Are YOU Scared Of The Ravens?! | The Braylon Edwards Show | Wednesday, September 17th

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
There's plenty of teams that have quarterback concerns going into
this weekend. The Lions are not one of them. Excited
to be with you on another addition to the Brailan
Edwards Show on this Wednesday, I'm Woodward Sports. Ryan is
with us, KG is with us. The man whose name
bears this show, Braylan Edwards, is here too. I love
that logo man well designed, one.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Stocks and Anson Wells who put this together a little
while ago, took.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
A little time to get it turned over and it
become the logo. But I like it. It gives us
a little sense of some it's refreshing. I like it's coleen. Obviously,
it's fresh.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
It's clean. It's fresh to s awid things.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
But I appreciate you guys in the back Anson as
well as Ryan Inch's actions to the right right now.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
But I like it a lot. You said you might
have had a gripe with do temp.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I wouldn't say it's a grip. I might have a
little adjustment.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
To talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I would I would like to see either the number
one or the number seventeen in the middle of the microphone.
Ryan told us that is very doable. Other than that,
I take one over seventeen, you would take one over seventeen.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
This I think.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I think the one that's because of the colors.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Well maybe a little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Okay, there's also two.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
You say it clean, but one, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, one is very coliny. I mean, yeah, I think it.
I think it jumps out at you, you know. And
I'm not saying that. I would tell you know me,
I'd tell you if I didn't lie. I think it
looks really cool.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
I appreciate that. There's nothing wrong with the other one.
We'll just say this one's a lot better appreciated.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Good good stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, it's a good it's a good start, man, It's
we can we can crown this a winner if you will.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
How do you feel?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I feel great. I always look I come in here,
I bounce in here with a smile on my face.
I try to get here as early as possible. People
are always very nice. Lady Jane's saying hello, cag and
I get into a debate everything.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
That's my favorite part of the day.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's how that's but you know what, that's how you
stay sharp. Yeah, if you're just gonna surround yourself with
yes people, then you got to do it. Yeah, you're
not going to do yourself justice. How are you going
to grow? How are you going to learn to grow?
And how you're gonna teach? You and I have disagreed
on a lot of things, and then I end up
coming around and going, you know what, it's a great point, man.

(03:01):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Same on both sides. Now, I'm not coming to the
Jack Nicholason conclusion.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah, that's okay, Nicholas.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
But I don't know other than that, I have no
but I asked because I'm just in a good moved too.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Man.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think the weather is helping that this has been
an elongated summer that feels good. I went to the doctor,
found everything's good. So shout out to Michigan Sports and
Spine and doctor Jeff Piers because he does work.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
It does work. That's why we tell you skin a
QR code.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Because I didn't even need what I thought I needed
from my doctor. Thought I needed something more and I didn't.
So Michigan Sports and Spine for the win. But it's
just hanging on to this summer. It's a beautiful summer.
It led to a beautiful night last night which I
was down at the ballpark. Didn't get the result I wanted,
but and just looking at the city and seeing the

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Hudson Building in the distance. Now I think we got
a picture of that, like just seeing what the city
is becoming. Hudson project five years in and here we are,
he finished.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
The angle was nice, the people were downtown.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Stopped and got a bite in Washington Park before we
went down there. We went to Layla just got a
chance of hanging with the city. There's a lot of
diversity in the city right now, break a lot of
people outside. Hey, this is a great time to probably
be at Detroite. So I always always love being downtown
and cities looking.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm glad you said that. I've always felt from that
perch in the broadcast booth that downtown Detroit looks as
good as any outfield picturesque wall that you can find.
There are, uh, you know, when you're in San Francisco,
you've got the water and looks fantastic. When you are
in Los Angeles, you see a highway, but there is

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you know, land before that, and you see a lot
of the really neat features that they can offer. When
you are in Chicago at Guaranteed Great Field, you see
nothing which still blows my mind. When you're in Kansas
City at the waterfall, Pittsburgh is beautiful because you can
see the bridges in the downtown. Detroit doesn't take a

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back seat to end anybody when it comes to what
you're looking at from behind home plate or a visiting
broadcast opportunity. I say this to a lot of teams
and schools where you're going to position your cameras. You've
got to keep this in mind when you're designing things.
When people are watching you at home, what are they seeing?

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Really important to see what's behind home plate and from
behind home plate, what you're seeing beyond and outfield wall.
Do I like what they have behind home plate right now? No?
I think green seats is stupid quite honestly, But there
might be some type of rule and regulation that you
have to have through Major League Baseball. I don't know

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why blue what Tiger's blue wouldn't work? Why you put green?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I mean, I think it's ridiculous, but it could look
really good.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, they probably don't have any more money. After the
home Suee club that they finally finished.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I heard about that. That thing looks amazing, sound and
picture was it?

Speaker 4 (05:56):
I didn't get. You have to go down there yet.
Next time I go, I will go and our report
back on how it was. But just the overall experience,
attackers say, man, it's a great experience. They lose the game.
I don't care about that. I wanted them to win.
They fought back in the ninth. But the thing I
have an issue with.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, you're starting to care about it, though you should
care about But I do care.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Okay, I do care, But I'm not gonna come here
to day and say, oh my god, they love No.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
This is you wanted to clinch in seven games and
now it's been extended.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah. Somebody had asked us sat in the chat last week.
I said no, I didn't think they would. Cleveland's got
a lot to play for, all right. They're two and
a half back of the final wild card. Detroit's lead
is down to five and a half. I'm not worried
about that at all.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Plus, Cleveland is used to this space. Like I feel
like every year Cleveland is fighting in this space. They're
fighting to be one and they're fighting to be two.
But they're used to September pouring it on like this
is when they wake up.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Bailyn, you are one hundred percent. I was talking with
their Hall of Fame radio voice Tom Hamilton this morning.
He's he's the best radio player, by play guy in baseball.
He's so good, he said Matt. Over the last thirteen years,
the Indian Slash Guardians have played twenty five insignificant games

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in September. In other words, they're in it on a
regular basis. That number blew my mind. I'm not worried
about Detroit that in the division, But if people want
the number two seeds, they better take a glance over
their shoulder and see. And I talked about Seattle, is
right there?

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Two more bombs for the big guy. Yeah, so fifty
big Dumper, they say, Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Big Dumper ties Ken Griffy Junior for most home runs
in a single season by a Seattle Mariner. When you're
in the same conversation with Ken Griffy Junior, you're doing something,
and he broke the record by a switch hitter all
time with Mickey Mantle. If you're in the conversation with
Mickey Mantle, who in five years in his league or
in the league, had five World Championships, a couple of MVPs,

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a couple of home runner batting titles, you know you're
doing something right, so you better watch out for them.
And and then Toronto won again last night, so increases
that lead a little bit. I'm just saying, if that's
a priority for you into the postseason, those numbers are
gonna matter, and these games are gonna matter.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, And look, you know somebody that's not in the
same conversation as Mickey Manto. And this is my guy,
Javerie Base, Like, come on, hobby By is I have
legitimately lobbied for him all season.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Everyone on the show will tell you talking about I'm
talking about hobvier byas Ak Junior bassed.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Like, look, before the season started, I said he would
hit three hundred and make the All Star Game. You
can go back and check the receipts. He was betting
three hundred almost into the All Star Game. I think
he went in with two eighty seven and he made
the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I was furnish to you. You said two ninety, not three hundred.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Okay, true, it was even better.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
So I was being obviously a way outlanders take that
just happened to take.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
But I've supported him. I've heard all the stories.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
I've heard all the new rule cracking jokes about him
swinging and the other batters box, which is what I'm
about to get to, and I've.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Defended him even with that. Like, man, look how well
he's defended.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
You moved him from short I mean, excuse me, move
him from second to third to short to out in
center field. You can put him maybe where, and he's
even better in our field. We never knew that. Last night,
I oh my god, I'm at the plate. I'm right
behind home plate. I'm on the right side, so I'm
behind the visitors. Dugout four rows back. My guy comes up.
I'm all right, Hobby, he said, show him something. Give
I've been waiting for Hobby to do something. I've been

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to four Tigers games this year, and he conveniently does
not show up.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
When I come.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Three pitchers, three pitchers in the second and bat which
is the first one I saw. He took them and
guess what they were right down the pipe. Strike one,
strike two, strike three. Go sit down. But then you
know it's still my guy. I'm still lobbying for him.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Sheps.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
So I say, no, what when he comes back up,
he'll do something. I know this is going to be
the night. I know this is going to be the
night he'll do something. Brittany, He's gonna do something tonight,
I promise you.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Relax.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Comes up the next time.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Proceeds to take strike four right down the pipe, proceeds
to takes strike five right down the pipe, and then
strike six, which is the first and only done strike
that he received out of his own mind. You he
swings across, flips it up, ladies, gien when I thought
I was gonna catch it. That's how close it came
to me behind the catcher made later on and any

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you turn the play and I'm to save a running
home plate.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
That was amazing. But oh my god, it's only so much.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Supporting that I can do for number twenty eight. You
gotta give me something, Hobby.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
You gotta get the S two for his last.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Six pitches, six pitches, one one, nine strike, and that's
the one that you do.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Before he gets no, he doesn't. Some guys. Some guys,
what they may do is they may say, if I'm
getting first pitch fastball, I'm gonna swing. So they may
decide in that regard. I don't think they're digging the
boxes saying I'm first pitch swinging. I think it has
to be in a certain area the ball's coming there.
We all know. I don't think any of us are

(11:06):
saying that it that it's easy. We all know it's
really hard. You know, sliders are tough, okay, and you
have a split second. It's just true to decide it.
But in a time in which this team needs him.
Going two for his last twelve down to two fifty
four is not a good thing.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
So I was looking at the back of his jersey
and I saw four letters. I'm like, okay, one, two
through four. I was like, maybe I'm watching Juan Soda
and now Hobby Bay is taking those pitches.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Maybe he thinks he's Wan Soda.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, and he can sit there and he's got a
great eye here because at any.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Time Jan Soda can hit a bomb. But yeah, I digress.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, it's the I thought, the encouraging thing, you know,
the dramatics Chary of Carrie Carpenter on a two to
one pitch with two outs to tie it and send
it an extras.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Awesome The Guardians and Kerry Carpenter.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, there's something about this about them. Guardian the extra
ending by Will vest was discouraging. His numbers are really
good in the ninth, they're bad in the seventh and
eighth and the tenth for some reason. Can't figure that
one out. And then the Torkosen two run bomb was
encouraging two and he had four hits. He had four hits.
I thought, I will say this, I think it was
the ninth inning was the ninth or the eighth. Torkosen

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rips one down the left field line, and if that
had any loft, any backspin on it, it probably goes out,
but it's a line dry the way Stephen Kwan played
that off the wall and got it into second base
to hold him to a single. Now that was off
Gaddis Herron comes in and goes, you know, Uncle Charlie
to strike out Green and then another strike out of

(12:37):
Jake Rogers, good pinch hitter, and then a strikeout of
Dylan Dingler on an Uncle Charlie was really impressive. But
the impressive part was Stephen Kwan playing the ball off
the wall and no wonder he's won two gold gloves
and getting into second base to hold Spencer Torklssen to
a single because who knows how you pitch those those
batters differently with him at second rather the first. That's

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a big part of baseball.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
We talked about Steve Kuan before the game yesterday, like
he just finds a hit like this, guys, but it's
not even against the Tigers, just everywhere. He's a really
good hitter. He can dig his feet in, he got it.
He doesn't mind getting in trouble. That's the sign of
a good batter, if you don't mind getting in trouble
to where you look up and it's two too early,
encounters two to one, and you still find a way
to get it to three two. You still find a
way to get on base. Something else that I saw

(13:23):
that was pretty cool. I think, you know, Casey Myers
had some strikeouts, he had eight in totality, had some
good innings, you know, had some runs, but he struck
out Arius the first time he hit him with a
nasty pitch. The pitch was so nasty. I watched it
my own two eyes. Arius swings can't believe the pitch
was there. Starts walking to the dugout, then turns back

