Detroit Lions 53-Man Roster Talk | The Braylon Edwards Show w/ Shep | Monday, August 25th, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
Are not absolutely missed. You absolutely miss kool Aid, absolutely
missed Ricky and of course we missed the man whose
name is on the show, Old Breilan Edward. I hope
everybody had a great weekend, man, I really do. Kol
Aid's mom is doing well. That's the most important thing
I got out of this week. And I know you
folks want to talk about Hindon Hooker. Itn't blame you

(01:11):
for us. The mind was on kool Aid's mom. Shout
out to her, miss kool Aid, missus kool Aid. However
you want to say it, just glad that the Lord
has blessed us that she's still with us, So I
hope she's okay. Ricky, how was I was the concert?
My friend? How did you do?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
You're spinning right.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, yeah, spinning the old school jams man.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
It was for Kiss one O five nine aster station
at one O five one of bounces. I was out
there playing all the music that was made before I
was born.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
It was great, baby, all right, people and people were
grooving today.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
If it's one thing in h Bradley, I know you
were there. If it's one thing about that concert that
made me realize that I don't dress good enough. Some
of these suits and some of these outfits, some of
these ogs where are amazing?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh my god, shout to there is something to be
said about the look. I know Braylan played some golf,
there's no question about that. I also know he went
to a concert, took his family out to dinner on
Friday night when he got out of here. Overall, a
plus weekend for you.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
It was a plus weekend. But I'm so excited. You
know what Saturday is. Football season is here, and let's go.
Let's freaking go. Let's set the records for the wold reason.
I'm so excited. But but I digress. Let's go shop, Let's.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Let's go shop.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Come on, let's get going.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, I'm not so excited, so exciting I really am.
I mean yeah, now, I will say, I don't want
to be a wet blanket here the Friday night game
from Michigan State, Okay, I prefer Saturday afternoon. This is
just me. I'm not always right, believe me, Ask my kids,
ask my wife. Saturday night from Michigan, New Mexican. Just

(02:51):
not feeling that either. But I'm not gonna get too
pissy with it because all I care about is that
our schools are back playing football again and that's really
really fun.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Understand we're gonna get into that, so I'll digress a
little bit. I'm sorry I came with the energy, but man,
this time of year gets me going even more than
the start of the NFL season because your college, for me,
was where it began. But the concert Maxwell puts on
a hell of a show. Man, let's get into that
and talk about four second Marsha Ambrosius, she came up
with some Butterflies. She wrote it for Michael, Michael used it,

(03:21):
and then she eventually put it back out. She was
the opener and then Maxwell was the closer. Shep, I'm
always partial and always love when artists appreciate the fans because,
unlike football and other entertainment maybe acting and certain things,
fans are uber essential to the success of a musical artist.

(03:42):
Like Maxwell came up on this stage and talked about
thirty years ago.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
You know, this city took a chance on me.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
You know, I'm not necessarily a big pop artist, or
I'm not a at least.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
Not at the time.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
I'm not one of these guys that was doing commercial
things that you know, the radio.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
Stations put me on.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
I'm an Indian artist and I'm playing neo soul, you know,
sexy songs and love songs, and you know, the fans
were called the radio station.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
Like he spent the first good music, one great music,
great music.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
He spent the first twelve minutes like giving it to
Detroit and talk about his his times and coming here.
He said, it's like his twenty ninth time coming to
the city. Detroit concert was flawless. Deretha has put five
million dollars. Mary Duggan was down there, you know, shout
out to him as well. And the work that he.

Speaker 7 (04:25):
Did around the Aretha it looked great, you know, you still.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Have it sounds like a great night man.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
You got the backdrop.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
It was about seventy seven degrees maybe eighty, but it
was a nice breeze, you know.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
And once you see through.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
The back behind the band and behind the instruments, and
you see the boats pull up and you see the
night go that midsummer night black pretty It's it reminded me.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Of how special my city is and how special Shane
Park was.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I love how you said that. Yeah, it was so
well described. So why doesn't the city do more of this?
And I know there's there's concerts down there right that
is that is a beautiful walk. What he just described
is what this city really is not only all about now,
but can become even better at if that's a that's
probably improperly phrased sentence, but it can be better in

(05:11):
that regard. Why don't we showcase that more? Why isn't
that done more for all of us?

Speaker 7 (05:17):
I think they are.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
I mean because they're doing a lot of Yeah, because
Shame Parker. I mean it's always doing concerts. They're always
doing good like that's like it's not a summer if
I don't go to con.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
I mean, of course Ricky knows he got the invite.
He was doing it all off rooftops, off the river walks.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Listen, he's the one sending out the nice himself. Okay,
we just don't get them, all right.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
There's a lot going on in Shame park too. What
Ricky said, there's a lot of people come in.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
There's a lot of concerts.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
I've been to three concerts that the Aretha in the
last Yeah, I'm saying three weeks is so, so they
have it. I just think that there's other venues that
do it as well. So Shane park slash Aretha is
fighting with Pine Knob slash DT is fighting with the
Motors City or the Michigan Lottery, which is uh Michigan
Lottery A.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Those are all Live Nation. I think Areta's the only
one that's not Live Nation exact. Literally fighting against the conglomerate.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
So the conglomerate they got the bread pinab in Michigan Lotto.
They got the money. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
And that's why Mayor Dougan. I think that's why I
was so big to hear that Mary Sheffield soon to
be married Detroit. She was there on his behalf. But
that's why it's so important to talk. You said to
shout out to Mary shell Cield.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I got to meet her in person.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
She's a great person. That was cool.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Ally challenge was cool. I got some picks and some viz.
It was uh, it was dope.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
Last year.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
How they did the event was you played four now
three years ago Jalen Rose went viral there. That's when
Jalen hit about three four shots and they just were
all bad. But fast forward didn't play four holes, played
one one golf shot, which is a part three hundred
and sixty yard shot. You had a thirty second challenge.
How many football football could you throw into the ally circle?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Then, of course you know through then you had a
basketball how many baskets did you make it?

Speaker 7 (06:59):
Thirty second?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
And then he had a soccer shot getting it as
close to the pen if you will. So golf shot.
Nobody made it on the green. I was the closest
I was probably like eight feet off. Pissed me off,
but it was a part three. It was a part three.
How far one sixty one? What did you use my
nin easy nine? Like easy nine, and I legitimately was

(07:21):
about eight feet off to the left. Here we go,
basketball stud kendle. She won the basketball contest. And let
me preface it by saying, Trey McKinny did the basketball
challenge for his team.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
I repeat, Trey McKenny, Michigan.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Basketball player of the year, five star McDonald's All American
going to university in Michigan.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
One question was she from Flint, I'll see the Flint powers. Yeah,
he explains it.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
Well every well he's from Flint to.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Trades from Flint too. So she made six. Next place
was five. So we won that. I won the football challenge? No, no,
well I would hope it, and that's why he made
it a big deal. We finished second, which is we
didn't win the soccer challenge, but we ended up winning
with seven thousand dollars, So we raised seven thousand dollars
for Powers CAF.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
What about what about the so you throw the football?
I did through the through the big circle, right, I
got the video.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
We'll play the video next segment.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I'd like to see that.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
I'll send it to you. It was interesting how they
did it. It wasn't like throwing it through the net
standing up. It was more so a bullseye sitting down
on an angle and then there was a.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
Hole in the middle of the bulls eye, so it's
kind of like throwing down. It's a weird motion. But
the golf shots on here, I did have the golf
shot for you.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
What were you more proud of the football throw? The
golf shot or the fact that your team won the basketball.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
Life, it's all about w's around here.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I care.

Speaker 7 (08:56):
Let's about all others. If you if you win an individual.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And you lose the over, did you well, that's a
good point.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
So like, we won and that was cool. We had
a good time. The energy was great. It's a lot
of fun and it was a great weekend. And oh,
by the way, I told you he was gonna come through.
I told him he was gonna get that.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Really happy for him.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
I am too.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
And it's not just because it was this one hundred
and sixty fourth PGA event to get it done, but
because I I love I think oftentimes you can find
out more about a person during the adverse times than
their best times. How many times have you told us
you learned an awful lot from failure? Okay, your dad.
I remember having a deep conversation with when I worked

(09:39):
with your dad a long time ago in television. He
said the same thing, learn more from failure than you
do from success. Tommy Fleetwood have had plenty of failures,
like we all have. A lot of people said he
choked a word that I don't like. A lot of
people said he couldn't capture the big moment. My response was,
he won a silver medal, been on Ryder Cup championship teams,

(10:02):
He's been on President Cup Championship teams, He's won six
on the DP Tour. Don't tell me that he caves
under this stuff, but it's how he handled those moments.
And on top of that, his interaction with the fans.
He hits a crappy shot, he bodies, he's still slapping
from He's not throwing clubs, he's not pulling a rickey
where he says, leave me alone today, I can't I

(10:22):
got to I'm a club. What does he do? He
stays right after it and handles the grind.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
That's what we were talking about last week.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Man, I'm a big fan, made a big fan over
the years and watching him deal with these situations and
deal with these spaces with class. He's class for signing
five h real quick before I talk about his win.
But at the end of the day, when you want
to get to that next tier, though ship, when you
want to becoming a different mention, when you want to
get mentioned around different people, you got to start winning.
And I think that's what Tom Fleewood had to do.

(10:51):
That's what he did. Now you can start to mention
his name. I think a little differently. But shoot, I think.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I don't just by the way, I don't tell I don't.
Just right, there are separate tiers, without question. You finish.
You're in the top five thirty times in your career
without winning, which is the most in the last one
hundred years of the PGA.

Speaker 7 (11:14):
You're not at chow guy. You just can't finish.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, it's tough to finish it and close the door,
and you got people coming up from behind you. I
get all that. I just think it's very noble how
he handled it and what he said afterwards really stuck
with me, and it did make me think a little
bit about your father. To be honest with you, my
dad always told me be nice to people, treat them
the way you want to be treated. And he said

(11:36):
his dad told him to be a good person, then
a good golfer. Yeah, and I know that sounds cheesy.
I get all that, but I think it's an awesome
life lesson.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
It's awesome. And the last thing.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
The last thing is I am a huge fan of
when people let their emotion go.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
I'm a huge fan when people are authentic in that moment.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
We know how Tommy has felt in this last month,
last two months, this last year, this last golf season,
go back ten years.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
You can feel it.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
You can feel him pressing, you can feel him anxious,
you can feel it the disappointment when he doesn't win,
when he won.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
It's the same thing as Tiger.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
When Tiger won the Masters in nineteen, I said, please,
don't go up here and do something.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Just chill.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Please don't go out here and win, Tiger and just say,
you know, throw the fist up or tip the cat
to the crowd. Tiger, it took you forever to get
back to this moment. Injury, divorce, the media. Now you're
raising kids, like all the things that you've gone through,
like let out some joy, let us know you. When

(12:38):
Tommy fleet Would, I said, that's what I want, that's
what I want, That's what I wanted.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
I think that made the moment complete.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Makes you like him even that much, And kudos to
the entire Atlanta based fan base for rooting him on Hell,
you could easily. You know what, we're American. We're gonna
root for Patrick Cantling. No, thank you, We're gonna root
for Tommy fleet Would because we can relate and I
love that about it.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
It's human atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Man, it's pretty awesome. I do want to get to
where there's going to be a lot of football discussion
today without question, because I want this is the week,
as Braylan started the show, this is the week where
at least the two big teams in the area. I
love Mid American Conference teams too, but more people are
focused on what Michigan and Michigan State are about to do.

