Edward Dowd on Global Economic Challenges, War Risks, and the Housing Crisis

Edward Dowd on Global Economic Challenges, War Risks, and the Housing Crisis

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Take a look at the screen right here, folks, My
next guest someone I really enjoy interviewing Edward dow.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Here he is.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I hope you'll follow him on X find out all
about him. He's putting out a lot of great information.
To follow him if you want to keep up with
what's happening. He joins us now, ed, thanks for being
with us again.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
How you doing today?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Thanks grating on again.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, great to have you on. Thanks for making time
for us.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
We have so much to talk about, so limited time here,
but let's get right to it. World War three. I
want to talk about World War three. I want to
talk about AI data centers. I want to talk about
central MA, digital currencies, COVID depths and these things really
all do fit together interestingly enough. But let's start with
World War three. What are your thoughts on where we're

(00:47):
going here today? Of course, I guess President Trump is
going to limit the time response for President Putin to
end the war with Ukraine. There is talks, of of course,
obviously giving more or weapons to Ukraine or from the
American side. Seems like the European countries are just itching

(01:07):
to go to war. Is all of this because particularly
for the Europeans. Are they in economic distress, that's what
some I hear are saying, and they need a war.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
How do you what's your take on all that?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, yeah, so Europe is in an economic problem. They
Germany's economy has been very poor, even though their stock
market has been hitting new highs, that it's disconnected from reality.
So the German economy, which is basically the EU economy
is in the is in the dumper. They have a
demographic problem, they have pensions and an aging population, lots

(01:45):
of sovereign debt. And you know, traditionally when when when
you have a debt problem and a declining demographic problem,
you have economic issues. And those in power like to
stay in power and they don't want to get blamed
for what's going on in their own country. So war
is usually a very easy way to rally the country,

(02:09):
actually invigorate the economy somewhat. And uh, and and and
keep yourself in power. And you are correct that the
European countries seem hell bent on going all in on
this Russian Ukraine situation, and unfortunately Ukraine is getting slaughtered
in this war. Russia is making the slow advances. Uh,

(02:31):
they're eventually going to take a Dessa, which is a
port on the Black Sea, and it's gonna it's it's
going to continue to get ugly less pieces negotiated by Trump,
which there is a chance for that, but I don't
hold up I had any hope. We've got this twelve
day announcement and we'll see what happens. But so we
got got the problem in the Ukraine Russian war. Russia

(02:52):
is gonna is not going to give up the territory,
so any negotiations will include a taking of territories. I
suspect if there is a So we got that problem.
We have a Mid East problem where you know, Trump
did declare the end of the Twelve Day War, but
there continues to be issues there. It's not being well reported,
but I think they continue to bomb each other. So

(03:14):
we got we've got And then we have the Chinese
Taiwan situation and war war war seems to.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Be a problem.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
And you know, an economist that I respect, Martin Armstrong,
believes war is on the table in the next twelve
to twenty four months. You know, I hope that can
all be avoided. But that's that's definitely something that's in
the background. It's summertime right now. People are not talking
about it. People that seem to be focused on Epstein

(03:43):
and other issues and whatnot. But war is definitely in
the background, and it's something I worry about absolutely.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
So you also have on your website here on your
x account, you're talking about a new report that is out.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Housing price is brewing the new homes.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Anundrum. This was July tenth. But what do you think
is going on here with housing?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Now?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I'm in the mid South, Okay, outside of Memphis. We
never had an overheated market.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Has it come down? Not much.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Basically, you were vying for with eighteen people, fifteen people
for a home if you really wanted it. A local
realator said you better offer twenty thousand over asking price.
Generally the math shows whoever offers twenty thousand over asking price,
that's who's going to get it.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So that's cool.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Where you had fifteen people lined up, Now some homes
are going weeks without a showing, and who needs to sell.
They're just some of them are even taking a little
less or right at what they have to have to
get out.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
So has the market gone softer here in the Mid South? Yes?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
But We are never an overheated market like say Los Angeles, Washington, DC,
whatever the market might be. So I know that this
varies from state to state, city to city overall, though,
what do you think is going on in the housing market?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
So housing is there's a conundrum going on there.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Housing got overheated, but it then we had illegal immigration,
which supported a lot of the through rents. Rents put
a floor on housing prices, so housing should have rolled
over a couple of years ago. But the illegal immigration problem,
which Trump is taken care of, has stops, so there's
zero flow at the border. Deportations are not at the

