Olivia James - The Journey To The Secret Space Program

Olivia was born into the programs by a family of drug traffickers where she was trauma trained in programs like MK ultra where her mind was split to create alters used for missions on earth and in space. She was used for espionage, occult, beta, and corporate programs. Olivia’s main focus is finding her memories, using them to heal her alters, and hoping that her memories can assist others.

Read Olivia's Book Series "Grey Mouse": 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boundleish Authenticity Podcast. Thanks for tuning in to the Boundless
Authenticity Podcast. Today, we are going to talk a little
bit about secret space stuff because that's one of the
things that you guys have requested to hear more about,
and quite frankly, I'm very tickled by this topic as well.

(00:22):
So I'm joined by Olivia James, who was born into
the programs by a family of drug traffickers. Olivia was
trauma trained in programs like MK Ultra, where her mind
was split to create alters to use for missions on
Earth and in space. She was used for espionage, cult beta,

(00:43):
and corporate programs. Olivia's main focus is finding her memories,
using them to heal her alters, and hoping that her
memories can assist others. So, Olivia, how's it going good?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Thank you for having me. I'm glad to have you on.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I have not had anyone really talk talk too much
about this topic before, but I know that you have
a vast wealth of information on this topic that is
going to probably hurt a lot of heads.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
So I'll just let you take it away here. It
will okay?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, how.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Did I start?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
How'd you figure that this was going on? In the
first place.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I figured it out because of a job. Actually, actually
I had gotten a new job, and the job is
what triggered everything in me because it was similar to
a job I had done in the programs. And I
didn't realize it, but I was getting triggers every day
and extreme anxiety. I couldn't work, you know, and I

(01:44):
didn't know something was wrong, but something was pushing me
to figure out what was wrong. I was getting like
these huge amounts of information and memories and I had
no idea what it meant. And that's how I discovered
just from getting conscious recalling. I decided to start with
noosis hypnotic aggression to see what I could find, and
it kind of blew everything open. It kind of blew

(02:06):
my mind open to where I could get a lot
of information and kind of activated or reactivated or helped
me rediscover some of the things I could do, some
of the abilities I have that I wasn't fully aware
that I had. I mean, I had a paranormal life,
you know, the whole time I've been alive, but I
just didn't know where it came from. And now that
I do, it's given me lots of freedom in order

(02:30):
to expand on all these memories and help other people, hopefully.
I do want to do a disclaimer that anything I
say is based on my own personal experiences and my
own personal perspective, soak right to believe what they want
to believe. Everyone has their own belief and belief systems,
their own experiences, and this is my truth. And that's

(02:51):
why I express it the way I do. It's because
it's directly from me, and nobody has to agree or disagree.
It's totally your choice.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I want to point out as well that if someone
is having a hard time listening to what you're saying,
listen anyway, because that points out somewhere inside of you
that maybe you need to ask some questions or figure
out for yourself why it is that you don't believe
that people have their own, unique, individual experiences. And I'll
tell you what You're not going to get anywhere in

(03:22):
life if you don't start trying to understand other people differences. Yea,
and bring you closer together and they can sure as
he'll make you smarter.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And I totally agree.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh go ahead, sure, yeah, I was I was going
to ask if you mind me asking you what job
it is you were doing, just so that we have
some context.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I was doing something similar to a human resources type employment,
working with people things like that. It was like a
human resource office work, which that'll tie in. I'll start,
let me start the story so I could tie that
in because it's like what okay, so I always start off.
I'm just going all the way back to saying that
I had interesting parents. My father, he was from a

(04:04):
small town and he was recruited very young for military intelligence,
the ASA Army Security Agency when he was about eighteen
years old and he got recruited for intelligence, so he
was on the German and Russian border doing code breaking.
He learned German very fast, so he was doing that
kind of work at a very young age. When he

(04:24):
came out of the military, he kind of was kind
of floundering, not knowing which way to go, and he
ended up getting involved with some we call them now cartels,
but back in the sixties they didn't have that word yet.
They it was kind of almost like a crime syndicate,
is what they would you describe it as. So he
started working with a lot of different, you know, different
nefarious characters, getting involved into what he became like a

(04:47):
really major drug trafficker in the sixties and seventies, and
he was bringing large amounts of heroin across the border
by bus.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
By car.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
He was a pilot too, you know, how to flyplane,
but a lot of it. And the busting part was
my mom actually helped him do that part. She was
helping him embezzle the money that they were making. So
they were making quite a bit of money at very
young age. I'm talking these are like nineteen twenty years old,
you know, doing this type of work, and I was
just a baby, and so they were breaking in all

(05:17):
this money and imagine you know that kind of money
and you know, almost like just people out of their teens,
you know, doing I mean, I know there were different
times then, but it's still kind of hard to believe sometimes.
But they were doing really well, and my father got
addicted to his own product. And if anybody knows anything
about the if you've done any research, does a lot

(05:37):
of research out there about the drug trade in the
sixties and seven, they see there is a lot of
information about how certain three letter agencies were involved with that,
and the same thing with him. He was involved with
them because he was in military intelligence, and he came
out and started working like as a middleman kind of
between the groups. But what was the problem problem was

(06:00):
is they can't you know, the behaviors that he was
exhibiting when he was addicted, was missing drops, missing meetings,
you know, not doing the same work that he was
doing before.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
They can't have that.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
You know, that's that's a huge risk of huge liability
to their whole you know, process, their program, everything that
they were doing. So they tried to scare them and
to scare them straight almost and it didn't you know,
obviously it didn't work. They rated him once just to
let them know, hey, you need a straighten up. This
isn't you can't do this. You know this you got
to straighten up. And it didn't work. And then so

(06:33):
they ended up doing a big, huge raid, you know,
the second time. They ended up you know, break crashing
through the fence, beating them up, and you know, he
ended up getting arrested, and he was looking at life
in prison, really was.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And there was a big, huge public trial.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I remember, you know, seeing like pieces of some old
news clippings where they were like artists renditions of him,
like in the courtroom and things like that. So he
went through this big, huge public trial. He had a
big fancy lawyer every thing, and he was going to
go to prison. And at the end of the trial,
they literally just dropped everything and said, never mind, we

(07:07):
have the wrong person. That's all they said. And then
they gave him a local government job. So they gave
somebody that was a known drug trafficker, heroin addict, they
gave him a local government job and just dropped all
the charges against him. So what I found out, and
you know, in my different ways, you know, with recall,

(07:27):
with remote viewing, with hypnotic regression, I was able to
find out through my own father who's dead now, that
the reason why he was able to get out of
his situation so easily is because he signed me over.
They wanted something in return to give him his life
back and not have to go to prison for life,

(07:47):
and he signed them and let them have me. Even
as a little kid, I was already signed over to them,
so that meant they could use me for whatever they wanted.
And I always you know, it was his cowardice that
created this life for me. You know, the life of
trauma as a child was because of his cowardice, and
he was afraid to go to prison, or maybe he
felt like he sacrificed a lot, you know, sacrifice one

