I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997) Replay Jennifer Love Hewitt, Sarah Michelle Geller, & Freddie Prinze

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
No, don't.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Don't even he was there and he was wearing your jacket.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Berry.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Where'd he go?

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Did the crabs carry him away?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I swear to God, I believe it.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
He took the body. He came here, he took the body.
Why would he do that?

Speaker 5 (00:23):
I don't know?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Berry?

Speaker 5 (00:25):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Why would he try to run you over? Why did
he make coleslaw and Ellen's headies?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Come on, Julie, let's go back to the house.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Where's your jacket?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Berry?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Don't you see he's got us? Now? Okay, this is
exactly what he wants. We can't go to the police.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
Not now.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
He's made sure of that.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
He's just out there and he's watching us and waiting.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
What are you waiting for?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Why are you?

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Hello? And welcome to Book versus Movie.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
This is a podcast where rebeat books that have been
adopted in movies and then we try to decide which
we like better at the book of the movie. Margot
piat coloniabook dot com. And this is my good friend
and co host Margo d of Brooklyn Fitchick Hire you one.
So it is October and in October, if you're new,
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Then you probably surmised that in October we like to

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Speaker 5 (04:30):
Marco. I have a question before we begin, what are
you waiting for?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
What is he waiting for?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Jennifer Love Hewitt and her nineties crop top heying, what
are you waiting for? And she even says in the
note says that she says like I'm not sure why
she says that, it's like because it makes for great ad,
Like you just put that in the trailer.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
It's a trailer moment.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It's a trailer moment. Yeah, we're talking about Lois Duncan's
I know what you did last summer today?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
So, yeah, this book I didn't. First of all, I
did not. I've never seen this movie. I've never seen
this movie or read this book.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
It came out.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think I had, you know, I was already married.
I'd just gotten married least seven. I'm not going to
go see a teen summer movie now. So i'd never
seen it before, although I knew, you know, it was
a like a it was a cultural like in such
a nineties thing that I knew what it was about.
And there's certainly been many, many, many parodies. I was

(05:36):
just watching before we got on the air the this
it's very dark humor, but the scary movie parody of
that moment is so hilarious. That actress she spins around
like six times, what are you waiting more? But I
had never ever read this book, and the book has

(05:58):
been around since this Vindie's and we're going to talk
about sometimes she's called Lois Carrie and sometimes she's called
Lois Duncan. I think Lois Duncan is her is her
real name, and Lois Carrey is a is a pen name.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
And writing you know, kind of ya horror.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I think we can say I'm a little bit familiar
with her work, but not that much. As I said,
I'd have never read this book before now, unfortunately, and
so I feel a little bit, a little bit as
though it's an unfair thing that you and I could
only get our hands on the quote unquote updated version
of this book that they they kind of revamped it

(06:43):
to bring it into the twenty first century after the
after the movie's success, And I really wish I could
have read the seventies version.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, sometimes we're able to get quite often, by the way,
we're able to get like a cheer paperbag. Yeah, we'll
get them because we like to support the local shops
or the stores that sell them. So we're totally okay
with that. And I like to look at the original source,
even if it has some hokey expressions or whatever. That
doesn't matter to me. It's just the story. So should
we talk about Lois Duncan a little bit?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, let's talk about her.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
So Lois Duncan Steinmitz. She was born Philadelphia, PA in
nineteen thirty four. Her parents are both professional photographers. Lois.
You could see pictures of her. Her family moves to
Florida at some point, and her parents used to photograph
the Ringling Brothers and Barnman Billy circuits quite a bit.

(07:34):
And she was on the cover of Colliers magazine, which
is a big magazine for the time. Very pretty.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Easter is a model a lot. She's very cute, you know, young,
it's very kind of fresh faced. Grace Kelly definitely that
kind of Grace Kelly energy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, so she and she was known as Lois Kelly
when she was writing. She sold her first story when
she's still in high school. She goes to college, she
gets married, drops out of college, but she continually writes,
and she did covered. Excuse me, There's Hotel for Dogs,
which was the first one which we were going to
put on our lists because that was a movie that
just came out not too long ago. I think Killing

(08:10):
Mister Griffith, I know, was a movie that was covered
all of the time. And I know what you did
last summer also Summer of Fear. I unlike Margo, so
I do like my horror books and stuff. I also
was really just into supernatural horror when I was a kid,
not so much the knifey, slashy stuff. I liked possessions

(08:31):
and you know the twin sister that nobody knew about,
that was raised in a shack and then comes back,
you know, while you're in college, you know, trying to
pledge to a dorm or whatever. Some of her I mean,
killing mister Griffith stranger with my face. I remember that
when I was a kid, and just wrote and wrote
and wrote and wrote. She has she's in the Grand

(08:52):
she has the Grand Master Award from the Mystery Writers
of America. And as Margo said, she she just sold
very well throughout the seventies and then the eighties. This
movie comes out in ninety seven. Her daughter, Caitlin was
murdered in nineteen eighty nine, and it's in Albuquerque, New Mexico,
And unfortunately she didn't know what happened to her daughter.

(09:15):
She never She had wrote a book called Who Killed
My Daughter, and it was about the investigation because the
police were just saying, like, well, it's just a random
thing and didn't really investigate it. So she had to
get her powers into that to get it going. A
man has confessed and then he recanted his confession, but
he's on trial right now. But Lois in ninety seven

(09:36):
when she saw this movie. She had sold the rights
years and years before and forgot about it, and they
had made a couple of movies, but they were like
TV movies, and like sevent I love seventies and eighties
horror TV movies because they're not too gory.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
They're so tame.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
They're so tame, but it's just it's exciting enough you're
a kid like I was, and you have like slumber
party or something, it's just like perfect for that. So
she goes to see this movie and it's a slash
them up and because it came out it's like Kevin
Williamson person. But it also this is a year after Scream,
and Scream changed everything. Horror movies had been jettison to
the wayside for many years, quite.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
A while, like we had the whole like when you
and I were in our teens, Like we had the
whole Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween and all that kind
of stuff. But yeah, you're right, it became sort of
like corny and passe.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
They formulaic, they didn't put money into them, no.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
And people people, young people were sort of like, I
don't want to watch that corny crap, you know anymore.
And so, yeah, you're right when Scream happened because they
had didn't they have Drew Barrymore.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Oh yeah, it's West Craven and yeah it had huge stars.
It killed the spoiler for a Scream, they kill off
Drew Barrymore in the first ten minutes, much like in
Psycho when Janet Lee is killed. It's the same thing,
like you watch this movie and it's cute, little young
Drew Barrymore and you don't expect it. And it became
this huge hit. So then he went back to this

(11:05):
script he wrote in the first place, and this there's
also a Joan Crawford movie about I think it's from
the sixties where she has two daughters that are calling
people crank calling people and it's like I know who
you are and I know what you.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Did, Yes, something like that.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So this is like a the story is not that
super original. I mean it is. There are stories out
there about people who innocently kill someone or innocently her
harmor person, but they don't want to take responsibility for it,
so they take off and then there's vengeance. So this
is this is that kind of story, and it's the
same you have your hot actors and everything like that.

