December 18, 2025 • 27 mins
Gold & Silver Break Out as Debt, AI, and Government Control Collide
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jruemmy. Now is Michael Winer as gold? Is that four thousand,
three hundred and forty dollars an ounce? Silver is at
almost well, it's at sixty six dollars and twenty eight cents.
Over sixty six dollars an ounce. Michael Winer, welcome back
to the broadcast. Thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good evening, Brown, How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm great, Thank you so much. All right, tell me, Michael,
what does this mean? Silver at sixty six dollars and
twenty two cents? What do you make of this?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well? With silver right now? What's really going on is
the fact that's been over sold for a long time.
We've been lied to by our own government. We've been
lied to by the banks, We've been lied to by
the mines. And what they're finding out right now is
there isn't any we're finding out the United States government's
declared silver to be a critical medal.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So you're telling me there's a shortage of silver.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Absolutely. The United States government two and a half months
ago declared sober to be a critical metal, which means
there is enough. And the problem is is that silver
usage a part of industrially is huge, especially all these
data centers putting in what do you think they're going
to use in all these data centers, Just like they're
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using the solar entergy, they're gonna be using a lot
of silver. And the bottom line is they don't have enough.
And they're literally two factions. There's one faction that I
was looking at it financially, there's another faction that's looking
at it physically. And that conundrum is creating a huge
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problem within the marketplace. That's why I predicted, you know,
it's going to hit sixty over sixty before the end
of the year. And here we are, I'm predicting literally
by the first order of next year, we're going to
be close to seventy five dollars, and by the end
of the year, silver could become the new copper literally
And for the people to understand, copper back in the
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Stone Age, as Brandon said, when I was around, silver,
copper was some I could sell a copper contract ten
thousand pound copper contract in nineteen seventy nine for seven
hundred dollars ten thousand pounds seven cents a pound. Now worse,
copper four dollars and fifty sixty cents. Whatever silver is
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going to become that way because of the fact that
it's been critical and we have been lied to. Just
like so many things going on right now, it's misinformation.
I couldn't be more upset than I am about the
misinformation that's coming up about this year by the industry
and by the government and by excuse me, the suppliers.
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And that's not just on silver. I'm talking and the
stocks and mutual funds, bonds, money, everything. It's so at
the year end lies, That's what I call it.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, So what do you say to those who are
saying that silver has decoupled from gold? What would you
agree and what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think silver has never been really coupled to go.
I think there's a lot of missi misstatements. You know,
understand the fact the last big drop in silver was
in twenty eleven November, right after Thanksgiving. Now, the gold
market went down twenty five percent, Silver went down almost
eighty percent. They've always been on their own, the only
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but you had silver dragging gold for a while because
of the fact that the people manipulating it. It's not
just the minors, it's not just the banks, it's not
just the technology firms. Guess who else it is the
people that salvage silver. They don't throw things away that
have silver in it, They salvage it. And the salvage
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industry is huge in silver, so there's so many fingers
in the pot. And on top of that, that keeps
it private. But it has been suppressed by banks, by governments,
and now that's coming on its own. I'm not saying
silver is the next gold. I will never believe that
because silver is an industrial metal fifty to fifty industrial,
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fifty percent monetary. Gold is all monetary right now, gold
is money. But the big issue that we see next
year going on with silver is all these data centers
they're going to be building in the United States. They've
got all this money, let alone outside of the UNICE
where are they gonna get this silver? And then you got
China jumping on trying to buy some of it. And
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then we go into the technology militarily and all the
AI changes, all involving new equipment, all involving silver. So
silver is going to be very, very highly used. I'm
like I said, ninety to one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, ninety two one hundred dollars by win end of
next year, end of next year. Okay, So the sixty
fifty dollars was the high we had to get back to, right, Yes,
we're beyond that. So now we're at sixty seven, So
anything's beyond fifty fifty broke the record we had hit
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back to fifty. Now we're just we're going into territory
we've never been before. Absolutely, same with gold too, right
they with gold.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean when we sat there, we sat here last
January and you and I were on at the beginning
of the year, and so gold was twenty four to
twenty five hundred dollars, and I said, Brandon's gold is
going to be three thousand by March, and you go,
it's you can replay the show. You're going kidding And
I said, no, I'm not. And it hit three thousand
by the middle of March. It's going to be the
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same thing this year. By the middle of March, you're
going to see gold somewhere around forty eight hundred, heading
close to five thousand. I think that there's a lot
of factors monetarily that are going to go on effect
with the Genius Act that will have a positive effect
on silver too. So they're going to play off each
other some much. I guess it's going to really really
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play on each other. And I think that silver will
be actually supported at times that the manipulators try to
go in by the strength of the gold market, because
they can't manipulate gold anymore. Gold is on its own.
