor who would do that. He would
you mean, doctor David s Lee'sa therapist. It's sweet eleven to eleven.
I think he's fairly fishing for informationon Dylan here and trading that intel

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for pills. Like he'll give herpills if you tell me what's going on
in Dylan's life. Yeah, becausehe is really curious about Dylan. And
the other thing is I get envisioned. David s Lee wants five o'clock hits.
He puts those pills in his briefcaseand goes and like sells them on
street corners. Well, we're quicklyback at our old friend's lace here,
Doctor David s Lee, psychotherapist.He sits at his giant conference room table,

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and he asks Dylan, who's hereat the opposite end, if he
enjoys hanging out with him still,and Dylan kind of tells him no,
But David says, well, letme help you, and then he waves
a bunch of pills at Dylan andDylan says, no more pills. And
then that is the end. That'smore of that, Yeah, and I'll
not one more time that dock orDavid Esley covered in sweat, covered in

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boils, probably too, certainly hasthose old man liver freckles, any of
the twelve plagues that man might undergofrom God. He's undergoing them. Lots
of locusts. Yeah, you can'tsee him, but they're under his clothes.
I do think this might be anotherthing Neil brain Pulfman's real life where
he like went to a therapist onceand the guy tried to get him on
medication, and he was like,that's evil. I will not take your

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pills. Yes, this is partof his puritanical streak. I think that.
Yeah, he either got a prescriptionthat didn't work, or someone in
his family he felt they changed aftertaking pills, something like that. He
definitely is a bit of a teetotaler. I don't he does drink beer,
but I think he's a beer oralcohol on the guy. Everything else is
bad for you. He always hasthings about pills, He has things about

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any sort of mind altering things,and sex too. He's definitely prudish or
reluctant about sex in some way.We're right back at Dylan's home and he's
yelling at Emily about something. Theaudience doesn't quite know for sure, but
then she confirms, which is thathe somehow knows she's addicted to pills and
is yelling at her for this.I may basically hold two separate conversations here.

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I'm certain they filmed several different scenesmushed them together, but they do
eventually talk about how he wants herto go to rehab for her pill addiction,
and she says, no, no, it's my choice. I'm not
going. That is true, then, interesting way to put it. She's
instantly on the phone and he's justtap tapping away on his laptop real quick.
I need to mention this line,he says during their argument about the

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pills, that just really I loveit so much. They're talking about a
pill addiction they're both fully aware of, and Neil Brien says, your pill
taking for pain relief has gotten outof control, even says why So she's
on the phone, He's there justtyping away about government secrets. He looks

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over and says, I've got toget this work done. It's a tone
that suggests he's no longer yelling ather, but is instead complaining about work,
and he doesn't mean to. It'sthe editing like you said, Van,
But it makes it seem like hecould give a shit about whatever she's
going through. Out of nowhere,she sighs and angrily slams down her phone.
She says loudly, my job sucks. And this is new because we

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didn't even know she had a job. Oh no, they never presented her
that way. And she says shedoesn't like the people she works with.
Okay, I get it. Idon't like the people. I don't like
you guys. His response to thisis I've got to get this work done,
and then he goes right back toloudly slamming his fingers on those keyboard
and that old laptop. But hedoesn't actually do that. He doesn't get

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back to work. He doesn't startwriting his next great big novel. No,
I don't think he's actually working ona novel. What he actually does
is this, I've hacked into justabout all the information I need. They
have no idea it's going to changethe world as we know it. It's
going to change everything. They haveno idea. The bank is failing.

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I told you, they're not holdingthe same conversation. He cut up separate
scenes, like you said, andhe put them in the different order,
and I don't think it even servesa purpose. No. I think what
happened was is when you're editing thesethings in like Premiere pro, which apparently
he uses, you have different linesfor different video tracks, you can overlay
him or whatever. I think hedeleted a whole video track and everything shifted

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five minutes to the left, andhe said it doesn't make a difference,
it's fine. It kind of happensagain later too, and it makes me
wonder, like, did he justdelete something? Is it on purpose?
Is he thinking, like you know, a lot of directors these days like
to mess with the chronology of amovie to kind of give the story a
jarring feel. And I'm gonna guess, whatever the case, it was not
that last one. I think heall does still think that this is all

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logical stuff. I don't know.It's just like he's an inhuman ghoul who
is sent to the planet to destroyeveryone but got distracted by filmmaking, like
some sort of demon said, I'venoticed that humans like movies a lot.
Can you stop that? Can youmake it to where they don't anymore?
I think the way that Emily gotvictimized here makes me just really have a

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deep fondness for because she's screaming incoherentlyabout banks, about banks and her job,
while Neil Newbrain's like, I'm hackingand I'm doing all kinds of secret
stuff. And this is just aftertalking about her pill addiction. At this
point, Emily is nuts. Therest of the way, guys, he's
hacked into about all the information heneeds. Another good thing is how he

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repeats twice how they have no idea, and then later admits to Leah towards
the end that they probably know He'sgot that in the same sentence. And
it's beautiful. However, I reallylike the idea of applying the they have
no idea on a metal level.As he's making this movie, he's like,
no one, no one who watchesthis is going to know what hit
up. Well, after yelling aboutthe bank, for some reason, maybe

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she worked at a bank. Shedoes? Is that what it is?
Yeah? Huh, I think?Or maybe I just mean that possibly her
and Amy work at the same bank, because doesn't Amy also mention she's tired
from the bank or something that couldbe Perhaps Amy, though was just a
customer. We don't know. Well, Emily says she needs more pills and
stronger ones. At that, Ihear you, girl, And then he

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just shakes his head and says,it's a crutch. Straighten your life out.
And again I think he believes thiswholeheartedly, that like mental anguish is
not real and medication can't help.But as with most addicts, when she
doesn't get what she wants, shebegins to lash out at the people around
her, which I like. Soshe says to him, what if all
my addiction and rattles are your fault? Huh? Pretty valid in this case

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it's Neil Breen. He refutes herby mentioning how supportive he's been by constantly
telling her that he has to getthis work done. Yeah, that's what
it is. I'm always helping you. I'm busy too focused on his work
to pay attention to what's going onwith this own spouse or girlfriend. I
don't know. But she does continuethe verbal jabs and says she meant what
she said earlier, it's your faultI take bills. When I guess it

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kind of is because he had thebills first. But now what she means
he said, he's a good guythough, and he is a good guy
in this scenario, of course,he's flawless. And he tells her he
misses the girl he used to knowand he wants her to come back,
and she snaps back, she's nevercoming back. True. So he half
yells let's talk, which is whatthey've been doing, and then she reaches

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out and they hold hands, andI guess they've solved the problem for now.
And I wondered if part of thiswas out of order too, because
he says like, I've got workto do. I can't do this,
and then he's like, let's talk. You're trying to have a conversation with
someone that goes anything like this.Can you imagine like the twists and how
you would even approach from either oftheir perspectives at this point, I would
assume I had a stroke, yeah, or you'd be like, what button

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do I push to get it tosay a different thing? It's not saying
things that makes it. It's likea magic eight ball that can talk.
It's like they ran it through GoogleTranslate into several different languages and then put
it back to English. It justdoesn't quite gel. I like the fact
that maybe this whole reveal about Emilyhaving this other life we don't know about
where she works at a failing bank. I'd like to think that also Dylan

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didn't know that about her. Yeah, he didn't know she had a job.
This could all be covered in theprequel that I now want called First
Full Findings. But then he's immediatelyback in his office, furiously typing,
and she slams her hand on hisdesk. She's here, and she says,
I'm done talking, and did shejust need a few hours to figure

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out how to respond? Is thatwhat you think? So? Yeah,
He quickly and as quickly as abrain can go, snatches her by the
arm and drags her close to him, and it is very slow and deliberate
and in his frail, delayed grandmaway. It's definitely the first part of
a Resident Evil game when you're inthe tutorial and they're teaching you the controls
and the zombies are real slow.That's how he moved. It's enough to

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be like, are you it's herthat's on the bills. He looks her
dead in the eye and he saysreally, And then he begins to just
knock shit off of his desk.He's flinging papers, he's like a big
playful cat. Laptops are being knockedoff. He's so weird, maybe the
weirdest scene in the movie. Butthis simple act of love guys completely resets

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her attitude. She smiles ear toear. She begins tugging at his shirt,
ripping the fabric so it reveals alittle bit more of his skeleton shoulder,
and they are giggling and playfully rippingeach other's shirts back and forth as
it no one's ever done this.Yeah, they embrace, They tickle through
papers, giggle, rip shirts more, and finally kiss. Finally he gets

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to return the favor now that hisnipples are out, and he tugs on
her shirt and pulls it all theway down to the nipple line, but
then stops. Then he stops.He says, Oh, that would be
rude of me. And this iswhat I mean about the male chest being
treated the same as a woman's chest. I think I agree with you overall.
But what I think happened here isher shirt has a call or it's
a little sturdier, and he wasn'tstrong enough to get it down. Now

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that could be he might have actuallybroken like a little bone on his wrists.
Drying and he whimpers, yeah,and that's why she's having to get
his shirt off by whole Cogan method. But they kiss some more instead.
That's what goes down. And withthat storyline, I guess resolved. It
isn't it comes back a little bit. But for twenty minutes now, it's
fine. Their shirts fall to thefloor at the end that he thinks that's

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really sexy. Yeah, you focuson both couples feet and then you just
show their shirts hitting the ground andyou know all kinds of sexy things are
happening. You would have to ripthem up to get them to be wide
enough to go down over your wholebody and your pants. It's because their
pants are still on. Yeah,that's interesting. He likes feet a lot,
guys, a lot of feet inthis movie. Do you think Neil
Breen's had sex? Ooh, Ithink he has, And this is dejav

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vous with our Tommy with this episode. I think he has, but only
a couple of times. But hewasn't as scarred from it as Tommy Wiseau
was. So he has a badrelationship with it because he doesn't understand it,
not because he hates it like wasOh, Tommy was oh, definitely
presented the women in his movie asantagonists. Yeah, they were. There's
a little bit of compassion not enoughfor Emily in this movie somewhere in there.

