Terror Plots, China’s Infiltration & the Coming Homeland Threat — J Michael Waller

Terror Plots, China’s Infiltration & the Coming Homeland Threat — J Michael Waller

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining me now is Jay Michael Waller. He is the
Senior Analyst for Strategy at the Center for Security Policy.
He is the author also of the book Big Intel,
How the CIA and FBI went from Cold War heroes
to Deep State Villains.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
That was his book last year.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
He joins us now, mister Waller, welcome back to the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thanks for being with us.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Good to join you again.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Great to have you here with us.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Let's go right away to breaking news and I want
to get to Australia and the tragedy there, but I
want to get to this one breaking news here. Ukraine
opens new chapter in the history of naval warfare by
blowing up a submarine in the Russian seaport. However you
say that name there, but I'm sure you can say it.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
But here we go. Watch the video.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
What is I mean? Do you know how this went down?
And what does it tell us?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, it looks like it went down really well for Ukraine.
It's a really admirable operation. To imagine being able to
penetrate a heavily fortified naval seaport like that and strike
the exact submarine with all those other warships around.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
And this has happened now in the last few hours.
How do you think Russia is going to respond to this?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, they haven't responded the way I would have anticipated
them responding to most of the attacks on them. They've
really been I don't know, kind of paralyzed in there
or incapable in their responses. But when you consider the
other vessels. They took out the Russia's black Sea Fleet flagship,
they took out the naval facilities in Crimea, the power

(01:37):
systems one third of Russia's long range strategic aircraft from
the Ukraine has done an amazing job. And Russia really
hasn't hit back the way one would expect.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
And why do you think that is?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Because they have the Satan two and all that technology.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
They have it. But it's proof that I mean, the
whole invasion of Ukraine was a stupid thing from Putin's
part because had he just waited longer, all of Europe
and the Biden administration would have caved in and given
them everything they wanted, and the Russians could have just
marched in. That's what we thought would happen. But Putin
went and did the dumb thing and invaded, and in
so doing so they didn't think to bring enough fuel

(02:16):
trucks to accompany their armored convoys in the invasion force,
so they had all column stopped up right away. And
then they found that the military was so corrupt. They
were buying cheap Chinese made tires for their heavy equipment
and all sorts of other stuff that caused things to
break down. And then over a while the soldiers were
selling the fuel to the locals, and then you had

(02:37):
all the expensive equipment just sitting there free for the
Ukrainians to take. So it was really a completely bungled
operation from a military perspective on the Russian side from
the start, and the Ukrainians had put up a really
admirable fight.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
How do you think this ends?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I see sure Germany is now saying, look, we're going
to go to conscription. It seems like every time I
turned around, some NA leader, European leaders talking about war
and preparing for warn sons dying on the battlefield.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Where's all this going?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Well, you can look at it a whole lot of ways.
First of all, the Europeans have they pulled us into
this by being the the forces to provoke the Biden
administration to go to the Biden administration to do something
and pull the United States in when the Biden and
you know administration was asleep at the switch. So nobody

(03:28):
has come up with a strategy. The Ukrainians haven't, the
NATO hasn't, the European Union hasn't, the United States hasn't
on what are our end goals in Ukraine and how
are we going to get there? So Trump comes in
inheriting this complete mess, and he says, there's there's no
way that we can win this thing. Let's just quit

(03:49):
while we're at or quit before we get behind, and
and put an end to this. But you see the
you know, he had to beat up the Europeans to
pull their weight.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Let's move to the issue of Australia.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
We have a reporter on the ground in Israel that
works for US, and of course we reported on that
today at one o'clock Central.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
But I want to come to the issue with you
because I know you.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Have talked an awful lot and warned an awful lot
about Islam. I guess Australia just had their October seventh,
if you will. I had a book come out just
a couple months ago entitled America's October seventh. What's the
subtitle of that book, logan the Hamasa's US network exposed
or something like that. Sadly, I expect to see and

