Ep 167 | Airwolf: "Tracks"

It's a Boob Tube Boys episode something like 6 months in the making as the guys finally return to finish off the 80s supershow that is Airwolf! 

Van tells Brian and Spencer all about this Airwolf episode where our heroes hike up a rugged mountain with several of their wheelchair bound friends when a mysterious and dirty mountain hobo named "The Cat Man" appears and does exactly what you would think: he murders everyone

What's that? Why yes this show is about a multi-billion dollar helicopter dogfighting with other powerful weaponry. Why do you ask?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi, everybody, it's me Doctor Van Lee and guess what.
We're back. Finally, after a long hiatus, we have returned,
and most importantly, we have returned as a video podcast.
That's right. You can go on YouTube right now and
listen to this exact episode and look at us and
look at our faces. More important than that, you could

(00:27):
see clips from the show and jokes and gags and
all kinds of fun stuff. So if you're interested, go
check us out on YouTube, where the video version of
the podcast will be hosted. You know what, though, if
you don't like video versions of podcast, that's fine too,
because I'll still be editing this as an audio podcast
as well, and you're here listening to exactly that. So

(00:49):
if that's what you want to hear, stick around and enjoy. Hello,
they're friends, it's me. It's family, and I'm a fellow

(01:10):
with a guitar and a story to tell. And that story,
that's my theory of a bunch of no, I'm doing
it now. A bunch of guys don't have use of
their legs and they're in a mountain because it's what
they do. And you would think that's enough of a
hardship for several men who don't have use of their
legs to endure, but then they're attacked by catman. I'm joined,

(01:32):
of course, by my two partners in this journey. I'm
not alone. We've got Spencer Hendricks. Spencer, Yeah, if I
ever lost my legs, Have you been brushing up on
your kayaking skills?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Sorry? No, I didn't, Well, there are any kayaking in
in our extended absence.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
If you lose, you're going to wind up having to
be the capable man for a nice mountain trip.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I think I'm qualified to be the capable one on
a mountain trip, especially based on what we know about it.
We're not experienced with with mountains and doing extended trips
into the wilderness. But from what I can gather, it
isn't a good idea. From everything we've learned in this episode,
I don't think we should do this.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Nothing about this winds up to be a good idea.
Brian Vaughn over here, we've heard Spencer Hendrick's show off
his pipes. Have you been practicing your ability to sing
moonshadow by use of Islam?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
No, it was in your email, but I forgot to. Uh,
that's okay. I would say, Van, you're the most likely
to survive in a mountain a residence situation, I think
because you're not entirely helpless with practical matters, urage.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Direction to go to get down from the mountain.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes, but you're gonna need to give me back the
guitar with a story to tell thing though before I give.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You the Well, I can't dooth at once. Yeah sure.
Now in that case, if I'm most capable in the mountain,
does that mean that actually I would be the one
who because a murderous and killing I think.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's also very obvious that of the three of us,
he would be the most likely to murder.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, we would all. We would all want the best
for the cats, just like the cat But wait, yeah,
we wouldn't be going to his links to proture them.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
As we get into this, we'll explain more about what
we're saying with the cat man because you will need
it explain to you because it doesn't make a whole
lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
He's not a catman hybrid. I'll just be clear about that.
Don't expect that that's too cool.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Just a weird man. That's that's really what he is.
If you boil it down. But here's my comparison for Catman.
Catman is like that organization PETA, People for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals. They're spy.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
That's like a flat Mediterranean flatbread.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Not that not with an eye. This is an e
those people.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
How Lois says, her husband's name and family Guy paid.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Ass because we love family Guy.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Here.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Those guys mean well in short, like they want animals
to better, but they go about doing things in a
dumb way. Yeah allah the cat Man who maybe takes
things a little too far.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
It's kind of like, so none of us are on
Twitter any longer, not calling anything other than that, don't care.
Not that we spend a whole lot of time on there,
but we all have Blue Sky accounts. And you see
a version of this on there sometimes where people are
overly vigilant about things that truly don't matter, or bring
their cause into something that has nothing to do with it.
When someone's trying to have God forbid a casual conversation

(04:30):
or just say something funny, Well.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I meanwhile too. Yeah, the intentions there and the ethics
are there, but sometimes the social aspect of its lacking.
It might be some people that mean well, but don't
really know how to be a human in terms of
how they be ended.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I shouldn't feel like I'm in the top fifty percent
of normal social communicators in any given environment, and there
I do.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Nope, No, Well, last time we talked Airwolf, because we're
doing that again. We it was like six months ago
something like that. A couple members have moved of the
move too, boys, So we will be doing things remotely.
As you can see our visit is here. I will
be attempting to release this as a visual podcast as
well on YouTube, so look out for that. You'll be

(05:13):
able to see the shouts, not just hear them. It
will be amazing. So yeah, keep an eye out for it.
But we will still be available as a audio only
medium on whatever platform you listen on, Spotify or pot
what is it like pocket whole or something or other.
Brian uses pocket casts pocket I got it right, Yeah,
it's great pocket casts forever, unless they're evil, unless they're

(05:37):
owned by like polepot. Well, the pullpot gets brought up
on our show more than any other podcast. I think
maybe Behind the Bastards does that every now and then,
but then it's us. We're number two on that list
all right last, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Also Polepod Polepot's podcast, which would be the.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Worst thing to listen to, better than Rogan. But regardless,
last time out, when we talked air Wolf, it was
more the empire taking and fighting the rebels, like it
was a helicopter versus helicopter technology. We're going a little
return of the Jedi this time because we're going more primitive.
No longer will we have an attack helicopter for the

(06:19):
entirety of the show that only comes out when necessary
to kill one man who uses a bone arrow. But
we're going in the wilderness. That's how this is going
to last. Handicapped people are in this I mentioned that
we will try to be good with our verbiage as
well as storytelling here, but this show is made in
the eighties and it says some really awful weights, and

(06:40):
I guess we were too. We've learned Airwolf hasn't, surprisingly,
so we'll try to be good about that. As far
as bonus cast for this episode, as opposed to last
time on, Airwolf, were mostly dealing with a bunch of
unknown actors. Like all the guys who were handicapped in
the show, we're actually handicapped in real life, but they're
not actors, and I think that's pretty parent as you

(07:00):
watch this, but they it sure looks like a bunch
of guys struggling up a mountain, and they do look
like that, so I guess they nailed that part of
the episode. But there is a guy here, as we mentioned,
called the cat Man, and he's played by a man
with a long Hollywood career named Timothy Agoglia Carey. Carrie
worked with Stanley Kubrick in films The Killing and Paths

(07:23):
of Glory, and he was also in East of Eden
and played someone named South Dakota Slim in the sixties
beach movie Beach Blanke at Bingo.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
So he's had a career, Yeah, a career, but one
as an actor that seems rather type cast by that name.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, according to someone you know, and people type things
like factoids on IMDb, it's from who knows, so it
may not even be legitimate. He there's one on there
that says like he is known for playing almost exclusively
weird characters. So I buy it based somewhat we see here.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, I don't think, to be fair like, I think
that was wise of him, because I don't think he
would fit in as like a rom com leading man
or you know, an action hero Mad.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
About You featuring Timothy Agoglia carry as the catman. All right,
so let's get into it. This is Airwolf season three,
episode twenty one. Tracks. Now, does tracks have anything to
do with this episode? Because I don't think it does.
Maybe the Catman tracking them, but I still don't like it.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, I think that's his main skill set other than
love of cats, is that he can track things.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, And it's implied, well, it's stated that prior to this,
to this act in life where he's a catman who
murders hikers or hunters, that he was a professor police officer.
He's gone rogue. So Professor gone rogue and the wild
just went nuts snapped and started killing people and protecting cats.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
This is one of the paths that a professor can
take when they depart their chosen profession that is probably
less healthy than like like Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones departed
and he became an adventurer type who stuck Nazis.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
This is this is one that I think everyone would
agree as an extreme path for a professor, but one
that does happen, that could happen.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
You're usually tenure, I think instead of this every.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Now and then they do. They do it to a professor.
Is possible that they might end up in the wilderness
killing people. It's possible. It's something that we know does happen,
but we hope it doesn't. Int Man's case, the worst
that's come to pass.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Was his professor Dame that like, no, it's doctor cat Man.
I have my doctorate in like, uh whatever, it would be, like, yeah, physiology.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
I just like the idea of you know, my doctorate
is in cats. It's in me teach cats or kill
people in a mountain. It's one of the two things.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
My minor was murder. My major was cats.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
The show opens with a montage of what's to come,
which will skip as we always do because we're going
to talk about it anyway, and then the episode proper
begins is the word tracks comes across the screen and
we watch a dirty lanky man walking across a dirty
lanky bridge, and he swats at the ground with his
filthy hat and he presses his hand to the ground
for looking at it, and I think sniffing, and I

(10:17):
think he gives it a little whiff, but he's tracking,
so I guess this is tracks. That is correct. There
are two hunters that he's tracking. They're hiding in the bushes,
and I guess they're using like a duck call, but
instead of it makes bobcat noises. Uh, probably duck commander cat.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I bet I bet they did. Yeah, helped pay for
that one girl's prom dress. I remember some things about
covering duck dynasty.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And maybe a new coffee machine for the office so
Slim can get back to work or whatever those fat
people would be. These two guys are evidently hunting mountain cats.
I guess pumas and bobcats of the like. And the
weird noise call thing were works perfectly because we see
like archival nature footage of a bobcat going to have

