10 Things I Hate About You (1999) William Shakespeare, Heath Ledger, Julia Stiles, & Letters to Cleo!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey there, girly, how you doing sweating like a pig?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Actually in yourself? No, there's a way to get a
guy's attention.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Huh my mission in life. But obviously I struck your fancy.
So you see it worked?

Speaker 4 (00:13):
The world makes sense again?

Speaker 5 (00:16):
Pick up on Friday, then, oh.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Right, Friday?

Speaker 5 (00:19):
Uh huh?

Speaker 6 (00:21):
Well but not.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I take you places you've never been before.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Like where the seven eleven on Broadway?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Do you even know my name?

Speaker 6 (00:28):
Screw boy?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh a lot more than you think. Doubtful, very doubtful.

Speaker 7 (00:34):
I'm whenever you're ready, I just hit record.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Okay, okay, cool, Here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
So cute.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
A meat? Is that a meat cute? Is that what
the kids call a meat cute? Yes? Not exactly. Maybe.
Hello everybody, and welcome to Book Versus Movie, the podcast
where we read books that have been adapted into movies
and then we try to decide which we like better,
the book or the movie. I am Margot patcoloniabook dot com,
and this is my good friend n co host Marco

(01:09):
d of Brooklynvitchick.

Speaker 8 (01:11):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (01:11):
Everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Now today we are doing I mean, of course you
saw the title, We are doing ten Things I Hate
about You, which is not based on a book. It
is based on a play. Every now and again we
do a play to movie. This is one of those times.
We're going to be talking about William Shakespeare's The Taming
of the Shrew. It's had many adaptations. We'll get into

(01:35):
some of them. I just want to start by saying, look,
we're not shakespeare scholars. You don't know there's we we're yeah,
So uh, don't don't be here for your your book
report is all I'm saying, or or your you know,
your English lit thesis paper? Yes, paper? Do we even

(01:57):
call them that anymore? Yea. So we're really excited though
that you're here. This is a podcast. We say book,
but we really mean a movie that has been adapted
from some kind of original, you know, literary kind of source.
It could be nonfiction, it could be a poem, a play,
a song, all kinds of things, a magazine article. As

(02:19):
long as the film has been adapted from some kind
of other source material, we are willing to consider it
is on the table. And so we've done many many
plays to film. This is going to be another one.
We're going to be talking again about Ten Things I
Hate About You, which is based on William Shakespeare's The
Taming of the Shrew, And if you're new and you

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We really appreciate your being here in any way that
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So I feel like we've done Shakespeare before, have we not? Oh? Yeah, yes,
we've done Romeo and Juliet. We've done Romeo and Juliet
to Valley Girl.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
We did that, and we did for Valley Girl, and
then we also we've covered a few of them.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yes, so look again, not scholars, and we're not going
to get into the debate about were they actually written
by William Shakespeare, a pig farmer from Stratford upon Avon.
There's so many other places with actual qualified historians where

(05:13):
you can find this information. Yes, hotly contested. All these
hundreds of years later, people just never tire of talking
about who actually wrote these plays? Was it actually this
guy with the rough and the mustache and all of that.
So we're gonna we're just gonna, you know what, We're
gonna talk about it the way that we learned about it.

(05:36):
That's how we're gonna do. Okay, let's talk about just
the super broad strokes. William Shakespeare.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
Yeah, so he let me look, so we have William
Shakespeare was born most likely eighteenth sorry fifteen sixty four,
and lived to sixteen sixteen. He was an English playwright, poet,
and actor, The Bard of Avon. They're thirty nine plays,
one hundred and fifty four sonnets. He was born and

(06:05):
Stratford upon Avon. He was married to Anne Hathaway when
he was very young. And as Margo said, he's written many, many,
many plays, and there is that debate about whether or
not he is the true and only source of all
of these plays. And there's lots of reasons why you
can debate whether or not he did or didn't do them.
But this particular play is called The Taming of the Shrew.

(06:28):
It's one of the few comedies that he has. It
was written between fifteen ninety and fifteen ninety two, and
it's been I've noticed that it's one of the ones
that has a misogynistic tone to it, to say the least.
The shrew that he's talking about, shrew is the slur
you would give for a woman that you think is

(06:48):
kind of annoying, a pest, maybe somebody who's never been married,
maybe just somebody who just drives men away. Shrews are
also rodents, and they only live for a couple of years,
and they don't eat very much, don't sleep very much,
and there's all kinds of things going on there. But
the story of this particular story, and we will talk
about the other versions that we've seen of this play

(07:09):
that we both really enjoyed, but Basically, it's about a
man who has two daughters and one of them attracts
other men easily and the other one doesn't, and he
will not allow The younger one, who does, has a
couple of suitors pursuing her, they will not He will
not allow her to marry or to be with another
person until her older sister, Cat is taken. And so

(07:32):
there is a man that is the trick. He is
paid to woo Cat so that his friend can woo
the other sister and then hijinks and sue and this
is the story, and it's there's also there's a there's
a beginning that not all productions use.

Speaker 9 (07:48):
That.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
It's just sort of this kind of a goofy kind
of a beginning.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's like a play within a play. Yeah, it's called
it's a device called an induction, like an induction burner.
So it's they often don't include this, and if you
go to see this on stage, you might not even
know what we're talking about it. But like if you're
high school did it, they might have cut this scene

(08:14):
out of it. And it's just this whole thing where
it's like this guy, he's he's a drunk, he's drunk
and his his his friend convinces him that he's a
nobleman and anyway, and they tell the story. So one
guy is telling this story to the other guy basically,
and the story takes place in Italy, which is another

(08:40):
reason for you know, speculation about who wrote it, because
we know that the actual William Shakespeare probably never visited Italy,
and yet so many of his plays are set there,
like Romeo and Juliet. So this is another one that
is set. It's set in Padua and Verona, which we
have comes up again as it comes up in several

(09:01):
of the plays. Anyway, like Margo says, we have the
we have the beautiful, desirable Angenoux Bianca, who was the
younger sister, and then we have Kate Katarina, who is
the aforementioned trewe who was very little rough around the edges.

