DETROIT LIONS ARE ELITE!!!! | The Braylon Edwards Show | September 23rd, 2025

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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, exactly what we said we needed to do. Play
complmver freaking football man when we needed most. Every face
kicked up the slide man. That's how you win games
against teams like that, man. And now you know what
the barometer is like on the AFC. It's a great win.
I got a couple of games, balloon here. You get
on a million, but I'm gonna give two. I canna

(01:18):
start on the offense, twelve carries one hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Win Man, it wouldn't be possible without y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Man win bro.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, all right, this thing says forty one total tackles.
It can't be right. Okay, two and a half sacks,
two quarterback hits, the two TFLs. Mister Muhammad, You.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
Know what, I wanted to thank every player, every coach,
everybody that's in his organization because about a year ago
I was home. I was on the couch. So you
get an opportunity, you make sure you take it. I
want to also thank the guys in my road for
helping me out this week. You know, without them, I
wouldn't been able to do what I do.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Great.

Speaker 7 (02:16):
Wait, you know what, I get a little I get
a little tired of the let's go stuff, but damn it,
let's freaking go.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Man.

Speaker 8 (02:28):
That was unbelievable. Welcome everybody like that hit out.

Speaker 9 (02:33):
You be authentic in the locker room. You asked me
about the Ben Johnson one. I second that with this.
This is authenticity and it's been that way since they
beat the Biking for his very first win in twenty
twenty one. E lec tricity. Before you start talking stuff,
the whole night. He's wearing Lions had Alliance T shirt on.

Speaker 8 (02:51):
Yesterday you did, I did so, Kelvin Johnson.

Speaker 9 (02:54):
So I don't want to any bs. I wanted you
guys win, to win for you.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I was wrong.

Speaker 8 (02:58):
Everybody's everybody's got that's.

Speaker 9 (03:00):
Got it on today.

Speaker 8 (03:01):
Look, Kenya, can you step up on there? Can you
step on so so people can see? It is incredible
the passion she has.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Look at that.

Speaker 8 (03:15):
Lions boots right there, sparkling lovingly, right.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I got let me see.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
Yeah, that is a beautiful thing right there. And the jersey.
Now wait, she's not done. Look at this very it's
like the price is right, she's it's so well done,
so well done, well done, appreciated.

Speaker 9 (03:43):
Just so people know the most reliable person at lady,
the young lady just walked up.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
I think she's got as much of a smile on
her face every day, like does I think so to
text it right, That's that's why so many people like
the The other thing is that she is not a
fair weather fan. I mean she wears that stuff on
a regular basis. So you've got your Lions gear on,
I do. I've got some Lions gear on kool Aid
heads Lions gearon. Ryan is wearing Lincoln Park concert shirt

(04:13):
World Tour. What the hell happen?

Speaker 10 (04:18):
I don't. I think the only Lions thing that I
own is a Calvin Johnson Hall of Fame T shirt.

Speaker 8 (04:23):
I think that's about and is it dirty?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Blew it?

Speaker 8 (04:26):
Yeah? Thank you? I blew it.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
I blew it.

Speaker 8 (04:28):
Yeah, you got there.

Speaker 9 (04:30):
I didn't.

Speaker 10 (04:31):
I didn't come with a squad, so I don't own
too much Lion.

Speaker 9 (04:33):
We got you guys. You know what my missing to you.
I will get you some Lions.

Speaker 8 (04:38):
I would say this, thank you. I've seen Ryan, he's
been working with us for a few weeks now. That's
the second time i've seen him more of that shirt.
I've never seen him wear the Lion's shirt, so it
can't be dirty unless he's working out in it or
something like that. It's a lame excuse. You failed today.
You gotta be better.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
To be fair.

Speaker 10 (04:55):
I saw Nick, the audio guy for the Heavyweights, he
wore a Lincoln Park shirt yesterday, and I was like, man,
I gotta wear I gotta wear one too, because he
went to the same content I went to. So I
was like, you know what, I'll wear it.

Speaker 9 (05:06):
To fairness to Ryan could award tomorrow?

Speaker 10 (05:11):
I could have yet?

Speaker 8 (05:13):
Is Nick on camera?

Speaker 10 (05:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (05:16):
Am I missing something?

Speaker 10 (05:17):
He's writing out in the same spot on it.

Speaker 8 (05:20):
Yeah, but he's not wearing He's not on this show,
is he?

Speaker 10 (05:22):
No, he's not.

Speaker 8 (05:22):
Okay, you know, I'll be better. Instead of looking at Nick,
you could have looked at kool Aid. Kool Aid's got
a Lion's hat on and Alliance T shirt.

Speaker 10 (05:30):
I don't think I own Alliance hat. I don't out
wear hats.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
I don't wear hats.

Speaker 9 (05:34):
We will get you covered.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Fo Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 10 (05:37):
I don't like to wear I.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
Think you should wear a hat.

Speaker 9 (05:42):
No, but I think you know all four of us
yesterday we picked the Ravens and ye, it's it's so
crazy though to me, we did everything kool Aid. No,
we took we took it.

Speaker 8 (05:55):
I took it.

Speaker 9 (05:56):
In fact, it was amazing because they got their ass.
But check this out. We did every thing in terms
of saying what the lions could do, what the Lions
would do where there were weaknesses, and it happened. We
did everything, but picked the lions.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
Well you did. We said what they what they have
to do. I didn't say that's what they will do,
I said, in order for them to win, I think
they need a turnover, I said, And basically, when you
stop a team on fourth and goal from the two,
and they did it three times, that was really impressive. Okay,
that to me is a turnover. And then of course

(06:27):
they got the fumble, so they had two turnovers. As
far as I was concerned, I said, they need to
use the middle of the field. They did, but I
didn't say they were going to, so I'm not going
to pat myself on the back for that. In that regard,
I was pleasantly surprised with how effective they were in
the run game. So Dan Campbell just gave out those
game balls. And it's not like either one of those

(06:49):
guys didn't deserve it, because they sure as hell did.
But I would have given out five more and probably seven.
I would have given them every ball to an offensive lineman,
and I would have given a ball to the two
tight ends because I thought they were excellent at blocking
and the wide receivers were great at blocking two. But
that's what I would have done, because I thought that
was as impressive as any display I've seen. You said,

(07:12):
Baltimore's defense wasn't all that great. And I don't disagree
with that against a Buffalo, but you know, and I
know Cleveland's not as good. You still gotta do it
on the road against a team that has championship division,
championship pedigree.

Speaker 9 (07:28):
Yeah, one of the hats off to everybody involved. It
starts with Johnny Moe's offensive coordinator and when he was
allowed to do the spaces that he put that team in.
You know, the big thing behind the run one, it's
an attitude play. The run is an attitude play. I'm
a lineup running the ball. Hey you I'm coming here,
we come. What they did smart last well last night
was they went inside zone. Thirty of the thirty five

(07:49):
runs were inside zone. So what you get is you
get the double team, and you allow David Montgomery or
Jimier Gibbs to pick zones. Once they decided it was
going to be Dave Montgomery in the second half, you
get the double team. In Ngomery is a physical running back,
and he started posing his will, and the offensive line
started and posing their will, and Johnny mo showed you
and he shows you no. No, they brought me back
for a reason. There was a reason why Jared Goff

(08:10):
signed off on me coming back and becoming the OLC.
They've had these plays much like I know you got
a long list of plays that you want to go over,
but they've had these plays in the playbook for the
last couple of years. Like the trick played for a touchdown,
It's been there two three years. Johnny Moe was here
when it was an originally put in and now he
brought it back. So physicality upfront, that's how it starts.
They controlled the line of scrimmage and they took advantage

(08:32):
of the middle of the.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
Field under the hood stuff. Braylan and I talk quite
a bit, especially when it comes to football, and he
was telling me when it comes to those trick plays,
and we'll call them trick plays, Braylan's like, just keep
in mind what they do outside of those flashy plays
is what sets up those flashy plays. They are not

(08:56):
here's Aman Ross Saint Brown flipping it to Jamiir Gibbs.
They are not let me throw it to David Montgomery,
he throws it back to golf and he goes downfield.
That's not their identity shop. Their identity is all the
other plays that they do. So very well to set
up once in a while those types of plays.

Speaker 9 (09:13):
Yeah, you see teams like Baltimore last night, Baltimore tried
a couple of trick players. It's just not who they are.
When you get side to ten yard line, like I
would think, you give the ball number twenty two, or
you find ways to get Lamar Zackson on the outside.
But here comes a trick truck. Why why is Dereck
Henry throwing a touchdown pass? Saying in man covers man
and man covers, it behooves me. But the Lions are
that when you watch the Lions over the last five years,

(09:33):
like what do they do in the red zone. They
can run the ball, as you've seen with Dave Montgomery,
You've seen with Jamal Williams, as you've seen with Jamier Gives.
They run the ball in the red zone. They also
passed the ball efficiently. Well. You saw that two years
ago with Samon the Porter. You see that last three
years with Alma Ras Saint Brown. He catches a lot
of touchdowns in that twelve yard to ten yard range.
They do that well. So when you do trick plays,

(09:54):
they're not really trick plays. For the Detroit Lions. These
are just also plays that they happen to run the
red zone, and they run at an efficient clip. They
didn't get a chance to get to it in game one,
but in game two and in game three, you're seeing
that this is very much still The Lions are a
high powered offense. They gave the Ravens all they wanted.

Speaker 8 (10:11):
Show of hands and be honest, fourth and two, not quite.
At midfield, fourth quarter, you're up seven, Baltimore has all
three timeouts, not much time remaining. Dan Campbell goes for it.
Everybody agree, No, I did not.

Speaker 9 (10:27):
No, I did not.

Speaker 8 (10:29):
I did not agree with it.

Speaker 9 (10:30):
I speak first. I did not agree with it from
this standpoint. Hear me out, because I'm about to get
some love too, so before you, oh my god, relax,
I didn't agree from the standpoint how well your defense
played last night. That defense played fuh phenomenon. We'll get
into that side of the ball because I want to.
We're gonna take our time giving them kudos. But your

(10:51):
defense played excellent. You play lights out to pin them
down there. You're not pinning down Lamar Jackson. You're pinning
down the team. You've been beating the hell out of
all night. The quarterback you been beating the hell out
of at least in the run game all.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
Night, the team knowing that they're going to have to pass.

Speaker 9 (11:05):
Knowing that they're going to have to pass. So I
would have I wouldn't have had a problem punting it
and allowing my defense to get the win. But what
I do like about it, now here's a good side.
Dan Campbell is who he is. Dan Campbell is who
he is. We said, there's only been two times with
Dan Campbell's second guess, and so he's getting back to
that bag where he is himself him going forward. Not
only was it who he is, what he's been since

(11:26):
he's been here, it's also old to two years ago.
It was personal, like that game was personal as much
as we make it. No, it's just the next game.
It's on the schedule. They want to beat the Ravens
and then move on to the bron No, he remembers
thirty eight to six two years ago.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
Sure, he does. I like it, and I think his
team did too. And I love that just like they
do love it.

Speaker 9 (11:44):
I love it because he got it.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
Absolutely we do. But you love it because he got it,
and I get white people say that's who he is.
Let's not get twisted. He doesn't go forward every time
on fourth down and two, Okay, he feels, he goes
what he feels. It's a feel thing, all right. I
didn't agree with it, but I loved the explanation. I
thought Troy A. Eapmunn was fantastic last night. I thought

(12:09):
it was excellent. And when he says, look, the reason
aman Ross Saint Brown can get away with that release
off the line of scrimmage is because every person in
a Baltimore uniform knows he's a blocker. So when he
starts to block and they engage and then he releases,
there's not as you know they're there. They're still thinking, hey,

(12:31):
this is a guy who is willing to block, and
then boom, there he goes. And then the same thing
on the pitch. The reason they handed the ball off
to aman Ross Saint Brown pineapple like side up right
was so he had it and could flip it easier.
I thought it was brilliant. It was a really I
don't know if his producer told him. I doubt it.

(12:51):
I think he just picked it out. But I thought
I thought he was excellent. I didn't agree with it
because of what you said somebody said to me earlier
today you know isn't, but also couldn't you look at
it like it's confidence in your defense if you don't
get it there. And my immediate reaction was, I suppose,
but you're giving Lamar Jackson roughly forty eight yards to
reach peydrt. That scared the hell out of me. Now

(13:14):
we all loved it because he got it and it
was an unbelievable throw. Just I saw three throws last night,
one from Lamar Jackson to Mark Andrews who was covered
by Alex Anzeloni, and it was really good coverage, really
good coverage, but it was a perfect throw and a
great catch. And then two throws by Jared Goff, one
on a touchdown and the other on that fourth down completion.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
And I want to understand, I want to get back
to Jared Goff. I want to say something about that
fourth and two, saying brown the fourth and two that
is also because of how well David Montgomery and that
offensive line played like that plays into it too, how
well they play, how well they ran the ball. Everyone
in that stadium knew they were gonna run a ball
because they've been running the ball all damn night and

(13:54):
they've been having success all night, doing it all night long,
and Richie so one hundred percent. So there you go,
right there. So I think that helped to it too,
them being able to have that success like that. But
I'm around Saint Brown as a football player. I gotta
go back to the full name. You know, I was
trying to do the same Brown thing. It's just not
who I am. Blame University of Michigan. I'm around Saint

(14:15):
Brown is the best football player that plays wide receiver
in the NFL. Hear me out when I say that
he's not the best wide receiver. I still would contend
that belongs to somebody in Cincinnati and may be arguable
in Minnesota. But he is the best football player that
plays the wide receiver position. The reason why they do
these pineapple handoffs or these throws to Jared Golf, or

(14:38):
these handoffs to Amara, or these direct snaps to i'marra
or throwing him the ball in the clutch whenever you
are in trouble, it's a damn good football player. He
understands the game, He understands the blocking assignments, he understands
the concepts. He knows where to be and he knows
what to do. And also he's going to give you
that extra effort like a Dave Montgomery. He's a football player.