(11:06):
a drink at a stream, but with the crosshairs of
like a like a game hunter over the front of it,
and the gun hunter shoots gives a big old grin,
so presumably he kills the cat. And I just have
to ask, was this a thing do people hunt cats
jungle cats for?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
If so, I never heard of it, And also would
a cat be stupid? And I feel like you're not
going to trick a cat like I would noise, Yeah,
I would approve of it turns out that before the
catman can get to them, the cats do because cat.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I agree, and I think that would be you know,
more vindicating to see on screen too, Like a bunch
of cats in a little circle plotting.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, like you know, you see it from the crosshairs,
and then the camera pans around and the cats are
right behind the hunters the whole time, like the ambushed.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
But here's the problem. If the hunters do the thing
with their gun like Snipe are sometimes doing, turn on
the laser pointer, that's gonna get the cats all riled up.
They're gonna chase it and get shot. So it's never any.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Bad you made that. It started to be kind of
wholesome there. I was picturing all those cats running around
after a laser and I really like that image. Yeah.
Maybe maybe he's there and that's his way. I always
want to play with wildcats, that's all.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I'm here to do it, but I'll do this instead.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I know it looks bad. I could have brought a
normal laser pointer.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Maybe this gun didn't need to be loaded. But here
we are. When in Rome, well, the mysterious dirty man,
who was, of course catman as we brought up. He
approaches the hunters, not birdman this time we we this
is our second crazy man found in the forest. I
guess who.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Believes he's part animal, part animal, But he's not bird.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
He's cat. He's the enemy of the bird as we
all know from Celestian tweety cartoons. He yells at these hunters,
just a bunch of shit, and he says, like you
killed a velus and he grabs the hunters and he
flings it to the ground. And that just pisses this
guy off.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Because felis catus is the Latin name for cat.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, how's it going?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Killed?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Felis? What flis dentsis bobcat?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Shut him? The hell you doing it?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
You can't do that to a man's gun.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
You can die?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
What choice made mind?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Let me make the decision, Tom.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Maybe we should just clear that there were two whats
in there that were absolutely perfect, just because they really
exemplified someone being confused as hell as what's happening?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
What also, I think, are we worried that you can't
do that to my gun? Is going to be on
the American flag soon.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's already on there. But now with the snake that
says like, don't step up on me.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Because I exactly don't put your toesies on me.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
The hunters decide, Okay, it's probably best that we leave.
This man threatened to well, I guess kind of threaten
to kill us, and he's dirty, and I'm sure he
smells like cat pis. Yes, he smells like cat piss.
So yeah, they leave. The Catman continues to watch them
as they walk off and yells you you van Ward
in his weird catman voice, and that's that, And no

(14:26):
time to pay attention to that, because we've instaid got
a wad of cheering people here, and that wad includes
Ernest porknine, who's a wad himself, I might add, and
Catlin Shaughnessy she's here too, and this swath of humans
that it works. And by the way, it's spelled Caitlyn,
but it's pronounced Catlan ninety percent of the time in
the show, but sometimes they say Caitlyn, So I don't

(14:48):
think they.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Really fucking Game of Thrones or something.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Is Jamie still messes with with me from that because
it's High May and the books and yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, but not Hyamma Garcia. He was ever present in
Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Not this time, maybe in the remake he'll be in it.
We see the swath of humans. They're cheering on stringfellow Hawk,
our hero of course of Airwolf, and there's a real
melty faced man that looks like Holmes from Homes and
Yo Yo, and they're Kirk, by the way, is his name,
and they are competing in a kayak race. I suppose

(15:23):
people are yelling for one of them to win versus
the other. But Kirk does win, barely, and everyone gives
Hawk a bunch of shit for losing. And that's when
Kurt's wife brings over his wheelchair and we first find
out that this guy, you know, he doesn't have the
use of his legs. Beg Reveale, I didn't know that
was happening going into this episode the first time I
watched it. I'm aware of it now, but it kind

(15:45):
of took me by surprise that that was going to
be the story of an air Wolf episode.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
It was a really big twist.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Turns out everyone was placing bets on who would win
this race, and when Kirk questions his wife about it,
his wife says, in no way. I'm not betting on
stringfellow hawk, I'm betting on you. I know what butters
my bread, And it is a little scary to listen to.
To be honest, I threaten next time they race, I'm
going to steal your wheelchair so I can work out more.

(16:15):
Which is quite a thing to threaten to your friend
you've engauged in a friendly race.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
I do.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I do want to ask, like you can kind of
understand where the wife's coming from. Right, she just watched
her husband win a kayak grace, so she's a little
a little turned.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
On, right, Oh, yeah, she knows what butter's a bread.
Of course.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I mean I would feel the same way if I
were what's his name, Kirk. If I were Kirk's wife
and he was doing that impressive kayaking feet, yeah, i'd
probably be excited to I.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Think it's well documented that winning a kayak race makes
everybody horny.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
That's just one of the givens of being a human.
We all know what happens. Yeah, Well, it.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Turns out river rafting you know that too, Is that
the same?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, there's whitewater, the aqua park that we have in Brandson, Missouri,
near I was there.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
All the time. As a small child, there's.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
There as adults. There's the Wadepool, which you can say
that and it just you just go for a while
and I think it's a circle. And then yeah, the
Lazy River, it is great.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
And then there's one that's like a it's a wall
and it pushes waves at you and there's thousands of
people in it, so you're just getting like people water
being splashed all over you.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's just I would like to be in one of
those with not that many people, because by yourself kind
of an ocean simulator.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, but not not a good people simulator. Wait what
that doesn't even make any sense.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
No, it doesn't need to.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
This is a podcast about a man killing people on
a mountain. Well, it turns out Hawk and Kirk agreed
to a contest and if Hawk lost, he had to
be the I guess safety man, the able bodied man
on this trek that they're about to take and Kirk
threatening Hawks and you can't back out. You lost and

(18:01):
Hawks and here it's no big deal. Kirk and his
wife explained that they run the organization POINT, which stands
for Paraplegics on Independent Nature trails. So I guess this
is just all they do. They go out into nature
and help people who can't typically move all that well
into nature. So it's an admirable group. I'll give him.
That doesn't go well for him this time. Let's get

(18:23):
that out, you know, I mean, and.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm gonna give this to them. This is not a
scenario they could have predicted. There are plenty they could have.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
This is this is not one no, like you do
like tornado tests or you know, Bobcat tests or whatever.
You don't do crazy cat Man hunts his time humbleweed tests.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
It does sure beg the question that since the law enforcement,
as we know, is aware of this, why there have
not been any efforts to stop it prior to you know,
all of this group going into the wilderness and the
cops like, oh yeah, cat Man, We've just kind of
been letting him hang out there for a while.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I think it's like it's like the mob know, like
the cops are like, this is too big, too big
for us.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I think it's more like like the origin story of
the Cobald or whatever it was. It's a creature that
every every year the town has to sacrifice a young child, oh,
one of those things. But yeah, it means that their
town will always be prosperous and safe from everything else.
It's one kid.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
It's why Nicholas Cage had to be burned alive by
those bees or whatever, right, so they get the harvest. Well.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
It's also the concept too of maybe everyone's like and
you know, yes, he's murdering some people, but the cats
are safer with him out there, so we like that.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's true. They're danger species in some places, so it
could help. There's also one other facet to this, and
that is that Hawk or not Hawk, that Ernest Borgnin
and Catlan are going to be in charge of picking
the hikers up once they make it to the summit,
so at the end of their trek, they'll fly their
helicopter up and fly him back down. So everyone from
the Airwolf crew is involved here, and they also up

(20:00):
for a beer. And it is worth pointing out that
this whole time Hawk is strutting along and he's got
his package, let's say out for pretty much everyone to see,
because his jeans are the tightest jeans I think I've
ever seen any human wear. And I'll say it, he's
got a hog he's letting that boy hang. It's more
like a stringfellow cock. It's really hard not to stare

(20:25):
at it too. Org nine in the shot, and like
you want to stare at borg nine, but then there's
this hog.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Well, it's confusing because you see that and then you
see borgnine. Here's like, is that a big old man's ballsack?
And you're like, no, that's just a big old man.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Who is a ball sack. But meanwhile, the Catman he's
busy spending some quality time with his kiddies. He's at home,
which is just like a tint, and there's like a
bobcat chewing on some shit and like a cougar somewhere
around here, and he's eating like beef jerky and telling
him how much he loves him, and it was kind
of adorable to see, Like this made me love the Catman.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, he hasn't yet crossed the line of like, oh,
we've that, we've seen that, we've seen.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, he's he's definitely been cross that.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Line thousands of times. He's actually America's most prolific serial killer.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well, he also yet he has a like a chalk
or a charcoal painting in the back of a cat.
So you know he's an artist too. He didn't go
like buy that at Peer one Imports.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
He made and it all paints a deep character picture
here and imagined backstory. This is a professor with an
artistic bent who protects wildlife. That sounds that sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, yeah, sounds pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Maybe he took that extreme route that some professors take
where he also murders people.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, and it's I looked it up. It's only like
twenty percent. It's really it's really.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, so it's not it happens quite a bit, but
it's it's all around.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
But you know, you're not locked into that because we
all know. Once Carl Sagan graduated with a PhD. He
killed a lot of people. Got over it, you know,
forefront astrophysicists of course.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, you can bounce back.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Have killed the billions and bill people love Carl Sadian jokes.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Those that you've put in the ground though they can't
bounce back.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
It is the next day when Kirk and his wife
are busy getting the paperwork completed for the mountain excursion,
and they start chatting with a man named Levitt. He's
basically the geek of the group today he's the nerd,
and Kirk jokes about the waivers. Levitt is apparently forced
to sign saying that all the guys get to divvy
up your stuff after you die because a catman hunts
you down. He doesn't say that last part, but it