(05:31):
levels you promised yet, but that doesn't matter. We're seeing
new tenant rents. We're going to put out another update
to our new Tenant rent report which showed a big decline.
So rents, new rents, new tenant rents are declining. These
feed into home prices, and we're seeing construction slowing, leading
indicators in housing indicators slowing, and we suspect we're going

(05:55):
to get another housing recession sometime in the next six
to twelve months beginning. And you know, we don't know
how deep it's going to be. It could be mild
it could be severe, but there is going to be
a housing recession, and it was held up by the
legal immigration which is going all the wrong way, and
you're starting to see it. Everything's slowing. New home sales

(06:17):
are rolling over, new tenant rents rolling over, construction and
completions are starting to roll over. So it's a slow
it's a slow process. The the in the housing crisis
in the two thousand and seven, eight and nine, it
started in two thousand and seven, didn't really get on
anybody's radar screen until two thousand and eight, So that's
kind we're kind of in the two thousand and seven

(06:39):
stage where we're seeing the indicators rolling and the question
is how quickly does it unfold and when do we
see the feedback loops into the economy, Because you've got
to remember, housing is a big part of our economy.
It is twenty percent of the consumption component of the economy,
which is eighty percent of overall GDP, and that you

(07:03):
know that it's not just housing. It's helping ancillary businesses
around it, the real estate brokers, the financial services around it,
the insurance, the title and you have it, and that
is going to probably end construction that's all going to
start to manifest itself, we think soon, and it's going
to hit the payroll numbers sometime over the next twelve months.

(07:24):
So you know, this is just a normal cycle. It's
an eighteen year cycle. The last housing crisis of eighteen
years ago and here we are eighteen years later. You know,
it's not the end of the world, but you know,
to be honest, it's really needed.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
The millennials can't afford homes.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
The only thing that can adjust is price, and a
nice housing recession will allow a new generation of homeowners
that are younger and in the stage of the life
where they're going to spend more money to fill that
home with furniture and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
So, you know, as as bad as it might seem,
it's good in a way.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
For those who, maybe though are concerned about the economy
where we're going, that are in the heart asset, silver gold,
land houses, rental property, heart asset and revenue stream. Would
you be discouraging people who are in the rental business
heard asset rental business from doing so well.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
We've been putting out these reports since being in in January.
A lot of real estate professionals have been buying these reports,
and if you're in the real estate business, you don't
you know, you don't sell everything. But what you do
is you raise cash, you take less risk, and you
wait for lower prices.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
So it's it's not, you know, the end.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Of the world. It's just accumulate some dry powder weight.
And you know, if you're in the real estate business,
you'll get.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Some nice deals.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
If you're overlevered, yeah, if you're overlevered and you're up
to your eyeballs in debt, you might have a problem.
And I'd recommend selling, selling some hard assets if you're overlevered,
but it depends on your leverage.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, a lot of our audience is very conservative, and
I'm asking because they like hert assets. A lot of
folks in my audience they love land, gold, silver houses,
particularly rental properties, because they're into hard assets, trying to
you know, be debt free and have a hedge against
what may be coming, which is kind of you know,
it seems to be unknown. Right, Let's move to AI.