Speaker 8 (14:58):
Dudy also welcomes it.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
He wants all the eight blocks, Eve blocks, wants all
the smoke. He does it all. He can run by
you now, he's gotten faster. He's elite football player. Like
a lot of times.

Speaker 8 (15:11):
We have a lot of those guys. True, That's what
I love about this team. Like no one's going, all right,
my fantasy league, I'm in the third round. I'm taking
Brock Right, he got blew up once. Yeah, but you
know what, he blew them up a couple of times.
These guys all are willing. The unselfishness on the part
of this team at just about every single position is

(15:34):
so heartwarming for me.

Speaker 9 (15:36):
When you talk about the top five receivers in the league,
When you talk about the five, what are you talking about,
Like when you think receiver, we're talking you're talking stats.
Jamar Chase, he's a triple crown. That's justin Jefferson. Well,
he's done this. He's the first wide receiver and do
this in five years. I mean legitimately in six years,
Justin's already ten thousand. When you talk about A. J. Brown, Oh,
the big moments and clutch in the Super.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Bowl, and he can.

Speaker 9 (15:56):
He's a pretty good blocker down he is, but he
also sits on, sits on a bench to read a book.
He also brings a lot of distraction to the team.
He also disappears at times. He also taps out of games.
Like you don't say that about fourteen fourteen. You say
everything including great route runner, great hands, makes the big play,
great team, great teammate, everything attached to Almon ROSSELLI. Brown

(16:19):
is great in his first five So.

Speaker 8 (16:23):
I do wonder if it changes the national narrative we
all think highly of him. Woodwards Sports put something out
on Twitter last night that I took exception to. They
put the best Detroit skill players against all time against Baltimore's.
And for Detroit they had I'm on Roussel and Brown,
Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, Matthews, Matthew Stafford, and they put

(16:45):
in Golden Tate and I was like, Herman Moore, thank
you very much. And then they had Baltimore. So I'm thinking,
holy cow, you know, Detroit's all the time. That's not
how you play it. The point is what he does.
And Dan Campbell said he said it so well after
the game. Our best players are our best practice players.

(17:10):
That is called the ultimate leadership. I believe when you've
got a'man Ross Saint Brown out there busting his ass
on a regular basis, there is no possible way that
Isaac Tesla can sit there and go not today, right.
I mean, that's that's what leadership is.

Speaker 11 (17:28):
Would you agree kind of what we read between the
lines as it related to one mister Tim Patrick, no
matter how much we you know, supported him and probably
wanted to see him make a way here, when he
made those comments about.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Even the physicality in practice and the workload and things
of that nature.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
Well he just said he had to get used to it.
I don't want to put too much on Tim Patrick.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
And we've heard other.

Speaker 11 (17:47):
Other players in the past talk about that physicality. And
one of those guys also was in here.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Right now too, and it was it is interesting to
me when you put it in those tis.

Speaker 9 (17:57):
And the teams I played on, the players that are elite,
the players that are in the Hall of Fame now,
the players that were that deal all pro the whole
nine yards. The thing that they have in common, those
jokers love to practice. Those jokers love to practice.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
They love.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
Whether you're talking about Earl Thomas cam Chancellor, whether you're
talking about Richard Sherman, he was annoying as hell. Richard
loved to practice. You're talking about Darrel Reeves, you're talking
about Nick Mango, you talk about the Rickershaw Ferguson, talk
about Dave Harris, shot of the University of Michigan. When
I play these guys love to Frank Gore.

Speaker 8 (18:26):
And that's not an easy thing to do when you
can play it a long time. Number one and number
two at the end of the week, after you've come
off a physical matchup like Detroit had last night, and
to their credit, Man, they were the bully in the ring.

Speaker 9 (18:40):
I've never seen that before. In terms of obviously talking
about what the record is now, the records change. It
didn't go to twenty five, it's still at twenty four,
twenty four and three. I've never seen the Ravens look
like that. I'm talking about all time. I'm talking all time.
I played against them four and a half years, twice
a year. I'm talking about watching them when they were
the two thousand team. I'm talking watching them since I
retired when they won in thirteen. Never have I seen

(19:03):
a team going there and fluster them, confused them, punished them,
bully them like they punked them. They punked them. To
see Derek Henry crash out on the sideline like that.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
Yeah, we'll get to that because I know they got pumped.
You're chomping at the bit for that. No, no, no,
I will say this when when I say when not
of us, say the Baltimore Ravens. What is it you
think of I mean, please, don't give me a player,
just give me the style of physicality, without advisors, without
a doubt, crazy spaceman's tackles like yesterday was.

Speaker 9 (19:41):
I don't even want to bring this team up. There
was a national championship in twenty fourteen with Alabama and
another team, Alabama with the Bullies. Alabama had bullied everybody,
had been bullying everybody for five six years. You know
how Alabama lost that game because when they hit that
team in the mouth, that team hit them back, Then
that team hit them back again, and then that team
hit them back again, until the point where Alabama said, damn,

(20:02):
I didn't know this what the fight was gonna be.
I didn't know this team was like, that's what happened
last night. Because the Ravens responded, The Ravens tied it up,
The Ravens started lead, took the league started to look
like this is where Terns. But then what happened? Lion said, no, no, no,
not so fast. Hit him in them off again. Then
you hit him in them off again, and then it's like,
whoa wait, we can't do the typical Baltimore Ravens deal.

(20:22):
The Lamar Jackson just getting out and scrambling. How many
times did you see him almost make that Lamar Jackson play?
But here comes Derek Barnes, Here comes Brian Branch, Here
comes Kirby Joseph. Here comes Jack Campbell. Told you Jack
Campbell is gonna have a game.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
Yeah yeah, And Derek Barnes played really well. Al Kadi Muhammad,
I mean you can't really find outside of Terry On Arnold,
you can't find a guy who struggled. No, I'm serious struggle. Look,
here's the thing we have to remember, especially in football,
the other team's gonna make plays, okay, just like in baseball,
the other team's gonna get home runs. The other team's

(20:55):
gonna make some outs. Okay that in basketball, they're gonna
make some shots. Okay, you're not holding a team scoreless.
You're not holding Baltimore off the board. They're going to
make place. I don't have a problem with that. Yeh,
I understand it. You've got to match that. And Detroit
did a great job. What did we say yesterday? I
was said, the best defense is going to be Detroit's offense.

(21:16):
They had a drive of ten minutes and thirty eight
seconds that went ninety eight yards, and they had another
one that was a little bit more than three minutes,
but it was quick because the big Montgomery run. The
point is they were more physical than Baltimore. And there's
a misconception outside of our area about the Lions, and
that is Gibbs Montgomery. We love the Sonica Knuckles, Saint Brown, Williams,

(21:44):
Laporta goff and we forget, or they forget. I should
say that Detroit butters its bread with the big fat
guys up front. Those are the guys who are the
heartbeat of this team. We can talk about this positions all.
We want those guys up front. They are the heart
and soul of this team, and it was awesome to

(22:06):
watch them punch Baltimore repeatedly over like Tommy Hearns and
marvelous Marvin Hagler in the center of the ring is
what it looked like to start.

Speaker 9 (22:16):
Yeah, you watch that game. You're absolutely correct. We say,
we come up here and we talk about touchdowns and
yards and stats and plays, and that made those plays.
But it's the guys up front, you know. It's those
five guys that we came up here two weeks ago
after they got routed in Green Bay, and we talked
about how bad they were. We talked about maybe even Ragnow,
not excuse me, not rag Now, but Glasgow his replacement,
maybe not even being at the right position. Tate Rallis.

(22:38):
We still believed in them, but how long is the
rookie process gonna take?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
You know?

Speaker 9 (22:42):
This is what we've said up here, and it was
valid questions, and they answered it. Last week they got
a lot better. Oh well, they were at home. Let's
see when you get a real test, you want to
go on the road. It's Baltimore to be loud. It's
a night game.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
We didn't freak out, but we didn't freak out.

Speaker 9 (22:54):
It justified ask some questions when you watch the physicality
on which they played with last night in the ease,
when you see take Raleys smiling at Panay Suel after
plays because he's figured it out, because he's figured out
that this is going to be a good night. When
you see Glasgow and uh and Ratleys just go overgoing communication,
pointing things out as it walked to the side, and
like you're watching these guys grow and develop. Right before

(23:15):
that they were physical.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
When you see they will reach the second level and
then take off and he goes like this. I mean,
Penney Sewell was eight yards down field.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
It was.

Speaker 8 (23:28):
It was awesome to watch.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
I don't want to call I don't want to call
him my dog out. I don't want to call him
my dog out because he's been playing so good this season.
My boy Jamo Jamo missed the block by just a
little bit. It would have been another seventy yards run
for Demo.

Speaker 8 (23:42):
Okay, Well, I would say this about about Jamison Williams.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Don't let his brother post the stories.

Speaker 8 (23:49):
No, I wasn't gonna go there. We can, but I
wish people who don't play the game would would stop
doing that. Stuff, but Braylan said early on he wanted
to see the lights, take a shot, get Jamison Williams
involved early and I'll be damned if that'sn't exactly what
they did.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
It was.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
I watched it. I was smiling. I was texting brayleanth
it never texted me back. I'm just kidding. That is
a lot. I texted, and I'm like, dude, right on
the flipping money.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
It was.

Speaker 8 (24:20):
I was smiling, ear to ear the whole lie. Listen.
My daughter's twenty one. She didn't really watch football. She
goes to Michigan State games, but she and her friends
it's more about pregame and all that stuff. She texted
me in the middle of the third quarter and she's like, Dad,
are you watching this football game? And I text her back,
do you know who your father is? And she's like, yes,
stupid question. Is this an awesome game? She and her

(24:41):
entire apartment We're watching the Lions going crazy.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
It was so cool, so cool.

Speaker 9 (24:46):
You get that first drive and you get those two
plays and it looks like he's going to have a
big night. But when it did, it took Kyle Helmetson
out of the box. Kyle helmetson' you know, for those
in Detroit, Di Dolan call the best safety ever, I
mean in the league. That's fine. He's one of the
best saves in the league. Number one, best safety in
the league in terms of doing everything you said. I mean,
I just like to stoke the fans.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
I ain't even saying that.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
Jesus Christ. Kyle Hamilton's the guy that you want to
get out of here.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
You're right, you know you don't stoking the fans. You're
You're correct. Most NFL personnel agree with it.

Speaker 12 (25:14):
If they if he took off his leade, yeah, it's cool.
You can't take that for every one. You keep him
out of the box.

Speaker 9 (25:20):
You got him playing deep nine manes, softening up the
run a little bit too, and solting the things that
you could do. You talked about Jamo getting him going.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
They did that earlier.

Speaker 9 (25:28):
Shout out to me for saying that. But what it
did too is softened up that zone. And when they
got to the thirty, when they got to the forty,
here comes Sam Report, Samlo Porter. There he is, there's
Sam Report. He had a big game, but he was
really good. One third down, the catch on Rowan smid.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Yeah, because that was a hell of a catch.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
Rokwan's right there, he made a good move. Is a
dop by number sixteen. Gotta give him credit for that dot.
But it's a hell of a catch. But it started
early with Jamo. They were looking for Jamo to go deep.
Every time he was in there. They used him as
a decoy. Last night, in the second, you know, the
last three quarters of the game, they use them as
a decoy. And when you have decoys like that, they
they're glad. They do their job, they take purposes.

Speaker 8 (26:07):
What I really, what I thoroughly enjoyed is it seemed
like Detroit got stronger as the game went on and
Baltimore got weaker.

Speaker 10 (26:17):
Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 8 (26:17):
Now that seems odd to say about Baltimore. And I'm
sure you know, missing a couple of key pieces affected them.
And maybe some people will do the same thing they
did two years ago against Kansas City. Well, Kansas City
is playing about this guy and this guy.

Speaker 9 (26:31):
Let's not play that game. I'm with you, s because
we can easily say a Lee McNeil.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
That's that's what I'm about time.

Speaker 9 (26:37):
I don't want to come here and play that game.