(22:37):
is very prudent and it's like a footnote. There's an
asterisk beside what he says. Then if you go down
to the bottom of the page, that's there. Kirk or
Levitt laughs and he says, well, you just have to
fight my wife for that, And so she says to
him in front of all these people, I just don't
know why you have to do things like this to
prove yourself. He's like kind of embarrassed, and he's basically

(22:59):
just like, you know, uh, this has been hard is
obviously his journey after becoming paralyzed has been difficult. So
this is a way for him to break through and
prove himself.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, and how can you say no to that really
as a loving spouse, right, you know, he's bearing his
soul there, explaining that life has been different and he
needs to kind of come across confidence and validation in
other ways, like a mountain Catman.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
He also seems a little bit poudy at that part,
though I don't know it's because the guy is not
that capable of an actor, but his arc is probably
is probably the funniest to me in this whole thing.
Like later when he gets his when he gets his
moment to redeem himself. I just I love how's he
comes back a changed man from this thing.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
The reason I called him a geek ear to make
sure I put that little bit that more soul.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Therefore, Oh, he has his moment where he's like, oh,
here's here's what I'm here for.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I guess what we're saying between this guy and Catman
is that Airwolf is a tapestry of rich character stories
and histories.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Nothing that happens very well foreshadowed all the way from
the beginning of the episode. You should be able to
see it coming. If you miss it, it's on you.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Catlin, bordnine and Hawk arrived via helicopter that this, of
course the next day, and they approach Kirk, only for
Hawk to be given more shit. This time. It's about
packing too much stuff for an overnight trip. It's not
like we're gonna get a shot at or anything. But again,
our group surveys the guys, everybody that's going on the track,
and Ernest Borgnine sees one guy being a real fucking

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hot shot. He's wheeling around, he's kicking up stuff. He's
like awesome, and Bordnine's like, it looks like that guy
won't have any trouble getting to the top of that mountain.
Look at me, I'm jolly and my bellies here. And
Kirk says, oh, well, that's rudy. He was a professional
car thief before a high speed police pursuit took away
his ability to walk.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I what is with how these shows say things like
professional car thief, because that's not I don't think you
can get accreditation.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
No, you're right. I guess if you're good at it,
people wouldn't know you're a professional because you're not going
to advertise your car thief. This happened.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Then what was that show? I think it was Magnum
p I or Night Writer as well, the professional jewel
thief comment.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
That's right, yeah, night Writer.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
H When do you know you can go pro at crime?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I feel like, you know, like I might be good
at I don't know, ping pong. But then when like
you're good at ping pong. You're like, I bet I
can go pro.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's like anytime I've ever thought I was good at
ping pong at all, I play my brother and then
I'm like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, that's what people are really good at it do hawk.
He points to a different guy and he goes, Hey,
that blond guy over there is awful familiar. And then
we see the blonde guy who's juggling for some reason.
I don't know why you would juggle in the mountain,
but here he is. And the hunky dude, as it
turns out, was actually an Olympic pole vaulter before a

(25:57):
hint of that accident caused him to be parallel and
his name is Ben Fouran. But the actor, as I
was able to find out, is named Jim knob k
in aub and he legit was an Olympic pole vaulter
before a car hit him while he's riding his motorcycle
and paralyzed him. So nob then took up wheelchair racing

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and he was like the star of the sport. He
won the Boston Marathon five times, the LA Marathon five
three times, and at one point held every world record
from the five k to the marathon level in like
wheelchair Olympics. So this dude was like legit and he
was a badass in real life and didn't here he
is an airwolf juggling.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Okay, that's good casting though to have him in a
physically demanding role like juggling. This episode is also part hike,
part like Talent Show. A lot of the people auditor
showing off their skill here and there, like different.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Still one as a niche Sure, yeah, it's like when
you watch it, I wish there was.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
A Talent show scene in this. I wish there was
a whole scene with the stage.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I think it's like Ocean's eleven or whatever. You have
a heist movie and you got to show each of
your heist guys like his legs McGee, he's the guy
who knows computers. And then over he is the guy
who knows defensive techniques.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
You know, there's the guy that, Yeah, this guy knows
how to open a safe real good.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Like Hamlin rule, you know us use his device and
melts it away.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh well, that would solve a lot of problems if
that existed.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Borg nine leans in real close to Kirk and he
says wait a minute. Isn't that Maurice over there? He
was an old golfing partner, and boy, he could hit
a ball further and I like to walk, which is
not very far. It's Ernest Borgnine.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Come on, yeah, I get the implication here, I get
the joke, but you probably should use an actor, that is,
anyone but Ernest Bordnin or Wilfred Brimley or something like that,
because there's no way, like almost anyone could hit a
ball further than those guys would want to walk.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I think you take any of the handicap guys you
send as an example, and it's a better choice than Ernest.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
More guy.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, Kirk says to borg nine, Well, you should have
seen a swing before a landmine blew off his legs
and gnawm. And as Airwolf has made the eighties, you
gotta talk about nom somebody's gonna be an Overea.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Every eighties show we've covered talks about Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Catlin pushes the narrative along and asks Kirk who the
cop is? Over there? We see a guy. He's in
his wheelchair, of course, wearing an LAPD cap. He's loading
a gun for his mountain excursion. It's like a pistol.
It's not like a a hunting rifle or anything. His
girlfriend sits next to him holding a guitar, which you
better believe makes an appearance at some point on this episode.

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And technically, if you think about it, of those two items,
one of them is made for dealing death and the
other's made for given life out with music. But in
the Kabong both are deadly.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I also feel like you could say one is made
for maybe this is just my usage. One one is
made for dealing death. The other one is dealing with
death fair enough, That's what I use my guitar for,
you know what.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Or Jeff Jarrett either El Cabong or Jeff jarreted one
of those two guys. It's deadly either item.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
That's a good point, but also only one of those
two guys. Will you be called slap nuts after being
struck by the guitar?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, alkamong of course, Yeah, he always said that anyway.
Kirk explains that the cop is Charlie Callahan. He lost
his legs after a shootout with some bank bandits, so rough, drawer,
Charlie about rough.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
None of these are like normal circumstances or like born
or that way.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's all extreme stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I do wish that one of them would have been like,
I think he just got kind of virus or something.
You know, they they don't really know. When that guy
we're like, I've.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Got a gloss over him, like, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
We sort of looked down on him because it wasn't
an heroic thing.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Those pools the rest of us. Evidently, Charlie Callahan is
claiming his gun, his pistol he's loading up is for snakes,
because he says something like there's some sidewinders up there
you got to watch out for. I don't know that
has anyone used a gun on a snake before?

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Like I had this exact question, is that a normal
way to kill and eat a snake?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Now?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm aware a lot of people have tried, because a
lot of people love their guns in America, But I
don't know that that's like a good defense.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is it necessary? Do you do you need to do?

Speaker 4 (30:24):
You are?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
What are you going to do? Like tell the snake
one more one more step, one more step, and I'll fire.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
One more sidewind toward me and when we're done here, buddy.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I know The narrative among like you know, the well
educated animal people, is that snakes are really not very dangerous,
and you know, obviously you don't want to you don't
want to provoke a poisonous one or something, or end
up on a plane with a bunch of them that
happened spray on them or whatever.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
But otherwise pop out of the toilet.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Otherwise it seems like you don't really need to worry
about defending yourself from a snake. So I don't know,
I really make it a question.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
The whole cast walk and wheel over to a spot
in the road and face the camera, you know, like
they're posing for the last supper, all facing the same way,
and Kirk introduces Hawk as their safety man, as well
as Catlin and ORNs Borgnine as the pilots they'll pick
him up. Maurice makes fun of borg Nine's golfing ability,
as he should, I'm sure it's terrible, and Ben Faran
says to Catlin, I hope she's our safety lady, and

(31:25):
everyone gets a good laugh in there's nothing like demeaning
women just the second they walk on screen.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Even more common than mentioning Vietnam and eighty shows.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
As demeaning women. Some sappy music plays and all the
wheelchair guys hold hands and shout things like how are
we gonna do it the tough way? And it's all
very clunky because again, none of these guys are actual actors,
and I'm sure they didn't get a real script that
just said like, cheer and be merry before you leave.
And with that the guys are off. Although Levitt is
apprehensive the nerd, of course he does sigh and he's

(31:57):
a way too, so you know he's struggling with this
track even before it begins. And we get our first
of many sappy music montages that happened throughout this episode,
and it basically mounts to Hawk just wandering alone and
he watches as the guys in the chairs push past
like branches and rocks and they struggle up the tough
terrain of the mountain. At one point, ben Fran falls