Gold is a monetary instrument. That's why Jamie Diamond and
that's why our dear front moynihan from b of A
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predicts six thousand dollars gold next year. But these comments
that are being made that everything's great in the country
and we've got the greatest of this and with the
hottest country in the world. The problem is is that
the people in the middle don't feel it. It's not
speaking to us. You might be speaking to some guy
in Qatar, but it's not working with me. Okay. I
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need to see some real relief when I see the
unemployment rate go up as it did yesterday, When I
see the terriffs still not decided and creating prices that
still have a problem. You know, when I see Basan
going on TV telling us that everything's going to be great,
it's going to be av caacular year, that's not putting
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money in my pocket. Right now, and that's what's bothering
the Americans, and that's why Trump's favorability rating is below
forty right now because of the fact that people aren't
buying it and this effect that's why gold is going
to be so strong, because the Democrats are also going
to attack on that. We've got another factor next year,
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and that is the socialist communist attacking and who cares
if it's one party, but this other party doesn't want
to even have America. They want to have a one party,
one monetary global system. That's all going to feed into this,
and that's why it's so important for people who are
benign paying attention to turn on the TV and turn
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on the lights upstairs in their heads and say, you
know what, I've got to be one dimensional. I've got
to put things in my pocket. I've got to put
things in my control that I control, because you've got
a stand. These people in Washington are the ones controlling
your money. They're the ones really can sit back and
lock you out of your dollars with a snap of
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your fingers. But if you own gold and you control
it physically or even in your IRA, the government doesn't
you do what sounds better. You tell me I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Done, Yeah, you tell me, all right, So the data
centers all need silver. There's not enough silver above the ground.
And how long will it take these miners to dig
it out of the ground, mint it and get it
to the production going for the AI data centers? And
then the other I mean, isn't silver used in like
twelve hundred plus applications in dust? I mean there's silver
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in your computers, your your cell phone, your I think
even in your windshield.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Is the analytic converters. Catalytic converters understand the fact that
it's not going to be fast enough. They'll get more
silver out of the salvage market than they'll get it
out of here. There's a company called Unicor in the
federal prison system and there's some of the facilities there.
My son, who've worked in the government, told me these
guys all they do is break down old computers and
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pull whatever silver is out of it. Literally, right now,
silver is a critical medal. And I'll make this prediction
by the middle of next year, gold will be declared
a critical medal. It's just where are they going to
get it from. It's not something that's in abundance. Right now.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Are you ever worried about confiscation if it's such a
critical medal for the government.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Absolutely? Really, That's why you and I talk about absolutely
because if the Democrats get involved and then with this country,
they're the ones that made it illegal for forty years.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So goal, what did that create? I mean, do you
think the American people are going to agree to give
it back?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
They didn't agree before. I mean, look at what when
somebody says something's not possible in this country, think about it.
We had this country in nineteen thirty three. They casually
shut down the banks, They locked the doors and put
a sign on the window that said bank holiday, and
what did you do? Bang on the door? They still
didn't let you in. And then in nineteen seventy one,
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Nixon illegally took us off the gold standard, and our
money went from we talked about it last week, went
from being worth something to being worth nothing. You went
the day before that happened, they had to pay you
in silver or gold. The next day they gave you
a ticket to the men's room. You had nothing. You
have paper. So when people talk about digital currency, theoretically
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you're dealing with monopoly money, right now it doesn't matter,
but the gold is something you physically could control and
manage on your own. But you know understand the fact
that to democrats, if they turn around and do this,
That's why a good percentage of the gold that you
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control is numismatic, because that same law allows people to
own collectible medal. And that goes back to the nineteen thirties.
There was a guy named Harry Helmsley and before your time, Brandon,
I know you know. Leonora Helmsley was his famous wife
who went to prison for tax evasion. There was a
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billionaire who went to prison for tax evasion and her
husband died. Harry was partners with a guy named Eliason
who in the thirties, the two of them bought the
Chrysler building and some of the money they used to
pay for it was collectible coins, and they tried to
dispute it still work, so this is tried and true.
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That's why we tell people to try to keep some
of the collectible coins in their possession, make some of
the collectible coins something that they hold, because it's the
one thing that is totally vanilla. It's just like I
told you the story about the gentleman who came here
from California and he lives here now, and we talked.
I see him usually once a month because he buys
every month. Right now. It's just like a savings playing down.
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And at the end of the day, he just loves
the story about how we got to check for five
hundred and some thousand. He didn't have to turn off
a blood type to make it happen. You know, it's
amazing if you go into a hospital and check in.
And I had a client of mine as a worldview client,
and I'll share this with the people out there who
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wonder about California. Right now. This was today today I
talked to him. He called me because he wanted to
take advantage of the year end specials on goal that
we have with the state liquidations. And he says to me, Michael,
I was robbed outside the bank right at a right
on the curve. I was parked my car. They watched me.