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around and looks at Casey Miles again, like I know
that pitch wasn't there.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
He was so pissed. He thought about it, and you
know what he did on his next to bet.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
He had a bomb, a bomb, He.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Had a bomb, and then he looked the case He
looked at Casey Miles the whole time. But that was
a hell of a pitch. I will tell you that
whenever you get a pitch, you never you get a hitter.
The strake saw walks the dug out halfway. They turn
back and look at that home plate. You put some
gas on that thing.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, no doubt about that. That's a that's that's a
good memory right there. I thought, Casey Mice, you know
the five and a third. Yeah, pitch count and you're
up to eighty seven pitches or so is obviously concerning. Okay,
I'm telling you, man, these guys are gonna have to
go deeper into games that you're not going to be
able to rely on a bullpen the way they did

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a year ago in the postseason. I don't believe now
they proved me wrong a year ago. But someone has
to elevate their game. And I've said this for a
while now. I've said, you know, why not Troy Melton.
People shake their head, they laugh. He's a rookie. I'm like, yeah,
say that to the giants about Madison bomb Gardner. He
was a rookie when he came on the scene. Okay,
he was pretty damn good. Andrew Jones was nineteen years

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old and he played and he played an Atlanta playoffs And.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
You don't get me excited talking about I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Just saying Bruce Keson Beck and I think it was
nineteen seventy nine somewhere around there with Pittsburgh. He was
a rookie and he was contributed. There's been time after
Jacoby Ellsbury with Boston. Okay, he was a rookie in
two thousand and seven. It's why do we think the
moment is too big for some of these guys. What's

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gonna what's going to create a bigger problem? The guy
who's got an ERA close to six and who hasn't
been able to get guys out, hasn't been able to
find the strike zone. A guy who's been up and
down and up and down, or a guy who throws
strikes and has got really good stuff. Yeah, I don't.
I don't get it. I really don't. But there's no

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decision yet. I could be way off base in this regard,
but I am concerned about past trek school bl what
you do. I just don't know many teams that have
one starting pitcher, one really good starting pitcher and end
up going to the World Series.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
It's your favorite bar partner over here, what you guys say.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
No, I agree with Shep though, because last year when
they had the pitching chaos situation, but they somehow miraculously
came back from ten and a half games back. You
knew it wasn't a sustainable product at that time, and
what they've done this year, I'd say they slightly improved
on the design from last year, but it's still a
recipe in which it doesn't really seem sustainable even with

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the additions that you made at the trade deadline. Right now, so,
I know we talk about Hovey and his missus at
the play and all that shout out.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Near a rule, but the bigger issue with me.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Going into the playoffs because I think they'll finish the
central it's really this pitching situation because it gets tough
in the playoffs. Runs are at a premium. And yes
you have Terrek Skubo and that is the great equalizer.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
You can maybe get two games out of him.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
For a series, but what does those.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Middle games look like When you have a Jack Flaherty
that you just flip a coin with him, You don't
know what you're gonna get out of him any given day.
And Casey mais who has the stuff to go out
there and pitch six scoreless, but oftentimes he leaves runners
on base and things that at nature and it could
get out of hand.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Pretty cool. I don't expect him to be perfect. Jack
flairt he's got picture strikeout stuff too. He's I don't know.
He gives up two home runs this in two innings
of me. Look, that's gonna happen in baseball. Power pitchers,
justin Vernlander gave up a lot of home runs. Okay,
power pitchers are susceptible to that. Yeah, all right. It's
about baring down. It's about giving your team some innings

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after one guy like Terrek Scuble. You don't want to
overwork your bullpen. Here's the here's the big fear too,
Like okay, it was the Detroit did it down the
stretch and they did it against Houston, couldn't get it
done against Cleveland a year ago. What if? Just what if?
Even though we think he's he and Paul Skeins are
the greatest pictures on the planet. People in Philly would

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disagree and say, Zach Wheeler, but the two best pitchers
are Terrek scoobl and Paul Skins. And we'll talk more
about that later here on the Brailan Every show. But
what if he stumbles? What if if he stumbles, what
if he stubs his toe. He's not he's not bionic.
He's already injured. Okay, Yeah, we'll see on Thursday. We'll
see tomorrow. He did stumble in the last game against

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Cleveland last year, Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
And it's not his fault.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Jeez, he's the you know, jump on his back for
crying out loud. But I think it's fair to be
slightly concerned going into a playoff series when you don't
have some stability behind that guy. That's all.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah, And I absolutely agree with you, And we talked
about that yesterday.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
They got to find a way to get some stability
behind Terry's google because he's going to have moments, you know,
and when those moments happen, you want to be confident
at number two, you want to be confident ish and
the number three right now, they're like, hey, scratcher, Yeah,
Hey scratcher, Hen scratcher.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's it's a it's a bit of a concern, and
I think it's a I think it's a fair concern
to bring up.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, concerned. Are there any of the concerns around the
city with any other teams?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It's a good question. I'm concerned about the Red Wings,
for sure, I would love you a legitimate another top
six forward on this team.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
But stevee why got pressed about his job security recently?

Speaker 5 (19:09):
So yeah, I did see that.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I find that really hard to believe, considering what he's
done for the organization and his relationship with missus Ilich. Fact,
that really hard to believe. Do you want that and
then start all over again? You know, to me, that
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you got to start
all over again. I just harken back to way back
in the day when people were complaining left and right that, oh,

(19:33):
we've made the playoffs twenty five straight years, so what
we're getting bounced in round one? My complaint to them was,
at least you're in the dance to try and make
some noise, and you can add to it. Now it's
been nine straight years. So the twenty five straight years,
folks was third all time, third most ever. Now you've
gone nine consecutive without and I believe that's the fourth

(19:56):
or fifth longest streak in NHL history. So and do
you see anything cracking this year?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, people have got to play the Krakens better
than what we're used to seeing them play because they
play in the most difficult division in the National Hockey League,
the Atlantic Division, so the hardest division in the league.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
Yeah, and not to hijack real quick because I know
we're up against it. But how long it's too long?
I think that's been the biggest question in regards to Stevie.
Why and the Eyes are playing? How long it's too long?
In y'all eyes.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't think you can put a number on it.
I think it's done by actions.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's not gonna be a deal where we just need
to fine how long is too long?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (20:37):
It'll be after the situation, like if it doesn't ever
turn around, if they don't ever win it with Stevie White,
then it black well he.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Was here too long.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Like It's not one of those things where you're gonna
be like, well, I think you know next year is
too long? You have to it is too long. Halfway
through the season is too long. It's been seven this
is eight years now, this is nine. Yeah, this is
the ninth season. I mean, if it hasn't been too
long by now, then it's gonna be what it is
eventually either they will eventually you win and you would say,
see the patience is there, Jim Harbaugh University of Michigan,
or you don't win, and now everybody's you know, turning

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over and it's like, well, we don't know. It was
too long and we should have made a move here,
or we should have solved the signs in year eight.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
You know, it should That's what it'll be.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I think in addition to that, the most important thing
is who you going to do or who you're going
to bring in I should say to take his place. Okay,
So I think everybody has been impressed with his draft picks,
maybe minus Sebastian Kosa, and less than enthused with his

(21:40):
free agent signings and trades and for nine years. Look,
you're not going to hit home runs on all of them.
To use a different cliche in a different support, but
you got to be better than given a lot of
money to certain guys that he has and that's I
think that's the issue. Now, you had a really interesting
topic before we got rolling here, and I'm excited to

(22:02):
talk about it because we happen to do things way
too quick in our society these days, and that is
passing a baton or what Brayln calls early crowning.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
That sounds and it's not what you think I know,
because that's.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Exactly what I thought it was. Trust me, I did.
I thought maybe we had to open this idea.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Up in a hospital. No, no, nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
But nothing like that. We will get to that when
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I saw two players of the last two day and
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To be kool Aid. Today, as I was leaving the doctor's.

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Appointment, who was walking into the Detroit Pistons performance None
other than not Kave, not k J.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
I do something to you. I'm not big on like
doing the selfie thing. You know what I'm saying. I
don't know if it's my eraror I don't know if
it's me respecting the space.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
But he did talk to him, told him about the show.
He says, he follows the show. He also knows who
you are as a kool Aid j and Ivy says hello.

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He says, what.

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Last night, Courdeen Muhammad? I told him.

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I said, listen, brother, whatever you do, get more sex,
they're gonna need you. I chanced to be him last year.

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At the fun Whatever, whatever you do, brother, get the quarter.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Get to the quarter, because God knows you're gonna have
your opportunities.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
I pay for your meal. In fact, you know, way
this right here, this is gonna get to that quarter.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Be careful there. That dude looks like he can eat.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, he's gonna diet.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
When kool Aid hears that about a piston that they
actually know him, he's got to run a lap.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
He looked he had.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Now once again, this was just a walk by. It
was a quick conversations, a quick tap up, and he
went my way out with myn or he went his
out in mind.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
But he did have some bounce. He was looking a
little spry with his walk.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
You know, an athlete can see a walking like oh yeah,
he's oh yeah, this is some bounce to that walk.
There's some spry in there's not limping on one side.
It's not favoring another side, doesn't look like it's It
looked like he was ready.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
To beg for him this year.

Speaker 9 (32:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, they need him, especially if that one open roster
spot is not going to be filled by number five.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
They believe in him and that's the big thing. And
j Knight they believe in.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
They believe in j Knivy. It's kind of like the
Lions how they didn't although they might have needed to,
they didn't double down in a lot of moves. They
did because they trusted their players. I think that's what
you see in out of Pistols and trays Lane.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
They believe that he is what they draft and that's awesome.
I'm really glad for that. I think there's a there's
a little bit of a misconception taking place in Detroit.
It's a narrative that they can quiet it quickly, and
that is that he and Kate Cunningham don't play well
together while on the same floor, and I disagree with

(33:12):
that wholeheartedly. I think they're two really good players. Man,
They're fine. I think they're fine. I love Jade and
Ivy's ability to dec it and drive it. Sometimes I
question his shot selection, but I love his ability. They've
got two guys like that when I'm getting too deep
in the basketball. But they've got two guys like that

(33:32):
who can create their own shot, deck it and drive it,
and really good vision to kick out to other guys.
Now they need other guys a lah Jalen Duran to
expand his game. I believe. I like that kid a lot.
A little disappointed that his numbers went down last year
compared to the year before, but he's got to become

(33:54):
more of an offensive threat from outside of five and
six feet for crying. I'd love for him to be
able to say, you know what, I'm at the elbow,
I'll take one bounce, I'll step in, and I'll hit
a twelve footer on a regular basis.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I love that, man.

Speaker 14 (34:09):
You know what you're preaching right now. I do believe
that Jalen Duran, he's the piston that you want to see.
Take no, no, no, don't try to extend this and
make this a piston segment. Now, don't be trying to
extend this and make this a pisto segment. We have
plenty of time to talk about them. I saw Rick
Mahore too. When I was a plumb market. He's a
we'll talk about him off.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Airy almost almost got him.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
I saw, I saw you you you you're ready to
jump in. We gonna talk about that team when you'll
have every.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
Team in Detroit except the Lions today.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
This is truth we have no I agree, We've got
to talk about the one everybody wants to talk about,
the Lions. And that's the beauty of what the NFL does.
I can complain left and right about Roger Goodell and
the NFL and how it treats its veterans and how
it treats its players and so on and so forth.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Nobody really cares about those things.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Uh well, that's that's the biggest problem I have with it. Yes, okay,
that's a serious problem. It's not too different than our
country caring about our veterans. But either way, you look
at it in this situation, and the NFL is soaking
It is so good, and that's what people want to
talk about every single day, and there's stuff to talk

(35:18):
about every single day. Marcus Davenport's a really good one.
Dan Campbell says, should know by the end of the week.
We can only hope and pray that he's going to
be available for Baltimore, because without him, what do you
do You literally have on your roster right now three

(35:39):
edge rushes. We know who they are, and one of
them is hurt one guy you saw today, and the
other guy is due for a big payday and finally
got his first sack and comes with a lot of
energy and love him. That's a scary situation, and I
think in our society, especially in the media, you have
to be willing to say I was wrong. And you

(36:02):
know what, I'm gonna give kool Aid and Brailan a
ton of credit here because when we were talking about
Zadarias Smith, which is second, I'm list to the most
drawn out, worn out argument in Detroit sports to the
coordinators for crying out loud. But I got tired of
it and I said I wouldn't pay him nine million,

(36:23):
and that's with incentives. And Brailan's like, chep, Are they
signing Aiden Hutchinson. The answer to that is no, not
right now. Okay, do they have salary cap, Yes they do.
Do they need the individual? Absolutely? I'm not making him
out to be the second coming of Bruce Smith, but

(36:44):
this team desperately needs it. And if we're hanging out
a prayer, bon Jovi to bring out a six round
draft pick, Hassen getting better and hopefully be a difference maker.
I think you are living out a prayer. Just throw
the damn rope up to the moon and hope your
last saw that. Son of a guy, chef.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
You just made my family so happy with that. You
made them so happy.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
I mean, not a huge fan, by the way, but
go ahead, ah now you're one of them. Correct, And
I appreciate the bon Jovi reference right there. That was
kind of smooth. It just is it sucks and you're
playing a game against the Baltimore Ravens, you know which
you know what the quarterback is going to do. And
the thing about it is you want to get guys
on your side trying to contain him, and that's not
what they can do when you don't have a rush

(37:30):
in from the side. Just saying, if Marcus Davenport is hurt,
you know, a lot of a lot was put on
him this season.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
If he's hurt, you know, we wish him healthy recovery.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
But man, who's up?

