Detroit Lions DOMINATE NFC North Rankings! | Braylon Edwards Show with Shep I August 13th, 2025

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Speaker 4 (00:49):
We are super fired up here on a Tuesday with
the Brailan Edwards Show. I'm Matt Shephard, kool Aid is here,
Ricky is here. We are back in the studio. This
is awesome stuff. I can't wait to play you some
of the fantastic sound and the connectivity of the Detroit Lions.
Another reason why this team is going to be successful.
But speaking of successful, how about Brayln Edwards and his

(01:13):
team winning a golf tournament today.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
And you know what, I know, the people don't want
to hear about that. They want to hear about Isien
Tesla and Dan Campbell when the sound we had their
training camp that season, the Detroit Pistons and all the
love that they're getting from the national media that kool
Aid to share with us.

Speaker 6 (01:29):
The Detroit Tigers are another.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Oh, by the way, the Detroit Tigers are fifth in
the last fourteen games in the MLB. Just like Chef
told is be patient, be kind, be relaxed. So that's
what they want to hear about. They don't want to
hear about my team going fifteen under through fifteen holes.
While I was there, I had to get out because
I did have to do a show. Hence the name
on there with my guys. Chef right here.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
And it's by the way, what he did was not
on an easy course, No it's not. I think Northfield
Hills is challenging.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
It's a very challenging course, like the green and the topography,
very sneaky. It's a lot of tough putts out there.
Like with a putt that you think it'll be just
a cup out, it's a little bit more than and
it's gonna be left to right sneaky. It was a
straight putt. That's how those greens are. But the good
news is I was with Bob Kraus, who is one
of my golf instructors. Appreciate you, Bob, as well as

(02:18):
my got William Freeman. Both of those guys are tour
in the handicaspy.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
I figured out the secrets.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
I figured out the no no, But this is what
these guys do. All the that I play in people say, hey, Brailyn,
this is what the cause is for. We would like
you to come out and support. Would you be a celebrity.
It's not a problem. I love what the cause is.
I'll support whatever is as long as it's something that
fits my wheelhouse morale. They put me on a team
with a bunch of bums. A lot of times I'm

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playing with guys that I cannot golf, but they spent
the most money to get my service, to play with
the celebrity or to be close to somebody with the
Michigan or in the NFL. So guys end up being great.
Girls into being great. It's your great round. But I'm
playing with guys that care more about what they're playing
with versus can they get the ball on.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
Two and two shots?

Speaker 5 (03:07):
So today I got to pick the team. I got
the hand picked the guys, so you got two sticks
playing with you. It brings out the best in you
and me and my father.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
We hit the putts, we had to, We hit the chips,
we had to h every once in a while, we
hit the drive that we had. I don't know they're
doing all that and now it's still going on, so
they're gonna get all that. I'm more excited about the
skin side of it because I did buy into the
skins for eight dollars for the team. We eagled one, two,

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three holes, and then we buried pretty much everything else.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
There was a purchase of a.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Zero on the part of three, So I want you
guys to be okay, that kind of makes sense. I
want it. It's fair. It was a fair round. Two
guys that can play really good. We purchased a zero.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
So just about everybody does. They're gonna purchase the zero.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
You want to hold that against it if you want
to give us a par on that?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, fifteen, Yeah, that's that's pretty damn good. Just real quick,
I know people want to get into football, and so
do you, and so do I.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
The studio me too.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I love it being back talk about it, Ricky is
all about the comfort. I actually, I will say this,
I love being on remotes because I like meeting people
and it's uh. When you're at a golf course, it's
fun to envision your play out there. But I do

(04:34):
want to ask you just one quick question about your
on whole number one. It's a it's a right man.
You can see that's right. How'd you drive that pole?
Because that can be a challenge.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Randomly, I always drive that one, well, really randomly. I
always drive out well. I play that one to the
left of the tower, clip the you know the tree line,
trees right there.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
I always go just to left front.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
I usually end up just in the rough, off the green.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Or off off excuse.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Me, or on the other side of the fairway friends,
right around the foreside.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Congratulations, appreciate that I have pictures. I will say this,
you should be pretty damn good for as much golf
as you play.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
This is fair and I am not. I am not
what I should. This is fair and what you.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
Said yesterday, you've been playing out of scrambles.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
So that's a good point. That's a really good point.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
I'm older to scrambled. I'm to the point now where
I'm starting to play some better golf on my own.
I enjoy hitting my own ball. I enjoy working on
my game, pulling out all the clubs in my bag.
You get tired of just swinging the driver and go
for the fence and oh here's you know, you're only
using four clubs. I said this the last four days
and talking about golf. I hate it. I'm swinging out

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of my shoes. I can't get into any type of
rhythm it. You know, it weighs on your mental a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
You ever feel when when people want to play with you,
which is quite a compliment, do you feel like you
have to to show them something they have to perform
to a certain extent otherwise you're writting them down.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
I still do.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I just I just approach it differently now. Like they
want to see, you know, the six four, two hundred
and twenty five pound guy. They want to see me
knocked the ball four hundred miles And that's what I
used to go to the course for. I want to
get to the course. I want to show you how
far I can hit the ball you drive for show.
Driving means absolutely nothing.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
I'm to the point where I could care less if
I hit a If I duff one to the left
or to the right, or hit one down in the middle,
I don't care. I want them to see me soft
hands with the shorter shots the sixty, and then I
want to see soft hans the putting. I want to
see no deceleration in my swing.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I want them to see that. So I want them
to see the.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Fact that I know the game and I'm respecting the
game and trying to get better.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, I say the only the only thing I would
say about the driving, at least for me, is that
if if I'm constantly two hundred yards away, this is
where I think driving does matter. I'm not expecting people
I play with to mash it over three hundred yards
because that just doesn't happen very often. I know people
think it does, but it really doesn't. But I would

(07:06):
like to be you know, a six iron away, gotcha,
you know what I mean, instead of being a hybrid
away yeah?

Speaker 7 (07:14):
Or three wood yeah yeah, or three wood.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
So we'll have to get out there. I'm happy for you.
That's awesome. I'm glad you had another warm day. That's
back to back warm days. I hope you're hydrating.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Because I'm out, like Wesley Snipes.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
In a minute, what's that.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
I'm about to lit like Wesley Snipes.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean it's I'm telling you, man, it's something
else out there. Hey, So I had a corporation for everybody, right,
same you.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
As we get to we get rolling a little bit.
I got a new neighbor. I wanted to ask you, guys.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
Neighbors are tricky.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah. I mean I my wife does a great job.
She goes next door right away. I welcome. Do you
take new neighbors gifts to welcome them to the neighborhood?
And I don't mean wrapping a gift, and I'm talking
about Hey, here's a bottle of wine. Here's some homemade cookies.
Ricky loved my wife's homemade cookies when I brought them in. Here,

(08:06):
there we go, here's some brownies. Do you is that
still a thing? We've done that before? Do you guys
believe in that type of welcoming gift?

Speaker 5 (08:16):
If you will, it's not a thing anymore. This is
a completely different generation. Than yours. It's a completely different
generation than mine. Realistically, they don't do gifts anymore. I
would urge people to do that. You know how hard
it is to find good neighbors, and you know how
easy it is to have a beef with neighbors. You know,

(08:37):
currently in the whole situation with next door neighbor without
too much information, where there's a lawsuit opinion, there's a
lawsuit that was drawn. So to get in situations like that,
you don't want to if you could, you know, help
that situation.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Yeah, start off.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Friendly, you know, go over there and bring whatever it is.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
It can be a bottle of wine.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
It's not gonna cost you anything more than fourteen ninety nine,
eleven ninety nine and eighteen ninety nine, depending on where
you're shopping at.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Basket of fruit.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
It just shows a gesture like this house next to me,
across the street, whatever it is in relation. These people
are cool, they get it. I can be cool with
these people, and I think you de arm them.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
That's all I want.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
I want people that live in my area that are
good people, that know I don't mean any harm. We
don't mean any harm.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
And if I'm doing something that you don't like, let
me know, and if it's a right with you, I'm
going to do the same thing. If your dog's barking
at eleven thirty at night, I'm going to come home
and say, hey, do you mind taking them inside? That
was my last neighbor. The dog's barking constantly, like from
quarter to nine till eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
The stuff, but the gift allows that you bring the
gift in the initial period and then you get to
the point now where the dog is barking uncontrollably weak.
Two of you've been there. If I come over to
your house and say, hey, you know, I know you
just moved in. No, no, I remember, bray, how you doing.
We appreciate the gifts that you got it. I appreciate that,
no problem. Want to welcome you in. But dogs little loud.
You know, I got a routine and I get in. Yeah,

(10:00):
now that energy is met with. I didn't come to
the door. This guy tried to tell me turn my
tell the dog to go inside. He tried to tell
me what to do with my animal. No, he came
over here, was respectful, he was polite. Put the dog
in the basement of every what you doing them.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
I think that's how you get better results.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Just a little of branch in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah, I mean how you'd want to be treated. I
would guess Ricky does that. Ricky would be the kind
of guy I think who would have more of a
tendency to go next door and say, hey, man, just
want to welcome you to the neighborhood.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
I'm yes and no at the same time. So my neighbors,
I have dope neighbors. I know my neighbors, especially with
the kids. We all know each other. My neighbor next
door is a single guy. He's super cool. We texted
stuff like that. But my neighbors on the other side,
when they first moved in, they didn't move like completely
move in. They were doing a bunch of construction, but
they would do it at night. And I had a
newborn at the time, so we didn't know who actually

(10:52):
lived there because those people going in and out. So
now they lived there, and we still haven't went over
there because my wife has been so mad at how
many times they walk up my daughter. So I'm kind
of in the same boat as you, and I've never
spoken like we walked past each other. We literally share
a driveway and don't talk. Really yeah, but neighbor on
the other side and across the streets.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
Super cool.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
What's it going to take for you to extend his
Britlant put extend that that olive branch and talk to him.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
Some situations to where I can't avoid not speaking to.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
I know it surprises me a little bit. I mean,
Ricky's just a fun, loving guy. But I never knew Ricky.
It was like, hey, man, what's going on? How are you?
I'm Ricky, Ricky?

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Can I say this what I'm saying too much?

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Ricky?

Speaker 6 (11:35):
I know the area.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
If that's fair enough to say that Ricky lives in
leave it that it's an interesting area, has interesting people
grew up there.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
I'll say, I'm okay with saying where I live. You
said what I'm okay with?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Say are you in the hills?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Why I said, I'm okay. I'm okay with saying where
I live in the hill up there? Too?

Speaker 6 (11:55):
True?

Speaker 5 (11:56):
I know that. But like we're our areas specifically, we're
it's you can get in five houses, you can get
five completely different energies, energies in what you don't want
to speak to energies that don't make you feel like
you can extend that olive branch. And it's on a
day to day basis, like it's a it's an interesting
area if well. So that's why I'm saying to his point,

(12:17):
why he hasn't done it yet, that energy and where
you you gotta feel something to do with You got
to feel something welcoming enough for you to say, you
know what, this basket is gonna be okay, this bottle
of wine is gonna be okay, or you know whatever
you want to bring. If you don't feel that energy,
I don't care how nice you are.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
I don't care how good of a person you are.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
If you don't get that energy, I don't want.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
To say open myself up to it.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
Better way to say, yeah, Like I disagree with that.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
The energy is different because, like I said, across the
street is cool there that the neighbors diagonal don't like them.

Speaker 7 (12:51):
Just don't get to buy. There's another couple on the
other this older guy the other way.

Speaker 8 (12:56):
First time I met him, tried to walk in my
backyard when I was getting trees cut down.

Speaker 7 (12:59):
Don't talk to them.

