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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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What Up?
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What Up?
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What Up?
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Is the one Brother and that was here with the
Brother New was Show. She shepperd be joining us in
about ten minutes. He's now on a zoom call right
now getting ready for the game above Bowl and that
would be December to twenty sixty after Christmas. It features
Central Michigan fire up chips as well as the north
Western wild Cat. A lot a lot to unpack today,
(01:17):
I know you guys are ready to come for me,
So we could talk about what's going on in an
arbor with the firing of coach Charon Moore. We will
dive into that, and don't worry, there's nothing to be
biased about in the situation. I'm going to bring the
acts exactly where the acts needs to go. I want
to say, what's up to my boy Brendan in the audio, boob,
what's up? Be how you feeling over?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
What you're doing?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Good?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
You're doing good? Oh? There? Good? Area is? I wonder
where you're at? And then I got my guy in
my right.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Hand to the right kool Aid in the TV book,
kool Aid you good?
Speaker 7 (01:44):
What up?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
No?
Speaker 8 (01:44):
Brother? I am good man, I'm fired up, bro up,
I'm fired up for today.
Speaker 9 (01:50):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
So you stood me up up in here man saying
this was the move. This is how we should start
the show. We will get with Sheppe and when she
then we'll be able to talk about Now we'll talk
about all the Michigan's stuffing, all the crazy stuff. I
figure we do more like a Mister Rodgery type of opening.
You walk in the house, this would be the house.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
He takes after this.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
Hey, is that type mockin his jacket.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
It's a little bit of a start the old school
love right there, rocking the lions to day. I didn't
run away from Michigan, but today seem like a little
bit of lion love. Before we get into the show,
how about we have a little bit of fun. The
holiday season is coming up. Tend is the season to
watch Christmas movies or kind of Christmas movies.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
So bring it.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Throw the bracket up there for me if you could.
Here we go, this is what we would do to
que time while we wait for Shep. And oh, by
the way, hello to the chat that was very rude
to me. Hello, welcome man, and appreciate you guys to
join us today.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Man a, right here we go.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I did not make this bracket, So don't look to
me when you see some crazy movie names on here,
like what the hell is?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
You know what? I don't know. Your guess is as
good as mine, but I do know some of these movies.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
So let's just have some fun and see if we
can get through a bit of this before Shep comes
on the show.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Where you wanna start at, lady and gentlemen classics?
Speaker 8 (03:00):
Oh, you said classics.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah on the.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Side, all right, Home Alone Verse Screws Screws eighty seven,
eighty eight. I want to say, Bill Murray, funny movie, hilarious,
but we won't need to waste too much time. Home
Alone takes this when I do believe the Santa Claus
or miracle on thirty fourth Street. This when I open
up to the judges. Now Shepherd's here, I'm pretty sure
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Shep will tell you that a miracle on thirty fourth
Street is one of his phase that tends to be
the error.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
But I'm not check Brenda, what you got for me?
Santa Claus and Marlica one thirty fourth Street.
Speaker 10 (03:34):
Ah, the Santa Claus.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
The Santa Claus.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
Okay, okay, kool aid yep, Santa Claus.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Cam over there? What's the word? Man?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I gotta go with.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
Hey, come over here?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Mariga on thirty one fourth Street. Ooh, this is a
tough one because it is a classic. It is actually
a really good classic. It's one of the classes that
stand up.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
But I don't know, man, Tim they two man Taylor
AKA to Santa Claus.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I think he takes it for me.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
I'm going with the Santa Claus as well, Santa Claus
a home alone, all right.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Third one, It's a wonderful life. It's like black and White.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Man, it's like nineteen forty versus a Christmas story. You
will shoot your eye out in the words of the movie.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
What you going with over there? Cooler?
Speaker 8 (04:17):
That's Christmas?
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Come on, man, this is like Christmas story. Better make
it to at least the elite. We'll see what it
is Christmas story for me, Brendan. You shooting your eye out?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yep, I can't.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I know you are too, because you picked the miracle
on thirty fourth Street. Look at the chat too, and
see what they're kind of saying. By the way, see
if they agree with us dust far All right, now,
this one is a tough one for me because my
favorite Christmas movie of all time happens to be Christmas
Family Vacation. But the jingle all the way is definitely
a good one too. Ifamous Turbo Man Arnold Swartzenegger, what
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you got for me?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Brendan, You kind of look like the little kid in
the movie.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
It looks like a little bit, a little bit baby,
A little bit, okay, just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I gotta go.
Speaker 10 (05:01):
Christmas Vacation Chris.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I'm talking about we got the youth on our side,
what you got from kool aid?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But what were doing?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Jingle all the way? Arnold Schwartzenegger and uh what was
his name? Rest in peace? Phil Hartman and Simbad.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
He walked up into the radio station with the fake
bomb the postal guy. What you got for me? He
seemed like a Simbad fan.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
We rock with can't say we rock with Simbad.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Alright, well, well.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
We're gonna have to split this one because I'm going
Christmas Family Vacation with Brendan. Ain't no way I'm gonna
letting Arnold freaking Chevy chase Christmas Family Vacation. You do
the split Christmas Family Vacation or Jingle all the way
Arnold versus Chevy. And I know you don't like Chevy,
so you so you got you guys may have gotten
a guy.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
What we're doing, You got your tie breakers?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
No one want to retired on so far Christmas Vacation
or Jingle all the way?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
There we go, way to come through right on time.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
We'll finish this, uh later on this week, maybe at
the end of the show.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
There's a lot to cover.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
SEPs Lo Uh No, the internet did, and I just
kind of took it. So we got home alone with
Santa Claus. Uh, Chris shep, what would you be? Miracle
on thirty fourth Street of Santa Claus told you, uh,
A wonderful it's a wonderful life for the Christmas story.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
A Christmas story only because it's.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Traditional for me.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Okay, I love a wonderful life. That's a tough matchup.
Wonderful life is better than a sixth seed.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
And I I agree. I said the same thing.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Because there's a lot of people who don't think it's Christmas.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
One hundred Christmas, just like Rocky for is a Christmas movie.
He wins on Christmas. I that and then what after
he wins on Christmas? And he gives that speech. Everybody remembers.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
If I can change and you can change, we all
can change.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I just wanna say one last thing to my kid,
who should be at home sleep.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
We did it. I love you, Merry Christmas, Christmas movie.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's a good point. He never thought of it that way.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
He leaves on Christmas. You see how you learn how
I'm Northwest and Central Michigan. Man tell us about that game.
I think there is one people should come to.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I hope people will come to it. We're gonna have
some tickets to give away on the Brilin Edwards, so
we're gonna do that for sure. Uh maybe next week
with your approval, but uh yeah, happy. I don't know
if it can be as good as last year's Bull game,
but it went six overtimes between pitt and Toledo. That
was one to considered one of the better Bowl games
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of the year and one of the better Bowl games
in recent memory. This one. I think it's important when
you have Bowl games. I think it's important you get
teams that are pretty equally matched. I think you've had
you have that on the game above Sports Bowl this
year on December twenty sixth.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
This is you got a second year. Last year, you
guys took.
Speaker 11 (07:54):
Over correct correct took over.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
So this year we're partnering with mid I don't know
if you've heard of Midnight Golf, but it's in downtown Detroit.
I've gotten to know Harold Curry and he helps run it,
and Miss Renee Flucker, who started it with her son
to help underprivileged kids in Detroit. Both young men and
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do you do that? You do that through life skills,
you do it through education, and you do it through golf.
So we worked with some of our partners to try
and help that, and I think it's going to be
really exciting and I hope it's gonna be a long
term relationship between the two sides.
Speaker 11 (08:36):
So I'm gonna make a recommendation. I think this is
one of.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Those days where we don't have to bs around and
kind of have fun and welcome everybody in, and the.
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Weather outside is frightful.
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I think what we know on the docket, what's coming
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Reason, then we can come back. I like that we
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He is a legend there. He deserves to have his
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Michigan football history and he was hired by a black ad.
What does it do to the black community. Teach us
a little bit on how you feel in that.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Regard, I'll just stick with the first black head coach
in the University of Michigan. Last night, I was just
very disappointed. I've known about this information for a little while.
Now now that it's hit the fan, and now that
it wentn't even step further with the potentially putting his
wife and maybe kids at danger, with the situation that
happened and why he had to be detained, we'll get
into that. Sticking with the black aspect of it is
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disappointing in the sense that I know a lot of
individuals over the years who have coveted that opportunity to
be the first black coach in the history of the
University of Michigan.
Speaker 11 (16:40):
He took the.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Opportunity in terms of pursuing of it, pursuing that opportunity
is something that they wanted to do, pursuing that opportunity
was something special. I mean, we know how special the
University of Michigan is to us as former players, but
to watch individuals want to go that route, to watch
individuals covet that job. I remember the first time I
even paid it attention was Mike cart said to me
and my rookie year, he said, I don't know about
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football forever, he said, But I want to be the
first black coach in Michigan's history made me start paying attention.
And then you look through the anamals of history from
eighteen eighty seven up until twenty twenty four, that had
never been the case. And then you hire this guy,
and yo, it doesn't matter what color you are in
terms of doing wrong doing other ethical things, immoral things,
or things in which I will not send my kid
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to the institution. But when you add that level of
it being a black man, it feels like an opportunity squandered.
Speaker 11 (17:28):
It feels like an opportunity wasted. And it's a deeper cut.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Today.
Speaker 11 (17:32):
It's not just damn my institution.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
The University of Michigan has another scandal, another blemish on
this track record, on which we'll get into. It's that
that coach happened to be the first black head coach
in the history of that program. I remember last night
watching my stepfather see Peace, See Pa seventy eight years old.
So you know, in seventy eight years of life with
this man is saying what he's been through in the
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fifties and the sixties, in the seventies and watching it
be where you get to two thousand and eight, whether
you care about politics or not, to see a black
president was amazing for my father's see To see Sharon
Moore get hired in twenty twenty four as the first
black head coach and to have a little bit of
something behind him momentum, if you will, it's an amazing
look for him. My father, my father played at Michigan
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stan Ewards. He played in Michigan in the seventies. What
he's seen from the seventies in terms of Michigan and
what was behind the curtain and underneath and what I
saw in two thousand and one, in two thousand and five,
to have this moment where we had one of ours
be a head coach at the institution, that we gave blood,
sweat and tears, to continue to give blood, sweat and
tiers to end money by the way, and that to
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see this happen and just to watch it unfold and
then completely unfold in which the manner that it is,
it's just a disappointing day as a black man, and
it's a damn disappointing day as a as a University
of Michigan alone.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, it's really a double edged sword for you. It's
the university that you loved, that you poured your soul into,
and like you said, you've donated to and you helped
make them a name and they helped make you a name.
And then of course, as you mentioned, the black head coach.
So it cuts deep for you done it. I mean,
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I'm talking about from a personal standpoint, not just from
a standpoint of your opinion on where they go next.
I'm talking about the hero and the now.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
Yeah, the hearing, and I definitely because deep.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
And then you look at the situation for what it was, man,
just the negligence all the way around, in terms of
the unpreparedness all the way around when you really look
at it. I don't judge anybody. Everybody's followable, everybody has sin,
everybody has their own thing, their own walk that they
have to go to a guy. But you just get details.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
And you're watching like you're an idiot.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
You blew this situation.
Speaker 11 (19:45):
You're an idiot.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
And more and more details are starting to come out,
but the block I won't even bring those in.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
But do you think the black community feels even more
let down because he was given this chance and your
words blew it.
Speaker 11 (19:58):
Yeah, one hundred. It's tough, man.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I don't know when we're all going to learn, but
that's easy for me to say. Okay, so mel Tucker
lost his job for the same reason.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
You know Sharon Moore was on the staff. How do
you how do you not know that you had the
head to have that had that conversation within the coaching Now,
in fairness to some of these guys, guys like Rick Patino,
who's a pig and obviously was able to recover. Bobby
Patrino same thing was able to recover. I firmly believe
tell me if you think I'm wrong here, I firmly
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believe that Sharon Moore could recover if he gets let go.
At mits he made a mistake, it eventually goes away
because you've been the mia culpa. You've said, hey, I
screwed up there before the grace of God go. I
everybody screws up, but I hurt people that I really
mean a lot to be I've got to work on
some things whatever. Okay, it's the second reaction after he
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got let go that probably keeps him from coaching again.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Well, the secondary action is not only going to keep
him from coaching again. The secondary action is also going
to if he somehow is able to recoup the money.
Let's say that they don't necessarily look at the contract
and say the event and what happened was voidable to
what the contract was. If he somehow receives that money,
this family is suing. So whether he his family's gonna sue,
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is the family of the young girl or the girl
also too. Let's start with the inappropriate, like he had
an affair, like it's called for what it is, it's
an affair. When you leave it out, there's a vague
term like it's an affair. He had an affair with
a consensual adult. He shouldn't have had it, and I
don't agree with it. I don't agree with having affairs.
I don't agree with having situations or sexual relations with
subservience if you will, because it looks a certain way.
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So I don't agree with any of that. But it
was consensual and it was what it was like for Sharon.
That second part, that second action, nobody will touch him like,
nobody will touch him, nobody will come after me.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I don't believe that anybody would.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Came after him before that because realistically, I don't think
he was the coach for the job. What I think
was Sharon Moore was in the right place at the
right time, because in January of twenty twenty four, after
your savior, Jim Harbaugh left you guys in the middle
of the night with no warning, who the hell was
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Ward supposed to hire on January January twelfth, after the
signing day is over, recruits are done, the transfer portal
was done, donors are done. With that particular period, who
the hell gets hired that day? So you hired Sharon
because he was on the staff, because you didn't have
a problem when he won the Penn State game and
he cried, which would have been a red flag that
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day when he cried and he endeared you with all
the things that no one had a problem, and then
he won the ohiow State game and no one had
an issue then. So if I'm Ward man, it was like, hey, look,
Jim kind of put us in a predicament. This will
work until we figure it out, and here we are.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
You think Jim Harbaugh, and I think it stems back
to that he left his team high and dry the
first possible time. Yeah, do you think part of that
purpose was also to get Charon promoted.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I don't believe their relationship was like that.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
I think it was a good one on staff relationship,
but not necessarily where let me set Michigan up this.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Way, because what he did was really set the school.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Up because now you didn't even allow them to time
then the recruiting period. You didn't allow them to time
to poach a coach. You didn't allow them the time
to tell these five stars that he's transferred. Guys, this
is who's coming in. This is where the program is going.
Kaylyn de Borer wanted to go to Michigan, and we'll
talk about him obviously because his name has come up.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
But this was in talks back then.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Well you can't get Kaitlyn de Borer because now he's
going to Alabama because they post him at the right time.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
But we were well, wait and see which happened the
year before.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
It's really derelicton duty on the part of Jim Harbaugh.
But if Michigan knew this is a big if I'm
putting capitalized, I'm bolding it, I'm underlining, putting in italics
whatever you want. If they knew that there was a
dark cloud of conspiracy or impropriety around Sharon Moore. It's
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also a derelict in duty at Michigan for them to
not be able to get a guy almost right away. Now,
maybe that guy's still coaching mentioned Kleem de Borer for example.
There's a lot of coaches still coaching in Bowl games. Right,
there's one guy, Marcus Freeman, who's not that I would
hope you would at least reach out to. But it
started with Jim Harbaugh. And now, if it took this
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long to conclude your investigation, if there really was some
possible whispers in September that started the investigation and it
took this long, shame on them for not being better prepared.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean realistically, probably maybe a conversation has had
back in that particular time this was going on, No,
this isn't going on. Well, that's all I can really
go on right now. And then from there it's like,
let me get investigation, let me get information, and let
me figure out what's really going on.
Speaker 11 (25:09):
And then here we are.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
You know, parents get involved, parent reaches out, Hey this
was going on. Now, it's like, yeah, this is a
thing where you know, we can't run from this. This
isn't thing that we can sweep up. Part of the
conversation's coming out too is their linking Ward and I
guess we can go there to this fire war because
he hires Sharon or Firewarp because he was a part
of this firewar, because he had some help in sweeping
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some of these things up, or didn't oversee it right right,
right right, War didn't oversee it, so fire him. Like meanwhile,
this has been going on since Jim was there, Like
how many things did Ward keep under the rug for
Jim Harball? Do I need to go down the list
of the signs still in scandal? Do I need the
recruiting violations that Matt White's firing. I don't even know
what that says? The Monji Smith situation. And there's another
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one over here, the gag order. Like all that happened
under Jim Harball's watching, those are things that War was
trying to help in the manner until he couldn't.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
This is the same thing. But because you like.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Jim, because Jim one fair right, fair enough, he won
anyone at a high level. So we're not clamoring for
War's job. But when this situation happened. We're clamoring for
War's job. It's the same situation like and legitimately Jim
Harbaugh put War in this situation to hire this. Now
he's fired, and now the next thing is what do
we do with war Man?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
This isn't lobbying for War, and this isn't lobbying for
anything up there.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
It's just telling you what I believe I've seen.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I don't know the answer to that either. I don't
think anybody can say for certain what is the most
important thing for an athletic director? What is his in
his job title to what would you want him to
be able to do? Best?
Speaker 11 (26:43):
Raise money, hire right, and win.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Amen, all three in that order, I might dadd. So
raising the money has been good, higher has not been good.
Of all the coaches he's hired, really, Dusty Mayor's esty
may one okay, And people are going to say Brandon
Road he was on the staff number one, number two.
He took the team after mel Pearson was let go
to the Frozen four. Of course you're gonna hire it
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and Braylan Edwards and I after a Saturday night of
upside down beer, Barnes could have done that, and I
think I trust hockey knowledge. I'm just telling you that
was an mindset one type of guy on the shoulder,
you're up next, You're double shifted, all right, forty seconds on,
forty seconds off. I think it's I'm not trying to
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discredit what I'm just saying that it's a little sketchy.
Pearson comes in. It didn't work out, full disclosure. I
thought it was a good hire at the time. Netal's
a no brainer, right, Juwan Howard, Brutal Hier, Dusty may Good,
Chemeron Moore not so much. This is the most important thing,
the football higher is the most important thing, And I
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wonder how many people look at it because they don't
feel like he oversaw his athletic department the way he's
supposed to, which often for me is a little puzzling.
Although if you're going to blame a head coach like
Jim Harbaugh, like Pitt Fitzgerald at Northwestern when people wanted
to blame him, fact for everything that goes on in
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your program, trying to follow one hundred athletes, trying to
follow how many coaches do they have? Twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty eight and all the administrators you're responsible for all
those people, roughly one hundred and sixty, one hundred and
seventy people. That's a lot, okay, But if you're going
to do that for a coach, then you probably have
to do it for an athletic director. And that's why
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the athletic director hiring an administrator who's associated with that
program is vital. You've got to have somebody to trust.
Speaker 11 (28:40):
And now you're absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Look, and I don't want to keep blaming on Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 11 (28:43):
I would just say this though, with the war.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Manual hiring of Sharmemore, when you're hiring somebody in the
twenty fifth hour, when you're hiring somebody in that particular sense,
just hiring somebody with more than enough time to replace
the icon that Jim Harbaugh was. Whether you whatever you
feel about Jim Barball in that space, in the last
four years, he took himself to another level in college
football analysts, is that fair to say, yes, he's an identity.
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Ann Arbor became what Jim Harbaugh was, who's got it
better than us? Like, that's what ann Arbor became. You
can't replace that. It takes a while to replace that.
Michigan State still trying to place Mark D'Antonio, and he
didn't win the national championship. So not only is it
tough to replace that coach with regular regulations and poaching
and hey, the coach, then you know this is it
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that's tough for then you have to hey Jim, you're
coming back.
Speaker 11 (29:32):
Hey Jim, you come back.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
And also what you need to find is the regions,
because the Regions hired Santa Onno back in twenty twenty
three or twenty twenty and then Santa Ono is now
coming inserting himself in the middle of Jim and war
pushing them further, aparts jobs exactly, and then he didn't
do it self any favors. And if you don't believe me,
asked Florida about that.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Oh, that's right.
Speaker 11 (29:53):
He doesn't work there anymore because he's never did.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
He never got hired. He couldn't get through the.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Process one hundred. So it's just it's been a lot
of things. A lot of things have gotten Michigan and us.
Because I am Misigan, I always be Michigan, so us
have gotten us to this point. There is a lot
to unpack. And when talking about hiring the net coach,
throwing money at him, throwing the bag at him, and
come up here. Hey, here's X, Y and Z will
make you the highest paid coach. Come fix this institution. Hey,
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we it's on you. This is no longer the same
institution that it was before Jim Harbaugh got there. This
is not the same institution now it was before twenty
twenties started. It now has a couple actually it's named
a couple anymore. It's gotten instances enough to where if
I'm a coach, I'm like, hmm, let me think pause,
what is the risk of you? It's tough, Like I'm
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just gonna come up here.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
But you know the way you put it with all
those things because I didn't. I didn't think about the
president of the school and all these different you know,
tentacles associated you know what, dude, it makes it look
like it's an absolute blank show right now. It does.
When you put it all wrapped up into one big
box like that, people probably have deep rooted concerns, and
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rightfully so. Here's when I thought that Sharon Moore wasn't
going to be long for the.
Speaker 11 (31:11):
Job, Okay at Penn State.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
No, I don't I don't care about the Washington game.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Four.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, I really take your pick. Well, I don't care
think about that. No, you and I, you and I
think about you know, the emotional aspect a lot differently.
I don't care if a if a grown man cries
because of how happy.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Crying and willing are two different things.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Okay, well, the semantics perhaps I didn't have a problem
with it. I when they hired him on a five
year contract for about six million dollars a year, then
I said, that's a problem.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
And his Michigan is not a six and a half
men half a job.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
You're damn right, is that? You know what he ranks, amos.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
That's like Schottenheimer four and a half million of coach Cowboys.
They're worth ten billions?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, come on, right? And how much does a guy
make before three? Where does he? Where does he rank?
He ranks fortieth? Based on USA today, he ranks fortieth.
If I said to you who made more money, Brett
Bielima or Sharon Moore?
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Everybody that you say is gonna have made more money
than Sharon Moore.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Jonathan Smith more or Charon Moore. I could bring Jonathan
Smith makes Jonathan Smith made over seven million dollars at Michigan.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
State right place, right time.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Yeah, I'm not talking about guys with big buyouts like
James Franklin. I'm talking about guys who were at schools
and maybe didn't have the chops behind it. PJ Flip
and Fleck made more money than Charon Moore.