(08:08):
to save the rest. Who knows, you know. Kind of
what I'm thinking, though, is from what he tells me
to as you know, in his spirit form, he said
it was when he was on this earth, he just
was different from what he is now because he had
he had a different role to play, and he didn't
really care about other people the way you know, maybe
we had wanted him to, and me and him never

(08:30):
were able to find common ground when he was alive.
It just he always we always felt separate. You know,
I couldn't get that connection with him. You know, he
didn't really want to be around me and talk to
me that much. And you know, in my sessions, I'm
asking him, you know, why why did you do that?
He'd be said, because looking at me, he felt disgusted,
he said, it was disgusted by looking at me and
what he you know, what they had created, you know,

(08:51):
in those in kultra. You know, I was a disgusting
thing for him to look at. He thought it was
gross what they were doing to me. So in my mind,
you know, he knew kind of a little that it
wasn't Whatever they were doing to me was hurting me,
but he didn't. He couldn't stop it, and he kind
of felt like, I don't know if it was a
little bit of guilt, but he really didn't show a

(09:11):
lot of guilt, mainly just that he didn't want to
be around somebody like that, you know. So that's why
we couldn't. We never really found that common ground. But actually,
now that he's dead, we actually have a better relationship
when I you know, when I see him doing my
sessions or talk to him, he's almost like a spirit
guide now when he always comes to protect me and
help me and you know, give me some guidance, which
I really appreciate. We have an entirely different relationship now.

(09:33):
So that's kind of how I got signed over. So
in order to get into MK Ultra. Actually this happened.
I want to say it was around six or seven,
and it's very fuzzy and so and I always wanted
to say, you know, it's very difficult to create a
linear timeline when there's so many missing so many missing pieces,
so much different technology for memory suppression. I don't want

(09:57):
anybody to drive themselves crazy trying to find a linear timeline.
It's not always possible. It's just not you know, if
somebody can find a linear timeline, I think that's amazing,
but it's not possible for everyone. I personally don't have
a linear timeline for my experiences. So and I still
would advise people if you're looking at trying to get
your memories, don't, you know, don't focus too much on

(10:17):
the linear timeline if if you can't get it, because
that'll that'll keep you, that'll hold you back for a
long time if you can't get it. But when I
was about six or seven, I was taken to and
I remember the only thing I remember is being taken
in a black van with people. I didn't cry or
did but even at that age, I didn't cry a lot,
I didn't talk a lot. I wasn't very.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Vocal, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
I had a kind of a different, really shy, quiet
kind of kid. And they took me to a psychiatric
hospital on the East coast. And this hospital is it's
no longer open anymore. So sometimes I look at pictures
of it and online, you know, just because it's so
weird to see it, like physically and so when I
got there, there was a woman there. And it's really

(11:01):
interesting that the programmer where I was at was a
woman and she had two assistants. They were what we
would pack in those days called orderlies or something like that.
We would call them that. They're two males. And it
was a woman, and she had white hair, and she
kept her hair pinned up, you know, like in the
seventies style. She always wore these really nice flowy pants suits.

(11:22):
And you know, growing up the way I did with
my parents, you know, as you know, very after he
my parents lost everything. They were very poor, and we
just kind of grew up very I always wanted to
just stand weird. I don't know how else to explain it.
So I wasn't around the type of person that she was.
I was never around those types of people, you know,

(11:42):
So to me, she looked very otherworldly. You know, I
kind of looked at her like, I don't know, almost ethereal,
Like she had this look. But it was really strange
to see because she was the one that's ordinating all
of the trauma, all of the you know, the training
for monarch and things like that, and we had this
special space. It was only me and another boy and
his name was Jacob. So it was a very small

(12:04):
kind of like experimental program from what I can gather,
and she had, you know, certain baseline things that she
wanted to attempt, and one of them was called singlepated dissociation.
She wanted us to be able to, you know, feel
that trauma. At the same time, they thought there was
some type of power in being able to dissociate together,

(12:25):
like if you can reach a certain state. They felt
there were some kind of energetic you know, anomaly that
could be created from that. You know. So what they
would do is do this systematic, almost systematic type torture.
So it was almost like a kid's program where they
would it's almost like that basic behavior modification where you

(12:46):
can hear a bell, because we would expect, you know,
the agenda of the day to change every fifteen to
twenty minutes. It's expected that, you know, there'd be some
certain type of trauma of physical abuse. Then they would
be nice to you first, or chain you to a
different activity, maybe LSD implementation, they would do an electric
shock therapy, you know, than sexual abuse. They would change

(13:09):
it with that a lot of psychological and emotional abuse
which is very harmful because you know, these people would
you know, physically abuse you and then they would treat
you like maybe give you an ice cream or something.
But then they were also giving us, you know, food
filled with filth and things like that, forcing us to
try to eat that. And they wanted this. They wanted

(13:32):
to break us down. They wanted to break our minds
so much that it would just be empty and then
they could rebuild it into what they wanted. And I
think that, you know, they diagnose a lot of us,
you know, survivors that went through MK Ultra, they say
we have dissociative identity sorter. It's extremely way more complex
than that. There's so much more involved than just one

(13:53):
diagnosis saying that you have these different personalities alters. It's
way more complex than they can even imagine. I've looked
inside the mind. I've looked inside my own mind and
saw there's worlds in there. There was worlds created by
these altars on their own. It's very intense to see that.
But they were creating, like I said, they were creating
all these different altars by breaking down the mine. And

(14:16):
they will build these pieces back up and try to
like program them and a lot of it. And there
was one other thing that they were doing that was
really intense is the hypnosis. She had used hypnosis on
both me and Jacob in her office. We're doing our
sessions with her, and she was able to find things
about us that were used for the programs in terms

(14:37):
of like past lives and things like that. And that's
how they saw that me and Jacob were special, is
by looking at some of these past lives, not in
the terms of special, more special than other people, special
in the fact that they could use us. So that's
the special They wanted to be able to use us
for their own agendas. So I was going to talk

(14:58):
about a little bit about those past lies on why
they were so important, and that's this because this is
why they thought they could use me for certain things.
That's why I think these past lives are so important
for them to see.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I feel like you should go ahead and do that
because I'm a hypnotherapist in case you didn't know that.
So when you go through people's past lives, that's how
a lot of this stuff gets triggered and they begin
to describe things that don't sound like they're from any
human timeline. And then you get into this kind of stuff.
So I'll let you go into it because that's incredibly

(15:32):
relevant how you got there.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yes, and I just want to I've used a lot
of different hypno therapists, so and I've heard all the suggestions.
I've heard all the statements of people saying that, well,
you probably were with some hypno therapists that guided you. No,
that's not the case. All my sessions were recorded, and
I used about six different people. You know, people think