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I do think Neil brings a littlebit kinder in that way. He
seems too off to me socially andtwo career focused to ever have had a
chance to do that. So Ifeel like he's probably never been in any
sort of romantic relationship. Again,I don't say this to give him any
guff at all. It's just allof it seems so foreign to him when
he tries to write it or presentit on screen. Dylan heads to his

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appointment with good old doctor David sLee, psychotherapist, but he notices a
door to a different room, Iguess, and this one, which is
a different suite, not eleven eleven, says doctor a Andra, psychotherapist,
Suite twenty three to twenty three.She's not a doctor, that's the difference
between the two. Apparently, nowyou know, you know she's good because
she's got double Michael Jordan numbers.But he says, I know my appointment

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is with doctor David s Lee.I'll just go in this one instead,
And that's how therapists work. Theyjust set in an empty office waiting for
someone to walk in on them.Anybody walks in, Okay, let's get
the business. Yeah, Like Ido my therapy over zoom. But sometimes
if my therapist isn't available, Ijust kind of find one, you know,
And they don't know me or anythingabout me or what I've been talking

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about it for years. They juststart trying to figure it out. Lee
enters this room and this is theliteral opposite of this previous doctor's room because
instead of a long ass table witha bunch of chairs between them, there
are two like steel folding chairs likeone you might hit Mick Foley with,
and they're next to each other,and he's sitting in one, but then

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sitting in the other one is someonewho somehow looks older than Neil Breen.
It's a very very very very oldwoman sitting in the other and look Obviously
I make fun of people's looks occasionallyI try to be good with it because
I don't like to do it whenpeople don't deserve it, or for example,
I don't like to call out societalthings which I don't think are right,

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like, for example, women reallystruggle with beauty standards, so I
don't like to be like good woman'sugly, But this woman, I have
to say, looks dead. Yeah, she is one hundred and fifty.
I thought it was remarkable and Ican't even explain why, because she,
like her voice is strong. Youknow, she can carry out her lines
as well as anybody in this thing, I guess. But she does physically

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look like they got her into thischair and that's going to be the last
place she ever is. Like,you know, when at the end of
Kill Bill two, when he getshit with the five finger death punch or
whatever, he has five steps leftto go, that's her. She's only
got five left, so if theymove her again, that's it. Do
you think that Neil Breen did somethingdigitally to her face to make her look

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well, I'm serious. Do youthink like he edited her because that's the
oldest person I've ever seen? Yeah? Is there a makeup situation where I
was like, because her character ismeant to be some sort of mystical mummy
type who's in on the now whatit's worth, Her character has that vibe,
her expressions on her face, shepulls off what she's going for she

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does. I mean, she's notgood at reading lines or anything, but
she has the look of what hercharacter's supposed to be. And I do
think Neil Breen was going for someof the things that I mean, this
is the worst way to do it. But instead of being way far apart
at the conference table, they're sittingknee to knee, so they're closer and
understand each other. Instead of overhadfluorescent lighting, there's like a police interrogation,
one bowl banging down, and theninstead of a greedy guy trying to

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sell in pills, you have likean old woman version of Morpheus. She's
super wise and she knows he's magical. She does know he's magical. She
might be magical, or so Ithink she's magical. None of this is
explained, neither are the bad guys. So do you think that she works
for the rival whatever the organization isthat rivals the people in the rolls Royce?
But I think that organization, ifyou will, is spiritual and godlike

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I do too, and almost liketouched by an angel, where she shows
up to do good. Maybe shekind of pushes David Esley off a bridge
and like, I'll be this guy'stherapist now only, and that's not true.
We see him later. She's theRoma Downey character, except several hundred
years later. It's like she gotcaught in an ice storm and was frozen

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that way and then unthowed and livedanother eighty eighty five years and then started
therapy school. But honestly, ifyou're Neil Breen, this is the thing
to do, because he looks likea sprite compared to her. Yeah,
I will say, next to her, I was like, who's this strapping
young boy? Oh? Oh,it's Neil Breen, a fifty five year
old man. Well, anyway,doctor Andra here she kind of calls out

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Dylan as a sort of all knowingangel. She's looking out for him.
She says he needs to be carefulbecause they know about it. Whether this
they refers to the government agent seeshe's hacking into or the mystical disappearing people
who made their ghost noises around him, either way, they know about it.
Neil Breen then does this cool trickwhere he looks in a mirror and

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we see him as a mirror image, but then he walks away and mirror
image stays there. I love thatsoul every time he learns one new little
trick. He puts it in themovie and there's not a reason for it,
and it's kind of charming because youknow, he's just like, I
need to shoehorn the send because it'scool that I learned how to do it.
And so now we're back with ourfavorite couple, Jim and Amy.

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Amy takes a handful of pills.She chases him down with a glass of
wine. She's I think about tobe in for a pretty wonderful evening here,
but then Jim shows up. Heapologizes to her. She apologizes to
him, saying, I let youdown. You know, we both got
problems. Let's work on it.There's a bit of a strange tonal shift
here in their discussions, like she'sbeen nothing but annoyed by him the whole

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time, and now she's apologizing tohim for reasons we don't know. But
then again he's like, okay,let's work on it. She says suddenly,
no, let's not work on itnow. I let you down.
But it's too late. And thisis another one of those Breen things where
I think he's like, well,this is a more nuanced situation, like
sometimes one of the partners does wantto reconcile on the other doesn't and the
timing doesn't work, but he doesnot again other than the broad idea,

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he presents it in such an offputting alien way. If you feel contrite,
why would you then be like buttoo late to fix it? Yeah,
sorry that I messed it up,but yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah, you wouldn't do that unlessyou were holding it over the person
and being a monster. Then theghost man who's shiny black shoes and slacks
we saw at the hospital bed,he shows back up. He's at some
building. He disappears his way througha front door. He has an open

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door, he disappears, and thenhe's through it. That's another one of
the tricks that Neil Brain the directorhas that he likes us in his toolkit
and he just kind of walks arounda bit with an ominous soundtrack playing in
the background. That's it. Nothinghappens than that. I'm now disappointed thinking
about it that we didn't get anopportunity to see what Neil Breen would make
like a supernatural monster guy look likelike if this guy had a face,

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well, and this is him,right, it has to be. I'm
pretty sure, Neil Breen would alsowant to play the monster, and he
wouldn't have to do that much.He'd be more suited for that role.
You know. Maybe he could bea lizard man and he could wear some
sort of scales on his head andhe wouldn't have to say words. He
could just do that moaning he doesa lot, especially at the beginning of
the movie. There's a lot ofmoaning. There is a problem though,

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where he couldn't be like a physicallyintimidating monster. So I don't know how
that would work. Yeah, it'sthe kind of monster where if you approach
it, you'd be like, hmm, I know I could kill this easily,
but maybe it has some sort ofmind power. Next, Dylan is
working and I do that in airquotes at his desk and Emily excitedly comes
in and sits on his lap andsays, it's late, come to bed.

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But the thing is it's not latebecause you can see the sun shining
through the blinds behind him. Buthe says, I'd love to come to
bed, but I'm busy. I'msorry, I'd love to come to bed.
And this is verbatim. He's justrepeating himself. But I need you
to go away now. I havetoo much to do. She gets annoyed
leaves, and then he bangs aroundon a laptop and pretends to read a

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book with his finger, like youknow the kid who can't read in grade
school. And this is his bookagain, yes, again, this is
the book he wrote. He thenflops on the couch next to Emily and
apologizes and says I'm sorry I pushedyou away. This is instant. This
is back to back, by theway. Yeah, you need to put
like a little bit of content andthen come back to the scene here instead
of immediately addressing it. And it'srapid fire. Bang bang bang bangk.

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He is so bad at pacing.He either smushes him to get scenes together
like this or he doesn't resolve them. It can sit for a while.
They do kiss, but in themiddle of kissing, she says to him,
you're having an affair, aren't you, and he says, no,
don't be ridiculous, I'm not havingan affair. I'm just frustrated with writing.
Although I haven't told you the truth. She freaks out, thinking,

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oh, well, it's another woman, and once again he says no,
but Lady Justice, Yes, whathe reveals something you have not yet heard
about in this movie. I havenot been writing another novel. I've been
hacking into government and corporate international secretsall over the world, and I'm going
to expose them all and no oneknows I'm doing it. No one knows.

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What are you crazy? That's dangerous. Don't tell anyone, don't tell
anyone. Holy shit, this ishuge. Oh wait, no, we
know this. This is like afit time we've heard this. This is

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another time where the isolated audio isso funny to me because it really reveals
how weird it all is. Howthe lines are red, the just gargantuod
pauses between line reads. Yeah,I didn't cut any of that around.
That's legit from the movie. Afterthis, they just kind of press their
faces together before ghost noises start againand we get another trash bag wall scene.

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We haven't seen that in a bit. We're about to see it like
five hundred times in twenty minutes.Well, this time it doesn't have naked
Neil Breen, but it does havethat giant golden tome from the beginning in
movie, that giant golden book andoh wait no, here's naked Neil Brinny
and never mind, he was therethe whole time. I thought I smelled
something. Dylan and Emily have onceagain seemingly worked out all their problems.

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They're in good shape. They're standingin the kitchen, kind of mashed into
the corner together, like no twopeople would do in a giant kitchen.
But they're talking about having a barbecuewith family and friends. They decide to
invite Amy and Jim. Bad idea, but they do it anyway, and
she picks up her phone, dials, puts the phone in her ear,
and he says, you should callAmy while she's calling Amy. Now,

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the way I see it, thereare two ways a filmmaker could handle this
scene. The first ways you showEmily calling Amy on the phone, and
you reveal a good deal about thebarbecue, maybe a bit a plot point
of some sort, and then theysay something relevant whatever, hang up fine.
The other option is that you don'tshow any of this phone call because

(26:57):
it is not relevant to the plotat all. What do you think he
did? None of that. Heinstead has Amy pick up the phone,
and Emily says Amy, pauses amoment and then says Hi. Then it
ends like we had to see theintroduction the two characters on the phone.
Well, otherwise how would we knowthat we need proof that she followed through.

(27:18):
We would just see this little gatheringand we'd be like, well,
how do we get here? Filmmakingby breen Man. I wish he had
had another step where they're actually lookingat each other from the windows of their
houses as they talk on the phone, just to drill that point home.
This is their neighbor and friend.Well, it's time for the big queue,
because that's how I say it.I'm cool, dude, it's got
an apostophe in it. And they'vegot some good look of food here.

(27:40):
I'll give him that. I meanon the grill. We've got hot dogs,
chicken wings, corn on the cob, everything you wanted to barbecue.
How about we go ahead and invitethe neurologists to this party we probably got
of nowhere. Why not not eventhe actual doctor but like the other doctor
that was then involved in the inthe case, No, just the chief
neurologists. But we've also got Dylanand Jim Amy, Ali the daughter,

(28:02):
and that's it. That's their bigparty. I'd also like to remind everyone
that at this point, this blondeneurologist woman potentially is at a party at
a man's house whose name she doesnot know, just a patient. She
said, oh, that's interesting forfive minutes, and then he actually discharged
himself without permission, and now she'shanging out with him socially. You know

(28:23):
what that is? All right?I buy that she's there now because,
like, wouldn't you be interested thisguy at major brain damage? Maybe it's
for like a medical journal, youknow, she's like, this guy's incredible,
he's functioning. He's hacking into corporateand government secret systems and he got
hit in the head and he's fine. We need to figure out what's going
on here, O Spencer. Thejournal she has is far from medical,

(28:45):
just says it's a magical day.Well, how would you cure a person
with this shit? We have seenher walk up to the party. Everyone
else has been here. She's thefinal old person showing up. And a
guy's here with her. He lookslike zamfear Master the pan Flute. Emily
greets them both and says, well, doctor at the hospital. And she's
right, it's doctor says it becauseshe's just as surprised to see her there.