(09:24):
I think we can say what an important thing to
remember is that when this when this play was first
being seen by the public, all of these parts were
played by men, right, So there's a lot of there
were a lot of layers going on there about you know,

(09:44):
what it means to be a woman, what it means
to be these two different kinds of women and what
we think about them and all of that. So I
think that's like a very interesting and it's also in
an environment where people it's a very the theater in
those days was a very more like a sporting event.
You know, people were selling food on the floor and
and people were standing and talking to each other and

(10:09):
talking to the actors on the play and interacting with them,
and so it was a very different experience. And then
we think of Shakespeare now as being like high classical theater.
It really wasn't that back in the day. So we
have to kind of bear that in mind too. That
when we're talking about, especially like a character like Katerina,
who is so broad and depicted in this way and

(10:33):
so unquote unquote unwomanly, even though she's being played by
a man, there's just a lot of things to take
into account, and it's a lot about that. This show
is a lot about just these different fun characters. So
we have her, we have Petruchio, who is the man
who's paid to woo her. He's very he's very excited

(10:58):
to do so. He's very motivated by money. Petruchio is
and so's because Katerina has a very lovely dowry that
she comes with, and so he's very he's very interested
in that enough that he's willing to put up with
her prickliness, let's say. And so you know, the father

(11:22):
of Katerina, of these two daughters, is only too happy
to He doesn't care if Petruchio is being paid to
do this. He's like, great, take her please, because she
is a terror to everybody, especially her father. And so
the most of the play is her her really kind

(11:49):
of bucking what's expected of her as a woman in
this time when women are a property. Yep. You know,
Petruchio shows up and tries to treat it like his property,
and she's like, no, actually, I'm a human being and
I don't like you very much. And they fight, they

(12:10):
go back and forth, and there's all. But he ultimately,
as the man, whatever kind of man he is, you know,
even if he's the worst possible kind of man who's
just doing this for the money, he has way more
power than she does. And he's ever going to always
going to have more power than she does. And at
the end of the show, I mean, if you're reading it,
if you're reading just the text, at the end of

(12:30):
the show, there's this scene where Katerina has so made
a one eighty that she is schooling her sister. It's
her sister. And there's another woman I can't remember if
it's a friend or cousin. There's these two younger women
who are also betrothed by the end of the By

(12:51):
the end of the play, we have like three weddings
in this show by the end, and Katerina has this
long speech about how you know your your husband is
the be all and all. If he says the sky
is green, it's green. If he says down is up,
it's up. And our job is just to be grateful.

(13:14):
And if you're reading it, especially with it as a
twenty first century feminist, if you know it's it's not
an easy read. But like all things Shakespearean, there are
multiple ways to interpret the text. Just because it's written,

(13:35):
just because that is what the speech says, that doesn't
mean that's how they were playing it at the time.
That doesn't mean how you you have to play it
that way today. There's a lot of room in there.
That's why people keep doing these shows, right, There's always
room in there to to change the meaning of something
or throw a new angle on it. And somehow, this

(13:59):
is the thing about the magic about Shakespeare. Somehow you
can always take whatever's going on in your society at
any given point, whether it's the American Civil War or
it's you know, the nineteen seventies in France, there's always
something going on that you can bring to the production

(14:21):
and help use that artwork to help shed light on
your own time, including this, including this piece. Like I
reading it this time was like I was very you
can't help but think of like the tradwife thing that's
going on right now for example, right or Stepford wives

(14:41):
back in the seventies. But there's always it's just so timeless,
all of these human themes that are in all of
these shows that they just they just work, they just
continue to work.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
We talked about it. You and I both like took
in a couple of different versions of this. So there's
one that I posted in there, and it was Mary
Pickford and Douglas Fairbanks. It was a nineteen twenty nine version.
It's one of the few that has the both of
them together, and it's one of the I think it's
the first where they're both speaking and yeah, and I've
always heard that Mary Pickford was one of the greatest

(15:15):
actors of all time.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
And she is she's I mean, go and watch her work,
her silent work, and even later on when she's speaking,
she's still and she's extremely talented. I mean, you could
see why she was the queen of Hollywood. And Douglas
Fairbanks was a swashbuckling you know, dashing, very handsome. But

(15:41):
this is and they were married. If you didn't know that, yes,
they were married. And they also were the in laws
briefly of Joan Crawford, which we talked about the numerous
times that we've got Joan Crawford. So they were like
not I mean just not even like Brad and Angelina,
just so big it's hard to tell to to im
part like how huge they were, especially for the silent

(16:05):
films because they were silent. These people were global superstars.
And and anyway, as I say, they were married. They
started United Artists with Fairbanks's best friend was Charlie Chaplin,
and they all together founded United Artists. She was a
shrewd businesswoman and had a very long career. But when

(16:27):
they made this film, I guess their marriage was starting
to come apart, right.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
And it was meant to bring them together. It was
a project they could do together as one of the
first talkies that they did, and they created it together.
I mean it looks.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Great, but it does.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
But her performance, their performance is not very very believable.
I mean, it is what it is. There's a better
one that I enjoy from sixty seven, which is the
Franco ZEPHFRIELI version where we have Elizabeth Taylor and Richard
Burton Burton and yeah, it's pretty good. It's beautiful. It
is really very good and it's well done. Yeah, and

(17:05):
also there's a bit kiss Me Kate is a musical
that was made from it. So there's these you know,
old themes of like keeping women in their place and yeah,
keeping smart women and keeping them in a place so
that they don't get too smart, don't think too much
of themselves.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
And you can play it that way, or you can
play it as you know, a really harsh look at
that way of that point of view. I would strongly,
strongly recommend if you've never seen, if you've never had
an opportunity to see Taming of the Shrew on stage,

(17:43):
there is an absolutely outstanding film. It's not long because
it's not the whole play and it's it's marketed as
a documentary, but really it's a lot. It's a lot
of just showing the play. And it is called Kiss
Me Petruchio. And the documentary I think was produced by