Speaker 11 (32:36):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It makes no sense to me, absolutely none. All right,
row the boat down the road. Sorry.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
It makes it makes sense to me that he makes
more money in the sense that I think he's a
better coach. It doesn't make sense considering institution he's and
where seronious to your.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Point, we can have a really good debate on whether
or not he's a better coach.
Speaker 11 (32:55):
Okay, do you think Sharon's coach and P Well, I.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Don't think PJ flex a very good coach at all,
and people would think that he should be at the
next head coach at Michigan. No, he's perfect at Minnesota. Agree, Okay,
because they're not going to ask you for very much,
right because Minnesota, go, you got us stay eight and
four and we're going to a bowl game that we
can't pronounce. Let's go keep roll that boat, put it
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up all over. Can you imagine I would love to
see Braylan Edwards walk into sham Beckler Hall and see
Row the boat in different places, because that's what he
did at Western, That's what he did in Minnesota.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
I'm gonna go introduce myself to another coach. Hey, how
you doing?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Berater than?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
That was up?
Speaker 11 (33:33):
Can I be on the side line of Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
But but can you imagine seeing that row the boat
or having the Michigan helmet and it says row across
it not please?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
All I'm saying is that's when I thought there was
a serious problem. When they hired him for that little money,
I thought, how much do you value your guy? If
Michigan wants to get the right person, they've got to
go out and spend not only on the head coach
like they did with Harbaugh, but on their staff as.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Well also too. It's just such a situation.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Let's go back a little bit, like let's take Harball
even laid out of the equation.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
What happened while Harball was there.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
It led to what It led to sanctions, It led
to probations, It led to these things like if I'm
trying to come to an institution, and you tell me
he we want you, We're going to pay this, but oh,
by the way, you have to start here, and oh,
by the way, there may be some more things coming
down the pipeline. Another reason why Sharon was higher and
was also paid little is because one will necessarily believe
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that you're the guy, so you might be a stop
gap for whatever's coming down the NCAA pipeline. Or prove
yourself and prove yourself, like I think they're saying. I
think those things work together. And what their thought was
is Sharon, or we'll hire you, prove yourself. Also, we
know we got a lot of BS to deal with,
So if this is two year period of dealing with
that until we can get to the end of the
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rainbow and find our next guy, here we are. They
didn't in a million years think that it would be
this way.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
If you're if you're Michigan, the Regions, the athletic director,
if you're in that front office. I think the first
thing you do is you reach out to your big
donors and try to calm them. That's first and foremost,
steve all of them. The second thing all of them.
The second thing you do is and I hope every
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athletic director, all the ads I've ever talked to, they
have this list in their drawer. Wink wink.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
If you have the donors, are you pissed? Are you
pissed at what happened in the last two years?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, that's a tough phone call to make.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
It's a really tough thing.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
You got to do it. But it's tough.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Are they Are they willing to take that phone call?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
But I was gonna say, Larry, sorry, we screwed up anyway.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
You can cut it chet for five hundred.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
For what right, But if you have you've got to
have a list of five guys, Okay, not Burgers, but
five guys, five names where you're gonna say, is this
going to be my next football coach, basketball coach, the
primary positions. You have to be prepared for that, and
it needs to be updated every six months eight months
or so.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
You mentioned the name, like you you mentioned the name.
If I was Michigan right now and I was going
after a coach, there's only there's two coaches I would
go after. There's one guy in particular, He's not gonna
get the job, but I would go after Marcus Freeman.
I know Sharon might have messed it up for the brothers,
but Marcus Freman at all. You don't know Michigan like
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I do. But hear me out. Fine, let's say let's
say we're good. Let's yeah, they'll do that. We can
play that game too. Marcus Freeman is at an institution
right now, is getting punished for being the number to
have two losses. Like in the conference thing with Notre Dame.
Are they going to join the conference? Are they not
going to join the conference? No, damon, never join the conference.
Like they've drawn that line in the sand and at
every turn, whether it was in the nineties, twenty tens,
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and now they're drawing that line in the sand. Michigan's
are part of a conference. What you've built there is
right down the street. I would throw a bag at
Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
So would I, and I think Michigan would too. I
think I truly believe this, and I don't. I said
this before Michigan State Higher Pat Fitzgerald, I'll say the
same thing about Michigan. When you have a certain school,
you should never be afraid to pick up the phone
and receive the answer.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
No.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, Okay, Marcus Freeman should be a phone call, Caitlin
de Borr should be a phone call, Dan Lanning should
be a phone call, and Eli Drinkowitz should be a
phone call. Those would be my fourth Those would be
the first fourth there representatives, Those would be my first
four phone calls for all of them. And if I
go it's no, no, no, no, then you move on
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to the next one. Guess what does anybody know who
the first choice for Penn State was? No, but you
do know that Matt Campbell accepted it. Do you think
Matt Campbell's sitting there at a press conference going, damn it,
you know what? I was their fourth choice? And it's
really offensive that BYU's coach stayed in Provo, but I
had to leave Ames, Iowa to come here. No, he
just likes the fact that he's the next head coach
at Penn State.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
That's very true.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
But it goes deeper to what you first said, like
you really got to figure out what this situation is,
and you don't have a lot of time because it's
not about just you know, offering these coaches and then
getting told no by the top four and then starting
to go down that list until you get to name fifteen,
Like what you're trying to what you're trying to restart,
which is Michigan's in a start over Like this isn't
a situation where Michigan is going to just take some
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pieces and then add a coach and build on what
they did in twenty twenty three. That National championship is over.
The remnants of that are done. Like it's over, You're
gonna have to have somebody come in here and start
a new would you?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Would you think they should cut the cord with all
associates with the Jim Harbaugh era. I'm talking about from
coaching standpoint.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
The few that remain, I think they're gonna get walked
out of the door pretty well.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
I'm referring to anybody who is who has left and
might come back. So, for example, Jesse Mentor is the
defensive coordinator for the LA Chargers.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Allow it, okay, I.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Will allow it, all right.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
I will allowed because what he was able to do
when he was here on that defensive staff in twenty
twenty two, he was here, what looked like because McDonald
took up in twenty three, twenty twenty two, what it
looked like with him, I saw the energy similar to
McDonald's energy. Energy is the real thing kids bought in. Also,
he knows the space to a certain extent, has success
out there right now with the Chargers, they were the
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number one defense in the league last year, like this
is this is a special number. So yes, Jesse Mentioner,
for sure, I don't have a problem with that at all.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Yeah, please, I mean we respect all opinions. We don't
have to go too far. It's okay if you're duplicating
somebody else's thoughts. The fact that if somebody puts Brian
Kelly in the chat, it's probably not gonna get red
because that's not an option, okay, it is you're trying
to move away from controversy, not running toward it. Right.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
In fact, that's why I was very hesitant on the
Michigan State Higher although that was some years ago, and
maybe he's distance associations so from that, but that's why
I was a little hesitant on that high.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
This is on the little lighter side.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
All you Michigan State slappies out there, all the green
and white and everybody, you got free reign and all
this Michigan fans, we got to eat it. All them jokes,
all the jokes that are coming down the pipeline about Sharon.
Guess what, take them and stride because me and all
of us, you know, we went ham and cheeseburger on
Tuck coming Tuck this and all that other stuff. We
let Michigan State have it. So be prepared for it's
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coming back. Don't get mad, don't get the power, and
don't get the fighting. Don't not respond to your friends
that are green and white. Text like it's coming down
and it's deserved. So I'm here for whoever wants to
text me and crack jokes. I'm taking this dride. I'm
not going because it's deserving. He put himself in this situation.
And when you play silly games, as my grandmother used
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to say, you win silly prizes.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Let's get to some super chats because I think it's
important to make sure we're getting brillant's perspective and on
things that they want to. I truly believe this, by
the way, So that's why I gave you the look.
You're like, Ain're gonna play that game. I'm telling you.
I think Marcus Freeman is high on their list.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
All right, all right, and I appreciate and I appreciate
that optimism. I just look at it as they hire
another brother for a while, Nivas Michigan State, like Mel
Tucker is wronmore.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
They ruined it for a while.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Man, Bobby Williams before mel Tucker.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
And then how long did that take?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Man?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
It was two thousand and two. Mel Tuck hired in
twenty twenty one, okay, twenty years.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
If they reach out to Marcus Freeman, does that help?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (41:19):
Okay, I want him saying I.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Do believe that, oh who lay ruled his ires? First
time I've heard seen that?
Speaker 13 (41:24):
Why no, I just I just I just know it's
not gonna happen. It's like, yeah, I would of course.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
You don't think they're going to reach out to Marcus Freeman,
not with a real attempt. I will bet you, and
just I'll bet you say ebol right now from Smoothie.
Speaker 8 (41:39):
I would be glad to buy you that go.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Ahead. I would.
Speaker 13 (41:47):
Hey, you know what, the chat man, they've been active.
It's a lot of y'all in here mass that like,
but mass s matter like. But bras on the fire.
Jay Rod Sayers with the ten dollars super chat number
one crown right now he says, I appreciate your point
of view on this U of M news As a
diehard Wolverine fan. Today is rough, but I'll always root
for the amazing Blue. Looking forward to meeting you all
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in the studio next week.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Hell to the victory, looking for it, looking forward to
speaking of people and sell you Michael, were your happy birthday.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
People will come to.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
The tail by Happy birthday, Man, make the best birthday,
sing it.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Happy birth.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yesterday.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
See, I told you right now you can get maybe
some behind.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I know the story from yesterday. Listen to me. I
listened to you. I listened to you. I am not
one of these generation Z people were off doing looking
at somebody else while you're still talking to me. I've
got you.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
You know why I love yourself because you couldn't even
say gen Z. You have to say generations Shep and
Shep Man. You gotta love them. Man, No, but appreciate
Happy birthday, Yeah, go ahead, but you know it's it's
one of those tough days. But it's a tough day
in which you have to be honest. You know you
can't come here and give coach speak for lack of
a better word. Man, we see the situation. The very
samelast night, someone was put in an endangered situation.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
You roll that back and then look at what the
situation was for this coach.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
This is something that won't be tolerated. I look at
it if I were to be questioning situations for maticks.
Hey Maddix, where you think about going to school or Michigan, Well, yeah,
that's okay. How you have to think about what I
want to put my son in, Well, not institution, yes,
always the Michigan. But when I let my son go
play for or an answer would be numb. That's what
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This is a tough day.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
You know this, and your dad probably struggled with the
two to a certain extent. When you are handing your
child over to a college coach, it is not just
for football or to get them Brailen Edwards to the NFL.
It is the most formative years of your life. And
I remember when my son was getting recruited and I
said this to the coach where he went and played.
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I said, you're getting him at eighteen, I'm going to
get him back at twenty two. I expect the same
values that I'm teaching him for you to teach him
as well.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Okay, man, real talk, like but when not just as
a just as a single twenty twenty five thirty year old,
you'll hear, I'm going with this just as a single
twenty twenty five thirty year old, like you know much
energy is exhausted and entertaining different women, Like do you
know how much energy is exhausted?
Speaker 5 (44:25):
You cannot be this bet?
Speaker 8 (44:26):
Not?
Speaker 6 (44:27):
Well you've married what I'm saying, but like, that's why,
that's why I leave with it as a single, especially
like once I got older, like you know my thirty
and thirty seven, thirty.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Eight, I don't have time for that.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I say that to say this to be in a
whole relationship with a young woman that works for you.
Do you know how much energy that you have to
spend trying to do this and make sure it doesn't
get out, all while having a wife and three kids,
all while coaching? Yeah, the number one, two, three four
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brand in college football? Now you know why you watch
games and they look unprepared. Now, I wonder why you
see moments what coordinators should be called out on things,
but they're not, and it continues over a.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Three week period.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
That's because you weren't worrying about Michigan getting better all
the time.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
You weren't worrying about player development.
Speaker 11 (45:18):
You weren't worrying about.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
What coaches should be coaching.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
And maybe I didn't see the right thing when I
hired this coach like a Dan Campbell did with certain coaches. Instead,
you know what you are here doing, and it's taken
away from who you are as a husband. It's taken
away from you as a coach, a mentor.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
It dreams you mentally, it's dreaming.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
I remember that from being single, like thirty five.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Dude, I don't. I don't think anybody would want to
work with their spouse anyway, okay, or you know what
I'm saying. My wife has had enough time living with
me for crying out. I lot them working with me.
But you understand where I'm going, right. Everybody needs space,
that's okay, all right. He needs space for me, and
we work together a few hours a day.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
That's all right.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
I have no problem with that. The people who are
offended by that are the people who are the problem.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
Except you hit the nail on the head as it
relates to situation in the very beginning. There's no way,
there's no way that your own war could not look
up the road to what was going on in twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 11 (46:21):
There's no way you look up that road.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
You see what happened to Miltucker, and you can legitimately say,
but I won't get caught.
Speaker 13 (46:28):
Right unless you saw it happen before.
Speaker 8 (46:33):
But that's a whole other story.
Speaker 13 (46:35):
That's the one thing is if you walk in a
certain air because you think you can do.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
That, yeah, because of what you see.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Before, you're right.
Speaker 6 (46:44):
Crowding arrogance, they come before the fall, somebody like kool aid.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
You are so right.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
We all not.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
I shouldn't say we all, but you know what I mean,
especially guys in general. That's not gonna happen to me.
How many coaches have we heard where they go? You
know what? This dude was a problem there, But I
can fix him. Jim Schwartz, Albert Hainsworth and Tennessee. I
can handle Titus Young. I know how I want to
do it. I can change this guy. He went' a
very good player there, but bring him to me. I'll
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make him a really good player. We see it all
the time. It's a god complex for coaches also too.
Speaker 6 (47:20):
He hired this woman and gave her a fifty bump
in pay just to hit like, yeah, that's a corn ball.
Speaker 11 (47:26):
Yeah, go ahead, don't clip that.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Part, but pointed dog and I can fill it now.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I can feel it too. I think that's why it
was really important for him to talk on it. We can.
You can be disappointed if you're a Michigan fan wearing
a Michigan you know, tunic doesn't matter. This dude was
from the time, you know, he could change his own clothes,
wanted to play at Michigan, and then since that time,
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the money, going back, shaking hands, hanging out with friends,
talking with friends. It's a different light number one than
if you're just a friend, okay, sorry, or if you're
just a fan. It cuts much much deeper. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
Sorry for us? Is how how we cheer for Sharona?
Is how like white boys you cheer about Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
Face this is this?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Why is it always white boy? I can't say black
boy here, No, I can't anyway that would.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
Who were good?
Speaker 6 (48:31):
Just having some fun, serious, serious topics today. So that
was just a little just a little little little gloss
on that little blade.
Speaker 13 (48:38):
I like, I like this question from our guy Randall
Small number two dollars. Super Teddy says, hey, Braylyn, have
you thought about coaching?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Yes, I have so.
Speaker 6 (48:50):
Last week when we had Jabon Uh Gonzales in here,
Jamainica Zaalad's son or Saint Marriage quarterback back to back
state titles, we had him in here.
Speaker 11 (48:59):
I was talking Jermaine after the show.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
Mark Campbell, who's phenomenal tight end University of Michigan back
in the day, will be on the staff next year
coaching tight ends at Orchra Lake Saint Mary's one hundred
percent he is.
Speaker 11 (49:11):
I'm like, yo, what's up with the wide receivers? He says,
what's up?
Speaker 3 (49:15):
So?
Speaker 6 (49:15):
I think I would prefer to get in in that level,
entry level, see what it is, because you have to
spend time like I do, be.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Clapping for what you clapp want to sign from two
to four? How can you do both?
Speaker 5 (49:27):
Football practice starts at like four.
Speaker 6 (49:29):
Point thirty Lake Saint Mary's.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
I thought he's clapping because he wants you at Michigan.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
No, said, I said, it's the process. St.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Mary's.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
I'm going to be wide series coach next year potentially.
See how that works. Get in and you get my
teeth into it and from then you know, maybe I
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Coach, or don't mind. I just you know, I just
don't want it to be at the expense of something
in en George, No.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
No, but the high school practice starts later.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
I can be selfish, but don't don't tell me I
can't be selfish.
Speaker 6 (50:00):
Unfortunately, Mary, it's not too far. I'll be able to
make it in the perfect time.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I wish you the best,
whatever you want to do, that's all that matters.
Speaker 6 (50:08):
But to answer that question a lot more, and I
think it's because it sometimes you got to get their
in life. Well, you can't because somebody thinks you're good
at it, or because you want it because they want you.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
You have to get there. I'm now at the age
where I want to give the information back. I want
to get the knowledge back. I watched TV. I'm excuse me,
I watch the games in a different way. I'm like, oh, man,
see what he should have done is don third That's
the same information that I could be sharing.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
I love that. I think it's really important. I say
this to my kids all the time. If you have
the time, go give back because you learn. That's how
kids are going to get better. There's a lot of
good dads out there who like to coach. Good for you, Okay,
Braylin Edwards coaching the wide receivers compared to Chuck Smith,
you know who runs the dry cleaning down the store
(50:52):
and down the street and still has time, is a
lot different. Right. My son excelled because he had college
lacrosse play coach him. These kids, well, not that archer
Lake Saint Mary's needs it for crying out loud, they
won another state championship, but think about how they would
benefit from that type of input from staff members like you,
(51:12):
like Gonzales, like Mark all this old.
Speaker 6 (51:14):
A lot of people have poured into me and other
athletes over the years. Man, I could name a ton
of coaches, a ton of people, a ton of you know,
just administration people that have poured into me. And I
remember we had this coach, coach, reginal Hitting Bobo. Shout
out to him. He was great When I played for
the West Side Cubs, kind of taught me the position
on Sundays, how to release, how to catch the clock situation.
But then also Troy Kyle was on that staff too,
(51:36):
and not that he did anything over the top. Great,
But he was a former college player who had played
in the NFL a little bit. When he came back
and coached on the little league team, he taught me
some of those routes, and it was moves. I was
ahead of the curve in high school, sure and in
college because I had some of these NFL moves that
he was able to teach me when I was twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old.
Speaker 5 (51:55):
So it does go a long way.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Sure does good for you? Any other super chats before?
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Speaker 4 (58:28):
You got me?
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Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah Yeah, Let's let's get back to some more super chats.
Anybody who's willing to passionately support the Braylen Edwards show,
like some have, they deserve to be heard. So kool aid,
do you want to man a bark?
Speaker 13 (58:42):
Fifty dollars super? This is from Joel justph fifty dollars.
Thank you guys for supporting today, he says, Bray coming
from a state fan. I guess it's Michigan State. Let's
keep it one hundred. I believe Michigan and Michigan State
set Charone and Mail up respectively. They were just duble
enough to fall for it.
Speaker 6 (59:02):
Sure, but at the end of the day, like what
you do with your member is up to you. Yeah,
what you do, what your remember and understanding the situation
that you're in, Like you you're already let's let's you
know what, let's take color out of the situation for
this kind of name.
Speaker 5 (59:18):
We're done with color, all right, We're done with that
part of it.
Speaker 6 (59:21):
You're in a situation where Michigan is asking you to
prove yourself, like ask you to prove yourself. That's why
the money is what it was. That's why the situation
is what it is. That means you got to walk
a fine tooth call and you got to get better
and better and better. It means you got to be
doing everything to become the best version of yourself so
that when that conversation comes time, you know what, I
think you've outplayed this contract.
Speaker 11 (59:40):
I think there's more for you on the other end.
Speaker 6 (59:43):
So, yeah, did they set them up, not with her,
but more so in the situation just you know, just
throwing him the head coaching job, knowing he maybe have
been in over his heare, But so what he took it,
So like for whatever we say, he took the job,
he took the opportunity, and then he also took the honey,
which was not sweeter on the other side.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Yeah, that confuses me. I don't know how mel Tucker
got set up. Michigan State gave him more money than
they were paying Mark D'Antonio, and he was the twelve
highest paid coach in America at the time. He coached
there for what four seasons. If you're gonna set somebody up,
you're gonna set them up, and you're gonna let them
stay there as as long as they did from twenty twenty,
(01:00:22):
twenty twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Will yees three years.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
I'm sorry, but I.
Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
Will say to that, yes, if you're waiting to find
out how to get out of it, get yourself out
of a pickle. And in their pickle, they're trying to
get out of the money pay for mel Tucker, which
means they knew about what was going on. So let's
just wait until we have all our ducks aligned in
a row to be able to pull the trigger the
same thing with the wrong more Whereas that's what the
question really is.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Oh, I thought I thought he meant set him up
like Here's like you brought him in knowing he was
gonna fail. Who in their right mind, as an athletic
director hires a guy and says, I know this guy's
gonna fail, but I'm gonnaive him the job. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Michigan State.
Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
I have the director's last years to me that it makes.
Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Absolutely no sense. I don't think Michigan State said. So,
let me get this straight. He gets the job. Both
these guys get the job. They screw around, they screw up,
and it's back on the school. How about some self
depreification here, Okay, how about those guys screwed up. I
don't care what color they are. I don't care what
they were brought in to do, and I don't care
(01:01:26):
what school they were coaching. They were given an opportunity.
They blew it. I would say that about whomever is
coaching male, female, white, black. It doesn't matter to me.
Go ahead, you know what.
Speaker 13 (01:01:38):
Shout out to Michael Werry on his birthday, he had
made twenty dollars.
Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
Super chep man.
Speaker 13 (01:01:45):
You know the people are really supporting it, says again, Bray,
Have you seriously though thought about coaching.
Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
They're doubling down.
Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Bro, Why do you keep reading these they sent We
gotta read It's different ones, not panicking. I'm getting disturbed.
That's a completely which is a good heavy metal disturbed.
Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
I don't know man like coaching, and I might be bad.
Look right about now, man, you know what I'm saying.
I've been on a straight and narrow I don't even.
Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
But we'll see.
Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
Like one of them said, I'm seriously, I'm dead serious
from the conversation I had with Jermain last excuse me,
Coach Gonzales last week, and I'm gonna get on that
staff and I'm gonna see and see where it could
take me. But starting with high school wide receivers. Yeah,
because that's what I love is you think you'll like it.
I think I love it, to be honest, because I'm
I'm the guy that always hates in air quotation and
(01:02:36):
I hates hate such a strong word. I'm always annoyed
that I have to go to football camps. Meanwhile, once
I get to people's football camps, I'm the coach is
out there sweating, running routes, engaged in conversations, yelling at
the kids like they're my sons, like they're my players.
So like, in going to camps and starting to notice
that energy and then remember everybody from Calvin to Randy
(01:02:58):
Moss to Tory h O said, man, you are here
sweating like that.
