Antichrist System Is Being Built?: Trump, Technocracy, and Bible Prophecy

Antichrist System Is Being Built?: Trump, Technocracy, and Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Je me now is JB. Hickson.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
He's an author on several books related to the Antichrist.
And also joining me is pastor Brandon Holt House. He
is out of Bakersfield, California, Rock Carver Church.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
I've spoken for his church.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Many times, several times on a Sunday morning, and his
ministry since then has blown up.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I mean it is really taken off. Wow. My high
school math teacher text me.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Today said you should have on Brandon hold House, and
I said, I actually have him on.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
The broadcast tonight already. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Brandon, JB. Welcome to the broadcast. Thanks for being with.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Us, glad to be here, Thank you, Thanks my friend,
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Thank you guys, and we'll be promoting your ministries and
your websites under your name as we get going here.
But I wanted to have you guys on to talk
about twenty twenty five and where you see things going
twenty twenty six as the stage themes to be being
set for the unfolding of Bible prophecy. Now, I don't
know where you guys stand on this. We can all

(01:07):
agree to disagree because we agree on so much. But
I think President Trump has done some great things, but
I think he is really squandering some major, major opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
And what I'm seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Is basically the Hegelian dialectic thesis and antithesis idea opposite
idea fight fight, fight, and then the change comes from
all the turmoil and conflict. But also you end up
with people being demoralized. We know that the Hegelian dialectic
process is a big part of communism.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
It is a big part of communism.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Dialectical materialism obviously part of communism. So without using a
lot of big words and having the audience's eyes roll
back in their head and be bored out their mind,
I basically when I tell you, folks, you're going through
a psychological operation. Okay, they gave you Barack Obama, eight
years of Barack Obama, and that was fun to mental transformation, right,

(02:01):
and then they gave you Donald Trump, and we thought, whoo,
a guy's gonna save the country. And he did a
pretty good job in his first term. I was pretty
excited about a lot of what he did in the
first term. Then we get I think the election stolen.
I think they want us to know the election was stolen.
They can gaslight people and they give you Joe Biden
new campaign from his basement, and he of course gave

(02:24):
his red light speech that Maga and Christians are a
fundamental threat to the country. It's white Christian males and patriots,
and the borders are open, and you let in all
the Chinese military, Asian males, and all kinds of other
jihati and terrorists are into the country.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
And then you get Donald Trump and.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You notice this thesis antithesis, thethus antithesis. You know, the
conflict and then some calm. Conflict and then some calm.
I mean, it's right out of the Tavistalk Institute playbook.
But now we're to a point where it's also demoralization.
We don't see change like we need to to preserve

(03:02):
the republic. We have people that are very frustrated. This
week we get a Vanity Fair piece that's showing Susie
wilds I can't control him kind of thing, and people
are trying to make excuses for it, but apparently it's
on recording and they are like, hey, we got the receipts.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Do you want to really to say this?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And then you've got the comments by President Trump about
Rob Reiner's family. I know that Rob Reiner had some
things to say about Donald Trump. They weren't very flattering,
But it's like, wait a minute, there's a time and
a place, and then you have President Trump saying so
many things over the last few weeks. Six hundred thousand
chi Com students got to come in here to.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Prop up these schools.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Really, Why we've got to get HB one visas to
foreigners to come in here and take entry level jobs.
Why we're going to let guitar build up military base
or have a base on a military base in Idaho.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Why?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
And now people are starting to realize, particularly after last
night's speech, which we didn't carry because we said it's
going to be a lot of talk, and I don't
think it's going to be anything, but how great the
economy is? D Convincio, A great the economy is while
we see our own government now buying nine trillion dollars
of its own debt because nobody else seems to want it,
and we are going to have more inflation. So he
can tell us all day long how inflation is down.

(04:18):
I don't believe it. The CPI numbers have been rigged
for decades, and it's about to go much much higher,
which is why silver's at over sixty five dollars an ounce.
And so I said, I'm not caring that because I'm
interested in action, not talk. And yet now we see
more and more people being disillusioned. The Republicans can't fix it,
the Democrats can't fix it. The MAGA coalition is now

(04:42):
falling apart, Anti Semitism is rising. There's a war on Christians,
a war on Jews. A nineteen year old Christian at
Brown University is apparently shot at close range. And what
it's doing, I believe, guys. And it's happening on a
global scale. Ten thousand farmers in the EU flooding with
their tractors today outside the Parliament, and I think, what's

(05:02):
happening with massive debt from central banks around the world.
People not happy, politicians not having solutions. The Leader of
Australia comes out and he says the solution to the
Islamist is going to be a crackdown on pastors and
free speech. I'll play the clip and hate speech right,
and I say all that to say, while that's very discouraging,

(05:27):
but I look at it and I say, but what
would have to happen for us to go to world government?
What would have to happen for us to go where
we have ten world leaders then eventually give their power
to an anti Christ figure who shows up performing counterfeit miracles,
signs and wonders to validate that he's not like a

(05:48):
normal politician because those guys were all talk I can.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Actually do things.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Watch this to validate his message, right, copying Christ who
did miracles not to put on a magic show, but
to validate the authority of who he was.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And so here comes the Antichrist performing counterfeit miracle signs
and wonders to say, I'm not like all these other guys.
They've talked a lot. I'm a doer. Let me show
you what I can do. And so I have to say,
do you believe that what's happening economically?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
War wars maybe one in.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Our hemisphere coming soon with Russia and Iran and China,
Hesbula right in our backyard in Venezuela, The currency collapses
around the world, the lack of solutions, the rise of Islam. Brandon,
don't you think this is preparing the way for Bible
prophecy and the Antichrist to which JB's written a two
part book series on.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Man.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
If it's not, then I'm crazy, mean, because everything's laying
out perfectly prophetically, every piece of the puzzles getting in place.
Everything you mentioned sets the stage.

Speaker 7 (06:54):
Man.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
I mean you think about, for instance, this economy that
you mentioned. We call it a reverse a K economy
because the stock market keeps going up but jobs keep
going down. And you have AI and he Trump did
this whole AI thing to where it's it's destroying jobs. Uh,
automation is just taking jobs away. So you have the
K model economy going up with the stock market, but

(07:17):
then jobs are going down. Dude, that's that's heading the
path right to revelation Chapter six A quarter a week
for a day's wages. And what did you have? All in?
Harari said, what we're gonna do with all these people
that can't work and don't and and don't have jobs, Well,
we'll get we'll give them video games and drugs and
then and that's what we'll do with these these useless

(07:39):
And what.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Did Trump and what did Trump just do with pot today?

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Mm hmm, yeah, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
So an executive order bringing it down to a uh
what level three?

Speaker 6 (07:50):
Sure, you got to have the drugs when they're not
gonna work. So and then at the same time, I
don't understand what he's doing with the Middle East. I
don't understand these kowtow to Qatar, who's the major funder
of terrorism around the world in Saudi Arabia, and bringing
in Jiulani or whatever his name is, Shara or whatever

(08:11):
his name is to the White House and being friends
with Turkey. I mean, are you setting up the whole
Middle East to come against Israel like predicted? I mean,
it's just amazing to watch this, Brandon, and I think
it's rapidly accelerating. That's what my takeaway with all of
this is how fast things are developing and nothing's stopping it.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh great analysis, Pastor, And what do you think, JB.
I mean, you wrote a.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Two book series on the Antichrist. I've interviewed you about.
People can find it.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Tell our audience what's the name of it so they
can get a copy the two part series.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
But is this all setting the stage for people to say,
isn't it Henry's Bank or whatever his name was in
the common market? Something I've been quoting since nineteen ninety
in my first book. He said, we don't need another committee.
We have too many committees already. What we need is
a man of efficient stature to hold the allegiance of
the people and to lift us out of the economic

(09:04):
barracage which we're sinking. Send us such a man to
be he got or devil or receive him. Isn't that
where we're at now? Trump can't fix the problems. None
of these guys can fix the problems. We need a
man of sufficient stature, be he got or devil receive him.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
And that's what Curtis Jarvin and the Dark Enlightenment folks
are trying to do. They're trying to install a techno monarch.
My friend Patrick Wood has written about that. He's been
way out front on that for years and years and years.
But yeah, absolutely, this is all happening right before our
very eyes. No surprise obviously for those who know the
Bible and no Bible prophecy. But you mentioned something earlier