Speaker 8 (13:00):
That was where like it's literally, like you said, it's
a house by house basis for me.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, it's it can be a very interesting scenario when
you're when you're in those What we did is we
immediately said, because we had two new neighbors move in,
we said, okay, we're going to have just a little
gathering at our house.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So we invited six or three couples, okay, two of
who are new, and we just wanted to say hey,
just you know, just appetizers and drinks, just wanted to
say hello to everybody. And you know, not that we
see eye to eye on everything, but at least we're
still cordial, at least were still friendly. Two couples, for sure,
we're really friends and we do quite a bit with them.

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And I think that helped open that door. If you
don't take the step, if you don't take that first step,
then you're asking or expecting the other people to do that,
and that might be a little bit of a challenge.
And if you take that first step and it doesn't
work out, at least you tried.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
It's the way I kind of look at it the
next door neighbor situation saw about it. I was talking
about how you can have a different house, like there's
one neighbor to our, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
One neighbor next to us. Nice guy, Never see him.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
He's a pilot, like I don't know anything about him
outside and he's a pilot for adulta. Never see him,
don't know what he is outside of that.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Nice guy.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Nice guy. Our house, fun, loving with great, great energy.
It's what we are. The very next house is the
house to suit us over Land, which we're in a
case about that. Now, straight ahle, same guy that we
used to be friends with, com in the backyard. You know,
tell us about how much you love Dipsett because he
went to Maryland and its popular. He and his white

(14:38):
well because now you.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
Know, you know his white super cool.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
But that's how we introduced herself, so you already know
what it was.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Then got cool enough to invite us to the wedding,
to the baby shower in which we went to the
baby shower event. This is a great event, baby shower event.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Thought we were cool.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
And then a few months later it comes lossuit and
then the house next to him as a lady you
never see overweight lady struggles with some anxiety, maybe some depression,
never cuts her grass like the house is a complete mess,
but the city as well as him. They don't talk
to her. She has her ways, if you will. It's
just an interesting hot.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Spot, quite a dynamic. Yeah yeah, well, uh, we'll see
how it goes on. I'll report back, all right, I
see what happens.

Speaker 7 (15:24):
With Maybe I should extend to Olive Branch.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
I keep trying him to come over to, you know
and indulge in some some some adult smoke.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
They don't want that out.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
A little bit them out exactly.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
I'll tell you what, if you bring Brailyn with you
and introduce yourself to the neighbor you don't talk to,
that might cut that that thick air if you will
with them pretty quick now.

Speaker 8 (15:47):
But then he expect me to bring people over all
the time. All my other friends are just normal guys.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
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That's all that really matters.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
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There are so many different storylines in NFL camps. As
I used to prepare for Lions football, it would be,
you know, you're trying to talk to ninety guys and
you're trying to get the backstory of just about everyone,
because those are the things you bring up. At least
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that really stand out. And one of the guys who
stands out right now is Isaac Tasla. And it's not
just because he's from the state of Michigan, not because
he just played at Hillsdale and went D two to
D one to Arkansas, and not just because he's a
third round pick. It's because he has performed. You don't

(21:41):
give things to players if the player isn't ready to
receive it. I remember the story of Jim Leland in
two thousand and six, when Justin Verlander and Joel Zamaya
were having great camps, and people said, are you really
going to take those guys north through the He said,
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be looking at me and like, what the hell do
you have to do? Now? This guy's gonna make the team.
That's obvious. And I love this picture because if you notice,
the finger on the football is just like Braylan Edwards
finger on the football when he was with the Jets,
and he showed us last week.

Speaker 7 (22:20):
I would actually say that finger still like that.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
I would actually say it was actually a little bit
better because the four point suppressor, he's.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
Actually got the last one. See he's got the ball
into the bicep.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
And also you don't see the ball it's on the forearm,
it's on the bicep. He's got the point of the football,
and he's got against the body. He's got all four points.
On that picture, I kind of had a little bit
loose as it was next to the bicep. You can
see a little bit of space in there. But this
is this is perfect.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
It's a great look at the only the only problem
with the picture is you should be seventeen instead of eighteen.
But let's not get.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Too I don't know if.

Speaker 9 (22:58):
I good looking be easy, you.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
Know that's the original.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
I don't say it because I let Easy shout out
to the heavyweights, you know, five to seven every day.
I let him have easy. So I don't say anymore,
but I'm be easy.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
It goes back to the middle school, all the way
back there.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
It does. Okay, well he has you know, he's going
to make this team. The question is whether or not
he's going to start from day one. It wouldn't surprise
me if he did. But they are raving about him
in camp.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
They're raving by him because he's making plays. You know.
One of the biggest things that you know, when we
were talking about as I love chefs standing up.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
That's a good vibe right there. That's good.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Injury, it looks like I'm still sitting down bad my bad.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
I ain't mean to point that out. You want to
see players that get drafted in the mid rounds. You
want to see him make plays when given opportunities to
go against him the ones go against a tearing on,
go against to DJ Reed, go against Amiic Rominson, go
against whoever. You want to see him make players. You
want to see him stand out, and he's been doing
that all camp long. And then once the preseason starts,

(24:04):
we're gonna put you in there and give you opportunity
to make a play. He's got two touchdowns and two games.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Do you guys, you guys recognize it? I mean, is
it very similar to the story I just told about
Leland and ver Leander and Zamaiya. Are you guys when
you're at camp you recognize certain players standing out.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
You can see the guys that are getting better. You
can see the guys that want to make a play,
because at first, you just want to see a guy
make a play.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
You don't care if you just.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Going there, if you're line up wrong, you know, you
don't get your depth. You know you may even run
the wrong route. Can you make a play? The balls
in the air? Do you take the ball? Do you
make a play? Do you get the first down? Do
you get an end zone? We can fix the little things.
Do you play full speed? Are you coachable? You know
when we tell you something, Hey, that route is eighteen

(24:49):
yards coming back to sixteen? Are you getting sixteen and
coming back to fourteen? And then after we tell you,
are you getting sixteen and coming back to fourteen are
now you're getting the eighteen yards and I think you've
seen a mixture of that from Isaac Tesla.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Side note, same.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Birthday as Justin Verlin, since you brought up justin Verland
February twenty on February twenty first, so I tend to
keep a close ye that on all the February babies.
Michael Jordan, you know what I'm saying. Seventeen anyway, but
he's getting better each day in practice, in the games,
he's getting better. I saw him and look a little better,
look a little more polished running rout, So that's what
you want to see. It's still as early. I don't

(25:25):
think he'll be starting day one. I don't think he'll
start by the time Game four happens. I think it
is still Tim Patrick. Tim Patrick is a damn good
number three in this league. That's why they chose to
retain him. And I don't think you can understate the
relationship that Jared Golf and Tim Patrick built last year.
Jared Goff is won. It takes a second for Jared
Goff to trust.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
You, and he hasn't played with at least during preseason
games during practice, but he hasn't played.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
With that and so I think that will take some time.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
But just what you want to see out of him
out of Arkansas, a guy that didn't necessarily start, wasn't
taking all the reps, wasn't a guy that was the.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Feature, but made a lot of players.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Now, can you take the playmaking ability that you had
at Arkansas? Can you take that and now can you
put some route running with it? Can you put some
concept knowledge with it? And I think that's what this
process is for him. Why does the two yards matter?

Speaker 4 (26:11):
You said, are you running at eighteen and coming back
to sixteen or are you running at sixteen coming back
to fourteen? Why is that two yard difference a big
deal to.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Be Because that eighteen yards versus sixteen yards, not only
does it get your catch and it gets your first down.
What extends the drive, extends Jared Goff, extends Johnny Morton's
opportunities to call some players for Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
It's also not a pick.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
It's also not a linebacker stepping into a window because
you came too short. Now you're supposed to be at eighteen,
you're at sixteen. The linebacker dropped a little bit, so
now he's in that window. Now he's getting a pick
or the safety read it saw your body language. It
didn't believe that you were going to go deeper, so
he cut the route. Now you got to pick six.
So that depth is very crucial to the quarterback. And

(26:57):
if you can't get your depth as a wide receiver,
guess who's not throwing you the ball. Guess who's not
gonna play you. So it's very important to be able
to get your depth because you help the quarterback and
the offense.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
It's a domino effect. That's a really good explanation. Speaking
of playing him, Dan Campbell and John Morton will be
in charge of deciding. That's Scotty Montgomery too, the wide
receivers coach. Who one of the many things, and then
we'll get to the Den Campbell. The Dan Campbell sound
bite on Isaac Teslough one of the many things I

(27:28):
like about Dan Campbell, and I think this stems from
him being assistant coach too, and probably being a tight
end who let's face it, they don't get a lot
of love usually, at least when he played the love
came to the guys like you or at wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
He wasn't the type of titi end to get the
love back when he played. Were talking about a different
type of tiny end. Dallas Clark was getting that love.
Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates shout out to him, Detroit Hall
of Fame. Now those were the guys that were getting
the love, didn't.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Cample was a blocking title as much as anything else.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
And oh, here, by the way, he's in you know,
third and go not expecting here's a little here's a
little play acts a little pop pass.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
That's right right, He's he's not beating anybody on any
type of steam route. But the thing I like about
him is his willingness to recognize his assistant coaches. He's
done a great job of that, and I think the
coaches appreciate that. When we talk about players wanting to
play for a guy, and I think you're the kind
of guy who would want to play for a Dan

(28:26):
Campbell like coach. But how about the coaches who want
to coach for a guy because he's making sure they
get their flowers. He's saying to Calvin Shepard, Hey, you
don't don't you dare cut those dreads. You be who
you are. John Morton's a smart guy. I trust him.
He talks about Scotty Montgomery and the influence that he
has on the wide receivers already, and I bet you

(28:48):
that makes a big deal to them too, because eventually
Britlan they want jobs, they want head coaching gigs. How
do you get head coaching gigs? You got to be recognized,
and Dan Campbell helps them in that regard.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
I think, first of all, you got coach, you gotta
be able to do. You gotta do your job. Scotty
Montgomery went from the running back room to the wide
receivers room. You gotta do your job. You have to
make sure that the wide receivers, especially the younger ones,
the lovetts, the test lies. You got to make sure
that they're prepared when they step on the practice field.
They know the install they know what the players are,
they know the depth, they know the routes and know
the things.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
That's what your job is to prepare.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Everybody asking how is the running back coach going to
help the receivers. At the end of the day, receivers,
you got to this level. You're in the NFL. Now
you're a professional leve to get drafted, to get picked up,
to get bought in, to be in this room to
have this success. All the coaches there to do is
to teach you the concepts. This is how Johnny Mo

(29:42):
plans for you to execute this offense. This is what
number sixteen is expecting. So that's what he teaches. When
you have an off pro wide receiving room in amar
Ros Saint Brown, when you have an ascending wide receiver
who's learned under amar Ron Saint Brown and Jamison Williams
and oh, by the way, you know what he is
and Patrick etcetera. They're the guy that's kind of helping
the young guys in this room. I'mar Roz the leader

(30:05):
of that room. You don't need Scotty Montgomery to come
in and be some formal wide receiver that can coach
you like Marvin Harris.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
You don't need that. You just need concepts.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
He's there for that, and you need a leader of men,
and that's what he's been. Dan Campbell empowers his coaches.
And it's important because the players see that Dan Campbell
was saying this and believe this.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Now they have.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
To trust that. Why not believe in ahead, man, I
know I trusted Dan Camplllen. I'm excited to be here,
so I have to trust that what he's telling me
about my coach is true, especially if I see it.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, and I love the fact that there's other players
helping them as well. A great sound bite, and I
mean it great. I try not to use that word
very often from Giovanni Mane who was talking about the
assistance that Aiden Hutchinson gives him. And it's one of
the many things I love about the Lions. But we'll
get to that coming up. But first, Dan Campbell on

(30:56):
Isaac Teslaw and the impact that he's made on this
co coaching staff, in this team so far.