(18:07):
Joseph Papp and it is a documentary of the production
of Taming of the Shrew that was done in the
nineteen seventies by Shakespeare in the Park. They did Shakespeare
in the Park as they I think they still do, right, yes,
And this was this production starred Raoul Julia as Patriuchio

(18:32):
and Meryl Streep as Caterina, and the production is performed
in Central Park right after she's working on it, right
right after or possibly even concurrently with the death of
John Cazali.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
Yes, who we've talked about. And yeah, he was in
Dog Day Afternoon, which he covered and got the Godfather.
He was in five films throughout his life and they
were all like the best films of all time basically
that time. But he had cancer and he they filmed
The Deer Hunter, I believe it was together, and then
it was right after that he passed away from lung cancer.
And she, yeah, and she immediately like started working on

(19:15):
this and then she got married again, like with less
than a year later too.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Not long after that.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah, but as she's met Martin Short, which we're all
really excited about.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
So it's this nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine. Sorry, there
is a bug right in front of my camera. I
think I got it. It's nineteen seventy eight, nineteen seventy nine,
New York City. You know it's posts, it's or not post.
It's right in the middle of the quote unquote Women's
lib movement. And so the play you see huge chunks

(19:50):
of the play as performed by these two. It's so good.
It's so good. But it's for a Central Park audience.
Who are They're for free. They're shouting, they're booing, they're
hissing Petruchio, they're cheering, especially the women are cheering. Meryl
Streep as Katerina when she comes out, and I love

(20:11):
her entrance in this. She because everybody's talking about you
know this, Oh lookout. Katerina is a real like, oh boy,
you know you know what you're getting into Petruchio and
he's like, yeah, money right, And when it's finally her
turn to make her entrance, she like stomps out and
she walks over to this little clump of dirt that's

(20:33):
got these two little flowers growing out of it, and
she squashes them with her feet. No, no, no, oh,
I need to see this. Oh it's so good. And
then interstitially with that, you have Meryl and Raoul separately
but then also together talking about these roles and how

(20:55):
they view them as particularly how they view them in
nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine. And then we also get
we also cut to audience reactions, like during intermission, at
the when they come in and during intermission, I think
at the end as they're about to leave, So what
did the audience think about this? What did women in
the audience think about it? What are the men in
the audience?

Speaker 7 (21:14):
It is so I'm going to see this Puerto Rican
SuperStar's so amazing. He was absolutely amazing. Also gone way
too soon for us. I think it was like fifty
four when he passed away.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
So young, so young. So I'll put that, I'll put
the link to that in our Facebook group. It's really
really it's not a long watch. It's like an hour long,
but it's so good and really gives you. I think
I love the Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor. But kiss Me
Petrucchio really somehow just really captures that feel of the

(21:50):
live theater experience of very much like it would have
been when it was originally produced, of course, but with
with with Meryl's playing the late said of some guy.
So it is absolutely delightful. And anyway, that's the Taming
of the Shrew. It's it's has many famous lines. It's

(22:12):
one of his more I mean, he's Shakespeare is known
for originating pretty much every saying in the English language.
Many of them are in this show, as well as
many classic Shakespearean zingers. And I'm not being funny about that.
I mean it's they're very funny, very raunchy jokes in

(22:35):
this play as well. It makes a lot of sex
jokes he does, and it's it's a very fun play.
I think there's a when you read it, like I say,
when you when you just read the text, there is
it's hard to kind of get that he's being funny,
or get get that we're we can have like a

(22:56):
little bit of a wink when we're looking at some
of this stuff, and that we're not to these things
completely seriously, that she needs to just behave herself and
all that. So it's really if you have an opportunity
to see it performed live, just you know, even if
it's a high school, just go and see it. It's
so much fun. It's a fun show. And I really

(23:18):
enjoyed looking at all of the different even the even
the I mean the Pickford. It's it is unwatchable, but
just watch a little bit of it. For one thing,
I'll just spoiler alert. They mispronounced the name Petruchio, the
main character through the entire thing. What you can't tell me?

(23:40):
There was not a single person in all of Los
Angeles that knew how to say Petruchio. And it's not
that hard.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
It's the early years of the movie business. They were
just getting content out there, especially when it came to sound.
They were just learning how to do all these things. Yes,
you know a lot of these actors, some of them
had like Brooklyn accents, or they had you know, European
actors from where they came from.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Your accents, they're okay, you know, it's okay, Like look,
Raul Julia is flawless as Petruchio with his Puerto Rican accent.
It's nobody for a moment is being like, really it
you don't question it for a nanosecond because he's so
amazing and it's such a great production. It's really good.

Speaker 9 (24:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I cannot recommend it highly enough. But if you do
get a chance to see it live, just go, just go.
Even a bad production is going to be fun. Yeah,
it's great. So that's the show. And it's a story
that has been adapted oh so many times, many many times.

(24:42):
Countless episodes of various television shows have tried moonlighting story. Moonlighting, absolutely,
I mean how many, so many. I'm just sort of
trying to look to see here. It's been adapted in
so many different ways with very degrees of success, right,

(25:04):
and this is one of them. You know ten things
I hate about you? And I was just saying before
we got on the ere, I'd never seen this movie
before this week or last week. This is my first
time seeing it. I didn't know that it was based
on Taming of the Shoe. I would have watched it
back then.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Well, you know what happened was that Clueless, which was
based actually on Jane Austen, but that was that became
so popular that there was this idea of like, well,
what else can we mind what other material can we mind?
And so we have this film and the it's two
women who are writing it. It's Karen McCullough and Kirsten
Smith are the two screenwriters, and they have a huge career.