Speaker 11 (01:03:03):
Let me know that I actually enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
That let me know that for me, it wasn't just
coming out here to showface at somebody's camp and then
go do all the things that come with the camp weekend.
As I know, you know, no, I was out there
really diving into it and trying to help them and
listening to the questions. So that starts sparking and piquing
my interests. And now here we are, so yeah, we'd.
Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Love to come film that would that be awesome, that'd
be awesome.
Speaker 13 (01:03:27):
I don't even know if he's gonna get to say so,
we's gonna be out the supporting I guy, I'm gonna
be I'm gonna be Connor Stallions up there.
Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
He's not even a glasses You're not even gonna know
him there.
Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
There was There was.
Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
Not every one time somebody said fire GM when that
was going on.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Okay, any any others before we move on to Lions.
Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 13 (01:03:49):
Definitely a lot. And if we have we could save
some of these four. Uh, let's go back, let's let's
get to them.
Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
There's a here today.
Speaker 11 (01:03:56):
I'm saying that man shout out to the Lions man.
Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Julian and I have to shock the world Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Oh that sounds like an early production.
Speaker 11 (01:04:03):
That's called just joking.
Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
We can get in that conversation too.
Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
He didn't even use it as a tease. He was like, no,
I'm not even saying you.
Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
Know what, Luckily, I don't have to pick who I
want to win the game or who I believe to
win the game until tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
So the day is uh, we just got to pick
one game tonight.
Speaker 13 (01:04:19):
Hey, hey, you know Julius Hampton four nine super chat
from Julian Hampton didn't even say anything, just sent into support.
Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
So shout out to Julian. Thanks for DN.
Speaker 13 (01:04:29):
See nine super chanses. Do you guys think that Bryce
Underwood is going to transfer out? Also, that's that question
coming and more came.
Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Oops.
Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
That is a big question, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
That was a question that you and I talked about
before all this even happened after that High State game
when you look at the fact that he threw for
sixty three yards in that game, and you look at
the fact that it doesn't seem as though the player
development is where it once was in the University of Michigan,
and you're talking about a guy that you know, LSU
still want some player.
Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
He's still one.
Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
With a guy who has proven he can develop quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
So yeah, I think that's a real conversation. And to
be honest, here's a better question. Why ship Brice under
was day.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Does it depend on who comes in next.
Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Class?
Speaker 11 (01:05:19):
Didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
The overly class was ranked, depending on the website, eleventh
in the country. Here's how I would sell it to
him if I were coming in as a head coach,
which would be pretty funny and you would be my
but I would say, we had six freshman a red
shirt freshman on the offense. We've got a very highly
(01:05:40):
touted class coming in. We're going to be really good
next year. We had three red shirt offensive linemen. They're
only going to be better. You're going to be better
because we're going to hire people to help make you better.
We've got an outstanding running back in Jordan Marshall who's
going to help us. Marsh was a freshman. The connection
you had with him, We're bringing in good wide receivers.
(01:06:03):
Stay with us, That's what I would be. I would be,
you know, strongly encouraging him to stay with us. Now,
you got to get the right people, okay, And he
wants to see.
Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
That, and my rebutter would be like, do you see
what my season was this past year?
Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
As it used to passing.
Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
Look, I love I love the school, I love the institution.
But I came here to get paid, and I came
here to be the best quarterback that I can be.
I came here to throw for four thousand yards. I
came here to throw for forty touchdowns. And right now
I'm not believing that this is a place where I
can write where I can do that, because you guys
are so caught up in the run game and the
history of what the offensive line and the history of
(01:06:36):
what the run game is. This is a new Daan
age like this is a new day and age. Give me, like,
what are the guarantees because right now I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Bryce, I appreciate that very much. Knowing that we've lost
our head coach, We're gonna lose our offensive coordinator. By
our design thank you are not going to have the
same OC next year. We have made it a point
to go get bigger wide receivers, wide receivers similar to
those that we've had in greatness at that position in
the past. We want you to succeed. It helps us
(01:07:06):
when you go to the next level and you will
be an NFL quarterback that we are talking that we
are going to make sure you have every resource, not
just financially and weightlifting and the amenities, but the players
on the field to make you successful.
Speaker 11 (01:07:21):
I want to extra million each year.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Let me make a call to the donor.
Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
You know what, this was a productive conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Okay, good that that can.
Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
You whoever's coming next needs to come with that energy.
Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
Good because that was a little curveball I threw you
and you answered that pretty You know.
Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
What, will you do me a favorite? Can you pick
up the tab real quick? Since you make more money
than I do.
Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
You know what, coach I got you? That that right
there is if it goes something like that. Bryce was
day because that was a that was kind of I hope.
Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
So I saw him before the game against Villanova out
of the practice facility. Who's there late working hard with
all of his teammates. He is a very engaging player.
I don't care. I do care how nice you are
and how you represent your school and your name. It's
really important. He's a he's a good kid, okay, and
(01:08:12):
a lot of kids that with that type of accolades
wouldn't have to be like that.
Speaker 11 (01:08:16):
He's like about him. He reminds me of KD.
Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
Remember the crack jokes about KD we were talking about,
but Katie only cares about ball. When you saw Bryce
said that, but I mean obviously in his corvette pulled up.
Speaker 11 (01:08:25):
Next to you.
Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
But when you see Bryce, he's amongst the folks. He's
chilling with football clothes, on football things and a year
A lot of stories about him at shim Beckler. I've
heard it from multiple people, and not just people at
shim Becky, so.
Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
He doesn't always have to talk to people. But it
took the time out. I went up to and said, hey,
by the way, I called your three state championships. He's like,
no way, that's dope. Coolid little He did not. He
was not in a corvette, which is surprising to me.
He was just a regular road truck. He was real
humble to man, we got to and that's what I
like about him.
Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (01:08:53):
At the bus, Jeron Bettis he had his foundation here
when the draft was here, a big event, and he
show up and it was really really humble. Everything was
about his faith, his family and being excited about the
opportunity to have parents.
Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
Did a good job with him from what I can tell.
The bus reminds me of you a little bit. You're
always smiling, very happy. Go ahead too.
Speaker 13 (01:09:14):
And you know what, Julian actually did send in something
and sent in another one D nine super chat to
make sure we could see it. What do you guys
think of a Dion sanders Hire? Not sure why people
are laughing in the chat with that type of hire.
He is a leader of men and he would bring
a lot of recruits and transfers.
Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
Dion warred Michigan.
Speaker 11 (01:09:33):
Man, get the hell out of here now. Like Dion
for what it was, it was great.
Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
He went to an institution and nobody cared about which
is Colorado, Like anybody could have gone there and they
didn't care.
Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
He went there.
Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
He took a staff that he had from Jackson State
to feature Heisman Trophy, went a quarterback and a good
enough quarterback to throw for three hundred and fifty six
yards last week against the Tennessee Titans. That what he
had and what he bought like that thing had an
expiration date, and I believe that expiration date was when
he got draft.
Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
The last year twenty seven and six of Jackson State
really good. The Colorado numbers not quite so good. I
don't know what people use for a coaches or a
player's resume that is good enough for them. We talked
about Anthony Davis yesterday. We talked about Lori Marketing yesterday. Right,
what is it you look at? Does the winning have
(01:10:20):
to be there? At what level? Like Kurt Signetti, that's
the name everybody talks about at Indiana. Look at where
he's been, James Madison, Elon before that, look at all UPI,
all the places he's been, He's won everywhere, every single stop.
Is that important to you. I'm not saying that would
be most important to me. I'm just saying he was
(01:10:42):
really good at Jackson State. Then suddenly he's a Colorado.
Granted I didn't expect them win national championship, but I
think it's okay to expect better than sixteen to twenty
one in his career. So I would say probably not
to that. I think there are better options out there,
and I would gravitate toward the better options.
Speaker 13 (01:11:00):
Looking at Blakelee in the chat the number three Crown,
one nine super, he says, throw twenty million to Cicnaty.
Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
Who cares make him? Say no? That guy has been brilliant.
Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Absolutely, twenty million is obviously a little hyperbolic.
Speaker 8 (01:11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
The only thing with Signaty is yes, he's one everywhere
he's been, but like trying to get that bring it
to an institution, like another major institution and start over.
Like he's not bringing his same crew that he bought
to Indiana. Now they're turning up. And then he went
in that he went into that conference. He went into
that conference and said, hey, I am about to be
the head coach of Indiana and the Big Ten. There's
(01:11:37):
an opportunity in the window. He went to every team
in that conference and got the best players and got
them said hell, yeah, I want to be here. I
want to play in a Big ten, and all of
them went with him. Like he won't be able to
do that this time around, and it'll be a little
more even ground for him, and it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
The good news for him is he plays a very
favorable schedule over the next number of years. I don't
know how many years it goes, but over a number
of years to try and get it done. Twenty million,
I'm sure it's just tongue in cheek, just so people
are aware, the highest paid coach in college football is
Kirby Smart At Georgia. He makes thirteen point two, So
(01:12:14):
twenty million is a little hyperbolic, I think, which is
one of my favorite words. I think it's a little
out of control. But I think what they're saying is,
you know, that's what you want. Okay, Braylan, how much
different do you think it is being a head coach
at Indiana and being a head coach at Michigan or
Ohio State or even Oregon or maybe Penn State in
the conference.
Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
That's a lot more different. It's just it's a lot
more that comes with Michigan. That's bigger than sports, is
bigger than football, but Michigan football, like whether it's good
or bad or whatever, it's very important always.
Speaker 11 (01:12:49):
So I think it's I think it's other.
Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Lot's other.
Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
They could build a statue for him in Bloomington right now. Okay,
alrighty if he were doing this at Michigan, he would
be applauded, but would be another one of those guys.
Speaker 6 (01:13:02):
Yeah, Okaycandal, that's true.
Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
Any other super chats that we want to get to
before we dive into lines in rams.
Speaker 13 (01:13:10):
Yeah, definitely, definitely Michael where he sends in super chat
just saying thank you, guys for the birthday love that
was a two dollars one to deserve it.
Speaker 8 (01:13:18):
He also asked any idea who in the interim coach
would be.
Speaker 13 (01:13:20):
I know, bif Pogy is the Pogy is the assistant
coach right now, if I believe, or the acting interim
coach for the game against Texas.
Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
So what do you what do you think he means
by culture? This has always fascinated me. What is what
is culture?
Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
If?
Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
If they're talking about culture and Braylan just laid out
the culture from Harbaugh and Sharon Moore, you don't what
what kind of culture is that? You don't want that culture?
Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Right? So?
Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
What exactly are we talking about here? It's it's kind
of like when people say I don't like this coach
because wherever he wins, he wins with other people's guys.
What are you nuts? I mean, it's hard to in
with other guys. Sometimes it's more difficult. You still, you
think any coach comes in for another coach, for another
coach with the same group of guys and says, I
(01:14:10):
tell you what, I'll learn your playbook. We'll just do
everything the same because I'm going to make that big
of a difference. They're they're implementing their own stuff. You
still have to follow them. They still have to make
the right right to make the right game day decisions.
They have to do all those things. So I'm wondering
what culture How do we define culture? Do you think.
Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
Cultures and changes every day in terms of where in
the description? But what what people with multiple places they've
gone and one with other people's team. I think that
happens like once you'll go somewhere and win like that
year two years, All right, what's on you?
Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
What do you have?
Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
But I have to sell you if I'm if I'm
your coach and you came in with another coach and
I want Braylan Edwards to stay, I have to sell
you on myself. I have to sell you on the
fact that I'm going to be beneficial for you to
get to work you want to go, and then you're
going to recognize it on game day, You're going to
recognize it during practice. You're going to figure out whether
(01:15:07):
or not this guy's worth fighting for.
Speaker 6 (01:15:10):
Coaches already exist, they're already in place, but coaches evolved,
and I think that's what happens. Like coaches evolved now
as a player, and I'm looking at you, do I
feel like you're somebody that can evolve this culture. I
feel like you're somebody that can add to what the
culture already is. Like Jim Harbaugh in the last four
years of what it was, added to what the culture was.
And the culture at Michigan not necessarily was open to
(01:15:31):
listening to the players, talking to the players, having an
open door policy, having a little bit more fun, a
little bit more laid back. A lot of the things
that they did was a lot different. Jim Harbaugh in
twenty one to twenty four added twenty one to twenty
three added to what the culture was at Michigan. So
now on top of tradition and winning and all this
other stuff, now as all this is cool, this is
actually trending, this is what's going on, This is oh okay,
(01:15:52):
this is so you got to add to a culture
is ever evolving? Like, do I believe you're a guy
that can evolve a culture?
Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Build it?
Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
Building can make it make it even stronger.
Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Ye sixteen after the hour, anymore, kol aid before you.
Speaker 8 (01:16:06):
Got three more? I can zip through one of them
from Michael.
Speaker 13 (01:16:10):
It's just a one dollar super chat they just sent
it in for support, so shout out QB Michael, I
see you in the chat. And then we also have
a couple more here Randall Small's two dollars super chat.
I just want to throw some laws to Tony and
Nice from Fairris State. He says, great coaches and Michael
go blue one Undy nine.
Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
He just wants your overall thoughts on the future of
Michigan football.
Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
Michigan football will always be all right, man. They got money,
and they got the donors. You got the power, like
Michigan will always be Michigan. That's one thing you never
have to worry about. It's just how long is it
going to take it to get back to that like that?
How long is it gonna take it? You know, because
nobody has time to be waiting twenty years like we
did from twenty twenty, two thousand and four to twenty
twenty one. So how fast is it gonna take? But
(01:16:54):
Michigan's gonna be all right, man. They got the biggest
donort system in the public school instance that everybody knows.
You can je me throw a rocket hit a Michigan
alum anywhere in the world. Michigan will be fine. We
just got to get on the same damn page. That's
what has to happen. Michigan as alums, Michigan as the
football program, the regions ad. Everybody's gotta get on the
(01:17:15):
same damn page. That is what's gonna help Michigan through this.
Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
Uh it's a storm, yeah, but they need leadership to
align everybody hundred percent. And I've said this at nauseum,
and I know people will probably roll the rise if
if I'm going through an interview process with certain coaches,
I want some of my doesn't have to be Brillian Edwards,
it don't have to be stand Edwards, but I want
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some of my past grades in the room to ask
a question or two. I'm not going to tell you you're
making the decision. This is my decision. I'm the athletic director.
But I'm going to extend that invite to some important
alumni who know who I think and I respect, will say,
you know what I would play for this guy?
Speaker 11 (01:17:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
I think that's really important, And I don't know why
more don't do it. Maybe I'm way off base, maybe
I'm the dumbass in this whole thing, but I really
think I think it's important because I don't know what
it's like to play for him. He does, this guy does,
this guy does. Bring him in, Brian Greasy, bring him in.
He's been a coach. He knows what players respond to.
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Braylan knows what players respond to. That's what I would do.
As far as Tony, and he's right, Tony Denise was
an unbelievable coach. He was an unbelievable coach at Jennison,
unbelievable coach at Pioneer Muskegan of course, where he went
like one hundred and sixty five or whatever it was,
forty one Grand Rapids Junior College, and now at Fairris State.
(01:18:44):
He wins it a place I don't know if you've
ever been to Big Rapids. With all due respect, not
a lot to do there. He's one hundred and fifty
and twenty one. He wins championships there. He's the best
Division two program in the country, bar nunt. He's sixty three.
I don't think there's suggesting he would be the Michigan coach.
(01:19:06):
Why a mid major program hasn't gone and gotten him
is beyond me. I mean, how Central, Western or Eastern
have gone through a lot of coaches and not tapped
on his door and said, could you please come here?
Is stupid? He's a brilliant offensive mind it, really he
really is. He's a he's a really good football coach.
(01:19:27):
So thank you for that. That's that's good advice for
anybody who may not know who Tony Denice was, who
has wanted every stop. Montrose was the other place Montrose
and Muskegan primarily in high school. All right, when we
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That it has been. It has flown by here today.
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But this show is is just I mean, it's like
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So the Lions and the Rams play on Sunday. This
is probably the best team Detroit plays. What concerns you
(01:24:20):
most about battling the Rams in LA I know it's
not the home field because they don't draw that many.
There might be as many Lions fans there is as
Rams crowd in the crowd just a row.
Speaker 11 (01:24:31):
I mean, it's the row games playing on the road.
Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
It doesn't necessarily matter that you're playing against I mean
in a place that doesn't have home field advantage. I
think the flip side is the conversation we need to
start having. I think one of the big things we
keep talking about Detroit on what's the level and what
do you worry about? What's the Rams worry about? What
do they worry about because I got an angling in
the space that I like the Lions versus the Rams
this week.
Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
Wow, here's what I would guess. And I probably wasn't
convinced of this until you brought up on Monday that
the Rams alon too many points by the Cardinals, too
many yards by the Cardinals. Now you and I have
had this discussion. I don't care how many yards you
get twenty to twenty. I care about it whether you
can score on me. And I think their defense is legit.
(01:25:13):
It has been steady most of the year, and it's
the front four. I didn't pay attention enough until the
week of the Minnesota game when you said the Minnesota
front four concerns me, and he said, and then you
ticked off all the different teams that they've got coming up,
and the front fours of those teams, the Rams were
one of those. So do I think Detroit can score
(01:25:35):
with the Rams? You know, in a perfect scenario, probably,
But are they going to be able to run the
football against that front four? I'm worried about.
Speaker 11 (01:25:45):
That, all right. And I understand that though what offense is?
What offense?
Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
Do you like better to Cards and the Lions currently Lions.
What offense do you like better, Panthers or the Lions.
Lions the forty nine ers or the Lions currently appreciate it.
I agree with you on all three of those. Those
teams scored twenty six, thirty one, and seventeen. And when
they start scoring points over the last month over the Rams,
it's because Quinton Lake has been out. It's because mcquarry
(01:26:11):
has been on. Mcquariy's the number two DV.
Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
That's the one they went and got.
Speaker 6 (01:26:14):
That's the one they went and got into trade as
soon as they got And what was the conversation that
you and I had, That was a great move by
the Rams. They went kind of short up the one
place where they were kind of weak, which is the secondary.
Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
He's on Ir Quenton Lake's on Ir.
Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
Harvenstein, although that's on defense, and then Byron Young is
banged up, their starting linebacker. That's when the points started happening.
That's when you started to see chinks in the armor.
That's when you see Michael Wilson going four eleven catches.
That's when you see Chuba Hubbard and Dondille switching up
with Terry mccauy.
Speaker 11 (01:26:42):
That's when you see those chinks in the armor.
Speaker 6 (01:26:45):
And when I saw from the Lions, I've seen four
weeks now from Jamo, I've seen what he can be.
Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
I've seen it.
Speaker 11 (01:26:51):
He wants to make players.
Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
I saw a leader last week and I'm already saying
Brown'll show you why he's that guy, why he is
one of those guys that they call him. And then
Jamier has been doing jamiro game. And oh, by the way,
here's David Montgomery been looking for this guy. I think
the switch up and the pace, I think they can
do some damage on the offensive side of the ball
and make this The Rams like to pass a lot,
(01:27:12):
but it's easy to pass when you're ahead to schedule.
It's easy to pass when you're heading the game. We
saw that Panthers game when it came to a point
where the Panthers took the league. Now we're playing from behind.
Now we're throwing picks. Now I recognize some of who
this master staff.
Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Used to be.
Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
That's where the win is going to happen.
Speaker 6 (01:27:28):
You have to take a bach to that secondary, and
you take it bato that secondary, you keep the Rams
having to press against you.
Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Yeah, I think the Rams have to pass whether they're
ahead or behind, only because that's who they are, number one,
and you want to get the ball in the hands
of Pukadakua and.
Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
Two running backs that went over one hundred yards es
since he last week. Yeah, and a lot of really
come on strong talk about Blake corn.
Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Sure, and a lot of that is because they've got
three tight ends. They'll they'll run thirteen personnel and it's stunning.
They're one of those few teams you mentioned Buffalo last week.
Buffalo does this same thing that's going to be a
tough thing for Detroit to stop.
Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
I think that's the and that's where I like the
end on the opposite side of that man is they
can run the ball. They do run the ball for
when all that pass and Sean m Bay will keep
the ball on the ground. When Kyron Williams doesn't want
to run the ball between the tackles, he will bring
Blake Kornman to take over and leave Kyron Williams butt
on the bench. And the Lions have struggled when you're
(01:28:25):
able to get yards on first down so that they
can run, because now you can't put El Kwadem mohammedd
and now you can't put one of their pass rushers
in and try to get to the quarterback because none
of them play well in the run game. That's where
you same thing with Like, it's the same conversation about
the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 11 (01:28:41):
You gotta keep them in third long, excuse me, second
and long.
Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Yes, that's what I liked about the Dallas game. You
and I think we're texting back and forth. The fact
that Detroit would stayed ahead of the chains. They get
behind the change. It's really hard for him. And obviously
Jared Versu and those guys will pin their ears back
and Byron Young and get after you a little bit.
Young actually leads him in sacks. So when you get
in that situation, yeah, you want to make sure that
(01:29:05):
you're ahead of the chains. I don't think it matters
as much to the Rams because of Sean mcvay's offensive genius.
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (01:29:17):
And also too, the thing that helped you against Dallas
was the fact that you split up and want some
zone stuff.
Speaker 11 (01:29:22):
You can't go zone against Stafford McVeigh man. You just
can't because because of how fast he can read and
process stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
Also, this is year seventeen for him or fourteen whenever
he got drifting in two thousand and seven, No.
Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
Nine, So this is year.
Speaker 11 (01:29:34):
Sixteen for him. Like he's he's not tricking him.
Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Yeah, everything.
Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
You can't trick Philip Rivers right now. When you get
to a certain point, you can't trick these quarterbacks. And
that's why a lot of times with older quarterbacks start
to have success. Like, there's not tricking him. So in
the zone, he'll pick it apart. You gotta come after him,
but you gotta find ways to come after him his
safety blitzes. But if you run safety blitzes, you're leaving somebody.
Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
You better get home, exactly. And that's what they did
a really good job against Dallas. Campbell got home, ANZELONEI
got home. They're getting pressure in the face. The good news,
I suppose if you're a Lions fan it would be
that you can keep Matthew Stafford on his spot. He's
not one of those guys. I mean, he can do
it fine, but he's not one of those guys who
(01:30:19):
is going to get outside the pocket or wiggle inside
the pocket like Patrick Mahomes will.
Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
He's like Tom Tom.
Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
Tom will stay in that space and move enough in
that little six yard space.
Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
Jared Goff will do the same thing. True, not as effective,
but he still can. But he does slip and slide. Yeah,
if this team does this team have to win for
them to impress you. Is this the game that the
Lions go up against the Rams and if they do win,
everybody their blood pressure goes down? Or could they lose
(01:30:52):
the game? Play very very well and you still feel like, Okay,
I could see them running the table the rest of
the way out.
Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
The Lions don't have to win this game. But if
they do win this game, now that Super Bowl conversation
starts to open back up. Oh okay, Like they don't have.
Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
To win this game.
Speaker 11 (01:31:05):
They can play really good.
Speaker 5 (01:31:06):
They can look good, they can look.
Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
The part, and then I believe they'll win the last
three games and then they can get into the dance
and they.
Speaker 5 (01:31:11):
Can figure it out.
Speaker 11 (01:31:12):
They'll take that last spot.
Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
They'll be hot as firecracker, and they can roll in
the next space they play, especially maybe the first round
they beat the Rams.
Speaker 11 (01:31:21):
They go out there and beat the Rams, We're.
Speaker 6 (01:31:23):
Having a different conversation because now they control their destiny,
maybe even more than just making the playoffs. They beat
the Rams. It's a whole nother conversation. I think the
Super Bowl conversation gets opened back up because we've said,
at least I've said all year. Well, I've said all
year the Rams are the best team. I've said all
year the Los Andles Rams are the best team in
the NFL. I started the beginning of the season. I
(01:31:44):
carried it all season, and I stay that. Of course,
the Detroit Lions coming off the win against Dallas, their
backs against the wall, playoffs kind of looming on the horizon.
Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
You win Dallas and then you come back, go on
the road, and you beat the Rams in their stadium.
Speaker 6 (01:31:57):
When that head coach is man he can't already beat you,
When that quarterback is mad that he hasn't been able
to successfully beat you. All that's on the table, and
you go out there and beat him says a lot
about you. That's a different conversation, Like that's Super Bowl
open conversation, because who in the NFC is better than them?
Speaker 12 (01:32:14):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (01:32:14):
And the Eagles are falling apart, and I don't trust
Sam Donald, and I don't trust Rock Perty or mac Jones.
I don't trust what that offense looks like consistently. It's
a hodgepodge of individuals making players. I don't trust that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Can I mention the team that you mentioned before, well, that.
Speaker 11 (01:32:30):
The way they got to deal with them.
Speaker 6 (01:32:31):
But you'll cross that line in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 11 (01:32:34):
That'd be the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
We'll cross that bridge.
Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
But to your point, make sure we didn't forget them.
Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
No, we did not.
Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
You beat the Rams, though, now that conversations open back up,
the conversation is truly open back up, because I don't
think you could be the team three times in the
same season.
Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
It's be pretty tough. It'd be really tough. I've seen
it happen, but not in football that I can RecA.
Speaker 11 (01:32:57):
Dance you thought you were going to get or that
did surprise you a little.
Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
Bit, prize me a little bit. Yeah, I mean, I look,
it's a cliche, but there's a reason they're cliches, because
oftentimes cliches are true. Yeah, okay, so I mean if
you look at it, we can talk about that at
a different time. The stiff test that is the Los
Angeles Rams, the fact that this team has got to
find a way to develop faster pressure because of how
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fast nine for the Rams is able to break down
defenses and how quickly he gets rid of the ball.
And as we know prior to the game against Dallas,
no defense allowed opposing quarterbacks more time to throw than
the Detroit Lions at two point nine to nine.
Speaker 6 (01:33:40):
Can I have an old school this an old school
adage that's not illegal. I'm not telling you to go
out there, and this isn't the Greg Williams bounty gate
anything like that. When you tackle Matt Stafford, make sure
it's a longer tackle. When you get him on the ground,
make sure there's a little within the rules of engagement.
(01:34:02):
Make sure there's a little extra lay on it, right.
Because that back, as good as he's playing, I saw
that back in that Carolina game. I saw him WinCE
at times. I saw throws not go exactly where they
should go because of that back. That back, Excuse me,
I apologize. That back is a real thing. That's the
reason why they started season and they were real lily.
(01:34:23):
They got a lot of special sauce.
Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Going on out there, and they cannot win without it.
Speaker 5 (01:34:28):
They cannot so do what they used to say.
Speaker 6 (01:34:30):
They didn't say, go do anything illegal or cheap shot
or catching when the Rep's not looking just a little
bit longer. Tackle you laying on them, just a little
bit longer. You emphasize those spaces like the old school football.
Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
That's what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
Yeah, Look, that happens all the time, right. Yeah, there's
people in those in those dog piles. There's a punch here,
there's a bite there. They're not saying brother, no, no,
I'm just saying there is get that finger out of
here all the way you might lose it, all that
kind of.
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I'm glad we can laugh the whole second first hour.
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That's an Easter look more than a Christmas look. It
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Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
Bring some joy at yeah, you look at sharp.
Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
As always give us the bright look on what it
might mean for Anthony Davis. If indeed there's reports that
the lot that the Pistons have not reached out to
Dallas and had that conversation. There are other reports that
are the three teams that have showed sincere interest, the
Pistons are one of them. He's had something issues that. Yeah,
surprised a little.
Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Bit about that.
Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
Tell us, tell us how you come come back from
a knee injury? A what were the other ones? Coo,
ladies and.
Speaker 8 (01:43:39):
Yeah, yeah, the left knee, the left calf, and the left.
Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Growing growing injury.
Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
So explain why is he consistent on the left side,
because I know that that's the start for you.
Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
Know, that's the first thing you thought.
Speaker 7 (01:43:52):
I love, I know you you are not an ex
football player.
Speaker 10 (01:43:55):
I know.
Speaker 5 (01:43:57):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Now you gotta tell
something these people so I can start working. Though I've
helped a part of your education, I appreciate. I got
my notes.
Speaker 7 (01:44:06):
We gotta get a certificate for you from Pierce PhD.
Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
So what would be on one side?
Speaker 7 (01:44:12):
Well, kind of what we talk about, right, I talked
about once there's an injury and then you want to
work through it. You have a weakness and then you
change your mechanics. That's why I encourage everybody when you
have an injury, you need to go get that repaired
because your body is going to compensate. He's still gonna
get down the road, but he's not gonna wear that
one side out a little bit more, right, So I
always use the analogy of the car. There's four tires
(01:44:35):
in a car. When one's out of alignment, it's still
gonna get there. It's gonna wear out. Let's go wear out,
you know, inappropriately, but to the point that it's left
me left growing left calf. You're putting more strain on it.
When he wants to start getting getting through.
Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
What are we looking at?
Speaker 7 (01:44:56):
Left?
Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
Look at.
Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
He's not on the secret sauce or he's had too
much secret sauce.
Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
I think I won the bed within the first minute
and a half. We heard secret sauce.
Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
It has been some of that blood.
Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Blood.
Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
So it's overcompetition. So what you're saying is it's overcompensation.
Speaker 7 (01:45:14):
It's compensating to get through with how his training staff
should have had him back to proper mechanics. When you
start altering the mechanics and you play at an elite
level like that, where you get pound through it, something
else is going to give out. Right, So that's what's happening.
And the growing the groin is a tougher injury, right.
Is it all just unfortunate on the left side? Was
(01:45:36):
he not balanced right on the left side. There's a
lot of things we can pick on, but the easiest
one is to take a look at once you start
an injury, don't get it fully repaired. You're compensating. And
for people out there, people that are working the line,
you know when you have a right arm and it's like,
you know, your shoulders hurt, and all of a sudden
you're putting more strength, more issue on your elbow and
on your wrists, and all of a sudden your wrist
and elbow are hurting. You know, it all makes sense.
(01:45:59):
It's wearing at the end of the day. Yeah, that
was a long list.
Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
It's interesting, but Koli puts that together. Kool is not
a fan of Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
He put puts that in the litany of injuries together,
but only for Anthony Davis. He doesn't.
Speaker 7 (01:46:19):
A person Anthony Davis. I've met him a couple of times.
He's he's a great individual. I mean, he's very generously good.
Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
And it doesn't matter to kool aid.
Speaker 7 (01:46:27):
It does not personalities out the door. He's good for
you know, we're looking at we're a young team. What
do you be beneficial? I think, so I'm not voting
against him.
Speaker 8 (01:46:42):
The cat growing everything.
Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
So there there you go, right, the blue.
Speaker 7 (01:46:47):
Blue calf, the big the big gas trocks.
Speaker 10 (01:46:49):
Here.
Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
Well, we talked about achilles tendon a lot. This is
the achilles tender from here now, so you see that
it is a long tendon. Yeah, right, surprising. I didn't
realize that.
Speaker 4 (01:46:59):
Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 7 (01:47:00):
And then when I talk about when I look at athletes,
we're looking at the genetics of people. You'll see a
lot of long distance runners. They have longer calves, a
lot of players. When you see powerful people like if
you put Montgomery up here or give they're gonna have
a much shorter They're gonna have much more powerful calf muscles,
the gastract muscles, and you'll see less technically, you should
(01:47:21):
see less tended and that's just the way they're built.
When I say genetically, we're gonna we should start looking
at the sports science of it, This is some of
the stuff you start looking at and you start thinking,
why are people elide at certain levels? There's a genetic
I mean, look at this guy here, he's genetically made
to be more powerful as opposed to some other guys
that didn't make it this far. These are the big
(01:47:45):
hamstring muscles. Obviously of the other blue parts your inner
part which can run into your groin or your ad doctor.
So your ad doctor, so we add in, so it
means you're going. It's the muscle that pulls the leg
inward towards you and ended there. So I didn't know
we were going to have that today. Thanks one other
surprises today.
Speaker 11 (01:48:07):
Was surprised yesterday and depending on who you knew.
Speaker 7 (01:48:11):
I just got back into town. It wasn't big news
where I was, but I got very updated. And you know,
we talked about do we really can I can I
go here?
Speaker 5 (01:48:21):
Why not? I want?
Speaker 7 (01:48:24):
I want to talk about mental toughness, right. We talked
about Saint Brown, the mental toughness of him fighting through
things like that. You have an example here of mental breakdown. Right,
this is a man that we looked at that runs
one of the biggest programs in the country. Well, endorsed.
I mean, you've lived in the U of M world
(01:48:44):
and we talk about mental mental breakdown, mental fatigue, mental anxiety. Right,
You're looking at this man who was on a pedestal,
you know, and within fractions of minutes he cracked. And
that's the stability of the brain that we can't predict.
(01:49:04):
The who would have predicted this guy is going to
break down, you know, unfortunately put it himself in a
compromised position that he's now being supervised for a safety
to himself and to others around them.
Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
Yeah, because look, I mean, this is what coaches say
to players all the time, you know, after a loss.
It's how you respond to adversity. It's how you respond
to disappointments. That's what they always say. All coaches say that.
I'm sure parents say that to their kids too. He
has preached that, I'm sure to Michigan players for a
long time and then look how he handled it.
Speaker 6 (01:49:33):
I agree with doctor, and I agree with you on
that the mental side of it, I definitely agree. But
also this is why the hiring process is so important.
When you're sitting down and you're talking about hiring an
individual that is going to represent a franchise or represent an.
Speaker 11 (01:49:48):
Institution, and especially a high institution like Michigan.
Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
That's why twenty fifth, twenty sixth, twenty seventh hour higher, well,
you know that there probably wasn't a full on, a
full on you like it may have been if you're
interviewing somebody new, because that's when you get to it,
those eight hour meetings or nine hour meetings.
Speaker 5 (01:50:06):
I remember when Harbaum interview.
Speaker 6 (01:50:08):
For the Minnesota Vikings job, he said he was in
there for nine ten hours, said he didn't realize he
was gonna get interviewed for that long.
Speaker 11 (01:50:13):
That's when they want to break you.
Speaker 6 (01:50:15):
That's when they find out if you're really a coach,
that we can have take all this control and take
all of what this is. And they didn't necessarily do
that in that situation. And now where you have a
situation where it goes left.
Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
Let me get back to the injury thing if I can't,
because the Lions play the Rams on Sunday and it's
gonna be big for their secondary against Matthew Stafford and
the rest of that passing offense. Kirby Joseph practiced yesterday,
didn't practice today. The knee injury is something He said, look,
my knee is messed up. We know that, all right,
And he said, you don't fix it, you just keep
(01:50:53):
the faith. Why would a guy practice one day and
then the next day not is there and so swelling?
Is it a chance of reinjury? What do you think
your professional opinion would.
Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
Be on that?
Speaker 7 (01:51:04):
I think he wants to play on Sunday, and no,
over don't. Let's not overdo it right now. He probably
felt that, you know, there's game ready. I mean, we
talk about the old days versus now.
Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
Right.
Speaker 7 (01:51:15):
The old days is like take a shot, do a
lot of this secret sauce type of thing, wrap me up,
and I'm gonna play and I'll deal with the injury after.
Now the business of it has changed that Kirby saying,
I'm somewhere in between. I want to make it. I
got a bum knee, I want to finish the year.
I'm not gonna have surgery to I'm not ready to
say I'm done for the season. I'm gonna test it today.
(01:51:39):
See how it is on a Wednesday. If I mess
it up, I still got a Thursday, Friday, Saturday to
kind of recover and be have purposeful minutes out there
and he's a go guy, you know, is he gonna
hit his full gears? We always talk about gears on
this show. You know, fifth gear being as highest he's
gonna play. You know, it's hard for a d bag
to go fourth fifth true? Agree, I mean a receiver
(01:52:01):
can go because he's controlling it. A d back has
to react to it, so he he has to have
that fifth gear because that receiver knows you don't have
that fifth gear, and he's pushing you, and so does
that the whole offense.
Speaker 11 (01:52:14):
And that's why it.
Speaker 6 (01:52:16):
Plays a little bit better for a safety because safety
doesn't necessarily have to be in coverage, especially as much
as a dB, So you can put your safety in
positions where he doesn't, to your point, have to track
a wide receiver or I have to track a tight end.
So no, that's it's a valid point.
Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Valid point.
Speaker 7 (01:52:33):
No, I mean he knows his body, you know, as
much as we want to say, we've already said his
injuries there, his knees not gonna be one hundred percent.
I'm better at eighty percent than everybody else. Can I
play at eighty percent here? I think eight I always
use that eighty percent, but that's in his mental mind.
That's where he's got to be. Can he hit at
least fourth gear? I know I can't do fifth gear
(01:52:54):
because I'll be limping off the field. And then there's
the adrenaline of the game that you know, don't understand
underestimated a dryn aone of a game.
Speaker 6 (01:53:02):
Yeah, you mentioned Achilles briefly when we were talking about
the CAFMA. So Achilles relates to Brian Ranch and achilles
injury that he has.
Speaker 11 (01:53:10):
You know, what does that look like in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 6 (01:53:14):
Now, that's because one of the things about Brian Branch
he was a slower safety's slower the knocking him with
the speed although he played it left faster and I
believe Achilles is going to slow you down. Like, what
does that look like in twenty twenty six for Brian
he has a payday on the WEAB you know, or
twenty twenty seven ship.
Speaker 5 (01:53:33):
Where gets dicey.
Speaker 7 (01:53:34):
Yeah, it's he'd be technically should be back in six
to nine.
Speaker 4 (01:53:39):
Months, sitch and nine.
Speaker 11 (01:53:40):
Yeah, that's encouraging, Like, oh yeah, it's not a year.
Speaker 7 (01:53:43):
I mean, look at Cousins and you know already they
could have been back one on one pt Yeah, No,
it's a it's a six to nine month thing. So
we're looking at that. But what I said before is
he's gonna come back kind of like what we do
with Hutchinson. We broke it down where he's going to
be a step off with Hotchets, a different injury with
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the achilles Like you're saying he's going.
Speaker 5 (01:54:07):
To lose a step.
Speaker 7 (01:54:08):
Was he already considered slowest position? Yeah, slower slower. I
wouldn't call him slow. But the thing is his mental
tough I've said it before. His mental toughness is mental
smarts of football, and his grit. He's got all three
of those. He's gonna become a smarter, more mature player
now with the injury, he's going to learn how to
be different. It's not just pure athletic ability. He's gonna
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know the game. He's gonna do foot speed where he's
gonna get to that spot a little quicker than running
circles or doing that one extra yard because he took
the wrong direction. You know that's all gonna start happening.
So with him coming back, like I said before, if
you're putting me on the spots, he could be playing
next year and be have purposeful minutes. I think this
guy's gonna be back. He's gonna fight. He wasn't natchal.
(01:54:55):
This guy's been working grit to get on the team.
Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Right.
Speaker 7 (01:54:58):
He wasn't like boom On was.
Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
I'm like, you know, the second round pick, he was on.
Brian Branch was on right away.
Speaker 7 (01:55:04):
He's on right away. But he's not like the A
A list, right. This guy has to work to be
at the A list. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
I got you.
Speaker 7 (01:55:12):
There's some people that's just pure talent. I'm gonna show up.
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a list.
Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:55:16):
He knows how to work, grit and fight. You know.
I call it the Draper factor. You gotta work hard
to be on the starting line.
Speaker 5 (01:55:24):
Drapes, I see Drakes the line.
Speaker 4 (01:55:27):
His skid is a misky.
Speaker 11 (01:55:27):
He's always at Peak's house.
Speaker 5 (01:55:29):
Yeah, he's always there.
Speaker 7 (01:55:33):
Michigan.
Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
Yeah, seventh round draft pick. I think the red Wings
red Wings winter last night, by the way, four to three,
So it's a nice win for them. They're four one one.
Doc thanks Man always appreciated Buddy.
Speaker 7 (01:55:43):
So the mental toughness I just want to go back
to related to everybody, I said.
Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
Doc, thanks, appreciate it, buddy. He missed that part.
Speaker 7 (01:55:52):
For the normal people out there, realize that your mental
issues are there, you need to take care of them.
I'm not sitting here pushing the softness. I wanted to
be tough, but realize that it happens to a lot
of people.
Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
And don't be afraid as you as you've always said,
don't be afraid to talk to people.
Speaker 7 (01:56:08):
Yeah, don't be afraid to talk about it. But don't
over express your feelings either.
Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
Fair enough, you know our feelings for you. We love you. Thanks,
good stuff was amazing as always as always, he looks
it looks great and I love I love that sweater.
Maybe I'll give that to you in three minutes. Three minutest,
let's see if we got any more super chats before
to squeeze in before we're out of here.
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running through that like button today.
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Man, they definitely satisfied.
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Appreciate you guys, and if you haven't gott an opportunity
to go ahead and smash.
Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
I like button. But we did get a couple more
super chats in here.
Speaker 13 (01:56:44):
Gerald Jessup who sent in the fifty dollars super chat
earlier also gifted ten wolbersports chat members free gifts.
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So gift members.
Speaker 8 (01:56:54):
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Good people. I saw the people, thank you, thank you
so much. We're a good person.
Speaker 11 (01:57:02):
Especially daylight today. Man, this was this is just good energy.
Speaker 7 (01:57:05):
This is this is need.
Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
It was little community that loved it.
Speaker 8 (01:57:09):
Yeah, and my guys sighed for ninety nine super chat,
he says.
Speaker 13 (01:57:14):
Ask Jim cal Well, Steve Wilkes, Jared Giro, Mayo, Tyrone
William et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Extremely short leashes,
hashtag win coach black.
Speaker 5 (01:57:25):
Some of those some of those true, Like some of
them mao.
Speaker 6 (01:57:29):
Yeah, some I agree with you, one of them saying,
I mean Houston Texans and then they went through three
in a row, So I definitely understand that. Just it's
a tougher conversation when individuals put them in position to
get ridiculed, Like that's what makes the conversation tough because
now it is that element.
Speaker 7 (01:57:45):
But you did this.
Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
I love Jim Caldwell, you know that. But he had
a couple of chances. I think he I thought he
should have been the head coach, right, you can bring
up exceptions to every rule. I think for the most part,
you guys are one hundred percent right. I mean, I
could say, James Frankly get a long leash, right, I mean,
but then I could go.
Speaker 11 (01:58:04):
That's like one on Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (01:58:07):
He's a brother.
Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
Yeah, he's still black. Okay.
Speaker 11 (01:58:10):
The other thing, if we didn't tell you he was,
you wouldn't know.
Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
Oh come on, who knows James Ringler is back until
someone tells you he's like boy, hey, white guy?
Speaker 4 (01:58:19):
Oh God, I guess if that's the case that saying then, Eminem,
I got to make sure we know that he's white
because he's he doesn't he doesn't talk like he's white. Right,
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (01:58:31):
Eminem confused a brother?
Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
But what I was gonna say is you can find excuses,
and a lot of them. I think you guys are
right for the most part. Eric B. Enemy is a
really good example. Eric B. Enemy should have gotten a
chance to be a head coach somewhere. He was an
excellent oc with Kansas City. Quickly sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (01:58:54):
Yeah, we got one more randalls small so a two
dollars super chat.
Speaker 13 (01:58:57):
He says, when we and by we means alliance when
out who wants to play us in the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (01:59:02):
Nobody?
Speaker 4 (01:59:05):
Well, I'll be the bad guy here. I don't think
Green bayki.
Speaker 5 (01:59:08):
Is a crap.
Speaker 6 (01:59:09):
Yeah, but I give you lining to yourself because at
the end of the day playing in the league, like
we knew the Patriots didn't want to see us. That
was the third time we played, and we beat them.
The very first time, they beat the hell out of us,
the infamous story. When we saw them, we knew they
didn't want to play us. We were coming off beating
the Indianapolis coach like we were feeling good about ourselves,
and you saw what happened.
Speaker 5 (01:59:27):
We beat them down.
Speaker 6 (01:59:28):
Like if they beat the Rams or the Rams are nowhere,
everybody else in the NFC is even further on notice.
And the Packers, Yeah, they just beat you on Thanksgiving.
But once again, to beat the team three times and
now you got to face that team that's coming in.
Speaker 5 (01:59:43):
With seven games the momentum.
Speaker 6 (01:59:45):
Or six whatever it would be by then that's a
tough I would say even Matt Laflores would be tab
bit nervous play the Lions.
Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
I get it. Yeah, I think if you beat the
Rams and you have to go back there and play
them again. I'm not sure how concerned they would be.
I think it's respect. Yeah, I think that's the word
that I'm searching for. All those teams respect the Lions.
I don't know if any of them fear the Lions.