(11:44):
So it made a lot of money, and I think
she went back to her material. She was offended by
the fact that they made it so slashery because of
what being a murdered child. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, and we'll talk about in a second. We'll get
you the differences because there are some major differences between
the book and the movie. The book is not nearly
so slashy, as in fact, it's not slashy at all.
The only murderers are the teenagers who hit the person
with the car, and we'll talk about that. But as

(12:16):
opposed to you now, again, as Bargo said, this is
after scream and Scream was like slash slash slash, jump
scare slash slash slash, and so it's so they take
that source material and add the scream, you know, slasher
element into that story and twists and turns of the
plot and the killers this person, no, it's actually that person,

(12:38):
and all the twists of that.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
But the book is not like that.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
The book is pretty straightforward. But let's okay, let's talk
about this book. It's nineteen seventy three.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Let me say also, she so after this happens and
she realizes killing mister Griffith is going to come out,
there's another movie, and then she she gives interview because
if you sell the version I had in my kindle,
they have an interview with her. And she after these
movies came out, she decided to go back to her
source material and update them all because in the seventy

(13:12):
three version, the character the lead Julie James, wears a jumpsuit,
which nobody wears a jumpsuit anymore, and just little things
like we.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Didn't I just say we did in the nineties. They
came back in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
And I don't think it just it needs it. You
don't need to add social media to the mix. You
don't need to add cell phones because if you just
tell me this is nineteen seventy three when it's taking place,
I understand there's not going to be a flip phone involved,
Like you know, nobody's going on AOL to look something up.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
I mean, it's and also like we're just inviting plot holes.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's just inviting the plot holes that are already there.
But you can kind of like, like I said, these
books were created for a kid like me that was
a bookworm, but like like that thrill of scary stuff
but not too scary, that kind of thing. And it
you know, the paperback section at the library was where
I hung out, Like I just have a stack of them.
So the story is nineteen seventy three. It's a thriller.

(14:05):
It's about four kids that are in a car and
they're driving, and it's they're excited and partying and having
a great time. And in our version, by the way,
she also says they're smoking weed when they're driving, and
I'm not sure if that's what happened originally, but they
run over a kid by accident who's on his bike.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
And the big difference Number one in the book.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
It is a child, it's a kid. Yeah, and he
is definitely dead.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
He's dead, deader than a door nail. And so they
realize like, oh man, what's going to happen? And yeah,
and I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
So it is a similar situation to the movie in
that they're all all of these teenagers. It's two couples,
two couples who are in the car, and all of
them are like just finishing high school and to go
to college. Right, So that's that very kind of important
transitional point in your life. Like they've basically they've got

(15:06):
their whole lives ahead of them, and they've done this
awful thing accidentally.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, it's it's it's a complete total accident. But they're
all thinking about the consequences, like what if we are arrested,
what if we go to trial? What I mean? And
they're freaked out. So they basically kind of pull the
child over to the side, they call it anonymously, they
call for an ambulance, and then they decide, Okay, if

(15:30):
none of us ever says anything, nobody will ever find out.
And they say there was some paint from the bike
that was on the car, so they repainted the car.
And then one kid goes to the West Coast, she
goes to school in New York. His girlfriend, one girl's
really wealthy. She doesn't go to college. He's just on TV,
like just which like that would be my dream life.

(15:51):
She's like like sunbathing and on TV and just like
not working very hard. And then the other guy use
was like the football star and he's like going to college.
So they're just they kind of go off in their
own ways, and then they meet up a year later
and the girl comes back home and that's our lead
Julie and her mother is like, Julie, you're so pale

(16:12):
and you used to be so pretty. And Julie is
just struggling because she's got PTSD from this experience. Yes,
and she can't tell her mother, by the way, so.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, none of them have told any that. They haven't
told anybody. But again a big, big difference is they
do call an ambulance, Yes, the off chance you may
still be alive.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
The least you could do.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Really, it is literally the least you could do. Especially
in a day of mobile phones.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
We have the technology, but but you know, in nineteen
seventy three, like that means you're walking to a payphone
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
So but it's not going to be like easy for
people to pick you up like that. They didn't just
like trace every call back then, so you you know,
just leave a call and hang up and then absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm sure that happened, and so yeah, it's so big
difference number one, it's a child.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Big difference. Number two, they do call an ambulance.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Big difference Number three is Julie, our main character in
the movie. We see Julie and after this trauma, like
she's really struggling. She's kind of in free fall. She's
not doing well in her classes. She knows she's having
a rough time, and her mom doesn't really know why.

(17:28):
In the book, she's also struggling and she's her mom
is like, you're pay also a lot of the same things,
but it's because she's only doing her schoolwork. Like she's
like hyper focused on her schoolwork and not her life
at all. She's completely avoiding her life by throwing herself
into her schoolwork.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
So it's a little.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Bit different kind of a way of dealing with what happened.
They all have different The way the kids in the
book deal with this is so different than the way
they deal with it in the in the movie, Uh yeah,
they they actually have the sense of like, we are
not doctors. We can't tell if this child is alive
or not.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Let's call an.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Ambulance, as opposed to the movie went we're like, yeah,
we know biology, surely I suppose of this body.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
It's okay, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
But so anyway, and they know they know because it's
a news story as it would be, especially in a
small town. They know that it's the name of the child.
They know who the family is, like, they know a
lot more that that they're living with.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
And we learn in.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, so Julie, Yeah, Julie is basically like she's she's
getting ready to as we say, getting ready to go
to college, and her mom's like, you know, I hope
you like part of college is having fun and like
making friends and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
I hope you're not gonna, you.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Know, just be focused on your schoolwork and trying to
get her to see, you know that there's more life
out there. But of course the mom has no idea
what's going on. And Julie gets this note in the
mail that says, I know what you did last summer,
and she immediately freezes, and she goes and goes to
the other three because they've all kind of parted ways.

(19:17):
They've all like, we don't know each other anymore after this,
But she goes to each of them and I can't
remember if do they all get a letter?

Speaker 5 (19:24):
I don't remember anymore.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I think they do. I mean, so, yeah, Barry comes.
Barry is the football star, right, and ray Or Roy
raised the boyfriend.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Friend and he's moved to the West Coast.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah, but he wasn't going to school. He was kind
of just drifting around, which a lot of people did
in the seventies.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yeah, it wasn't an unusual that's not unusual.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Like he's just going to find himself in a VW
bus for a couple of years, like it's whatever. But
he comes back so that she gets this note, and
then she reconnects with all of them to find out
if they've also gotten a note, and they're eventually finding
out from one another that well, so, Julie, I'm sorry.
Helen is the beauty queen. She lives in this apartment

(20:15):
complex and she's on TV and she stays at the
nice apartment complex where there's all these school teachers and
there's this one handsome guy that shows up and flirts
with her, but she's still dating Barry. But they they're
still together, but they hate each other like they need
to break up.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, they're just.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
They're trauma bonded, basically, is what we say now.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And meanwhile, Julie, So, a year goes by, I'm sorry,
a year goes by between this this hit and run
and when we.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Pick up with them and they get the letters and.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Julie and Ray so, Ray has gone to the West Coast,
so they are no longer together, and Julie as a
new boyfriend whose name I have forgotten, Buddy.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Buddy Collingsworth or Collie. It's like it's Bud and Collie.
He also in the book we have, he served in
a rock and then he's just come home right after
his brother. But he doesn't know we don't know his
full deal, but he was but he's just come home
from a rock and he has a bit of PTSD.

