Death on the Nile (2022) Kenneth Branagh, Gal Gadot, Tom Bateman, and Agatha Christie

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This is our second annual Mysteries in May, and we
decided to dig our heels in and the vote the
entire month to the incomparable Agatha Christie and the many
many movie adaptations of her work. Today we'll be talking

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about Death on the Nile, which we discussed last year. Actually,
I think we kicked off our first Mysteries in May
with Death on the Nile. But we're going to be
talking about the newer Kenneth Bronic version and some other
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to that. We've done it a few times for a
few select books and movies. So again, we're gonna be
talking about Agatha Christie this entire month. Last week we
kind of covered more of the broad strokes. Today because
we're talking about death on the Nile, I feel like

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we should talk about her marriage to Sir Max Edgar
Lucian Malawan.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Oh do you have a Max? Do you have the intel?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah? Yeah? So her now this is not his name,
obviously is not Christie. If you listened last week, you
know that what was his name, Archie was that her
first husband's name. I need the first time that she
has daught her with that she on her we'll talk

(06:07):
more about that one as the month goes on. But
then she remarries and her second husband, they were married
for how long let me see here, They were Archibal
nineteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yes, yeah, so she was married Marchibal Christi, which is
where she gets her last name. They were married from
nineteen fourteen to nineteen twenty eight, and then she had
something of a nervous breakdown, and then eventually their marriage
broke up. And then she married in nineteen thirty to
Max Malawan, and that was a very successful relationship.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yes, they were married in nineteen thirty and they were
still married when she dies in nineteen seventy six. And
Hocket the Christie, as we talked about last week, is
a woman who really, by all reason should have just
had a quiet middle class life, attending to her garden

(07:03):
and belonging to various like ladies societies. She was a
very adventurous spirit, and she was an upper middle class
English lady who had a lot of privilege in many ways,
but she also had a lot of challenges that she
faced as well. And an extraordinarily successful writer, you know,

(07:26):
second to like Shakespeare in the Bible. I think it's
like the Christian and Max Malowan one of the things
that they kind of bonded over was a passion for
archaeology and antiquities, and particularly Egyptology as it was called

(07:47):
at the time. And Max Mallowan was was an archaeologist
that came out of Oxford University and trained at Nineveh
and he serves and he serves in World War Two.
But they're already married by then, so, I mean, it
was just a really by all accounts, and there are letters,

(08:12):
she was passionately in love with this man. He's he's
younger than she is by how much? Let me see,
fourteen years? Oh wow, good for her, Yeah, good for her, right, so,
and she was always kind of self conscious about that
that she especially as they got older, you know, especially

(08:34):
at standards for men and women being what they are.
She always was very self conscious about that. But it's
very very clear that she was in love with this man.
The really it's a very sweet love story. And I

(08:54):
mentioned last week Lucy Worsley's wonderful biography of Aga the Christie,
and she's got really great examples of the letters. I mean,
as they got older, it's unclear. I mean, it was
a different time. We don't really quite know exactly what
went on, but the marriage stays pretty darn strong pretty

(09:16):
much all the way through. So she travels with him.
They go all over the place, and most significantly to
what we're talking about today, the time that they spend
in Egypt. He was a bit of an expert, and
so she has a lot of resources to draw on.

(09:37):
It's yet another exotic locale for an exciting Poirot mystery.
We talked about last week. We're evil under the Sun.
Oh boy, really blank there for a second, sorry, guys,
Evil under the Sun. And we've talked before about death

(09:57):
on the now, as I've said, and we also discussed
murder on the Orient Express, and there's a there's kind
of a I don't want to say trope, but there's
a device that Agatha Christie often uses where a murder
happens in kind of an isolated location, so it can
only be a select number of people who could have
done it. This is one of those cases. So except now,

(10:22):
even though we're kind of isolated on this little boat,
just like with murder on the Orient Express, everyone it's
just the people who are on the train, and an
evil end of the Sun, it's just the people who
are on this Island. What's great about Orient Express and
Death on the Nile is that the boat is moving.
It's constantly moving from exotic location to exotic location, and

(10:45):
it's a peek into this jet setting pre World War two,
very opulent kind of lifestyle that people led, traveling in
a very luxurious and slow manner. Yeah. I was just

(11:08):
watching a video this morning of a woman who I
like to I like to follow these people who live
on longboats and they in London and they live, you know,
they travel the canals and they it's like a houseboat,
but it's a specific to travel the canals. They have

(11:28):
to be quite skinny. So they've transformed what they call
these longboats. So they used to use the canals to
ship goods and services. Before the railway, it was like
a main mode of transporting everything. And this woman was
traveling to from I think from London to Oxford, I
think it was, and something happened to her boat. They

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were going to take the boat and they weren't able
to take the boat, and it was going to be
like a fifteen hour or no, a nine hour trip
on the boat, and it was a fifteen minute trip
on the train, which they ended up taking So just
to give you an idea of like how slow we're
trying it is. It's not fast. It's not fast. It's
slow enough that as they're passing villages and communities along

(12:16):
the shoreline of the Nile, they're able to actually talk
to the people on the shore from the boat and
have a conversation and talk back and forth. So we're
just you know, there's no hurry. Why there's plenty of
there's plenty of gin, there's plenty of jazz.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Why bother.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
So Anyway, Agatha has a lot of personal life experience
that she is bringing to some of these books. Especially
this is definitely one of those where she's just like
packing in all the Egyptology and all of that upper
crust on WII and the luxury. It's just so much fun,

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especially at a time where you know, people reading it,
we're not living that lifestyle, you know, they it was
a different time by then, and it's it's definitely like
a piece of nostalgia. I'm sure it must have been
for a lot of people. It's one of her most
popular books, right, So let's talk a little bit about

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the plot of Death on the Nile.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
It's so yeah, it was published in nineteen thirty seven.
And what we have is a socialite. Her name is
Lynette Doyle, and she is asking for Hercule Poirot to
vacation with her and her new husband to travel on
the Nile because she stole this man from her one

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of her best friends, just like three or four months before,
and so she's worried her that she's going to find
out her friend's name is Jacqueline, that she's going to
come on to the boat and she's going to harass them.
I think that's like the worst she can think of.
But she also has nice jewels with her. She's very wealthy.
He doesn't have any money. But anyway they fall in

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love rather quickly.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
They go on and on about how very very good
looking he is.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
He's very He's American, right, he's very and he's.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
No Lynette Ridgeway, the rich heiress is the American. Okay,
she's been to forget if she's like half American half English.
She has a home in English. She's very, very, very
unlimited wealth. So she's from the US, probably like you
know your Rhode Island Newport kind of set. Also has
an opulent home in Britain. Again, This is during a

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time where we're between the wars and even you know,
it's the jazz age and things are very opulent, and
but the upper classes of in Britain are not quite
back where they were before, and so there's a lot
of Americans kind of swooping in to high society in England.