Speaker 14 (31:02):
Well, I thought he played better than he did the
first week, you know, and I would say ever since
we put pads on, uh, he's been trending this way,
you know. So that's a good sign, is that you're
getting better with pads on than the pajamas. So that
was awesome. He's doing well, man. He's he blocks on
the perimeter, he's making big catches over the top of people.

(31:24):
You know, he's going up. His route detail is getting
that much better. Scotty's doing a heck of a job
with him and all those guys. So he's growing. That's
more than this. It's more like this.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
So he mentioned Scotty Montgomery again.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
I love that and I appreciate that, and I know
the wide receivers appreciate that as well. Now he can
tap into their coach and he's getting to just do
and he's getting in love. That's also how you get
the elevation. That's also how other coaches around the league
when they're looking, you know how we're looking for a
new offensive coordinator. Who are the new hot names, who
is the new position who the guys are the leaders
of their position room that we may elevate. That's how

(32:03):
you get that.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
You know what I really like about Dan Campbell and
it seems like his staff and I don't I'm not
gonna claim to know him. Okay, I know a lot
of Lions coaches in the past, but he seems very
secure in his job in the sense that he's giving
the responsibility and that's an important word, the responsibility to

(32:24):
the right guys. In the past, we've seen certain coaches.
I don't know if it's Jimmy Johnson, I don't know
if it's Sean McVay. I don't know Sean Payton, Bill
Parcells who are afraid to relinquish the type of say
in a game plan or how a team is built
because they wanted to be that guy. He seems like

(32:46):
a guy who's willing to say, you know what, I'm
gonna have that final say. Yeah, But I trust John Morton,
I trust Kelvin Sheppard. I trust my coaches to make
the right choices.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
I think those guys had trust issues because there's such
savants at whatever side of the ball they're good at.
But Bill Parcells it was ative side of the ball. For
Sean mcvays, the offensive side of the ball. They're savants
like theirs sabants, and they have the mentality if I
don't do it, it's not gonna get done the right way,
and they don't want to relinquish that trust. The good
news about Dan Campbell is one in terms of that confidence,

(33:15):
and he feels like he's not going anywhere. There was
a long conversation had with she when he and Sheila
before he even got that job. He sat down they
talk at nause him about what the plan was, what
it was gonna look like, how long I have I
don't want to look, don't give me two years and
make this thing anxious. Don't give me time. That's that's
the thing he said. He say it's gonna take three

(33:36):
years his very first press conference, and I think Sheila
gave him that time. When you give someone that time,
you feel very comfortable. Now I can bring in the
right people. Going back to the conversation, he is not
the savant that Bill part says.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Is no disrespect to the big man, no disrespect.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
He's not the savant that Sean McVay is on the
off side, offensive side of the ball, and what that
does allowed him to do over the years. He knows
who he is, which is not the smartest man in
the room, which is nothing wrong with that, because the
people that can realize that, those are people that are
gonna be very successful. And he's done that since his
whole time in twenty twenty one and bringing people in.
You know what, I don't know offense, I don't think

(34:11):
Anthony and he does either let me figure this out,
figure out a system. He did that defensive coordinator no smoke,
you know what that was from jump. I think he
has an innate ability to know what he does not know,
doesn't care about being the smartest person in the room.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
Who is that person?

Speaker 5 (34:27):
Let me empower my offense with Kelvin Sheppard, Let me
empower my excuse me my defense.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
Let me empower my offense with.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Johnny mo who I vetted, who I've had in the room,
who I know the players respond to? Who will get
the best out of Jared Golf? Who will get the
best out of the coaches? Because that's what you're doing.
I think he does a really good job of that.
And so far as that's one of the things for
Dan Campbell, you can't argue. No one can argue the
fact that he hires damn well and he does not

(34:55):
mind getting rid of you if you're not done.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
You great great leaders, hire a really good people, dare
I say great people and let them do their jobs.
That's that's the reason they hired him in the first place.
Dan Campbell has done that. He's elevated guys from within.
That's a big deal if they've earned it, and he
lets them do what they're supposed to do. The trust

(35:17):
factor is without no question that the trust factor is
there from him.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
And the best thing I like about this kool A
tell me if you agree in that. I like the
fact that Dan Cambll was confident enough with hisself. Do
you know many times I saw coaches like worrying about
other coaches on that staff because those other coaches were
probably aligned for a job, whether it was offensive court,
whether it was the quarterbacks coach, whether it was the
wide receivers coach, whether it was a linebackers coach. Like,
they didn't allow those guys to fully do the job.

(35:42):
Damn sure, not those coordinators because you risked the chance.
I don't want them to leave me.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I don't want I don't want them to take my place.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
Don't I don't want.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Them to take that's the one. That's the one. I
don't want them to take that place. I saw that
in Cleveland. I saw that to an extent. I saw
it in New York. Didn't see it in Seattle because
Seattle Pete had the same mindset as Dan Campbell, like,
I'm good, I'm safe for my job. I want you
guys because Dan knows if they have no hampering, no interference,

(36:12):
they can be in their own space, their own zone.
They feel comfortable, and now they can be the best
coaches for this team. It ain't about ego. It's not
about who gets the credit. Like Dan didn't care that
Ben Johnson was run around getting all this credit. They
would call him the boy Wonder and this that and
the third. What what's his offense looking like at the time,
the best offense in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
And that's more so, everybody wins in that situation.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
When you win, everybody east being everybody. Lloyd Carr said
it all the time. He said, when the team wins,
everybody wins. I didn't understand that as a freshman. I
didn't understand that as a sophomore. But when we won
the Big Team my junior year and I saw how
many first team All Big tenders we had, when they
saw how many All Americans we had, When I saw
Chris Perry finish third in the Heisman that year, I

(36:57):
was able to understand, oh, oh, when the team wins,
everybody wins. And that's what Dan. Dan doesn't care about
the egocentric things. Dan doesn't we care about Coach of the.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Year, don't care about We talk about it all the time.
I mean, let's say something in a contract. There might
be something in a contract that says, if I get
Coach of the year I got an extra five or
a grand or something maybe I don't know, of course
one point five, yeah, something like that. How did you
recognize it when you played? And what did that do
to the uneasiness of a room and or a team.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Because the energy is off, Like it sucks being in
a hallway, and for me it was different. But let's
just say, Alan Park, it sucks being in the hallway
and rotunda and you're walking with your ride receivers coach
and your offensive coordinator walks right, but that doesn't say
anything to him.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
It sucks when coaches don't talk.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
It sucks when you're looking at the head coach that
wants to say something to his offensive coordinator but just doesn't.
And it is a miserable place to be in. I've
been there multiple times where you're just like up here
we go and you know early on in the week
and you know what that's going to be like. When
you have coaches that cool, they work with each other,
they talk with one another, they share notes with one

(38:05):
another because everybody is about the team and the winning,
it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah, I love that, I really do. I think it's
it's the part of the reason for their success.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
I had a receivers coach in Seattle that wouldn't like
he was so scared to coach. He was so scared
to get it wrong because he didn't want to get fired.
I was like, well, you're going to get fired because
you're getting it wrong quite often because you don't want
to have a conversation with your old c Was it
Darryl Darreb Bell Bevell. Darrick Bubble was an offensive coordinator
when I was in Seattle, and my wire receivers coach,

(38:35):
he was just it was It was interesting.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Daryl Bevell out of Wisconsin, Right, yeah, play played quarterback
in Wisconsin. All right, Well, we were talking about Isaac Taslaw.
Really good and insightful comment from Penney Sewel. He sat
down with somebody in ESPN recently and they asked him
about the rookie. Listen to what the one of, if
not the best right tackle in the National Football League

(38:59):
had to say about a third round pick.

Speaker 15 (39:04):
Tesla explain why I like it the way place physical.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
I'm not even talking about the receiving whim catching that
mac and.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
Block and uh.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
I like the way he attacks the that aspect of
the game. I'm really ready to put his head down
and go in there hit somebody, no block, no rock right.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
I mean, you know he's not even talking about his
receiving skills. Now it's a ligneman, So maybe it's a
little different. How many linemen used to come up to
you and say, hey man, great block, appreciate how you
how you how you're doing, how you're you, You've got
the entire game, things of that nature. Do you think
linemen were recognizing that with with with you when you

(39:43):
were playing all of them?

Speaker 5 (39:44):
Because I was I was a big wide receiver, physical
wide receiver, and I hung my hat on blocking. I
learned that from Lloyd Carr. The fastest way to get
a compliment from the coaching staff is blocked. It's it's
to do something that your job doesn't call for.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Like my job is.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Catching touchdown on the passes. And first down you go
out there and lay out of safety. You out there
and smacking linebacker. Now you're running back and get on
the outside edge and gets another twenty yards, maybe even
breaks one and go long. Remember the long run that
David Montgomery had against the Los Angeles Chargers with it
two three years ago, all we talked about was Amar
ros Saint Brownald that we didn't even talk about David
Montgomery's run. It's a seventy seven yard run on the road.

(40:20):
All we could talk about. Did you see Amar ROSSI
about finish that play? That gets offensive lineman going because
it says that I care about fifteen. I don't just
care about catching passes and being the divat that is
associated with the position. I don't mind going there and
mixing it up, and they love it.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
I used to love.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Hanging out with the line like Damian Woody. I still
talk to Damian Woody at least two three times a week.
What's going on, shout out to him. He's on the
four letters that you just saw in that interview. But
I love the injury. But they love it because it
says you yourself list and unselfish.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Right, And that's what linemen are because that's.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
The job the big uges, that's the job they have,
is a very selfless job going here and fighting these
trenches against moms like Chris Johnson and Aaron Donald and
the list goes on. So when they see a wide
receiver or they see a running back step in there.
When you see Jamiir Gibbs. Oh shoot, here comes Fred Warner.
He's free.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
What am I gonna do?

Speaker 5 (41:11):
You know what, I'm gonna go in a sacrifice my body,
pick up the blitz so Jared doesn't get hit, We
get it passed down the field. I'll worry about the
headache that I have tomorrow, you know, after we win.
It's selflessness and I think that's what Lyman appreciated about it.
Isaac test Loot, the physicality and him willing to be
able to look whatever. Throw me the ball later, let
me block for you, let me help you out well.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Speaking of Penny Seowol, it's gonna be part of Braylan's
breakdown tomorrow, so you're gonna want to watch that.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
I can't wait.

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has Speaking of wide receivers, John Morton has come out
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Speaker 4 (46:21):
See Braylin went golfing earlier today, so he ate at
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I had to brown bag it a little bit. What
I was really hoping for is that Ricky and kool
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Buddies that would bring us The brisket Buddies Pizza brew

(46:44):
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(47:05):
would like you to go pick it up if you
don't mind. Don't forget, Buddies is more than pizza. They've
got the smash stacks too. So that's where the real
tough decision for me was, do I want pizza in
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the Burger's done Detroit style. I was kind of inching

(47:26):
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Speaker 7 (47:40):
Interns, now got it? Good man?

Speaker 8 (47:42):
Back when I was an intern, a just look you
dead in the face and be like, boy, sir, I sure,
I'm hungry.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
And that was it. That was it. You had to
figure it.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
Out that it.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Let me ask you a question. Is Ricky turning old
man on us? Because he's saying back when I interned.

Speaker 7 (47:57):
Yeah, at that point, yeah, I got two kids. What
you mean I need.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
To grow up something that.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
That's crazy stuff. Man, it's come that far and it's
come and yet I bet you it feels pretty quick,
all right. John Morton is in an interesting spot because
John Morton is the new offensive coordinator. He's got to
take over. And everybody's talked about Ben Johnson and they
how much they love Ben Johnson and look at how
great this offense was, and Ben Johnson deserves a lot

(48:25):
of credit because the offense was historic in Lions history
and really, to a certain extent in some categories NFL history.
It was the reason the Lions. Is it fair to
say that it's probably the primary reason the Lions were
on so many national television games. People couldn't wait when

(48:46):
Tom Brady is on a broadcast saying I would love
to quarterback this team because of its offense. That's saying
an awful lot.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
Yeah, I was saying one of the things my dad said.
I think people pay attention to that. Yes, Ben Joannce
was really good how he plays up. Yes, Ben Johnson
created a new system here and you have some new
things grooving and shaking with the players that you had.
But he dialed up plays at the right time. The
timing part is what people don't pay attention to to
what Ben did the last two years with the Lions.

