Did Brad Holmes Do ENOUGH at the Deadline? | Braylon Edwards Show with Shep | November 5th, 2025

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Pointing, I Will is wrong period, Rayln was right, Ryan
was right. Well, you're right about a lot of stuff,
you know, unless you're in the relationship. But she's always right.
It's you know, the not trade. Okay at the deadline.
So had to swallow that, had to sit there and
go okay, now I got to deal with it and

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we'll talk a little bit about the the other side
of that. Can you is it possible for us to
possibly say I get what they're trying to do. I
understand why Brad Holmes stand platt. Okay, we'll try that.
That's coming up. We're also going to talk a little
basketball Pistons looking for FOREI in a row tonight when

(01:44):
they take on the Utah Jazz, and uh, we'll talk
a little baseball too because a national voice and former
general manager has suggested a certain trade. But first, good afternoon,
how are you.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
I'm doing for of those out there, and I was
here on time, been here forty five plus speaking. Sure
we got water because one thing about blowing hot air,
When you blow hot air, you get a little.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Dry out of this pithle.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, so make sure.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
We get the waters for the show. But I'm good.
I think I've calmed down since having a conversation yesterday
with the detail Lions did not do at the trade deadline.
We can have that conversation and talk about what the
other side particularly looks like, because I mean, it is
the same thing as what they told us before the season.
We lack our team like what we have like what

(02:32):
we have in position this is going to be the
team that makes it to the super Bowl or win
the super Bowl. So they still feel that way. So
this is how they've backed it. So now we can
judge accordingly and move forward to the game is coming
Sunday against the Washington Commander.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I backed off a little bit too when we left here.
I left here, I'm gonna be honest. I was pretty heated.
I was upset, I was disappointed, I was frustrated. If
you want to throw anger in there, go ahead. But
I thought about it a little bit last night, and
then I talked with an NFL insider this morning, Pat Kerwin,
and I couldn't wait to talk to you about this

(03:07):
to see if we understand why. Okay, so we will
get to that. First things first, at least three of
us have significant others. Ryan just dates on Friday and
Saturday nights, and then he moves on to the next
young lady that walks through the door at one in
the morning. So the question, the question is, you know, look,

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guys have certain habits. Right. We scratch a lot, we
spit a lot, we burp a lot, We clip our
toes without a towel underneath it, and wonder where they go.
Right a lot of times I'm not saying I do that.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
I'm saying I definitely don't.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm saying a lot of guys do that.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Okay, that's fair. The other thing, at least I do
is you know, when you're take it a shower, I
blow my nose in the shower.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Oh same, you do it?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Oh yeah, especially well yeah, okay, kool Aid, you do it.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Don't.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Don't be holier than now.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Come on, A couple comes and bs.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, yeah he is. Yeah, you know what, kool Aid
takes his earphones off until we start talking pistons.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
This is true. Wait a sudden, So what I'm thinking
about k Cunningham today is, uh, you know, you want
to be very kind.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
All of a sudden, you hear this. You're talking about
number two, You're talking about c C.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
You're talking about Kate the twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Anyway, do you below you.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Know, in the shower? Oh no, but my nose in
the tower?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
No?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Are you kidding me? You're the only guy I've ever
heard who doesn't do.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
That, like just straight yeah in this hour.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
No, that sounds like I'll do that on the field
if I'm hooping.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
You'll you'll do it on the basketball court, but you
won't do it in the shower court.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Not on the court. Somewhere out in the field. That's
that's the place. Okay, So you're legitimately watching a Detroit
Pistons game. If you're not an LCA, you're watching a
Pistons game. You feel the need to blow your nose,
so you grab a piece of paper, til ass or
it's a napkin. You blow your nose into the napkin,
and you proceed to put this napkin into the toilet,

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which is worse for the environment than just blowing the
snot that comes into the drain that dissolves it all.
But you'd rather take the tissue. This is what you do,
all right. Look, that's a good explanation because that's the
way you do it. Amy, you are the best, is all.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Okay, thanks, we've got it. We're gonna we're introduce let's
let's get a fee perspective. Can we get a female perspective?
Can you come around here for us? Please? Think you?

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, see, you know what you walked into.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
All right. So I got in trouble today. I get
in trouble quite a bit, all right. One of the
things I do while in the shower is blowing my nose.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Okay, how bad is that?