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Who's up next?

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Because right now it doesn't seem like you put yourself
in the position to have a guy. The interior for
Detroit has been fine. Yah, The interior for Detroit is fine,
Which questions the draft pick a little bit in the
sense that you had DJ Reader, you had a Lee McNeil,
and I understand maybe it was for the beginning of
the season, but those were stout guys are front. The
issue has always been on the outside or the outside

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once you saw the rise of Ad Hutchinson.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
So it just sucks that, you know, it seems.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
As if we are right back in the position as
if talking before the season, as I'm talking before last
season about what does the right side look like, because right.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Now you need a guy and he's wanted dead or alive.
To thought it about Telgence.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, I don't. I'm not complaining about the Tyler Williams
pick at all. So I hope people aren't taking it
that way because I really like him.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
He's another big, great guy in the inside.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I think he's been really good so far. He was
really good against Chicago. I'm talking about if you're not
going to address it in the draft, and that's fine,
you know me, I don't. I don't give a crap
about need I care about the player. If you don't
have one great at I.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
How many guys have been available and you passed on that,
Joey Bosa, Genavian Clowney, Zadarius Smith.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
The list goes on the guys, and you're just looking
for a serviceable guy.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
You were looking for a guy that can helped Marcus
Davenport out where he didn't have to pay eighty five
ninety percent of snaps because we know that's not what's
in his DNA. You just have a guy ready or
if he gets hurt. Hmm, what happened seems as though
he might have gotten hurt and you just don't have
that guy right now in the wings, in the stables,
ready to pounce. And this is a major game, this
is a big one form, So it just seems it

(39:13):
just seems annoying that this is something that we've talked about,
and whether you agree or not, now here we are
in the very moment that we talked about. Sometimes it's
okay to say, ah, we botched this one, and fix it.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Though, fix it fit and find a way.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
That's what good managers, not just general managers of football teams,
that's what good managers in business do. Okay, cut ties,
if you have to fix the problem now that you've
recognized it. And again, this is what I love about
this show learning. You said to me about a month ago, shop,
all I need him for is about twenty snaps, fifteen
to twenty I think you said fifteen. Actually, do you

(39:48):
know how many snaps? Zadarius Smith played for Philly last
Sunday in his first game twenty exactly what Braylan was
talking about. And I get that you're not I'm not
expecting digit sacks. Okay, I wasn't expecting that from your starter,
Marcus Davenport. What you need is the threat of doing
that and for that team to recognize we may have

(40:11):
to double team him once in a while. There's a
balance there for your defensive line.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Also, you want a guy that you bring in chef
to the guy that the defense excuse me, that the
offense has to take a look at. You know, you
want to bring a guy in and when you're watching film,
when you're studying, when you're doing scout team reps, you
got a guy that, you know what, we want to
put a little bit of infensis on whatever number this
guy is. Let's focus on this. This is what this
guy does. This is what shows up on film. So
there's a focus. If there's a focus, then that means
they're worry about him. To a certain extent. A guy

(40:37):
can give you nine sacks a season and being show
up in the scouting report as a guy that you know,
we got to pay attention and he does this well,
he does that well. When you don't have that guy,
they don't have to pay attention. Like it is a
moot point. They're not even worried about the right side.
Let's put two guys on a let's shut this down.
Let's get some chipping here and there. We're not worried
about this backside because one, they have a good offensive
line anyway. And then two it's like it's on the

(41:01):
right side. It's the left tackle that he's gonna be
worrying about. They're not worried about that.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Although Muhammad has played very well, I saw a stat
from Pro Football Focus I believe where he is sixth
through two weeks for quarterback pressures.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Not bad.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Okay, he's just behind Miles Garrett and he's behind some
big name guys. Trey Hendrickson's right behind him.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
So don't see how that shows up, and yeah, a
long sid that shows up because the first game I
didn't even know he was on the field.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
And in the second game they played.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Against an offensive line and just look beat up in
ragtat and understanding, you play against the competition in front
of you.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
And so he had a good game one.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
But want to see what that looks like against the
Baltimore Ravens, because even Dan Campbell understands and we have
that sound, that's gonna look a lot different playing against
the team that's twenty four and two against the NFC,
having those guys Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, and he's playing thirty seven percent of the stats
right now. That's gonna go up. If and that's a
big if Marcus Davenport can't get going for this week.
If he can't, it'll be very interesting to see what
they did. Because if you lose, like they just lost
Shane Zilstrap Boston to il, what did they do? They

(42:11):
promoted an offensive lineman. So what do you read between that?

Speaker 5 (42:16):
More dbs? Because now you blitz.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
So they you're you're saying you promote an offensive lineman
and there's more dbs.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
No I was saning terns, and you said, what do
they do if what defens jumped ahead?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, what is it? What do you read into that?
I read a there might not be a guy on
their practice squad good enough to be promoted. And obviously
Dan Campbell has said we're good. We've got enough guys.
I like Pad O'Connor. I like them a lot. Okay
called all his games at Eastern Michigan, happy that he
won a Super Bowl with Tampa. How many snaps are
you going to get from him? How many snaps are
you gonna get from Muhammad? How many? How much can

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you ask of Derek Barnes. Apparently they think they can
get that out of these guys, and I hope and
pray that they're right, because if they're not, this is
a turning moment for Brad Holmes and the fan base.
If they don't win.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
At all, I think, yeah, I absolutely agree, you know,
and just talking about it, the question in which I
was answering, I thought you were gonna ask on the
defensive side of the ball. If they're not adding in
another d in and now the rush end, then what
do you do on the defensive side of the ball
to give some help and I said, blitz Moore, and
that's what you'll see.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Brian Branch is a great blitzer. He reminds me of an.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Antoine Winfield type of safety in the NFL. So you
blitz more and they've done some. They've done a little
bit of that. So I think that's how you got
to help yourself. You gotta spy at number eight though,
Like I don't care what you have to do. You
need to put three eyes on number eight because that's
not enough.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
That's not enough.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
That's all you have to that's all you really have
to offer. You look at the defensive end right now,
the D line on the outside. It's gonna be tough, dude.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
The easy thing to say about Lamar Jackson is making
sure he doesn't get outside the pocket and make him
beat you with his arms, with his arm. Do you
any defensive coordinator in the National Football League who doesn't
have the same philosophy. Saying that is one thing. Doing
it is totally different.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
I'll do you one better. I'm actually cool you get
that film. I mean that conversation, right, I want to
hear a little bit of that. I'll do you one better.
The knock on Lamar Jackson in entering the draft. He's
not a quarterback. He's going to be a wide receiver.
He's not efficient. He can't stay in the pocket the
whole night. This is a conversation on Lamar Jackson. He
can run, he's a running quarterback. Blah blah blah. Fast
forward to the Scotter report that got him drafted thirty

(44:31):
second to where he is currently.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
You know where he's at.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
He has the most rushing yards by quarterback all time
in NFL history through the first eight season career. And
also you know where his passing efficiency is. It ranks
number one all time, tied with Aaron Rodgers at one
two point six. You can't just leave him in the
pocket because that's where he's been destroying teams in the

(44:54):
last two years in the pocket. You don't believe me,
Go look at last year's stats when he didn't win
the MVP and what he did. Four interceptions, forty one
hundred yards passing forty two touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, but you don't want him outside, you don't want
him rolling out.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
You don't want him on the field.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Okay, there's nothing you can do about that. So the
question is you got to pick your poison with him,
and you would rather have him in the pocket than
outside the pocket where he's a dual threat. That's my
only point.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
And they started slow, and that's the opposite side. Now
I had to hype him up because look how you
guys know how feel about Lamar Jackson. I pick him
to win the Super Bowl every year. I pick him
the MVP every year. But with that being said, they
struggle a little bit in the past, and I understand
what the numbers say. And he has four touchdowns last week.
I think he had four touchdowns in the open. But
they don't have any congruency in that office. They didn't
have any guys he's going to consistently. Mark Andrews is

(45:43):
a non factor right now. I know he was injured.
He will play against the Lions. They're trying to figure
that thing out last week, but in a non services
exparingly and then also in the run game, Oh yeah,
Derrick Henry one hundred and seventy eight yards in the
first game.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
It's this guy.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
He's gonna rumber two thousand a second time. He'd be
the first run back to ever do that. Of course,
where was he last week when he was going a
little sparring back and forth with.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
The Cleveland defense is pretty good. But yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
But I'm saying, like in two weeks, they're not the
Baltimore Ravens. But I'm saying Detroit line is gonna go
out there and get embarrassed. They're the Baltimore Ravens. I'm
saying Detroit has a damn good shot.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
They still that surprises me. You said that. I think
two weeks ago you said Lamar Jackson's twenty four and
two all time against the NFC, he doesn't lose to
the NFC.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Yeah, I didn't say. I did not say they were
gonna win, because they're still gonna lose. But I'm saying
going into this game, like going into the game, I'd
be interested to see how they lose the game.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Be ready for the constant quarterback discussion after Lamar Jackson
has the kind of day that he oftentimes does. Be
ready for that, because I would remind people as much
as you're glorifying Lamar Jackson for good reason. Jared Goff
may have not won an MVP, but since twenty twenty three,

(46:58):
Jared Goff is number one of the league yards, number
two in touchdowns, Number one in wins, which is really important.
Number two in completion percentage and number one in passing
yards per game.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
How many Super bowls is that?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
That's well, that's none. But if I wanted to turn
those tables, let's say how many Super Bowls Jed has
Lamar Jackson won.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
And that's why. Right now, what did I tell you?
I said Buffalo is a better team than them. I
don't want to hear about the regular season.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
I'm just saying, we be ready for the constant conversation
about the quarterback. It seems like we have that quite
a bit. Anytime Detroit takes on a mobile quarterback and loses.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Be ready for this conversation.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
For me, if the Detroit Lions lose and they look bad,
can Detroit beat a good team? And hear me, I
want to say this, Yes, they beat the Green Bay
Packers have been a good team.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
It's a rivalry. Rivalies happened.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
How many times have you seen the team on the
other side had no business winning in the NFL? In
college des matter Rivori is a little bit different. What's
the team that Detroit has beat?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Like?

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Yo, that's that's a signature.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Went outside of the Kansas City Chiefs two years ago
with no Travis Kelcey and no Chris Jones. And don't
give me that it doesn't matter he plays in front
of them, because it makes a difference because once they
got those two guys back, they won the Super Bowl
that year. What's the game I was looking forward to
the Buffalo Bills game dud two years ago. The Baltimore
Ravens game dud.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, I would remind you that against Kansas City, Detroit
had some guys out too, including Taylor Decker, I believe.
So you know, I get, I get.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Talking about the best tight end in the league at
the time, the best defensive tackle league at the time.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
I know one and one.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
I'm just saying we conveniently used that as the excuse
on why Detroit won. But instead of looking at who
Detroit had on the il.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Taylor Decker in that year had no. He's not the
same player as a Chris Jones and a Travis.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I'm not suggesting he is. That's what I'm telling you
is he's a starter, and Detroit missed some players too,
That's all I'm saying. So you're looking for the signature win.
Is that a signature win against the Rams.