(09:41):
about the Hegelian dialectic, and that goes back way before
Friedrich Hegeld, even in the Middle Ages to Machiavelli. It's
a common tool of the enemy controlled opposition to get
people thinking they have a voice, when in reality nothing
ever changes. As you mentioned, yeah, some good things and frankly,
more good things tend to happen when a conservative is

(10:03):
in power, and more bad things tend to happen, at
least overtly on the surface when a liberal progressive is
in power, But the big picture never changes.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
It was a Reagan appointed Supreme Court Justice, Anthony Kennedy
who cast the deciding vote in the twenty fifteen landmark
gay marriage case.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
John Roberts, appointed by George W. Bush, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Originally dissented but since then has just doubled down on
supportive gay marriage. It was a Republican nominated justice that
gave us Obamacare. So I mean it's a big head
fake when we think somehow, you know, if we can
just get conservatives in power, we can turn this thing around. Obviously,
from a moral perspective and an ideological perspective, we want

(10:46):
to promote right wing conservative viewpoints. But I think the
biggest thing that this year has taught us so far
is that just because we have a conservative in office
does not mean that the enemy's going to slow down,
stop or press pause. I think particularly in the area
of the burgeoning technocracy.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
By the way, you mentioned my Spirit of the Antichrist series.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
It's actually a trilogy, three volumes, and the third volume
was all about the burgeoning technocracy, and so that came
out in twenty three.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
But yeah, this, you know, the Stargate thing.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Within twenty four hours of inauguration, he had Larry Ellison
in the Oval, along with Sam Altman and some other technocrats,
you know, promoting the Stargate and funding the Stargate mission.
More recently, he's got the Genesis Mission, which has sort
of hailed as America's AI action plan. But it's never
about what it's about. I always remember that principle. It's

(11:40):
never about what it's about. So I think there are
some things happening that are being promoted as good for America,
but in reality they seem to be paving the way
for the beast system that we read about in Revelation.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
One hundred percent. I think we're on agreement. So you
believe that what Donald Trump is laying down. And this
is what Leo Holman and I said before he was elected.
We said, look if the globalists let him in, because
I think they can rig elections.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I think we all know that if.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
They let him in, is that because they need him
to sell to the American people what Kamala Harris cannot
sell to the American people, and that Donald trub will
come in as a salesman to sell us AI data centers,
central bank digital currencies, cryptocurrency stable coins. And that seems
to be exactly what's happening. So is Donald Trump laying
down the system that you believe I don't think it's

(12:27):
the antichrist B system now, but do you believe this
is what's being built what will eventually be the Antichrist
B system JB.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I do?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I mean, I think clearly the infrastructure is there, It's
been building up for quite some time, and some of
the final pieces of the puzzler being put in place now.
I like in it this time of year to putting
out your Christmas lights. You know, you put them out
in your front yard on some bushes and on some
railings across the front porch, and you test them out
before you put them in. But eventually, when you get

(12:55):
everything in place, you kind of plug them all into
one power strip so that you can push one button
and they all come on and I think that's what
they're doing now with all these different digital currencies and
digital ID systems and tracking and hacking systems. But yeah,
it's it's definitely unfolding quite before our eyes. As far
as Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
I mean, obviously he was better than the alternative in
a variety of ways, no question about that. But I
struggle to know sometimes whether he's the cart, the horse
or just taking a ride.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't even know if he knows sometimes because he
does some good things, but also he seems at the
very least to be a pawn in the hands of
the you know, the technocrats for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So, Pastor, you have a church.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I've had the privilege of speaking at your church there
in California, and so tell me as a pastor, we
have our Sunday night church service. I just talked through
the Book of Revelation verse by verse for a year
and a half. Just did a four hour series on
why I'm a Christian Zionist. I'm playing on teaching with
the Book of Daniel in the new year. So we're
all concerned about religious liberty and freedom and what churches

(14:05):
can and cannot do in Christian ministries. How concerned are
you when we see thirty people a day being arrested
in the UK for making social media post very benign
social media post.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
By the way, I just.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Saw another video. I don't know if I have it
up here on my page or not. It might because
I have a lot of things open. But I just
saw a video of a gentleman being arrested and they
arrested him in the middle of the night for a
very benign social media post.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And here it is, actually here.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
It is because I think this again is kind of
to the point of where I'm going about what are
you and I give you to say. We'll combine this
with a clip from the Leader of Australia after the
Islamist the jihat is murdered so many and hurt so
many over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
But listen to this in.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Terms of that.

Speaker 7 (14:56):
Basically, I Hate Crime Team reviewed it and said there
are offenses there when you twitch more. Unfortunately the time
is twenty one to thirty one to around the restaurants
referred to Section nineteen.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Explain in a second.

Speaker 7 (15:09):
You don't have to say I think we're having tends
to mention one question something which around if you do say,
maybe get evidence Basically I Section nineteen refers to spreading
what we say like racial hatred. So if you've posted
something online that we believe is spreading racial.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Hatred, you've said something online that we think is spreading
racial hatred, we think may the Facebook.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
Well, I can't explain too much. It's just to give
you the context beforehand. You put you into view because
I appreciate you've never been arresting for I have yeah, yeah,
frequent flyers.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
I don't think you were.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Basically, how it works now is then obviously if you've
got stuff you'd like to gather, Obviously I'm more than
willing to talk through what you're labeled to.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Take with you. What you're taking me away now?

Speaker 7 (15:56):
Yes, so you're und arrest, so you go into harrigan unfortunately, you.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Know, take me to Harry in the middle of the
night over a tweet. I am unfortunately? Is this what
you signed up the police? This is my role.

Speaker 6 (16:08):
I'm trying to be reasonable with you.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
Eh, So of the stuff you'd like to gather, are
more than willing to allow you to gather some sort
of stuff like medication. If you're any numbers you need.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
May have put something rationally troubling. All right, Now, let's
combine that gentleman with what the Leader of Australia, the
Prime Minister of Australia, just came out to say, watch
and listen and please pay attention for the word where
he references, what is the same equivalent of the word
pastor or clergy?

Speaker 8 (16:37):
Clear, we need to do more to combat this evil
scourg much more. A Special Envoy to Combat Anti Semitism,
Gillian Siegel, has delivered a report that sets out further
steps we can take. The Australian Government adopts and fully
supports the Plan to Combat Any Semitism. Will continue to

(16:57):
work through the implementation of the third in recommendations in
consultation with the Jewish community and the Envoy. And of
course the first recommendation was the adoption of the Irah
definition of anti Semitism that the government adopted today. I'm
announcing a significant number of additional actions.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
To build on the plan.

Speaker 8 (17:18):
Firstly, the Attorney General and Minister for Home Affairs will
develop a package of legislative reforms to crack down on
those who spread hate, division and radicalization.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
The National Security.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Who spread division really okay.

Speaker 8 (17:34):
Pretty committee has agreed that changes will include the following
five points. Agreed changes will include one aggravated hate speech
offense for preachers and leaders.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Hate speech for preachers. Did he just say hang.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
On offense for preachers and leaders who promote violence?