Speaker 8 (26:38):
Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. I could
have said the same thing about Kansas City and some
of the guys Detroit was missing two years ago. We
convenely forget it. What I was really impressed with is
just how Detroit You know, lineman, they love to run
block and when they got in that, it's almost like
a shooter in basketball. They got in a groove and

(26:59):
they just pushing and kept pushing and kept pushing, and
it was awesome because it looked like they were never
getting tired.

Speaker 9 (27:06):
Yeah, when you when you are, when you have that
groove of going against guy and you feel like you're
winning consistently, it's all about wins, like each play is
a win. And for offensive lineman, each play they're gonna
have to engage in the defensive lineman, each play is
a win or it's a loss. When you start tracking
them up, Boom, I won that play. I won that play. Ooh,
I felt ra excuse me, I keep saying rag Now

(27:28):
I felt Glasgow. I went on that play. Oh, I know,
I know Pen's winning. Here's another win. I'm getting stronger.
I'm getting stronger. And if you keep taking losses, if
you keep getting pushed back, now you don't have that
same intensity. Now you're not going with that same combination.
All right, Now, I'm getting tired. And that's what's happened.
They won play after play after play after play after
play in a row. You win nine players in a row,
it's over. Like your defeatist attitude is what's set in

(27:51):
for that defense. And they it's try as they may,
they just weren't on the same page. I mean, it's
the same speed that the lines are playing with.

Speaker 8 (27:58):
That, and then of course, giving golf all kinds of time,
He'll beat you every time. He'll beat you every time.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
But this is he a number one quarterback in the league.
If you give him time, curious, Well, the numbers would.

Speaker 8 (28:10):
Say, it's a really good question. If are we giving
everybody time? I would probably say no, But I'm glad
he's wearing Honolulu blue and silver.

Speaker 11 (28:20):
Now I'm glad to Okay, all right, And I just
wanted to say, going back to something that Braylan talked
about that he you know, you guys disagree with the
fourth down call, and to me too, I'm more of
a traditionalist, but I've grown accustomed to what Dan Campbell does,
and to me, it just seemed more as if he
just had them so figured out. It was almost as
if we're keeping our foot on the pedal to the

(28:42):
metal the entire way from the start to the finish.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
And that, to me is more of what it symbolized.
And obviously, when it works, we're.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
All for it.

Speaker 11 (28:51):
And last night was one of those ones against the
Ravens where I'm glad it all worked out for the good.

Speaker 9 (28:56):
I would just say this because I would say this
because although that I like I was a sheep, I
agree that I wouldn't have done it like this is
the same what I wouldn't do. I wouldn't have gone
for the fourth and two. I would have kicked the punt.
I would have let the defense doesn't That's what I
would have done. I don't mind what Dan Campbell did.
I'm not mad at it. Even if they didn't get it.

(29:17):
I would have been mad, you know why, because he
did it with such conf level There was there was
the same feeling on every fourth down, on every decision.
Everything all night was like, Nah, we're good, this is
what we're gonna do. Nah, Nah, we're good. Everybody's settling now.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Jared, you got it.

Speaker 9 (29:31):
You figure it like that's what. Even on that play,
the feeling was, now, this is this is cool, this
is I wouldn't have done it. But it didn't feel
if that makes sense, I was If I'm the coach,
I'm not doing it. However, I don't mind that Dan
Campbell did it. It felt it felt natural.

Speaker 11 (29:46):
We were sitting here at the watch party shout out
to it with sports and the watch party crew, and
we were all like, yo, you guys know he's going
for this, Like we all knew it was going to
be even a past that's how kind of brazen or
ballsy or whatever you want to call it, I believe.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
And then we know Dan Campbell be and I I
appreciate your your comments on that.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
Man.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
What if he takes appreciation.

Speaker 9 (30:05):
What if they punt and Lamar Jackson goes on and
scores and they tied up, what's the conversation about, Oh,
he should have went for you know, that's what they do,
like you damned if you do, you damned if you
That's right. At least yesterday, it felt authentically like itself.
It wasn't like he was like, well, you know what.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 8 (30:24):
He wasn't half hearted about it as long as people
accept that they're not always going to get there, like
he didn't go for it on fourth and five earlier. Okay,
so when people go, well, that's who Dan Campbell is,
what do you mean? It's not like he goes forward
every single time. So there are certain moments and you
have a feeling, like kool Aid said earlier, there's a feeling.
I just find it. It's it's it's sort of like

(30:45):
the National shows this morning. It threw up in my mind,
threw up in my mouth.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
I hear, I hear.

Speaker 8 (30:54):
Just understand, this is Dan Campbell's team. Everybody questioned, where
was Benjon?

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (30:59):
Shut the hell Okay, shut the hell up.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Man.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
You were saying the same damn thing for not just
this week, You've been saying it for three weeks and
in the off season, because you got to fill a
lot of programming. If you want the real deal, you
connect with people who are here. What did we say
on this show? And I'm not saying me, I'm saying
collectively before the season started. This is called first guessing,

(31:23):
not second guessing. The easiest thing to do is sit
back in a chair and go you know what, I
wouldn't have done that. Why didn't you tell me that before? Well,
what we said about Dan Campbell is that it's his offense.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
You said that.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
What we said is John Morton will pick up right
where Ben Johnson left off. What Jared Goff said was
this team offensively is better than it's ever been. And
what we said is we worry about Frank Ragnow being
lost and Kevin Zeitler being lost more so than the
two coordinators. Now we've got national guys going. You know,
we just got to accept this is who Dan Campbell is.

(31:56):
It's Dan Campbell's team. We should have no kidding. Man,
We've been saying that forever.

Speaker 12 (32:01):
Wake up, dude, talk to him. Shep, Holy mother of God,
it was what I was so pissed this morning.

Speaker 8 (32:09):
And I shouldn't be I should be happy, But I
was so pissed this morning that I'm hearing all these
national people say this. You know, gee, you just figured
it out and the words of Bob Seeger in Life
bullet in Detroit. Should I know that for ten years.

Speaker 9 (32:21):
I saved myself from this same very angst and temper
from watching the national news. I didn't watch them to
day because you're a smarter man than I just knew
it would be two things. I knew you'd be tuned.
The one thing is they would completely chain ship. They
would completely say, oh, well, this Lion's team, and you
know it was all about Dan. I knew it would
be that. And the other thing would be, well, you

(32:43):
also got to realize Kyle van Noy and Manabeekway did
not play, so the Lions didn't technically beat the full
strength of my BS. I don't care if those two
guys plays. Look at what that team was. That team
is fractured. Now, if you got Marlon Humphreys doing podcasts
like he's got a bag over, is he trying to
figure out? I don't. I've never felt like this. After Love,

(33:03):
you got Derrick Henry, who's about to be seventh thought
time rushing crashing out on the sideline like John Harbaugh.
He looked like he saw ghosts at the post Cotton,
I mean at the press conference, at the podium, he
like saw ghost That has nothing to do with those
two guys. Yes, would they have been a better team
with them, because they're damn good players, But that ass
whooping was coming whether they were playing or not, Like it.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Was he looked.

Speaker 8 (33:26):
He looked stunned on the bench. He did after he
fumbled third fumble in as many games this year. He's
not like he's a fumbling machine. Okay, this doesn't happen,
but it's happened twice this season in the fourth quarter.
It's happened once in each game. There he is there,
he is just stunned. What the hell? Yeah, I loved it, Yeah,
I loved it.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
We do got a little bit of breaking news as well.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
Oh, let's hear it.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
He might be on his bench for a while.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
It might be for a while.

Speaker 10 (33:54):
It seems to be in his head a lot that far.

Speaker 9 (33:57):
I didn't like how he was, like he was trying
to put everybody on the side, like anybody that was
in passing, anybody else close enough, he'll pull him close
to him and tell him, white fumble. Like he talked
to six people. They kept showing him on the sideline.
And finally you see DeAndre Hopkins, who's a vet og
who can say this, butut he can say it. He
was like, man, damn, shut up. He knocked the ball.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
You fumbled.

Speaker 9 (34:17):
It's okay, let's get back in the game. Like dar,
hear you know what it is all the great stuff.
He's a head case.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
It is.

Speaker 8 (34:26):
It's the guy who makes a who misses a shot
on the golf course and that wants to explain it
to you when you're on the other side of the
fair away and he's coming up with some time. Well,
I sculled it. Yeah, I know. Let me just concentrate
on shot, Just move move on, or you're gonna say
breaking news.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Just two bits of robot umpires for replays.

Speaker 8 (34:45):
I'm sorry I missed that one more time.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
The MLB did approve what robot umpires for replays.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
Okay, and for the rest of the year or next year.

Speaker 11 (34:55):
Six and then the Texans release our old friends CJ.
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I see our group.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
Remember he got in that shouting match with Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 9 (35:13):
Rying was on the roll as soon as he left
the Eagles, and the Eagles and the fan base got
into it. Soon as you left Detroit, hen Detroit and
the fan base and Detroit got into it. Like it's
become a consistent matter.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
It's like AB.

Speaker 9 (35:24):
Not as bad as AB, but everywhere ab went, he
left a stinky trail behind it, and that trail just
followed one person. That's the same thing with Guard and Johnson.
You're like, is it the Lions, is it the Stealers?

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Is it the Eagles?

Speaker 9 (35:37):
Is it Texas?

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Or sir is it you?

Speaker 8 (35:39):
Well? Here, here's the other thing. You burn bridges. It's
not wise to burn bridges.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
Like that because when you try to get in coaching
like that's that type of stuff.

Speaker 8 (35:49):
Or if you get cut and somebody needs a corner. True, Okay,
I mean I'm.

Speaker 9 (35:53):
Looking further down that line.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
Yeah, you're looking further fur Yeah, hey, coach broy.

Speaker 9 (35:59):
Well, you know I might have burned a bridge it
too in my day. I'm joking, of course.

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Speaker 4 (40:44):
Listen?

Speaker 9 (40:45):
Listen, sheep we're not hating on dere hearing. Let me
rephrase it like this. Let me set the scene like this.
First of all, it's hilarious, Like how you didn't laugh
at that is hilarious. He tried to slam his helmet
down on the little helmet holds, slammed it in any
low key, almost broke rode his ankle. Yeah he was Yeah, okay,
So imagine Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson. The list

(41:09):
goes on, Walter Payton, Curtis Martin for Jerome.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
Battist, Marshall Falkles.

Speaker 9 (41:14):
Marshall fawk Edrin, James, Earl Campbell. Yeah, my favorite, that's
my dad's favorite.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Two.

Speaker 9 (41:19):
My dad comment was Hein or Earl Campbell. So shout
out to pops. Imagine them in year ten doing this
foodsness like you're ten. You fumbled hear me out.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
No, I'm just saying that sounds like something I would
say in today's younger athletes like yourself, You would roll
your eyes.

Speaker 9 (41:35):
But I happen to now be one of the older
indivisions in the community having this conversation. I'm talking about
Eric Dickerson. Shoot, I was barely born when he was playing.
But I'm just saying, like this is your ten. I'm
not talking about a guy in year four, year three,
even hell, you're five, like doing somebody, bro, you fumbled,
it's a part of the game. And you keep fumbling
like you slamming your helmet and falling and sitting on

(41:57):
the bench and talking to everybody on the sideline. Say, man,
you're so happy, just like you said. It's like to
get on the golf course, like, shoot, I drop passes.
I'll go find everybody on the field. Hey man, look
I almost caught that pass. What happened was she doesn't
one pinky finger that I have hit this pinky fingers,
so I wantn't able to close my hand on the ball, bruh.
Like I just have never seen someone who is that
good be in that space and just crash out like that.

(42:19):
And maybe it's a new thing, but I ain't seen
Barry do that. I see Imma do that.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
No.

Speaker 8 (42:24):
I mean, look, I try my best to to understand
that people are different, they handle situations differently. Okay, you're
you're much calmer about the morning show stuff than I was. Okay,
doesn't make one of us right or wrong.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
But if.

Speaker 8 (42:40):
I try to look at both sides of it. If
he doesn't show any emotion, people are like, do you care?
Why don't you care, because it's frustrating me that you fumble.
If he does show emotion, people are like, dude, you
gotta be more professional. It's it's the old adage when
Matthew Stafford was the quarterback here. If he goes running
down like Brett Faarr, takes his helmet off, jumps into
somebody's arms after throwing a touchdown pass, everyone's like, act

(43:03):
like you've been there before. If he just throws the
TV and goes to the sideline like Peyton Manning did,
everybody's like, why don't you care?

Speaker 9 (43:11):
There's one thing, and I agree with you, you're absolutely correct,
But there's one thing that's so emotion there's one thing
that look like a flat out baby. And then complaining
the rest of the game, in which he never came.
I think he came back at the end of the
last garbage touchdown the score which wasn't garbage, but it
was the touchdown he came in on the ten yard line.
He spent the next fifteen to twenty minutes game time,
not how much time, how many long you've been watching

(43:33):
the game. He didn't spit it in the game. Like,
that's what I'm talking about. You show emotion. Look, you
fumbled the ball. You come off sounding all right, gotta
get this together. Then you sit your ass on the bench,
and then you talk to your coach. Then you talk
to the other running backs. Then you said with Lamar Jackson.
Then you guys figure out how you go back in
the game. You don't proceed to spend the majority of
the rest of the game complaining about the fumble that

(43:55):
you had, which was caused by the fumble that you
had against Cleveland, which was caused by to fumble that
you had against Buffalo, Right, Like, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (44:03):
The longest stretch in his career where he's fumbled as
frequently as he had. Last year he had three hundred
and twenty five carries and three fumbles. This year he
has forty one carries and three fumbles.

