July 1, 2025 • 43 mins
As we head into the Fourth of July, we wanted to spotlight a designer whose work is as American as it is beautiful. Today on Boulevard Beat, we're joined by Lisa Davenport — the Founder and CEO of LDD Interiors and the creative mind behind her signature style she calls “Cashmere & Blue Jeans.”
Lisa’s designs are rooted in comfort, craftsmanship, and character. With over 25 years of experience, she brings a passion for livable luxury and a deep commitment to sourcing locally made, American-crafted goods. From stunning homes to commercial spaces, Lisa seamlessly blends timeless design with hometown values — and she does it coast to coast, from her studios in Connecticut and Florida.
She’s led High Point’s Made in America tour, spoken at the iconic A&D Building in New York, and her work has been featured in publications like Modern Farmhouse and Luxury Pools.
Her mission? To build America’s Dream Home, one thoughtfully sourced piece at a time. If you love design with soul, and a little patriotic pride, this episode is for you.
Street Style Takeaways:
· Intentional Sourcing: Lisa emphasizes the importance of sourcing goods made in the USA—not just for quality, but to support artisans and communities.
· Livable Luxury: Her design philosophy balances sophistication with warmth, making spaces that are both beautiful and comfortable.
· Design with a Soul: Incorporating vintage elements and handcrafted pieces tells a richer, more personal story within a space.
· Values-Driven Business: Lisa built her firm around principles of authenticity, local partnerships, and timelessness, proving that business can reflect personal values.
· Craftsmanship Counts: Supporting American-made means honoring the makers behind the work—Lisa reminds us that design is as much about the people as the product.
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Lisa’s designs are rooted in comfort, craftsmanship, and character. With over 25 years of experience, she brings a passion for livable luxury and a deep commitment to sourcing locally made, American-crafted goods. From stunning homes to commercial spaces, Lisa seamlessly blends timeless design with hometown values — and she does it coast to coast, from her studios in Connecticut and Florida.
She’s led High Point’s Made in America tour, spoken at the iconic A&D Building in New York, and her work has been featured in publications like Modern Farmhouse and Luxury Pools.
Her mission? To build America’s Dream Home, one thoughtfully sourced piece at a time. If you love design with soul, and a little patriotic pride, this episode is for you.
Street Style Takeaways:
· Intentional Sourcing: Lisa emphasizes the importance of sourcing goods made in the USA—not just for quality, but to support artisans and communities.
· Livable Luxury: Her design philosophy balances sophistication with warmth, making spaces that are both beautiful and comfortable.
· Design with a Soul: Incorporating vintage elements and handcrafted pieces tells a richer, more personal story within a space.
· Values-Driven Business: Lisa built her firm around principles of authenticity, local partnerships, and timelessness, proving that business can reflect personal values.
· Craftsmanship Counts: Supporting American-made means honoring the makers behind the work—Lisa reminds us that design is as much about the people as the product.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to Boulevard Beat, a podcast where life and style intersect.
I'm designer Megan Bloom along with my co hosts, editor CHRISA.
Rossbund and gallery owner Liz Legit. This podcast focuses on
the daily highlights instead of the hustle, interviews with taste makers,
and personal conversations on how to highlight achievable style. You
constrol one street at a time, Boulevard Beat proves the.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
One you should take.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
As we head into the fourth of July, we wanted
to spotlight a designer whose work is as American as
it is beautiful. Today on Boulevard Bet, we're joined by
Lisa Davenport, the founder and CEO of ld D Interiors
and the creative mind behind her signature style she calls
Kashmir in blue Jeans. Lisa's designs are rooted in comfort, craftsmanship,
(00:54):
and character. With over twenty five years of experience, she
brings a passion for livable luxury and a deep commitment
to sourcing locally made, American crafted goods. She's led high
Point Markets Made in America tour, spoken at the Iconic
A and D Building in New York, and her work
has been featured in publications like Modern Farmhouse and Luxury
Pools her mission to build America's dream home, one thoughtfully
(01:17):
sourced piece at a time. If you love design with
a soul and a little patriotic pride, this episode is
for you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Let's dive in.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Welcome Lisa. We are excited to have you join us
today on Boulevard Beat.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Thank you, I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We love to start every episode by asking our guests
to tell us about the street that they grew up on,
so love to hear your answer.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
My street was Harvey Road in Durham, Connecticut, and the
road was a dirt road that was literally impassable during
the spring months. Yes, I used to stop at the
end of the road and hoof it in a half
mile to get to my parents' house. I think my
parents thought that they wanted their own life, my little
house on the prairie experience for their girls. We cooked
(02:04):
on a wood stove for three years, had no TV
for three years, and I was surrounded by hundreds of
acres of state forest with one neighbor. So the street
I grew up on kind of prepared me to be
a little bit of a survivalist maybe, and in today's
world that's not such a bad thing to be.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, it sounds like it set you up for a
lot of imaginative play, just growing up in the woods
and just being out with nature and having to create
your own fun and creative play. So tell us a
little bit more how you found your way to the
design industry.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
So I did take a traditional route. I don't do
much things traditionally, to be honest with you, But I
obtained my associate's degree in graphic design, and I quickly
landed myself a job. I do have some good raw talent.
I'm the daughter of a fine artist. So I quickly
landed a job. And in two weeks I was climbing
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the walls because I was in a four by four
cubicle and nobody talked to me. I'm sure you're all
shocked that I was having trouble, you know, not being
in a room when people were talking to me. So
I went. I actually went to work for Bob's Clothing store,
and I was a visual merchandiser for about a year.
I got to build my own sets. It was almost
like being a set designer for a play. That's the
extent that they would allow us.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
To go to.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Sadly, I probably could have made a career out of that,
but sadly management was in a bad place, and I
left there to go work for a paint and decorating store,
and I was hired as a decorator. I had no
idea what I was doing. I didn't even know what
a roll wallpaper looked like. The paint starer owners took
a chance on me. I learned the paint and the
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wallpaper and the little things that went along way that
we would sell, balances and so forth. Very quickly. I
knew I needed to move into this career. When a
woman came in, I had chosen wallpaper, a border, Oh
my god, a border. That's how long I've been doing this.
A border, and a balance and a paint color. And
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she came in a couple weeks later with glossy four
by six photos because you know what, we didn't have
our phones then to show us pictures, right, she showed
me before and after and she was squealing with delight.
I was like, I'm so happy, you're happy, and she's like,
you did this for me. I got the bug. I
got the bug right then and there, I'm like, that
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is what I want to do. I want to make
people's homes places where they are that excited to be
in them. So from there, the owner of the paint
store saw my talent. I went back to school to
start to study interior design. He opened a six thousand
square foot italianaid home that was just filled to the
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gills with high end fabrics, furnishing, rugs, etc. He made
me a partner for fifteen years we were a sought
after location in central Connecticut, and thirteen years ago, in
twenty twelve, split and I opened LDD.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Lisa as a designer myself. We all kind of have
our own little niches and we kind of follow different
areas of specialty. And you've created your own specialty which
incorporates all things made in America, which is wonderful giving
all of that back to our country. What prompted you
to navigate your business into a maiden America mission?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You hit the nail on the head when you asked
me about being creative and being out in the woods
with no TV. Right, So I mentioned to you that
my mom was a fine artist. My husband, before he
made a career change, was a builder. He is a
master carpenter. My dad always worked with his hands. I
always found it so interesting to me to see how
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things were made. I almost wonder if I should have
been a cabinet maker sometimes or an architect, because I
love to know what goes into making things. I also
love to know the story behind it. So when I
started learning by chance about companies here in America and
how the stories that came behind it, the family stories,
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I was like, why aren't we buying more in America?
And when I design a space, I'm really telling the
client's story, right, I'm telling their story through design, and
when I can bring back to them products with great
stories that they can talk about. The table was made
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by a small little craftsman that has a woodworking shop,
it just it brings me great joy. Then I started
thinking about it even further and the fact that it's
more sustainable that we're keeping jobs here. I started to
say to myself, why aren't we doing more of this?
