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Speaker 2 (02:00):
There's no question about it. Welcome to the Breakin Edward Show.
On a hump day. What's going on, man? I mean,
we got kool aid here, we got Ricky here. Terry
Foster is with us after parading some young folks in
here and having an enjoyable time, and you took a nice.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Picture with him.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
It's very kind of you, shout the t foss man
always coming in at the right time, man, and you
got a chance to talk to kids. He bought in
a program that he works in on Saturday. He'll tell
you more about that.
Speaker 8 (02:25):
But Tea Fos, you'd be happy to know.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
I'm starting to have more respect for getting older, if
you will.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
For you like that, lay on the ground you can't
get back up.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Well no, I'm not like that, but but I have
slowed down t folls. First of all, I went to
Michigan Sports is Fine today. Shout out to doctor Jeff Peers,
who will have in studio tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (02:46):
Went there. He always takes care of everybody, whether you
know him or not. He's a great guy in that department.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I went there because I messed up my back sneezing
on July fourth, and I was in the car.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Legitimately, he's getting old, terry, he's getting.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
That's what I'm saying. It was a sneeze.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
I'm going to the grocery store. I sneezed an old
boy after I threw my back out. Back has gotten better,
but not as good as I would like it to go.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
At least she didn't crack your ribs.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
If you cracked your ribs, sneeze somebody, Oh yeah, are
you guys sneezers?
Speaker 8 (03:19):
Hold it in, let it sneeze.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
I got a shot today because it feels much better,
thank you. But I gotta get shots for sneezing out
At forty two? What is the future home, te fass.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's gonna get worse. Tell you what you got to swim.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
I'm in the gym.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I'll hear you so am I.
Speaker 9 (03:38):
But stuff just happens, bro. You have to look at
the positives every day, like I got out of bed today, okay,
and I'm talking you fine, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's my positive.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
You know what God is good.
Speaker 9 (03:50):
I know I'm gonna go home, honey bun, and I'm
gonna be on the on the by the couch. He
lays on the couch and I lay down, sit down
and runner and she'll rub my shoulders. And then she said, honey,
can you go get me some my shoes. It's gonna
take me an hour to get up and get her shoes.
But I know that's gonna happen. I've already had my
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positive for the day and this YouTube, gentleman.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But well, you got to shoot for a higher bar.
At age forty two, built like a fire hydrant. You
wouldn't have expected that.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And he still got a six pack.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, I drink a six pack. He has a
six pack.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You wouldn't think that he would be pulling some type
of muscle on his back after sneezing.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
But the good news is it goes to the audience
as well as it has nothing to do with being
an athlete or not. You can go see doctor Pierce
and he will get you right. His staff is top tier.
Shout the tear and regime. He got me together, man.
He told me that basically I had a little bit
of a spasm between my L four and L five,
So there's nothing crazy. Everything else looked good, but it's
a little bit of a spasm. Gave me some treatment,
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gave me.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
The secret sauce that he always talks about. Finally got
some of that.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Finally got I'm of that juice and that should be
good about it tomorrow because it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Let me defend from this stamping finally one and I'll
do it very ay. You still know how to get
to the studio without GPS, right, so you haven't lost
your mind yet.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You can still walk NFL.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
It was a little gimpy with this this throwing the
back out with the sneeze because I was I was
inverted and my pelvic was lower on this, higher on this,
so it was like cuck cuckoo, and I'm waiting for.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I like that. That's that's a Pinocchio commercial.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Disney Loony Tiln Somewhere in my mind, that's where I
got that sound.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
But little gimpy. But tomorrow it should be a little
bit better.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
To Hey, Terry brings up something pretty interesting. I'd love
to know from the young folks in this room, and
that's really cool. Ad no offense. Do you guys need
your GPS for everything? But if I said to you, hey,
it's at the corner of the quinder and McNichols or whatever,
could you find it? Or do you need your GPS?
Do you need your your phone for that?
Speaker 8 (06:04):
I'd tell exactly where.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Nicholas, Well, I know that, but you're not the young guy.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Because my kids, when I give them roads, when I
give them coordinates, it doesn't work, really, it doesn't. Hey,
it's on thirteen in Orchard. Okay, where do you mean they're.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
So used to the phone, so used to Google apps.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
Or of course on thirteen there you go right there.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, it's it's not a great one, but it's worth it.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
It gets a job done.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I used to play there is a kid all the time,
and it's it's it's a it's a little bit better
than no dog track.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
But I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, But if I say that to kids, they really
don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Do you do you need it kool aid? Or can
you find those streets?
Speaker 10 (06:49):
To be honest, I can find those streets, man. I
was one of those kids who grew up with the map,
you know what I mean. I was one of the
last though, one of those last.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
What do you mean the map? The trip tick that
you get from Terry Knows.
Speaker 10 (07:01):
They used to have books you have to unfold and
it's like this big right and you're figuring out where
to get in all that. And I got so tired
of like jumping in a car and hear my dad say, yeah,
we're gonna have east And for a long.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Time I didn't know what that meant.
Speaker 10 (07:14):
But as I got older, I was like, you know what,
I didn't grow up with cell phones like that. So
when I drove at first, it was printing off the
map quest stuff and one day got me and then
I figured it out.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Man, No, no, no. When we got lost, you know
what we used to do. Go to the gas station.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That was huge.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
That was huge.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
I did.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And when we went on a trip, we'd go to
Triple A and they'd give you what looked like a
reporter's notebook, right with a highlighted version of where you
gotta go. I gotta get to Ricky's house in South Alabama.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Boom, here we go.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
This is where you're gonna go, and they take you
the entire way. I used to look at those people
and think, my god, they've been all around the world, right,
how did they how do they know how to get
to Ricky's house in South Alabama?
Speaker 9 (07:57):
And you always said this, I'm not lost. Your wife said, honey,
we don't know where we are. You better stop at
the gas station. Well we would fight it, so I'm
not going to the gas station.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
But that's because you're no clue. That's what guys do.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Though, guys will it will take like you'll drive to
the end of the flipp and Earth before you'll admit
you're lost.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Am I wrong about that? Here's at least it will
for me.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm not lost. I know exactly where I'm going, You're
going the wrong way. How do you know where I'm going?
It's not John Candy film. I'm just talking about this.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
This is a perfect transition. T Foster is sitting in
that ship for a reason. Are the Tigers lost? Had
the Tigers went.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Out of gas?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah? They looks looks like it.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Man.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
You know, I know in baseball you're gonna lose six
or seven games in a row.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
But the way they're playing is pathetic.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
And yesterday's game is the worst game I've seen the
Tigers play in decades ever, said chef was calling plays.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, it's impossible. First of all, Terry Foster has been
around this town for a long time. You've seen a
lot of baseball, so have I. Twenty nineteen they won
forty seven games. Two thousand and three, they won forty
three games. Don't tell me that yesterday's game is the
worst game you've seen.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Were bad? That's me. Yeah, saw in the home plate
and missed the plate.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I don't know. I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm not gonna I'm not trying to defend that it
was a good game by any stretch.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
It made me nauseous.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I don't First of all, I don't understand why you
slide in head first at home plate anyway. It's it's stupid,
it's ridiculous. It's a look at me moment, that's all
it is. Think about it for a minute. All the
people in sports, it's about protecting the athletes. I get
pissed off at Roger Goodell. You want to play eighteen games.
You don't care about the athletes. It's about protection baseball.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Let's make the.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Bases bigger, okay, because it's got to have them bigger
so there's no injuries. Pull that picture after eighty five pitches.
It's but you're gonna allow a guy go head first
into an armored man. That's what you're doing. So what
jam your arm jam your wrist?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Why?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And it's doesn't it's not faster, there's there's no decisive
reason for doing it other than the helmet comes flying off.
I get up here, I am. I want to cover
up sports illustrated.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
All right, all right, fellas, put on your thinking cat
and think deeply about this one. The game we saw
yesterday and we just said, okay, you know what, they
have mental lapses and blah blah blah. If Alan Trammell
was the manager of the Tigers, you know what be'
saying tram has lost the locker room. They're not listening
to him. They don't care what he says. He's lost
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the locker room.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Is the manager, you'd say, get rid of him.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
You're right, right, yeah, you're talking about a game like
yesterday transpire, right, Yeah. But the difference is neither one
of those managers were nine games up on the rest
of the AL, well, not the rest of the AL,
but nine games.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
Up in their division and then second in the AL. Yeah,
but neither one of those things. You said, what this.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Is a two week thing. We I'm just saying with the.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Public disagreement, trouble. But I'm saying, neither one of those
two marriagers you name it, came.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And by the way, not that this matters, but they
still have the most wins in baseball.
Speaker 8 (11:09):
They do.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They have the most wins in the American League, and
they're tied with the Cubs and Brewers going into today
for the most wins in baseball. I'm not saying to
gloss over it or look past it by any stretch.
I think mental mistakes are worse than physical mistakes.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I guess what, let's flip that.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
In the last ten game days, they have the most
losses in baseball.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
So something's going on. This is more than just the going.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
Through something that is definitely going on. Look good.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
The La Dodgers lost not was eight games, and you know,
and they just got out of.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
That eleven of fourteen they after losing to the Twins
last night. Even though Tani's homeward in four straight, they
have lost eleven of their last fourteen.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
How many how many times have the Yankees done it?
They didn't last year.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
If they lost six in a row twice this year, but.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
They lost seven in a row.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
But the difference is for the Tigers in terms of
me where I have a little bit of worry right now.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
Yet still first place. Yes, still believe.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
In them, but them as because that that's coaching as
well as players. Like Sheep is saying, also, it's little things.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Excuse me.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Pitching has been the best thing for the Tigers in
this new brand. It's all the bullpen. That's what it's
been called the last two years. It's the bullpen. It's
Terrek School, is Jack flarerity it's the things. Last year
we can get the strikeofs, but we can't get runs.
This year, the dugout, I mean, the bullpen is struggling.
Like everybody's getting hits. Casey Myz, Jack Flaerity, guys are
going yard and guys are getting the ball far, guys
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getting to the warning track all the time.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
Like the thing that they did best is now the
thing that I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Like, Well, pitching hasn't been very good either. I mean
people will look at school and the and the win.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
The other day.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
He got a no decision in the two to one final,
but before the All Star break he was he threw
that bad.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
He got ed and he got rocked in the count.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean it does because if you know, because
if you were playing those individuals as a team like
head up, it didn't matter how good that player was.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
You will say Schools on the mind got to do
his thing.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I don't know. If he got rocked per se, he
gave up the double, that was a problem. I get that.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But I'm talking about even before. The issue I'm having
right now is I mean they're starting pitching. They have
two starting pitcher wins in the month of July. They
have not won since since Tampa when Casey Mice beat Tampa.
That no, Casey Mice beat Cleveland, won nothing? And who
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beat Tampa? Oh Montero, cater Montero beat Tampa in a
five to one game.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
That's Those are the two that's tough starting.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Pitching wins for this team in the month, and we
know that the bullpen is weak. I think the thing
that has carried them more than anything to sixty wins
is their power. I think that's been consistent. I think
it's been much needed, and they have it. Okay, look
at their ops. It's much better than it was a
year ago. Individuals and so on and so forth. But
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now it's a collective calamity. That is the biggest problem
I think.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, speaking of ops, is the guy that I champion
at the beginning of the season at El Mago. You know,
I was I was the one to say he's gonna
back three hundred.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
I thought it was crazy.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
It looked like it for a second, he's back to
old hobby bias. I saw him swing at the pitch,
I said, I recognize that guy from twenty twenty two.
I recognize that guy from twenty twenty three, Mike, I
love Hobby.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
I'm still supporting Hobby. Oh you my guy.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Javier Bass Javir Bas is playing like Hobby Baya's right now.
Like I saw him swing at the pitch. I'm surprised
his hip still works.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
When you when you.
Speaker 9 (14:31):
Swing like you're trying to hit a phantom battery in
the other batter's box, You're you're reverting back to.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Your old ways. It's something wrong there.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, I think he's He's been that most of the season, though.
I mean, let's let's not get he's The difference this
year is that he's hitting fastballs in the zone. Compared
to last year. He's still swinging and missing at sliders. Yeah, okay,
that's kryptonite. Why you would throw him anything, but I
don't know. But that is that that has been primarily
the case, top of your bias.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
So it's not that he's totally different.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's just that he's not swinging and missing at fastballs
as much as he used to.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Question for either one of you guys to jump into
going into the season, even when the Tigers were up
and playing good, every still leary because it's the Tigers.
You know what, I'm saying when you look at the roster,
yes you got emerging Riley Green, yes you have trek School.
But after that, it's like you're hoping that these other
players have shown carry carpenters and so on, that they
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show up. That's where people didn't trust this team. That's
when you look at the Phillies. That's when you look
at the Braves or the Dodgers or the Yankees. They
can have these these these these slumps, or they can
have these skids as they're called, because you know they
still have the roster, they still have the players are
proven and trust Do you trust the young players on
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this team? We keep going back to last year, which
you don't show and rightfully so do we trust the
young players on this team because of the playoffs that
they had last year?
Speaker 8 (15:59):
Or is it a new year tary? And this is
a serious situation.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
I would say this when you looked at one hundred
and sixty two games, they won like a hundred of them,
so you know that this is we thought last year.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
See, we don't believe in the title, but I am.
We don't believe in this team period. Who's the superstar?
Speaker 9 (16:21):
There's no superstar anyway, he said, what, gee, they had
six All Stars. Well remember the Pistons in two thousand
and four, they had four uh people on the h
in the All Star Game. But they we still said,
there was no superstars on this team.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
So you don't look at you don't see any They.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Were stars after they were stars after after two thousand
and four when, but.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
At the time we did not view them as superstars.
They're correct good team. Uh, it was a team. They
they they played together, you know, all this Yeoman stuff.
But we didn't view Chauncey Phillips as an All Star,
even though he is a Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
We didn't.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
They weren't gonna win that championship unless they traded for
Rashid Wallace, you remember all that stuff. So we didn't
totally in this team. Even when the Tigers were just
rolling this year, winning all these series, winning sixty two
percent or sixty one percent of games, we still didn't.
Well I'm saying the public still didn't believe. So, yes
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they look good, Yes they're getting clutches, but wait until
it happens is coming. People just didn't believe. It is
never believed in this scene.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Pissons though in two thousand and two.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I hadn't gotten that sense.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
The Pistons got the Eastern Conference Final, and you're like, shoot,
they could beat the Nets. They should have beat the
I don't think you maybe believed them to beat the Lakers,
but I think going into that O four season, you
believe that they could get to the dance. Just they
couldn't beat the Lakers. That was the sentiment. I believe
that was the sent le.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Let me tell you a story, Okay, Terry time, story
to very time.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Can we put you on hold for that?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Can they do that?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let me take a break real quick. When we come back,
we're gonna light a flyer log.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
All right, we're all gonna curl up.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Everyone's gonna grab a marshmallow. We're gonna put it over
the fire, and we're gonna hear a story from Terry Foster.
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He almost fell asleep.