When they came out, they hit me on the head,
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grabbed my envelope with my money in it, and ran away.
I called nine to one one in Los Angeles, sat
there for thirty four minutes waiting for a callback for
nine to one one. He called him four times. Finally
he got in the car and drove to the police station,
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and the policemen told him, you're probably better going to
get a get a an EMT person by just go
to the hospital. We can't get him here that fast.
And he said, what about my money? What about there's
cameras out there? He said, we were not going to
have time for that. That's life. And he turned around
said I'm moving out of here. I don't feel safe.
How can I feel safe when I can't even be
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protected literally to get a police officer to come help
me when I'm robbed.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Nope, you can't come up. Yep, let's go to Ascent.
The Treasury secretary on the Trump accounts. Want to know
what you think about these Trump accounts. Here we go.
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Here is the Secretary of the Treasurer.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Make young Americans wealthy.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
All right, let's get it. Let's get it again. Make
young Americans wealthy again.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Huh, Make young Americans wealthy. The S and P has
grown at a rate of ten point five percent each
year on average since the nineteen fifties. Assuming that growth
rate continues, a single one thousand dollars deposit into a
Trump account at birth will grow to over six hundred
thousand dollars by the age of retirement. Our president is
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putting the American dream within reach of every citizen, no
matter the circumstances of birth. When young Americans turn twenty eight,
they can use their Trump accounts to keep saving for
their retirement, or they can use them to purchase a
home or further their education, two hall marks of the
American dream. Trump accounts will benefit from the compound growth
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of Treasury's initial seed funding, but they can also benefit
from outside donations. Starting on July fourth, our nation's two
hundred and fifty fiftieth anniversary, parents, family members, employers, and
friends will be able to contribute up to five thousand
dollars to each Trump account each year. By contributing the
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maximum amount each year, the Council of Economic Advisors estimates
that a child's Trump account would be worth more than
a million dollars by the time they turn twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
We for great and you can buy a car because
that's about what a car will cost you a million dollars.
I'm not buying this Treasury Sector percent just reveal the
Trump accounts can grow to over six hundred thousand dollars
by retirement. This is genius, okay, But since as he believes,
employers will offer matching contributions to Trump accounts as well.
The long game, this is really how it's done. The
presence putting America and dream with written reach of very American.
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You know, if if the inflation rate continues for the
next thirty years what it has been the last thirty years,
I think I read not too long ago that the
average house would be like one point six eight one
point six million dollars. You know, a car is going
to cost you two hundred thousand, So I know this
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sounds great, but I'm really not for the government coming
up with all these ideas to try to supposedly create
wealth for the What I am for is for the
cutting the tax rate cutting regulation, getting rid of the
scam of the Social Security tax we have to pay,
and let us invest, and let them invest their own
money and their own business whatever. I'm not buying this,
(16:45):
I'm really not. I mean, when the government shows up
and says I'm here to help you, what did Ronald
Reagan say? That's scary, right, And so they're going to
try to make you rich. Well, good luck, you got
six hundred thousand dollars under inflation, you'll be luckily to
buy a Hamburger.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, you know, the big problem with the thing is
they don't talk about the exec strategy. It's just like
the same sales pitch they did in the thirties when
they created Social Security. The problem is what did the
government do to Social Security? They borrow all the money
every week. So do you honestly believe that if they
start putting away this money and those guys in Congress.
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Oh well, there's about twenty billion sitting there on those
accounts for those kids. Will just give it to them
in their Social Security account. They will find a way
to get their hands on it, just the way they
got it too. Socials. Do you think I trust them?
I don't. If my comment would be, you want to
give it to the American people, let the parents run
that account, that's right, the government. Why does the government
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have to run that You don't trust us, That's what
they're saying. They're saying, the government of parents will spend it.
You want to know what my answer to that is,
let them spend it. If you're going to give it
to the children, let the parents manage the account. But
as long as the government's managing it, and all due respect,
the founders were right. They put us under the gold
standards so these idiots couldn't spend more money than they
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had golden Ford knocks. We went off of that in
seventy one, and from nineteen seventy one to now thirty
eight trillion with a t in debt, and guess what,
do you honestly think they're going to be able to
pay it back? The only way they can do that
is by devaluing. Do you think when they start building
up a big block of cash that they're going to
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sit back and not dip their little fingers in it?
Every single time it's there, they dip their fingers in it,
They borrow against it, they spend it. So to me,
the only solution for something like this, and I liked
the idea at first was I thought they were giving
it to us. I didn't think they were going to
have something else they controlled. How many people know what's
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in their Social Security account? And how many people really
understand that you don't control it. They do. You don't
have access to it. They do. You don't even sit
back and have the ability to leave it to your family.