Speaker 4 (05:54):
From a female perspective, not just my wife, but from
a female's perspective. And have you ever heard of that
from a guy's perspective?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
My dad does it.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I mean it's not it's not God because you're already
getting clean. So it's like, and there is a drain.
Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
There's a drain?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, So I don't think it's bad.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
You don't think. See if I can get too personal,
do you do that?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Okay, I was.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I don't know any women who do it.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
I wasn't gonna letter. I wasn't allowed to say yes anyway.
I was gonna be taking me at all. Cats Amy,
we appreciate you and awesome.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
It looks camera than I do. That's for damn.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Sures, which is right over there. But also to Amy
had the nail on his like we say it's cleaned up,
it's done, you're clean. After you walk out, it goes
down and drain, et cetera, et cetera. To make sure
you clean your shower. Now, so you say you do
the things, don't clean your shower, and it's an issue,
but uh, for sure, I think men do most things
in the shower. Yeah, And I think it's it is.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Enough said there. Yeah, I'm stunning the kool aid actually
thinks we're gonna believe him in a swimming pool, al right,
not a swimming pool.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Not a swimming pool.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
No, but I have seen people try to do that
and I have to call them out. I've seen people
with the gym not planingt fitness, but they'll take a towel, put.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Some little clothes on, like oh like never, man, that's
a whole nother conversation. That's it. You know what. That's true.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
That is so flipping truth. Thank you say it. Go
ahead say it.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
This doesn't happen to planting fitness. But they won't feel
bad because they don't have a excuse me, a dry
sign of nor a jacuzie. So I can say this
from time to time when I work out at my
other gym, not planning fitness, guys just coming to this
dry sign of man's just butt ass naked, like they
just walk I just don't understand at what age is

(07:40):
it just like you know what, I'm cool, I'm just
gonna walk around booty button naked. I'm an air dry
I'm many.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
And by the way, you don't have the physique to
do it.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
I don't even care about the physique, just don't do it.
And then the sign of like listen, put a towel on,
put a towel on. You come in there, you sit
down on another towel. That's how I do respect. You
sit down on another ToIP. Mind your business, you do
your thing. Seven, eight minutes, ten fifteen, Get the hell
out of there. Don't come in there. Button theked trying
to have conversations. It happened to me today. The sauna

(08:11):
was dark.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
It was dark.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I saw the one guy see in the morning in
the corner. But you keep it dark, it's less conversation.
When the lights were on, everybody wants to talk about
politics and the lions and others. I don't need all that.
It's seven in the morning.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I will the lions with you, you know everyone else theat.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
And I love I love my people there. Yeah, but
not in the morning. So, Jimmy, I see a guy
in the corner. It was dim light. I said, okay,
I know, Hi'm gonna come in there. I'm gonna sit
right against the wall as soon as you walk in.
I didn't even see the guy to my left. I
saw it just kind of a shadow. And they were
having a conversation about guess what, the Detroit Lion's not
making a move at the trade deadline. So I'm just,

(08:47):
you know, having a conversation sitting down book. Well they're
having a conversation. I have my headphones in, sitting down,
just praying. I'm like, all right, cool, I got this
work out here and let get ready for the rest
of the day. Then this guy asked me a question.
He proceeds to say, he said, you know, I know
you do it. Show what are your thoughts on it?
I immediately turn turn right into a you know what, Like, gentlemen,

(09:10):
just put a time. This is all asked. When you
go into a sign, when you go into steam sign,
and when you whatever type of sign, please do me
the favor of putting on a top.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
About just going into the locker room. I went into
the sun of the other day and you open up
the door, and of course you know it's a steam
So the steam comes out and there's a dude. We've
got two steps. There's a dude right there on the
first step.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Nothing on.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Last week. Don't get it, Well I don't get it.
Last week. I go in same thing. A guy's laying
down on the top set, nothing out and I literally
turn right around. Okay, I guess this is full. I'm
done because when I go in there, I'm not saying
what I do is always right. But when I go
in there, I got the I've got like a hood.
I take that towel and put it over my head

(09:59):
and I just.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
That's call word for don't talk to me.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
And I'm not trying to be unfriendly.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I just don't don't talk.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
It's just I don't.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Necessarily need to strike up the conversation.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Do it for it. It's call word for don't talk
to me. Hey, look you know what They don't do
this at Planning Fitness, where your fitness is essential, with
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the next ringcause this is the read getting up there.
I'm reading right now. Keep your tois on because this
also happens in the ladies' locker room. So I've been told, See,

(10:31):
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(11:05):
You're not working on the older spaces sometimes that you know, Yeah,
the older people, they just they don't give a ship.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
They just don't. They're like, it's too hard. Why don't
you put a taller because then I got to tie
it on the side, and then you know, then the
arthritis creeps in and then you know it's gonna fall
apart anyway, because the towel is not big enough. So
I'm like, dude, please, I mean, can you have some
class indignity?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
And you set me up to because you knew I
wasn't gonna talk to you about anything else. You guys
are talking to and all of a sudden you introduce, oh,
well you guys do it show you what do you
think about the lions?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Well?