(04:32):
we've been saying since October seven, twenty twenty three, that
we expect to see something like that in America, And
now apparently the FBI has spoiled a New Year's Eve
attack in multiple locations in Los Angeles. Talk to us
about what went down in Australia. The police, they're being
wildly and rightly I think, criticized for being impotent.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
The police. There's a police station.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I see a map within eyesight of this where it
took place.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Took fifteen to twenty minutes for them to respawn.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It ended up taking a civilian risking his life getting
shot to disarm one guy. We have been look pro
police traditionally in our country, we have been, but after
Black Lives Matter and cultural Marxism, we've been saying an
interface dialogue with Muslim brotherhood, police department, sheriff departments. We've
been saying openly, we've run off a lot of the
good guys.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
We are left with.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Infinite police departments, many of them that cannot rightly respond
to this and now we see this in Australia. Speak
to all this please and where we're going.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Well, there's a lot there to have this happen. So
an ear a police station with a twenty minute response
and have a local civilian take down the one of
the gunmans. It's an amazing thing. I mean, you don't
expect police to be there all the time, but they
shouldn't have a long response rate like that. You could

(05:51):
tell that the man who took out the first gunman
with his bare hands wasn't experienced in firearms, so he
couldn't use that to defend himself later when he was
getting shot at. And now you have the Australian government
coming out and saying we're going to ban guns even further.
This was a case of foreign extremists, known foreign extremists

(06:12):
being allowed in Australia, being allowed it to stay, to
live off the Australian taxpayer, and then to come in
and show you saw the man on the bridge. He
was highly trained bolt action rifle popping off four shots
in five seconds. That's amazing skill right there. Somebody trained him.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, indeed, And now we're finding out that the son
and father are from Pakistan. We're finding out that the
sun was on the radar of the authorities and apparently
was cleared a few years ago. I mean almost seems
like always these guys were on the radar of the authorities.
I mean, partly a shooting happens that the FBI in
our country, Oh yeah, they were on our radar. Well, really,
why didn't you do something? Someone over there in Australia

(06:53):
are asking if there was some kind of standdown order,
do not respond for fifteen to twenty minutes?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, you know, the Australian security services are more woke
than the CIA and the FBI. Australia is much further
down the line and down the path and wokeness than
the United States was let alone, let alone is. And
there's no reversal in Australia like there is there. So
you have, you know, you have a whole mentality now

(07:22):
in all of law enforcement that you cannot move at
certain targets the way you normally order. You can't watch
them way you normally could. But just think you have
you know, a Honica celebration that was scheduled long in advance,
with a high concentration of Jewish people celebrating their holiday,
and there's not adequate security to prevent the known wolves,

(07:44):
the people they already know about, from coming in and
shooting the place up. It's obscene.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
It is obscene, particularly when you look at the structures
from that bridge to the building there on the grounds
that would give them the high ground, which is of
course what any security expert would immediately be looking at,
is the high ground like shooting fish in a barrel.
And yet this thing went down the way it did,
and there weren't security to the degree that obviously there
should have been, or even the event being held right

(08:10):
there at that location where people.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Can have the high ground. Let's talk about America.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'll consider you, mister Waller, that we're going to see
our own October seventh stall event, and maybe we just
had a major terrorist attack for New Year's Eve foiled
by the authorities in the Trump administration.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, I'm extremely concerned. You could just think, if you're
a foreign enemy of our country and you want to
harm us, destroy us, wouldn't you take advantage of the
open borders policy and the wokeness that causes people to
look the other way. You'd be a fool not to
you'd be you'd be a traitor to your cause not

(08:47):
to take advantage of that to come here and showed
us up. So I fully expect a number of mass
shootings and terrorist attacks that take place in our country,
if not immediately, certainly in the future. And the FBI
IS and the other authorities busts of this network in
Los Angeles shows these things are being planned.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
How concerned are you now about China? We keep reading
about China getting into our our our grid. They have
chips on our transformers. I mean, every time we turn around,
we're reading about more and more of what China has
to bring our country down. And when we hear a
lot of talk about China and tough talk, but now
we're going to send Navidia chips to China.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
It seems as though.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
At some level we have a kind of a schizophrenic
foreign policy on China.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Do we not?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I agree? I agree if it's insane to be sending
Nvidia chips to the Chinese Communist Party so they can
build their artificial intelligence. And it's not just deep seak,
you know, the chat GPT type stuff. This is the
Chinese Communists are developing machines that will be able to
think on their own according to a moral code that's

