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August 21, 2025 • 98 mins
Way back on episodes 47 and 48 of the BTB Podcast the fellas took a trip "across the pond" as they say to jolly old South Korea as they covered the explosive Netflix hit Squid Game. Well it's been a hot minute and after the release of the second season (and apparenlty the third) Spencer decided now was the time to revisit hte old pals!

Last we saw, our plucky hero Gi-Hun had died his hair a nice shade of bright pink and was preparing to make his way to America. After all he had a whole bunch of squid money and just wanted to fix his relationship with his estranged daughter. But upon seeing the notorious and mysterious "recruiter," he decided instead to go on a John Wick path of vengeance. He's so vengeful!

The guys talk the first episode of Season 2: Bread and Lottery, and along the way discuss whether or not there really even needed to be a season 2 of this show. They also talk the new characters, motivations, and give out plenty of squid facts
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to the Boob two Boys Podcast. If that ominous
intro music didn't give it away, we have some deadly
games in store for you guys today, probably not as
deadly as the game in the show five. Probably we
take chances of your questions. What would you say the
deadliest game you've ever played? Brian Vaughan, co host of
The Boob two Boys Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I would say the deadliest game I've ever played his marriage.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Wow, I guess I wasn't expecting that, wollas one of
you who has intimate knowledge of that. Tough, tough to
beat that one. Van. What's the deadliest game you've played?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well, mine's grape Escape because your little grape guy goes
around and then you push the thing sometimes to get
snipped and you get your finger cut in their sometime
say smooh them and your finger caught in there, So
good meaningful anthems to grapes.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
We had some good contrast there there there game.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I was in the Squid Games. Actually, I forgot to
tell you guys. Yeah, I didn't get the money, but
I did survive, so that.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Fan and I were very wealthy, and we were sitting
up in the booth rooting for you, and like we
both discussed it. We were like, we should probably help Spencer,
But did we gambled against you?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Actually?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh yeah, I'm glad you defied us. Though we lost money,
but like we gained.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
You would think this would be this would come between us,
but none of us had remembered to even talk about it,
so obviously it's not that big of a deal. No,
I think we can move forward from.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Though Van and I still do sometimes wear our triangle
robes so pretty stylish.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Not the first time we've talked about squid game on
bootsoo boys, is it guys squad Reunite?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I called us a squid squad rall last time we
covered the show. Yeah, I believe it now. And I
don't have any squid clothing, but because we're on video,
I did wear my two pieces of seafarer clothing, which
is I have this shirt that I once wore for
some sort of occasion. I have two shirts with collars. Okay,
what am I supposed to do? This one has lobsters
on it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Then these are swimming pants. I don't like the word
trunks and they have sharks on them. So like my
thought was I'll be as in touch with the ocean
as I can be.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I have a shirt here with cherries on it, and
as we know, cherries food. Yeah, and it grow in
the ocean. That's why squids love them so much, Spencer.
Did you know that the ink sack of a squid
can be triggered to release this black substance very rapidly?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh, I know, it can happen quick. Yeah, they can
do it real fast if they need to.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Did you know that the colossal squid is the largest
invertebrate in the world. The smallest is least sepoiled squid.
It is less than one inch long and waste less
than a quarter of an ounce.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Is this is something I googled about three hours ago.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, I lea's right here on my screen. Yep, Yeah,
it was quid.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
So we of course only did season one, episode one
and two when we went last time, and then we
l and I believe a Patreon episode about the rest.
We didch the entire season and we talked about it.
We only covered the first two on the show. I
don't know you can you can find it in the
archive somewhere. It's like one hundred episodes ago or.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Something episodes forty seven and forty eight.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Right, I'll pull that.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It probably was one hundred episodes from like nineteen ninety
four when we started podcasting.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
We invented it, so at the time we didn't know
yet because it was still relatively recent. At that it
was past the point where it was super popular and
everyone was talking about it, but it was still pretty fresh,
so we didn't know what was to become of it.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's the best you could expect of us is to
be like twenty percent behind.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we were. We definitely didn't catch
the wave, but we're close. Since then, they've done a
lot more Squid Game. We've got this second season, which
they dropped last December of four, and they've already released seasons.
They've already filmed season three. I should say, no, it's out,
it's out?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Is it out? Okay?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I am in possession of a wow legally.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
So what's great about that is literally, we take this
anti capitalist thing and then America says, oh, it's successful,
let's smack some capitalism into it. We got to promote this.
We gotta do game shows, we gotta do toys. Let's
pump out some new seasons. I mean, it's insane. We'll
see if it lives up to the first season.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Though, this is a question for you, Van, a philosophical
question about media.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
I'm not giving away my answer here, but like, if
you enjoy watching both of those additional seasons, do you
feel that it's viable or do you feel like even then,
like it's extraneous.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
That's tricky because I don't want to say it all
boils down to whether or not it sucks, but that
really is does play into it. But yeah, it's it
shouldn't exist. But because they've made it, I'll check it
out and if it's good, then great. But much like
when we covered Beef, the other Netflix show, m I

(05:11):
feel like we got it, We're good, this is awesome.
Let's ye put our stamp approval on it and be
done with it. But since it's here, it's the nature
of the beast now, you know, we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I talked to someone today about doing this very
recording and they said, yeah, that should have just been
one season. Like I feel like that is what it is.
But I also kind of feel like if you can
make something creatively viable, and take Netflix's money. I don't know,
go for it.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
The guy who did this, Spencer, may have his name,
I don't remember. He famously barely got paid for his creation.
So I'm hoping because it's continuing that he's getting bank
like he's getting paid or whatever. His factors are getting
paid hopefully. So that's the positives to it, in my
opinion is the people who work on it can get

(06:02):
a tiny morsel of a reward considering how screwed they
were from the first season, and like.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Ji Hunk can get some money for like working on
us about that much.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Let's see, he put some effort into that. Thing's good.
I think it's because he did the Star Wars show
and they're like, you're gonna be, yeah, a Jedi master.
You've got to be in shape, buddy. And so he
waved his life Saber and the squids, and he took
all home, all the money, and now he's buff.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Like you guys alluded to. Yes, this is this was
supposed to be a one season show. The creator who
let me just get this out of the way right now,
I said this last time. I can't say these Korean
names right at all. It's not for lack of respect,
but the culture, I just don't know how to do it.
And it's pretty typical for Americans. We kind of can
only say our thing and sometimes somewhere do that. Well, yeah,

(06:49):
we're pretty dumb. I'm unfortunately, I'm going to mispronounce a
lot of these names, and I apologize to our bear
Win audience the pronunciation. I will do my best. Yeah,
I'll do my best. But the creator is Huang or Wlang,
but probably Huang Dong Hayek. Yeah, so Dong hyuck. He
conceived season one is a one off, and of course

(07:11):
it's like you guys alluded to. Its explosive success is
the note that I have here. It became netflix most
watched series ever and just under two weeks. So when
they had that kind of success, yeah, it got some
executive attention and they're like, we can't let this end here.
So yeah, they went back to the creator, and to

(07:32):
his credit, he decided to make more with it, and
he seems to have another part of the story to tell,
so we will see what we think of it. He
made it work in regard to what the audience demanded,
So it was supposed to just end the way it did.
The first season. I would have been good with it.
I thought that was a perfectly acceptable open ending that
left us with some questions that we don't necessarily need answered.

(07:56):
But since they decided to demand more and we get
more time to find out some of those answers.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Let me ask sus Spencer, because Brian and I were
talking just before we started recording. I have to this
point because we're only recording one episode of squid Gamed
for now. We'll record a second later on a different date.
I've only watched this first episode of the second season
as of right now. Have you watched the second season?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I have not, and I decided to do exactly what
you did. I'm just sticking with this one for now,
so I've only seen the intro. Of course, Brian, you've
seen the whole thing right ahead.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I have. Yeah, I watched it all about six months
ago when we first made this plan because two of
the members I'm gonna always say it this way, two
of the members of the podcast relocated and.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Could be a different too this session. No, it could
be you never know.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Leading up to that, I really needed like just something
where I didn't have to think about planning or anything,
so there were like two nights where I watched all
of these and that actually made me change my mind
a little bit on the series, because I only wanted
there to be the one season. The second season, though,
I think, takes a uh like I mentioned this kind

(09:01):
of illusion earlier, but like it's like a band that
releases a really serious album and then releases an album.
It's like, these are a six catchy songs or whatever.
It's like an ep This is a really catchy season.
I don't think it has as much on its mind,
but it has a lot more plotting and it is
really fun to watch. And if you like have too
much to do, watch this and it'll distract you.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
And there was some more goofball stuff that happened just
in this episode, and it's great.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's also funny, like there are there are parts of
the episodes where I'm like, you guys have made an
effort to like ramp up humor here, and it has
left me at a point where it ends on a cliffhanger,
just as season one did, but I think a much
more dramatic one, and I'm excited to watch season three.
I'll probably do it soon. I might choose for us

(09:48):
to cover it. Who knows, Yeah, I mean we might.
I might also choose empty nest.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
You never know. We could go any direction. It's probably
we could do Airwolf again for all you guys know.
It could be anything. You could be mine. We it
will be bones, is what you mean to say. So,
and that's how we talked about the Season two and
season three were filmed at the same time, so season
three is already starting as well. Should be just mass
producing them? Sure? Well, I think the season three just

(10:15):
came out in June and season two this December.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I kind of feel like they could have waited and related.
You guys will see when the season ends. It's kind
of like, Okay, this feels kind of cheap, like there
is an element of that of like your first season
was so complete and more episodes, and this one is
kind of like you could have probably made a twelve
episode season instead of two sixes, right, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Oh is that what it is? By the way, just
six episodes?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I think this one seven, seven and six. Sorry there,
and they're a little longer, but not much like I
think the story was already told, but they figured well
I fleshed out the universe, so I can make you
know that stuff happen again, and we can we can
create another like a couple mini seasons out of it. Yeah,
and they thought, well, Brian has to move, and Brian
has to be this, let's give him something to do. Yeah,

(11:00):
so that creator.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Narrowed it down by one. By the way, as you said,
two of the members have moved, but you just revealed
that you're one of the members this time.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know, next time it might be you and me.
Man am I a reliable narrator though. The creator, I
should mention, did resist this initially, despite the opportunity to
get more money that he didn't get before. He was
burned out because he was like the solo mind behind
this whole.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
World, so he didn't really want to every episode of
the first season.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
He was like the sole creator of that whole thing,
so he didn't really want to do any more with it.
And it got so popular they kind of made him
and he eventually did come around. Obviously.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's legitimately crazy though, because that's like a lot of plotting.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I mean, it's a there's a lot in this story. Actually,
since we're not covering season one. If you didn't see
season one somehow, or if you know, you just forgot
like it's been a while, kind of like me, I
hadn't watched him in a long time. I just really
quickly I pulled some basic information about season one. This
is not my content. I just pulled it from the internet.