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I'm gonna argue this. I'm gonna argue this.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
If you're in a bad mood, if you're feeling down,
if you're set ad, you're down.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Trodden is a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
When Ricky opens the mic, it's pretty tough to stay down.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
He's a pretty positive. There's a lot of radio guys
who are negative. Work with at Ricky.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Ricky made fun of me. I don't tolerate that. That's okay,
the hell out of here, That's okay.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Ricky's thick skin.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
He doesn't mind being made fun of, and he can
make he whatever he dishes out he can take.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
He ain't gonna be that that thick skin when I
get his ass fired.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I didn't know you had that kind of power route here, man.
I would have called you a long time ago. All right,
So let's pick it back off. What we were just
talking about the Tigers are getting punked again. They're down,
They're down in Pittsburgh. The fact that this team might
be swept by the Pirates, who have the second fewest
wins in the National League next to the Colorado Rockies,
is not sitting well with people. I understand that I
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don't know where the panic meter is, but Terry and
and Braylan were having a pretty good conversation just before
the break about how dire it could be because they
don't have a quote unquote superstars and everyday player.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (22:05):
I know we want to be able to get that
storytime with t Faalse that we tease before the break,
but I have to get the chat involved here too,
because you talked about that panic, and they're all over
the place, you know, in Lions World. Obviously, I'm seeing
a bunch of Anzo stuff, but as relates to this
Tiger stuff, it's all over the place. You have people
like Harvey Wallbanger who says last year's Tigers went eight
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and fourteen right after the All Star.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Break, and we know how they did in August and September,
so that's not a panic.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
He doesn't think it's a panic, but everybody else in
this chat, they're feeling pretty bad right now, man, And
as he was like, Yo, the Tigers are losing bad
right now, and another picture another day, and just kind
of just perusing through the chats, I would say the
majority of people are feeling a little bit panicked right now.
And as relates to your Hovey bayas take crazy clown
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believes that he's trying to do too much right now,
and that's real.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
You know, sometimes like that trends to any sport. You
know myself in football, I give you an example. In
two thousand and eight, started season after sitting out for
three weeks with injury to my leg. Started the season,
I just was out of rhythm. I dropped a couple
of passes. So now I'm just trying all new ways,
all new gloves, you know, over this three game stretch
and just.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Doing the things.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
I'm doing way too much as opposed to focus on
what Eric Campbell taught me when I was missing one, two, three,
Catch the ball, You tuck the ball and then you
find work. I'm trying to catch the ball before I catch.
You do all this stuff, and when you're on a
bad team, you're trying to do things to help the
team out. Hobby knows his team is struggling, so how
he's trying to make the players. He's trying to hit
the ball, and sometimes it's just too much. Sometimes you
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got to go back to the basics. The basics got
you there. The basics do work.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
So that's a that's a.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
Great him trying to hit the five run home run. Yeah, yeah,
it's just impossible to do.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Baseball is a one sport where like one play, one swing,
it changes the narrative, Like you can be having a
bad game, you can be having a bad week.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
You can be having a bad You.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Hit the bomb to win the game in the ninth inning,
or you hit the bomb to start the run. That
beats whoever you need to beat. Now you can momentumus
from Bear.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
All you need is one hit. Yeah, he can't have
one catching in the NFL, and it changed the game.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And he's got a violent swing anyway, so that only
accentuates it.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
What was this story time with Terry here?
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Okay, two thousand and four, prior to the Lakers Pistons
series in the NBA Finals, I was convinced the Lakers
are going to kill the Pistons.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I thought they were the better team.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
The Pistons were just working hard and lucky to get
to the NBA Finals. But the Trait News sent me
out to La a couple of days early to do
a story on the Lakers, and after talking to Kobe Bryant,
Phil Jackson, Shack, I left that there's no way the
Lakers could beat the Pistons because Kobe and I'm not
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saying I hang out with Kobe all the time, but
he was saying stuff like, you know, when we beat.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I mean, I mean, you know, I didn't say that.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
He was saying when they beat the Pistons, and blah
blah blah. He seemed unfocused and they seem like they
already had that thing.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
He had a lot going on, if you remember, he
had a lot going on.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
He was he was he was in the wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong,
wrong spaces.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I say that that is true. I didn't know that
at the time.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
But he was unfocused, you know, and Phil Jackson was
talking mess and I just saw a team that wasn't together.
And then, you know, I had been dealing with the
Pistons most of that year. I said, you know, one thing,
you're not gonna be able to unravel this team.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
The Lakers go up to a two o lead.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Or something, the Pistons aren't gonna break And I just
thought the Lakers were just we already got this one,
and when you gonna win, thinking you got something one
against a team that's that wants to break down the
walls and stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
That we're not gonna win.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I think there's a I think there's a it's
a fine line in athletics between confident in cockiness. Maybe
we saw the Lakers in two thousand and four as
a little copy kaky.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
You know if Kobe Bryant saying after we beat them,
it's not.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Like that's he's the first of the last athletes to
ever say that and ates.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Before a game.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
They never say that, they do.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Jim Harwall said it before.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Fifteen years ago. Congratulations, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You didn't You didn't give me a time frame, you said.
Nobody says it. Joe Joe Namath said it too.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Okay, there's mister Jerman Kobe, mister Jal.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Kobe also said there's a lot of everyone quotes what
does everyone quote from Kobe at the press conference up
too games?
Speaker 8 (26:39):
John's not dumb.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
That's also so to that point, it gets like to
what t Foss is saying a little bit on the
over cocky set, because maybe say about Kobe starts saying.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
What do you say about Prince who is playing great him?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I'm just measuring them up.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Okay, So so relate that to what the Tigers are
going through.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
There's no relevance here.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Okay. I thought we were. I thought we were connecting
the Pistons.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
Now you brought up the Pistons and I wanted to
fill in the blank.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I got you from two thousand and four. I see
what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think with the Pistons right
now or the Tigers right now, I should say I
understand why people jumping off the ship might be a
little much. I understand the level of concern, especially when
you're losing to teams you feel you're better than, which
should give you credit to the team that you're rooting for.
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The Tigers you consider better than everybody, right, so you
expect them to win every series, and I get it.
Being swept by Pittsburgh is humbling. If they indeed lose today,
I would argue losing to Paul's skins. You know there's
there's there's no shame in that. I don't like losing.
I don't know why anybody would, but baseball, you're bound
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to do that. The Dodgers won the World Championship last year,
won ninety eight games.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Detroit's got thirty eight more ws in them this year?
Are you worried that they're gonna lose the division? Are
you worried that they're not gonna make the playoffs? Who
are you worried about? It doesn't mean we shouldn't be
concerned right now, That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
It was made of seven games in a week.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, that's a Brewers though. Who the hell's making up
seven games in Detroit. It's not Cleveland, it's not Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
They're lucky.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
The division is a five hundred division. Yeah, so the
Tigers will have to fall to five hundred. Yeah, to
have these slouches close to them.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
This is but this is healthy conversation because I'll relate it.
I'll connect it for you good. I'll connect this to
the Lions where the Tigers are right now. Don't panic,
This is just cause for concern. Panigan calls for concerned.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
The two things. I'm not panicking, but this has caused
for concern.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
When I'm seeing how you know, Casey Myes and Jack
Flair are getting hit. When I'm seeing the mistakes made
by speak Tourglesen and Perez at the play. When you
see those, it's just like whoa the ison what they
typically do. Because the guy in which we put all
the faith in at the end of the day is
aj Hinch and what he's done and how he's got
these players acting, and what he's achieved in his career.
So you're fine, but it's calls for concern if the tie,
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If the Lions come out the gate and they're three
and three, don't panic. Do not panic. I'm not saying that.
Wells calls for concern. They play a tough schedule, they
play some great teams, they got to go on the road,
they got to see some things. They have some things
to figure out from last year to this year. Players
players getting hurt right now. So it's not about panic.
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It's just a conversation of calls for concern. If the
Lions are three and three after six, it will be
calls for concern.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
It would not be a panic.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Bro I don't know where you've been.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
The Lions are zero and zero and there's a lot
of fans already panicking.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Well, yeah, because a lot has happened on that's the Lion.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
This is they've want some talent one the injuries are
concerning all that stuff. I get that, and we'll dive
more into in the Lions in a little bit. As
far as the Tigers are concer I think it's how
they lost more than just losing. When there is a
lackluster effort when you drop a ball, usually when he
catches Spencer Turkles, and then you lolly gag after it,
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allowing O'Neil Cruz give him credit for hustling his ass
off to score all the way around the bags from
second base, and you basically allow that to happen. That's
concerning what he said afterwards, apologetic when he got to
the dugout, apologetic to his teammates in the clubhouse. I
don't know how much that factors, but that will stick
with people for a long time. I don't care how
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many doubles he hits, how many home runs he hits,
how many balls he scoops out of the dirt to
save Howvey or bias from a throwing error.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
People are going to remember that.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Unfortunately, if that's just the way the life is, we
remember the negatives. I would ask you this when I
say Joe Dumars as general manager. Let's let's bring it
back to the Pistons. When I say general manager of
the Detroit Pistons, Joe Dumars, what do you think of
Josh Smith?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Docro milicet.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
But it's all negative?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You don't shouldn't you not be thinking World Championship six
straight Eastern Conference run? I'm talking about it's a GM
sixth straight and Eastern Conference. How come we're not thinking that?
We immediately go to the negative? Why is that? When
I say Alavila, what do you.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Think, right?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I don't have any losing records?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, but you don't think that he drafted Terrek School,
but he drafted Riley Greeney, drafted Spencer Tokos, and he
traded for res He. Most of this team is from him,
And I'm not saying he deserves all the credit. I'm
just saying this is the mindset. We think the negative
first and foremost.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
The negative will always outweigh the positive unless you're positive
as Tom Brady unless you're positive, is a certain thing
that you can't dispute. You made a great point. You're
talking about the players. Now, this is a bigger type
of game, this is a bigger stage.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
But it's the same thing.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
When you think of Cam Newton, you think of an
individual that did not want it, like you don't think
about because then that was right there exactly. Yeah, but
that's why you made that point. That's the first thing
I thought of it. You don't think about what he
did at all. What's in my opinion's best quarterback? Because
I saw yeah Or won the MVP of one, MVP
of the league fifteen and one almost went undefeated.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I don't think about that. I think about the crazy
hats with his braids coming out of them.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
That part too, which is negative you don't like to have.
But yeah, you watched tumble comes up too.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah, that fumble. Think about it for a minute.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
But you know, let's go to the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Lions won fifteen games, right, and a lot of those
fifteen games they blue teams out.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, what's the one game we think about Commanders? Commanders?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yeah, and Buffalo because Buffalo too.
Speaker 9 (32:40):
Right, because of that Commander's Game. They can't come back
this year. They're gonna, you know, win seven or eight
games and they'll be lucky to make the playoffs. Blah
blah blahcause we saw it against the Commanders.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Here's what you don't hear.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
What a comeback against Houston.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
No, no, no, who on that defense that played in the
Commander's Game is going to be back art in this year?
Speaker 8 (33:00):
Jack Campbell.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
One dude.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Who's on the defense?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Defense? If dudes who were he's racking at Low's Burger King.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
And O'Connor.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
You got like O'Connor mahogan. That Mahogan, he's the opposite ball.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Connor still on this team. He played for Tampa and
he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
He's backup.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
But everybody's got backups. Wine, you need a ton of
backup you down.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
I don't want to forget it. That Buffalo game.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
That was the game where I was like, I don't
know if this seemed to do it like last year.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
The Buffalo the red flag Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Was the red flag game because yeah, I know what
the score looked like at the end, but Buffalo did
with they did what they wanted to.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Couldn't stop, especially the golden boy. As you said yesterday, Josh.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
I never forget him jumping in the end I got
so I was like I was in New York. I
was so mad because I was in New York watching
that a Lion's bar. Very first time I've ever gone
in a destination and I'm going to a bar to
watch the Detroit Lions team idn't even played for it,
wearing Lions gear. I go into this Detroit bar, I'm excited.
I'm talking to the people's hell of Jets fans in there,
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and Lions are getting cooked cooked said Jersey under it.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Next time, I just took I took it off and
had this shirt on.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Well that's a that's a really good looking shirt. Why
does why did it bother you that Josh Allen did that.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
That that when he the finger roll in the end zone?
Why would Why wouldn't it bother me that?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I hate That's what.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
The NFL has becoming. I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
That's what the NFL has becoming. What about the staged
rolling boat.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
I mean, as a Lions fan, I didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
As a Lions fan, It's okay when the Lions do it.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Standing on the head the whole night.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with it, per se.
The only thing where I agree with you is that's
not what he typically does. Josh Allen isn't the guy
doing the celebrating like that. So when he did it
to the Lions, it kind of was like, I'm gonna
do this because this is supposed to be the Have.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
You ever gone out of character when you're on the
football field?
Speaker 7 (35:07):
Calibrate like, that's who my character is. My character is
getting in zone. You know what I'm saying. I'm feeling it.
I got a celebration twenty nine, ten eleven. I was
duggying all over these dvs.
Speaker 9 (35:16):
How would y'all feel if Justin Jefferson stood on his
head after beating the Lions?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
I would be very.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Much said, Sa Brown did it great? Let's make a
cake out of or how about that? How about in
the net?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
How about in the Netflix series Quarterback when Jared Goff
is talking to aman Ross Saint Brown, who's talking about
their celebration after they get a touchdown. When we get
it in here, we're gonna score a touchdown, this is
gonna be the celebration and Jared Goff is seen saying,
I can't even worry about that. How is that much
different than Kobe Bryant saying what he said to you.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
Because he's about to go into a series, uh, you know,
the finals, and he doesn't even know who he's playing.
He doesn't understand the the ramifications of his words.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
The other thing is.
Speaker 9 (36:13):
And she mister journalists, No, No, I want to ask you.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I want to ask you this question.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
Whenever you ask a player who's going into a series
and the other series hasn't been decided, who would you
rather play? The Browns or the Jets? What answered you?
Always does?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Right?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Mister writer?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
But you asking the question?
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Who's won a lot of awards for his writing purposes?
Asked me? Answer me this?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
How many times do you roll your eyes and say
I want to hear a real answer.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
No, here's what I say all the time.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Hey, dumb asked, why did you even ask that question?
You know what they're gonna say. That's what I say.
I'm mad at the person who asked the ask the question.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
You're mad at the person because you think it's a
waste of space.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Waste of time.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
I got business to take care of, and you little
pretty little boys and girls look at me asking stupid
questions like who would you rather play the jets of
the rounds? Well, damn, we've heard that question for one
hundred years.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Can get the same answer you and twenty five hundred
press conferences. Somebody is going to ask a bad question,
and they do it because they want to be heard. Yes,
person in the back, Hi, I'm Detroit kol aid. I
just wanted to ask you, how does it feel to
be in the finals? It feels like crap? Next, you know,
I mean someone's gonna ask the question.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
How does it feel it will be?
Speaker 9 (37:47):
I don't mind bad questions because I understand sometimes the
writer or the TV person is trying to get a
certain response. I have a problem with asking the same
dumb question over and over and over again.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Give me a break.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Is this a dumb question? Marcus Davenport? Who a lot
is expected of? Or a lot of maybe not even
expected a lot of writing on because I don't know
what the expectations is at this point, but I know
a lot is riding on. I think a reporter asked
him a question. Reporter also joined the interview in games.