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Second?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay, interesting how they just combined speech with violence.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah, it's truly amazing. I mean, if you don't
think there's a war on the West to destroy our freedoms,
you've got to be blind, because that's what they're doing.
The globalists have to destroy the West. They have to
destroy the Judeo Christian ethics, free speech, freedom of religion,
all that. They have to destroy that. And now they're
going around through the back end and saying, well, we're

(18:22):
not going to limit free speech. We're just going to
call certain speech hate speech. And that's what they have
done in the UK and Brandon just talking to my
contacts in the UK and Ireland and over other places.
They're at the brink of the civil war with these
globalist elites and the Islamic immigration that's been going on,
and they're using Islam as a battering ram to incite

(18:44):
all of this. But anyway, you know, we're foolish to
think in America. That's not going to touch us. It's
hitting all of the West, and it's coming to America
real quick. And here's the thing, Brandon, what I have
been seeing over the last five years, especially with the
the COVID shutdowns and the mRNA vaccines, is I'm trying

(19:06):
to guess what will the pastors do when they are
told that what they say from the pulpit is hate speech. Well,
I kind of already know. Seventy five percent of the
churches failed in the COVID lockdowns. They stayed locked down,
took government money, and actually some of them told people
to take the vaccine. Will I already know if the

(19:26):
government tells them, hey, you can't be saying this about Islam,
you can't be saying this about the transgender or LGBT,
I already know most of the pastors are going to
shut their mouths. To begin with. They're going to hide
behind the Johnson Amendment and say, well, we can't talk politics,
we'll get our tax exemption taken away, or whatever they
want to do. But Brandon, the churches will fail because

(19:47):
they're already cowards in the pulpits. You got JB. Myself
and other Andy Woods and these guys trying to fight
the battle. But dude, the majority of the pastors are
totally will follow the government in anything they say. So
if this comes to America, and I know it's going
to and look, you're one administration away. Maybe it doesn't
happen on Trump's watch, but maybe the next person that does,

(20:10):
and they are like, yeah, we got to get rid
of this hate speech. It's causing stuff. They're totally going
to go after the churches. They're totally going to go
after passes like me and JB and Andy Woods and
the rest of them. They're gonna silence us because we're
the lone voice is saying anything. We even have the
woke right that won't even say anything for goodness sakes,
Megan Kelly won't even call out Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson.

(20:33):
So if they've got them in the bag, all they
have to do is do that to the pastors and
Tay say, we'll threaten you're taking away your church exempt status. Okay,
we're done. So Brandon, this is coming here. And if
people don't think it is, they got to wake up.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah it's coming here now. I guess it helps us
understand a little bit JB. How those who after the
removal of the Church during the tribulation period will become
followers of Christ. How they are being persecuted so fast
and even being murdered. You know, the Bible says that
they they will kill you thinking they're doing service to God.

(21:09):
The question is which God is it? The God of
the state, is it the God of Antichrist? Is it
just simply occultism? And the God of this world? Is
it Islam's God? The false God of Islam? Is what
God is it that they're serving that they think they're
doing a favor for by killing believers. But those who

(21:29):
are coming to Christ, Gentiles and Jews are being murdered
so fast. The Bible says, one can hardly number how
many are becoming believers, But almost as quick as they
become believers, they're being killed. Now they also are being
killed by the sword. And I don't know if that
implies Islam's growth, but I think we have greatly underestimated
the role of Islam before. I think it's finally dealt

(21:52):
with on a global scale with Ezeco thirty eight thirty nine.
God may God and people disagree as to when they
think that will occur. But at some point I think
Islam has got such a grip on the planet that
there is a lot of Christians being beheaded.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
What do you say to that.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, so I don't absolutely Islam is a key key
player in the Luciferian game right now. The Satan's ultimate
agenda to bring down America. We've seen it happen in Europe.
Randon is spot on when he talks about their goal
of destroying the West, in particular America. And this is
something that I've talked about for many, many years and
written about going back to the early twentieth century. The

(22:28):
Luciferian elite in America, they set out in artist to
dismantle this country. They took over media, education, finance, you
name it, the textbook industry, medicine, with big pharma, big oil,
they took it, over all of it. And here we
are one hundred and twenty five years later, and we
should not be surprised at how much this country is

(22:50):
collapsing culturally. Now we know that in order for the
Luciferians to bring in this one world system, the New
World Order, they've they've got to bring down America.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
So there has to be some.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Kind of unfreezing event that may or may not happen
before the rapture.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
We don't know. It certainly could happen before the rapture.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Nothing says that America is still going to be a
sovereign nation at the time the trumpet sounds. But whenever
it does happen, there's going to be something that sort
of brings America to its knees and in classic Aglian
dialectic form, causes us to cry out for a solution.
We need somebody to save us from the boogeyman, whether
that's Islamic terrorist celles, whether that's an economic crash, whether

(23:32):
that's some type of a World War three precursor with
involving Venezuela. If and certainly if we go to war
with Venezuela, that's going to get China and Russia's attention.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
So there are a number of ways it could play out.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But I think the big picture is clear, both in
terms of what we see unfolding from the enemy side
and what we see the blueprint of Bible prophecy and scripture.
So absolutely we're heading towards the fall of America. Interestingly,
by the way, we've got on Christmas Eve, a special
one hour a show called The Red Green Alliance and

(24:05):
the Takeover of America, where I've got a couple of
guests on to talk about what you just mentioned, Brandon,
the Islamic influence in America. And that's why, by the way,
I'll just throw this in and then I'll yield back
to you. That's why the church needs to step up.
Like Brandon said, I mean, the remnant is getting smaller
and smaller, which shouldn't surprise us because tewod Timty three

(24:28):
thirteen and other passages tell us that. My latest book,
The Great Last Day's Apostasy outlines what I think. And
i'd love to get y'all's take on this is the
most forgotten sign of the times.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
We see all these other signs technology.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
And wars and rumors of wars and all of that,
but apostasy is a pretty big one, Fir Timothy four
to one. And so the church is just failing miserably
to do what God has called the church to do
in these great last days.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Well, I do think that apostasy is a major indicator,
and I think you all of us have been warning
about that.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
That's why I wrote the book in twenty eleven, Religious
Trojan Horse, the Becoming Religious Reich that was the follow
up to that. And I had a conversation last night
with Naomi Wolf and she had worked with the Clinton
administration and with Al Gore, and she, of course now
said last night, I find myself more comfortable with a
lot of my conservative friends because of our stance and

(25:23):
when it comes to Israel, the Jews, fighting anti Semitism,
and of course the COVID shot, the bio weapon, all that.
And I've interviewed her so many times, but last night
was very fascinating clip Logan, do we have that clip?
A really fascinating clip. I want to play for you
real quick, because I think it shows why it is
that we have to speak up and speak out as Christians,

(25:43):
because there are lots of folks who will agree with
us if they just know what it is we're saying,
or like was the case last night, she comes from
a Jewish heritage, okay, and she couldn't figure out why
there were so many so called Christians and Evangelical coming
against Israel, against the Jews and saying the Jews are

(26:04):
not the real Jews. And I explained it to her
right on the air, and I want to show this
to make the point that this is why we have
to point out to people this apostasy in the church,
because there are a lot of people that can be
added to our voices once they understand what's happening. But
that's not traditionally where they come from. They come out

(26:24):
of government and campaigns in pretty high places, but they
want to know, they want to learn, and when you
give them a piece of the puzzle and the mystery
is solved, they're going to join the chorus.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
And it may come from places you don't expect.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
People that used to work with Bill c Linton and
Al Gore right, And which is why I have so
much respect for her, because she comes from a place
where she can reach more people than I can. But
she's also gave me the first interview after she wrote
an article and why she is such a strong proponent
of the Second Amendment. She said, you're getting the first
interview after I wrote that article. She is publicly coming

(26:59):
out and saying, oh, look I've changed my view. Here's why.
I mean, you got to love someone that's doing that right. Well,
watch this clips because I think it goes to the
point of why we have to point out the falling
away from traditionally held biblical truths. And I try explaining
to her last night that you know D. L. Moody,
Billy Graham, you know Charles Stanley, Adrian Rogers, and we

(27:19):
can go way back further than that people in christiendom.
This has been the view of traditional biblical Christianity for
well thousands of years. We can go to the early
Church fathers. Despite what John Rich, the country singer, wanted
to tell Uckle Carlson that this was invented in the
nineteen thirties, and I went immediately and showed the writings

(27:39):
of the early Church fathers, you know, from almost immediately
the first century. But listen to this because I hope
it'll encourage you the way it did me last night.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Listen to this.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
We have to remember Martin Luther was quoted three times
by hilar Mind Komf. But this is my calling in life,
has been largely in one sense, with my many many books,
is calling out the evangelicals because of where they've been going,
and one of them is the replacement theology. I'm fighting
the anti Semitism through the theological and eschaeological beliefs of
the modern Church to say, no, God's done with the Israel,

(28:09):
He's done with the Jews. We don't care about that.
We're now the new Israel, the Church. And I'm like, really,
it's funny. You guys want to take all the blessings
described in the Old Testament, but you don't want to
take any of the curses and the mosaic covenants. So
this is a fight, sadly that is repeating itself from
the nineteen thirties when the German Christians dissolved their denominations

(28:30):
and united under the rich bishop handpicked by Adolf Hiller
for the same reason they had all bought into the
replacement theology. So you and I are, i think, fighting
this in different areas, but it's the same fight.