(12:03):
I'm going to summarize. It shouldn't take very long, but
this will kind of get us all up to speed
on where we're starting with today's episode, which is, of course,
season two, Episode one, Lottery and Bread or is it
breadon Lottery? I forgot bredon Lottery, which for a very specific,
fucked up reason that we'll be talking about here later on.
So season one, it was four hundred and fifty six
desperate people drowning in debt sign up for a mysterious

(12:25):
competition promising life changing money. They quickly learn the stakes
six childhood games, win and live or lose and die.
So g Hun, as our protagonist, are unlucky. Every man
teams up with his childhood friend song Wu, a cunning defector,
Cybock loyal. Is it Ali? Was it Ali? Or Ali?
I think it was Ali?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Ali?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
A frail, nicest guy in the first season.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
He was so sweet play and then a frail old
man player zero zero one.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
As the game one at first well.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
As the games progress, alliance form betrayals hit hard, and
the the line between survival and humanity plars fast. We
watch a massacre in red light green light, a sugar
cookie nightmare, tug of war over a death drop, a
heartbreaking marble round that was really sad, and a glass
bridge of doom, culminating in a bloody final duel between

(13:19):
Jihun and song Wu. In the end, Jehan wins but
loses nearly everyone he cares about the bomb show is
that player's eero zero one or however he was said
double oh one, double o seven was the mastermind all
I'm not quite the game rule. I'm John Connery. I

(13:39):
should not have done that. The games exist. I was
never Misster America Bodybuilder. I was just kind of like
fourth place. The games exists for the amusement of the
ultra rich, and nothing has really changed. The cycle continues
and tells Jihun vows to stop it. That's what happens
at the end is he gets he gets really pissed,
because at first he's kind of shell shocked. Then he

(14:00):
decides you know what, I'm going to bring these guys down.
He dies his hair pink, and that's that's the end
of the season, is where I guess that's his energy
level represented. I don't know. Have you guys ever dyed
your hair?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yes, well, an unnatural purpler purple?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I did. I knew about that. I did about that.
Have my head painted green? That one Saint Patrick's that
you guys are around that I mean, I mean I
coul dye the beard. I guess you could dye your beard.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's what I was actually getting ready to say, Yeah,
I would you dye your beard?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Nah? Yeah, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, I don't think I've ever dyed my hair an
unnatural color. Like I dyed my hair for a while
due to self consciousness about being ancient, and I stopped
that about half a year ago. And now I have
I don't know, like the greyest hairy one's ever had,
and like that's totally fine or whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
But I have thought, like, what if I died in
a weirdo color? So that's a nice middle ground.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
My next question is this, if I dyed my hair
a color that is not a natural human color, well,
color should I die my hair listeners also email us
aid bueto ink dot something at gmail, dot whatever, get
all of us on Discord.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Leave a review, yep, yep, leave a review telling Brian
what color color is hair?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Let me ask you, so what if you leave a
review right now down my hair?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
The fucking color you say?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Somebody get out, there's a great plug right now. Yeah,
I think you should probably limit it the choices to
the spectrum you can see. And yeah, dark colors helped too,
But what can you see because you are naturally color blind?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I am red green color blind, which I just read
a thing that makes me feel so much better. I
didn't know this and I looked up. But red green
color blindness also affle affects blues and purples, and I
never knew this, And my whole life, I've been like,
I think that's purple, and then somebody like it's blue,
and I'm like, I shouldn't say anything.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Sometimes it's hard to tell with blue and purple. That
would be yeah, like the violet sort of thing. I
don't know, but it's it's more sphere than I thought.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
However, I see colors, which is cool, So I'm glad
I get that at least. I think it have to
be a dark color because like, obviously you can't be
blonding this up, like even with the gray like I had.
You guys knew me four hundred years ago. I had
like almost black hair, and like so like putting two
light of a color in it is probably gonna fuck

(16:20):
it up.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, I'll see what you have to do, because I
have black hair, as you can see. Yeah, when I
did it, I had short hair. Now my hair is
incredibly long.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
But yeah, and you have like no gray hair. It
is insane.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I think that's the Native America.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Sure and I are both dying.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, you guys are gray. I get in the beard
a little bit, that's about it. And it's only.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Wise we might be wise. Yeah, it's like owls. I
think it starts in the chin. That's where mind started,
and then it kind of minds you stop gradually.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Out and what anture.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You You may remember this and on my temples. I
had gray hair when I was like sixteen.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, and I think that you know that that's pretty common.
I mean I've heard of other people that saying they
get gray hair really early, so I know I know
that happens.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's well, like Robin Williams and Jack.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
But what you have to do as a dark hair
is you have to dye it like blonde white pretty
much a couple of times, then add the color to it.
So you can't just do it as black because it'll
just be black with a little bit of color speckled in.
But yeah, so you don't like peroxide that shit.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I was dyeing my hair it's actual, like former natural color,
not quite as dark as that for a long time.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
And now I've decided I'm going to become.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
A regular who has gray hair, like George Clooney if
George Clooney like did a podcast instead of being in
Syriana or something.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Did. We talked last time about how if you were
playing like the Red Light Green Light game, you wouldn't
have been able to tell the colors.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I mean, I listened to these recently, Okay, in preparation.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
For that, seems like that's thing we would cover. I
just felt like a little dejavou right there.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I would have had to rely on someone to yell
at me. That's going to come up later, by the way,
when we cover the episode.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
We discussed how we would perform all three of us
because it would fall over. I was too clumsy in that.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, you would die, we would all die. The episode
that we're going to cover lottery and bread, I want
to mention real quickly before we get into the synopsis
and start talking about what happens in. At the beats
of the episode, it again brings back Jihun, who is
played by and I'm I think I'm reading their family
name first, right, the Lee Jung j.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
That's how we would say it is Americans.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Having just listened to our episodes before. This is how
Van described it before you do the last name first.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, so it's Lee Jung jaire or Jay. That's their
our lovely g hun. If you didn't do not watch
it with the dubs this time, I was just gonna
let it happen. And I couldn't make it. It was
so bad and the yeah, it's just how I started
to and then it was so bad that I couldn't
do it. And the guy who dubs Jihun, oh, man,
it just makes.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
The hope guy because I did the dubs the first
season and they were so bad. For this season, I
watched them speaking Korean and then so much better.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Uh sobs only person I can't.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I was going to just not fuss with it because
it defaulted to the English one because that's what people want,
and I was just gonna be like, okay, final, just
let it happen. But I made it like fifteen minutes in,
and I just thought it was the worst thing I'd
ever seen in my life. It's so I get that.
So the rest of the people in in this episode,
there are gonna be some people that we probably won't

(19:31):
talk about that we're in season two, that are not
in the couple we're doing, so I'm only talking about
this particular episode. We also have Frontman, of course, who
is long in Ho and that is Lee byung hun.
And then we have John Hoe, of course, our police
officer from the first season, and he is he is

(19:51):
played by a He's not just an actor. He's actually
a Korean model Wee hajun. That's the place.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
That it's like pretty evident right away.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, the girl from last season she was eye locked out,
it's like super hot.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah when you see those yeah, yeah, surely, like that's
not just the thing that Korean people look like that
like it's like that I was no, Yeah, yeah, these
people are not people you actually see and.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Really, these are people you would like see in real
life and not be able to speak to.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Makes me think of Beef the Brother, who was just
a total hunk. And my favorite part about that was
when they had the flashback. He's supposed to be like
a sixteen year old, so they gave him a park
and a beanie and they're like a song, he's.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Forty five pack. And then we have I don't really
even remember who this is. We have myng g or
my young gee, who was played by Yim Saiwan, and
that may be the guy who loses the doc GI
later in the episode. It could be. I believe that
it is, because he's in the rest of the season, right, Yeah, Yeah,

(20:59):
that's him and the bucket hat.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
The second I saw him come on screen, I said,
I either want this guy to win or die the
worst death of mate.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, you're very pro bucket had in the right scenario man.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
And then we have only in the right scenario Kim
John He who is Joe you ree? And that is
a I believe the character that I just said, I
believe that's his love interest. So I believe those two
are in the later episodes. We see a glimpse of
them in the far and then Joe, you read do

(21:35):
a dear a female dear?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Huh you get it or whatever?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I like it. That couple.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
That couple actually takes some interesting turns.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I figured they would, and we talked a little bit
about them in this episode. They very briefly. They got
some cameos and it's good foreshadowing a couple of guest
stars in this episode. If you wanted some backstory about
the recruiter, this is your episode. And that is we
don't know. His name is just the recruiter. That's an
actor named Golm And you guys like him, right? You
found him really like I mean, that's not a not

(22:09):
a badly written character. There were parts that were over
the top, but I thought that it was interesting at
a certain point.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I'm like, I like the idea of this, but guys.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
They they really went overboard. Yeah, but the idea they
are monster.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, it's yeah, as likable as a monster.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
He could be president there. Of course, there's one scene
with him later on that I cannot wait to talk
about because it was really well done. But I mean, yeah,
he's an interesting guy. They just let him. They let
him go about twenty minutes too long, I think, but good,
good scene overall with him. We do get a brief
cameo in their heads from Song Wu and Sybalk that
you guys saw that right there? Their heads are in here,

(22:47):
not the actors, just their heads. I missed them.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Then we have Wu Sock who is That's what I
say every day when I put my clothes on.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Acted by someone named John when you're Wo suck. And
then we also have Kim Jeong ray I'm just gonna
call him Kim in the episode. He's the Loan Sharks leader.
He's played by Kim pub Lay. And then lastly the
Sea Captain, the best one, the Sea Captain.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
We love him something McAllister, I think that's his name.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Most Korean people have the surname mc.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, of course, So that that's a little bit of
an idea of who the cast is we're going to
be dealing with. I will bring them up as we
see them in the episode two. So let's stop butchering
names and actually continue with the episode now, so real quickly,
the synopsis of the episode. The whole thing we're talking
about today, Season two, Episode one, Lottery and Bread is
evengeful Ghun makes a U turn at the airport later

(23:43):
in his hideout because it is he intensifies his search
for the elusive recruiter who is seeking new players. And
I gotta say, Geehun in this episode, every time you
see him, it's like, Oh, he's so vengeful. Look at
that guy. See that all the time. I'm like, vengeful.
I'll just kick it off theense. Since we've done all
of the introduction stuff we can possibly do for this.