Speaker 6 (49:02):
That's what I was going to say. It's a playoff win.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
But Detroit was favorite to win that game. It was
a home playoff game, and no, you can talk about
that one.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
That's fine.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
No, the Rams don't count.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
I think it should. It's a playoff win.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
It's a playoff win. You had home field advantage. They
came in here, they were a wild card team, and
you beat them at home. Like it was a big
win for the Lions. It got through the second round
the playoffs. But no one thought the Rams would win
that game.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I mean, but that shouldn't make it any less of
a statement game. If you beat a good team, you asked,
can they beat a good team? The Rams were a
good team. They made the playoffs. Houston is one is
I might be I'm reaching.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
No, it's not Houston.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
I'm talking about one of the teams that people have
pagg to win a Super Bowl. When they line up
against those teams, they don't do well. Okay, how many
of that, That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
In fairness to the Lions. How many of those teams
have they played the team that was expected to win
the super Bowl or get to the Super Bowl. How
many have they played. That's the first thing we have
to just side.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
We can figure that out. My problem, my question is
my answer is still gonna be the same. So just
say let's say too if you want to just go
to it's been too it's been a Baltimore Raven, it's.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Been a Buffalo Bills in the in the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Fine one and two, but embarrassing to say the least
with two of those losses.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, Baltimore was an embarrassing loss. Buffalo was close, but
they made it close late. Yeah, I think you're right about.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
It that I wouldn't even throw the Green Bay Packers,
who I believe to be a Super Bowl team this year.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
I would throw them in there. And how did that look?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Okay, it looked bad that they had won five of
the previous six against green Bay.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
So but this green Bay team isn't those green Bay teams.
Those Green Bay teams weren't super Bowl contenents in my eyes.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Can you say you're right that one of them was?
Green Bay teams went in and beat the living snot
out of Dallas when Dallas was at home, and they
didn't win double digit wins. We can, but every team
I suppose every team I bring up, you could easily
just kind of deflect and say, but they weren't this
Dots not.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
At the deflection is did you really trust in that team?
Has anybody ever trusted in Dallas in the playoffs since
ninety five?

Speaker 15 (51:05):
Say what you want about the Vikings, but the Vikings
won fourteen games last year when they beat them, and
the Lions didn't have a defense at that point time,
it's still a fourteen We've never seen that happen in
NFL history at that point, two teams with fourteen wins?

Speaker 5 (51:19):
And did you believe in that Minnesota Vikings team?

Speaker 6 (51:22):
I was definitely nervous in the game.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Did you believe in that Minnesota Viking team? Did you
think that that was a miniso the Vikings team that
was going to get to the playoffs and they would
be the one, not the Purple People leaders of the seventies,
not the Tefan Diggs catch, not that team who wasn't
Kirk Cousins, by the way, it was Case Keenan, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
I did you believe in that?

Speaker 15 (51:40):
I thought the loser of that game was gonna lose
first round, regardless to the Rams. That's what I thought
and I thought you were right, and who yeah and whoever?
And the Vikings had a more healthy roster at that time,
So and what they could have done at home, we
obviously never know, but I think the Vikings could have
absolutely won whoever they would have came against, which would
have been the Commanders, I believe. But I still think

(52:02):
the Vikings and the playoff rams win is a signature
win for the lines.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
You can have those playoff wins. I have no problem
with that.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
When I will say this is my original conversation, my
original comment stands the ground in which I placed it on.
If they look bad in this game, it's something to
worry about because they look bad in potential super Bowl opponent.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I get it. I totally understand that the potential My
only argument to that whole philosophy is a potential super
Bowl opponent. Just because people in the masses believe that
a team is going to get there doesn't mean that
they're a super Bowl contender. Do you believe if you're
not willing to believe in certain teams like Minnesota, which

(52:43):
I understand, why would you or Dallas? Why would you write?
What makes you believe?

Speaker 3 (52:48):
In Baltimore?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
They've never done it. If you didn't have the affinity
for Lamar Jackson. Outside of that, why you believe in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Because because every year the team that beats Lamar wins
the Super Bowl quarterback to beat Lamar, the team that
beats Lamar wins the Super Bowl, or they get to
the game to fall short.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
To Patrick Buffalo, Right, yeah, Okay, well and.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
He ends up losing to Kip Patrick Mahomes. At the
end of the day, the way I feel about them,
I feel like they're they're an elite team in this NFL,
and I feel like if they can't hang with the
elite team in the NFL, mine's is a feeling like
it's not.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
About your feelings a hell of a lot more justified
than most of us since you've been there. I don't
see how you can be an elite team if you
haven't gotten there. If you're not gonna give the Lions
enough credit for not getting there and beating those elite teams,
I guess I need to know who Baltimore's elite teams
are that they're beating. If you believe they're an elite team, Okay.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Right, it's how it's how they beat teams.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
It's how they've done it and Lamar Jackson's tenure and
it's one of those situations. He just happens to be
in there of Patrick Mahons, and they keep getting a
job done and they keep winning.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Like there's been a lot of he had been good
enough to beat Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen hadn't been good
enough to be Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
But you still feel as though their elite, Like how
many people were I mean, I don't okay, how many
people were elite, but they couldn't be getting by Michael Jordan.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Is that their fault?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah, it is their fault?

Speaker 5 (54:13):
He said, Oh, it is their fault.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
Yeah, I think so many they got to overcome it
when yeah, and we had It's easy.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
For the younger ara to say because you guys don't
see back to backs outside of Steph Curry everything, everybody.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
Each year is a different year, it's a different team.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
It's not the same as when Jordan dominated everybody, when
Tom Brady dominated everybody. How many people came up short
against Tom Brady. There were great quarterbacks that were great teams.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
But but you gotta admit Brolin, I mean, the guy
like Peyton Manning couldn't get by Tom Brady, and everybody
started to question, can he really be considered elite? Can
he be really considered one of the greatest of all
time if you can't get past this guy. John Elway
had the same issue with Joe Montana, not until he
won two super Bowls, actually won, but then when his

(54:57):
second and Peyton Manning won his did people actually then say, Okay,
now you've arrived. They're doing the same thing with Josh Allen,
and rightfully so, they're doing the same thing with Lamar Jackson,
and rightfully so, Baltimore. I don't believe can be elite
if they're not getting at least to that game and
giving you a reason to believe they are elite.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
The problem with the Peyton Manning thing is the reason
why they started to say, like, oh, I don't know
if you can be elite, it's because they were the
ones that crowned him elite.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
They would have won Peyton Manning year four.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
First MVP, followed by next name, Oh he's the best
quarterback ever. They crowned him and then he wasn't winning
and he had to go back and pull that statement
off the board.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Are they not doing something similar to Lamar Jackson winning
two MVPs, saying he's there, he's the greatest duel threat
quarterback in the history and making everybody believe that every
year Baltimore should be winning or at least getting to
the super Bowl, and every year they come up short
and disappointing.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Lamar Jackson isn't the reason most times when they lose.
Peyton Manning in those spots where even his super Bowl
numbers aren't good.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Uh, the Super Bowl and the rain against Chicago was
not good, even though he won m v P obviously
against the Saints. Now with Denver, his numbers were good. Yeah,
not against Seattle obviously.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
But when the Super Bowl and he won, those numbers
weren't good.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
He's won two of them. I said the one age
the Denver I thought I thought his numbers were pretty good.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
They were.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Now he limped into the super Bowl. Brock Oswelder actually
got him to.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
This one against Seattle. They were really good there. I
think they're the number and they.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Got their settle.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
I think they're the number five to ten.

Speaker 15 (56:30):
No, it's like as a season, I think they were
number are you saying like in that game in the
oh I thought, I'm talking about he.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Broke the record fifty five touchdown passes, fifty five.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
In the game.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'll have to go back and look
at that. I thought his numbers were pretty good. You know.
I would argue last year Mark Andrews and Lamar Jackson
for the reason they lost their last game is because
of those turnovers. But I mean, those are the things
that we can nickel and Diamond's not like I wouldn't
want Lamar Jackson on my team. I absolutely would. The
Dude's an unbelievable layer. But I think you sometimes we

(57:02):
get a little ahead of ourselves, and especially with the Lions,
Like I said, I'd like to know the team's Baltimore,
the quote unquote elite teams Baltimore has beaten, and how
important it will be for them to show anybody who
doubts them that they can be the good team. And
I wonder if they look at it like the Lions
are a good team, a good enough team that would

(57:24):
you would put that as a sheep skin on your
wall and say, you know what, that's a mark for us.
That's a really good win. I like that.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
I say, could commercial break and when we come back.
Let's hear some sound from Dan Campbell talking about those
Baltimore rais.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
And what does he think about Darren carry about that.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I think most people are really scared of Baltimore. And
I don't blame them because I'm I'm nervous. Look look
at what they've done eighty points. I think in two games.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
I think most teams are scared.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
But I'm like, if you watch that Cleveland game, I
think teams that have really good or excuse not really good,
a good defense and have some offense. Like I guarantee
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Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
All right, Uh, you can't count Dallas because Braylan says
no to Dallas. Did beat Buffalo all right? Regular season? Yeah,
they beat Tampa, so did Detroit. I mean Detroit lost
to Tampa last year, but beat him in the playoffs
a couple of years ago. I don't know if that matters.
I like Tampa. They did beat Washington, but nobody assumed

(01:03:49):
Washington was going to be a Super Bowl contender, so
that doesn't count. They beat Denver. Nobody thought Denver was
going to be anything, so that doesn't count.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
They blew Denver out. Make sure you tell the whole story.
Forty one to ten, that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
They wanted Houston. It didn't work for Detroit, so it
doesn't work for Baltimore. And then they lost to Buffalo
in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
At the end of the day, I'm a field guy
and I stand by my comment. I feel as though
the Lions need a win against a serious opponent on
the road, which is exactly the game.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
They win.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
This game.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
There's a different view on the Detroit Lions. You don't
have to believe me. Just listen what happened in your
own the fan base. Detroit go out there and winning Baltimore.
What are you saying about them? How do you feel
if they beat them? It's not the same as if
they beat the Saints. It's not the same as it
Even if they.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
Beat Green Bay. You was like, well, we own green
Bay anyway. We don't care about Mike. It was one
game we weren't ready.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
If you beat Baltimore, if you beat Buffalo, you're like, yeah,
that's the best point you've made. Wait in a minute, Yeah,
I was trying to find start to that point we
start to bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Maybe that's how I should have said it, because they
beat some good teams. I policed. I never said they
didn't be playoff teams. I said they didn't beat that team.
That's what I meant. If you beat Baltimore, how are
you gonna respond?

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
So I guarantee you a lot of everybody's gonna walk
in and work on Monday and ain't gonna be able
to tell you not a damn thing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
This team is not on the level of those teams,
of those squads.

Speaker 14 (01:05:20):
But I do remember how Lions fans were, include myself,
when we finally beat the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
I remember that game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
If it's not on that it couldn't beat the Sea
but they couldn't beat them.

Speaker 14 (01:05:31):
A couldn't solve them, and they housed us and then
they face mass the freaking face mask game us. When
we finally beat them, fans everywhere were like, oh my gosh,
offense can beat anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Out There are wins that have happened, and you can
see the different levels of the Lions over the past years,
whether it was whether it was when he beat the Chargers. Now,
I know the Chargers weren't necessarily that good that they Now,
you remember when he went out to La beat the Chargers,
like that was a different feeling. He was like, whoa,
we went on the road. You felt good about that?