(29:10):
But yes, it's Leah. Weknow she's here. She's Neil Breen's
childhood best friend, or rather Dylan'swhatever. Maybe it's his life story,
I don't know. So Neil Breento get over the fact that he and
Lee are twenty ish years apart inage, He's like, I've got to
have her fiance be older and weirderlooking than me. Well, and she
introduces the fiance and that's Tim,another very bland name. The duo then

(29:33):
introduced themselves to everyone else at theparty, except when they get back to
the back of the party, wesee them a little further away. They're
talking to Dylan. They loop theexact same audio we heard the first time
that they were introduced, with Emilysaying the doctor at the hospital. I
presume Emily's just saying this over andover again at the party. I pulled
the audio for this. This isnot entirely necessary. But the first going

(29:56):
to play is when they walk inthe The next slip is ten seconds later.
Okay, first one, the doctorat the hospital. It's nice to
see you. I'd like to meetmy fianceatim all right, now, this
is the second one. Again,this is this is a movie. In
progression. Ten seconds later, thisoccurs the doctor at the hospital, Oh,

(30:22):
I'd like to meet my fiancee toomman Neil. Why it's so unnecessary
And it's a real Miami connection situationhere because the actors didn't say those lines
again no, so they dubbed itover and none of them were speaking.
They're just looking at one another.When the second time happens, this seems

(30:42):
like a good time with you mentioningthat for me to say, there is
all sorts of peripheral clattering and talkingand kind of nature noises. There's just
a handful of people here and you'reoutside. There wouldn't be a lot of
confined noise, but it sounds likea dinner haul or something. I have
to also asked, did you guysthink Neil Breen's pool looks a little gross?

(31:03):
It's a little dirty. It's notthat ready for use. They wouldn't
see, and you know he's beenin it. Those things have to be
dirty, though. I can't imaginekeeping up a pool. That's a lot
of work. No, And he'stoo busy. He's got his book or
his hacking to do. And Emily'sgot the bank in her pills you'd think
he could get out there and swimaround and tongue out those bugs once a
week and clean the pool. Timthe fiance, says he'll go get everybody

(31:26):
a drink so that they can celebrate, and then a glass breaks off screen.
I guess, so Emily excuses herselfto go fix It's probably Jim dropping
shit. Yeah, drunk, fuckup, Except she doesn't go fix it.
Instead, as the scene transitions,we see her just at the grill
moving stuff around. Leah takes thisopportunity. She's standing here alongside just stillan

(31:48):
to pull her cell phone out ofher pocket, and then a familiar notebook
falls out and it happens to landon a page that says it's a magical
day. And I mentioned this atthe very beginning of our last episod so
when we started talking about the movie. But this is a full sized journal
and she pulls it out of whereso we assume these twenty five years since
they've met, Yeah, they werelast together our fifty In little Boy Neilbreene's

(32:12):
case, she just has carried thisgiant notebook around with her everywhere she goes.
Yeah, much like he's carried alike tiny little stone in his pocket
has token of the memory where she'shad to carry a whole fucking book.
Yeah, he got a lot betterof a deal. Then again, it
does logically make sense. She seemsmore sturdy and capable of carrying around a
notebook. She is thicker than heis. Dylan leans down to pick it

(32:34):
up and sees the page, theone that says it's a magical day.
He immediately recognizes it and asks Leah'sis yours? And she says, yeah,
you know, it's just something I'vebeen carrying around for good luck for
the past seventy five brien years.And at this point he should say I
was outside in the wind for toolong and that's why I fell into that
of acid. That's what happened.Because there's no way once she realizes this

(32:57):
is Dylan, that she's not like, what the fuck? Are you all
right? She would like probably cry, It would be a tragedy. Me
wait, I'm sorry this happened.Wait are you Dylan Senior? But Dylan
doesn't say something like oh wow,are you Leah. What he says is,
oh my god, is that you? It's you, isn't it?

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And he says it little playfully likethat, like it's not a huge surprise,
which it should be, like maybehe's sort of new all along,
that sort of thing, like hekind of suspected and now he's like,
that is you, isn't it,Leah. But apparently this works, This
thing does the trick because she realizeshe's the Dylan from her childhood, and
she goes, I sure wish Ihad looked at the name on your chart.

(33:40):
I couldn't see her face because itwas all banged up, And now
when I see her face, youlook just like that little boy. I
kind of wish that they had goneeven further with her being oblivious, and
like they show her walking to thefront of the house and there's a big
name plate that says Dylan, andshe just keeps not understanding. She's still
going but she doesn't, Oh,it's him. So another question I have

(34:01):
just logistically here, we're saying thatthis is either the town that they both
grew up in originally or they've justmoved to the same place accidentally. Yeah,
because that too for them to beliving in the same place between twenty
five and fifty years. So didshe come back to the town that her
dad had to move away from andthe love of her life that she keeps
the notebook the whole time, neverbothered reaching out to him or trying to

(34:22):
find him. I was just curious. Typically you're not moving back to your
hometown when you left that young andyour parents left, Usually you would come
back because your family's there. Hadthey found each other on social friendpages dot
com? Sure that makes it adifferent story, but that doesn't exist here.
I didn't even realize we had thatconnection between our first and third movies
this year. He immediately clutches herhand, and not an acute see like,

(34:44):
hey, we were once friends,right, this is cool way,
but more of a I now ownyour body kind of way. He is
ravenous. His eyes are horny rightaway. That poor fiance who's at this
party with her in this moment,well, then Dylan talks loudly and directly
in to her ear, saying,I can't believe it's really you. I
think about you every day of mylife, and she says I do too,

(35:07):
I think about you every day.They quickly pull apart once they realize
they're getting a little too touchy atthis family barbecue, and Tim the fiance
he's shown back up here. Hehas like a michelin Man shaped glass,
one of those weird plastic party glassesthat won't break if you drop it,
unlike Neil Brien, who would easilybreak if you drop it. And of
course Emily shows back up and Dylanleans over and yells directly into her ear.

(35:30):
I've known her since she was eightyears old, So real creepy ass
things. Tale Cloud. And ifyou happen to not be paying attention or
you were getting snacks at the beginningof the movie, it would be even
creepier because you would not know hewas the boy. Really, yeah,
why have you known her since sinceshe was eight years old? Would be
the question. I'll tell you what. If this was portrayed accurately, there'd
be like a middle aged man runningthrough that field at the beginning with her.

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Hey, the party's going great though, guys. In fact, several
people have hamburger buns with nothing onhim, no burger, no condiments,
no cheese. Yet others on theirplates have like two or three full cobs
of corn. That's all they want. Zamfear's over there. He's holding his
burger bun like he's about to takea bite out of it, as if
it's actually a burger, not justan empty bun. Emily leans over to

(36:15):
take something off of Dylan's plate.You know, cutty couples do this.
Can I have a body of yours, like maybe a piece or like an
or you know what. She takesa whole cob of corn, like the
whole fucking thing. I wish shewould have bit right into it. Then
it's just all normal stuff people choosedo. And the camera keeps shifting between
each character. You hear chatter,but they're all in one place and no

(36:37):
one's talking, and it shifts betweentheir faces smiling, and it has a
very cult like feel to it.Leah sees Emily kind of glaring at her
here while they're all sitting down andchatting, and Leah gives a nasty look
at her, like a disgusted likeew kind of thing. It's very weird,
and then she goes right back toher conversation. But then Emily is

(36:58):
seen, well mostly she's seen becauseactually where the camera is it's looking at
the grill, so you only seethe bottom two thirds of everyone who's in
this scene. She's grilling. Andthen we see Jim in the background where
we hear Jim and we see hislower half making some weird sounds, saying
like very nice climbing in. Emilystarts yelling at him, telling calling him

(37:20):
a creep, gets your hands offme, and she pushes him away,
So I guess Jim is fundling Emily. The camera view, which I guess
is some sort of artistic choice madeby Neil Brain, makes it really weird
and impossible to know what's going on. But Jim, when he's pushed away,
he knocks over a bunch of corn. That's kind of Jim's thing,
knocking over corn. Yeah, knockingover whatever he can and being like,

(37:42):
whoa before he does that? Andwhy is there so much corn at this
thing? Neil Brain, Well,he's in a bird of some sort,
so he loves the corn. I'vegot just about all the corn I need.
Then every single person at the partykind of stands side by side facing
the same one, like it's alast Supper painting, but with these casts

(38:04):
two characters. I wish that wasa painting. I would say, amazing.
I'd buy one hundred copies of that. So then Leah and Tim toast
to everyone it's it's a great endto the party, except right here,
in front of absolutely everyone, Dylanleans in very close to Leah and yells
very nice right in her ear,and she giggles and they hold hands.
What is that right in front ofeveryone? Is he Borat? But that's

(38:27):
that He's not that far from Borat? Actually he really is. Hang on,
I'll be back. I gotta Igotta get a thing. Okay,
say where you are? This isrelevant to anything? I'm sure it's not.
Yea looking at my notes to seewhat this could be. I'm just
out here doing nothing at all.Sure, I'll probably leave or be gone

(38:49):
for a bit. I'm glad you'releatherheading us. That's normal. Okay,
I'm officially leaving now. Okay.Ha, My brother and I were chosen
people by the gods. Hello there, I am Franly. Oh okay,

(39:12):
I am the good twin. Hmmm, I'm not sure if I should believe
that or not. I will takeplace of Van Lee for now. Oh
okay, where did he go?It just looks like your Van League,
except with the white mop sort ofthing as a beard, but you look
is that not true? This ismy beard? Oh? But it's kind
of falling off. Your face.It's like the beard isn't real. Don't
be silly. It's kind of astrange thing. It's almost also he's not

(39:34):
here. It's almost as if youcan't be in the same room at the
same time because you're the same person, but you couldn't be Don't be silly.
It's like a movie I've seen.I can't think of the name of
it. Is it called brand theTortured Crossing. It's like twisted Pear or
something called it multiplicity In a way, once again, we get a time

(39:55):
change when no actual literal time changehas changed. As Dylan is now reading
a piece of paper at his deskwhen he hears some splashing outside at his
pool. It turns out Amy's youngdaughter, Alley, has wandered her way
back into the house, and shekind of stands in the pool in her
bikini before taking her top off andlooking back at Dylan. I'm fran Lee,

(40:16):
right, I'm his brother, andNeil Breen's kind of leering at her
at the window. But I don'tthink we're supposed to actually read into that.
No, he's peaking. He islooking to see who is at his
pool. Okay, that's how you'rereading the scene, correct, Fran,
that's Vran Ran. Okay, Oh, I'm sorry, Hi, silly me.