And it became a passion well, and I love that too.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I think as a designer too, when you're able to
have a little bit more of a story and share
where something's coming from, people love that. They love knowing
the things they're going to enjoy in their home. The blood,
sweat and tears happened to make that peace, and it
just I think has a better outcome overall.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It absolutely does. It absolutely does.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Lisa, there are sort of two ways of looking at
product that wears that made in America label, and there
are all sorts of reasons to source from the United
States for procuring that product that you're using in the
design world, how do you sort of rank the reasons
why you gave us the beauty behind you? What took
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you into tackling design.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
With this approach? But from you know, is it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
About supporting the economy, supporting American makers?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Is it about that quality?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And we're going to get into the quality part a
little more too, But how do you rank those.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
First and foremost? I want to leave my children my
grandchildren an earth and a world that they can live in.
And by sourcing products here in the United States, it's
so much more sustainable. Everything that we're shipping in from
OIS has a huge carbon footprint just because it has
to come here from overseas, and in many cases, not
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all cases, but in many cases, they aren't following any
kind of environmental restrictions. They're pumping all of those things
into our environment that we're trying to stop here in
the States. So the more I can buy here, the
better off I am. Now, with that said, it is difficult.
You're absolutely right. There are some things that are just
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hard to find here and you have to start making
decisions on what you're going to do. How about pieces
that are assembled here, like when you get into plumbing,
that is something that is more difficult. I also think
that supporting the people that are making the product here
in the States, we as a country, we want to
make sure that we have good work environments for the
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people that are here, that they have a livable wage,
that they have vacation time, paid time off, et cetera. Well,
why is it okay for us then to buy product
from somebody who doesn't have anything? Are you really supporting that?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Then?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know a lot of the products that are made overseas,
they don't have great work environments, and that's really should
be that should be an issue for us. We should
be looking at that saying, well, if we're demanding it
for ourselves, why are we going to go out and
buy the product from somebody who doesn't support them.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
What is the key to switching how Americans approach their
consumer habits because we are sort of taught in this
country or we all want to save a dollar, right,
so we're we're always looking to see what's on sale.
And I think that that's too bad because we all.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Know, we're all we're all girls here.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
We know that we've all been sucked into a sale
too and bought some shoes that we didn't need because
they were on sale. But in all seriousness, we have
this idea in our in our heads that you should
save as much mo and of course nobody wants to
spend any more money than they have to, but that
harkens back to that idea of sustainability because when you
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buy product that is quality, when you spend a little more,
when you save a little more, spend a little more,
invest a little more, that right there is helping the planet.
So do you have any solutions to that or how
we shift consumer habits in this country.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
One of my favorite architects is Frank Lloyd.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I know that's such a like everybody loves Frank Lloyd right,
but I truly truly do. And one of my favorite
things he says is when you invest wisely in beauty,
it remains with you all the days of your lives.
We need to start shifting our thinking to exactly what
you said. We're an instant gratification society. Oh my god,
(10:51):
I need to have that face cream because I just
saw it on that ad. I'll go to Amazon, or
I'll go to the Internet. I'll push the butt. It'll
be here in three days. How wout we all put
our phones down and enjoy the beauty that is around
us and make decisions that are wise decisions, not impulsive decisions.
Trust me, I've bought my pair of shoes on sale.
(11:12):
You know it's been. It's been that joke with my son.
It's on sale, so he means to have to buy it.
That was a mindset many years ago. But we need
to stop doing that. We need to start thinking about
what am I buying? What am I buying? Am I
really buying something I need? Do I look at where
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it's made? And then do I do some research? I mean,
I'll be perfectly transparent and say not everything that I
have around me, especially when it comes to clothing, is
made in America. But I do pause when I pick
something up and look at it and go Okay, if
I really want it, where's it made? And can I
find it made here? I have been pleasantly surprised how
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much I can find made here in the USA.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yes, if you go searching, it is there.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It's there, and you have to be patient. Yeah, yeah,
you have to be patient, you have to do some research.
I mean, you could build an entire house and furnish
it with probably ninety percent of the products made in
the USA. It's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
That is amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So Lisa, let's continue the discussion about quality because again,
going back to that consumer mindset and what we have.
I don't even know that we've been taught this per se.
It's just how we roll, but it's how we've rolled
for decades. You know, there is this emphasis on made
in America, and that's great, as there should be. But
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you know, I think of really great Italian sheets, like
that's where wonderful bed linens are produced, and lacquer that
comes from Asia, wonderful inlay that comes from India. Do
you avoid using things like that or are you for
your clients looking at quality first and you're okay buying
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merchandise that comes where it's supposed to come from.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You make a very very valid point. Look, you are
not going to find Belgian linen in Georgia, right, You're
not going to find that. So there has to be
things that you just have an appreciation for here in
the state. Sure we can grow flax, Sure we can
make linen, but it's not necessarily that ship has sailed
out of the United States. So if I really want
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to have good linen, I've got to import the linen.
I see nothing wrong with bringing in European antiques, for example.
There are certain things that other craftsmen, and there's the
keyword craftsmen. You're supporting a craftsman. I would hope that
if you are bringing product in from overseas, you're doing
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some research to make sure that it's done well. The
factories take care of their people. They are trying to
be as sustainable as they can. But there is a
lot here that you can find. I like to buy
my sheets and towels from Southern draw It is literally
field to fabric. I'm buying beautiful quality cotton sheets that
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are made here in Georgia, and I love them. Can
I digress for one second and tell you a little
bit about Southern Draw for a hot second.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes you can.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I stumbled across Southern Draw by accident by doing my
research looking for towels and sheets for a client. I
decided I was going to buy a set of towels
and try them out first before I recommended them to
my client. So I bought the set of towels. They
were shipped up to me. Three days after I received them,
I got a phone call on my cell phone and
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I didn't recognize the number, so I let the number
just go to voicemail, and the voicemail was from Brian
and he just wanted to thank me for buying buying
the towels. I hope you're enjoying them. Well, I was
so darn impressed that somebody called me. Then I returned
the call. A gentleman picks up the phone and I said, Hi,
I'd like to speak to Brian please, And he said
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mass who's calling? And I said, Lisa Dave Import and
he said, ah, shucks, Lisa, I'm Brian and I'm out
on the field right now, on the tractor in the
cotton field. And I just I just think it's so
important that our customers know it's special that they bought
from us. My mind was blown. I'm like, the farmer
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is calling me to thank me for buying his towels.
I haven't bought a set of towels now for a
few months from them, but every time I do, I'm like,
Brian's thanking you for buying these towels. That's what makes
the story so special, and that is why I don't
even want to buy Italian sheets because I can buy
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beautiful cotton sheets. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yes? And thank you for sharing that source with us.
I mean, we love to see.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It's those It's these conversations though, that really educate people
on what can be bought here, because I think, honestly,
people just don't know. They just assume that they can't
have certain categories of product that are made in the
United States. So I think anytime that you know, we're
all talking about this and sharing that the literal companies
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that produce wonderful and beautiful and high quality merchandise, that
that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And they're not cost prohibitive. That's the other part of
the made in America feedback that I get from clients.
They're like, oh, it's got to be five times the
cost because nobody's going to pick the cop No, actually
a set of towels. I think the two bath towels
was like ninety eight bucks.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's not cost prohibitive.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I mean, I don't speak for our entire audience because
but that is competitive with what other.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Towels absolutely are. Absolutely it absolutely is.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yes, Well, I think that's I think that's wonderful that
you know that you are going to the effort to
seek out these companies too, So that's great.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, Lisa, you mentioned just the challenge of pricing that
that isn't always an issue, because that would kind of
be one of my first things when I would think
of made in America. Sometimes is the challenge of pricing.
But I imagine that you sometimes run into other hurdles
when you are trying to only select made in America.
Can you talk to us about some of those hurdles
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that exist that your business might be combating.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Well, we talked about the cost. You know, we have
to explain two clients that it isn't always cost prohibitive.
We also talk about how I would say probably twenty
five percent of the companies that we source from, we
speak directly to the artisans that are making the product
for us. We've met the CEOs. In many cases, we've
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met the artisans themselves, and we can tell them that
it's not just a table that came in that you
don't know who who has made the table for you.
Gat Creek is a wonderful examit ample. You flip over
any piece of Gack Creek that you purchase, it's made
in Virginia. The artisan that made that has signed it.
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Thomas Moser another beautiful furniture line. They sign their pieces.
When you have somebody over for dinner, you're talking about
your beautiful dining chairs and your beautiful dining table, I'll
flip over a chair and say, look John made this,
and it's just it's a wonderful way of sharing that story.