(09:57):
loyal to the Chinese Communist Party JANET. So they lead
the world in autonomous drones, they lead the world in
building you know, humanoid robotic what they call super soldiers,
and they're doing this with our technology.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
What do you make about Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
We've been reporting since I think two thousand and eight,
two thousand and nine. You go back in our history
about potential missiles in northern Venezuela Caracas twelve hundred and
sixty four miles as it pro flies to Miami. We've
talked about flights from Iran Tehran going in there for years.
Then we've got POMPEIOCI director telling Chris Wallace on Fox

(10:39):
News during the Trump's first term that you got Hesbola there,
and you've got Russia there, and I ran there.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Of course China's there. Is this Is this.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Blowing up of these little boats really about the drug war? Which,
if it is, that's fine. I'm not for these drugs
coming in here and killing our people. But is this
more about maybe that Marita what is called Margarita Island,
where has bolas being trained. Is this more about our
enemies that have an alliance together militarily and economically in

(11:11):
our backyard.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
You just nailed it right there. This is what the
Monroe doctrine was for over two hundred years ago, when
President James Monroe created our foreign policy doctrine that we're
not going to intervene in America's free republics of the Americas.
But any colonial power that returns or comes in is
a threat to the United States. And that was our

(11:35):
policy until really John F. Kennedy caved in on Cuba.
But really it was maintained until the Obama administration formally
renounced it. So it's not just Venezuela being a nasty regime,
which it is. There's plenty of nasty regimes in Latin
American history. This is a regime that has been attacking us,
emptying our prisons and insane asylums to come here and

(11:56):
to colonize us, and to attack our people, and to
bog down our law enforcement and to stemius from people
from living normal lives here in America. In addition to
the drug trafficking, in addition to allowing has Belat to
use our maritime southern border as a staging area. I mean,

(12:18):
the Iranian Revolutionary Guard has a drone factory on a
Venezuelan military base. So the Venezuelan regime has allowed most
of our foreign enemies to come and congregate and use
that territory for some kind of playing against us.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, now we see that today President Trump say he's
signing an executive order to classify fentanyl as a weapon
of mass destructure.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Here's a quipp clip from the Oval Office.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Deadly fl flooding into our country. With this historic executive
order I will sign today, we're formerly classifying fentol as
a weapon of mass destruction, which is what it is.
No Bob does what this is doing. Two hundred to
three hundred thousand people die every year that we know of.

(13:07):
So we're formally classifying fentandyl as a weapon of mass destruction.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
But before I signed the all right, so that I
don't know what that means for the drug runners here
in Amerket get caught with it.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's got to be some serious stiff penalties.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Now, yeah, I mean imagined before it was just an
illegal drug. Right now it's a weapon. So if it's
defined as a weapon, that means you can take military
action abroad can we have the legal right to attack
anyone smuggling that in here, anyone smuggling the precursor chemicals
in here, and taking out anyone in a foreign country.

(13:44):
It can be done. We can do it by drone
or however else who is part of a Chinese Communist
party network to attack us with weapons of mass destruction
as the President has just defined it. So it's not
just the illegal drug smuggling anymore. He's changed the whole
debate on drug.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
His appointment was, that's my fault on my insorry about that, guys.
I saw an article, posted an article today. I'm trying
to find it now. I posted an article today about
one of these groups developing super fast drones.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I can't remember. Here we go, I ran, here we go,
I ran introduces.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Stealthy, high speed Kamakazi drone. Okay, we on this broadcast
maybe two years ago, three years ago, played video footage
that the IRGC put out that looked like it could
have been on our border between Mexico and America, would

(14:44):
have been down the border between Mexico and Texas, Mexico
and Arizona. But it was them sending off drones and
they came in and the drones were shooting what looked
to be like almost like a machine guns at a
crowd of people, but it was cardboard cutouts, and we

(15:06):
started talking about that then. Now the technology is moving
so quickly. I am so concerned about potential mass casualty
event coming out of Mexico, since we know the connection
between the cartels and the Islamist the red Green axis, etc.
How consider are you about these drone attacks on our

(15:26):
border coming over from Mexico. H.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
We have no defense against them, right, we have no
way to detect them. And remember you've got the Iranian
drone factory in Venezuela. We don't know what kind of
drones they're making there. It could be at ease, and
that's our southern maritime border, so it's not just coming
over the land border. It could be coming by sea also,
and this could be what some of these fast drug