(49:15):
He died up some great plays. And I only let
trick players. It's one thing to do a trick play.
I ran a ton of trick players in my nine
years in the league, four years in Michigan, thirteen years
of college.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
A lot of trick players, you know what I mean. Actually, worked.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Meanwhile, it got to the point with the Detroit Lions,
not only did we know he was gonna call three
to four game, he's gonna hit on seventy five percent
of them.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
Some games like Green Bay you do three, you hit three.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
So I think that's something that we've never seen in
the NFL before, is how well timed trick players were,
and then how the success Reid was because he was
seventy five percent of more. So that's something that you
gotta get the man crack.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Yeah, if you'd like to get one back, it would
be the Jamison Williams pass against Washington that threw was
a pick.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Horrible play.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Horrible play not just because it didn't worry. It's because
horrible Jameson Williams and hadn't thrown a pass in the NFL.
It was just it was wrong time.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
But look, he's got two of those him and the
one and the Pina. Those are the only two where
you're like, what the f were you doing?

Speaker 6 (50:14):
Outside of that, I thing that was pretty damn good.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
No, I don't disagree. I mean, when especially when Dan
Skipper is celebrating a touchdown pass, everybody loves it, right Well,
John Morton comes into a situation where it's it's gonna
be a bit of a challenge to win people over.
Not his players, but I think fans and members of
the media. They're going to be watching him as closely
as anybody would watch maybe a first year head coach

(50:36):
in certain situations. He was recently asked, it's a really
good interview. Recently asked about the biggest tough guy that
he has ever coached. It's a former Lion. Even though
John Morton didn't coach him as a Lion. This is
what he had to say and who he compares him
to as a Lion. Now, loading up right, now, loading

(50:58):
up right now.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
I want to hear from Johnny Mon. I'll be interested
in talking to him when he had some time, we
had some time set it up or something. But you know,
he was a very interesting coach that I had, and
I spent just a season with him.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
What did you like about him and what made your want.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
His attention to detail is something that I appreciated. By
the time I got to the forty nine ers you
talk about, I was in my seventh one, two three,
I was in my seventh season, so by then I'm
a little older I'm able to understand preparation, and I'm
able to understand attention to detail and how it helps
you as a player prepared for your week. And he
was on top of things. He made sure we get
all the information. He made sure that we had it

(51:36):
as exactly like Greg Roman, who was offensive coordinator at
the time, spent some time with the Baltimore Ravens and
Lamar Jackson. He was able to tell us this is
exactly how he wants to coach it. This is what
I see. Here's where you can maybe add a little
of your own personality to some plays. This is Michael Krabtree,
him and him and Michael used to to do this,
but I think they got into a rhythm, they got

(51:57):
into a space. Obviously, you saw them have successfully in
the season as they were, we were this close from
getting to the Super Bowl. A drop, a drop punt
in the NFC Championship Game. The layedst But his attention
to detail and his ability to be able to talk
to different kinds of players.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
Because what do you mean by that?

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Just because you're a wide receiver don't mean you're the same.
Like I'm not the same as Antonio Holmes. It's not
the same as amar Ron Saint Brown, is not the
same as Calvin Johnson, is not the same as Michael Krabtree,
is not the same as Joe Hastings, who is a
scout team receiver, if you will. Also used to coach
up in Michigan. So there's different types of bodies, different
types of wide receivers, and different personalities. He was able

(52:39):
to do a good job in balancing all the personalities
and actually be able to coach h A san Antonio
Holmes who's a quicker guy who's gonna run run certain routes.
Be able to coach a Braylan Edwards who's a bigger
guy gonna be on the outside, gonna come in and
do a lot of motioning, blocking players, working on depth,
working on where you're supposed to be on the outside, upfield,
shoulder of a you know, insert the outside linebacker here.

(53:02):
He was very good at being able to conversate with
different players and very good at attention to detail. He
doesn't mind putting it in the work.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
So how does the coach I'm fascinated by that. How
does the coach go about that with you as a
receiver and trying to gain your trust that he's prepared
and will make sure you're prepared. Give us an idea
of what he's doing about that. It's got to be
more than just hey, this is a tendency.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Here right there.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
It's got to be a little bit more detailed.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
But that I think he takes the time to get
to know you, like he took the time to get
to know me. He compared his you know, he had
Central Michigan roots. That's where he played where I receive
your at so he had the central thing going on.
My brother was at Central at the time. I'm from Michigan.
You know, you kind of build a little bit of
a relationship. I think players are naturally walls up on coaches.
I think just naturally your walls up on a coach. Yeah,

(53:49):
don't they got just got Johnny Moe. Who is this guy?
Who's he thinks? And then slowly but surely what they
do to de arm you. Now you're going from who
is this guy?

Speaker 6 (53:58):
To what is he talking about?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Shoot, this is working all right?

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Cool?

Speaker 5 (54:03):
So he d army. He found that common ground.

Speaker 6 (54:07):
If you will. It was cool a little bit.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Whid receivers are fun, Like we're one of those rooms
and crack jokes where silly with goofy, So you kind
of play to that a little bit. Oh he lets
us have fun too. Here's another check for Johnny much Okay,
I like this guy a little bit. And then you
start dialing into the things like do you know what
the hell you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (54:26):
How important was it for him to allow you guys
a little bit of freedom on your routes.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
You gotta allow freedom like it's it. Football is an art,
and sport is an art, and wide receiver is one
of those positions where it's an art. It's an artsy position.
You know, you look at the outside. Your job is
to run a slant. Okay, you got three steps break,
quarterbacks gonna put the ball on you. How you get
to that spot is the freedom that a good coach

(54:53):
can allow you, as opposed to being like some of
the coaches I had, which were one two, three plant
no no no, no no, and ask you to do
all the extra stuff on your side no, no, no, no.
Too many moves at the line of scrimmage, no.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
No no no.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
If you're timing times up with the quarterback, that's all
that matters. If your timing times up, that's all that matters.
And he was a guy that said, look, you could
do what you need to do on the outside to
get open as long as you keep spacing. And two
you're not off rhythm, because if you're supposed to be
one two three slint, don't be trying one two three four.

(55:28):
Where's Brayling? Where's brayling?

Speaker 6 (55:30):
Where's he at? Where's he at?

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Here's a sack, here's an interception, here's a sack, strip
fumble like, you can't have that. And he was, as
long as you can keep spacing and you can keep
that timing, get open, because that's what the NFL has
become now what you're seeing. It wasn't like that in
twenty eleven. It was a little more strict. I mean,
unless you were Andre Johnson, unless you were Calvin Johnson,

(55:55):
unless you were Larry Fitzgerald, unless you were Chad Osho
Sinko like you know me for a couple of years,
you know, then whatever, But you know, you didn't have
that freedom. Now everybody has.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
The freedom, and Kwon Bolden apparently had some freedom to Kwan.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
Oh, that's the player.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
He was a badass, there's no doubt, tough as nails quarterback.
Built yeah, built like built like a fire hydrant. And
John Morton really appreciates him so much so that he
calls him one of the best he's ever coached and
compares a current Lion to an Kwon Bolden. Listen to this.

Speaker 16 (56:28):
Tell me why a just every day is the saying
him and I always say, you know him like he's
just saying is just like an Kin Boldens every day
is the same. It's all business.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
I'm here to work.

Speaker 16 (56:42):
I'm I'm gonna bring it every single down, whether it's
running pass, I'm gonna make you work the whole game.
I mean when you say grit, I think an Kwon
Bolden and I think a Saint Brown, literally two of
the same guys.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
That's quite a compliment, isn't it? Because A Kwon Bolden
was a tough dude man when he played. I don't
care where he played. When he played, he was a
tough dude. Baltimore, Detroit, you name it. He was.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
It funny and quin story before I get into what
Johnny Mo said. He's still playing for the Cardinals at
this time. This was my second this is my first
or second year in the league. We're playing the Cardinals.
We're playing in Arizona, and we had a rookie dB
by the name of Eric Wright. Eric Wright, he was
he used to feel itself. He was on the USC
team back in the day two thousand and three, four

(57:27):
and five. So anyway, he said something in an Kwan
Bowden after he had covered him on the play and
an Kwan kind of slipped. He covered on me, knocked
the ball down, and he said he said, yeah, you
ain't like that. You ain't like that. I was in
my head, like, man, not him, because I know he's aggressive,
he's physical. I said, not him. He looked at him shut,
didn't say anything. They came back on the field. He

(57:50):
terrorized Eric right the rest of the game I'm talking about,
picked him up, slammed him, dropped him, caught past his,
rand him over like, hitt him late. He did all
types of stuff. When Eric came back on the side
and said, man, what's wrong with that guy? Like, like,
why is he so aggressive?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
What's wrong him?

Speaker 6 (58:06):
I was like, you open up the can of worms.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
Like this is who he is. His first game ever
was at Ford Field, two hundred and twenty yards. He
had on the Detroit Lions. He broke the NFL record
for a rookie, like leave that man alone. But just
getting into Johnny Moll's.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Comments A long time, by the way, fourteen years, fourteen
years to that position, long time.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Everywhere he went he was the same. Yeah, everywhere he went,
he was productive. Whether it was in the beginning or
whether it was at the end of Baltimore, he still
is productive. Johnny MO talking about him, like that's what
you see out of Alma Ra Saint Brown, Like that's
the same game.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
Whether it's a run or whether it's a pass.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
He's get after the DB's, get after the DB's and
when it's a pass, he's gonna know where the ball
is supposed to be. He's going to be exactly where
he's supposed to be, and he's gonna make plays That tires.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
A dB down.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
That tires a forget the defense as a whole, just
the secondary. It tires you down. If I'm a dB,
I usually know that eighty percent of ride receivers aren't
blocking and doing all the extra stuff. So if it's
a run play, what do you have you got to
play off?

Speaker 6 (59:04):
You can get out there. You can talk about what.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Game you play and who's gaming or who's on ig
or blah blah blah. I'm around Saint Brown's not interested
in what you're doing in your podcast. I'm around Saint
Brown is not interested to you know, who's your flavor
of the month. As it relates to women. I'm around
Saint Brown is going to bust your butt for sixty minutes,
much like an Kwon Bolden does. And eventually you wear
a dB down because now he's so worried about you

(59:27):
coming off the line the scrimmage being aggressive and blocking.
Oh I forgot he was actually a wide receiver. I
went for a block, this guy took off on the
go route. Well, this guy got behind me. Because I'm
so focused on the physicality and the other thing that
Amar Roan's gonna do or a Kuan's gonna do, I
forget that these are actually elite wide receivers in the NFL.
That's how you become a great all around player is

(59:48):
have them worried about something that's not even taking place.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Just one year in Detroit for an Kwon Bolden, but
still I think sixty seven Rocks goes to six hundred
yards eight touchdowns. That was the third most he had
ever caught in his career and it was just the
one year. And by the way, he did it at
an advanced age of thirty six years old. He was
built like he was twenty six though. You know that
dude kept himself in unbelievable shape.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
And also too, like he's one of those guys that
could just do it all. Like I said, I mentioned
quarterback was his first position. His last game in Florida
State guests who played quarterback because their quarterback was Cirt
and kwying Bowlden played quarterback at Florida State his very
last game. I don't think people talk about that enough.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
No, I agree. I mean that's something that's completely lost.
But one would look at a kum Bolden that's six
one to twenty and I'm on Ross Saint Brown and say,
those are not the same receivers. What do you think
John Morton's referring to there?