(21:25):
He's got a bit of like adjusting to life. Back
in the original story, it was Vietnam that he came
back from. But they're starting to date each other and
her mom is actually like, okay, good, She's starting to
get out of the house and have fun and that
kind of thing. Helen is being threatened, so Alan does
get is being threatened as well, but she's like, she's

(21:46):
at her job, but she flirts with this guy at
the apartment complex and it's like, you even said to me,
you texted me at one point, like you were in
the chapter three or four. You're like, oh, I know
who did it. I know who.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
This is.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Shocking. But there's this handsome guy that hits on Helen
and then he says to Helen, I gotta go because
I got a date tonight, and she goes, oh, well,
I'm hurt you have a date. And then he comes
back to her apartment all like stocky and very controlling,
and he's saying to her, you know, do you just

(22:22):
tease men or do you just lead men on? And
and I don't know, but it's very His behavior is odd.
We also have Barry. Barry's like playing football and then
he's at some party and somebody says, oh, you need
to go to the football field to do something. But
he goes to the football field and he meets somebody

(22:42):
and then he gets shot and he's shot through his body,
like the bullet is stuck in his spine or something.
So he's in the hospital and then he thinks he
could be paralyzed, like his career, his football career is done,
but would he even be allowed to and his parents
says his dad all of a sudden, is like, well,
he's paralyzed. He's gonna have to figure out how to
live on his own now, right mom.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
And basically has like pushed it like pretty much right away,
Yeah okay, and.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Like scolding the mother for being upset, like.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you when I figured it out. Yeah,
chapter three, I figured it out. This is when I
figured it out. They're recounting, so they've all gotten a
letter or something. They've all heard something like that's the thing,
Barry Barry, I remember he got a letter, but he's
something that somebody, he the person who's threatening them, says
like meet me at the meet me by yourself in
the middle of a football field at night. And he's

(23:34):
like okay, and there he goes like thinking like he's
going to handle it somehow.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
But anyway, Julie is is uh.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
They're all going like, well, we haven't told anybody, And
da da and and and Julie said yeah, and we
call an ambulance and and I said, she says, oh right,
she says I sent him. Uh, I sent yellow roses
to the.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Funeral without a note.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Without a note, so nobody could possibly trace it. But like, okay, okay,
So if we're you're okay, That's what I mean about
in biting plotforms.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
These are dumb kids. Let's just say they're dumb, dumb kids.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, let's say in that way it's realistic. Let's say
that it is twenty but it's twenty ten or whatever.
Let's say it is that if you're a not quote
unquote anonymously ordering flowers, how are you doing that? Are
you doing it on the internet, because then it can
be traced. Are you doing it on your cell phone,

(24:38):
because then it can be traced. Unless you're telling me
how you did it in such a way that it
cannot be traced.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
It can be traced.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
And but I know that this as I'm reading this,
I know this book was written in nineteen seventy three,
which means if she had to order flowers for the funeral,
she had to.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Do what go to the flower shop, flower shop and
say I'd like a dozen yellow roses sent to this
funeral home. Yeah, put the name on the card. Yeah,
And there's like it's a small town. It's not like
there's there's a flower shop on every quarter. I mean,
there's only going to be a few places that you go.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I think I would remember if I was working in
a flower shop some teenager coming in and anonymously sending
yellow roses to a child's funeral and not wanting their name.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
But I think I would remember that. Also, this is
like in the papers, Child's family.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, the paper. It was in the papers, like everyone
knows this kid was struck by it was hit and
run and was killed, and nobody knows who did it.
So yeah, they act like teenagers. Let's just be clear,
like they're not super clever, but.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So it's clearly like it's clearly a family member, somebody
close to this child, and so as the book. So
by then I'm like, okay, well whoever was that they
found out by the florist. Well there's this bear, there's
this calling and uh, there's this calling guy, and then
there's the buddy guy and well, you know, not that

(25:59):
I think about it, they're never in the same place
at the same time. And anyway, so spoiler alert, we
spoil everything on this show.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
By the way, if you've never seen this movie.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Or read this book, sorry we're gonna spoil it. So, uh,
it's the same guy. It's the same guy.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Now, this is very different than in the movie as
if you've seen the movie, then it's a bearing in mind.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
That this is a juvenile piece of fiction. I don't
and I don't mean juvenile like immature. I mean it's
written for juveniles, for its young adults, and so you
know it's not going to be Agatha Christie. But but
the you know, the whole thing about the story is

(26:44):
what if what if you know, these teenagers are involved
in this hit and run. It's not just about like,
what if they're involved in this hit and run and
they get away with murder? It's what if they're involved
in this hit and run and somebody connected to the
victim insinuates themselves into each of their lives without them

(27:06):
the four of them knowing about it, not without them
putting it together that it's the same person that's getting
revenge on them. And that's what's interesting about the book
is that this guy has this guy who at first
seems very charming in the apartment complex with Helen and
is also the guy that Julie is dating. Is also

(27:32):
the guy that shoots Barry on the football field because Barry,
I think Barry sees the guy but doesn't know who
he is, has never seen him before, right, so he
can identify him, but just nobody thinks to ask him
to show him photos of anybody. So so, yeah, so

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this guy is wreaking havoc all over the place, and
at one point, the girls and this is similar to
the movie.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
At one point the girls go to don't they go.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
To the kid's family's home. It's not anything like in
the movie, but I feel like.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
They go, yeah, it is David younger brother David.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yes, Julie goes and so Daniel has a sister and
a brother. And Julie goes and talks to Daniel's sister.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Whose name is Missy Meghan or me Meghan, and.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
She kind of gives Julie the low down about like
the impact that this had on the family. But it's
it's a little bit different, you know it basically, like
you know, she she learns about the about the family.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, so it's all the same guy.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
It's the same guy.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, Helen, It's all the same guy, Helen.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
So she she annoys this guy gets jealous of her,
and then at one point she's in her apartment and
there's somebody like sneaking into her apartment, like taking and
that Actually I remember reading this when I was young
and being really kind of scared because he's getting the
hinges off the door and he's coming to get her.
But yeah, jumps out of her window. It is scary,
and she jumps out of a window. I mean, they

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all kind of get away. And then at the end,
Julie is about to go on her on a day
with this guy, and then we find and it switches
the perspective witches from each person. So at one point
we get Julie's mother, and Julie's mother says, when I
have a bad feeling about something, these are the things
that have happened, and she boom boom boom could say
with absolute accuracy. I had a bad feeling that day

(29:32):
and this happens. So she says to Julie, you need
to stay home. I have a bad feeling about this
date tonight. And so she says to her date, who's
Collie for Collingsworth. He says, oh, I'll just walk you.
He just walked me to my car. I just want
to talk to you for a second, and then he
walks her to his car and that's when he tells her,
you know, my younger brother called me Collie because he

(29:54):
couldn't say Collingsworth. And he basically says, that's me. That
was my brother you killed, and I'm getting my revenge
on all of you.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Boys swoop in right, yeah, Ray, and.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, I think it just strucks him out. I think
Ray just knocks them out. And then Julie's mother calls
the cops, and then they send the cops over and
that's when they realize we have to say everything. We
have to just fess up to everything, which would start
in the first place.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
So again the.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Last big difference between the book and the movie. At
the end of the book, the teenagers confess to what
happens while they're all alive, and they confess to what happened.
They finally faced the music for what they did. The
brother goes to jail, presumably for trying to kill all
those people. So, uh so that's the book. As I said,

(30:43):
you know, it's pretty, it's fine. It's it's a little
too easy to figure out for my taste. I feel
like even as a kid, I would have figured it
out real quickly. But as an idea, I think the
idea of having older brother of this child seeking revenge
by insinuating himself into each of their lives as a

(31:07):
different person is very interesting and not at all in
the movie.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
No, And I think if you're like eleven, twelve years old,
it's a great fun read. It's it's yeah, yeah, and
it's got the decent message, you know, like, you know,
go to the cap if.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
They had all, if they had all, if they had
just done that in the first place, you know, the
and we also learned when when Julie goes to talk
to the boys' sister, we also learn that their mother
had like a total breakdown in like an assisted living

(31:46):
situation somewhere, and you know, because she never had any
closure and never knew what happened really and so so yes,
if these teenagers had just been forthcoming in the first
place about it an accident, you know, it's terrible, but
everybody could have gotten therapy a lot sooner, like a

(32:08):
lot less damage could have happened. I mean could have
been saved. You a lot of unnecessary damage could have
been could have been averted. I mean it's horrible already,
so yeah, they didn't have to be as horrible as
it was so anyway, but yeah, I think it's I think,
and it's just scary enough for the age range that

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we're hitting here.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
It's not like there's no blood, there's no knives, there's
no apart from the actual accident itself, like that's the
only Oh well, Barry does get shot, but where is that?