Speaker 5 (11:38):
I think that okay, okay, thanks Pete.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
He looked appreciative.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
So just with a lot of due respect, you know, just.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
There's no judgment, but there has to be some judgment.
So the bottom line is, guys do. Guys do a
lot of things. You know, they've got some nasty habits.
Apparently that's one of mine. So my wife was, you know, upset.
She's not upset, but she's like, that is so gross, Matt,
Why do you do that? So I said, look, every
guy I know does it, except for kool aid. Now,

(12:11):
so thanks a lot for that. I never really thought
about it.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
You should have answered it with a question and say,
first of all, we've been married very long time. Second, well,
do you know all the nasty things women do, whether
you have to do it or not.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, they'll be they'll take the holier than dow rout.
So so the bottom line, yes, I'll tell you this, Matt.
My dad never did that. And I said, your dad
never did it.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
And I said, first of all, how would you know
she goes?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Because well, I lived in the same house a long
time ago, and I could at least hear that. I said,
come on downstairs, right you got you got a couple
of games. So you know what I did. I called
my mother in law right away. He was a verd.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
She said, oh, yeah, he did it.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
And now what was her responds yes, like it didn't
mean anything.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Then she brings up another example. Well, this person doesn't
do it well. So we're gonna move that. We're gonna
kick that can down the road a little bit. We're
gonna move it a little bit more until Matt's.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Proven wrong, Lions fans.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I will say this, although kool Aid's killing me right
because if my wife is watching and she does watch
for Brailn, not for me, but when she does watch
chat and she and she does like kool Aid, Now
she's gonna do this. Now, she's gonna be like, see,
kool aids nice, he's respectful, he's clean.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
That's what can give me in trouble when I go
home and my wife that this is more exceeding now
on y'all. But look, Zach Miller says, both of you
guys got some plugs today.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Zach Miller says.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Is definitely the best place to blow your nose, and
King Jordan says it all out legit situation right listen,
King Jordan's said, Braylan is spitting the naked truth right now.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
But hey, y'all, that's really good in all form one.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
That is very exceptable. You get in, you get out,
you get clean, it goes down and drink and the
other one, Jesus Christ, we don't need to see it.
And I guarantee you have conversations with these individuals like
after listening. No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about
in there. I'm talking about like if I was what
I'm done talking and once I see the nakeds. But

(14:13):
if you saw him at a coffee shop and you say, look,
let me ask you a question, because I think you
you frequent the place I go to. Why why are
you just naked all the time? And what is that about? Well,
you know when you served in Vietnam and you got
this angle and it's sciatica and you're divorced, and you
know what you deserve to do what you want to do. Yeah,
I can't even be mad at you.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
All right. So my sons, My son's in the gym
one time and he runs into an old coach of
his who played at your alma mater for a long time, okay,
all right, And he comes up and he's just he's
he's just a good dude.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
But he's an old.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Timer, all right, And what does he do put, puts
the leg up and goes, how's it going? Oh now
to the left, right, right, That's what it is. Yes,
it's a comfortable it's comfortability.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
But I will say this though, like I will never
do this. However, I can't wait to dom the.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
The energy bad word.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
No, no to this energy, to where I feel this way.
I can't wait to be so at peace and so
comfortable and so confident and so just relax until that
I'm gonna let.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
It all hang or you just don't care, right, you
just don't care.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
I welcome that level of confidence and energy. I will
never do.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
How about the guys who shave then do that?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
They just sit there in front of the sink, in
front of the mirror, shaving with no towel. It's like, dude, please,
now I can't even brush my teeth. Okay, I gotta
wait a little bit.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
There's a young there's a there's a younger guy. When
I s a younger is probably fifty, but he's younger
than you know the other guys in this thing. Like
he does that, and I just like he wants to
talk about religion, and you catch me because I want
to talk about the faith. I want to talk about
what Sunday was like for you. A message. But even
God knows, Man, you gotta put a tower like this.
Ain't Adamy, This ain't the secret guard. Now those days

(16:00):
ruin that moment, this.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Moment.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
So now you have to put on some clothes.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I'm sorry, but them too.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Bro. Literally, here's a clover.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
There's a little shroud for you. Man, a little fig
piece like because he's younger, he said. Man, look, man,
one thing about the Lord. I'm gonna just turn over
here and listen.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
To stop stop preaching and stop reaching at the same time.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
All right, off the rails. I love to start.

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When we come back. When we come.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Back, sit here talking about nikky guys in the steaming room.