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And she's she's a little bit that, she's a little
bit one of these like American industrial princesses as they
used to call them, dollar bill, dollar bill? What did
they call them? Dollar bill? I forget dollar bill nobility
or something like that. And she grew up though, but
she grew up in England and her her best friend

(15:24):
is Jackie belfour bell Ford, and they they are in touch.
We get the impression on and off over the years.
And Jackie shows up at Lynette's one day and is like, Oh,
I'm so excited. I have to tell you I'm engaged.
I love this man so much and very significantly. Like
it's with tremendous emphasis that Agatha Christie says puts this

(15:49):
in the book. If I can't marry him, I'll die.
I'll die, I'll die. You're like, okay, Jackie, calm down,
and she says to Lynnette, I need a favor. I
love him. He's so gorgeous, he's so handsome, he's so dashing.
He's everything I've ever wanted. But he's he doesn't have

(16:09):
any prospects of any kind, and he needs a job
and could you and you have this giant estate, surely
you could find a job that he could do. And
Lynette is like, well, sure okay, and she's like, he
can you know, he can be like a like a
like a grounds manager kind of thing at this handyman
for English estate, one of her many estates. Right, he

(16:30):
can work there, And she's like, yay. Jackie's so happy
because now she and Simon will have a future together.
Cut to I forget. It's like six months later.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
It's it's so three or four months and she's married
to him, and she's like married if they are married, right,
And all of a sudden wiped her man, and she's like, okay,
I need to hire you because we want to take
this fancy trip down but we don't and we want
to invite all of our beloveds with us. But you know,
other people can obviously get a ticket and come on board.

(17:02):
If she does, she's going to harass us, so we
need to hire someone. And Poirot likes to go, likes
to travel, like if he can do it on somebody's dime,
why the hell choice luxury, Yes, and he has a
taste for luxury. We've talked about Poirot many, many, many times.
He's Belgians. But we'll talk about the backstory for him
that's introduced in the Browno version, which I thought.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Was kind of interesting. I thought that was I liked
that they touched on that because it's something that Christy
alludes to in and out over the course of all
of the Poirot novels, so it is kind of nice
to have. I did like that about the movie. So
there's some very significant differences between this book and the

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movie that we're going to talk about today. But I
want to mention just I may have to bring this
up every single time, just to be really clear that
one of the great things about Agatha Christie movies adaptations
is that they and I don't know if this is
a condition of the Agatha Christie estate, I kind of
think it is that they have to change some of

(18:06):
the details some of the characters, whether they like add characters,
take characters away, change certain plot points so that people
who love the novel and have read it over and
over again. And that's just one of the strange things
about Agatha Christie. Even though it's a mystery, somehow you
want to read it over and over again. My mother
did just people just love I've read Death on the

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Nile several times, and you want to go to the
film and be surprised, like, oh, look look what they
did there.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
That's also instead of having it be a school teacher,
oh it's a it's a man, and he's he's a
business owner. Oh I see. No, So there's always some surprises.
There's going to be some things that are changed. One
of the big things though, that that let me I

(18:56):
just want to establish a few things that are like
really kind of I feel really important to the story
that the film. This film really deviates from. I felt
like kind of a lot. Number one is there is
over and over again as we meet every single character

(19:16):
in the novel. And we talked about this last time.
The thing about Lynette Ridgeway is that she is she
is presented as this golden girl of the jazz age.
She's a jazz bitby from the Usa Chad. She has

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everything she can buy and sell whatever she wants and
whoever she wants, and every single character that we meet
in this novel says that about her. Every single one
is like, she's so beautiful, she has everything, she can
buy anything, and they're blown away by her beauty. But

(20:04):
they don't really like her very much. She's not a
nice person. She's not a nice person. And we learn
this pretty much right away, pretty much like in the
so we meet the first scen where Jackie shows up
and she's like, I'll just die if I can't meet Simon,
and Lynette's like, okay, I'll give him a job. And
then literally the second scene in the book, we're like, oh, oh,

(20:26):
I see and and Lynette is extremely kind of cruel
and heartless about what she's done. She's like, well, she's
just gonna have to get over it, you know, like
she literally just told you she will die if she
can't marry this man, and you're like, sucks to be you, right,
And we learn as as we meet each character, each

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character has some kind of a resentment either they've had
some interaction with Lynette Ridgeway in the past where she
screwed Peace stalked all over them, screw people over, or
they just don't like her. They just don't like her
because they know what she's like. And when we meet,

(21:14):
when we meet them as a married couple, and Simon
too was like, oh, I know, I was such a
fool to have ever cared for I mean, he's awful
to her too. I was such a cool fool to
have ever cared for her. And we learn that when
they married. So she snatches her best friend's man and
Mary's marries him, and Jackie is not taking it well.

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She is showing us she's the ghost at the wedding.
She's showing up where she's everywhere they want to be,
like Visa, she's everywhere they want to be, or that MasterCard,
and she's glowering at them and ruining their good time
in the jazz age, and and what can they possibly do?
You know, they're trying to they're trying to figure out

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how to just get on with things and just ignore her,
and it's it's not working very well. So they decided
they're taking their honeymoon in Egypt, which rich people was
a thing that rich people did. They let's go on
the Egypt tour. And see the Pyramids and see the Sphinx,
and take the yacht down the Nile, and so naturally

(22:23):
when they are getting ready to uh, they go to
a resort first, I think as some fancy, fancy hotel, right,
and everyone else is also there on a similar kind
of a tour, but for different reasons. So we have
this is where we get to meet all of the
players in this story. So we have, of course, we

(22:46):
have Erq Parro. Now here there's also a an op
some kind of a police invest a police something, right,
who's a friend of Paro's, and he's also there, and
both Puaro and the police guy are both pretending to
be on vacation, but they're not really on vacas. Now.
His name's Ray, Yes. So we have Lynette Ridgeway Doyle,

(23:12):
who is our American heiress. We have Simon, who she's
snatched from her best friend, Jacqueline de Bellefort. We have
oh yeah, we have the Allertons. Yes, they're very strange,
very weird, very close mother and son just going to

(23:34):
leave it there. We're like, we're not sure what's going
on with the Allertons. Then we have Carl Bessner, who
is a doctor he's a German, a German doctor who
is on board. Again, this is between the wars. This
is right when Hitler is like really super coming to power.
So we've got this doctor, then we have we have oh,

(23:59):
we have mister So mister Ferguson's kind of an interesting guy.
We meet him as mister Ferguson, and he is on
this extremely luxurious trip. There are other ways to go
to Egypt, like if you don't have money, or if
you're an academic, this is not how you're going to Egypt.