They do. And like myself, your better half passes away
too early, you don't get anything. So you know, that's
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a big reason why they did Obamacare. They wanted us
to die, the older people to die, so that way
they can get our social Security money. Understand, really what's
going on here is when we look at Social Security,
they're trying to nationalize the retirement plans. Obama tried it
in twenty twelve, Biden's tried it. They called it a
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GRP government retirement program. And what they want to do
is take up all of these sixty to eighty trillion
dollars in retirement dollars and then issue you Treasury credit
into your Social Security account. And guess what, mister Smith,
You're going to get a bigger check. But you have
no access to the money, You have no beneficiaries, you
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have nothing. It's just government, big brother. And that's why
Reagan created gold iras because he wanted people to own
something in their retirement plan that the government did not have.
Says too, gold iras different than paper iras. They can't
get it. They got to take you to court, They
got to emancipate. It gives you freedom to do things
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while they try to take it right if they want
to grab up paper assets. Like I told you, in
thirty three they locked the bank, and seventy one they
shut down the count They didn't shut down the country
at all. They just made your money worthless. And in
nineteen in March twenty twenty, when Mark Trump shut the
golf country down, what happened? You couldn't get to your
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bank or your ATM machine. Did you have a vote?
Did you have a choice. No, that's why you control
your assets and physical ideas like gold, gold, iras gold
physical and you know, you keep drinking the kool aid
like they're selling right now for the year end. All
these geniuses. Oh, it's going to be a factacular twenty
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twenty six. We're all going to make money. Yeah, they're
going to make money. You're darn right, win or lose,
they will make money. You won't.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, because of this headline, Federal Reserve withdraws twenty twenty
three guidance blocking uninsured banks from crypto. Uh, that sounds dangerous.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That sounds like a great way for banks to go
gambling on crypto and then oops, where the money.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Giving them a it's giving them a gateway to just
do play with your money. And at the end of
the day, that's why they have bailan, which is another
week to go on and on. And with these situations,
what world what worldview would and this isn't I'm not
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truth and what they preach to you at world Besides
what we're talking about with gold, what they try to
tell you to do is be self reliant.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's right with that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
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We at Swiss America. It's like I'm talking to somebody
right now. It's one of the people that worked through
with this. We don't charge you for ongoing information. We
don't charge you for guidance on what you should do.
But I've got a client, Worldview client right now. It's
been dealing with me. God, since Brandon and I've been together,
and we've literally sat back and built up for his
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retirement literally a two and a half million dollar profit
in eighteen years, two and a half double the money, Okay,
And it wasn't We both say it was never about
making money. It was always about security. He's secured, he's
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financially set, and he controls his retirement, not Charles Schwaut and.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Not a bank and not a bank who decided to
go play the crypto. The fell Reserve is announced with
draw of his twenty twenty three guidance that effectively prevented
uninsured banks from becoming members of the FELL Reserve system
and engaging in cryptocurrency activities. This guidance was a key
factor in the fed's previous denial of a master account
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to a Custodia bank, a financial institution seeking to integrate
crypto services. The move marks a significant shift in the
FED stamps on the involvement of uninsured banks in the
crypto sector, potentially opening new opportunities for these institutions. But yeah,
can we talk about the risk right, the risk right, Michael.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's extremely risky. But they don't care. It's just
like you know, when they're talking about the situation with
the with the various different types of things that they
offer at the banks that they have right now that
legitimately are way over sold and not covered, and nobody cares.
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Nobody bothers with it. They let them get away with it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
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Year, I don't. I think there might be a many
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Jruemmy. Now is Michael Winer as gold? Is that four thousand,
three hundred and forty dollars an ounce? Silver is at
almost well, it's at sixty six dollars and twenty eight cents.
Over sixty six dollars an ounce. Michael Winer, welcome back
to the broadcast. Thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good evening, Brown, How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm great, Thank you so much. All right, tell me, Michael,
what does this mean? Silver at sixty six dollars and
twenty two cents? What do you make of this?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well? With silver right now? What's really going on is
the fact that's been over sold for a long time.
We've been lied to by our own government. We've been
lied to by the banks, We've been lied to by
the mines. And what they're finding out right now is
there isn't any we're finding out the United States government's
declared silver to be a critical medal.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So you're telling me there's a shortage of silver.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Absolutely. The United States government two and a half months
ago declared sober to be a critical metal, which means
there is enough. And the problem is is that silver
usage a part of industrially is huge, especially all these
data centers putting in what do you think they're going
to use in all these data centers, Just like they're
(01:18):
using the solar entergy, they're gonna be using a lot
of silver. And the bottom line is they don't have enough.