I can't remember what asked, but He's basically asking about
playing on the other side of eight and this year.
Speaker 8 (38:27):
What was he going to provide?
Speaker 7 (38:28):
And this he ready kind of a layup type question,
if you will, And his response was, don't ask me that.
Don't worry about me, you know, don't worry about what
I'm gonna do like that kind of was I'll find
the exact one and bring it in.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Don't look at me. That's what it was.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
That was, That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
You know what, brilliant question. Brilliant in my opinion question.
This is coming from a former athlete. I'm always side
with the athletes. I can see through the minutia now
and I do a better job.
Speaker 8 (38:59):
But I'm all, what south athlete is?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
What it is?
Speaker 7 (39:01):
I thought it was an easy question. I thought it
was a great question. I thought it was a layup
for him to say, you know what, I'm excited to
get back. You know, it's gonna be a fun season.
I'm excited to help out. He could have said any
generic answer, and he chose to go a route that
now has me questioning the guy that I already had
questions about.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
It is correct?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Do you guys get help with this? Not that you
need help with answering questions. But do you is there
any prep whatsoever from anybody to try and help you
navigate through some of these Terry fosterss difficult water, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
When I was in Cleveland, they had it, but it
wasn't necessarily dialed in and as a twenty two, twenty
three year old. And I'm not trying to go to
media training like I went to Michigan. I did four years.
I know the media. I'm fine. When you have Mary
Kay Cabot and individuals like that that can throw you
some curve balls, you tend to put your foot in
your mouth, you know what I'm saying. So we had it,
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I didn't use it, got caught in it, learn my
lesson until years later.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
But I need to hear chef.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
You remember the young man named indamakan Su who recently
tired on the I forget his name, the offensive lineman's arm.
The Lions came up with an apology for him. They
wrote it out, they gave it to him before he
hit the media. He had time to read it, look
it over and say.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Okay, you know what he did, tore it up. I'm good.
Speaker 9 (40:28):
Then he went out there and said, uh, he.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Was in my way. I didn't try to stop his arm.
He was in the way.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
Come on, we we got eyes and we got brains.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
We know he stumped that man.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
We don't know what he said to him.
Speaker 8 (40:46):
We don't know what he said his mama.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Look.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I appreciated in Dominicansou's effort all the years you and
I were training camp all the time. I love that
he showed up every single day. He as an ass
kicker every day. You could rely on him. Okay, doesn't
mean you got to like me. Okay, I get it.
People are pulling it brailin everywhere. I see it all
the time, and I see it with other athletes. He's
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got plenty of friends. He doesn't necessarily need people in
the media, but there's oftentimes a mutual respect and you know,
covering in Dominicansu every single year, every single practice that
he was here, and just about every game he played
home and away. I remember asking a question one time
and he said, well, sir, blah blah blah blah gave
me this. And I followed him into the locker room
and I said, let's just get something straight here.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
You know, me, I know you.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I'm not asking to come over for Christmas Eve dinner.
I'm just saying, you know me, I know you to
sit there and tell me what you just said, like
some generic bull crap is flat out bull crap, okay,
and I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
May listen to you shit, dang. I know that.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Making friends in the media is not siding with the enemy,
and I didn't learn that until I left Cleveland. When
I got to New York, I was all hands on
deck in all spaces, like my for lack of a
better court, my miscummings as an organization, as our team up.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
I learned from that.
Speaker 7 (42:08):
So when I got to New York, I made friends
with all the media people. I would give them interviews.
I wouldn't go to the house for like you said,
New Year's Eve dinner. But I was cordial enough. I
found a couple people that I liked, did interviews with
them all the time. I was always available. I still
have love respect in New York. Like when I go
to New York, like, it's oh, Brakland, whatever he needs,
whatever he wants, can't do my show, Sure, I'll do
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your show.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
What's going on? It's been a while basking sure, but
that helped.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
That helped my whole transition from Cleveland. Transition is a
funny word, help my whole transition from Cleveland. In the
space that oh, we're gonna be this guy's friend because
he's taking us serious's part of that. You ain't got
to go out and hang with them and you're not
dropping dirt on teammates. Say yeah, let me give a
little tibbit on what Mark Sanchez did. To be friends.
Isn't to be a quaint citizen to be friends. It's
to be smart so that when you talk to them,
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what you talk to them about, how you wanted to
get out, it gets up because if you don't make friends.
Speaker 8 (43:02):
They heard you, they know what you said.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
They recorded it, and because they don't like you, they
can clip it a certain way.
Speaker 9 (43:08):
Well, some are terry, the younger ones are, and then
there's these old curmudgeons.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
But for the most part, we're not to get you.
Speaker 13 (43:16):
Watch that we want the what word is that?
Speaker 4 (43:20):
We want the truth?
Speaker 8 (43:21):
That's who you spelled curmudgeons.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Did you guys notice Bradley kind of slipping Mark Sanchez there?
But I don't know if you guys caught that I did.
I listened, man, I'm you know, not like Mark Sanchez doesn't.
It just goes keeps going right through it.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
One thing I loved about New York is like they
didn't care about the gossip unless you're talking about what
happened with Brett Faire, which is before me and Mark
Sanchez because he was dating Eva Longoria at the time.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
So they cared.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
About thank you, you're a little late on that.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
There it is.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
They didn't care about they play football. That's what I
appreciated about getting to New York was the stories were
about the locker room to field coaching. What the hell
is going on with the team Cleveland when you're used
to losing like we were at that time. Let's find
things outside football, because yeah, everybody knows the story Brown suck.
You know, this happened, This happened, This happened. What can
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we engage in that will attract you know, readers because
it read.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
But that's what it's about now, right.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I mean, I don't know if that's where Terry was going,
but it's about cliques and we're gonna do everything we
can to right.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
I can only speak for you. I never wrote for CLIs.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
I know you didn't.
Speaker 9 (44:30):
I didn't because I was looking for the truth. I
wanted to present my truth. I wanted to hear truth
from the athletes. I wanted to tell good stories. It
was never for clicks.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Yeah, you had good relationships I did.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
I tell you.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Mark cguire remember the young young people. You remember him.
Here's here's how I got a scoop from him. I
got I gotta.
Speaker 9 (44:56):
I got a big scoop for him because of Jim
shoes and I'm a fool.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
One time the reporters were interviewing Mark.
Speaker 9 (45:04):
Cguire and then he looked at all the reporters and said,
why y'all wear gym shoes? Somebody said anything and ahaha,
and I said, you know why we wear gym shoes
because your ass has escape routes where you can duck us.
You have little doors. And so we got to chase
after you if we need a story. And so he went, oh, man,
there's always one in every crowd. So we laughed at
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off and stuff and he's and then when everybody left,
he said, hey, man, I got something for you.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
I said what he said, I might.
Speaker 9 (45:33):
Be able to play for the Mexican Olympic basketball team.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
I'm like, I'm like, turn on.
Speaker 9 (45:40):
That tape recorder and say speak my brother speak. So
I had a big story. Markcguire is gonna his grandfather
was from Mexico and it's actually his name is not Michaelguire,
it's Mark Agide. And then he said that he's contemplating
he might play. And then I interviewed the Mexican.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
Well that's interesting. Is it's interesting?
Speaker 4 (46:00):
How that is?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
So I had a I had not similar, but I
had an encounter with Charles Barklay at the Palace.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
We're all around.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Interviewing Charles Barkley before a sixers or I think it
might have been with the Suns, but either way against
the Pistons, and he was complaining about how much the
NBA owners are making compared to players, and everybody's showing
him love, and I'm actually stood up and I said, well,
you don't have a problem cashing your paycheck, do you?
So you know, and he later on shoved me into
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a wall in the visiting locker.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Room in in Detroit or at the Palace.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
So I guess this was this is your approach to
markcguire worked out a hell of a lot better than
my approach did with Charles Barklay.
Speaker 7 (46:41):
I can tell you that somebody asked me to chat,
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Speaker 8 (46:45):
So I have a million of them. But here's one
funny one.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
And we'll go to a commercial break here about filming
in the say, but there's this restaurant called XO, and
it's in Cleveland's West ninth Like that would be the
spot where everybody, especially when I was there, that was
x So.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
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Speaker 7 (47:00):
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know you want to be parked.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
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Speaker 3 (47:24):
Five.
Speaker 7 (47:25):
I had a Bentley Coop two thousand and five Mulliner
edition that man I threw the struck hit on that thing,
Black Realms.
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We was in here doing big things.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
So guess who else had a Bentley Mulliner. Yeah, with
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Speaker 8 (47:44):
So my car was parked.
Speaker 7 (47:46):
There legitimately gated keys to the vallet situation and going,
I go about my meal. I'm eating, I'm chilling. I
come out like Lebron came in as I was eating.
Speaker 8 (47:56):
He gave this.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
You know, I spoke to him. We were cool at
the time. What's going on doing? He's with his peoples,
with his mom, and then he goes to his little
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leave forty five minutes later and I try to get
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Speaker 8 (48:13):
This dank go where's my car?
Speaker 7 (48:16):
Lebron asked if you could move move the car because
you got, say, the same car. So we went on
ahead and moved you down the block. Don't worry your meals,
your meals on me and I take you. I was like,
no meals, I'm fine, I could pay my own meals.
I said, don't move my car for somebody else's car.
And if he had to ask business, tell him to
come ask me. Heyb yo, we'll talk man. I would
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and I don't want it.
Speaker 8 (48:42):
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I'm saying? In fact, you had to come ass I
would have respected that.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
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Speaker 8 (48:47):
I would have said okay and left.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
I would have said here earlier.
Speaker 8 (48:51):
I just that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 6 (48:52):
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Speaker 9 (48:53):
Well if he pat you on the head, said, aren't
you the little fellow the plays with Lebrons?
Speaker 7 (48:58):
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Speaker 8 (49:01):
Don't come to this ways, tea. I don't play that.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
Ain't patting me on my head, don't care how to
all you? And with that we hear something about her.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
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Speaker 9 (49:15):
She's gonna get a hot meal, so I gotta go
cook for mama.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Right, what do you just.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Out of curiosity, just sort of curiosity, what are you
cooking to night?
Speaker 6 (49:21):
You said you're gonna be thinking bye, Oh.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
You're talking about food?
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (49:28):
Let me?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Will you do me a favorite?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
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next time you come here. Can you cook first and
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I'll smoke for you one day, okay, you that's right.
Speaker 8 (49:40):
I thought I don't eat what he's saying saying. I
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Speaker 4 (49:49):
I got and I'm gonna sample on her.
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Yeah, right now, right now, Ricky and I are looking
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Pleasure, always a pleasure chapping it up with you guys, sir.
So this is fun.
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I just got to let you know that forty three
percent of the people their.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
Level of concern is now mad packs high.
Speaker 10 (56:35):
Forty percent of our little concern only seventeen percent of
the people are stoked and not scared for the Detroit
Tigers right now.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Brian, Shit, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Six' one was the. Final Today pittsburgh beats, them they Sweep.
Detroit detroit has now lost nine of. Ten they have
lost eighteen of their last thirty. Two they're under five
hundred for the. Month the only TEAM i believe in
baseball or have the fewest wins in baseball over the
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last month or so small. SAMPLES a series a week
is one. Thing the month long series or the month
long indications and trends are. Concerning i'm not gonna try
to convince people that they shouldn't be. Concerned i'm concerned.
Too i'm wondering if this is who they are or
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if this.
Speaker 6 (57:30):
Is just a bump in the. Road that's What i'm
trying to figure. Out what's the identity.
Speaker 7 (57:36):
Same it's tricky because you know this happens' one hundred
and six two games in. Baseball you know you're gonna
hit those, Skids you're gonna hit those, moments so you
have to get, up you have to. Rebound but if
we continuously see things like, yesterday just that, game let's
not even take this series as a, whole just this
particular game that we talked, about the play a first,
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place the play at, home just the way that the
are giving up hits like this becomes the.
Speaker 8 (58:03):
Norm whois what's laughing? At go?
Speaker 6 (58:07):
Ahead i'm laughing at the chat chat.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
Hilarious SOMETIMES i dive into that chat and it's like
you can't get.
Speaker 8 (58:14):
Back it's like a black.
Speaker 7 (58:15):
Hole their conversations are not even talking about what we're talking.
Speaker 8 (58:18):
About but it's so, engaging so.
Speaker 6 (58:19):
GOOD i.
Speaker 7 (58:21):
Believe The tigers are still the. Team, look they're still
they're at sixty. Wins you, know they're still at sixty.
Wins they're still. Ahead they still have everything else in.
Play they got twenty games coming. Up if they, don't
if they're not twelve at least and eight in those twenty,
games it's a. Problem you got The Blue, jays who
are rare hot coming in. Here that's a. Series, look
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take a. GAME i want them to win that. Series
the way they're playing right, now it doesn't look like
they may be able to do.
Speaker 8 (58:48):
That it's split it with. Them what is? It, one, two, three?
Four split the series with The Blue jays beat The.
Speaker 7 (58:52):
Backs take two from the fields and then you got
the Freaking twins And.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Angels, yeah you know the split. THING I first of,
all it depends on who's. Pitching second of, all they're
under five hundred on the. Road toronto had an eleven
game home winning streak snapped last. Night they're a good baseball.
Team you don't lead The east if you're not a
good baseball. Team for, ME i don't you gotta win
series if you want to have success in?
Speaker 6 (59:19):
BASEBALL i look at. IT i know this is.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
BORING i look at a game to game, Literally So
i'm not sure about the splitting right. Now BUT i
think your long term, solution where you're saying next twenty
games go twelve and, EIGHT i still think we'd be
disappointed to twelve and.
Speaker 6 (59:32):
Eight i've always said. This the bar.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
Moves the expectations are higher now because of what they've.
Done that should be a good thing for. THEM i
believe they feel. That but the expectations are higher for
this team because of what they were able to accomplish
in the first ninety. Games all, right but the last
month should be concerning for. Us look at the offensive,
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production or the lack, thereof that is. Alarming look at
the problems with, pitching and before somebody tells, me, well
It's Toy. Melton today he was making his major league.
Debut all we heard about is the reason he was
brought up is because he was a tenth overall.
Speaker 6 (01:00:10):
Prospect and look at what he did At.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Erie he may have been a bit of a struggle
a year, ago but what he's done At erie has
warranted the call. Up and there's gonna be. Butterflies you
know that better than. Anybody but he failed today. Miserably
that doesn't MEAN i give up on. Him i'm just
saying that's a serious. Issue this team needed. Something they
needed the proverbial shot in the. Arm they didn't get
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it from their pitcher or from anybody else out there
who recognized the same. Situation this kid's gonna need some
early run. Support, butkus this kid's gonna need some help
from behind.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Him.
Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
Nothing that's my concern as much as anything.
Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
Else, COOL i bring it up to. You what does
this feel reminiscent? Of this feels reminiscent of before guitaring
is won on that skin last? SEASON i, mean excuse,
me before they got hot forty star, cooking before they
doubted all the, Naysayers, yes everybody down including. Us they
couldn't get. Hits they had pitching that was going well
and they couldn't get. Hits they couldn't support the pitching.
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Staff that's what it's starting to feel, like at least to.
Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
That it is starting to look like that a little.
Speaker 10 (01:01:14):
Bit but you, KNOW i do throw it back To
Harvey wallbangers shout out to one of the most epic
names about our chat, family who, said you, know right
after The All star break last, year they did start
eight and, fourteen they were still trying to figure out.
Things we were what they, Had torque And Parker, medals
who had taken some trips down To TRIPLE. A i
was down there For Parker medal's assignment and it was
getting all the little different tips and pointers From broder
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on what to look out, for and it was, like
bro it doesn't, matter he's hitting. Everything it looks like
his mind is. Right and then we know what Carry
carpertureman as well to This Detroit tigers. Team so getting
healthy last year and getting some of those players who
are kind of going through some slumps right over that
kind of first week or two After All star, break
we saw The tigers go through this now to this. Tune,
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no this is WHERE i believe just starting to get
some people who are getting to become a little bit
more concerned BECAUSE i thought that this chat was gonna be,
Won and like a lot of the narratives that you
hear among social, media and there's a lot of comments out,
there there's a whole lot more people who are more
concerned THAN i thought they would be with the.
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Team i'm still one of the best record wise in
all of.
Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Baseball, Yeah i'm not surprised by, it AND i don't
think they should should be.
Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
Under, concerned if there's such a.
Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Word they should be concerned because just because they've got
sixty wins doesn't mean they're playing the best.
Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
Baseball just because they were the first.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Team to forty wins and fifty wins and sixty wins
doesn't mean squat to people right, now they have a
right to be concerned because of the recent. Trends and
it's not a short sample, size it's not very small at.
ALL i don't you guys know. Me i'm not hyperbold at.
All but over the last, month they have not played good.
Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
Baseball, OKAY aj hints this is a statement from your.
Skipper we are a much better team and a cleaner
team than what we've. Shown we've been turning in some
struggles that we know we can. Fit the question is
do you believe they know that they can fix these.
STRUGGLES i do believe they know they can fix the.
Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Struggles does that mean they will fix the struggles not
necessarily fair?
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Enough, yeah that's the. Problem.
Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Now i'm not gonna go so far as to say
what somebody said the, chat which is. Hilarious The Blue
jays are going to be piss out of this FOUR a.
TEAM i don't think it's it's not a eighteen, sixty
it's not.
Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
A four eight. Team but.
Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
When a team is playing out of, character and that's
what it's doing right. Now they are playing out of.
Character because that's WHY i always ask, people how long
do you need to identify what a team? Is football's
a little, different Right, FOOTBALL i think you'll probably get
that in the first quarter of the. Season, baseball if
you take the first quarter of the, season it's forty
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games or. So and we wanted to jump all over
this team like they're the best team in. Baseball and,
LOOK i said it Too i'm not blaming people in
the chat or anybody here in our. STUDIO i said
it too after forty. Games maybe we jumped the gun
a little. BIT i did precursor that by saying last,
year if you recall point zero two percent to reach
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the playoffs and they made a miraculous. Run who says
it can't go the other? Way why do we think
that it's always got to be through the positive lens of?
Things how come it can't be a?
Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
Negative do we really Think zach, McKinstry who's a two
thirty career, hitter is going to hit two eighty five all?
Year probably, not he's his.
Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Level you, know usually it.
Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
Does AND i hope it's not BECAUSE i Like zach.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
McKinstry But i'm just, saying do we Think Javier bias
was going to have the first half of the. Season
we were told his hip is healthy now and all
these other, things and yet we saw for three years
that it wasn't that. Guy so and all he's done
is get gotten.
Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
Older i'm gonna provide some, optimism and optimism is, this
would it be cool if this happens?
Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
Now we? Struggle now games left Big?
Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
League you find, yourself because all championship, teams whether you
win The World, series whether you Win Stanley, cup The larry,
O'Brien The, lombardy doesn't. Matter you're going to go through.
Something there will be a period that you go through
that you have to. Overcome and in those, moments you
learn about, Yourself you learn about the, team you learn
about the squad even deeper Than, yeah you know yourself
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a little. Bit you made the playoffs last, year you
beat The astros who them losing as well definitely.
Speaker 8 (01:05:27):
Helps but this is a different. Season this is.
Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
Different you now lead the al the whole season so. Far,
essentially you gotta find. Yourself you gotta have that moment
of adversity. Too this is, okay we got through. That
now we know how to pull ourselves up from our.
Bootstraps like Aj hinches saying that they. Can't it's a
lot of ball left in the. Season and if it's
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happening right, now and you can fix this in the
next these twenty, games, now you still got thirty nine
games to rock and.
Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Roll, Yeah, NO i took a.
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
POINT i think baseball is a little weird in this.
Regard fifty nine games seems like a lot. Doesn't but,
then on the other, hand it doesn't feel like that much.
Either it's a weird feeling THAT i have at this
time of the year in. Baseball you feel, Like, okay
pretty soon it's going to be closing. Down and then
you look at and you wait fifty nine. Games that's
a long. Time it's hard to reverse, it. Though you
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need something to create. THAT i hate the, phrase But
i'll say it. Anyway create the. Spark where is the
spark for this? Team, because let's face, It casey my
struggle before The All star, break he struggled during The
All Star game to a certain, extent gave up the
bomb A Corvin carrol and struggled in his last. Start
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jrek scoobl was really. Good we've said this for a while.
Now i've said this for a long. TIME i like
the two. Starters, okay schoobl and mis really. Good, right one's.
Exceptional Jack, flaherty where's your confidence level with? Him instead
of looking at the entire, team look at the? Players, yeah,
okay Where's that's why when people in the chat are
saying trade for A Uhanio suarez and a, reliever that
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doesn't cut. It you Need i've said this. Forever you
need a. Starter, okay you're going into a playoff. Series
how many starters do you?
Speaker 6 (01:07:13):
Need?
Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Three give me the three guys you're ultimately confident in right,
now scooble question. Mark question, mark whether you believe it or.
Not most, people when you have your conversations with your,
buddies whether you're at the barbershop or, not not many
people are confident In Jack flirty because of the way
he's pitched this, year And Casey mice hasn't proven it
to you just.
Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
Yet, Yeah Jack flerdy also, Too, LIKE i know you
want to go back to the last, season but like
he did not pitch well necessarily in the playoffs towards
the end of the playoffs with The, dodgers right one
understand with The, dodgers and he comes here and then
he struggled essentially from the start of the.
Speaker 8 (01:07:45):
Season start is up a.
Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
Little bit on the hating, side but now he is,
struggling and you start to look.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Back for a number two. Starter that can't. Happen, no
not if you have, it not if you. Believe, look
if you're happy just winning the, division that's. One but
if you expect to win a playoff series or two
and reach The World. Series you're relying only On Trek.
Scooble think, again because.
Speaker 10 (01:08:09):
We were just sitting here talking, about you, know a
lot of, shows not just, ours a lot of networks
talking about the fact that this team is gonna have pitching,
depth and now you do post something that we really
have to sit here and talk. About you got to
have your starters, right and it's come unto some. Question
early in the, season the first half of the, season
we saw this team win despite like slumps From.
Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Torque here and, There Riley, green Jack.
Speaker 10 (01:08:34):
Erdy now we're seeing the team not necessarily win despite
those and why because what was supposed.
Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
To ultimately be the strength from the beginning of the.
Speaker 10 (01:08:42):
Season it's pitching is now becoming a question mark that
we shouldn't have with this. Team if you're talking about
This Detroit tiger's team and success is gonna have to
start and end with this.
Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Pitching the bullpen was a, strength there was a weapon of.
Speaker 10 (01:08:55):
Theirs and now you're looking at The Detroit tigers team
where you got some questions about what depth really will
they be able to take him to the? Playoffs and
you're hoping that they definitely do something at the trade.
Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Deadline but you're.
Speaker 10 (01:09:05):
Right before we thought it was finishing. Pieces you were
right on, That. Matt now we're not so. Sure now
the questions change a little. Bit AND i do believe
when you talk about some, concern this's right to have
a level of. Concern BUT i See Thomas woodford here
in the. Chat he, says keep it a. Buck they're
just coming back to the pack a. Little they were
so far ahead of the. Curve give them a breakdown
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and a chance to get back to, basics win the
division and get hot again.
Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Late he, thinks it's just that.
Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
Simple you asked that question that you asked me earlier through.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Texts, yeah my question was AND i understand it with
how your bias because we've seen it for three. Years
the question is how your buyers makes twenty five million.
Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
Dollars see this.
Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Goes back to what we were talking about. Yesterday everybody
associates players athletes with their how much.
Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
Money we never asked how? Much you.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
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Got a new movie coming up out To Naked, Guns.
Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Bad, PEOPLE i.
Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
CAN'T i can't fathom him as that lead. Role but, okay,
whatever BECAUSE i keep seeing, him you know him him
working on The serbians with with. Taken but, anyway, yeah
different set of, skills, right we asked, it so twenty
five million For Havier bias and All i've heard for
three plus years is.
Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
He's not worth the. Money fair, Enough, okay That's Jack
flairty makes the same amount of. Money why don't ever hear? That,
BOY i never hear.
Speaker 8 (01:10:29):
IT i think it's and this is just.
Speaker 7 (01:10:31):
ME i DON'T i don't technically, know BUT i think
it's because it's in this space that he's been last
year and now this he's been not, hidden but he's
been a part of a. Collective and the collective Is
Chris fetder and The tigers, bullpen The tigers pitching, staff
and how good they were last year and you know
how many times he had thirteen strikes and, oh by the,
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way they lost zero to.
Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
One i've got a high strikeout to walk, right strike
out for nine.
Speaker 7 (01:10:56):
Year so every time you see him up, there he
may give up two jacks and he may give up four,
arms but he's getting seven, k's eight, k's nine. K's
so you see that and you just wash it over
because well it's the pictures to, have the pitches to
have is a thing that makes The tigers. Go so,
Yeah i'm not sure About Jack, Flairty you're, right. One
that's the reason. Why oh well he went out to
The dodgers in won The World.
Speaker 8 (01:11:15):
Series, yeah and then he came. Back he came back
to little Old.
Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
Detroit no one's ever done, that, Right SO i think
that's Why jack gets a pass and that and he shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Real, Listen, yeah absolutely beating by the, way well he's
striking out eleven per. Nine hobby Or baia is just
striking out too often for. People, yeah again the negative
compared to the. Positive, okay but, yeah both his strakeoffs
will be equivalent to How Will hobby was.
Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
Fielding even When hobby is struggling everywhere, else he seems
to be out center field or whatever you want to put,
him the strakeoffs will be equivalent to him.
Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Fielding.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Yeah the the the cry for doing something on the
part Of Scott harris is going to get louder and
louder as this. Continues not that it wasn't loud before.
Today Is july twenty. Third the trade deadline Is july thirty.
First it is eight days. Away so we talked about
didn't we just say earlier that The lions first game In,
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canton in The hall Of fame game.
Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
Is eight days?
Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Away, okay it's also The Major League baseball trade. Deadline
And i'm very confident That Scott harris and his crew
are working their ass off to try and get something.
DONE i don't doubt. That the Question i'm wondering is
what are they going to get? Done are you going
to go.
Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
For A i don't, know let's Say Sandy.
Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Alcontra, okay let's say you know a guy Like Sonny,
gray for example In Saint louis on where you get
him for a little bit of? Time or are we
going to focus only on the, bullpen BECAUSE i think
the starting pitching is just as important as an acquisition
as the bullpen would.
Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
Be, Definitely oh, YEAH i, SAID i think.
Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
It is he going to go out and get a
starting pitcher like a sunny, grade like A Sandy, Alcontra Chris,
bassett somebody like?
Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
That are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
That or do you feel like a lot of people
focus strictly on the. BULLPEN i think the starting, pitching
or a need for a starting, pitcher is just as,
important if not more than the.
Speaker 7 (01:13:17):
BULLPEN i think he will go out. HERE i think
he will go out and get a. Start and this
is WHY i got a couple of friends on. Insights
so this comes from other places within The tigers.
Speaker 8 (01:13:26):
Organization mind.
Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
YOU i think what you heard in the offseason about
what was attempted on One Alex, BRAGMAN i think going
back To Scott harris signing all his players this year
was trying to run back what they did last year
because they didn't believe in those players last. Year and
this has come from in house like that come back
and getting into the, playoffs that was roll these players
out there because we don't, believe and we'll see what
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we get out of those and then we'll see what
we want to do for the twenty twenty five. Season,
well those, players they, worked and they got you to
the playoffs and they won you a playoff. Series coming
into this, year he wanted to roll that back and
see what you really could get out of. IT i
think now we're at a point where he said he
wanted to Buy Alex bregman in the off. SEASON i
think the sky hair sees what The tigers are doing
in terms of this, city coming, back getting back to
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well For, chris what his father, was essentially in terms
of what the team.
Speaker 8 (01:14:14):
Was in terms of, THAT i don't think they have a.
CHOICE i think they Are scott And chris their gun
ho about what this can.
Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Be, well they've got to Be they've got to go.
OUT i, mean you can go get A Mitch, keller
who pitched against him last. Night you can go get
A Zach. Gallon you can get some of. Those AND
i don't care about the. Name i'm talking about how
effect can you? Play can you?
Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
Play this is why they saved the money in the off,
season in my. Estimation this is why they didn't go
him and paying people up with the exception. Pregnant this
is why they didn't spend a ton of money in
the off. Season they were waiting for this trade deadline
moment because they believed in this team being. Good they
knew they would need, something just didn't know what that would.
BE i think they know what they need.
Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
Now well that's.
Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Concerning if that's the, case it's concerning because the need
was clearly. Identified so that's concerning you were gonna.
Speaker 10 (01:15:02):
Say, NO i was just gonna, say you, know you
guys have been around, this and you Hear Scott harris
about a month ago state we believe that this is
a world series, year not just a long term, window
not just what we're building to in.
Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
The, future but this year world.
Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
Series so we're going to hit the trade deadline and
we are going to be. Aggressive and Now i'm wondering
what exactly does that mean because this, team it has
shaped up as the season has gone now beyond just
to start the, year we would have said you got
to go out there and get a bat or. Two,
now all of a, sudden as a year starts going,
on now it's a we got to show up the.
Bullpen and now at this, juncture it's a lot more
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out there for them to. Do SO i wonder how
much of his initial what was, Aggression what was he
going to be at the trade deadline to go out
there and try and put them over the top versus.
Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Or clear right, now it's probably clearer now what they
need than it was before the beginning of the, season
BECAUSE i don't think they anybody ever Thought Dylan dingler
would be this. Effective for, EXAMPLE i don't think anybody,
YEAH i don't think offensively in, DEFENSE i might assure.
IT i don't think, yeah it's it's really impressive what he's.
Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
Done. Uh and by the, way An alavila. Pick BUT
I i JUST i.
Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
DON'T i don't know what aggressive means you can. MAKE
i don't care how many deals you. MAKE i care
about who you get and how they fit in with
this team more than anything. Else All, right that's the
most important. Thing what are you Addressing if you're addressing
if you're getting a starting pitcher who's going to be
number two in, line because nobody's gonna be The a's
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other Than Terry. School if you're gonna go on and
get a number, two that's. Great if you give me
a number, five that doesn't move my, needle not at. All,
okay it really. Doesn't if maybe he's a swing guy
who can go from starting a, bullpen guess What.
Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
Montero can do That flaherty's.
Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
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what you need more than anything. Else, Okay so it
matters to me when when you say, aggressive who's the
guy you're going to get if you're going to get
just an average guy and you're just making moves AND
i don't think he does this making moves to make.
Moves and, wow we got this guy and we got that.
Guy how effective are they going to? Be that's the
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got a trade for fill in the, blank like somebody
put in the. CHAT i don't think The diamondbacks are
going to want to get rid of Au Haano. Suarez why,
Not he's at the end of his. Contract they're two
games under five, hundred they're the second to last place
in The. Division they're not going to make the. Playoffs
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Fit what would you give up for? Him oh and
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You so those are bad optics as. Well, anyway my point.
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Is easy to talk. About, yeah you know, WHAT i
would make a. Trade the question is what would you
surrender for the. Trade that's the thing.
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That we've got to look, at, like is it how you?
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Lee oh, man he's been really good At, toledo AND
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Hold it in, let it sneeze.
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I got a shot today because it feels much better,
thank you. But I gotta get shots for sneezing out
At forty two? What is the future home, te fass.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's gonna get worse. Tell you what you got to swim.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
I'm in the gym.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I'll hear you so am I.
Speaker 9 (03:38):
But stuff just happens, bro. You have to look at
the positives every day, like I got out of bed today, okay,
and I'm talking you fine, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's my positive.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
You know what God is good.
Speaker 9 (03:50):
I know I'm gonna go home, honey bun, and I'm
gonna be on the on the by the couch. He
lays on the couch and I lay down, sit down
and runner and she'll rub my shoulders. And then she said, honey,
can you go get me some my shoes. It's gonna
take me an hour to get up and get her shoes.
But I know that's gonna happen. I've already had my
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positive for the day and this YouTube, gentleman.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But well, you got to shoot for a higher bar.
At age forty two, built like a fire hydrant. You
wouldn't have expected that.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And he still got a six pack.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, I drink a six pack. He has a
six pack.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You wouldn't think that he would be pulling some type
of muscle on his back after sneezing.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
But the good news is it goes to the audience
as well as it has nothing to do with being
an athlete or not. You can go see doctor Pierce
and he will get you right. His staff is top tier.
Shout the tear and regime. He got me together, man.
He told me that basically I had a little bit
of a spasm between my L four and L five,
So there's nothing crazy. Everything else looked good, but it's
a little bit of a spasm. Gave me some treatment,
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gave me.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
The secret sauce that he always talks about. Finally got
some of that.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Finally got I'm of that juice and that should be
good about it tomorrow because it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Let me defend from this stamping finally one and I'll
do it very ay. You still know how to get
to the studio without GPS, right, so you haven't lost
your mind yet.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You can still walk NFL.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
It was a little gimpy with this this throwing the
back out with the sneeze because I was I was
inverted and my pelvic was lower on this, higher on this,
so it was like cuck cuckoo, and I'm waiting for.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I like that. That's that's a Pinocchio commercial.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Disney Loony Tiln Somewhere in my mind, that's where I
got that sound.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
But little gimpy. But tomorrow it should be a little
bit better.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
To Hey, Terry brings up something pretty interesting. I'd love
to know from the young folks in this room, and
that's really cool. Ad no offense. Do you guys need
your GPS for everything? But if I said to you, hey,
it's at the corner of the quinder and McNichols or whatever,
could you find it? Or do you need your GPS?
Do you need your your phone for that?
Speaker 8 (06:04):
I'd tell exactly where.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Nicholas, Well, I know that, but you're not the young guy.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Because my kids, when I give them roads, when I
give them coordinates, it doesn't work, really, it doesn't. Hey,
it's on thirteen in Orchard. Okay, where do you mean they're.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
So used to the phone, so used to Google apps.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
Or of course on thirteen there you go right there.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, it's it's not a great one, but it's worth it.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
It gets a job done.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I used to play there is a kid all the time,
and it's it's it's a it's a little bit better
than no dog track.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
But I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, But if I say that to kids, they really
don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Do you do you need it kool aid? Or can
you find those streets?
Speaker 10 (06:49):
To be honest, I can find those streets, man. I
was one of those kids who grew up with the map,
you know what I mean. I was one of the
last though, one of those last.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
What do you mean the map? The trip tick that
you get from Terry Knows.
Speaker 10 (07:01):
They used to have books you have to unfold and
it's like this big right and you're figuring out where
to get in all that. And I got so tired
of like jumping in a car and hear my dad say, yeah,
we're gonna have east And for a long.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Time I didn't know what that meant.
Speaker 10 (07:14):
But as I got older, I was like, you know what,
I didn't grow up with cell phones like that. So
when I drove at first, it was printing off the
map quest stuff and one day got me and then
I figured it out.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Man, No, no, no. When we got lost, you know
what we used to do. Go to the gas station.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
That was huge.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
That was huge.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
I did.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And when we went on a trip, we'd go to
Triple A and they'd give you what looked like a
reporter's notebook, right with a highlighted version of where you
gotta go. I gotta get to Ricky's house in South Alabama.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Boom, here we go.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
This is where you're gonna go, and they take you
the entire way. I used to look at those people
and think, my god, they've been all around the world, right,
how did they how do they know how to get
to Ricky's house in South Alabama?
Speaker 9 (07:57):
And you always said this, I'm not lost. Your wife said, honey,
we don't know where we are. You better stop at
the gas station. Well we would fight it, so I'm
not going to the gas station.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
But that's because you're no clue. That's what guys do.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Though, guys will it will take like you'll drive to
the end of the flipp and Earth before you'll admit
you're lost.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Am I wrong about that? Here's at least it will
for me.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm not lost. I know exactly where I'm going, You're
going the wrong way. How do you know where I'm going?
It's not John Candy film. I'm just talking about this.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
This is a perfect transition. T Foster is sitting in
that ship for a reason. Are the Tigers lost? Had
the Tigers went.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Out of gas?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah? They looks looks like it.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Man.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
You know, I know in baseball you're gonna lose six
or seven games in a row.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
But the way they're playing is pathetic.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
And yesterday's game is the worst game I've seen the
Tigers play in decades ever, said chef was calling plays.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, it's impossible. First of all, Terry Foster has been
around this town for a long time. You've seen a
lot of baseball, so have I. Twenty nineteen they won
forty seven games. Two thousand and three, they won forty
three games. Don't tell me that yesterday's game is the
worst game you've seen.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Were bad? That's me. Yeah, saw in the home plate
and missed the plate.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I don't know. I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'm not gonna I'm not trying to defend that it
was a good game by any stretch.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
It made me nauseous.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I don't First of all, I don't understand why you
slide in head first at home plate anyway. It's it's stupid,
it's ridiculous. It's a look at me moment, that's all
it is. Think about it for a minute. All the
people in sports, it's about protecting the athletes. I get
pissed off at Roger Goodell. You want to play eighteen games.
You don't care about the athletes. It's about protection baseball.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Let's make the.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Bases bigger, okay, because it's got to have them bigger
so there's no injuries. Pull that picture after eighty five pitches.
It's but you're gonna allow a guy go head first
into an armored man. That's what you're doing. So what
jam your arm jam your wrist?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Why?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And it's doesn't it's not faster, there's there's no decisive
reason for doing it other than the helmet comes flying off.
I get up here, I am. I want to cover
up sports illustrated.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
All right, all right, fellas, put on your thinking cat
and think deeply about this one. The game we saw
yesterday and we just said, okay, you know what, they
have mental lapses and blah blah blah. If Alan Trammell
was the manager of the Tigers, you know what be'
saying tram has lost the locker room. They're not listening
to him. They don't care what he says. He's lost
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the locker room.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Is the manager, you'd say, get rid of him.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
You're right, right, yeah, you're talking about a game like
yesterday transpire, right, Yeah. But the difference is neither one
of those managers were nine games up on the rest
of the AL, well, not the rest of the AL,
but nine games.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
Up in their division and then second in the AL. Yeah,
but neither one of those things. You said, what this.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Is a two week thing. We I'm just saying with the.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Public disagreement, trouble. But I'm saying, neither one of those
two marriagers you name it, came.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And by the way, not that this matters, but they
still have the most wins in baseball.
Speaker 8 (11:09):
They do.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They have the most wins in the American League, and
they're tied with the Cubs and Brewers going into today
for the most wins in baseball. I'm not saying to
gloss over it or look past it by any stretch.
I think mental mistakes are worse than physical mistakes.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
I guess what, let's flip that.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
In the last ten game days, they have the most
losses in baseball.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
So something's going on. This is more than just the going.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
Through something that is definitely going on. Look good.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
The La Dodgers lost not was eight games, and you know,
and they just got out of.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
That eleven of fourteen they after losing to the Twins
last night. Even though Tani's homeward in four straight, they
have lost eleven of their last fourteen.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
How many how many times have the Yankees done it?
They didn't last year.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
If they lost six in a row twice this year, but.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
They lost seven in a row.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
But the difference is for the Tigers in terms of
me where I have a little bit of worry right now.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
Yet still first place. Yes, still believe.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
In them, but them as because that that's coaching as
well as players. Like Sheep is saying, also, it's little things.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Excuse me.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Pitching has been the best thing for the Tigers in
this new brand. It's all the bullpen. That's what it's
been called the last two years. It's the bullpen. It's
Terrek School, is Jack flarerity it's the things. Last year
we can get the strikeofs, but we can't get runs.
This year, the dugout, I mean, the bullpen is struggling.
Like everybody's getting hits. Casey Myz, Jack Flaerity, guys are
going yard and guys are getting the ball far, guys
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getting to the warning track all the time.
Speaker 8 (12:36):
Like the thing that they did best is now the
thing that I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Like, Well, pitching hasn't been very good either. I mean
people will look at school and the and the win.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
The other day.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
He got a no decision in the two to one final,
but before the All Star break he was he threw
that bad.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
He got ed and he got rocked in the count.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean it does because if you know, because
if you were playing those individuals as a team like
head up, it didn't matter how good that player was.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
You will say Schools on the mind got to do
his thing.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I don't know. If he got rocked per se, he
gave up the double, that was a problem. I get that.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But I'm talking about even before. The issue I'm having
right now is I mean they're starting pitching. They have
two starting pitcher wins in the month of July. They
have not won since since Tampa when Casey Mice beat Tampa.
That no, Casey Mice beat Cleveland, won nothing? And who
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beat Tampa? Oh Montero, cater Montero beat Tampa in a
five to one game.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
That's Those are the two that's tough starting.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Pitching wins for this team in the month, and we
know that the bullpen is weak. I think the thing
that has carried them more than anything to sixty wins
is their power. I think that's been consistent. I think
it's been much needed, and they have it. Okay, look
at their ops. It's much better than it was a
year ago. Individuals and so on and so forth. But
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now it's a collective calamity. That is the biggest problem
I think.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, speaking of ops, is the guy that I champion
at the beginning of the season at El Mago. You know,
I was I was the one to say he's gonna
back three hundred.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
I thought it was crazy.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
It looked like it for a second, he's back to
old hobby bias. I saw him swing at the pitch,
I said, I recognize that guy from twenty twenty two.
I recognize that guy from twenty twenty three, Mike, I
love Hobby.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
I'm still supporting Hobby. Oh you my guy.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Javier Bass Javir Bas is playing like Hobby Baya's right now.
Like I saw him swing at the pitch. I'm surprised
his hip still works.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
When you when you.
Speaker 9 (14:31):
Swing like you're trying to hit a phantom battery in
the other batter's box, You're you're reverting back to.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Your old ways. It's something wrong there.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, I think he's He's been that most of the season, though.
I mean, let's let's not get he's The difference this
year is that he's hitting fastballs in the zone. Compared
to last year. He's still swinging and missing at sliders. Yeah, okay,
that's kryptonite. Why you would throw him anything, but I
don't know. But that is that that has been primarily
the case, top of your bias.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
So it's not that he's totally different.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's just that he's not swinging and missing at fastballs
as much as he used to.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Question for either one of you guys to jump into
going into the season, even when the Tigers were up
and playing good, every still leary because it's the Tigers.
You know what, I'm saying when you look at the roster,
yes you got emerging Riley Green, yes you have trek School.
But after that, it's like you're hoping that these other
players have shown carry carpenters and so on, that they
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show up. That's where people didn't trust this team. That's
when you look at the Phillies. That's when you look
at the Braves or the Dodgers or the Yankees. They
can have these these these these slumps, or they can
have these skids as they're called, because you know they
still have the roster, they still have the players are
proven and trust Do you trust the young players on
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this team? We keep going back to last year, which
you don't show and rightfully so do we trust the
young players on this team because of the playoffs that
they had last year?
Speaker 8 (15:59):
Or is it a new year tary? And this is
a serious situation.
Speaker 9 (16:02):
I would say this when you looked at one hundred
and sixty two games, they won like a hundred of them,
so you know that this is we thought last year.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
See, we don't believe in the title, but I am.
We don't believe in this team period. Who's the superstar?
Speaker 9 (16:21):
There's no superstar anyway, he said, what, gee, they had
six All Stars. Well remember the Pistons in two thousand
and four, they had four uh people on the h
in the All Star Game. But they we still said,
there was no superstars on this team.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
So you don't look at you don't see any They.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Were stars after they were stars after after two thousand
and four when, but.
Speaker 9 (16:45):
At the time we did not view them as superstars.
They're correct good team. Uh, it was a team. They
they they played together, you know, all this Yeoman stuff.
But we didn't view Chauncey Phillips as an All Star,
even though he is a Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
We didn't.
Speaker 9 (17:03):
They weren't gonna win that championship unless they traded for
Rashid Wallace, you remember all that stuff. So we didn't
totally in this team. Even when the Tigers were just
rolling this year, winning all these series, winning sixty two
percent or sixty one percent of games, we still didn't.
Well I'm saying the public still didn't believe. So, yes
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they look good, Yes they're getting clutches, but wait until
it happens is coming. People just didn't believe. It is
never believed in this scene.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Pissons though in two thousand and two.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I hadn't gotten that sense.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
The Pistons got the Eastern Conference Final, and you're like, shoot,
they could beat the Nets. They should have beat the
I don't think you maybe believed them to beat the Lakers,
but I think going into that O four season, you
believe that they could get to the dance. Just they
couldn't beat the Lakers. That was the sentiment. I believe
that was the sent le.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Let me tell you a story, Okay, Terry time, story
to very time.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Can we put you on hold for that?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Can they do that?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let me take a break real quick. When we come back,
we're gonna light a flyer log.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
All right, we're all gonna curl up.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Everyone's gonna grab a marshmallow. We're gonna put it over
the fire, and we're gonna hear a story from Terry Foster.
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Man.