(15:51):
boats are bringing in. We just don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
And then add the club K car to it, right,
the club K cargo systems.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
We did a whole documentary on that. Those club Ka's
open up.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Or silos, and we have no way of stopping that
off of our coast. And I don't know if you've
seen the logan, maybe we can bring it up real quick.
Have you seen the cover of the Economist magazine came
out about a month ago, twenty twenty six Ahead, I
was talking about what's coming in twenty twenty six Ahead, Okay,
many things, many things. On the cover of the Economist magazine,

(16:23):
which we all know is one of the premier globalist magazines.
You see the dollar collapsing in dollars spilling off of
a chart, so it looks like they're.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Talking about maybe a dollar collapse. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Silver's headed to sixty five dollars an ounce today. You know,
gold's well up over forty three dollars forty three hundred
dollars an ounce. But the other thing you see, mister Waller,
is a cargo container ship with missiles coming off of them,
and they're getting a If you zoom in on that,
you also see a satellite command. So a satellite signal

(16:54):
is going down to the cargo ship. There to the
left of the two hundred and fiftieth Birthday Cake of America.
You got missiles coming off getting a signal from a satellite.
This is what is in my documentary in twenty eighteen
on the Club K cargo system. I mean this is
round the cover of the Connas magazine.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Your thoughts, Well, that tells a story that we've been
warning about for years, and we were told that it
was a conspiracy theory. So it's another conspiracy theory come true.
We had a scenario where a shipping container on a
freighter that coming in from China in the port of
Baltimore with missiles inside the container that could decapitate the
United States government within minutes and we would have no

(17:36):
way of detecting it or countering it.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, and yet we're conspiracy theorists here we are. You know,
I don't know what your family does, because I think
you probably live outside.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
The DC area, right I moved out of the DC area. Oh, well,
good for you. The smart move up.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
My friend, the late doctor Peter Prye, we used to
produce his weekly radio show and I progres yes, absolutely
miss him. He produced his TV show from this very desk,
and he moved out, said I'm getting outside the blast zone,
and he moved way on out. But he and I
had so many conversations over and of course you probably
remember when he was working for Kurt Weldon up on

(18:13):
the hill and Kurt Weldon and Dan Burton put together
the mock up of a briefcase of a nuclear suitcase.
And that was our buddy Peter Vincent Pride that mocked
that up for him. I think it's in the Spy
Museum there in DC with his name down there. Peter
Pry and we at dinner one night here in town.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
He was here filming. We went out to dinner.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
He was talking to me and a couple of the
people at the table that had brought with us about
how much you would need that you could put it
into a backpack even and then just set it around
in different places in the nation's capital, and what it
could do, and how concerned he was. And on one
of the videos we've played of Dan Burton and Cornerson
Burton Congressman Weldon at the time, they were saying, look,

(18:55):
one of these devices could take out eight square blocks.
I am so shocked. We haven't seen something like that yet,
aren't you.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, it's probably the grace of God and maybe some
good intelligence that we never knew about, right, or the
perpetrators have decided now is not yet the.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Time, and isn't that at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
What it all comes down to, they're waiting on the
perfect time, the perfect day. I don't know, you know
our family here, what your family does. But we are
prepared for the power to go down. We're prepared for
disruption in just in time inventory because we realize how
vulnerable our country is. And one of my friends who

(19:36):
used to be for many years in leadership at the
National Reconnaissance Office, he said, the problem, Brandon is the
borders have.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Been open for so long. We don't know who's here.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
So they have prepared the battlefield, and we have no
idea how to respond because we don't know who's here.
And in some cases we don't know if they haven't
already placed these pargo containerships around the country, these containers
to be all over prepositioned, we would have no way
at this point of finding them.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
No, they're shipping containers all all over the place and
everybody's backyard and stop at any truck stop. But imagine
if you have these missiles on trucks and they're stopping
it truck stops in different strategic parts of the country,
all at about the same time. The drivers might not
even know what they're carrying and it's all remote control launches.