(15:54):
that you can't, I can't do this every time with
someone different. Yes, I can, and I did, and I
proved it by you know, recording everything and all the
information I have. The first time I went under hypnosis,
I had no idea I could even do this. I
was under per almost six hours, constantly, just constant flow
of information because it needed to happen, and my body
and my mind knew that it needed to happen. And

(16:16):
that's how it came through, flowing like almost like a
just you know, when you burst a damn and then
it just all comes out. And that's what happened to me.
So it gives to me. I feel like it gives
even the people completing the hypnotherapy. It gives them validation
and validity in my eyes, you know, of what they

(16:36):
can do because I was able to reproduce that you
know experience every single time was something different, somebody different.
It didn't matter who it was. I was able to
do it each time. So some of the lives that
got these people, these groups interested in me in the
first place is one of the lives. It was the
fourteen hundreds and I was a widow and I had

(16:58):
two children. My husband had died, so I'm kind of
out there by myself, and I was making it. I was,
you know, doing a lot of different things. You know,
back in those days it was a lot different. So
you know, it was mainly you know, making sure the
kids had food and figuring out how to do that,
you know, living on my own, and I had what
I would I guess I would be what people would
describe as a medium in those days. And so I

(17:20):
was getting extra food by helping some of the villagers out,
you know, being able to speak with some of their
loved ones who had passed over. I felt like I
was really helping people. I felt great about what I
was doing. I didn't think I was doing anything wrong,
and they would come and they would bring me vegetables
and you know, things to eat. That's how we would
barter for the service. So it was working out for
me pretty well. And so the inquisition they came through

(17:43):
that town and they came straight somebody told you know,
about what I was doing, and it came straight to me,
and they came to my house and punched me in
the face, you know, beat me up, dragged me to
a wagon where they took me to a dungeon and
they tortured me there. They did everything they could to
try to make me admit that I was, you know,

(18:04):
conspiring with the devil or demons or whatever they were saying,
and I wouldn't and because it wasn't true. No, I
didn't even know what they're talking about. I was like,
that's not how I lived my life. You know, whatever
I could do, it was just something that was born
in me. I didn't you know, acquire it. It was
born within me. It was born with me, my ability.
And they tried everything they could do and I just

(18:26):
didn't crack. And I remember being tied up to a
ceiling by my arms. So I was hanging from the
ceiling of the dungeon by my arms, and you know,
a lot of it was, you know, the different torches.
I wasn't burned at the stake or anything like that.
I actually died in that life from dehydration and dehydration
and starvation because I wasn't eating or drinking anything. They

(18:48):
were just doing that. And I remember my uncle who
had my boys now, he brought them once just to
see me before I died, and I hated that he
did that because there was like a little window in
the dungeon where they could look down and see me,
and they peeked through and I must have looked horrible,
hanging from a ceiling, like naked and dirty and like,
you know, just just I don't know. I can't even

(19:09):
imagine what kind of nightmares they had after that. But
I ended up dying, and I was so angry. I
was so angry at men in that life because I
felt like, you know, they did this to us, and
they did it to a lot of people in the village,
and that kind of anger stayed with me. It was
in me, and they felt the programs felt like we
can use this, we can this is something that they
could use. That anger that was the left inside at

(19:32):
these men for what they did to me. So that
was one of the luws that they wanted to use,
and especially since I had a medium mediumistic abilities in
that life as well. There was one other life and
this one's a little controversial, but I still think it's
important and it was important for me to see myself
as something other than what I am now. And I
consider myself, you know, I feel like I work hard,

(19:53):
I try to help people. But in that life I
was something what people would consider like a victimizer or
a serial killer. And it was in the eighteen hundreds
and I was a male and I had grown up
by myself, you know, my parents had died very young,
and I was a street kid. I grew up on
the streets, like traveling everywhere. I traveled all over the country,

(20:14):
and I ended up meeting another person like I had
like a friend that he was like me. You know,
we we both wanted to hurt people, and we kind
of traveled together and did that and we would harm women.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
We would have.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
And you know, leave them wherever we found them. And
we were doing that so much. We were and we
would we weren't being caught because we were traveling so much.
We would do that in the village and then go
to the next village. And we went and went and
did that for a really long time, and we got careless.
We went to a new village and we had assaulted
a woman, you know, right and left her out in
the field. You know, in those days, it was it

(20:50):
seemed like it had been easier for us to you know,
complete this you know, evil thing. And we ended up
going to a local pub and we were kind of
like drinking with some of the villagers, and somebody found
her and they automatically knew it was us, because there
was no one else knew in the village. It was us,
they knew, and we ran.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
We ran it.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
We thought we could get away. We ended up finding
like an abandoned barn and we were hiding in there,
and they knew we were in there, and instead of
letting us out to you know, beat us up, they
locked it and set it on fire. And I remember
in that life just trying to crawl up, you know,
crawl up the walls and get up into the rafters,
you know, to get away from the heat. And we
ended up dying like that, rightfully, So for what the

(21:30):
crimes we were committing you know, we needed to be
you know, over in that life. So that was another
life where they saw that they could use that, you know,
not just against me, but for other missions against other people.
They knew that they could use that, you know, of
who I had been before. So that was and there

(21:50):
was also another life, and this one was really interesting.
I thought this was coming from my very first session
I ever did, and I saw myself and it was
almost it looked like could have been something like ancient Egypt,
something like that. And I was a mail done too,
and there was thousands of us just walking, all of
us people just walking and walking, and none of us

(22:12):
really made eye contact. We didn't talk to each other,
nothing like that. We were all walking around like what
I would consider like automatons or like robotically just kept going.
And if I looked very far in the distance, if
I had looked at one of the pyramids, there was
a being standing on top of the pyramid, and it
looked like a giant dog. And we called them the
dog people. We had a myth in our village that

(22:35):
said that the dog people came down and killed our god,
and that our god had been a crocodile, and we
said that the dog people came down and killed him,
and they had taken control and they were pushing us
to do all this. And let me tell you, these
beings were so strong in whatever technology and whatever abilities
they had. It only took one of them to command

(22:57):
thousands to continue walking and working. And they would make
us work until we died. So you would just keep
walking and moving sand. And they were building something called
flash portals, and they wanted it done quickly, so they
had us moving constantly, constantly moving and building in moving
sand until you just died. And most of us would
just die wherever we fell down. And I actually just

(23:18):
lay down on the steps and died, and that's where
that's where the last I sat. What I thought was
interesting is when I was trying to scan the body
of this dog person, I saw that in the inside
of it, right around the solar plexus area, there was
like this huge glob of black worms that was actually
the dog person was a host for this kind of

(23:41):
like I don't know, some type of extraterrestrial type sentient thing.
I don't even know what it was, but I remember
seeing it. So I thought it was interesting that this
dog person was commanding us, and he thought he was
in control, but something was in control of him, and
he was very forward and aggressive with me like he could.
Which is interesting that when you're under hypnosis or if