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He almost fell asleep.
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Speaker 6 (20:54):
I'm gonna argue this. I'm gonna argue this.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
If you're in a bad mood, if you're feeling down,
if you're set ad, you're down.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Trodden is a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
When Ricky opens the mic, it's pretty tough to stay down.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
He's a pretty positive. There's a lot of radio guys
who are negative. Work with at Ricky.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Ricky made fun of me. I don't tolerate that. That's okay,
the hell out of here, That's okay.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Ricky's thick skin.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
He doesn't mind being made fun of, and he can
make he whatever he dishes out he can take.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
He ain't gonna be that that thick skin when I
get his ass fired.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I didn't know you had that kind of power route here, man.
I would have called you a long time ago. All right,
So let's pick it back off. What we were just
talking about the Tigers are getting punked again. They're down,
They're down in Pittsburgh. The fact that this team might
be swept by the Pirates, who have the second fewest
wins in the National League next to the Colorado Rockies,
is not sitting well with people. I understand that I
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don't know where the panic meter is, but Terry and
and Braylan were having a pretty good conversation just before
the break about how dire it could be because they
don't have a quote unquote superstars and everyday player.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (22:05):
I know we want to be able to get that
storytime with t Faalse that we tease before the break,
but I have to get the chat involved here too,
because you talked about that panic, and they're all over
the place, you know, in Lions World. Obviously, I'm seeing
a bunch of Anzo stuff, but as relates to this
Tiger stuff, it's all over the place. You have people
like Harvey Wallbanger who says last year's Tigers went eight
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and fourteen right after the All Star.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Break, and we know how they did in August and September,
so that's not a panic.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
He doesn't think it's a panic, but everybody else in
this chat, they're feeling pretty bad right now, man, And
as he was like, Yo, the Tigers are losing bad
right now, and another picture another day, and just kind
of just perusing through the chats, I would say the
majority of people are feeling a little bit panicked right now.
And as relates to your Hovey bayas take crazy clown
(22:53):
believes that he's trying to do too much right now,
and that's real.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
You know, sometimes like that trends to any sport. You
know myself in football, I give you an example. In
two thousand and eight, started season after sitting out for
three weeks with injury to my leg. Started the season,
I just was out of rhythm. I dropped a couple
of passes. So now I'm just trying all new ways,
all new gloves, you know, over this three game stretch
and just.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Doing the things.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
I'm doing way too much as opposed to focus on
what Eric Campbell taught me when I was missing one, two, three,
Catch the ball, You tuck the ball and then you
find work. I'm trying to catch the ball before I catch.
You do all this stuff, and when you're on a
bad team, you're trying to do things to help the
team out. Hobby knows his team is struggling, so how
he's trying to make the players. He's trying to hit
the ball, and sometimes it's just too much. Sometimes you
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got to go back to the basics. The basics got
you there. The basics do work.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
So that's a that's a.
Speaker 9 (23:47):
Great him trying to hit the five run home run. Yeah, yeah,
it's just impossible to do.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Baseball is a one sport where like one play, one swing,
it changes the narrative, Like you can be having a
bad game, you can be having a bad week.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
You can be having a bad You.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Hit the bomb to win the game in the ninth inning,
or you hit the bomb to start the run. That
beats whoever you need to beat. Now you can momentumus
from Bear.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
All you need is one hit. Yeah, he can't have
one catching in the NFL, and it changed the game.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And he's got a violent swing anyway, so that only
accentuates it.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
What was this story time with Terry here?
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Okay, two thousand and four, prior to the Lakers Pistons
series in the NBA Finals, I was convinced the Lakers
are going to kill the Pistons.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I thought they were the better team.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
The Pistons were just working hard and lucky to get
to the NBA Finals. But the Trait News sent me
out to La a couple of days early to do
a story on the Lakers, and after talking to Kobe Bryant,
Phil Jackson, Shack, I left that there's no way the
Lakers could beat the Pistons because Kobe and I'm not
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saying I hang out with Kobe all the time, but
he was saying stuff like, you know, when we beat.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I mean, I mean, you know, I didn't say that.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
He was saying when they beat the Pistons, and blah
blah blah. He seemed unfocused and they seem like they
already had that thing.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
He had a lot going on, if you remember, he
had a lot going on.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
He was he was he was in the wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong,
wrong spaces.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I say that that is true. I didn't know that
at the time.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
But he was unfocused, you know, and Phil Jackson was
talking mess and I just saw a team that wasn't together.
And then, you know, I had been dealing with the
Pistons most of that year. I said, you know, one thing,
you're not gonna be able to unravel this team.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
The Lakers go up to a two o lead.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Or something, the Pistons aren't gonna break And I just
thought the Lakers were just we already got this one,
and when you gonna win, thinking you got something one
against a team that's that wants to break down the
walls and stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
That we're not gonna win.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I think there's a I think there's a it's
a fine line in athletics between confident in cockiness. Maybe
we saw the Lakers in two thousand and four as
a little copy kaky.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
You know if Kobe Bryant saying after we beat them,
it's not.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Like that's he's the first of the last athletes to
ever say that and ates.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Before a game.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
They never say that, they do.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Jim Harwall said it before.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Fifteen years ago. Congratulations, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You didn't You didn't give me a time frame, you said.
Nobody says it. Joe Joe Namath said it too.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Okay, there's mister Jerman Kobe, mister Jal.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Kobe also said there's a lot of everyone quotes what
does everyone quote from Kobe at the press conference up
too games?
Speaker 8 (26:39):
John's not dumb.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
That's also so to that point, it gets like to
what t Foss is saying a little bit on the
over cocky set, because maybe say about Kobe starts saying.
Speaker 9 (26:49):
What do you say about Prince who is playing great him?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I'm just measuring them up.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Okay, So so relate that to what the Tigers are
going through.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
There's no relevance here.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Okay. I thought we were. I thought we were connecting
the Pistons.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
Now you brought up the Pistons and I wanted to
fill in the blank.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I got you from two thousand and four. I see
what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think with the Pistons right
now or the Tigers right now, I should say I
understand why people jumping off the ship might be a
little much. I understand the level of concern, especially when
you're losing to teams you feel you're better than, which
should give you credit to the team that you're rooting for.
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The Tigers you consider better than everybody, right, so you
expect them to win every series, and I get it.
Being swept by Pittsburgh is humbling. If they indeed lose today,
I would argue losing to Paul's skins. You know there's
there's there's no shame in that. I don't like losing.
I don't know why anybody would, but baseball, you're bound
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to do that. The Dodgers won the World Championship last year,
won ninety eight games.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Detroit's got thirty eight more ws in them this year?
Are you worried that they're gonna lose the division? Are
you worried that they're not gonna make the playoffs? Who
are you worried about? It doesn't mean we shouldn't be
concerned right now, That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
It was made of seven games in a week.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, that's a Brewers though. Who the hell's making up
seven games in Detroit. It's not Cleveland, it's not Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
They're lucky.
Speaker 9 (28:28):
The division is a five hundred division. Yeah, so the
Tigers will have to fall to five hundred. Yeah, to
have these slouches close to them.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
This is but this is healthy conversation because I'll relate it.
I'll connect it for you good. I'll connect this to
the Lions where the Tigers are right now. Don't panic,
This is just cause for concern. Panigan calls for concerned.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
The two things. I'm not panicking, but this has caused
for concern.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
When I'm seeing how you know, Casey Myes and Jack
Flair are getting hit. When I'm seeing the mistakes made
by speak Tourglesen and Perez at the play. When you
see those, it's just like whoa the ison what they
typically do. Because the guy in which we put all
the faith in at the end of the day is
aj Hinch and what he's done and how he's got
these players acting, and what he's achieved in his career.
So you're fine, but it's calls for concern if the tie,
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If the Lions come out the gate and they're three
and three, don't panic. Do not panic. I'm not saying that.
Wells calls for concern. They play a tough schedule, they
play some great teams, they got to go on the road,
they got to see some things. They have some things
to figure out from last year to this year. Players
players getting hurt right now. So it's not about panic.
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It's just a conversation of calls for concern. If the
Lions are three and three after six, it will be
calls for concern.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
It would not be a panic.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Bro I don't know where you've been.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
The Lions are zero and zero and there's a lot
of fans already panicking.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Well, yeah, because a lot has happened on that's the Lion.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
This is they've want some talent one the injuries are
concerning all that stuff. I get that, and we'll dive
more into in the Lions in a little bit. As
far as the Tigers are concer I think it's how
they lost more than just losing. When there is a
lackluster effort when you drop a ball, usually when he
catches Spencer Turkles, and then you lolly gag after it,
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allowing O'Neil Cruz give him credit for hustling his ass
off to score all the way around the bags from
second base, and you basically allow that to happen. That's
concerning what he said afterwards, apologetic when he got to
the dugout, apologetic to his teammates in the clubhouse. I
don't know how much that factors, but that will stick
with people for a long time. I don't care how
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many doubles he hits, how many home runs he hits,
how many balls he scoops out of the dirt to
save Howvey or bias from a throwing error.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
People are going to remember that.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Unfortunately, if that's just the way the life is, we
remember the negatives. I would ask you this when I
say Joe Dumars as general manager. Let's let's bring it
back to the Pistons. When I say general manager of
the Detroit Pistons, Joe Dumars, what do you think of
Josh Smith?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Docro milicet.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
But it's all negative?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You don't shouldn't you not be thinking World Championship six
straight Eastern Conference run? I'm talking about it's a GM
sixth straight and Eastern Conference. How come we're not thinking that?
We immediately go to the negative? Why is that? When
I say Alavila, what do you.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Think, right?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I don't have any losing records?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, but you don't think that he drafted Terrek School,
but he drafted Riley Greeney, drafted Spencer Tokos, and he
traded for res He. Most of this team is from him,
And I'm not saying he deserves all the credit. I'm
just saying this is the mindset. We think the negative
first and foremost.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
The negative will always outweigh the positive unless you're positive
as Tom Brady unless you're positive, is a certain thing
that you can't dispute. You made a great point. You're
talking about the players. Now, this is a bigger type
of game, this is a bigger stage.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
But it's the same thing.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
When you think of Cam Newton, you think of an
individual that did not want it, like you don't think
about because then that was right there exactly. Yeah, but
that's why you made that point. That's the first thing
I thought of it. You don't think about what he
did at all. What's in my opinion's best quarterback? Because
I saw yeah Or won the MVP of one, MVP
of the league fifteen and one almost went undefeated.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
I don't think about that. I think about the crazy
hats with his braids coming out of them.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
That part too, which is negative you don't like to have.
But yeah, you watched tumble comes up too.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah, that fumble. Think about it for a minute.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
But you know, let's go to the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Lions won fifteen games, right, and a lot of those
fifteen games they blue teams out.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, what's the one game we think about Commanders? Commanders?
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yeah, and Buffalo because Buffalo too.
Speaker 9 (32:40):
Right, because of that Commander's Game. They can't come back
this year. They're gonna, you know, win seven or eight
games and they'll be lucky to make the playoffs. Blah
blah blahcause we saw it against the Commanders.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Here's what you don't hear.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
What a comeback against Houston.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
No, no, no, who on that defense that played in the
Commander's Game is going to be back art in this year?
Speaker 8 (33:00):
Jack Campbell.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
One dude.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Who's on the defense?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Defense? If dudes who were he's racking at Low's Burger King.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
And O'Connor.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
You got like O'Connor mahogan. That Mahogan, he's the opposite ball.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Connor still on this team. He played for Tampa and
he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
He's backup.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
But everybody's got backups. Wine, you need a ton of
backup you down.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
I don't want to forget it. That Buffalo game.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
That was the game where I was like, I don't
know if this seemed to do it like last year.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
The Buffalo the red flag Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Was the red flag game because yeah, I know what
the score looked like at the end, but Buffalo did
with they did what they wanted to.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Couldn't stop, especially the golden boy. As you said yesterday, Josh.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
I never forget him jumping in the end I got
so I was like I was in New York. I
was so mad because I was in New York watching
that a Lion's bar. Very first time I've ever gone
in a destination and I'm going to a bar to
watch the Detroit Lions team idn't even played for it,
wearing Lions gear. I go into this Detroit bar, I'm excited.
I'm talking to the people's hell of Jets fans in there,
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and Lions are getting cooked cooked said Jersey under it.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Next time, I just took I took it off and
had this shirt on.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Well that's a that's a really good looking shirt. Why
does why did it bother you that Josh Allen did that.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
That that when he the finger roll in the end zone?
Why would Why wouldn't it bother me that?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I hate That's what.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
The NFL has becoming. I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
That's what the NFL has becoming. What about the staged
rolling boat.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
I mean, as a Lions fan, I didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
As a Lions fan, It's okay when the Lions do it.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Standing on the head the whole night.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with it, per se.
The only thing where I agree with you is that's
not what he typically does. Josh Allen isn't the guy
doing the celebrating like that. So when he did it
to the Lions, it kind of was like, I'm gonna
do this because this is supposed to be the Have.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
You ever gone out of character when you're on the
football field?
Speaker 7 (35:07):
Calibrate like, that's who my character is. My character is
getting in zone. You know what I'm saying. I'm feeling it.
I got a celebration twenty nine, ten eleven. I was
duggying all over these dvs.
Speaker 9 (35:16):
How would y'all feel if Justin Jefferson stood on his
head after beating the Lions?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
I would be very.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Much said, Sa Brown did it great? Let's make a
cake out of or how about that? How about in
the net?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
How about in the Netflix series Quarterback when Jared Goff
is talking to aman Ross Saint Brown, who's talking about
their celebration after they get a touchdown. When we get
it in here, we're gonna score a touchdown, this is
gonna be the celebration and Jared Goff is seen saying,
I can't even worry about that. How is that much
different than Kobe Bryant saying what he said to you.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
Because he's about to go into a series, uh, you know,
the finals, and he doesn't even know who he's playing.
He doesn't understand the the ramifications of his words.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
The other thing is.
Speaker 9 (36:13):
And she mister journalists, No, No, I want to ask you.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I want to ask you this question.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
Whenever you ask a player who's going into a series
and the other series hasn't been decided, who would you
rather play? The Browns or the Jets? What answered you?
Always does?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Right?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Mister writer?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
But you asking the question?
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Who's won a lot of awards for his writing purposes?
Asked me? Answer me this?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
How many times do you roll your eyes and say
I want to hear a real answer.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
No, here's what I say all the time.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Hey, dumb asked, why did you even ask that question?
You know what they're gonna say. That's what I say.
I'm mad at the person who asked the ask the question.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
You're mad at the person because you think it's a
waste of space.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Waste of time.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
I got business to take care of, and you little
pretty little boys and girls look at me asking stupid
questions like who would you rather play the jets of
the rounds? Well, damn, we've heard that question for one
hundred years.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Can get the same answer you and twenty five hundred
press conferences. Somebody is going to ask a bad question,
and they do it because they want to be heard. Yes,
person in the back, Hi, I'm Detroit kol aid. I
just wanted to ask you, how does it feel to
be in the finals? It feels like crap? Next, you know,
I mean someone's gonna ask the question.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
How does it feel it will be?
