Propaganda, PsyOps & the Death of American Consensus

Propaganda, PsyOps & the Death of American Consensus

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you know what I mean now? Is Bill Federer? Bill?
Merry Christmas?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, Merry Christmas to you. Brandon.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Let's talk a little bit about propaganda. Maybe get into
a little bit about the real meeting of Christmas, but
let's talk about propaganda. You're working on a new book
on propaganda. You know, I have my Brainwashing Part three
coming out in the new year, and then I'll release
my book on brainwashing.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
So you and I have a lot we could talk about.
But tell me about.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Your new book on propaganda and how you think it relates,
particularly with all the I don't know, should we use
the word civil war going on now within MAGA, within
the America First Movement, and within the podcast world, you know,
Candas Owens and so many others. Tucker Carlson, How is
all this fit with the topic of propaganda?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Any idea?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, Well, several threads come together. The first is marketing
of products. In the eighteen hundreds was Sears cattle and
Singer sewing machine, and they would list every detail and
you'd make an informed purchase. But in the early nineteen hundreds,
a guy named Edward Burnez invented magazine ads where you

(01:12):
would say nothing about a product, you would just make
it look like everybody's using it and keeping up with
the Joneses. And so he said, women go into a
department store and think they're buying shoes. They're not. The
shoes were picked out for them by the marketing executive,
who paid the actors to put them on, paid the
photographer to take the pictures, paid the magazines to publish it.

(01:34):
And the women see it in the magazines and figure, well,
everybody must be using it as famous actresses, and then
they buy the shoes. Crisco is another example. Nobody knew
what was in Crisco. It's a cotton seed oil in
the Deep South at Harvarst Cotton have left over these
seats that they'd mush into industrial seed oil that they'd

(01:55):
used in machinery. Nobody ate it, but somebody had the
idea of bleaching it putting these containers. And so you
go from knowing everything about a singer song machine to
nothing about a product, but you're ingesting it because you
think everybody else is using it. And so Edward Burnet's
pushed smoking cigarettes, pushed women smoking cigarettes, pushed all these

(02:17):
different things because he's the nephew of Sigmund Freud and
Freud's psychoanalysts that discovered we are social creatures. We want
to be accepted, we do not want to be rejected. Simple,
But the whole thing is based around that. And so
it would to create the impression that you think everybody

(02:39):
else is using something, and you'll want to buy it.
So the whole fashion industry is based on this. You
see other people were and you see it advertised, and
then pretty soon you want to wear it. Then people
see you inger and they want to wear and the
and so Joseph Gebels in Germany reads Edward Burnet's book
and Burnes changed the name. He wrote a book called

(03:02):
Propaganda in nineteen twenty eight, and we're a government from
the consent of the governed. But what if you could
engineer consent to the government, And so he wrote a
book called The Engineering of Consent. So if you can
sway people to buy a product, you can sway people
to buy an ideology, to buy a political platform. And

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so Joseph Gerbels Germany said, Hey, people will believe something
if they think other people believe it. So he would
get one hundred thousand people together in a stadium and
they would give the Hitler salute in the front, it
would work its way back through the crowd and like
a wave of a football game, and as it got
closer to you, you'd feel pressured to give it, and
people see you giving it, and they'd feel pressured to

(03:44):
give it, and everybody leave the stadium thinking, well, I
guess everybody's in on it because they were all given
the Hitler salute, and so it manipulated their impression of
what everybody else was believing, and then they would feel
pressured to take the same beliefs. And then you see
it injected into schools, and so they call it social

(04:07):
emotional learning or behavior modification, where the teacher would celebrate
somebody if they come out as trans or some alternative agenda,
and then they shame in front of the group of
the class somebody that holds old traditional values, and so
they embarrass them, and so all the other kids see that,

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and none of them want to be embarrassed, and so
they'll all want to gravitate toward being accepted by the teacher,
and so they'll adopt these alternative sexual agendas and it's
very effective. So the idea of marketing of products, so
that's the first thing. The second thing is the Cold War.