Speaker 9 (44:16):
Derrick Henley musink it gets in his head. I think it.
I don't think it does. I think it is like
currently it is. So Look, I'm not coming at them sideways,
like I said, I was a wide receiver. I went
through a bad round of the drops in two thousand
and eight beginning season maybe two, about a week seven
or so, and then eventually got out of it. So
I'm not knocking him for that. Like that happens, like
you're gonna fumble some pass I mean some balls, You're

(44:37):
gonna drop some passes. You're gonna do something stupid. I
don't like that. The fact you're a leader. We brought
you in to be a leader to help us win
the super Bowl, like he's been the AFC Championship with Tennessee.
So is lamar, it's time to win the super Bowl.
When you act like that on the sideline and don't
give your team the best. If I'm a young guy
looking at that, if I'm Jay Flowers, Jay Flowers already
an individual that were like sometimes you gotta corral him

(44:58):
back into the fold, Flyer was looking at that.

Speaker 8 (45:02):
Yeah, it's an excellent point because both these teams, and
that's what I think was most entertaining I. At one
point during the game, I tried to think to myself,
what if I wasn't a fan of the Alliance, and
what if somebody wasn't a fan of Baltimore. The interested
parties who just love football were watching that game last
night and saying, no one on to sell of a
football game.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Man.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
You could tell by the broadcast like Troy Aikman was
enamored with everything that was going on. I pictured him
during break saying to Joe Buck, I wish I was
the quarterback of this Lion's offense. Tom Brady said it
out loud last year. He people recall, but remember when
Troy Aikman when they went for it on fourth and
two and Goff finds Saint Brown. If you listen to

(45:44):
the broadcast, what's aateman? Oh? Okay? And then on the
flip at the boat at the goal line with Saint
Brown to Gibbs, he's I mean, he is giddy. It's
like it's Christmas Day and he's opening up his first
present as a five year old.

Speaker 9 (45:57):
It's unbelievable when you're when you're that type of player
that how do I say this? Troy Aikman is the
type of quarterback that Jared Goff is. He's an anticipatory
quarter anticipation quarterback. That's what he did well coming out
of UCLA. That's what he did well with Time of
the Cowboys. I know I cracked jokes on Troy Aikman.
Rightfully so to a certain extent. But the boy could
play the quarterback position, and where he was good at

(46:19):
his anticipation, he was cerebral. He would dial defenses down,
and because he had the best offensive line of all
the time, he had a lot of time. So when him,
when him and Tom watched the game, this is the
type of quarterback that they are. A better version. Well,
I think Jared Goff might better Troyan but anyway, a
better version. This is the type of offense he would
play in. That's exactly what it would look like. He'd

(46:40):
be tearing them up.

Speaker 8 (46:41):
Yeah, it's but those two teams, they're a legitimate Super
Bowl aspirations. I'm sure everybody who goes into camp says,
you know what, let's put up a saying here, let's
put up a trophy there. This is what our expectations.
I remember twenty nineteen Lakeland, Florida, walking into the Tigers
clubhouse down in spring training and there's a sign about

(47:04):
a championship, and I thought to myself, there's no flipping way, right.
But they all have goals, right, These two teams have
legitimate goals. Those are absolutely fair aspirations for both these
one teams right now, and and for Detroit to do
what they did. Knowing that Baltimore feels the same type

(47:24):
of stress is a bad word angst that the Lions
and Lions fans do. That made it to me even
more impressive.

Speaker 9 (47:31):
To answer the question, To answer the question that you asked,
if I was looking at this game yesterday, I'm watching
two teams and knowing anything about both, and I'm just
watching it. One team is going to the super Bowl,
the other team and they're gonna limp to the playoffs
and sitting around one they could go home.

Speaker 8 (47:47):
Well that's you're you're gonna make that judgment after three weeks.

Speaker 9 (47:50):
I'm just saying what I was. I saw, I was, Oh,
this is what it looks like.

Speaker 8 (47:53):
Oh, based on last night, based on last year, I
was gonna say. I thought maybe.

Speaker 16 (47:58):
No.

Speaker 8 (47:58):
I think their division, with all due respect to Sincy,
Cleveland and Pittsburgh, their division is more winnable than the Lions.
But if division, if you notice a lot of the
articles today on the national websites are all about the
Lions are still the king of the NFC North, And
after one week, what were those headlines it's Packers.

Speaker 9 (48:23):
It run is over.

Speaker 8 (48:23):
It's green Bay. The run is over. Thanks for playing
green Bay might be the best team in the NFC.
They didn't say the North. They said in the entire conference.

Speaker 11 (48:33):
And now this in some requestioning the Lions going back
into the offseason. Are they amongst the NFC's elite or
have they been passed up? And instantly after last night's win,
and Brailin said this too, he said, that win is
going to be a different one if you had the Ravens.
It's a it's a win over one of those elite
of the elites, over multipole top players in this league.

(48:54):
And you look at it, that win last night, and
you have everybody searching for words, players on that field,
media and some Detroit fans.

Speaker 9 (49:03):
Don't worry, I'm gonna call you out, but you know
what I'm saying, You don't have to admit it because
you know, I know this wasn't you Before that game
last night, everybody in this they had hopes that the
Lions were gonna win the Super Bowl, hopes that the
Lion were going to win the Super Bowl, whether it
was because of what happened last year. And I'm not
last year. At the end of last season, whether it
was whatever it was, everybody had gone down to I hope,

(49:24):
and you weren't gonna say it out loud because you said,
Lions go, Lions. They're still the team, but you hope.
And then after Week one you were like, I hope,
I hope we win the division one. And all I
said was winning that game against Baltimore. Now what Now
everybody believes that they're gonna win. Everybody believes that they're
back in the super Bowl. You're right, it's different. I

(49:45):
talked to people, no more hope.

Speaker 8 (49:46):
You're right. But I talked to people after I was
in at Lambeau for that game against the Packers, and
I saw a lot of Lions fans and they were like,
we may not win five games. I talked to a
lot of people. I mean, that's how queen they jumped
ship And I said, you realize it's only one game.
There's too much Game of the year. Yeah, I'm sorry.

(50:09):
There's sometimes I look at things and I just say,
there's way too much talent, and it can get screwed
up by a bad coach, it can get screwed up
by a bad manager, all right, But this team, with
its coaching staff and its philosophy and its culture and
its talent, they're just way too good to be as

(50:29):
bad as they looked against the Preactors. On a consistent basis, is.

Speaker 10 (50:33):
That that staple win that you were talking about last week?
Does the Ravens win yesterday? Is that your staple win
that you're looking for?

Speaker 15 (50:38):
It is?

Speaker 5 (50:39):
It is?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
And it was.

Speaker 9 (50:40):
That's what you said, And I stand by what I
said was if they won that game, that would take
them to number two. What I didn't say is in
the league. But we'll give to that later. It was
just the type of win that you want to see.
They did everything the right way. They fought hard, and
then they dominated physical presence that whole game. It was
I was real.

Speaker 8 (50:59):
I look at you know, people love we'd love to
have rankings just about everything. So everybody wants to know
where does this rank is Dan Campbell's biggest game or
biggest victory. And I think there's there's probably four games
from which to choose. The Kansas City game in the
opening night on a Thursday night a couple of years ago,

(51:20):
rams Okay, the I was gonna say the road game
in Tampa that won in lamb uh, the one at
home against Minnesota when both teams were fourteen and two
last year, and then this one. I would rank the
Kansas City win higher than this win, perhaps because of
the emotion, but also because the team's coming off a

(51:41):
Super Bowl win, so I thought, you know, punching them
in the mouth and doing what they did against Patrick Mahomes,
who is still the best quarterback in the world, I
thought was really impressive.

Speaker 10 (51:51):
I'm still gonna I'm going to say the Ravens win
is a little bit more important because of the way
that it looked. They rushed for over two hundred yards
in this game, and it's I felt like they let
the Ravens hang around a little bit in the game.

Speaker 8 (52:03):
But well, they didn't let them do anything.

Speaker 10 (52:05):
It's they They just really controlled the game and the
fourth down conversion was amazing to watch. I didn't like it,
to answer your question from earlier, but the way that
it looked. And then I believe that there was a
pick six in the Chiefs game with Brian Branch I thought,
back in the Chiefs game, and then you can always say, oh, well, photo, yeah,
Kelsey and the Chris Jones was out, but this one

(52:27):
just seemed like from start to finish they owned it.

Speaker 9 (52:30):
Here's your here's your four games for me.

Speaker 8 (52:32):
I'm sorry, can't you just see they were down twenty
one to fourteen. Okay, this one in the third.

Speaker 9 (52:38):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 10 (52:39):
So that's right.

Speaker 8 (52:40):
If I'm gonna go quite that that part of my part, Yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 9 (52:43):
To So now you failed on the shirt, you failed
on the common Yeah, yeah, struggling. Yeah, but we still
love you.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
We still love you.

Speaker 9 (52:51):
Just messing. You had the biggest witch, your top four
Casey Rams, Baltimore and green Bay one more time yet
green Bay, Green Bay when the season was over, Like
what that? What that did to this team? When they

(53:11):
fought hard, they knew it was over, they still played
that way and they got that win in Green Bay.
I'm talking about from a field, you know, I'm a
fields guy. Like that wind felt like something for this franchise.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
You're talking about. And the twenty four of.

Speaker 10 (53:26):
Twenty started twenty twenty three, end of twenty twenty two,
the end of twenty two.

Speaker 11 (53:31):
Yeah, the one when Sheila and Bradton were like walking
all over the field.

Speaker 9 (53:34):
What I'm saying, because the Seattle Rams doing that, come
up give me give me like.

Speaker 8 (53:39):
A tone set. It wasn't for a playoff.

Speaker 10 (53:40):
It wasn't ye, Dan say, you don't want them to.

Speaker 9 (53:43):
Go KC case, give me this Ravens game and then
give me the Rams playoff game.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
Yeah, I guess I was referring to regular season games. Okay, yeah,
Oh so that's why the Road killed it at Tampa.
I thought was pretty impressive. But I'm look, I'm with you.
I mean, that's a good one. The Green Bay one
is a really good one.

Speaker 9 (54:02):
The Texans game, like even though the Texans weren't that
good and we're seeing that now like it was a
it was a weird good win.

Speaker 8 (54:09):
Well, they won the division. You said, what Texans won
their division?

Speaker 9 (54:12):
Do you just point out how divisions can be good
or bad? It's a bad division.

Speaker 8 (54:15):
Yeah, No, I love the Green Bay poll. I didn't
think of that one.

Speaker 9 (54:19):
Good job in lockercause the locker room. You know what
it was is at the end in the locker room
that he has these good moments, Dan Campbell, the team,
you just knew that it was real, like if you
didn't believe it was real in twenty two in that
locker room and they beat Green Bay you're an idiot. Yeah,
you're an idiot. Like it fell offenic and we're still
riding kind of that same way since. So that's why
I like that win.

Speaker 8 (54:40):
Yeah, that's that's a good one. That was. Yeah, you're right.
It was a January eighth of twenty twenty three car
but it's a twenty two season, right, Yeah, and they
beat him twenty to sixteen. So not a huge scoring game,
just like the Kansas City game wasn't a huge scoring game.
I think sometimes we elevate a game like the Baltimore game,
and I think it's just to fight to be in there.

(55:01):
But I think we elevated because of how excited we
were with some of the offense.

Speaker 9 (55:05):
That quarterback wasn't Jordan Love either? Quarterback? When's Jordan Love.

Speaker 8 (55:11):
Fast? That that that adds to it?

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Does it?

Speaker 16 (55:16):
Does?

Speaker 9 (55:17):
That? Was that's his last game as a as a Packer.

Speaker 11 (55:21):
Yeah, you know what, man, You talk about last games,
and there are a lot of the people who they
absolutely feel this way that from the last night has
erased the stench in the fielding of the Detroit Lions
lost to the Commanders in JD five.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
That's from c C Note three one three you called
it br.

Speaker 9 (55:40):
Let me say something about this after watching, and I
appreciate that comment. But let's get some more of those one.
Get the chat involved because it's about you guys, and
you guys been riding this roller coaster with it, so
get you involved. Watching Demo be that good, you know
what it did to me. It reminded me of what
he looked like when he's fully healthy, which takes me
back to last year against the command If David Montgomery

(56:02):
was healthy, we would have beat the Commanders. We would
have not gotten out before the NFC Championship last year.
That's just my thought, and I would die on that hill.
That's why I was mad when he started him. But
you saw last night what he's like when he's healthy.
You saw the guy. We were like, oh my god,
thank you, Chicago. We appreciate you like him that If
we would have that in the playoffs, I don't care

(56:22):
about the mec Robinson and I don't care about the defense,
we would have been perfectly fine and we'd have won
an NFC. I don't want to go back with him.
Sorry I digress, but that's what that question did. It
reminded me of how good Demo is between those times.
If he would have been healthy, Oh that was the player.
It wasn't to meet Robinson, it was David Montgomery. If
he was healthy, that game would look different.