(24:03):
This is season two of squid Game opening up here,
and it kind of picks up where season one leaves off,
where Jihan is at the airport attempting to leave. He's
got a choice to get out of this thing, leave
it behind him forever, and reconnect with his daughter in
the United States.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
We have to assume at this point he's already spent
nineteen dollars on AMC Chicken and a small fry Minnesota,
which is the thing I did once at O'Hare in Chicago,
and I did not expect it, and I'm never this person,
but I was like, nineteen dollars.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I said it back out loud. I was like, is
that real? And they're like, yeah, how much sun. Is
that you think.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Probably sixty billion?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, I think it's about like you have to give
up your head, just cut it off.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
So when he sees the recruiter still at it, Jehan
does that. He just decides, never mind, I can't leave.
I have to hunt this down. I have to stop
this ring of whatever whatever this is.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'm got vengeance.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
All of a sudden, he's gotten very vague with his
pink hair, and he decides, I'm not flying home. My
daughter can wait. I have to solve this. She'll understand.
So he's going to stay and he's going to go
ahead and take this ring down of whatever they are.
He receives a call immediately when he changes his mind
from the front man. He calls him and he threatens him,
and he says, you know, you really you should have

(25:20):
just gotten on that plane. You're not going to be
able to do anything better than get on the plane.
But it's Geehan. He's bengeful. He doesn't he's not gonna
he's not going to be deterred. He's not going to say, okay,
front man, you're right, I'm going to get in the plane.
So he leaves the airport enters a cab says, take
me to soul, and then heads to a nearby gas
station and he's getting a razor blade. Guys, he goes

(25:41):
to a gas station just looks on for a razor blade.
Well in a public bathto in a public bathroom, we're
about to find out he undresses just nude in a
public bathroom that anyone can come. He is checking his
body all over and he's doing a little pat He's
feeling around because he thinks that there's a track in him,
and there is because there's a little gross spot right

(26:02):
behind his left ear, and he just goes ahead and
digs that thing right out.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I think of the matrix every time. I think, yeah,
see something that's very like that.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, and we get we get a good shot of
the razor blade just digging in there. There's blood dripping
all over the place. Bother you, guys, not really. I
mean it was gruesome, but they didn't make it show
it like getting in there.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Now, if he were doing eye things like even pretend
in movies and stuff, that will bother me.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
But I and tees, I have problems with eyes and teeth. Yeah,
it thankfully was nothing like that, so I didn't I
didn't have a huge problem with it.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
There's a scene in the Americans where someone pulls teeth
and I can't look at it.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
There's a Mad Been episode two where Don pulls his
here like his tooth is bothering him, and he just
yanks it out and ends the episode. Don Drake Guys
Andre John hamm Our Missouri Brethren geehun naked in the bathroom.
We we didn't talk about how after he cuts that
thing out, a kid just comes in because it's a
public bathroom and he's just sitting there naked with blood everywhere,

(27:02):
and he says, hey, sorry, kid, just give me five minutes.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
And then a kid looks at him and says, five minutes.
You want five fucking minutes? Yeah, I've got five fucking minutes.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah. He has a bandada on. It's a whole ordeal.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
He's said.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, this sort of stuff is the stuff that I
like being added though, because, like, if you're going to
have a more like homage to eighties action or whatever,
which this turns into having watched the whole season, I
like having more little jokes.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, it's cute, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I like how the kid is not really all that phazed.
You know. He looks at him for a little bit.
He's like, all right, yeah, I'll give you a little bit.
Looks like the other.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Way to play that is the kid like screams and
runs out of there and like people.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
But some people will find it funny. This is way better.
Oh yeah, no, I liked it. If they're going to
do that with it, he.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Just stumbs up and that's it.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah. The other part of our opening sequence here that
that matters quite a bit is we we quickly cut
to the hospital. We see a patient in bed. Who's
that patient? Guy's it's it's Jung Ho. He is not dead,
which is interesting because at the last at the end
of the first season, he was shot by front Man,

(28:12):
who we learned as his brother. A little complicated there,
but he got shot.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Up and I don't have brothers. I've obviously been shot
by my Yeah, I guess yeah, everybody likes yeah, you
get shot by your brother.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
To be fair, he was only shot in the shoulder,
so he did fall off of a huge cliff, so
you assume. I think we all assumed he was dead
and when we watched the season one, but.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
We're all like, he's coming back. Yeah, wink, wink not.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
I wouldn't have necessarily thought so until we realized there
was a season.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Sure, that's the thing. If you weren't going to do
season two, then I guess you're implying, yeah, that's it, that's.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
A oh, and that would be ballsy to have him
just die there.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
So this is him, This is jung Ho. This is
what became of him. He is not dead. He's in
the hospital recuperating, but he's clearly been I guess like
an a coma or something, because he opens his eyes.
His mother is watching him and is understandably excited, freaking
out calling for a doctor because it turns out, hey,
my my son is coming back from the dead. He
might just make it through this.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Juneo was gung ho about life.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
He has one line here in this opening scene before
we get the title card that you know, isn't there's
there's not much to it's just a card in the show.
But he has one line where he says in ho,
he just says his brother's name. I do wish it
had been something else, but he does. He says the
name of his brother who tried to murder him. As
that's the first thing that leaves his lips as he

(29:40):
wakes up from his coma.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I'm going to tell you guys right now, if either
of you fall into a coma, and I want you
to make me the same problem. I want you to
be waiting there and then if I speak again, let's
start recording right then, like oh yeah, absolutely postcoma podcast.
And I don't plan on going into a Koma.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I feel like even if Inna Koma would continue to speak.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
It'll happen though. One of these days one of us
will go into a coma. Now, I think the best
thing that could have happened in Squid Game here was
if he opens his eyes and first words he says
before it goes to the title card is he just
goes Squid Game.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Okay. I would have liked it. Yeah, I mean it's
so that I would have been like, okay, fine, So
with a title card, you guys don't have anything right, Like,
there's nothing you can do with that.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
It's neat. I think this is a perfect intro for
you because it's.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Netflix has been doing this for.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
A while time.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
It says, Spencer would love how this is three seconds.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
There's just nothing to do. I mean, I guess they could.
I guess they could show him my tosh of season
one then getting mowed down by the red light green
light person or something.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Van and I are much more amenable to credit sequences. Van,
do you have an example of like a long one
that you're like, this is worth.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It, a long one that's freaky because the long.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Ones interrogating us because we've always defended credit sequences.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I always think of the one of the first one
we did with Alf and him like bursting in on
the mom showering and doing all kinds of creepy.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, you can jerk off to it. It's great.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
And that's a solidly long one. It's maybe forty five
seconds or so.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's yeah, it's pretty long.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
There's then there's like The Coaches of the World where
it's the worst. It's just music and trophy, nothing, nothing happening.
You can of course Dahbor got that trophy. Yeah, yeah,
Craig T. Nelson, Yeah I didn't get there.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Once in a while, it just doesn't happen at all.
That that was one of those that's air wolf worthy
one to forget.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I think. Yeah, no more title sequences, right, you had
to bring you had to bring that up since we didn't.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
No, I wanted to really quick say the only one
I could even think of. I thought like the first
season of True Detective, that title sequence was great and
I haven't seen it in years, but I remember being like,
this is worth having spent a minuet on or whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I did like the way they presented it. That's good presentation,
the music set, the stage really will.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's a certain stage. I feel like, if you're going
to spend more than the five second Spencer prefers, you
better have a reason.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, I don't just do that. Here's the cast and
some of the hijinks they're going to get up to.
Don't do that. But they, to be fair, they haven't
done that in a long time. We just covered all
the shows that did, so it feels to us like
that's yeah, we we've covered almost all shows.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
It'd be really fucking weird if they did it on
this show with like jaunty upbeat commercials.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, it's like you know is and then freeze frames
on him.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
He's been shot. I assume you guys would be amenable
to a show trying to bring something like that back
just for nostalgia's sake the kind of show.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
If it's a comedy, Yeah, absolutely you could do that.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I have said this to myself for a long time,
but I think Parks and Rett could have done that.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Sure that would be good because.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
It's so earnest about its characters.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I could actually tolerate it more now if they did
it in a contemporary fashion, I'd like to see how
that got updated. Then then seeing it for the million
time in the eighties, where that's all they ever did it.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Just another problem about the eighties is they didn't change
it season to season. I feel like if you changed
it every season, people will give a shit more.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Every single one was just like, here's our white people,
and then our quirk. So here's alf for here's a
car that talks, or here's a light post that can move, and.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Family matters, like Grandma Winslow is reading this the same
Rolling Stone. Well, let's ever read a different magazine next year,
or at least a different edition, like Belie, it's not
the same one. Yeah, Grandma Winslow was horny too. That's
not just me saying like that is show context.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Okay, so it's two years later and the show that
was our intro we're jumping forward just like they did
in a real show. You know, we got a little
bit of like it's mirroring reality here.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
This was jarring to me. That's just like Boom two
years me too.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I was confused. A young couple are riding around on
I said it was a motorbike because it didn't look
like a motorcycle to me. It's like some kind of
some kind of Korean thing. I don't know what they
have over there.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's like Vespa, but Korea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
So they are immediately apprehended by a couple of traffic cops.
And these aren't just any cops. They are being introduced
for a very obvious reason that we'll soon get to.
The driver was not wearing his helmet. Who does that?
He wasn't wearing his helmet, and he needs people.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
In Surrey now because they repealed the.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Learned that you got to protect. Okay, it's like what
if we all went back to being like, I don't
wear seat belts. I'm pretty cool. So I don't like
to what is that exactly?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Because I said, muchees most shit, that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't find any of it like that difficult, like, no,
it's not belt or whatever. I mean, I just don't
get it. Helmet in any case. In any case I was.
This guy's obviously kind of a rebel. He's not wearing
a helmet. His girlfriend in the back is and uh.
A cop comes up to them and says, it's not
just any cop. But we'll get into that. He says, hey,

(34:55):
you got to wear a helmet. I'm gonna have to
give you a ticket. Is a sturdy hair? I don't know.
There's a little bit a mention of I guess what
squid game is all about, where the guy getting sighted
says like, oh, so you're just gonna make a broke,
innocent civilian pay a fine or something like that, and
there's always references to the working class people are even
less than that.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
In this case, no, And every time I pump my
fists and I say down with the man or.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Sure, they got to get that in there, like, hey,
of course you guys are gonna make me pay. I
didn't do anything. I'm just a poor, unlucky guy. Blah
blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's like if Netflix gave Foo Gossy millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
The cops are not sympathetic. They write him a ticket. Anyway,
His girlfriend attempts to flirt to get out of the
ticket with jung Ho can't blame her.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Says, you're hot, guy's amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I thought this was really funny, like.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
That she's goofy and it is silly.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, and she's assuming cops are so base level that
she could just do that.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I thought that was great. It is, it's it's charming.
I think jung Ho plays it off pretty well, like
how he just completely ignores her and doesn't care. It's see,
it's you know, that's too. The boyfriend is really pissed
off about this because he feels like maybe she really
is interested in jung Ho and he just leaves her
on the motorbike with his ticket.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
And I think being cute there too, though at this.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Point it could be. Yeah, all we see is that
he's just gone and she's screaming at him that he's
an asshole, and and that's our scene. But these cops,
we'll meet them later. We have jung Ho. This is
what he does now, although I don't know if it
says it yet. I don't know if you're supposed to
know that, but I mean that is him, and he's
got a like an apprince you're.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Supposed to because they close it on his face for
too long.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I gotsha. Yeah, it's just hard because when I first
watched the scene, I didn't know that was him. I
had no idea. So you missed the two year jump,
and you just think Jung Ho's in the hospital. So
at this point, we hear a man on the street
call to our police officer who just issued the citation.
He calls him. Does he call him by his name?
Does he say jung Ho? I think he does, but