(09:23):
We've done a lot of programming here on this the
Winning the Race. America's AI action plan seems like it's
calling for data centers, infrastructure, I guess I'm a little concerned.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
About the power grid.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
We live outside of the Memphis area, the mid South.
We have AI here already about thirty minutes away.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Is you know what is it XAI or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
We now have right over in West Memphis Google announcing
a ten billion dollar data center our We have a
local guy on the city council that said, when I
asked about the power flicking often on, flickering off and
on about a year ago, and when all this was
going on with Elon coming to town, it say, is
there any correlation? And he said, well, I don't know.

(10:08):
I'm only can tell you what I'm hearing as a
city council member, that yeah, is they're trying to get
this machine up that is pulling on the grid. And
of course we've had our power go up and down
two or three times on a beautiful sunny day, no wind,
and it goes up two, three, four or five times.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
In a two minute period.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I don't know, maybe it has nothing to do with that,
but it's a beautiful sunny day, no wind. It's like,
this is weird. And I've been here now going on
twenty one years. We're seeing those kinds of things. Now
they're going to bring in a ten billion dollar data
center on the Arkansas side with a Google. How concerned
are you ed for the infrastructure, the power grid?

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, this is the problem. The power consumption of AI
is a mens and I contend that eventually we'll come
up with a way to reduce those power requirements.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
And in China they already did that.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
With their deep seek A requires much less power computing power.
So this is this is a classic problem where it's
going to cost a lot of money to bring AI.
And here's the problem, Logan, we don't have any revenue
streams really on the other side of this. It reminds
me of the broadband build out in the late nineties
early two thousands, where we were where there's a ton of

(11:21):
investment in broadband and all these new companies raised a
bunch of capital through junk bonds and private equity and
what have you on a dream and a hope, but
there was no revenue on the other side, so eventually
they collapsed. This this seems to me to be the
same story. Uh, there's a lot of excitement, a lot
of building, but and the power consumption is so high

(11:44):
that it doesn't make it economical because there's no really
we turn on investment eventually. So I think this whole
AI bubble is going to burst, and I think we
don't need to worry about the power consumption because it
will burst, and we'll also someone will come up with
a way to do this at much cheaper power consumption levels.
It just has to happen. There's no way we're going

(12:05):
to let the gods of AI suck all our power
while old people, you know, freeze to death in the
northeast or suffocate in the south with the AC going down.
So we're not going to let that happen.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, I pray we don't.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
So the whole panic over losing your job to AI
is is really not a big deal.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Well, you know this is interesting, So I think AI is.
It's a large language model. It has a lot of
problems that hallucinates. A lot of businesses are implementing it,
but a lot of them are finding that.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
You still need humans.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I suspect you'll hear headlines of oh, we let a
lot of people go and replacing them with AI, and
it's just you know, it's going to be a way
to justify job cuts in the coming economic slowdown. I
think I think AI long term is very interesting, and
there'll be a lot of.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
You know, job displacement, but it's not going to happen overnight.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I'm not as a frightened of AI A lot of
other people are, just I just still think it's as
ready for prime time as people think.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
That's a very good point economically, thirty seven trillion dollars
in debt. Add this, I guessed over about two hundred
trillion if you had all our unfunded liabilities, et cetera.
You know, I remember in the early nineties reading guys,
don't these names me anything to you? Larry Briquette becoming
Economic Earthquake, and so many guys writing books about, you know,

(13:24):
getting out of debt, debt free in the early nineties,
and other guys were writing books bankruptcy. I have some
of these in my library still. Some of these fellt
us have passed away. I was having this conversation over
the weekend with some folks, and I was saying, I
think these guys, a lot of these guys back from
the early nineties writing these books, would be stunned that
we're still going. Why do you think that is? Do