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Speed wise are about the same, physicality wise are about
the same. The win which they run their rounds. He's
got Aman rossaying by two maybe three inches, but they
play the same way can pack, they run their routes.
They understand spacing, Like how often do you see a
play and you feel like I'm on rasting Brown might
be covered on this. I don't know if there's a

(01:01:04):
window and then somehow fourteen's in the window wide open
four nice catch. And Kwan was the same way. So
I don't think it has to be the exact height
and size. I think it's just about the type I mean,
excuse me, the type of football, the brand that you play.

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
They played the same.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Brand of football. One they're very reliable. Two they're tough
as nails. They are as tough as nails as come.
And then they're guys that you can count on.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
They lead.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
This is all i'mar Ross, He's the same as a quin.
They lead, they're tough, they're clutch, they make the plays.
I want them on my team. This is what Johnny
Mordon is talking.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Bulden was kind of quiet guy. I covered him for
the one year he was in Detroit, and you played
with him, so you know him much better, much much
better than I did. But he seemed like a quiet guy.
And so yeah, maybe, yeah, that's the way it could
be with just about anybody. Uh, I'm on, Ross, Saint
Brown isn't necessarily like that though, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
So different era. I think Amurai is the same as
and Quan only differences. It's a different error. This is
the podcast era, this is the social media era. This
is people being able to showcase their personalities on a
regular basis and be acceptable. Nobody's looking like, man, shut up,
just play football like people used to say.

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
Now it's okay to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
So I think you see i'm Ara Saint Brown show
you a little bit more of who he is. I
think a Kwan would have done more. He's still quiet,
maybe not done as much. No surprise interviews today, right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
I was surprise. I was surprised. Earlier you were talking.
We were talking during the break and oftentimes some of
the best stuff happens during the break, and you were
talking about being physical and Kwan Bolden was physical. I'm
Ara Saint Brown is physical. You were physical. Working out
helps you in that regard. It makes you want to

(01:02:51):
be physical as a wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Like when I play saying I'marai, you see his father
and mister Universe a couple of times over kind of
prepped Tea in that with Minius in that regard, we
didn't get injured because we prepared for it. And I
think that's what they did like I didn't mind the physicality,
Like I'm training for it, Like I'm doing the shoulders,
I'm doing back, I'm doing by sep, try shp, getting

(01:03:14):
my legs right. I'm working on the blocking sleds like
these are things that I do inside the practice, getting
that block, and make sure my hand's right, making sure
my hands are used to having to block a safety.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
You're having to block a linebacker from time to time.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Or even a d N So in those games where
I'm getting hit on blocking, my hands are going through.

Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
I mean, it's why my hands like this now.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
But I didn't get hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
I didn't feel like I was cool.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Let's play sixty minutes, Let's play a whole year of this.
I can keep going, keep doing this. I don't think
people prepare. I don't think the position as a whole
prepares for eighteen excuse me, eighteen games, eighteen week season
of blocking and hitting and tackling and getting hit and
sacrificing over the middle. So I see a lot of injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
When you said that contact it, I will say this.
I remember covering charge Rols Rogers when Charlie yeah, yeah,
when the Lions drafted him, and I'll never forget one
of the first times I witnessed him. You know, after
a practice, he takes your shirt off. We're sitting there
getting ready to talk with him and do an interview.

(01:04:16):
And here's a guy who was obviously tall, obviously great speed.
I could I was blown away by the lack of
tone in his body. He was not a big guy
at all. He didn't look like a football player at all.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
When you're gifted to run four three from the age
of birth, yeah, you know, and you go to saganaw
is not going to make you block anybody, just send
you on a go route so you can catch touchdowns.
And then go to Michigan State where they're definitely not
gonna make you block since you on go routse to
catch touchdowns against Notre Dame in the back of the
end zone. Like then you get drafted in the right
Like when are you going to the gym? What about

(01:04:58):
your your process made you realize the gym was important.
This is no knock to you know, to Charlie, who
I knew, well, it's no knocked to him. It's just
how he was coached and how he was brought up.
It wasn't important because he ran four to three, you
know what. It became important when you got to the NFL,
and that four to three didn't matter because.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
Guys knew how to hit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
They watched film, they studied, they knew technique, and that
four three was great? But what can you put with?

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
So what does it cut it down to? The four
to three gets gets demeaned to like a guy who's
running a four to five.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
Yeah, it's the thought process, like four to three is
only four three if I if I'm not thinking like
you don't remember Tabrik Hill when he was first with KC.
He was fast on the deep over routes and the
screen routes. But the other part of the game, the
actual wide receiver, the minutia, if you will, in the
middle of the sandwich. He didn't have that, and he
looked like he was thinking, am I supposed to convert this?

(01:05:53):
Or is it man and man coverage? Am I supposed
to be in the first window? Or do I keep
running on the go?

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
Like that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
So when you're not thinking, you but when you start
to think, now you open yourself up for getting covered.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
I can tell you this. Brad Holmes fought right when
he drafted aman Ross Saint Brown twenty twenty one. He
drafted him in the fourth round. There were one hundred
and eleven players taken ahead of aman Ross Saint Brown,
so he got that right, but he is disappointed on
the one that got away. Who was that?

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
And maybe Jalen Carter?

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Maybe maybe there's somebody that you regret the Lions not
taking that list could be really long. We want your
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Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
Hey, look, man, I'm sorry. That's a hill that I
will die on. I will always be upset. Now we
didn't take Jalen Carter, but that's my not yours.

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Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Lions have made a lot of mistakes over the years.
That goes without saying, all right, we've all lived through
it in brad homes we trust. I say that all
the time because he's made a lot of really good picks,
excellent picks, picks that you didn't expect, and they've been
better than a lot of people ever thought they would be.

Speaker 7 (01:13:50):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
It's a big reason why he's the primary reason Detroit
has been a little bit more prideful in their Lions
team and their players. But even he admits he's made mistakes.
You could argue that Hendon Hooker, at least right now,
appears to be a mistake. A third round draft pick

(01:14:11):
doesn't seem very comfortable with this offense and it's just
not clicking for him. You could make the argument that
us Rakestraw might be a little too early for me,
but he was a bit of a mistake, second round
pick and has not really been much of a contributors. Yeah,
Josh Pascal Levi on za work. Here's a guy who

(01:14:33):
you know he's gonna miss two years out of five.
I'm not saying he's a boss, but it's a second
round pick and that was a pretty important pick, right,
So maybe there's some mistakes. But Brad Holmes does admit
there's one guy who got away from him. He wasn't
necessarily distraught over it, but he was disappointed. Here's Brad

(01:14:56):
Holmes on the one pick that he feels he wished
he had back.

Speaker 18 (01:15:02):
Rusting for you. We've been asking all the jeeps. We
do say something with players called one rep back, you
get to do a play over.

Speaker 7 (01:15:07):
From your career.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Okay.

Speaker 18 (01:15:09):
With with GMS, we ask what's the scouting report you
wish you had back, whether that's when you were a
scouting ay, So Gudencuz yesterday gave us Frank Gore, Veach
gave us Fred Warner, Pokinakula. Actually was was Brandon Bean.
So what in your whole career, what's the one I
wish I pounded the table for this guy?

Speaker 19 (01:15:29):
You know, I actually I would the one that I've
spoken about most recently is is cooking Nikola That that
is I've asked my personal staff. That's the one that
brought up. That's like man like like, you know, it's
just it is what it is. But you know what
if you don't recognize those things, you know, if you

(01:15:50):
don't self assess yourself constantly, you can't grow and you
can't get better.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:15:54):
So everybody wants to preach you know, humility and and
humble and all that. You gotta be honest, to be humble,
and so yourd to be honest about you know, if
you miss out on southing or something, you could have
done a little bit better.

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
To the desk.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
So I think that's great, it's honest. He was a
fifth round draft pick, So I'm sure here there are
more than just one Brad Holmes as a general manager
who wishes they had Pokinikua. And I don't think that's
an indictment on Jamiir Gibbs. Sue was drafted in the
first round of Sam Laporta, who went to the lines
in that draft, but that's the one he wishes he
had back.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
Sure, Sure, that's what you want to say here. And
tell me he's the one that got away. I mean,
we know Brad Holmes focuses on the third and beyond.
That's where he really makes his bones. That's where he
really really makes his deals. That's where we know him
as he's finding those diamonds in the rough, whether it's
Kirby Joseph in the third, whether it's Ama Ross and
Brown in the fourth, and the list goes on. I
appreciate that. It's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
I disagree, like, how dare you get up here? And
I say, Jalen Carter, I'm just saying, how dare you
get up here? And I say, Jalen Carter saw what
Jayleen Carter has been since everyone said what he was
going to be or the energy that he was going
to bring to whatever team draft him. I think it's him.
If you want to say pooking the court because of
what he's turned into, then sure, but it lets you

(01:17:13):
know what he values. It lets you know what how
deep in the draft he goes, and lets you know
how in depth he goes in terms of I'm looking
from pick one, round one all the way to pick
I forget how many numbers it goes up to. At
end of the seventh round twenty nine or something.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
So, but she never had a chance to choose Jalen Carter.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
He did, he absolutely did he trade to pick well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
I thought he Oh, he traded back.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
He traded back. I got you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
But you still would have been able to get Jamir Gibbs.
You still would have been able to get Brian Brandtch.
You still would have been able to get three of those.
And oh, by the way, you would have had Jalen
Carter as well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
I don't know if he would have still had a
chance to get Jamiir Gibbs. I don't know if anybody
knows that, because there were other teams reportedly after that
who were really interested.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
I don't buy that though, because when something looks great,
when something works, people want to act like they were
just as smart. So when the Jamiir Gibbs thing took,
when did jami Gibs thing worked? Now, I got other
scouts come from other teams like, hey, we were gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:18:13):
Take him as well.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
No you weren't, No you weren't. And if that's the case,
we still had six and eighteen, you still would have
had Jamiir Gibs at eighteen. If you wanted it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
Who's the guy you would? I mean not under Brad Holmes,
but then this could be there's no wrong answer here,
so allons. Yeah, in history. So I'm welcome, welcoming Ricky,
I'm welcoming kool aid, anybody's opinion on something like this
and love it in the chat too. Just one though,
you can only have the one. Who's the one guy

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you were screaming for?

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
You wish you had that?

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
You never got Randy Moss in nineteen ninety eight. How
the hell did you draft Terry Fair? But fine, everyone passed, remember,
but everyone passed on Randy Moss, So fine, if you
want to give me that look. In twenty seventeen, I
was working with another station, another network, if you will,
and I could not believe that the Lions took Gerard Davis.

(01:19:09):
When Dalvin Cook was on the board and we had
been screaming for a running back since Barry Sanders left.
I knew what Dalvin Cook was going to be, at
least in my estimation. I saw the Florida State. I
saw it against the University of Michigan World Rings, who
had a pretty good defense at that time.

Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
Dalvin Cook was the one I wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
You got a linebacker who shocker didn't work out in
the NFL as Michigan Detroit Lions linebackers hadn't at that time.
That's the one for me. I know, people like good
Alvin Cook could have been the running back that Matt
Stafford needed, that that offense needed, that that system needed.
He was a damn good running back. He still is
the service of a running back now. He's the one

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because Gerard Davis wasn't it, and he's just that's the
one for me. And it's more recent.

Speaker 20 (01:19:50):
Kool Aidy, you got one, I know, one that just
will always eat away at my soul, you know, is
twenty fourteen Eric Ebron and Aaron Donald.

Speaker 13 (01:20:02):
Was still on the board. That one will forever eat
up myself.

Speaker 9 (01:20:06):
Even like I think we have to win a Super
Bowl to be able to sanitize that from my system.

Speaker 13 (01:20:11):
Then I'm just being friill with to that one was
a tough one for me and it's still to me.

Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
I think it's one of the biggest, uh one of
the biggest draft blunders in lia's history.