Speaker 9 (37:47):
I don't mind bad questions because I understand sometimes the
writer or the TV person is trying to get a
certain response. I have a problem with asking the same
dumb question over and over and over again.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Give me a break.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Is this a dumb question? Marcus Davenport? Who a lot
is expected of? Or a lot of maybe not even
expected a lot of writing on because I don't know
what the expectations is at this point, but I know
a lot is riding on. I think a reporter asked
him a question. Reporter also joined the interview in games.
I can't remember what asked, but He's basically asking about
playing on the other side of eight and this year.
Speaker 8 (38:27):
What was he going to provide?
Speaker 7 (38:28):
And this he ready kind of a layup type question,
if you will, And his response was, don't ask me that.
Don't worry about me, you know, don't worry about what
I'm gonna do like that kind of was I'll find
the exact one and bring it in.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Don't look at me. That's what it was.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
That was, That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
You know what, brilliant question. Brilliant in my opinion question.
This is coming from a former athlete. I'm always side
with the athletes. I can see through the minutia now
and I do a better job.
Speaker 8 (38:59):
But I'm all, what south athlete is?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
What it is?
Speaker 7 (39:01):
I thought it was an easy question. I thought it
was a great question. I thought it was a layup
for him to say, you know what, I'm excited to
get back. You know, it's gonna be a fun season.
I'm excited to help out. He could have said any
generic answer, and he chose to go a route that
now has me questioning the guy that I already had
questions about.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
It is correct?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Do you guys get help with this? Not that you
need help with answering questions. But do you is there
any prep whatsoever from anybody to try and help you
navigate through some of these Terry fosterss difficult water, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
When I was in Cleveland, they had it, but it
wasn't necessarily dialed in and as a twenty two, twenty
three year old. And I'm not trying to go to
media training like I went to Michigan. I did four years.
I know the media. I'm fine. When you have Mary
Kay Cabot and individuals like that that can throw you
some curve balls, you tend to put your foot in
your mouth, you know what I'm saying. So we had it,
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I didn't use it, got caught in it, learn my
lesson until years later.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
But I need to hear chef.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
You remember the young man named indamakan Su who recently
tired on the I forget his name, the offensive lineman's arm.
The Lions came up with an apology for him. They
wrote it out, they gave it to him before he
hit the media. He had time to read it, look
it over and say.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Okay, you know what he did, tore it up. I'm good.
Speaker 9 (40:28):
Then he went out there and said, uh, he.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Was in my way. I didn't try to stop his arm.
He was in the way.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
Come on, we we got eyes and we got brains.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
We know he stumped that man.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
We don't know what he said to him.
Speaker 8 (40:46):
We don't know what he said his mama.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Look.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I appreciated in Dominicansou's effort all the years you and
I were training camp all the time. I love that
he showed up every single day. He as an ass
kicker every day. You could rely on him. Okay, doesn't
mean you got to like me. Okay, I get it.
People are pulling it brailin everywhere. I see it all
the time, and I see it with other athletes. He's
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got plenty of friends. He doesn't necessarily need people in
the media, but there's oftentimes a mutual respect and you know,
covering in Dominicansu every single year, every single practice that
he was here, and just about every game he played
home and away. I remember asking a question one time
and he said, well, sir, blah blah blah blah gave
me this. And I followed him into the locker room
and I said, let's just get something straight here.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
You know, me, I know you.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I'm not asking to come over for Christmas Eve dinner.
I'm just saying, you know me, I know you to
sit there and tell me what you just said, like
some generic bull crap is flat out bull crap, okay,
and I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
May listen to you shit, dang. I know that.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Making friends in the media is not siding with the enemy,
and I didn't learn that until I left Cleveland. When
I got to New York, I was all hands on
deck in all spaces, like my for lack of a
better court, my miscummings as an organization, as our team up.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
I learned from that.
Speaker 7 (42:08):
So when I got to New York, I made friends
with all the media people. I would give them interviews.
I wouldn't go to the house for like you said,
New Year's Eve dinner. But I was cordial enough. I
found a couple people that I liked, did interviews with
them all the time. I was always available. I still
have love respect in New York. Like when I go
to New York, like, it's oh, Brakland, whatever he needs,
whatever he wants, can't do my show, Sure, I'll do
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your show.
Speaker 8 (42:30):
What's going on? It's been a while basking sure, but
that helped.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
That helped my whole transition from Cleveland. Transition is a
funny word, help my whole transition from Cleveland. In the
space that oh, we're gonna be this guy's friend because
he's taking us serious's part of that. You ain't got
to go out and hang with them and you're not
dropping dirt on teammates. Say yeah, let me give a
little tibbit on what Mark Sanchez did. To be friends.
Isn't to be a quaint citizen to be friends. It's
to be smart so that when you talk to them,
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what you talk to them about, how you wanted to
get out, it gets up because if you don't make friends.
Speaker 8 (43:02):
They heard you, they know what you said.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
They recorded it, and because they don't like you, they
can clip it a certain way.
Speaker 9 (43:08):
Well, some are terry, the younger ones are, and then
there's these old curmudgeons.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
But for the most part, we're not to get you.
Speaker 13 (43:16):
Watch that we want the what word is that?
Speaker 4 (43:20):
We want the truth?
Speaker 8 (43:21):
That's who you spelled curmudgeons.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Did you guys notice Bradley kind of slipping Mark Sanchez there?
But I don't know if you guys caught that I did.
I listened, man, I'm you know, not like Mark Sanchez doesn't.
It just goes keeps going right through it.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
One thing I loved about New York is like they
didn't care about the gossip unless you're talking about what
happened with Brett Faire, which is before me and Mark
Sanchez because he was dating Eva Longoria at the time.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
So they cared.
Speaker 6 (43:50):
About thank you, you're a little late on that.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
There it is.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
They didn't care about they play football. That's what I
appreciated about getting to New York was the stories were
about the locker room to field coaching. What the hell
is going on with the team Cleveland when you're used
to losing like we were at that time. Let's find
things outside football, because yeah, everybody knows the story Brown suck.
You know, this happened, This happened, This happened. What can
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we engage in that will attract you know, readers because
it read.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
But that's what it's about now, right.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I mean, I don't know if that's where Terry was going,
but it's about cliques and we're gonna do everything we
can to right.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
I can only speak for you. I never wrote for CLIs.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
I know you didn't.
Speaker 9 (44:30):
I didn't because I was looking for the truth. I
wanted to present my truth. I wanted to hear truth
from the athletes. I wanted to tell good stories. It
was never for clicks.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Yeah, you had good relationships I did.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
I tell you.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Mark cguire remember the young young people. You remember him.
Here's here's how I got a scoop from him. I
got I gotta.
Speaker 9 (44:56):
I got a big scoop for him because of Jim
shoes and I'm a fool.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
One time the reporters were interviewing Mark.
Speaker 9 (45:04):
Cguire and then he looked at all the reporters and said,
why y'all wear gym shoes? Somebody said anything and ahaha,
and I said, you know why we wear gym shoes
because your ass has escape routes where you can duck us.
You have little doors. And so we got to chase
after you if we need a story. And so he went, oh, man,
there's always one in every crowd. So we laughed at
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off and stuff and he's and then when everybody left,
he said, hey, man, I got something for you.
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I said what he said, I might.
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Be able to play for the Mexican Olympic basketball team.
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I'm like, I'm like, turn on.
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That tape recorder and say speak my brother speak. So
I had a big story. Markcguire is gonna his grandfather
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it's Mark Agide. And then he said that he's contemplating
he might play. And then I interviewed the Mexican.
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Well that's interesting. Is it's interesting?
Speaker 4 (46:00):
How that is?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
So I had a I had not similar, but I
had an encounter with Charles Barklay at the Palace.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
We're all around.
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Interviewing Charles Barkley before a sixers or I think it
might have been with the Suns, but either way against
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Room in in Detroit or at the Palace.
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So I guess this was this is your approach to
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So I have a million of them. But here's one
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Five.
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We was in here doing big things.
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So my car was parked.
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I go about my meal. I'm eating, I'm chilling. I
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He gave this.
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This dank go where's my car?
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your meals on me and I take you. I was like,
no meals, I'm fine, I could pay my own meals.
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And if he had to ask business, tell him to
come ask me. Heyb yo, we'll talk man. I would
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would have respected that.
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I would have said okay and left.
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I just that's what I was thinking.
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You said you're gonna be thinking bye, Oh.
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I just got to let you know that forty three
percent of the people their.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
Level of concern is now mad packs high.
Speaker 10 (56:35):
Forty percent of our little concern only seventeen percent of
the people are stoked and not scared for the Detroit
Tigers right now.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Brian, Shit, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Six' one was the. Final Today pittsburgh beats, them they Sweep.
Detroit detroit has now lost nine of. Ten they have
lost eighteen of their last thirty. Two they're under five
hundred for the. Month the only TEAM i believe in
baseball or have the fewest wins in baseball over the
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last month or so small. SAMPLES a series a week
is one. Thing the month long series or the month
long indications and trends are. Concerning i'm not gonna try
to convince people that they shouldn't be. Concerned i'm concerned.
Too i'm wondering if this is who they are or
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if this.
Speaker 6 (57:30):
Is just a bump in the. Road that's What i'm
trying to figure. Out what's the identity.
Speaker 7 (57:36):
Same it's tricky because you know this happens' one hundred
and six two games in. Baseball you know you're gonna
hit those, Skids you're gonna hit those, moments so you
have to get, up you have to. Rebound but if
we continuously see things like, yesterday just that, game let's
not even take this series as a, whole just this
particular game that we talked, about the play a first,
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place the play at, home just the way that the
are giving up hits like this becomes the.
Speaker 8 (58:03):
Norm whois what's laughing? At go?
Speaker 6 (58:07):
Ahead i'm laughing at the chat chat.
Speaker 7 (58:10):
Hilarious SOMETIMES i dive into that chat and it's like
you can't get.
Speaker 8 (58:14):
Back it's like a black.
Speaker 7 (58:15):
Hole their conversations are not even talking about what we're talking.
Speaker 8 (58:18):
About but it's so, engaging so.
Speaker 6 (58:19):
GOOD i.
Speaker 7 (58:21):
Believe The tigers are still the. Team, look they're still
they're at sixty. Wins you, know they're still at sixty.
Wins they're still. Ahead they still have everything else in.
Play they got twenty games coming. Up if they, don't
if they're not twelve at least and eight in those twenty,
games it's a. Problem you got The Blue, jays who
are rare hot coming in. Here that's a. Series, look
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take a. GAME i want them to win that. Series
the way they're playing right, now it doesn't look like
they may be able to do.
Speaker 8 (58:48):
That it's split it with. Them what is? It, one, two, three?
Four split the series with The Blue jays beat The.
Speaker 7 (58:52):
Backs take two from the fields and then you got
the Freaking twins And.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
Angels, yeah you know the split. THING I first of,
all it depends on who's. Pitching second of, all they're
under five hundred on the. Road toronto had an eleven
game home winning streak snapped last. Night they're a good baseball.
Team you don't lead The east if you're not a
good baseball. Team for, ME i don't you gotta win
series if you want to have success in?
Speaker 6 (59:19):
BASEBALL i look at. IT i know this is.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
BORING i look at a game to game, Literally So
i'm not sure about the splitting right. Now BUT i
think your long term, solution where you're saying next twenty
games go twelve and, EIGHT i still think we'd be
disappointed to twelve and.
Speaker 6 (59:32):
Eight i've always said. This the bar.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
Moves the expectations are higher now because of what they've.
Done that should be a good thing for. THEM i
believe they feel. That but the expectations are higher for
this team because of what they were able to accomplish
in the first ninety. Games all, right but the last
month should be concerning for. Us look at the offensive,
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production or the lack, thereof that is. Alarming look at
the problems with, pitching and before somebody tells, me, well
It's Toy. Melton today he was making his major league.
Debut all we heard about is the reason he was
brought up is because he was a tenth overall.
Speaker 6 (01:00:10):
Prospect and look at what he did At.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Erie he may have been a bit of a struggle
a year, ago but what he's done At erie has
warranted the call. Up and there's gonna be. Butterflies you
know that better than. Anybody but he failed today. Miserably
that doesn't MEAN i give up on. Him i'm just
saying that's a serious. Issue this team needed. Something they
needed the proverbial shot in the. Arm they didn't get
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it from their pitcher or from anybody else out there
who recognized the same. Situation this kid's gonna need some
early run. Support, butkus this kid's gonna need some help
from behind.
Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Him.
Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
Nothing that's my concern as much as anything.
Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
Else, COOL i bring it up to. You what does
this feel reminiscent? Of this feels reminiscent of before guitaring
is won on that skin last? SEASON i, mean excuse,
me before they got hot forty star, cooking before they
doubted all the, Naysayers, yes everybody down including. Us they
couldn't get. Hits they had pitching that was going well
and they couldn't get. Hits they couldn't support the pitching.
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Staff that's what it's starting to feel, like at least to.
Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
That it is starting to look like that a little.
Speaker 10 (01:01:14):
Bit but you, KNOW i do throw it back To
Harvey wallbangers shout out to one of the most epic
names about our chat, family who, said you, know right
after The All star break last, year they did start
eight and, fourteen they were still trying to figure out.
Things we were what they, Had torque And Parker, medals
who had taken some trips down To TRIPLE. A i
was down there For Parker medal's assignment and it was
getting all the little different tips and pointers From broder
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on what to look out, for and it was, like
bro it doesn't, matter he's hitting. Everything it looks like
his mind is. Right and then we know what Carry
carpertureman as well to This Detroit tigers. Team so getting
healthy last year and getting some of those players who
are kind of going through some slumps right over that
kind of first week or two After All star, break
we saw The tigers go through this now to this. Tune,
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no this is WHERE i believe just starting to get
some people who are getting to become a little bit
more concerned BECAUSE i thought that this chat was gonna be,
Won and like a lot of the narratives that you
hear among social, media and there's a lot of comments out,
there there's a whole lot more people who are more
concerned THAN i thought they would be with the.
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Team i'm still one of the best record wise in
all of.
Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Baseball, Yeah i'm not surprised by, it AND i don't
think they should should be.
Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
Under, concerned if there's such a.
Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Word they should be concerned because just because they've got
sixty wins doesn't mean they're playing the best.
Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
Baseball just because they were the first.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Team to forty wins and fifty wins and sixty wins
doesn't mean squat to people right, now they have a
right to be concerned because of the recent. Trends and
it's not a short sample, size it's not very small at.
ALL i don't you guys know. Me i'm not hyperbold at.
All but over the last, month they have not played good.
Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
Baseball, OKAY aj hints this is a statement from your.
Skipper we are a much better team and a cleaner
team than what we've. Shown we've been turning in some
struggles that we know we can. Fit the question is
do you believe they know that they can fix these.
STRUGGLES i do believe they know they can fix the.
Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Struggles does that mean they will fix the struggles not
necessarily fair?
Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Enough, yeah that's the. Problem.
Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Now i'm not gonna go so far as to say
what somebody said the, chat which is. Hilarious The Blue
jays are going to be piss out of this FOUR a.