This edition of the Lions, We've got a role. We'll
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We'll go to fancy out the Christmas back, finish up
the Christmas Bracket. I'm looking forward to that. Thanks to
all of you for joining us. Have a great rest
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Is the one Brother and that was here with the
Brother New was Show. She shepperd be joining us in
about ten minutes. He's now on a zoom call right
now getting ready for the game above Bowl and that
would be December to twenty sixty after Christmas. It features
Central Michigan fire up chips as well as the north
Western wild Cat. A lot a lot to unpack today,
(01:17):
I know you guys are ready to come for me,
So we could talk about what's going on in an
arbor with the firing of coach Charon Moore. We will
dive into that, and don't worry, there's nothing to be
biased about in the situation. I'm going to bring the
acts exactly where the acts needs to go. I want
to say, what's up to my boy Brendan in the audio, boob,
what's up? Be how you feeling over?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
What you're doing?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Good?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
You're doing good? Oh? There? Good? Area is? I wonder
where you're at? And then I got my guy in
my right.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Hand to the right kool Aid in the TV book,
kool Aid you good?
Speaker 7 (01:44):
What up?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
No?
Speaker 8 (01:44):
Brother? I am good man, I'm fired up, bro up,
I'm fired up for today.
Speaker 9 (01:50):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
So you stood me up up in here man saying
this was the move. This is how we should start
the show. We will get with Sheppe and when she
then we'll be able to talk about Now we'll talk
about all the Michigan's stuffing, all the crazy stuff. I
figure we do more like a Mister Rodgery type of opening.
You walk in the house, this would be the house.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
He takes after this.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
Hey, is that type mockin his jacket.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
It's a little bit of a start the old school
love right there, rocking the lions to day. I didn't
run away from Michigan, but today seem like a little
bit of lion love. Before we get into the show,
how about we have a little bit of fun. The
holiday season is coming up. Tend is the season to
watch Christmas movies or kind of Christmas movies.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
So bring it.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Throw the bracket up there for me if you could.
Here we go, this is what we would do to
que time while we wait for Shep. And oh, by
the way, hello to the chat that was very rude
to me. Hello, welcome man, and appreciate you guys to
join us today.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Man a, right here we go.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I did not make this bracket, So don't look to
me when you see some crazy movie names on here,
like what the hell is?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
You know what? I don't know. Your guess is as
good as mine, but I do know some of these movies.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
So let's just have some fun and see if we
can get through a bit of this before Shep comes
on the show.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Where you wanna start at, lady and gentlemen classics?
Speaker 8 (03:00):
Oh, you said classics.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah on the.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Side, all right, Home Alone Verse Screws Screws eighty seven,
eighty eight. I want to say, Bill Murray, funny movie, hilarious,
but we won't need to waste too much time. Home
Alone takes this when I do believe the Santa Claus
or miracle on thirty fourth Street. This when I open
up to the judges. Now Shepherd's here, I'm pretty sure
(03:23):
Shep will tell you that a miracle on thirty fourth
Street is one of his phase that tends to be
the error.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
But I'm not check Brenda, what you got for me?
Santa Claus and Marlica one thirty fourth Street.
Speaker 10 (03:34):
Ah, the Santa Claus.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
The Santa Claus.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
Okay, okay, kool aid yep, Santa Claus.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Cam over there? What's the word? Man?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I gotta go with.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
Hey, come over here?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Mariga on thirty one fourth Street. Ooh, this is a
tough one because it is a classic. It is actually
a really good classic. It's one of the classes that
stand up.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
But I don't know, man, Tim they two man Taylor
AKA to Santa Claus.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I think he takes it for me.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
I'm going with the Santa Claus as well, Santa Claus
a home alone, all right.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Third one, It's a wonderful life. It's like black and White.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Man, it's like nineteen forty versus a Christmas story. You
will shoot your eye out in the words of the movie.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
What you going with over there? Cooler?
Speaker 8 (04:17):
That's Christmas?
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Come on, man, this is like Christmas story. Better make
it to at least the elite. We'll see what it
is Christmas story for me, Brendan. You shooting your eye out?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yep, I can't.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I know you are too, because you picked the miracle
on thirty fourth Street. Look at the chat too, and
see what they're kind of saying. By the way, see
if they agree with us dust far All right, now,
this one is a tough one for me because my
favorite Christmas movie of all time happens to be Christmas
Family Vacation. But the jingle all the way is definitely
a good one too. Ifamous Turbo Man Arnold Swartzenegger, what
(04:51):
you got for me?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Brendan, You kind of look like the little kid in
the movie.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
It looks like a little bit, a little bit baby,
A little bit, okay, just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I gotta go.
Speaker 10 (05:01):
Christmas Vacation Chris.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I'm talking about we got the youth on our side,
what you got from kool aid?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But what were doing?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Jingle all the way? Arnold Schwartzenegger and uh what was
his name? Rest in peace? Phil Hartman and Simbad.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
He walked up into the radio station with the fake
bomb the postal guy. What you got for me? He
seemed like a Simbad fan.
Speaker 8 (05:26):
We rock with can't say we rock with Simbad.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Alright, well, well.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
We're gonna have to split this one because I'm going
Christmas Family Vacation with Brendan. Ain't no way I'm gonna
letting Arnold freaking Chevy chase Christmas Family Vacation. You do
the split Christmas Family Vacation or Jingle all the way
Arnold versus Chevy. And I know you don't like Chevy,
so you so you got you guys may have gotten
a guy.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
What we're doing, You got your tie breakers?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
No one want to retired on so far Christmas Vacation
or Jingle all the way?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
There we go, way to come through right on time.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
We'll finish this, uh later on this week, maybe at
the end of the show.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
There's a lot to cover.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
SEPs Lo Uh No, the internet did, and I just
kind of took it. So we got home alone with
Santa Claus. Uh, Chris shep, what would you be? Miracle
on thirty fourth Street of Santa Claus told you, uh,
A wonderful it's a wonderful life for the Christmas story.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
A Christmas story only because it's.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Traditional for me.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Okay, I love a wonderful life. That's a tough matchup.
Wonderful life is better than a sixth seed.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
And I I agree. I said the same thing.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Because there's a lot of people who don't think it's Christmas.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
One hundred Christmas, just like Rocky for is a Christmas movie.
He wins on Christmas. I that and then what after
he wins on Christmas? And he gives that speech. Everybody remembers.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
If I can change and you can change, we all
can change.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I just wanna say one last thing to my kid,
who should be at home sleep.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
We did it. I love you, Merry Christmas, Christmas movie.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's a good point. He never thought of it that way.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
He leaves on Christmas. You see how you learn how
I'm Northwest and Central Michigan. Man tell us about that game.
I think there is one people should come to.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I hope people will come to it. We're gonna have
some tickets to give away on the Brilin Edwards, so
we're gonna do that for sure. Uh maybe next week
with your approval, but uh yeah, happy. I don't know
if it can be as good as last year's Bull game,
but it went six overtimes between pitt and Toledo. That
was one to considered one of the better Bowl games
(07:37):
of the year and one of the better Bowl games
in recent memory. This one. I think it's important when
you have Bowl games. I think it's important you get
teams that are pretty equally matched. I think you've had
you have that on the game above Sports Bowl this
year on December twenty sixth.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
This is you got a second year. Last year, you
guys took.
Speaker 11 (07:54):
Over correct correct took over.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
So this year we're partnering with mid I don't know
if you've heard of Midnight Golf, but it's in downtown Detroit.
I've gotten to know Harold Curry and he helps run it,
and Miss Renee Flucker, who started it with her son
to help underprivileged kids in Detroit. Both young men and
(08:18):
young women get to college and stay in college. How
do you do that? You do that through life skills,
you do it through education, and you do it through golf.
So we worked with some of our partners to try
and help that, and I think it's going to be
really exciting and I hope it's gonna be a long
term relationship between the two sides.
Speaker 11 (08:36):
So I'm gonna make a recommendation. I think this is
one of.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Those days where we don't have to bs around and
kind of have fun and welcome everybody in, and the.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Weather outside is frightful.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I think what we know on the docket, what's coming
down that people want to hear, So why don't we
say a quick commercial break, I'll do the first read,
do our.
Speaker 11 (08:52):
Reason, then we can come back. I like that we
can dive into it.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
We're gonna dive right into I think a lot of
football talk today, obviously for a lot of different reasons.
But I know a lot of people have talked about
the Michigan situation. It warrants attention, folks. I don't care
if people are tired of it. This man played there,
He is a legend there. He deserves to have his
(09:15):
say in this matter, and I think you should want
to learn some of the things that he can use
as an observation tool. Okay, so for sure about that,
and then lions and rams that we will talk about
as well. So stay with us on the Braillin Edwards Show.
I promise you you're going to enjoy the show here
on Woodward Sports.
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They don't fight for you.
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to keep it close to the vest, and I respect
that very much, so I thought of. First thing I
thought of was Shiryon Morris's wife and three children, three daughters.
They're not talked about enough. It's all about football, it's
all about where we're gonna go, It's all about him.
Those are the real victims. The other thing I thought
about Braylan is he's the first black head coach in
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Michigan football history and he was hired by a black ad.
What does it do to the black community. Teach us
a little bit on how you feel in that.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Regard, I'll just stick with the first black head coach
in the University of Michigan. Last night, I was just
very disappointed. I've known about this information for a little while.
Now now that it's hit the fan, and now that
it wentn't even step further with the potentially putting his
wife and maybe kids at danger, with the situation that
happened and why he had to be detained, we'll get
into that. Sticking with the black aspect of it is
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disappointing in the sense that I know a lot of
individuals over the years who have coveted that opportunity to
be the first black coach in the history of the
University of Michigan.
Speaker 11 (16:40):
He took the.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Opportunity in terms of pursuing of it, pursuing that opportunity
is something that they wanted to do, pursuing that opportunity
was something special. I mean, we know how special the
University of Michigan is to us as former players, but
to watch individuals want to go that route, to watch
individuals covet that job. I remember the first time I
even paid it attention was Mike cart said to me
and my rookie year, he said, I don't know about
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football forever, he said, But I want to be the
first black coach in Michigan's history made me start paying attention.
And then you look through the anamals of history from
eighteen eighty seven up until twenty twenty four, that had
never been the case. And then you hire this guy,
and yo, it doesn't matter what color you are in
terms of doing wrong doing other ethical things, immoral things,
or things in which I will not send my kid
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to the institution. But when you add that level of
it being a black man, it feels like an opportunity squandered.
Speaker 11 (17:28):
It feels like an opportunity wasted. And it's a deeper cut.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Today.
Speaker 11 (17:32):
It's not just damn my institution.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
The University of Michigan has another scandal, another blemish on
this track record, on which we'll get into. It's that
that coach happened to be the first black head coach
in the history of that program. I remember last night
watching my stepfather see Peace, See Pa seventy eight years old.
So you know, in seventy eight years of life with
this man is saying what he's been through in the
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fifties and the sixties, in the seventies and watching it
be where you get to two thousand and eight, whether
you care about politics or not, to see a black
president was amazing for my father's see To see Sharon
Moore get hired in twenty twenty four as the first
black head coach and to have a little bit of
something behind him momentum, if you will, it's an amazing
look for him. My father, my father played at Michigan
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stan Ewards. He played in Michigan in the seventies. What
he's seen from the seventies in terms of Michigan and
what was behind the curtain and underneath and what I
saw in two thousand and one, in two thousand and five,
to have this moment where we had one of ours
be a head coach at the institution, that we gave blood,
sweat and tears, to continue to give blood, sweat and
tiers to end money by the way, and that to
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see this happen and just to watch it unfold and
then completely unfold in which the manner that it is,
it's just a disappointing day as a black man, and
it's a damn disappointing day as a as a University
of Michigan alone.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, it's really a double edged sword for you. It's
the university that you loved, that you poured your soul into,
and like you said, you've donated to and you helped
make them a name and they helped make you a name.
And then of course, as you mentioned, the black head coach.
So it cuts deep for you done it. I mean,
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I'm talking about from a personal standpoint, not just from
a standpoint of your opinion on where they go next.
I'm talking about the hero and the now.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
Yeah, the hearing, and I definitely because deep.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
And then you look at the situation for what it was, man,
just the negligence all the way around, in terms of
the unpreparedness all the way around when you really look
at it. I don't judge anybody. Everybody's followable, everybody has sin,
everybody has their own thing, their own walk that they
have to go to a guy. But you just get details.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
And you're watching like you're an idiot.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
You blew this situation.
Speaker 11 (19:45):
You're an idiot.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
And more and more details are starting to come out,
but the block I won't even bring those in.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
But do you think the black community feels even more
let down because he was given this chance and your
words blew it.
Speaker 11 (19:58):
Yeah, one hundred. It's tough, man.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
I don't know when we're all going to learn, but
that's easy for me to say. Okay, so mel Tucker
lost his job for the same reason.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
You know Sharon Moore was on the staff. How do
you how do you not know that you had the
head to have that had that conversation within the coaching Now,
in fairness to some of these guys, guys like Rick Patino,
who's a pig and obviously was able to recover. Bobby
Patrino same thing was able to recover. I firmly believe
tell me if you think I'm wrong here, I firmly
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believe that Sharon Moore could recover if he gets let go.
At mits he made a mistake, it eventually goes away
because you've been the mia culpa. You've said, hey, I
screwed up there before the grace of God go. I
everybody screws up, but I hurt people that I really
mean a lot to be I've got to work on
some things whatever. Okay, it's the second reaction after he
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got let go that probably keeps him from coaching again.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Well, the secondary action is not only going to keep
him from coaching again. The secondary action is also going
to if he somehow is able to recoup the money.
Let's say that they don't necessarily look at the contract
and say the event and what happened was voidable to
what the contract was. If he somehow receives that money,
this family is suing. So whether he his family's gonna sue,
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is the family of the young girl or the girl
also too. Let's start with the inappropriate, like he had
an affair, like it's called for what it is, it's
an affair. When you leave it out, there's a vague
term like it's an affair. He had an affair with
a consensual adult. He shouldn't have had it, and I
don't agree with it. I don't agree with having affairs.
I don't agree with having situations or sexual relations with
subservience if you will, because it looks a certain way.
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So I don't agree with any of that. But it
was consensual and it was what it was like for Sharon.
That second part, that second action, nobody will touch him like,
nobody will touch him, nobody will come after me.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I don't believe that anybody would.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Came after him before that because realistically, I don't think
he was the coach for the job. What I think
was Sharon Moore was in the right place at the
right time, because in January of twenty twenty four, after
your savior, Jim Harbaugh left you guys in the middle
of the night with no warning, who the hell was
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Ward supposed to hire on January January twelfth, after the
signing day is over, recruits are done, the transfer portal
was done, donors are done. With that particular period, who
the hell gets hired that day? So you hired Sharon
because he was on the staff, because you didn't have
a problem when he won the Penn State game and
he cried, which would have been a red flag that
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day when he cried and he endeared you with all
the things that no one had a problem, and then
he won the ohiow State game and no one had
an issue then. So if I'm Ward man, it was like, hey, look,
Jim kind of put us in a predicament. This will
work until we figure it out, and here we are.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
You think Jim Harbaugh, and I think it stems back
to that he left his team high and dry the
first possible time. Yeah, do you think part of that
purpose was also to get Charon promoted.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I don't believe their relationship was like that.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
I think it was a good one on staff relationship,
but not necessarily where let me set Michigan up this.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Way, because what he did was really set the school.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Up because now you didn't even allow them to time
then the recruiting period. You didn't allow them to time
to poach a coach. You didn't allow them the time
to tell these five stars that he's transferred. Guys, this
is who's coming in. This is where the program is going.
Kaylyn de Borer wanted to go to Michigan, and we'll
talk about him obviously because his name has come up.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
But this was in talks back then.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Well you can't get Kaitlyn de Borer because now he's
going to Alabama because they post him at the right time.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
But we were well, wait and see which happened the
year before.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
It's really derelicton duty on the part of Jim Harbaugh.
But if Michigan knew this is a big if I'm
putting capitalized, I'm bolding it, I'm underlining, putting in italics
whatever you want. If they knew that there was a
dark cloud of conspiracy or impropriety around Sharon Moore. It's
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also a derelict in duty at Michigan for them to
not be able to get a guy almost right away. Now,
maybe that guy's still coaching mentioned Kleem de Borer for example.
There's a lot of coaches still coaching in Bowl games. Right,
there's one guy, Marcus Freeman, who's not that I would
hope you would at least reach out to. But it
started with Jim Harbaugh. And now, if it took this
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long to conclude your investigation, if there really was some
possible whispers in September that started the investigation and it
took this long, shame on them for not being better prepared.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean realistically, probably maybe a conversation has had
back in that particular time this was going on, No,
this isn't going on. Well, that's all I can really
go on right now. And then from there it's like,
let me get investigation, let me get information, and let
me figure out what's really going on.
Speaker 11 (25:09):
And then here we are.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
You know, parents get involved, parent reaches out, Hey this
was going on. Now, it's like, yeah, this is a
thing where you know, we can't run from this. This
isn't thing that we can sweep up. Part of the
conversation's coming out too is their linking Ward and I
guess we can go there to this fire war because
he hires Sharon or Firewarp because he was a part
of this firewar, because he had some help in sweeping
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some of these things up, or didn't oversee it right right,
right right, War didn't oversee it, so fire him. Like meanwhile,
this has been going on since Jim was there, Like
how many things did Ward keep under the rug for
Jim Harball? Do I need to go down the list
of the signs still in scandal? Do I need the
recruiting violations that Matt White's firing. I don't even know
what that says? The Monji Smith situation. And there's another
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one over here, the gag order. Like all that happened
under Jim Harball's watching, those are things that War was
trying to help in the manner until he couldn't.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
This is the same thing. But because you like.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
Jim, because Jim one fair right, fair enough, he won
anyone at a high level. So we're not clamoring for
War's job. But when this situation happened. We're clamoring for
War's job. It's the same situation like and legitimately Jim
Harbaugh put War in this situation to hire this. Now
he's fired, and now the next thing is what do
we do with war Man?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
This isn't lobbying for War, and this isn't lobbying for
anything up there.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
It's just telling you what I believe I've seen.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I don't know the answer to that either. I don't
think anybody can say for certain what is the most
important thing for an athletic director? What is his in
his job title to what would you want him to
be able to do? Best?
Speaker 11 (26:43):
Raise money, hire right, and win.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Amen, all three in that order, I might dadd. So
raising the money has been good, higher has not been good.
Of all the coaches he's hired, really, Dusty Mayor's esty
may one okay, And people are going to say Brandon
Road he was on the staff number one, number two.
He took the team after mel Pearson was let go
to the Frozen four. Of course you're gonna hire it
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and Braylan Edwards and I after a Saturday night of
upside down beer, Barnes could have done that, and I
think I trust hockey knowledge. I'm just telling you that
was an mindset one type of guy on the shoulder,
you're up next, You're double shifted, all right, forty seconds on,
forty seconds off. I think it's I'm not trying to
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discredit what I'm just saying that it's a little sketchy.
Pearson comes in. It didn't work out, full disclosure. I
thought it was a good hire at the time. Netal's
a no brainer, right, Juwan Howard, Brutal Hier, Dusty may Good,
Chemeron Moore not so much. This is the most important thing,
the football higher is the most important thing, And I
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wonder how many people look at it because they don't
feel like he oversaw his athletic department the way he's
supposed to, which often for me is a little puzzling.
Although if you're going to blame a head coach like
Jim Harbaugh, like Pitt Fitzgerald at Northwestern when people wanted
to blame him, fact for everything that goes on in
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your program, trying to follow one hundred athletes, trying to
follow how many coaches do they have? Twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty eight and all the administrators you're responsible for all
those people, roughly one hundred and sixty, one hundred and
seventy people. That's a lot, okay, But if you're going
to do that for a coach, then you probably have
to do it for an athletic director. And that's why
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the athletic director hiring an administrator who's associated with that
program is vital. You've got to have somebody to trust.
Speaker 11 (28:40):
And now you're absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Look, and I don't want to keep blaming on Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 11 (28:43):
I would just say this though, with the war.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Manual hiring of Sharmemore, when you're hiring somebody in the
twenty fifth hour, when you're hiring somebody in that particular sense,
just hiring somebody with more than enough time to replace
the icon that Jim Harbaugh was. Whether you whatever you
feel about Jim Barball in that space, in the last
four years, he took himself to another level in college
football analysts, is that fair to say, yes, he's an identity.
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Ann Arbor became what Jim Harbaugh was, who's got it
better than us? Like, that's what ann Arbor became. You
can't replace that. It takes a while to replace that.
Michigan State still trying to place Mark D'Antonio, and he
didn't win the national championship. So not only is it
tough to replace that coach with regular regulations and poaching
and hey, the coach, then you know this is it
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that's tough for then you have to hey Jim, you're
coming back.
Speaker 11 (29:32):
Hey Jim, you come back.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
And also what you need to find is the regions,
because the Regions hired Santa Onno back in twenty twenty
three or twenty twenty and then Santa Ono is now
coming inserting himself in the middle of Jim and war
pushing them further, aparts jobs exactly, and then he didn't
do it self any favors. And if you don't believe me,
asked Florida about that.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Oh, that's right.
Speaker 11 (29:53):
He doesn't work there anymore because he's never did.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
He never got hired. He couldn't get through the.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Process one hundred. So it's just it's been a lot
of things. A lot of things have gotten Michigan and us.
Because I am Misigan, I always be Michigan, so us
have gotten us to this point. There is a lot
to unpack. And when talking about hiring the net coach,
throwing money at him, throwing the bag at him, and
come up here. Hey, here's X, Y and Z will
make you the highest paid coach. Come fix this institution. Hey,
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we it's on you. This is no longer the same
institution that it was before Jim Harbaugh got there. This
is not the same institution now it was before twenty
twenties started. It now has a couple actually it's named
a couple anymore. It's gotten instances enough to where if
I'm a coach, I'm like, hmm, let me think pause,
what is the risk of you? It's tough, Like I'm
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just gonna come up here.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
But you know the way you put it with all
those things because I didn't. I didn't think about the
president of the school and all these different you know,
tentacles associated you know what, dude, it makes it look
like it's an absolute blank show right now. It does.
When you put it all wrapped up into one big
box like that, people probably have deep rooted concerns, and
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rightfully so. Here's when I thought that Sharon Moore wasn't
going to be long for the.
Speaker 11 (31:11):
Job, Okay at Penn State.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
No, I don't I don't care about the Washington game.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Four.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
No, I really take your pick. Well, I don't care
think about that. No, you and I, you and I
think about you know, the emotional aspect a lot differently.
I don't care if a if a grown man cries
because of how happy.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Crying and willing are two different things.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Okay, well, the semantics perhaps I didn't have a problem
with it. I when they hired him on a five
year contract for about six million dollars a year, then
I said, that's a problem.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
And his Michigan is not a six and a half
men half a job.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
You're damn right, is that? You know what he ranks, amos.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
That's like Schottenheimer four and a half million of coach Cowboys.