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It's a wonderful way to make sure that we're not
just buying from another source overseas because it's twenty dollars
less on the chair, which, by the way, is no
longer really an issue the tariffs. Right now, I mean
my inbox and every designer's inbox. I gotta say, how
many emails are you getting getting a day saying that
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there's a price increase. There's got to be at least
fifteen in my inbox right now. My favorite ones to
get are the ones from my American maid companies that
say things like no price to increase, tear a free purchasing,
you know, things like that. And I'm like, yeah, we're
leveling that playing field. So the hurdles are getting smaller
and smaller, or lower and lower, i should say, because
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we are leveling that field even more.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Well, Lisa, And when you talked about you know, the
Thomas Moser, there's something so special about that when you
have a piece and it doesn't matter if it's a
piece of furniture or you know, if it's a piece
of pottery, just having something where you know that human
connection right there. It's a sustainability plus because you're not
as likely to get rid of it. When we're in
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our homes and we're decluttering and getting rid of things,
those pieces, it's like, oh, I'm going to put them
in this pile over here because I'm not quite ready.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I better think about it.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
We're other things that are so mass produced that come
from halfway around the world. They just it's like, no,
I'm done with this and it can move on. You
just don't have a relationship with it.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You don't. And another great company that I would love
to share is Liberty Tabletop. It is the only company
in the United States making stainless steel flatwear. I know
that when I am setting the table with my American garden,
by the way, is the flatware that I have in Connecticut.
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I'm looking for which one's going to be in the
little house in Florida. But I know that when little
Flynn and Hayden, my grandchildren, pick up a fork and
they're put the putting my macaroni and cheese into their mouth,
that is a lead free, toxic free fork. Because make
no mistakes, there there can be because things are made overseas,
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there can be lead and other toxic chemicals that just
they're just a little bit, so it passes coming over here.
I know that in Ryl, New York, there's a bunch
of guys and gals that are building that and I'm
giving them a job. I have given them a job.
Their kids are going to school with a great person
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or whatever it may be. However they choose to use
the fact that people are buying their product, it just
makes me feel wonderful. And those are the kinds of
things we have to pay attention to well.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
When it comes to tabletop Oh my goodness, this country
was full of silver makers, silversmiths if you go back
one hundred years or you don't even have to, and
it's just a tragedy really that you know, all of them,
that that whole industry has evaporated.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
For the most part.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
You're spot on, you're fun on. As a matter of fact,
my dad's family grew up in Meriden, Connecticut. That's where
the silversmiths were. That's where they were.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
There were I mean, there were a hundred of them.
It's not like they were just seven. There were one hundred. Yeah,
I mean, yes, all.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Of those American companies that are no longer. It's really
it's really sad. But hopefully things are turning around. It
sounds like they are.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
There's a new tabletop company and I don't know that
they're new. Are they're Okay, no, they've.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Been around forever. But here's the thing. We don't talk
about it. So you're buying it and you might not
even know you're buying it. What I love that Liberty
Tabletop does and when you flip over to their website,
because I absolutely know you will when they flip over
to your what their website, you'll see that they have
also it's not theirs, but they collaborate with like Libby
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Glassware made in America. They have a whole line of
pots and pans and stuff like that. So they've decided
that they're not just going to give you the fork
and the knife and so forth. They're going to make
sure that you know where you can get American made
glassware and so forth.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
What a great collaboration. That's wonderful to hear that they
do that together. Lisa, you've celebrated a few of these
American made companies and I love hearing about it. I
would love for you to educate us on other companies
if you're willing to share that you have discovered and
used for the procurement in your projects.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Sure, you know, as a designer, I think about what
are some of the things that clients and your listeners
are going to use over and over and over again.
Cambria Countertops is oh we all know that that. Oh yeah,
it's a fabulous, fabulous, fabulous product. I mean, I tell
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the story of how on our countertops in the house
in Durham my seventeen year old son decided to take
his transmission out and he left it on my counter.
True story, left and on my counter. He's still alive
to talk about it, left and on my counter. I
came in, had a little bit of a hissy fit.
He brought it back out and I was like, oh
(23:36):
my god, there's Greece and everything. That countertop was perfect.
He's like, no, what's the big deal. I'm like, you
ever do that again? I don't know what I'll do.
Have you lived been to the facility I have that
This is one of the facilities I've been to. Not
only is it a great product right because they have
the what is it like seven percent resin in their countertops,
(23:59):
but first off, you can eat off the floors in there, okay,
anywhere in that facility. But there's other things that that
company does that just like, ugh, I just can't get
enough of it. They have a program that they teach
English as a second language to help advance the employees
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that they have. I looked at them and said, wait
what they said? Mark, the CEO was trying to figure
out why they kept and hire people from outside and
they weren't bringing their own employees up through the through
the ladders of the manufacturing and it was because most
of them weren't fluent in English. So he said, we're
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not going to be doing that. We want to grow
the people that are here. They've had already one hundred
employees go through the program, but when they started to
run out of employees that needed to learn English as
a second language, they brought their families in. Isn't that
the kind of company you want to stand behind?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Well, And that's the thing with these Made in a
Marria companies.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Oftentimes they are giving back in some way, shape or form,
and the breadth and the depth of the types of
programs that they support is vast. And so when we
support those companies, we're supporting other things as well.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And I know that when you're talking about great, big companies.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You know, corporate America can get a bad name a
lot of the times, but at the same time, they
are also giving back to so many programs, and so
when we support those companies, we're supporting the people who
work for them, and just communities too.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Really right right well, and Camber especially I think is
very fashioned forward. When you think about courts, I think
they're the ones leading innovation and designs that we're all
using on our countertops.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
And they started out as a cheese company. Yeah, I
mean that's crazy when you think about it. They I
mean talk about innovation, and that's what America is is
all about. We're all.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Start with cheese. I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Absolutely, I've never met a cheese I don't love another
great company that I've had the pleasure of spending some
time at their factory. Also is Hubberton Forge. And when
I talk to clients and other designers, because a lot
of designers do call me and ask me for guidance
with American made products, I talk about Hubberton Forge and
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they're like, oh, well, you know what's so great about
Hubberton Forge. I'm like, well, wait a minute, time out.
They're like real blacksmiths. They are blacksmiths. And when you
do a little Internet Google and ask how many blacksmiths
are in the United States, it was like ten thousand, okay,
but only ten percent of that ten thousand do it professionally.
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Others are just hobbyists. So when I had the opportunity
toward the factory, I was like blown away. There's women.
Not to be sexist or anything, but there's so many
times we think of a blacksmith as a big, burly guy,
you know, he's got to hammer that. There's these great
twenty something thirty something gals making these light fixtures that
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are bigger than themselves, you know, me making the pieces.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And heavy as can be.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Oh my god, heavi as can be. They really do
believe in sustainability, right down to the way they're packaging
their lights now than when I did my tour. They
were so excited because they were phasing out using any
spray foam in their packaging. It's now all done with
cut cardboard and what we refer to and at LDD
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as cardboard cheese because there are these little triangle things
with holes in all over them, but they're sustainable. They
work on finishes that have a lifetime finish on their lights.
We work in southwest Florida. Do you know how fast
clients are going through exterior lights because they don't have
a finish on them that will withstand the elements. That's
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unacceptable in my opinion. You're putting a light in and
then in five years you're throwing it into the landfill
and you're buying another one that's not the earth. I
want to save from my kids and my grandkids. I
don't what anybody else does.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And I think you brought up an interesting point, Lisa,
when you're talking about, you know, being a blacksmith, whether
it's done professionally or as a hobby. I think that Americans,
especially conjure these ideas of eighteen thirty two, and it
looks a certain way, and I do think that we
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tend to be very attracted to the flash, to this
shiny new penny.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That's what we want.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
And when you've been in a home, I've been in
many where the focus has been more on quality versus
aesthetic necessarily, not that these companies don't manufacture things that
are beautiful and designed forward as well, but there are
some people who are really just focused on that artisonal,
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handcrafted look quality, and sometimes it doesn't have the latest,
greatest pattern. Sometimes it doesn't have everything all shiny and glitzy.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And you have to be okay with that.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
We need to allow ourselves to enjoy those design pauses,
those moments that are a little more quiet and they're
not trying to be a statement.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
You are spot on, and I often say to clients,
you know, lighting is a big thing. We all know
how important lighting is, but it doesn't always have to
be the belle of the ball, right, it can be
one of the supporting ladies. And I've had in the
past clients have said to me, that is a really
simple fixture. I can see it online for a quarter
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of the amount. I said, well, it's not the same fixture. Well,
what is so great about what you're giving me compared
to what I'm seeing here. Hulberton Forge does integrated LED
lighting in a lot of their fixtures. Those LED lights
are sourced in the United States. Most fixtures have LED lights,
they're sourced overseas. When you look at that fixture, look
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at how it's hung. How is the craftsmanship of the
wire coming through? And they're like, oh, yeah, the wire's
kind of wavy as it goes up. Right. You want
a fixture, even if it's a simple fixture, to be
nothing short or perfect when it's hanging in the middle
of that room. Something that the LED lights aren't going
to die in a couple of years or short out
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or melt part of the fixture because part of its
plastic instead of metal or forged. There's so many elements
that we have to keep in mind that if you
spend thirty percent more today, you're going to have it
one hundred percent longer than the other one is. You're
going to have it for ten, fifteen, twenty years as
opposed to three years. Buy the quality, like I said,
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by the quality.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, and one of my favorite things about that brand
too is you also can get so many different finishes, Like,
it's not just your three standard metal finishes. You can
customize things and even just customize the scale to make
it work for the space that you need it in too.