(24:03):
you're in the deepest trance, you can go which I was.
That the time dropped away. There was no time I
was there. I could interact with this thing and it
almost like it stepped through a portal almost and spoke
to me, and the only thing it said was get
back to work. You know, this interdimensional type being stepped
through and instead of giving some really cool greeting like

(24:26):
you would expect, it said to get back to work
and showed me its staff and said get back to work.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And that was it.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
So I remember being in that life that as a slave,
I knew. My lesson kind of was that I knew
what it was to be completely controlled, and in the
eyes of these programmers, that was perfect for them to
see that I could be someone that could be completely
controlled based on that life that they knew that they
could go down that road with me. And the other

(24:52):
life that I thought was really important that they thought
was important too is that. And when I'm looking at myself,
I can't really see myself because I'm kind of like invisible.
I'm like a red energy. And this was in ancient times,
and I remember I was following somebody in a desert.
You know, they can't see me, but I can see them,
and I'm like, you know, playing around games with them,

(25:14):
you know, walking up behind them, trying to whisper at them,
and you know, almost like teasing him. I almost felt
like it was so fun to do this, you know.
And this person was terrified. He was out looking for
one of the flock, his flock. One of the sheep
had gotten away from it and he was trying to
find it before I got too dark. And he was
terrified that I was following him in the desert and
he could hear me. He knew there was something wrong,

(25:35):
and he was like terrified, and I thought it was funny.
I thought it was so fun because that's kind of
the life I lived. And back in those days, I
would be considered what people would call it dark gin.
So some people say dark entity. Some people have all
these different ideas of what they think that those people were.
All I know is that we were a race of
beings and that we have like we had our own lives.

(25:58):
We had our own hierarchy in terms of like, you know,
who was on top, who was you know, you know,
we have like we have a respect thing. You have
supposed to show respect to your elders and things like that.
So I guess we would consider And this is what
the Gin says. I'm not saying that I believe this.
Her name was Harlewin. I was named Harleowin. Then she
says she was something of a trickster god. So she says,

(26:22):
that's what the Gin were, tricksters. So I necessarily don't
call myself that, but she does. So she was doing
that was her whole life, and she didn't know she
was evil. She even said that. She's like, I didn't
know I was evil then because I chose this role
and I came down here to help people. And we
kind of asked her, who do you think you're helping

(26:42):
by doing evil things and you know, and she said,
they wanted an experience of darkness and I brought it
to them. She said, that was the role I chose,
is to bring that to these people. And they called me,
and she really does think that they call her, and
they did almost in a way.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Some of them did. Some of it was the.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Harlew and the Gin. She would start that process of
oppression though, and you know, trying to tear them down
little by little, scaring them and you know, doing things
and you know, just to oppress them enough to where
they would eventually just let her take over. And it
happened a lot. They would the person would just give
up and just say go ahead, and you know, they

(27:21):
let her in and she would take over. And once
she would take over, she would you know, do her
process of trying to destroy their lives. However she can
either make them hurt themselves other people, just totally obliterate
their lives. And that was the role she plays. That
was the role she chose in that time period. And
then she went on to do something else, just like

(27:42):
I'm here now. We went on to do something else.
And I can't really apologize for it because I can't
eliminate any of the past lives. I just that's If
anybody knows how to do that, you can tell me.
But I don't feel bad for that. It's not me now.
You know, all these things are part of me still,
and that's why I know about it, and it's to

(28:02):
me it stays at the cellular level. From what I've
learned through hypnosis is that a lot of these lives
and these abilities stay at the cellular level, sometimes even
in the spine. What I've learned some of it is
resting in the spine. It's so interesting to even see that.
And I also learned that a lot of psychabilities come
from the stomach. We wouldn't expect that because, you know,

(28:23):
we think a lot of it is built in the mind.
I had no idea that a lot of some of
the abilities that I have were initiate in the stomach,
So that was really interesting. So those were some of
the lives that were very important to those secret groups
that were trying to get control. There's a lot of

(28:44):
warring factions and that's what they're trying to do. So
they thought they could use us for different programs. And
I've found a lot of different past lives that I've
wrote about in my books and things like that that
I thought were interesting. But I think those were the
most important that they wanted to use. They knew they
could use me being what used to be a dark
entity that was important to them. They had all these

(29:06):
groups that they could use me for so the programmer,
who I call missus w the woman with the white hair,
she ended up sending me out. She'd almost like a
referral program and what I call special sector. I was
from a special sector and that says that in my
file that I'm from special sector. So she sent me
out to another person to be evaluated. And when I

(29:29):
got to this man's office, I was there and he
was there with two other people, and it was they
were sitting on a little couch and it didn't look
like a hospital. It looked more like a psychiatrist's office
that they had like really neutral looking furniture things like that.
And I was just sitting there and there was this
couple there and they looked like they may have been twins.
They were very light skinned, maybe had albino condition. I'm

(29:51):
not quite sure. But the man when I saw him,
his name was doctor Green, and he was very elderly,
maybe like in his nineties, I couldn't even tell, very
frail at that time, had like he was wearing little
glasses and very much losing almost all of his hair.
He was very skinny at that time. And I'm not
quite sure, but a lot of people say that doctor
Green is another name for Mangola. I'm not quite sure

(30:13):
if that's real or not, because I only know him
as doctor Green, and I do remember what he looks like,
and it was very old at that time. But he
instructed this these two people to do an exam on me.
And they were doing kind of this weird thing where
they asked me, you know, they were looking in my
eyes and my ears, you know, in my you know,
different places, and then they told me to open my

(30:34):
mouth and say ah, and they both looked inside my mouth,
down in my trying to look in my throat. And
then they told Doctor Green they said yes, I said,
They said, we found it. We can see the thing
inside her. And so they took me into this program
called Project Traveler and and it's tied to the occult.
It's in a cult program that they wanted to experiment with.

(30:56):
They were trying to make some of these I don't know,
like paranormal, most supernatural and occult ideologies, or they wanted
to make it measurable. They wanted to see if it
had real energy output things like that. So that's when
doctor Green started to you know, use me for a
Project Traveler. So they were wrong though, because they thought

(31:17):
I was possessed. They thought that I had an attachment,
and they were looking for other possessed people to see
if they could kind of like harness that energy and
that power, because they thought there was power behind the
dark side and they wanted to see what they could
utilize it for. So when I got back to the
psychiatric hospital, they did some experiments and they saw that

(31:38):
I could go into these deep trances and let you know,
different things take over my body. Since they thought I
was already possessed. The reason they were wrong is because
I wasn't possessed. It was just what I was. They
saw Harlow and that gin part of me, you know,
they thought that they could take it out.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
They can't.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
It was just who I will, in my in my being.
I was just that thing. So they had one episode
where they were doing like I don't know. They had
me in this room and they were trying to do
sensory deprivation and they didn't use water or anything. They
just sat me in a chair in a dark room
and they put blindfold over my eyes and then they
hooked me up to an ivy and that went on