(04:51):
And I'll pause here if you want to inject anything.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, no, that's fascinating. So it's basically group consensus. What
do we call it, oomo? The fear of missing out
today as if they called it. So people are afraid
they're missing out right. They want to be the cool
they want to be part of the junior high cool
pizza eating table and that. I don't want to sound
elitist or anything, but the older I get, the more

(05:16):
I realize just how immature the average American adult is.
And I tell I tell the guys in the control
room that all the time. I'm like you, guys, I know,
you're in your early twenties and you look at these
people in their forties and fifties and sixties and think, oh,
they're adults.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
They're so smart, they're so mature.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I said, wait, till you get to be my age,
you'll realize that most of the people in that you
have living around you are just as immature as they
were in junior High. And there are two and three
and four marriages and multiple bankruptcies and all kinds of
troubles in their life. Proves there's still the immature kids.
They're just older. And I think this is why this

(05:54):
kind of marketing in part works and works increasingly well
in a social media driven world. We have a nation
of infantile adults. You want to jump on board, agree
with me or disagree.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, no, you're right. It's this manipulation of your perception
and wanting to fit in with a group so bad.
So that's the one thing. And then we look at
the color revolutions and so after World War two, countries
in Europe wanted to be free, and the Soviets didn't

(06:27):
like that, and so they would send KGB agents in
the countries to do what's called critical theory, where you
simply observe all the groups. It takes a while. Ethnic
groups Bosnians, Croats and Serbs, religious groups soon Issio orthodox,
economic groups, racial groups doesn't matter, and you would classify
them as victims or oppressors, have and have nots. And

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so once you identify all the groups, you would look
for the influencers of that group. You would identify these
influencers and realize that if you could influence that one person,
you could influence all the followers. And whether this is
a Hollywood actress, whether this is a music person or

(07:08):
an athlete or a politician. And so they would have
these campaigns targeting the influencers. Remember Biden invited the TikTok
influencers to the White House to push his you know,
the Ukraine war efforts. It's like, why would you have
these TikTok, Well, they're influencers. And so the Soviet tactic

(07:34):
as you would befriend them. In the nineteen fifties in Hollywood,
they would invite the movie producers and actresses to cocktail
parties and then befriend them. And then they would identify
all the friends of this influencer and they would target
the friends and if they could get the friend to
introduce them to the influencer, then they would have more

(07:57):
credibility with the influencer. I mean, this is a very
wealth thought out game plan. And then they would begin
to seed the influencer with the talking points that they
wanted them to spread through their group. The purpose of
it is division, and so you want a radical left

(08:17):
and a radical right you would identify, and so you
would influence them to spread these narratives. You would cause
the groups in the country to fight each other. You
would have them classified as the haves and the have not,
the oppressed and the oppressors. And so once you got
them to fight each other, you wanted there to be bloodshed.

(08:40):
Why because then you have mass emotion. And once the
public is in a state of mass emotion, it is
real easy to channel that. People want to blame somebody
for the killing, right, they're itching, who do I blame?
Who do I blame for this killing? And so then
they would use the influencers to hear the blame anyway

(09:02):
they wanted, and they would usually steer the blame for
the new leader of the country, and his popularity would
fall because people would believe the influencers. And as the
leader's popularity fell, then they could do a coup or
a rigged election and nobody would question it because by
this time they didn't like the leader, and they would
replace the leader with a Soviet puppet, and then the

(09:26):
violence would stop, not realizing that it was the Soviets
behind the violence in the first place. There'd be this
honeymoon period of oh, but then when the does settles,
people would realize, we just gave up our free country
and now we're satellites of the Soviet Union were behind
the Iron Curtain, and so these tactics were used and
country by country fell and Truman does nothing because he

(09:51):
thinks the United Nations that he helped form will bring
world peace. But the next president is Eisenhower. And now
we focus on Egypt. And in the nineteen fifties there
is a king flawed and he is sort of playing games.