(13:46):
you think that they never thought the American consumer would
have confidence in the system like this. Do you think
they thought Congress would never behave in this way? Why
do you think the system is still afloat even though
many in the early nineties were talking about, you know,
a coming economic earthquake.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
I think what a lot of people missed is how
long is this this debt public could blow itself? And
uh what what? What? What a lot of people missed was
the offshoring of our companies to China. So that created
a nice disinflationary period for a long long time.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Uh and and and and and.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
You know, a lot of the jobs in the US
turned into services service positions. But the middle class has
been hammered by this, uh this, this advent of this policy.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Standard of living has gone down.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
The average you know, college graduate is having a hard
time finding a job in his field or her field,
so they have to get three jobs. So this is
why we see the rise of populism. So again, this
is this debt bubble that's been blown globally is giving
rise to populism. And it's this we're coming to the
kind of the end days of this Again. I don't

(14:55):
think it's you know, it's the US is kind of
the cleanest shirt and a dirty laundry. We are the
reserve currency of the world, and I think, you know,
as bad as it gets for us, it'll be way
worse globally when this step bubble does finally burst. So
this is amazing to me. Ever since the Great Financial Crisis,

(15:16):
we've been trying to figure out how long they could
blow it, and it's you know, fifteen years later, here
we are still going, and the beast known as the
debt reserve system needs tossing. Credit creation and cod COVID
was a definite boon to that system. And quite frankly,
we think safe because in twenty nineteen there was indications

(15:37):
that it was going to come apart, and then they
magically were able to globally print trillions of dollars and
then have the government spend them on the COVID war.
And so that's why I always worry about war, because
war is very inflationary, and there's two ways to get
out of a debt problem, default or you inflated away.
So that's why you know, when you open this segment

(15:58):
on war, that's seems to be the go to playbook
for bankers and global governments when they get into trouble
on a debt issue.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
So basically, something we've been saying here along with others,
is war. War checks all the boxes. I mean, you've
been doing so much great work on COVID and COVID deaths,
and I think last week you went viral with you know,
the conversation about five thousand people a month dying here
in America. I know doctor Thorpe and a few others
thinks it's as high as seventeen thousand a month. But

(16:31):
it seems like it eugenics or a population control. I
don't know if that was deliberate or a side effect.
It seems almost deliberate to me. But if you talk about, well, hey,
let's decrease some of the population and also deal with
our financial crisis, it seems like war checks all the
boxes for all of it, doesn't it, mister doubt Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
It sure does.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
And look, the COVID people need to remember, you know,
even on COVID, I blame the vaccines for a lot
of this. The vaccine seemed to take out most the
old people. Of the one point two million people that
died between twenty one and twenty twenty three, eight hundred

(17:13):
thousand more old people. So it definitely seems to be
taking care of our social security and debt problem.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
And globally this is happening as well.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
So you know, even though young people are dying, the
numbers are bigger in the older populations.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
So that almost seemed planned. And I was reading a
report from someone the other day. They were making correlation.
He said, look, this is just me pulling figures, but
I'm seeing Social Security payments they're not going out, which
means these people are dead people dropping off. You know, Obamacare,
Why would you give up free healthcare because you're dead?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Did you put these two numbers together?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
He's like, we've got a population of people that are dying,
and it seems to be the older population, which seems
to fit with what you're saying, which seems again to
solve a crisis. So I don't know where all this
is going. But again, war does seem to check all
the boxes. What are your thoughts on gold and silver going?
I mean, some guys are talking, you know, easily five
thousand dollars gold. Some are saying ten thousand the next

(18:11):
few years. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (18:14):
I think I think long term, again, there'll be ups
and downs and movements, and there might be a pullback
in gold if there is a giant global margin call,
but it'll be temporary and a good buying opportunity. But
long term, I have a friend who does a lot
of good technical analysis, and he thinks gold will be
ten by twenty thirty, and of course silver we'll participate