(01:06:04):
When you start dubbing the Green Bay Packers and on them, yeah,
said oh man. When you were dominating the forty nine
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Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Quarter, everybody went to their drawing got medium.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
Mine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Absolutely, me too.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
I was like, I told you, look at that many
a different team. Yeah, that's why be cheering for them.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
And at the Jets right if they beat the Ravens though,
just okay, just put a team this way regardless of
who was out, because people were out on both sides
and they were coming back.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
They were getting their rings the whole night yard.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
When you beat the Kansas City Chiefs opening Night in
twenty twenty three, that was the game where everybody said
all right, cool now.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
It took the energy and it took the conference level
to another level.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
I think this Baltimore win will be that the Eagles
in November, that's a team ABO. I can't wait till
you do your top ten beers. I don't think they're
I don't think they're necessarily in the top three. But
the Eagles on the road in philm what's conversation about
Jared Goff in the wintertime on the road, open air stadiums.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I'm with him, so I think the I will say this,
the conversation after they went over Kansas City, as nice
as it was because they were defending Super Bowl champs
and all that other stuff, there were a lot of naysayers.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Not kool aid.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Not kool aid because when I first year, he prefers
to the lines as we like he's suiting up on
a Sunday afternoon. But there were a lot of naysayers
who said, yeah, but they were without those two guys,
Chris Jones on the defensive side and Travis Kelcey on
the offensive side.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
I used that in Iran in a conversation against you
because it worked in my favorite. Now I'm gonna have
a conversation with you on the same team. I don't
give a damn who was out, because realistically, what did
that team do the year before?

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
Won the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Same coach, same quarterback, same defense, minus one guy same
and D three as a Super Bowl team. So yes,
that win counts for the Detroit Lions. But see, now
we on the same side. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
I get I pulled them back over all right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Here we go, there we go.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
I'm back. I'm back, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Speaking of the Lions, Isaac Tesla is a guy who
has made, as you've done in Braylan's breakdown, which was fantastic,
some really acrobatic catches. How do they get him more
involved than? Should they get him more involved? Because I've
been crying for it, all right. You kind of put
me in my place pretty good before the show and
explained it well, I mean, it really settled me down.

(01:08:20):
I'd like you to share that with the audience if
you could, because I think it's a really good insight.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Yeah, one hum percent.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
I'll give my take in and you listen to Dan
Campbell because he said some of the same things, which
I'm happy even though we said it already. The thing
about it is, Isaac Tesla has made two magnificent catches.
He's had two targets, two magnificent catches. Now everybody wants
him to get the ball and taking it further it's
been more than two magnificent catches, because if you count
the preseason, he was ten to thirteen targets to catches

(01:08:46):
or eleven to thirteen and then obviously some also ESPN
or Wood Sports Network worthy highlight plays. So you see
the track record there in terms of getting him more
into the offense, in terms of featuring him more or
more packaging or more plays or more passes.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
Who are you gonna take those from? It's two folk.
Who are you gonna take those from?

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
Because if you passed the sam La Porter, is anybody
mad if you get amar ros Saint Brown, Jamier Gibbs,
Jamison Williams, Khalif raymon If Khalif catches passes, You're not
gonna get mad.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
Because he's making plays.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Brock Wright scored a touchdown, You're not getting necessarily angry
about that. You're gonna take touchdowns off the board to
get him acclimated to the system, So it's not necessarily
all right. We're gonna feature him on these four plays.
These are your four plays, and we'll get you four touches,
and we'll work that in its touches within the plays
that he's already in. On that pass kalif Ray McCarty

(01:09:42):
at one catch, fourteen yard pass. You know who was
wide open on a post route down the field. Hello,
it was number eighteen. Isaac touched a lot. He had
two steps on the cornerback, no safety help. This is
a touchdown. But this is how he gets more plays
because it's the trust in Jared Goff. It's Jared Goff.
Now look him because now every time Jared golf is

(01:10:02):
gone to Isaac Tesla, what has it been. It's been
a one hand catch, it's been a highlight reel. It's
been a touchdown. It's been a play that got out
of my road. Put a touchdown right before the half,
A big play. Now, if I'm Jared Goff, he's already
in on plays. I don't have to feature him.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
I just got to look at him. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
It's sorry cool. I know that it's third and four
or second and five. He's wide open on this. I
could dump it the leaf. Leaf can get fourteen yards
first down. This is a good play. Now we got
the next play. But I know eight teams down there
and I know eight teen. Every time I throw him
the ball, he makes the play. Now, Jared Goff was like, shoot,
the hell with Eighteen's gonna make something happen. Now you

(01:10:42):
start to see him in offense more. It's not necessarily
giving future plays which will happen. It's about Jared Goff
taking a look of things he's already in on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
That's a great explanation. I wasn't referring to getting the football.
I'm talking about getting him snaps, getting him involved in
the offense.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Just one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
I look, every wide receiver, you know it better than
I do. Everywhere receiver, the good ones want the ball
all the time. I don't blame you, Yeah, because you
make plays. That's what you do. You make catches, you
know what to do afterwards. You are a consistent performer.
You can't go to Iman Ross Saint Brown every time.
You can't go to Jamison Williams Deep every time. You
can't go You're gonna have to play three wide receivers. Anyway,

(01:11:22):
Why isn't he that number three? Now I was to blame.
I said he's going to be the three. You said
it was gonna be Kalief Raymond. You said it won't
be until like maybe week six. Well, I think they're
going to incorporate him a little bit more. And Dan
Campbell agrees. He has said to the media this week
they are looking at that and this is what he

(01:11:44):
said to the Lion's flagship station in Detroit.

Speaker 9 (01:11:47):
The more guys you have on and have have a
skill set, you know. One of the things we like
about him is, you know, okay, you're seeing he's got
an opportunity to make some plays he's made some place,
but he'll also mix it up in the run game.
He's a big guy, he's physical, he's not afraid to
go in there, so and he's pretty smart. You know. Now,

(01:12:08):
we don't want to put too much on him, but
yet man, he's you know, we got to get him
more involved than we will. We're gon we're gonna put
him out there, but that only helps Saint Brown, It
helps Jamo, it helps Gibbs, it helps Laporta. You know
that that's that. It only helps So at some point
there's gonna be somebody that's gonna draw one on one

(01:12:31):
and that person's got to win. So it's good to
see him get better. We're gonna use him a little
bit more here, but we're still going to use everything
we've got too. I mean, Leaf's a part of this
and you know, we get Vicky back this week, you know,
so we we like where we're at.

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
I love the fact that he mentioned Leif.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
That kind of like a happenstance that was like, yeah,
you know Leif and it's it's almost over. But the
news is the NFL is at all time high in
terms of kick return, in terms of punt return and return,
So Calif you still have that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
He's valuable.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
Yeah, he's very valuable. The best thing too, is he
talks about the run game. I'm gonna go back to
Jamison Williams and go back to the charging game. Go
back to when Jamison first got on the field. The
best thing about Jamison Williams that they loved for the
Lions because a lot they did not like it with
the immaturity. It was the drops he couldn't. He tried
to catch everything with his body early.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
On in his career. It's the blocking.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
He always put his hat in there is it is
talked about, it is focused on. You see the same
thing with Ama Ro Saint Brown. You see the same
thing with that room fast forward. They stayed with Jamo
because of that. Now getting to Tesla, this is what
he does.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
He's a big guy. We saw in the preseason. He's blocking,
he doesn't mind. He mixes it up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
That's how you stay on the field. Like when I
was in Michigan, that's what endeared Lloyd Carr to me.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
I did not mind blocking.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
So he put it with all my other bs because
I was gonna go out there and put a hat
on the hat. So Chris Perry, Mike Carr, insert running
back and get on the outside. The same thing happened
when I got to the Jets. Like Rex Ryan loved
that I blocked.

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
Hell Romeo, cause now that was the best thing he
liked about me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Is that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
When I was in Cleveland, it's the same thing. Dan
cambll was an old guy. He's an old school coach.
He sees this blocking. Hey, hey, hey, I don't give it.
You know what they created Johnny mo get eighteen ball game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
What does he mean when he says we don't want
to put too much on him, because that's a to
me that stuck out. That stuck out a little bit.
Thinking of a guy who played in the preseason right
as you mentioned, performed in the preseason. Seems to be
a pretty smart dude everything, But it's not just that
you know you're right he does. He's got great hands.

(01:14:35):
I'm sure the gloves help. But I when you say
put too much on him, are you saying he can't
absorb the offensive playbook? How do you read what he
what he means by that?

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
The receiver then he is teslaon Like he's a guy
who's trying to learn a lot right now so they
can have him in the same time as Jama. What
that means is he has to learn multiple positions. He's
probably the only played slot. Like every time you saw
him in Arkansas, like he's running through the sea, he's
going on a go router, He's going on a deep
over route.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
So he has to learn the multiple positions. He's got
to learned X, which is the receiver that is on
the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
You gotta learn Z, which is the receiver that is
off the ball that does the majority of the motioning.
And then you got to learn A some people some
teams call it H, some teams call it a B.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
But A is the slot receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
I'm al say, Rownd knows all of those positions. Jamo
knows one of those positions. Jamo knows the Z, and
he does some trick plays, some gadgety things, some moving around,
but he has one position.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
So now you got to get him on the field.
What position is he gonna play?

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
So now he's learning this position now also trying to
learn the plays that you have for him, like hey
on this play. So that's why when he says he's learning,
they got plays for him right now. Just structure head
is going to go route going over going a post route.
But in terms of learning position and being able to
move as the other three do move in unison, it
takes some time. It took Jamo time to learn that office.

(01:15:57):
This is a complicated, a complex off. That's one thing
about the system. It's a similar system is the guy
before Moran. It's a similar system with Johnny MoES and
still with some nuanced things. You got to make sure
you know this thing down pack because you can get
in that game and have a mess up and have
a blow up, and you don't want that to be
the case. So they're putting him in the spots that
work for him now, and the more they see out

(01:16:18):
of him, the more they trust, the more they'll put
him in.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
What do you think he's recognized in his first two
NFL games that he didn't experience in the preseason or
at the collegiate level.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
In that first game, he realized, well, just watching that,
it doesn't matter what you do on the outside. If
they can't protect you, not go get the ball. So
get used to blocking, or get used to staying in
the game, like getting used to you know, it's not
happening for you right now, be available.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
I think that's the best thing he's learning. Both games.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Actually, you know he didn't play but a couple players.
In the Green Bay game he was able to come in.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
What did you do?

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
He called a touchdown pass and not any touchdown pass,
nasty touchdown pass.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
And in this game, you know he.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Played a couple of players in the first half. What
do they do right before the half? They call him
in there and he's ready and he makes a play.
Is something to be said about a guy that can
stay the course, stay the course, and stay prepared and
stay ready for when his number gets caught, because those
hamstrings get tight. Ron gets tight when you're sitting on
that sideline.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Good stuff, Uh cool aid to anything in the chat
that you want to get to, because sometimes talking to
we forget about that. I know somebody at the chat
brought up the fact that the Ravens last year, on
Bray's argument, also lost to the Steelers and the Browns.
So they said, stop it, that's a little ridiculous, And
actually they have a not that that specific point, but

(01:17:32):
they do have a good point. We can talk about
the good teams that they have not beat, what about
the bad teams that they've failed to beat? Sometimes that
can be as glaring, like I'm not excusing the Lions
losing to Tampa and Buffalo last year, but at least
they lost to two good teams. Some teams, not all,
but some teams are losing to teams that you would
have thought they should have beaten. What does that tell

(01:17:55):
you about that team leadership, character, preparedness, whatever. But and
I know, look, it's really you're gonna say this. It's
really hard to win every week in the NFL. You
can't expect it. So there are certain teams, Okay, I
call them justifiable losses. Baltimore Ravens losing two a team

(01:18:17):
like the Raiders or like the Browns is not a
justifiable loss in my mind. So it's a good point
by somebody who's joined us in the chat go ahead,
cool Ai. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 14 (01:18:28):
And there's a couple of people in here who have
mentioned to what Baitlan was talking about as well.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
With Isaac Tesla.