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But here he is mister Ferguson, and he is having
expressing disdain for all of the opulence and wealth that
he is surrounded with, the colonialism in the way that
the white people have imposed their culture on the locals.

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And he's constantly going on and on and on about it,
and like is he an anarchist? He wears like very
not very fancy clothes, you know, like not something that
would belie someone who could afford a trip like this.
Later on we learned he is in fact a member
of the No Ability But but for now we're like,
what's this deal I see on this? Like if you

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care about this kind of why are you on this ship.
Why are you all of all the plate ways to
come to Egypt? Like you chose this, okay. Then we
have James Fanthorpe who is a young lawyer. We have
Gueto Richetti who was an archaeologist. We have Whetwood who

(25:30):
is an ND engineer who does it works. He works
on the ship and we'd like, he's another guy, like
we don't really know his story right away. Then we
have my favorite, Marie van Schuyler, who was an American.
She's an American. You just a wealthy I forget. She's
a widow. She's had like several husbands. Again, everybody's like,

(25:52):
what's their deal? And she travels with a nurse named
Miss Bowers, delightfully played by Betty Davis and Maggie Smith
in the last version that we talked about. And Miss
Bowers we learn is a cousin of missus Schuyler, who
has fallen on some hard times again between the wars, right,

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she's fallen on some hard times. Her family used to
be well off, then they lost everything, and Bowers has
been reduced to being the travel companion of her wealthy cousin.
Then we have Cornelia Cornelia I'm sorry, Cornelia is the
poor cousin. I'm putting the two people together. There's Bowers

(26:38):
and Cornelia in the book. Then we have Louise Bourget,
who is the maid of Lynette Doyle, right, and I'll
talk about that in a minute. And then we have
my other two favorite characters. These are so fun. We
have Salome and Rosalie Audiborn. Now in the book and

(26:59):
in every other version I've ever seen adapted of this book.
Salome Auduborn. What's so fun about her is she's a
very famous author, and she's a she's an author of
romance novels. But Agatha Christie very deliciously, you know, and
at this point she's she's she's so famous, Agatha Christie,
like she's hard to convey how globally famous this writer is.

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And she had had that whole very sad period where
she had a breakdown after her first husband cheated on her,
and she, by all accounts like she completely suffered a
spell of amnesia. She had a total break with reality

(27:45):
and thought she was somebody else. May have I even
thought she was the mistress of her husband. And she
went missing for weeks, I think it was, and she
was holed up in like a hotel. But but people,
a lot of people thought that it was a publicity
stud because she was just starting to become famous as

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a writer at that point. And so Agatha Christie in
the nineteen thirties is a woman who a lot of
people are talking about. She's very, very successful. She's also,
as I said, extremely well off. She does not have
to be a right, she'sdn't have to work for a living,
and yet she's doing this author thing. And she disappeared

(28:28):
like it was for attention, Like what was what was
that about? And she was a character, like I say,
a woman who people had a lot of opinions and
were always gossiping about in the newspapers and whatnot. And
so Agatha Christie in Death on the Nile has taken
all of the salacious things in rumors that people have
said about her and made them true in the person

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of Salome Auduborn. Salame Auduborn is is all of the
things that all of the worst things that people thought
that Agatha Christie was. She's a diletant, you know, she's
a drum She she does she uses the attention seeking
it's like a heat seeking missile. For attention and fame.

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When she sees Poirot is all on this this journey
with them, she's constantly like milking him for details that
she could put into her books. And she's just a
she's just a very annoying, ridiculous woman. And she has
with her as her travel companion, her daughter and you

(29:33):
know who is also sort of like a nursy figure.
We have several women in this novel who take care
of older women and some there's some other people like staff,
hotel staff and all of that. And it's funny because
like the staff are almost never like at all involved
in the story, but they're just there all the time.
I don't know why. They're never as suspicious as anybody else,

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but they never are. So there they are in Egypt,
and sure enough Jackie shows up. Sure enough, Jackie shows
up to ruin their jazz age trip to Egypt, honeymoon trip.
And she's really making a scene. She's really ruining everybody's
good time, and she does not care. And another thing

(30:17):
I love about this particular novel is it really shows
off Poaro's number one. As you've mentioned, his love of luxury,
so he's always like he likes exotic to try exotic
foods and exotic places and accommodations and so on, and
the other thing he really has a weakness for is

(30:38):
young love, and he feels very sorry for He sees
everything that has happened, of course because he's Piro, and
he feels very sorry for Jackie, and he tries multiple
times to be there for her, try to give her
good advice. He gives her very good advice about getting

(30:59):
on with her life, and like, why are you even
bothering over this guy? Really, he's as dumb as a post. Yeah,
he's her looking, but like, what on, Athrey, No, let
her have him? And she just is not hearing it,
not hearing it, not hearing it in the book actually

(31:21):
in every version, but she I don't remember her saying
it in the Kenneth Bronig one, But in each version
of the book, she shows Puio that she carries this
teeny little pistol, like little little lady's handbag, pistol like
you would fit in a little beaded evening bag. She's like,
look at my little pistol. And she also mentions in
most of the other versions that she is an ace.

(31:45):
She's like a sniper her. She's like her. Everyone has
remarked on her amazing Marx womanship. You're like, okay, Jackie.
It's always like calm down, Jackie. And yes, he's like,
look at my gun. I'm gonna I just want to
put a bullet in that woman's head. And I'm like okay, okay.

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So Pooro is very concerned. He notices that everybody around
Lynnette Ridgeway has an axe to grind with her with
good reason, with very good reason. She is not a
likable person, and we see her being not a likable
person throughout the novel. We learn over the course of

(32:28):
the you know, as they're traveling and as they're on
the ship and you know Jackie, they sneak away. The
ship is supposed to be a ruse to evade Jackie.
They suddenly, on the spur of the moment, decide to
take this cruise on the Nile when they originally were
going to go do something else. They're gonna, I remember,
take a train or I don't remember what all. But

(32:48):
then Jackie shows up. How does she know that we
were here? There? She is so as everybody is going
down the nile, and Jackie's like being a sour puss
and ruining everybody's good time. We learned about all of
the ways that Lynette and her family have ruined people's lives,
you know, starting with her maid, her poor maid, her maid, Louise,

(33:13):
who Jackie really orders around. I mean, of course, yeah, okay,
she's a maid, okay, but she's she's not very nice
about it. And we learn also that Jackie, for somehow,
for bad the maid, basically blackmailed the maid to keep
her from getting leaving her and getting married. The woman

(33:35):
was in love, Louise was in love with the young man,
and Lynette's like, no, he's not good enough for you,
you're not marrying him, and she would not. She made
it so that how can I put this, so that
Louise was sort of indentured to her. Basically she was
not paying her, which is called wage theft and is

(33:56):
against the law. Yes, by the way, if you're experiencing that,
that is against the law. So so Louise, you know,
poor Louise is stuck with this woman till when who knows,
and she treats her just abominably. And so there's that.