(40:37):
That is my name, right,God given, God given? Well,
God gave me powers. Oh okay. My brother Fan Lee he didn't
get it, which is not meethim. He's yeah, he's the joke.
Is he's the evil twin. I'mthe good twin. You're the good
one. Did you notice you're havingto hold your beard physically up at this

(40:59):
point? No, this is howI hold my face. Oh is that
just like a nervous tick? Itis? It is mutt. Yes,
Oh okay, that makes a lotof sense to me. I do think
that while you were given magical powers, Van might be better at podcasting.
Do not be silly. His beardstays up. She look bally looks with

(41:21):
her top off. She's thirteen,by the way, looks back through the
window at Dylan and says Dylan seductively, and he puts his hand on his
head to show he's not cool withthis. Well, and this is the
kind of guy that teams. Ihave to leave now teen girls lust.
Oh, Rand's gotten up. Mypowers are needed elsewhere. Well, you

(41:42):
don't usually interrupt the podcast like that, No, maybe he has to use
the restroom or die. I'm notreally certain what's happening to him. I
was a little concerned about how hishis face didn't seem to be holding itself
together. I was too. Iwas beginning to think that perhaps he had
snapped Van, perhaps stuffed him ina meat locker or something like that.

(42:04):
But no, no, Van isback. It seems to be no worse
for the wear. Yeah. Sorry, I had to take a poop.
Okay, so anyway, once againwe had a time change, and there's
no actual time change in the movie. We actually have covered this part of
the movie. Yeah, that's what. Well, we had a guest host
for a little bit there, didmy No, he's the evil one?
Well he did? He tell youI'm the evil one. I'm not evil.
Well, let me describe him toyou. He's a guy who looked

(42:24):
a lot like you, only hehad a fake white beard on the ad.
Do keep pushing up a lot.I mean, I don't know that
you've never met I've never met thatguy. No, okay, well,
but I you have a brother up. He did handle this strange Alicia Silverstone
Carrie Elway's crush style plot that's goingon in this movie. Oh good,

(42:45):
so I can skip ahead. Thenyou don't have to talk about how I
I'm afraid to say Neil Brain eventhinks children should lust after him. Yeah,
it's kind of gross how this yeah, you little girl is thinking he's
hot stuff. And it's almost asif Neil Brains like really confused about how
old she's supposed to be, becausehe whiffs on both accounts. He's like,

(43:05):
I don't know what a girl's thatage, do, dude, book
reports about an elephant or the fuckold man. He has the extremes here
and completely makes Ali into some sortof just the weirdest character I've ever seen.
And also it's very creepy. Thisscene is well, it doesn't help
that she is not an actor.Kind of does make her fit in,
though, But just then we're maybea year later, we're not sure Ali
does go in the house. Sheturns on the faucet to the shower,

(43:29):
adds some bubble bath to it,and Dylan somehow hears the water running over
his violent keyboard clacking, and hesays, hey, Emily, you're home
early. But it is not Emily. It is a literal teenager. Dylan
goes into the bathroom just as Ali'stowel falls to the ground and he goes
boom and shoots his eyeballs out ofhis head at her, but she looks
back gives him bedroom eise. Despitebeing a child and our savior and hero,

(43:52):
he's Neil Breen. He's a goodguy. He doesn't take advantage of
this young girl. Instead, hekind of clamors over to her as quickly
as he can, which is notquickly, and puts the towel back up.
I would think the better approach andthat situation would be to go the
other way from her and to leavethe room, not to cover her.
Yeah. I get that he's tryingto show like, no, I can't

(44:12):
allow this, but I just feellike, don't approach her since she doesn't
have any clothes on. And Imean, I will say this now.
This plot doesn't connect to anything elsethat goes on in the movie before or
after. It doesn't need to behere at all. It's pretty dumb and
there's no good reason for it,because, as I was kind of alluding
to before, it's either Neil Breenwants us to know that even underage teen
girls think he's very hot, orthat Neil Breen thinks it's a real statement

(44:36):
to be like, you know what, I'm such a good guy. I
will not even take advantage of ateen girl, which duh, no one
would. That's not like doesn't belongin prison. Like there's no good thing
he's doing here. There's no goodway to interpret this either way. It's
a bad storyline. It's like unnecessarylook how hot I am? Or unnecessary
white nighting. That's like when Nickelbacksings about how you shouldn't hit people.

(44:59):
I do think it is the latter. This is some sort of weird attempt
for him to make you like thecharacter more. Yeah, like he's not
a guy who would ever do that. He does politely ask her to stop
doing this. She never says no, She just kind of stupidly nods at
him, and then the scene stops. And again, scenes don't end in

(45:19):
faithful findings. They stop, theycrash. All right, with the weird
Lolita plot out of the way,let's go ahead and take a break so
I can dust my beard. Lateron, Emily has arrived home and Dylan
yells at her and says, somehowthis is your fault that Ali came over

(45:43):
and tried to hit on me.It's because apparently Emily said, yeah,
come over and use our pool whenever. Therefore she's doing villainous things. Emily
calls Amy to complain. Amy saysit won't happen again, but no one
actually gets to the root of theproblem. No no, and talks to
Ali No and Neil Breen at onepoint says, don't worry now she has

(46:04):
to call first. What's the problemsolved? She doesn't come over there again?
Is what you do with this?And the true way to solve this
is to get Ali to doctor Davids Lee or doctor a Andre not doctor
She's not a doctor, hey Andra, because she needs psychological help, because
she's a thirteen year old who's attractedthe Neil Breen. Yeah, maybe both,
because David s Lee can give hersome medication and then doctor a Andra

(46:30):
can give her the future. Wellanyway, Ali just throws herself on her
bed, cries a bunch, andthat's it for the young horning girl subplot.
Basically, one tiny thing later,Jim gets home and he is a
total fucking dick to Amy. Thisresults in each of them throwing wine onto
one another's supple round breasts, Heruns back to shine the mirror of his

(46:52):
hot rod again. But Amy's hadenough. She goes into the bedroom,
lifts up her mattress. What doesshe pull out but a loaded handgun.
She cocks it back, opens thegarage door where Jim is mirror shining,
and she points the gun past herample chest and directly at the red sports
car and says, I'm gonna getyou good, Jim. I'm gonna shoot

(47:13):
this damn car full of holes becauseyou love it more than me, which
would have been really funny if shehad done it. Both the idea of
shooting a car that's in your garageI don't know I And however, Neil
Breen would have made that look ohman, that's a good point. The
quote cgi he would do. Yeah, and the bullet sounds. I would
have liked it to have been likea machine gun sound, when it was

(47:34):
clearly just like regular hand Yeah,that'd be great. Well, she pulls
the trigger. She's again pointing atthe car. She shoots at the car,
but Jim launches his ample chest directlyin front of the bullet and takes
it boom. It hits him.Yeah, it's like the car's bodyguard.
Mm hm. He's a real KeavinCostner. This situation. The car's whitney.
He exactly the idea of him divingin front of the car and the

(47:57):
car beeps, I will always loveyou. I mean, someone went out
protecting the thing he loved most.To the guard, I can't respect that
one mirror. The side story isshe's fucking Wyat. Her person and Hignon
are out there, one shot anddead. He crumples the ground. The
bullet casing falls to the ground.Not good news. Meanwhile, Dylan has
arrived at their house for some reason, presumably to yell about Ali, and

(48:20):
he hears the gunshot ring out andbegins to kind of panic, or at
least Neil Breen panic, which isto casually go amy Jim, Yeah,
that's about the volume. You gotit right back in the garage, Ali
has arrived to look out and seewhat's happening, and she angrily says to
her mother, you killed him,And the two kind of slowly turn in
unison and look at Jim's body.It's like when two mimes do that thing

(48:44):
where they're pretending to be mirrors.That's what they do looking at Jim's bloody
corpse. Ali then shifts gears andstarts to scream Dad and tries to rush
to him, to go to him, but Amy grabs her just by the
arms and legs and tries to holdher back. He says, stop,
don't look, even though they've alreadylooked. Don't be a Denny and go

(49:04):
try to bring a corpse back tolife, and Amy says, you didn't
see anything, you know how hewas. She convinces her daughter to call
nine one one and decides the bestcourse of action right now is to put
the gun by Jim and pretend thathe shot himself. When Dylan finally makes
it in the garage, Amy yellsto him he killed himself right away.
He's apparently very convincingly, so Dylantells her to call nine one one.

(49:30):
No one wants to do it themselves. It's always get somebody else. Yeah.
He rushes over to Jim and startsshaking him a lot or the body
of Jim. I guess Jim andnow Dylan are absolutely covered in blood.
Yeah. Neil breens wiping it onhis fucking lips and stuff, just like
he did with his own blood earlier. He literally does wipe it onto his
own face. It's very, verystrange. He's befuddled that his friend could

(49:52):
commit suicide. Jim, Jim,how could you have done this? Damn?
I can't believe you committed suicide.I cannot believe you committed suicide.

(50:15):
How could you have done this?How could you have committed suicide? I
can't help you out of this one, Jim, With all we've been through,
I can't pull you out of thisone. Goodbye, my friend,

(50:37):
Goodbye. There's a little more backstoryto Dylan's character, which is that he's
been a hero to Jim many timesand saved him. I guess a lot
of the past. You can't savehim this time. No, I can't
pull him ont of that that oldtime he's talking. He's manipulating Jim's body
in his arms and wiping the bloodover, getting bloodier as he speaks yes,
and he rocks back and forth.It's uncomfortable to look at it like

(51:00):
it. I did, however,get some Miami connection vibes going when they
kept yelling dude, yeah, Ireally wish this would have happened. Same
movie, guys. Neil Breen cannotget his voice that loud to yell Jeb

(51:22):
that's true. There's a really briefscene here where Amy's on the phone with
Emily and Amy says I drove himto suicide, and Emily responds with what
suicide? That's it? That isall that happens. I guess she didn't
hear anything next door. That wouldbe an interesting way to break the news
that my husband killed himself. Tobegin the conversation with your friend, I

(51:45):
drove him to suicide. And bythe way, your husband is here bathing
in his blood. Well that's that. Yeah, yep, we will not
talk about it any longer. He'sbusy reading his own book again, and
this time he takes a moment toloudly talk about how he doesn't believe Jim
would commit suicide. Then he talksabout being really tired and slowly plants his

(52:07):
arms and head down on his deskand passes out like a toddler who refused
to take a nap. Powering off. This gives us the opportunity for some
more ghost noises and then some weirdnude stuff in the trash bag room.
Back in what I will call thereal world if its real, as a
Breen world could be, Jim's suicidehas hit Emily pretty hard for some reason.

(52:30):
She's back on the pills now.It's terrible. And then Dylan he
gets another phone call from his publisherand he says, I'm not going to
sign with you anymore, though presumably, like we mentioned earlier, he already
had an agreement because he published thefirst book, and they're calling him expecting
something like the first phone call,you'd be like, you don't have any
right to call me. I'm notsigned with you. Hey, we're not

(52:51):
movie and storyline experts. True,I don't know, maybe it's right,
but he does throw a piece ofpaper in annoyance, and then he continues
brating Penguin or whatever this company isit's calling him. Yeah, it probably
is Penguin. Finally, with allof his emotions coming to the forefront,
he has the ultimate reaction and Idon't know you anything. I in fact,
I'm not going to give you thenext book. That's it. Don't

(53:15):
call here anymore. No more damnbooks, no more books. Yeah,
he makes it literal by actually throwingthe books, his own book, and
that scene is one of the trailermoments, right, yeah, yeah,

(53:36):
he clearly decided going back over themovie is like that's kind of going the
trailer. That's gonna be a bigmoment. The audience is gonna be pumping
their fists in the air. They'reall gonna be hard, or they're gonna
be questioning, like, why,why no more books? What's happened?
I gotta see this thing. We'rein the trash bag room again, and
we've got another naked body here totalk about. This one's a woman.
She's all crumpled up with her facedown, and Dylan is standing there.