Speaker 10 (56:43):
I don't think that this win erases what happened last
year against that's last year. I think if anything, I'm
looking at this game and my first initial reaction was
who are we going to get at the deadline?

Speaker 8 (56:53):
This proves to me that what went through your mind?

Speaker 10 (56:56):
Because now we have another shot at it, Because now
we have another shot of making it.

Speaker 9 (57:00):
Un one of those people that thought it was over,
what do you over? And and what now we can
make it run in? So you thought it was over?

Speaker 8 (57:07):
No, this was like you said that earlier. And the
thing that goes through your mind is who are they
going to get at the trade deadline?

Speaker 10 (57:15):
Yeah, because we now have Yesterday the Packers game really
kind of was like WHOA, we might have to wait
for a super Bowl. But now this win against the
Ravens kind of just brought that Packers game back up
for me and now we're like, Okay, once the deadline comes,
who can we get to add this team to then
get us over the hump, get us in the super
Bowl and win it. That's what that way people thinks.

Speaker 8 (57:38):
People think I'm an angry elf. People think that I
get too emotional. After Game one of the Packers, he says,
our time is shot. No, I didn't say the game
after Game three against Baltimore, one of the most impressive
wins in Dan Campbell's tenure under his top four, in fact,
the most impressive. And he's not thinking about man, we
got a we got a solution with Tate Rattledge. We've

(58:00):
got a solution with Christian Mahogany. We've got DJ Reid
doing play good stuff. Mohammad was unbelievable. He's thinking, who
are we going to get at the trade?

Speaker 9 (58:08):
Okay, okay, let me defend him in this one. Let
me defend him a little bit in this one. You
and I both said they need to add more Russians,
even if eloquidem Mohammed I told you all I saw him.

Speaker 10 (58:20):
I'm not discrediting what happened on the field.

Speaker 9 (58:23):
I'm on your team, is what I'm saying. We said
we still needed more Russians. We wanted to add somebody.

Speaker 8 (58:28):
I said they needed depth, right, and don't give me wheat.

Speaker 10 (58:31):
This is what he said, I'm not discrediting what this
win does. I'm saying that this win has just been like,
all right, we got another crack at it this year
of getting back to this super Bowl. I didn't say
the season was done after the Packers game, but it
kind of brought me down a level, like, WHOA, maybe
my expectation should be a little bit lower.

Speaker 8 (58:46):
Did you when you said we've got another shot? It
took the win over Baltimore to convince you they've got
another shot. You didn't think that before the season, is
what I'm asking.

Speaker 10 (58:55):
I thought, maybe I still think we're going to make
the playoffs, but my expectation was like may I'm a
little bit on the fence of if we can get back.

Speaker 9 (59:03):
To a super Bowl.

Speaker 10 (59:04):
That's what it was after that loss.

Speaker 8 (59:06):
After the Packers loss.

Speaker 10 (59:07):
It's not like the season's over. We're winning five games
like the other people are saying. But I'm like, hey,
we may have a tough one with the Packers another
time and in the playoffs if we see them, like
there's another there's another sheriff in town is what basically
what it was. But that win is like, all right,
we This just kind of gets me back to we
got another shot at this. And then again, I'm not
saying we need to add a pass rusher today. I'm saying,

(59:29):
is who can we take from a Bengals from the
Dolphins at the trade deadline? Of let's let's just add
them into the let's give ourselves shot.

Speaker 8 (59:37):
I get it. I I I wasn't even considering that.
All I thought about is how impressed I was with
the various impressive win.

Speaker 10 (59:45):
But I'm thinking of how can we get ourselves back
to this or get ourselves to the super Bowl.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
I'm on the same team as I agreed. It's a
conversation that we've have in the last couple weeks. I
agree with you. I just wanted to I just wanted
to clear him up real quick. You say there's there's
a new also another sheriff in town. When that quote
came on back in the day, there was one sheriff
for town. So the sheriff in this town will still
be the Detroit Lions. They would be a deputy trying

(01:00:09):
to demote the sheriff. So but I agree, we wanted
to add depth. And I think this is a situation
where yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:00:17):
Yeah, I was just gonna say Cardier and the chat,
and we got a couple of super chats I want
to get to as well. He gives you support. He
says deadline should always be a convo. I agree with
the kid. For whatever reason you're you've been referred to
as the kid.

Speaker 8 (01:00:30):
He's already twenty two.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
But uh, we do got some We got some super
chats here, man.

Speaker 9 (01:00:36):
People that win Super Bowls, they do make moves the
trade deadline. Like the last five teams that have won
the Super Bowl have made move some of the major moves.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
So it's not like Detroit didn't make a move last year.
I just wasn't thinking about it in week three, That's all.
I'm not saying he's wrong. I wasn't thinking about it,
and he just got excited and and yes, and he
immediately said Cincinnati and Miami. And my thought is, okay,
so you think they're gonna trade for trade Headrickson or
Jalen phil Lips would be my.

Speaker 10 (01:01:01):
Guest, that'd be. That's just the ones that came out
the top of my head immediately. That's just I thought
I would love it explaining.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
That's not happening for hendricks Oh, you want a double
shot of espresso? He's not. If you're talking about what
do I need to serve? He's like, oh, I want
it all.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
I'm in.

Speaker 10 (01:01:18):
My head.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
No breaks.

Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
Some people feel like they probably need a covered corner
instead of that's a rush.

Speaker 9 (01:01:25):
End Carlton Davis, No takers.

Speaker 11 (01:01:31):
We do got a couple of super chats here detroy
D's with the two dollars super chat. He says game
was amazing. Thirty five year Lions fan here, any worry
about the d line?

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Uh not?

Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
Not yesterday? No, I look at it. I guess I
look at it this way. Aleen McNeil is going to
be back within the next couple three weeks. That's gonna
be huge. Should add a little bit of pressure from
the middle of that lineup. It's probably gonna him a
little bit of time, taking Aiden Hutchinson sometime, so I
would guess it might take some of McNeil a little

(01:02:05):
bit of time as well. I'm not saying this guy's
an answer, but if you get Josh Pascal back, that
helps a little bit. That might free up some other
guys to get in there. And I sure, but wake
Kelvin Sheppard dialed up pressure last night. They had seven sacks,
three and a half came from defensive lineman Mohammed had
two and a half, Aiden Hutchinson had won. Everything else

(01:02:27):
was Alexandzeloni, Derek Barnes, people like that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
Speaking speaking, let me give some credit first before I
throw some shade speaking of I told you, gentlemen and
ladies out there, that Aiden Hutchinson has to start being
some double teams. Well he did you one better. He'd
beat a triple team. But that is what I'm talking
about from Aid. He is a star at that position.
Us asking him to do that, us asking him to

(01:02:51):
make some players like that, it's not us asking for
anything that's impossible. It's in his wheelhouse. That's what he does.
So shouts to Aid and hutcheson, now now go continue
to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
They're doing it.

Speaker 8 (01:03:01):
Against Lamar Jackson makes it even that much more impressive
one hundred because as far as I'm concerned, you're beating
double teams, but then you're also trying to get to
a guy who is the most elusive quarterback perhaps the
league has ever seen.

Speaker 9 (01:03:13):
And that's why you had to stay in those rush lands.
And that's why one of the big things for me
was like, if they can stay in rush lanes. You know,
everybody looks at a track, just imagine four lanes. Imagine
somebody being in the middle of four lanes and trying
to go somewhere as it's just moving just like this.
You can't. But when you start doing getting out of
your rush lanes, when you start well, I'm gonna go
over here, you start being undisciplined. That's when Lamar slips
through those cracks. That's when you see those highlights where

(01:03:35):
he shakes the guy and there's nothing over here because
a guy got up his rush lane or he one
move over here, and where's everybody at Guys are undisciplined.
They weren't undisciplined last night. Hutch wasn't undisciplined. El Cordel
Mouhammad wasn't the padd O'Connor when he got it, he
wasn't undisciplined. That was a hell of a game plan.
By then, they're gonna play better offensive lines in the future.
But that defensive line and what they were able to

(01:03:56):
do and what they were able to establish, that's gonna
be scary and get better at that. And then there
is a guy that comes back late October early November.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
Yeah, that's it's a it's a big deal, man. And
the way they were able to do that against a
guy who is just so elusive, he's so tough. That's
why I think Kelvin Shepard deserves a game ball. Hell yeah, man,
that what they were So people already know this, I hope.
But Lamar Jackson has never been sacked more frequently than
he was last night by that Lion's defense. And Kelvin

(01:04:28):
Shepherd's the one who dialed it all up.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
It's awesome.

Speaker 11 (01:04:32):
I do have that idea of Lamar Jackson as well,
you know, talking about effectively the types of looks that
he was getting.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
So let's play that when we come back. We got
to hit a break. We haven't had one in a while.
That's Braylen's fault because he makes too many good points.

Speaker 9 (01:04:48):
And speaking of another good point, Kelvin Sheppard's defense since
the second half of the green Bay game, yeah, has
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Just what it was, you know, guys. Was they were
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Got he said, got there, and I just not throw
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It's quite the salad, by the way, Yeah, that is
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That is.

Speaker 8 (01:12:29):
That's a that's a hockey look, to be honest with you. Then,
so there were some things that he was apparently confused
him a little bit or at least frustrated him. It
trure seemed like anyway.

Speaker 9 (01:12:41):
Yeah, and it pissed their whole team off because they
couldn't figure out the Detroit lines, whether it was the
offensive line, couldn't figure out how this defensive end this
defensive line or russell the opposite for them. They couldn't
figure out the looks. This is what we wanted. We
wanted him to get multiple looks, just keeping guessing, like, yeah,
what I'm saying, I didn't know what the looks were
gonna be, but I knew you had to. You had
to confuse him. It seems like they did that. He
just could. He seemed unhappy all game. This is the

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Lamar we typically see in the playoffs, like this is
the lamar we'll see against the Chiefs. This is the
lamaro we see against the Bills. And when they get
the win and it doesn't go right, and you can
start to see it during the games, he gets uncomfortable,
he gets frustrated and he starts to say things. You
can see that mouthpiece that he's where and I'm gonna
talk about a rubber mouthpiece. I'm talking about goals and diamonds.
You can see that mouthpiece. Get the move and and

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get the flowing man smile, get the smile, and it's
the fake smile. He was frustrated and he was flustered
last night. That goes back to Kelvin Sheppard. Kelvin Sheppard
had just died up. He had just died up, and
he had it ready to go all all season long
and he died and more to it as the season
got here, and then going into this week, he had
those guys prepared. Did you see guys jumping, did you

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see guys falling for the jump the pump?

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Fake?

Speaker 9 (01:13:47):
Yeah, you see guys in the air, Guys getting out
of their rustlings. They were dialed and they were disciplined,
and Kelvin Shephard and this defense.

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
They deserve it.

Speaker 9 (01:13:55):
The team in general deserves credit for what they did,
but we're talking about the defense and hutch As he
showed up Jack Campbell, you know, eight tackles. He had
the big fourth and two stop, well they had three
of them, but one of the big fourth and two
stops you saw him show up, I mean Brian Branch
five one, and then he almost had a pick. Not
used to him dropping passes. But I digress because it

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wasn't needed.

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Real quick from the chat, and we want you to,
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Somebody had said, you know, Shep has literally never seen
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doesn't like him. That's not true. I didn't say I
didn't like him. What I said was is that you

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would like somebody other than him as one of your
depth players at defensive end. I don't care whether or
not the guy was a high round draft pick. One
of my favorite players all time is London Fletcher. He
played at John Carroll for crying out loud. One of
my favorite linebackers right now. Fred Warner was a third
round pick. I'm not so naive to think that I

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know Carrus sweet better than the Lions front office. But
if you're going to try and make people a little
bit more comfortable in terms of depth as concerned, you'd
like somebody other than a guy you grabbed off somebody's
practice squad. That's all. Yeah, Look, And I don't think
that's that far that much to ask, or you would
like when you're in this position, I would like somebody

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who played more than you know, four percent of the
snaps two years ago that he was involved in and
thirty percent of the snaps he played last year. Is
that too much to ask? I don't think so. I
would like somebody who's gonna play more than eight games
last year. I think that's fair to ask. If you're
a Detroit Lions fan, knowing that you've got some cap

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room in which to work.