Speaker 5 (32:49):
But he lives, But he lives, and he's he's gonna walk,
he's gonna he's okay.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
So yeah, you know, it's good and I can see
why somebody would option it right away.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Absolutely, it's a great story. As we said when the
screen movie made all the difference in the world, and
I think it was these horror films and made a
lot of money. But like they only put like fifteen
million into this and it came back with I got
one hundred million was the box office. Plus they also
used to sell CDs for the soundtrack, and those used

(33:22):
to sell like crazy for these movies. That was another
thing should we play the trailer and then we'll get
into this movie. So the boy and girl are making
out right when they hear over the radio that this
lunatic killers escape from an insane asylum. That's not the
way it goes.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
The boy goes for help and the girl stays in
the car and she ars is a scratching sound.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
No, he's been decapitated.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
No, he was gutted with a hook. I think he's dead.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
You can't just leave him here. I'll tell me, little
miss pre law, what's the charge for mad slaughter?

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Make a pact right here, and now we take.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
The star grave.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
For the last year four friends have kept a secret drugs.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
No, not then, what is wrong?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I've had rough here, but not all secrets stayed buried.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Somebody sent this to me.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Oh my god, someone knows.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I know what you did last summer.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Ooh what they thought would be a new beginning toast
to us is becoming a dead end.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Somebody tried to kill you last night.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
But we have to go to the police.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
If you want to be dead.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
He could have done it, and the mistake they made
it was an accident.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
There was no accident. It was murdered.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
What if he's still alive.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Why what are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
He is coming back to haunt them. Oh my gosh,
because after me too.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
I got a letter, I got run over, Hell gets
her hair chopped off, fully gets a body in a
can you get a letter?

Speaker 5 (35:01):
That's balanced?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
He's waiting for us unravels.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Wait what are you waiting more? What are you waiting?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Going on? I know what you did last summer.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Our director is Jim Gillespie. The screenplay is by Kevin Williamson.
And our movie is Stars. This is so nineteen nineties.
Jennifer Love, Hewitt, Sarah, Michelle Geller, Ryan Felippe, Freddie Prinz Junior,
Johnny Gileki and Bridget Wilson. Who's Bridget Wilson Sampress Now
she married Pete Sampress. It takes place, Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
I thought about that. Yes, Oh that's right. Okay.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
It takes place in North Carolina. I'll say this. The
movie looks great. It's beautifully shot.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
It is that, it is it is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
The fashions of this are very nineteen ninety seven, are
they ever? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Wow? And spaghetti straps and prop pops and with the.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Bra straps showing of course.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
With the bro straps showing what are you a tramp?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah? Exactly, exactly, it's yeah, we have a Jennifer love hewittt.
We used to say if you if, just to give
a context. It's like at the time, she was on
a show called Party of Five and she was eighteen
when she made this movie, and she was like a
big heart throb, very beautiful girl. This was like her
first big starring role. And apparently they asked her to

(37:01):
do some nudity and she refused. So then the one
of the producers says, that's fine, you know, we'll just
have her in tank tops and stuff, which is what
they did.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yep, yeah, yeah, And we should say our screenwriter, Kevin Williamson.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
He wrote the screenplay for Scream.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
He also wrote for I mean All of the Stuff
of the Day, Dawson's Creek and Vampire Diaries, Scream two Wars.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
So it is very it is very that we'll get
to the plot twist a little bit, but but yes,
it's so so nineties.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
We have Sarah Michelle Sarah Michelle Geller, who I knew
as Kendall from All My Children, Erica Kane's long lost
daughter that.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
She didn't know she had somehow, and was she wicked?
She was wicked.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, so Erica Kane had had her perfect little princess
daughter named Bianca. And then at some point, like when
Beianca is a teenager, Kendall comes to town and I
can't remember if like Erica had given up a baby,
I think that must be what had happened was that
Erica Kane had given up a baby for her career,
her career as a supermodel who was only five foot

(38:23):
nothing and totally plausible.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I've met her before. She's tiny and very nice, very
has a wonderful reputation, lovely.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yes, everybody loves miss Susan Lucci, and I yes, I
watched all my children from a time I was a
very small child, when Erica was a model with her
glamorous New York apartment. I loved all my children, so anyway,
so I knew. I knew Michelle Geller as Kendall on
all my children, and she was super good. Like you know,

(38:57):
soap operas, it's they gotta they gotta churn them out.
For those of you who don't know, they were churning
these hour long dramas out every single day.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
And there's no special effects. There's none, Like they have
to talk the whole time, and they're constantly I think
it's ex exposition. This is remember that thing that happened yesterday, Well,
this is the thing we're doing now, and then tomorrow
we're going to do that thing. But in the meantime,
let's go to Kelly's bar and have a drink and
then we'll yeah, Attereral hospital. For me, like this is

(39:28):
all like, oh yeah, the Luke and Lauris stuff. I
can watch them for hours on YouTube and.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
So I mean, you I am oddly like you have
to be a really good actor to be able at all.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
And she's in this movie, by the way, I forgot
to mention, and she's also from soap operas, yes, indeed.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
And so I remember noticing like, wow, this kid is
really super good. But yeah, Susan Luchi, And I was
gonna mention, who else was on that show? Give me
a second? Judith Light Judith Light also, but there was
but anyway, that was a big you know, So she's coming, uh,

(40:07):
Sarah Michelle Geller is in this. She's I think she's
just left all my children when.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
She makes this.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
But yeah, I mean it was like a big, big
part of television culture where the soap operas and there
were just there was like a good half dozen of them.
And as we said, they ran every on every network,
every single weekday afternoon, every single one and they were
wildly popular.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
And I don't know how they did it. I really
don't understand.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
How they managed to churn those things out for as
many decades.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Decades.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, So anyway, and then we have as you said, Ryan, Ryan,
is it Brian Philippe?

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Did we pronounce the pipe or felipe? I never quite know.
He was becoming a big star. He was married to
Rechie s Witherspoon and then Freddie Prince Junior is the
son of Freddy Freddy Prince.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
If you don't go, don't be scarvage, all right, pe.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
He was just a baby when his father passed away,
and he had his father's name. I mean, can't imagine
the pressure of that, like because his father came and
very very famous, like he was on the Tonight Show,
he had his own he was.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Very very famous and also like such a role. I mean,
there was this was a time when the only lat
you know, that anybody had ever seen on television was
Ricky Ricardo and that already was groundbreaking. But but I mean,
that's a long time between that and Chico and the
Man when you had Freddy Prince, so he it was
a lot. It was a lot that he was like

(41:41):
he was holding up for people. Yeah, so I imagine
it must have been a lot of pressure. And after this,
Ryan Filippe and Sarah Michelle Geller and Reese Witherspoon makes
Thank You, the Danger Liaison's remake, which we should do

(42:03):
sometimes we should. We talked about that play and the
Glenn Close one, but you know, we did not talk.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
We only briefly mentioned cruel intentions anyway. So these were.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Mega mega stars of the nineties and this was kind
of the scream and this was really a launch pad
for a lot of these young people. Although Sarah Michelle
had I mean, not Sarah Michelle. What's the name, Jennifer
Love it's the three names. Everybody has three names. Jennifer
Love Hewitt had been on television with Party of Five,

(42:35):
Like this is her first, as Marco said, it is
like a first real big breakout role in a big movie.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
So that's that's those are our stars. We've got these
four again the two couples. The whole character of colleing Collie,
you know, buddy whatever, not at all does not figure
into this.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
What No?

Speaker 3 (42:56):
And when he they they're partying in the van and
and Ryan Philippe is playing playing Sorry Max is that? No?