(53:59):
He's kind of concer well, flutemusic plays, but that's it. Well.
Emily throws some books at Dylan thistime, and she says she can't
take it anymore. So you knowwhat Dylan does. He goes back to
that very very old woman's suite atthe psychotherapist building and talks about his first
love, an old caterpillar. Hey. Andre basically tells him, Hey,
it's cool to go ahead and cheaton Emily. It's no big deal.

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And then we contrast that with Dylansitting with doctor David s Lee offering him
more drugs and accusing Dylan of cheatingon him. He's saying, like,
are you seeing another therapist? Whichis a common thing in therapy when you
really are patients about what they're doingin their personalized with that. But Dylan
denies us vehemently. He's like,no, there is no other psychotherapist on

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the same building David Lee in mylife, and the one I have definitely
isn't saying things like you're the chosenmystical force of the universe. Do anything,
including cheating on your significant other ifyou need to. But then doctor
Lee drops am bomb on his patient. He asks him, how's your research
coming along. Dylan is confounded bythis, and then we see a flashback

(55:08):
to the phone conversation Emily was havingthe one time when she was super fucked
up. Turns out it was todoctor Lee. You know, she asked,
can you give me more pills forhim? And this is what else
she says. He isn't writing anothernovel, He's writing about government secrets.

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Yeah, another Tailor moment that weall loved, probably the one I was
most looking forward to seeing when wegot this movie Government Secret. It's a
great linery. I don't know howEmily is able to be so memorable at
these things, but it just comesout of her that way. Because you
couldn't read these signs like that onpurpose. No, I actually think maybe
she was on some pills when theyfilm this. Now it's how you get

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through a full couple of weeks filminga movie with Breen. Dylan decides to
go out to that river park whereKirk Cameron and his dad learned about the
love dare It totally looks like that? But who should he run into here
at the bluff Park? Then hislong lost friend Slash a parent love interest
Leah twice in a couple of days, and again he acts so casual,

(56:12):
like uh huh after not having seenher for two decades or four. The
two share an intimate moment where theyvery briefly say hi to one another,
and they're like, ooh, that'sit. Let's keep going in our separate
directions. But both stop, that'snot happening. No, no, no,
it's a fake out. Neil Breenknows how to edge and audience.
Basically, we see both characters stop, turn around, rush over to one
another, and then embrace as theywalk along the river bank. Lee reveals

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she broke up with Tim or zamfear Tim, but then when Dylan says,
how I'm sorry, to hear that. She shushes him and puts her
finger on his mouth. I don'tlike that. If anyone did that to
me, I would bite their fingers. I'm surprised he didn't bite it clean
off. Well, I feel likewith him, if you put a finger
in his mouth, you're leaving thatdent in his face wherever your finger just
lasts. He's like Plato, knocka few teeth out doing that. And

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they basically just stand here, maybetwo inches away from each other's face,
very close to one another. Hesays he loves her and always has and
again this is all while having theirheads very close to one another. She
reciprocates the feeling, and the twodecide they should revisit the place where they
originally discovered their love for one another, the weird forest in the desert,

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the magical mushroom slash treasure stone forest. Well, guess what that mushroom,
That magic mushroom's still there. We'sgot a bunch of glitter on it this
time. Yeah, same size andeverything, But just like before, it
magically disappears reveals the same bag withall the bad jewelry in it. They
say things like it's a magical day, a magical time, a place where
dream comes true. It's not foreveryone in this movie, though, right

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now, is it? Well?Neil Breen's wearing a mustard old man shirt,
as that helped the situation free.This one's also three sizes too big
and the top six to seven buttonsnot button. You see his nipples when
he's standing there, which is againverboten in the Neil Breen world. While
all of this stuff is going onbetween Lee and Dylan, we see Emily

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at home, and you hinted,Brian, not all is well with Emily.
She's taking a fistful of pills anddrinking water out of a wine glass,
shaking a whole bunch. Suddenly yourhand falls to the side and the
glass with the water and it spillsover the bed. She's out now,
right? Is she dead? No? No, no, because a second
later she's sitting up oh, holdingthe wine glass. Still. Why aren't

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these scenes just reversed? Why?I mean, he clearly just was either
too lazy to do it or didsomething wrong and was like, yeah,
I don't know, it's inexplicable.Well, she does say I'm sorry,
Tol and then dies, which againkind of hearkens to the room a little
bit and the God forgive me aslurred in a similar manner. So what
do you think Dylan and Leah aredoing in the forest now? Well,

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I think they might be engaged inNeil Brain's signature method of love making,
which involves a lot of shirt tearing. Yeah, just basically kiss a little,
rip each other's shirts for some reason, but not all the way down,
and then kiss a little more.Then show some legs and the sh
it's falling. Yeah, and there'sa childlike quality to the whole thing,
like all the hugging and giggling thatmakes it fucking creepy. Like, I

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know they are adults, but again, since he doesn't seem to know what
it's like to have sex, itcomes across as a kid's idea of it,
and it makes it uncanny and grosswith the lack of the real passion
and the scene like where they wouldactually be getting that carnal satisfaction that's not
there. We know that element ismissing somehow. Yeah, all I'm seeing

(59:28):
is just some needlessly ruined shirts andthese scenes. Because you're gonna tear someone's
clothes off, it better be becausethe release is going to be so good
because you want it so bad thatit ramps the moment up. Sure the
other things, it really better bethat way for them because they're outside and
have to drive back home in public. Yeah, so they put their clothes
back on. At least with Emily, they were at home. Dylan is

(59:50):
now back at home and he rushesinto the bedroom to find it now dead
Emily. So he clutches her justlike he did Jim. He loves to
cradle a corpse. Dylan has nowhad a rough couple of days with this
neighbor and best friend killing himself andnow his wife killing herself, and he
was fucking during it. And thistime he's pushing her dead head around.
He's got his hand on the backof her dead head, and he's saying,

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it was you. I knew itwas you. What that means,
I don't know. I never understoodthat. Yeah, I have no idea
unless he's bringing up the fact thatshe called David s Lee and was the
turncoat that told people what he wasdoing. Interesting thing to level letter dead
body at that point, which wouldmake me think, yeah, surely that
can't be it. You wouldn't likechastise the ears dead wife, Yeah,

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which you were just cheating on,but he might well. The flute music
dials up to eleven, and henow muted Dylan kind of half screams no
a few times before he sits downin his desk, pulls out his motorola
psychic, and then yells into it, Emily is dead? Is he doing
a voicemail so he'll remember he calllike a note for him? So,
or he's telling Leah like, hey, you know how you said Tim like

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you broke up with him? Well, I'm single now too. In the
clear ear, I mean, thisis super convenient that his wife girlfriend just
died overdose. Hey, O,hands are clean sort of. I mean
he already did have sex with herbefore knowing that. The other thing is
maybe he's recording this as a voicemoment, like I said, and he's just
gonna mass send it out to everybodythey now people the news on. He

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lets his head fall to his deskwith his arm out stretched and in his
hand. What do we see butthat black square rock he always has.
It fades away into nothing, whilea montage of what we just saw in
the woods happens again, this timeinterlocked with trash bag room footage of naked
Breen clutching that naked woman who it'sobviously Leah because they're both magical naked trash

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bag room faery types or whatever theyare mystically. Oh, I think that
covers it. There's some more weirdstuff where Dylan talks about working in his
government secrets on the phone, butalso in this case, he's in a
tiny room with the wrinkly old aAnders telling him his soul is clean and
he's perfect. Uh huh. Heloves this. I bet you he had

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more lines initially, but the moviegot too long with people telling him how
great he is. He had tocut thirty percent of them out, probably
eighty and this is still much inBut this takes us to our next scene,
and I do think it's important toset the stage for this one.
Dylan is sitting at the same deskhe always sits out. We've seen him
here a thousand fucking times. Thistime he's wearing a softball shirt with the
sleeves cut off, showing off hissinewy arms let him breathe. But sitting

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in the forefront of the scene isLeah, who can see is just kind
of smiling and looking at him.That's all she's doing here. But what
is he doing that warrants her lookingat him? Why he's eating a plate
of fresh spinach leaves with a fork. There is nothing else on this plate,
not even dressing, no, justspinach leaves. And he gets a
fork full of it, puts itin his mouth and eats it. Neil

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while eats, snailing and smacking.The whole league gives him a like a
warm inviting smile back like yeah,I get a nod and smiles back in
a way that says to me,I have poisoned you, and I'm glad
you're eating that. To me,it's a look that says I have witnessed
several people eat only spinach, andthat is a normal thing to look at.
And on top of all that,there's really no acknowledgment about grief over

(01:03:15):
and Only's death. At this point, Lea has taken Emily's place in the
house and it's now just there.I'm so glad I now have you to
watch me eat my spinach leaves offa dry plate and complain about being busy.
Yeah, it's so loud too.He then throws the plate on top
of a pile of Manila folders.It is not a secure place. The

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camera zooms in on it. Thisis supposed to be his version of comedy,
and it is so out of touchwith humor. We zoom in on
him placing the plate almost intentionally onthe edge of this file holder, this
upright file holder, and then wezoom back to them smiling first and right
then we're prying for Wait, wasthat supposed to be funny? Yeah,

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because it slides a little, itdoesn't settle, and she grins like ha
ha, almost like plates that falloff a place that isn't secure. It's
hilarious. Yeah, this is nothuman. No one has thought this is
funny? And what is it supposedto be a sense of danger? I've
seen this guy fucking spill way worseshit over his laptops five times already.
These are dry spinach leaves. Whocares well. They're both obviously in the

(01:04:20):
throes of love. They love eachother, They having a great time.
They're eating a delicious, nutritious mealspinach or he is, she's not eating.
But he takes a moment to throwyet another wrench in the plot of
this movie. This is a hugetwist guys, all this time, I
haven't been working on my next book. I've hacked into the most secret government

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and corporate secrets, the most secretonly shit, the most secret government in
corporate secret. Well, no,it's supposed to be really asked secret.
Wait did we know this? Youknow? There's like an echo of something
similar in my brain, but Idon't remember. I do like him telling
Leah all this time, which theyjust came back in each other's life,
like a week ago or something,all this time, in the last four

(01:05:09):
days that you've known Melia. Leahis frightened for Dylan because she knows secret
government and corporate secrets are very dangerousthings to have. Someone's gonna know about
it. He says, it's okay, no one knows about this, but
you and tho other dozen people havesaid it to it in this PA.
Well, they probably do know,you're my notes. Neil Breen says,
no one knows. Then he saysothers do know and have found out.