(34:16):
And then we learn also that Bowers missus Schuyler's nurse
Bower's family, or maybe it was I'm sorry, maybe in
the it's the cousin. I'm getting Bower. I'm getting the
versions confused. The cousin who is Cornelia, the poor cousin
of Missus Schuyler. Cornelia is the way that her family

(34:39):
lost all their money was that the Ridgeways cheated her
father and absolutely ruined him, and it just destroyed everything.
It destroyed their lives. And here she is stuck with
Missus Schuyler on this ship on the Nile, and everybody
has some story like that that's connected to the Ridgeways,
and so it's a lot of the novel is all

(34:59):
of that kind of coming out and parros like, hmm,
that's very interesting. We also learned that Missus Schuyler, who's
very crotchety and very fun to read, she's extremely cranky
for a woman who's on her dream vacation. We also
learned that she for all of her money and everything,

(35:20):
she's a kleptomaniac. She likes to steal jewelry and so.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
We all need a hobby, Margo, I know.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
So when she meets Lynette Ridgeway on the Nile, She's like, oh,
those are some nice pearls in the in the book,
it's a pearl necklace. Oh nice pearls you got there,
And Browers is like, don't even think about it. I
know what you're doing. I know what's up. We're not
doing this, not now, not on a boat. We're like,
there's only six of us here, like, what's what are

(35:52):
you doing? So yeah, so it's a lot of that.
There's a lot of like learning about all of the
ways that Lynette and her family have screwed people over
to get to where they are. And Lynette is very
becoming increasingly paranoid. There's a scene where they're visiting a
temple or something like that, and this humongous abu simbel,

(36:18):
this giant boulder, drops from the sky and very nearly
crushes her. So she's just becoming and and Jackie has
just straight up said she's gonna shoot.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Her, so but shows in the boat when it happens,
so she has an alibis.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
But but we're.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Meant to understand that there are a lot of people
who don't like Lynette or don't have a problem with her.
So there's so they get so they have that that
close call where there's going to be a boulder that
hits them. They get back on the boat and they're
going along and it's Jackie and I forget who else
and Simon.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
And yeah they're they're witnesses, right, so it's late. Oh
so here's another thing. So if you know, and you
have to remember, like people reading this book, no aircule
par Row. Really I'm saying, I have so much trouble
with friend, y'all. I'm so sorry. They really know a lot.
We know things about him because Agatha Christie, as I said,
she likes to drop these little breadcrumbs about his life.

(37:17):
You know, he was a refugee, he was a star,
you know, law enforcement officer in Belgium, this and that.
One of the things that we know about Poirot is
that he is an extremely light sleeper. Everything wakes up
a cue pa Row and death on the Nile, that
was one of the things. I mean, not death on

(37:38):
the Nile, murder on the Orient Express. Like he was
bolted awake by like a like the slightest little just
a little noise, you just jolted him awake, and that's
how he was able to solve the murder. So you know,
everybody's kind of having that after dinner drinky time, and
Poirot is having a little a little glass of something

(37:58):
and he's like, oh, man, I don't know, like if
it's the heat or the little bit of alcohol and something.
I just cannot keep my eyes open. And so he's like, gosh, guys, sorry,
I'm gonna just turn in early. I'm going to go
to bed. So he is sound asleep, and everybody else
is in the lounge, or you know, at least a

(38:19):
lot of people's and Jackie, Jackie is because Jackie's got
a Jackie she's going to start something with because she's bored.
She's going to start something with Lynette and Simon. And
Lynette is like, I just can't. I'm going to bed
and I'm taking a sleeping pill and just don't even
bother me and good night. And so that leaves Jackie

(38:41):
and Simon and all the other people. And so Jackie
is pushing him and pushing him and pushing him, and
they finally they get into this argument and she pulls
her teeny little gun out of her teeny little handbag
and shoots him in the leg. And right away she's.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Like, oh, what was he thinking, oh my god, she
has down. Yeah, she has a conniption. So he's grabbing
his leg and they could see they think it's red
blood that's coming out of his knee.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
So he falls and appears to how he grabs his
hanky and he puts it over his zem. They see
what looks like blood on the hanky, and he's he's like,
get her out of here and get me a doctor,
And so.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
They kick the gun underneath there, and so Jackie is
taken away by her nurse or or and she.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Jackie is taken away. I can't remember if it's the maid. No, no,
it's uh yeah, it's like Bowers or I think it's
Bowers who who takes Jackie away? Because Bowers is a
nurse and and Jackie is now having just a full
giant meltdown, and so Bowers takes her away, gives her

(39:52):
a sedative and kind of lies down with her, puts
her down for the night, and it feels like she's like,
don't worry, I will just be staying up. I'm going
to keep an eye on her. I will not leave
her alone. I don't want her waken up and like
doing some something to harm herself. I am not leaving.
So Bowers stays with Jackie and the other people in
the lounge run to get the doctor, who has also

(40:15):
been screwed over by Lynette and by the ridgeway. Somehow
I forget exactly what that story is. And the doctor
comes back and he's like, oh, yeah, bullet wound. So
let's get it, you know, let's stop the bleeding. And
he gets it, gets the thing dressed up, and now
Simon is laid up. Simon cannot walk because he's been
shot in the leg.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Yeah, so he's bedridden.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
So he's bedridden, and so so he's he's and they
keep him there in the lounge. I think he spends
the night in the lounge and and you know, that's
just that's the drama for the night, everybody thinks, and
they all go to bed. And then the next morning,
Parl is like, whoa boy? Was I asleep? My goodness?
And there's a screen and it's the maid and she

(41:00):
has gone in to wake Lynette for her, you know,
for her breakfast. And Lynette is dead with a bullet
right through the temple, just like Jackie said she was
going to do. Only Jackie couldn't have done it because
she was sedated as well. So yeah, you always have
an alibi. Everybody's got an alibi, unlike last time where

(41:20):
that we had one couple that had no alibi, which
was kind of fun to throw in the mix. So
so Poirot does his his question and that's another fun
thing about those novels, Like he did his questioning of everybody,
and you learn that everybody has a motive to kill
this woman, not just Jackie, even though yes, she was
killed exactly the way that Jackie said she was going

(41:41):
to kill her. And another thing that often happens is
the simplest solution is generally what it ends up being.
So after so he's doing in the middle of his
questioning of each individual, uh, and for some reason he
questions the maid in Simon's presence and he and the

(42:06):
maid says, oh, I didn't see anything. I mean, the
only way I would have seen something is if I
happened to be out on the deck and happened to
see the murderer run into run into her room, and
then run out again. But of course I didn't see that.
She starts crying and Simon's like, don't worry, don't worry.
We'll take care of you, and you're like, what's going on?