Speaker 9 (01:15:48):
There, you go, yeah, that's one hundredsent fair as one
hundred percent fair. A lot of times the moves that
they make, a lot of times, some guys they bring
in they're just they're nothing burgers for that of a
better word. But sometimes they hit like Alkadem Mohammad. And
it was cool to see Brad Holmes in that locker
room after. That's one thing that he does well as
a former player, as a guy, you know, his story

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to becoming the GM here for the Detroit Lives. He
believes in the guys that he brings in, he develops
relationship with him. And when Alkadem Mohammad after he gets
the game ball, who's the guy right behind him just
laughing it up, cheering it up, excited. It's none oh
than Brad Holmes. I mean, that's the guy that's the
mass scientist, that's the other side that you love. You
love that he really means it when he said my guys,

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and when he says he means it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:32):
So it was cool to see his always as a
sixth round pick there you go, okay, six round pick
by New Orleans was there when Dan Campbell was there.
It's a pretty neat story. I think of what he
went through. And you saw Kool they played it for
you earlier in the show. His appreciation for the organization,
the coaches and his room when he's sitting there saying, look,

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I want to think the guy's in my room, because
this would not be possible. In other words, everybody's helping
one another. And I think a lot of that comes
from Aiden Hutchinson, by the way, but it's it's pretty cool.

Speaker 11 (01:17:07):
And you know, speaking about this Defensier, this is an
interesting comment from zuper Bowl Wilson because I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Seeing the trends here in the chat.

Speaker 11 (01:17:14):
Super Bowl spy only works if the DBS are covering
say what I want about ta But he came through
and it really mattered Terry and onold he.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
Wasn't, uh, it wasn't getting too much love on the
social webs.

Speaker 8 (01:17:28):
Oh my god last night. Last night he was getting torched.

Speaker 9 (01:17:31):
He got torched in the first half and he died
in a little bit. In the second half, he made
some plays. I think it was a little bit more
out of reach. But you know, you want to see
what this looks like next week. You know, in that
game they had his uh, they had then and see
if the Lions had the Baltimore Ravens number by the
time the second half started and he getting to the
third court the third quarter, they had their numbers. So
a lot of that stuff is coverage stuff. If you will.

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What would you do with his situation with ta Yeah,
I mean, what can you do? He's just he's just
starting number He's a DV, he's a number two. Like
at the end of the day, he's going to figure
it out. Like this is in a situation where we're gonna,
you know, like you gotta figure it out, like we
gotta watch film, we gotta dial it in. What is
it going to take to be able to what is

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his mental block? What's going on? If there's something going
on like that, you're in I'm throwing him in the fire.
I'm keep loading him up, keep lining him up, you know,
at the line of scrimmage in time to make some
plays and figure it out.

Speaker 8 (01:18:26):
The only thing I ask you, the reason I ask
you that is because the Tigers didn't have time to
let Charlie Morton figure it out. All right. Now, he's
a veteran, so it's a lot different. But a veteran,
you you would actually think he could figure it out.
You would think he would get a little bit more
rope to figure it out. But they felt like they
didn't have time. Not saying the Lions don't have time,

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they absolutely do. And with a young player who's only
in what nineteen games deep in his career, and the
second season you want, and you invested as heavily as
you have, you've got to get some time. I'm talking
about from a playing stamp point. Should he be you
talked about it last week, not the best man demand
cover corner. Would you play him in strictly his zone situations?

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Would you put him on a different side of the field.
They're gonna attack it no matter what. How would you
go about trying to make sure he's put in a
better position for success.

Speaker 9 (01:19:18):
One, if you're playing league whires hevers, I would match
up DJ Reed like I would just take that option
out of the equation. And then too, I would put
a man over top. I would help him. You have Kirby, Joseph,
Bryan Branch, you have already be the best secondary as
it relates to safeties in the league. So I would
use one of them to help out in situations that
felt like he needed. But other than that difference to

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Charlie Morton, he's the only one pitching when he's on
the mound. He's the only one. You know what I'm saying,
Terry and Arnold, He's got ten other guys helping him
if you will, and if you put one over top,
you got a guy directly reflecting your help.

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Smash that like button. Get involved in the chat. We
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Oh, definitely deafite and thank you guys.

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A game man, just to echo the sentiments from Chep,
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Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
It's a it's a victory day. I went Tuesday, maybe
victory Tuesday. So you guys right now we get the
best day.

Speaker 9 (01:20:16):
But these are the best moments in football. Is victory Monday,
victory Tuesday?

Speaker 8 (01:20:21):
You can tell it's a victory Tuesday? Or what's a
victory Monday? David Montgomery crashed Aiden Hutchinson's press conference. How
cool was that? Huh say? I don't know what was
more brought a smile to my face. More that or
the celebration where they were going folding.

Speaker 9 (01:20:37):
That's pretty awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
Alright, I got the victory shade on. Now we have
to do this day right for the super chat.

Speaker 11 (01:20:42):
But you know what, Edrich Shelby ten dollars super Chat
and it currently holds the number one crown as top
fan in our time fan. He says, I think people
really sleep on Demo. Of course he's not as fast
as Gibbs, but when you add elusiveness to power running,
you get big gains between the town and up the middle.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
Thank you, thank you, thank you for the super Chot.

Speaker 16 (01:21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:21:06):
I don't think anybody forgot realistically. I mean I hope
they did, you know, because that's not gonna fail. There's
not gonna fare well for them when we play them.
But I think it was more so the injury. I
think it was getting back healthy, and I think it
was just his first three games getting to where the
line understeal what was gonna work for them? I think
that's what Johnny Moo had to get into, what type
of style of running was gonna work for them, and
be able to go into this game. All right, cool,

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we'll attack the interior this game. Maybe next game we'll
do some zone stretch stuff. But he dialed it in
for this one, and you allow David Montgomery to get
loose because jamiir gonna all the touches. Jamier still had
his twenty six touches. However, Dave Montgomery had twelve about well,
yeahs of general, he still got his touches. In general,
Dave Montgomery twelve carries, one hundred and fifty one yards,
two touchdowns. That was especially for the inside zone blocking

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scheme worked well for them. Those doubles up front, that was.
That was really good to say.

Speaker 8 (01:21:55):
Yeah, it was really enjoyable, And I'm happy for David
Montgomery because he's a guy. You could tell he's worked
his tail off to get back to what he thought
was going to help the team a year ago. I mean,
people need to remember, I think only had seven touches
seven carries in that game against Washington. But to your
point earlier, just starting him in the first place was

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a little frustrating for I think a lot of people.
And it was a respect thing, That's what it was.
It was people saying, you know what, we respect your leadership,
we respect you as a veteran, and we respect the
fact that you have worked so hard to get back
here and help us. But you could tell that last
version against Washington was not the version of Dave Montgomery

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we saw against Chicago or we saw last night against Baltimore.

Speaker 9 (01:22:42):
Yeah, and then sometimes you know, I get it, but
you know, you shouldn't lose a game because you're trying
to trying to be nice, so you're trying to reward
someone's leadership. Yeah, at the end of the day, it's
about the entirety of the team, and the team would
understand if he wasn't ready, which he wasn't, because you
can see when he took the first snap, he didn't
really have that pop he had at his ass. He'd
have that Urki Jerki put a foot in the ground,
go the opposite way. It was kind of like, all right,

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put you in.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:23:06):
If there was if there was one weak part of
the team last night, and I was, you know, we've
been glowing about how good they were, I suppose it
would be the secondary because of two possible interceptions dropped
and the fact that Terry and Arnold gave up a
couple of big plays. We know how much he's targeted,

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we know how much he's given up so far on
the year. But I'd rather focus on a lot of
the positives that they've got going right now too.

Speaker 9 (01:23:36):
The only reason I wouln't focus on that because you're
not you're not focused on you just bringing them up
because it happened. But I wouldn't even worry about it
because it's Lama Jackson to Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, like every
team is going to make some plays, especially you know,
certain teams. So the fact that that's the Ravens and
yet it's a wash.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
I don't think enough has been made about the tackle
that Jake Bates.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Made was great.

Speaker 9 (01:24:00):
Serry saved touchdown.

Speaker 8 (01:24:03):
It did save a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:24:04):
It did.

Speaker 8 (01:24:04):
Yeah, And because of their offensive success, primarily rushing, and
because of the seven sacks and some of the outstanding
plays that either either they did make or were close
to making the two interceptions, it's kind of gotten lost
a little bit. That was a really big play by him.
You know, so special teams. You said it yesterday. I

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don't know why people don't talk more about special teams.
Coaches will give you all kinds of boring cliches, but
they're cliches for a reason because they're true. It's third
of the game.

Speaker 9 (01:24:36):
Gotta have it, and you can look at it, and
you can look at all the snaffoos that happened on
Sunday and all the undisciplined football that was played. That
was one of the things I said. I was happy
that that game didn't happen yesterday or that day because
they were able to go over it again. They were
able to redial in refolk.

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That's all right, give you a chance to fix it,
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Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
Did you fall asleep?

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
I wanted to, but we were on a time constraint.

Speaker 8 (01:32:10):
You were close close to falling asleep. It's trust me.
The one we have in here. I don't know how
old it is. I don't care. As we sat in
it before, I don't care. I love that thing, man.
I just want to as cool as you. Just want
to stay, stay in it for the entire day of
the show to show there's a lot of really good

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numbers associated with the Lions. I want to get to
courtesy of that Lions media relations. They are fantastic. They
won an award last year for the best in the
National Football League, and rightfully so. They they're good people.
They work their ass off, but it really helps to
have a really good team. Like I say this all
the time, if you want to look at I'm a
game notes kind of freak. I love game notes and

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reading them. Some of the best in all of sports.
Green Bay Packers, New England Patriots when they had Tom Brady,
Indiana Schols when they had Peyton Manning, Kansas City Royals,
University of Michigan has fantastic notes. Lions notes are awesome,
and they've got some really good numbers. Let me give

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you some of them real quick. Over the last two weeks,
Lions became the first NFL team here we go since
already seventy merger to complete the following numbers in two games.
Six passing tds, six rushing tds, no sacks allowed, no turnovers.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:33:32):
That's impressive. Wow, that's definitely a very only time in
NFL history a team has had two players log two
hundred and fifty scrimmage yards and three rushing tds through
the first three games of the season. It was the
Lions with gibbson Montgomery, it was a nineteen sixty Brown
and Mitchell for the Cleveland Cleveland Browns yea, and in

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nineteen fifty eight the Rams with Arnette and Wilson. Don't
ask me, I don't know, but that puts it in
pretty good perspective, does it not? Absolutely? And the last one,
David Montgomery first Lions player to rush for one hundred
and fifty yards and two TVs in a game since
James Stewart in two thousand and two. He's the first

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Lion to produce those numbers in a road game since
they're great. Barry Sanders in nineteen ninety seven, good stuff,
smash that like button and get some of your super
chats here, just your chats in there, because Cooley's gonna
read him.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Oh yeah, man, We definitely got a couple of super chats.
And we still have that question there.

Speaker 11 (01:34:36):
Who gets your game ball won on offense, one on
defense and to the coach. I know Bray and Shep
they're gonna share theirs as well. But let's get to
these other two super chats we have thank you guys
for supporting Detroit thirty eight number two Crown Today four
ninety nine, Superchat says, should the Lions play the final
count down during the playoffs to channel some two thousand

(01:34:58):
and four Pistons grit as?

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
Well?

Speaker 9 (01:35:01):
Uh, we gotta get to the playoffs. I mean, I know,
I know, I know he will like, but uh, let's
get to the playoffs first. If you want to start
doing this at home games, sure, like, I'm cool with that.
Get it going, add some infuds, some pistons with it,
but I's worried about the playoffs, you know, down that
down there.

Speaker 8 (01:35:17):
I would say, no, come up with your own theme.

Speaker 7 (01:35:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:35:23):
And it wasn't two thousand and four, it was nineteen
eighty eight, ninety Yeah, I knew it's a hair band.
I like hair bands. I was a big hair band guy.
I can't say that. I'm a big europe guy. That's
who sang it. All right. It've got a couple of hits,
but it worked for me back in the palace. It
worked for me with the Pistons, and that's what I

(01:35:43):
associated with. I think you want to have your own
song associated with it? Yeah, okay, thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Next and burned one of our regulars.

Speaker 5 (01:35:54):
Burn.

Speaker 8 (01:35:55):
Now that's a good song by Deep Purple.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
Hey shout out to that.

Speaker 9 (01:35:58):
Yeah, he said, was he talking about the filling or
the Philly.

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
Burns?

Speaker 10 (01:36:09):
Who?

Speaker 11 (01:36:09):
I was super tent fascinated by Christian mahogany third bag
turning into another steal.

Speaker 9 (01:36:19):
Yeah, it appears that way. That game with was phenomenal.
Last two games have been really good. You know, we
gave the credit to playing at home last week and
they played on a row and they played even better.
So one eversent. It seems like they find ways to
get some offensive line in there.

Speaker 8 (01:36:34):
But here's what I love about what a lot of
the team's probably minus the wings are is the drafting
and developing of players. So we've seen it a lot
with the Tigers, and they have been forced to play
probably a little bit sooner. The beauty of last year
was the Christian Mahogany played seventy one seventy two snaps.

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Didn't play in a lot of games to.

Speaker 9 (01:36:58):
Be the equivalent of complete.