(36:55):
he calls out to him and then he says, is
this why you transferred into the traffic beat or whatever
he's doing? Is this why you left your your last
position to give out tickets and be called a stupid pig?
Immediately though, as soon as we meet this guy behind
him screaming at him like is this why you took
this position? They we go to a restaurant and they
are seated across from each other. They're eating lunch. Looks good,

(37:17):
it does look good. It looks so good it does.
They're catching up. But this is mostly an exposition dump, honestly,
because we have the we learned this is his former
chief and this is who he worked for when he
was investigating the squid games on his own, like they
didn't send him to do that. He was going rogue
as they.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I wouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Minded if a thing popped up on the screen that
said this is why we have a second season.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
So the chief says, like, look, come back to major crimes.
Is what he was doing before he went to traffic,
and he said, I'm sorry that we couldn't do anything
your the reports. What happened is you know you took pictures.
We never got them, and we can't find your phone,
We can't find the island. We have no evidence and
we need evidence. Firefighters use water to do their job

(38:00):
and we use evidence. Did you ours? So it's a
big lecture.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
These are Korean cops. These aren't American cops. American cops
don't need evidence or any They plant show and they do.
They just hit things.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
What we know in this scene is that Jung Ho
is happy, or so he says. In traffic, he says,
we don't need evidence beyond they ran the red light.
They didn't wear a helmet, and that's good enough for me.
This is where I need to be right now. So
the chiefs attempt to say, hey, we miss you, I
respect you. I'm sorry we couldn't put the frontman away.
Come back, and Jung Hoo says no, and then he says, like,

(38:33):
by the way, this is the key takeaway of this scene,
as he says, you don't know who shot you? This
is where Jung ho has to lie and his eyes
do a like a real obvious kind of no. No,
I don't I have no idea who shot I mean
it wasn't my brother. We should be a real indicator
that he knows the person. Our next scene, we see
a couple trying to get into a motel. There's a

(38:54):
weird argument about whether the light being off means anything,
whether it means no one's there, the boyfriend getting mad.
This whole thing seems to be just to set up
what Jihan's new headquarters is. You know what he's done
since choosing to stay and not go back to the
United States, but stay and hunt down front Man and
get get bust the squid games ring open. He's got
like a little recon facilities where he's got a bunch

(39:16):
of ccurity monitors set up, and he's kind of surveying
the whole area. It's called the Pink Motel is where
he's in, and it is it's a pretty cool place.
And this is kind of his layer.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Now, Hey, Spencer, did you know the giants, that giant
squid have eyeballs that are the same size as a
standard baseball. Oh, that's really big eyeball. That's a big eyeball.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
That's too big of an eye.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Too big of a nye for Royo as well to throw.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
No, he could do it. He could throw a squid's
eye from he's got there.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
He's got country arms.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
So, Spencer, did you know that most of the time
squids are loaners in the water. However, there have been
small groups of them that are identified.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, they seem like loners. Just look at them. There's
no way they're social animals, don't but I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
The squids don't hang out. How They're not like sharing
stuff with their beaks or what.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
The squidz fuck beaks ink?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
They ink at each other's beaks.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, okay, and their baseball eyes.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Did you and I'm not looking at my screen, I
know this is a squid fact. Did you know that
most squid only mate once in their life and then
they die like me, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I think I had heard that, but I forgot about it.
So after the couple does leave, with their argument still happening,
the door starts buzzing as she hunts hideout, just constantly
in a way that would make me very angry if
somebody was ringing the doorbell or beating on the door
at this interval. It's non stop. There's no pause between
it at all.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
It sounds like anxiety induce.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yes, I hate it. It upset me, and it upsets
g Hunt too, but for for different reasons. He reaches
for his gun because he's thinking something is not good
about this, and he goes to the door. It's very tense,
he says, who is it? But no one ever answers that,
and TV show or a movie when someone unknown is
at the door, no one's gonna be like, it's just
a non threatened person back here, you're fining And if

(41:07):
they don't.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
By the way, you guys aren't even opening that door, right,
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
I have someone knock on my door at like nine
o'clock the other night and I didn't get it. What
do you got for me? At nine o'clock or ever.
But I.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
And I was very much listening to an album, and
I was like, you know what I'd rather listen to
than this door the rest of this album.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
So Jihun does not get an answer. He does look
down at the floor and see a familiar business card. However,
you guys probably recognize the card. It's got the PlayStation
logos on a the triangle circle all that. It's the
Squid Games card. The tension's really mounting, and he decides
he's gonna fling that door open and see what's in
front of it. Probably nothing, right, just all that build

(41:46):
up for nothing. No, it's front Man and he's holding
sidebox and song w was head. They're severed heads and
they open their eyes. This seems very dangerous at this time,
and she hun fires. He's decided this is a moment
that I will use my gun repeatedly at front Man,
and he shoots and shoots and shoots to no avail.
That's because it was a nightmare.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
And to his credit that it's okay to shoot your
gun if you open your door and there's someone holding
two separate heads, shoot gut that's.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Got severed heads from me and fire away.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Even before that, I assume you guys agree, like you
were like, this is dream?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Well, yeah, sure, I was just kind of wondering. So
did he also dream about the couple too? That's a
really weird dream which happened, the part where the couple
doesn't outside and they don't want to come in the
they don't know if anyone's in the motel. It seems
like they they led straight from that scene into the
dream sequence. So you're you're wondering, like, so that happened

(42:40):
and then we went into the dream or did Gihon
just have a really boring dream followed by that dream
that came after. Well, it does have the like slight
cepia tone thing, you know, Yeah, I might. It might
have transitioned just subtly. It just just one after the other.
We went straight from the couple to drink drink art.
No sorry, it's not a dunk sound. It's horrible buzz.

(43:03):
So when he wakes, because that was just a dream,
we find out the door actually is buzzing. So it's
one of those things where you know you hear something
in your dream, but it's really happening. I have that
all the time with Cat mouse where it's like this
fucking cat waking me up in my dream, and then
there's really a cat that's doing that. Yeah, there really
is someone at the door, but it's not front Man
holding our friends from season one's head. It's just Kim,

(43:27):
the head of the Loan Sharks from Sunshine Capital, who
they were very bad people in season one and now
they're kind of pals with Jihan, so they're they're working
together now because Jihan is a is he a millionaire?
Is he a billionaire? I don't know. It's one a lot.
He's a billionaire with one and so he's paid off

(43:47):
his debts and then some quite a while ago. And
so Kim, our loan Shark leader guy, is they're on
good terms now and he's actually working with Jihun trying
to find the recruiter. And this is where he is
just stopping in, I guess to visit Gihun. He said, hey,
I've got food and medicine for you. So he's just
it's like a supply run. He's just bringing him some goods.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
It's Robert Forrester bringing the Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus to
Walter White. That's exactly what we're seeing here.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
We have to talk about this all the time, but
it's actually, uh mister mcgoriam's.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Yeah, I'm sticking with what I say every time.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
No, yours is the Heath Ledger thing. Mine is the
thing with Natalie Portman and Dustin Hoffman.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Kim provides a status update of the day's search. It's
a lot like how it's been going for a long
time now. They check subways one through four from ten
am to ten pm. It's a bunch of other it's
a bunch of stuff, and they're not having any luck.
So Jeehan says, well, it just so happens that this
trip end this episode. Now now that we're actually showing

(44:50):
our meetings that we've presumably been having for years, this
particular one is when it's time to start really making
a point to catch him after these two years we've
been searching.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Because he said it was all for we were half asked.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, if I were Kim, I'd be like, okay, why
now are we going all out?

Speaker 2 (45:05):
But well I wanted a way, so it was physically
deteriorated a bit.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Gee Hun says, it was around this time of year
that I ran into the recruiter when he first slapped
me in the face and told me to join the
Squid Games. And if we don't get him now, we
might have to wait a whole other year for this.
So we've we've got to make it happen. It's time
to expand the search, and Kim says like, well, how
are we going to do that. It's gonna take a
lot more resources because g Hun said, we're checking every

(45:32):
single train all day. We're not missing a single one.
And Kim is like, holy shit, we're not.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Gonna be able to do a lot of money, you know, a.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Lot of research to conduct.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Geun just picks up a giant bag of money and
just hands it to Kim and.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Respond slams it on the table.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
So it's so much funny as that, and it's like, Okay,
let's get this done. Then I guess we'll we'll bring
some more guys in on this operation that we're doing.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
One thing I'd love about his character is he kind
of buys into it. And obviously g Hun is correct,
like he knows what he's talking about, but nobody really
believes him. But this guy's like, if anybody's gonna spend
this much money doing something. Something went down, So I
kind of believe him, and I just like that. His
character is almost a little sweet this season.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Kim is likable in this this whole thing. He's like
an ally of g Hun. Now they're friends, they're working together,
and yeah, everyone else says, do you really think this
thing's real? And Kim keeps being like, look, I know
it's fucking crazy, but yes, I think this is happening.
There's a recruiter out there slapping people and giving them
business cards playing Dakshi. Is that how you say it?

(46:40):
Doc gi jacquo, doc Dakshi?

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Because it's like a DJ.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I don't know, I'm doing my best. I don't know
from the worst place. We don't know how to say
words like that where we're all from. Kim returns to
the van with this news and this bag of money,
and there's a group of I guess they're all loan sharks,
but they they work in conjunction with Kim. They're all
under him, and they all they do is betting their
kind of minions. They go out into the world and

(47:06):
collect what's really short. And they were overall.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yellow is the little correction there. They're yellow. Yeah, they
look like a little banana guys.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, all right, well, Kim big on the internet.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Dicks are green so and to be fair to you.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
That's why I thought that that's mostly what we've seen.
We are talking about the loan Shark guys. If the
viewers are yes, viewers, listeners are wondering, yet we're talking
about the loan Sharks.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
They yellow guys, green Dick's that's exactly the yellow.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. We don't. We do not mean
the guys in the band.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
That was not intentional.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Maybe we do. Kim tells the guys in the van,
all right, things are about to get a lot more
serious right now. We're going to have to up our
game and do a lot more searching. The stakes are high.
We got to do this. It's now's your overalls on
and yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
We can do whatever it does. You minions do.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
The groups No, Like, this is stupid. There's nothing out there.
We've been doing it for two years. And Kim says, look,
I know this is what Van was alluding to. Kim says,
I know it sounds crazy, and maybe maybe he is crazy,
but he could be right too, and he's paying all
this money, like van said, I think something's out there,
and by the way, there's a one billion wan reward

(48:19):
for this now, and that gets their attention.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
These are I think this is really similar to what
Tom DeLong from Bleak one eighty two goes through when
he's like, you, guys, there's aliens.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Here's a bunch of money. He tells the group, whoever
finds them, you get half of that one billion one.
The group has a new Peppini step. The van drives
off excitedly that they're totally in. Now they are going
to have to get a lot of other people. This
is like, I don't know ten of them. They have
to bring in a lot new people, but they're I
was impressed they got this many people already though.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
It was like sure, team, because I assume it's so far. Anyway,
they're not making that much money out there. Mostly it's
probably more annoying than anything to search and not find anything.
So yeah, that they're still out there doing it. They're
dedicated people.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Well is able to swim by sucking water into the
mantle cavity. They then remove it through the siphon. This
process continues all day long, even when they're sleeping. You
got sleepy squid in your hands, poor old guy, little bugger.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
We returned to jung Ho for the next scene. So
here he's meeting the sea captain who rescued him originally
after his brother shot him and he fell off a cliff.
This is his rescuer who in a really wholesome way,
has stayed in his life and continues to take him
out into the ocean on voyages to try to find
that island. So they don't know where it is. They

(49:36):
only know where he was found, and there's a bunch
of islands that it could have been where he was discovered.
So they're just kind of taking shots in the dark
at various islands. And they've been doing it for two years,
much like Jihan has been searching for front Man for
a couple of years. So jung Ho is doing his
own search and this is his partner in the process
of doing that. He mentions they've been going for a

(49:58):
year and a half, so not quite two years in
their part, a year and a half. Nothing so far.
They set out on a new journey together to continue
this quest. At Sunshine Capital, the loan Sharks are gathered.
They've got their new minions that are helping them to
apprehend the recruiter. They even have a dummy setup that
shows like, here's what the recruiter would look like if
he were a dummy. And they've gone drawn nice little suit.