Speaker 5 (43:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Max is Johnny Gilecki.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Right, he's Barry Barry.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Barry is the the And he looks just like a Barry,
like the football star. Yeah, he just looks like.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, he's got a beamer, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
And he's drunk, and so they make him sit in
the back seat. And Ray is the more responsible one.
That's uh, Freddy Prince Junior. So he's driving, but then
he's going through the sun roof and he's making a
few acts in the fool and that's when they hear
they crunch over something.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I don't know?

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Is everybody, Okay, it's mine.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
It must have been a dog or something like a car.
Don't you see where you're going? Look like it came
out of no one. I didn't see it.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Don't you dropped your ball?

Speaker 1 (43:59):
I would just and.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
That's gonna freak a my air accident.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Leavehim alone?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Where is it? If it was a deer, then where
is it?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Maybe it ran off. I hope, so I hope we
didn't kill it. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Oh my god, no way.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
And I thought I didn't see it, so there's no way.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Oh my god, this isn't happening.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Check that out.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Yeah, come on, oh way.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I couldn't see it. Look, I swear.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
She dead.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Check his pulse.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
No way. You're the one to ramp this.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Just do it, and that immediately. And anybody who drives,
and especially if you drive it and I you have
that fear. Oh there's been close calls in my life,
you know. I used to drive up to Santa Cruz
a lot, and so they have that, and anybody would
be completely in that fear. And then you don't know
if it's a kid or not. It's a big body,

(45:15):
it's not a little kid. But just a big difference.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
I think it is a big difference.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And which is I'm fine with it's it's that's okay.
And but before we I forgot before the very first
shot I think is of a young man sitting on
the edge of a cliff looking out at the ocean,
and he's wearing like fishermen. Uh, what do you call
the coverall slicker, the slicker pant thing and boots the.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Waiters and nobody they call that. My parents used to
do that when they went fish.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, And he's got a little like a piece of
woman's jewelry, not a lockett, but a charm of some
kind with initials on it, and he's like spinning it
and looking Forloren Ley out to see, so that we've
seen him and we don't know what that's about. And
then we see the teenagers and they're partying on the
beach and again Sarah Michelle Geller's the beauty queen. She's
just been crowned Miss whatever, Miss Crabshack or whatever it is.

(46:09):
We meet Max, who is this poor kid, you know,
who works as in the fisherman, you know, the fishing
industry there, and he has a crush on Jennifer Love Hewett,
but she's already dating Freddy Prince. And so we have
this whole dynamic of these teenagers. Then we've got the
two couples on the beach and they're goofing around and

(46:29):
they get in the car and Barry's drunk. He's out
the moon roof. He drops his beer or whatever he's
bottle of whatever. He's drinking into Freddy Prince's lap, and
Freddy Prince looks so he looks away although he's being
very responsible, he looks away from the road down into
his lap for a second, and that's when it happens.
That awful, that awful thud. It's so bad and it's grizzly.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah, and it's it's very visceral, and you can totally,
like I said, it's shot really well.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
This movie looks it's extremely well shot.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah, because a lot of these are our movies are
not shot well. They don't have the budget, they don't
have the locations, they don't have the whatever. Like this is.
When you have that, you know it can elevate material,
which it does here as much as it can. And
I mean, at some point the material is my material.
But they they decide, they're they're kind of like, what
do we do? How do we handle this? At one

(47:19):
point they drag him. They're gonna drag the body away.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
We're gonna find no matter who takes the fall. Can
we leave right now? No way?

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Are you crazy?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
The girl's busted. There's blood everywhere, and we can clean
it up.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Come on, listen to yourselves. No, we are going to
the police.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
We don't have you, understand, we gotta move back.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Hi, Let's try to stay calm focus.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Don't you get it.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
If there's some of him on the car, there's some
of the car on him, they're gonna trace it back
to you.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
You're looking at a hit and run.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Then we bump the body, you flust I just pretend
we were never here. You could drag him to the
water and dump them it.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
They wouldn't find the weaves by that time, all the
evidence to be washed away.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
The found him at all. The currents are strong, the
undertoy could carry him out to sea.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
I won't be any part of it.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Come scared, Ulie, I'm gonna like the rest of you.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I don't have your family of the money to get
me out of this. Please, this is your future, Julie.
Think about it. College, it's your scholarship. The guy's already dead.
If we go to the police, we're dead too.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
And that's when Max shows up. And then they're pretending
that this guy is just vomiting off.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
The side of drug that he's like because they have
him kind of lane over, halfway over the barrier, the
roadside barrier, so yeah, so they okay, you have these
two couples. They've hit this body. They make Freddy Prince Junior.

(49:18):
They go check check the pulse, like I don't know
that I could. I would count on myself to check
somebody's pulse and tell anything.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Like I can't even find my own pulse, no.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Important thing.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Yeah and so and so, but you know, I get it,
you're a teenager.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
And so he panics and he says, I think he's dead,
and Ryan Felippe Felipe goes immediately too, well, we just
have to hide the body and get on with our life.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Because yeah, I've got college, You've got college. You know,
we're all going to get in trouble with our parents.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Like that's the solutions.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Like that's immediately what he's thinking of. So they take
the body away and they're at the dock and then
their idea is, let's just throw them in the water
and eventually they'll find out who it is.

Speaker 7 (50:06):
And then then we don't actually know he's dead, no,
and then zero confirmation that he's actually dead, right, and
we don't.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Know how old this person is. I mean it's not
a child though. But then he says, well, we get
we should get the ID. Someone says, we need to
get the I D so you know, at least know
who this is. They're trying to get the idea. And
then the body comes to life or it it it,
and then it grabs Sha Sarah Michelle Geller is wearing
her crown, her beauty crown, so he grabs her crown
and then he falls into the water. And then she's like,

(50:36):
he's got a crown, y'all. We gotta get got to
get that back. So Ryan Felipe dives in to get
her crown. So then you have this body and then
the body kind of comes back to life again, and
then he calls back on the boat and then they
very scary it is. It's it's legitimately like creepy and.

Speaker 7 (50:53):
And I and they yeah, but they again they also
like not only do they like I said, they go right,
Ryan Felipe especially, he goes right to, we got to
dump this body, right, he's dead.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
We've got to, like they have zero confirmation of this,
none whatsoever, that this person is actually dead. Immediately we
agree that we're going to He convinces them, I don't
know why, they that the smart thing to do is
toss this body in the water for some reason. And
then once they're about to do that, they're arguing whether

(51:28):
to find out whether who this is. If they had
just checked the guy's wallet, then guess what, you immediately
know who's writing you those notes, don't you?

Speaker 3 (51:37):
But oh no, they're creeped out about talking getting into
the body. But then she says she's going to do it,
but as soon as she does, he grabs her crowns right, like,
he's not really good dead, So but let's just throw
him in the water, keep him in the water and
not tell anybody.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
Obviously he's not dead. Maybe now we could call an ambulance.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Oh no, they're Kennedy's. They're just like leaving. What Yes,
they're just going. So that's their solution is to just
take off. And then they completely swear to one another.
Ryan Felipe is very agro about it, like, we can't
say anything. You know, we're all going to agree. We're
going to go on and do our separate things.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Let's get out of you. We're going home now.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Never ever, under any circumstances and none to God speak
about this again.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Is that clear? It's not merely a future therapy will agreed.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Holley, I'll never mentioned it again.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
We make a pact right here, and now we take
the song grave agreed, Julie.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Kay, we take this dog grave.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Let me hear it it.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Let it gold Berry. Okay, Barry, we'll take this to
the grave. It'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Then we get Jennifer Love You at one year later,
and she's in college, and they try to uger up
by like saying how pale she is and stuff. But
she's still gorgeous. She looks great, but she's.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
Not wearing Matt scarat no.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
No, but she's wearing overalls like you've just let yourself
go to I know, because I like she looks great
and everything my point. But she comes home and her
mom's like, I'm worried about you. You seem distracted. Your
grades are you know? And she's like, I know, I know, Mom,
I'm gonna I'm gonna call up some of my friends
and that'll cheer me up. So she goes to look
for Sarah Michelle Geller and and I think an improvement

(54:16):
is they She tried New York and she got kind
of chewed up and spat out. So she comes back
on North Carolina with her tail between her legs, trying
to figure out what to do. She's working at some
retail store with her sister, and her sister lords it
over her, like yeah, you thoughtister's a beakerd I mean,
she's not not supportive, she's and I get maybe and

(54:38):
maybe Sarah Michelle Geller was obnoxious, and so this is
her like, see, you're not so great, right, you got
to work with me in the store, you know, like
everybody else here. But that's what she's doing. She did
win Miss crab Cakes or whatever it was the year before,
so she has that going for her. Freddie Prin's is
working at the dock with the other guys.