So it's better design as well, because you're getting it
exactly the way you want it and not just coming close.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
You're absolutely right. And the two guys that are in
the custom department, Oh, I'm embarrassed to say I remember Jeff,
but I can't remember the other guy's name. There are
who and anything. If you want to change something by
two inches, they redesign it, reproportion it, and make it happen.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's so cool.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
You want a hot pink chandelier, Oh, there you go. Yeah,
and a blacksmith made it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Lisa, I'm going to paraphrase one of your Connecticut neighbors,
and I don't think Stacey would care. But Stacy comes
Stall from Dunes and Duchess, who we all know. She
said something to me many years ago about this exact topic,
which I when you were talking about lighting, it made
so much sense to me. She too was committed to
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finding all of the parts and pieces for their lighting
fixtures that they manufacture locally, because she said, if there's
a problem, I want somebody who's two hours away. I
don't want somebody who's twenty four hours away on a
plane if you're lucky, and I want somebody who I
can call and worst case scenario, get in my car
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and go pick it up myself. And you know she
can do that, because she said that they too were
very committed to having all of the bits and pieces
super super localized. And I thought that was really interesting
and she and again I don't think she would mind
that I shared the story. She said, when we go
to Europe and we when we take trips abroad, we
want a vacation.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We don't want to work.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
And I thought that was so poignant and effective and
impactful because I think that's what's happened to so many
people when they go to Europe, when they travel to
these interesting places all around the world. It's because they're
getting a parts and bits and pieces and parts and
mechanisms and from elsewhere. And you know what a better
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way if you're going to travel elsewhere to just do
it as a vacation and it's a learning experience and
not because you're manufacturing something that needs what they have
to offer.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Stacy is Adell. I love Stacy, I just adore her.
And like Dunes and Duchess Hubberton Forge has only I
believe two or three glass globes that have to be imported.
Simon and Pierce does their glass. They have another one
out of New Hampshire. Their leather for their light fixtures
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comes out of New Hampshire. Their LEDs are coming right
across the line. It's like right there. They're getting them
in New Hampshire also, so they definitely are keeping it tight.
It also reduces their carbon footprint. When Stacy needs something,
she's not hopping on a plane like you said, or
driving four hours. She makes a quick phone called boom,
it's there, right, And that's the beauty of keeping it local.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Let's talk about the consumer word of the year thus
far in twenty twenty five and that is the.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
T word sounds like tariffs.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Everybody has been talking about it, talking about them for
the last several months now. And regardless of how these
tariffs land, if they're lifted, if we move forward.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
With them, whatever that looks like.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
What do you think the conversation is with Americans right now?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Let's say it's not a problem in a.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Year, how do you think that will change consumerism? Or
do you think it will? What do you see three
years from now? Do you think that this has ignited
the whole conversation and again that mindset switch about needing
to purchase more from this country.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
So it's interesting. I think that we've started a really
great conversation. But I think there's also something that's been
happening that even before the tariffs came to be, and
that was the shift into the trades, the shift into artisans,
and not every kid graduates from high school and runs
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off to college. College is important. I am not by
any means saying college isn't important, but college isn't for everybody,
and we need to remember that there are wonderful craftsmen
out there, wonderful tradesmen and women out there that are
starting to there's a resurgence of that. Not only trade
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schools are getting more and more kids and adults applying.
There's been this idea that we couldn't manufacture here because
we didn't have the people that wanted to do the jobs.
I've big to differ. There's a lot of people here
that want to do the jobs. There's a lot of
people that take pride in what they do every single day.
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There are carpenters, there are furniture builders, there's blacksmiths. There's
Brian with its tractor in the middle of a field
getting the cotton. You know, people do want to do that.
I think we've pushed so many of our young people
into college that we lost some of that hands on
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trade work. And it doesn't mean that if you go
into the trades you're not going to make a good living.
My own son is twenty seven years old. He went
to a trade school. He went and he worked in
the field. Today he works for Pratt and Whitney on
the facility side. He's not building the aircraft engines, but
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he's making a heck of a living. And I think
we need to shift our mindset into supporting our youth
in a different track. If they want it. From college
into the trades. It's a wonderful thing to build something
with your own hands, to look at something and say
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I did that.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I think that people feel smart and they feel good
when they get their hands dirty and do something for themselves.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
And you know, I think what came out.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Of the pan as you saw all sorts of people
with big, corporate, fancy jobs saying I don't want to
do this anymore. I want to paint and I want
to craft something, and I want chickens in my backyard.
So there's certainly a movement toward that. Not that we
still need We still need.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Doctors, of course.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Of course, of course.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
We still need people to go into the medical industry.
But I do think that there's this yearning where everybody
wants to get their hands a little dirty. And I
think for decades that just wasn't something that you know,
it was so I mean, I hate to say this,
but it was somewhat of a status thing, and you know,
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people didn't want to get their hands dirty because they
thought about what that meant or what that symbolized, or
in their minds, that symbolized something negative or that they
hadn't achieved.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And so I love that right now at this moment
in time.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And by the way, it's such an exciting time to
be a live and watch all of this shifting going on.
But it really is interesting. I think how we are
speaking to ourselves more and what's human nature? And I
think it is human nature to make things beautiful. That's
why the pyramids exist, right if you go all the
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way back to absolute those very wise Egyptians and the
maxie that they had. But you know, I think it's
so much of its human nature and maybe we, you know,
put a choke hold on what human nature is for
so long and now it's sort of coming out of
our pores in a really great way. So that leads
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us to the next point, which is super exciting. We
are recording this episode one week before the fourth of July,
and what makes it more exciting this year is we
are also about to embark as an entire country on
this nation's two hundred and fifty a year, which is
a milestone that all of us us will only have
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once in our lifetime. It's such an exciting time to
look forward to. So what excites you about this because
as somebody who is so committed to the American spirit
and building literally building what this country has to offer
from the manufacturing side.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
What excites you about this time?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I think that the American story is some of the
most beautiful stories that have ever been written. When you
look at how we started, how this country came to be,
the innovation, everything we've done in the last two hundred
and fifty years, we've been the leader almost always right,
and I think to myself, this country is so great.
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It is drip with knowledge and great people. On this
two hundred and fifty birthday, I can't wait to see
what's about to happen. You're absolutely right. It's exciting. It's
not scary, it's not overwhelming. It is exciting, and we
need to wrap our arms around it and say, show
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me what you got, Show me what you got, because
there's generations behind us that need to experience what we experienced.
My grandmother died when she was one hundred years old,
one hundred. I think back, I mean, she's been going
a few years now, but when I think back at
what she saw in her lifetime, she was riding in
a horse and carriage and I remember I picked her
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up in a fancy sports card. She's like she's she
saw the computers. You know. It's just that's what we
need to focus on. That we are our great country.
God bless America and God bless all the people that
create this wonderful, wonderful country. Because there's some great stuff happening.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Well, thank you for you know, encapsulating that so beautifully.
And it's going to be an exciting year. I think
as we start this next you know, on the fourth
of July, and an entire year of celebri it'll be
really fun. So, Lisa, thank you so much for being
with us today. We like to end every episode by
asking our guests the same.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Question, and that is what does your perfect boulevard look like?