(42:30):
So sure enough, she's the next one to get it.
She's she's they find her, they find her in the book,
they find her dead and and her hand is clutching
some torn money and so so now we've got how
many we've got we're two bodies and then that could

(42:53):
have so Power was like, okay, great, So now I'm
questioning about you murder. So he's continued to question everybody
and Miss Auduborn and this is the thing, Okay, I
love this scene. I think, I mean because I mean,
it's funny. I'm sorry, but it is funny. It's tragic,
but it's also it's also a little funny. Miss Auduborn
comes running in. She is so excited as she has

(43:15):
to talk to Paro right right now. She's like, I've
done it. I've solved this murder. I've done it. She's
like you could see like the dollar signs in her
eyes and the fame and the fortune that's gonna be
follow her. She's so excited. She said, I figured out
who did it. I know who did it. I know
who killed the maid, and I saw it, so it's
it could only have been. And I've got all the
pieces of the puzzle, and the murder is and a
shot rings out and she's dead head and she is

(43:40):
now gone, and Paro is like great, awesome, And now
I have three murders on my hands and people are
getting a littleset with Paro. He's not solving this murder
fast enough. And there's the bodies are piling up, and
so anyway, I'm gonna go. There's lots of fun details
of chasing and miss mistaken identities and.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
The stolen the stolen necklace, and then the necklace.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Stole is the whole thing. They find the necklace, it's
but it's not the real necklace. It's fakes. And then
then the real necklace mysteriously reappears. Lots of fun stuff.
So okay, again we're gonna spoil everything.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Right, We'll cut to the chase, because yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Here's the deal. Because very similar to the last story
that we talked about, the we have a secret couple.
So Jackie and Simon were never not together. The whole
thing was a plan to secure them with cash for life,
so and Jackie was the mastermind. So again it's the

(44:47):
simplest solution. The woman who said, hey, I'm gonna shoot
her through the head is the one who shot her
through the head. Jackie wanted Simon, wanted them to have money.
So she knew that Lynette because she knows Lynette really well.
She knows if I put if I put this man
in Lynette's path, She's gonna swipe him. And that's exactly

(45:08):
what she did. So you, you, Simon, you snag Lynnette,
get her to marry you. Then we'll get rid of her,
and you will get all of her cash and we
will be set for life. You will eventually rediscover your
love for me, and we'll get we'll get remarried, and
we'll live off of Lynette's cash from here on out.
How about that? So it was all very carefully planned.

(45:33):
Let me see if I remember all of the details.
So Jackie, when she shoots Simon in the lounge in
front of witnesses, she shoots Blakes. So he pretends to
be shot right, and the quote unquote blood on the
hanky is actually nail polished, and so he's like ah ah,

(45:56):
and so he says tells everybody to get the doctor.
So they all leave him alone in the lounge while
they rush to get the doctor. He in his stocking feet,
so nobody hears him. He then runs into Lynette's room
because she's taken a senative so she is sound asleep.
He shoots her in the head and then runs back
to the lounge, wraps the gun in a scarf to

(46:20):
muffle the sound, and shoots hisself himself in the leg.
So when the doctor comes back, he now has a
genuine gunshot wound. He also makes it look as though
only two fire, only two shots have been fired out
of the gun instead of three. And then so now
he has an alibi and Jackie has an alibi. So

(46:42):
the timing of the murder, because again we don't have
the same amount of science that we have now, so
the timing of the murder is not as as clear
as it is as it would be today. So so yeah,
so Simon is actually the one who shot Lynnette and Jackie,

(47:03):
but at Jackie is the one who orchestrated the whole thing.
She is the mastermind. And Poirot does again the whole thing.
Get everybody in the room and explain how you could
have done it, and you could have done it, and
also you could have done it but no, actually it's
it's who we thought it was all along. It's Jackie.
Jackie and Simon. Jackie and Simon, and Simon completely crumbles

(47:24):
like a house of cards. Yes, I did it. I
did it. I did it. And Jackie's like, uh, really
this guy. And so the police, you know, now we
have Now we've got three bodies on board, and they
arrange for the police to be meeting them at the
next port to arrest Jackie and Simon, and Jackie says,
can I at least say goodbye to him? And they're like, yeah,

(47:47):
we suppose. I guess you did it all for love.
And then she, very quickly before anybody could stop her,
shoot Simon shoots herself. Now we got five bodies, and
that's the end of the story. Now in I think
there's a cup, and there's a few people on the
board who do find on board the ship, who do
find love and do so there are some there are
some happy endings among all of the the very tragic

(48:12):
of deaths that happen on the ship. But that's the
end of the story. I mean, that's it's so much fun.
And she takes you on this like whole thing, and
all the like the exotic locations and all of that,
all for it to be the person that you thought
it was going to be from the very beginning. Yeah,
there you go. I get the Christie love it.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
And it's been adapted many, many, many, many times, so
many times. I was looking at IMDb and Margo. We
both love BritBox and they have the David Suchet versions
of Poirot. So I saw that version of this and
the Yeah with Emily. And it's also the woman who
played Vera in Dolores Claiborne. Yes, she played. She's in

(48:52):
there too. It's a great cast. It's really well.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
So the woman who we decided to discover this year for
this episode is the one from Kenneth Brown I was
released in twenty twenty two. I don't remember being knocked
out by it when I first saw it. I liked
Murder on the Orient Express very very much and I
was looking forward to it. I don't think I hated it.
We're going to talk about now because I think we

(49:17):
have maybe I think I liked it a little bit
more than you did. This version.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
I like Kenneth Broanna. I just like his ideas. I
think he's an interesting excerpt too.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
I just I don't know. I just have a hard
time getting on board with his plaro. I don't know
what it is.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
It's different.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I know it's a different take, and I don't know
why my mind is resistant to it, but it is.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
So let's play the trailer. This is yeah, yeah, So
this is the twenty twenty two trailer, and we'll get
right into this version, this adaptation.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the newlyweds, mister and missus
Simon Doyle.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
You must meet acute baro.

Speaker 7 (50:02):
My congratulations.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
It's only the greatest detective alive.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
I suspect you invited me for reasons other than the
fun you had something.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
We have the Carnack all to ourselves, a chef and
enough champagne to fill the nile.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
She it shn't you when you have money?

Speaker 7 (50:23):
No one is ever really your friend.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
It's too late to change events.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
It's time to face the consequence.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
Someone is dead, The quin is murder again.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
The murderer is one or you.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
Were you aware of any grudges?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Madam is used to getting what she wants again. I
don't feel safe here. I don't feel safe with any
of them.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
There are so many conflicting hates and jealousies.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
Oh, I like this, did you see or hear anything?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
I did not trust her. I still don't.