Speaker 9 (28:42):
Closing comment, well, I'm just so grateful to you because
you've solved a mystery that was really haunting me. I
keep seeing people online seeing these crazy things like, you know,
Jews are no longer God's chosen people. You guys blew it,
you know, And so now we've replaced you, the church
is replaced And I'm like, that's not theologically accurate in Christianity.

(29:04):
I was wondering where it came from. And so now
you're telling me that there's a very dangerous, untrue, inaccurate
wave of misinformation basically going into American churches.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Pastor Brandon, Yeah, totally.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
JB can probably support this. The majority of churches, Brennan,
as you know, or replacement theology. Man, we are up
against a major problem. And here's the thing. Anyone under
forty five and that goes to a typical church these
days in America are taught replacement theology. They're not getting
the truth about Israel. So I got people that visit

(29:43):
my church and I'm having to unpack and unwind the
mess that's been created by these other passes and churches
about Israel and flat out there, why are they God's people?
And they're not in belief? They are enemies of the Cross.
I means all this anti Semitism, some rhetoric that you
hear and Brandon, it's almost like it's nineteen thirty eight again,

(30:04):
and I'm seeing the Confessing Church break away from this
Nazi regime church that hates Israel. It's absolutely scary. And
so guys like me and JB and Sharam and Andy
and all those guys were fighting the fight, and you
are too, but our voices are getting fewer. And the
problem is I can't outdo those who are controlling the narrative.

(30:27):
I can do my job. But when you get Tucker
Carlson up there saying, well, I'm just asking questions. Why
is it wrong to ask questions? Well, that way you
would be thrown out in a court of law asking
questions like that theyd insinuate that the Jews killed Charlie
Kirk or the masade was attached to Jeffrey Epstein and
saying all kinds of radical things like Candae Owens and that.

(30:50):
Right there is the problem, Brandon. We're having the major podcasters,
the top five podcasters in conservative areas, are ruling the
roost as far as the narrative concerning Israel, and a
guy like Nick fwint Is is carrying the water for
all these anti semi young people. So we got our

(31:11):
job cut out for us. We have a lot of
work to do, man, because the rally call is now
going against Israel, especially among the younger generation.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Very well said, well, let's talk about this going against
Israel and the Jews, because one of Satan's strategies, I
think is one that's been used by the Communists, and
that's the pincher strategy or the scissors strategy.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And you get two.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Groups going at it, and then you get a group
in the middle, and the group in the middle gets
squeezed by the two sides the pincher strategy. And this
is happening to the Christians, it's happening to us. You
have the left and the right fighting over these issues,
and here we are in the center as Christian Zionists, right,
and we're getting pinched along with the Jews. So isn't

(32:00):
Satan's strategy pretty lover because he's taking out two birds
with one stone, the Christians and the Christian Zionists and
the Jews were being squeezed by either side. And now
you have the Prime Minister of Australia saying, as we
saw the clip, well we need to deal with in
the lieu of the murder of people by the Islamist.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well the answer isn't dealing with Islam.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
The answer is to crack down on the Christian pastors
that you heard him say that, you know, the clergy.
So we're going to crack down on them, and we're
going to crack down on those involved in anti Semitism. Now,
let me tell you why this is a setup. In
my book Becoming Religious Right from twenty fifteen, I quoted

(32:47):
Tony Blair. Tony Blair of the Labor Party, the Fabian
Socialist Party, the Central Bank, digital currency. Everybody should get
a digital ID, everybody should get a shot, Tony Blair,
everybody should got a buy a weapon.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Shot that Tony.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Blair was talking about legislation that would criminalize people that
were involved in Holocaust denial. And some of the Jewish
leaders and rabbis in in Great Britain stepped up and said, look,
wait a minute. We don't like Holocaust deniers, but we
don't want to see a limit on free speech because

(33:20):
as soon as you limit their free speech, you'll be
limiting our free speech. So let us deal with Holocaust
deniers in the arena of ideas and debate. Well, what
do you see again here the same card being played
that I write about in a twenty fifteen book, which
is what eleven years ago, where we have ten years ago,

(33:41):
almost eleven years ago.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Now when you have.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
The Prime Minister of Australia saying we're going to come
after those involved in anti Semitism. Now, when you are
arrested for free speech, who can you blame? You can
blame the Jews. The Jews they went around and they
criminalized free speech. That's what they're going to say. The
Jews were involved in taking over because they're so powerful,

(34:04):
they were able to use the courts and the media
to make sure that the Jews can say whatever they
want and the rest of us get get arrested. Now,
let me tell you something. That's the lie. That's the
pincher strategy. And many of the Jews and the Rabbis
are not for this strategy. They've already on record saying,
don't play that card because we don't want to be

(34:24):
held responsible for the diminishment of free speech and we
don't want the limits on our free speech.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
But this is the setup. Am I wrong?

Speaker 6 (34:33):
JB?

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
So the Pincher strategy in politics is called the Overton window,
and what they do is they just keep narrowing that
window and making acceptable what used to be radically unacceptable. So,
and speaking of timeless messages and timeless books like your
book from twenty fifteen, I had all of my children,
we have six kids. I had all of them read
Naomi Wolf's book, The End of America, which came out

(34:55):
I think in seven some twenty years ago. And I
don't know if she's a believer or not, but she
is spot on on so many things, and I'm so
glad that you had that dialogue with her because she's
pretty far ahead in terms of where this country is
headed in terms of the Luciferian takeover.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
But yeah, as far as you know Candace Owens.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
And people like that, it goes right back to that
Hegelian dialectic. We've been talking about this controlled opposition. Now
I can't prove it, but I'm based on twenty years
of studying this stuff. I see a lot of red
flags when it comes to people like Tucker Carlson and
Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I really do believe they're controlled assets.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
We may never know this side of glory, but it
wouldn't surprise me someday if we look back and they
were in fact controlled messengers out there to help, you know,
steer this ship the way that the shadow government wants
it to go. And that's why it's so important, right
the way you know, the Bible says it's saying to
me three thirteen, evil men and impostors will grow worse
and worse deceiving and being deceived. And I think Brandon

(35:57):
said earlier, deception. It's just it's getting completely out of hand.
It's going to get worse, obviously after the rapture, during
the tribulation, as Jesus warned in the all of a discourse.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
But it's getting worse and worse, you know, the closer
we get to the return of the Lord. Paul said
those words in sixty seven eighty, that's nearly two thousand
years ago. If it was getting worse and worse, then
just imagine how bad it is today.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Depravity is a degenerative disease. It does not self correct,
it doesn't get better with time. And so Christians, more
than ever before, need to stay in the Word of God,
stay rooted.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
In the true north, be able to identify lies.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
I mean, it's getting harder and harder, especially when you
start talking about AI and technology, to differentiate reality from fiction.
And yet that's precisely the Church's job here is to
proclaim the truth. And of course the truth is that Jesus.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Christ, the Son of God, died and rose again for
our sins, and He's the only hope for salvation. Not Islam,
not the Five pillars, not the seven Sacraments, not your
own good works, not some social club mentality like so
many churches around today. Windy and I.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
By the way, this past weekend we were in Dallas
and we had a rare Sunday off, and so for
research we decided to go to one of the leading
megachurches of our day in Dallas.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I won't mention the name.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
But let's just say it's been in the news a
lot lately with some scandal, and it was worse than
I ever it could have predicted.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
I mean everything from the music to the message.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
And so I can now say firsthand the kind of
stuff that we hear critiquing the megachurch movement. But all
of this is not preaching the clear Act and in
urgent Gospel. The only hope is for us to place
our faith in Jesus Christ and Him alone for salvation.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Right amen.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Man Pastor Brandon comment on this the Jews being set
up kind of as the ones that are going to
take away our free speech, right because you can hear
the same voice as someone we mentioned now saying Oh, look,
the Jews want to criminalize those of us on the
free speech side of things with anti Semitism law, and

(38:00):
yet a lot of the rabbis and the Jewish leaders
don't want that because they want to preserve their freedom
of speech and they know it's a setup.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
But isn't Satan clever to.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Do that pincher strategy with the Christians and the Jews
right in the middle. Not that all Christians and Jews
obviously agree on everything theologically and doctrinally, but there are
some core beliefs of course, are Messianic Jews Jewish friends,
we agree with the Limano so much, but there is
a war on Christians and Jews. We know that they're

(38:29):
the Islamisers. You know, they're coming after the Saturday people
then the Sunday people.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
So speak to that setup of the pincher strategy.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Okay, so what's the ultimate goal. Well, the ultimate goal
is to discredit the ones in the middle, like you
and I and JB who are fighting for Israel and
the theology behind it. So what you have to do
is it's a classic communistic move, identify and then discredit,
and so what we're going to be seen as JB.