(32:18):
out of his chair just like blasts like right out
of it.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Well because he was hot, he was hot.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Dogging a little, so Rudy comes over him he's gonna
help him up, but instead of helping him up, ben
yanks him down to the ground all playful like, and
they tumble, you know, and they're all smile. They're good
old boys. This is a trick that everyone's having a
good time on.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
It should also be noted that I'm gonna check my
notes here. This montage is seventeen minutes long, and seriously,
I watching it again, I was like, uh, how is this?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Like?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
They must have added this later realizing they were short
on time.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
It is so long, it's insane. And as the men
chug along, the soundtrack turns a bit more ominous, and
Kirk Hawk as they walk past this camp site, He's like,
is that a poacher or is that a hunter or
something or other? And the hawks is I don't think
it'd be a poacher because they wouldn't hang their kill out.
But it happens to be the two guys we saw

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earlier whom the Catman confronted. But the best part of
all of this is as all the handicapped guys kind
of wheel by and Hawk walks by, the camera focuses
in on the first hunter and he just kind of
watches all of this dumbfounded. Yeah that's the face you're
gonna make if you saw this in a while, right,

(33:37):
I mean, good for them, I'm pro this, but this
is not the first site you expect to see you
all on the mountain.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
No, it's more just being briefly surprised at what's going on,
and that's really about it, which you would be because
you probably wouldn't expect to see anyone out there, let
alone a giant group of people trying to sort of
reclaim their control over life in a way.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Hawk continues to lead the group and he sees a
particularly rough about of terrain and he says, hey, guys,
watch out for this one. And so Maurice says, a man,
no sweat and launches himself like twelve feet forward out
of his chair immediately just like tumbles to the ground.
And Kirk is like, well, what are you doing? Man?
You could have hurt yourself. He's like, I'm okay, no

(34:21):
big deal. And so Hawk says, all right, I think
it's a good time for a break. Who wants a beer?

Speaker 4 (34:27):
What?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'm no beer drinker, so maybe it's just me, But
who wants a beer while doing like physical, hard hot
labor on a mountain.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I would probably do it, I'm saying it's wise. If
a stringfellow Hawk handed me one, he especially, I'd be like, well, shit.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I also have spent here.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Are you doing this?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
He's probably not. He's suggesting it because he's bored. He's
just going, He's just walking up a hill. And for
them this is like the time of their life, and
this is fucking boring. Let's get drunk.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I'm glad an alcoholic.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
True, I'm glad the show didn't undermine him entire Stringfellow
entirely though, and have him just turn heel right now
and be like, well, it's just boring for me. I'm
too good at walking.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Let's just leave.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
It is funny, though, that he didn't like he had
to do this. He had to lose a bet, so
it's like, I hate this. It's kind of mean for
him to be like, fine, I'll go in your stupid
trip and be your safety man.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Wouldn't he have just done this for his friend anyway?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
You think he would just have wanted to be there instead,
like I lost the bat final come with you guys.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well I'll give him credit because this whole time, like
I thought there might be some why can't you guys
do this? Or maybe he's a little critical of him.
He isn't like he is very passionate towards their experience,
but the episode still does this thing where he has
to learn his lesson, so he loses the use of
his legs later, and it none of that worked in

(35:53):
a sense of like an V show working for me,
because he was too nice about it already.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
So very weird.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, so one of those things, like I think they
should have had him have some other thing happen where
he understands the the challenges that come with with any
sort of physical limitation or perceived one, but not the exact,
you know, scenario that all of the campers, hikers, whatever
you want to call him have.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
And it's also not the same thing for him because
it's just going to be like a month or two
or something. You know, he'll be fine after that. So
he's really learning anything from just falling and he himself.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I think they should have had a coconut fall in
his head and he loses his memory and at the
end another coconut falls on his head. He's like, oh, I'm.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Back, yep, Barry Fred Flintstone like that a really bold
direction Airwolf could have taken too, is maybe this fall
does make him paralyzed from the waist down, the rest show.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
He comes even more of an alcoholic and it's like
it's bitter and sad and angry all at the same time. Man,
this is good. We could fix Airwolf guys. And then
comes the lead of the show again, this is all
a positive. We are making great strides in air Wolf society.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Ernest bordnine and Stringfellow get married.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
So they're both gay pro gay marriage in the eighties.
There's a lot going on here. You can make it
about the AIDS crisis, Yeah, and throw them some more
non stuff. Well, the rest of the guys stop and
drink their hot beer. They don't realize that up above
them is actually a flute noise, and that flute noise
playing is to signify the catman. He's checking. Well before

(37:46):
the catman could do anything significant here, a gunshot rings
out from across the mountain, and it's clear that those
hunters that we keep saying, they're still on the mountain
and they're going after more cats. Both the catman and
the group of high bikers perk up. They look off
from the distance as the gunshots ring out, and a
catman bolts off towards the sound. After more hiking and

(38:07):
setting up their camps for the night. We're back at
the hunter's camp, and this is where we see the
one who was blowing the cat call thing. He's drinking
coffee by himself around the fire and he's kind of
startled as the other hunter flings what is the fakest
looking cat carcass I've ever seen?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Come? That's the first cat.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
I've seen since son up.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, well, I say it's time with Claire.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
You know you've been.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Spooked ever since we ran into that cat tracker.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Has he been around lately? No flag and feeling.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Besides a bunch of crips can rolling through your hunting camp.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
And wheelchairs and these damn mountains are too crowded for me.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
He's clear. We just heard essentially slur there.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I briefly seriously thought he meant gang members.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I pause it that in fact, he saw a bunch
of gang members going through the forest after you know,
the handicapped people had left left. And that's what he
means by using that slur because and he knows this
because they had the blue flag hanging from their left side. Yeah,
that's the cryp side, So remember that. That's how you
can identify blue flag left side the guy.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Who the anxious one, the one that wants to just
constantly like, I don't know, we shouldn't mess with the catman,
the guy that says what twice earlier. He's my favorite character.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
He's great, he's wonderful, he's kind of nice, like, you know,
he doesn't really want to be here. He doesn't really
doing this, but he got roped into this. He's too dumb.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
He was convinced of this by the beard guy, who's
like the evil one.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
He feels bad and he's like, this Catman's gonna get us.
Let's get out of here, because I'm really goofy.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I guess he was so jumpy when that stuffed animal
got thrown at him.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Unfortunately, this is about the last you're going to see
of this guy, because he goes home, of course, and
lives up. No, the gun hunter says, I know, you're
way too spooked right now. The Catman, he may have
been had kitty litter for brains, but he's not crazy
enough to do anything about it. He's not going to
act on what he's saying. He's doing, he says, after all,

(40:36):
but then as he says it, you see like a whack.
As an arrow just hits him square in the chest,
kills him instantly. One shot, boom done. This guy's out.
So the second like the nicer guy, the goofier guy,
he stands up and tries to run away and right
between the shoulder blades he gets hit with an arrow.

(40:57):
He's dead too. Catman killed them with no effort with.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
His He's like legalist or something.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
He really is. This gus Elvin Archer is really good
and he looks dirty, so you wouldn't expect that out
of this guy.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Do you think like he already had that skiller he
honed it once he did take that step from professor
to killer.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
I think it's that. I think that when he was
a professor, he didn't go outdoors and do this stuff.
But then his research of cats led him outdoors. He
fell in love with him and he had to adapt
or die, and that became I'm going to be an
expert marksman with a bow and arrow, and he's the
best in the world. Should have been an Olympics.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
I'm going to take the other, the other tact here,
which is I believe he's one of those professors who,
like you know, he wasn't married, he didn't have children
or anything. And he's a curious guy, but maybe he
doesn't have a passion outside of his life's work. So
he takes up a lot of expensive hobbies. So like
archery was one of them, and that one stuck a
little bit. Like he did other stuff too. He did

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like he did like rock climbing classes, he did like paintball.
He got into paintball for a while. He got into
like model trains.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Sure, sure, that makes sense. I think he did a
lot of CrossFit for a little while and got shape exactly,
and then thus he's able to run through the forest
so easily, and his Elven heritage helps him.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
And CrossFit is when you're in good shape, but good
with a crossbow, right, correct.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
That's you have to use a crossbow while exercising. So
it's tricky to do and people get hurt all the time,
not from you know, I hurt my knee. Oh I
stretched you hard for being shot with a crossbow. Believe
it or not, it's a real problem. The camera pans
over to Catman. He's got his dirty, filthy face and
bright white, shiny teeth and he kind of snarls. It's

(42:50):
like a grin snarl.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
I do question how he keeps his teeth like that
out there?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah? What do you have to brush with weeds?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
What do you like?