Speaker 7 (51:12):
What did you do last night? You accuse me of murder?
He accuses everyone of murder. It is a problem, I admit.
The murther was methodically to him.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
If you are mad?

Speaker 7 (51:32):
Can I not trust you?

Speaker 4 (51:33):
What do you want me to say?

Speaker 7 (51:38):
Someone else is dead? You my eyes love the doors.
No murderer is here, and we'll stay here.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
It's a good trailer. It's a great trailer. Good use
of depeche Mode. I didn't even remember that. I was like,
that's pretty damn good. So there's a right off the bat.
Let's just say there's a couple of canceled people that
are in this production that are it's Armie Hammer. We
all heard Armie Hammer story and Russell Brand, who's just
been indicted for sexual assault. He's going to be going

(52:23):
for trial for that. Army's in there. You can't help
because he plays Simon On Russell Brand. They have him
dressed up in a certain way. I didn't even know
it was him for a second.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
There.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
He's much different than he is. I get it to
the Greek and stuff like that. Yeah, I did, but anyway,
so you do have to understand that. But they've made
some really interesting choices in here, and they've combined some
characters and instead of having in the book he has Race,
who's is like he's like a secret service guy that's
like his you know whatever. Here he has a friend

(52:56):
named Book and his play by Tom Bateman, and he
was all a murder on the Orient Express. So and
he So he and his mother Euphemia, who's played by
Annette Benning, they meet up in Egypt at the Nile.
We have Ali Fazal is Andre Oh, Andrew Katchadorian. We

(53:19):
have Dawn French.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Yes, oh, we forgot to mention. I was gonna say
we forgot can you hear me? Yeah? Did I get disconnected? Okay,
I was. I'm so sorry to interrupt. But an important
character we forgot to mention was Uncle Andrew in the book. So,
uncle Andrew is Lynette Ridgeways. He's not really her uncle,

(53:45):
he's her financial advisor. And we learned that he uh
because she married Simon without telling anybody. They don't announce
the wedding until they're going on their honeymoon and Uncle
Andrew shows up in Egypt, like, oh, I didn't know
you were here, and hey you got married? Why hey,

(54:06):
why are you since we ran into each other, you know,
I just happened to have these estate papers if you
wouldn't mind just signing them while we're here. So we
learned that Uncle Andrew has been rather than being somebody
that Lynette has taken advantage of, or her family has
hurt or taken a bead, he is taking advantage of Lynette.

(54:27):
He's been embezzling from her, and he needs her to
sign some papers so that he doesn't get found out.
And spoiler alert, he does get founded, right, of course
he does. So, So that character of Uncle Andrew is
played by Ali Fazzle. Like you just mentioned here, he's
Lynette's cousin Andrew, which I really like. I really like

(54:49):
that as a choice.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Oh, I love it. So we have down French and Saunders.
They were sounders are in this they're Marie von Schuyler
and her nurse, but they're all so lovers. Galagadott is
our Lynette Ridgeway, so in all the other versions, she's
this platinum blonde but we get Galagadott in her Israeli
accent here. Armie Hammer is Simon Rose, Leslie is Louise,

(55:14):
Emma McKay is Jacqueline Jackie or is it Mackie Jackie
de belle Fort. I'm sorry, they have very successful careers.
Sophie Okinado is Salome. So she's a jazz singer and
I think she's based on Big Mama Thornton. Also sister
Rosetta Tharp Tharp who was a jazz guitarist and probably

(55:38):
really invented rock and roll. She's like before Rocket eighty
and all that. Yeah, so she's she's a big deal.
And then Letitia Costa that Leticia Costa, Letitia right plays Rosie.
That's her niece, but she's also her business manager. And
Susannah Fielding is Catherine. So this the open. I'd like

(56:00):
to talk about the opening only because Brono wants to
bring some backstory of Poi ro you know, that's going
to be his death defining thing. That it's like because
everyone I think knows David Soouchet mainly as Poirot. I
mean people that are of the Christie Peeks And I
said I posted in the Facebook group there's going to
be a show coming out, like he's going to be
traveling to all the places that I get the Christie Wood.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
I'm so excited, very exciting. There is an episode of
the David Souchet series that alludes to his young love
when he's like a young officer. I can't remember which
one it is, which of the episodes that it is,
but as I said, this is these are little details

(56:44):
about Puio that get sprinkled in the novels, kind of
just throughout all of the novels. But it's not something
that we necessarily get in any of the adaptations unless
you have something like this series where we have the
time to really explore it. So I do really like
that choice to have just have like a like a

(57:06):
little prologue back, yeah, about him.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
And so he's so it's World War One and he's
fighting with the French, and he comes up with a
plan to beat the Germans, like to sneak on them
ahead of time, and so they they do and they're successful,
but unfortunately his commander is killed because he zigged when
he should have zagged. Basically, he winds up in a

(57:31):
hospital and he has scars on his face from this
from the the from the action, and he wakes up
and this woman he's madly in love with sees him,
and she says, he's basically like, you know, go away,
you don't want to be with me. I'm you know,
he's been through some stuff, he's been through some trauma,
and he's got this horrible injury on his face. And
she says to him, well, you could grow a big mustache.

(57:54):
And she loves him, you could tell, like she really
loves him. But it doesn't work out. And so this,
this love that he lost in his life is part
of one of the many things that kind of motivates
him as a person. So he comes across as very
fastidious and a loner and peculiar and you know, I
don't need people. I'm just you know, I just keep

(58:15):
to myself. But he is a very lonely man, and
he does recognize some people are very happy and some
people aren't.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah, and it also explains, you know, his weakness, because
I mean, if you want, he would call it that,
I think for young love, Like he just cannot resist
helping young people in love.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
He doesn't want them to make a mistake he did.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
He doesn't want them to make mistakes exactly, and so
he really empathizes. He empathizes even though he knows that
what Lynette did was wrong and mean and cruel, he
nevertheless is like, oh, but they're in love. And he also,
on the other hands, emphasis, what's the word I'm thinking of?

(59:00):
He has empathy, empathizes. Oh my gosh, I suddenly blanked
on empathizes. He empathizes with Jackie because she's had her
heart broken, you know, and he's and he sees that
she's about to make some very very bad life choices,
and he's trying to help her. So but but I
like so having that prologue really helps us understand in

(59:22):
a way that you don't necessarily get in the other
versions of this. So I really appreciated that choice.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
It's it's for people so that like just aren't you know,
experts on Poirot. I mean, it just will just give
you a little bit of an entryway into, oh, this
is why this man is as quirky as he is.
I get it. And then it doesn't become a distraction.
So yeah, And the jazz music is incredible. The music
in this is so good, and the art direction is great.