(38:58):
And I and Andy Sharam and you, Brandon are going
to be seen as we're we're the Zionis shills that
are taking money. I've already been accused of taking money
from the Zionist organizations to propagate this whole thing. And
I want to say, here's the reality. If the Jews

(39:19):
are so in control, how come China controls all the banks.
If the Jews are in control of everything, how come
it took them like two thousand years to get back
into the land and have their own nation. I mean,
it's just ridiculous. But the problem is, Brandon, people want
to believe the lies when you say that the Masad
killed Charlie By and it wasn't a shot through the

(39:39):
neck but a beeper from the Masad, like the beeper
things that they did up there, and you know in Lebanon,
you got to be out of your mind. But what
happens is people have a narrative. So this is a psygops.
They have a narrative in their head and they want
to believe and blame and escape goat the Jews, just
like Can wanted to go after Able for being mad

(40:03):
at God. It's the same kind of concept. And so
here you and I are, and JB and the rest
of us remnant believers are stuck here in the middle. Dude,
I can already tell you they're gonna make us the
crazy people. We're the ones that are designing this shields
that are getting paid, and we're we're we're troping out
the lives. And so they're going to reverse the narrative
on us, demonize us, and then, as you have always

(40:26):
pointed out in your books, you go from soft persecution
to hard persecution. And so that's are the legal persecution,
and then you go to hard persecution, Brandon. And so
this goes somewhere with the people in the middle, and
where I'm seeing this go is persecution legal and then
hard persecution. Brandon.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
My church is.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Us constantly being attacked by by people who hate Israel.
We fly Israeli flags along with the American flag. We
have it on our digital board, and again it's attacked
all the time. We get called the disgusting church on
snow Road because we support Israel, and we get all
kinds of junk. So it's already started, Brandon. So the

(41:11):
piss or move that's happening is to demonize us, make
us subhuman so that eventually they can persecute us dehumanization.
Let me switch to the humanization.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Let me switch to the.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Economy, and headed towards central banking, digital currencies, social credit scores,
because again, this is the way they're gonna, you know,
crack down on people who are speaking the truth about Islam,
about God's word, the whole nine yards. I played this
on radio today, but I think it bears playing again.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
The nine trillion dollar. The Feds just admitted.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
That the the market won't buy nine trillion dollars of
our nine trillion dollars of our debt, So the Fed's
going to buy their own debt. And this of course
is setting up massive inflation. And President Trump last night,
we said, look, we're not hearing that speech unless he
is going to actually say something that's worth hearing, not

(42:05):
just a speech defending himself and telling us how we're
in the age of the Golden Age and the economy's
bread and there's no more inflation. I don't buy the
CPI numbers. I mean, last month they were telling us
that after the shutdown, the Democrats have destroyed those numbers.
We may not know what the CPI numbers are for ever,
ever again, and all of a sudden we're being told
inflation's down.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I don't buy it. Let's wait till next month see
what happens.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
If he's so adamant that there's no inflation, why is
silver and gold at all time high? Silver over sixty
five bucks. It's not just because of demand for the
industrial metal of silver, which is part of it. But
the central banks are loading up their vaults with it
because they know what's coming, the collapse of the currency,
the end of the debt based system. Tokenization's coming. But

(42:47):
we also know they're going to have more inflation if
your government keeps printing money and buying your own debt.
Last night he announces checks going to the military for
seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars. Okay, why why? Why
the military? Why not every America? Okay, people, God bless
them that sign up for the military. But you know
what the deal is, and you know what the paycheck is,

(43:09):
and if you don't like the pay don't sign up.
So don't tell me that the military should get special
checks ahead of the people that are paying the taxes
that provide for those checks. Okay, So that doesn't make
me against the military. I think everybody deserves tax cuts.
We don't awn nobody needs checks. We need tax cuts massively.

(43:30):
I appreciate the ones we've gotten with the help of
President Trump, but we need the end of the IRS. Okay,
we need the end of this group and all of
our problems that started with the Federal Reserve in nineteen
thirteen and then the IRS and all they've done to
use that to weaponize the government against us. To the
American people, enslave us, take our money, give it to NGOs,
non government organizations, and then allow for the massive money

(43:53):
laundring that is enriched the power elite in Washington, those
in front of the curtain, those behind, and then of
course allows for Somali's and illegals to come in here
and then game the system for Pete's sake to the
tune of trillions of dollars that you and I pay
for and the listeners pay for because we get up
every day and go to work and pay these unconstitutional taxes. Now,

(44:18):
Donald Trump wants to stand there last night to try
to defend his economy and inflation. Why are you telling me?
Are you gonna such bad? It's bad branding? Because you
cannot put the genie back in the bottle, and you're
gonna be known for the guy that's there's no inflation.
There's no inflation. There's no inflation. Anyone that tells you

(44:39):
that's crazy. You really are going to set yourself up
for that. You're setting yourself up for failure because you
what you should be saying is we have a huge problem.
We have too much government, too much government spending. I
tried getting it under control with Doge. We're still trying,
but we have a huge problem with too much debt.

(45:00):
We're paying too much in interest payments on the debt. Yes,
we have massive inflation, and there have been a lot
of presidents responsible for this, but it all started in
nineteen thirteen, largely with the creation of the Federal Reserve.
And so yes, I'm working on it, but it may
get worse before it gets better. Why would you not
protect your own reputation instead of doubling down on no inflation,

(45:24):
Because I'm telling you there is going to continue to
be inflation because you can't help but have it when
your whole system is based on propping it up with
more and more money. Listen to this clip by doctor
Peter Saint. I don't know how you say his name?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Is it on nag?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
I don't know how you say his name. I wish
I need to learn, guys, because he puts off some
good stuff. But listen to this.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
The Federal Reserve just to announces unleashing the money printers
to finance a nine trillion dollar all a federal debt
coming do this year. As in, markets won't buy it,
so the FED will with counterfeit money. This is where
the FED type zeros on excel sheets in the basement,
declares their dollars like any good counterfeitter, then uses those

(46:10):
fake dollars to buy government deck called quantitative easing, or QE.
Jerome Powell said, the Fed's kicking off with forty billion
a month, which is a half trillion dollars per year,
lovingly printed straight out of your wallet. Now this is
concerning because the last time the FED did this in
the nineteen forties to finance World War Two, it sent

(46:31):
inflation into the double digits. At one point in nineteen
forty seven, annual inflation was twenty percent. In fact, it's
how Weimar Germany got to hyperinflation and wheelbarrows of money
because Once these central banks starts printing the deficit with inflation,
it's very tempting to make that deficit very big. After all,

(46:54):
there's a lot of special interests to feed in Washington,
A trillion here, trillion there. Soon it is real money.
Was even more concerning is that in the nineteen forties
it was just about financing government debt. Today the Fed
needs to pump hundreds of billions just to sustain a
financial sect there that has ballooned to nearly five times GDP.