(50:22):
And so the guy who's briefing the mall says, he's
you know, here's what you look for when you're out
there in the world looking for the recruiter. We got
a tall guy, he's probably over six feet. It's good looking.
He's where he's going to be in a nice suit.
He's always got a briefcase. Inside that briefcase is some
dock sheet and a whole bunch of money. He gives
them the business card. You guys know that business card,

(50:43):
and they say, when you see this card, take a picture,
call the number that we gave you to reach us
and let us know where you are.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
They bring up the group chat and I don't know,
it just kind of struck me as cute.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
So Kim hands out the assignments. The leader, the loan
shark guy, Kemy, says, here's where everyone's gonna go. Don't
skip a single station because they have to be exhaustive
in their search. The group eagerly departs there's a lot
of really excited guys. They think they're all going to
get five hundred million one and the only one of
them could. Kim calls Jihun and says, we're underway. We're

(51:16):
out here doing your bidding. We're gonna find him, and
Gi Hun says, good, I am ready. I have fourteen tablets.
I'm monitoring the whole thing. Just give me a call
whenever you guys find him, and I will be there.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
On that roof looking for you.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I don't know crush, So here we que. Our montage
scene just cuts between Jihun and their search and Young
Ho and their search. So Jung Ho is out in
the ocean, Jihun and his people are pound in the streets.
They're on the subways. They're trying to find their recruiter
while Jung Ho tries to find the island. They're both

(51:52):
doing their thing. There's music playing, the days are going by.
We see the calendar. They did try to make it contemporary,
and they tried to make it somewhat nuanced, but it
is such a just a montage scene like you've seen
every time that they do this kind of the same episode.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
If it has a really big fault to me, it's
that it just really wants you to get to the
second one.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Lot a setup. As the days go by and August
is upon them, neither side has been successful in their search.
As you can imagine, things are getting worse. You can
see the storms battering the ship. That there's loan sharks
that are getting tired of moving through the subways and
not finding anything. They feel like this is a target
we're never going to find. The fatigue is setting in.
They were excited at first, they're not anymore. Everyone's getting frustrated.

(52:36):
The sea captain is especially fed up. He has kind
of a little bit of a meltdown on the boat
and says, there's like hundreds of islands in a six
mile radius where I picked you up. It's impossible to
do this. Why I'm just now getting mad about it
after a year and a half, I don't know, but
I am really mad and I'm sick of it. And
John Ho says it's such a convenient time for everyone

(52:59):
to be like, oh oh, no more plot device. So
Jung Ho says Sea Captain, You're right, I don't think
we should do this anymore. We should make this our
last search. The Sea Captain's kind of like what no, No, Like,
let's not we don't need to quit. I was just benting.
I like you, I like hanging out with you. I'm sorry,
you're not going to be coming by anymore.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Like, okay, I got a lot of it out so
I can continue to look for this mysterious island.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
We're bonding. I'm complaining. It's how this works.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
He even offers Young Ho a job on the ship
if he's like, if we're not going to do this anymore,
come help me catch squids. I think he says, like
he's like, I'll pay you more than you're making as
a cop. They like each other, they're fond of each other.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Good buds. He's my favorite new character so far.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah Sea Captains. Yeah, So finally, after all of this
searching unsuccessfully, Kim and Choi and they're pairing. They do
have a breakthrough. Choi is one of the primary of
Kim's right hand men. They actually have become friends over
the years. It's a sweet little story. Kim officiated his
wedding apparently, so it started kind of like I think

(54:02):
he and g Hun did, where they were adversaries and
he was collecting a debt, and then at some point
maybe Troy was just an employee, but over time they
have become friends, so they actually do know each other
and care about each other. And this is a fun
little pairing that we get to see more of than
the other part of the team out there searching as well.
It is these two who have the breakthrough. As they're
They're sitting side by side in another subway, another summer

(54:25):
day searching in the subways, and Choy's bitching about the food.
He's like a construction workers eat better than this, and
then Kim's like, you ungrateful, son of a bitch, and.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Then their food always looks so good like Korean staffs.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I was totally I thought Kim reading his lines and
just develouring his food was really enjoyable. I just thought
that was well done.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
The other guy is, I don't know what it's called
Korea boots on a giddy or Onna Gotti, I can't remember.
In Japanese the rice ball thing old with seaweed. Those
are so good.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah, I was totally that in my face. Right now,
I take one while Kim is scolding Choi for being ungrateful.
It's like, at least you have a job where you know,
we're working through the summer. Who cares We're gonna find
him eventually. We got another thing. This is like they've
kind of gone to this well too many times now,
where Choi is like, you think this is real, you
think she Hun's crazy, and okay, we get it. Kim's

(55:21):
on his side, so he says it again. In the
middle of them bickering, you hear the smack of a
doc g whatever they are, a doc G hitting the ground.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
That's really what it is. It's POGs, POGs. It's what
you do with pugs. You throw it one and it bounces.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I don't think so I didn't see al for shack On.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
It's like a mixture of a bean bag and a
pog because they look like bean bags to me. So
Kim calls Gihan to let him know that they found
their guy. He provides the location and Geehun's on the way.
He's like, fuck, yeah, I'll be right there.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
No, it's more like i'll be there after quite some time.
He keeps saying like I'm gonna hurrying rush there. I'll
be right there. And we got like thirty minutes of
the episode in.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Gotta build man doing also like I don't know, right,
he's been waiting for this moment for two years and
he's like, okay, all right, and then doesn't get there.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I'm gonna go thirty five all the way there.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Briefly, we learn a little bit about the character who's
playing Dakshi with the recruiter. It's just a short cutaway guy. Yeah,
which I didn't really notice that much about it, like
you guys did. I guess his hat was memorable.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
The lead singer of Weedest teenage dirt Bag, right, yeah,
that guy.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Yeah. So the man who gets the business card, he
does beat the recruiter, and the recruiter says, good job.
You can play in the quick games like Jihan experienced that.
One time he's looking at the card, his phone starts buzzing.
He gets a call from who we discover is his
love interest, who appears to be at a gynecology in
obstetric's office. So she's on the other end of the

(56:53):
phone and we flash to her. She does not get
an answer, but we do see when we see her
in the office waiting for her appointment that she also
has this business card. I guess she also played I
don't know, but she's got the same card that her
love interest has. They don't speak, but she they're both
looking at the same business card, so it looks to
me like they are both interested in the squid Games.

(57:14):
And then instead of staying for her appointment, when the
medical assistant, the attendant whatever, the lady comes out to
call her name and say, hey, your appointment, it's time,
she's not. There's less. She's got to give birth to
a squid. Yeah, she doesn't need the care for her
unborn child because she's got to go into the squid games.
I think is what we're getting here.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, we've all been there, like a lot of times.
I'm thinking about doing something. I'm like, ah with games.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
So now we have the setup here. We have two
characters we haven't yet met, but they have been impacted
by the recruiter and they are possibly going to be
in the rest of the show.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Although think about the time, I'm curious of having watched
the whole season, do you like them?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I want to know. I want to know what's going
on here.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
I feel like we're just setting up the characters to
be in the squid game. So I have no opinion yet.
Other than that bucket hat like bucket hat, well, you know,
he dies.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
It makes you think a buckethead who releases seventy four
albums a year of aimless guitar music.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I did like the touch that she's at the obstetrics appointment.
I thought that was interesting because obviously she's dealing with
something in her personal situation while doing the squid game.
So I thought it was just tantalizing enough. And then
of course this is all we see for this episode
of these two.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, oh yeah, they're done after this, but they'll be back.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
So with the search for the recruiter having had a breakthrough,
we get to see what the recruiter is actually up
to and what he goes what he does when he
goes about his day, we get a little whimsical music
actually playing in the background. He is going around buying
some stuff in bulk, namely bread and scratcher tickets. This
is the title of the episode that we're getting the

(58:56):
theme right here, just by the whole bunch of bread.
It looks really good, it's it looks kind of moist,
and then a bunch of Scotcher tickets, which the guy
behind the counter gives them some shit for, which.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Is why this is not realistic. If this were realistic,
that clerk has seen people come in hundreds of times
and buy hundreds of dollars worth of scratcher tickets. Because
the scratcher people are nuts and they do that, they'll
buy it the whole roll and win five hundred dollars,
except they spent two thousand to get there. They're like, hell, yeah,
I won.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
It's all three of us have worked at establishments that
enable slot style gambling. It is depressing. I'm thinking of
Roni Uzel. That's a deep cut.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
For Brian Smith.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
He listens to this sometimes, so he's carrying his signature
briefcase because that's what the recruiter does. He goes around
in his briefcase everywhere, and I do love briefcases. I
can't fault him for this. His is also a fund
don't have caase I just think they're cool. As we
will later see he doesn't. He's not just decoration. This
briefcase isn't multi use. So he walks right past Kim

(59:58):
and Choi after he buys this stuf. They're on their
steake out there waiting for him to come back out.
He is headed for the park, and Kim calls Jhan
with yet another update because, as you know Van mentioned earlier,
Jehan is supposed to be on the way, but continues
to need to get updates as to where the recruiter
is all this time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Did you guys wonder why he isn't more actively involved
in this process right now?