(32:15):
for days, and they gave me no food, no water,
you know, the just the ivy, no you know, contact.
They didn't speak to me anything. They just had me
let things you know, build up inside me, and I
let that open up. And that's when I first learned
I could do that. It's called spirit hosting. And actually
it was a darker entity that told me that's what

(32:35):
I was. They said, you're a spirit host and it's
being able to open yourself up and letting this excuse me,
letting this thing take over you your fully body, mind
and spirit. I go into like a very relaxed kind
of place and I don't get harmed by it physically, psychologically,

(32:56):
or emotionally. And that's why it's an ability, because it
can come, it can go, and I don't get harms
by it in any way, which for them, it really
is an ability because most people can't, you know, have
a demon speak through them and have be normal after that.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
I can.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
So they were using that and they were measuring things
like they would have me let something possess me and
then they would make a measurement of it. They would
do body systems checks like you know, blood pressure and
you know, something similar to what they would do in
the hospital. To check your levels and things like that,
just to see if there was any type of energetic
output at all. They were trying to make measurements, so

(33:32):
that I thought that was really interesting that they did
that for a long time. And I was really conflicted
because they weren't giving me any food or anything. You know,
they were pretty much torturing me, and you know, my
whole life. You know, even now people are saying, you know,
you can't trust you know, demons and entities, but the

(33:53):
humans were torturing me constantly, and it was the demonic
entities flowing in and out of my body that kept
me a lot. They're the ones sustaining me while these
other humans were torturing me. So as a child, you
can find that very conflicting, like who are you supposed
to trust? I'm supposed to be afraid and terrified of
this group of you know, beings that no one can see,

(34:14):
But then it's the humans that are physically and emotionally
torturing me. That was really really very conflicting, and I
think it's probably affected, you know, some of the work
I do now that I'm able to open it up
to everything and let everything have a chance to speak
and then make no judgment on that. I just let
it be neutral what it is. And then you know,

(34:35):
I don't want to even make a judgment on what
anything says or does. Is just different for me now.
So we did that for a while, and like I said,
me and Jacob ended it up. They considered us what
they called prize pupils. That means we took to the
abuse very well. We were able to do what they
wanted to them, what they wanted us to do, and

(34:57):
to be able to extreme dissociation. We were able to
do that. We could leave our bodies to escape the pain.
And that was actually the only time that we could
be children is when we were left our bodies because
they wouldn't let us lay together anything normally. It was
always something to do with pain and suffering. So for
us to be able to just dissociate and be able
to have that time, that was what we had as children.

(35:17):
That's it until we left that program, and I mean
other things after that. There was a few things that
happened in terms of like they did, like monarch training.
I really don't talk about it too much. You know,
the sexual part of what they were trying to train
us for and they really couldn't use me a lot
until I got older because they had a specific plan

(35:38):
in mind for what they wanted me to do.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
But they did.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
When I was around thirteen, they had me doing additional
training and the training was for what they wanted me
to be is a personality profile when I got older.
So they had a man chaperon me, and I remember
the man he was. He had like a he was
dressed really nicely in a suit. He had a nice
little on, you know, and he was almost like a chaperone,

(36:03):
and he really didn't talk to me or say anything.
I just knew I had to go with him. I
don't ask questions. That's how I was trained in the
MK Ultra. You know, we're so extreme mind control. You're
trained not to ask questions. You're trying to do exactly
what you're told and always complete missions, you know, things
like that. So he took me on a train and
at the end of the train ride, we didn't we

(36:24):
weren't on Earth anymore. We were actually on the Moon
and to Level four Underground and Level four Underground is
where they were conducting psionics. Psionics training and the class
that I was going to it was more for adults
and the instructor there. She was kind of a younger person.
Everybody looked younger than they were, and I don't know why.
Being on another planet, I'm not quite sure. Everybody always

(36:46):
looked younger than they were, And so she didn't really
want to deal with the kid. That wasn't her role,
but they said she had to take me because I
was from special sector, so there was no turning it down.
So and she was very assertive and you know, kind
of like dominating with me in terms of my tutelage
and what she was trying to teach me. She wasn't
very soft with me, but I can appreciate it now

(37:08):
because I feel like she was trying to keep me
alive based on how, you know, kind of strong she
was with her teachings. And there was other people in
the classroom. There was other adults, and I'm not quite
sure what they can do with their abilities, So there
was some kind of like telepaths, you know, animal communicators,
things like that. I don't know if they were just
experimenting or what with them, but mine was the ability

(37:28):
they wanted me to have was actually going to be
used in different espionage tactics and corporate espionage things like that.
So she worked really hard with me. She taught me
really well, and I always remember this one phrase she
told me because she was trying to keep me alive.
She said, it has to be you have to be
this quick. It has to be one look in one word,

(37:50):
and you have to know what these people are thinking.
You have to know what they're about. She's saying, like,
when I get into some a situation, I have to
know immediately what these people about to keep myself alive.
So she was very serious about that and learning for
me to learn that technique. And once I got done
with the training, I wasn't used to get From what
I can remember, I wasn't really used a lot until

(38:11):
I was about nineteen. Because of my physical appearance. I
looked so much younger than I was. They needed my
you know, kind of like my physical appearance to mature
in a way for what they wanted me to do.
And they wanted me to do a lot of beta
work to start with, and a lot of corporate espionage.
And that's to me, that's the most dangerous stuff, the
corporate espionage. It was so dangerous, it was so scary

(38:33):
the beta work they wanted me to. It's almost kind
of like considered like a black Widow program. They want
you to infiltrate someone's life. You're given a target, which
we call a mark. You infiltrate that person's life, You monitor,
you gather intelligence, and one of my altars actually has
a photographic memory. I don't particularly Olivia doesn't have a

(38:56):
photographic memory, but one of my altar does. So all
I have to do is be around someone in that
part of my mind is constantly recording whatever's going on.
And once you're in a relationship with somebody or a
fake relationship, you're able to gather that information quite quickly
because they began to trust you and they just start
speaking about whatever's going in their lives. And that's what
we would do. We would cord the information and we

(39:18):
were debriefed by hypnosis, so they would have to go
deep in our mind to get that information that was
kind of locked away from these missions. So that was
the beta work that they wanted us to do. If
there were other what we consider what I call outcomes,
I don't want to go into too much debtail, but
you can kind of guess what kind of stuff you
would be an end to some of those relationships. Sometimes

(39:40):
you would just leave the relationship like they told you
to after you gathered the intelligence, or they would expect
some other type of outcome, that's what they called it.
So once I got done doing with that, I ended
up doing that for a while and I got a
promotion and because they said for a job well done.
And I think I was around twenty nine, and I
ended up going to Mars for a short time, about

(40:03):
ten extra years. And when I was there, I was
on the Mercreary Base. A McCreary base is located in
the South Canal region of that planet. And the general
that I worked under, his name was General Asher. I
was specifically taken into the corporate sector, so I wasn't