(47:16):
The FED literally admitted this, with Jerome Powell claiming that
this is not real QE, which everybody knows is inflationary. This,
in fact, is necessary to maintain quote ample reserves so
the Fed can maintain control of interest rates. In other words,
the financial system breaks unless the Fed keeps a full
plate of cocaine or inflation by the bar. The Fed

(47:39):
knows this because markets cracked both times the Fed tried
draining QE. There was the so called taper tantrum in
twenty thirteen, and then another one again in twenty nineteen,
just for COVID, when interbank rates spiked two double digits.
In both cases, the Fed got back to printing to
suite bring us too. So far five and a half

(48:02):
trillion of freshly printed QE since the two thousand and
eight crisis, which is almost as many dollars as existed
in two thousand and eight. So a sex broad team.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
All right.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
So guys, it seems as though we're going to have
more inflation. The dollar has to go away. We're going
to have to go to a new system. It will
involve tokenization. I think it will involve central bank digital currencies.
They're going to be the big government, big business, tech bros,
public private partnerships, communitarianism, whatever you want to call it,
corporate fascism.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
And of course this will be slided in.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
With the social credit scores of China. And I guess Palenteer,
perhaps I guess building a file in every American And
again we're off to the races where you thought we
saw deplatforming and shadow banning and problems during COVID and
the Biden years. We ain't seen nothing yet, Pastor Brandon, No,
we have not.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
And I call this a controlled destruction of the economy.
And whether you want to use this the old term
of Cloward and Pivens, where you just break the whole
system and overwhelm the system to where it finally breaks
and say, oh shucks, sorry, guys, we got to go
switch to a new system, digital currency that's programmable, like
you're mentioning. And I think that's what the intent is,

(49:16):
because look, there's no relief in sight. And I read
article after article Brandon, and so I'm looking at this
from just an economic stand from a pastoral standpoint. You
know what's happening because people can't find jobs is the anxiety.
Suicide rates are skyrocketing because of the economy. And so
if you really cared about the American people, you would

(49:36):
care about their mental state and what an economy like
ours is doing to people. It's destroying them, and so
that's why the suicide rates are going up. I saw
another article a high number of Americans making over one
hundred thousand dollars Brandon are now skipping meals and putting
off medical care because of the high cost of living

(49:58):
in America, saying, what, what what is happening here? Does
Trump not see that? Does does the you know, the
government not see that? They don't care? We're facing a
tourism industry collapses. Another article, Unprecedented explosion of the price
of silver, like you mentioned, is going off the chain.
I mean, it's just it's it's unbelievable. And think about it.

(50:21):
Six If you're making six figures, they're saying you're barely
making it. Well here in California. If you're making six figures,
you are barely making it in California. It's so expensive
to live here. It's a two income state, Brandon. And
that's why everyone's leaving it, because it's it's a controlled
demolition of even the economy here in California. All the

(50:43):
big businesses are leaving.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
And basically, what what do you end up with? A
welfare state? And then uh uh? The elites in Silicon
Valley are controlling everything. They're the only ones that have
the money. And dude, it it's just like when when
the Book of Revelation says tribulation a quarter week for
a day's wages, three quarts barley for a day's wedges,
but don't harm the oil in the wine, which means

(51:08):
that everyone else will be broke, but the elites will
have it all. That's where we're heading. And Donald Trump's
not doing anything to stop this.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, I don't Brandon, I don't think there's anything that
can be done to stop it. It's like the car
is already crashed through the guardrail. It's you know, you know,
you know, crashing over the cliff, headed towards the ground,
and you're not going to just be able to throw
it in reverse and get back up on the road.
As far as Trump's speech last night, I just think
they're buying time. I think that's what it is. If
in my view, based on my research, I think the

(51:39):
the the powers that be, they call themselves Luciferians, they
already it's we're already on life support as an American economy.
They're just waiting for the opportune time to call time
of death. And it's going to be part of a
cumulative effort to bring down this country. But as you said, Brandon,
going all the way back to nineteen thirteen, all the
roads for the economy, economic problems in this country go

(52:01):
back to Jekyll Island. A lot of people don't realize
that the Fed is quite happy to keep doing q
E three, Q four, Q five because every time we
print money, the private owners of the Federal Reserve get money.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
That's why it's called a federal reserve. Note if you
look on any bill, it says Federal Reserve. Note it's
a debt instrument. And so when the when the American
government prints money, they're paying interest to print that money
to the privately owned federal Reserve. So I think it's
all smoking mirrors. You know.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Obviously a lot of people are really hurting. As Brandon
pointing out, we see it in our church. We started
several months ago a food pantry once a month. It's
been off the rails in our little community up in
south of Denver. We've had as many as one hundred
and twenty to one hundred and fifty people show up
to get food. We run out of food every time.

(52:52):
I mean, there's a lot of pain. And I have
adult children. I don't know how adults. You know, these days,
young adults could ever afford to buy a house or
to live. It's a different day. So it's cake and circus.
They're trying to entertain us with a lot.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Of the right left debates.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
And the pincer technique as we've talked about. But behind
the scenes, there's a real there's a real crack in
the armor here of the the US economy.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
And when you think the timeline is do either of
you have an idea? Is twenty twenty six gonna be
the year? Are they going to make twenty thirty by
twenty thirty? O? Nothing and be happy.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I mean know that.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
The occultist Alice Bailey, who's known as the mother of
the New Age movement, who consulted a demon.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
She said that out. She died in I think nineteen
forty nine.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
But she and by the way, just to remind listeners,
she had a publishing company called Lucifer Publishing, and their
own website admits that was the name at one time
changed it to Luci's.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Trust to have the screenshot to prove it.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
But she was consulting a demon known as the Tibet
and they wrote ten thousand pages together. She said the
outline the external of the hierarchy. She wrote that the
outline of the new word order would come in to
orn you start me to see the outline of it. Yeah,
by twenty twenty five, yeah, about in nineteen forty nine.
So this is pretty interesting. So what do you think

(54:09):
JV twenty twenty six. What do you see between now
and twenty thirty and particularly with the midterms coming up?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Well, you know, Obviously, the Luciferian elite haven't chosen to
loop me in on their timetable, but I wish they would.
But and God, of course we all know, is the
ultimate arbiter of the timetable. So even though the enemy
has a blueprint and a game plan doesn't mean it's.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
Going to happen. But you're exactly right.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I in my book Spear of the Antichrist, Volume two,
I had a whole chapter on twenty twenty five and
fifteen times. Alice Bailey references that year in ten thousand
pages of writings in which she channeled the demon, the
Master DK, as she called him. So something about this
decade is pretty significant to the elites. You know, you've
got going back to ninety two, you've got Agenda twenty

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one in Rio, then you've got in twenty fifteen Agenda
twenty thirty. They've been laying the groundwark. I believe that's
why the pre planned let's just call it the COVID crisis.
We won't use other words for it, but I think
your audience is well aware of what was going on
there was started to kick off the twenty twenties. It
laid the groundwork in a lot of ways, and then
you've got, of course, all the whole AI movement and

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the burgeoning technocracy.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
There's a lot happening as far as the timetable.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
It certainly wouldn't surprise me if we see something happen
between now and the end of the decade that really
changes life as we know it in America. My hope
and prayer, I know all of yours is as well,
is that the trumpet sounds and we're called home, and
that God's end times plan begins to shift into place.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
But we better be prepared of Brandon and Brandon.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Because as you all know, we don't know the timetable,
and we're not guaranteed we won't suffer. In fact, Christians
have suffered horrifically for two thousand years of church history.
We've been largely shielded from that in this great country
of ours, with God's fingerprints all over it.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
But we're not entitled to not suffer.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
If the Lord Terry's we could see incredible hardship and persecution.
You know, you've talked a lot about, you know, some
of the persecution in Europe. What happens when they come
for us here, what happens when they come for Brandon
for speaking the truth in Bakersfield, or you Brannon for
speaking the truth over the airwaves and in Branson.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
So I mean timetable. I think it could be soon,
but we better prepare for the worst and hope for
the best.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Let's turn to Europe real quick again. Here are the farmers.
They're out in front of the European Union headquarters in Brussels.
I think there's like ten thousand of them that have
showed up out there.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Look at this. We'll pull the music down just so
we can look at the images.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I mean, these guys. These guys are not fooling around.
They've had it. And this kind of goes back to
where we were before, which is a collapse of societies
realizing there is no human solution. You can keep changing horses,
but at the end of the day, the horses are
all coming out of the same barn, fed by the

(57:06):
same people, shoot by the same people, and you know,
groomed and bred and born by.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
The same group of people.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
It may be different horses, but they all come from
the same barn. I don't know a better analogy, but
this is again what people like g. Edward Griffin, who
wrote the creature from Jacko Island who's in his nineties. Now,
this is what he has been saying. You know, he's
like he was saying this for so many years. There's
no difference, there's no different in men of these and
these parties.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
And you know, you.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Almost don't want to believe that because you're like, you're
running out of hope here. But I think Donald Trump
is now proven there's not a whole lot of difference. Yes,
he di is different in some ways, no doubt about it.
But when you're dragging Bill Gates into the White House,
and you're dragging in Mark Zuckerberg and Palanteer and and
Sam Altman and all these guys, you're like, wait a minute,

(57:59):
is this really okay?