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Like, I know, he's sort of the HQ of the
whole thing, but he could also just be there, like
he suspects.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Where he doesn't get out, he hides and stays. He's
a pay hotel. That's why he's got all the security cameras,
so I don't think he would get I guess he's
on that roof though.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, and he pulled the thing out of his fucking
head and bled everywhere, so I guess like he has
reason to think like he he also has four hundred
billion currency units on, so like he he knows that
he's kind of, you know, being hunted.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
So yeah, Okay. At the park, the recruiter approaches a
man sleeping on a bench. He's clearly down on his luck.
He offers the man the same choice that he's about
to offer everyone else in this situation in the park,
So he holds out the bread, he holds out the
scratcher tickets. It looks like because the man on the
bench thinks, like, this is a great pairing. I'm being

(01:01:14):
offered right now, Like I wake up from my nap
in public, I'm getting a scratcher ticket and a meal.
That's amazing, I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Can eat gamble.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Hell yeah, the recruiter says, that's the whole city I
live in. That's true, or don't live in. It's possible,
you do, impossible, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
I could be I'm talking about Miama, Oklahoma, or Joplin, Missouri.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Who knows. Yeah, Jordan. So this is the choice that
every one of these people gets bread or scratcher ticket.
And as you guys know and would have guessed many
many of them pick the scratcher ticket. And none of
them win, of course, but most of them would rather
take a chance on changing their luck than having their

(01:01:58):
next meal. I don't like that none of them won.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Yeah, that is not realistic. Someone would win three dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yeah, and as they're scratchers, we see them and there
are three things, and it's like get a seven to
seven to seven. So in that style of game, you
don't have one winner. Take all and then six thousand losers,
you have a couple of little winners. So I kind
of feel the same way. Yeah, somebody should have won
three bucks too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
I get the point they're trying to make, but like
someone should have won, and I feel like a point
should have been made about that too, you know, in
a certain way of like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
That and that even that's not really a victory.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Yeah, you're temporarily abating a problem, you're not actually solving any.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
So when the recruiter is finished giving everyone their choice,
and only we only see one person take the bread
of everyone, he goes up to so for the most
part there there's the entire supply of bread that the
recruiter bought is completely untouched. It's a lot of bread,
and it looks very good. I wanted it so bad
I put in the oven and put butter on it.
After the recruiter gives everyone the chance, he goes and

(01:03:01):
he stands in the middle. This is a public place,
they can all see him. He goes to where he's
very visible. He dumps all of the bread onto the ground,
and doing that has immediately freaked all these very hungry
people out. Just at that, saying like please don't waste
this food, this perfectly good the recruiter. This is his
moment to shine. I was telling you guys, this is
the scene that I like the most of him. This

(01:03:23):
is the only time we see the recruiter lose his composure.
The entire episode, he's pretty calm. This is the one
time he's not. He puts the food on the ground
and then just goes and sane, stepping on it as
hard as he can. His hair gets all messed up,
he's like making squealing noises. He's just he's all worked up,
and he's panting and sweating. He really means this with

(01:03:45):
his whole heart as he's smashing this bread in the
ground beneath him, to everyone's horror. Because this food it's gone.
So the recruiter says, is a big burn to these
men who are just very impoverished in terrible situations. He said,
as I didn't waste perfectly good food. You did because
you had the chance to eat it and you didn't

(01:04:06):
want it. You'd gambled instead. So I didn't do this.
You did this to yourself. So after doing this incredibly
fucked up social experiment and then destroying the food in
front of everyone. He's done. He's departing the scene. He's done.
He's had his moment now and we cut to g Hun,
who is he seems to be in a hurry and
he has actually been driving so fast in fact, that

(01:04:29):
he's getting pulled over. What two cops would be just
the right ones to pull gee hunt over. Well, let's
bring back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
It's sink Nolty Eddie Murphy from forty eight hours.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Let's bring back our first two cops that we opened
the episode with Jong Ho and his young naive apprentice
partner Fellow. It's young Ho who.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Is letting take the ropes here yo yo to his homes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah, hey, yeah, absolutely, they're going to get a donut
for like what was that five cents?

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
There's the seven cents and in like a twenty cent coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I've never lived in a city redacted that has so
many donut shops.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
By the way, it's donut shops everywhere. Jung Ho lets
his younger Printice take over here. He's like, you can
do this. You need to get some practice.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Okay. I did think that was a nice little twist
because they're setting it up to where John was gonna
just walk he's gonna see you. It's so it's gonna be.
And then he's like, at the last Paul second, why
don't you take this one, buddy? I I kind of
liked it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Jie Hun is not really making a lot of eye
contact here. He looks straight ahead, which is kind of
how I behaved the last time I got a speeding ticket,
where I just kind of didn't acknowledge him, didn't say
much of anything. This just it's like six months ago,
maybe maybe like six It is probably last November when
I drove to Texas, so it was, Oh, that's right,
it was not long ago, but I got I'm just

(01:05:48):
shouting people out left. He's probably not gonna listen, but none.
I've never met Oran, and that's a shame. Oran. I'd
like to meet you. I have to tell him to
listen to this for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Call the Arms Senator Orrin Half. She's who you guys
are talking about him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yes, no, Spencer's cousin is not one hundred and forty
eight years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
So Jiehun he's just kind of going along with his fade.
He's not saying much. It could be I guess he
doesn't really want to draw attention to himself, I guess,
so he doesn't have anything to say to this ticket process.
And this is just a brief cut. We don't see
the whole thing yet because I say a lot though
he is. Oh, they mad. They got to go back
to the recruiter. He's leaving the park, and Kim and

(01:06:26):
choy a scrambling because they got a Jihan's not here
and they got to keep the trail active. So they
place a frantic call to Jihun saying, come on, hurry up.
He's leaving, and they have to jump into a cab
to follow the recruiter and his cab wherever he's going. Meanwhile,
Jihan is getting his ticket. This is all happening simultaneously.

(01:06:47):
So Jehan gets his ticket, snatches it from the young
officer's hand as soon as he gets it, and just
immediately squeals tires, driving off as fast as he can,
trying to get to the recruiter. So jung Ho approaches
the young guy says, like, it was fast. What happened?
Do you do it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
You jumping up?

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Yeah? It's like did you do everything right? Is how
he says it, And the officer says, I mean yeah,
he just took his ticket and drove off. He didn't
say anything, and that's when jung Ho says, that's suspicious,
which I thought, like, no I did that, Like I
didn't say anything to the cop when he gave me
my ticket. What are you going to say? Jung Ho
is very curious. He's like, whether we think that this
is suspicious or not? It's not. Jung Ho thinks it

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is and says like, well, let me take a look
at this, because he asked him, did you pull the record?
The officer says, yeah, there's nothing on it. He doesn't
have anything on his record. He just drove up without
saying anything. Jung Ho looks at his name, sees g
Hun and we get a moment of realization. Here there's
it's just in jung Ho's eyes. These character paths they're
about to collide. It's going to be a big moment

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in the show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Might well be Campbell and Battlefield for the intersection it is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
That's a nice Springfield, Missouri reference, which you might still
live in my ms. Jung Ho ismporarily out of the picture.
We've seen enough to know what's going to happen with that.
We have to go back and we have to follow
Kim and Choi again because they are on the recruiter's tail.
They have him what they think to be cornered in
Ali and Jiehan's nowhere. He's just not coming. They've waited

(01:08:15):
and they've decided they're going to have to take matters
into their own hands here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
So it's a sting. He's really tantric. He's just not coming.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
They decide. They decide, like, look it's Kim tries to
tell Choi. He's like, look, you trust me, I'll give
you your half of the money. I officiate your wedding.
It's two of us. There's just one of him. We
can take him. They go in in the alleyway after him,
and they don't take him. It doesn't go well at all.
Kim is dispatched immediately, and then it leaves Choi to

(01:08:44):
fight him off. He tries to get his knife out
and fight him, but the recruiter is just too tough
and he beats the shit out of him, hits him
in the head with his briefcase. Like we mentioned, we
said the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Prison like this, or say, is this too much for
that character?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I mean, it's it's something that they probably didn't have
to do this way, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Yeah it was. It felt egregious, but.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
I thought so I'm not. But it's like, why is
he a badass?

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
I guess they had because he's not. He is a
little fucking like mental weasel. I guess they had to
to get him to get the information on Jihuns somehow,
so they had to do something with this physically overpowering them.
It's just how it worked. Apparently, at the police station,
Jung Ho is searching Jihun's information that he's just come across.

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He sees Ji Hun's picture in the file and connects
the dots. Because these two did meet in season one, briefly,
they came face to face when Jung Ho was saying, hey,
can you help me find my brother? So we get
that scene. We know they met each other before he runs.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
So that was early in season one, right. That wasn't
after Jihunit already was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
It was pretty I think it was when Jehun was
in between trips there, right, because.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
When they went and voted to get off right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
And then he changed his mind as I'm going back,
So it would have been I think season or episode
two maybe it would have been like this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Too, like, I like this added detail to something we
kind of knew.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Yeah, it's a nice little flashback reference there. So they
did meet once, and Jung Ho remembers, so he runs
the plates. He determines the car that Jee Hun was
driving came from a rental company Okay Gas, so he
has another lead to follow up on here. As for
Gee Hun, he finally has arrived at the park that

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Kim and Choi were at hours ago, like just forever.
It hasn't been hours, but it feels like it. He's
just now getting there. He tries calling Kim's number, it
goes straight to voicemail. That's never a good thing. So
there's no sign of any of them there, but he
does go in the alleyway. He does see the blood
on the trash bag. He sees the knife on the

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sewer grat, so he's got an Dylan album from the sixties.
He's got an idea that something went down here with
the recruiter, and it's not good because he can't get
hold of Kim or Choi. Meanwhiley we find out from
watching from above, like a really good vantage view unseen
on a nearby building, it's a recruiter he's just up

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there watching jihun way below him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Would have looked around, you might have seen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Him in this scene.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
I hate this guy because this is like Superman shit,
Like do you guys know what I mean? Like, I
like that he's fallible and that comes up later big time.
But in this scene, he's like omnipresent and why are
you here? Why are you not watching his squid game
on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
He's impossible to stop, so I Meanwhile, Jung ho is
following up on his lead that we just talked about.
He's at the car rental agency. There's a woman behind
the desk. She tells him, Hey, this particular car rented
by a company called Sunshine Capital. Jung Hoo asks for
the address. So he's been successful in his lead. We're
threading his plot in there. Now we know where his

(01:11:51):
next step is going to be. Next, we're back with
the recruiter and we can decide how much we want
to get into this scene, how detail we want to
get with it. It's quite tense. He's got his new captives.
They're bound and gagged and they're sitting across from each other.
The recruiter is having a great time. He puts on
a record. It's got like an ominous melody in the backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I do this all the time. He was a cool
record player. Yeah, I wanted it so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
He tells Kim and Choi they're going to play a
game called rock paper Scissors minus one, which I had
not heard of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
It's called it's called Russian Roulette.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
He's also mixing in another game that Brian just said
called Russian Roulette. Because the loser yourself in the head,
I love it, is what he's saying. The loser of
this Rock Paper Scissors minus one they get to do
a round of Russian Roulette. So he cheerfully describes Russian
Roulette in a way that I've never thought of before,
which is that at least your odds of survival or

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five of six every time you shoot it. That is
so stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
You know what your odds are of survival other than
that way higher? Yeah, like he's phrasing it is some
sort of like virtuous thing. By participating in it, you
like get something out of it. And I don't know,
this is the sort of like villain celebration. I don't
necessarily like in shows.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
He's over the time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Does this make sense to you guys, do do you
understand what I'm saying, Like it's sort of like heralding
him as some sort of like cool guy, and I
don't really like that. I like the parts where he's
a loser and that comes up later.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I do think that they've reached the point where they're
really given him his moment, and you know, this is
obviously he's the star of this episode kind of, so
they really gave him a lot, and he's he's got
quite a backstory, maybe a little more than he should
have had as just a humble recruiter type.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
One of my favorite things about like Murderer movies that
do it right, like like in seven, is Kevin Spacey
is a big loser, like in real life.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
You never empathize.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I don't want to have to empathize with this guy,
and the show tries to make him cool a little bit,
and I don't necessarily like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Lots of survival being five or six is still pretty scary.
And that's kind of what we see here, which is
that CHOI, who goes first, is he's so nervous that
this rock paper scissors thing, he can't even get his
hands to make the shapes the recruiter says that this
disqualifies Choi and the first round here because he did
not he did not do what he has to do,

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so he loses. Automatically, he gets fired on. The gun
clicks empty because again there was only a one in
six chance that it would shoot him, and it didn't.
They start a new round. Choi does win this one,
but again the gun clicks empty when the recruiter fires
at Kim. Choi loses the next round and again survives
the tuggar being pulled. He goes back and forth. They're

(01:14:39):
both living through those one in six odds for now,
So of course the recruiters had enough of tormenting them
at this level and now decides let's get this thing
over with and says, what if we reverse the odds
and we say, instead of one and six chance of dying,
it's a one and six chance of survival, so we'll
do that instead, and puts fire bullets in the gun,

(01:14:59):
leaves only one blank spot. What happens next is he
makes them pick up the speed too, so they're throwing
their hands together very quickly, and they both know who
who loses next is gonna die. It's a five and
six chance they're gonna die. So the characters are sobbing,
they're throwing their hands together, trying to do desperately do
the rock paper scissors game. It's very it is tense.