Speaker 14 (01:18:34):
They believe that he plays physical, plays angry, and that
he blocks angry as well, which is what enduars a
lot of people is not just the fancy catches, but
they do believe that he's somebody that is contributing, like
Jmo in the beginning when he was trying to sift
through some of the maturity things and sift through what
he has to learn to stay on that field more.
When he did get in there, people are saying they

(01:18:55):
really like the fact that he plays angry and they
want to see him take that third spot, and they
do believe that Isaac Tesla should be the guy to
play in the more physical aspects.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
In your red zones.

Speaker 14 (01:19:05):
It should be automatic when you're in those third downs
and in passing yards to go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
You want Tesla. In Bray's point, when does Khalif Raymond.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
Play to their point, they don't want them to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. They said that on the
special team stuff. Yeah, And just so we're clear, Isaac
Tesla doesn't have any maturity issues from what we could tell.
You could say that about Jamison Williams, but he has grown.
Let's give credit where credit is due. You can complain

(01:19:39):
about a twenty or a twenty one year old, but
if that twenty or twenty one year old is learning
from mistakes and growing, you need to give them credit
for that too, And then he deserves.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
It also too.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
You know, it's about patience, you guys. So let's be
patient about what we said. We want you to be
patient about Isaac Tesla. And since maybe the Lions didn't
want to show them because they didn't want to show it,
you know, maybe they got a package where they First
of all, I know they have a package. We saw
it in the preseason where you're gonna line him up
out there in the red zone. Once he gets in
the Redson boom, take a shot on the favor I'll
take a shot on the post route and put him
out there blocking use him as a decoy. There'll be
some things that come. You didn't need him last week.

(01:20:10):
I mean, you missed some plays and score fifty two.
So it's like, let's pipe down. You know it'll happen.
Baltimore is gonna be a game where they're gonna have
to do some of that, like it is. What is Baltimore?
Is that good of a team. You don't think they're elite,
That's fine. They're that good of a team that you're
gonna have to do something out of normal. You're gonna
have to put your playmakers, playmakers in position.

Speaker 5 (01:20:31):
To make plays. And he's shown us that he is
none other than a playmaker. No shout out to and
Bra just real quick, because this thing is kind of
breaking up.

Speaker 14 (01:20:38):
In the chat, I see Anthony Patterson, he say, get
some dag on sides in there, Tesla against a physical defense.
And then you get RF who says he doesn't believe Khalif.
He says Khalif is okay, but he doesn't feel like
he instills fear. He believes that Tesla scares people. But
Joso said, no, I'm pretty sure when Raymond lines up
in front of you, you're not feeling that good about it, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
I don't know if I don't think Isaac teslaw it
goes on the field and corners feary.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
No, not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
I think they may respect. I don't know many you
could tell me if I'm wrong. Here a lot of
the really good corners, they don't fear anybody. They want
the challenge, They want to match up against brayln Everts.
They respect them. They know damn well how good he is.
They know what he can do to them. I don't
know if fears the right word.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
To fear is a good thing, because fear prepares you.
Fear it makes you go above and beyond. Fear makes
you pay attention. Fear it makes you come up with
a game plan. So I don't know if they fear
Isaac Tesla. They fear what he has the ability to do.
And if you get a dB out there one on one,
it's five six seven yard favor round. He fears that

(01:21:48):
Isaac Tesla, who's six four two twenty, who has forty
ins where he fears he can get up in the air.

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
There's nothing I can do.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
I may have to get a pass inference, which is
gonna put them at the one yard line.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
So there is fear in there. I don't fear him.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
I fear what he can do potentially, like if he
has a if it works in his favor on this
particular rep, I fear what the outcome may be, Like
going against Darrel reeves. I don't fear in revers I
ain't scared of revis silent. But I know if he
put his hand up under my neck and I wasn't ready,
then I wouldn't be able to get off the line
of scrimmage. I knew if he was in phase late,

(01:22:22):
it was gonna be a fifty to fifty chance if
I could make that thorough. I knew if he said
on my route, he knew what I was gonna run.
I knew it was a chance can be a pick
sick if I don't get on my horse. I fear
elements of you know, the coverage. I fear elements of
what could happen if I wasn't prepared. I didn't fear
twenty four.

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the chest Durando, He's sent this in yesterday. I want
to autographic age cards from Braylan my twins, the biggest
Michigan fan and Brailen is all time favorite.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
I gave him one and he literally cried and said
no way, he couldn't believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
Rando, I just want to say, I told you guys
when I got you, and I appreciate you for all
you do for the show and way to pull up
on you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
Your brother, you knew it was his. He gave it
to him, and that's what the response I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Got. Some day, Okay, bring and bring your son. We
would we would welcome that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
Anytime.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
It's not we would miss you in the chat, but
maybe during commercial breaks we could hear what you have
to say.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
You can bring his laptop set up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
You are welcome to join us. We would love that.
This was a little confusing. Somebody wrote, look, I'm the
done data big enough to admit when I say something
embarrassing that nobody's agreed with. Shepp and Bray couldn't relate.
I'm confused at that take since I earlier said, look,
I was flat out wrong about Zaderia Smith number times

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where you've said the same thing to me. That's a
little confusing. Maybe he can clarify it. I don't understand
what you're referring to it all. Where you get that
take at all, because we are self deprecating here on
the show.

Speaker 14 (01:30:15):
Well, if you want to be if we got black
rock on the black screen twenty percent off.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
I think I may have heard his feelings yesterday with
my comment. If I did, I don't apologize.

Speaker 6 (01:30:22):
I was going to say, I apologize absolutely nobody boo.

Speaker 5 (01:30:26):
Yeah is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
And I disagree with you take. It's okay, It's not
a problem you disagree with mine all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
That's look, folks, I hate to tell you this, man,
but that's that's what sports is about. We're going to
have debates, and we're gonna have a debate right now
because each week. We're going to do a top ten
from the weekend before it is going to change. That's obvious,
all right, because teams are going to be high, they're
going to be low. Let's see how many state in

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your own predictable top ten all season long. We'll find out.
But right now, we're gonna do our top ten teams
in the NFL, all right, So we'll go unveil mine,
and then you can kind of bounce off that. I
don't know if kool Aid's got it, but I think
he does, although I much probably rather stare at that
lobster and steak on black rock ut.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
We'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
We'll go in as sending order. My number ten is
San Francisco. Now remind you that brock perty is one
of five key starters out. Mac Jones came in through
three touchdown passes last week. They look pretty damn good.
I think it's a good football team. I don't think
it's a great football team. San Francisco's for me is
at number ten. At number nine is Washington should be

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concerned about Jayden Daniels injury has not looked like the
Jayden Daniels of last year. But it's only two games.
They're one and one on the season. I think if
he's healthy, I think they are a legitimate division threat,
even though Philly's the best team in the division. I've
got them right now at number nine, number eight, I've
got the Rams. Matthew Stafford. Right back at you, Matthew Stafford.

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Really nice win in Tennessee. I know what Tennessee is,
but the way he handled himself, like DeVante Adams said
to him, Dude, you're the coolest cat I've ever played with.
And he's played with Aaron Rodgers, who's pretty cool. Matthew
Stafford took it upon himself to really get after, throw
a couple of touchdown passes and make sure the Rams
won comfortably. I think he's a really good dare I say,

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great quarterback. I've got the Rams at number eight. At
number seven, I got the Chargers, and I got the
Chargers because I think they can beat you in a
lot of different ways. I think they can run it
down your throat. I think their defense is really good
and kind of underrated. And Justin Herbert is starting to
come into his own again. It's early, it's two games,
but he's starting to come into his own. At number six,

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I've got your Detroit Lions. We're gonna be really. The
first thing I noticed about this shot is him his
hand on the football, just like you showed us.

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
The only thing he's doing wrong in there, The one
pressure point he's missing is ball was supposed to touch
his ribcakes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
But he's flexing his muscle, so that's what he has
to do.

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
He doesn't fumble, so he can care about how he
wants to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Fit in the brailin right now. That there you go.
When you average a point eight yards per play, you
deserve to be bumped up. And the Lions are too good,
they're too talented for them not to be in the
top ten. I got him at number six. At number five,
I got Baltimore Lamar Jackson last week through four touchdown
or two touchdown passes, ran for two more.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
He is a threat, he's a danger. Their defense has
been leakier than I thought it would be, but they're
still good enough to be in the top five. I've
got a surprise at number four. I've got Tampa. Now,
this is prejudice on my part because I said Tampa
is a legitimate NFC contender, not the South. I meant
the entire conference. I think their defense is badass. I

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think Baker Mayfield is an absolute dog. I think Mike
Evans still looks like he's twenty five. And I think
they got a double headed monster at the running back spot,
Kate Otton. I think it's a pretty good tight end.
I like Tampa a lot. I've got them at number four.
At number three, this pains me, but I've got the Packers.
I know both wins are at home. I don't care. Man,

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they were impressive, really impressive. I don't care if it's
Jordan Love with the offense or Micah Parsons on defense.
The Green Bay Packers look really good through the first
two weeks of the season. Number two, I've got Buffalo.
Josh Allen with the bloody nose last week, will wear
a visor. That's okay. He wore a visor at Wyoming.
He should be just fine. I got Buffalo at number two.
I think they're really strong. I love their one two

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punch at the tight end spot. I worry a little
bit sometimes about the wide receivers, but Josh Allen can
help him. And Number one is Philadelphia. They deserve it.
They're the defending Super Bowl champs. They went into Kansas City,
and even though it wasn't a massive win, it was
lower scoring than I thought. There's still the team to beat,
and everybody should know that I got them at number one.

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How far off am I? In your mind?

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
We got eight of the ten teams, eight of the
ten of the same We have eight of the same teams.
I think we just our top five is a little
bit different. Our top five is a lot different.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
You got Baltimore at one, Huh?

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
I actually do not. I actually do not, all right, Jerk.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Number ten for me is the Indianapolis coach looks after
we too, you know, saying I believe in his defense,
always have.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
And I like what they're doing on the offense side.

Speaker 6 (01:35:40):
Danny Dimes.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
He's setting up for the upset. Man. Look, I got
the Colts and the Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
I like that. Good for you taking a chance. No,
I'm serious, one for you. I couldn't do that. I
couldn't take that chance you were willing to do it?
Credit where creditors do IM with the Colts at number ten.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
That's also too. I just want to show you our
picks from last week. Picked the Coats to win by
the way last week, So I just watched I'm a
game ahead of the curve. So I got the coach
coming in at number ten. Nine, I got the Cardinals. Really,
I like what they're doing. Look, man, sometimes it takes time.
I think for Shane Styking and Gannon. Jonathan Gannon, you

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liked what I did there the Eagles two seasons ago.
Think it took them a year. They're starting to find
their work. And I like what the Cards are doing.
I like the physicality. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
James Connor is a battery and it always looks like.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
This first two three weeks and season with the Cardinals.
They're either like two and one or they played some
really good games and they get trunks in the end.

Speaker 5 (01:36:32):
But I like them as of now. So give me
them at nine. At eight, give me the Los Angeles Rams. Okay,
same thing you said.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
I like them like everything they have to give me
eight Los Angeles Rams at seven. Give me the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. I want to rank them higher.

Speaker 5 (01:36:49):
I love them a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
Elijah Kantsy getting injured, that is a major major move.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
Not to mention testing Wurbs is still out and they
still find ways to win. I love this team.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
I told you that they were gonna win to see
South as well. Give me them at seven. At six
Detroit Lions, I got the same. We didn't even compare
those at Detroit Lions and six. I took San Francisco out,
by the way. Mac Jones does not doing for me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
I know, took Washington out too.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
I don't like how that looks. Austin Ecklers, he's not out,
he's out out for the season. Don't like how it
looks they can't get the wives. He was involved in
the game. Just doesn't look like a sophomore slumps. It
just looks like something's not right with their offense, if
you will. So that's why I took them by six
Detroit Lions, and they you know how they can climb
up this list. You know what the Lions can do

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to climb.

Speaker 6 (01:37:36):
Up the number two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
If they beat Baltimore, you think you would have him
at number two. Yes, this time next.

Speaker 5 (01:37:43):
Week, because now I go into Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Yes, and they beat Baltimore, you're gonna have him at two.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
They went on the road, they beat a team, and
I think you'll see in two seconds, you know how
I feel about them. They went on and got that
done after they just put fifty two on the NFL team.
I don't care what you got your rolling your eyes, No.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
I was looking up stairs to see if they're gonna
go solo.