And they're literally two factions. There's one faction that I
was looking at it financially, there's another faction that's looking
at it physically. And that conundrum is creating a huge
(01:39):
problem within the marketplace. That's why I predicted, you know,
it's going to hit sixty over sixty before the end
of the year. And here we are, I'm predicting literally
by the first order of next year, we're going to
be close to seventy five dollars, and by the end
of the year, silver could become the new copper literally
And for the people to understand, copper back in the
(02:00):
Stone Age, as Brandon said, when I was around, silver,
copper was some I could sell a copper contract ten
thousand pound copper contract in nineteen seventy nine for seven
hundred dollars ten thousand pounds seven cents a pound. Now worse,
copper four dollars and fifty sixty cents. Whatever silver is
(02:22):
going to become that way because of the fact that
it's been critical and we have been lied to. Just
like so many things going on right now, it's misinformation.
I couldn't be more upset than I am about the
misinformation that's coming up about this year by the industry
and by the government and by excuse me, the suppliers.
(02:44):
And that's not just on silver. I'm talking and the
stocks and mutual funds, bonds, money, everything. It's so at
the year end lies, That's what I call it.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, So what do you say to those who are
saying that silver has decoupled from gold? What would you
agree and what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think silver has never been really coupled to go.
I think there's a lot of missi misstatements. You know,
understand the fact the last big drop in silver was
in twenty eleven November, right after Thanksgiving. Now, the gold
market went down twenty five percent, Silver went down almost
eighty percent. They've always been on their own, the only
(03:23):
but you had silver dragging gold for a while because
of the fact that the people manipulating it. It's not
just the minors, it's not just the banks, it's not
just the technology firms. Guess who else it is the
people that salvage silver. They don't throw things away that
have silver in it, They salvage it. And the salvage
(03:46):
industry is huge in silver, so there's so many fingers
in the pot. And on top of that, that keeps
it private. But it has been suppressed by banks, by governments,
and now that's coming on its own. I'm not saying
silver is the next gold. I will never believe that
because silver is an industrial metal fifty to fifty industrial,
(04:10):
fifty percent monetary. Gold is all monetary right now, gold
is money. But the big issue that we see next
year going on with silver is all these data centers
they're going to be building in the United States. They've
got all this money, let alone outside of the UNICE
where are they gonna get this silver? And then you got
China jumping on trying to buy some of it. And
(04:32):
then we go into the technology militarily and all the
AI changes, all involving new equipment, all involving silver. So
silver is going to be very, very highly used. I'm
like I said, ninety to one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, ninety two one hundred dollars by win end of
next year, end of next year. Okay, So the sixty
fifty dollars was the high we had to get back to, right, Yes,
we're beyond that. So now we're at sixty seven, So
anything's beyond fifty fifty broke the record we had hit
(05:06):
back to fifty. Now we're just we're going into territory
we've never been before. Absolutely, same with gold too, right
they with gold.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean when we sat there, we sat here last
January and you and I were on at the beginning
of the year, and so gold was twenty four to
twenty five hundred dollars, and I said, Brandon's gold is
going to be three thousand by March, and you go,
it's you can replay the show. You're going kidding And
I said, no, I'm not. And it hit three thousand
by the middle of March. It's going to be the
(05:34):
same thing this year. By the middle of March, you're
going to see gold somewhere around forty eight hundred, heading
close to five thousand. I think that there's a lot
of factors monetarily that are going to go on effect
with the Genius Act that will have a positive effect
on silver too. So they're going to play off each
other some much. I guess it's going to really really
(05:57):
play on each other. And I think that silver will
be actually supported at times that the manipulators try to
go in by the strength of the gold market, because
they can't manipulate gold anymore. Gold is on its own.
Gold is a monetary instrument. That's why Jamie Diamond and
that's why our dear front moynihan from b of A
(06:18):
predicts six thousand dollars gold next year. But these comments
that are being made that everything's great in the country
and we've got the greatest of this and with the
hottest country in the world. The problem is is that
the people in the middle don't feel it. It's not
speaking to us. You might be speaking to some guy
in Qatar, but it's not working with me. Okay. I
(06:41):
need to see some real relief when I see the
unemployment rate go up as it did yesterday, When I
see the terriffs still not decided and creating prices that
still have a problem. You know, when I see Basan
going on TV telling us that everything's going to be great,
it's going to be av caacular year, that's not putting
(07:02):
money in my pocket. Right now, and that's what's bothering
the Americans, and that's why Trump's favorability rating is below
forty right now because of the fact that people aren't
buying it and this effect that's why gold is going
to be so strong, because the Democrats are also going
to attack on that. We've got another factor next year,
(07:25):
and that is the socialist communist attacking and who cares
if it's one party, but this other party doesn't want
to even have America. They want to have a one party,
one monetary global system. That's all going to feed into this,
and that's why it's so important for people who are
benign paying attention to turn on the TV and turn
(07:48):
on the lights upstairs in their heads and say, you
know what, I've got to be one dimensional. I've got
to put things in my pocket. I've got to put
things in my control that I control, because you've got
a stand. These people in Washington are the ones controlling
your money. They're the ones really can sit back and
lock you out of your dollars with a snap of
(08:09):
your fingers. But if you own gold and you control
it physically or even in your IRA, the government doesn't
you do what sounds better. You tell me I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Done, Yeah, you tell me, all right, So the data
centers all need silver. There's not enough silver above the ground.