(01:15:21):
I will say it's upsetting. It's tense. Eventually, Kim is
disqualified because he fails to take one away. So I
don't even understand how the game works that when you
take one away, but he doesn't react quick enough. I
guess that he has both his hands out, so he
loses by disqualification and that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Oh yeah, And it's the whole thing, is he he's
in control now because the other guy put his two down.
He has no chance of winning. So all he has
to do is pull one arm back no matter what,
and he's won. And to do that would mean he's
killing the other person. Essentially, he can't bring himself to
do it, so he just freezes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
That makes sense. I didn't even pick that up. I
thought he just he froze on a his own, like
just couldn't go through with it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
No, he's a real person, so he's not willing to
let someone else take that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
And again, we have to appreciate Kim in this moment here,
he's a. He's a likable guy for what we get
of him, which is about to be done. Because these
low odds of survival we talked about that the one
in six, it doesn't work. He does get shot. The
recruiter congratulates Choi on his win and says, all right,
now that that's done, do you have a moment to talk.

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So Choi, of course is all upset, crying, and his
friend just died right in front of him. He's gotten
a choice, he says, yes, He's gonna have to tell
the recruiter what he wants to know. Back to Sunshine Capital,
love that place, Let's go there. Jung Ho finds the
main entrance chained up, so like anyone, he just climbs

(01:16:50):
a building and enters through a window because he's like,
he's just scoots right up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Ittua just goes right up third floor.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Okay, one thing you just stole. Think it was gonna say, man,
and number two, how long would it take for you
at all to train to do this?

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Couldn't years? It would it be possible at all?

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
I don't know. Maybe maybe like no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Maybe like ten fifteen years ago, but not not now.
It'd be like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
I was able to get good at bowling. I don't
think I could scale a building.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Yeah I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
It was so light. I bet I could do it
back then, years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
But oh yeah, no, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
A Van was once a six four ninety four pounds
at one time, and I think he could have gotten
up there like an earthworm gym type at that time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
I was just never into the rock climbing sort of
thing that some people say it was. They really good
for your actual strength, which I never really had. You know,
I'd been to the gym, but I never had strength
you could use ever you were the strongest of the thing.
I wasn't strong though. It's like it's it's the cosmetic thing,
you know, where it was. It's not like I was
rep let's not put that out there. But if I
had muscles, it was like I can't use these things

(01:18:00):
like I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Was not functional, yeah at all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
I was never strong. It was just like I don't
I don't know how to train for like actual like
if I were to be in the NFL or so,
I don't know how to do that. So I probably
could never have climbed very well. Even the youngest.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Strongest I've ever been, I looked disgusting because it was
when I worked in a warehouse.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Oh yeah, and you actually were physically like I was
strong back, the pretty fucking strong.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
But I was also eating a lot of taco bell
and drinking an amount of alcohol that was like not cool.
So the combination of that was I was like five
eleven to twenty and I looked like garbage. But I
was probably in better shape than I am now, being
five eleven forty four pounds.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
That's what's That's what's interesting about like actual strength is
you can't necessarily see it so much in someone. I
mean sometimes you can, but.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
It's like those tree trunk guys. There was a strong ones,
not the big like Schwartzenegger buff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Yeah, it's like the Power Team.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Just like the Power Team, those guys didn't look like Schwarzenegger.
They look like trees. Yeah, and like toilets.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I don't know what you guys think, but I'm not
like super into dream breaking. I'm more like a moral
endo dream making.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Yeah that's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
So young Ho is quite the climber better than we are,
also a successful Korean model. Let's remember that about Jung Ho.
He's a lot of super hot. We talked about it before.
I feel like he deserves mentioning.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
You like to address it on the show when dudes
specifically or hot, because like you don't hear that that much,
like dude's being like, no, that guy's hot. Well, and
I have a question for you, guys hot at Sky.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
We've covered on the podcast. Who is he? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
God, I still think it's a brother from Beef. That's
a good looking guy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Guy is really fit as far as leading men Hasselhoff, Yes, right,
I mean in his prime, certainly he was. He was
a specimen. I would say a Willie ta is the
true answer? Bird man, we've kind of quick.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Male body is that bird crouched up on the thing squawking?

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I respect these answers, but the answer is, have any
of these people married Shannon Elizabeth, the American pie queen
of our childhood? No, but you know who asked Tommy Keating?

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Oh that's right, yeah, with his leather jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
What if Roger Klants was real?

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Good looking dude? Uh bacon hair.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Yes, bacon hair. He smoked so many cigarettes. He's the
only thirty seven year old teenager.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
I think that's real. By the way, I think we
looked up all these ways.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Yeah, yeah, he was thirty seven playing a teenager.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
The young Ho finds the mannequin we talked about of
the recruiter's he's in the setup that we were just
looking at with all the lone shark people. He's he's there,
except they're all gone, so he's got the place to himself,
and he's like, it's time to do some police work here.
This is jung Ho unable to resist the call of
his old job in major crimes. Like this isn't traffic

(01:21:02):
cop stuff. He's doing right here, guys, But he's not
really a traffic cop. That's not jung Ho. He's just
unable to resist the call of the investigation and kind
of going off and doing his own thing. He's a
loose cannon, but he gets results.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
About the next episode, he has a really great moment.
You guys all both pump your fists in the air.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
One of the employees what the loan sharkers he's returning
to the office. But this is one of those things
where very fortunately for Jung Ho, who is there breaking
and entering and investigating without a warrant. This guy is
very loud before he comes in the room, so he's
he's talking on the phone. He's broadcasting everything that would
be important for his young hoe to know. So Jungko

(01:21:42):
has a chance to hide number one and number two.
He also overhears some pretty critical information that is just
very convenient that tells them where to go. They haven't
heard from the boss, they don't know where either one
of Choy or Kim is. They're going to scrap their
plans and they're all going to meet together and they
think something might be wrong, so they're going to empty
out the weapons supply. And that's what this employee, the

(01:22:03):
stray employee that's returning to the facility is doing, is
he's there to be like, hey, I need to get
all these guns and we need to go meet together
and figure out what's going on. He empties all these
guns out of the like a filing cabinet sort of white.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Like that, like it's the finaling cabinet you find anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
And then that's pretty much all he's there for. So
Jung Ho is able to hear all this stay hidden
and he's not he's not spotted, and the employee does
leave at that point, so once again Jung Ho can
continue to snoop he has this new information and he's
able to go through Sunshine Capital at his leisure once again.
So he finds additional documentation regarding Jihun, including the paper

(01:22:42):
trail that actually shows his residence, and that's where now
Jung Ho knows about the Pink Motel, and we also
know that that's what the recruiter had gotten out of
Choi in the last scene. So now we've got the
recruiter who knows where Jihan is, and we've got Jung
Ho knowing where Jehan is. So everyone's gonna be converging

(01:23:02):
on the Pink Hotel for our climacic scene here that's
coming up, and that actually is that's all Jong Hoo
has to do here. He we just needed to get
him to the Pink Hotel, and now that that's accomplished,
that's where we go. This is a good climax though,
right it is?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
I just do you introduced the second episode with like
a bunch of people converging on the same location.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Sure, I just I don't want more Russian roulette, which
is what we're getting here. Like that's the thing. It
was like, we don't do this again. Right after we
just finished that last one, and you're gonna get more,
by the way, guys, I'm sure I will so naturally,
the recruiter is lying in wait. When Jihan returns home.
You had to know this was the big episode showdown

(01:23:42):
coming up right here.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
And Gehu knows it as well, sure, and sees the signs.
So yeah, he's beaten and dejected, but you know what
it's here. Let's just let's see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
You guys think he understands something about the recruiter here though,
like an insecurity.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
He seems to because they spar a little. There's a
little bit of cat and mouse like Colombo does with
the murderers, where they kind of tear at each other
a little bit. They try to just one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
More thing, and the recruiter is also making an omelet
when he came in as well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Donald Pleasant is involved. I wish it fucking only Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
So lin ji Hun comes in, the recruiter tells him,
looks like you've been working pretty hard trying to find me,
because he sees the calendar, he sees all the documentation
g Hun's been collecting, and Geehun he's ready. He's sparring
right out the gate, says I wanted to thank you.
I was looking for you just to say thanks. Because
of you, I won the squid games, I got a
fortune to my name. Seems like the only decent thing

(01:24:37):
to do is thank you. The recruiter says, Honestly, I'm
not the guy to think I'm just a messenger. I
just pass on the invitations. And Gehn says, that's fine,
So let me speak to the top dog. Give me
your master. You're just the dog. I want your master.
And the recruiter says, why don't I just tell you?
Why don't you just tell me and I'll go. I'll
let them know for you. I'll bring it to them

(01:24:59):
as the messenger that I am. Geehun says, ah, you know,
I don't think I can waste this on an underling
like you, so that I'm not going to give you
the message. I need to see them directly myself. They're
simmering right now. They don't like each other, they have
their arguments with each other, and it's all coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Their relationship is really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
It is. We do get a little brief backstory on
the recruiter here. It's just I guess if you guys
wanted to know it right before we have to say
goodbye to the recruiter. Here's how it all came to
be for him is he just started working at the games,
burning the bonnies and eventually worked his way up. They
gave him a gun. He liked the gun. It's not
surprising he found he was especially suited for the job,