(59:50):
I love the boat. I love a lot of things.
The girl deckhands. I guess it's all like female deckhands
that I help with. I guess I was like, this
is great. I mean, I just I think it's incredib
I think I think I was. Let's play the clips
because it opens up with Puaro and book and it's it,
says the Annette Benning. Yeah, we'll play that here.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
She is the only woman I have ever loved.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Mother, Mother, you must meet acute Puaro.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Why he's only the greatest detective alive, he exaggerates.

Speaker 7 (01:00:28):
No, he's quite correct.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Actually, you're quite the most ludicrous man I have ever seen.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
Not the first time I've heard this, and you're in
my views.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Be kind, Mother, Paro.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Here is my friend and he's famous, and he's joining
our dinner tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
Yes, I cannot enthrall. Oh no, not at all. You
bump my stock at the table. It's not just mother
and I on holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
We're celebrating with friends.

Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
It's a wedding party.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Oh is that me? So that's he has a friend
that he's gonna Yeah. Yeah, but we take so they're
taking the place of that. That really weird Mother and
son Allerton in the novel.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
I really like this. This is the choice I really
do like very much. I love them. I think they're
it's just for I love that we have book back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
It's nice that, you know, instead of having in the
novel and in the other adaptation where there's that other
detective that's there that's a friend of Quaro's, we have
we have Buk from from the previous movie. And I
just think that's a great choice. And I love Anett
bending as his mother terrific U.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
She pronounces that she cannot find her red paint and
that she needs to like she needs that from one
of her colors, but she cannot find her red paint.
So we have a jazz singer and her niece. We
have a whole group. We when there's so much chemistry
that they have great chemistry. Galgadot and Simon army Hammer,
they just do they look I mean, they all look

(01:02:01):
beautiful in what they're doing, and everybody's gorgeous. Everybody's insanely beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
I think she's a great choice. I like her. I
like the selection of Galgadot. I'm not at all bothered
by her the accent, it's fine. Who cares she's an
international jazz baby. She My only thing about it is
she's not mean. She's not no, we don't see her,

(01:02:31):
she's we see her being like, oh, Louise will do
all of the work, you know, without me mentioning it
to your ahead of time, like guess what, Louise, you're
packing everybody's bags. But it's not the it's not that
same level of cruelty that Lynette has in the book.
So we the viewer now as opposed to when you're

(01:02:53):
reading the book, like when you're reading the book, like
you do not like Lynette, the reader is not you know,
Lynnette's going to get it and you you you maybe
don't feel bad about that, whereas in this film, like
when she says she's scared, like you feel for her,
like I just feel like there's not it's it's it's

(01:03:16):
much more that she's so beautiful and everybody loves her, like, uh,
what's your name? Russell Brand's character is just in love
with her, like she didn't really like she they broke
it off, but it wasn't like she was just mean
and cruel to him, and you know, she she's much
less less less mean, she's much less of a villain

(01:03:39):
in this and I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Yeah, okay, yeah, fair enough. So we have so Jackie
does show up, and I kind of want to play
this clip too, because like we were just talking about
how gorgeous everybody is and the art direction of this film.
I mean it is pretty spectacular.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
It's gorgeous. Yeah, they really spent a lot of time,
you could tell, and I really it's gorgeous. Here we go,
you know, Bradana looking good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Time come everyone, lets me tell?

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Then you take me too good? Oh she's followed us again, so.

Speaker 7 (01:05:05):
Less three, don't tell. That's too berieved at everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
How's a Nette?

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
This is a Hollywood production. I mean they're gonna be
really is like that. That's my whole point. Like it's
just like next level gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Yeah, but yeah, I again't like I have these just
mm hmm. I feel like another thing like with like
with Lynette not being mean enough. And while I love
absolutely love Sophie Okonodo and Letisia Wright as the otterborns

(01:06:10):
uh and I love, I love the characters. I love
their story, I like their I love Letitia Write's chemistry
with Tom Bateman and a couple. They're a couple, and
Sophie Okonodo has like a sort of flirty thing going
on with and I like that too. I think I
really like all of that. But the fact that we

(01:06:35):
don't have oh and then also I'm wanna talk also
about Don French and Jennifer Saunders. So again we're kind
of shifting playing, playing a little bit of a mix
and match with the characters, which is very par for
the course for a Christy adaptation. We have Jennifer Sonders
playing Missus Schuyler, and Missus Skuyler here is also the

(01:06:57):
same character as that Lord Dawlish in the book, who
is he's a nobility, but he is also a socialist,
and so she's that character. And so the fact that
we have her being that character, and we have Salome
being the blues artist that she is, who's a very

(01:07:19):
serious artist, and I like both of those characters very much.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
But.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
We don't have we don't have the rich Missus Schuyler
who's also a kleptomaniac, and we don't have the Missus Auduborn,
the ridiculous romance writer. And those two characters, the fact
that they are comic relief isn't really the right word.
But they are the ones who are really lampooning this

(01:07:51):
class of people, and we don't really have that element.
I feel like in this movie we we are, we
don't really have making fun of the rich. We're more
like it's more eye candy and we're it's a little
more like aspirational than it is critical of that set

(01:08:15):
of people. And I really feel like we're missing that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Salami is interesting because you know, she is a black
character in a Christy novel. She's she I love the
fact that he talks about her turban. He goes, aren't
those out of style? And she's like, oh, I'm wearing it.
But she's got herself a little bit of a handgun
in there. I mean, it's a statu I love all
her sins. Yeah, she's she's been through some stuff. But

(01:08:42):
the thing is is that I never think either one
of them would have anything to do with the murders.
So I'm just so I'm kind of like, you know,
I it would have been more yeah, like if if
they had, if they were a little bit more about
making sharp observations about the wealthy, the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Worst another person in there, like, you know, we're playing
mix and match, like you can't tell me you didn't
have the budget to have like you know, even one
like you know, the stupid you know, rich guy who
is on his sixth wife or something, you know, something
to give us a little bit of that element. I

(01:09:17):
feel it's really missing, and so because of that, it
doesn't have quite the the levity that that it doesn't
quite have. There's a little bit of a lightness missing
out of it. Even though I do like Kenneth Bronog's

(01:09:39):
Puaro in this movie a lot more than I did,
and I think it's much more developed here, and I
end that prologue is really nice. There's a lot of
things I like about this movie, but I do feel
like we are really missing that element that so many
Christie works have of not putting the he's wealthy, wealthy

(01:10:01):
people up on a pedestal. I think we've done that
here and and so it doesn't give it. It doesn't
bubble along as as steadily as it I think it
would have otherwise. Although, like I say, I love what
they did with Skylar Embowers and I love what they
did that with the Outborns, I feel like we could