(20:25):
But the trucks are all prepositioned so that there would
be no way to intercept these missiles.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Let's in our final moments together, Let's go to your book.
You wrote a book in twenty twenty four last year
on the deep State and the FBI, was entitled Big Intel.
How the CIA and FBI went from Cold War heroes
to Deep State villains. How do you think the Trump
administration is doing when it comes to cleaning out the
deep state from the FBI and CIA.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
CIA, I don't see any changes at all. Our CIA director,
he's a good man, but he's Ratcliffe, but he's not
a transformative person. You don't see any leaks against him,
so he's not offending any of the powers that be
on the inside with the FBI. I'm going to publicly

(21:13):
reserve judgment for now.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
What other concerns do you want to alert our American
citizens to tonight?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Well, first, it like the man in Australia who grab
that gunman, it's up to every citizen to first. You
can't take care of others until you take care of yourself.
You have to be prepared for the worst circumstances. You
it's all just common sense. And then you have to
figure out what would the enemies of our country do?
What would I do if I was the enemy? And

(21:41):
then you sort of take it what we call a
red team approach. You look at it from the eyes
of the bad guys. How would they exploit us? Could
it be exploiting the border situation to infiltrate people and
to destroy us from within? Think of it. There were
the equivalent of six army divisions of military ageines males
who were seen coming over the border sixty thousand with

(22:05):
similar haircuts, with similar clothing, with similar gear, and they
were just allowed through six army division equivalents. We don't
know who they are.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
And they're still here, right.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
They haven't been deported. We have seen no indication that
they have been.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
And again, I guess we'll always asked the question, what
are they waiting for?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, I guess we don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Do we We don't know, and we don't know precisely
what they're doing. They could be they could be part
of a research and development program at a major software
or hardware company for all we know. They could be
just having normal jobs at a restaurant or a donut
shop or someplace waiting to be activated at a certain
point in time. We just don't know. But the convenient

(22:49):
thing about infiltrating people into a country and prepositioning them
and their gear in advance is they can prepare for
a tax, to take down our grid, to take down
our supply change, to take down our leadership, anything else,
and it's not traceable back to the country responsible. So
it's not like firing a missile where we have an
early warning system and we know who's firing with us,

(23:11):
and we have a few minutes either to defend against
it or retaliate against it. You don't have that with
the case of sabatories inside this country.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You sure don't.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Our friend Gordon Chang, who is just here in town
speaking at our national conference and he's a regular here,
said that, you know, Americans should be prepared to fight
the next war on our soil. And he has said
that the Chinese Commonist Party will alert their cells and
they'll poison water, they'll let off bombs, and.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
They will kill a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
How confident do you feel about that prediction by our
friend Gordon.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Chang, Well, he has a good track record, And I've
been following him for years and I know him, and
he's a fine analyst. He's always been very He's always
taken a risk in his analysis, like Peter Prie did,
but he's been proven right time and time and time
and time again when everyone else was saying he was wrong.
So the key to defeating us if you're a foreign

(24:07):
adversary is not to not to fight us ship for
ship or missile to missile, but get us where we're weak,
to defeat us without having to fight us. That's been
Chinese military teaching for five thousand years.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It kind of seems like that's what's going on. It
comes to.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
All the division in the MAGA America First Movement. You
know you got and is saying what Cannis Owens is saying.
You've got the murder of Charlie Kirk, you got groups
pitted against each other, you got the rise of this
character Nick Fintees, You've got some very strange interviews being
done by Tucker Carlson not pushing back against some of
these people. And the movement is completely divided now, right,

(24:46):
And you have to wonder is anyone a foreign enemy
of any kind? Stirring up this controversy so that the
country is already divided. Countries we know has been divided
for a long time, but now we have the movement divided.
Of course, we're headed up to the midterms, and it
seems like that's the strategy, is to get us all demoralized.
You know, it wasn't at your bestment off that talked

(25:08):
about demoralized, the stabilized, chaos and then the new norm.
And it seems like the stabilization and the chaos is
everywhere and every day.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm sure you do. I mean, this is your job,
is my job.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Every day we get up seven days a week looking
to see what's going on in American around the world,
and trying to read what's happening. And I can't hate
to say it, but I just keep waiting for another
massive event in the country to destabilize us. And I
don't know if it's if the powers that be, the
people behind this, our enemies are foreign and domestic, have