(01:25:41):
especially when Yeah, just like cleonn Eastwood. It turns out
one of the men he had to shoot was his
own father, who pleaded for his life, and the recruiter
found that he didn't care, and he just went ahead
and shot his own father right in the head and
felt nothing about it and realized that this is my
kind of work.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
So he just good my job, real renegade.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
He's a fast riser guy, is the recruiter. He's found
his calling and he just he made his way from
there and just kept working his way up, and eventually
they told him to be the recruiter. And this is
his final form, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
So he makes it just fine as Final Pokemon evolution exactly.
He's starting out as a square and all you become
a war turtle and then a blast toys.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
In this sparring session here the recruiter makes it clear
that he still sees Jihan as the same kind of
he thinks of all the participants in the games is
they're just human garbage.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
They're trash.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
And he tells Jehan, you're no different just because you won,
I still think you're trash. You're just like the rest
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Yeah, he says something like you're the piece of garbage
that fell out of the trash. Doesn't make you any better.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
This guy, like I kind of get it. I feel like,
you know, Jehan didn't really do anything to win the games.
That's he's right about that, Like he doesn't have like
a bragging right or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
You guys are scrambling for money, and like Yoush just
stand up to these guys and like me, U, I
understand why you're getting in there, because it's like you're
fucked for the rest of your life, you know, financially.
But this guy has like a purest standpoint of like
don't sell yourself out like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
The recruiters being menacing, but you know, and Jiehun knows
that he's not gonna just kill him in cold blood.
He didn't show up at his apartment to gun him down.
There's gonna be a whole thing. So what he does
is he does he suggests another round of Russian Roulette,
which we talked about. We said this is coming briefly
in the middle of all this, we do have a
quick cut of jung Ho arriving. So he's pulled up

(01:27:36):
to the Pink Hotel. He's connected the dots and he's
arrived on scene as well. Inside though it is still
it's just Jihan and the recruiter and they're gonna be
finishing this out, just the two of them. So the
recruiter has a spin on this version of Russian Roulette,
so mercifully it's gonna It's not gonna go on forever.
It's just you. Normally, you you fire, it's the one

(01:27:57):
and six chance, the bullet goes off, and then you
reset it so you get that one in six again.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
And in this space, I don't think that's the normal.
I think what they're going with is what normal is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Yeah, because I think it's supposed to advance. I think
it's supposed to advance, and each time it doesn't happen,
you're that much closer. But he was saying, I thought, yeah,
it could go on forever if if you do, just
keep resetting it, then you really do get those one
in six odds, although eventually sample size, you know, eventually
you're gonna get the one in six if you do
it for like long enough.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Eventually John Jaha is going to walk, you know, sample size.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
So he wants to play without reloading the cylinder between shots,
so that the odds don't reset. The gun's going to fire.
It's it's a certainty it's going to fire between one
and six shots, and there's no mathematical argument to that.
Of course, we're about to find out that the show
could not help but give us the one in six chance.
On the extreme side that it takes all six shots
for it to go off. But in theory it could

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happen on any one of them, including the first, which
would have been really antichlom acting. I mean, and I
would say, unless it was, I would have never expected that.
I didn't mention this. But the recruiter actually demonstrates to
Choi and Kim by shooting at his own head when
he's like, we're gonna play Russianroulette when he has the

(01:29:12):
one and six chance. He could have died. Then when
he was explaining the game to him. You know, he's
taking that chance. Yeah, this scene it happening to Jihan
on the first shot. It's really funny and I didn't
think about that until now, so I'm laughing. So we
know what's happening between one and six shots, we just
don't know when Jihan actually gets to go first, which

(01:29:35):
I was mathematically thinking, that's a really fortunate thing. You
want to be the one who goes first in the
situation so you can get the lower odds on each turn.
So he gets to go first. The gun clicks, the
recruiter leaps at the gun to take his turn. He
just grabs that thing. He grits his teeth and yeah,
he shoots it. Click, same thing, Nothing happened.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
I st like that though, like if you're gonna have
this guy be an aggressive guy like that, like have
him be like willing to die.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
And he is.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Yes, So the recruiter and the before the third shot,
when it's Jihun's turn again, the recruiter starts the trash talk,
the psychological warfare, and he says, you know, I'm actually surprised.
I'm surprised that you won the games. You know, you're
really bad at Dakshi just throwing that in there, so
Jehan ignores him. He takes his turn. It's another click.

(01:30:26):
Then that were three shots in the odds are down
to one and three for the recruiter who's going to
take his turn now, and he knows this. The recruiter
knows I think already one in three. He thinks I'm
probably gonna die in this turn, so he just really
embellishes this and leans all the way into Jihun and
puts the gun in his mouth like inji Hun's face

(01:30:46):
pretty much, and he takes his turn. It's another click.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
This is, by the way, wouldn't you guys also do this, Like,
wouldn't you just assume you're dad?

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Yes, every single shot, even on one and six, I'm
thinking that's it. When g Hunt takes the gun back,
the recruise tells him odds are one and two now,
so you know what you can do. You can turn
this gun on me, click the trigger twice at the most,
and you shoot me. I'm dead. The key that you
need to get to the guy you're looking for is
in my pocket. You can you have what you need.

(01:31:16):
Just go ahead and shoot me. But if you do,
you're gonna have to admit before you do it that
you are the same You're the same kind of trash
that everyone else in the games are. G Hunt can't
take that. He's not gonna be able to do that,
so he refuses, and he takes this turn and it's
a click. So now we've used all five of the
shots that could possibly have not been a bullet. There's

(01:31:37):
only one left anti capitalist stance I have to take.
There's a shock, right, go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
I hate the I actually like it in context of
the show, of the disingenuous nature of like this is
on you. You're the same trash that's accepting my handouts, right,
and it's like you offer the handouts, I have nothing else,
like oh Ghunda, but like most people who he'd be
saying the same speech to, like they don't have anything,

(01:32:06):
Like they're trying to get by and to them, like
the prospect of death is less scary than the prospect
of living unless they have something to get by on.
So like that's something that like I don't know if
the show is taking account for, but like I want
to give it credit for.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
I think they did. And the recruiter has that blind spot,
you know, where he's like, he doesn't see it that way. Yeah,
but it's yeah, it's one hundred percent true. It's a
different thing, struggle. He doesn't know that. Yeah, he doesn't
know that much. Show he's a fucking psycho. He is crazy.
The guy's really crazy. There's only one bullet left. It's
for him. We know this. It's got his name written
on it. They both know that this is the last

(01:32:43):
turn right here. So Jehun offers the recruiter the same
chance he was given, which is a nice touch. He says,
you can take that last bullet and shoot me, recruiter,
but if you do that, I need you to admit
to me before you do it that you are nothing
but their dog and wag your tail and you're only
there to serve your masters. Badass. The recruiter g's that

(01:33:07):
crazy look in his eyes that he has, and he
puts the gun into his head shoots himself, because that's
that's what he would do. He's not gonna shoot Jihan
in that situation when it kind of rules.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
He's a very rule to his principles, just as June did.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Yeah, and that's the end of the recruiter.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
He's gone, I did not expect that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
What did you think was going to happen in that scene?

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
I I thought this in the scene would end it
sort of like I don't know, like all shows in
it some sort of impasse. Well and impassed within the
at the end. It's possible both characters kind of agree
on a thing and like it sort of. I didn't
think anybody was dying here. I thought this guy was
around for a few episodes and he dies before the
big bad dies.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
I was thinking it was possible that Young Ho might
have come in and and maybe like the recruiter, so
he doesn't. He doesn't die, but he goes to jail
something bizarre.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
But I didn't think of that. But that is the
most logical thing to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
I mean, why didn't he come in? He just like
pulled up and sat out there while they clicked their
gun playing Russians away on Instagram or whatever. I mean,
maybe he didn't know exactly how to get in. I
don't know, but we left that threat dangly. And this
is the end of the episode, and it ends as
soon as the recruiter shoots himself. So that's that's our episode.
One of squid Games. But that is all we know
for now, and Van and I we don't actually have

(01:34:27):
any more information about what happens from here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
You guys are gonna be so banger. I'm not kidding.
You will be surprised more than once about what happens
this season.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
I expect to enjoy it. I really do. I'm sure I.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Enjoyed this this is You will both like it and
like again I like, I hate that, like this season
only exists for a capital gain, but I also think
it it does justify itself, which I am so reticent
to say, like I don't ever say that, And like,
I think they the create of the show, the actors

(01:35:01):
went out of their way to make this season like
something that means something, even if it's like more entertainment
based in the first.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
I think that the creator made it work. Like it
could have gone very badly with what the executives wanted
because they're pretty tone deaf normally, and them saying like,
let's do some more could have been a disaster. But
the creator has whatever this is. Maybe it it isn't
what the first season was, and maybe it is more
in some ways. But and we can talk about this
at the end of the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Next episode, which is very rare.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
So that's it's it's managed to find a way to land.
It could have it could have been bad, but it
seems like it's going to be okay. We will wrap
up this week's coverage here. Is there anything else that
we didn't plug yet? Because I know we plugged the
Patreon we did that. What else do we need to discord?
Dropping in discord?

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Come because us please like the people on our discord
rule too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Yeah, it's a fun group.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Actually really it's Sherman, his wife.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
It's yeah. Yeah, anyone who's listening you will enjoy it there.
It actually is a good environment. I'm actually really impressed
how that worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
So stop in say hi, and please go to band
camp or Spotify and visit dead Language and look for
someone that looks like me, because like I put a
lot of effort into music in half for a long time.
I'd love it if you listen to it. It is
everything to me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
And there's there's a band of the of the podcast,
Red Dress that can check out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Whereas who I may or may not be involved with.
You can find them everywhere too, but mainly band camp,
and you can find maybe the best song ever written.
It's about Leather the alligator from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
I recently showed this song. Nothing I'm involved with it,
just someone and they said, that's the best song I've

(01:36:51):
ever heard.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
If you're not already on YouTube watching us, you can
find that there. And there's all this, All these episodes
are there. If you're listening on your podcast player and
you want to see the episode on YouTube, you can
do that. Band will have it on there at some point,
and we've got some older episodes that don't have the
video on there as well, so that's another place you
can show to on the way out today, I would

(01:37:12):
like to hear what you guys think a squid sounds like,
and we'll leave our listeners with whatever you guys want,
whatever you think a squid would be if you heard
it in the wild.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Okay, I'll go first. So you're walking up to the
sea because you're on the land, and you look in
and there's a squid looking back at you, and say,
hello squid, and the squid they're smart, right, cephalopods, they're
brilliant or whatever looks right at you with its beak
and its inky sack and it's like a topic. It says,
oh go, and that's the noise that they make.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
Do you have to like pinch it for it to
do that or across it? It just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
It just a wugas whenever it wants. That's why when
you're in the sea swimming and you hear a lot
of a wugas, it's because of all the squids.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
All right, Yeah, it's not the tug boats, which I'm no,
I'll be honest, I'm always surrounded by tug boats. But like,
here's what I think a squid sounds like, Ah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
I think it makes a disgusting ink sound like look
at you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
I don't like that. It sounds a lot like like
a guy from tom Tom Bosley with this his wet mouth.
That's such a wet mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
That's a perfect way to end it right there. Fuck
Tom bos
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