(13:26):
I think it's awesome that we've got that feeling. There
is a different feel for college football. It's not that
I don't like the NFL with all due respect, I'm
sure there's a ton of people fired up for your
first game. They're in Cleveland, but we've got two weeks
to settle in now waiting for the Lions to make
their first game, which I can't stand. I think it's
absolute bull craps. Give it to me this weekend. But

(13:46):
whatever this weekend with college football and the feel of
walking on a campus, I don't care what campus it is.
And there's a different smell. No, not porta pottis, No,
not the Beier bongs. I'm talking about different fuel, different
smell when it comes to college football. I can't wait
for that to take place this week.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
I can't find I can't wait either. College is always
fun when you get around this week. Man training camp
ends a week before schools start, and so you kind
of people are coming back. You see freshmen moving in.
It takes you back to when you were freshman. You
remember those days and leaving mom and dad, and you
know the optimism for what could be a four year,
five year, have a long you're going to be there

(14:28):
three years.

Speaker 7 (14:28):
In some cases.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
You can feel that, man, You hear the excitement, you know,
you just hear the energy of another college season. And
then the best part about it is football starts that
college season, not football season, but it starts with school year.
If you will, Michigan to play their first game before
these kids are in school, and all week it's just
the excitement. You see the parties. They had Bryce Underwood

(14:51):
at some parties, a lot different than when we were
in school. I wasn't trying to get on camera at
the parties before school. If I was at the party,
I was right.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
We heard Braylor Edwards was here. Hey, look seven thousand kids.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
There are reports that Braylor Edwards was that a Sigma
Kappa party and probably should not have been there.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
They had all the best part of but the energy
is there. Man.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
You smell the wings, you know, like wings are huge
in an our. Man, you smell the wings, and it's everything.

Speaker 7 (15:26):
The noise.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
You can hear the band practicing, that's a part of it,
and you hear the noises just kind of transley through
the neighborhood over the State street and you get the
hoover and.

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Then you get the track.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
And they obviously announced that their mon Field is now
a big tail getting area again this year, so now
you have money coming back. It's a fun time. Now
the weather starts to change. I don't know about y'all,
but it's a little chili last couple of mornings, man,
that lets me know. There comes Pauls. Here comes the
smell of hot dogs, Here comes the smell of popcorn.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
Here comes the.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Smell of whatever you do with your gate to make
a the best experience in ann Arb or whatever your
school is, East Lansing. You know, I know these kids
are exciting.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh man, my sister, Yeah, my daughter is so fired up.
You know, she's got the season tickets.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
Because they can't be any better than they've been. They
can't be any worse than they've been. Optimism alone is exciting.
I want them to be a better team.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
One.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, they beat Michigan. I don't care that they beat us.
That's what that rivalry is about. I want to get
back to that.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I think they're going to be better, I really do.
I'm really excited for both teams. I'm really excited for
both fan bases. But you, I don't know how often
you were able to You weren't able to experience this
while you're going to college. But walking on a campus
and then walking through those tailgate areas whether it be
Pioneer High School or the Victor's parking lot, or at

(16:46):
Michigan State where they are all over the place. Yeah right,
you know they really are the state is unbelievable. But
to be able to bounce from one place to the
next and sees so many people who feel like they're
in line with you and saying, hey, you want a
hot dog, you want a sandwich, come out over here,
let's just talk football for a little bit. Suddenly you've
got a ton of new friends. And if you're in

(17:09):
the same spot all the time, you become more than
just neighbors and more than just spartan er Wolverine fans.
You become really good friends. And I think that's one
of the beauties of sport, and especially the beauty of
college football. It's hard to sometimes explain, but when you
have that feeling and that camaraderie, you miss it and

(17:32):
now it's back, and I'm really fired up for people
who are able to experience.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Okay, here we go around the room real quick. Everybody's
been to tailgates. Everybody's been to tailgates. Everybody's been to tailgates.
What are your favorite tailgate food and drink? If you
don't drink, fine, we know it's water. What are your
favorite drink and what are your favorite food?

Speaker 7 (17:49):
I'll go first.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
It is something about chili during football season. It is
something about chili. Once October one hits, it is something
about chili and then and it is something about mixing.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
I'm I'm for you too, I'm growing up. I'm double
the legal age.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
It's something about missing the right whiskey or the right
bourbon with a splash of that hot apple cider.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Every time I eat something at a tailgate, I think
of a couple of things. One is, at some point
while I'm watching the football game, is nature going to call? Okay,
so it's really important sweet life, sweetly, Yeah, it's really
it's sweet life.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Worry about that.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
You're You're sweet life. So it's really important I eat
something that agrees with me for an extended peer. So
I'll have the cup of chili. But if I go
back for seconds, it could be a problem. Okay. So
anytime there's brisket, I've got a friend who does a
really good brisket. Okay, if I get brisket, I'm a
pretty happy camper. I am a known beer guy, so

(18:52):
as long as I've got my favorite beers and I've
got a brisket or some chili, I am a pig
and slot, I'm happy happy. I agree with you on
a beer.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I'm i p a Specifically, when it's fall time, I
need something nice and heavy, something dark.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I like that. So you're not gonna drink a lot then, no,
Otherwise you're gonna be waiting in line for the trough
for one time.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, trumble Joe Louis Arena at day. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Besides chili, nachos, man, nachos the one food that, like,
you have to take away from me.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Like, I'll eat nachos all day, every day, but not
just with cheese on them. You got you gotta something?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, fully loaded, You're right fully loaded.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Pour the chili on top of the nachos.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
You know what I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
That's what led me from chili to the nacho. Oh yeah,
let me pick something different. Yeah, well nachos, well done? Cool?

Speaker 6 (19:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
Hey, listen, you know what drink of choice. It's gotta
be kool aid, right, some type of kool aid. Man
and chat me tell me what your favorite kol aid is.
In the chat, which one should I drink? For the
first Lions game. But game day food, I'm a sucker
for chicken tenders and honey mustard as well as I
gotta have my bugsies.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
And a tailgate chicken.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
I'm a chicken tenders guy. I gotta have the chicken.
But you're right, I gotta have them.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
You.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
You you are the kids that starts eating chicken tenders
when at one, two, three years old and you've been
ordering chicken teners ever since.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Actually, yes, I knew it.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Literally jail and chicken teners, chilies, chicken Fridays, chicken tenders,
name a restaurant.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
I will tell you this. My my favorite tailgate food though.

Speaker 8 (20:32):
When we were hosting at the down at Eastern Market
for a bulls Eye event, it was again steak bites.

Speaker 9 (20:39):
Man.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
I forget the people who were doing it, but they
had steak bites. They had a tower of different alcoholic beverages,
and they just had a spread of food. Mac and cheese.
It's the ultimate side for me at tailgates. Mac and cheese.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
I don't know how you get How can you argue
with a good mac and cheese? Seriously, I mean, if
you if you're gonna start telling me it's not good.
I'm gonna punch you in the liver. It is so good,
I mean good mac and cheese. It goes well with
so different.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
I'm gonna tell you like this and this, this is
definitely black thing. It's definitely black thing.

Speaker 7 (21:09):
I don't need. Nobody's mac and cheese is not my
mom and my sisters.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
It's it takes particular.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
It takes a.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Lot to give me to eat your mac and cheese. Well,
you guys have have a mom's cooking. Yeah, and my
sister and it comes from and it comes from my grandmother.
So like that's how I grew up. My sister is
equally not better. You know what I'm saying, Well, she's
not careful, be careful, careful. She's cooking a lot more

(21:41):
these days, you know what I'm saying. So I'm not
eating a lot of people's mac and cheese because it
doesn't look.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I get it. But they're not saying it's the same level. Yeah,
But that's that's like me saying I'm not gonna have
spaghetti and meat sauce because the best I ever had
was in Rome in Italy, So I'm not gonna eat
it anymore. But you don't have ridiculous but it's silly
to think that.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
But you don't have access to Roman Italy every week.
I have access to my mom sister.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
But if you're at a tailgate, yeah, and I love
having debates about this because I'll take your mom right
now and I'll literally take my shirt off and dive
into it. It's so good. But I'm just saying, yeah,
thank you.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
All I'm saying is if you're wanting the mac and cheese,
I mean, all it does is make you appreciate your
mom and your sisters even more. But it still can
be pretty good.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
Fair.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
I do eat other mac and cheese, if from places restaurants,
so I'll nibble in some spaghetti. But I will tell
you this, my parents, as well as my sister have
raised the bar too freaking high. So when I'm nibbling,
I'm instantly I'm already ready to not like it, Like
I'm already ready to say this is okay and not
eat my plate.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
You know, when we went to your house, kool aid
didn't have any, so what I would strongly suggest he didn't,
So what I would if your mom could make a
trough full of it and just bring it in in
that way, kool Aid can taste it and we can
all judge. You know not we haven't. No, Ricky and
I had some, but I feel bad for kool Aid
because he hasn't. So if you could bring a big
bowl of it tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
You can talk directly to it like those chickens, like
your services are being required.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
So, yeah, I didn't have any chicken wings. So if
I didn't have a chick I didn't have any chicken wings,
so that would be a bad thing to happen.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I don't think I had any.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Of the spaghetti.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's kind of spicy but kind of sweet.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, that's right. We missed out on that.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
So how about this.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
How about I set up Mom to cook something and
bring to you guys Thursday Wednesday, and I can bring
it in Thursday.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
How about a different day that ends in why like Tuesday.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'll take I'll take anything.
I take any food from your mom or your sister
on any day.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
So I don't like night games when they're unnecessary, And
when you're talking about Michigan and Mexico, that's unnecessary. Last
year PRESENTO State Michigan that's unnecessary.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Yeah right, I think it's different. Why because it's not
it's Friday.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I know, but you we have played high school football TV.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
I can't watch I know.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
But Friday usually for me, I feel high school Friday nights.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
That's just me. It doesn't mean I'm right. I feel
high school Friday nights. I like college football. I know, Crumudgeon,
thanks Clint Eastwood. I like college football on Saturday and
Saturday afternoon. I like the build up the house of
your fan base waking up. There's all kinds of toga

(24:39):
parties from the night before, and these kids are back
in their front yard playing flip cup, playing ping pong
whatever while people are walking by. And then you're having
a packed parking lot full of it, you know, with
people who are there to support you. Go, you enjoy
the game, and then you got the night to enjoy.
I know TV drives everything, but that's my feel. Friday

(25:00):
night to me is high school and Saturday night. I
think it takes away from the experience Friday night.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
I mean, obviously Texas at Ohio State play this, they
play this Saturday or the night game. That's got to
excuse me. That's a twelve o'clock game. That's big new
kickoff shots. We will have Brady Quinn on this week,
so shout out to him. He's on Big noon Kickoff.
Can't wait to get his thoughts on this upcoming football season.
But who wants to watch outside of you? Who wants

(25:25):
to watch Ohio State in Texas play at twelve o'clock?
Like by twelve o'clock, I'm trying to figure out my day.
Am I getting up? Have I gone to the gym?
I got a doll in at twelve o'clock. I gotta
be ready to sit in front of my couch at
twelve o'clock and watch the number one seed in the
country play the number three seed in the country. These
are two the winnings programs. Ever, like this is you
gotta build that story up, and I'm not talking about

(25:47):
today through Friday eleven fifty nine and some change. Build
that story up overnight, like at least make it a
three point thirty four o'clock game.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, I could buy that. I don't need kick Off
for that. The build up has taken place ever since
the schedule came out, and if you know the schedule
has been come out and it's come out for a
long time. You can plan your day that way. You're
an early rise, so you get a workout. So I
don't think you're going to be on the treadmill at
twelve thirty watching the game while somebody else is listening
to rock and roll on their headphones. I'm just saying

(26:19):
that's a possibility where you could just plan your day
and then you're ready to go, and you've got friends over,
and then you still have your night to to enjoy.
Whatever it is. It's just a little thing that I
have a problem with, but I'm not going to complain
too much about it because I think it's awesome that
college football's back fair.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
I think this is where I rely on it.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
If you're going to be playing in Mexico State, make
it at twelve o'clock one o'clock game, right if you
any Now, if you want to play the four o'clock
three thirty primetime game, I'm fine with that. That's fine.
Four o'clock is good. Three forty five is still a
good time, I understand. And it gets late now, you
like I've been watching football all day. I'm exhausted. I
want you something else on the Saturday.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Has it gotten away from college football fans a little
bit because there are so many games on Number one
and number two. It is strung out so frequently throughout
the week. I know there's no maction during the week
just yet, but we are getting inundated with a lot
more football games, which I enjoy. Don't get me wrong,

(27:18):
but it just seems like there's so many more now
on national TV that people can get their fix from.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
Everybody has access.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
I think, you know, inclusion was a big thing, trying
to get everybody involved in getting a chance to play
on TV, play on the streaming service, be able to
see those games. That's what they wanted to get to
or I got frustrated with is not knowing where games were, Like,
I'll never.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
Forget this was two was it two years ago? Two
years ago?