Speaker 8 (54:56):
Okay, so so when they all get together, they get
she says, she gets the note, and similar to the books,
she gets the note, she kind of calls a confab
with all the whole Murder team.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
They go to get Freddy Prince Junior and Freddy Prince
Junior is working with Max as a fisherman and Barry.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
Brian Felipe says, Barry, who's just rich.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
He doesn't have to work, he doesn't have to go
to college, doesn't do anything, and so he doesn't and
so he says something like, well, well, well, Raddy grew
up to be a fisherman.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Grew up. It's been a year, dude, he's nineteen if
that go to college? Yes, you know, he's not save
enough to go to call How do you like, dude?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Grew up?

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Barry's terrible.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
He's terrible.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
He's not a good friend. But yeah, he's ragging on
him about that. There's a Jennifer love Hewitt. They don't
have the dating thing where she's dating a guy like
it's no, it's more just that they realize they're all getting.
They just go right to the mystery, which is like
they're all getting the he's threatening notes and images. And
then this person that's killing people has a hook that

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this is not in the story, and that's not old book.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
We're out of bookland, now.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Out of bookland. So there's an old legend, like people
say in horror movies about the guy with the hook
in his hand. And the people drove home and then
they came home they saw the hook was in the
window or was hanging from this or the that. That's
just an old thing. So this is a guy in
a slicker thing and with a hook.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Yeah, so at first, they think that.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
They they rightfully think, well, it must be Max because Max.
Now we know when Max drove by the night of
the murder, when he drives kind of drives up on
the scene, he's kind of drunk. And they and they,
you know, I mean, I know, they got the hands
full with the whole murder thing, but they like fully
let him drive away drunk, and that's fine. So they think, oh,

(56:55):
well it must be Max because Max, you know, he
was drunk, but maybe he you know, put two and
two together, and now he's getting revenge on all of
us for not including him in our reindeer games.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
And so Barry, why do they let Here's my question, over.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
And over again, they agree to let Barry handle things.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
When established he established really.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Early on he cannot handle things like he can't even
handle when at the very beginning when Sarah Michelle Gillard
they're at the pageant and Max is trying to talk
to Jennifer love Hewett, and he comes.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
In as just a total just the worst guy ever
to Max is merely talking to his friend.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
But this is the guy we're going to follow and
put in charge of all of the major decision making
that has to do with the rest of our lives. Okay,
So Barry Barry, they think, well it must be Max,
and Barry's like, great, let me handle it.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
He goes, He goes the violently threatens this man's life,
violently like.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
With a hole, assaults him, Yeah, with the hook, and
like I'm gonna kill you, dude if you don't leave
us alone. And he's like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (58:15):
All?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Yeah, First of all, you jump to the conclusion that
the guy is dead, who's not actually dead. You jump
to the conclusion that we should just throw him into
the water. That's going to solve everything. And now you're
jumping to the conclusion that it's not only are you
jumping to the coclusion that it's Max that's threatening you,
you're also jumping to the conclusion that what I need
to do is violently assault this guy and threaten him his.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Temper and his temperament is what gets him in trouble
all the time. Yes, he's the cause of all this.
If you're going to blame someone, it's him. He deserves faults,
all Barry's fault, So Barry. So then Max is first killed, right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
So Max is like what was that about? Like what
what are you talking about? And and but he's just
scared because you know this guy's attacking him. And then
he abruptly leaves and before he can even kind of
recover and put anything together, like what has happened? This
figure walks in in like Margo said, like the full

(59:15):
on like a fisherman's outfit. So nobody would stop such
a person from walking into the unlike Barry, who just
goes wherever he wants, I guess. But this fisherman in
the full slicker, full like protective fishery fishing boat gear,
walks up to Johnny Gillicky and no more Max.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
And so now we're like, WHOA. Well, clearly we the
audience know it's not Max. And one thing I like
about the screenplay.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
There's a lot I don't like about the screenplay, but
one thing I liked about the screenplay was that the
how long it takes for the rest of the teenagers
to know that Max has been killed because they don't
know right away.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
And I think that that kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Works out well because we for a good chunk there
we the audience, no, it's not Max, and we know
that there's somebody there is actually somebody who is very dangerous,
who is after these people, is perfectly willing to kill
an innocent bystander.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Yeah, like I don't know why he kills Max.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Because Max can find something out. I don't know. I mean,
Julie goes, Yeah, it's unclear. Julie goes to the library
to look up find out what what was the name
of the person they actually killed, and his name was David,
and that he has a family and that they miss him.
And he has a sister named Missy, who was just

(01:00:41):
completely of course, she was completely upset when a little
brother dies.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Yeah, it would be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
But she's getting But then we find out that Sarah
Michelle Geller is home, you know, our sisters, you know,
of course, being like you have to work tomorrow, we
got to do whatever. She was the inventory and she's like, nah,
I gotta do the pageant tomorrow, and then she they
have this confrontation. Then Sarah Michelle Keller wakes up and
like hair, hair is falling off her head. But it's

(01:01:08):
like a bob I mean, does she wear a wig?

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
After that, it is a much more attractive boss.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yeah, I was just gonna say it looks great, Like that's.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
The slasher guy like has some hidden.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Talent, right John Edward Scissor hit.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
With the scissors. So she wakes up. It's scary.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
She wakes up and she's wearing her crown in bed
and she's like, why, what's my crown doing here?

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
And then her hair is everywhere and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
She calls Jennifer Love Hewitt, who picks up the phone
and then immediately runs to the car and then goes
to her house as soon as she for some reason,
she opens up the trunk of her car.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
You hears something rolling around in the trunk and she
gets out of the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Which is also another ominous thud. The thuds in this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
The thudding is great. And then so she opens up
the trunk and that's where she sees Max and he's
full of crabs and he's dead and he's in her trunk.
So she's like, and then a truck goes by. That's
something important, because this truck goes by just honks at
her and leaves. So then she goes and gets Jennifer
Love Hewett and then she's like, get your get sorry,

(01:02:07):
we gotta get Berry. Okay, we got like Berry's over
with Jennifer. I'm sorry Sarah Michelle Geller because she lost
some of her hair and she puts a cap over it.
And then they go back to the car.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Nobody can see her. Amazing, Bob, I know, I'm like,
what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
But and they and she has the sweatshirt wrapped around
her way like it's very like ninety seven. But they
there for maybe five minutes. It takes her to like
go to the room talk to them, and then they
come back and the car is now empty. There are
no crabs, there's nobody, and no clean there's no sand,
it doesn't smell. But that's when Jennifer Love Hewittt spins

(01:02:41):
around and says, why do you wait for it?

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Do this?