(18:36):
in that. I think gold physical gold. If you want
physical gold, you don't want the paper you know, ets
or futures market gold. You want physical gold, and I
think it should be a part of everyone's portfolio.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
And it's a long term hold.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
You don't trade it, you accumulate it, and you just
put it away.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
About five minutes left here with mister Dowd.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Let me ask you in regard to twenty thirty World
Economic Forums says, by twenty thirty, you'll own nothing and
be happy.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Is that blooney? Now? Is that gone?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Or is that a system where you subscribed everything? You
will be renting. You'll be getting your netflixed. You won't
own your refrigerator, you'll rent it.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Was that a marketing thing? Was that a big boogeyman thing?
Or is that something that's still on track. By twenty
thirty people a lot of people won't own stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Well that was I remember when the World Economic Forum
came to the forefront during COVID. I didn't even know
these guys were and it was kind of the coming
out party COVID, and then they started making proclamations you'll
own nothing and be happy, leave the bugs, what have you.
I think, for the most part that is not going
to happen. They'll still try to implement that. They'll be this,

(19:50):
you know, if we did get a big economic crisis
and it's worse than I think, they'll try to introduce
to cbdc UBI universal basic income and tie it to
the CBBC, and then that, you know, could be a
way to you know, make everybody renters and.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Basically feudal slaves. I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
I think enough people are awake, enough, people like their
own sovereignty, enough, people like to own things and have
a stake in the American dream. If we do go
that way, it's game over. But I do think COVID
woke up a lot of people. I think the populist
national populist movements around the Globe are great in that

(20:34):
that they're waking people up to what the real deal
has been going on for the last twenty thirty years,
which has been a financialization and movement of capital from
the US to other countries.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well, I've been doing this thirty five years, seventeen books,
hosting radio professionally since ninety five, TV full time since
two thousand and six. Added to it conferences we've put
together my wife and I Worldview weekends and three hundred
locations in America. I've never seen the people awake like
this ever, which really begs the question, mister Dowd. If

(21:06):
President Trump cannot fulfill on some of these things and
restore the republic and some liberty and freedom, does America
survive as a union or do we start seeing attempts
at secession maybe Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, a few others saying
we're done. We're not going to be the slaves of
the federal government system. We're not doing this anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Do you see anything that causes that to happen?

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I know there have been some folks that predicted this
in fifteen twenty years ago from overseas.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
It's definitely a possibility.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
The good the good news is people are waking up
and the.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
People that we've been fighting kind of went too far.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
They went too far with COVID, they went too far
with transhumanism, transsexual surgeries, they went after the children. So
the good news is succession, while still the possibility, I
think can be pushed back if we get enough people
in some of these you know, blue states like California
and New York to fight and make sure that.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
We don't go that route.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
You know, what we what we need to understand is
there's been a whole generation of people brainwashed and the
education system that they've been turned into victims. Is there's
a huge swalt of our country that's in victimhood that
want free things and believe that everybody other than themselves
is their enemy.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
And that that is a that is a problem.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
And uh, there's there's nothing quite like economic uncertainty that
might wake some of these people up when some of
their some of their free programs are cut off.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Before I ask you to promote some of the services
or books or websites you want to, let me ask
you in regard to the Middle East.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I don't know how much you track the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
My guess is you track all these things so they
all are are of the big global picture here. I've
been tracking the rise of Babylon. In one of my
books that came out twenty sixteen, I talked about Babylon.
Now I'm coming at it from a Biblical eschatology perspective,
where I'm reading the Bible and saying, I believe the Bible.

(23:13):
I trust the Bible. I'm going to watch and see
what happens. Is you know, people say, well, in New
York's Babylon, America's Babylon, I'm saying, well, personally, I believe
when the Bible says Jerusalem means Jerusalem, Babylon means Babylon,
Rome means Rome. And I'm watching for the rise of Babylon.
And some people have pushed back against that. Other scholars
are saying, why not. We trust the Bible proving itself
to be true in many ways historically. So I'm watching

(23:37):
and now we see I don't know if you're tracking
this this fall port. They're building this massive fall port
through Iraq Roadway as well, doing massive infrastructure there. I mean,
it seems like Iraq, Babylon, this whole region is coming
to life. We have the United Era of immorants rising,