Speaker 5 (27:41):
My boy hit me up to say, hey man, let's
go watch the Michigan game at a gentleman's establishment. Okay,
this is a gentleman's establishment Saturday, and we're not thinking
anything up.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
It's Saturday. Cool, we'll do that.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
They'll have the game on, we can enjoy ourselves, watch
a little game. Get out of here, get back to
the family games.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
On Peacock. Yeah, had the game.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
They didn't access to Peacock. They weren't buying Peacock. You
have to have it on each particular TV that you have.
They're not going to do it, so there was no Peacock.
Couldn't watch the Michigan game. I had to watch it
on my phone, which means I couldn't watch the real
action that was going on at this establishment. So that part,
I think is annoying to fans.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
What is it? Is it going to be on CBS?
Is at ABC?

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Is it ESPN? Is it Peacock? Is it Paramount? Is
it Netflix?

Speaker 7 (28:24):
Is it all these?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Is it local?

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Is it local?

Speaker 5 (28:28):
I think that's what frustrates the viewership. And then how
much money do you have to spend to watch all this?
It's so much action, It is so much it's oversaturated
in that sense.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Every game is on essentially.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Because there's a lot of people in the parking lot
who are tailgating, and sometimes they don't have tickets. Not
everybody in their party has tickets. Some people just sit
outside and watch it.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
News flash, most people that go to college campuses don't
have tickets.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Right, that's exactly right. Quick time out when we come
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Michigan State and the fact that Bryce Underwood is the
starting quarterback for the University of Michigan, but also on
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Speaker 2 (34:36):
Hey, I know it's different today than it was when
you played, even though you're not, you know, an.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Old, wily veterans me.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
I can't play right now.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I know you. I know you could play. Listen. There's
no question that you would break ankles. Yeah you Achilles,
mine and no, all hours, all the three of us
could try and cover it. It wouldn't happen.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
But it is.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
It is different to than it was back when you played.
Not often did you find freshman starting in.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
Big programs, especially not in Michigan.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Right Bryce Underwood by all reports, and rightfully so, because
he's just better. You don't start him because he's a
five star. You don't start him because how much money
he makes. Players know that, they see what's happening, and
they know you're supposed to start the best. He's been
the best player in Michigan's football quarterback camp. How much

(35:30):
pressure is he going to feel and what's he going
to have to get used to quicker than just about
anything else when he takes his first snap.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Well, I'm very appreciative of how Sherone Moore tell us
to go about the situation. We all know University of Michigan,
it's always a quarterback controversy. We never have we never
have a name until the day of the game, the
day before the game, or the week.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Of is just typically how it goes. In n Armor
saying was with J. J.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
McCarthy, you don't remember him versus kay him versus Christian
McCaffrey's little brother, like this has been going on for
a very long time. Searon handled it differently. You already
had yourself a five star up there in Jayden Davis.
You had yourself a couple of transfer quarterbacks, and then
you had yourself a ten point five million dollars quarterback.
You didn't hear pepe You didn't hear a peep. They

(36:16):
let them figure it out. You let him not just
be the number one player in ESPN coming into the
twenty five season from high school.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
You just let him be a good quarterback. You let
him see what he was as an athlete. I think
that's what they did.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Remember I told you I went up there a couple
of weeks ago, and everybody was smiling, and everybody was
walking very confidently had an inkling on what it was,
and it was this he's in a good spot. He's
not coming into the offensive line that Davis Mills, excuse me,
came into last year. He's not coming to the five
freshman trying to figure it out. He's not coming to

(36:50):
a running back room just trying to figure it out.
He's not coming to a wide receiver room where Ron
Moore got hurt last year going into the season. Oh
by the way, Rob Moore's back, So he's not coming
into that room. He's coming to a room he got
some more better experience on the offensive line.

Speaker 7 (37:05):
You have a coach in Charon More and it's now
in year two.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
There was some moments Cheroon Moore had to go to
in terms of being a rookie head coach at this level.
Remember the first eight games of the season, and Howard
looked remember some of the moments in terms of Washington
and things of that nature.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
But he did. But he did have some experience in
coaching the year before championship.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
It's different.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
Helped him a little bit, It helped him, but it's
different when everything's on your shoulders, it's much different. I've
done the show before. This one has my name on it.
It comes with different it comes with different weight, and
I think he was able to kind of get through
that season and see what it felt like. Now this season,
I think there's more weapons on the offensive side of
the ball for Bryce Underwood. I think the running back position,

(37:47):
especially Justice Hill as well as Marshall. He usually gonna
be some big, big moves for him, be able to
hand the ball off and get a sense of comfortable offense.
I think he and coach Lindsey have gotten a rapport.
I don't think they're trying to put everything on him.
I think on the outside it's everyone. It's the fans,
it's the haters, it's you know, the analysts, it's us, Well,

(38:08):
this has to happen.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
If this has to happen, or this is what's going on.
If he doesn't do that, that's not what it is.
Up there.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
I think up there they have him in a munch,
much better rhythm. I think they got him. Hey, look
we got this for you, we got that for you,
got this offensive coordinator for you, so let's work it.
I think he has a favorable schedule. In fact, I
know it's a favorable schedule and he'll be good this year.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
They've also said you don't have to be Superman, you don't.
I think it's a little different for both the quarterbacks
you see behind us. The guy on top doesn't have
to be Superman. The guy in the bottom in Chiles
has got to be special for them to move forward.
Is that out of line? Do you think?

Speaker 7 (38:47):
No, it's not out of line.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
I think there's a lot that helps the guy up top.
I think there's a defense with Martindale and with his
defensive court, the defensive Coordinatorsian Week, Martindale the system that
he started getting comfortable with at the end of the year.
Now you add Hid from Arkansas, you add some more
defensive rushes. I'm excited to see what that guy Benny
is going to do for Michigan this year. There's a
lot of players that Michigan have to help him out.

(39:09):
And they also last time I checked, they just won
nas A championship two years ago, so there's still a
lot of that around that program. Aidan Childs has the
unfortunate pleasure of leading a team that has been struggling
since twenty twenty one, and realistic they were struggling that year.
They just had a guy by the name of Kay
nine that was freaking insane, that was electric. A lot

(39:30):
is going to be on this guy because we don't
know what coach Jonathan Smith is. We don't know if
he's a guy just filling in for the next guy,
or if he's going to be the coach that's there.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Even though he was successful at his previous.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
Stot means it means, it means nothing, It means nothing.
This is different.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Did you span on that, bra Can you span on that?

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Well, he was He had some success in Washington State.
Excuse had some success in Washington State and Oregon State.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
Excuse me.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
He had success in Oregon State, which is a which
was a school in a conference that was depleting, that
was about to be eroded, that was taking was disappearing forever.
A lot of those schools are now in other conferences.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I think there's only two left, Washington State, but.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
I think Michigan State.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Michigan State is probably a Big ten, which right now
is the best college conference in football.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Do you think so? You think it's better than SC who.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Won that championship last year, who won that year before that? Yeah,
that's Big ten, Big ten. What happened when Michigan played
the SEC last time I checked, They dubbed Alabama twice.
What happened when Ohio State played all their members in SEC?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's not just on the SCC. I mean, Texas beat
Michigan rather handily last year.

Speaker 7 (40:40):
Congratulations fair. If you want to go there, I'll considering.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
And they lost their head coach about seven offers of
coordinators and twenty two players in the NFL. Congratulations, they
absolutely did. But you look at top the bottom. Last
time I checked, Penn State's in there, Michigan's in there,
Oregon's in there, Ohio State's in there.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, I get it, and I your pride. I try
to sell is it the truth? Like I don't think
it's the truth outside of Okay, I don't believe in
Penn State with all due respect.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Believe in l s U and Brian Kelly last year.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Necessarily, but I believe in him more than I believe
in James Franklin.

Speaker 7 (41:13):
That's fair.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
I'm in agreement with that statement. But when SEC was winning,
when SEC was on top, we gave them that because
they were on top outside of Georgia and Texas, who's
who well, I.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Mean, obviously Alabama had that long run. And if I'm
a bit look if I'm a big ten. What have
you done for I'm saying the same thing you're saying. Okay,
if you're the SEC though, you're looking at like, hold on, okay,
you had the last two who was king in the mountain?
The previous ten?

Speaker 7 (41:44):
Who was the president last term?

Speaker 5 (41:46):
It doesn't matter, right, Okay, I mean the last the
last president doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
I actually forgot that it was Joe Biden, so I
asked that question.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
So did he. But my point is, my point is
we're looking at longevity, and we're looking at for the
most part, we're looking at what in the world is
the best. And if you want to pick out the
best team, then you've got that argument over the last
two years. If you're looking at the best depth, then
I think the se still still reigns supreme.

Speaker 7 (42:15):
That's fair.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
But Oregon's just you know, Oregon and Phil Knight just
donated two billion months, two billion dollars to a program
that's already been the top of the n C Double A.
Now they can't win, but they're floating around two three
every single year no matter who the coach is and
Dan Lannings are now, So I think Oregon gets stroked.
I think Texas. Uh, my dad's texts anyway, Uh Oregon.

(42:38):
You look at how state is, You look at how
state is right now the national championship Local Michigan is
going to do Penn State. You add to that where
they were, look at whether all of them fell last
year in the rankings and in the final rankings as well.
So I kind of look at it from from that
that point of view.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Fair enough, let us know in the chat, and we've
got plenty of people in the chat and in the
super Chat, the kool Aid could keep.