(10:11):
He's going to side with the West, he's going to
side with the Soviet Union, but he becomes unpopular in
his country and so there's a bunch of people in
the military, led by Gamal Naser, that wants to take
him out, and the CIA helps it. It's called Project
FF and they overthrow him. And so now the CIA

(10:33):
is doing the same thing that the KGB's doing. And
we have Iran, So a little history on Iran. After
World War One, they get a secular leader who wants
to give women freedom and let him wear fashions and
let him get educated, and he's very pro West. In Iran,

(10:53):
he's the Shaw. Well, when World War two starts, the
Shaw did not kick out Germans, and so Britain and
the Soviet Union arrange a coup and overthrow the Shaw
and replace him with a guy named Mazedek, and Mazedek
plays ball for a while. But then during the Cold War,

(11:14):
Mazedek begins to flirt with siding with the Soviet Union
and he nationalizes the oil industry in Iran. Why is
that important? In nineteen oh eight, Britain formed the Anglo
Iranian Oil Company and you know it better as BP,
and so when Mazedek nationalizes it, it's basically taken over British

(11:37):
at Britain's oil fields, and so Britain has an oil shortage,
and so they appeal to Eisenhower for help, and Eisenhower
approves Project Ajax. And this is where the Secretary of State,
Allen Dallas, sends Kermit Roosevelt Junior, the grandson of Teddy Roosevelt,

(11:58):
over to Tehran and he does the KGB thing in reverse.
He divides the country into groups, and then he recruits
mobsters and gangsters and escalates it into violence, and they
attack mosques and then they co op the media, the
influencers with bribes or threats to begin to blame Mazdek

(12:20):
for all the problems. And when the people believe it enough,
they did a coup and they put Mazac in house, arrest,
locked him away for the rest of his life, and
replaced him with his Shaw's son. And then the CIA
would do the same thing in different countries, and the
KGB would do it in other countries, and so this
is called the Cold War, these proxy wars in other countries.

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And the idea is that you would go in there
and divide the country into groups, put him against each other,
and have this violence that could be blamed on the leader,
and then when the people believed the lies, then the influencers,
then they could replace the leader. Obama turned all that
inward on America. So when Allen Dallas, the CIA, when

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this became public, mostly after the Bay of Pigs fiasco,
and so Congress passed the Smith Month Act, which forbad
the government from creating media to be used on the
American public, this propaganda, this wanting to sway the public

(13:29):
in America to support these different agendas. And so everybody
knew the CIA still did it, just covertly. But then
Obama brought it back called the Smith Month Modernization Act,
which gave his government the authority to create media to
brainwash the American public to sway them. And now we

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have the beginnings of Facebook. And then Obama used this
for his Arab spring and all the social media followers
and all the countries, and they would sway them to
overthrow their pro West leaders and replace them with Muslim
Brotherhood people. And then Obama signed an executive Order twenty
fifteen using behavioral science insights for the benefit of the

(14:17):
American people. And then you read it, it's like trying
to figure out the psychological decision making process of the
public and to sway it for the sake of national security. Right,
they're doing psyops, psychological operations on the American public. And
then Obama signed the twenty sixteen Countering Foreign Propaganda and

(14:38):
Disinformation Act, which gave him the authority to decide what's
disinformation what's not, and to label all those political opponents
as enemies. You know, Catholics that are pro life, moms
that speak out at school board meetings, Right, they're the enemy.
And the same way that Obama used the IRS and
had Lowest Learner take this federal agency and turn it

(14:59):
again conservatives. They these different government agencies were now targeting conservatives.
And so what was used. There's a book Michael Waller
wrote called Big Intel how Cold War heroes became dupes
of the deep state. So during the Cold War, we

(15:20):
had people using these tactics, but it was to keep
a country from falling into the Soviet circle, right, to
keep them free. So even though they were subversive, they
were still had a good end. But Obama turned this
inward on America. And then with the ability of governments

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to track people with AI and now they do continual
polling continuously. They were releasing a story and then they
immediately know who's forwarding it to who, and who's forwarding
it to who, and then if somebody has a counter narrative,
they try to try to figure out who's initiating this
counter narrative and canceling them. And since it's all done online,

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it's really easy to do.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
And so let me ask, how how do you see
all this playing in to the civil war in Maga America?
First candis always how does all that propaganda fit destroying
a movement that was had such potential to get us
back on track? Do you with the deep state and

(16:26):
return us to a constitution republic?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Right? So midterms, the Republicans were on track to win
the midterms. Charlie was motiva about mid twenty six, right,
so Charlie was motivating young people in unprecedented ways, and
they I believe the deep state is somehow involved in