(23:57):
Dubai comes up out of the sands, so quick, what
role do you think the Middle East is going to
be playing on the world stage over the next twenty years.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
So the Middle East people need to understand. It's after
World War Two. A lot of the borders were drawn
by us. They're not real countries. They're very tribal religions
of all flavors in the Middle East, with a lot
of history and conflict and hatred. And it is a
conundrum beyond the conundrum. And when we went into Iraq

(24:31):
and said, oh, we're going to turn that into a democracy,
that's a joke. It's a tribal land, Sunnis and she
eyes you name it. This is this is a hotbed
of religious beliefs and hatred that goes back centuries. And
so it is a focal point and a bubbling cauldron
in my humble opinion.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
So you don't see anything big coming out of the
Middle East anytime soon.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Not anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
But you know, look, Siria fell, that's not good.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I mean, you know, as much as you might not
have liked the leader there, at least he kept some
sort of law and order now we have Now we have.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Basically iceis in control of Syria. Right, that's a disaster. Ye,
I mean, to be honest, I'm not I'm not saying.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
That nothing's going to come out of there soon. I'm
saying that it could bubble over at any minute. And
there seems to be a vacuum of power Syria to
sell uh, And that that's not that's not good for anybody.
We have conflict between Iran and Israel that could go uh,
you know, nuclear at any moment.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
And this is this is something that I worry about.
I mean, the Middle East is something that a lot
of people.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Don't understand and and and even our own State Department
doesn't understand.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I agree with that. All right, what what can we
have you promote here? I want to put up your
ex account at Edward excuse me, at Dowd Edward. What what
else do you do you want to power audience that
you have available for them?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
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com with the pH that's where we sell a lot
of our economic research. Some reports are expensive, some are
less expensive, but we're putting out constant economic research We
have a lot also of free resources. We post free
reports every now and then, so I recommend you take
a look if you're interested in what's going on with

(26:19):
the real economy underneath and some of our predictions. We're
using a lot of real data, real leading indicators. Also,
I wrote a book Cause Unknown, The Epidemic of Sudden
Death in twenty one and twenty two and twenty three.
You can find that on Amazon. And we continue to
try to get to the truth of what's really going
on underneath all the propaganda that we see daily.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, you are a very interesting guest.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I love reading your reports and information and watching interviews
you do with others, and it's an honor to have
you here with us again. And I do hope folks
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Speaker 2 (26:57):
Mister dow Thank you for your time, Thank you, love,
great to be here again, mister.

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Ed Dowd checking into and I follow him on X
at Dowd Edward.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
There you go, all right, we'll be right back after
this break.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
We all gave up on mainstream media. And when I
say mainstream I'm talking like Fox News, Newsmax and the
big name, the big players on the block. Right, if
you're like me, you gave up on them a few
years ago. So I have been interviewed by a lot
of different alternative media outlets, and one in particular, I

(27:34):
won't say who it was. Who it is, it has
three letters to its name, but I was. I appeared
for a couple of years every Wednesday on one of
their shows, and then suddenly it got canceled, and it
come to find out when I did a little investigating,
it was because the host of the show mentioned Jesus

(27:54):
too often. And if I told you who this was,
you'd probably be shocked because it's a very conservative alternative
media outlet. But this is where Brannon is different. Like
Pastor Wood said, he's the very unique in the sense
that he gets it in terms of what's going on geopolitically,

(28:18):
what's going on nashally. He knows that all of the
issues like the back of his hand. But yet he
sees from a biblical worldview, how it's going to influence
all of our lives, not just today, okay, but a
year from now, two years from now. Much of what
he's been talking about is just now playing out right,

(28:40):
and so you are really ahead of the curve when
you're watching his show. I really appreciate him, and I
hope you do too, and we'll show your support to
him because he does give voices a chance. He took
a chance on me, okay, and like doctor Wood, he
has greatly expanded my beach.