Speaker 5 (01:38:05):
A think so. Look, Detroit Lions come in a six
kool aid, give me a solo. Let him do his thing.
Detroit Lions come in at six. I got Philly at five,
Philly at five?

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
What first, first and foremat first, first and foremost. I
have Philly at five. But understand what they're coming from.
I understand that they're two. Or though I understand who
they are, I did not like how they looked in
the last game. And even though Chris Jones is a
sore loser, made the comments that's why you only hit,
I think that's BS.

Speaker 5 (01:38:34):
But I agree with him that passing game, you got
one of the best wide receiverson in league. You can't
give them the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
They're they're two or fourteen that passed twenty yards. They
can't pass the ball down the field. They haven't looked
like the same unbeatable Eagles that they were last year.
It's still a good team and they deserve everything's coming
to them. But just in my rankings. They don't look
that unbatible because I don't like the Chiefs. I don't
like what the Chiefs look like. The Chiefs were away
from winning them the bad game. So give me the
eag Is at five, give me.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
The Chargers at four. I believe it. It ain't no wow.
I believe in the Chargers. Chargers.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
The reason why I believe it is because they're doing
it on defense, which they've been doing it, but not
like this shout to Jesse Menser. Also on offense, it's
not the running game that is the catalyst for them.
It is the offensive line and Joe up, which everybody
was questioning hard about for drafting out of Notre Dame. Now,
guess who has time. Guess who had five thousand yards

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as a rookie with no offensive quarter and no offensive line.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
And by the way, they moved Joe All from right
tackle left tackle like we.

Speaker 5 (01:39:36):
Were gonna do a once upon a time until he
just became too good a right tackle. I like this
Chargers team.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
They will figure off the running game like that's where
they're wek at right now, and that's technically where they're strong.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Chargers. I agree with you number three. You guessed it.
Baltimore Ravens. I got to Baltimore Ravens three. I think
they're just as good as Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
Guess what, they didn't beat Buffalo, regardless of how the wind,
Buffalo got the dub. That's why Buffalo is number two
over to Baltimore Ravens. And that just leaves one team,
and it ain't the Commanders or the forty nine ers.

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
It's the green Bay Packers, green Bay package number one,
number one.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Who you picked to win the North. People are aware
before the season began you picked them to win the North.
So did your dad, by the way.

Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
Yeah he first of all, my dad picked them to
win the North back in February.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Yeah, he told me at your party, I'm picking. We
had a good debate about that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
It can change one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
But when green Bay has done two playoff teams, two
really good playoff teams. Look at the Detroit Lions and
you look at with the Washington Commanders, you still believe
they're gonna be They man handled them. They man handled them,
and they're the two best wins for a two or
o team.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
That's how I did the great point.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
Yeah, the defense looked amazing in both games, averaging four
sacks and Jordan Love he no longer has the pressure
of having to be the catalyst with a good defense.

Speaker 5 (01:40:53):
He can just be a good quarterback with a great defense.
So Green Bay number one.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
That is that is such a good breakdown?

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Why like thorough no, seriously, I start to think about
him if you're looking at it. Just from this synopsis
the two games. Who's got the two best wins in
the National Football Packers the Packers. It was right, Packers.
I can complain that both at home. It doesn't matter. Okay,
there's a lot of teams that lose at home. High
Lions to Washington a year ago. What did I say?

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Week one? Seven home teams lost. Week two, seven home
teams lost. So it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
Power stat like how you setting it up?

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Like you know, I'm quite honestly, I'm a little disappointed.
I put them at three right now. That's that's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Lions though, Lions definitely and I understand if Lions beat
the Baltimore Ravens, I definitely think they climb because I
got Green Bay one and then I got Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
Yeah, they could climb. They climbed the three yeah, I
won't put them. I won't put them before Buffalo, but
they'll climb to a strong three and.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
It's impossible to put them ahead of green Bay when
green Bay beat him head ahead and beat them as
the decisively might be a little bit of a strong one.
But yeah, okay, that's great stuff. Appreciate it very much.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
I appreciate yours well done.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Yeah, I love the breakdown for sure. All Right, we
have a tendency to crown players and teams and entertainers
pretty quick at our society. I don't know why it's
so hard for us to take a step back and
go I'm gonna wait and see, But that's just the
way it is. Yeah, okay, So everybody wants to be
first rather than right, and you've got an example of

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that recently in the entertainment world, don't you.

Speaker 13 (01:42:30):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
Look as it is to sports, everything chef said is
exactly correct. And I believe that conversation started.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
You guessed it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
Lebron and MJ once Lebron sexuals as their call. Once
they came over, once they came over there. And by
the way, the narrative started when they won their first
championship in Miami, which would have been his what you
guessed it first ring. They're trying to cry, But I
think that's when it started having the conversations, Well, Lebron's
better than Michael George Patrick Mahons hadn't even won the

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Super Bowl. Well let's just say one one, Oh my god,
mahomes is gonna be better than Brady. THENY one's two,
mahomes is better than Brady. Three mahomes is He's still
four behind.

Speaker 5 (01:43:07):
And we saw what happened in the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Super Bowl last year, and Brady's played in ten one hundred.
To your point of Lebron, they did it with Kobe
They hell, they did it with Harold Minor for baby Jordan. Yeah,
baby George, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
Some of the young kids too, you know. And I'm
not saying it's an airor deal with it's all gen z.
I'm just saying in this era, because there's fifty year
olds to do it, sixty year olds to do it,
twenty year olds to do it. Like all the kids
talking about Mike Trout is better than Barry Bonds.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
I remember Version of time.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
I heard that, Well he's eight MVPs and this, that
and the third. You have got to be kidding me
to think that that is even a conversation. But the
one I saw today had nothing to do with sports,
and I just like, what are we doing in society?
Don't know if it is completely factual, but I know
a lot of people believe this, so I can bring
it up. They think Beyonce has surpassed Michael Jackson in

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some way, shape, fashion and form.

Speaker 5 (01:43:57):
First of all, he's the king of pop, not the
queen of pop.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
And he didn't give that Moniker.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
Also, it didn't take his wife to come on staying
and say no, my husband is the best of all time.

Speaker 5 (01:44:08):
As jay Z has done for Beyonce.

Speaker 6 (01:44:10):
Kudos as you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Said when somebody was presenting somebody else an award. Yeah, yeah,
it's like we.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
Have got to stop, we have got to stop.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
I went and looked at Mike's his uh just you know,
some of his history, some his awards, some achievements, some
of his records which still stand. I started writing him
down so many that I had to print him.

Speaker 5 (01:44:36):
Out and it just kept going and going and going.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
Yeah, this is twelve page, twelve pages of records and
crazy things and he's done. I don't know in what,
in what category in what capacity. Why are we so
eager to crown the next one? Why we so like
in my area was you had to you had to
go out and do it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
In fairness to Beyonce, and I'm not going to sit
here and blow small, I can't sing a damn thing
she sings. Okay, I don't know. It's just not me.
But she's really attractive. Obviously that doesn't have anything to
do with it. What it has to do is, I mean,
here's a guy who was named the King of pop.
He didn't give him this. He's not Lebron James. Where
I'm writing it on the back of my shoe, I'm

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doing it myself. I'm promoting myself. He didn't do that.
In fairness to Beyonce, though she's been at it a
long time, she has Okay, it's not like she's brand
new and we're just crowning her. We have taken or
she has, or whoever said it has taken their time
before they've done that. I just think it's kind of
a ridiculous comparison because I don't think anyone can come

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close to Michael Johnson or Michael Jackson, and.

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
They can't close come close to him either Michael shouts
to the gold Shoes.

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
Michael Jackson had his first number one on the Billboard
two hundred and eleven.

Speaker 5 (01:45:54):
D Hard Stop.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
He had his first number one hit on the Billboard
two hundred Like this is this is when the age
at age eleven stars to lax like Beyonce is a dope,
She's a dope artist. She appears to two people, two
types of individuals. Michael Jackson appeared to everyone. Everybody. Everybody
was passing out, not just women for Beyonce, not just

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others for Beyonce.

Speaker 5 (01:46:22):
Everyone is passing on for Michael.

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
Grown men in the audience, they got two kids and
ain't on the download passing out because of Michael.

Speaker 15 (01:46:29):
I think it's I think people crown you know, this
next kid, this next goat because they want.

Speaker 5 (01:46:35):
To be in that era what they want to be
in the same era, and it's happened with me.

Speaker 15 (01:46:40):
No, No, I think it's they want to be like, well,
I told you five years ago that Patrick Mahomes is
going to surpass Brady. I think that's the ultimately what
they want to say, they want to be first. It
does it doesn't mean that it's right. And Beyonce is
not fair than Michael Jackson. Mahomes is not fair than Brady.

Speaker 6 (01:46:56):
But I think it's just the fact that, oh, I
want to be right to say this.

Speaker 15 (01:47:00):
I remember when Lamar Jackson was first like really getting
out of the running back narrative, that people were like,
Lamar Jackson's the next goat, Lamar Jackson's the next greatest thing.
I was seeing it and I was like, he hasn't
won anything yet, Like, you can't say he hasn't even
won ben to a super Bowl, so that hasn't been
new super Bowl, hasn't won a super Bowl. You can't
crown someone a goat for something they haven't done. And

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another thing that I do find a little bit annoying about,
oh yeah this era is sometimes you see like people say, oh, yeah,
I'm the greatest of all time. He but like, but people,
but you know your generation, and you know Michael Jordan's
of the world, the Michael Jackson's of the world. They
don't crown themselves a goat. The other people and their
peers crown them.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
That's my reference to Lebron James putting on the back
of his shoes, like Michael Jordan didn't do that. No
one Wayne Gretzky didn't do that in his skates.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
Oh here's com David, He's the best of all time.
Jesus Christ. Oh he's just broke the record. He's still
ain't better than Wayne Gretzky.

Speaker 5 (01:47:56):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
But in fairness to the conversation, people have done that
for a while. People have been trying to tell us
who the greatest band of all time is to take
the place of the Beatles, And no one's going to
take the place of the Beatles because no one's had
more number one hits, no one's had more Top Billboard,
twenty five on the charts and all that other stuff.
So people are always looking. And I think it's a

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generational thing. And that's not just with Ryan's generation or
kool Aids or yours or mine. It's we want to
be able to say. It's a lot like the Barry
Sanders argument. I want to be able to say I
watched the greatest run back of all time. Our franchise
had the greatest running back of all That's what pissed
people off more than anything. You had a chance to
break Walter Payton, you could ours our guy. My generation

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had the best of dot dot Dot Yeah, that's what
people want to be able to say.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
Only the difference is like Barry is the universe, the truth.
You watch m mom, That's the universe, the true. He's
the best of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Yeah, except for his father who said it was Jim Brown,
which is which seemed a little strange. But people in
Chicago probably felt that way about wal Walter Payton. People
in Dallas feel that way about him at Smith and
maybe they felt that way about Tony Dorset even before them.
I don't know, but they. I think that's what happens,
especially in sports, maybe pop culture and things of that.

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We want to be able to say I saw the
best or I had the best. Maybe that's what they're
pushing right now with Beyonce.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
I was about to say something about the running backs,
and like, I'm glad I didn't say it, like Darre
Henry is sneaky, I forget the things he's done.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
I was about to say, well.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Barry is the only one and when two thousand and
two thousand, But that's not true because Darren Henry had
two thousand Alabama his last year and he's had two
thousand League.

Speaker 5 (01:49:39):
Let me ask you this good question, if.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
He becomes the first to do it twice, does that
do something for him in terms of speeding him up
the ladder of running backs.

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
Because he's on pace. I would think it will last year,
excuse me, last I would think it would.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
But I'll turn that around on you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
It's interesting you say that because no one's ever done to.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
My son just asked me that last week and he said, Dad,
is Derrick Henry a top ten back? And I said no.
But let me ask you a question in all sincerity.
At the collegiate level, when people talk about the greatest
running backs in college history, do they bring up Archie.

