Bassist and founding member of Alcatrazz, Gary Shea, thought it would be cool to have the band's original guitarist Yngwie Malmsteen play on a new song for old times' sake. Yngwie's manager/wife responded with a "yes," but it came with a heavy price to pay.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's a highlight from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
First time guest of the podcast it is Gary Say.
Gary's the bassis and co founder of the band's New
England and Alcatraz. He has a brand new book out
now titled No Bass, No Party. How does the band
Alcatraz come together?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well? I had a Gemini, stayed in La, thought nothing
to go back to Boston. Form to stay in La
and play hardball. Maybe when almost to get a gig
with some famous band and do well. Maybe they could
have been in the same band together. It'd be kind
of cool. I put an ad in a local paper.
One night the phone rang his English voice yelling at me,
saying did he manage Graham bought it from Rainbow and
(00:39):
Barry Mark Barlow, from Joe Thrill Toll and Zell from
Nazareth to the bass players? Are you in the base
screaming this guy? If he's screaming at me, I was
about to go out the door to go someplace, and
I said he I'm the bass player. We got a
record deal just on us in the band, no demo,
And one weekend we got the news that Barry got
(00:59):
offer to play on Robert Plant's first album, Went's Up
and playing his first solo record bringing saying No so
he's out of here and Zala's on Tourial keep Brooks
somewhere in Africa. So we had to find a guitar
playing the drum over the weekend in Los Angeles where
the deal goes down, just to go down, it goes
out the windows.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No pressure there.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So the first night we got auditioned Lawrence Jubbar. We
played guitar for Paul McCartney and we were doing and
a russ ballad song called s o s that Graham
had done on solo record and Cozy Polla played the
drums on you Know. And the first thing he said
and we were done is can you please turn down?
It was like wrong, wrong, And the manager, of course
(01:42):
has running around two in the morning and goes, that's it.
Wings in New England, Rainbow I can sell us, Sure
you can't, but he's not the right guy. We'd be
killing each other before the first gig. I can't do that.
And he went to the next day to a neighbor,
young guy at a record store and said, who's the
hot guy? Said Vey from Sweden. He's playing It's been
a called steeler, so Andy rang him. He said he
(02:04):
wanted dish for Graham Bonnet, and Ingvey couldn't believe. He
thought was a crank phone call. He loved all the
Swedish guys love deep purple. They know all that stuff
backwards and sideways, and they worshiped Richie Blackmore and Graham
was part of that family. And Ingay didn't believe it
at first. And he came down at night and played
for us, and he nailed all that stuff. He could
play any any deep purple song or rainbow song. I
(02:24):
could shake a stick at it. And he became the
guitar player.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Was here falling out with Vey?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, well, the manager speaking about drugs, swore he had
managed that Robert Palm and basity rose at one point
and the whole thing up his nose and lost his
family and there got back together again. He's tore it
and do it again, sure enough. If we get going,
he's doing it again. And bring an invY with him
and telling me that the best things on slash spread.
(02:51):
Don't worry about the other guys, you know. And like
in Japan, they were saying Alca Fez featuring Ingvey and
Graham saw that hit the roof and that that became
a problem and Anyay just started getting more out of hand.
But just jumping around all over the place. Just play
the song. Just just solve those and go crazy. But
we run around like a crazy person. And he just
(03:14):
got a little hard to deal with. Was this is
not good. And Graham reacted. Rather than taking the reins
and saying is what we're going to do. You're going
to do this or you're out of here, he just
went into the into a shell and just hated day
and everything's bad if it is bad, and come out
of the house. And now I got a problem. We said, well,
(03:36):
it's obviously we've got to change guitar players. Whether he's
going to be famous or not, it doesn't matter. The
group is more important than a single guy doing that.
There's other guitar players on the earth besides besides him.