Speaker 13 (01:20:22):
Here, that's that's one of the ones for me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
That was I'm with you on that. That's The first
one that came to mind for me was, you know,
they draft Eric Ebron, who I watched a lot of
college football, but I didn't watch a lot of North Carolina,
but I watched a lot of college football. I don't
remember Eric Ebron being this this superstar tight end that
everybody was clamoring for, and he was going to be

(01:20:44):
the second coming of Tony Gonzalez. In fairness, and people
were a little critical of me because I wanted Aaron
Donald in that regard. In fairness, Aaron Donald is undersized
defensive tackle. Yeah, now we know what he is now.
I've got a good friend who played in the league
for eight years and says, Aaron Donald's the best defensive

(01:21:06):
lineman he's ever seen. But he said that while Aaron
Donald was still playing. I might add, so we know
what he is now. When he was drafted, the knock
and this is why sometimes I can't stand the size
and the weight and all that other stuff. The knock
was that he was undersized, okay, And I could only
imagine he would wipe this this complaint right off people's

(01:21:31):
lips as soon as they started to say it because
of his play. But they would say, great, Detroit gets
needs a defensive tackle and they draft a guy who's
that big or that light like this is gonna work out.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
Two things.

Speaker 5 (01:21:44):
One you're not gonna miss. You have less of a
chance missing if you draft a defensive player that you
saw him be dominant at the collegiate level. If you
miss on that, I think.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
Maybe it's just me. I'll speak for myself. I'm not
mad at you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
You know defensive need, you know defensive line, you know
what they mean to the game. Today. You took a
chance on a guy that was damn good in Colls,
a wrecking ball at Pitt. You took a chance on that.
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Like I'm not
crying you a river over Aaron Donald not working. Ic
Ebron a tight end out of U n C. And
I know him personally, so it's just me throwing shit.

(01:22:23):
I know I know him personally. Eric Ebron a tight
end out of a school that you know it's the truth,
A tight end out of a school that you are
not watching. Nobody's checking for you and c how many
how many great quarterbacks that they had in college that
you still don't know their team like we knew Mitchell
Dubisky was a good quarterback in college. I didn't know
his wide receivers. I ain't know what was going on

(01:22:44):
Drake May. Drake May's better than Caleb Williams right now.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
Apparently I don't know his.

Speaker 5 (01:22:48):
Wide receivers when he was there because I ain't checking
for UNC football. So if you're a tight end from
u NC doesn't work, you know a lot of people
gonna be looking at you dies like who was that?
So I just think just in a professional space, Aaron
Donald made sense over a iron, but that size thing.

(01:23:09):
Aaron Donald kind of allowed the next generation because Elijah Cansey, Well,
let me pick him up, because you know what happened
when we said about Aaron Donald and Dwight Freeny.

Speaker 6 (01:23:20):
Another guy.

Speaker 5 (01:23:20):
So I think Aaron Donald was made away for people
to say, I don't see that side stuff. I don't
see the high stuff. If you can play, you can play.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
There were two other guys in that draft that I
remember saying I really wanted one Detroit didn't get a
chance to draft. That was Anthony Barr. He was the
linebacker on UCLA.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
I really yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
He went to the Vikings at nine just before or Eric.
He Brunt the other guy, and I wanted Aaron Donald one.
I wanted Anthony bar two. The third guy I wanted
was Zach Martin, and Zach Martin was the guard was
is an absolute beast and a mauler, and people roll
the rise of me all the time. Friends of Mike said,

(01:24:01):
you always want the interior offense of whyman, I say,
because I think that's part of your heartbeat. Man, I
think those are the guys you definitely want to make
sure you get after. And I thought he was. I
thought he would have been fantastic out of Notre Dame.
All right, that's a really good one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Though.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
I love the Aaron Donald one because that's as good
as a guess.

Speaker 13 (01:24:20):
And there's a one here from the chap family as well.

Speaker 9 (01:24:23):
Aaron to the Stone says we could have had obj
also instead of Eric Brickhands.

Speaker 13 (01:24:29):
I'm just saying that just to backup.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
Bray a little bit. By the way, Oh wow, retired
hung him up.

Speaker 9 (01:24:36):
Hey, Hey, the further back up your point on the
measurables thing with with Aaron Donald. You know, that was
one of the things that Brad Holmes talked about explicitly
when he was discussing the pick of Brian Branch. There
were certain measures that people it didn't jive with them.
He wasn't one of those combined guys. But he said, look, man,
when I put on the take this guy going on

(01:24:56):
the pad, so you see him in a game.

Speaker 13 (01:24:58):
He's a football player. And I absolutely love that Bradhlks
takes that approach with this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
I just think it's six. I think at the time
six to one, under three hundred, don't know exactly what
it was, Okay, two eighty five somewhere around there. People
thought that he would be just engulfed by offensive lineman.

Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
The iron the sky.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
Don't lie is one of the best sayings for football
sor with football now to use it in all sports.
And what that means is film don't lie when you
turn the tape on. When you put the tape on,
I don't care what the measurables is. I don't care
if somebody's five eight, I don't care if somebody's six
or four. I don't care if somebody's four or five.
On here, somebody's four to two. When you turn that
tape on, you see what you see. It's the same
you talk about comparing Isaac Teslatt to Pooking the Cool.

(01:25:42):
You know what the right up on Pooking the Cool was,
say you want you gonna make a team? Said Pooking
the Cool would make a team, he would be a
career backup at best. Said the same thing about Cooper
Cup said the same thing about him, saying, ah, you know,
he does some things well, but he's probably number three
or four if he can make a team. One of
those guys was Triple Crown and the other guy he's

(01:26:03):
in line to be top five ry receiver in his
NFL if he keeps the pace that he's going with
Matt Stafford. So it doesn't matter about what to write
up with what they say about you. It's about what
the film says. And then it's about whoever drafts that
players are putting him in position to have success. And
the Detroit Lions, they didn't care what it was about.

Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
Isaa Tesla.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
They saw what they saw and now they're putting him
in position one of the best offices in the NFL,
one of the best quarterbacks, yes, I said it, one
of the best quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
In the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
And they've been running away over the last three years
of offensive prowess, So you're putting him in a position
to have success.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
That's what it takes.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
Inf Can I bring up another guy when I was
a good five dine a buck eighty five? If a
guy played for Texas A and M L at Texas
A and M. KINGSVILLEE and was five five and your
team drafted him the first round's a cornerback, how would
you feel about that?

Speaker 5 (01:26:56):
Five five to nine?

Speaker 6 (01:26:58):
What does he run?

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Eighty five? One of the fastest men in the league.
I got you Texas A and M. Kingsville That is
Darryl Green and Daryl Green is one of the greatest
cover corners this league has ever seen.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
Twenty years.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
Yeah he still runs four five Green? He just ran
four or five last year.

Speaker 4 (01:27:19):
You're kidding me, bs, you not? Isn't he sixty five? Matter?

Speaker 6 (01:27:27):
I'm just saying, is that possible?

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
What is he eating?

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Lord?

Speaker 13 (01:27:31):
Ha just lifted by Gonna dusk Cat Williams.

Speaker 6 (01:27:36):
I give cattle out of credit though.

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
Cat is fast. Cat's hood fast, right, Cat? Like you
get him out here on the street taking shoes off,
like you might lose that race.

Speaker 8 (01:27:46):
Cat is that little annoying dudes on the court. He
could hit every shot, always get rebounds from rebounds.

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
I used to love watching those old school NFL Fastest
Man competition too. It was like he herschel Walker superstar
was then Heywood Jeffrees and guys back and he said,
went easy.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
Those guys were great because Rod Woodson was a track star.
He was a national champion in track Purdue.

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
He's an Olympic level sprinter, that hurdler. He's one of
the most underrated players. I know he gets the credit
he deserves, but he's one of the most underrated players
man history. He's he's arguably all around safety.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
He's probably number.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
He's one of the best.

Speaker 6 (01:28:25):
He's probably two or three.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
He's one of the best. It's tough to rank him.
But he's in that conversation. Remember he did he played
dB though to he did. He did with Charles Woodson
and Ronnie and I don't know if Carnell Lake did it,
Mel Blunt did it. You know the thing that always
impressed me about Rod Woodson, I think he blew out
his knee the year Baltimore won the him. Yes, he

(01:28:48):
blew out his knee. And he said to Bill Cower, right,
was it was Pittsburgh, It was Pittsburgh Baltimore. He was
with Pittsburgh. He said to Bill Cower, don't put me
on the eye out, don't put me on i R
injured reserve. It was it's injured list now it used
to be I R. Don't put me on the I R.
And he came back, damn it. And he he played.

(01:29:09):
He was a bad dude man, really really good player.
Actually worked with him a couple of games with Big
Ten Network and really enjoyed it. You got one, Ricky,
you got one.

Speaker 13 (01:29:16):
Of the worst.

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
When it comes to drafting. That's the part that I'm
horrible with. I'm never pick because it's hard, so hard
to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
I don't know how did you know?

Speaker 13 (01:29:27):
You didn't want to hear though, because I know Eric
had to be one of them dudes.

Speaker 7 (01:29:31):
No Lions back in that that time. I didn't think
they were so bad. I didn't think it was no
matter either. I just wanted them to play. I didn't
care about what picks because we were doing so bad
so long.

Speaker 8 (01:29:43):
Like One of the Pants and the psy we always
had top three packs.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
So we've had some good ones so far. I'm gonna
give you one more for me. And I was criticized
wildly on on TV because I did the draft on
on the abcal fillid here in the right back. In
twenty twelve, Detroit had the twenty fourth pick and I
was lobbying hard for David di Castro and I thought

(01:30:12):
or Kevin Zeitler. Zeitler out of Wisconsin, David Dicastro was
an absolute beast, and I said, you're going to be
able to put him at the guard position and you
won't have to worry about a thing for the next
ten years. It was similar to Jeff Hardings. Jeff Hardings

(01:30:32):
was so good at Penn State and he could play
guard or center.

Speaker 6 (01:30:36):
And he was effective.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
He was effective at both. But David Dicastro went and
he was out of Stanford, went right after Riley Reef.
And I remember asking the Lions brass at the time
why Riley Reef nothing against Riley Reef. He was a
pretty good tackle played at Iowa, you know, obviously high level,
and they said, because he can play anywhere on the line.

(01:31:00):
If you're gonna draft somebody, why don't you just draft
the best player at that position? And I thought it
was one of two guys. David Dicastro or Kevin Zeitler,
and they took Riley Reef and he was a He
was a decent, pro right decent for the Lions and
decent for the Vikings. But he wasn't nearly what David

(01:31:22):
Dicastro was for Pittsburgh, nor was he what Kevin Zeitler
was for any of the teams that he played on.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
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We did win that golf about. Second of all, here's
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Speaker 6 (01:31:35):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Very very responsible. Here's an honorable mention for me. Two
thousand and five draft. That was my draft class. I
actually thought that I had a chance to go to
the Detroit Lions. Matt Millen was talking to my father
at my pro day. They knew each other from their
time in the NFL, and after that was a potential move.
Lion's pick of ten, they draft Mike Williams. They had
already had Roy Williams, they had already had Charles Rogers.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
You know who went eleven DeMarcus where Hall of Fame
h o F.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
Shawn Merriman one, twelve, Thomas Davis, fourteen, Dereck Johnson a
great linebacker for the Kansasye Chiefs. Yeah, five guys that
were damn near you know, hof or close to it,
right behind him, all positions of me. Meanwhile, you had
two first round wide receivers that you were doing nothing
with that design.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
So yeah, that was one of I think everybody's biggest
frustration in Detroit, and rightfully so I was really frustrated
by it as well. I'm not gonna lie, but I
remember this vividly because I was in Europe calling NFL
Europe at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
And.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
Darren Woodson, who was ended up being the Dallas Cowboys
all time leading tackler at the safety position, was my partner.
And we're getting ready in the end of the NFL
drafts is taking place and the Lions select Mike Williams
and Darren didn't know me real well, but he got
to know me pretty well then He's like, man, you
are really upset. I said, I am so frustrated right now.