Speaker 4 (01:50:14):
Griffin two Heisman trophies, the only one to do it?
They don't ye two Heisman trophies. Yeah, Okay, this is
gonna sound stupid, because he is a penultimate in college
football and sports in general.

Speaker 5 (01:50:27):
It's one of those one. But two thousands.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
It's different because it is the running back space. Like
two thousand means like this is what you get judged
on at your position, and you had.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
Two thousand yards twice. That's a little bit different than
winning an award.

Speaker 12 (01:50:44):
That.

Speaker 5 (01:50:44):
Yeah, you can an award if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
You're voting on it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:51):
I mean it's political.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
It's political from a good standpoint, but it's also political
from a bad standpoint.

Speaker 5 (01:50:58):
Too true.

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
But like you had to go out get those two
thousand back to back in NFL, and nobody's ever done
that like that.

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
If that was something it could be done, someone would
have done it by now.

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
Whether it was barried, whether it's whether it was Eric Diggerson,
they've gotten Troe Davis, but they haven't done it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:14):
The thing about Dereck Henry, though, that bothers me. Though
it's gonna sound like, hey, is.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
He got two thousand in this era? This is a
past driven error, man. It's a pass from area opens
up a little bit for the runs a little bit easier.

Speaker 5 (01:51:28):
It's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:51:29):
Well, you think it's easier, yes, Derrick Henry same size
as the defensive linement.

Speaker 5 (01:51:33):
He's going against.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
But what does that have to do with the era?

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
Man, I'm just having some fun. I'm talking.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
I'm saying, because all you do is past Like right now,
Lamar's actually dropped back is three four wide.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
Get about Deck Henry a little softwer?

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Yeah, I get it. So you're saying for the two
thousand yards that Eric Dickerson game was harder because they
were playing for the run.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
My dad played against Eric Dickerson. Great story. I'm glad
you brought that up. Eric Dickerson first one, not first,
but the record holder, twenty one hundred sixty four, twenty
one hundred ninety four yards, whatever it is. He had
two games left in the season that he broke it.
Two games left to get to two thousand. They played
the Houston Oilers, who my dad played for, and then

(01:52:11):
they played I forget. I always forget that part of
the story because it's irrelevant because he didn't need to
get to them.

Speaker 5 (01:52:16):
His plan, he need one hundred and seventy eight yards.
I'm going to split it up.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
I'm gonna get as much as i can against the
Houston Oilers, and then I'll get the rest against the
last team, and that'll be two thousand. Somebody on my dad,
my dad said, somebody on the team was doing some
some dirty stuff in the pile, some extra pokes, some
extra grabs, semestra elbows.

Speaker 5 (01:52:34):
Say.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
Eric Dickson got up through the ball and said, I'm
getting it all today.

Speaker 5 (01:52:40):
Check the record.

Speaker 4 (01:52:41):
He went out there and got one hundred and ninety
yards and broke the record that day. The last game
he just added on to he was.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
A dog played San Francisco. Last game he didn't need
and need it, didn't need against You know what did
he get?

Speaker 5 (01:52:53):
It is one hundred and ninety one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Yeah, I look it up against against the Oilers.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
Yeah, we'll look at up team while we look it up.
Kool Ai.

Speaker 4 (01:53:02):
We promised the individuals, we promised everybody that we would
get to more mail bad questions today.

Speaker 5 (01:53:06):
We don't want to be liars. Kool Aid, get the
mail bad rock in the row.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Eric Dickerson rush for two hundred and fifteen yards that day.
Sorry about that fire out.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
Of the Houston Oilers and love you Blue. Sorry dad,
it was This is my dad's favorite story.

Speaker 5 (01:53:21):
He tells.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
By the way, Mike Renfreld was in bounds in Pittsburgh.
Should have beaten the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Sorry, thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:53:28):
I saved some of them from yesterday too, because the
good people sent them some good questions.

Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
Michael Werry from yesterday it says mail bad.

Speaker 14 (01:53:35):
How long will it take for Brad to make a
move now that Davenport is possibly out.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
For the season. He's got some information for us off
for the season. Michael Werry, I don't think it was
what everyone's speculating. I don't think he will. I don't
even think from what I saw yesterday. The folks you
know this, Every Tuesday they bring in people, okay, because
it's a mandatory day off for the NFL. There were

(01:54:01):
on that list, right and there.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
This is the thing. No, the answer is no. You
don't have to ask again. The reason why is because
pay attention. They have told us at every turn, especially
in the last three weeks, we're good, We're good, We're good.
We've heard that three or four times, so I think
they're they're letting you know that they believe they're good. However,
they plan on attacking the writing position, whether he plays
or does not.

Speaker 5 (01:54:23):
They feel as though they're good. Now, do I agree? No,
But I'm not the GM, I'm not the coach, and
it's not for me to decide.

Speaker 6 (01:54:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:54:30):
And here's an interesting one too, man.

Speaker 14 (01:54:32):
I'm seeing some people here talking about the fact that
National Unists are saying that the Lions should trade for
kvon Thibodeau. And they want you guys, They want you guys.
Thoughts on the shout out to Charles McClain, who put
that in the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Thanks chro What would you trade? It's easy to say.
I've always felt what do you give when you give up?

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
So I was on record as saying I want a
cave on Tablo over eight hutches, and that's sam I
said that in two one.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
It is what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:55:02):
I said that, then I stick by it. I'm standing
with what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
You don't agree with that now, No, I don't sick
by because you're telling people.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
Make sure you know that that's where I signed on
obviously eight and has had a much better career thus far,
even with the injury last season. I don't know, I
mean first first round, third round and some players just
what years are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:55:26):
I would give a fiw Your first round is not
gonna It's one of those things.

Speaker 4 (01:55:31):
Now that you're a good team, you're looking at pick
twenty seven to thirty two, give or take. You know,
do you package in a three this year and maybe
a four of the following year, do something creative and
some delayed drafts or something of that nature, because what
happens if you get a kveon Tiberdau And I don't
know if if the Giants want to do it. If
there's any truth to it, let's just act like it is.

(01:55:51):
Look at what the infusion of Michael Parsons did for
the Green Bay package. Is Kavon Thibodaux Michael Parsons, No,
he's not, but it's Caveon Thibodeau of a really good
defensive end that has Pro Bowl potential, maybe even slightly
in consistent space operating on the other side of aiden.
Like remember we talked about the scouting report, Like guys

(01:56:13):
having to say this is what we're gonna have to do.
Keveon Thibleeau makes you turn on the tape and say, Okay,
this is how we kind of want to attack him,
and approaching it gives you a player that.

Speaker 10 (01:56:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
I think what you have to do is you have
to look at history of the NFL to a certain extent.
So we were talking about this about Michael Parsons. What
did Dallas get for MICHAEH. Parsons, right, they got to
firsts yep, and they got a player now and a
good player, ye, Kenny Clark. Keveon Thibodau is not Michael

(01:56:47):
Parsons exactly. People were talking about prior to that Khalil
Mack went from the Raiders to the Bears. Yeah, I
think it was twenty sixteen, Yes, and Chicago had to
surrender to first a third and a fifth and the
Raiders got also had to chip in a second and

(01:57:08):
a fifth for Kali Mack.

Speaker 5 (01:57:10):
And that's the good thing about it, though.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
The two players that you name at that particular time,
where Khalil mccas he was a normal player in his position,
maybe number two, like he was coming off to two
All pros and then four pro bows like, it's a
different type of player. Michael Parsons he's done. Only one
other person is known when he's done, So that market,
that pool is a lot bigger.

Speaker 5 (01:57:28):
Calon Thibodeau he hasn't done that. So let's start bargaining
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
So with all that said, I think you'd have to
give up a high round draft pick, maybe not even
necessarily a first, but at least a second. You'd have
to give up multiple picks. Would I do it for him, Absolutely,
I would do it. No, they're not my picks. Brad
Holmes is really.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Good with it's not our money either, and everybody else
always arguing about the money. Oh my God, don't spend
the money. It's not yours, just like it's not our picks.

Speaker 14 (01:57:55):
Especially to protect that Super Bowl window or garage, what's that?
Especially to protect that do that word.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
I would just say this.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
The reason why I would do it is one, you
can give up picks that you don't you need them,
but this is something better. And also you never have
to address this again. Now you get Klon Thibodeau as
the right end, you don't have to address the end again.
And he's not making the money that Trey Hendrickson is making,
because I know that's what everybody deep downside is thinking.

Speaker 5 (01:58:20):
Well, the Bengals, it's over there anyway, we'll get him
next year.

Speaker 13 (01:58:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
The only thing I would say to that though, he
is in your force because he came out in the
same money draft. So you the fifth year you've got
to you know, extend them or pick that up if
you will, and then he hits free agency. He's a
guy who I think last year had five and a
half sacks the year before eleven and a half, which
is really good. If he's playing to your club. To

(01:58:43):
your point, if he's playing opposite Aiden Hutchinson, he's got
Allen McNeil and Tyler Williams. Inside he's gonna get more
one on one battles, So I wouldn't have any problem.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
I would.

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
I would not give up multiple firsts.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
No, I would.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
I would give up a second. I would give up
perhaps a second and the third.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
I don't maybe even to balance there, yeah, maybe even
two and two. You give up a second and the
third and the second and third. But like two years
now two years also too. You don't have to pay
him next year. You can franchise him. You bring him in,
you bring let's say that the deals this year. You
bring him in this year, you next next year.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Yeah, I got you year.

Speaker 4 (01:59:19):
You fring the rest of this year, franchise him next year,
and then by then you will have gotten out of him.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
What you've needed. Either one you've won a super Bowl
and he's.

Speaker 4 (01:59:26):
Helped that, or two excuse or two you see he's
serviceable enough to yeah, this is a good luck on
the other eight and for a lot of years to come,
or three guess what it didn't work, see you later.

Speaker 14 (01:59:38):
And he's one of those players that you talked about earlier.
He's one of the ones that the opposing teams is Yes,
the other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
It helps, it protects you. I'm not saying Aiden Hutchinson,
I'm worried about him getting hurt. You know football, that
happens all the time. But if last year at least
you had you know, Zaderias Smith right, if something were
to happened to him, even if you missed a game
or two, then what are you doing. You're not doing
a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
Look at the end of the day, and I'm gonna
get that. It's perfect timing with Philadelphia. Look at what
Philly did. They always end up coming up correct in
the last three years, the two Super Bowls they went
to one, they lost one day one.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
But what did they do?

Speaker 5 (02:00:16):
Look at what the defensive line looked like in those
three years? What did they do?

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
They kept stacking, kept adding players. We got a sign
Radick doesn't matter, give me this player, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 15 (02:00:26):
Give me.

Speaker 4 (02:00:26):
They went and got freaking up, uh and Dominican sue.
They kept adding to the defensive line until their way.
Absolutely positively no holes except for in that secondary, and
they just kept going.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
Great example. The difference there is he's a one year guy.
He is the end of his rope. This would be
a guy you'd bring in and you would hope would
be part of your future as well being forward. Getting
a depth guy like con Dominicans Sue might be differently getting.

Speaker 4 (02:00:53):
But iut that guy, like absolutely correct. They had nine
guys in the defensive line. I just added the last
one of Dominican ues throwing in there like and even
they still were like, shoot, we'll get this guy even
played last year.

Speaker 14 (02:01:05):
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Speaker 5 (02:01:18):
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Speaker 14 (02:01:38):
And Whitney and and Dontrell five dollars super chat. He
has the number one spot for top fans today. In
the chat, he says, with Derek Henry put up a
two thousand yard season. If Prian Bray Lewis defense or
the Steve Curtain was around.

Speaker 4 (02:01:52):
That's she That's the conversation I was trying to have.
Thank you for that because back when they were getting
two thousand yards in the nineties, the eighties, seventies, even
the beginning of two thousand, they were focused on the run.

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
Yeah, they were only trying to shut the rundown.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
Could have done it against Tony Casias and Dallas Cowboys.
But it's a good point. I think it's a really
good point. And the answer to that is probably know
although he's bigger than every player on that Steeve Curtain
defense back in the day, outside of maybe maybe Ernie Holmes.
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