(40:23):
like in a big military mission. We were on the
military base and I worked near a loading dock, but
I wasn't taking part of those big military operations. I
was the human resources. So any new recruits coming into
the base, they would come see me in my office
and I would use some of my abilities. I kind
of consider it like a mild telepathy. I sometimes we

(40:45):
call it energy reading things like that, but I would
have them talk. I had like a battery of questions.
I would ask them just to get them talking. Is
how I read them. Just as soon as they're talking.
It's almost like reading between the lines of everything they
say in order to get get a proper assessment of
who I think they are and what job I might
think they might do well in. And I didn't really

(41:07):
work with a lot of super soldiers. They were in
special sector. I wasn't necessarily working for a special sector.
I was just working for the basic you know, new
recruits coming in. And back in the days, they back
in the time that I was in mk Ultu and
things like that, they were still utilizing like my lab
like military production to get some of their recruits. And nowadays,

(41:28):
like when I was still on the base, like in
the early two thousands, they were getting voluntary recruits. So
there were people coming straight out of the military telling
you know, their family that they're going overseas or something,
and they were going up to Mars for a small tour,
and they were thinking they were going to be like
starship troopers fighting aliens and things like that, and then
when they got in my office, they found out they'd

(41:49):
be working like, you know, regular jobs like we had
an entertainment division. You know, there was mining, there was resources,
water treatment, waste treatment, all that, and they would probably
get a job doing that. So their dreams of being
in some type of like movie did not come true
on that base, you know, because anybody a super soldier
would be going straight to special sector. If somebody did

(42:10):
come in my office and I felt it using my
abilities that they had some type of special ability themselves,
they would definitely be referred out. I would have to
send that recommendation up to General Asher so he could
figure out, you know, what office they needed to be at.
So I did that for a long time on Mars,
and it was really lonely, like I don't remember. I know,

(42:32):
I remember feeling not well the whole time that I
was there, and there was a lot of isolation. I
was enable to form connections with people, especially working for
the corporate sector. Nobody wanted to be around me. I was,
you know, it's almost like working for the man, So
nobody wanted to interact with me, especially some of the
other soldiers that just didn't have a good you know,

(42:53):
what do you call it reputation. Also part of the
job was to ensure that I made sure. I told
the upper manager if there was anybody that came into
my office that I thought would challenge the status quo,
and they took that very seriously. You're not allowed to
have your own opinion on anything. You have to follow
exactly what they wanted you to, all the rules, everything.

(43:14):
So I felt like I was kind of depressed. If
I'm guessing what was wrong with me on Mars the
whole time I was there is that I felt like
I had depression, and we didn't have a word for depression,
so I didn't know what was wrong with me. And
also I was starting to have like kind of like
bleed through memories of just another life, and I felt

(43:34):
like something was wrong with me. On Mars, I knew
something was wrong with me, and I couldn't figure out
what it was. I was doing things like I wasn't
doing the same job like I should have been like
enable to, you know, do my job correctly. I had
broken into the General's office and was looking through as files.
I didn't even know what I was looking for, but
I had no other ideas of what to do and

(43:56):
how to solve this.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Issue for myself.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
So I was everywhere looking and I end up getting
demoded because I wasn't doing the same job anymore, and
I ended up working, you know, the rest of the
time there. Just I worked on a medical satellite station
for a little bit that's near Saturn, and what they
do on there, they're just doing augments and different type
of surgeries. I was somebody that would come in the
room before they completed a surgery or some type of

(44:20):
medical training something, and I would just you know, almost
like a medical social worker when I have them sign
all the forms, because they take consent very seriously in
those programs. There's people's signatures everywhere. I know that because
I would have people sign things, especially when you leave,
when you're retired, you sign a lot of forms. In
one of the forms you sign you agree to be

(44:40):
controlled and monitored for the rest of your life, no
matter what.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
You know. There's people.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
I have my own signatures on that stuff, and I
know other people have signatures on there. And I'm not
saying that that it's right and that we had full
ability to say that and give consent, because we didn't
because we were almost like modern day slavery. You're not
allowed to say anything back. But they say that those
forms because of the way they're worded in terms of
legal you know, legal language that they'll hold up in

(45:07):
all courts, including galactic courts. That's what they say anyways,
that those forms up there held up in everything in
case anybody tried to take them at court. Well, look,
you signed for this, you said we could do this.
You said you even assigned to be terminated if you
don't complete the task to their whatever they think is
the best. You agreed to that you signed it saying Okay,

(45:28):
I agreed to be terminated, and terminated doesn't mean losing
a job, just you know, that's they mean something else
when they say that. So the legal language is really
important what they're using. So that's what I did up
until I ended up leaving. In terms of retirement and
retirement for us, we just from what I remember, it
was a chemical retirement. And then they re aged. They
read you, they age regress you, and they put you

(45:51):
back in your crappy life. And that's what happened to me.
I got age regressed to the time that they took
me at and I went back to my crappy life.
And that's where that kind of experience came from.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Wow, there's so many questions that I could ask you,
But I feel like we do a second part because
a lot of it is just going to be like and.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
There's so much more. Yeah, there's so much more to
go into. I do have a fun story though. I
was going to add because I was like talking about
it because it was so interesting. When I was on
Myers and like I said, I had no friends. Everybody
hated me, you know, nobody really wanted to be around me.
I wasn't really that girl. And they were doing these
exhibitions because, like I said, they have an entertainment division

(46:40):
because there's nothing else to do. So people would pack it,
you know, some of the civilians and even some of
the soldiers and everybody. They would pack in the arenas
you know, on the weekends or whatever, and they would
be these exhibitions. It's almost like almost like modern Gladiator
or UFC type stuff. So they had a lot of
the girls, like you could. They would have us up
like in dresses, cute little outfits, and they want you

(47:02):
to sword fight to the death. And so I volunteered
once because they said that if you volunteer, you know,
I thought, I volunteered. People will have a different idea
who they think I am. I might get a little
bit of favor with people and people not treating like crap.
So I ended up doing that quite a few times.
And they give you a gift afterward, like a reward
if you win, like either you and some of the

(47:22):
other girls they are asking for like clothes and drewy,
which means nothing means nothing on that planet. Nothing, no
material stuff means anything there. So I asked for food.
I wanted good food, and I asked there's something like
a steak in a potato or something. That was my
gift I wanted. And I remember I lost like three times,
but then I won like two times. And I don't

(47:44):
remember how when I lost, how I ended up alive
and back in my bed the next day. I have
no idea how that happened. I just remember having my
throat slit from some sword and then I'd be okay
the next day, and then my food wo'd be sitting
next to me.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
So I did that.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
I really risk my life for a plate of food
and it was like nothing. It was maybe I didn't
really care that much because of my depression on Mars
that I was just like, well if it happens. It happens,
and you know, I went through life whatever. I thought
that was interesting though, that they have like a girl's
sword fighting to the death. You know, imagine, you know,
you're watching that on the weekend. They're having people's sword