(01:33:07):
I am beyond myself and I think I think I
wanted Derek Johnson, the linebacker out of Texas. That's why, man, huh,
he could play, So that's who I really wanted it.
So I was frustrated because I used it exactly the
example you said, and he called me down. He ended
up being wrong, obviously, but he called me down and said, shup,

(01:33:27):
how are you going to How are we going to
cover you? You've got three one wide receivers, all of
them are big, all of them are fast, two of
them are physical. How are we going to cover you?
Look at it that way, You're gonna outscore everybody. Now Again,
obviously he was wrong, but the point was he was
looking at it from the positive standpoint, and I was

(01:33:48):
looking at it like the lion screwed up.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
Yet again, neither one of you looked at it from
this standpoint like you wanted Derek Johnson because that was
the better move for you. Like Darren Johnson, I played
agains him at Texas. I knew him personally. I liked him.
He was the toughest guy on the Texas team. I
thought Texas was soft, to be honest, like the Big
twelve was. So we scored thirty eight points on They
were tough. But he was a player that I respected, loved,

(01:34:10):
and he played that way for the I can't see
Chiefs his whole career. You got three number ones, Roy
Williams is a known diva. He puts diva into the
wide receiver work good dude, good dude, white gloves and
he's not practicing these white gloves like it's it's number
one energy. Same with Charles. Charles is a number one

(01:34:34):
wide receiver diva as well. And then Mike Williams, who
didn't play the year before, by the way, didn't play,
so that that's why I was going to set out
the whole year good called by you because of Morris
correct winning that case. So he decided to throw his
hat in there too. Ended up getting screwed.

Speaker 6 (01:34:49):
Both of them did.

Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
But you just have a room with three guys that
they only care about getting the ball, and now one
of them blocked right like that was just a dumb decision.

Speaker 6 (01:34:58):
That was a dumb decision in my mind.

Speaker 13 (01:35:00):
And you know we got something from here too. You
know that is a good one. Bright The insight is
just on point.

Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
Man Shup continues to tell y'all, this is like the
only spot in sports where you get this type of breakdown,
this type of insight.

Speaker 13 (01:35:12):
She loved me on payday. What a name in the chat.

Speaker 7 (01:35:20):
That is that is strong? That is really strong?

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
Yeah, that's a strong name.

Speaker 7 (01:35:24):
Fantasy, one of the best names.

Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
I might I might like the show today for that one.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Going in it. Just like Budd. I like Bud because
of that name. Man the top of line. That name
was the top of line every time.

Speaker 13 (01:35:41):
Every time he brings up some painful memories.

Speaker 9 (01:35:44):
He says, Joey Harrington at third overall, or Edree at
twenty fourth, or Dwight Freeney eleventh, that was a heck
of a draft.

Speaker 6 (01:35:53):
That's tough because you had you needed a quarterback. That's tough.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
You're not supposed to draft for you.

Speaker 13 (01:35:59):
Yeah, a thousand and two drive.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
You're not supposed to draft a name.

Speaker 7 (01:36:03):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
I mean, that's that's but I think the pet peeve
of mine.

Speaker 6 (01:36:06):
Is the quarters.

Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
The quarterback a position that you can exclude from that
if there's something worse, because if you need a quarterback,
you need a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
But then look at what you might be losing out on.
It as the the Texter, just as they sent it
to the Chad.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
I knew you knew would be good too.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
That's that's that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
It's I don't I'm not gonna sit here and try
to claim I knew who was gonna be good. Okay,
so I'm I'm not gonna sit there and go I
knew was going to be good.

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
You don't remember the the infamous speech that he gave
before the Miami game in the hallway where he went
off with just players and have time, and they came
back out there and proceeded to beat the dog on
snot out of Miami and then proceed to beat Nebraska
like they stole something in the championship.

Speaker 6 (01:36:53):
He led that team.

Speaker 5 (01:36:54):
That team is, in my opinion, the greatest.

Speaker 6 (01:36:57):
I don't want to go back.

Speaker 5 (01:36:58):
I don't want to go back further say in my
erasiousys them and then at four us EZ and they're
one and two.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Well, look, the inspirational speeches are all part of being
a leader. That's that's fine, That's not why I'm drafted guy.
But he was fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
I believe the.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
Other guy in the conversation at that time and I
was hosting shows, was Quentin Jammer. He was a cornerback, right,
I believe he was a corner And that was a
consideration to.

Speaker 5 (01:37:28):
Los Angeles Chargers at the time.

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
And yeah, and they needed San Diego Chargers at the time.
They needed a corner too, so I'm not saying that
was the right pick. Five he went five. I believe
all I'm saying is I'm just because I need a quarterback,
I'm gonna rush to get one. I think it's a
bad and jet drum My Mans has told me forever

(01:37:50):
and they've told you too if you if you don't
have one, you spend your entire career chasing one, trying
to find one. And obviously the lines made that pick
and it was the that's a really good one from
the chatlight. We got to take a quick time out
when we come back. Speaking of quarterbacks, there is an
injury to a quarterback in the division. Brayllen Edwards's thoughts

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on how that may affect the division and the Lions
if at all. That's coming up next here on the
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As you get ready for this NFL season and you're
watching Braylan's breakdown throughout.

Speaker 5 (01:42:02):
The year and it's gonna be I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Who's the team is that
is the biggest threat to the Waians in the division?
Last year, we know it was Minnesota fourteen wins, nothing,
this needs that. Do you think it's Minnesota again this
year or do you think it's Green Bay or Chicago?
Who would you say?

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
I say green Bay, I'd say going into seeing this
green Bay. Green Bay was the biggest threat to me
last year. Realistically, I think they had some injuries, just
things derailed them. Injury to their quarterback, injury to a
couple of their key positioned last year where I receive
retired in some offside linebackers, so they you know, fell
off a little bit. I think they are the biggest
threat because I think their coach is a proven coach.

(01:42:43):
I think Kevin O'Collins proven too. But let me just
add to the new shit. Uh Matli Flores has been
thirteen three three times. He's been to the NFC Championship already,
so he understands that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
How knows what it takes.

Speaker 5 (01:42:54):
He knows what it takes. I think he is in
love with his quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:42:57):
I think he of.

Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
Heat.

Speaker 6 (01:43:00):
Out of all the four teams were listeningly. They have
it together. Matt Lafleur is Jeordan Love.

Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
They have the chemistry the last three years, so I
think they are ahead of the other other three teams,
including the Detroit Lions and Jared Goff at least.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
Now Wow address some wide receiver issues as well, and
the guys who's right behind us here? And there is
some news about Jordan blaw Right. Yep, Jordan Love has
is undergoing a procedure on a ligament issue with his
left thumb. Okay, so it's not his throwing hand, but
still it's his left thumb. He suffered the injury in

(01:43:33):
Green Bay's preseason opener. The team is hoping that's a keyword, hoping.
Love can return to practice next week, and the Packers
expect him to be ready for the regular season opener
against the Lions at lambeau Field. How concerned should Packer
fans be for an injury like that? Do you think
to their quarterback a.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
Lot because you did not want to get out of
the gates with a bad start. Now, look, I know
it's on his left hand and he's right handed. However,
when he's under center, take those snaps, it's QB center exchange.
You have to put both hands under the centers, you
know what, to take that snap and continuously snapping. The
force in which these centers snapped the ball with it's
a lot more than you think it is when you're

(01:44:13):
sitting at home or in the stands. So the fact
that it's gonna hit his thumb every single play, that
means he's gonna start the playoff with a loose handle,
if you will, and put that much more pressure on
the right hand and taping it and all the things.
So I expect that to bother him early on in
the season. That is not an easy thing. I've been
with quarterbacks that have done that. The left thumb has

(01:44:36):
had some complications, be it a minor procedure or be
it no procedure, just taping and going through it. You
can see you can see it kind of like the
the winsing. You can see it bothering them. You can
see if they're a little off on the pass because
they don't have that guide hand to kind of help
them hold that ball and formulate just their natural rhythm.

(01:44:56):
So I'm not gonna say this is going to be
the reason they lose. It was the first four games,
but this is something to watch out for. If you
don't get in the rhythm. All it takes is center
quarterback exchange, hit your thumb, ball fumbles and you start
to drive on the twelve.

Speaker 6 (01:45:10):
Now it's a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
Now you start behind Minnesota, and now you start behind
the Chiefs because the same schedule that we have is
almost the same schedules that they play. So you don't
want to start bad and having a thumb That could
lead to it a pushed pass because when you can't
hold it, you can't find gun that thing you're kind
of pushing it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:30):
So keep your eye on Jordan Love. That's not good
for them.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
Any consolation for them knowing that Malik Willis is their
backup a guy who threw for a few touchdowns as
a packer a year ago. Was much better last year
than it was his first two years in Tennessee out
of liberty.

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
Some because you have a backup quarterback that is proven.
You have a backup quarterback that has gone and played
some games. Don't forget about when he was in Tennessee.
He went on the road to Kansas City and they
almost escaped Arrowhead and being Patrick Mahomes in a win.
So he has some experience in his game and that
bodes well. But Na, this is Jordan Love's team. They're
gonna have the most success with Malie Willis Is. It's

(01:46:08):
somebody and I'm like, oh, they got Malie Willis. It's
kind of like, okay for a play, Okay for a half.
You're talking about a game or something more that's not
good news.

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
Amen to that. You said something interesting to me. I've
always wondered your perspective and players perspectives. When you say
someone who is proven, what do we use as the
criteria for proof. Malik Willis has played eighteen games. He's
thrown for nine hundred career yards. He's thrown as many
interceptions as touchdowns and he's thrown seventy five completions. When

(01:46:41):
do we know? I don't know if there's a right
answer to this. I don't know if there's a number
associated with it. When I used to talk to baseball
scouts and I said, when do we know? When is
Ricky good enough? When is kol A good enough? Fifteen
hundred major league get bats? That was the consensus. Not
everybody said fifteen hundred, but that's the consensus if you
averaged it out. I want to see him for fifteen

(01:47:04):
hundred major league at bats, not minor league major league
get bats. So when people say I'm done with Spencer
Torkosen last year, I'm like, dude, you don't have that
many at bats in the major league. Take it easy, right,
I mean, we want to rush our players all the
way through. How do we know that a guy is
seasoned or a proven player in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:47:27):
When you're not a stop gap, when you're not somebody
coming in just for a couple of players, If you're
not somebody coming in because somebody got hurt or hey,
we'll start you. But yeah, we really don't have any options.
And next year we'll be drafting a quarterback anyway. To me,
you're proven when the team names you starter, okay, and
then you go about the season preparing as a starter,

(01:47:48):
not worrying about oh, I'm only in here until like oh,
this is just until, because you don't prepare the same way.
You don't have the same type of pressure. You don't
have the same type of stresses. When the job is
yours and you're there's nobody behind you and there's nobody
in front of.

Speaker 6 (01:48:06):
You, it's just you.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
You give me a season to that, then you're prove it.
But until then, it's well, Taylor Heineke is playing because
we don't have a quarterback insert what was the quarterback case?
King is playing because this guy is hurt or we
don't have that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:48:25):
So I think Tyler Badget is playing instead Williams.

Speaker 5 (01:48:28):
So when you become the guy, when it's number one
on you and now you're preparing as a starter and
now the game plan is going through you for an
extended period of time, I think that's when you can say,
all right, cool, this is you're vetted.