Speaker 4 (41:14):
So this is going to come as a huge surprise
to you, but in my perfect boulevard, each house and
business has an American flag flying from its porch or
from a flagpole. It's a boulevard or a road that
has mixed use where people can work and live close
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together without having work take over their home life. Work
doesn't go into your home life. The road is a
specific architecture. It allows each person and company and building
to have its own personality. It is also a road
that has wide sidewalks with plenty of places to sit
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for at film because in that community, people walk and
they talk, They hang out. They talk about life, They
talk about the rose gardens, they talk about the baseball
game the night before, they talk about things that are
difficult without judgment.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's your perfect boulevard, that's my perfect bulevard. Well we
love it.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
And Lisa, we think you are the bell of the
Maiden America Ball.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
You are not just a supporting lady. You are the
bell of the ball.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
So thank you for your time. This has been such
an inspiring conversation. And again this will air a couple
of days before the fourth of July, so happy fourth
of July. We wish you lots of watermelon, some warm weather,
and some downtime to watch reruns of Little House on
the Prairie.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
I will be doing all of that, and I wish
the same for both of you. Thank you so much
for this opportunity. I love talking with you guys.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
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we take a stroll down another boulevard
Welcome to Boulevard Beat, a podcast where life and style intersect.
I'm designer Megan Bloom along with my co hosts, editor CHRISA.
Rossbund and gallery owner Liz Legit. This podcast focuses on
the daily highlights instead of the hustle, interviews with taste makers,
and personal conversations on how to highlight achievable style. You
constrol one street at a time, Boulevard Beat proves the.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
One you should take.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
As we head into the fourth of July, we wanted
to spotlight a designer whose work is as American as
it is beautiful. Today on Boulevard Bet, we're joined by
Lisa Davenport, the founder and CEO of ld D Interiors
and the creative mind behind her signature style she calls
Kashmir in blue Jeans. Lisa's designs are rooted in comfort, craftsmanship,
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and character. With over twenty five years of experience, she
brings a passion for livable luxury and a deep commitment
to sourcing locally made, American crafted goods. She's led high
Point Markets Made in America tour, spoken at the Iconic
A and D Building in New York, and her work
has been featured in publications like Modern Farmhouse and Luxury
Pools her mission to build America's dream home, one thoughtfully
(01:17):
sourced piece at a time. If you love design with
a soul and a little patriotic pride, this episode is
for you.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Let's dive in.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Welcome Lisa. We are excited to have you join us
today on Boulevard Beat.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Thank you, I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We love to start every episode by asking our guests
to tell us about the street that they grew up on,
so love to hear your answer.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
My street was Harvey Road in Durham, Connecticut, and the
road was a dirt road that was literally impassable during
the spring months. Yes, I used to stop at the
end of the road and hoof it in a half
mile to get to my parents' house. I think my
parents thought that they wanted their own life, my little
house on the prairie experience for their girls. We cooked
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on a wood stove for three years, had no TV
for three years, and I was surrounded by hundreds of
acres of state forest with one neighbor. So the street
I grew up on kind of prepared me to be
a little bit of a survivalist maybe, and in today's
world that's not such a bad thing to be.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, it sounds like it set you up for a
lot of imaginative play, just growing up in the woods
and just being out with nature and having to create
your own fun and creative play. So tell us a
little bit more how you found your way to the
design industry.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
So I did take a traditional route. I don't do
much things traditionally, to be honest with you, But I
obtained my associate's degree in graphic design, and I quickly
landed myself a job. I do have some good raw talent.
I'm the daughter of a fine artist. So I quickly
landed a job. And in two weeks I was climbing
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the walls because I was in a four by four
cubicle and nobody talked to me. I'm sure you're all
shocked that I was having trouble, you know, not being
in a room when people were talking to me. So
I went. I actually went to work for Bob's Clothing store,
and I was a visual merchandiser for about a year.
I got to build my own sets. It was almost
like being a set designer for a play. That's the
extent that they would allow us.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
To go to.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Sadly, I probably could have made a career out of that,
but sadly management was in a bad place, and I
left there to go work for a paint and decorating store,
and I was hired as a decorator. I had no
idea what I was doing. I didn't even know what
a roll wallpaper looked like. The paint starer owners took
a chance on me. I learned the paint and the
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wallpaper and the little things that went along way that
we would sell, balances and so forth. Very quickly. I
knew I needed to move into this career. When a
woman came in, I had chosen wallpaper, a border, Oh
my god, a border. That's how long I've been doing this.
A border, and a balance and a paint color. And
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she came in a couple weeks later with glossy four
by six photos because you know what, we didn't have
our phones then to show us pictures, right, she showed
me before and after and she was squealing with delight.
I was like, I'm so happy, you're happy, and she's like,
you did this for me. I got the bug. I
got the bug right then and there, I'm like, that
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is what I want to do. I want to make
people's homes places where they are that excited to be
in them. So from there, the owner of the paint
store saw my talent. I went back to school to
start to study interior design. He opened a six thousand
square foot italianaid home that was just filled to the
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gills with high end fabrics, furnishing, rugs, etc. He made
me a partner for fifteen years we were a sought
after location in central Connecticut, and thirteen years ago, in
twenty twelve, split and I opened LDD.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Lisa as a designer myself. We all kind of have
our own little niches and we kind of follow different
areas of specialty. And you've created your own specialty which
incorporates all things made in America, which is wonderful giving
all of that back to our country. What prompted you
to navigate your business into a maiden America mission?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You hit the nail on the head when you asked
me about being creative and being out in the woods
with no TV. Right, So I mentioned to you that
my mom was a fine artist. My husband, before he
made a career change, was a builder. He is a
master carpenter. My dad always worked with his hands. I
always found it so interesting to me to see how
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things were made. I almost wonder if I should have
been a cabinet maker sometimes or an architect, because I
love to know what goes into making things. I also
love to know the story behind it. So when I
started learning by chance about companies here in America and
how the stories that came behind it, the family stories,
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I was like, why aren't we buying more in America?
And when I design a space, I'm really telling the
client's story, right, I'm telling their story through design, and
when I can bring back to them products with great
stories that they can talk about. The table was made
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by a small little craftsman that has a woodworking shop,
it just it brings me great joy. Then I started
thinking about it even further and the fact that it's
more sustainable that we're keeping jobs here. I started to
say to myself, why aren't we doing more of this?
And it became a passion well, and I love that too.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I think as a designer too, when you're able to
have a little bit more of a story and share
where something's coming from, people love that. They love knowing
the things they're going to enjoy in their home. The blood,
sweat and tears happened to make that peace, and it
just I think has a better outcome overall.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It absolutely does. It absolutely does.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Lisa, there are sort of two ways of looking at
product that wears that made in America label, and there
are all sorts of reasons to source from the United
States for procuring that product that you're using in the
design world, how do you sort of rank the reasons
why you gave us the beauty behind you? What took
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you into tackling design.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
With this approach? But from you know, is it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
About supporting the economy, supporting American makers?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Is it about that quality?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And we're going to get into the quality part a
little more too, But how do you rank those.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
First and foremost? I want to leave my children my
grandchildren an earth and a world that they can live in.
And by sourcing products here in the United States, it's
so much more sustainable. Everything that we're shipping in from
OIS has a huge carbon footprint just because it has
to come here from overseas, and in many cases, not
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all cases, but in many cases, they aren't following any
kind of environmental restrictions. They're pumping all of those things
into our environment that we're trying to stop here in
the States. So the more I can buy here, the
better off I am. Now, with that said, it is difficult.
You're absolutely right. There are some things that are just
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hard to find here and you have to start making
decisions on what you're going to do. How about pieces
that are assembled here, like when you get into plumbing,
that is something that is more difficult. I also think
that supporting the people that are making the product here
in the States, we as a country, we want to
make sure that we have good work environments for the
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people that are here, that they have a livable wage,
that they have vacation time, paid time off, et cetera. Well,
why is it okay for us then to buy product
from somebody who doesn't have anything? Are you really supporting that?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Then?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know a lot of the products that are made overseas,
they don't have great work environments, and that's really should
be that should be an issue for us. We should
be looking at that saying, well, if we're demanding it
for ourselves, why are we going to go out and
buy the product from somebody who doesn't support them.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
What is the key to switching how Americans approach their
consumer habits because we are sort of taught in this
country or we all want to save a dollar, right,
so we're we're always looking to see what's on sale.