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Speaker 5 (44:10):
That, uh, the Big Ten the other thing too. No
no no no, no, no no no no no.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
Just hear me out, Just hear me out.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Big ten is a Big ten is an interesting conference
that you have to really truly understand the makeup of
the Big ten before you get in. And this isn't
about who's better that you see a Big ten. It's
just a different conference. It goes back to your question
about Jonathan Smith. Rich Rod was a hell of a
coach before he came here, and you can argue, I
get it. You know they didn't give him. They didn't
give they know I'm not going there. They didn't give

(44:40):
him enough time. I disagree with that, but if that's
what you want to say, fine. Rich Rod was a
damn good coach, but when he came to Michigan, he
had to realize how the conference was, how the players are,
what the weathers are, what the energy is, what the
games are like, what the physicality of the conference was.
Just because you had success out there on the West
Coast and different, we'll say out of respect, a different

(45:02):
type of conference themself. Just because you had success out there,
it doesn't mean you're coming to the Big Ten where
your boys are gonna have to play in Columbus in November.
You're gonna have to take kids and playing that all
white out that they call Happy Valley in November when
it's dark and when it's nighttime. You got to come
nann Arbor every single year. It's a different conference when

(45:25):
you come into it. If you don't know, if you
just come in arrogant and high headed, and so that's
more so when I'm when I'm leaning, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Think that's I think that's a fair point. I think
you could. You could use plenty of examples of guys
who've come to the Big Ten and haven't had success.
For sure, you could use examples of guys who have
come to the Big Ten and had success, which is
a little surprising, even if maybe fleeting for some for example,
and others who've come like James Franklin, who I know
he's got really good records against a lot of teams,

(45:53):
but against the two best teams in this conference as
of light, he has not had anything worth writing home
about you. And he came from Vanderbilt in the SEC,
so and if you want to look at it that way,
how in the world does he have so much success
against the Big Ten? The SEC was maybe I don't
know why he left. Did he lead because it was
too challenging. Did he lead because he didn't think he

(46:15):
could recruit and concrue recruit against those those teams in
the SEC? I'm not sure why.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
He came at a good time. He came at a
good time in the Big Ten terms for him, Big
ten was in a verge of crossing over trying to
figure it out outside of Ohio State and Wisconsin. At
the time he came in, it was really just Wisconsin,
Ohio State, and Iowa in this consistent wave of no offense,
but we played discipline defense. Everybody else is in transition
or firing coaches or don't have money, whether it's Maryland, Rutgers, Northwestern, Purdue,

(46:45):
bad coaching, Nebraska trying to figure it out ever since
they left the Big Twelve and they can't get the recruiting.
He came into a school, It's Penn State. Penn State
is an iconic school. It's not necessarily that hard, that
difficult to recruit to Penn State. You add somebody that
knows how to recruit, it's not hard to get kids
to go to Penn State.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Would go to Penn State? Oh yeah, I mean that's
in the middle of nowhere, man, I mean.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
It's college name of college.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, but there's not much to do. Look, you and
I have both been there plenty. There's not a lot
to do there. But for kids, that is part of
the equation. True, but it is. You're not saying there's
a lot to do in Fayetville, Arkansas, either. But I'm
just saying if that's one of the elite places in
the Big Ten, so be it. But I do think
it can be challenging to recruit kids to play there,

(47:35):
unless they're from the state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Yeah, I think more so in the NFL it's challenging.
Not necessarily college you're giving a kid a college degree.
You're giving a kid. However, much money is in ile space,
and it's still the college experience and a college experience.
Penn State they're known for doing it. That white out
is talked about. Anything is jump around. It's at Wisconsin
or Death Valley or onsin Stadium. So I think you

(48:00):
mix in that with history, how many Heisman Trophy wins,
some national championships. A story coach, you know, whether you
want to talk about the other stuff or not. A
story coach, it's not hard the kids going to be
his day.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I agree, there's the atmosphere special I'm talking about from
the entire experience if you're if you're a student athlete,
and what there may be to do there. It's it's
not like the places that we're more familiar with. The
last thing I'd say is Brian Kelly was successful everywhere
he went Grand Valley, Central, Michigan, Cincinnati, Notre Dame. They

(48:32):
got to a national championship. You get his as kke,
But he went to a national championship. What's he done
at LSU?

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Not much?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Okay, And I'm not trying to take anything away from him,
But that's a it's a I think it's a really
tough conference. If you want to say the top heavy
part of the Big Ten is equal to that of
the top heavy part of the SEC, I'll buy that if.
But I'm talking about from a depth standpoint, I think
the SEC still has the advantage. And I don't like that,
by the way. I hate saying that because I think

(49:00):
they toot their own horn too much. I want to see,
I've been on this pulpit forever. The smart thing to do,
if this is all driven by television, you and I
both know it is right, it's all driven by TV ratings.
Bring the damn teams from the SEC up to the
Big Ten world in November and let them play when
the leaves are changing, the wind is higher, is swippier,

(49:24):
and it's colder. That's what I want to see, Amen,
That's what I want to see. And if it means
that a Big ten school has got to go down
there early in the season where it's hot and everything.
So be it. But why won't the SEC or college
football in general, or the networks work on that type
of situation where you get a one for one. You preach,

(49:46):
that's what should be done if you're all about the
fans and you're all about college football's experience, when really
they're all about the money, and that would be a
money maker.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
I'm thinking to see that anymore.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Okay, instead of seeing Minnesota play in ann arb in November,
bring a team like Georgia there and see what happens.
Let's face it, one or two losses is not going
to kill you to try and reach the playoffs, which
is now going to be one hundred and twenty six teams.
That's something. So if that's the point and the schedule
doesn't matter that much, really bring the teams from the

(50:18):
warm weather and bring them up here. Remember Florida State
played in ann Arbor. It wasn't too long ago. Well
it wasn't, So you understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, one what I'm saying, But are people are jocking
for a position now because of the playoffs? People want
to put themselves in the best position to have the
best ranking ever, Why am I scheduling the SEC team
at this point at the end of like, that's what
the news.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
The loss isn't gonna matter that much. It's really when
you got twelve teams. And by the way, the College
Football Playoff Committee comes out and brilliantly says, we're going
to take strength of schedule more into account. What the
hell have you been doing? Of course that should matter.
So if you're willing to do that, and you're hosting
that team, and that team's willing to do it, and
you do it the following year, what's wrong with it?

(51:00):
Instead of scheduling Army probably a bad example because they
can be a pain in the ass the way they
run their football. But instead of scheduling, you know, the
University of Charlotte, how about bringing a team from the
SEC up.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
If I'm a war manual, I'm not doing it. And
here's the here's the point. It's fifteen games now to
win the national championship. It'll be sixteen soon. Why do
I need to play one of these? Why do I
need to play Georgia at the beginning of the year,
and then I gotta go through my schedule it so
then I have to play in the Big Big Ten Championship.
Then I gotta run through this playoff system by the
time my kids, because they are kids. By the time

(51:35):
my kids get to second playoff game, national championship game,
they're exhausted.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
All right, Then don't give me this crap that you
want to go play in Germany. Okay, Then I'm gonna
play Western Michigan in Germany the first week of the season,
where I'm gonna take my guys all the way over
fly for twelve hours. Are okay? And I'm missing out
on a home game for fifty five thousand people in Germany.
It's because what you're supposed to do at least, this
is what I was told so much best for college football.

(52:01):
And by the way, you and I both know, and
if I'm an athletic director and a head coach, I'm
not keen on the idea either, so I understand what
your point of view. My problem is that TV generates
all of this. You and I know that anybody who
doesn't hasn't paid attention long enough. TV generates all this.
That's where TV should be going, because it's about the fans,

(52:23):
and the fans want to see this stuff.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
It's about money for NC double A and the reason
why they're doing this expanding we know that. But even deeper,
it's about money in the sense that you gotta find
some money to pay these kids. You gotta find some
money to keep up. You got boosters from Kansas, you
got their alumnus donating three hundred million dollars, resetting the value.
They're trying to take this game overseas and the school's going.
They're trying to garner some national pill Maybe they team

(52:46):
up with some brands over there. Now you got some
brand I don't know about from Hamburg, Germany or Berlin, Germany.
Now they want to put money into Western's program, or
they want to put some money.

Speaker 7 (52:56):
Into with the other team that's playing.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, let's let's go to Frank for crying out loud
Frank play in front of fifty five thousand people instead
of having Western Michigan make about eight hundred grand to
a million dollars, busting to ann Arbor and playing in
front of one hundred thousand. With all due respect to
the people in Germany, I've been there, I've called games
over there for NFL Europe. If I'm a Western Michigan player,

(53:21):
do I want to play in the Big House against
U of M growing up watching that on a regular basis,
or go to Frankfurt and have Schnitzer for dinner the
night before I played?

Speaker 5 (53:33):
I will say this to It also gives us a
chance to go over there and embarrass ourselves like Kansas
State's quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 (53:39):
Father and brother? Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (53:43):
What's what is wrong with somebody?

Speaker 5 (53:46):
How is your brother and your father outside of the
stadium fighting?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Peel back on the pints? Man? Thank you seriously? How
many who's he's drinking way too much guinners or something?

Speaker 6 (53:58):
Ricky got to see this in the clothes.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
Don't get me wrong, You guys can't get into a disagreement.
But you gentlemen out out of the country, come home,
Dad and Pops.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Somebody brings Somebody brings up a really good point, they said.
I guess I don't understand what I'm missing out. Michigan
played Texas last year, Michigan played Oklahoma this year, played
Texas next year. Ohio's playing Tech. I said in November
is what I said. I get it, You're right about that.
I'm not disagreeing with you. What you're missing is I
said November, when the leaves turned colors, when the wind

(54:30):
is whippier, when there's a chance for snow, when there's
mid West football weather. What you're missing is I said November.
See not now.

Speaker 7 (54:41):
The difference is when you play in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
Well, I guess they get paid in cause now, but
it's still a different mindset. When you play in the
NFL and you get paid, you know what's coming when
you go to when you play let's say, let's say
last year for the Los Angeles Rams, you know where
they went in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (54:56):
They had to go to Philly. They had to go
to Philly towards the end of January. That weather's bad.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
But as a twenty eight year old man in the
NFL is getting paid, you understand, you're prepared. I know
that this is gonna come. With this, I know when
I feel this, I got to push through like you're
still nineteen twenty twenty one years old.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
Them jokers can't push through like grown men.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
And I think that's what they're trying to protect them
front with you, some bs, because we deal with it.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah, Well that tells you something about that conference thing.
If that's the mindset, If that is the mindset, then
that's that's part of the problem right there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
They yeah, they want the advantage. They want to keep
the leverage, keep the advantage. The only teams I remember
coming up here is LSU. LSU has come up here
twice in like the last ten years because I believe
they got They smacked Wisconsin at lambeau Field when they
had Leonard Fournette. Yeah, and they did it maybe three
years ago. I think they came up here and beat
somebody else to them. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
You know, I think these are you know, college basketball,
what do we have? We have these market we do
We have these market matches ups on a regular basis
at the beginning of every basketball season. What do you see?
You see Michigan State, Kentucky Duke in North Carolina in
the same tournament. People can't get enough of that stuff.

(56:13):
One loss like that. Now, I know it's different nca
season basketball compared to football, but with the way football
is going these days and the expansion of their playoff format,
I don't think an early season loss like that is
going to do a whole lot of damage to you,
if at all basketball.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
I'm thinking about basketball is and you just said that,
But you play anywhere, it's the same.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
It's the same.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Crowd, a little louder if you're going to Row, you know,
if you're playing UNC Bars playing dude, But it's on
the court, it's the same weather, it's the same atmosphere.
So they don't mind football. Those coaches absolutely know there's
a difference from Nick Saban when he was in the run.
I'm not necessarily trying to go to Columbus in November
to go see Urban Meyer. Yeah, I don't want to

(56:58):
go see Ezekiel Elliot when it's code outside and I
know they're gonna give them the ball fifty times. Right,
let me keep my advantage down here in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I get that there there's a protection there for them
and their teams. But as I mentioned numerous times, I'm
talking about one for one, and I'm also talking about
a situation where things are drastically different now than they
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Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Away, Hey, definitely.

Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
And it was going back to the elite talk about
the Big ten Sightless fifty three. I know that's our
guy Byrne, who is also a regular supporter of our
Superchat and all of our shows five Dollars super Chat,
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want to call the Big ten elitue, someone besides you
and OSU needs to win the NATI. The SEC had

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four different schools win Natties in that era.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
Yeah, but see, you guys keep going back to twenty
ten when cam Newton won in Auburn and then they
made it to it again in twenty thirteen and lost
to Florida State.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
I get that SEC has.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Been the most dominant conference in college football in the
last thirty forty years. Realistically, I have no problem with that.
I agree with you right now. I'm simply talking about
the last three years. What have you done for me lately?
I'm talking about what Michigan did two years ago and
what they're gonna do this year. I'm talking about what
Ohio State has continued to do and what they did
this past season winning the Big Ten as well. And
one of the teams that they went through twice to

(01:03:51):
get to the Big Ten, well, guess what, that's Oregon,
who just spent two point five billion dollars shot of
Phield Knight to revamp their program, which has already been
So I'm talking about what it looks like currently. Yeah,
penn s they can't win it. But every year, don't
we hear that, old Missullaine Kiffin are going to.

Speaker 7 (01:04:06):
Figure it out?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Every year?

Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Don't we hear that Texas A and M has put
all this oil money. Oh, they're gonna surprise and this
is what they're gonna do Texas and it doesn't happen.
The same things happened with Texas.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
When's last time Texas went to the national championship, I'll
save you it was again. It was Cole McCoy against Alabama,
which they lost to what you're talking about. We know
what they've done for the last two decades.

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
I agree with you in this snapshot, though, In this snapshot,
I think the Big Ten at the top is better.
I think both of the conferences are struggling at the
bottom realistically, and I think that's what you got schools like,
what is matt Ruhle and Nebraska going to do?

Speaker 7 (01:04:43):
Are you going to add to it?

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
Or are you going to consistently be a Rutgers or
we're like, oh, they're not worth anything. So I agree,
But I just think winning this year, winning last year,
and the dominance of at least the records, I would.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Say that, Yeah, the Big Ten.

Speaker 7 (01:05:00):
Sorry, I'm sorry Tennessee and Josh Hype my bad.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah, right, exactly, the Big Ten's floor needs to rise.
I think that's fair to say. To your point. Look,
since the College Football Playoffs, the Big Ten has had
four appearances. They're three and one.

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
The SEC has had ten appearances. There's six and four.
They've got three different champions. The Big Ten has two
different champions. So for what that's worth, Alabama, Georgia and
l s U obviously for the SEC, and for the
Big Ten, we know it's Michigan and Ohio State. Uh.
There was an article that anymore, by the way, before
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I read an article earlier today about teams that need
to make a specific move in the NFL before the
regular season begins and what it would be. And one
of those trades that they've suggested is the Lions connecting
with the Patriots. Now, in the past, the Patriots have

(01:06:23):
kind of fleeced Detroit, and this article brings up Kyle Vanoy,
who I thought at the time was a really good
pick by Detroit. It turned out to be a bad pick,
but he thrived literally did he thrived in New England.
Here's their suggestion. Their suggestion is work out a deal
with the Patriots. Patriots get a sixth round choice for

(01:06:46):
next year and in exchange, the Lions get Anthony Jennings
and a seventh round pick. Would you do that, considering
he's guaranteed half his two and a half million dollars
salary year. He's an outside linebacker, doesn't necessarily get to
the quarterback a lot, but he does create havoc. He's

(01:07:08):
only twenty seven, he's sixty two, two hundred and fifty
five pounds. He's a former third round pick of the Patriots.
And the belief is that he doesn't quote unquote fit
Mike Vrabel's defensive scheme there in New England, which blows
my mind. You know, he doesn't fit my scheme. If
he's a good flip and player, find a place for him.

(01:07:29):
But the last two years, he started thirty of his
thirty one games played, he started all sixteen. He started
sixteen games, not all sixteen. He missed a game, but
he started sixteen games last year he started fourteen the
year before. He's had four sacks over the last two years,
which isn't a lot, but he's had twenty one tackles
for loss and he's had thirteen quarterback hits from his spot.

(01:07:52):
Good run defender. Would you do that deal? Do you
think they need a little bit more depth in that regard?

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
This was definitely not on my radar, So letting you
know that now, I would, though we've set up here
and talked about the linebacker position for the Detroit Lions
is one of the ones of need. Like I actually
want them to draft the linebacker in first round next year.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
That's just me, That's just me.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
But yeah, you're talking about adding depth to a position
of need, which is a linebacker position. What is Malcolm
royan Rega is going to be completely? What is Alexandzeloni's
role going to be this year? We assume he's gonna
play like he did when he first got back last.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Year, But Josh Pascal, he won't be back to.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
I'm sorry who exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Like past Pascal and Martin. I'm kind of like with
Pascal and Martin and another guy who we know, we
won't mention him today. There's no reason to mention the
one guy today you mentioned him earlier. I'm at my
WIT's end with those guys. A linebacker position, it's about
a position because you feel like you've drafted the guys
and you've bought the guys on your team to show
up your front.

Speaker 7 (01:08:54):
You think you got your front.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Together with DJ Reader as well as Talik Williams that
you drafted this year. The back end, you know your set.
You only know you have Jack Campbell. You only know
you trust in Jack Campbell.

Speaker 7 (01:09:06):
At the linebacker positions.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
So yes, and you talk about giving up a seventh
round I mean a sixth round. Excuse me, Yes, I
will be in You received a seventh rounded back and
you get after it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Yeah, I don't know. We're not convinced it at Derek
Barnes and his health, Marcus Davenport and his health. We
just mentioned a couple of other names, right. You mentioned Martin.
It's been a disappointment so far for him on to
work eight to a certain extent, He's gonna miss a
second year in the last three years has been a
bit of a disappointment. We're talking about SECD round picks here, okay,

(01:09:39):
and I think they're important picks. We praise Brad Holmes
because we trust him and because of many of the
great picks and great moves that he's made. All Right,
every general manager is gonna have some full pause. I
mean they're gonna miss on something. I hate to tell you.
Some of the best franchises of all time have missed
on certain draft picks. How do you recover from those

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draft picks? Is the key? If that's all it would
take to get Athrety Jennings who played at Alabama. By
the way, sorry sec again. If that's all it would take,
I would do that in a heartbeat, even if you
only had him for this year. I know you have
to weigh how he feels in the locker room, but
he seems like a guy who would fit their system,

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doesn't he.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
First of all, let's take a step back. Patriots, you
owe us. Let's start depend the Patriots. Oh, the Detroit Lions,
for they little what you pull a couple of years ago.
So I agree with you on that they fleeced us,
as they say.

Speaker 6 (01:10:37):
And they've bmboozled us.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
They hoodwink this, ran it straight or let him up anyway.
Getting back to it, Yeah, that's what it's take one numbercent.
You know what that guy can be?

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Move on?

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
Yeah, because it's that position. It's the linebacker position. It's
one that I really feel like we got to dial
into some players. It's the one where I feel like
we don't have the future. You got Jack Campbell, hell
of a player. You got Jack, but you don't have
a mic. You don't have the will or the Sam
excuse me, Sam linebacker?

Speaker 7 (01:11:11):
So yeah, why not Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
The thing that's concerning a little bit to me is
with some of those depth players we mentioned. Answork with
a second round pick Josh Pascal, who I thought was
a really good pick out of Kentucky and I've been
proven wrong so far. A second round choice. You mentioned
Broderick Martin, he was a third round pick. Hendon Hooker

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was a third round pick. Those are four guys right
there who are supposed to be at some point it's
supposed to be your starters. Those guys are supposed to
start for you. Not saying that a guy like Hendon Hooker.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
There is supposed to start for you.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
And the one guy Hendon Hooker who oh, by the way,
what we don't talk about step in terms of how
he's played in the preseason and how the progression has been.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
You know, we've given him some excuses here and there.
He's twenty eight sep Yeah, I know he's twenty eight
years old.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
At if you can't see it now, this isn't like
a third year guy that's twenty four. This isn't third
year guy that's even twenty five. I was twenty five
of my third year. This ain't that think about that.
This is somebody that's twenty eight. He's infringing on thirty
and you just told me somebody.

Speaker 7 (01:12:21):
Else was old it was twenty eight, So what the
hell is ending Hooker?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Jamir Gibbs is twenty three and he's going into year three. Yeah,
he's twenty three years old and he's already considered one
of the best running backs in the National Football League.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
Yeah, nobody has him past four. Agreed, Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
If you want, if you want Henry, you want Barkley
John Robinson. Yeah, Jamir Gibbs, you're right, he's and I
we many of us would take him higher, not just
because we're family Lyon's family friends, but you know, the
bottom line, it's it's lost in that shuffle. You're right,
Hendon Hooker twenty seven to twenty eight years old this season,

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that is a big deal. And to not take any
snaps and I truly believe this. He was done in
last year when Teddy Bridgewater was brought into the playoff game,
even though it was here, I'm gonna hand it off.
Jared Golf under goes under that blue ten and that
coaching staff gets together and they look at each other
and they go, I want the guy who was coaching
high school football a month ago. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Sometimes you don't get over things like that, I know,
because the conversation always surrounds that, whether it's whether it's
your friends, whether it's your family, whether it's strangers online,
whether it's even the people within your own organization. The
Lions man, why didn't we play Why didn't we play Hindy?
Why didn't Heicker get Hindy get a shot at that?
That weighs heavily on your mental I feel like you're

(01:13:44):
always trying to combat that and then you start to press.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
A little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:13:46):
And I think that's what we've seen.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
Sometimes you just got to get completely out of a situation.

Speaker 7 (01:13:51):
You need new air.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
I'm not comparing him to Jared Golf, but Jared Golf
had to get new air. He needed out of Los Angeles,
like to be able to find himself again. And I
think maybe that's what needs to happen with Hendon Hooker. Yeah,
he needs that new air, new situation, find himself again
because everybody, now when you think of Hindon Hooker, you're
thinking of these three interceptions, three turnovers, and the fact
that he didn't get to take those snaps when Jared

(01:14:13):
goff win that tent.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
The one guy they did draft, it looks like a winner.
I mean he looks like a stud. He looks like
a tough sob is Isaac Teslaw. I would argue he
had might have turned more heads than anybody else this preseason.
Who else would be in that conversation?

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
He had three touchdowns, right, and in limited roles. I
think he had ten catches and thirteen targets. That's a lot,
that is efficient.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
That is a line.

Speaker 7 (01:14:42):
He had three touchdowns. I didn't have three.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
Touchdowns and preseason my whole career, I only had two
preason touchdowns.

Speaker 7 (01:14:48):
He's got three in the span of three games.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
So I look, well, who else who's impressed you start there?
Who's impressed you outside of the obvious?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah, Jordan Meeks impressed me.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
Okay, the best player in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
The best player in the world, right, I thought, I
thought he did something. I don't know how many how
many wide receivers you're gonna keep, man, Seriously, I mean
you're gonna keep seven? Would you really keep seven wide receivers?

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
So you have I'm on Russy Brown, you have Jmo,
you have Khalif you have Tesla, you have Tim Patrick.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
That's five, correct, and then maybe maybe.

Speaker 7 (01:15:27):
Me one more and well Lovett.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
You take me so maybe yeah, maybe maybe love it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
Yeah, that gives you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
That gives you how many? How many would you keep?

Speaker 7 (01:15:39):
I keep on, I keep those seven?

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
You would keep seven?

Speaker 7 (01:15:42):
Well, we'll put it this away.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
You'll put two on practice squad so they don't count
against the rotation like Meek's and Levet practice squad guys.
That doesn't count against the roster.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Or that's correct, But wouldn't they have to be exposed
to a waivers first and then bring him back on
the past practice squad? How many do you have protective
the practice squad? Meeks would probably be lost in that regard.
Grant Stewart impressed me. I thought he was really good back. Yeah,
I like that one. Yeah. We were just talking about

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linebackers and guys who have kind of helped you. And
I'll say this too. And I know he threw two
picks in his first preseason game, but afterwards he didn't
throw any and he threw five tds. I thought Kyle
Allen solidified, not just the fact that he's the number two,
but I would it wouldn't take my breath away if
you had to come in for Jared Goff for a

(01:16:33):
quarter or two.

Speaker 7 (01:16:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
We were talking about this last week and I'm I'm
slow now. We were talking about this last week and
I said that I did like Alan showed what he did,
he was fine as the backup, and we'd be good.
We also say we would venture to go out and
get somebody else to go. I stand back on that.

Speaker 7 (01:16:51):
Now. I'm final with Alan.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
I'm fining what he is and find what he's done
his experience over thirty games he started, I want to
say thirteen games.

Speaker 7 (01:16:57):
He told me his last week. Kind of watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
He understands the offense. You bring him in there, he's
not going to do too much. Like he's not coming
in there guns blazing. Hey look, hey, hey, all right,
right is it before and here's what we're going He's
not doing that. He's gonna come in there, he's going
to hand the ball off.