(16:51):
his killing. And then but we still have this huge
block of conservative turning point people that are being motivated,
and the Democrats are facing losing the midterms, and so
they did a syops. They targeted conservative influencers, people that
are trusted by conservative and they wanted to get people

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that could tap into the following that Charlie Kirk had.
And so they looked at people and they would co
opt them the same way that they did with Hollywood
producers during the nineteen fifties. And so they would target
these individuals and feed them stories, find out who influences

(17:35):
the influencers, right their friends, and feed them stories. And
then rather than do research and then say, OK, this
is the conclusion of our research and release it, they
do this stringing the country on what now I think
it's this person, Now, I think it's this person. Now
I think And the goal is what the goal is
to sew division, so division so that the energy of

(18:01):
the of Charlie Kirk's following can be diffused into all
kinds of other things, you know, the anti semitism, any anything.
But the goal is to divide Maga so that the
Republicans will be demotivated and lose the midterms. And then

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once the Democrats can win the midterms and put in
the king Jefferies and start impeachment trials of Trump and
start investigations, there will be a million investors. It will
kneecap the entire Trump agenda. And so when you study this,
the influencers usually don't even know they've been co opted.

(18:43):
They they their only thing is if they would sit
back and say, we're going to do uh a year's
worth of research and come up with our our conclusion
and then we'll release it to the public. But to
come up with every newt and then get in front
of a microphone and say it out that his sewing

(19:05):
division and so division. The word devil means to divide,
and so the devil's in heaven. He's sowing division in
heaven right, and it gets a third of the ages
to follow him and he's cast out. So then he's
in the garden and he sews division, and he gets
Adham to blame the Eve and Cain to kill Abel
and then he sews division with a Bimelek. Right, so

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Gideon defeats one hundred thousand Midianites, and his sons are
ruling Israel. Well, he has an illegitimate son named the Bimlek,
and he goes to sech him, and he says, is
it better for you? The sons are Gideon? Right? No,
remember also that I'm your flesh and your bone. And
so he sews division, and he kills all the sons
of Gideon. But this idea of sewing division, the British

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did it seventeen fourteen. They started a trading post in India,
turned into a trading fort, turned into them giving to
their allies and guns to people that weren't their allies
because they didn't want them buying guns from the Dutch,
and then having the Dutch get into India. So here
the British are giving guns to both sides, and then
they sort of sit back when the two sides fight

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each other and they weaken each other, and then the
British can conquer both of the weakened kingdoms real easy.
And they did this again and again until they took
over all of India. And so now we go to
the American Revolution, and the Americans and the Indians had
sort of reached an equilibrium after the French and Indian War.
But the British come in General Johnny Burgoyne, and he

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meets with the Mohawk Indians in New York and he
incites them to attack the Americans. So they're doing the
same thing. They're coming in. They're sowing this division. It's
mentioned in our declaration as one of the twenty seven
reasons that we were rebelling. It says the king has
excited domestic insurrection amongst us right by having the merciless

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savages of the frontier butcher you know, our settlements, and
so you see this tactic. It happened again in the
War of eighteen twelve. The British and Pensacola, Florida went
up to the Red Stick Creek Indians, and you know
the pronunciation of red Stick in French, it's baton rouge.

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And so the front the British go to the Indians
and promise some money for scalps. And so the Indians
attacked Fort Mims, Alabama. It's an American fort, and they
captured it and they proceed to Scalp five hundred and
fifty people because they want the scalps to bring to
the British so they can get paid. And so the

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this these tactics went from that, you know, to Machiavelli.
I mean Machiavelli lived in Italy five hundred years ago,
but his his teaching uh spread and so the acky
Velli idea is Italy was a bunch of city states
that always fought, and if one prince could control all

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of the city states, it would bring peace. And so
the ends was good. So the ends justifies the means.
So if a prince wants to conquer Italy to stop
the infighting, and he goes into a town and wants
to conquer it, the people would hate him. But if
the prince pays criminals to sew division, to smash windows,
to set things on fire, the people will cry out

(22:29):
for help and the prince will come in and get
rid of the very criminals he bribed to create all
the crises, and everyone will praise the prince as a hero.
And so it's good marketing. You create then even fill it.
You go on the back of the outset or on fire.
Then you go on the frontouse sell a fire extinguisher,
and they'll pay anything for it. But the idea is
that you want to create a crisis, you want to

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create a division. And so how do you destroy a
marriage so division? How do you destroy a church so division?
How do you destroy a country? Sew division? And so
when you have influencers sewing division, now you look at it.