(48:21):
fight to the death. Was really interesting, and there was
so much other stuff going on, like on Mars. What
I thought was interesting is that, you know, in personality profiling,
the people that are at the highest levels for sociopaths
and psychopaths, they're recruiting specifically people that are diagnosed as

(48:43):
sociopaths because they feel like those people make the best leaders,
because they can make the hard decisions, like if there's
a war, they'll probably win the war based on how
they behave. But that's also dangerous for a lot of
us that are working around them. We're literally working amongst
sociopaths and psychopaths every day, like in the office. You know,
people that I worked with their sociopaths and psychopaths, and

(49:05):
you just, you know, you're risking your life sometimes they
sometimes they would try to do things and you know,
and what I thought was interesting is you're not allowed
to fight back. In a couple of different groups, like
when I worked for a mercenary group called Krueger. They're
allowed to harm you. Your coworkers that are males, allowed
to harm you. You can't fight back, you can't complain,

(49:25):
you can't question. Same thing on Mars, I wasn't really
I didn't have that feeling that I could say anything.
And you know, sometimes something would happen and you can't
say anything about it. You just have to let it go.
So definitely a weird imbalance there. And I think it's
really interesting that people think they have an idea about women.
But the things I've seen women do, both good and bad,

(49:49):
in these programs would blow anybody's mind. It would totally
blow blow away what people think that we are. And
they don't have any idea. Nobody has any idea of
what women are capable of in any way because of
the things I've seen that people could do. It's really
it's really crazy to see, you know, even for myself,
you know, being who I am now and what I

(50:11):
used to be able to do, and then now I'm
here and I have to pretend all the time like
I'm a.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Weak little girl.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
You know, it's really weird to even have that life
and try to pretend to be a normal life when
you know you can do you were able to do things,
you know, and it wasn't even a different life, you know.
So it's really strange.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Do you think that that's just.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
How this planet is set up though, to keep women
in a particular, you know, atmosphere where they really can't
do much of anything.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
I think all of the I think the same thing
for men though, you know, they're probably put into a
specific position where you know, we're all kind of locked
into this box in terms of what people over us
and how they want us to behave. And I know
it's not real because I know I've seen people do things.
You know. It's just I just I can't buy into it,
just because I've been able to see it myself firsthand

(51:05):
what people are capable of.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I believe you, because, you know, even just to referencing
some of my own past life experiences, I feel as
though maybe this planet is just set up in a
way that humans in general are extremely limited in their
capacity for a reason, you know.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Yeah, And I get it in a way, like imagine
if I was able to harness the power I had
when I was a gin, and if I could do
that now, you know, I guess they have to kind
of close.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
It off, like you can't have everything.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
You know, what kind of person would I be if
I was able to harness that, you know, and it
was I did want to say, like I thought it
was interesting when I was speaking to Harlewin, she told
me kind of about how, you know, because we think
that the demonic entities they are able to just come physically,
and you know, I don't see a lot of them
coming physically ever, because it's very difficult to create that

(51:59):
physical form. And also they don't like the reaction they
get when they come in their physical form because they
in their minds, these demonic entities think they're gods. They do.
They say they're gods. I'm not saying I believe that
they believe that they think they're gods because they've been
worshiped as gods for thousands of years in ancient since
ancient times, and that if they come here and if

(52:21):
one of their followers calls them, you know, they call
it a heart call. And then when somebody calls them,
because you do have to say, you do have to
let them in in order for them to evade your space.
So when they try to come physically to a follower,
and the follower doesn't have a good response because they're
not looking like some angelic being. They're coming in their
true forms, and that a person sees that and almost

(52:43):
gets They get a disgusted look and scared and fear.
That's not the reaction they want. They feel like they're gods,
so they don't always come as physical. They like to
travel as energy, and specifically we travel by the blood,
so a lot of entities would travel by the bloodstream.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
That's why.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
And I always called myself red energy. That's how I
saw myself, and I would travel by the blood and
get inside the blood stream. So it's different from from
the stuff I've seen. Is kind of different from what
obviously we've seen in movies and things like that, where
you know physical entities. These entities are just coming through physically.
They're traveling less energy and through the blood stream sometimes.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, well, you know, back to that whole idea about
limited abilities. It's kind of like the Superman thing, don't
you think where it's come to this planet. All of
a sudden you have powers because there's a yellow sun,
and then on you know, your own home planet, you're useless. Yeah,
I wonder, I.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Phil I felt that.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
I felt that, Like I think maybe a lot of
women we feel like that if you were in the
programs because you had abilities, and now I'm here and
I have to just be a normal person. It's just
it's really conflicting. For me.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
It's like, really weird. You know. I still get amazed, Yeah,
I can.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
I still get amazed when I, you know, recording myself
doing the things that I'm doing, especially with spirit hosting.
I'm doing astral travel, remote viewing, remote influencing. That's all
difficult stuff that's not very easy stuff for the normal
person to do. And to see myself doing it is
like it always mind blows me every time I'm like
I wake, you know, I come out of the trance

(54:24):
and be like, I can't believe I just said that.
You know, stuff that I'm saying for like hours on end,
a constant flow of information. It's very interesting for me
to see that and be able to reproduce it over
and over the same process us.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I totally get that.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
So how often are you continuing to do sessions and
stuff to uncover what else is in there?

Speaker 4 (54:42):
I think I started I want to say twenty twenty twenty.
Maybe I started doing it in twenty twenty and so
it's about five years now, and now I've kind of
slowed down a little bit. I'll do it because now
it's getting a little bit risky because I've started to
use the ability I started about a year or two
ago to break into, you know, secret documents and bases

(55:06):
and other people's bases and things to try to get
information for the world. It's risky and they've kind of
caught onto that, especially with Project Oblivion coming out. They said,
there's no more of this. You guys can't keep doing
this stuff. So the last time I a couple of
times I had a session, I had a counter remote
viewing team from other agencies kind of infiltrate my session

(55:27):
to see what I'm doing. It's like when you when
I'm closing my eyes, I see it ionomically see a
set of eyes. That means somebody's looking at me while
I'm doing this. So now I'm starting to see that
where they're kind of caught on that I'm kind of
sneaking into places and I'm just I always say, like
I'm just a girl, I'm not a professional.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
You know there.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
You know, there's people out there on YouTube word that
are professional remote viewers and they're got coordinates and stuff.
I don't do that. It's just a natural ability, So
I don't follow that. It just comes to me, like
I always say that, it comes in a woosh because
it does. Whatever I'm connected to at the highest level
of my being starts and guides me to where I
need to go and has allowed me to do this.