Speaker 7 (01:17:12):
He'll do this subtle thing. So I'm comfortable with him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I thought he tried to do too much in the
first game, and not just because he threw picks. I've
said this before. The one was egregious. The out pattern
was egregious. He stared him down. I think it was
a slow and it should have been a pick six.
I didn't think the fade route in the end zone
was quite as bad. I thought he looked on rhythm
and you know, his steps and his motion and everything

(01:17:36):
else were really good over the last three games of
the preseason, and it felt like he was in charge
of the offense. It felt like he had a really
good grasp of it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
It looks like he's playing. It looked like he started
to play. From the standpoint of I'm not worried about
Hendon Hooker, like I'm not worried about am I going
to be the second?

Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
Am I going to be the third? Once I think
he knew he was gonna be two.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
He's just relaxed and the game to him and the
floid a lot better.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Yeah. I would also add this. I would watch Minnesota
claim or bring in Carson Wentz and I immediately thought,
damn it. I wish Detroit had done the same. Dan
Campbell has never gone into since he's been the coach
with the Lions the previous four years, so not a
huge sample size. He's never gone into Week one with

(01:18:25):
three quarterbacks it's been two. Do you think that stays that?
Would you can expose Hendon Hooker? No, I don't think anybody's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Picking him up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
I don't think he's given any other general manager or
reason to put him on a whiteboard and go I'll
tell you what, when the Lions get rid of this guy,
we're gonna pounce. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:18:43):
I think he's gonna stay with too.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
I don't think Dan cambll is one of those guys
that thinks about, well, I gotta have a third guy.
I just got to make sure. I think he stops
in one. His plan is Jared Goff. His plan is
what Jared Goff is gonna be.

Speaker 7 (01:18:53):
Able to do.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
That's what we're going to rock and roll with. And oh,
by the way, I saw Allen in there. Allen is
enough if we need Alan Allen to be found. I
don't think he's preparing for three, because in that means
he's preparing for Jared Goff to get hurt. I just
think old school mentality. I think that's how he's approaching.
He's not gonna have three, It'll be two.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Unlike your first team that drafted you, they're gonna go
with four Sevenland it's it's unbelievable. You see here, it's
a really good picture. Tesla the third round, Williams the
first round, and Rattled's the second round. He's been You've
got three starters, which I think, well, you and I
can disagree on the Teslaw. I think he's the third

(01:19:32):
wide receiver. I think he's solidified it. I think he's
deserved it. I think he's better here.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Old, let me ask you this question, because we've had
this and we've been going back and forth over and
I've you know whatever. Now that we're getting close to
the preseason, you tell him, I mean the season. You're
telling me he's a starter. Are we really gonna pay
that much attention to the guys that he was going
against in training camp? Because although he ran some good routes,
although he made some nice contested catches, they're still against
guys that probably won't make that won't be on the

(01:19:58):
opening day roster for the teams they play against. Right,
but he still hasn't done that against you know, answer
who we opened up the season again, what's that secondary?
Have you done it against the starter for that one?
Have you done it against the second team guy? Do
you know what you're gonna do in games. Tim Patrick
has done that. Tim Patrick is okay. Tim Patrick is fine.

Speaker 7 (01:20:16):
With all that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
We don't know that about Tesla yet, so we can't
necessarily take the preseason and say that he's a starter
based on going against four or five six's and guys.

Speaker 7 (01:20:27):
They may be working at dunkin Donuts in a week.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Yeah, I don't know if they were four or fives
and sixes, and they could be twos and threes, which
still doesn't sell you on that. Here's what I do know.
He was available, the other guy wasn't. And I watched
a really good segment on Woodward Sports called Braylan's Breakdown,
and Braylan's Breakdown gave me a lot of confidence on

(01:20:51):
what Isaac Tesla could do because of his size, his speed,
his legs, his body control, and maybe more importantly from
Braylan's breakdown, And you should watch it sometimes because it's
really really good his hands and how he catches the ball.
That's what I'm looking at as much as anything else.
I get that veterans deserve a lot of respect, and
I tip my hat to Tim Patrick. I'm not saying

(01:21:13):
don't take him. I'm saying I want that guy on
my first unit when he's out there, because I think
he deserved it. I think there are certain moments in
players' careers where other players looking go, holy crap, A
lot of people are asking about us about one guy,
and a lot of us are talking about that one guy,
and I think that's him in this preseason.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
That's fair, you know, that was just my thought. I
just wanted to ask, what are your thoughts on that
him actually getting out there going to the stars. I
told you the Victor Cruz s doer. Yeah, and I
stand from one that story. I'm I say it all
the time, but it makes sense because just.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
For those who didn't hear it, can you just reiterated.

Speaker 5 (01:21:46):
Twenty ten preseason second game of the years with the
Jets and we were playing the Giants and Rix Ryan
wanted to be the thomps in New York. He wanted
to be excuse me, he wanted to be the Giants.
He wanted to be the big dog, the top dogs.
We were coming up the AFC Championship, lost the year before,
so he played the starters in Week two for the
whole half, which you know, four preseason games.

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
They weren't doing that back then you know. Game two
is like.

Speaker 5 (01:22:11):
We get two series, we'll get to the end of
the first quarter. Game three is the half, and in
game four you don't play. He said, skip that.

Speaker 7 (01:22:18):
Revs. You're in there.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
Crow, you're in there, Jason Taylor, you're in there. Everybody
was in there. And we played against the Giants, well,
they played their backups, and they played a guy by
the name of Victor Cruz who no one really knew
about out of U Mass And he had three catches,
he had three touchdowns, and he had one hundred and
seventy eight yards on Revers two of them and on
Camara the other one. So you knew then, but you knew,

(01:22:43):
but to that point he did that on Revers and
Crow and it was like, yeah, put him in the game,
get him in the game. And then he end up
started starting opposite of a team Nicks at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yeah, and so they came. The Salted Dance was pretty
special too. The dude could play. He was flat out
really good and I'm not.

Speaker 7 (01:22:59):
Inded with too.

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
It ended quick like he he left New York, he
goes to Chicago, scores a touchdown on like the first
and second player in the preseason and then that was.

Speaker 7 (01:23:16):
You know what, you know what, Ricky.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
But I think Victor was one of the first people
to want one because she she was she messed up
last guy she was with, But I think he was
one of the first. He kind of messed himself up too,
but she was part of I think he was one
of the first guys to understood the brand and where
money was going because Victor was hella into the fashion
side of things in New York. When you want to

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suit bowl New York, you can do what the hell
you want to do. And I think he looked at
it from am I trying to fight to play for
this buma as Chicago Bears? Or am I gonna go
do this deal with Louis Vaton that's gonna send me
over the fashion Week? Or am I going to do
this business endeavor? So I think that's what he did.
He made a business decision and it worked out well
for him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
It just seems like, you're right, he suddenly he's in
Chicago and then the next thing you know, is on
Dancing with the Stars and you're like, what the hell
is going on here? But I think it's a really
good problem to have. I think it's a really good
debate there are. I was talking with my sons over
the weekend. They're they're big Tim fat Patrick fans, and
they're like, Dad, he you know, Tesla's not the three
and here's why. And I gave him the same spiel

(01:24:18):
that I gave you. I wouldn't take seven wide receivers.
I want my depth to be upfront with rotational guys.
I think you're gonna see all these targets for Jamison Williams,
and I'm on Ross Saint Brown and Isaac Teslaw and
Tim Patrick eventually maybe a Khalif Raymond. Outside of that,

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I don't need. I mean, sure, you want to have
some security there in case somebody gets hurt, but I
want those five guys. I'm not dressing anybody else. Those
are the five guys I'm dressing every single Sunday, and
those are the five guys I trust.

Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
Especially with the injury concerns amongst that defensive line, this
is something that you have to have bea strength. We
saw what it did for all of the teams that
made somewhat of a run in the playoffs, and the
Detroit Lions we already know what they're going to have
on the second half of the season, knock on wood.
But to start the year, you want to know that
you have some depth and you have players that can

(01:25:12):
do more than help you tread water.

Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
You're a squad that.

Speaker 8 (01:25:15):
Has elite expectations, and I do feel that in terms
of making sure you have as many dogs in the
trenches as possible, specially dealing with injury concerns and a
hope and a prayer and in a belief that Aden
Hutchinson is going to be right to stay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Here's the other thing, and I struggle with this sometimes
because of what Braylan just said about playing against guys
who were lower on the depth chart. All right, but
what are you asking of a guy go out there perform?
He had thirteen targets, he had ten receptions, he had
one hundred and forty six yards, and he had three touchdowns.

(01:25:53):
Not to mention, the thing that drew your attention more
than anything else is his willingness to block down field. Now,
you are much better at figuring out whether or not
this guy ran really good routes and he got the
right spacing and all that other stuff. But to the
naked eye, to those who don't have the NFL eyeball
test that you do. He did two things really well

(01:26:15):
at a high level, and I'm not sure what more.
I mean. If you're looking around the room and saying,
this dude is not our three, he's our four or
our five, I'm sure other guys are looking around going,
what the hell does that kid have to do?

Speaker 7 (01:26:26):
Yeah, he's got to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
To be honest, he's got to do when the season starts,
to your point, you get out there and do what
he's doing. Now, when the season starts, you become that
much of an asset or are you responsible? We can
trust you. I use that word trust as it relates
to his team a lot, because it's real. The more
Jared Goff, Johnny Mo, Dan Campbell they can trust you,
then that's when you see the change happen. And then

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that's when you see Tim Patrick go from the starting
number three to more of a on the field coach
for Tesla who's going to take over for him and
then become the guy they drafted him to be the guy.
So you're absolutely correct they drafted him to be more
than the number three. We talked about that last week.
Somebody's not coming back next year. Realistically, and they're hoping
test last. So to your point fact, the faster it happens,

(01:27:12):
maybe the faster they will put him in there because
that's their long term play, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:27:15):
And maybe I have to sit title his shit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Yeah, he's might be on the side well, but we'll see.
I mean, I could be way off base there at
least to start the year, but I think once the
year does get rolling a little bit, he will be
in there. I think he's an absolute beast. I love
what he does. And I'm not gonna lie yet. It's
not like I picked this out of Arkansas for crying
out loud. I did learn on Braylan's breakdown. I think
this is where this show gives you something that nobody

(01:27:37):
else brings to you. And I mean, he's just really
really good at what he does and he's in the
right places at the right time.

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
All right, But you hash you've seen an interesting clip,
interesting topic involved in receive.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
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(01:28:12):
the time, Buddies does it to me all the time,
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That's what I was talking. It was it was Tim. Yeah,
And you know what, I'm looking at him right now.
He doesn't have it. Here's the expectation. Buddies is not

(01:28:34):
far away. Braylan's bowing up on him right now. Tim
is nervous. Tim is really nervous. I think he just
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if you want to go get us the smash stacks,
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Hey, you know what, he's just gotta coming in here now. Hey,
he said.

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But it starts tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
There's a league that starts tonight tonight. Ricky and I
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Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Thanks to all those of you in the chat right now,
whether you're real long TDS or not, Thanks to all
of you in the chat, we really appreciate it. But
I got I got a quick question for you. Were
so much as made of Zidarius Smith and a lot
of people in the chat have been putting that in
right now. Uh, my partner here said a couple of
weeks ago that he would have been signed by last Friday.

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I believe that is still not happened. There's a part
of me that also says, maybe he just doesn't want
to play. There's another part of me that says, if
not Detroit, where how nobody else has really jumped on that.
But if you're looking for some help, who else could
it be? What about Jadavian Clowney? What would be wrong

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with that? Don't give me he's thirty two. Zadari Smith
is thirty two. Jadavion Clowney two years ago had nine
and a half sacks. He hasn't signed with anybody. If
you're looking for depth, all right, and you think you're
gonna get X amount of snaps and X amount of
games out of certain guys Marcus Davenport, for example. What

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would be wrong with bringing in a guy like Jadavion
Clowney to see if he fits or is it the
age too much to overcome.

Speaker 7 (01:36:40):
I don't think he's the age too to overcome.