Speaker 1 (58:01):
So one one guy might be more.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Of a socialist, the other guy might be more of
a communitarian. But the end of the day, are we
going the same direction? Pastor Brandon?

Speaker 6 (58:12):
Yeah, it's just a different package with different rapping, but
it's the same. It's the same stuff, man, It never changes,
and it continues to show you. I think it was
what George Bush, the junior that said, it doesn't matter
who's in this White House, they will do exactly what
they're told, and I think that's.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
What George w told.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Reportedly, Glenn Back says he was called in to the
George w Oval office and lectured. He said, the next
guy that sits find this desk will get the same
orders from the same people I.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Get basically get orders from. That's what Glenn Back.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I think you're citing that Glenn Back statement.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
Yeah, that's I think that's where I heard that. And
I thought, yeah, that's true, because okay, so you mentioned
Europe and you're showing these farmers and you know it's food,
energy economy is how they control people. So I asked
a lot of the guys that I know in the
UK and Ireland, different places in Europe, and I said,
tell me what your elites think about your country. How
come they're selling out your country? How come how come

(59:08):
they're they're bringing mass immigration and they don't, and they're
destroying farming, and they're destroying everything energy, you know, for
saving the planet, so to speak. And they go, Brandon,
here's what you don't understand. In America. Our elites hate us,
they hate our culture. They are globally loyal to the UN.

(59:29):
Klaus Schwab and those types of organizations than they are
to their own countries, and they go, Brandon, that's why
they sell us out. They they that's why they bring
in mass immigration. And and so Brandon, we're looking at
an elite structure, at least in Europe and I would
say partly in America as well. And it's slowly becoming
all of America uniparty to where our elites are selling

(59:51):
us out. That's why we're not coming back. I'm not
trying to be negative or anything or but that's the reality.
We're not coming back because the elites think that globalism
is the answer. They think digital currency, all this other
stuff is the answer. You asked the average European that
doesn't have any biblical background whatsoever, and they're like, oh, yeah, man,

(01:00:15):
going global having the digital currency, that would be easy,
that would be great, it'd be convenient. And they've already
been brainwashed to accept this. And so the social condition
that's been going on for decades, Brandon has now caught
up to where when they introduce it, it's not going
to be a problem. It's not going to be a problem.
So unfortunately, I hate to be negative, but this is

(01:00:38):
the way it's going.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Oh all right, so this brings us as we get
ready to wrap to another topic, and that is to Venezuela,
what is going to happen to America. We don't see
America listed in the End Times. We see Iran, Turkey, Russia.
We have so many nations, obviously Israel, Syria, There's so
many nations we could lest off, but we see these nations.

(01:01:01):
If you go back to the old table of nations
and there are names then and their names now, you can.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Figure out real quick what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Of course Iran was split, you know, so you could
have Persian and see what is today these nations.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
But America's not mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Now some try to make America out, you know, America
is the Eagle and America's this. I'm like, okay, it's
what we're talking about. Specific names of nations. We see
them there. America's not specifically named. Have we been absorbed
into the new word order? Are we part of the
ten Federation? The ten leaders who overseeing the world and
give their powerty Uni christ like a North American Union? Okay,

(01:01:37):
then we might be part of that, but we're not named.
And now you see that our enemies are in our backyard,
not only that they're in our country.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
You know they're the terror cells. They're here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Joe Kent, who have had the chance to interview in
person and via technology, just told Congress there are terror
cells here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
We know it. You went, did the detail. We played
the clip this week.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
We know that Mexico is in a strong relationship with
China and the CCP, but we also know and have
known for a long time, that in Venezuela you have Russia, China,
I Ran Hezbola, and so we don't know what's going
on there. And that's why I wished last night President
Trump would have talked about that and talked about the
blockade and that Russia and China, I Ran and Hesbola

(01:02:20):
are in Venezuela, that they are, they're in our backyard,
and we don't know if they don't have missiles. Talk
about a Cuban missile crisis. You know, we've been warning
since about two thousand and eight, thousand and nine about
a Venezuelan missile crisis of missiles in northern Venezuela twelve
hundred and sixty four miles. As the crow flies to Miami,
speak to that, Jamie, you don't see America mentioned, and

(01:02:43):
how concerned are you that America could find itself in
a very big kinetic war, not to mention, we just
gave eleven billion dollars. Is that what I read today?
Eleven billion dollars to Taiwan? So are we going to
get involved in something with China over Taiwan? Are we
going to be involved in fighting the groups right here
in ore is? You know, Gordon Chang says, Americans, the

(01:03:04):
next war will be fought on our own soil. Gordon
Chang has been telling that to our audience now for
a couple of years. Tell me what your thoughts are
from your study.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Yeah, one hundred percent agree.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I mean God is fully capable in his word of
identifying nations that play a role in the end times. Turkey, Russia,
you know, Syria, Israel, all these nations. If God intended
for America to play a key role in end Times
prophecy could have very clearly explained it in scripture. So
all this allegorizing and trying to come up with some
secret hidden code that puts America there, I just don't

(01:03:33):
see it. And that coupled with the fact that the
Lucidferians have been talking about the downfall of America for
some time now they know it's the one thing standing
in their way because of God's fingerprints all over this country.
Tells me that we are headed kind of off the stage,
so to speak.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
Now, how does that happen?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
I think it's very possible that a kinetic war could
in fact be one of the weapons in their arsenal.
A lot of people have been predicting this for a
long time, going back one hundred years, have talked about
how well after World War Two, especially that you know,
this superpower is going to have to be brought to
its knees. And so I was kind of expecting last night,

(01:04:13):
you know, Tucker put out that misinformation that Trump was
going to talk about going to war with Venezuela. Tucker,
of course is a master of misinformation. So it turned
out not to be true. But I was, like you, Brannan,
hoping that he would address this because it's sort of
the elephant in the room, which my read on it
is that's by design. They they're sort of giving just
enough media coverage to it to put it in the

(01:04:35):
stream of consciousness of most Americans. But it's quite possible
that something some unfreezing event could happen that provokes America,
or provokes Russia or China or Venezuela, whoever, into this
conflagration in our hemisphere, as you said, and then it
doesn't take long for that spark to become a global

(01:04:56):
battle of some kind. So yeah, I think it's a
real a serious piece of the puzzle that with the economy,
with other terrorst cells, with other things that could happen
as accumulative case to bring down America.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Let me look at your head the cover of your book,
Spirit of the Antichrist The Gathering Cloud of Deception, Volume two.
Do you have a short list of people you think
are the anti Christ?

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Well, I believe that the devil knows.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
I think the Devil, who is not omniscient, of course,
has his man of the hour on standby in every age,
and I think he's especially been propping up his candidates
since Israel re emerged after World War Two, because he
knows the Bible better than most Christians. He just doesn't
believe it. He's self deceived, and so he knows that
Israel plays a key role in God's end times plant
ultimately Christ will reign from the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem.

(01:05:49):
So the minute Israel kind of came back on our maps.
I think he really ramped it up. And so I
think he knows candidates. You know, I don't think he's
going to be Jewish. I think we've talked about that
before on your show. I think the false Prophet quite
likely is Jewish, but not the Antichrist because of those Yeah,
the anti kis Epiphanes analogy really wouldn't make sense from
Daniel Laid if indeed the Anti Christ was Jewish.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
So yeah, I mean there's some candidates out there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
My best guess, you know, this is totally speculation, is
that he is in a position of some leadership today.
He may not be prominent, he may not be who's
who type of person in that list, but he's the
kind of person that people would know if you mentioned him.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
And I think as things.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Evolved, whether before the rapture or certainly after the rapture,
in that gap of time between the rapture and the
signing of the or the confirming of the Covenant, he's
going to rise to prominence and then he will somehow
deceive the world into coming on board his system.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
You know, some have said for a long time Joan ViOn,
I think had King Charles, Prince Charles, I think was
one of her short list people for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I don't see that today.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I think at one time, you know, his son, Prince William,
seems like he's a pretty big radical. I mean, he
seems pretty radical. I just watched his speech at top thirty,
so you know, I would put him on the short list.
You know, for a long time I thought Emmanuel mcgron
would be on the short list. Again, I'm not saying
these people are I'm just saying if I were looking
at people's worldviews, you know, I would say these people.