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Then he turns onund says, butyou're right, they know. He then
throws a bunch of books and yellssome nonsense, and we see that it
is true. Some very bad peopledo know. Some things. They're taking
actions to put a stop to it. We see a kid in a black
hoodie with black gloves on hide behinda stucco wall which also has a bush
next to it. And this isa kid, he's maybe the age of

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that neighbor girl. He's very young. He takes the lid off a bottle
of peroxide and puts it on likea rag. And it's supposed to be
chloroform, except you see like thepharmaceutical like recommendations on the back of it,
as if you could go to Walgreensit just buy chloroform. No,
it is very clearly peroxyde. It'sthat bottle, it's that brown bottle.
He's not after Dylan though, thiskid we see it's actually Leah coming around

(01:06:16):
the corner that he's gonna grab.He snatches her up, or I guess,
has a tussle for a few momentsand they kind of like flail at
one another. In her part,she walks dead ass into him. There's
only one way to go on thissideway. Walking. At the end of
it, there's a man in ahoodie and a like he's clearly a robber
or something. Well, he putsthe rag over her mouth and drags her

(01:06:36):
backwards, kicking and screaming. Andthat's why I don't really think it was
chloroform, because she doesn't get unconsciousat all. She screams all the time,
so it really was peroxide. Buthe winds up dropping a card like
a business card or whatever, withinstructions on it stating take her to trailer
number twenty three at four to tenSouth Ambrose Avenue with the initials BL signed

(01:06:59):
below. So this is the shittiestmagical crime syndicate I've ever seen in my
life. That this kid can't fuckingremember where he's going. He just to
have a card on him, anda handwritten card of that. Oh it's
great. It's so lazy. Ican just see Neil Breen it as little
at as little word processor, Like, how do I get it to where
my character knows where Leah is?What if he just had the exact address?

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He doesn't even have to piece anythingtogether. This is the best hacker
in the world. And the wayhe finds out where Leah is is a
business card with the address falls outof a guy's pants. All right,
But Dylan, he's coming around thecorner just now. I'm assuming this is
six hours later. Who knows,well, he's always there when tragedy occurs.
But you know what he's doing.He's leatherheading himself because he's on a

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voicemail describing that he's calling Leah andhe's saying, I'm walking around the corner
up to our front door right now. Yet you are not directly in front
of me. Where are you?But he sees her purse and the instructional
card on the ground, immediately tippingoff that something is a bit of miss
here. He continues narrating that hefound the purse, and he says to

(01:08:04):
her voicemail, Leah, where areyou. He's gonna have a tough time
getting her back. This is probablygonna be a real struggle for him.
He then spends maybe like a fullminute asking the phone where she is before
he actually reads the note he found, and then he declares shakily, I'll
find you, Leah. Don't worry, I'll find you. And then he

(01:08:24):
kind of old man leaps into action. I wish he would have full other
head and threatened to turn the badguys into gumbo or hear me out.
He's still on the phone. Hegoes, I don't know who you are.
I don't know what you want.I don't have any money. But
what I can tell you is Ihave a particular set of skills. And
then he does the whole thing.Oh huh, Neil breenon taken. I'd

(01:08:45):
watch a hundred of us. Hewould get so hurt in that. Oh
immediately, he'd make it through aboutten minutes of the first one, going
to find out. The trailer whereLeah is being held is at the same
storage unit facility that we saw atthe beginning of the movie, and Dylan
is here. He's already made hisway here, and he promptly struts over
to the trailer she's in, whichis being quote guarded by that same kid,

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except he's passed out with a bunchof beer bottles around him. Not
a very good guard. No,no, everything he did was the worst.
And this is their only guy too. They don't have anyone else there.
And they're magical or something, Ithink, or maybe not. Maybe
they just know he is. He'smagical, we know that, but they're
anti magic. After yelling at thekid for a bit, Dylan smashes a

(01:09:27):
beer bottle over his head, andthen he proceeds to ghost his way through
the door. He does the thingthe mysterious pants and shoes do. He
fades away and then reappears inside thetrailer. Glad you mentioned the mysterious pants
and shoes. That confirms that Ithink the bad guys also have a power.
That's true. Yeah, cources ofgood and evil both have powers,
just like the god and the devil. Well, this is a power we

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didn't necessarily know Neil Breen had.No We sure didn't, nor one that
he really needs. He could havegotten in there. It looks like you
just kind of jiggle on the doorknob a little bit, it'll open.
I don't think he needed to smasha beer bottle over that teen's heat either.
It's just a kid trying to getbeer money. Why do we think
that Neil breens superpower is manifested herein this particular moment. Has he level
up? Whether the rock get likedifferent forms, given more abilities or why

(01:10:11):
can he do this now when hewasn't before. Did he always know he
could do it? Maybe he has, Maybe he's been doing it. This
is just her first instance of seeingit. Yeah, and he really is
the ultimate hacker because this is physicallyhacking into a place with your own body
hacking the molecules. Well, wouldthat be really funny if like someone got
caught robbing and jewelry store and thenlike I hacked my way in physit with
my body into the store's mainframe,which is the store itself inside the trailer.

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He frees Leah from her shackles,but does force her to keep her
blindfold on, saying, you can'tsee what's about to happen. But that's
not all. I have to putthe gag back on because you can't mouth
what happens. I'm going to putyou exactly how you were in your traumatized
state. Lea, What on earthhas happened? Or has he said?
Already? That is like she alreadyknows what's up. It's the ghost stuff.

(01:10:58):
I can't see it, you can'tsee him. But she already knows
about the secret government and corporate secretsin the mushroom and the fancy forest.
Yes, she's been around the wholetime. She saw the disappearing mushroom.
I think this is a plot error. Oh, what a failure on his
behalf. Well, he does ghoststhem both through the front door and they
leave. That's it. Problem solved. How does that work for her?

(01:11:18):
Ghost? I just don't I gethe has that ability? Does he make
her do it? He should clankinto the door when he's tryes Leah,
I can't get you out of there. I have the ability to change physical
matter when you touch me. That'swhy my body seems translucent. He brought
a second like aquarium gravel piece andgave it to her, and that's how

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she was able to get through.Oh okay, magic stone shit. Well,
by the way, do you guysremember that whole subplot where Amy's young
daughter Ali was utterly infatuated with NeilBreen's old ass body. Uh, unfortunately
not able to forget. Do youguys remember how Jim didn't commit suicide and
actually Amy shot him. Well guesswhat that comes up? Oh tell you
they wrapped this up. Huh whatabout Emily? Yeah, not so much

(01:12:00):
that one. Oh yeah, seeuh rip. Dylan yells at Ali,
the daughter again here, I don'tknow where they are. This just started
happening. We just see this happening. Yeah, I don't know where we
are either, and says, hey, you can't come into my house anymore.
But she tells him, you know, Jim didn't kill himself. Actually
Amy shot him, and Dylan respondswith a hardy what this is a teenage

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girl who just witnessed one of herparents kill the other. This is neil
brain's reaction. He pushes her outand tells her, you know, go
tell the police, and he doespush her. It's like he's like,
all it's as hard as he canpush her, Like I know what's happened,
but you would show some empathy.I would think. There's some more
ghost noises, and the man whois black pants and shoes appears in Dylan's
house and he kind of rifles throughstuff on his desk, but he is

(01:12:45):
invisible while doing it. Could beJohnny Cash the man in black before he
eventually walks around a bit more andthe weird wispy ghost air stuff makes a
sound effect and flies over the bedwhere Dylan and Leah are now asleep and
nude. By the way, UdeLeah is sleeping the way the other couple
did, face down, boots outsame thing. Finally, an alarm clock
ticks from eleven to fifty nine amto noon and Dylan abruptly sits up out

(01:13:11):
of bed. They're both asleep soI think this is supposed to be PM
two am because the implication is he'ssneaking out of the middle of the night,
right, but again it says amto noon. I also really like
the idea because Neil Brain's actually anold fucking grandma that he's like midnight so
late no one could wake up ifI got out of bed at that time.
Well, he sneaks out of bedtoo, and it takes a couple

(01:13:32):
minutes, thirty five seconds to fourminutes. It's a real creaks out of
bed if you ask me. Hegets in his car and using his cell
phone, he calls his own housephone and leaves a voicemail message for himself,
but actually it's for Leah, andhe explains that he had to get
out of town for a day.I love you, nothing is wrong.
I just I have to do something. I have to be honest when I've

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never really laughed at this part,but when I watched it alone and I
saw Neil Breen holding the phone tohis ear while he listened to his own
voice say the voicemail outgoing message,I was really laughing at that. I
also like how he snuck out socarefully only to call the loud ass landline
and then have his voice play onthe recorder into the house. I didn't
even think of that. That's great, He's like, I'll wake you up

(01:14:15):
now. I could have just toldyou clearly doesn't work though she's still dead
asleep. Maybe you could date herone day if things don't work out with
the Cadie van, since you're alwaysdating people who can't wake up. Apparently,
he spends a good long while drivingthrough the desert before eventually coming across
a very scenic area with mountains inthe background as triumphant music turns to spooky
drum music. I thought the firsttime I watched this, Okay, he's

(01:14:40):
going to do whatever, This bigmission he's been planning the whole movie is
right, not just something random.Yeah, because he sneaks out in the
middle of the night and he makesa big fucking deal about it, and
he's actually paid to bring his camerassomewhere New Well, what does he find
in the desert. It's our oldfriend, the giant golden tome. Well
is it's Buddy the big stool thatsits there too, or the three weird

(01:15:01):
like coltist guys who disappear first,who are they? They're gone almost as
soon as he arrives. Maybe it'sthe Wise Men, Dylan asks them,
or possibly the book because they're gone. I feel like he's looking at the
book when he says that, hesaid should I be afraid? And he
goes, no, should we beafraid? Meaning mankind? Another trailer moment,

(01:15:23):
but then the Gold Book itself fadesinto nothing. So he goes to
check on a Andrew at the psychotherapypark almost instantly, but before he can
open the door to her office,he notices a post it placed on her
sign and it says doctor Andra isno longer here. Did you read the
vine print the little printer? Itsays has returned to immortal realm. I'd
missed that part, but that doesmake sense. You know what I found

(01:15:45):
suspicious is that that handwriting on thatpost and it looks a lot like David
s Lean's. Uh oh, Ithink we have a little sabotage. She's
not actually still works there. Hejust said is she not here anymore?
Because he figured out Dylan has seena different therapist, so he's doing a
little sneaking. I would have beena plot where David s Lee and a
Andra got together. This is areal what's her name's mom? And that

(01:16:08):
eye online twenty thirteen. Yeah,only double the ages, triple him.
David's a little too young for her. Yeah, he's only what eighty three
or four? Yeah? Yeah,and she's what one hundred and fifty?
We do watch your fade into nothingthough? That's cool. Well I think
that had been going on for yearsprior. All right, Well, Dylan's
back in bed, he's asleep withLeah. This is hotel done, his

(01:16:29):
whole day trip over. What didhe do again? What did he do?
He went to sho talk to abook and then see his therapist,
who's not there anymore. I didn'twork though. It didn't seem like he
got much done. It's like youdrive all the way to the post office
and it's closed. Leah didn't seemto ask him about it either, like,
hey, what was that thing whereyou left a message for me in
the middle of the night and thenjust came back like nothing happened. Well,
to all we know, she's justbeen in bed the whole time.