So he put the word out and Jimmy found Steve
I through David Rosenball played for Rainbow and I think
played for Billy Joel for what and he mentioned Steve
(03:59):
I from Frank Zappas band, and I like the idea
that the music could change a little bit and be
more venturousome and the second record was I love the
second record, and we had problems with Capital Records at
that point, but the music was great. I thought that
a lot of people liked the invade European styles opposed
to Steve's style, which is American kind of center. They're
(04:21):
both amazing players, and they've both been playing together on
the G three circuit for the last thirty years or something.
We're trying to get Invey on some more recent Alcatraz records.
And his manager's wife, she wanted a million dollars to
play on one song. It's like, come on, oh my god,
(04:42):
Jesus even David that he wouldn't get it. A million
dollars on stupid song. Take it half an hour ago
into your studio house on pro tools we have today,
recording to your computer, send a file to some wherever
it has to go to be over with.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Similar to Vinny Vincent, like the their own worst enemy.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think they. He just was just thick,
you know. He was yell and exciting and like his
favorite guitar players was Al tel Meola knew. I said,
you should tell people that that's really interesting. Oh no, no, mon,
it's always Richie Blackmore, who he wrough whatever, but you
should tell him tell me? And who's his favorite band?
(05:23):
No one ever gets this answer. His favorite band was Kansas. Really.
He heired the producer Jeff Glickman to do a couple
of thing they records back in the late eighties early nineties.
He liked Kansas so much, said should tell the people
interviews you like Kansas. He always start Rachie Blackmore was
was mysterious and everything and Graham say that Richie was
as shy. He liked to interviews. He liked being in
(05:45):
a corner. He's afraid of people, and they took to
us being he had to be mean and nasty and
say bad things to people. Don't do that. That's not
the way to go. So he's had that cloud around
and he still has. It was a birthday yesterday day
before nastylized Saints on Facebook. Hate or do hate, No hate,
do hate fifty to fifty And it could be a
(06:06):
lot better in his favor if he didn't come off
like that. But in system doing it, he's a great guy.
He's funny guy, really talented guy. You can play any
kind of you can play the blues, anything, you wants
how to play the guitar,
Here's a highlight from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
First time guest of the podcast it is Gary Say.
Gary's the bassis and co founder of the band's New
England and Alcatraz. He has a brand new book out
now titled No Bass, No Party. How does the band
Alcatraz come together?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well? I had a Gemini, stayed in La, thought nothing
to go back to Boston. Form to stay in La
and play hardball. Maybe when almost to get a gig
with some famous band and do well. Maybe they could
have been in the same band together. It'd be kind
of cool. I put an ad in a local paper.
One night the phone rang his English voice yelling at me,
saying did he manage Graham bought it from Rainbow and
(00:39):
Barry Mark Barlow, from Joe Thrill Toll and Zell from
Nazareth to the bass players? Are you in the base
screaming this guy? If he's screaming at me, I was
about to go out the door to go someplace, and
I said he I'm the bass player. We got a
record deal just on us in the band, no demo,
And one weekend we got the news that Barry got
(00:59):
offer to play on Robert Plant's first album, Went's Up
and playing his first solo record bringing saying No so
he's out of here and Zala's on Tourial keep Brooks
somewhere in Africa. So we had to find a guitar
playing the drum over the weekend in Los Angeles where
the deal goes down, just to go down, it goes
out the windows.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
No pressure there.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So the first night we got auditioned Lawrence Jubbar. We
played guitar for Paul McCartney and we were doing and
a russ ballad song called s o s that Graham
had done on solo record and Cozy Polla played the
drums on you Know. And the first thing he said
and we were done is can you please turn down?
It was like wrong, wrong, And the manager, of course
(01:42):
has running around two in the morning and goes, that's it.
Wings in New England, Rainbow I can sell us, Sure
you can't, but he's not the right guy. We'd be
killing each other before the first gig. I can't do that.