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Naturalists brush?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I don't know his. Their diets are probably pretty good.
You don't. You don't true, no sugar, you just yeah, okay,
you just like nature. Nature takes care of it. It's
nature is naturally our our toothpaste.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Nature is Colgate. Yeah, sense there you go, okay with
tartar control.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I actually think Colgate should use that one in there
in their ads Nature.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Bunch of ads with streams and mountains and wheelchair races.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
And just be like, this is us, this is Colgate
us here.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Don't explain it.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
No, that just that's it, no more. But hey, guess what,
it's time to bust out that old guitar and have
a grand old time around the campfire. That's what you
do when you go camping. Basically, I'm going to I
was singing for you, moon Shadow, moon Shadow. Okay, no,
do that four thousand times and you will have this

(43:52):
episode of Airwolf. They got the rights for moon Shadow
from use offh Ism and said we're gonna get our
money's worth out of this.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Why did they choose this song?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Well, I think it's because of the if I ever
lose my legs, I will Oh, okay, yeah, it kind
of fits dumb question a little on the nose. Yeah,
but that's on the legs. Two on the nose. It's
two on the legs. But they sure use it. And
it's not just them playing Moonshadow like the soundtrack. It's

(44:22):
the guys here sitting around the campfire singing moon Shadow
in air Wolf. In the Universe of Airwolf. Eventually Rudy
takes a shot at singing, and of course they continue
talking about the losing my legs. It's if I ever
lose my legs, I won't have to walk no more,
is the actual lyric, and Hawk grumbles, you know, I
wasn't played like this. Sounds like a blues song to me.

(44:46):
So Charlie passes the guitar belong to Hawk, and everyone says, yeah, Hawk,
play us some blues and this is what we get.
Sounds like the blues.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
Yeah, if I have lost my legs, I wouldn't lost Molley,
I wouldn't have to walk no movie.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Hear that.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
That's the blues man, that's what we all real Muddy
waters up there by that tree.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
So Lost My Legs Blues played by stringfellow Hawk, who,
as we know because in the intro sequence shows him
playing a cello like on a pier. We know he's
musically talented because he's good at everything.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
He's a worldly man.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Being a violent drunk. Apparently. Hawk says, Hey, Charlie, you
know I just played the Lost My Legs Blues, which
was that one small fragment of Moonshadow by usef Islam.
How about you play Moonshadow by usaf is He passes
his guitar backing. Charlie plays it again.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
And this is worse than the montage earlier. It's just
it's just so much filler.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
As the Moonshadow rings in the background, everything takes an
ominous turn and we get a pan flute. It echoes
across the woods and we catch the Catman once again.
This time he's tracking the handicap guys, which you think
would be a little easier to do because you can
see like the wheelmarks and the gravel and the grass
or whatever. So I don't I don't give him credit
for these tracks.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Not know, this is kind of like, uh, I have
to think Catman was like, oh, Okay, this is I
got it. I gotta break here.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
This is a softball. Somebody lobbed me. I can hit
this one out of the part. The next day, the
guys are all packing up and they're ready to move
on to finish their trip. It's going to be the
final trek to the top of the mountain. But Levitt

(46:57):
he's having second thoughts. He's saying, guess what, I'm just
gonna wait for the helicopter. Helicopter rides are cheap. You
can make an extra stop here and come pick me up,
and I can't make it the rest of the way.
Everyone's kind of like, Okay, that's cool, you can do that,
but you're gonna regret it. You're gonna regret not finishing
this task you set out to do. And Hawk even

(47:19):
kinda like he's not bad about it, but he kind
of thumbs his nose at him a little like, well,
you suck. I guess if you can't finish this, But
he says, okay, you can wait here, no big deal.
But guess what. Levin goes anyway, No, because he's tough.
You convince me, you convince me. I'm a nerd, but
I'm tough back at the base camp, Catlin is busy

(47:40):
making a massive breakfast, presumably all just for Ernest Borgnite,
he gets all of it. Levitt's wife, Linda, she's here.
She nervously tells Catlin she's worried about her husband. The
Catlan says, don't worry about it. If there was trouble,
they would radioed in, Like if a Catman, for example,
we're hunting them to kill them, that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I wish Catlin was already aware of Catman somehow, like, oh,
don't worry. If Catman had got him, we would we
would know. We would have said something was like, who's Catman?

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Calyn, did you want to tell us about Catman before
this trip?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Linda basically just kind of hymns and haws and says
something super depressing to Catlin. Who will remind you is
a stranger, Like they don't know each other at this point.
She's just like, ever since he heard himself, our relationship
hasn't been the same. Random stranger more.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Sense if we saw them also drinking a bunch of
beer and then they get looser.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
That's true. But Catln puts her head down. She just
keeps making Borg nine food.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I was just thinking. Catlin's kind of like, oh, well,
like you know, if you don't mind, I'm kind of
busy with making breakfast right now. The conversations a little
bit awkward.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
But thankfully to break up the awkwardness, Hawk radios in.
We mentioned the radio asking for someone. So Catlin yells
to their like trailer, their camper, which is right, you're
next to him, and says, hey, Ernest borgnine, do you
think you can get that for me? We get a
lot and I mean a lot of weary Ernest borgnine noises.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Base Camp.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Copy, Tom, Can you get that? Tom?

Speaker 6 (49:19):
Are you up?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Can you get the radio?

Speaker 4 (49:24):
How you get it?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
That's a school with your breakfast.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
You're gonna catch a cold, Pete. Are you there?

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Base Camp go ahead.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
So, as it turns out, Hawk isn't hurt. They're fine.
He's just radioing in to check it. And this is
the beginning of the final day. He's saying, hey, I
just wanted to see if everything's okay. We are on
schedule here, it's not a problem. And Ernest borg nine
heaves and wheezes and just all of this because of
the simple task of waking up in the morning, which

(50:15):
by the way I get it, Ernie answer everything I do. Yeah,
that adds an extra element to how difficult this is.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
That's Ernest borgetting up long John's with a poncho over it.
And I mean, I think it is evident why the
poncho was there.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Was it because of this for the show?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Show?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
But real quickly, you're ninety one years old.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
You look fantastic. He looked like your late sixties. What's
the secret? I don't tell you. I know you don't know, Okay, I.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Think, yeah, yeah, that's what he was just doing, cranking it.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
All right, ladies and gentlemen. We're dealing with some technical difficulties.
So Brian is now a mysterious empty black box. He
has no camera. Oh well, no, I don't know what's
sing with my internet.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
So I'm taking every precaution so that we can talk
more about what Ernest borgnine does to his penis.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Which is tug on it, as we've just you know,
basically pointed out for two straight episodes. Now, tugging it
good for him. By the way, we were pro Ernest
borgnine ripping it last episode. I'm assuming we still are.
I am, yeah, you're not vehemently against it. Now you
didn't come to your senses and go, no, I don't.

(51:46):
I don't care for that all for good.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
It's one of the things that divides our nation. To
Ernest Borgnine's masturbation habits.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Some people are great questions, but they're cowards.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
They are cowards. Fuck them, and I mean that, that's real.
Fuck those guys. Fuck those people who don't think. Urtist
organ shuld be jerking off his penis whatever he wants,
which is frequently just not in front of anyone, and
we're good exactly like, don't don't there, you go, that's
the one. Don't don't do that because you might then

(52:18):
never face any repercussions from it, right, But act like
you did sort of, but pretend and be like, oh
I was canceled, even though I'm still kidding.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Really what it is, It's like, oh, I was found out,
and now that bothers me, Well, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Then.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Well, the guys continue on their way, the handicapped folks
and stringfellow Hawk, they're they're going up the mountain. But
unfortunately for them, cat man he's hot on their trails. Tails,
He's hot on their tails.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Thank you, good job.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
He comes across the camp site, and we see that
he has his trusty bow and arrow. He's ready to shoot.
But that won't be a problem for our trekkers, right,
I mean, it's not like they're hunting cats or anything.
So why what would they have to fear about the
cat Man? I would he hunt them? They haven't anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
It is a little bit of a strange thing when we, again,
we have such a well developed character in the Catman,
to see that he, I guess, just indiscriminately murders also.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
And they don't. They kind of give you like a
halfway explanation for it at some point, but mostly it's
just kind of like, oh, I guess he's just randomly murderous.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I think it's a bloodlust thing, like the band aid
had started to peel off, and now he's rippwear and
to kill. He got those first kills of those two hunters,
so he's ready to kill everyone. Or conversely, you know,
like people shouldn't have outdoor house cats anymore for the
most part, because they kill birds and other animals and
they're bad for the local ecosystem, like really bad for it.