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Yeah, that's it's hilarious. I mean, like I said, it
looks great, but it's hilarious. It's like, what if you
did come running out of the woods right now, what
would you do? I mean, seriously, you have no weapons,
spitting around your head stick from spinning around, like you,
what are you gonna do if somebody comes after you?
In this moment, but they realize that there's like so
that's when Barry is saying, like, I'll hang out with you,

(01:03:06):
I'll stay with you. She has to go to the
parade and she's going to do the show. She goes,
I'll just watch you to make sure nothing happens to you.
So he's on the float when she does the parade,
and I do love it when they do the girl
sings Fame, like the themed fame. The beauty pageant is great.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
It's very funny. It's very good. No, but before that,
we forgot about Anne Hash.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Oh so they met Anne Hash rip Okay, somebody so talented.
She was really good, good in a nothing part, a
small part, and she's great.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
In this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
In this movie with all of these characters, and we're
supposed to be in North Carolina, it is Anne Hash
and only Anne Hash who has a who has a
North Carolina accent.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
She's the only one. She's the only one doing the accent.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
And I'm like, and Hash, she's any fish. She just
looks like she belongs where she is. It never it
never crossed that. She's she's so good. But she's saying,
you know, no, my brother was killed, and you know
he died.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
She said to his side, yes, that he drowned. She
said that he drowned, He drowned himself and you're like drowned,
and because they threw the body in the water, and
they're like, okay, well, you know, and she also mentions
she's she's a little she's a little kooky. She also
mentions that a friend, a high school friend of the brothers,
has been by was very cute and and then abruptly left,

(01:04:35):
and that the guy's name is Billy Blue. And they're like, okay, well,
we got to find this friend and see, like, maybe
it's the friend that's after us, and right, maybe it's
a sister that's after us. And who knows, you know,
because we do see her cleaning fish with the hook
kind of thing, and like she's a little she's a
little off kilter, understandably like her who blew up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, but it also it's a good it's it's it's
good for the movie to have like a different person
that could possibly be the killer. And it's interesting that
it's an ane has a very slight, you know, woman
like but the but who just seems a little wacky.
But you're like, yeah, I could see it, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Who gets attacked next? Barry gets attacked next?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
How does oh yeah, Berry gets attacked during the pageant
as you're saying when the word girl is singing things.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Which is a really cool scene.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
It is awesome. I love the way that whole thing
it is.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
Baby yey jelly, yes.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Kiss.

Speaker 6 (01:05:53):
Sound love?

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Right, what's the problem?

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
How would be gonna kill him?

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Who's killing who?

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Come in the balcony?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
All right, everybody stay calm good, laugh of fa.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Behind, they've got this pageant that they've got to do.
They know that with the crowd and everything that they're
always in danger.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
They're all vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Barry's like a got you let me handle, like Barry's
in charge, because everything always goes awesome when Barry's in charge.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
And he's like, yeah, I'm on it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I'm Barry's got. Barry's on the job, never fear. And
Barry's like up in the balcony watching the pageant, keeping
eyes on absolutely everything but himself.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
PS. Now, Barry's dead.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Yes, she's so. Sarah Michelle Gellers is on stage and
everyone's watching her. She can see him up in the
balcony and then says there's some stuff going on up there,
and she's screaming like you gotta help Barry, and they
think she's having some kind of breakdown doing with her
hair or whatever. But so they so, but she's trying
to go up there and they're trying to stop her.

(01:07:41):
And then by the time they do get up there,
the body's gone. Nobody's up there, so then they think,
you know, she's a total wacko. Like the cop is
driving her home and they're trying to explain to her,
like what's going on here, and she's you know, and
then the cop gets killed right that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Yes, the police officer is escorting her home. She's in
the back of the squad car. They come upon somebody
whose car has broken down, and the police officer stops
and gets out, and she sees that it's the killer
that is luring the police officer. The killer like immediately
kills the cop. Because again this is our screenwriter, the
screen guy, and it's very that you know, like these

(01:08:22):
these slashing is happening very quickly and abruptly and out
of nowhere, like before you even have a moment to
be like, oh that's the guy, it's over, like it's
already happened. And so she realizes and now she's like
it's a great sequence, like she's she's kicking her way
out of the car. She's running to her store where
you know, her sister's doing inventory, and she's banging on

(01:08:45):
the door and the sister lets her in and it's
obnoxious as ever, like the sister's never not obnoxious, and
this killer comes in immediately kills the sister and is
chasing her through this department store with the creepy mannequins.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
And it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
It's a really good, you know, horror movie.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
It's a classic.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
It's a classic. She leaves. I think it's like an
MTV award thing like the It has to be because
this scene where Sarah Michelle Gellow think gets out of
the store, he's like one of the mannequins, and then
he's chasing her and then she gets away from him.
She gets out of there, and then she's running up
the alley. At the same time, there's a parade going on.
So as the parade route is going on, this is

(01:09:25):
very HITCHCOCKI and by the way, like you have the
thing parade right, you're nip perade're so loud with the
full band, You're right, But that is like very like
what Hitchcock does in a couple of his films. And
so she gets murdered in an alleyway while that's happening
over there, and nobody can hear it, so they don't
know that she's dead yet. But now so we have

(01:09:45):
Jennifer Love Hewitt and we have Freddie Prince Junior. Jennifer
Love Hewitt. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
So she finds so she's doing she's doing research on
the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
She's very smart and knows how to use the internet,
and in her Internet research, she figures out that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
She also goes back to see because she's got the yearbook.
She's got the yearbook from the year that the murder
victim was killed, and so she wants to know who
is this friend, and so she goes back to Anne
hash To with the yearbook to find out who the
who this supposed friend of her brother was, and Anne

(01:10:25):
Haysch says, you know, my brother again, my brother.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
Did not was not murdered. In fact, we have a note.
I have a note.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I'll show you the note. You know, it's not gonna
it's not like they're going to get me for insurance fraud.
I just but I hit it because I didn't want
the you know, I wanted to be able to collect
on his insurance.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
I needed the money, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
So she shows she shows Jennifer Love Hewitt the note
and it's in the same handwriting as I know what
she did last summer, and I forget what it says,
but it's something that could be a suicide note but
also could be a death threat, and it is the
death threat. Somehow, Anne Hash again doesn't know her own

(01:11:03):
brother's handwriting that she's so close to.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
Okay, well, I know what my sister's handwriting looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Even if she's writing in block letters, I wouldn't be like, oh,
you know what's odd about this NOTEE she suddenly wrote
in black letters, all in block letters.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Wow, she must have really been upset.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
So Jennifer Love Hewett puts it together that that the
guy they hit, because she also had mentioned the tattoo
yet of the girlfriend, because he was so despondent over
the death of his girlfriend. They were in a car
accident and he survived, and she says, I know I

(01:11:43):
saw him. He had a tattoo, and she's like, my
brother did not have a tattoo of his girlfriend's name
or otherwise, he just did not. And so Jennifer Love
Hewett puts it all together like, oh, her brother's not
the one that we hit that night, and whoever it
was that we hit is the one who's apt for us.
And so she does her again, goes to the internet
and does her research on I don't know, Nexus, Lexus

(01:12:06):
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
I know a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Way like she just like leaves her, just like traumatized, traumatized,
traumatizing her. And so she figures out, she puts it
together that who must be after them is the father of.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
The girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
The this guys who they this whole time I thought
has been the victim. That the father had killed that
guy first and then they had hit hit him as
he was leaving that scene of that crime. And so
this is all a murder to kind up a murder
that ended up covering up another murder basically, but now

(01:12:46):
she knows who it is, and so she has she
goes to Ray to get help because the guy's a
fishermen of the father of the girl as a fisherman,
and so when she goes to Ray for help, she
sees that the name of his boat is Billy Blue.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
How she does not know that before.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
This, until that moment, she had no idea the name
of his boat. But she This is when she finds
out and then she thinks, oh my god, you're the killer.
So then she's trying to get away from him, and
then she sees a man on the dock and she's like, mister, mister,
call the cops. I need help. He goes get on
my boat right now and hide. So she does.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
She's like, okay, does it run to town?