And I think that that's too bad because we all.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Know, we're all we're all girls here.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
We know that we've all been sucked into a sale
too and bought some shoes that we didn't need because
they were on sale. But in all seriousness, we have
this idea in our in our heads that you should
save as much mo and of course nobody wants to
spend any more money than they have to, but that
harkens back to that idea of sustainability because when you
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buy product that is quality, when you spend a little more,
when you save a little more, spend a little more,
invest a little more, that right there is helping the planet.
So do you have any solutions to that or how
we shift consumer habits in this country.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
One of my favorite architects is Frank Lloyd.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I know that's such a like everybody loves Frank Lloyd right,
but I truly truly do. And one of my favorite
things he says is when you invest wisely in beauty,
it remains with you all the days of your lives.
We need to start shifting our thinking to exactly what
you said. We're an instant gratification society. Oh my god,
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I need to have that face cream because I just
saw it on that ad. I'll go to Amazon, or
I'll go to the Internet. I'll push the butt. It'll
be here in three days. How wout we all put
our phones down and enjoy the beauty that is around
us and make decisions that are wise decisions, not impulsive decisions.
Trust me, I've bought my pair of shoes on sale.
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You know it's been. It's been that joke with my son.
It's on sale, so he means to have to buy it.
That was a mindset many years ago. But we need
to stop doing that. We need to start thinking about
what am I buying? What am I buying? Am I
really buying something I need? Do I look at where
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it's made? And then do I do some research? I mean,
I'll be perfectly transparent and say not everything that I
have around me, especially when it comes to clothing, is
made in America. But I do pause when I pick
something up and look at it and go Okay, if
I really want it, where's it made? And can I
find it made here? I have been pleasantly surprised how
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much I can find made here in the USA.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yes, if you go searching, it is there.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It's there, and you have to be patient. Yeah, yeah,
you have to be patient, you have to do some research.
I mean, you could build an entire house and furnish
it with probably ninety percent of the products made in
the USA. It's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
That is amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
So Lisa, let's continue the discussion about quality because again,
going back to that consumer mindset and what we have.
I don't even know that we've been taught this per se.
It's just how we roll, but it's how we've rolled
for decades. You know, there is this emphasis on made
in America, and that's great, as there should be. But
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you know, I think of really great Italian sheets, like
that's where wonderful bed linens are produced, and lacquer that
comes from Asia, wonderful inlay that comes from India. Do
you avoid using things like that or are you for
your clients looking at quality first and you're okay buying
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merchandise that comes where it's supposed to come from.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You make a very very valid point. Look, you are
not going to find Belgian linen in Georgia, right, You're
not going to find that. So there has to be
things that you just have an appreciation for here in
the state. Sure we can grow flax, Sure we can
make linen, but it's not necessarily that ship has sailed
out of the United States. So if I really want
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to have good linen, I've got to import the linen.
I see nothing wrong with bringing in European antiques, for example.
There are certain things that other craftsmen, and there's the
keyword craftsmen. You're supporting a craftsman. I would hope that
if you are bringing product in from overseas, you're doing
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some research to make sure that it's done well. The
factories take care of their people. They are trying to
be as sustainable as they can. But there is a
lot here that you can find. I like to buy
my sheets and towels from Southern draw It is literally
field to fabric. I'm buying beautiful quality cotton sheets that
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are made here in Georgia, and I love them. Can
I digress for one second and tell you a little
bit about Southern Draw for a hot second.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes you can.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I stumbled across Southern Draw by accident by doing my
research looking for towels and sheets for a client. I
decided I was going to buy a set of towels
and try them out first before I recommended them to
my client. So I bought the set of towels. They
were shipped up to me. Three days after I received them,
I got a phone call on my cell phone and
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I didn't recognize the number, so I let the number
just go to voicemail, and the voicemail was from Brian
and he just wanted to thank me for buying buying
the towels. I hope you're enjoying them. Well, I was
so darn impressed that somebody called me. Then I returned
the call. A gentleman picks up the phone and I said, Hi,
I'd like to speak to Brian please, And he said
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mass who's calling? And I said, Lisa Dave Import and
he said, ah, shucks, Lisa, I'm Brian and I'm out
on the field right now, on the tractor in the
cotton field. And I just I just think it's so
important that our customers know it's special that they bought
from us. My mind was blown. I'm like, the farmer
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is calling me to thank me for buying his towels.
I haven't bought a set of towels now for a
few months from them, but every time I do, I'm like,
Brian's thanking you for buying these towels. That's what makes
the story so special, and that is why I don't
even want to buy Italian sheets because I can buy
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beautiful cotton sheets. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yes? And thank you for sharing that source with us.
I mean, we love to see.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It's those It's these conversations though, that really educate people
on what can be bought here, because I think, honestly,
people just don't know. They just assume that they can't
have certain categories of product that are made in the
United States. So I think anytime that you know, we're
all talking about this and sharing that the literal companies
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that produce wonderful and beautiful and high quality merchandise, that
that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And they're not cost prohibitive. That's the other part of
the made in America feedback that I get from clients.
They're like, oh, it's got to be five times the
cost because nobody's going to pick the cop No, actually
a set of towels. I think the two bath towels
was like ninety eight bucks.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's not cost prohibitive.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I mean, I don't speak for our entire audience because
but that is competitive with what other.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Towels absolutely are. Absolutely it absolutely is.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yes, Well, I think that's I think that's wonderful that
you know that you are going to the effort to
seek out these companies too, So that's great.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, Lisa, you mentioned just the challenge of pricing that
that isn't always an issue, because that would kind of
be one of my first things when I would think
of made in America. Sometimes is the challenge of pricing.
But I imagine that you sometimes run into other hurdles
when you are trying to only select made in America.
Can you talk to us about some of those hurdles
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that exist that your business might be combating.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Well, we talked about the cost. You know, we have
to explain two clients that it isn't always cost prohibitive.
We also talk about how I would say probably twenty
five percent of the companies that we source from, we
speak directly to the artisans that are making the product
for us. We've met the CEOs. In many cases, we've
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met the artisans themselves, and we can tell them that
it's not just a table that came in that you
don't know who who has made the table for you.
Gat Creek is a wonderful examit ample. You flip over
any piece of Gack Creek that you purchase, it's made
in Virginia. The artisan that made that has signed it.
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Thomas Moser another beautiful furniture line. They sign their pieces.
When you have somebody over for dinner, you're talking about
your beautiful dining chairs and your beautiful dining table, I'll
flip over a chair and say, look John made this,
and it's just it's a wonderful way of sharing that story.
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It's a wonderful way to make sure that we're not
just buying from another source overseas because it's twenty dollars
less on the chair, which, by the way, is no
longer really an issue the tariffs. Right now, I mean
my inbox and every designer's inbox. I gotta say, how
many emails are you getting getting a day saying that
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there's a price increase. There's got to be at least
fifteen in my inbox right now. My favorite ones to
get are the ones from my American maid companies that
say things like no price to increase, tear a free purchasing,
you know, things like that. And I'm like, yeah, we're
leveling that playing field. So the hurdles are getting smaller
and smaller, or lower and lower, i should say, because
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we are leveling that field even more.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Well, Lisa, And when you talked about you know, the
Thomas Moser, there's something so special about that when you
have a piece and it doesn't matter if it's a
piece of furniture or you know, if it's a piece
of pottery, just having something where you know that human
connection right there. It's a sustainability plus because you're not
as likely to get rid of it. When we're in
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our homes and we're decluttering and getting rid of things,
those pieces, it's like, oh, I'm going to put them
in this pile over here because I'm not quite ready.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I better think about it.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
We're other things that are so mass produced that come
from halfway around the world. They just it's like, no,
I'm done with this and it can move on. You
just don't have a relationship with it.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You don't. And another great company that I would love
to share is Liberty Tabletop. It is the only company
in the United States making stainless steel flatwear. I know
that when I am setting the table with my American garden,
by the way, is the flatware that I have in Connecticut.
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I'm looking for which one's going to be in the
little house in Florida. But I know that when little
Flynn and Hayden, my grandchildren, pick up a fork and
they're put the putting my macaroni and cheese into their mouth,
that is a lead free, toxic free fork. Because make
no mistakes, there there can be because things are made overseas,
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there can be lead and other toxic chemicals that just
they're just a little bit, so it passes coming over here.