(25:42):
decided it's a terrorist attack, or if they've decided it's
something that they can use to control us more with
more fear, like a pandemic again, a bio weapon, because boy,
the country is sure, sure closed up and people went
to mask and taking these COVID clot shots.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
And everything else.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
It seems to me that nothing scared people, and Hollywood
sure is prepared everybody with all the outbreak movies and
contagion movies, and that to me seems like the greatest
way to scare the living daylights out of people is
a bio weapons. So, in conclusion, mister Water, what keeps
you up at night?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
You know, there is so much to worry about that
if you spend all your time worrying, you'd go crazy.
The thing is to look for solutions. So that's what
keeps me motivated, is to search for these solutions and
their niche solutions. They're not all big money, you know,
big industry solutions. And the upsetting part of it is
that because there's no money involved in a lot of

(26:38):
the solutions, you don't have lobbies for them. You don't
have senior officials trying to make their next career on them.
So and there's no training for thinking this way in
most cases. So a lot of the solutions are very simple.
Trump has taken some of those solutions on a big scale,
though with the mass deportations that has to be done.
He's entirely correct to be doing exactly what he's doing.

(26:58):
It's just a pity that we don't have the source
to do it even faster. He's gone to China and said,
knock off the fentanyl. We're viewing it as a military threat.
He's shown the Venezuelan regime and the cartel running that
regime and the whole rest of the world, if you're
going to be smuggling this stuff into our country, we're
going to finish you off. So he's been doing that.
A lot of his a lot of his policies have

(27:20):
stimied even his biggest supporters. He's wondering, what on earth
is he doing? Why is he so erratic? Part of
that is Trump being Trump, but part of it is
the threats against us are so various and they're so
so new that Trump is keeping the whole world unstable
wondering what he's going to do to them if they continue.

(27:42):
So in some ways, I think he's playing a mind game,
which that doesn't cost anything to do, and it's going
to be good for us. But if you look at
say Venezuela and capturing that tanker that wasn't a Venezuelan tanker.
That was a tanker owned by a Russian Ukrainian law
oil to the Kremlin, who is taking Venezuelan and Iranian

(28:03):
oil and selling it to China, so the proceeds can
go back to fund the Venezuelan regime, the Cuban communists
and the Iranian Revolutionary Garden has belap. So it's a
lot more than just seizing a Venezuela tanker. So what
keeps up keeps me up at night thinking of solutions
that will matter to the US. And so what we've
been able to do at the Center for Security Policy

(28:24):
is to contribute on a small scale to some of
these very niche solutions that the administration has been using.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Great answer, final question made me think of this while
you're talking. Do you believe the President should be doing
more oval office primetime addresses to the American people and
explaining to them some of the things you just said
right then about that oil tanker, what it.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Was doing, Who they are.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I just wondering if the President isn't educating the American people.
You know, I'm a teacher by nature. As far as
I like to teach, I think you know you're an author,
you're an analyst.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
My guess is you like to teach.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You go in and you analyze stuff, and then you
teach it to people who are in the know, you know,
maybe in maybe even in closed door intel briefings, but
you're trying to teach them something. And so I'm always
looking at thinking is the president being the chief teacher
of the American people? Ronald Reagan used to do that
quite well, and he did a lot of oval office addresses,

(29:21):
and I just feared sometimes that this president isn't doing enough.
To read the teleprompter, stay on the prep prompter, don't
go off the prompter. Just deliver the message written by
your team to brief the American people to the internal
and external threats facing us and prepare us to be ready.
Just like that civilian took out that terrorist shooter in Australia,

(29:43):
we need more Americans that are prepared, that are you know,
if you can afford to go out and prep for
three months, six months worth of food and medicine and
extra gear, you know, stitches and sutures and things, you
should do that for your family. Because we're in a
very dangerous time and our critical infrastructures are at and
the more of you that are ready. The less stress
is going to put on your local government first responders.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
But then you're going to able to help.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Other people and be leaders in your community and help
the senior citizen that's a veteran, Help the lady that's
a you know, a widow, give be a cheerleader for
people being independent, you know, and rugged individualists. I just
sometimes wish he would explain to us that the without
you know, of course he can declassify what he wants,