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Does it? Just you know?

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
No, got Barry's not here to tell me what to
do exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
She gets on the boat and then he's chasing her
around the boat and then and it's very scary.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
She goes down into because it's the fishing boat. She
goes down. Oh, it's scary ice and all the bodies
are down in there in the very fake looking.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Ice, but it it's creepy, Like she's very creepy and scary.
But she she gets away. Ray comes back and helps
save her, and then they tell the cops everything that happened.
You know, the two of them are like in the
book the whole thing. Ray is like, well, I'm glad
we're together now because I realize I love you so
much and we need to be together. I'm like, this

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is not the takeaway the time or the takeaway of
this you know. But this guy is like, well, at
least we didn't kill anybody, right. She's like, yeah, you're right.
So she goes in the movie and this is like
very cheesy, but she goes back to college. It's still
very effectively done. Like she's gonna go into the shower
and her friends says, oh, you got a note by

(01:14:24):
your you know, by the locker room, and she opens
the note and it's just her sorority inviting her to
a pool party. She's like, oh yay, and then she
goes back into the shower and then it's full of steam.
She sees a sign that says I still know, and
then somebody jumps out and then that's how they ended
its credits. It's because they're going to get their sequel

(01:14:45):
and they made a lot of money with this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
So what happened, because again i'd never seen this movie
or read this book.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
What happens in the sequel? There's two sequels.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
There is, and I would have to watch them to
tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
The same guy, because they pulled the guy, and they
pulled the guy out of the water.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
So I'm gonna say this, She's gonna wake up the
movie weight starts. I don't know, I have not seen it.
My guess is that they open it and she wakes
up and she was a dream sequence and she thought
that this guy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
But then see I'm looking. I'm looking because.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make a lick of
sense because everyone should be dead.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
The only person I could think of is Anne Hash
because you just retraumatized me over my dead.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Yeah, it's still. It's still the guy. It's still the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
The girl's dad, Muse Watson is his name. He's Ben
Willis Slash the Fisherman.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
So he's still in the sequel spoiler alert, right, because.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
They didn't find his body, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
The found his hand and they were like, well, like.

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
Just breathe underwater or something. I don't know what a
equaman I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
But yeah, that's right. They don't fight his body. So
that's our first hand, right, because they're like, well, it'll
show up one day like oh thanks.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
Okay, I'll sleep really well and I'll go to college
as Officer Tang.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
So yeah, that's been so you can later look.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
In the water. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
I mean, right, how deep is that water. I don't know,
but it's it's it's yeah, it's good. I mean, look,
it's cheesy, this is but you know, I swear to
go on, if you're looking for a scary movie and
you like you got laundry to fold or you're dusting
or putting up your decorations, it's a fun one to

(01:16:34):
have on.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
Oh yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
And I and I, as you say, like the production
value is excellent and the jump scares and all of that,
the way that's all done is is very effective. Really,
what I want to say, it's like a step beyond
Nightmare on Elm Street, like the way that you and
I like the kind of jump scares that were in

(01:16:56):
from that era. It's it's really it isn't kind of
another leg level of suspense and that and and certainly Gore,
I think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
It could be Corrier. It's it's not that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
It's not that bad, especially compared to like Scream and
and yeah, yeah what happens later. But I did find
because it's like it's very late in the and it's
again nothing to do with the book at all. I
wish I wish we had the insinuating that the murderer
insinuating them into the into the lives of these people,

(01:17:29):
but they don't. This is he's just this guy that
they don't know anything about till Jennifer love hw it
goes through the internet when that happens, like it to me,
like that all happens kind of fast, almost like a
little too fast to follow it. I had to go
back and like watch her. I kind of had to
like go, Okay, this guy's who again? And so did

(01:17:52):
he murder the he murders the guy, the original guy
that we thought was the victim, like he's he's actually
the victim of a murder by this guy instead. You know,
I didn't quite it didn't quite connect for me as
effectively as I feel like if I'd been just seeing
it in a movie theater, I would have been like, wait, huh,

(01:18:13):
it's this guy. Now, wait what what happened to the
first guy?

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
You know, I would have been a little a little confused,
but a lot of you know, but it's very entertaining.
These kids are very good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Oh yeah, they It's very believable. The soundtrack is kind
of cool, like there's some seventies songs, but they put
like a nineties edge to it, grunge, grunge edge to it,
like summer Breeze and hush hush. I mean it was
just yeah, it was. It's I think it's fine. It's great, honestly,
book first movie I had to actually go for the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
I mean I do, like I said, I do like
like Louis Duncan. Yeah, and I do like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Angle of the book about like that they're all interacting
with the murderer without realizing it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
I think is really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
So it's a different you know, it's a different approach
to what happens to these four kids after they hit
somebody with a car. But but I'm not mad at it,
you know. I like that it's not a child, yes,
appreciate that. And I also, you know, in the end,
I'm also like, oh, not only is it not a child,

(01:19:22):
but it was an evil murderer that they hit with
the car.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
No, I don't know about that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Yeah, So so yeah, I think I do have to
give an.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
Edge to the movie with this one as well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I think for a young person to read this book,
it's it's a good book for a you know, like
you said, like a eleven Yeah, somewhere and they just.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Want to be scared a little bit. You don't want
to be up on like I was but reading with
Stephen King books when I was that age.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
Like no, it's not that no, no, but it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
And it's like this time of year you look at
for scary movies. It's totally fine.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Yeah, yeah, yes, And it's a whole nineties vibe which
is fun too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Yeah yep.

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
And then watch scary movie and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Laugh and laugh, laugh and laugh and laugh.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
That was so brilliant to think of doing that. This
think is so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Next week is the last week of October and we
have something kind of big planned.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
We're going to cover Stephen King's Misery and we have
a special guest, but we'll wait till next week. You
have to check to check out because uh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Yes, I've never read Misery before. I'm just I was
just telling you before we got on the air. I'm
I must be like a third of the way through,
and it's it's super good, like Stephen King is. I
just he's such a great writer and he's he's a
writer's writer for sure. And I don't like scary books,

(01:20:49):
as you know, and I really don't like like violent
slasher books, but Stephen King is such a good writer,
Like I'm willing to like go along because I have
seen this movie. It's a little bit, it's a little
bit interfering with my I always try to read the
book first and then watch the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
But once in a while we have a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Movie that is just again, like this movie, a cultural
phenomenon and you kind of can't get it out of
your mind while you're reading the book. And I'm trying
to not picture James con and Kathy Bates, but I
can't not picture James kN and Kathy Bates. And that's okay,
But I wish I kind of wish I hadn't seen

(01:21:33):
this movie yet. I feel like I would enjoy being
immersed in the book a little bit more. But it's
a super so far, I'm really enjoying it. It's of course,
it's great.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
He's great.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
So that's our next episode. We're super excited about that.
Once again, reach out to us with your ideas for
books and movies, all those places I mentioned at the
top of the show. Once again, our email is Book
versus Movie Podcast spelled ittle out at gmail dot com
orgo where can they find you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
You can find me online at coloniabook dot com and
all of my social media callouts are at Cheese not
Yo Mama and where can they find you?

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
You can find me at Brooklyn Margo for Blue Sky, Twitter,
I'm at Brooklynfitchick for Threads and Instagram. My site is
Brooklyn Fitchick and also on TikTok. I'm at Brooklyn Margo
and I put a few clips there of this movie
that we talked about this week on there, so go
check that out, all right, everybody, Spooky season continue soon

(01:22:31):
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