And he went to the next day to a neighbor,
young guy at a record store and said, who's the
hot guy? Said Vey from Sweden. He's playing It's been
a called steeler, so Andy rang him. He said he
(02:04):
wanted dish for Graham Bonnet, and Ingvey couldn't believe. He
thought was a crank phone call. He loved all the
Swedish guys love deep purple. They know all that stuff
backwards and sideways, and they worshiped Richie Blackmore and Graham
was part of that family. And Ingay didn't believe it
at first. And he came down at night and played
for us, and he nailed all that stuff. He could
play any any deep purple song or rainbow song. I
(02:24):
could shake a stick at it. And he became the
guitar player.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Was here falling out with Vey?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, well, the manager speaking about drugs, swore he had
managed that Robert Palm and basity rose at one point
and the whole thing up his nose and lost his
family and there got back together again. He's tore it
and do it again, sure enough. If we get going,
he's doing it again. And bring an invY with him
and telling me that the best things on slash spread.
(02:51):
Don't worry about the other guys, you know. And like
in Japan, they were saying Alca Fez featuring Ingvey and
Graham saw that hit the roof and that that became
a problem and Anyay just started getting more out of hand.
But just jumping around all over the place. Just play
the song. Just just solve those and go crazy. But
we run around like a crazy person. And he just
(03:14):
got a little hard to deal with. Was this is
not good. And Graham reacted. Rather than taking the reins
and saying is what we're going to do. You're going
to do this or you're out of here, he just
went into the into a shell and just hated day
and everything's bad if it is bad, and come out
of the house. And now I got a problem. We said, well,
(03:36):
it's obviously we've got to change guitar players. Whether he's
going to be famous or not, it doesn't matter. The
group is more important than a single guy doing that.
There's other guitar players on the earth besides besides him.
So he put the word out and Jimmy found Steve
I through David Rosenball played for Rainbow and I think
played for Billy Joel for what and he mentioned Steve
(03:59):
I from Frank Zappas band, and I like the idea
that the music could change a little bit and be
more venturousome and the second record was I love the
second record, and we had problems with Capital Records at
that point, but the music was great. I thought that
a lot of people liked the invade European styles opposed
to Steve's style, which is American kind of center. They're
(04:21):
both amazing players, and they've both been playing together on
the G three circuit for the last thirty years or something.
We're trying to get Invey on some more recent Alcatraz records.
And his manager's wife, she wanted a million dollars to
play on one song. It's like, come on, oh my god,
(04:42):
Jesus even David that he wouldn't get it. A million
dollars on stupid song. Take it half an hour ago
into your studio house on pro tools we have today,
recording to your computer, send a file to some wherever
it has to go to be over with.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Similar to Vinny Vincent, like the their own worst enemy.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think they. He just was just thick,
you know. He was yell and exciting and like his
favorite guitar players was Al tel Meola knew. I said,
you should tell people that that's really interesting. Oh no, no, mon,
it's always Richie Blackmore, who he wrough whatever, but you
should tell him tell me? And who's his favorite band?
(05:23):
No one ever gets this answer. His favorite band was Kansas. Really.
He heired the producer Jeff Glickman to do a couple
of thing they records back in the late eighties early nineties.
He liked Kansas so much, said should tell the people
interviews you like Kansas. He always start Rachie Blackmore was
was mysterious and everything and Graham say that Richie was
as shy. He liked to interviews. He liked being in
(05:45):
a corner. He's afraid of people, and they took to
us being he had to be mean and nasty and
say bad things to people. Don't do that. That's not
the way to go. So he's had that cloud around
and he still has. It was a birthday yesterday day
before nastylized Saints on Facebook. Hate or do hate, No hate,
do hate fifty to fifty And it could be a
(06:06):
lot better in his favor if he didn't come off
like that. But in system doing it, he's a great guy.
He's funny guy, really talented guy. You can play any
kind of you can play the blues, anything, you wants
how to play the guitar,
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