(25:41):
They've written a lot of really classic things. But they
were given this, this script. They came up with it
and they said it it's nineteen ninety nine. So it's
post grunge, but not quite yet, I mean not completely.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, we're in the Seattle Tacoma area in a fictional place,
but that's where we're supposed to be. And but it
is still very nineties. It's very nineties grunge, even though
as you say, like we're kind of we probably when
they wrote it it was like.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Still the last of vestages of it. We're clinging on
to them. I mean, we have letters to Cleo, you know,
and save Ferris or like the bands that are on here.
Gil Younger is the director and he he asked to
He wanted to get a young cast. He wanted to
get unknowns because they wanted Dawson's Creek. They wanted Katie
Holmes and whoever played Dawson, I forget his name.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
But they the movies.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
Gil Younger was able to say, no, I want to
pick two one knowns and then we'll have a crew
of like kids who have been in movies like Jorson,
Joseph Gordon Levitt and David Crummeltz who was in the
Santa Claus. He had like a few kids, so there
was was.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
He the one that was in Adam's Family Values? He
might have been.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
I always think of him as Bernard, He's the He's
the elf Bernard in the Santa Claus.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
So I know.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
And j Justic Cordily was a third rock from the Sun.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
And remember in Adam's Family Values when it's Wednesdays at
summer camp. I remember, and they burned down and they
do the Thanksgiving pageant. My favorite bird he plays her
little boyfriend and my favorite burn is One girl looks
at Wednesday Adams. It's little Christina Ricci in that full
black outfit, and she says, oh, is that your bathing suit?

Speaker 7 (27:27):
She goes, yeah, is that your overbite?

Speaker 4 (27:31):
That's someone with Christine Baranski. Oh, it's so good, so good.
Vanderbeek is that his name?

Speaker 7 (27:37):
James Vanderbeek. Sorry, guys, look at that.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
That was way in there.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, that popped right out. That's what the movie studio,
that's what Disney wanted to do because, like I said,
it was very successful before, and it was at that
time where there were a lot of soundtracks that were
doing really well. Like I had young kids like actors
in their late teens early twenties with the soundtrack. So
that's what we have here, and it's filmed in a
gorgeous area, and I guess we should talk about it

(28:01):
in the movie. They had their twenty fifth anniversary last year.
It came out in nineteenety nine and it came out
the same weekend as The Matrix, so they were not
quite sure whether or not it was going to do well.
I mean, it's one of those things where it just
sort of found its audience and it did. Ultimately, it
did very well. But should be played the trailer. Yes,

(28:22):
let's go ahead and play the trailer.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
There's a difference between.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Mike and Love because I like my sketchers, but I
love my brought a backpack.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
The younger Stratford is the most popular girl of Padua High,
asking me out, I'm.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Down, I've got the full one one and you are
not going out and getting.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Jiggy with some boy. I don't care how dope is right?

Speaker 6 (28:50):
Is her?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Sister? Cat is something else? Entirely.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
People perceive you as somewhat tempestuous.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Harness witch is the term. He's most awesome, the only
thing they have in common. I'm the only girl in
school who's not dating. Oh no, you're not. Your sister
doesn't date is one simple rule. Okay, you can date
when she does.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
But she's a mutant.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
What does she never dates?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
You'll never date? Oh I like that for camera. No
one will go out with her. It's a problem.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Would any of you be interested in dating Katerina Stratford?
Maybe if we were the last two people alive and
there were no goats?

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Are there goats?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
For Patrick?

Speaker 5 (29:32):
And what about him?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I heard he ate alive duck once? Everything about the
beach and feet. It's a challenge. So you two are
gonna help me tell you in the wild based.

Speaker 10 (29:40):
Absolutely And for Cata, it's about time.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
And come on think about it. Me with my arm
around you, you covered in my vomit.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
I'd like to discuss tomorrow night with you now, as
you know, it's the prom.

Speaker 10 (30:00):
Touchstone Pictures Present, Stay cold, brother, Yes, a story for
every guy who's ever tried you.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Never give up to you.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Was that a yes?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well then was that a num no?

Speaker 10 (30:16):
Every girl who's ever hoped You're not as vile as
I thought you were. This is not good And anyone
who's ever been taken completely by surprise.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
She kissed me.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Where in the car, concentrating awfully hard, considering it's a Jim.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Class Ten things I Hate about you.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
The only thing they had in common. I love these.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
This is also eighties and nineties, which is like, my
daughter might lose her virginity at a thing. I gotta
prevent this from happening. Like it's totally okay. We have
to start with our cast, Julia Stiles and Heath Ledger.
This is their first filmed performance. This is there.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
I mean, as you mentioned, they talked to they wanted
to get. They looked at Katie Holmes, they looked at
who was it that they were looking at for this.
For the male lead, it was La La la Oh,
Ashton Kusher and Josh Hartnett. Yes, Maytie Holmes, Katie Hudson,

(31:24):
Kate Hudson for cat, which I mean that makes sense.
But but then they met Heath Ledger and We're like, oh, yeah,
of course, Heath Ledger Australian. No, we don't care, it's fine,
it's fine. Yeah that the director.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Somebody said the director like, well, we're gonna have to
get him a vocal coach so he could speak with
American acts. And he goes, why on earth would you
do that?

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Like this day for what?

Speaker 7 (31:44):
For what reason? And Julia styles I was saying, I
sent you a text yesterday. I was like, how the
world hell has this woman has never had a hair
company like advertisement or her own she.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Why was she not the face of panteene or loreal
or gorgeous?