(56:08):
You know, I'm not being stopped by anything except for
these new groups are trying to and it's not working.
But I got a feel them they're going to continue.
So I've met a couple of I say met, but
actually they're intruders. So I've met a couple of groups,
and the last couple of sessions I had some that
tried to I think one of them wanted to harm me,

(56:30):
and so I kind of stepped back a little. I'm
only doing it like every few months now.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, I have heard similar things from other people, And
I was wondering if during your hypnosis sessions, if you've
ever hit anything like a government cap or anything like
that where it was extremely difficult to get to a
certain level of information.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Yes, quite a few times to the base in Australia. Hi, yep.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
As soon as I got close to that base, I
saw this huge eye huge. They have very serious monitoring
with their remote viewers. They have a really a strong
remote viewing remote viewing for their people. I felt like
they already saw me coming before and I literally felt
myself flying through the air trying to get to their base,

(57:22):
you know. And once I got inside, is a lockdown
in there, like it's locked down. I couldn't even get
into the room. And with my spirit energy, I couldn't
even get in the room. I saw these red lights
or red numbers over the door, so I had to
go fall through the floor and then come up in
the middle. And when I got inside that side of
the base, I wanted information. That's what I came for.

(57:44):
You know, I'm risking my life to get this information,
so I'm going to get it. So I used remote influencing.
And I don't feel bad about this. I know some
people get mad at me when I say I do
this remote influencing. People need to remember, these people are
kidnapping and abusing children for our whole lives. Do I
feel bad about kind of forcing them to give me information. No,
I'm sorry, I don't. So I found one person that

(58:08):
was kind of like unfocused. I needed to do remote influence.
I have to find somebody that's not totally focused. So
there was a girl there and she was kind of
off focused, thinking about her boyfriend and things like that.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
So I pushed.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
I just pushed, put my spirit hands on her shoulder
and kind of like got inside of her. So I'm
using her body almost like a possession. I'm using her.
So I start making her type and she starts typing things.
I'm trying to get information about projects, and there was
one that come up, like project Stranger. And so when
I finally I'm in there, I'm only in there for

(58:39):
a few seconds, it's not even very long, and maybe
a minute at the most, and this big, huge message,
you know, flashes on the screen of her computer and
I said break screen.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
She flee.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
She kind of like freaked out, and she like pushed
herself back up from the desk and like jumped up.
And as soon as she jumped up, I was kind
of like flown back out of her body. Like they
immediately knew that I was there. Somehow, I don't know
how that they could figure out she was being remote
influenced maybe the information she was reaching. They said break screen,
which means everything stop. So that was one time that

(59:13):
you know, I kind of I mean, I felt like
it was still successful because I was practicing, you know.
But that's the kind of stuff I've been trying to do,
and I've gotten quite a bit of information in terms
of like documents and some of the legal language on documents.
I'm able to find looking at my own I was
able to get my own I'm I was able to
get my own service number, a lot of information about

(59:33):
my service record, and you know, things like that. So
it's really interesting. There's a lot of information out there.
It's just you know, nobody's looking for I'm like the
only person trying to do this that is like known.
You know, there's I mean, obviously there's other secret groups
trying this, but.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I think they have some kind of energetic frequency monitoring
system where they can tell who it is at any time.
You know, you would think that, yeah, people like I
guess a person with just an average way of thinking
would not be going as far as to think that way.
They would think, Okay, I'm an invisible spirit, so I

(01:00:12):
can't be detected, you know. But I don't think that
people get that you as an individual, you have this
energetic footprint that follows you through all your past lives.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Right, Yeah, how they're able.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
To Yeah, that's a good point. And I did see
one time where I broke into my own handler's house.
Because there's the handler divisions. They call it the after
cre program. Everybody who is in MK ultra you signed
forms to be monitored by the aftercare program and they
hide behind insurance companies at their front. I broke it
to my own handler's house using you know, remote viewing.

(01:00:48):
I use astral travel by location, you know, and spirit
hosting to do all this antilepathy I was using that day.
I brought everything I could do because I'm like, this
was serious. I need to meet this handler of mine.
And he was a total dick. And so I broke
into his house. And I want people to know I
didn't break into it physically. I used my spirit body,
just so they know I didn't break into it physically.

(01:01:09):
I broke in using my spirit body. So I found
him and he lived out I think in Rhode Island
something like that. And so I was in his house
and he had his office in his house, and these handlers,
they're not scary. I want people to think, don't be
afraid of these people. These are a bunch of nerds
sitting at a desk behind a chair. They use a
computer in a headset to tortures. These are not scary people.
There's nothing to be afraid of. And so he was

(01:01:33):
there and I came up behind him, and I like,
just like the girl I put, I try to put
my hands on his shoulder, just because I wanted to know.
And this dude, he has abilities. He knew, he knew,
he could feel me, he knew what I was doing.
So he starts typing on his computer because he wanted
to see what I was typing. And immediately he said
that asset is combative and that I was presenting with
ill intentions, and that he wrote that measures would need

(01:01:55):
to be taken and that it would be spleen and tremors.
That was the button he was going to push, you know,
and the recommendation he had to you know, because you know,
they target our health everything, so they're using all their machinery,
every technology they have, and they said that's what it
was going to happen. To me for trying this, And
I thought, what I thought was interesting is that this
was early on in my remote viewing sessions that I

(01:02:15):
saw a ghost, you know, in the back of his
room and it was his grandmother and she could see me.
Which I thought that was interesting is that I was
using the ghost to mention I didn't even know I
could do that. I was me and her could see
each other, Me and those he couldn't see either one
of us, but we could see each other. And I
was presenting as a remote viewer. So people, if you

(01:02:36):
ever see a shadow person, sometimes those are remote viewers.
Those aren't always spirits and ghosts. Sometimes those are remote viewers.
That's really interesting that I was presenting as like a
shadow person and she saw me and he knew. This
guy knew and we kind of went back and forth
arguing kind of thing for a while, you know, and
he just said, you know, pretty much, get out, stop

(01:02:58):
bothering me, loser, kind of like just you know, went
off on me kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
So, yeah, and I do.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
That a lot. I get that a lot. When we
start getting into where we're talking to like the handler division.
They're very abusive in their language because they don't want
you to know who they are. They can't believe. They said,
how did you figure this out? How did you figure
it out? I'll just say I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
I just figured it out. So it's surprising to a
lot of them when I'm able to do this kind
of thing. I'm like, you're the people the one that
trained me, so maybe should be asking yourselves why I'm able.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
To do this. Yeah. Well, okay, so we'll have to
do this again because there's more things that I could
ask you about, you know, Project Traveler and the Spirit hosting. Oh,
there's tons all that stuff. So we'll have to do
several there's yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Well thanks for being on Bonless Authenticity Podcast. If you want,

(01:03:56):
you can tell everyone where you can find your books
and where they can find you if they want to
talk to you, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
So I have two self published books around Amazon. The
first one is called gray Mouse Sex Space and Mind Control,
and the second book is called gray Mouse Purgatory, which
that one's my favorite. I have two blogs where I
put all my articles about my experiences on you know, weekly.
I have one on substack and one on medium. I'm
on TikTok, Twitter, x, Facebook, Instagram, you know all the
different spaces. You can message me there or you can

(01:04:25):
reach me by email. I put on my emails on
my socials too, in case you have a direct question.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
All right, great, Olivia, thanks, thank you so much.

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