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You can channel once their people are emotional, you can
channel that emotion very easily. They've studied mob psychology, and
so think of it for a moment. October seventh happens,
and we have fourteen hundred Jews killed, and the whole
world is feel full of emotion. Give them a month.

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They channel all that emotion back at Israel. So Israel
is blamed for the attack on Israel. And so you
look at Charlie Kirk getting killed. Give them a month.
They've channeled all that in energy back to blaming turning
point for Charlie's killing. It's like, who would have thought this?

(23:56):
They're brilliant at it. And so this idea, the syops,
these psychological operations. I talked to a former military psyops
person and he I said, well, not explain to me
some of the examples. And he goes Okay. We were
over in Afghanistan and there was this emom that was

(24:18):
causing us problems, and if we would have killed him,
the Muslims would have risen up and attacked us. So
we had a parade starting in the middle of town
with loud speakers praising this emom for helping the Americans
under the table. And we're going through the streets with
loud speakers say this, and they lay a basket of

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fruit on the Imam's front door, and he says, by
the time we got back to the base, that problem
was taken care of. I said, what do you mean,
he goes his own people killed him. They believed the syops.
So this enemy of the United States, right, they swayed
the people to blame him, and and so the syops

(25:04):
was used during World War Two that we dropped pamphlets
on German occupied cities that would in their own language
that would say your side has already lost. Your boss
just hasn't told you yet. And they would read it,
so why are we at here fighting? I read we
were already lost. It would mess with their minds. And
then the Japanese did it to us with Tokyo Rose.

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She was a woman with a seductive voice on the radio,
and the waves radio waves would go across to our
ships and she would say, you Americans are terrible and
you're doing this terrible, that terrible, and it would demoralize
our guys. And in the Bible you can begin to
see this over and over. Twelve spies going to the
Promised Land. Ten come back with a negative report. They're

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giants in the land work grasshoppers, the land of ours,
the inhabitants thereof let Stone, Moses, and go back to Egypt.
And so the ten spies spread a negative report. They
sow division. It was demoralizing, disheartening, and you know, Joshua
and Caleb stood up. But this idea that they lost

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before they ever got to the battlefield. They were defeated
in their mind. And so that's the tactic is if
you're wanting to take over a country and you have
a really strong group of people that are motivated to
get involved and save the country, what was Charlie's message,

(26:32):
Go back to church, get married, have kids, and save
the country. And Charlie thought politics. I mean, I had
a chance to visit with Brooke Collins, the US Secretary
of Agriculture, and she said that Charlie Kirk was in
her office so much and that he would suggest this
person for this position and that person for that position.

(26:54):
And she said a lot of people are in their
positions because Charlie. I mean, here's a guy that was
you know, maybe thirty Uh that was I mean it
was he was amazing, but he thought politics.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
So you believe Charlie, Charlie, So you believe Bill that
the all this division and accusations and crazy talk on
social media, it's being deliberately done to divide this movement.
The question is who is doing it? Are they doing
it on their own?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Is it? Is it ironic?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
The yeah, I mean Trump trying to fire.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Him, Russia or China involved it all?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I mean I would think so because they're they're globalist.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
You think somebody paid? Do you think some of these
folks are being paid to do this?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I think the uh yeah, I mean it's so Obama
put into federal positions, lots of people that are have
Democrat ideology, uh, and they are there for Andy Trumper's
and so when a new president comes in, he can

(28:05):
only fire ten percent of them. I mean, it's it's
the law. So unionizing We just recently had a vote
in Congress and thirteen Republicans joined the Democrats regarding union
unionized federal employees. And it doesn't sound like that much,

(28:26):
but there's what's called the SEES Senior Executive Service, and
it's a union of all the top people in every
federal agency, Department of Homeland Security, department, of all these
difference all the top people and always belong to this union.
And a new president, by law, can only fire ten