Speaker 7 (31:59):
She's a So she's Katerina. Heath Ledger is Patrick Verona.
Joseph Gordon Levi is Cameron James. He's the one at
Padua High School. That's a it's so well done. Larry
Miller is Walter Stratford.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
So he was like this perfect, so great fact.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
Larissa oleic Lak, she's Bianca. Andrew Keegan is Joey Donner
and he's the self absorbed jock. And he's chotchy, chotchy
I love the TA calls him. And he's an actor
and he's like all bragging about doing a hemorrhoid commercial.
I mean, just I love it so good. David Crummeolds
is Michael Eckman. Susan may Platt is Mendela. So that's

(32:38):
Kat's friend who's like really into Shakespeare. It's so many
great people. Darryl Mitchell, who's mister Morgan, David Leisure, we
knew him. Joe Joe, Joe Zuzu, he was the Lion guy.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
Yes, Alison Janney is in this movie. Gabrielle Union. It's
just a fantastic group. I mean it's just fantastic and
so yeah, and we have.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Letters to Clio with kay Hanley and her Let's just
have everybody a moment for kay Hanley and her sensible wedges.
I was like, yeah, the nineties wedge we had.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
We all had that. But yeah, so the younger sister,
the mother is away and she left the family. We
don't get too many details about what actually happened.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
No, she's she's not deceased. She has left them, right,
So they all have everybody has issues.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
Right, and they're in the we'd say, I think maybe
we said this more off the are they on the
other but like Seattle, Tacoma, areas, so those are actually
not close to each other. There are very two different
parts of the state. But the North Pacific Northwest in
the nineties was just it's gorgeous and it just was
just a thing, especially in America, and that's that's where
we hung out. So Kat is the older sister, and

(33:52):
she's the one that wants to go to Sarah Lawrence College.
She's very serious, not into the boys as much, you know,
and the boys at the school are pretty rowdy bunch
and not that interesting to her. He Fledger is a
kid that's I guess gone to several different schools and
spent some time in Australia. Joseph Gordon Levitt is a
new kid in school and he spent to like eleven
schools and ten years or something crazy like that.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
But he falls in love.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
Everyone falls in love with Bianca because she's just so
sweet and pretty and kind. And then she has a
crush on Andrew Keegan, who, what we said, is the
actor model. You know, I love the picture of him
with his face, you know, it's.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
So I love it. Just the way that they have
this character is so much fun. Yeah, he's so terrible,
he's so shallow and thinks and everybody does think he's
great and thinks Bianca is in love with him or
thinks she is, and once she gets to know him,
she realizes, oh no, this dude, there's not really much

(34:52):
there for me to to actually get to know y.
Actually they're there great, there's no there there.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
But he wants to date her, and everybody knows that
unless her sister Kat has a date or has a boyfriend,
that she's not allowed to date. So it's like a
year or two younger than her sister. So then he
is paying for Patrick to date her, and so Patrick's
going to make some subscratch and then but at the
same time you have Joseph Gordon Levitt and David Crumoltz

(35:19):
and joseph go friend Lenlin, who's the new kid in school,
also has a crush on her and he wants to
take his shot with her. So even though Patrick Verona
is being paid to date Julia styles like there's other
guys that want to get in there as well, like
to just everyone wants to be with Bianca and not
with Katerina, which is when you look at Katerina and

(35:41):
you're like, this is the most beautiful creature all.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Live what you did see. She's Julias Styles right right, just.

Speaker 7 (35:47):
That blonde, curly wave hair that she has.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
The hair alone, the hair game in this everybody's hair.
I mean, the hair is so good in this film,
just saying for the South Northwest. She let me tell you,
let me tell you something. We were all trying to
get our hair to do those things in the ninety
we were not succeeding. I don't know what kind of
what kind of heated implements they had on set and

(36:11):
what kind of products they were using, but they were
not accessible to the average American teenager. I'll tell you
right now.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
They were not. And then they go through the high
school things. You know, Kat goes to the principal's office
or she goes to not the princelor, the counselor, and
she's writing her filthy you know, she's doing her side
game of writing filthy stories like she wants to sell.
I love it. It's so it's so well done. And
that Darryl Mitchell is he's great because Kat is like

(36:39):
a very loud and proud feminist and he's he's African American,
and he's kind of like giving poking back to her like,
you're not perfect. I love the fact that they have
the boys that are like doing the the Jamaican thing
and oh hilarious, and the cowboys that they had, like
just the the idea of like the different cliques, the
different clicks.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Very clueless but in it but a different in a
different way that is fun just as fun. And yeah,
it is a lot of like we're gonna do what
Clueless did, but but because we're using different source material,
it's an interesting It's still fun and interesting and maybe
not quite to the level as Clueless was done, i'm

(37:23):
gonna say, but still super good. Yeah. Yeah, I was
very very impressed.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
It's really well done.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I was ready for it to be just, you know,
a teen movie, which is why I didn't go see
in the first place. And I was like, oh, this
is Oh I don't see what you're doing there.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
I love the dad. The dad is so great, so
that we were just saying before we got on the air,
the house these girls live in.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
Whoa, he's an obstetrician, so he's doing pretty well for himself.
So that house is like, yeah, he's fine, he's doing well.
But yeah, it's just their adventures at this school of
just you know, Patrick trying to woo Cat and they're
they're the multiple men that are going after Catterina. It's
just really cute. Should we play a clip?

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Yeah, let's play a clip. And again, apologies if you're
watching this on YouTube, we know they're not gonna let
any of these clips end up in our final video.
You can find them, you'll find them. But let's play.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
That?

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Had some great duck last night? Do I know you?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
You see that girl?

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, that's Kat Stratford.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
I want you to go out with her? Yeah, sure, Sparker.

Speaker 9 (38:55):
Look, I can't take out her sister until Cat starts dating.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
You see.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Their dad's whacked out. He's got this this rule where
the girls as a touching story.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
It really is not my problem. Would you be willing
to make your problem?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
If I provide generous compensation?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
You're gonna pay me to take out some chick? How much?

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Twenty bucks?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Fine?

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Thirty?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Well, let's think about this.

Speaker 11 (39:33):
We go to the movies, that's uh, fifteen bucks.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
We got popcorn that's fifty three, and she'll want raisin nuts,
all right, so we're looking at seventy five.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Bucks This isn't a negotiation.

Speaker 9 (39:52):
Take it or leave a trailer park fifty bucks and
we got a deal, fabio.

Speaker 7 (40:00):
And also I have to say, like people don't realize this,
but at our age, believe or not, people used to
just smoke at the high school. They did smoke in
the high school rounds. Absolutely did did They did well real.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
That was a real I mean I went to a
Catholic school and we had a corner of the quad
where the kids would go and smoke. And it wasn't like, oh,
they're sneaking over there, they were. Everybody knew that was
the smoking corner of the quad. That's the thing we did.