Speaker 5 (01:36:43):
I just think it's more about how does a player
fit the hate me using this, the culture, the identity.

Speaker 7 (01:36:49):
How does the player fit that? I think was released
as Zadarias Smith.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
You understand who he was, you understand what he brings
to the table, and then you had him so he
understands the table. You saw when he was being on
the field talking to the players in the Texas game
when he wasn't even helmet pads yet. I think with
Jadavian Clowney, I think you're asking him what are you
trying to do?

Speaker 7 (01:37:09):
Like I think it would be.

Speaker 5 (01:37:11):
It's a little nervous of where he's at in this
stage mentally in his career.

Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
He's been playing for ten eleven years. He's built up
who he is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:19):
Hard to condence him and come over here, you know,
to change that mentality, Like what is he going to
be if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Yeah, I guess it would surprise me that he would.
He was in Carolina last year. Carolina, Okay, that was
a horrific season. You've got a chance to go to
a franchise where you can win it all. That's legit.
I'm not talking as a fan here, all right. That
is legit. Even though the belief is the team that
made the playoffs last year, the biggest bet against is

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the Detroit Lions, which blows my mind. I can't figure
that out for the life of me. But either way, Ja,
David Clowney is still productive. He had five and a
half sacks last year. That's not bad in fourteen games.
And I don't know how many snaps he took. We're
talking about. You said this to me last week, and
it really hit home with me. You said, look, you
want a guy for like fifteen to twenty snaps. If

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you could bring him in at a cost saving possibility
there and put him out there for fifteen to twenty
snaps and rotat him with guys like Marcus Davenport. Maybe
you're bringing a guy like Derek Burns off the edge.
What would be wrong with that?

Speaker 5 (01:38:26):
You're talking about a guy when number one overall when
he came out in twenty fourteen, he's gone number one.
He played for the Texas, has some success down in Texas.
I got to anti championships, I want to say one
time they did. But you know what that organization was.
The organization was a tough one. That's what came out
from players. Where there's Andre Johnson who still is in
the ring about it yet although he's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 7 (01:38:46):
Ridiculous from that to some other things.

Speaker 5 (01:38:48):
So that Jade's a player, that Jay's how player feel
and then based on being Jay, players talk, players do things.
Players have certain personalities, certain temper tangents, and things of
that nature. Word gets around where it gets around about
Davin Klein, not even necessarily he did it or not,
or it's true or not.

Speaker 7 (01:39:05):
Then he goes to.

Speaker 5 (01:39:05):
Tennessee and he goes to Cleveland. Cleveland was another bad
situation with the Seattle as it was at the end
they were moving on from Pete Carroll, moving on from
Russell Wilson, so it wasn't the same. So now you
got the guys made a lot of money guy with
number one. Overall, he's been a lot of bad situations
like what is his energy level, what's been said about him.
If I'm Dan Campbell, I'm Brad Holmes, what guy am

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I bringing in here? Am I bringing a guy that's
the number one overall pick, that doesn't like organizations and
at this point is just going to be on the
team to collect the check, won't say very much. Be
in the corner or chilling the corner. I don't know
what that means. I don't know what that leads to.
I'm trying to bring guys into this locker room that
want to work, that want to coach like Zadarius Smith
did on the sideline, and they want to be a part,

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a full part of what the Detroit Lions a building,
and not just Okay, it's my turn to go into
the game. Let me see if I can get a sack.
All right, I didn't get it. I come out and
I'm chilling on the bench. I want you to be
immersed in the Lions culture. And if that's not where
he's at, then that's not why he'll be here.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
I love that. I would say two years ago he
probably had a very similar feel in Baltimore. Not very
true when he had he tied a career high in
nine and a half Sacks. I don't see his name
linked to Detroit or really anybody. But I don't see
much discussion about a guy like that. It's always been
about Zadarias Smith, and I'm just trying to think of

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something else, that's all. I'm okay, I'm trying to think
off the beaten paths. Yeah, if all, I would like
Zadarias Smith back too. I don't for a lot of
all the reasons you just gave us. I'm just wondering,
if him not, If not him, who and what would
be wrong with something like this? If you're willing to say,
I'll go in for a thirty two year old who's

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been productive in his career, has played him winning organizations.
Jenevin Clowney fits that description as well. But I don't
know the player, and I trust the Lions would bring
in the right guy for their culture.

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
As you said, that's all what is with brow Holmes
When he's at that that's a funny picture. When he's
at that podium and when he's talking with Browns, you
get a feel for certain guys he's not gonna bring in.
And I'm not saying David Kallin is one of those guys.
But if he hasn't come in yet, then it's pretty safe.
Joey Bolsa was his name that was hot on the
radar early on.

Speaker 7 (01:41:16):
In free agency. Why didn't they bring Joey Bolsa in?

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
Well, I saw Joey Bosa outside of the stadium when
his brother was playing, about to beat up a regular
fan like things like that. Travel you don't remember another
Ohio State guy. Shoot, I can't think of his name
around Chase, Oh my god, the defensive end that got
drafted by the Washington the Chase. His name was linked
to Detroit and oh, this is the guy they should go,

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this is the guy they.

Speaker 7 (01:41:42):
Should trade four.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
I think it was San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (01:41:45):
But what happened never ever did the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
Were they really in the running to get chased because
of what came out from Washington, The type of person
he was, the type of selfish player he was, He
only played for hisself. So that's why browhmes Lion said,
you know, what, hell of a talent, but we're cool.

Speaker 7 (01:42:02):
And he goes to San Francisco and they're bringing back.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
So if they haven't made a move on a certain guy,
typically that they've heard from credible sources or in their
mind credible sources, and they're not gonna put it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
To a great point. Man. Great points so very important.
And by the way, last year I looked it up.
Jadevin Clowney last year played sixty four percent of the
defensive snaps, so he was out there battling. He was
out there for a Carolina team that was just absolutely awful.
In fourteen games, he started fourteen times and played sixty
four percent of the snaps, which wouldn't be a.

Speaker 7 (01:42:35):
Bad move, Mays.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
He cares, like, if you look at it like that,
if you just took that snapshot, what it means. It
means a given effort that many cares I've been on,
I've been in. I've been on teams that were losing
teams and guys that start you can tell they were
tuned out. You can tell guys are trying to get
off the field by any means necessary. And that doesn't

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appear to what he was doing. So at least you
can tell that he cares about the game. He still
gave me effort to the game.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
I saw a poll last night, an article from CBO
Sports where they ranked the one in two receivers on
every team or the best. So I thought of you
right away. Not to talk dirty, but I thought of
you right away, and wonder where you would think? Just
first blush, where the Lions won? Two punch of aman

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Ran Saint Brown and Jamison Williams would rank. They just
give ten the top ten. I have a dispute with
one of them, but they give the top ten and
then they give some honorable mantions exact Yeah, how'd you know?
How'd you know something? I don't have anything against Brian Thomas.
I think he's really good.

Speaker 7 (01:43:42):
We get to that. It's not him. I agree with
the other person.

Speaker 5 (01:43:45):
The Lions shouldn't be lower than they shouldn't be lower
than five. I'll start the base there, and you can
actually take them up to if you want to. If
you really want him sneaking, you could take them up
to three if you just truly wanted to. I would
have have them four or five.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Okay, But would you have ahead of them Eagles?

Speaker 5 (01:44:06):
Because I say all the time AJ Brown and Devonte Smith?
They cycled through who's number one? A. J. Brown is
a better receiver, but Davonte Smith's not. For aud the
beating past so.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
The number two could easily be a one.

Speaker 7 (01:44:17):
And he does things better than a J. Brown. He's
a better running a J. Brown.

Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
I think he catches post rosy and AJ Brown, I
think he's on. I think he works the sideline just
as good, maybe not better because AJ has a knack
for getting those feet inbout. But I think they're I
think they're one. And you're looking at a guy that
won the Heisman, and when you look at the season,
it was deserving of the highest absolutely, so yeah, I
think they would be one. I think number two belongs

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to Jamar Chase t Higgins.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
Yeah, I had them as one, but okay, I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:44:46):
Good with him as one.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
I actually prefer them at one because he's a triple
Crown guy and t Higgins, if he went to most teams,
he's gonna be a guy to get you twelve thirteen
hundred yards, So I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Yeah. Combined they had twenty eight hundred yards a year ago.

Speaker 7 (01:44:59):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Combined they have twenty seven touchdowns last year, and combined
last year they had over two hundred catches receiver awards.

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
Since we're talking about those, I know another guy that
wanted Blittney kov he plays for the Minnesota Viakings, and
his counterpart is arguably the best receiver in the league.
That's justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison. I think they're they're
on the fritz, just ahead of amar Rai and jame
O to me, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Well those are those are three of what they said.
The only other team and remember Jordan Adison this year
is going to miss the first four games, which shouldn't
knock him from last year. But the other team they
got is Dallas. They got Ceede Lamb and George Pickens,
and you could you could argue, I mean, both those guys.
George Pickens was a number one in Pittsburgh. Both those
guys are number one receivers.

Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
But are we arguing, See here's where I get crafty.
Are we arguing who's a better receiver? Because if you
want to go, who's a better receiver, George Pickens or Jamo?
George Pickens that had more electric moments than Jamo. However,
George Pickens has been a head case. Like I've seen
consistent growth from Jameson Williams as a wide receiver from

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your one, which he didn't really play, but your one
to year two to year three to what I've seen
in training camp. I like the maturation of Jamo. I
like what I'm seeing. I trust what that looks like.
I know what Almar Ross, Saint Brown, Jamo and Jared
Golf are going to look like. I don't know what
Cede Lamb and George Pickens are going to look like.

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I don't know that they're boys. Now they're acting like
they like each other. Now, yeah, we're gonna turn up all.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
This is it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:39):
It's us, me and you. Then what happens the first
time you throw the ball when I thought I was open.

Speaker 7 (01:46:44):
Now we're arguing.

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
Oh, by the way, I don't like the quarterback nowhay.
So I'm not putting CD and George Pickens ahead of
what I've already seen out of A'mar Ross, Saint Brown,
and James.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
I don't disagree with that at all. I really don't.
I think ceed Lamb has shown some immaturity still even
at this stage of his career. And George Pickens wise, yeah,
if Mike Tomlin doesn't like him, there's a bit of
a bit of a problem, I think. And he only
had three touchdowns last year, number six. As you can see,
they've got the Rams, the rams of Davante Adams and

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Pookin the Cool. I love I love that matchup.

Speaker 5 (01:47:20):
Devonte Adams my favorite receiver in the last fifteen years.

Speaker 7 (01:47:24):
I love jamar Ches.

Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
I think he has a chance to be He's got
a chance to fall on that list of receivers and
that pantheon. Devonte Adams is still my favorite receiver watch though.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Uh and I think pookin the Cool is really well routed.

Speaker 7 (01:47:38):
Man's Man's man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Then they have Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle.

Speaker 7 (01:47:42):
Too temperamental, and Jalen Wattle tends to disappear.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Yep, he only had two receiving touchdowns last year. Okay, yeah,
so I don't know how you put them in there, Jacksonville,
this is a farce. Brian Thomas Junior and Travis Hunter.
That's an absolute joke.

Speaker 5 (01:47:57):
I mean, how do you have somebody listening eight and
you don't even know if receiver is gonna be his
primary spot. I think it's his spot. I think that
over dB. Just my fucks, how do you put the mate?

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
I have no idea he had two preseason catches. I
think it's a joke. I mean, when I read that,
I had a hard time bringing this article up to
you because I felt like I was embarrassed and I
didn't even write the damn thing.

Speaker 7 (01:48:22):
Nine should be seven.

Speaker 6 (01:48:24):
Uh, well, I'll scary. Terry got the new contract.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
Eight shouldn't be there, yea, and agreed to one hundred
percent because Terry mclaurin's a he's a dog man. That's
a good way. Okay, did that happen today?