(01:16:50):
Because she's still face down in thebed. Doesn't she have neurology to do?
Way? Don't you, Lea?You haven't really worked for like a
couple of weeks now or did?Do you really have that job? And
I kind of thought doctors worked alot. That's kind of part of it.
It's kind of an important job.He's here now, and I think
he's got his finger down or buttcrack. He might just be placing a

(01:17:10):
hand on her butt, but that'stoo normal. Two different scenes where he's
acting chased. Otherwise, he doesplace his right hand on a butt cheek
of first. I don't know ifthat's in the contract, like I do
get to do that or something.Well, they're butt fingering, eh.
We see the feet in Black Guywander around again and again. Things shake
on the wall again and again.I don't know what's happening. But whatever

(01:17:32):
it is happening in this movie,I never did know what was happening in
any of it. So this isnot that different from me. Maybe this
will clear it up. Suddenly,a bunch of blood drips on the black
feet. Oh yeah, Oh hemight be hurt now symbolism. It probably
came from his head wound. Wow. And this strangely long scene again could
be removed wholesale. Nothing about themovie changes, No, it doesn't introduce

(01:17:56):
or change or nothing occurs at all. I was confused by they brought the
blood back into it. Maybe hehad extra Well. The following morning,
Leah and Dylan wake up and Leahfinds some sort of like graduation cap tassel
on her. Those are the tasselsfrom the end of that fucking book.
Oh okay, yeah, this isthe first time. Yeah, Neil Marine's

(01:18:16):
good. He's so aware of it. Well, She's like, what's this
And he's like, I think wehad a little visitor last night. He
say, friend left for us?What what? What friend was? Me
is just kind of okay, Andthat does kind of double down on the
fact that he thinks double down that'sone of his movies, on the fact
that he is friends with the bookbecause he kind of talks about the book,

(01:18:40):
like had a little pal. Maybehe took the book, but he
ran the desert a chunk off thebook. He like tore an arm off
the book basically and left it onher. That's metal. Yeah, that
is actually pretty cool. Speaking ofthings that aren't at all normal happening,
it's time for the big moment ofthe film. We're finally here. Oh
boy, it's not why you thinkit'll be not even close Dylan. Finally
he publishes his book of his mostsecret government and corporate secrets, and he

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decides to hold a press conference infront of the National Archives Building in Washington,
d C. So Dylan has traveledto Washington, d C. Now,
well, there's no preamble to that, Like there's all this build up
to him going out to the desertpreamble. How fuck oh man, it's
like you took history in school atsome point forefathers. That's two f's also,

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Dylan immediately takes to the mics infront of thousands of journalists, politicians,
bankers, and just playing fans ofI'm sorry. I just saw several
microphones, yeah, and some kindof noise, but I'm not seeing any
people. Okay, oh all right, you're right. There aren't tens of
thousands. There's six. Oh youknow what I mean, you're close.
He tells these five or six peoplewho are all bunched up together, and

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we later learned that those are likenot the people who are there because they're
happy about the announcement. We seenone of those people. We sure hear
them, but he tells everyone I'vebeen hacking in the government and corporate secrets.
Have you heard this before? Yeah, everyone collapsed, they know this.
They're like, great, he says, all over the country. I've
been doing this. No no,no, no, no, no,
no, all over the world,and everyone keeps up plotting and freaking out.

(01:20:13):
But before he's presented any evidence,hints he never will. My second
favorite part about this already is who'sletting him do this? I think he
just did it. He owns allthe microphones. He just set it up
himself. He sure shit didn't dressup for the occasion. This guy who
wrote one book wants to make abig reveal about the government and about businesses.
Let's let him do it. Yeah, he didn't button his shirt for

(01:20:35):
this or anything. He says he'sdiscovered more information than any hacker ever has,
and what he's found will shock everyone of you. He reveals that
he's releasing his files to the publictoday and there will be massive repercussions because
of it. We see those massiverepercussions immediately. However, as the CEO
of some big company joins the pressconference, he's up there by himself.

(01:20:59):
He reveals his company's dirty secrets,and then he shows what he's going to
do about it. Money payoffs andgreed were always the priority of my company.
What, like many companies, I'mafraid of going to prison. They
now know my crimes. What arethey money corporations? Oh oh yeah,

(01:21:29):
so he shot himself at this pressconference, which was just par for the
course. The press conference went onafterwards. Yeah. No, at this
point they have to call dne winone an ambulance comes. Everything's grinding to
a halt, right, there's bloodeverywhere. Well, it just keeps going
as as if nothing's happened. Basically, Oh, because it seems like people
are still clapping. Well they're clapping. We see a slew of various corrupt

(01:21:50):
officials and government and owners and allkinds of stuff. They off themselves,
all because Breen leaked their secret governmentand corporate secrets. Each gives like our
little brief explanation. And they're socontrite. They're like, I shouldn't have
done that. I'm bad. Thepeople deserve better, and I'm gonna I'm
gonna kill myself. And this istreated like the big reveal to like the
banks want to keep your money.Uhh, I've never heard of such a

(01:22:15):
thing. And my other favorite littlething is They keep flashing between whoever's gonna
kill themselves for the crimes and NeilBreen, Yet both are standing in front
of the same building in the sameposition, and Breen is saying nothing new.
He's saying the exact government secrets overand over and smiling now as people
are just executing themselves one by one, which, no matter what the case,

(01:22:36):
this was in the rest of yourlife, not his, not a
lizard person. He was like,this is what I was aiming for.
He's probably just waiting from when hecan step down for the podium and go
cradle all the bodies and wipe theblood in his hair. We in fact
see a senator hang himself. Hedoes that at home, though he doesn't
do it here. We see acongressman runner car in a garage with the

(01:23:00):
so he knows something up with newideas for these suicide Oh yeah, they
all killed him, so she suffocates, of course it's so dark. We
see an insurance executive take a bunchof pills and immediately softly place his head
on a steering wheel and die.That was one where he's like, I
can't think of another one. I'mgoing back to the pills. We see
a Wall Street banker slit his ownwrists in his bathtub, and then we
see my personal favorite, which isa sad banker. Let's play that one.

(01:23:23):
I resigned today as president of thebank. We were all under pressure
to operate in a deceiving way andcheat the customers. Goodbye. Someone should

(01:23:45):
have been like, will you swallowthat food before you say you're lying?
Why do you have so much mustachein your mouth? I especially love how
his title is president of the bank, the bank. Where do you work
at the bank? Yeah, AndI really love the good on these two
Goodbye. They're so casual and they'reso proper, and everyone was like they
were clearly awful. They were doingterrible things and they were covering it up.

(01:24:09):
But then when it got revealed,they were immediately like, yes,
I will confess to everything very calmly, and I will be remorseful, and
then I will kill myself and thenI'll do the least calm thing a person
could do. The entire time,these fat cats are offering themselves. Dylan's
repeating himself Adnawedge Mike, like wesaid, the words he says are greed,
fraud, and secret government and corporatesecrets. I think he says each

(01:24:30):
of those words a dozen times inthe last thirty seconds of this movie.
I also wish that this press conferencehad ended with some reporter being like,
oh, can we see the proof, and he said, go out,
don't have any and they're just corpseseverywhere. They didn't even need to do
it. Well, they didn't needto do it anyway, Thank God,
it's awful. If you saw aphoto of this, you'd puke. At
some point, a deadly sniper hastaking Dylan in his sights, and we

(01:24:54):
see that because we see new Breenstanding at the Archives with a sniper thing
on. It is this that kid? Again? It might be I think
it might be. The sniper holdsthe trigger. But there's a problem.
You know what Dylan has in hishand. Guess what. It's a fucking
rock that he always has in hishand, and he uses magic powers to
redirect the bullet to kill the kid. Now, the reason I know that
that's what that is. The reasonI know that is not because the movie

(01:25:16):
showed me that. It's because Wikipediasaid that's what happened. I wish that
what had happened is Dylan looks shocked, like he thinks he's fucked, you
know, a typical movie trope.And then you hear the shot that it's
actually someone else shooting a sniper,and he turn over and it's Jim giving
him a thumbs lap, but he'slike half disappeared, you know, the
Neil brain effects. So it's likeit's ghost Jim. I mean, ghost

(01:25:39):
Jim couldn't have made this movie worse. I do wish it had been like
an actual person that shot him likeit, and you'd have to pick one
of the characters from the show.It have to be like Ali, Yeah,
actually, what about David s Iwhy don't you take my medication?
I'm even willing to have to,and you'll bring to it the same way,

(01:26:00):
but you have to show me aspecial effect of you redirecting the bullet,
not just the sniper slumping over dead. Dylan finishes up his speech and
he and Leah head back out tothe forest where they hear a dinosaur sound
see that wispy ghost thing, andthen the movie just stops. That's it.
That that's the end of the film. Happily ever after, I mean,
we're thirty seconds from seeing several selfexecutions. But guess what, the

(01:26:27):
corrupt business in corporate people, business, secret men and women are dead,
so the world's a better place.Yeah, and they made it very clear
that their only motives all along werefraud and greed, so it's we're better
off without them. Now. Someother people died too that weren't related to
that. I'm not sure why allthat was going on. I'd say most
people in this movie died. Yeah, well they actually did. Most people

(01:26:49):
we saw died. Would you haveguessed eight people would die in this movie?
No, because again, thirty minutesinto the movie, there is no
reason to believe that this is adeath type movie at all. It's like
a on Lane twenty thirteen had startedracking up the body count for the ends,
which would have been pretty cool.They would have just gone to heaven
though. Well. I watched thecredits blake because I wanted to see I
think two the whole thing. Thatmeans you saw that there were a bunch

(01:27:12):
of businesses listed under things like,for example, the lighting design listed Lighting
in Films LLC as who did thelighting design. For locations, they list
bb Location Management for craft services,they list Eats and Eats Film Inc.
And there are a dozen of thesethings, which is weird business names.
Do you have the literal verbatim explanations? Okay, good? It scrolls down

(01:27:35):
a little bit and it says beingquotes here, read it like he would.
Any of the above listed companies inthe credits with an N or a
B in their name are fictitious.This work was actually done personally by Neil
Breen. Uh So he did itall, but then wrote it in the
credits as someone else, but thenalso said, no, I bet I

(01:27:56):
really did it. I'd like todonate this wing to my alma mater,
this New Life Library and make itfrom anonymous, but write an article thanking
me for it. All right,So let's get a couple things out of
the way here. Number one,is this your favorite Neil Breem movie if
you've seen Yes, yes, yeah, it very clearly the best. It
moves quicker, It is gleefully wackyin a way that some of the others

(01:28:17):
aren't. Some of the others dragit does It's true. Yeah, that
last one we watched with the brotherthing is especially guilty of thatt They're a
little dull, they're a little boring. Sometimes we can't riff on them together.
They're not, I mean, andthat's the case with a lot of
these movies, but those really sufferfor it. Faithful Findings is I think
the only one of his, andwe haven't seen a couple that really stands