Speaker 7 (40:24):
One of the things that Kat's into is music. So
she's she's big into going to the rock clubs that
are in the area, and she has her eye on
a Fender Stratocaster guitar. And so what he Patrick is
doing is because Kat turns him down right away, is
that he kind of follows her around to find out
like what she's into. So she's into the guitar and
she's she's got her own. I love the scene where

(40:45):
she's got she's playing the Runaways in her car and
the girls in next to her, but so he follows
her to a club and that's the next clip that
we have, and it's save Faris I believe letters to clear?
Was that a Was that a Boston thing? Because you
were in Boston at this time?

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I don't know. It sounds it does very much the
sound of the time in that place. So probably let's
see is it is it? Which one? Is it? The
dancing at the part of rock bar scene. Okay, what
are you doing here at night?

Speaker 5 (41:44):
And you're planning on asking me out again? You might
as well just get it out of your mind. You
kind of brun in this moment. You're not talking about
your usual cloud smoke.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
I know, I Clinn, it's not only the Baste.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
These guys that don't Bichandian trail on the rain coats
but not bad.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
You know who the rain cuts are. Why don't you?
I was watching you around that before.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I've never seen you look so sexy.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
Come to Bogue's party with me?

Speaker 7 (42:30):
You never give up, Dan?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Was that a yes? No?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Well?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
That was that an no? I'll say you nine thirty.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
Then it's bringing back so many memories of me and
it's very hard to look at Heath Ledger and to
realize that he's not even ten years later, he's gone.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I know, I know. And he's so good in this.
It's really good in this. And we have we Yeah,
this is like he's got You're watching this and you're like,
oh man, he's got broke Back Mountain, come in and
joker the joker. Yes, oh I know, I know. Uh,
it's great. It's I love this the whole thing. I
think it's so well thought out. I love the costumes

(43:18):
that the hair. Seriously, I'm like, I'm not I'm not
joking about the hair. The hair is really really something
in this film. It's it's extremely well done. Everybody Joey
with a slick back, yes, you know, palmade, and then
Heath Ledger with the exact perfect shade of whatever auburn
or whatever color that is, and you know, just just

(43:40):
perfectly tussled. Uh it's you shoulder length hair and just
it's the costumes I think are so good. They're very
I mean they are on point, got on for the time,
point on point for the time. Yeah, it's it's very fun.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
So there's a party. There's a party in here, and
it's of course, you know, it's somebody that like they're
not supposed to have people over, and then all the
kids are going to show up. And the director was
dating I read this story somewhere. The director was dating
Paula Abdul at the time that he was filming this movie. So, oh,
there's a whole scene where we'll play for you where

(44:21):
Julia is Juis Styles was going to be dancing. Well,
she gets she drinks too much at the party. You know,
it's a typical high school scene. We've all been there.
And he said to her, my girlfriend is Paula Abdul,
you know, would you like for her to train you?
And she said, no, I think I got it. I
think I can do this, And so we'll play that
scene where Julia Styles.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Well yeah, but the thing is okay, well, we'll play
it right now. But on the one hand, like, if
I'm Julia Styles for the rest of my life, I'm like,
I cannot really really I had a chance to really write.
But on the other hand, she's not supposed to be
paul Abdul. She's this secretly super uptight, you know chick

(45:04):
who is very shy, and this is her. It should
be more like a Lane from Seinfeld, which it is.
So let's this is fun, I mean, and it's a
great moment in the film, and it's I mean, it's
just fun.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Okay, what is this right? It's just.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
I've been looking all over the place for you. I'm
getting trashed.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Man, isn't that what you're supposed to do at a party?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
I say, do what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
It's funny, you're the only one later.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Part of the dance.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Hither I should have kept the time.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Really really thank you?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Hey, hey cat, why are you let me have this word?

Speaker 7 (46:15):
No?

Speaker 5 (46:16):
It's not mine?

Speaker 7 (46:18):
My man?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
How did you get.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Out to do it?

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Do what?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Act?

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Like a human boots.

Speaker 7 (46:40):
A time up to talk to us, to.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Us themselves.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
I mean, there's a lot of music in the film
that is the soundtrack. I know was a hit, but
there's a lot of film music in the film that's
not on the soundtrack. This is one example. Uh, Wings
of a Dove by Madness another example. There's a lot
of other stuff that I'm like, how.

Speaker 7 (47:20):
Do they get them dazz disco jazz? Like these kids
were into dazz, Like that's our youth, like our kid years.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
They Yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (47:29):
Mean, I'm impressed they get major props from me for
knowing that, but.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
It's yeah, and I like, again, it's supposed to be dorky,
she's not. She's not supposed to be killing it up there.
She's drunk and and freaking out. We find out later why,
and and I love it, you know, it's very like
I love that sister's reaction, Like she's not like, oh,
my sister's finally letting loose. She's like, oh, something's not
right about this. And this is the point where we

(47:58):
see that what's his name, what's Heath Ledger's Patrick?

Speaker 7 (48:04):
Patrick Verona.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
We see that Patrick, who has been dating Cat presumably
for money, is actually a good guy. This is this
is where we see that he's actually a good guy.
He he actually does have some feelings for her, and
this is the point where he gets to show us that.
So it's a very it's a very well done scene.

(48:29):
It's a very again similar to Clueless, very similar scene
in that respect, but it's I was very very impressed.
I keep saying that, but it's true. It could have
been a lot dorkier than it is, and it's it's good.