(30:27):
but I just wish he, what times, would explain to
the American people the massive existential threats we're facing as
a country, not to panic us so we can prepare
and come out of it stronger and win.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Right, just to prepare us. But that's not who Donald
Trump is. He likes speaking off the cuff. That's who
he is, and that's that's how he is. If he
did not. Now you know, he's got his own alternate
media outlet with with Truth Social and he's on X
and on a lot of other different platforms, and he
uses the bully pulpit really well to suit the type
of person he is. But Reagan, who was a more

(31:00):
scripted guy as an actor, but he had what three
hundred of his weekly radio addresses, and the purpose of
that was to circumvent the major media and to force
them to report on things exactly the way he articulated them.
And you've just nailed to President Trump needs to do
that too, and if not him, other people speaking on

(31:21):
his behalf to come out and explain to the public
exactly what's going on in a calm, logical, organized way,
because right now, with so many people confused about well,
why why is he calling the Chinese domination of artificial
intelligence an existential threat to America while he's agreeing to
sell Nvidia chips to the Chinese Communist Party? Makes no sense.

(31:43):
What is the reasoning for it? So he has to
come out and really explain.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
That absolutely well.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
America is a great place in many regards, no doubt
about it. Ronald Reagan concluded his first a inaugural address
was with talking about Americans and solving our problems, and
he said, you know, after all, we can do this
because after oh, we are Americans, and I just think
it's time to rally, particular with our two hund and fiftieth
birthday coming up. The rally around that inform patriotism, acknowledging

(32:10):
the threats foreign and domestic, and ask Americans to rise
to the occasion that we are a government of the people,
by the people for the people, that we are to
give consent. The government doesn't isn't our master. We are
to be its master, and we the people should be
an active citizenry, working in concert with those that we

(32:30):
have given agency to.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
On our behalf.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
And yet I feel like so much of the time
Americans are sitting here, mother may I and you know
with the wrong mentality that we should be working as
business owners, as parents, as police officers, as school teachers,
as pastors, as rabbis, in concert with our local, local,
and state and federal officials who answer to us. But
we should be there to work in concert together to

(32:55):
solve these problems, and then to be ready to be
mobilized individually, independently as we see needed in our communities.
Because I think, unfortunately, I think we are going to
see events like October seventh in America. I think we're
going to see things like this happen in Australia. I
think they're the real potential for massive problems with our
critical infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is very, very real.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
But I also think it's something we can get through
as Americans together if we're prepared and organized and networking
with each other. But I just don't see the civil
I guess we're kind of going back to World War two,
you know, the kind of civil commands, you know, where
you would have someone in your area that knew what
was going on and organize people, because, like Reagan said,
after all, we're Americans. We can get through pretty much

(33:39):
anything if we're told the truth and told how to
prepare and what's expected of us.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
When these things happened, posing comment.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Well, you nailed it there, But this was at a
time when people trusted their authorities, they trusted the government,
they had civil discourse amongst themselves. And now we're talking
You hear all this talk about civil war and oh good,
somebody was murdered and and isn't that great? And can't
wait for the rest of them to get you know,
all this really sick stuff that you don't have people
coming together like they used to before. And even with

(34:08):
COVID where the public did come together, we soon realized
we're being scammed and somebody's covering up for the perpetrators
of all of this. Against us, so we've become a
very low trust environment. But there is something you mentioned
the twenty two hundred and fifteth anniversary of America. Only
a third of the American public support of the American Revolution,

(34:30):
a third of it was loyal to the crown, and
the third of it just didn't care and wanted to
be left alone. So if the third that was actually fighting,
it was dispersed all over the place. And you had
just a few men who got together to start the
Continental Congress at huge personal expense, but they assumed the
risk on their own. They were going to lose their

(34:52):
property and they were all going to hang if they
got cut so but they went and did it anyway.
So this is a great time to go back and
think of those people and that one that minority of
the country that actually fought for our freedom, and know
that we can do this again.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Wow, what a great way to end the great interview here.
Look at this. Follow him on social media. He's a
senior analyst for strategy at Center for Security Policy. He's
also the author of Big Tech How the CIA FBI
went from Cold War heroes to Deep State Villains. Follow
him there on x at j Michael Waller at J
Michael Waller. Mister Waller, thank you for making time for
us tonight.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
It's great being with you again, Brandon, look.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Forward to having you back. J. Michael Waller checking in again.
Follow him on X at J Michael Waller