(01:07:20):
But you think it's actually someone whose name we would
recognize right now?

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
JB Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
I do. I do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
And I think all those people you mentioned they check
a lot of boxes.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I'd love to get Brandon's take on this, because he's
certainly studied this as well.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
But yeah, all those people, they check a lot of boxes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
But I do think it's going to have to be
someone that is very cunning, and then someone that would
get the apostate church also to sign on, because you
know the church well, if you're.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Talking when you're the head of the church.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Quote well, the Catholic Church, you know, I don't, I
don't just I don't just mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I know, I'm just talking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
If you're the head of a church and you're the
key of you know, Prince Harry William who becomes the king,
you know you're already kind of a tied into a
religious system and you're coming out of Europe a eurocentric
world government. I mean, there's many reasons I put some
of those guys on the short list. Is also just
with their line and their place on the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Now, I just think evangelicals is what I'm talking about,
postate evangelicals that fill up our pews every week, and
they don't really know the Lord as their savior. They're
already sort of have a sort of averse aversion to
Roman Catholicism. So it's got to be someone that is
a pluralist that can really bring everybody under one tent.
But certainly, you know those candidates, even you know, King

(01:08:41):
Charles like you mentioned, would would be a great candidate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Brandon.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I know we're just theories and spitballing here, but what
are your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
You take some of the cues you get from Daniel
number one, he's involved in the occult. He knows dark
secrets and stuff like that. The other thing you realize
is Daniel says he's he's a man of war. He
worships the god of fortresses. So he doesn't have a
typical religious background of his father's, it says, but he
worships war. So he either has to be very very

(01:09:11):
wealthy to be able to do war threaten it. And
again the threatened would come from the bow that has
no arrow in it. He's threatening war, but he doesn't
have an arrow in that bow. So somehow he has
enough money to garner enough military support to threaten, but
he never pulls a trigger or something like that. So

(01:09:31):
it would have to be someone that has that kind
of backing. It can't be poor, that's for sure. You've
got to have some type of You've got to be
a billionaire, basically, is what I'm thinking. And if that
box is checked, then great. And then the other thing
about it is he's from the genetic line of the Romans,
and so if you look at someone's ancestry, that you

(01:09:56):
have to be able to trace that. Because some people
were saying, well Trump's the Antichrist, Well if you trace
his ancestry. It doesn't trace down to Roman ancestry, but
so you would have to be able to narrow it
down to a Roman ancestry for this individual. It can't
be a woman. We know that it's got to be
a man, and so you know, with those clues, you

(01:10:18):
start looking for someone that kind of fits that criteria.
But the problem is you won't know until the rapture happens.
Then the man lawlessness is revealed. So we're taking guesses.
But yeah, guys have mentioned Prince Charles, people mentioned Obama
and stuff like that. But the thing is where I'm
looking at is he's not going to come from China.

(01:10:38):
He's not going to come from India. He's going to
come from Europe. And that's my idea that he comes
from a European base, more of an Italian, more of
a Roman ancestry. So we're not looking at Greenland or
Scandinavia for this guy to come. We're looking, you know,
in that area of where the Roman Empire was and

(01:11:00):
so you know, we can speculate. I believe he's alive today.
If we're in the last days, the Satan has got
a guy prepped. And here's the thing at some point,
just like Satan offered the kingdoms to Jesus in his temptation.
And remember, obviously we remember that from the three temptations,
Satan will again offer those kingdoms to this individual and say,

(01:11:23):
if you will bow down to me, I will give
you these kingdoms, and that guy will make a deal
and he will accept that offer, and Satan will work
through him, obviously to control the whole world for a
brief period of time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
All Right, guys, so closing comment, thank you for being
with us tonight. I know we're gonna get a ton
of feedback and people saying do this again, do more
of this closing comment from you first.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
JB.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, I think twenty twenty five has been a pivotal year,
but it's all been sort of just under the radar.
We haven't had any huge, major types of things happen,
like me, maybe some people were expecting, but there has
been a lot of movement in putting together the infrastructure
to pave the way for the one world system. And

(01:12:09):
so I think, you know, don't rest on your laws.
Now is the time for believers to be alert and
awake and not asleep. For Stestli's five six, we obviously
want to be urgent about the gospel.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
We've already talked about that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
We want to be prepared because again, the Lord's got
the timetable, and if he waits and he already knows
when he's going to come back, I'm not suggesting he's
up there trying to decide, but from our perspective, if
he doesn't come soon, we could be in for some
rough sledding. And so the Proverbs twenty two three says
the wise person sees trouble coming and prepares for it.

(01:12:44):
But yeah, I think the biggest takeaway I think for
this year in twenty twenty five would be the AI
and the technocracy and all of those things would be
at the top of my list.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
And you, Pastor Brandon, Yeah, I would add to that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
I'd agree with JB. Well, I'm going to add this
about the church. I call it the revealing of God.
He is separating the wheat in the chaff, and he's
doing it through issues, whether that's Israel, COVID lockdowns, the Jabs,
Charlie Kirk or whatever. And it's these hot button issues, Brandon,
that he is using to separate out. And so we

(01:13:16):
can clearly see who's part of the remnant Philadelphia element,
and who's part of Layo with the sea, who's part
of the tears, and who's part of the wheat. And
it's just like in that parable, the Lord gave about
the wheat and the tears separate him at the harvest. Well,
you know the interesting thing about a tear versus a wheat.
At the harvest, a tear turns this greenish gray color

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and the wheat bows in submission in this golden color.
And you can only tell the difference at harvest time.
And I think because we're in the last days, at
harvest time, it's clear we're starting to see the wheat
and the tears. When you have a transgender pastor up there,
pastor in the church, I think I can spot that.
So God is revealing and I think He's going to

(01:13:59):
do more revealing in the days ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Wow, Amen, here we go. Spirit of the Aniti Christ
by JB.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Hickson. It's a two part series.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
I think also has one of the False prophet You
can pick those up on Amazon and Pastor Brandon, do
you have anything you want to promote?

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
Yeah, I got a new book called Eternal Rewards. It's
just come out. It's about the five crowns, the rewards
that believers get for persevering and gutting it out and
doing what you're doing, Brandon, doing what JB's doing, you know,
in the trenches, continuing for the faith. Hey, not all
Christians get rewarded. Some will lose rewards at the beam

(01:14:37):
a seat, but some Christians will get that reward. So
I talk about that, about the five crowns. So that's
a new book. To pick it up on Amazon or
any bookseller.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Excellent, guys, Thank you so much. Let's do this more
often in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Please you bet Man love to thank you, Brandon.

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now at Worldviewfoundation dot com. And again, I want to
thank all of you that are supporting us. Thank you,
thank you, thank you. I never want to neglect thanking
those of you that faithfully support us. It's one thing
to ask for support, but it's very important to thank
those that keep the support coming, that are so faithful
to us. Thank you for trusting us for investing in

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this broadcast outlet, ministry work and programming. Work, and again,
all I can say is thank you so very much
for that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Worldviewfoundation dot com. Roll the music. Let's call it a night.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Worldviewfoundation dot com, Worldview Foundation dot com. My new book
on why I'm a Christian Zionist should be in the
vault before the year is over, and if not, it'll
be there right after the first of the year. And
then my book on Revelation, the full Commentary in Revelation
right after the first of the year. A lot of
great content coming your way, so again I hope you'll

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join the Vault as well as support us the Foundation.
Two powerful ways to support us through the Vault worldviewb
dot com Slash Vault and Worldviewfoundation dot com on behalf
of the team in the control room. And Dolly, May
God save America.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Take care