(01:28:38):
in that upper echelon. For me, there's a story that I always mentioned
the three of us. I've nevergotten a chance to say it on the
podcast. When we watched that movieabout Cad and Cale, Brian got sick
for three months afterwards. Once forever, I could not stop being sick,
and I think, I mean,it has to be because I watched that
thing. Probably because you didn't havea special beard. I don't have the

(01:28:59):
genes of Neil. You aren't bornwith great family genes, which is actually
what he says. Yeah, mybones are two put together. But yeah,
this is his big work to me. I hope he equals it again.
I do think you said something veryprecient in the first episode, Brian,
is that maybe he needs to reinventhimself. We need to see less
Breen screen and something else, somethingyou can do different, And I think

(01:29:19):
he will because him moving to showsthat do you guys think he has that
m and I'm not so sure.I'm just not that confident in him.
You think maybe he'll just think Istruck gold, I'm gonna keep doing it,
and like his movies are all thatnow. Yeah, I just kind
of feel like he doesn't have thekind of awareness to go off of what
he would consider to be like themodern sort of final stage of I don't

(01:29:42):
know. I don't think that he'sgoing to be able to evaluate himself that
well. He's also so tied upin this weird Messiah complex things and it
kind of especially in our today's age, it reeks a lot of it.
Just something's weird about it about this, like this man has to do everything
by himself and no one can becounted on, and every the person that
ever shows up in the movie islike, except for Neil Breen, is

(01:30:02):
some sort of vagrant addict in hiseyes. He just has a very dismal
view. If you're poor, you'rea pill popper, and if you're rich,
you're corrupt. One of those istrue. He's definitely a my shit
doesn't stink kind of guy. Andit might not, it might not.
I haven't sniffed again. Like wesaid earlier, he may not even shit.
It might be like white No,like dog poop that's been in the

(01:30:25):
sun too. Well yeah, okay, Well let me ask this because we
often find the auteurs, the onesthat make these so bad it's good movies,
who are weird and really Tommy wiseaued Wood, those are the big
ones. Wiz Zou has leaned intoit. He's now embracing the weirdness.
Breen, for the most part,still presents his movies as this is my

(01:30:46):
art. He says, I'm doinggood things here. These are not bad
movies. Do you think he's inon it at all? No? What
degree does you think there is?Okay, so you guys think he's just
alwhere. I believe he's in onit to a bit, simply because I
watched a bit of this thing thatI found, which was a six and
a half hour video. It's abouthow he makes his movies, and he

(01:31:09):
talks early on in it about creatingthis concept of Neil Breen, and so
he knows a little bit. Nowwhat that degree is I think is open
to question. I don't think hedoes the greens green stuff and thinks this
is stupid. They'll eat this stuff. No, I think he's still doing
it and saying this is the bestI can do. They'll see through the

(01:31:32):
little bit of corniness it is tosee my true genius. They note that
I have a big message underneath itall. And like I think, if
you knew it wasn't Neil Breen andyou heard like a serious director say something
similar, like if you heard QuentinTarantino say like, well, you know,
he would probably explain it or whatever. But like in my movies,
obviously I'm not going to go aroundmowing down a hundred people and making up

(01:31:57):
revised fictions of history or whatever myself. But these are my movies. When
you think Quentin Tarantino, this iswhat you think, and maybe he kind
of means it that way. Likethe Neil Breen world, you know,
has a certain cachet. Now I'mkind of looking at him as an arrogant
guy in this way, and thatmaybe part of him has to believe I'm
selling some of these movies because peoplelike them genuinely. Yeah, And he

(01:32:18):
is a little narcissistic and arrogance,so there is something to that. Overall,
though, I think Neil Breen isa good thing for society because he's
putting out these things, and theyare good. The new movies still are
fun to watch. They're a littleless exciting than, for example, Fleateful
Findings, but they're still worth it. And I do hope he continues making
movies until he gets true death,because he's clearly died, but it hasn't

(01:32:42):
taken. This brings up another question. Is it possible for one of these
odd tours to hit more than onceon a true classic like the Bad Movie.
Canon Maybe doesn't support that, becauseyeah, it doesn't seem like you
can such a specific esthetic can onlyshock in the perfect way once. Maybe
I don't not agree with that,and that's why I just don't know how
self aware he could be about it, because once you have that element,
even a small part of it,it would show in your efforts. And

(01:33:05):
he still has that kind of cluelesselement in his films. That shows that
he doesn't seem to be in thejoke in any form, because once you
have that, like we talked about, your results, your film results aren't
going to hit in the same wayor anywhere close. That's fair, and
I think this. I'll also say, of our three movies this year,
this is the one that ranks highestfor me in my all time when I

(01:33:27):
think of like, what are theworst bad movie or not even like most
just enjoyable to watch are bizarre badmovies I've ever seen. Faithful Findings is
very up there, because I can'tstress enough. If you haven't seen it,
you should watch it at least oncebecause it is so all over the
map, even worse than what wedescribed, and to look at it and
hear it is just something. AndI do agree with you overall. But

(01:33:49):
I will say this, and it'skind of an interesting concept. I will
watch Miami Connection. I agree withthis far more often than I will watch
Faithful Findings, because this is ahard watch, takes a lot out of
the This is a lot like Ilistened to a lot of music I can't
come back to regularly in that casebecause it's challenging and abrasive. In this
case, it's just abrasive. Well, it's gonna do it for a coverage

(01:34:10):
of Faithful Findings and our experience fortwenty twenty four. As motion picture men,
we gotta leave the movie theater.Let's go back into the living room
where the TV is. That's right, maybe we'll get some other fake beards
and our brothers will come and beboot too. Boys. Who knows.
But guess what that means. We'regoing back to TV and we're going back
to Brian Vaughan the next couple ofweeks. So take away, Brian.
What are we doing. We're doinga normal run here of just picking our

(01:34:33):
own shows. I just feel likethis is Cohen Home. I don't know,
y it feels good about it.I do too. It feels warm,
feels nice. Well, you knowwhat. There are a couple of
nineteen seventies television shows that, forwhatever the reason, really stuck with me
as a child, and I watchedthe shit out of them. One of
them was the Mary Tyler Moore Show, which we have already covered. It

(01:34:53):
was great, It was a lotof fun. The other one Elephant that
crush a guy there was Chuckles.The other one is Taxi, which the
show we will be covering, whichbegan in the late nineteen seventies into the
early nineteen eighties. It's about acab company, a lovable group of misfits
who work at the cab company,but every single one of them fucking wants
more out of life, man,and they're stuck in that garage to get

(01:35:15):
no wonder I liked this anyway?Is it a comedy? It's just like
a happy comedy that gets serious sometimes. And it was like Mary Tyler Moore,
very much like that, and similarlywas considered ahead of its time.
I know it's beloved, yeah,for more in terms of as a comedy
and a show than in its politicsor anything. It didn't necessarily take a
lot of the leaps, but itfocused a lot on some interpersonal storylines and

(01:35:39):
things like that. I chose thetwo episodes I did because I remembered them,
and they're both really highly right rated. They are from the same season,
season two, kind of in thecreative peak of the show. The
first one is Christopher Lloyd's first episodeon the show. Love Christopher Lloyd.
I'm excited to see him, yeah, Season two, episode three, Reverend
Jim a Space Odyssey. The guysrun into Reverend Jim and try to get

(01:36:00):
him a job, but first theyhave to convince Louie to hire him and
help him pass the exam. Louiebeing Danny DeVito. Season two, episode
eight, The Great Race, Alexand Louie engage in a friendly competition to
see who can take in the mostmoney. If Louie wins, he gets
a date with a Lane. Whoa, Jerry's not gonna like it. Yeah.
So those are our two episodes.I did watch them. I really

(01:36:24):
enjoyed them, and I watched acouple more, and I'll probably watch a
couple more. There's a genuine pathosto the show that I don't think was
super present in a lot of showsof the era. You see it a
lot more often now, or yousee it aimed for a lot more.
That'd be interesting. I don't knowabout Taxi Spencer, not a bit.
Yeah, I just know of itand it's cultural impact, but never seen

(01:36:44):
it. It's a very sad show. Tony dances in it too. Oh
wow? Is he named Tony judhirsh Oh? I like jud hirsh Yeah.
It was big blockhead a lot mefun. Come back and stay tuned
for that, I guess. Butthat's it for today's episode. Before we
leave, check us out on Patreondot com buto ink. It's all free
bonus stuff on there'or on YouTubebegin botoo Inc. We've got all the
shows up there, as well asmusic videos, bonus videos, et cetera.

(01:37:09):
If you're on Apple Podcasts, giveus a rate and review or whatever
platform you listen to the show,and we'll get a tattoo of a bunch
of blood and maybe some feet,maybe some corporate secret and government secrets.
But we'll get that tattoo if youleave us a five star rate and review.
But you have to act now,as Neil Breden says, bootoo ink
dot com. That's our website.There's some stuff on there as well,

(01:37:31):
and you can join our discord aswell as shoot us emails at booto ink
at gmail dot com. What's yourfavorite line in the movie. I mean,
honestly, you have to say it. It will always been. I've
been writing about secret government and corporatesecrets. It's such a clunky ass line.
Today I found myself very much soenjoying it's it's an exchange between Ali

(01:37:53):
and Dylan where they've already had thefight about the pool, but we don't
know where they are, and she'sstill trying to seduce some guess because she's
like, I thought you liked itwhen I came over and he goes,
I don't, man, I alsoreally do like that lion when he says
you've become to relying on pain pillsfor pain relief. I'll go with the
old heavy hitter and go government secret. Yeah, you can't lose there.

(01:38:21):
It's a magical day, it's amedical day. Stable, leave me alone.

(01:38:43):
I don't want to stay. Ihave a damn master's degree in commuter
science. Stay, and I turnedout to be over right of normals Bee
that Stable. All that's coming toan end. Now I've gotten in a

(01:39:11):
deeper, much more profound direction,this time deeper in the first book.
No, it's not a moment.It's research. Research to will make a
strong, significant difference. I'm goingto shock the world. I have to
us about all the information about youmean, they have no idea. I've

(01:39:39):
discovered more information than any hammer everhas. Sucret government chor secret. He's
been right. Sucret government a chordsecret, he's been right. Secret Governments

(01:40:01):
at Cormoran Secret, he's been right. The secret government at corporate secret,
he's been right. I have notbeen writing another novel. I have been
hacking into governments and corporate international secretsall over the world. And I'm going

(01:40:29):
to expose at the middle all andno one knows how I'm doing it.
These documents hereing and change the worldNo one knows but you now. But
I think you're writing. Others havefound out what I am doing. I
can't wait any longer. I'm waymiss Secret Government in Koran Secret. He's

(01:40:54):
been right Secret Governments and Cormoran forSecret. He's been write Seacrat Government and
Cormoran Secret. He's been writing SecretGovernment at Cormorant Seacraft. He's been writing

(01:41:19):
No Man, no books, NoMan books

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