(53:43):
So you should keep your cats inside or on a
leash or in a you know, confined area whatever. In
this case, Catman's being like a cat and just murdering
because it's instinct. Right, he's a.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Cat, right, Okay, Yeah, he's using there, and he plays
with him a little bit with his little binoculars. That's
sort of the playing.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, yeah, batting around with a lot.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Of binocular scenes and shows we cover.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
For some reason, it's commonly comes up.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
It's also just now occurring to me that this is
our second Professor serial Killer episode because of James James
Wall and Renegade, and.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
They're both kind of lithe and creepy looking in that regard,
both Academy Award nominated actors.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah, this really does support our theory that it's not
a terribly uncommon outcome for a professor to become a
murderer at some.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Point start murdering, sure percent of the time. Eventually, Kirk
asks Hawk if he would go ahead, because again these
words belong to Kirk, not famly a man who is
in real life handicapped. He says, if we gimps are
going to make it to the top, it's important we
do on our own, you know what I mean. And
this I believe is like a case of people who

(54:52):
are If you're both black, you can use the hard R.
It's okay for you to do it because you're you.
People have dealt with this time of adversity. That's what's
going on here. They're allowed to use that word in
real life. Stop it. Quit using those words. The armory
do that is coming back for some reason. Quit it.
That is a slur when you use it the way
you're using it. Stop doing that. That's exactly William William

(55:14):
Regal shows up on screen. Whatever I'm watching, it is
a slur. It's a problem, and I'm sick of it.
But he's a man's man, him and his brass nuts.
No way, no way, he cuts down that tree. He'd
have a tough time with the I don't think he'd
have a tough time with the cat man. I think
he'd put him in a strong guy, take him down.
Whatever the case is here, Hawk agrees, and he says,

(55:35):
I'll meet you at the top, and then we get
another montage. This is our fifth montage of the episodes.
A bunch of guys in wheelchairs struggling up a hill.
Moonshadow is playing in case you weren't awareing and We've
got three or four more of these montages coming as well,
featuring Moonshadow. In between takes, we get Charlie Callahan crawling.
He's dragging his chair behind him because he's encountered a

(55:57):
particularly tough bit of land or whatever it may be.
We also see footage of the Catman, so the whole
time they're getting past it, Catman's tracking their wheelchairs. He's
getting closer and closer. And then for a bit Hawk
makes kissy faces at the camera. I don't know why,
but he does it, and I guess it's Airwolf saying
this is our star. Look at him make kissy faces

(56:19):
as he's blitzed off his mind. After they run out
of Moonshadow. Because there's only so much Moonshadow song you
can play, we get some inspirational eighties music, so they
just play like generic stuff. Finally, after struggling mightily, every
single one of the men that set out at the
beginning of this trek they make it over the worst part.
They celebrate, They cheer, they congratulate each other. Ben Farancis

(56:41):
levitt Man, you were one go getting g word, So
you know they're happy. They're having a tile gargoyle. Uh gohmer,
that's the only other g work I can think of,
you know, like blend pile giraffe. You're one go get
in giraffe fella because it's long neck and ability to
eat leaves off of the taller.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
From higher up than anything else. Yeah, it really gives
it a more of a food supply, helps it survive.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Did you guys know that that a giraffe's tongue can
be as much as two feet long?

Speaker 3 (57:14):
I didn't, but I think we have found our new
bat mosquito fact.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
No, he hesitated too much. He made up.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I couldn't actually remember. It's something long, but I don't
know if it's two feet It was a little long tongue.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Let's find out. So how long can a giraffe's tongue be.
Let's see here, Draft's tongue is remarkably long, measuring between
eighteen and twenty inches, so you.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Are almost two feet So you know what, go job
liar tongue? How liar giraffe tongue could be as much
as we're going to say, twenty four inches? I'd like
to I'd like to know tongue. What the actual record
setting tongue is for a giraffe.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
You guys know that the world's longest living land animal
is a tortouse that is one hundred and ninety two
years old right now.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
For him, sounds he was alive during like the Civil
War era or whatever. Yeah, he thought crazy, thank God
for the Union. Which side? Okay, good good, good turtle,
good job. If it were an alligator that was alive
that long and he had an accent, you know, he'd
be fighting for the other side, which is oh.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yeah, really just because it's more mayhem. I mean, he's
too dumb to understand the issues, right.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, he doesn't get the slavery aspect of it. No,
he just he fights for fun, funsies. And he also
likes to box with his big gator hands and his
chandeliers hat or whatever it is. Having gotten past the
hardest part of the trip, there's a little bit left
to go though. They have to get to the summit,
but it's going to be easy sailing from here on out,
and that's where the helicopter is going to pick them up.

(58:41):
But Charlie Callahan, the cop he says, guys, we're really
gonna make it. We all made it this far. This
is an insanely difficult task we've set out to do,
and every single one of us is going to make
it to the top. And Rudy says, well, did you
doubt us? Did you have doubts that you could make it?
Charlie being a cop, you know, he's supposed to be
this big, tough guy. Everyone's supposed to think he's sure

(59:05):
of himself, and he puts on that face show that
he is, but in reality, he had major doubts and
you know what, he was so scared he wasn't going
to make it to the top on that last climb.
He couldn't even spit. Rudy says, you know, sarage coming
from you, that means a lot. I think it's real
impressive that you could open up like that and share
your emotions. And again, these guys have had hardships that

(59:28):
I Van Lee will never or have never experienced. I
can't even begin to guess the stuff that they've gone through.
I couldn't climb them ountain now, to be honest, and
both of my legs functionally kind of work. And this
is just a heartfelt moment in a show that not
long ago featured a helicopter battling different helicopter right by

(59:49):
wings hausers. So this is just a different kind of
moment than what a different kind of really serious, heartfelt episode.
All the men are on the brink of tears because
they've true accomplished something special. Charlie Callahan stands there, he's
kind of propped himself up. He's making his speech, and suddenly,
out of nowhere, an arrow, much like earlier, comes flying

(01:00:11):
and just flank buries itself right into Charlie's chest and
he falls to the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Dead right then, just like the other arrow victims.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
All hell breaks loose. Everybody's freaking out. They fall to
the ground. They use their chairs this cover, and Hawk
quickly grabs Charlie's gun, which remember he loaded at the
beginning of the episode to shoot snakes with, and he
fires it wildly into the direction of the Catman, or
so he thinks, but Catman's already reloading his bow. He's
gonna annihilate a few more handicapped guys here. A Hawk misses,

(01:00:40):
but it does scare the Catman and taking cover. So
the man all yell and yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
You're really frightened by sudden loud noises.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
That is true. So it did kind of work, but
you know, the toughest of the cats won't hide forever,
like they'll still hunt you. Everyone just kind of freaks
out and starts saying why why would anyone be shooting
of us? What does this make sense for? And Hawk says,
you gotta get down, We got to keep moving, we
got to go back. He's saying all these things like

(01:01:08):
we gotta hurry, and they're saying, look, we don't move
the same way you do. We can't do that. We
may have to sit here and barricade things around and
shoot after the catman. But they're all arguing they can't
decide what the best thing to do would be here.
Hawk checks and unfortunately it looks like his radio thing
is broken when he called Ernest borgnine with so there's

(01:01:29):
nothing you can do to call on for support. And
don't forget if they aren't at the top of the
mountain where the pickup area is, they can't be picked
up like Ornest Bordnine's not gonna be able to find them.
This is a serious, dire situation. The group argues about
what to do and Levitt says we should stay put.
Rudy says, I'll be damned if we just sit here
and play bullseye, just like Charlie, whose warm body is

(01:01:50):
still right here with an arrow sticking out of it.
And so Kirk and Ben they say, you know, we
made it to the top, we can make it back,
so let's just move. Let's move now. So they get
in the gear and start rolling back the way they came.
But the Catman is hot on their trail. He grins
and grins and you get those big bright white teeth
showing off and going downhill may seem a lot easier,

(01:02:13):
but at one point Rudy gets going a little too
fast and finds himself almost rolling right off the side
of a cliff. Fortunately, Hawk saves him from falling, but
gives the cat Man just the opportunity he needed, and
with a quick thwang of his bow and arrow, it
goes flying and it lands right into the left side
of Hawk. Hawk is shot by an arrow. You know what,
His legs are not functional now, and he also falls

(01:02:35):
down the cliff like fifty feet and just like crashes
into the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
So on top.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Yeah, but he's not dead. So the Catman is not
always a one shot kill guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Conveniently, he wasn't able to kill the main character of
lun Shot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Yeah PLoP, they have higher HP.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Kirk uses Charlie's gun to fire at the Catman and
scare him off, and he says, I can't leave Hawk.
Hawk was my friend, so we need to find a
way to get down there and check on him. But
we're all handicap we can't climbed down. What can we do.
We're in a shitty situation here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
It's a good time for a nerd to take over.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
If only we had a nerd. But guess what, they
do have a nerd spencer. They have Levit and he's
still trying to prove to everyone, including himself, that he
can do things. Turns out he can, but he does
leave Kirk with the gun because Kirk knows how to
use it apparently, so he's going to protect them from
the Catman. But back at the base camp, Ernest, borgnine
and Catlan have been waiting for Hawk's signal. Cat's getting

(01:03:28):
a little upset because they should have heard from him
by now, so borgnine gets on the radio and tries
to rooch the group, but no avail. It doesn't work.
He decides they're going to take their chopper up and
look for him. So they all jump in the helicopter.
But I must point out this is an airwolf. This
is just one of their sissy helicopters that they have
on the side it says like borgnine's picture on it
or whatever, but not an attack helicopter. We then flashback

(01:03:51):
to the guys and their plan to go down and
get Hawk involves like a Winch and Pulley and the
science and math, and because it is a lot of
engineering and it works is the best part. Because Levitt
goes down. He's a skinny guy. He's the nerd to geek.
So he goes down and sees that Hawk is alive.
And Hawk kind of wakes up and reveals, hey, I've

(01:04:12):
broken my leg. This is going to be tough, and
but since levit's not tough for strong, he uses his
brains because he says he has I have talent elsewhere,
and he lifts him up and they go back up.
Hawk saved eye.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
And Levitt, you can see the light in his eyes
that's come on because his character has found his This
is what I'm here to do. I'm here to be
a nerd and to just rig complex engineering systems on
the fly. So I'm no longer conflicted internally, I've gotten
like my like I've broken through, and Levet's going to