TEAM i don't think it's it's not a eighteen, sixty
it's not.
Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
A four eight. Team but.
Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
When a team is playing out of, character and that's
what it's doing right. Now they are playing out of.
Character because that's WHY i always ask, people how long
do you need to identify what a team? Is football's
a little, different Right, FOOTBALL i think you'll probably get
that in the first quarter of the. Season, baseball if
you take the first quarter of the, season it's forty
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games or. So and we wanted to jump all over
this team like they're the best team in. Baseball and,
LOOK i said it Too i'm not blaming people in
the chat or anybody here in our. STUDIO i said
it too after forty. Games maybe we jumped the gun
a little. BIT i did precursor that by saying last,
year if you recall point zero two percent to reach
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the playoffs and they made a miraculous. Run who says
it can't go the other? Way why do we think
that it's always got to be through the positive lens of?
Things how come it can't be a?
Speaker 6 (01:04:19):
Negative do we really Think zach, McKinstry who's a two
thirty career, hitter is going to hit two eighty five all?
Year probably, not he's his.
Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Level you, know usually it.
Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
Does AND i hope it's not BECAUSE i Like zach.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
McKinstry But i'm just, saying do we Think Javier bias
was going to have the first half of the. Season
we were told his hip is healthy now and all
these other, things and yet we saw for three years
that it wasn't that. Guy so and all he's done
is get gotten.
Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
Older i'm gonna provide some, optimism and optimism is, this
would it be cool if this happens?
Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
Now we? Struggle now games left Big?
Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
League you find, yourself because all championship, teams whether you
win The World, series whether you Win Stanley, cup The larry,
O'Brien The, lombardy doesn't. Matter you're going to go through.
Something there will be a period that you go through
that you have to. Overcome and in those, moments you
learn about, Yourself you learn about the, team you learn
about the squad even deeper Than, yeah you know yourself
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a little. Bit you made the playoffs last, year you
beat The astros who them losing as well definitely.
Speaker 8 (01:05:27):
Helps but this is a different. Season this is.
Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
Different you now lead the al the whole season so. Far,
essentially you gotta find. Yourself you gotta have that moment
of adversity. Too this is, okay we got through. That
now we know how to pull ourselves up from our.
Bootstraps like Aj hinches saying that they. Can't it's a
lot of ball left in the. Season and if it's
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happening right, now and you can fix this in the
next these twenty, games, now you still got thirty nine
games to rock and.
Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Roll, Yeah, NO i took a.
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
POINT i think baseball is a little weird in this.
Regard fifty nine games seems like a lot. Doesn't but,
then on the other, hand it doesn't feel like that much.
Either it's a weird feeling THAT i have at this
time of the year in. Baseball you feel, Like, okay
pretty soon it's going to be closing. Down and then
you look at and you wait fifty nine. Games that's
a long. Time it's hard to reverse, it. Though you
(01:06:21):
need something to create. THAT i hate the, phrase But
i'll say it. Anyway create the. Spark where is the
spark for this? Team, because let's face, It casey my
struggle before The All star, break he struggled during The
All Star game to a certain, extent gave up the
bomb A Corvin carrol and struggled in his last. Start
(01:06:41):
jrek scoobl was really. Good we've said this for a while.
Now i've said this for a long. TIME i like
the two. Starters, okay schoobl and mis really. Good, right one's.
Exceptional Jack, flaherty where's your confidence level with? Him instead
of looking at the entire, team look at the? Players, yeah,
okay Where's that's why when people in the chat are
saying trade for A Uhanio suarez and a, reliever that
(01:07:05):
doesn't cut. It you Need i've said this. Forever you
need a. Starter, okay you're going into a playoff. Series
how many starters do you?
Speaker 6 (01:07:13):
Need?
Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Three give me the three guys you're ultimately confident in right,
now scooble question. Mark question, mark whether you believe it or.
Not most, people when you have your conversations with your,
buddies whether you're at the barbershop or, not not many
people are confident In Jack flirty because of the way
he's pitched this, year And Casey mice hasn't proven it
to you just.
Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
Yet, Yeah Jack flerdy also, Too, LIKE i know you
want to go back to the last, season but like
he did not pitch well necessarily in the playoffs towards
the end of the playoffs with The, dodgers right one
understand with The, dodgers and he comes here and then
he struggled essentially from the start of the.
Speaker 8 (01:07:45):
Season start is up a.
Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
Little bit on the hating, side but now he is,
struggling and you start to look.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Back for a number two. Starter that can't. Happen, no
not if you have, it not if you. Believe, look
if you're happy just winning the, division that's. One but
if you expect to win a playoff series or two
and reach The World. Series you're relying only On Trek.
Scooble think, again because.
Speaker 10 (01:08:09):
We were just sitting here talking, about you, know a
lot of, shows not just, ours a lot of networks
talking about the fact that this team is gonna have pitching,
depth and now you do post something that we really
have to sit here and talk. About you got to
have your starters, right and it's come unto some. Question
early in the, season the first half of the, season
we saw this team win despite like slumps From.
Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Torque here and, There Riley, green Jack.
Speaker 10 (01:08:34):
Erdy now we're seeing the team not necessarily win despite
those and why because what was supposed.
Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
To ultimately be the strength from the beginning of the.
Speaker 10 (01:08:42):
Season it's pitching is now becoming a question mark that
we shouldn't have with this. Team if you're talking about
This Detroit tiger's team and success is gonna have to
start and end with this.
Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Pitching the bullpen was a, strength there was a weapon of.
Speaker 10 (01:08:55):
Theirs and now you're looking at The Detroit tigers team
where you got some questions about what depth really will
they be able to take him to the? Playoffs and
you're hoping that they definitely do something at the trade.
Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Deadline but you're.
Speaker 10 (01:09:05):
Right before we thought it was finishing. Pieces you were
right on, That. Matt now we're not so. Sure now
the questions change a little. Bit AND i do believe
when you talk about some, concern this's right to have
a level of. Concern BUT i See Thomas woodford here
in the. Chat he, says keep it a. Buck they're
just coming back to the pack a. Little they were
so far ahead of the. Curve give them a breakdown
(01:09:27):
and a chance to get back to, basics win the
division and get hot again.
Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Late he, thinks it's just that.
Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
Simple you asked that question that you asked me earlier through.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Texts, yeah my question was AND i understand it with
how your bias because we've seen it for three. Years
the question is how your buyers makes twenty five million.
Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
Dollars see this.
Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Goes back to what we were talking about. Yesterday everybody
associates players athletes with their how much.
Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
Money we never asked how? Much you.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Know Liam neeson makes it a movie for crying out
loud for some, reason but, Whatever he's.
Speaker 8 (01:09:59):
Got a new movie coming up out To Naked, Guns.
Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Bad, PEOPLE i.
Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
CAN'T i can't fathom him as that lead. Role but, okay,
whatever BECAUSE i keep seeing, him you know him him
working on The serbians with with. Taken but, anyway, yeah
different set of, skills, right we asked, it so twenty
five million For Havier bias and All i've heard for
three plus years is.
Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
He's not worth the. Money fair, Enough, okay That's Jack
flairty makes the same amount of. Money why don't ever hear? That,
BOY i never hear.
Speaker 8 (01:10:29):
IT i think it's and this is just.
Speaker 7 (01:10:31):
ME i DON'T i don't technically, know BUT i think
it's because it's in this space that he's been last
year and now this he's been not, hidden but he's
been a part of a. Collective and the collective Is
Chris fetder and The tigers, bullpen The tigers pitching, staff
and how good they were last year and you know
how many times he had thirteen strikes and, oh by the,
(01:10:52):
way they lost zero to.
Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
One i've got a high strikeout to walk, right strike
out for nine.
Speaker 7 (01:10:56):
Year so every time you see him up, there he
may give up two jacks and he may give up four,
arms but he's getting seven, k's eight, k's nine. K's
so you see that and you just wash it over
because well it's the pictures to, have the pitches to
have is a thing that makes The tigers. Go so,
Yeah i'm not sure About Jack, Flairty you're, right. One
that's the reason. Why oh well he went out to
The dodgers in won The World.
Speaker 8 (01:11:15):
Series, yeah and then he came. Back he came back
to little Old.
Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
Detroit no one's ever done, that, Right SO i think
that's Why jack gets a pass and that and he shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Real, Listen, yeah absolutely beating by the, way well he's
striking out eleven per. Nine hobby Or baia is just
striking out too often for. People, yeah again the negative
compared to the. Positive, okay but, yeah both his strakeoffs
will be equivalent to How Will hobby was.
Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
Fielding even When hobby is struggling everywhere, else he seems
to be out center field or whatever you want to put,
him the strakeoffs will be equivalent to him.
Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Fielding.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Yeah the the the cry for doing something on the
part Of Scott harris is going to get louder and
louder as this. Continues not that it wasn't loud before.
Today Is july twenty. Third the trade deadline Is july thirty.
First it is eight days. Away so we talked about
didn't we just say earlier that The lions first game In,
(01:12:09):
canton in The hall Of fame game.
Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
Is eight days?
Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Away, okay it's also The Major League baseball trade. Deadline
And i'm very confident That Scott harris and his crew
are working their ass off to try and get something.
DONE i don't doubt. That the Question i'm wondering is
what are they going to get? Done are you going
to go.
Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
For A i don't, know let's Say Sandy.
Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Alcontra, okay let's say you know a guy Like Sonny,
gray for example In Saint louis on where you get
him for a little bit of? Time or are we
going to focus only on the, bullpen BECAUSE i think
the starting pitching is just as important as an acquisition
as the bullpen would.
Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
Be, Definitely oh, YEAH i, SAID i think.
Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
It is he going to go out and get a
starting pitcher like a sunny, grade like A Sandy, Alcontra Chris,
bassett somebody like?
Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
That are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
That or do you feel like a lot of people
focus strictly on the. BULLPEN i think the starting, pitching
or a need for a starting, pitcher is just as,
important if not more than the.
Speaker 7 (01:13:17):
BULLPEN i think he will go out. HERE i think
he will go out and get a. Start and this
is WHY i got a couple of friends on. Insights
so this comes from other places within The tigers.
Speaker 8 (01:13:26):
Organization mind.
Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
YOU i think what you heard in the offseason about
what was attempted on One Alex, BRAGMAN i think going
back To Scott harris signing all his players this year
was trying to run back what they did last year
because they didn't believe in those players last. Year and
this has come from in house like that come back
and getting into the, playoffs that was roll these players
out there because we don't, believe and we'll see what
(01:13:49):
we get out of those and then we'll see what
we want to do for the twenty twenty five. Season,
well those, players they, worked and they got you to
the playoffs and they won you a playoff. Series coming
into this, year he wanted to roll that back and
see what you really could get out of. IT i
think now we're at a point where he said he
wanted to Buy Alex bregman in the off. SEASON i
think the sky hair sees what The tigers are doing
in terms of this, city coming, back getting back to
(01:14:09):
well For, chris what his father, was essentially in terms
of what the team.
Speaker 8 (01:14:14):
Was in terms of, THAT i don't think they have a.
CHOICE i think they Are scott And chris their gun
ho about what this can.
Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Be, well they've got to Be they've got to go.
OUT i, mean you can go get A Mitch, keller
who pitched against him last. Night you can go get
A Zach. Gallon you can get some of. Those AND
i don't care about the. Name i'm talking about how
effect can you? Play can you?
Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
Play this is why they saved the money in the off,
season in my. Estimation this is why they didn't go
him and paying people up with the exception. Pregnant this
is why they didn't spend a ton of money in
the off. Season they were waiting for this trade deadline
moment because they believed in this team being. Good they
knew they would need, something just didn't know what that would.
BE i think they know what they need.
Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
Now well that's.
Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Concerning if that's the, case it's concerning because the need
was clearly. Identified so that's concerning you were gonna.
Speaker 10 (01:15:02):
Say, NO i was just gonna, say you, know you
guys have been around, this and you Hear Scott harris
about a month ago state we believe that this is
a world series, year not just a long term, window
not just what we're building to in.
Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
The, future but this year world.
Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
Series so we're going to hit the trade deadline and
we are going to be. Aggressive and Now i'm wondering
what exactly does that mean because this, team it has
shaped up as the season has gone now beyond just
to start the, year we would have said you got
to go out there and get a bat or. Two,
now all of a, sudden as a year starts going,
on now it's a we got to show up the.
Bullpen and now at this, juncture it's a lot more
(01:15:37):
out there for them to. Do SO i wonder how
much of his initial what was, Aggression what was he
going to be at the trade deadline to go out
there and try and put them over the top versus.
Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Or clear right, now it's probably clearer now what they
need than it was before the beginning of the, season
BECAUSE i don't think they anybody ever Thought Dylan dingler
would be this. Effective for, EXAMPLE i don't think anybody,
YEAH i don't think offensively in, DEFENSE i might assure.
IT i don't think, yeah it's it's really impressive what he's.
Speaker 6 (01:16:05):
Done. Uh and by the, way An alavila. Pick BUT
I i JUST i.
Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
DON'T i don't know what aggressive means you can. MAKE
i don't care how many deals you. MAKE i care
about who you get and how they fit in with
this team more than anything. Else All, right that's the
most important. Thing what are you Addressing if you're addressing
if you're getting a starting pitcher who's going to be
number two in, line because nobody's gonna be The a's
(01:16:29):
other Than Terry. School if you're gonna go on and
get a number, two that's. Great if you give me
a number, five that doesn't move my, needle not at. All,
okay it really. Doesn't if maybe he's a swing guy
who can go from starting a, bullpen guess What.
Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
Montero can do That flaherty's.
Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Done that you need the guy after the guy is
what you need more than anything. Else, Okay so it
matters to me when when you say, aggressive who's the
guy you're going to get if you're going to get
just an average guy and you're just making moves AND
i don't think he does this making moves to make.
Moves and, wow we got this guy and we got that.
Guy how effective are they going to? Be that's the
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a matter of The tiger's making a. Trade the easy
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got a trade for fill in the, blank like somebody
put in the. CHAT i don't think The diamondbacks are
going to want to get rid of Au Haano. Suarez why,
Not he's at the end of his. Contract they're two
games under five, hundred they're the second to last place
in The. Division they're not going to make the. Playoffs
why wouldn't. YOU i would think you'd be a great.
Fit what would you give up for? Him oh and
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Sox that doesn't help, either does.
Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
It the worst team in The American league swept, them
then they turned around and swept.
Speaker 6 (01:22:09):
You so those are bad optics as. Well, anyway my point.
Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Is easy to talk. About, yeah you know, WHAT i
would make a. Trade the question is what would you
surrender for the. Trade that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (01:22:22):
That we've got to look, at, like is it how you?
Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Lee oh, man he's been really good At, toledo AND
i liked what he did At irian so and For,
okay do you think he's gonna break this lineup anytime?
Soon is either future second baseman or third? Basement would
you get rid of the guy who just pitched for you?
Today Troy. Melton he's ranked tenth on their prospect list
half fIF.
Speaker 6 (01:22:43):
Days you've got to do something.
Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Right you've got to be willing to surrender something like,
that especially if you want a guy who's got over
thirty one bombs right now In Aohanuel suarez speaking.
Speaker 8 (01:22:53):
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Speaker 6 (01:22:57):
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