(28:47):
percent of them. And so Obama and Biden shoved into
this union. Lots of leftist ideological people, and Trump's trying
to get his agenda, but it's like pushing. On one
time my business with John Ashcroft, and he said it
was like push in a rope. He says he could
appoint his right hand man and maybe a couple people

(29:08):
that are assistance to him. But then when you get
to the second tier and the third tier, they would
just let it sit on their desk, and when they
would finally say get it done, they would just put
it on the other guy's desk. And then when they
would finally say get it done, they would put it
on And they have a term for it's called slow walking.
And it's and so their goal is to drag it
out for four years so that never gets implement.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Okay, there we are drag it out for four years,
and that's where we're at.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
That's where we're at.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
But I want to ask you in closing, do you
believe some of these people are being paid to do
this division distraction, to divide the camp?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Are they being paid?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Well? I would think that some of the social media people,
they're financially benefiting from the attack because they're getting views
and for their point their point of view from someone
that does a lot, they think if they can get
views and clicks, it's got to be good, and so

(30:08):
they don't it's it's controversy media. They want to talk
about controversial things because it gets views, not asking the
question is this going to help or hurt the midterms?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
And what does it say about our society and the
conservative movement that that's what they're interested in. I said
to my wife last night, I said, the fact that
people watch these programs and they have so many viewers
tells you just how again, we're living in a culture
where the adults, most of the adults in America are juveniles.

(30:40):
I'm telling you the number of adults that we personally
know of in our own area. They live for the
next vacation, they live for the next trip. They're deeply
in debt, spending money they don't have. Many of them
have a drinking problem. And I'm like, this is no
different than junior. So what does this say about the

(31:03):
conservative MAGA movement or America First Movement?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Are people?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
You know, the percentage in this movement that watch these people?
I mean, I don't think they have the spiritual and
intellectual wherewithal to bring real solutions to the country because
I don't think they're mature enough. They can handle an
inch deep and a mile wide, but they're not mature
enough to handle the information we bring. And that's why
we never ever built this network on population on numbers.

(31:30):
We always built it on deep content, biblical worldview, theology, doctrine,
national security history. Because if they're not thinkers and they're
not readers, they're not leaders. And in addition to that,
if you think you're going to sustain a network built
on a bunch of juvenile adults that are looking for

(31:53):
controversial TV, rage programming, rage podcasts, your organization will go
belly up. We don't need the biggest audience. We just
need an audience of highly educated and mature and spiritually
mature adults. And our organization just does great with that
because we've never marketed to the masses. We were specifically

(32:15):
trying to train biblical worldview people and leaders. But what
do you think I go back to the question, what
do you think it says about our the movement of Maga.
I'm not sure the movement of Maga is made up
of enough intellectually competent, mature, self controlled.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
People to actually go.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Beyond rallies and slogans. And you and I both know
rallies and slogans will not fix our country's problems.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah. Yeah, So controversy sells you remember Phil Donau. I
mean you would put everything, they'd want these couples to
fight on TV, right, because it sells Jerry Springer, Jerry Springer,
there you go. And you know England had the royal
family and it was like the people want to get
into the controversies of the royal family, right, and so

(33:05):
it is, it's it's but the question is always to
be asked, will it help or hurt the midterms? Is
it going to mobilize people to get out and campaign
to win the midterms, or is it going to take
that energy that Charlie Kirk had built and diffuse it
into infighting and actually blaming the very people that were

(33:29):
hurt for being participating in the killing. It's like it's
like Israel is blaming Israel for Isra attack in ISLAMI
they rape a woman, it's the woman's fault for allowing
herself to be used as a tool of Satan attempt
the man. I mean, who would have think that that
you could blame the woman who's been the victim of
rape and that she gets whipped under trux. So this

(33:50):
whole concept, it's it's in the Bible. It's called projection.
Potiphar's wife accused Joseph of lusting after her when she
was lusting after him. All right, so you accuse your
opponent of what you're guilty of. But these are tactics
that need to be explained so that people can identify them.