Speaker 8 (01:37:01):
A complete game, right, a really good game. But what
would happen there is you're learning on a regular basis.
From Graham Glasgow, from Kevin Zeitler, who's playing the right
guard position. Right, you are soaking in a crapload of
knowledge and I love that. So then you expect once
he's there, like he should get better. Ron Holland the

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third is going to get better right when the Pistons
play at least Sosar Thompson. Those are the things you
want to wake up, kol Aid. That's all you get
to do. There you go, Kole, can't wait till Monday.

Speaker 9 (01:37:35):
That's I'm glad. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm gonna
just do mine now and get him out the way.
That's their hang. Frailey is my coach of the game. Maggans.
You mentioned may so I just said, let me do
mine now. It's Tang Frailey, former teammate of mind. He
got these guys ready, you remember two three weeks ago
where we were at last week to this week, it's
got to be Hank Fraley. He's got those guys humping.
He's got him got them going. So players of the game,

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no shot here. It's the offensive line and is the
defensive line. I'm going offensive line, defense, defensive line. I'm
sorry to be Jene No, it's great.

Speaker 8 (01:38:06):
Stole some thunder.

Speaker 5 (01:38:08):
But I love that.

Speaker 8 (01:38:10):
I do love it. My game ball would go to
Kelvin Shephard, the defensive coordinator. The Lions have produced at
least eleven sacks through the first three games. The only
other times that's happened in Lion's history was twenty ten,
nineteen ninety seven, and nineteen eighty three. Nothing to show
for Yeah, well, I mean decent seasons, but nothing to

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show for. Correct, So what they did this year and
what they've done, and how they've adjusted and how they've adapted.
And you mentioned it the second half, since the second
half of green Bay. I know you can't throw out
the first game, but forget the first half if possible,
because green Bay scored on their first three possessions at seventeen.

Speaker 9 (01:38:50):
Points three plays too.

Speaker 8 (01:38:51):
Yeah, that second half they have taken off. They've been
rock solid, and I'll take that type of production. And
as I mentioned earlier, to do it against I'm sorry.
I mean, there are certain guys who raise a bar
for you. If you do something against Lamar Jackson compared
to doing something against Jake Browning. It's a different story
for me.

Speaker 9 (01:39:11):
And that's why I'm gonna stay patient with Terry and
Arnold I know we don't want to. I know he
was getting tearing up and that's tore up excuse me.
And that's fine. But the tide lifts I mean the
tie excuse me, the tie lifts all ships. Yeah, like
the rising tide lifts off ships. That you see how
good this defense has been playing. You see what the
trajectory is for them. He by the fun will get better.

(01:39:33):
He by the fault with develop more confidence. So state
of course, and we'll see what Kelvin Shepherd can do
in helping that. This is the why this is the small,
small place where they miss Aaron Glenn is because I
talk about it. Aaron Glenn all pro secondary type player.
So this is something that Aaron Glenn could have been
tapped into in the season.

Speaker 8 (01:39:52):
He might be the guy who's who's missing him the most.
Others might be really taking advent, taking advantage of Jack
Jack cam You said yesterday Jack Campbell will really be big.
You expect ten tackles out of him. I think he
had nine, okay, and I thought he was everywhere he was.

Speaker 9 (01:40:09):
And he he's at the second time.

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
Yeah, he's an absolute monster. I love he just swallows
guys up. I think he's an awesome player. I'm glad
we got him.

Speaker 9 (01:40:20):
I'm gonna stand by my My reaction to when the
Lions drafted him based on what you just said, is
I stand by it. Him and eight and Hudgson are
the same size. Him and eight Hudson the same size.
So I'm thinking back then, I'm like, this is who
my mind like, this is who my will linebacker is
gonna be a guy six five to sixty. That was
my mindset.

Speaker 8 (01:40:41):
But you draft like him?

Speaker 9 (01:40:43):
Hell yeah, film does not lie. Yeah, film does not lie.
He's gotten better and better. It's not like year by
year he's better and better game by game. He's game
by game.

Speaker 11 (01:40:53):
It's quite a co I think that's what makes Brandon's
breakdown some of the best. You know, it's not like
every one of the projections are gonna be right. But
come back and say, based on the film, why I
might be wrong on it and I like what he's putting.

Speaker 8 (01:41:04):
All right, Listen, there's no there's no problem saying I
was wrong. I wish more people could do that in life.
We will have a Bravalan's breakdown on Thursday, Yes we will.
We're looking forward to that. Who's your game ball.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
Who you know what, I gotta give the game to one,
not even the rights.

Speaker 8 (01:41:22):
I gotta tell you, man, Big ste Big Stuke came
out and played big for him last night. Big Stu
wasn't there. That's all right, man, I know he was
practicing really hard at the practice facility.

Speaker 11 (01:41:31):
It was the aura, you know what, man shout out
to Uh, I like where you're going with Hank Frayley
and I wanted to just give all the love to
those running backs. But that offensive line, it was just
so tough all night. They gave Jared off the time
he needed. It opened up some big running holes and
lanes for DeMont to get through and do everything that
he had to do. So I gotta give at least

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an offensive side it's shared to that offensive line.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
On the defensive side, it's uh. I don't know if
it goes to Dan Campbell or not.

Speaker 11 (01:42:02):
This is kind of cheating because he's also the coach,
But he's the one that said we're good and we
saw last time that defensive line was absolutely something that
looked good against.

Speaker 8 (01:42:10):
So why not just give it to.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
Mister AQM.

Speaker 11 (01:42:15):
I don't want to steal the thunder of the chat
there's a lot of people in the chad who gave
the game ball to it. I wouldn't give the game
ball to him to. Ultimately, in a perfect world, Dan
Campbell gave it to him to. So I was like,
you know what, that's definitely makes sure we highlight because
there was a lot of people who didn't even know
if he would be anything more than the depth piece. Well,
Dan Campbell stood on business and said, you know what,
we got enough at home.

Speaker 8 (01:42:35):
Maybe people are glad that Marcus Davenpoor got hurt. Since
all Kadean Muhammad has been so good, can I give
him a nickname? Since it's a Q and M, can
we just can we call him Aquaman because he swims
through guys to get to the quarterback.

Speaker 9 (01:42:47):
I kind of like that Aquaman, AQM Aquaman. I'll tell
you what.

Speaker 8 (01:42:52):
Thank graphics coming.

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
So you like it?

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
You know from Young Justice too?

Speaker 5 (01:42:56):
I like that one.

Speaker 9 (01:42:58):
You know how men wear these crossbags? No, I'm not
a fan of it because it's very.

Speaker 8 (01:43:04):
I don't but I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 9 (01:43:07):
I've seen pictures and then the bags got smaller, So
I don't mind when the bag I mean I do
mind all of it. But when you have the bigger
version whenever, like somebody had on a small version last
Thursday when I went out to eat and somebody made
a comment about it, and I was like, look, we'll
see how he looks on the football field. Well, two

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and a half sacks. You know what I'm saying, keep
wearing it.

Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
That's working.

Speaker 8 (01:43:31):
I'm just gonna say. You don't have to say somebody,
if we're talking about Muhammad.

Speaker 9 (01:43:34):
And keep and you have talked about keep wearing it
is working.

Speaker 8 (01:43:39):
Hey, Ryan, who's your game?

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
Ball go to?

Speaker 10 (01:43:42):
Uh so coach wise, I would go Kelvin Shephard. I
mean they had pressure able to scheme up some good
pressures the whole time.

Speaker 13 (01:43:49):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:43:49):
Defensively, I'm gonna go with the linebacking corps. I thought
Angeloney was good. Derek Barnes made a big play. I
thought that it's undervalued, a little very good call.

Speaker 8 (01:43:59):
Derek Burnes is a good You could have just gone
Derek Barnes like he just picked one guy. I just
picked one guy. I said, though, Oh, I thought you
said Hank Freely I was a coach. Oh you went
coaching player.

Speaker 5 (01:44:10):
I did coach.

Speaker 8 (01:44:11):
That's what you get for not listening bad and I.

Speaker 10 (01:44:14):
Think NOWASKI had a sack or at least like a
stopped Lamar.

Speaker 8 (01:44:18):
It was a tackle for loss. Okay, that was that
was big.

Speaker 10 (01:44:21):
But back to the Derek Barnes one, is he tripped
up Lamar and that I think that play would have
been like a twenty yard game or something like that.
And then offensively, I didn't even mention the best linebacker
on the day exactly. That's how great they were. That's
how great they were.

Speaker 8 (01:44:36):
I thought Derek Barnes was really good though. He was,
I mean, he was special. So I think that's a
good pull by you.

Speaker 10 (01:44:41):
I want to say the running backs, but again, like
kool Aid said, the offensive line gets it done. And
I like seeing the offensive line move people, especially with
Michigan and the Lions and.

Speaker 8 (01:44:51):
Saying everybody, I mean, I thought we were just picking one.

Speaker 10 (01:44:54):
No, I said, I was gonna say the running back
if I had to pick one, be a sneaky one.

Speaker 8 (01:44:59):
Say he's great too.

Speaker 10 (01:45:01):
They're all great.

Speaker 9 (01:45:03):
Everybody gets a game box up.

Speaker 8 (01:45:05):
You know, we all hold hands and sing kumba.

Speaker 10 (01:45:09):
But offensively offensive line, okay, and you know what.

Speaker 11 (01:45:12):
Let's see if our chat family did a little bit
better because they definitely put theirs in the chat and
kicking things off. Super Bowl Wilson says a q M
and DeMont Derek in the chat says Manty on offense,
Muhammad on defense.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
And this is the reoccurring theme throughout the chat. Evan Foster.

Speaker 11 (01:45:30):
Yeah, Manty had a game, and I agree though Ta
does need to improve. So he just told us at
least his game ball on offense. Michael Werry shout out
to Michael Warry, one of ours off the chatb solute
the man. AQM on defense, Manty on offense. Uh, that's
page one. So everybody agrees in those two players at
the very least.

Speaker 8 (01:45:50):
I'm sorry, I do like a lot of people in
the chat, you can tell that they're paying attention to
more than just where the ball is. Somebody brought up
Jamison Williams was really good early on and then became
a really good blocker. Now, yeah, Braylan brought up Braylan
brought up the one miss block assignment. But you're gonna
have those every once in a while.

Speaker 9 (01:46:11):
And I only bought that because we were talking about
the long run and it was kind of like, oh,
like he got the block but then he slipped off
the block. I was trying to point him out my
bad m.

Speaker 8 (01:46:20):
Yeah no, I don't think anybody took it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
But it was like you could have went from good
to better.

Speaker 8 (01:46:25):
Yeah yeah, somebody else said Dan at the podium. Yeah,
Dan Campbell at the podium is awesome. Yeah, you know,
and him at halftime, you know, he has no price.
You could tell when they tried to interview Bill Belichick
at halftime, there was he could. He could find one
hundred and fifty different places that he wanted to be like.

(01:46:46):
He looked like he look, I got to get out
of here. I got to go to the bathroom, right.
Dan Campbell would sit there and wait to replace the
light bulb just so we could talk to the reporter.
That's how you know cordial he is about it.

Speaker 10 (01:46:58):
There's or now Belichick wants to talk to his girlfriend.

Speaker 8 (01:47:00):
So well, let's let's not get started.

Speaker 9 (01:47:02):
Just different, but but just different eras though, because if
you think about it like this, Bill Belichick's from the oschool.
Now he's from seventies, eighties, early nineties. They're not talking
to sideline reporters. They're not talking in the between quarters.
They're not talking. Yeah, well they talk a half time,
but they're not talking four times a game. So that
started getting very annoying for you, and the whole all
of it started getting annoyed, and rightfully.

Speaker 8 (01:47:24):
So would you want to do that just before game
you're trying to get locked in? They did it with
Lamar Jackson last night. Now, if I were the reporter,
I'd probably get in trouble for this, but I'd say
to Lamar, could you take your helmet off for us
because I like to see your face, because Lamar had
half his face covered. I did that once with a
player that we're doing a postgame show on Tiger. I'm
on the field, I'm like, hey, can you take your

(01:47:44):
glasses off?

Speaker 9 (01:47:45):
Show me respect?

Speaker 8 (01:47:46):
Oh my god, they looked. They looked at me like
a lobster's crawling on me. What do you want to
take my glasses so we can see your face? Because
I see the camera, I can only inflection.

Speaker 9 (01:47:54):
I can only imagine Matt Shepard in Boulder, Colorado two
years ago, trying to enter you Prime, and Prime got
the hat and.

Speaker 10 (01:48:04):
Was no, No, that was that was the question.

Speaker 9 (01:48:06):
You would excuse me, I can take a hat off
and you sung last.

Speaker 8 (01:48:11):
I can at least ask, I can at least ask.
There's been plenty of objects, plenty of problems. Jimmy Johnson,
get the hell out of my locker, and plenty of problems. Okay,
anything else.

Speaker 11 (01:48:21):
Yeah, Brendan our sales guy, extraord and near. Actually what
man in Florida gets a sneaky game ball?

Speaker 8 (01:48:28):
Good one.

Speaker 4 (01:48:29):
He came up huge all night on third down and
blocking that.