And how long will it take these miners to dig
it out of the ground, mint it and get it
to the production going for the AI data centers? And
then the other I mean, isn't silver used in like
twelve hundred plus applications in dust? I mean there's silver
(08:44):
in your computers, your your cell phone, your I think
even in your windshield.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Is the analytic converters. Catalytic converters understand the fact that
it's not going to be fast enough. They'll get more
silver out of the salvage market than they'll get it
out of here. There's a company called Unicor in the
federal prison system and there's some of the facilities there.
My son, who've worked in the government, told me these
guys all they do is break down old computers and
(09:11):
pull whatever silver is out of it. Literally, right now,
silver is a critical medal. And I'll make this prediction
by the middle of next year, gold will be declared
a critical medal. It's just where are they going to
get it from. It's not something that's in abundance. Right now.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Are you ever worried about confiscation if it's such a
critical medal for the government.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Absolutely? Really, That's why you and I talk about absolutely
because if the Democrats get involved and then with this country,
they're the ones that made it illegal for forty years.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So goal, what did that create? I mean, do you
think the American people are going to agree to give
it back?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
They didn't agree before. I mean, look at what when
somebody says something's not possible in this country, think about it.
We had this country in nineteen thirty three. They casually
shut down the banks, They locked the doors and put
a sign on the window that said bank holiday, and
what did you do? Bang on the door? They still
didn't let you in. And then in nineteen seventy one,
(10:14):
Nixon illegally took us off the gold standard, and our
money went from we talked about it last week, went
from being worth something to being worth nothing. You went
the day before that happened, they had to pay you
in silver or gold. The next day they gave you
a ticket to the men's room. You had nothing. You
have paper. So when people talk about digital currency, theoretically
(10:35):
you're dealing with monopoly money, right now it doesn't matter,
but the gold is something you physically could control and
manage on your own. But you know understand the fact
that to democrats, if they turn around and do this,
That's why a good percentage of the gold that you
(10:55):
control is numismatic, because that same law allows people to
own collectible medal. And that goes back to the nineteen thirties.
There was a guy named Harry Helmsley and before your time, Brandon,
I know you know. Leonora Helmsley was his famous wife
who went to prison for tax evasion. There was a
(11:15):
billionaire who went to prison for tax evasion and her
husband died. Harry was partners with a guy named Eliason
who in the thirties, the two of them bought the
Chrysler building and some of the money they used to
pay for it was collectible coins, and they tried to
dispute it still work, so this is tried and true.
(11:36):
That's why we tell people to try to keep some
of the collectible coins in their possession, make some of
the collectible coins something that they hold, because it's the
one thing that is totally vanilla. It's just like I
told you the story about the gentleman who came here
from California and he lives here now, and we talked.
I see him usually once a month because he buys
every month. Right now. It's just like a savings playing down.
(11:59):
And at the end of the day, he just loves
the story about how we got to check for five
hundred and some thousand. He didn't have to turn off
a blood type to make it happen. You know, it's
amazing if you go into a hospital and check in.
And I had a client of mine as a worldview client,
and I'll share this with the people out there who
(12:19):
wonder about California. Right now. This was today today I
talked to him. He called me because he wanted to
take advantage of the year end specials on goal that
we have with the state liquidations. And he says to me, Michael,
I was robbed outside the bank right at a right
on the curve. I was parked my car. They watched me.
When they came out, they hit me on the head,
(12:41):
grabbed my envelope with my money in it, and ran away.
I called nine to one one in Los Angeles, sat
there for thirty four minutes waiting for a callback for
nine to one one. He called him four times. Finally
he got in the car and drove to the police station,
(13:02):
and the policemen told him, you're probably better going to
get a get a an EMT person by just go
to the hospital. We can't get him here that fast.
And he said, what about my money? What about there's
cameras out there? He said, we were not going to
have time for that. That's life. And he turned around
said I'm moving out of here. I don't feel safe.
How can I feel safe when I can't even be
(13:24):
protected literally to get a police officer to come help
me when I'm robbed.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Nope, you can't come up. Yep, let's go to Ascent.
The Treasury secretary on the Trump accounts. Want to know
what you think about these Trump accounts. Here we go.