Speaker 6 (01:48:41):
You're vetted, we trust you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:42):
There's the proof, and from a player standpoint, the confidence
when you're in that huddle, Jordan Loved to Malik Willis.
It's look, it's no way would it be as steep
a drop as you went from Jared Goff to Kyle Allen,
for example. But there's got to be some guys looking
around a little bit saying we might have to be
a little bit extra careful, like a little extra precise

(01:49:04):
when it comes to something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:05):
I don't know, No, I actually don't know. Because Jordan Love, yes,
he had the run two seasons ago. Actually in that run,
they beat the Detroit Lions on Thanksgiving, Dave, so thanks
for that. But two years ago they had that run.
But remember how that's run started. First eight games with
shaky then they have a good games and then what
happened last year. Here's an injury and here's some inconsistent play. Meanwhile,

(01:49:29):
every time Elie Willis has stuffed them for the Packers,
he's been consistent. He's looked cool, calm and collected, and
to your point, they've doubed it back a little bit.
So he's not doing the same thing as Jordan Love.
I'm a player on that team. I'm like, oh, we're good.
Malik's in there. We've seen what he can do because
they don't have Aaron Rodgers. You're not vetting it against
somebody that has been that three four, five, six years.

(01:49:52):
You're vetting it against a guy that's been there for,
to be honest, an exact season half his first season
and the second half in the second season.

Speaker 6 (01:50:01):
So it's Latin to me.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
That's fascinating, it really is. I always appreciate when athletes,
professional athletes can give us a little bit of insight
to that because we always think certain guys, if you've
played games certain number of games, and that you are
automatically prepared or that you're automatically proven, and it does

(01:50:26):
take some time. I used the baseball analogy, and I
use Torkalsen, so I might as well continue with it.
I said this to people all the time when they
were frustrated at his lack of development, and I said,
you understand they rushed him through the minor leagues. I said,
he had seven hundred and eighty eight minor league at bats.

(01:50:46):
Let me give you a context of that. Mike Trout
had one one hundred and twenty seven minor league at bats.
And I'm not saying Torcolsen is even close to Mike Trout.
Who's one of the greatest players that we've seen in
our generation. I'm just giving you an idea. Those are
things that catch up to you later on in life
or later on in the at the highest level, it's

(01:51:09):
hard to duplicate that stuff. So Malik willis playing eighteen
games total, some of it mop up duty. Doesn't mean
he's automatically prepared to take over for Jordan Love, that's all.

Speaker 6 (01:51:20):
No, not at all, Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
Like some I don't know if this makes sense, But
like Chad Henny when he had to replace Patrick Mahomes
for the first time and in the second time.

Speaker 6 (01:51:31):
He was already proven. You know why he was proven.

Speaker 5 (01:51:34):
Started with the Jacksonville Jaguars, almost got them to think
they get them to the playoffs as well. And then
he also was with the Miami Dolphins. We drafted, played
five years with their Dolphins team. Then he became a backup.
He's a proven quarterback. So when the Kansasity Chiefs, when
they're staring at Chad Henny, who's coming in for Patrick
Mahomes in the playoffs, they're not flinching because he's a

(01:51:54):
proven track records, professionalism, it's on film. You see the
comfort level with the coaches and him. He's proven even
though he's a backup.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
Yeah, that's really good stuff. Let's get to the mail
bag here on a Tuesday. Yeah, I do a good
job of weaving that in there. I will give you credit.
Even Detroit too.

Speaker 5 (01:52:13):
I'm a homer.

Speaker 4 (01:52:14):
I mean you you were talking about Antonio Gate. Shout
out to Detroit Antonio Gate. But what up?

Speaker 9 (01:52:20):
And you know what, let's let's start this off right.
Dope boy Steve, he says, I'm losing my tuna sandwich.
Please get that packer off of our screen.

Speaker 13 (01:52:28):
There, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:52:30):
It's fair enough.

Speaker 13 (01:52:33):
Thank you for listening.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
Though, I would love to know what's in the tuna.
I love tuna fish sandwiches. But if you've got onion
and you've got olives, and you've got relish, and you've
got time and stuff like that, I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it me with the first two.

Speaker 7 (01:52:50):
I'm okay with relish in time.

Speaker 4 (01:52:51):
Are I'm strictly mayonnaise and celery okay. So I've always
asked everywhere I go. If I'm thinking about a tuna sandwich,
I gotta ask it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
What's saying?

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
Which ask a waiter or waitress that they'll be. They'll
look at you like you have lobsters crawling out of
your ears.

Speaker 7 (01:53:08):
Yeah, I wor at my house.

Speaker 5 (01:53:10):
I don't know how people eat tunas.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
I just have to it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
I can eat sushi rolls, tuna, give me spicy tuna,
and you give you something something like that. But you're
talking about tuning like tuna fish that youre smelling the house.
I remember being a kid like that that that smell
scarred me.

Speaker 6 (01:53:28):
Like, I hate that smell.

Speaker 5 (01:53:29):
I don't know how people sit there make tuna fish
smell it and they have the audacity to inhale it.
What what is wrong with It's like saying people told
me that try to pig feet. No, did you smell
that smell it?

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
Yeah? But I mean, come on, that's a tough comparison.
Pire disgusting.

Speaker 5 (01:53:47):
I'm just talking about the smell. Like so, I can't
get past certain smells. That's why I eat fish for
a large part of my huge shrimp. You fish until
I was like like twenty four twenty five.

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:58):
I don't like so for that smell. For me, it
would have been liver and onions when I was a kid,
when my mom and dad made that, it's like, I
can't eat this. I was like, done, I can't do it, man,
I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
And my dad would sit there and say, you're gonna
eat it. I don't care what happens. And I remember
vividly telling my father death. I swear I'm gonna throw
up if you make me. I don't care, You're gonna
eat it. And by golly, I threw up right on
the plate. My dad did not miss a bike. He
just kept eating. He looked at me, goes, you're gonna clean.

Speaker 5 (01:54:28):
That up.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Right there.

Speaker 7 (01:54:31):
They don't make them like that. No more, right there,
you're gonna clean that.

Speaker 6 (01:54:41):
I kept eating too.

Speaker 9 (01:54:43):
Oh man, shout out to Michael Werry with the two
dollars super chatty pound that like button chat. So y'all
gotta listen to my quarry man, go ahead and smash
that like but we do got a series of questions.
People started sitting in their mel bad questions from the
beginning of the chat. We will start off with Ken Matthews.
He says, what's the best rivalry you ever seen in

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any sport?

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:55:10):
I think it's doing you a lot, But.

Speaker 5 (01:55:12):
Come on, it's missing Ohio State man. For many many, many, many,
many many years, I decided it was going win a
national championship, and it's gotten back to that. Also, like
a rivalry has produced so many moments, so many elite players,
I mean, so many storylines. I mean, I don't know
how many Collage Heisman trophies and et cetera. And then
it's one of the few rivalries where each team is great,

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but each team is absolutely great.

Speaker 6 (01:55:39):
The tradition is there.

Speaker 5 (01:55:40):
Yes, it's Ohio State, but I gotta be honest, I
call it just the respect that at least State I
used to go.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
It's true hate. It really is, I mean, and not
many right, like you have a mutual respect, and I'm
sure you had mutual but it literally is a real hate.
I really like Army Navy. I don't think it has
the same hatred as Ohio State. Uh, but I've never
attended a game in fairness. But when I was a kid,
I remember when the Raiders and Steelers played in the AFC.

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Raiders and Chiefs was really good recular it was. It
was unbelievable. Now the name has really helped it along,
but we weren't guaranteed see guaranteed to see that every year,
at least with Michigan Ohio State. You see it every year.
That's what I love most about it.

Speaker 5 (01:56:23):
And then too, it's how they slaated. It's the last
game of the season. And then it's how you got
here in nineteen sixty nine. We all know the ten
year war.

Speaker 6 (01:56:29):
Bover's woody like how it just it? It is the rival.

Speaker 5 (01:56:33):
Man, I saw old State guy today, Like I was
at the golf outing, got my bag. You guys saw
my bag. It's it's a Michigan bitter hard to miss.
A guy walks up to me and he's looking at it,
and my dad had the.

Speaker 4 (01:56:44):
Same bagh does it all?

Speaker 6 (01:56:46):
The difference is it's a stanils.

Speaker 7 (01:56:48):
Oh, that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:56:50):
So like that I got the picture I showed you.
He got bag bag, he walks out. He was like, man,
you got some stuff on your bag. And my dad
he didn't catch it. He said, huh, think I'm already
knowing where it's going. I thought it was a Michigan
State person. So I was about to I was like,
I ain't pay that no attention. And if he wants
to keep going, we can have a little quick fun banter.

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But then he said, I'm from Columbus. What Instantly, Instantly
it turned into me being eighteen going to Michigan, hate
Ohigo State. It turned into my dad prepping me to
go to Michigan. Can see what the mission?

Speaker 6 (01:57:23):
It prepped me like.

Speaker 5 (01:57:24):
It put me in a space of hate. As soon
as he said it. Now I'm going the driver's seat.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
I look over.

Speaker 5 (01:57:29):
I'm like, first of all, when you guys can be Michigan,
you can come over to this car that has two
Michigan bads and you can talk about it.

Speaker 6 (01:57:35):
He said, But we want NAT championship.

Speaker 5 (01:57:36):
Said, but you ain't bet us. He said, but it
doesn't matter. We want a national championship. I said, guess
what we did too two years ago, but we beat
you to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:57:43):
I said, make get out of here.

Speaker 5 (01:57:44):
Like but remember I was pissed, and it brought me
back to like, man, hold on a talkers.

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
You and I were talking last week about that very thing,
and you said it doesn't matter. And that's exactly what
it responded to with you.

Speaker 5 (01:57:57):
That's one hundred percent how he came in Ohio State.

Speaker 7 (01:58:00):
Is the only logo I'll see out here when I
see somebody I'm like, why would you even do that?

Speaker 6 (01:58:04):
What are you doing here?

Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
Like, go go South bro I played golf last weekend.
This dude had a bunch of golf towels in his
pro shop and he had a whole role of Ohio State.
I said, just start a curiosity, Ricky. I just started curiosity,
why do you have Ohio States towels? And he says, oh,
I guess people buy them. I said, it's interesting you
got a lot of them there. But anyway, all right,
more from the more from the chat, Hey, we do?

Speaker 5 (01:58:27):
We do?

Speaker 13 (01:58:27):
We have a lot from the chat actually seeing to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:58:30):
My apologies for not getting to these earlier. I get
a little wrapped up in the football discussion with Braylan,
and I needed football season going back to kool aid
to make sure we get that chat and we promised
we will continue to work harder that go ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:58:43):
Hey, here's one. This is another one from Ken Matthews.
Do the Lions need to play any starters in the
next game? And then he specifically addressed it as well
at Braylan too.

Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
I already tels you I think they should play in
the preseason, So I mean you're asking me, yes, dance
will always be yes, but in this particular game. But
you miss the Hall of Fame game, you miss season two.
It's getting closer and closer to the season at this point.
At this point, I don't know. At this point, you
miss two games, no, like you're gonna be what you're
gonna be. I don't think at this point playing this

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preseason game really helps you. If you're afraid of injuries,
stay that way and just play them in the regular
season and we'll have an ugly first game like we
did against the Rams, and when you sneak a win
and then you go into Tampa Bay and you struggle,
you lose, and then you get on the roll you
win fifteen out of seventeen. So this is where we
are now. I wouldn't play them because I don't even

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think the players want to play. I don't even think
that energy is there. If players don't want to play, like,
that's when you get hurt. Players out there trying to
go through the motions just to appease the coach, or
appease the fans, or appease people like myself who think
they should play. Now, you're not really going out there
to get the real work. That you're going to so no,
I think at this point keep them out key, keep

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the work that they're getting with the ones in practice,
Alan Park.

Speaker 4 (02:00:00):
Or these scrimmages that they have, well, remember they got
the scrimmages starting tomorrow and to Miami Dolphins. My guess
is the starters play about a quarter. Yeah, on Saturday
night at home against Miami. We'll soon find out. We've
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