(01:04:47):
be okay now. Is kind of what it feel when
you watch that that scene.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Levin and everyone else realize that it's just as important
to climb the mountain of the mind.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
And to get away from the catman.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Of course, yeah, the two tough things to do in life.
Borg nine. He tries to calm Catlan down because she's
still freaking out, and tells her, look, if the guys
are in trouble, they would have radioed in before what
they they're flying, of course looking for them. They still
just no avail. They can't see them that high up,
but unable to locate the group using their shitty helicopter.
Borg nine decides, all right, it's time to go get

(01:05:21):
the lady, and so they I guess, they fly to
that volcano that they keep airwolf in, load up, getting
the attack helicopter, and the way they go, Dom's in
the pilot's seat. You get the soundtrack plays, and you
get the like Atari Cubert fart button noise and just
boosh they go off and we have since clarified the

(01:05:43):
Cubert can in fact fuck. I know this because I
talked to some other doctors and some have treated him
for various STDs. So keep that in mind. Cubert really
can fuck. By the way, that's all why all those
ghosts are in pac Man because they all died from syphilis.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Well yeah, and he's drinking again, but they're kind of
you know, you can you go right through them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
The guys put a splint around Hawk's leg and they
decide to work on a plan because they know the
Catman's going to return. He's not shooting at them right now,
but he will come after them. Hawk checks a gun
and realizes they've only got one bullet left. This is
a tricky situation that makes this just like NOM.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
I think someone says that there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Well the other guys got it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
It's just like nam Man, you got to use everything
they have at their disposal basically, and then they all agree, yeah,
just like Nomy, you're not joking.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
They all go just like nah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
It must have really resonated with people back then, Like
there's culturally everything always tied back into NOM. What if
you tried to do that now, you just you'd get
the like the weirdest look if you if you're just
like out the grocery store and someone says, oh, no,
we're out of there's out of carrots, just like NOM, I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Will say, I guess nom now would mean like people
use that to me like a food item, like oh mom,
might make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Well you might just say then, like just like falujah
or something like that. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Updated for the Times.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Hawk's plan here is to lure out the Catman by
using the other men as bait. Well, he shoots at
him from the side, So make Catman go over here
and get him and pup you all shoot him, take
care of him. Meanwhile, back at the base camp, the
sheriff has arrived and he's got two body bags in
his trunk or whatever, and Borg nine freaks out says,

(01:07:29):
is that somebody in my group?

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
It turns out no, these are the two hunters from
earlier that they've found, which the sheriff, by the way,
refers to as a couple of varmint hunters, which is
kind of a like you're Sam Many, Sam's a varmint hunters.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
What I was gonna say, Yeah, that's like if he
was the sheriff.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
The sheriff tells them that it seems like these men
ran a foul of the Catman, and he does some
other weird shit too.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
It looks like they might have run into the Catman.
His name is Paul McClellan, and it also looks like
he's probably tracking your group, tracking a group what for?

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Wait a minute, sure, if there's something about the way
you said.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
That could be, I'm hoping not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
What's that supposed to mean?

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
I've got my job.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
Well, this man McClellan used to be some kind of
professor naturalist or something like that. Anyway, he came up
here about eight years ago to study the wildcats, ended
up writing a book, Cry of the Cougar, kind of
interesting about how he had to learn how to live
like a cat in order to track and study them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Well, that's all well and good, sheriff, But what's that
got to do with our missing group.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Well, we've also got people missing up here in these mountains,
people we think might have had run ins with McClellan
over his cats.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
That's what looks like happened to these hunters.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Well, are you saying that he might be after our guys?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
That's what I'm saying. Well, presumably the Catman has murdered
several police officers, and these cops are just like, what
can we do about it? Oh, well, we gotta let him,
do us think. I don't know, his book was great,
so of course we don't really want to go out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
I do like how he made a point to remember
the title, like that matters at all. Right now, he's like,
I think it was the Cougar.

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Someone look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
With a ball of yarn, but it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Meanwhile, through all this, Hawk is climbing on to the
top of the hill so he can get a good
vantage point on the Catman rest. The group then waits
for him to get in a position, and finally they
enact the plan and continue on their way once Hank
makes it to the top. And by the way, their
signal to say we're ready is by Kirk saying let's roll,

(01:09:47):
which is as literal as that phrase can possibly get.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
As they chug along, the soundtrack is more like something
that would be in silk stockings. I might add, it's
like a guitar riff. But then the Catman he piers
through his binoculars again, looking at the men. They're in
their chairs trying to escape. He draws back his bow
and arrow and fires it but narrowly misses. He just
this is the first time we've seen him miss. So
he's not perfect. He's not going at one hundred percent accuracy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
At this point, he's getting kind of frazzled or something,
because earlier he was really on and then as the
show's gone on, he's just his accuracy is depleting. So
I wonder if you know, maybe the Catman can only
fire so many shots and then he starts losing his tie.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Feels the pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Yeah, yeah, he's a little weary too. You know, he's
been chasing after these guys all day. He just killed
those other guys, presumably just us the litter box, we
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Yeah, he's had a long day.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Hawk finally spots the cat Man. He prepares to fire
another shot at the men, but before he can loose
his arrow, Hawk yells you hold it for some reason,
because this end distracts the Catman, who turns, and then
Hawk shoots and misses kind of, but he hits the bow.
He breaks the Catman's bow and arrow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Probably meant to do that. He's so he's so kind
and perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Do you think that's it. This is a legitimate question.
You think that, Okay, I'll fence, he's no killer. I
also think they would do that to show how good
he is. But it's also framed like he just missed
and just got into that. So I don't know. I'm
mostly with you though.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
And that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Was the last bullet, right that was his final shot?

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Yep, yes, that was it. But because it was his
last bullet, spencer he like nervously gulps, like physically visibly
goal when the Catman stands back up, but just then
over the tree line, what do we see, fucking helicopter?
Because if hawk the secret weapon, this military expert can't

(01:11:41):
take down the Catman, you go to the next best thing,
which is a multi billion dollar attack helicopter. They turn
on their directional mic and they hear string say dom
get the man on the hill and Borg nine furrows
his big fluffy brow, sets an action, and borgline and
cat in the line up the attack helicopter is the
cat Man runs away from it like not zig zagging,

(01:12:04):
just runs straight away from the helicopter, which he could
just run under a tree or whatever, but he doesn't.
So borgnine shoots the machine gun and it just leading
up to the Catman, who falls over. Bordnine stops firing
just as it almost gets to the cat Man because
just then all of the wheelchair guys have arrived and
basically the Catman ran right into him. So what they

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do if I don't let me know, if you guys
thought this is how this episode is gonna end, They
pile on top of them and beat him to death. Yeah.
What I add here is is beat the shit out
of him. Yeah, yeah, he's dead. And the whole time
Hawk wipes his part like phew, and then he kind
of grins and chuckles himself as he watches them and

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beat the Catman to death. Back at the base, everybody's safe.
Catlin's here. She's treating Hawk's wounds while Ernest borgnine looms
over him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
And saying things like Hawk, don't be so tough and
great because Hawk does this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
He's been shot with like an arrow and his leg broken. Everything.
He says, I'm not going to the hospital. Aren't too
tough for that. What really would happen here, I think
is if he went to the hospital, they might have
tested him and found out his blood alcohol level was
like zero point fifty or whatever, so you'd take away
his guns or whatever. Yeah, so that's why he didn't
want to go to the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
And let's be very clear, nothing that happened to Hawk
is a thing that you could not go to the hospital. No,
you'd be going to the hospital after what he's.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Shot every arrow.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Levitt here is with his wife Linda, who's crying, and
they're talking about how afraid she was of potentially losing him,
and he says to her, I don't think we're ever
going to have to be afraid of anything ever again,
anything I do. That's because he's so manly now, like
he's figured out his purpose. Is that what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Yes, so, but I do wish she'd be like, why,
what's changed?

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
What's that correlation?

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
I guess, assaulted by a catman in a mountain with
a bow and arrow when you don't have legs, what's
worse than that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Yeah, that's not the olearya man know whether challenge can
compare to that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
They say they love each other and hug and we
pan over to see Rudy who he puts it on
Charlie Callahan's lapd cat hat, and again Charlie's the guy
who got shot and died. It's the cop, he asked Kirk.
He says, do you think, Rudy asked Kirk, do you think,
Charlie mind if I wore this hat? And Kurse says,
you know what, Rudy, he'd be proud of you, So

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put on that soaked hat. Catlin also checks in on
Ben Fororan, who says he's okay, but then claims he's
gonna cut on his finger and she should tend to this. Huh,
pretty lady, and also one on my arm also right here, bam,
he doesn't right me?