I know that in Ryl, New York, there's a bunch
of guys and gals that are building that and I'm
giving them a job. I have given them a job.
Their kids are going to school with a great person
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or whatever it may be. However they choose to use
the fact that people are buying their product, it just
makes me feel wonderful. And those are the kinds of
things we have to pay attention to well.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
When it comes to tabletop Oh my goodness, this country
was full of silver makers, silversmiths if you go back
one hundred years or you don't even have to, and
it's just a tragedy really that you know, all of them,
that that whole industry has evaporated.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
For the most part.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
You're spot on, you're fun on. As a matter of fact,
my dad's family grew up in Meriden, Connecticut. That's where
the silversmiths were. That's where they were.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
There were I mean, there were a hundred of them.
It's not like they were just seven. There were one hundred. Yeah,
I mean, yes, all.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Of those American companies that are no longer. It's really
it's really sad. But hopefully things are turning around. It
sounds like they are.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
There's a new tabletop company and I don't know that
they're new. Are they're Okay, no, they've.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Been around forever. But here's the thing. We don't talk
about it. So you're buying it and you might not
even know you're buying it. What I love that Liberty
Tabletop does and when you flip over to their website,
because I absolutely know you will when they flip over
to your what their website, you'll see that they have
also it's not theirs, but they collaborate with like Libby
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Glassware made in America. They have a whole line of
pots and pans and stuff like that. So they've decided
that they're not just going to give you the fork
and the knife and so forth. They're going to make
sure that you know where you can get American made
glassware and so forth.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
What a great collaboration. That's wonderful to hear that they
do that together. Lisa, you've celebrated a few of these
American made companies and I love hearing about it. I
would love for you to educate us on other companies
if you're willing to share that you have discovered and
used for the procurement in your projects.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Sure, you know, as a designer, I think about what
are some of the things that clients and your listeners
are going to use over and over and over again.
Cambria Countertops is oh we all know that that. Oh yeah,
it's a fabulous, fabulous, fabulous product. I mean, I tell
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the story of how on our countertops in the house
in Durham my seventeen year old son decided to take
his transmission out and he left it on my counter.
True story, left and on my counter. He's still alive
to talk about it, left and on my counter. I
came in, had a little bit of a hissy fit.
He brought it back out and I was like, oh
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my god, there's Greece and everything. That countertop was perfect.
He's like, no, what's the big deal. I'm like, you
ever do that again? I don't know what I'll do.
Have you lived been to the facility I have that
This is one of the facilities I've been to. Not
only is it a great product right because they have
the what is it like seven percent resin in their countertops,
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but first off, you can eat off the floors in there, okay,
anywhere in that facility. But there's other things that that
company does that just like, ugh, I just can't get
enough of it. They have a program that they teach
English as a second language to help advance the employees
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that they have. I looked at them and said, wait
what they said? Mark, the CEO was trying to figure
out why they kept and hire people from outside and
they weren't bringing their own employees up through the through
the ladders of the manufacturing and it was because most
of them weren't fluent in English. So he said, we're
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not going to be doing that. We want to grow
the people that are here. They've had already one hundred
employees go through the program, but when they started to
run out of employees that needed to learn English as
a second language, they brought their families in. Isn't that
the kind of company you want to stand behind?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Well, And that's the thing with these Made in a
Marria companies.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Oftentimes they are giving back in some way, shape or form,
and the breadth and the depth of the types of
programs that they support is vast. And so when we
support those companies, we're supporting other things as well.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And I know that when you're talking about great, big companies.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You know, corporate America can get a bad name a
lot of the times, but at the same time, they
are also giving back to so many programs, and so
when we support those companies, we're supporting the people who
work for them, and just communities too.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Really right right well, and Camber especially I think is
very fashioned forward. When you think about courts, I think
they're the ones leading innovation and designs that we're all
using on our countertops.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
And they started out as a cheese company. Yeah, I
mean that's crazy when you think about it. They I
mean talk about innovation, and that's what America is is
all about. We're all.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Start with cheese. I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Absolutely, I've never met a cheese I don't love another
great company that I've had the pleasure of spending some
time at their factory. Also is Hubberton Forge. And when
I talk to clients and other designers, because a lot
of designers do call me and ask me for guidance
with American made products, I talk about Hubberton Forge and
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they're like, oh, well, you know what's so great about
Hubberton Forge. I'm like, well, wait a minute, time out.
They're like real blacksmiths. They are blacksmiths. And when you
do a little Internet Google and ask how many blacksmiths
are in the United States, it was like ten thousand, okay,
but only ten percent of that ten thousand do it professionally.
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Others are just hobbyists. So when I had the opportunity
toward the factory, I was like blown away. There's women.
Not to be sexist or anything, but there's so many
times we think of a blacksmith as a big, burly guy,
you know, he's got to hammer that. There's these great
twenty something thirty something gals making these light fixtures that
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are bigger than themselves, you know, me making the pieces.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
And heavy as can be.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Oh my god, heavi as can be. They really do
believe in sustainability, right down to the way they're packaging
their lights now than when I did my tour. They
were so excited because they were phasing out using any
spray foam in their packaging. It's now all done with
cut cardboard and what we refer to and at LDD
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as cardboard cheese because there are these little triangle things
with holes in all over them, but they're sustainable. They
work on finishes that have a lifetime finish on their lights.
We work in southwest Florida. Do you know how fast
clients are going through exterior lights because they don't have
a finish on them that will withstand the elements. That's
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unacceptable in my opinion. You're putting a light in and
then in five years you're throwing it into the landfill
and you're buying another one that's not the earth. I
want to save from my kids and my grandkids. I
don't what anybody else does.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And I think you brought up an interesting point, Lisa,
when you're talking about, you know, being a blacksmith, whether
it's done professionally or as a hobby. I think that Americans,
especially conjure these ideas of eighteen thirty two, and it
looks a certain way, and I do think that we
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tend to be very attracted to the flash, to this
shiny new penny.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That's what we want.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
And when you've been in a home, I've been in
many where the focus has been more on quality versus
aesthetic necessarily, not that these companies don't manufacture things that
are beautiful and designed forward as well, but there are
some people who are really just focused on that artisonal,
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handcrafted look quality, and sometimes it doesn't have the latest,
greatest pattern. Sometimes it doesn't have everything all shiny and glitzy.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And you have to be okay with that.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
We need to allow ourselves to enjoy those design pauses,
those moments that are a little more quiet and they're
not trying to be a statement.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
You are spot on, and I often say to clients,
you know, lighting is a big thing. We all know
how important lighting is, but it doesn't always have to
be the belle of the ball, right, it can be
one of the supporting ladies. And I've had in the
past clients have said to me, that is a really
simple fixture. I can see it online for a quarter
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of the amount. I said, well, it's not the same fixture. Well,
what is so great about what you're giving me compared
to what I'm seeing here. Hulberton Forge does integrated LED
lighting in a lot of their fixtures. Those LED lights
are sourced in the United States. Most fixtures have LED lights,
they're sourced overseas. When you look at that fixture, look
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at how it's hung. How is the craftsmanship of the
wire coming through? And they're like, oh, yeah, the wire's
kind of wavy as it goes up. Right. You want
a fixture, even if it's a simple fixture, to be
nothing short or perfect when it's hanging in the middle
of that room. Something that the LED lights aren't going
to die in a couple of years or short out
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or melt part of the fixture because part of its
plastic instead of metal or forged. There's so many elements
that we have to keep in mind that if you
spend thirty percent more today, you're going to have it
one hundred percent longer than the other one is. You're
going to have it for ten, fifteen, twenty years as
opposed to three years. Buy the quality, like I said,
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by the quality.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Well, and one of my favorite things about that brand
too is you also can get so many different finishes, Like,
it's not just your three standard metal finishes. You can
customize things and even just customize the scale to make
it work for the space that you need it in too.