(01:10:23):
have just added given us somebody back to give us
that little element in to be the ridiculous. We're not
getting that ridiculousness in any way here, and that's I
feel like that's a missing ingredient.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. So we do lose the
maid and her body is found. They he does go
through the whole rigamarole of deducing who did what and
to whom, and it ends with and I like the
way it ends in there's like an interrogation room. Basically

(01:11:03):
it's the you know, one of the decks on the ship.
But in the end, it is who we said it was.
It's it's Simon and Jackie. They they were in cahoots
and he's basically saying to them, well, you know, when
we get to port you're gonna get arrested and sorry,
but that's the way it goes. And then she sneaks
and has a gun and then she was able to

(01:11:24):
shoot both of them, and so because she's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
An expert, she is an expert sharp shooter. But she
doesn't say I don't think in this film, I don't
think she mentions that. No, But but it's something that's
like very pointedly said in the book, right, And that's
why she was able to shoot in this case book.
In the book, it's Missus Auduborn, but she shoots. I

(01:11:49):
mean that's a very precise shot, yes, to get him
like right in the throat like that. But it's because
she's such an expert markswoman. And but yeah, I mean
there are many many I just think it's I love
the ship. The ship is beautiful, beautiful, the lighting is gorgeous,
the costumes are gorgeous, the music is perfect. I love

(01:12:09):
the addition of the jazz and the blues. Very different
from when we talked about last week. Even under the
Sun where we had it was all very Cole Porter,
you know, instrumental, which worked very well for that. But
I like because she is an American and she's supposed
to be an American, and it's that nice. It's a
nice element that's added with the jazz music. I mean,

(01:12:34):
I liked it. I liked it. It's just not my
I have to say, and I want When we talked
about the David Suchet one just briefly, which is also
very good, it's not anywhere near the production value of this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
It's a few thousand less, I would say, than the
budget they had for sche just a snutch. But it's
great to have all these British character actors doing this.
Oh yes, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
I gotta say, though, I think my favorite one is
the Peter used to have one. Yeah, I think that's
my favorite version. I as we've said many times, I
just want a movie with Betty Davis and Maggie Smith
as Skyler and Bowers just sniping and Maggie Smith manhandling
Betty Davis, and I'm here for it. I do love

(01:13:22):
the way that they did Skyler Enbauers though in this
film I thought was was very good. Although I mean,
you have French and Saunders and they're not funny, very funny.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
No, and that's the whole point is there in their
comedy duo.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
And I I mean, I cannot tell you how much
I adore French and Saunders. I think I've seen every
single thing they have ever, ever, ever done. Is she
supposed to be American?

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
I think?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Is that an American accents?

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Can you play the clip it's called the last scene
because we do?

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Yeah, yeah, let's let's look at it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:24):
I'm sorry you have become so wealthy. Nothing I can fix.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
You might just keep.

Speaker 7 (01:14:29):
Something he would arrest me now.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
No, so long as you settled her affairs honestly and
pay back what you owe.

Speaker 7 (01:14:54):
You returned to London, Dtor. There's nothing for me in
London anymore. West Africa, Paps, I can do some good there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
I wish I'd never got to see you work.

Speaker 6 (01:15:54):
Perhaps, so, Yeah, it ends on a down note, I know,

(01:16:27):
But I mean, of all of the I must say,
of all of the versions of that scene, that one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
That's really well done, beautifully done. It's beautifully done. I
like how they're wrapped up as mummies basically because they're
in each I know. I thought that was yeah, really
interesting cast and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
I do really love that scene. I think it's so
like to start with the aerial and this and the gorgeous,
very interesting things that he does in this film, and
with the there's a lot of aerial shots. There's a
lot of shots from below the water surface of like
the anchor dropping and the ship and people looking into

(01:17:08):
the water, and there's a lot of stuff like from
underneath the water, which is very interesting. Yeah, that scene
is absolutely stunning. It's it's really beautiful. I do think
that of all of the versions, that's the best version
of that scene that I've seen.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
But book or movie, I guess I'll go for the
book because that's the uh, it's where we get all
the ideas for the other ones.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Yeah, I'm going to go for the book too. I
think the characters. I think the characters are are more fun.
It's more fun. Like again, Death on the Nile of
the book. You're gonna want to read it over and
over and over again. I don't know that I want
to watch this over and over again, right right, that's
a bummer.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Yeah, but it's really well, I mean, and then there's
a scene after that where he's at a night club
where she's what I love Yeah, I loved it too,
and I think he shaves his mustache. But it does
you know, you don't know, like is she there? Does
she know that he's there? Are they really meeting up?
Or is he just giving to it a shot? He's
shooting a shot finally, I don't know, you don't know. Yeah,
it's a little sadder, but I don't know. But I

(01:18:22):
thought it was well worth the time. And oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's a gorgeous. It's a gorgeous film. It's just not
it's a super bummer and it's not as like it's
not as like Real Housewives.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Yeah, it doesn't have that element to it, which I
I miss, but but I do. I would even go
so far say I like it better than the David
Suchet version.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
So let's talk about what we're doing next. This is
very exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
So it's based on The Mousetrap, which is her play.
The movie is called See How They Run, and it
has Sam Rockwell and sher Saronan. Is that how you
say it? Ruth Wilson, Yeah, Adrian Brody, Charlie Cooper. It's
got a really interesting cast. It's from twenty twenty two.
It's very easy to get your hands on. It's at play.

(01:19:23):
Those are usually for us, really quick to read, and
it's one of the most successful plays of all time,
if not the most successful play of all time, the
mouse Trap.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
It's certainly the longest running play, yes in the world,
in history.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
So that's coming up next. But as you heard from
us before, we're always looking for suggestions, so please reach
out to us all those places I mentioned at the
top of the show. Our email once again is Book
Versus Movie Podcast at gmail dot com. And Margo. Where
can they find you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
You can find me online at coloniabook dot com and
all my social media call outs are at She's Not
Your Mama and where can They find You?

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
You can find me at Brooklynfitchick dot com. I'm at
Brooklyn fit Chick for threads and Instagram, and I'm a
Brooklyn Margo for TikTok and blue Sky and at my
name for YouTube. My name is Margot Donna Hue. All right, everyone,
thank you so much for listening. We'll be back soon
with a new episode.

Speaker 7 (01:20:15):
Miss sorry about the high drama last night. Do you
think about giving us another to people have much too
kind to strangers? Thank you, You are right, mister and

(01:20:36):
missus Doyle. I'm so sorry. Actually, Pio, we wanted to
ask for your help. It's a Jackie develop for She's
followed us every step of our honeymoon. She and I
we were engaged. You see, has she meant any specific threats?

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
She doesn't say a thing. She only shows up and
sits and stars.

Speaker 7 (01:20:59):
You always no key for me too, except she has
committed no crime

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