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Or Rod.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Yeah, she giggles at his fortacious nature, but again, this
is by the way, one day, presumably after he beats
someone to death. So it's good they can get over
the Maurice's family's busy clutching on to him. It's like
six people holding him, and the entire group all gathered
in a circle before Kirk's wife says the absolute shittiest

(01:15:10):
thing any human being could say at this situation. She says, well,
I guess you guys didn't make it to the top
of the mountain, did you. Fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Let's start again.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
They just got attacked by this murderous man. Someone is dead,
and she's still like, well, you didn't even finish.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
It's kind of all for nothing, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
How happy she should even be, But she does follow
that up with well, we're all glad you're okay though,
so you know, good job, Pat Pat B minus Pat
Pat Pat. One of the guys says, you know what,
you're right, we all made it, didn't we? No, you
didn't all make it. Demonstray.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Someone is dead, but they've got Charlie's hat and they're like, yeah,
he's here with us and this and this hat right now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
He's here in spirit and cup spirit dead, Cob spirit.
Eventually everyone holds hands in circle, they raise their arms
in the air. People clap. We get a still shot
airwolf sober that's it. Airwolf, air wolf attack helicopter. What
the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Okay? I do think that they would, you get a
little bit of relief from having survived it. But I
do think that having all witnessed Charlie die, that there
would be quite a bit more trauma right now than
they're showing up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Oh yes, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Acting kind of like we did it, We've accomplished something,
and it's like, yes, but someone that we knew in
Love is dead, so there's not a whole lot of
time to be happy about much right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
We don't want to take away the accomplishment you've done,
but be a little somber because that man is dead
and for no reason you were attacked by a cat
man on a mountain. No one could have guessed this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
What the fuck me in I believe?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Oh excuse me, thank you for that correction. What did
you guys think of Airwolf as a whole? Been talking
about the show for a while. I finally picked it.
Made you watch these two episodes? Of course, last time
out we had wings Houser versus Stringfellow Hawk and it
was wonderful, and then we had Catman this time. So
what did you think Airwolf was? And did this measure

(01:17:15):
up to your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
This is basically what I thought, like a really dumb,
kind of ill conceived eighty show that fits nicely in
our pantheon of dumb, ill conceived eighty shows.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
There were so many of them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
It's not up at the top of those, but it
has moments that certainly sit with that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
The theme song's good, Yeah, that songs pretty good. Yeah,
that's very true. Yeah, I honestly like it. It is
so similar to so many of these gadgetry shows that
we've done where they they didn't really have much thing.
Yeah they did, they didn't have much, God bless them.
They did their best and it was the eighties, so

(01:17:53):
we forgive them. And it's it's certainly got its moments,
but it's ridiculous and it's not like there's any kind
of like acting going on or anything, but.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Just the guy who says what twice what they had their.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Gimmick and they had a vision. I guess you could
say maybe they did their thing. So you know, it's
not totally without merit for it's it's eighties thing. I agree,
it's a show that really fits in well with our
catalog anyway, it's I don't I would argue that we
want to talk about we wouldn't have really been us
if we didn't include this show. At some point, I

(01:18:27):
would say.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
And it's a historically bad show. It's on a lott
of lists.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Yeah, Brian, you brought up those other shows, and that
was my next question on the list. If we're going
to rank the ones that we've done that are similar
to this, where is Airwolf on that pantheon, if you will.
We bet we had night Rider, of course with David Hasselhoff,
which might be my favorite at least dash eighty shows.
I'm not sure, because then we had Airwolf, and then
we also had Street Hawk. Now street Hawk was you know,

(01:18:52):
the guy on the motorcycle and it had.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Right beside Street Hawk and the this is just stupid
this this is a vehicle and a man and there's
not a lot of actual thought put into it. The
lead actor is not super capable, but by god, ye
got to admire how dumb it is and how much
fun it is to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Sure, so the night Writers, of course you're number one,
so I kind of like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Magnum better too. It's just got, you know, there's more
to chew on.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Yeah, I mean it's not really fair because night Writer
has car so it's tough to top night Writer because
of Cark.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Otherwise, Daniel day Lewis was in fucking Airwolf.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Otherwise, I mean I could see an argument for some
of the other ones, like that night Writers really know better.
It's just kind of its own sort of brand of dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
I should have specified quality. It's not something any of
these possessed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
No you're not gonna find it. But yeah, there's I
think Nightwriter had enough like one off elements that were like,
holy shit, this is amazing that did elevate it to
the top of those shows. For whatever the reason.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Nothing Writer, Well, the thing about it is like Hasselhoff
is a pretentious douchebag in real life and he's a
bad actor, but he still does the thing. And I've
said this every time we talked about it, like he
makes you believe he's afraid that car is going to
fuck up the world, Like you buy that he's afraid
of it. I take the point where you're life does

(01:20:12):
he know exactly is he going on this? Like he
really is a secret agent who can has a talking
car and they're just kind of filming show on the side.
I think that's what he thought. Airwolf the lead actors awful.
Stringfellow Hawk here is just Jan Michael Vincent. Sorry, yeah,
he's terrible. He's drunk all the time. Borg nine rules,

(01:20:32):
but you never get enough borg nine on any of
these episodes. I think, just because of how bereft of
quality Airwolf is, it's probably a close number two for me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
It's not my writer about Borg nine. His presence. I
don't think there's a side character in the other ones
that I mean, unless you want to count like the
like I said, the one off like car, but like
a regular character. That's it's pretty tough to beat what
Ernest borgnine brings to this. So that does elevate it, all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Right, guys, any other final thoughts about Airwolf before we
find out what our next show might be.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Oh, I was just thinking about, let me know if
this is a good idea becoming a professor and then
maybe retiring to the woods. Do you think that'll work
out for me? I think there's a twenty percent chance
that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
That's what I know. But let me tell you this
if okay, I think that's a good thing to end
our discussion of Airwolf on. We have not recorded for
a while, and the last time we did record, which
is maybe four months ago, I think we recorded uh
Spencer revealing his next show, and so I'm going to

(01:21:40):
just play that. I haven't listened to it, and for
from the downs, it's us from the past. Check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
I'm I'm gonna give a little spoiler the show is
better than Airwolf.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Yeah, that's a spoiler because it narrows it down so much.
But yeah, you'll find out so or say a listen
to what'll be covering next.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
So it's been a long time since I picked the
show that I just said, Hey, this is a new
show we're going to do and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Six months and we'll do it. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Yeah, but it's been a long time. So things have
happened since I picked my last one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Yeah, what was your last one?

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Was it Silicon Valley? Yeah, So a lot of stuff
has happened in real and I r L. Things have
been going on and big prices, the roof something happened
that we need to finish. We had some unfinished business
once this thing happened, which is the second season of
Squid Gangs. All right, we're going to pick up with

(01:22:36):
season two, and like we did the first time, I'm
just going to pick the first two, okay, and then
we can we can decide if we want to do
bonus content later for all of them or whatever we do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Should be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Yeah, cat man, but I feel like this will be
fun to pick up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
No, I guess they're squid man in this. So the
first one is squid Game season two, episode one, and
it is called Bread and lottery.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
One of those things. I do bread, you do bread.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
I do bread like you do bread.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I'm borg nine something.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Oh boy, avengeful Jehun makes a U turn at the airport.
Later in his hideout, which apparently he now has, he
intensifies his search for the elusive recruiter who is seeking
new players. So that's the official overview. Having not seen
it yet, none of us know what happens. I assume
this is him wanting to know more about what their
situation and now he's trying to uncover the mystery behind it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
That's sort of where we end it, right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Yeah, because we were thinking he would be this vigilante
going for justice.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Does he keep the blonde hair that he had in
that last episode? Do you think? I wonder if the
whole season he's just blonde. Probably should a blonde Jehun
that way.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
You know, it's season two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
You know, he was in a Star Wars show that
bombed that I think was actually okay, but you know,
Star Wars fans are awful. It's called The Acolyte and
he was like a master Jedi and everyone hated the show,
but they loved his performance.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Did he play Bradshaw?

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Yes, he played Bradshaw for Rouke Believe It or Not,
was played by the guy who went to the so University. Yeah,
he said, damn, you know that's a good school, but
for you, it's great school. So best school.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
And then season two, episode two is called Halloween Party.
Sounds right up my allet and.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
This point, so wait, the first one isn't about Grandma's.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
It's not unless we might find a grandma in there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
You can go as a grandma for Halloween.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
I could Halloween Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
The overview of Halloween Party for our second episode, as
Jehune finally gets hold of an invitation marked for Halloween Day,
in a tense moment facing June Ho, they reveal their
truths to each other, some big secrets getting revealed. And
then I think there are a few fewer episodes in
the season, so there will probably be a big race

(01:24:44):
to the end at the end of our or our
second episode that we cover, so we'll kind of set
up season two, maybe get a chance to compare how
we feel about it compared to the start of the
first season. And it just feels like a thing we
needed to do, you know, let's dress up, we got
our things. Pitos on as we return to the world
of prestige television.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
You guys seem to act like we've let we weren't
there just oh, I forgot.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
We covered the Catman episode of Airwolf.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Exactly. It is prestige television. I almost watched Squid Game
season two, but I have actually.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Againen so yeah, I haven't seen any of it either,
so I'm really none of us have.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Will go in with virgin eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Oh wow, So Squid Games season two, that'll be fun.
It's a real show. And I remember we're saying all
of what I said during that segment. Well, yeah, we
were funny and witty like this and to the point
it didn't beat around the bush at all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
So now there's proof of how hot we are too. Yeah,
that's on YouTube. It's like, yeah, exactly knew it. You
knew it all along when you listen to us, and
now you can see it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
You can tell it in our voices. These are hot voices.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
You can just tell yeah, when you listen to podcasts
like I that they're all hot.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
That's right, yeap.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
So stay tuned for the upcoming Squid Game season two episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
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(01:26:18):
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Yeah, once in a while I post about wrestling and
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