(48:49):
I'm trying to think, what O the shoes? There's the
scene so so eventually, of course, we have some departures
from the original source material at this point that like
what we just described at this party, and this is
probably where we kind of divert from the from the
Teaming of the Shrew, when we see that that Patrick

(49:09):
has the opportunity, see because Betruchio would not have done that.
Patruchio would have swooped in, this is my chance to
make Kat believe she's in love with me, and and
he would have totally taken advantage of her right now.
But he brings us not Patrick, No, yeah, that's not Patrick.
Patrick as a gentleman. And Patrick brings her home, and
then Kat learns what's been going on. Kat learns that

(49:36):
Joey has been paid Joey, who we learn is the
source of all the problem in the first place. Joey
has been paying Patrick to date Kat so that he
Joey can now date Bianca. Bianca is discovering how shallow
Joey is. This is not in the original source material.
Bianca's discovering how shallow this guy is, and like, what

(49:57):
was I even thinking? Like how could I even think
this guy was anything? And Kat is now upset because
she was starting to have feelings for Patrick, and so
Patrick has to find a way to make it clear
that yes, yeah, okay, fine, yes this is ex originally
why I asked you out, but but it's not why
I stayed. Like I didn't have to, I didn't have

(50:17):
to keep asking you out this, but I really genuinely
have feelings for you. And then we have the iconic
scene that everybody always talks about in this movie. They
all nobody talks about ten things. People might not mention
the poem, but they're going to mention this scene right here.
Worth Heith Ledger, I mean, how adorable Between this and

(50:37):
I don't know how to quit you. Come on, just
take my money.

Speaker 9 (50:52):
You're just too good to be true.

Speaker 11 (50:56):
Can't take my eyes off of you.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
You'd be like heaven to touch.

Speaker 9 (51:03):
I wanna hold you so much alone as love has
arrived and I thank god I'm alive. You're just too
good to be true.

Speaker 11 (51:19):
Can't take my hands off of you.

Speaker 7 (51:40):
I love you, baby.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
If it's got a rod to may bet you want
alone out of your baby? Trust in me when I say, oh, Brandy, baby,
don't bring me down that play Now that I found you, stay,

(52:04):
let me love bab.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Love that's a Patrick exercising his white privilege and running

(52:49):
from the police knowing he's going to be just fine.

Speaker 7 (52:53):
They filmed it in the summer of ninety eight. They
have thirty three days. It was a thirty three day shoot.
I know, I know. And he said they they so
did like ten times he went through the song, and
he said, one of those cops was like they thought
he thought it was gonna have a heart attack because
it was like so hot, and they was running up back.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
And forth because he kept like shooting to the sides.

Speaker 7 (53:11):
Yes, he kept like, but I mean, come on, I'm
only human, I can I who wouldn't be completely smitten
with that?

Speaker 4 (53:18):
It's adgnorable.

Speaker 7 (53:21):
And yes, in the movie, you know, she does find out,
but I kind of like the fact that they just
like she finds out, but then she forgives him pretty quickly.
I mean, they don't make a big deal about it
because they have chemistry. These two have such great chemistry.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
And it's too bad they never.

Speaker 7 (53:34):
Filmed anything else again. It would have been interesting to
see them to do something, Yeah, something else.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Ay yea Yi.

Speaker 7 (53:44):
But Cat's gonna go The Cat's gonna go to Sarah
Lawrence and she's gonna and her sister's gonna date the
really sweet boy, and her dad's gonna the dad's gonna
let them do their thing, and he's still gonna live
in that gorgeous house that he could afford then on
his career as an obstetrician. But I don't know, I
find it. I find it incredibly charming. Same same the

(54:09):
Great Cast.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
I just really really fun little nuggets of the things
they have, the background folks do, and the you know,
like the thing about the counselor, and it's great. It's
really really great. It's very nineties. Yeah, And I mean

(54:31):
I've loved it. I absolutely loved it. I really really
enjoyed it. If you are whatever the mid April right now,
if you have occasion to be stuck on a Southwest
flight somewhere, it is showing for free, I can tell
you on Southwest air Lines this month.

Speaker 7 (54:49):
It's streaming on uh Disney Hulu with ads and it's
it's completely I guess like we should we have to
show the poem scene, right, because that's oh yeah, they
film this one take she showed Julia Styles really did
write this poem and they got in what yes, I
didn't know that, Yes, Julia Styles wrote this poem and

(55:10):
then she did it in one take and the director
was like so worried because he started crying. The people
behind the scenes as she's feeling she's crying. You'll see
for yourself as she and here for yourself. But he
said that he grabbed her right away to give her
a hug, and like it was almost ruined the scene
because it was just oh, they just caught it.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Realized that. Wow. So I was saying, I remember, I
think I said it before we got on the air there,
And I'll find this clip to you and I'll put
it in our Facebook group. There is a really it's
not easy to watch clip of Julia Styles recently reading
the poem. I did not know that she had written it.
That makes it like all the more like goose bumpy

(55:49):
because she starts crying immediately she reads it because of
course he's no longer with us, and it's probably was
probably for the twenty fifth anniverse or something that they
asked her to do it, and it's very touching. It's
a good poem. I'm very I'm impressed. Yeah again, boy,

(56:11):
no end to this film's surprising me. So yeah, so
she reads the poem, and that's really the moment, you know,
that's the you know, the Ellie King graduation speech moment.
It's the Hey Wade, I think I love Josh momented
that in clueless movies at that time had these great,

(56:32):
you know, roles for young women that I don't know.
Do they still have stuff like this anymore? I don't
know that they do. It's not reliefs on these days,
is it. No? Well, this is really good. It's a
good poem. Let's let's all watch.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
It, all right.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
I assume everyone has found time to complete their poem
except for mister Donald as a.

Speaker 9 (57:02):
Chef.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Lose the glasses, all right, anyone braving up to read?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
That's aloud?

Speaker 3 (57:20):
I will.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Lord, here we go.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
I hate the way you talk to me and the
way you cut your hair. I hate the way you
drive my car. I hate it when you stare. I
hate your big dumb combat boots and the way you
read my mind. I hate you so much it makes
me sick, It even makes me rhyme.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
I hate the way you're always right. I hate it
when you lie. I hate it when you make me laugh,
even worst, when you make me cry. I hate it
when you're not around and the fact that you didn't call.
But mostly I hate the way I don't hate you,
not even close, not even a little bit.