Speaker 7 (01:48:36):
Three year extention?

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Okay, three year extension. Good for him and Deebo Samuel
and I knows he gets hurt, but I think when healthy,
he's a hell of a player. And then ten, they've
got Jackson Smith and Jibga and they've got Cooper Cup.
Not enough, it's made of Cooper Cup. I'm surprised that
Tampa is not in there. So I'm a big Mike
Evans fan. I think he's a hell of a player.

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And of course, when you got Mike Evans and Chris Godwin,
I think that's a hell of a combat.

Speaker 7 (01:49:02):
I think Tampa has better.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
I think Tampa as a whole wide receiver room is
better than every team listed right there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
Yeah, I would put Washington at seven, I'd put Seattle
at nine. I'd put Tampa at eight, I'd take Miami out.
I'd probably take Jacksonville out.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
Because the sleeper for Tampa, which I guess the sleeping
the Lions with the Lions away of they have Tessa,
the sleeper is a Mecca a Buka.

Speaker 7 (01:49:30):
Yes, so you got Chris Chris.

Speaker 5 (01:49:32):
Godwin a Mecca Booka and Mike Evans. Mike Evans been
disrespected his whole career, but it'll be fine later, you
know what I'm saying. He'll have the last laugh in
that regard. But that's a mean secondary. And then it's
also with Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 8 (01:49:47):
That's it if you want to take him through that
top five one one we got east Slide for the
top five tandems start with number five.

Speaker 6 (01:49:55):
We got oh.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Yeah we yeah, well we kind of did that already,
but yeah, that's fine. Lions at five. At four, both
Braylan and I disagree with, you know, the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
Talent for talent, talent for talent, they're better than their
They're probably they're probably better than everybody on the list.

Speaker 7 (01:50:17):
Talent for talent.

Speaker 5 (01:50:18):
Okay, now you're talking just pure talent, like on those
two's best.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Day, you would know that better than I would Dak.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Prescott, Yeah, because on his best day, George, Yeah, on
his on his best day, George Pickens is way better
than T Higgins.

Speaker 6 (01:50:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
And I got to take into account George, George Pickens
is trying to catch footballs from you know.

Speaker 5 (01:50:38):
Who, Start start naming Mason, Rudolph, can Pikett, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
That's not working, Justine. If they're your backups, that's one thing, okay,
But if they're not, that's that's a bit of a problem.
So Dallas is four, and as we mentioned, you know,
the top three almost interchangeable. But I do, I do
like them all. Cincinnati to me is to me number one.
That Cincinnatio too, and then of course they got Philly

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at number one. You know, it's it's a technical thing.
I don't think. I don't think Mike Evans has been disrespected.

Speaker 7 (01:51:09):
Does FL stand for fumble?

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Just what?

Speaker 7 (01:51:13):
Then there's f l on those the stats? Is it
then for fumble?

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Fumbless bumbles?

Speaker 5 (01:51:18):
Law?

Speaker 7 (01:51:18):
A lot of zeros up there, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
What it should have in there instead of fumbles?

Speaker 6 (01:51:24):
Waws?

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Did they used to put drops on there?

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
They do?

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
It's on the other it's further down, but on the
on the on the on the graph like this, you
don't want to put drops because you're talking about good
there is wide receiver, so you had drops to it.

Speaker 7 (01:51:39):
Kind of that's a good point. You can point why
did you drop?

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Because who's the best number two on all this entire
West the best number two.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
It's gotta be It's gotta be DeVante Smith because I
put it to you this way. Look at Vante Smith's
playoff numbers. Not not that you should sectionalize one thing
and then go from there. Look at the Vante's playoff numbers.
The boy eats big plays, they go to him, third
down conversions, plays in.

Speaker 7 (01:52:06):
The red zone. Great hands, like exceptional hands.

Speaker 5 (01:52:09):
I saw that at Alabama because when he first took
over for Jaylen Waddle, who was the one who was
actually the number one wide receiver, he was the one
coming back and was gonna win the blinding the cough
he gets hurt. Insert Davonte Smith. I'm like, he's actually nice.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Well here's the other thing. Everybody knows they're going through him.
Yeah in Alabama is what I'm saying. And he still
put up those types of numbers.

Speaker 7 (01:52:32):
I think. I think Davontae Smith.

Speaker 5 (01:52:34):
Yeah, he's proving it last year's playoffs, playoffs, the year
before that, the playoffs the year before that, during the
season when he's not hurt, like when when he's got
whatever he's got going on, because I love A. J. Brown,
but he goes through stuff. He's reading books on the sideline.

Speaker 7 (01:52:48):
He doesn't do that. You know who you can depend on,
got right down there, number six.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
So would you you would take You would take Davonte Smith.

Speaker 7 (01:52:57):
And Davante Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
And those would be well, they've got Davante Adams is
the one over.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
Pooka in that case, Pooka's in that case, Pooka Pooka.
In that case, Pooka's won. Davante's too. Oh you think
so I'm taking Pooka over Davonte Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
We saw Pooka with our own eyes down the street,
like right down the street. We saw him with our
own eyes. And then I think how he he had
that major year his first year, fourteen hundred yards and
you're like, oh man, it's just crazy. But you know,
things happened for rookie right right place, right time.

Speaker 7 (01:53:29):
What does he do? He backdoored it?

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Where's Jamison Williams fall among the twos. I'm on the
top ten, so the twos, just so I can give
it to you real quick, all right.

Speaker 7 (01:53:41):
Just you know what, and I'll just tell you yes
or no?

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
Cooper Cup Yes, okay, Cooper Cup is Samuel Yes, Yes, okay, okay, Yes,
Travis Hunter that's an insult, yes, Jaylen Waddle.

Speaker 7 (01:54:03):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
Pooka ends. So there's Pouga and then Jamison Williams.

Speaker 7 (01:54:10):
George Pickens, I like what James was at.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Okay, Jordan Addison.

Speaker 5 (01:54:17):
Jordan Addison, all right, t Higgins, T Higgins, and Devonte
Smith Deavonmith.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
Okay, so it's top five top five.

Speaker 5 (01:54:26):
I will say this though, that don't mean he can't
be one by halfway through the season. Hey, Like, this
does not mean he can't be one before halfway through this.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
I'm just saying, oh kool aid, oh, I got I
gotta stand up and walk around from.

Speaker 5 (01:54:39):
That does not mean it does not mean by week
nine that he can't be number one on us.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Everybody would love to see that. I'd love to hear
from the chat and finish things up for the mailbag.

Speaker 6 (01:54:49):
Go ahead, yeah, and you know what, Donte show man.
It's only fast show this one. It was a great one.

Speaker 8 (01:54:55):
I gotta just say the Chat family they smashed absolutely
satisfied that button today. If you didn't get the opportunity
to appreciate it and be a part of it, man,
because they they showed out today. But Dante one five
one with another super Chat says Tampa Bay's offense is
actually sneaky stacked against other offensive teams. People need to
keep an eye on Bucky Irving. He's Tampa's version of

(01:55:17):
Jamir Giz.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
He's right, He's absolutely right. I've said Tampa's the Tampa
to the n sleeper. They're the NFC sleeper. I love
their front seven, and I do love their offense, everybody
their back end of their offensive line. But I think
they're sneaky good.

Speaker 8 (01:55:32):
I feel like people give to the Packers what should
be given to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Just be me.

Speaker 5 (01:55:39):
I like that, that's fair, that's very well said.

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And I do have I do have some melbag questions
for you guys. People have been just kind of throwing
them into the chat throughout the show, and I tagged
a couple nice ones, but I want to make sure
that we get all of the superchats cleaned up first,

(01:56:28):
because there are a lot of super chats.

Speaker 6 (01:56:30):
Man shout out to you guys.

Speaker 8 (01:56:31):
Charles McClain says, with the five dollar superchat, he moved
into the number two top fan spot. Charles, he says,
if Meeks doesn't make this team, do Lions still signs
Zadaria Smith.

Speaker 6 (01:56:43):
Meeks and Smith both want to play with each other.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
I don't keep a guy just because he wants to
play with somebody. I keep a guy because he performs period,
and I think that dude has played really well in
the preseason. I think he's been really really good. I
just wouldn't take seven receivers. Somebody's not gonna make it
on my team. I take six, but not seven. I
don't care if they're related or not. With all due respect,

(01:57:10):
if Zadarius Smith says the only way I'm making I'm
signing with you is if you keep Jordan Meeks, then
I'll say, Okay, thanks a lot. Jordan Meeks has got
to earn it. If they think he's earned it, that's
a bonus. But I wouldn't take him just for the
sake that.

Speaker 5 (01:57:23):
It's a I understand the leverage thing, but he has none. Yeah,
Like that's a comment he made after eight Hudson signs
for you know whatever, he signs for thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:57:32):
Five a year.

Speaker 5 (01:57:32):
He said, Oh, by the way, my cousin is on
the practice squad. I'm only all right, you got it?

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
Yeah, in my contract, my sister's gonna sing.

Speaker 7 (01:57:40):
The unfortunately got it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:57:43):
I was looking at Tampa schedule. Yeah, I know we're
gonna get back to those. Yeah, Panthers win, Dolphins when
Panthers when Falcons they'll split.

Speaker 7 (01:57:54):
Split, they'll split fair.

Speaker 5 (01:57:56):
Saints win, Cardinals win, ram and lost, or are you
going to win? It's later in the year, it's November
between thirds. The Stafford shoulders should be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
His back should be good.

Speaker 7 (01:58:08):
To Bill, I mean, excuse me, back, Bill's lost. Patriots win.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
I think New England's going to be better than people playing.

Speaker 5 (01:58:16):
It's in Tampa and Tampa November nine, Saints, Lions, forty
nine ers.

Speaker 7 (01:58:25):
It's a good one. Good game. Seahawks win, it's a
good one too.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
But yeah, take them to win.

Speaker 5 (01:58:30):
Eagles lost, Jets win, Texans to be decided, flip Falcons
and Falcons. Yeah, I see, I see about He's not easy.

Speaker 7 (01:58:42):
I see eleven wins. You see eleven. I see eleven wins.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Eleven or twelve wins. Yeah, if they stay healthy, that's
always the precursor era. They're good period. I mean, it's
not because they play in a crap division, which they do.
They're good though. They're a good football team. Watch out
for them. My son and I were talking about this today.
He's like, Okay, so if you've got the Lions and
I do. People want to bet against him, go ahead,
they're gonna they're gonna shove it in your face. If

(01:59:08):
you feel like the Eagles, for sure, you feel like Tampa.
And then if you got the Rams or San Francisco
one of them. So who are the other two? Is
it Green Bay?

Speaker 7 (01:59:16):
Washington?

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
Is it Washington? Is it San Francisco? Is it Minnesota?
It's a really good debate right now. It's a really
fun conversation to figure that out. We're gonna do that
next week. Cool.

Speaker 8 (01:59:29):
Hey, and you know what, just just before we close up, officially,
Hendon Hooker has been released, per Mike Gara follow So
it's official that Hooker is no longer than I saw
the chat starting to say things like where do you
guys think he's gonna be? I don't even I feel
bad for him, but I see some of the people

(01:59:50):
in the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
I do too, But I look, it's not I don't
root against people. I root four others. He doesn't deserve
to be on this team because of how he performed.
I do hope he flatches somewhere. Dan Campbell said maybe
a change of scenery, which ought to tell you something.
He hasn't been good enough to warn a roster spot.
I can't imagine anybody picking him up, which means he

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could be back and be a.

Speaker 6 (02:00:13):
Practice squad guy.

Speaker 7 (02:00:14):
Right, yeah, okay, very fair.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
With all due respect to the guy, I I never want,
especially my team, to lose a third round pick this way.
I want him to.

Speaker 7 (02:00:24):
I want him to be.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Successful for crying out loud, but you've got to earn
it otherwise his sends a really bad message. The message
today is thank you for the chat, thanks for the
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