Listen up. I need to plug it in. I guess
the cord for this is on the ground, guys, so
if someone wants to come grab the cord, I'll plug
it in. In the meantime, you want the free packet of
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I don't even know what it is. One eight sixty
six seven three eight three two two No, it's one
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it up there. I have too many numbers one eight seven, seven,
eighty six four, ten seventy two. I just needed to
get me started one eight seven, seven, eight six four,
ten seventy two or worldviewgoal dot com. All right, thank you, logan.
Here is the Secretary of the Treasurer.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Make young Americans wealthy.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
All right, let's get it. Let's get it again. Make
young Americans wealthy again.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Huh, Make young Americans wealthy. The S and P has
grown at a rate of ten point five percent each
year on average since the nineteen fifties. Assuming that growth
rate continues, a single one thousand dollars deposit into a
Trump account at birth will grow to over six hundred
thousand dollars by the age of retirement. Our president is
(14:43):
putting the American dream within reach of every citizen, no
matter the circumstances of birth. When young Americans turn twenty eight,
they can use their Trump accounts to keep saving for
their retirement, or they can use them to purchase a
home or further their education, two hall marks of the
American dream. Trump accounts will benefit from the compound growth
(15:06):
of Treasury's initial seed funding, but they can also benefit
from outside donations. Starting on July fourth, our nation's two
hundred and fifty fiftieth anniversary, parents, family members, employers, and
friends will be able to contribute up to five thousand
dollars to each Trump account each year. By contributing the
(15:28):
maximum amount each year, the Council of Economic Advisors estimates
that a child's Trump account would be worth more than
a million dollars by the time they turn twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
We for great and you can buy a car because
that's about what a car will cost you a million dollars.
I'm not buying this Treasury Sector percent just reveal the
Trump accounts can grow to over six hundred thousand dollars
by retirement. This is genius, okay, But since as he believes,
employers will offer matching contributions to Trump accounts as well.
The long game, this is really how it's done. The
presence putting America and dream with written reach of very American.
(16:02):
You know, if if the inflation rate continues for the
next thirty years what it has been the last thirty years,
I think I read not too long ago that the
average house would be like one point six eight one
point six million dollars. You know, a car is going
to cost you two hundred thousand, So I know this
(16:23):
sounds great, but I'm really not for the government coming
up with all these ideas to try to supposedly create
wealth for the What I am for is for the
cutting the tax rate cutting regulation, getting rid of the
scam of the Social Security tax we have to pay,
and let us invest, and let them invest their own
money and their own business whatever. I'm not buying this,
(16:45):
I'm really not. I mean, when the government shows up
and says I'm here to help you, what did Ronald
Reagan say? That's scary, right, And so they're going to
try to make you rich. Well, good luck, you got
six hundred thousand dollars under inflation, you'll be luckily to
buy a Hamburger.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, you know, the big problem with the thing is
they don't talk about the exec strategy. It's just like
the same sales pitch they did in the thirties when
they created Social Security. The problem is what did the
government do to Social Security? They borrow all the money
every week. So do you honestly believe that if they
start putting away this money and those guys in Congress.
(17:18):
Oh well, there's about twenty billion sitting there on those
accounts for those kids. Will just give it to them
in their Social Security account. They will find a way
to get their hands on it, just the way they
got it too. Socials. Do you think I trust them?
I don't. If my comment would be, you want to
give it to the American people, let the parents run
that account, that's right, the government. Why does the government
(17:42):
have to run that You don't trust us, That's what
they're saying. They're saying, the government of parents will spend it.
You want to know what my answer to that is,
let them spend it. If you're going to give it
to the children, let the parents manage the account. But
as long as the government's managing it, and all due respect,
the founders were right. They put us under the gold
standards so these idiots couldn't spend more money than they
(18:03):
had golden Ford knocks. We went off of that in
seventy one, and from nineteen seventy one to now thirty
eight trillion with a t in debt, and guess what,
do you honestly think they're going to be able to
pay it back? The only way they can do that
is by devaluing. Do you think when they start building
up a big block of cash that they're going to
(18:23):
sit back and not dip their little fingers in it?
Every single time it's there, they dip their fingers in it,
They borrow against it, they spend it. So to me,
the only solution for something like this, and I liked
the idea at first was I thought they were giving
it to us. I didn't think they were going to
have something else they controlled. How many people know what's
(18:45):
in their Social Security account? And how many people really
understand that you don't control it. They do. You don't
have access to it. They do. You don't even sit
back and have the ability to leave it to your family.
They do. And like myself, your better half passes away
too early, you don't get anything. So you know, that's
(19:05):
a big reason why they did Obamacare. They wanted us
to die, the older people to die, so that way
they can get our social Security money. Understand, really what's
going on here is when we look at Social Security,
they're trying to nationalize the retirement plans. Obama tried it
in twenty twelve, Biden's tried it. They called it a
(19:27):
GRP government retirement program. And what they want to do
is take up all of these sixty to eighty trillion
dollars in retirement dollars and then issue you Treasury credit
into your Social Security account. And guess what, mister Smith,
You're going to get a bigger check. But you have
no access to the money, You have no beneficiaries, you
(19:47):
have nothing. It's just government, big brother. And that's why
Reagan created gold iras because he wanted people to own
something in their retirement plan that the government did not have.