So it's better design as well, because you're getting it
exactly the way you want it and not just coming close.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
You're absolutely right. And the two guys that are in
the custom department, Oh, I'm embarrassed to say I remember Jeff,
but I can't remember the other guy's name. There are
who and anything. If you want to change something by
two inches, they redesign it, reproportion it, and make it happen.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's so cool.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
You want a hot pink chandelier, Oh, there you go. Yeah,
and a blacksmith made it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Lisa, I'm going to paraphrase one of your Connecticut neighbors,
and I don't think Stacey would care. But Stacy comes
Stall from Dunes and Duchess, who we all know. She
said something to me many years ago about this exact topic,
which I when you were talking about lighting, it made
so much sense to me. She too was committed to
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finding all of the parts and pieces for their lighting
fixtures that they manufacture locally, because she said, if there's
a problem, I want somebody who's two hours away. I
don't want somebody who's twenty four hours away on a
plane if you're lucky, and I want somebody who I
can call and worst case scenario, get in my car
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and go pick it up myself. And you know she
can do that, because she said that they too were
very committed to having all of the bits and pieces
super super localized. And I thought that was really interesting
and she and again I don't think she would mind
that I shared the story. She said, when we go
to Europe and we when we take trips abroad, we
want a vacation.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We don't want to work.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
And I thought that was so poignant and effective and
impactful because I think that's what's happened to so many
people when they go to Europe, when they travel to
these interesting places all around the world. It's because they're
getting a parts and bits and pieces and parts and
mechanisms and from elsewhere. And you know what a better
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way if you're going to travel elsewhere to just do
it as a vacation and it's a learning experience and
not because you're manufacturing something that needs what they have
to offer.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Stacy is Adell. I love Stacy, I just adore her.
And like Dunes and Duchess Hubberton Forge has only I
believe two or three glass globes that have to be imported.
Simon and Pierce does their glass. They have another one
out of New Hampshire. Their leather for their light fixtures
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comes out of New Hampshire. Their LEDs are coming right
across the line. It's like right there. They're getting them
in New Hampshire also, so they definitely are keeping it tight.
It also reduces their carbon footprint. When Stacy needs something,
she's not hopping on a plane like you said, or
driving four hours. She makes a quick phone called boom,
it's there, right, And that's the beauty of keeping it local.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Let's talk about the consumer word of the year thus
far in twenty twenty five and that is the.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
T word sounds like tariffs.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Everybody has been talking about it, talking about them for
the last several months now. And regardless of how these
tariffs land, if they're lifted, if we move forward.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
With them, whatever that looks like.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
What do you think the conversation is with Americans right now?
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Let's say it's not a problem in a.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Year, how do you think that will change consumerism? Or
do you think it will? What do you see three
years from now? Do you think that this has ignited
the whole conversation and again that mindset switch about needing
to purchase more from this country.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
So it's interesting. I think that we've started a really
great conversation. But I think there's also something that's been
happening that even before the tariffs came to be, and
that was the shift into the trades, the shift into artisans,
and not every kid graduates from high school and runs
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off to college. College is important. I am not by
any means saying college isn't important, but college isn't for everybody,
and we need to remember that there are wonderful craftsmen
out there, wonderful tradesmen and women out there that are
starting to there's a resurgence of that. Not only trade
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schools are getting more and more kids and adults applying.
There's been this idea that we couldn't manufacture here because
we didn't have the people that wanted to do the jobs.
I've big to differ. There's a lot of people here
that want to do the jobs. There's a lot of
people that take pride in what they do every single day.
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There are carpenters, there are furniture builders, there's blacksmiths. There's
Brian with its tractor in the middle of a field
getting the cotton. You know, people do want to do that.
I think we've pushed so many of our young people
into college that we lost some of that hands on
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trade work. And it doesn't mean that if you go
into the trades you're not going to make a good living.
My own son is twenty seven years old. He went
to a trade school. He went and he worked in
the field. Today he works for Pratt and Whitney on
the facility side. He's not building the aircraft engines, but
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he's making a heck of a living. And I think
we need to shift our mindset into supporting our youth
in a different track. If they want it. From college
into the trades. It's a wonderful thing to build something
with your own hands, to look at something and say
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I did that.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I think that people feel smart and they feel good
when they get their hands dirty and do something for themselves.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
And you know, I think what came out.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Of the pan as you saw all sorts of people
with big, corporate, fancy jobs saying I don't want to
do this anymore. I want to paint and I want
to craft something, and I want chickens in my backyard.
So there's certainly a movement toward that. Not that we
still need We still need.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Doctors, of course.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Of course, of course.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
We still need people to go into the medical industry.
But I do think that there's this yearning where everybody
wants to get their hands a little dirty. And I
think for decades that just wasn't something that you know,
it was so I mean, I hate to say this,
but it was somewhat of a status thing, and you know,
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people didn't want to get their hands dirty because they
thought about what that meant or what that symbolized, or
in their minds, that symbolized something negative or that they
hadn't achieved.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And so I love that right now at this moment
in time.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And by the way, it's such an exciting time to
be a live and watch all of this shifting going on.
But it really is interesting. I think how we are
speaking to ourselves more and what's human nature? And I
think it is human nature to make things beautiful. That's
why the pyramids exist, right if you go all the
(38:17):
way back to absolute those very wise Egyptians and the
maxie that they had. But you know, I think it's
so much of its human nature and maybe we, you know,
put a choke hold on what human nature is for
so long and now it's sort of coming out of
our pores in a really great way. So that leads
(38:39):
us to the next point, which is super exciting. We
are recording this episode one week before the fourth of July,
and what makes it more exciting this year is we
are also about to embark as an entire country on
this nation's two hundred and fifty a year, which is
a milestone that all of us us will only have
(39:01):
once in our lifetime. It's such an exciting time to
look forward to. So what excites you about this because
as somebody who is so committed to the American spirit
and building literally building what this country has to offer
from the manufacturing side.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
What excites you about this time?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I think that the American story is some of the
most beautiful stories that have ever been written. When you
look at how we started, how this country came to be,
the innovation, everything we've done in the last two hundred
and fifty years, we've been the leader almost always right,
and I think to myself, this country is so great.
(39:44):
It is drip with knowledge and great people. On this
two hundred and fifty birthday, I can't wait to see
what's about to happen. You're absolutely right. It's exciting. It's
not scary, it's not overwhelming. It is exciting, and we
need to wrap our arms around it and say, show
(40:06):
me what you got, Show me what you got, because
there's generations behind us that need to experience what we experienced.
My grandmother died when she was one hundred years old,
one hundred. I think back, I mean, she's been going
a few years now, but when I think back at
what she saw in her lifetime, she was riding in
a horse and carriage and I remember I picked her
(40:29):
up in a fancy sports card. She's like she's she
saw the computers. You know. It's just that's what we
need to focus on. That we are our great country.
God bless America and God bless all the people that
create this wonderful, wonderful country. Because there's some great stuff happening.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Well, thank you for you know, encapsulating that so beautifully.
And it's going to be an exciting year. I think
as we start this next you know, on the fourth
of July, and an entire year of celebri it'll be
really fun. So, Lisa, thank you so much for being
with us today. We like to end every episode by
asking our guests the same.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Question, and that is what does your perfect boulevard look like?
Speaker 4 (41:14):
So this is going to come as a huge surprise
to you, but in my perfect boulevard, each house and
business has an American flag flying from its porch or
from a flagpole. It's a boulevard or a road that
has mixed use where people can work and live close
(41:36):
together without having work take over their home life. Work
doesn't go into your home life. The road is a
specific architecture. It allows each person and company and building
to have its own personality. It is also a road
that has wide sidewalks with plenty of places to sit
(42:00):
for at film because in that community, people walk and
they talk, They hang out. They talk about life, They
talk about the rose gardens, they talk about the baseball
game the night before, they talk about things that are
difficult without judgment.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's your perfect boulevard, that's my perfect bulevard. Well we
love it.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
And Lisa, we think you are the bell of the
Maiden America Ball.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
You are not just a supporting lady. You are the
bell of the ball.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
So thank you for your time. This has been such
an inspiring conversation. And again this will air a couple
of days before the fourth of July, so happy fourth
of July. We wish you lots of watermelon, some warm weather,
and some downtime to watch reruns of Little House on
the Prairie.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
I will be doing all of that, and I wish
the same for both of you. Thank you so much
for this opportunity. I love talking with you guys.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Thank you for listening to this week's episode of Boulevard Beat.
If you enjoyed this episode of please follow along and
leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you
listen so you never miss an episode, and of course,
follow your hosts on Instagram at Megan bloom Interiors, at CHRISA. Rossbund,
and at Liz Legit. We'll be back next week as
we take a stroll down another boulevard
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