They're worth ten billions?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, come on, right? And how much does a guy
make before three? Where does he? Where does he rank?
He ranks fortieth? Based on USA today, he ranks fortieth.
If I said to you who made more money, Brett
Bielima or Sharon Moore?
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Everybody that you say is gonna have made more money
than Sharon Moore.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Jonathan Smith more or Charon Moore. I could bring Jonathan
Smith makes Jonathan Smith made over seven million dollars at Michigan.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
State right place, right time.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Yeah, I'm not talking about guys with big buyouts like
James Franklin. I'm talking about guys who were at schools
and maybe didn't have the chops behind it. PJ Flip
and Fleck made more money than Charon Moore.
Speaker 11 (32:36):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It makes no sense to me, absolutely none. All right,
row the boat down the road. Sorry.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
It makes it makes sense to me that he makes
more money in the sense that I think he's a
better coach. It doesn't make sense considering institution he's and
where seronious to your.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Point, we can have a really good debate on whether
or not he's a better coach.
Speaker 11 (32:55):
Okay, do you think Sharon's coach and P Well, I.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Don't think PJ flex a very good coach at all,
and people would think that he should be at the
next head coach at Michigan. No, he's perfect at Minnesota. Agree, Okay,
because they're not going to ask you for very much,
right because Minnesota, go, you got us stay eight and
four and we're going to a bowl game that we
can't pronounce. Let's go keep roll that boat, put it
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up all over. Can you imagine I would love to
see Braylan Edwards walk into sham Beckler Hall and see
Row the boat in different places, because that's what he
did at Western, That's what he did in Minnesota.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
I'm gonna go introduce myself to another coach. Hey, how
you doing?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Berater than?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
That was up?
Speaker 11 (33:33):
Can I be on the side line of Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
But but can you imagine seeing that row the boat
or having the Michigan helmet and it says row across
it not please?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
All I'm saying is that's when I thought there was
a serious problem. When they hired him for that little money,
I thought, how much do you value your guy? If
Michigan wants to get the right person, they've got to
go out and spend not only on the head coach
like they did with Harbaugh, but on their staff as.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Well also too. It's just such a situation.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Let's go back a little bit, like let's take Harball
even laid out of the equation.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
What happened while Harball was there.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
It led to what It led to sanctions, It led
to probations, It led to these things like if I'm
trying to come to an institution, and you tell me
he we want you, We're going to pay this, but oh,
by the way, you have to start here, and oh,
by the way, there may be some more things coming
down the pipeline. Another reason why Sharon was higher and
was also paid little is because one will necessarily believe
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that you're the guy, so you might be a stop
gap for whatever's coming down the NCAA pipeline. Or prove
yourself and prove yourself, like I think they're saying. I
think those things work together. And what their thought was
is Sharon, or we'll hire you, prove yourself. Also, we
know we got a lot of BS to deal with,
So if this is two year period of dealing with
that until we can get to the end of the
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rainbow and find our next guy, here we are. They
didn't in a million years think that it would be
this way.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
If you're if you're Michigan, the Regions, the athletic director,
if you're in that front office. I think the first
thing you do is you reach out to your big
donors and try to calm them. That's first and foremost,
steve all of them. The second thing all of them.
The second thing you do is and I hope every
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athletic director, all the ads I've ever talked to, they
have this list in their drawer. Wink wink.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
If you have the donors, are you pissed? Are you
pissed at what happened in the last two years?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, that's a tough phone call to make.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
It's a really tough thing.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
You got to do it. But it's tough.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Are they Are they willing to take that phone call?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
But I was gonna say, Larry, sorry, we screwed up anyway.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
You can cut it chet for five hundred.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
For what right, But if you have you've got to
have a list of five guys, Okay, not Burgers, but
five guys, five names where you're gonna say, is this
going to be my next football coach, basketball coach, the
primary positions. You have to be prepared for that, and
it needs to be updated every six months eight months
or so.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
You mentioned the name, like you you mentioned the name.
If I was Michigan right now and I was going
after a coach, there's only there's two coaches I would
go after. There's one guy in particular, He's not gonna
get the job, but I would go after Marcus Freeman.
I know Sharon might have messed it up for the brothers,
but Marcus Freman at all. You don't know Michigan like
(36:20):
I do. But hear me out. Fine, let's say let's
say we're good. Let's yeah, they'll do that. We can
play that game too. Marcus Freeman is at an institution
right now, is getting punished for being the number to
have two losses. Like in the conference thing with Notre Dame.
Are they going to join the conference? Are they not
going to join the conference? No, damon, never join the conference.
Like they've drawn that line in the sand and at
every turn, whether it was in the nineties, twenty tens,
(36:43):
and now they're drawing that line in the sand. Michigan's
are part of a conference. What you've built there is
right down the street. I would throw a bag at
Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
So would I, and I think Michigan would too. I
think I truly believe this, and I don't. I said
this before Michigan State Higher Pat Fitzgerald, I'll say the
same thing about Michigan. When you have a certain school,
you should never be afraid to pick up the phone
and receive the answer.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
No.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, Okay, Marcus Freeman should be a phone call, Caitlin
de Borr should be a phone call, Dan Lanning should
be a phone call, and Eli Drinkowitz should be a
phone call. Those would be my fourth Those would be
the first fourth there representatives, Those would be my first
four phone calls for all of them. And if I
go it's no, no, no, no, then you move on
(37:30):
to the next one. Guess what does anybody know who
the first choice for Penn State was? No, but you
do know that Matt Campbell accepted it. Do you think
Matt Campbell's sitting there at a press conference going, damn it,
you know what? I was their fourth choice? And it's
really offensive that BYU's coach stayed in Provo, but I
had to leave Ames, Iowa to come here. No, he
just likes the fact that he's the next head coach
at Penn State.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
That's very true.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
But it goes deeper to what you first said, like
you really got to figure out what this situation is,
and you don't have a lot of time because it's
not about just you know, offering these coaches and then
getting told no by the top four and then starting
to go down that list until you get to name fifteen,
Like what you're trying to what you're trying to restart,
which is Michigan's in a start over Like this isn't
a situation where Michigan is going to just take some
(38:15):
pieces and then add a coach and build on what
they did in twenty twenty three. That National championship is over.
The remnants of that are done. Like it's over, You're
gonna have to have somebody come in here and start
a new would you?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Would you think they should cut the cord with all
associates with the Jim Harbaugh era. I'm talking about from
coaching standpoint.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
The few that remain, I think they're gonna get walked
out of the door pretty well.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
I'm referring to anybody who is who has left and
might come back. So, for example, Jesse Mentor is the
defensive coordinator for the LA Chargers.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Allow it, okay, I.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Will allow it, all right.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
I will allowed because what he was able to do
when he was here on that defensive staff in twenty
twenty two, he was here, what looked like because McDonald
took up in twenty three, twenty twenty two, what it
looked like with him, I saw the energy similar to
McDonald's energy. Energy is the real thing kids bought in. Also,
he knows the space to a certain extent, has success
out there right now with the Chargers, they were the
(39:14):
number one defense in the league last year, like this
is this is a special number. So yes, Jesse Mentioner,
for sure, I don't have a problem with that at all.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Yeah, please, I mean we respect all opinions. We don't
have to go too far. It's okay if you're duplicating
somebody else's thoughts. The fact that if somebody puts Brian
Kelly in the chat, it's probably not gonna get red
because that's not an option, okay, it is you're trying
to move away from controversy, not running toward it. Right.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
In fact, that's why I was very hesitant on the
Michigan State Higher although that was some years ago, and
maybe he's distance associations so from that, but that's why
I was a little hesitant on that high.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
This is on the little lighter side.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
All you Michigan State slappies out there, all the green
and white and everybody, you got free reign and all
this Michigan fans, we got to eat it. All them jokes,
all the jokes that are coming down the pipeline about Sharon.
Guess what, take them and stride because me and all
of us, you know, we went ham and cheeseburger on
Tuck coming Tuck this and all that other stuff. We
let Michigan State have it. So be prepared for it's
(40:17):
coming back. Don't get mad, don't get the power, and
don't get the fighting. Don't not respond to your friends
that are green and white. Text like it's coming down
and it's deserved. So I'm here for whoever wants to
text me and crack jokes. I'm taking this dride. I'm
not going because it's deserving. He put himself in this situation.
And when you play silly games, as my grandmother used
(40:38):
to say, you win silly prizes.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Let's get to some super chats because I think it's
important to make sure we're getting brillant's perspective and on
things that they want to. I truly believe this, by
the way, So that's why I gave you the look.
You're like, Ain're gonna play that game. I'm telling you.
I think Marcus Freeman is high on their list.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
All right, all right, and I appreciate and I appreciate
that optimism. I just look at it as they hire
another brother for a while, Nivas Michigan State, like Mel
Tucker is wronmore.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
They ruined it for a while.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Man, Bobby Williams before mel Tucker.
Speaker 11 (41:08):
And then how long did that take?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Man?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
It was two thousand and two. Mel Tuck hired in
twenty twenty one, okay, twenty years.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
If they reach out to Marcus Freeman, does that help?
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (41:19):
Okay, I want him saying I.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Do believe that, oh who lay ruled his ires? First
time I've heard seen that?
Speaker 13 (41:24):
Why no, I just I just I just know it's
not gonna happen. It's like, yeah, I would of course.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
You don't think they're going to reach out to Marcus Freeman,
not with a real attempt. I will bet you, and
just I'll bet you say ebol right now from Smoothie.
Speaker 8 (41:39):
I would be glad to buy you that go.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Ahead. I would.
Speaker 13 (41:47):
Hey, you know what, the chat man, they've been active.
It's a lot of y'all in here mass that like,
but mass s matter like. But bras on the fire.
Jay Rod Sayers with the ten dollars super chat number
one crown right now he says, I appreciate your point
of view on this U of M news As a
diehard Wolverine fan. Today is rough, but I'll always root
for the amazing Blue. Looking forward to meeting you all
(42:07):
in the studio next week.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Hell to the victory, looking for it, looking forward to
speaking of people and sell you Michael, were your happy birthday.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
People will come to.
Speaker 6 (42:15):
The tail by Happy birthday, Man, make the best birthday,
sing it.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Happy birth.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yesterday.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
See, I told you right now you can get maybe
some behind.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
I know the story from yesterday. Listen to me. I
listened to you. I listened to you. I am not
one of these generation Z people were off doing looking
at somebody else while you're still talking to me. I've
got you.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
You know why I love yourself because you couldn't even
say gen Z. You have to say generations Shep and
Shep Man. You gotta love them. Man, No, but appreciate
Happy birthday, Yeah, go ahead, but you know it's it's
one of those tough days. But it's a tough day
in which you have to be honest. You know you
can't come here and give coach speak for lack of
a better word. Man, we see the situation. The very
samelast night, someone was put in an endangered situation.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
You roll that back and then look at what the
situation was for this coach.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
This is something that won't be tolerated. I look at
it if I were to be questioning situations for maticks.
Hey Maddix, where you think about going to school or Michigan, Well, yeah,
that's okay. How you have to think about what I
want to put my son in, Well, not institution, yes,
always the Michigan. But when I let my son go
play for or an answer would be numb. That's what
(43:28):
This is a tough day.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
You know this, and your dad probably struggled with the
two to a certain extent. When you are handing your
child over to a college coach, it is not just
for football or to get them Brailen Edwards to the NFL.
It is the most formative years of your life. And
I remember when my son was getting recruited and I
said this to the coach where he went and played.
(43:49):
I said, you're getting him at eighteen, I'm going to
get him back at twenty two. I expect the same
values that I'm teaching him for you to teach him
as well.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Okay, man, real talk, like but when not just as
a just as a single twenty twenty five thirty year old,
you'll hear, I'm going with this just as a single
twenty twenty five thirty year old, like you know much
energy is exhausted and entertaining different women, Like do you
know how much energy is exhausted?
Speaker 5 (44:25):
You cannot be this bet?
Speaker 8 (44:26):
Not?
Speaker 6 (44:27):
Well you've married what I'm saying, but like, that's why,
that's why I leave with it as a single, especially
like once I got older, like you know my thirty
and thirty seven, thirty.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Eight, I don't have time for that.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I say that to say this to be in a
whole relationship with a young woman that works for you.
Do you know how much energy that you have to
spend trying to do this and make sure it doesn't
get out, all while having a wife and three kids,
all while coaching? Yeah, the number one, two, three four
(44:57):
brand in college football? Now you know why you watch
games and they look unprepared. Now, I wonder why you
see moments what coordinators should be called out on things,
but they're not, and it continues over a.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Three week period.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
That's because you weren't worrying about Michigan getting better all
the time.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
You weren't worrying about player development.
Speaker 11 (45:18):
You weren't worrying about.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
What coaches should be coaching.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
And maybe I didn't see the right thing when I
hired this coach like a Dan Campbell did with certain coaches. Instead,
you know what you are here doing, and it's taken
away from who you are as a husband. It's taken
away from you as a coach, a mentor.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
It dreams you mentally, it's dreaming.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
I remember that from being single, like thirty five.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Dude, I don't. I don't think anybody would want to
work with their spouse anyway, okay, or you know what
I'm saying. My wife has had enough time living with
me for crying out. I lot them working with me.
But you understand where I'm going, right. Everybody needs space,
that's okay, all right. He needs space for me, and
we work together a few hours a day.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
That's all right.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
I have no problem with that. The people who are
offended by that are the people who are the problem.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
Except you hit the nail on the head as it
relates to situation in the very beginning. There's no way,
there's no way that your own war could not look
up the road to what was going on in twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 11 (46:21):
There's no way you look up that road.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
You see what happened to Miltucker, and you can legitimately say,
but I won't get caught.
Speaker 13 (46:28):
Right unless you saw it happen before.
Speaker 8 (46:33):
But that's a whole other story.
Speaker 13 (46:35):
That's the one thing is if you walk in a
certain air because you think you can do.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
That, yeah, because of what you see.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Before, you're right.
Speaker 6 (46:44):
Crowding arrogance, they come before the fall, somebody like kool aid.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
You are so right.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
We all not.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
I shouldn't say we all, but you know what I mean,
especially guys in general. That's not gonna happen to me.
How many coaches have we heard where they go? You
know what? This dude was a problem there, But I
can fix him. Jim Schwartz, Albert Hainsworth and Tennessee. I
can handle Titus Young. I know how I want to
do it. I can change this guy. He went' a
very good player there, but bring him to me. I'll
(47:12):
make him a really good player. We see it all
the time. It's a god complex for coaches also too.
Speaker 6 (47:20):
He hired this woman and gave her a fifty bump
in pay just to hit like, yeah, that's a corn ball.
Speaker 11 (47:26):
Yeah, go ahead, don't clip that.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Part, but pointed dog and I can fill it now.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I can feel it too. I think that's why it
was really important for him to talk on it. We can.
You can be disappointed if you're a Michigan fan wearing
a Michigan you know, tunic doesn't matter. This dude was
from the time, you know, he could change his own clothes,
wanted to play at Michigan, and then since that time,
(47:56):
the money, going back, shaking hands, hanging out with friends,
talking with friends. It's a different light number one than
if you're just a friend, okay, sorry, or if you're
just a fan. It cuts much much deeper. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
Sorry for us? Is how how we cheer for Sharona?
Is how like white boys you cheer about Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
Face this is this?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Why is it always white boy? I can't say black
boy here, No, I can't anyway that would.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
Who were good?
Speaker 6 (48:31):
Just having some fun, serious, serious topics today. So that
was just a little just a little little little gloss
on that little blade.
Speaker 13 (48:38):
I like, I like this question from our guy Randall
Small number two dollars. Super Teddy says, hey, Braylyn, have
you thought about coaching?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Yes, I have so.
Speaker 6 (48:50):
Last week when we had Jabon Uh Gonzales in here,
Jamainica Zaalad's son or Saint Marriage quarterback back to back
state titles, we had him in here.
Speaker 11 (48:59):
I was talking Jermaine after the show.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
Mark Campbell, who's phenomenal tight end University of Michigan back
in the day, will be on the staff next year
coaching tight ends at Orchra Lake Saint Mary's one hundred
percent he is.
Speaker 11 (49:11):
I'm like, yo, what's up with the wide receivers? He says,
what's up?
Speaker 3 (49:15):
So?
Speaker 6 (49:15):
I think I would prefer to get in in that level,
entry level, see what it is, because you have to
spend time like I do, be.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Clapping for what you clapp want to sign from two
to four? How can you do both?
Speaker 5 (49:27):
Football practice starts at like four.
Speaker 6 (49:29):
Point thirty Lake Saint Mary's.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
I thought he's clapping because he wants you at Michigan.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
No, said, I said, it's the process. St.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Mary's.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
I'm going to be wide series coach next year potentially.
See how that works. Get in and you get my
teeth into it and from then you know, maybe I
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Coach, or don't mind. I just you know, I just
don't want it to be at the expense of something
in en George, No.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
No, but the high school practice starts later.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
I can be selfish, but don't don't tell me I
can't be selfish.
Speaker 6 (50:00):
Unfortunately, Mary, it's not too far. I'll be able to
make it in the perfect time.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I wish you the best,
whatever you want to do, that's all that matters.
Speaker 6 (50:08):
But to answer that question a lot more, and I
think it's because it sometimes you got to get their
in life. Well, you can't because somebody thinks you're good
at it, or because you want it because they want you.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
To do it.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
You have to get there. I'm now at the age
where I want to give the information back. I want
to get the knowledge back. I watched TV. I'm excuse me,
I watch the games in a different way. I'm like, oh, man,
see what he should have done is don third That's
the same information that I could be sharing.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
I love that. I think it's really important. I say
this to my kids all the time. If you have
the time, go give back because you learn. That's how
kids are going to get better. There's a lot of
good dads out there who like to coach. Good for you, Okay,
Braylin Edwards coaching the wide receivers compared to Chuck Smith,
you know who runs the dry cleaning down the store
(50:52):
and down the street and still has time, is a
lot different. Right. My son excelled because he had college
lacrosse play coach him. These kids, well, not that archer
Lake Saint Mary's needs it for crying out loud, they
won another state championship, but think about how they would
benefit from that type of input from staff members like you,
(51:12):
like Gonzales, like Mark all this old.
Speaker 6 (51:14):
A lot of people have poured into me and other
athletes over the years. Man, I could name a ton
of coaches, a ton of people, a ton of you know,
just administration people that have poured into me. And I
remember we had this coach, coach, reginal Hitting Bobo. Shout
out to him. He was great When I played for
the West Side Cubs, kind of taught me the position
on Sundays, how to release, how to catch the clock situation.
But then also Troy Kyle was on that staff too,
(51:36):
and not that he did anything over the top. Great,
But he was a former college player who had played
in the NFL a little bit. When he came back
and coached on the little league team, he taught me
some of those routes, and it was moves. I was
ahead of the curve in high school, sure and in
college because I had some of these NFL moves that
he was able to teach me when I was twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old.
Speaker 5 (51:55):
So it does go a long way.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
Sure does good for you? Any other super chats before?
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Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yeah Yeah, Let's let's get back to some more super chats.
Anybody who's willing to passionately support the Braylen Edwards show,
like some have, they deserve to be heard. So kool aid,
do you want to man a bark?
Speaker 13 (58:42):
Fifty dollars super? This is from Joel justph fifty dollars.
Thank you guys for supporting today, he says, Bray coming
from a state fan. I guess it's Michigan State. Let's
keep it one hundred. I believe Michigan and Michigan State
set Charone and Mail up respectively. They were just duble
enough to fall for it.
Speaker 6 (59:02):
Sure, but at the end of the day, like what
you do with your member is up to you. Yeah,
what you do, what your remember and understanding the situation
that you're in, Like you you're already let's let's you
know what, let's take color out of the situation for
this kind of name.
Speaker 5 (59:18):
We're done with color, all right, We're done with that
part of it.
Speaker 6 (59:21):
You're in a situation where Michigan is asking you to
prove yourself, like ask you to prove yourself. That's why
the money is what it was. That's why the situation
is what it is. That means you got to walk
a fine tooth call and you got to get better
and better and better. It means you got to be
doing everything to become the best version of yourself so
that when that conversation comes time, you know what, I
think you've outplayed this contract.
Speaker 11 (59:40):
I think there's more for you on the other end.
Speaker 6 (59:43):
So, yeah, did they set them up, not with her,
but more so in the situation just you know, just
throwing him the head coaching job, knowing he maybe have
been in over his heare, But so what he took it,
So like for whatever we say, he took the job,
he took the opportunity, and then he also took the honey,
which was not sweeter on the other side.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Yeah, that confuses me. I don't know how mel Tucker
got set up. Michigan State gave him more money than
they were paying Mark D'Antonio, and he was the twelve
highest paid coach in America at the time. He coached
there for what four seasons. If you're gonna set somebody up,
you're gonna set them up, and you're gonna let them
stay there as as long as they did from twenty twenty,
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twenty twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Will yees three years.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
I'm sorry, but I.
Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
Will say to that, yes, if you're waiting to find
out how to get out of it, get yourself out
of a pickle. And in their pickle, they're trying to
get out of the money pay for mel Tucker, which
means they knew about what was going on. So let's
just wait until we have all our ducks aligned in
a row to be able to pull the trigger the
same thing with the wrong more Whereas that's what the
question really is.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Oh, I thought I thought he meant set him up
like Here's like you brought him in knowing he was
gonna fail. Who in their right mind, as an athletic
director hires a guy and says, I know this guy's
gonna fail, but I'm gonnaive him the job. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Michigan State.
Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
I have the director's last years to me that it makes.
Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Absolutely no sense. I don't think Michigan State said. So,
let me get this straight. He gets the job. Both
these guys get the job. They screw around, they screw up,
and it's back on the school. How about some self
depreification here, Okay, how about those guys screwed up. I
don't care what color they are. I don't care what
they were brought in to do, and I don't care
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what school they were coaching. They were given an opportunity.
They blew it. I would say that about whomever is
coaching male, female, white, black. It doesn't matter to me.
Go ahead, you know what.
Speaker 13 (01:01:38):
Shout out to Michael Werry on his birthday, he had
made twenty dollars.
Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
Super chep man.
Speaker 13 (01:01:45):
You know the people are really supporting it, says again, Bray,
Have you seriously though thought about coaching.
Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
They're doubling down.
Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Bro, Why do you keep reading these they sent We
gotta read It's different ones, not panicking. I'm getting disturbed.
That's a completely which is a good heavy metal disturbed.
Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
I don't know man like coaching, and I might be bad.
Look right about now, man, you know what I'm saying.
I've been on a straight and narrow I don't even.
Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
But we'll see.
Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
Like one of them said, I'm seriously, I'm dead serious
from the conversation I had with Jermain last excuse me,
Coach Gonzales last week, and I'm gonna get on that
staff and I'm gonna see and see where it could
take me. But starting with high school wide receivers. Yeah,
because that's what I love is you think you'll like it.
I think I love it, to be honest, because I'm
I'm the guy that always hates in air quotation and
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I hates hate such a strong word. I'm always annoyed
that I have to go to football camps. Meanwhile, once
I get to people's football camps, I'm the coach is
out there sweating, running routes, engaged in conversations, yelling at
the kids like they're my sons, like they're my players.
So like, in going to camps and starting to notice
that energy and then remember everybody from Calvin to Randy
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Moss to Tory h O said, man, you are here
sweating like that.
Speaker 11 (01:03:03):
Let me know that I actually enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
That let me know that for me, it wasn't just
coming out here to showface at somebody's camp and then
go do all the things that come with the camp weekend.
As I know, you know, no, I was out there
really diving into it and trying to help them and
listening to the questions. So that starts sparking and piquing
my interests. And now here we are, so yeah, we'd.
Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Love to come film that would that be awesome, that'd
be awesome.
Speaker 13 (01:03:27):
I don't even know if he's gonna get to say so,
we's gonna be out the supporting I guy, I'm gonna
be I'm gonna be Connor Stallions up there.
Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
He's not even a glasses You're not even gonna know
him there.
Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
There was There was.
Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
Not every one time somebody said fire GM when that
was going on.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Okay, any any others before we move on to Lions.
Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 13 (01:03:49):
Definitely a lot. And if we have we could save
some of these four. Uh, let's go back, let's let's
get to them.
Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
There's a here today.
Speaker 11 (01:03:56):
I'm saying that man shout out to the Lions man.
Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Julian and I have to shock the world Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Oh that sounds like an early production.
Speaker 11 (01:04:03):
That's called just joking.
Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
We can get in that conversation too.
Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
He didn't even use it as a tease. He was like, no,
I'm not even saying you.
Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
Know what, Luckily, I don't have to pick who I
want to win the game or who I believe to
win the game until tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
So the day is uh, we just got to pick
one game tonight.
Speaker 13 (01:04:19):
Hey, hey, you know Julius Hampton four nine super chat
from Julian Hampton didn't even say anything, just sent into support.
Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
So shout out to Julian. Thanks for DN.
Speaker 13 (01:04:29):
See nine super chanses. Do you guys think that Bryce
Underwood is going to transfer out? Also, that's that question
coming and more came.
Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Oops.
Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
That is a big question, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
That was a question that you and I talked about
before all this even happened after that High State game
when you look at the fact that he threw for
sixty three yards in that game, and you look at
the fact that it doesn't seem as though the player
development is where it once was in the University of Michigan,
and you're talking about a guy that you know, LSU
still want some player.
Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
He's still one.
Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
With a guy who has proven he can develop quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
So yeah, I think that's a real conversation. And to
be honest, here's a better question. Why ship Brice under
was day.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Does it depend on who comes in next.
Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Class?
Speaker 11 (01:05:19):
Didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
The overly class was ranked, depending on the website, eleventh
in the country. Here's how I would sell it to
him if I were coming in as a head coach,
which would be pretty funny and you would be my
but I would say, we had six freshman a red
shirt freshman on the offense. We've got a very highly
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touted class coming in. We're going to be really good
next year. We had three red shirt offensive linemen. They're
only going to be better. You're going to be better
because we're going to hire people to help make you better.
We've got an outstanding running back in Jordan Marshall who's
going to help us. Marsh was a freshman. The connection
you had with him, We're bringing in good wide receivers.
(01:06:03):
Stay with us, That's what I would be. I would be,
you know, strongly encouraging him to stay with us. Now,
you got to get the right people, okay, And he
wants to see.
Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
That, and my rebutter would be like, do you see
what my season was this past year?
Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
As it used to passing.
Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
Look, I love I love the school, I love the institution.
But I came here to get paid, and I came
here to be the best quarterback that I can be.
I came here to throw for four thousand yards. I
came here to throw for forty touchdowns. And right now
I'm not believing that this is a place where I
can write where I can do that, because you guys
are so caught up in the run game and the
history of what the offensive line and the history of
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what the run game is. This is a new Daan
age like this is a new day and age. Give me, like,
what are the guarantees because right now I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Bryce, I appreciate that very much. Knowing that we've lost
our head coach, We're gonna lose our offensive coordinator. By
our design thank you are not going to have the
same OC next year. We have made it a point
to go get bigger wide receivers, wide receivers similar to
those that we've had in greatness at that position in
the past. We want you to succeed. It helps us
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when you go to the next level and you will
be an NFL quarterback that we are talking that we
are going to make sure you have every resource, not
just financially and weightlifting and the amenities, but the players
on the field to make you successful.
Speaker 11 (01:07:21):
I want to extra million each year.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Let me make a call to the donor.
Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
You know what, this was a productive conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Okay, good that that can.
Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
You whoever's coming next needs to come with that energy.
Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
Good because that was a little curveball I threw you
and you answered that pretty You know.
Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
What, will you do me a favorite? Can you pick
up the tab real quick? Since you make more money
than I do.
Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
You know what, coach I got you? That that right
there is if it goes something like that. Bryce was
day because that was a that was kind of I hope.
Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
So I saw him before the game against Villanova out
of the practice facility. Who's there late working hard with
all of his teammates. He is a very engaging player.
I don't care. I do care how nice you are
and how you represent your school and your name. It's
really important. He's a he's a good kid, okay, and
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a lot of kids that with that type of accolades
wouldn't have to be like that.
Speaker 11 (01:08:16):
He's like about him. He reminds me of KD.
Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
Remember the crack jokes about KD we were talking about,
but Katie only cares about ball. When you saw Bryce
said that, but I mean obviously in his corvette pulled up.
Speaker 11 (01:08:25):
Next to you.
Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
But when you see Bryce, he's amongst the folks. He's
chilling with football clothes, on football things and a year
A lot of stories about him at shim Beckler. I've
heard it from multiple people, and not just people at
shim Becky, so.
Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
He doesn't always have to talk to people. But it
took the time out. I went up to and said, hey,
by the way, I called your three state championships. He's like,
no way, that's dope. Coolid little He did not. He
was not in a corvette, which is surprising to me.
He was just a regular road truck. He was real
humble to man, we got to and that's what I
like about him.
Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (01:08:53):
At the bus, Jeron Bettis he had his foundation here
when the draft was here, a big event, and he
show up and it was really really humble. Everything was
about his faith, his family and being excited about the
opportunity to have parents.
Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
Did a good job with him from what I can tell.
The bus reminds me of you a little bit. You're
always smiling, very happy. Go ahead too.
Speaker 13 (01:09:14):
And you know what, Julian actually did send in something
and sent in another one D nine super chat to
make sure we could see it. What do you guys
think of a Dion sanders Hire? Not sure why people
are laughing in the chat with that type of hire.
He is a leader of men and he would bring
a lot of recruits and transfers.
Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
Dion warred Michigan.
Speaker 11 (01:09:33):
Man, get the hell out of here now. Like Dion
for what it was, it was great.
Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
He went to an institution and nobody cared about which
is Colorado, Like anybody could have gone there and they
didn't care.
Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
He went there.
Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
He took a staff that he had from Jackson State
to feature Heisman Trophy, went a quarterback and a good
enough quarterback to throw for three hundred and fifty six
yards last week against the Tennessee Titans. That what he
had and what he bought like that thing had an
expiration date, and I believe that expiration date was when
he got draft.
Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
The last year twenty seven and six of Jackson State
really good. The Colorado numbers not quite so good. I
don't know what people use for a coaches or a
player's resume that is good enough for them. We talked
about Anthony Davis yesterday. We talked about Lori Marketing yesterday. Right,
what is it you look at? Does the winning have
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to be there? At what level? Like Kurt Signetti, that's
the name everybody talks about at Indiana. Look at where
he's been, James Madison, Elon before that, look at all UPI,
all the places he's been, He's won everywhere, every single stop.
Is that important to you. I'm not saying that would
be most important to me. I'm just saying he was
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really good at Jackson State. Then suddenly he's a Colorado.
Granted I didn't expect them win national championship, but I
think it's okay to expect better than sixteen to twenty
one in his career. So I would say probably not
to that. I think there are better options out there,
and I would gravitate toward the better options.
Speaker 13 (01:11:00):
Looking at Blakelee in the chat the number three Crown,
one nine super, he says, throw twenty million to Cicnaty.
Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
Who cares make him? Say no? That guy has been brilliant.
Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
Absolutely, twenty million is obviously a little hyperbolic.
Speaker 8 (01:11:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:11:14):
The only thing with Signaty is yes, he's one everywhere
he's been, but like trying to get that bring it
to an institution, like another major institution and start over.
Like he's not bringing his same crew that he bought
to Indiana. Now they're turning up. And then he went
in that he went into that conference. He went into
that conference and said, hey, I am about to be
the head coach of Indiana and the Big Ten. There's
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an opportunity in the window. He went to every team
in that conference and got the best players and got
them said hell, yeah, I want to be here. I
want to play in a Big ten, and all of
them went with him. Like he won't be able to
do that this time around, and it'll be a little
more even ground for him, and it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
The good news for him is he plays a very
favorable schedule over the next number of years. I don't
know how many years it goes, but over a number
of years to try and get it done. Twenty million,
I'm sure it's just tongue in cheek, just so people
are aware, the highest paid coach in college football is
Kirby Smart At Georgia. He makes thirteen point two, So
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twenty million is a little hyperbolic, I think, which is
one of my favorite words. I think it's a little
out of control. But I think what they're saying is,
you know, that's what you want. Okay, Braylan, how much
different do you think it is being a head coach
at Indiana and being a head coach at Michigan or
Ohio State or even Oregon or maybe Penn State in
the conference.
Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
That's a lot more different. It's just it's a lot
more that comes with Michigan. That's bigger than sports, is
bigger than football, but Michigan football, like whether it's good
or bad or whatever, it's very important always.
Speaker 11 (01:12:49):
So I think it's I think it's other.
Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Lot's other.
Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
They could build a statue for him in Bloomington right now. Okay,
alrighty if he were doing this at Michigan, he would
be applauded, but would be another one of those guys.
Speaker 6 (01:13:02):
Yeah, Okaycandal, that's true.
Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
Any other super chats that we want to get to
before we dive into lines in rams.
Speaker 13 (01:13:10):
Yeah, definitely, definitely Michael where he sends in super chat
just saying thank you, guys for the birthday love that
was a two dollars one to deserve it.
Speaker 8 (01:13:18):
He also asked any idea who in the interim coach
would be.
Speaker 13 (01:13:20):
I know, bif Pogy is the Pogy is the assistant
coach right now, if I believe, or the acting interim
coach for the game against Texas.
Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
So what do you what do you think he means
by culture? This has always fascinated me. What is what
is culture?
Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
If?
Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
If they're talking about culture and Braylan just laid out
the culture from Harbaugh and Sharon Moore, you don't what
what kind of culture is that? You don't want that culture?
Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Right? So?
Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
What exactly are we talking about here? It's it's kind
of like when people say I don't like this coach
because wherever he wins, he wins with other people's guys.
What are you nuts? I mean, it's hard to in
with other guys. Sometimes it's more difficult. You still, you
think any coach comes in for another coach, for another
coach with the same group of guys and says, I
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tell you what, I'll learn your playbook. We'll just do
everything the same because I'm going to make that big
of a difference. They're they're implementing their own stuff. You
still have to follow them. They still have to make
the right right to make the right game day decisions.
They have to do all those things. So I'm wondering
what culture How do we define culture? Do you think.
Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
Cultures and changes every day in terms of where in
the description? But what what people with multiple places they've
gone and one with other people's team. I think that
happens like once you'll go somewhere and win like that
year two years, All right, what's on you?
Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
What do you have?
Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
But I have to sell you if I'm if I'm
your coach and you came in with another coach and
I want Braylan Edwards to stay, I have to sell
you on myself. I have to sell you on the
fact that I'm going to be beneficial for you to
get to work you want to go, and then you're
going to recognize it on game day, You're going to
recognize it during practice. You're going to figure out whether
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or not this guy's worth fighting for.
Speaker 6 (01:15:10):
Coaches already exist, they're already in place, but coaches evolved,
and I think that's what happens. Like coaches evolved now
as a player, and I'm looking at you, do I
feel like you're somebody that can evolve this culture. I
feel like you're somebody that can add to what the
culture already is. Like Jim Harbaugh in the last four
years of what it was, added to what the culture was.
And the culture at Michigan not necessarily was open to
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listening to the players, talking to the players, having an
open door policy, having a little bit more fun, a
little bit more laid back. A lot of the things
that they did was a lot different. Jim Harbaugh in
twenty one to twenty four added twenty one to twenty
three added to what the culture was at Michigan. So
now on top of tradition and winning and all this
other stuff, now as all this is cool, this is
actually trending, this is what's going on, This is oh okay,
(01:15:52):
this is so you got to add to a culture
is ever evolving? Like, do I believe you're a guy
that can evolve a culture?
Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Build it?
Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
Building can make it make it even stronger.
Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Ye sixteen after the hour, anymore, kol aid before you.
Speaker 8 (01:16:06):
Got three more? I can zip through one of them
from Michael.
Speaker 13 (01:16:10):
It's just a one dollar super chat they just sent
it in for support, so shout out QB Michael, I
see you in the chat. And then we also have
a couple more here Randall Small's two dollars super chat.
I just want to throw some laws to Tony and
Nice from Fairris State. He says, great coaches and Michael
go blue one Undy nine.
Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
He just wants your overall thoughts on the future of
Michigan football.
Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
Michigan football will always be all right, man. They got money,
and they got the donors. You got the power, like
Michigan will always be Michigan. That's one thing you never
have to worry about. It's just how long is it
going to take it to get back to that like that?
How long is it gonna take it? You know, because
nobody has time to be waiting twenty years like we
did from twenty twenty, two thousand and four to twenty
twenty one. So how fast is it gonna take? But
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Michigan's gonna be all right, man. They got the biggest
donort system in the public school instance that everybody knows.
You can je me throw a rocket hit a Michigan
alum anywhere in the world. Michigan will be fine. We
just got to get on the same damn page. That's
what has to happen. Michigan as alums, Michigan as the
football program, the regions ad. Everybody's gotta get on the
(01:17:15):
same damn page. That is what's gonna help Michigan through this.
Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
Uh it's a storm, yeah, but they need leadership to
align everybody hundred percent. And I've said this at nauseum,
and I know people will probably roll the rise if
if I'm going through an interview process with certain coaches,
I want some of my doesn't have to be Brillian Edwards,
it don't have to be stand Edwards, but I want
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some of my past grades in the room to ask
a question or two. I'm not going to tell you you're
making the decision. This is my decision. I'm the athletic director.
But I'm going to extend that invite to some important
alumni who know who I think and I respect, will say,
you know what I would play for this guy?
Speaker 11 (01:17:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
I think that's really important, And I don't know why
more don't do it. Maybe I'm way off base, maybe
I'm the dumbass in this whole thing, but I really
think I think it's important because I don't know what
it's like to play for him. He does, this guy does,
this guy does. Bring him in, Brian Greasy, bring him in.
He's been a coach. He knows what players respond to.
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Braylan knows what players respond to. That's what I would do.
As far as Tony, and he's right, Tony Denise was
an unbelievable coach. He was an unbelievable coach at Jennison,
unbelievable coach at Pioneer Muskegan of course, where he went
like one hundred and sixty five or whatever it was,
forty one Grand Rapids Junior College, and now at Fairris State.
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He wins it a place I don't know if you've
ever been to Big Rapids. With all due respect, not
a lot to do there. He's one hundred and fifty
and twenty one. He wins championships there. He's the best
Division two program in the country, bar nunt. He's sixty three.
I don't think there's suggesting he would be the Michigan coach.
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Why a mid major program hasn't gone and gotten him
is beyond me. I mean, how Central, Western or Eastern
have gone through a lot of coaches and not tapped
on his door and said, could you please come here?
Is stupid? He's a brilliant offensive mind it, really he
really is. He's a he's a really good football coach.
(01:19:27):
So thank you for that. That's that's good advice for
anybody who may not know who Tony Denice was, who
has wanted every stop. Montrose was the other place Montrose
and Muskegan primarily in high school. All right, when we
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So the Lions and the Rams play on Sunday. This
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most about battling the Rams in LA I know it's
not the home field because they don't draw that many.
There might be as many Lions fans there is as
Rams crowd in the crowd just a row.
Speaker 11 (01:24:31):
I mean, it's the row games playing on the road.
Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
It doesn't necessarily matter that you're playing against I mean
in a place that doesn't have home field advantage. I
think the flip side is the conversation we need to
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keep talking about Detroit on what's the level and what
do you worry about? What's the Rams worry about? What
do they worry about because I got an angling in
the space that I like the Lions versus the Rams
this week.
Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
Wow, here's what I would guess. And I probably wasn't
convinced of this until you brought up on Monday that
the Rams alon too many points by the Cardinals, too
many yards by the Cardinals. Now you and I have
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get twenty to twenty. I care about it whether you
can score on me. And I think their defense is legit.
(01:25:13):
It has been steady most of the year, and it's
the front four. I didn't pay attention enough until the
week of the Minnesota game when you said the Minnesota
front four concerns me, and he said, and then you
ticked off all the different teams that they've got coming up,
and the front fours of those teams, the Rams were
one of those. So do I think Detroit can score
(01:25:35):
with the Rams? You know, in a perfect scenario, probably,
But are they going to be able to run the
football against that front four? I'm worried about.
Speaker 11 (01:25:45):
That, all right. And I understand that though what offense is?
What offense?
Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
Do you like better to Cards and the Lions currently Lions.
What offense do you like better, Panthers or the Lions.
Lions the forty nine ers or the Lions currently appreciate it.
I agree with you on all three of those. Those
teams scored twenty six, thirty one, and seventeen. And when
they start scoring points over the last month over the Rams,
it's because Quinton Lake has been out. It's because mcquarry
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Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
That's the one they went and got.
Speaker 6 (01:26:14):
That's the one they went and got into trade as
soon as they got And what was the conversation that
you and I had, That was a great move by
the Rams. They went kind of short up the one
place where they were kind of weak, which is the secondary.
Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
He's on Ir Quenton Lake's on Ir.
Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
Harvenstein, although that's on defense, and then Byron Young is
banged up, their starting linebacker. That's when the points started happening.
That's when you started to see chinks in the armor.
That's when you see Michael Wilson going four eleven catches.
That's when you see Chuba Hubbard and Dondille switching up
with Terry mccauy.
Speaker 11 (01:26:42):
That's when you see those chinks in the armor.
Speaker 6 (01:26:45):
And when I saw from the Lions, I've seen four
weeks now from Jamo, I've seen what he can be.
Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
I've seen it.
Speaker 11 (01:26:51):
He wants to make players.
Speaker 6 (01:26:52):
I saw a leader last week and I'm already saying
Brown'll show you why he's that guy, why he is
one of those guys that they call him. And then
Jamier has been doing jamiro game. And oh, by the way,
here's David Montgomery been looking for this guy. I think
the switch up and the pace, I think they can
do some damage on the offensive side of the ball
and make this The Rams like to pass a lot,
(01:27:12):
but it's easy to pass when you're ahead to schedule.
It's easy to pass when you're heading the game. We
saw that Panthers game when it came to a point
where the Panthers took the league. Now we're playing from behind.
Now we're throwing picks. Now I recognize some of who
this master staff.
Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Used to be.
Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
That's where the win is going to happen.
Speaker 6 (01:27:28):
You have to take a bach to that secondary, and
you take it bato that secondary, you keep the Rams
having to press against you.
Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Yeah, I think the Rams have to pass whether they're
ahead or behind, only because that's who they are, number one,
and you want to get the ball in the hands
of Pukadakua and.
Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
Two running backs that went over one hundred yards es
since he last week. Yeah, and a lot of really
come on strong talk about Blake corn.
Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Sure, and a lot of that is because they've got
three tight ends. They'll they'll run thirteen personnel and it's stunning.
They're one of those few teams you mentioned Buffalo last week.
Buffalo does this same thing that's going to be a
tough thing for Detroit to stop.
Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
I think that's the and that's where I like the
end on the opposite side of that man is they
can run the ball. They do run the ball for
when all that pass and Sean m Bay will keep
the ball on the ground. When Kyron Williams doesn't want
to run the ball between the tackles, he will bring
Blake Kornman to take over and leave Kyron Williams butt
on the bench. And the Lions have struggled when you're
(01:28:25):
able to get yards on first down so that they
can run, because now you can't put El Kwadem mohammedd
and now you can't put one of their pass rushers
in and try to get to the quarterback because none
of them play well in the run game. That's where
you same thing with Like, it's the same conversation about
the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 11 (01:28:41):
You gotta keep them in third long, excuse me, second
and long.
Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Yes, that's what I liked about the Dallas game. You
and I think we're texting back and forth. The fact
that Detroit would stayed ahead of the chains. They get
behind the change. It's really hard for him. And obviously
Jared Versu and those guys will pin their ears back
and Byron Young and get after you a little bit.
Young actually leads him in sacks. So when you get
in that situation, yeah, you want to make sure that
(01:29:05):
you're ahead of the chains. I don't think it matters
as much to the Rams because of Sean mcvay's offensive genius.
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (01:29:17):
And also too, the thing that helped you against Dallas
was the fact that you split up and want some
zone stuff.
Speaker 11 (01:29:22):
You can't go zone against Stafford McVeigh man. You just
can't because because of how fast he can read and
process stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
Also, this is year seventeen for him or fourteen whenever
he got drifting in two thousand and seven, No.
Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
Nine, So this is year.
Speaker 11 (01:29:34):
Sixteen for him. Like he's he's not tricking him.
Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Yeah, everything.
Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
You can't trick Philip Rivers right now. When you get
to a certain point, you can't trick these quarterbacks. And
that's why a lot of times with older quarterbacks start
to have success. Like, there's not tricking him. So in
the zone, he'll pick it apart. You gotta come after him,
but you gotta find ways to come after him his
safety blitzes. But if you run safety blitzes, you're leaving somebody.
Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
You better get home, exactly. And that's what they did
a really good job against Dallas. Campbell got home, ANZELONEI
got home. They're getting pressure in the face. The good news,
I suppose if you're a Lions fan it would be
that you can keep Matthew Stafford on his spot. He's
not one of those guys. I mean, he can do
it fine, but he's not one of those guys who
(01:30:19):
is going to get outside the pocket or wiggle inside
the pocket like Patrick Mahomes will.
Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
He's like Tom Tom.
Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
Tom will stay in that space and move enough in
that little six yard space.
Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
Jared Goff will do the same thing. True, not as effective,
but he still can. But he does slip and slide. Yeah,
if this team does this team have to win for
them to impress you. Is this the game that the
Lions go up against the Rams and if they do win,
everybody their blood pressure goes down? Or could they lose
(01:30:52):
the game? Play very very well and you still feel like, Okay,
I could see them running the table the rest of
the way out.
Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
The Lions don't have to win this game. But if
they do win this game, now that Super Bowl conversation
starts to open back up. Oh okay, Like they don't have.
Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
To win this game.
Speaker 11 (01:31:05):
They can play really good.
Speaker 5 (01:31:06):
They can look good, they can look.
Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
The part, and then I believe they'll win the last
three games and then they can get into the dance
and they.
Speaker 5 (01:31:11):
Can figure it out.
Speaker 11 (01:31:12):
They'll take that last spot.
Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
They'll be hot as firecracker, and they can roll in
the next space they play, especially maybe the first round
they beat the Rams.
Speaker 11 (01:31:21):
They go out there and beat the Rams, We're.
Speaker 6 (01:31:23):
Having a different conversation because now they control their destiny,
maybe even more than just making the playoffs. They beat
the Rams. It's a whole nother conversation. I think the
Super Bowl conversation gets opened back up because we've said,
at least I've said all year. Well, I've said all
year the Rams are the best team. I've said all
year the Los Andles Rams are the best team in
the NFL. I started the beginning of the season. I
(01:31:44):
carried it all season, and I stay that. Of course,
the Detroit Lions coming off the win against Dallas, their
backs against the wall, playoffs kind of looming on the horizon.
Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
You win Dallas and then you come back, go on
the road, and you beat the Rams in their stadium.
Speaker 6 (01:31:57):
When that head coach is man he can't already beat you,
When that quarterback is mad that he hasn't been able
to successfully beat you. All that's on the table, and
you go out there and beat him says a lot
about you. That's a different conversation, Like that's Super Bowl
open conversation, because who in the NFC is better than them?
Speaker 12 (01:32:14):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (01:32:14):
And the Eagles are falling apart, and I don't trust
Sam Donald, and I don't trust Rock Perty or mac Jones.
I don't trust what that offense looks like consistently. It's
a hodgepodge of individuals making players. I don't trust that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Can I mention the team that you mentioned before, well, that.
Speaker 11 (01:32:30):
The way they got to deal with them.
Speaker 6 (01:32:31):
But you'll cross that line in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 11 (01:32:34):
That'd be the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
We'll cross that bridge.
Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
But to your point, make sure we didn't forget them.
Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
No, we did not.
Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
You beat the Rams, though, now that conversations open back up,
the conversation is truly open back up, because I don't
think you could be the team three times in the
same season.
Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
It's be pretty tough. It'd be really tough. I've seen
it happen, but not in football that I can RecA.
Speaker 11 (01:32:57):
Dance you thought you were going to get or that
did surprise you a little.
Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
Bit, prize me a little bit. Yeah, I mean, I look,
it's a cliche, but there's a reason they're cliches, because
oftentimes cliches are true. Yeah, okay, so I mean if
you look at it, we can talk about that at
a different time. The stiff test that is the Los
Angeles Rams, the fact that this team has got to
find a way to develop faster pressure because of how
(01:33:23):
fast nine for the Rams is able to break down
defenses and how quickly he gets rid of the ball.
And as we know prior to the game against Dallas,
no defense allowed opposing quarterbacks more time to throw than
the Detroit Lions at two point nine to nine.
Speaker 6 (01:33:40):
Can I have an old school this an old school
adage that's not illegal. I'm not telling you to go
out there, and this isn't the Greg Williams bounty gate
anything like that. When you tackle Matt Stafford, make sure
it's a longer tackle. When you get him on the ground,
make sure there's a little within the rules of engagement.
(01:34:02):
Make sure there's a little extra lay on it, right.
Because that back, as good as he's playing, I saw
that back in that Carolina game. I saw him WinCE
at times. I saw throws not go exactly where they
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They got a lot of special sauce.
Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Going on out there, and they cannot win without it.
Speaker 5 (01:34:28):
They cannot so do what they used to say.
Speaker 6 (01:34:30):
They didn't say, go do anything illegal or cheap shot
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That's what you gotta do.
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is a bright look.
Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
Bring some joy at yeah, you look at sharp.
Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
As always give us the bright look on what it
might mean for Anthony Davis. If indeed there's reports that
the lot that the Pistons have not reached out to
Dallas and had that conversation. There are other reports that
are the three teams that have showed sincere interest, the
Pistons are one of them. He's had something issues that. Yeah,
surprised a little.
Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Bit about that.
Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
Tell us, tell us how you come come back from
a knee injury? A what were the other ones? Coo,
ladies and.
Speaker 8 (01:43:39):
Yeah, yeah, the left knee, the left calf, and the left.
Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Growing growing injury.
Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
So explain why is he consistent on the left side,
because I know that that's the start for you.
Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
Know, that's the first thing you thought.
Speaker 7 (01:43:52):
I love, I know you you are not an ex
football player.
Speaker 10 (01:43:55):
I know.
Speaker 5 (01:43:57):
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Now you gotta tell
something these people so I can start working. Though I've
helped a part of your education, I appreciate. I got
my notes.
Speaker 7 (01:44:06):
We gotta get a certificate for you from Pierce PhD.
Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
So what would be on one side?
Speaker 7 (01:44:12):
Well, kind of what we talk about, right, I talked
about once there's an injury and then you want to
work through it. You have a weakness and then you
change your mechanics. That's why I encourage everybody when you
have an injury, you need to go get that repaired
because your body is going to compensate. He's still gonna
get down the road, but he's not gonna wear that
one side out a little bit more, right, So I
always use the analogy of the car. There's four tires
(01:44:35):
in a car. When one's out of alignment, it's still
gonna get there. It's gonna wear out. Let's go wear out,
you know, inappropriately, but to the point that it's left
me left growing left calf. You're putting more strain on it.
When he wants to start getting getting through.
Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
What are we looking at?
Speaker 7 (01:44:56):
Left?
Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
Look at.
Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
He's not on the secret sauce or he's had too
much secret sauce.
Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
I think I won the bed within the first minute
and a half. We heard secret sauce.
Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
It has been some of that blood.
Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Blood.
Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
So it's overcompetition. So what you're saying is it's overcompensation.
Speaker 7 (01:45:14):
It's compensating to get through with how his training staff
should have had him back to proper mechanics. When you
start altering the mechanics and you play at an elite
level like that, where you get pound through it, something
else is going to give out. Right, So that's what's happening.
And the growing the groin is a tougher injury, right.
Is it all just unfortunate on the left side? Was
(01:45:36):
he not balanced right on the left side. There's a
lot of things we can pick on, but the easiest
one is to take a look at once you start
an injury, don't get it fully repaired. You're compensating. And
for people out there, people that are working the line,
you know when you have a right arm and it's like,
you know, your shoulders hurt, and all of a sudden
you're putting more strength, more issue on your elbow and
on your wrists, and all of a sudden your wrist
and elbow are hurting. You know, it all makes sense.
(01:45:59):
It's wearing at the end of the day. Yeah, that
was a long list.
Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
It's interesting, but Koli puts that together. Kool is not
a fan of Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
He put puts that in the litany of injuries together,
but only for Anthony Davis. He doesn't.
Speaker 7 (01:46:19):
A person Anthony Davis. I've met him a couple of times.
He's he's a great individual. I mean, he's very generously good.
Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
And it doesn't matter to kool aid.
Speaker 7 (01:46:27):
It does not personalities out the door. He's good for
you know, we're looking at we're a young team. What
do you be beneficial? I think, so I'm not voting
against him.
Speaker 8 (01:46:42):
The cat growing everything.
Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
So there there you go, right, the blue.
Speaker 7 (01:46:47):
Blue calf, the big the big gas trocks.
Speaker 10 (01:46:49):
Here.
Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
Well, we talked about achilles tendon a lot. This is
the achilles tender from here now, so you see that
it is a long tendon. Yeah, right, surprising. I didn't
realize that.
Speaker 4 (01:46:59):
Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 7 (01:47:00):
And then when I talk about when I look at athletes,
we're looking at the genetics of people. You'll see a
lot of long distance runners. They have longer calves, a
lot of players. When you see powerful people like if
you put Montgomery up here or give they're gonna have
a much shorter They're gonna have much more powerful calf muscles,
the gastract muscles, and you'll see less technically, you should
(01:47:21):
see less tended and that's just the way they're built.
When I say genetically, we're gonna we should start looking
at the sports science of it, This is some of
the stuff you start looking at and you start thinking,
why are people elide at certain levels? There's a genetic
I mean, look at this guy here, he's genetically made
to be more powerful as opposed to some other guys
that didn't make it this far. These are the big
(01:47:45):
hamstring muscles. Obviously of the other blue parts your inner
part which can run into your groin or your ad doctor.
So your ad doctor, so we add in, so it
means you're going. It's the muscle that pulls the leg
inward towards you and ended there. So I didn't know
we were going to have that today. Thanks one other
surprises today.
Speaker 11 (01:48:07):
Was surprised yesterday and depending on who you knew.
Speaker 7 (01:48:11):
I just got back into town. It wasn't big news
where I was, but I got very updated. And you know,
we talked about do we really can I can I
go here?
Speaker 5 (01:48:21):
Why not? I want?
Speaker 7 (01:48:24):
I want to talk about mental toughness, right. We talked
about Saint Brown, the mental toughness of him fighting through
things like that. You have an example here of mental breakdown. Right,
this is a man that we looked at that runs
one of the biggest programs in the country. Well, endorsed.
I mean, you've lived in the U of M world
(01:48:44):
and we talk about mental mental breakdown, mental fatigue, mental anxiety. Right,
You're looking at this man who was on a pedestal,
you know, and within fractions of minutes he cracked. And
that's the stability of the brain that we can't predict.
(01:49:04):
The who would have predicted this guy is going to
break down, you know, unfortunately put it himself in a
compromised position that he's now being supervised for a safety
to himself and to others around them.
Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
Yeah, because look, I mean, this is what coaches say
to players all the time, you know, after a loss.
It's how you respond to adversity. It's how you respond
to disappointments. That's what they always say. All coaches say that.
I'm sure parents say that to their kids too. He
has preached that, I'm sure to Michigan players for a
long time and then look how he handled it.
Speaker 6 (01:49:33):
I agree with doctor, and I agree with you on
that the mental side of it, I definitely agree. But
also this is why the hiring process is so important.
When you're sitting down and you're talking about hiring an
individual that is going to represent a franchise or represent an.
Speaker 11 (01:49:48):
Institution, and especially a high institution like Michigan.
Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
That's why twenty fifth, twenty sixth, twenty seventh hour higher, well,
you know that there probably wasn't a full on, a
full on you like it may have been if you're
interviewing somebody new, because that's when you get to it,
those eight hour meetings or nine hour meetings.
Speaker 5 (01:50:06):
I remember when Harbaum interview.
Speaker 6 (01:50:08):
For the Minnesota Vikings job, he said he was in
there for nine ten hours, said he didn't realize he
was gonna get interviewed for that long.
Speaker 11 (01:50:13):
That's when they want to break you.
Speaker 6 (01:50:15):
That's when they find out if you're really a coach,
that we can have take all this control and take
all of what this is. And they didn't necessarily do
that in that situation. And now where you have a
situation where it goes left.
Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
Let me get back to the injury thing if I can't,
because the Lions play the Rams on Sunday and it's
gonna be big for their secondary against Matthew Stafford and
the rest of that passing offense. Kirby Joseph practiced yesterday,
didn't practice today. The knee injury is something He said, look,
my knee is messed up. We know that, all right,
And he said, you don't fix it, you just keep
(01:50:53):
the faith. Why would a guy practice one day and
then the next day not is there and so swelling?
Is it a chance of reinjury? What do you think
your professional opinion would.
Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
Be on that?
Speaker 7 (01:51:04):
I think he wants to play on Sunday, and no,
over don't. Let's not overdo it right now. He probably
felt that, you know, there's game ready. I mean, we
talk about the old days versus now.
Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
Right.
Speaker 7 (01:51:15):
The old days is like take a shot, do a
lot of this secret sauce type of thing, wrap me up,
and I'm gonna play and I'll deal with the injury after.
Now the business of it has changed that Kirby saying,
I'm somewhere in between. I want to make it. I
got a bum knee, I want to finish the year.
I'm not gonna have surgery to I'm not ready to
say I'm done for the season. I'm gonna test it today.
(01:51:39):
See how it is on a Wednesday. If I mess
it up, I still got a Thursday, Friday, Saturday to
kind of recover and be have purposeful minutes out there
and he's a go guy, you know, is he gonna
hit his full gears? We always talk about gears on
this show. You know, fifth gear being as highest he's
gonna play. You know, it's hard for a d bag
to go fourth fifth true? Agree, I mean a receiver
(01:52:01):
can go because he's controlling it. A d back has
to react to it, so he he has to have
that fifth gear because that receiver knows you don't have
that fifth gear, and he's pushing you, and so does
that the whole offense.
Speaker 11 (01:52:14):
And that's why it.
Speaker 6 (01:52:16):
Plays a little bit better for a safety because safety
doesn't necessarily have to be in coverage, especially as much
as a dB, So you can put your safety in
positions where he doesn't, to your point, have to track
a wide receiver or I have to track a tight end.
So no, that's it's a valid point.
Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
Valid point.
Speaker 7 (01:52:33):
No, I mean he knows his body, you know, as
much as we want to say, we've already said his
injuries there, his knees not gonna be one hundred percent.
I'm better at eighty percent than everybody else. Can I
play at eighty percent here? I think eight I always
use that eighty percent, but that's in his mental mind.
That's where he's got to be. Can he hit at
least fourth gear? I know I can't do fifth gear
(01:52:54):
because I'll be limping off the field. And then there's
the adrenaline of the game that you know, don't understand
underestimated a dryn aone of a game.
Speaker 6 (01:53:02):
Yeah, you mentioned Achilles briefly when we were talking about
the CAFMA. So Achilles relates to Brian Ranch and achilles
injury that he has.
Speaker 11 (01:53:10):
You know, what does that look like in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 6 (01:53:14):
Now, that's because one of the things about Brian Branch
he was a slower safety's slower the knocking him with
the speed although he played it left faster and I
believe Achilles is going to slow you down. Like, what
does that look like in twenty twenty six for Brian
he has a payday on the WEAB you know, or
twenty twenty seven ship.
Speaker 5 (01:53:33):
Where gets dicey.
Speaker 7 (01:53:34):
Yeah, it's he'd be technically should be back in six
to nine.
Speaker 4 (01:53:39):
Months, sitch and nine.
Speaker 11 (01:53:40):
Yeah, that's encouraging, Like, oh yeah, it's not a year.
Speaker 7 (01:53:43):
I mean, look at Cousins and you know already they
could have been back one on one pt Yeah, No,
it's a it's a six to nine month thing. So
we're looking at that. But what I said before is
he's gonna come back kind of like what we do
with Hutchinson. We broke it down where he's going to
be a step off with Hotchets, a different injury with
(01:54:05):
the achilles Like you're saying he's going.
Speaker 5 (01:54:07):
To lose a step.
Speaker 7 (01:54:08):
Was he already considered slowest position? Yeah, slower slower. I
wouldn't call him slow. But the thing is his mental
tough I've said it before. His mental toughness is mental
smarts of football, and his grit. He's got all three
of those. He's gonna become a smarter, more mature player
now with the injury, he's going to learn how to
be different. It's not just pure athletic ability. He's gonna
(01:54:31):
know the game. He's gonna do foot speed where he's
gonna get to that spot a little quicker than running
circles or doing that one extra yard because he took
the wrong direction. You know that's all gonna start happening.
So with him coming back, like I said before, if
you're putting me on the spots, he could be playing
next year and be have purposeful minutes. I think this
guy's gonna be back. He's gonna fight. He wasn't natchal.
(01:54:55):
This guy's been working grit to get on the team.
Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Right.
Speaker 7 (01:54:58):
He wasn't like boom On was.
Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
I'm like, you know, the second round pick, he was on.
Brian Branch was on right away.
Speaker 7 (01:55:04):
He's on right away. But he's not like the A
A list, right. This guy has to work to be
at the A list. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
I got you.
Speaker 7 (01:55:12):
There's some people that's just pure talent. I'm gonna show up.
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a list.
Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:55:16):
He knows how to work, grit and fight. You know.
I call it the Draper factor. You gotta work hard
to be on the starting line.
Speaker 5 (01:55:24):
Drapes, I see Drakes the line.
Speaker 4 (01:55:27):
His skid is a misky.
Speaker 11 (01:55:27):
He's always at Peak's house.
Speaker 5 (01:55:29):
Yeah, he's always there.
Speaker 7 (01:55:33):
Michigan.
Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
Yeah, seventh round draft pick. I think the red Wings
red Wings winter last night, by the way, four to three,
So it's a nice win for them. They're four one one.
Doc thanks Man always appreciated Buddy.
Speaker 7 (01:55:43):
So the mental toughness I just want to go back
to related to everybody, I said.
Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
Doc, thanks, appreciate it, buddy. He missed that part.
Speaker 7 (01:55:52):
For the normal people out there, realize that your mental
issues are there, you need to take care of them.
I'm not sitting here pushing the softness. I wanted to
be tough, but realize that it happens to a lot
of people.
Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
And don't be afraid as you as you've always said,
don't be afraid to talk to people.
Speaker 7 (01:56:08):
Yeah, don't be afraid to talk about it. But don't
over express your feelings either.
Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
Fair enough, you know our feelings for you. We love you. Thanks,
good stuff was amazing as always as always, he looks
it looks great and I love I love that sweater.
Maybe I'll give that to you in three minutes. Three minutest,
let's see if we got any more super chats before
to squeeze in before we're out of here.
Speaker 13 (01:56:31):
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running through that like button today.
Speaker 8 (01:56:36):
Man, they definitely satisfied.
Speaker 13 (01:56:37):
Appreciate you guys, and if you haven't gott an opportunity
to go ahead and smash.
Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
I like button. But we did get a couple more
super chats in here.
Speaker 13 (01:56:44):
Gerald Jessup who sent in the fifty dollars super chat
earlier also gifted ten wolbersports chat members free gifts.
Speaker 4 (01:56:52):
So gift members.
Speaker 8 (01:56:54):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
Good people. I saw the people, thank you, thank you
so much. We're a good person.
Speaker 11 (01:57:02):
Especially daylight today. Man, this was this is just good energy.
Speaker 7 (01:57:05):
This is this is need.
Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
It was little community that loved it.
Speaker 8 (01:57:09):
Yeah, and my guys sighed for ninety nine super chat,
he says.
Speaker 13 (01:57:14):
Ask Jim cal Well, Steve Wilkes, Jared Giro, Mayo, Tyrone
William et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Extremely short leashes,
hashtag win coach black.
Speaker 5 (01:57:25):
Some of those some of those true, Like some of
them mao.
Speaker 6 (01:57:29):
Yeah, some I agree with you, one of them saying,
I mean Houston Texans and then they went through three
in a row, So I definitely understand that. Just it's
a tougher conversation when individuals put them in position to
get ridiculed, Like that's what makes the conversation tough because
now it is that element.
Speaker 7 (01:57:45):
But you did this.
Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
I love Jim Caldwell, you know that. But he had
a couple of chances. I think he I thought he
should have been the head coach, right, you can bring
up exceptions to every rule. I think for the most part,
you guys are one hundred percent right. I mean, I
could say, James Frankly get a long leash, right, I mean,
but then I could go.
Speaker 11 (01:58:04):
That's like one on Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (01:58:07):
He's a brother.
Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
Yeah, he's still black. Okay.
Speaker 11 (01:58:10):
The other thing, if we didn't tell you he was,
you wouldn't know.
Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
Oh come on, who knows James Ringler is back until
someone tells you he's like boy, hey, white guy?
Speaker 4 (01:58:19):
Oh God, I guess if that's the case that saying then, Eminem,
I got to make sure we know that he's white
because he's he doesn't he doesn't talk like he's white. Right,
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (01:58:31):
Eminem confused a brother?
Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
But what I was gonna say is you can find excuses,
and a lot of them. I think you guys are
right for the most part. Eric B. Enemy is a
really good example. Eric B. Enemy should have gotten a
chance to be a head coach somewhere. He was an
excellent oc with Kansas City. Quickly sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (01:58:54):
Yeah, we got one more randalls small so a two
dollars super chat.
Speaker 13 (01:58:57):
He says, when we and by we means alliance when
out who wants to play us in the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (01:59:02):
Nobody?
Speaker 4 (01:59:05):
Well, I'll be the bad guy here. I don't think
Green bayki.
Speaker 5 (01:59:08):
Is a crap.
Speaker 6 (01:59:09):
Yeah, but I give you lining to yourself because at
the end of the day playing in the league, like
we knew the Patriots didn't want to see us. That
was the third time we played, and we beat them.
The very first time, they beat the hell out of us,
the infamous story. When we saw them, we knew they
didn't want to play us. We were coming off beating
the Indianapolis coach like we were feeling good about ourselves,
and you saw what happened.
Speaker 5 (01:59:27):
We beat them down.
Speaker 6 (01:59:28):
Like if they beat the Rams or the Rams are nowhere,
everybody else in the NFC is even further on notice.
And the Packers, Yeah, they just beat you on Thanksgiving.
But once again, to beat the team three times and
now you got to face that team that's coming in.
Speaker 5 (01:59:43):
With seven games the momentum.
Speaker 6 (01:59:45):
Or six whatever it would be by then that's a
tough I would say even Matt Laflores would be tab
bit nervous play the Lions.
Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
I get it. Yeah, I think if you beat the
Rams and you have to go back there and play
them again. I'm not sure how concerned they would be.
I think it's respect. Yeah, I think that's the word
that I'm searching for. All those teams respect the Lions.
I don't know if any of them fear the Lions.
This edition of the Lions, We've got a role. We'll
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We'll go to fancy out the Christmas back, finish up
the Christmas Bracket. I'm looking forward to that. Thanks to
all of you for joining us. Have a great rest
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