Speaker 8 (01:48:33):
That's a really good one. It was mentioned a little
bit earlier, and that's when Braylan broke into the Lionel
Richie song all night long. But he was he was
really good. I'm a big tight end guy. I love
the tight ends. It's a big reason why I think.
You know, certain teams have a lot of success, okay,
and there are certain teams that have a few more

(01:48:54):
than others. But still, Detroit's got a couple that I
think are good at both areas. Brock writes more of
a blocker, but you still trust him on the receiving
end for sure. And Sam Reporter does both really well.
Like when people got when Hockinson was traded, people wondered,
I said, Sam Laport is a much better blocker than
t J. Hockinson, and they're both really good catching the football.

Speaker 9 (01:49:14):
As soon as I saw Sam Report had success over
the middle early in the game, I was like, I
can hear ship in my ear right now. Well, I
told you that, you know, you get the port over
the middle, it's gonna hit.

Speaker 10 (01:49:24):
What I thought in the game was on the fourth down,
DJ Reid jumped, but he didn't didn't hurt us in
the end. But I saw DJ jump and I go,
I can just picture Brayley. Don't jump.

Speaker 8 (01:49:36):
Don't jump. You're talking about you.

Speaker 10 (01:49:40):
Can have your parking spot. You can have a parking spot.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
Don't jump.

Speaker 9 (01:49:44):
You know you know what I love about you? Remember that.
That's exactly what how thember.

Speaker 10 (01:49:49):
And then what I also remembered was the moment we
got in the red zone. I guess who came in
the game.

Speaker 8 (01:49:54):
I know he didn't get a target, but he got
in the game, started the game.

Speaker 9 (01:49:58):
He was he was they started, they started gaming trips,
so he technically got to start yesterday. But yeah, they
read zone and they gave a shot. They threw one
shot on the third and it was like third and fifteen. Yes,
they gave him shot. He gave a better shot. He
would have a chance, but it's coming. It is coming.

Speaker 8 (01:50:15):
Do we have any anything in the mail bag before
we get out of here?

Speaker 11 (01:50:19):
We do, actually, And this one was an interesting one
because I thought this a couple of times to look
like different sets and plays or even blocking schemes.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
TJ.

Speaker 11 (01:50:27):
Welmo says, I don't understand the nuance of blocking schemes,
but watching Gibbs not have a lot of room versus
holes the pass, is it possible to employing different blocking
schemes for the two?

Speaker 9 (01:50:40):
Maybe slightly. I think a lot of times the ones
that I talk about with Dave Montgomery, they were zone runs.
They took advantage of him being a.

Speaker 8 (01:50:46):
Bigger Can you explain that for folks? What's the zone run?

Speaker 15 (01:50:50):
All?

Speaker 13 (01:50:50):
Right?

Speaker 9 (01:50:50):
Zone runs? Usually, if you're gonna left, it's going to
be the center and guard the center in your left guard,
kick out on the guy and get a double team
the linebacker to get up to the linebacker level. And
then if it's on the right side, the same thing.

Speaker 8 (01:51:01):
They're taking an area specific guy taking area zone.

Speaker 9 (01:51:05):
That's what the zone is. And then what demon's job
is is to find the little sliver of space if
you will, and be physical in that, and that's what
he did. But he's such a gifted runner. He's just
not a physical running back. He's got some wiggle too,
and you saw a little bit of that. I think
they're still figuring it out how they're gonna work it
with Jamiir because it is a little different when he's
in there right now. And that's kind of what I
was talking about after the Chicago game. I said, the

(01:51:27):
line did it. I said the line did okay in
the Russian game, but it's still not there yet. They
figured out for David Montgomery in that zone block scheme's
still trying to figure out what they're gonna do with
deep excuse me, with Jamir because a lot of the
stretched stuff on the right side what was good last
year stretch zone runs.

Speaker 8 (01:51:42):
I love what Charles put in the chat. He said, hey,
kool Aid minus Cunningham in Glasgow, and I know he
was thinking as soon as he put Cunningham, Koolaid, I
love this one. I can't wait to read it. He
put Cunningham, but he didn't put Zack Cunningham. He wanted
kool Aid to think it was k cunning set up.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
It was the setup he was trying to saw the
bay dropped in the water. I was like, you know what, man,
But just.

Speaker 9 (01:52:08):
Think about this conversation as a whole. We're sitting here
talking about game balls for the Detroit Lions versus the
Baltimore Ravens on the road in Baltimore, and we're literally
naming everybody that played. Like, doesn't that feel good?

Speaker 5 (01:52:20):
It feels great?

Speaker 4 (01:52:21):
That was one of those games.

Speaker 11 (01:52:22):
That's how I felt when we watched that Package game.
It just felt like I remember sitting here at the
watch party the guys like at halftime, I asked KG, like, Bro,
is this really happening?

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
And it was just a complete dominance.

Speaker 11 (01:52:32):
Even if the score wasn't something like, you know, astronomical,
you could tell that the Detroit Lions had control of
the game. And last night from the beginning where they
got Jayme involved early. They must be watching Brothers Break downstairs.
The end where Dan Campbell said we're ending this on
our terms, it just felt like they had every counter.
It felt like they had every play. And to hear

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even the Ravens talk about it, you know, Lamar Jackson say, Bro,
their schemes were it. And then here the other players
kind of be phuttled.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
I like it.

Speaker 8 (01:53:02):
And the Lions have now won four straight Monday Night
football games twelve Dan Campbell is eleven and two in
primetime games and eight and two on Monday night football.
Pretty cool, And they do have another one coming up shortly.
Victory formation is the best formations when amen. When they're
at Philadelphia on November sixteenth, they will play a Sunday

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night game and they are Monday night football. There's I
think there's another Sunday night football game against Kansas City.
And are they Monday night football against Tampa.

Speaker 9 (01:53:36):
I believe Monday night football against Tampa. Here here correct.
Philly is a win, by the way, Philly is a win.

Speaker 8 (01:53:44):
Philly was was a little I don't know what it's
going to be like because it's it's middle of November
and I can't I can't look that far ahead. But
they were a little susceptible. You like the Rams. We
talked to briefly about this yesterday. You like the Rams
A lot Ram should have won that game. They were
twenty six.

Speaker 9 (01:54:02):
You remember last week where I ranked the Eagles. I
didn't rank the Eagles first or second, or third or fourth,
and I ranked them fifth, like I noticed a lot
of weaknesses in their game. They finally tried to get
aj Brown going a little bit, but that's still if
if you will say Kwon Barkley hasn't been the say
Kwon Barkley. I think Lane Johnson is out not playing
the same defense, has shown a little bit of susceptibility.
Like you said, so you won last year, you give

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the credit in the beginning, you start want to know,
but you start to pay attention after week three. They're
no world beaters.

Speaker 8 (01:54:32):
No, it is different when you think they're a better team. Yeah, defensively, yeah,
it's it's much different when you're being hunted rather than,
you know, constantly trying to prove. What I love most
about Detroit's win last night, or one of the things
I love most about the Troit is that they've proved
that they can they can handle some changes. You know,

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they lose a guy like Marcus Stavenport said, which you
want about him only two games last year, two games
this year. Will he come back? It's going to be
a while, would be the guess. But they lose the
starting defensive end and they replace him and don't skip
a beat. They haven't started with one of the best
DT's in all the football. They haven't really skipped much
of a beat. They lose two coordinators, they haven't skipped

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much of a beat. They're on the road after losing
on the road at the beginning of the year against
a high quality team. They don't really skip a beat.
You said before the season began, I want to see
the Lions beat a team that is super Bowl quality
and beat them in a big time game. And that's
what they proved to you last night. Unless you don't

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think a third week of the season is big enough.

Speaker 9 (01:55:38):
No, it's an ajor game. And they won. They won handily.
They beat the you know what and keep talking about that.
The six game was the thing for me. It was
the first six games. What did that record look like
after the first six games? You knew you had to
play Baltimore, you had to play Kansas City, you knew
you had to play Cincinnati, you have to play a
good defensive line in the Cleveland Browns, and you knew
you had to play the Bucks. The Bucks just win games.
Baker Mayfield is a SOB. He will final ways to win.

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When it's a minute thirty seve is left. I had
them going five and one I believe it or not.
We did the show. The only loss I had in
was Baltimore, so I didn't have the green Bay loss.
I had them beating green Bay winning, and everyone else
except Baltimore. Right now, they beat Baltimore. Now look at it. Now,
Cincinnati has no quarterback. Now the Bucks, they lose more
defensive linemen than the detroitsday last year. And Mike EVAs

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and Mike Evans will be out that game. And then
it was the other can see the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
Are you scared of that?

Speaker 9 (01:56:27):
Shoot? They're coaching their best. Two players don't even like
each other right now. So it's all about playing. When
the season happened, we sit here, we talk about this
on paper before the season. Well, it's this game, and
it's that coaching, it's this player, and you gotta go
see Joe Burrow. When the season starts, it changes. This
has become a different team, and this is becoming different
looking schedule.

Speaker 8 (01:56:45):
That's why I don't play the schedule game, smart man. Okay,
although I did have US, I have Detroit five and one,
and I had them losing the Baltimore game two and
not the green Bay game obviously, But the reason I
don't play the schedule game is because so many things
can change Burrow being out. If you would have had
an l next to the Cincinnati Bengals game, not that
we did, but if you would have had that, it

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completely changes your mindset. If you were playing San Francisco
and they Mac Jones was pretty good last.

Speaker 5 (01:57:13):
Sunday, but.

Speaker 8 (01:57:17):
No Kittle and no really good players, a lot of
their best players.

Speaker 9 (01:57:23):
Like fantasy football, Christy McCaffrey.

Speaker 8 (01:57:25):
You see what I'm saying. So that's why it's it's
tough to play that schedule game. So I agree that
kool aid before we're out of here. Anything else?

Speaker 4 (01:57:32):
Yes, you know, we got one more here? Uh, let
me see where to go? Oh, here we go. Clem
Vincent wants to know him by.

Speaker 9 (01:57:41):
Clem Vincent, like Clemson cle Vincent.

Speaker 11 (01:57:45):
He wants to know a little bit of NFC North flavor.
Are the Vikings legit? And there was another one as well,
just if you could piggyback on that. Who needs to
win more? The Ravens or the Chiefs.

Speaker 8 (01:57:58):
That's a great question.

Speaker 10 (01:58:00):
I would say the Chiefs because of the division.

Speaker 8 (01:58:03):
I would say the Chiefs because of how good the
Chargers are off to such a wonderful start. I think
the Raiders, even though they're the worst team in the division,
are better than the worst team in the AFC North.
I would say Kansas City, especially because you know it's
also at home, so that's a big deal.

Speaker 9 (01:58:23):
I would say that the Minnesota Bankans are as really
as they were last year. I'm not saying they're gonna
win fourteen games, but they're gonna compete because at the
end of the day, when you have a quarterback like
Carzon wins and you have a team that's that good,
he's just not gonna muck it up. And that could
have a coach Kevin o'connam, a former teammate, another former teammate,
So uh, they'll still go eleven and six.

Speaker 8 (01:58:43):
So they're the third best team in the division. You
and I thought you thought Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota, Chicago.
I thought Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Chicago. It's not all
that surprising to me what Minnesota's done, and and the
win against Cincinnati, as impressive as it may be, it's
not overly impressive because since I was playing with Jake
Browning and we didn't think a whole lot of the
Bengals before the years began.

Speaker 9 (01:59:03):
What was the other question, who needs a bigger win? Oh,
that's actually an easy question. Like I think you guys
all got it wrong. It's the Ravens, because the Ravens
haven't when's last time you've seen the Ravens one and four.
When's the last time you've seen Lamar Jackson respawn from
four game loss, or Derrick Henry or John Harboy as
his coaching staff they have. This is they're entering dangerous territory.

Speaker 8 (01:59:25):
We could say the same thing about the Chiefs when
the last time they were.

Speaker 9 (01:59:27):
Oh yeah, three years ago when everybody thought they were
done and they won the Super Bowl, Like, remember you
don't remember that?

Speaker 8 (01:59:32):
Well, I know they starting out owen three. It's the
first time that Patrick Mahmes has done that since Texas.

Speaker 9 (01:59:38):
True, but they look they look they look like they
do now in twenty twenty two when they won it.
I watched that first nine ten weeks of the season.
They looked horrible and they found themselves at the end
because they still have Patrick Mahomes, you still have Andy Reid,
and then they bring some players back, They make some
trades and make some moves. This is new territory. For Baltimore. Gotcha, Hey,
Baltimore is going thirteen wins every year. Yeah, twelve wins

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every year, Like they're losing one game and then winning
two three, losing one game and winning three to four
in dangers and three in a row.

Speaker 8 (02:00:07):
Yeah. I get what you're saying, and I don't think
it's necessarily wrong, but I think Baltimore has a wider
margin of error because in their division. Because of their
division overall, Kansas City has to keep pace with the
team that's setting the pace and it's considered one of
the better teams in the league right now, the Los
Angeles Chargers. Thanks to everybody for the chat. I really

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Right here, I wonder what position will be talking about
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