Says too, gold iras different than paper iras. They can't
get it. They got to take you to court, They
got to emancipate. It gives you freedom to do things
(20:09):
while they try to take it right if they want
to grab up paper assets. Like I told you, in
thirty three they locked the bank, and seventy one they
shut down the count They didn't shut down the country
at all. They just made your money worthless. And in
nineteen in March twenty twenty, when Mark Trump shut the
golf country down, what happened? You couldn't get to your
(20:29):
bank or your ATM machine. Did you have a vote?
Did you have a choice. No, that's why you control
your assets and physical ideas like gold, gold, iras gold
physical and you know, you keep drinking the kool aid
like they're selling right now for the year end. All
these geniuses. Oh, it's going to be a factacular twenty
(20:50):
twenty six. We're all going to make money. Yeah, they're
going to make money. You're darn right, win or lose,
they will make money. You won't.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, because of this headline, Federal Reserve withdraws twenty twenty
three guidance blocking uninsured banks from crypto. Uh, that sounds dangerous.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That sounds like a great way for banks to go
gambling on crypto and then oops, where the money.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Giving them a it's giving them a gateway to just
do play with your money. And at the end of
the day, that's why they have bailan, which is another
week to go on and on. And with these situations,
what world what worldview would and this isn't I'm not
selling worldview right here right now. It's one of the
world's only this country's only venue where you're getting the
(21:41):
truth and what they preach to you at world Besides
what we're talking about with gold, what they try to
tell you to do is be self reliant.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's right with that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Froms of food, be it with your phones, be it
with all the products and things that they put together
for you. Are all about independence. That's it's all about
self reliance. And that's what we have to get behind
and support for Worldview at all times because it's one
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(22:11):
We at Swiss America. It's like I'm talking to somebody
right now. It's one of the people that worked through
with this. We don't charge you for ongoing information. We
don't charge you for guidance on what you should do.
But I've got a client, Worldview client right now. It's
been dealing with me. God, since Brandon and I've been together,
and we've literally sat back and built up for his
(22:32):
retirement literally a two and a half million dollar profit
in eighteen years, two and a half double the money, Okay,
And it wasn't We both say it was never about
making money. It was always about security. He's secured, he's
(22:53):
financially set, and he controls his retirement, not Charles Schwaut and.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Not a bank and not a bank who decided to
go play the crypto. The fell Reserve is announced with
draw of his twenty twenty three guidance that effectively prevented
uninsured banks from becoming members of the FELL Reserve system
and engaging in cryptocurrency activities. This guidance was a key
factor in the fed's previous denial of a master account
(23:18):
to a Custodia bank, a financial institution seeking to integrate
crypto services. The move marks a significant shift in the
FED stamps on the involvement of uninsured banks in the
crypto sector, potentially opening new opportunities for these institutions. But yeah,
can we talk about the risk right, the risk right, Michael.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's extremely risky. But they don't care. It's just
like you know, when they're talking about the situation with
the with the various different types of things that they
offer at the banks that they have right now that
legitimately are way over sold and not covered, and nobody cares.
(24:00):
Nobody bothers with it. They let them get away with it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
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Speaker 2 (24:28):
Year, I don't. I think there might be a many
so many bumps. But right now, these idiots in Washington
are screwing things up so bad it's making it very
difficult to have it. And I have clients asking me,
we're going to get a correction, So I said, so, well, okay,
let's say it drops one hundred dollars. Is that going
to make your day? I mean, we're not in this
for day trading. If you're going to do that, go
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buy an option. If I'm not that guy, we're long term.
I mean when we bought and we talked in January,
I think it was twenty four eighty or something. I
went down to twenty two hundred and then went straight up.
You can't. We're not these wheelers and dealers. We're stability people.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
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It arrived today, I asked, And it had some beautiful
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saw on the I can't remember now, but it pears.
I love pears. I said. It was a well known company.
I said, soh, who is this from? Is it safe
to eat this? And she said, and my wife said,
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first of all, it's from this company. They packed it up.
This is a eruptible company. And then I said, well,
who is it from? And so she dug through there
and finally it's from Michael Weiner. I said, oh, it's
definitely not safe to eat. Oh no, I said, it's
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Speaker 2 (26:04):
We gave those. We gave that to the former Secretary
of the Treasury. She got them all.
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That's right, the mushrooms on my word.
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other stuff in there. I can't remember what else was
in there. Logan met oh, some me, some salami. I
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There's lots of stuff.
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.