Speaker 9 (58:13):
Not even at all.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
I did it a minute that to actually or second there,
I was like, oh my god. When she started crying,
I just kind of like, it's hard to not cry,
it's hard not to cry.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Yes, she died too. It really caught me off guard
because I had and I had already seen that clip
of her, the recent one, you know, and I, oh,
you know she's crying. Of course, you know it's in
twenty five years and you know he's no longer here,
but I hadn't seen the original it's and it totally Yeah,
I totally started crying. Yeah, I'm trying to think, what

(59:08):
were the other films that we talked about her Julia Stiles.

Speaker 7 (59:14):
Yeah, I don't think we have. I thought we had
down another one.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Maybe not.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
We'll we'll definitely try to though.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yeah, I must be confusing her with somebody else. She's
so good in this.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
Yeah, she's really good in this. She's really really good,
and he's really good and he and his response to
her when she's reading it that that also made me cry.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Ledger, Oh, I can't with Heath Ledger. I just can't.
I know.

Speaker 8 (59:50):
So Booker movie, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a
tie because I do genuinely like the play very much.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I really I think what they did with it was
innovative and fun and entertaining and really didn't didn't take
the the road that it could easily have taken and
in adapting The Taming of the Shrew, and so I

(01:00:22):
think I really liked. I really loved the way that
they that they approached the material. I thought it was
super good. So I'm going to give it a tie.

Speaker 7 (01:00:30):
I'm going to do the same. I'm going to do
the same. But I'm definitely going to check out the
The Kiss but what is it again? Kiss? Kiss me Petruchia, Petruchio, Okay,
kiss me Petruchio. I'm going to definitely because I want
to see Meryl Streep and Julia.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
I mean, I'm just not to be missed. It's so good.

Speaker 7 (01:00:49):
PBS had a special about Raoul Julia about his career.
That's just like he was, like I said, And.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
There's there's clips from that in in that I've seen
that documentary. Yeah, there's clips in that, but this is
like the whole It's really good. It's really good. So yeah,
I'm just wonderful. Just I really I'm sorry y'all who
have been asking us to do this for so long,
and I was like, and I really want to do
this teen movie and I did not know. I did

(01:01:18):
not know, And so I apologize. We should have done
as sooner.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
That's one of the reasons why we do the show
in general. Like you and I, we wanted to read more,
we wanted to check out new things. So this absolutely
made us do that. So yes, just great.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
Now what we're going to be talking about next time
is not a new thing, not to us and not
to most kids of our generation. I'm very excited about this.
I am so excited about this. Is we're going to
talk about the Housewives, which I know that you you
follow the Housewives. I follow them a little bit and

(01:01:52):
I did follow. Is it Beverly Hills?

Speaker 7 (01:01:55):
That yes, And Beverly Hills is not having a great season,
especially Kyle, So I hear Kyle's not having a very
good season. But we're going to be talking about escape
to which Mountain Kim Richards was a huge movie star
when we were kids, when we were little. Yeah, she's
a few years older than us, but she was like

(01:02:15):
in all the movies, like especially Jody Foster. Right, she's
a Jodie Foster type and she just beautiful blonde hair.
She's adorable. And so it's Escape to Which Mountain. It's
typical the seventies. You have like your lot older actors
and your younger actors like working together. It's pretty easy
to get the book. It's streaming on Disney, so we decided,

(01:02:36):
let's just do it. We'll do Escape to Witch Mountain,
which were really excited about.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
I got the book on Libby just now, so it's
easy to find. I remember when I when I was
in elementary school, I must have been in kindergarten earth
first grade, and I remember because it kids don't really
do lunch boxes like they used to do back in
the day, right, you don't really see them with all
the different and you would kind of show what you

(01:03:00):
would you were into with your lunchboxes. And I remember,
I remember there was a kid who had to welcome
back catter lunchbox. I had a snoopy lunchbox and somebody
in my class had to escape to Witch Mountain. Lunchbox.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
I had a Star Wars lunchbox. Yeah, so yeah, we'll
talk about lunchboxes. We're going to talk about the Disney
movies of the seventies, like what they put out for
us for our entertainment back then, to get our parents
to take us to the movies. But as you can tell,
we're always looking for suggestions. So all those places I
mentioned at the top of the show said as your ideas,
we just asked that the movie has to be on

(01:03:34):
a major streaming app so that everybody has a chance
to get it. If we have to go to eBay
to buy the book or the movie, it's just not
going to work out for us. Our email once again
is Book Versus Movie Podcast at gmail dot com and Margo,
where can they find you?

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
You can find me online at coloniabook dot com and
all my social media call outs are at She's Nacho
Mama and where can they find you?

Speaker 7 (01:03:56):
You can find me at Brooklynfitchick dot com. I'm at
Brooklynfitchick for thread. On Instagram, I'm a Brooklyn Margo for
TikTok and Blue Sky, and at my name Margot Donahue
that's where you could find me for YouTube. All Right, everybody,
thank you so much for listening. We'll be back soon
with a new episode.

Speaker 9 (01:04:19):
Drink.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
You missed the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
Walk, Now you're the pay.

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
All right, that's enough, okay across the line.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
Oh come on, get up your little punk.

Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
Oh shit, I'm sure a no spray at tomorrow for me.
My ka flee my sister.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
Nun for me?

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
Oh are you okay?

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Haven't been there?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Oh wait, what happened there? We go?

Speaker 7 (01:05:20):
Thank you so much for listening to the Book Versus
Movie Podcast. We're a part of the Speaker podcast network.
Go to spreaker dot com to check out all of
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If you want to interact with the Margos, the best

(01:05:41):
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Go to Facebook and type in Book vs. Movie Podcast
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Spelled it all out at gmail dot com. This is

(01:06:02):
Margo D. And you can find me at my blog
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at Brooklyn Margo for Blue Sky Margo p. You could
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We really appreciate the listen and if you have ideas

(01:06:24):
for us, we not only cover books, but also short stories,
magazine articles, plays, songs, poems, be creative. If it's been
adapted into a movie, we may just cover it. We
just ask that the movie be available on a major
streaming platform.

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