(34:11):
And if the easy question is is it going to
how's it going to affect the midterms? The Democrats are
laser focused on winning the mid terms, and the psychological
and again psychological operations have been used for fifty years.
They call them color revolutions, and they've been used by
the CIA and the KGB to overthrow governments. And so

(34:36):
this is only different because it's being used against us.
These are deep state people. I started to get into
that that SES Senior Executive Service. Trump's been trying to
fire people, and every time he does, they say no, no, no,
you can't fire him. And so once they're not fired,
what are they doing? They're working behind his back.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
There was because the CIA would put people into groups,
mark them with a color, you're this color of that car,
and then they would hit those colors against each other, right.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, yeah, James Linday. Lindsay is the best one to
explain it. But China, they had the reds and the blacks,
and so then they began to paint the one as
bad and then the other was the one that got
all the favors. And people would would even turn in
their own kids to be killed so that they could
switch from one color to the next to show their
loyalty to the CCP. And And so you your goal

(35:27):
is you want a radical left and a radical right
and pit them against each other so that there'll be division,
and then in the confusion, you want to channel that
emotion to blaming somebody, and you want to blame your
opponent for the division. So I mean, if they can
get boys to think they're girls, if they can get

(35:51):
the whole entire world to inject something into their body
that they don't know what's in it, if they get
the power of psychological it's marketing, but the power, and
they can individualize it. Now. So, University of Zurich did
a study on Reddit users, a website where you post

(36:11):
questions and answers, and they built a profile on every
user and they found out that bots bots bots were
six times more effective at getting people to change their
opinions than humans are. So they study you and they
know you. I mean, here, there's stories that they call
it sex tourting. So you know, a teenage kid comes

(36:33):
home from football practice, he just finished his dinner, it's
a true story, and he pulls his phone out and
they had like an AI generated image of him doing
something sexual I don't know, And then they said they're
going to send it to every one of his friends
on his list unless he pays money. And he doesn't
have money. He has thirty dollars. They said, no, you
got pay three hundred and it's like one hundred and

(36:54):
fifty texts within the next three hours. And then the
kid committed suicide. The power they have and now with
chat GPT.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
This one is a Christian family and the mother, you know,
the son committed suicide, like what and she looks on
his phone and there's all these texts with chat GPT
and it's saying, uh, I'll see you on the other side,
and you know you're doing the right thing. And I mean,
it was encouraging him to kill him. The power that

(37:24):
this has. But it's used on the public and so
they center and then you get unwitting influencers who are
just interested in clicks and views and you you without
doing the research and saying okay, this is going to
take a little time, and then you know put you know,

(37:47):
they just throw out today this is my thought, I'm
gonna blame so and so today, and somebody is feeding
them these ideas and uh and so one. But their
goal is division, division, blaming, blaming the victim for the
attack and uh, but the goal is midterms. Wow, a
goal is democrats or laser focused on midterms? They want

(38:08):
to diffuse all the conservative youth energy into endless rabbit trails.
The goal is to diffuse the energy, but to steal
the midterms.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
And then of course people get they get confused, they
get disappointed. It becomes so much drama that they just
walk away, throw their hands up and they quit and
they sit on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
And so that, yeah, that's a good divorce.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Exactly right. We got we need to get you.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I like both sides, so I'm just going to not
communicate with either of them. I'm just going back away.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Wow, we got to get you. Back to such a
deep topic.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
But it's so important propaganda, brainwashing, and how a lot
of the drama we're seeing on social media may very
well be orchestrated by the deep state to stop the
midterms from being successful and to derail the Real America
First movement. While Bill Feedereramericanmanute dot Com, our clips, by
the way that we put out our interviews always get

(39:01):
big response. So people love this kind of stuff. But
that's because we don't have a shallow adult audience of
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to learn, want to read, want to study audience and
that's why they love our program, our network interviews with you,
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are readers and leaders and you're catering right to them.

(39:24):
So thank you Bill at Americanminute dot com.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Thank you Bill.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, and all this information is in a book on
socialism if they want to buy it.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
What's it called.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
It's called Socialism, The Real History from Plato to the Present.
I'm writing another book, but that's the one that has
some of the content, and it's.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
An Americanminute dot com. Right, yeah, excellent, Thank you Bill.