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Jesus Christ. When we come back, I started it started
with just blowing your nose in the shower. When we
come back, we will talk about the Lions approach on
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(23:11):
of this show, or one of the beauties, is that
we've got a lot of different generations, so we all
think our generation is the best, which is untrue. But
we all okay, but but but we all have we
all we all have certain things that we complain about

(23:32):
that generation. Ryan has said, you know what the problem
with your generation is? Dot dot does I haven't said anything.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
No communication.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
We're talking about we're talking about last week. Ryan's generation
is a hard time remembering, has a hard time multitasking.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
I will start there. Manners, it's good. I think you're right,
not him, not you.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Oh, I think it's definitely want to understand.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
They're like, yeah, not spoken to, like won't speak unless
spoken to, I won't say thank you. Just a little
things that they do, the proverbial wave after somebody lets
you into traffic, right his manners, if you will, Yeah,
small things add up to being annoyed.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, paying attention to somebody, looking them in the eye,
carrying on a conversation and finishing the conversation.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
That wolf aka mental health days.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yes, yes, yes, now that's definitely not Ryan, but yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Mental health this is really Ryan.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, some of it is.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Some of it is Ryan.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
I would say paying attentions definitely mean. I'll tell you
that absolutely struggle, just.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
As kool aid when he just tossed you.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
For the read yeah, prime example.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's a perfect example.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Absolutely, you dig yourself the whole. You know that, right, Yeah,
it's just I'll own it.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'll admit it.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
I like that. See, I like that about you're unique
to your generation. Our generation, his is different than mine.
Our generation. We had to own it. You had to
own it.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
I appreciate you for like throwing it out.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
I don't I don't want people to think I had
me over there, buddy. I had a boss one time
who literally said to me, it's like you guys. You know,
he said, to the entire crew, own your own chip. Okay,
stop making excuses. Stop well, this is what happened, and
this is what No. Okay, I'll be better. Just be
better to word answer, be better. My dad tells me

(25:21):
all the time, you're dead smart. You might want to
listen to him once in a while.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
I will say. I would say, like generations are like
what they do well is they figured things out a
lot of times. Giving them some credit, like they'll they'll
look at things, figure it out and not necessarily get
been out of shape. I think my generation like we
gotta do it ourselves, Like I gotta do it myselves.
And then when I do it wrong. Now I'm like,
well you know this that No, no, no, no, just it's

(25:45):
okay to ask for help. It's okay to figure things.
I ask for help. I don't know what I don't know,
so I give them credit for that. They'll figure something.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Is that a generational thing or is that a guy thing?

Speaker 5 (25:56):
No, because there's a lot of guys. That's they're claim
to fame is the handyman figuring thing, going and diving
in bets. See what you're saying, he's fixing them up.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
The guys who aren't the handyman, they're gonna keep doing
it and do it and doing it until they can
finally get it right. And if they can't get it right,
it will take their wife or significant other to say,
can you just call Braylan. He's really good at this.
He'll help you, all right. I finally, will you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
I was recognizing some similarities in the speech that you
sounds like it, man, I may I may recognize that
guy or not.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, And it'll take you hour after hour, and then
finally I could have saved two hours if I would
have just called my buddy George and George comes over
and helps me with the paneling. You see what I'm
saying is that that that turned pretty dark pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Figure right, let's get to yesterday.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
We were we were all pretty uh emotional, and we
were all pretty frustrated with the Lions. Now that you've
had almost twenty four hours to digest it, can you
understand where they're coming from by not making a.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
Move from the Detroit Lions standpoint, Yes, I can understand
where they're coming from. They're looking at their depth chart
as we all want them to make major moves on
the offensive line. They're looking at the fact that their
excuse their offensive lineman now that will replace Christian Mahogany
is I will Seeker last season and he started four games,
including two seas ago the NFC Championship game. And you

(27:25):
look at the situation like, look, Hank Frey's been working
with him. Maybe he's a guy that's looking at I
got passed up. I got passed over for this spot.
So maybe he's a guy that they believe it. Maybe
he's a guy that's gonna come here and have some talent.
Maybe Taylor Decker is going to figure it out. Maybe
that injury there isn't as bad as they think. The Obviously,
they got Terry and Arnold back last week. They'll get
DJ Reed back at some point. Kirby Joseph will be

(27:48):
back at some point, so that back end not making
a move on that side. They like what they're getting
out of their defensive line right now. Look before the
season started, they told us, but we're good, we believe
in this team, etc.

Speaker 13 (28:00):
Etc.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
I think they've doubled down on it. I still think
after watching that, after watching the Green Bank game, mixed
in with the Chiefs game, mixed in with this loss
to the Minnesota Vikings, which is a glaring loss, as
you thought that they maybe have had some things figured
it out looking at those losses. Two of those guys
are going to be in the playoffs. They're gonna be,
you know, situations to deal with at certain points. One

(28:24):
of those teams is an ugly loss. You can't look
at these three losses. You can't look at these three
games and look at your current roster and not potentially
make a move. I don't know what that move would
have been for the Detroit Lions, but you can't look
at this roster and not make a move at all.
But now that they haven't, I think it's they believe
they're getting players back. They still believe in what this
team is, and I think they believe in the players

(28:46):
that they have. They believe in, Like we talked about
the roster, I'm Aro Saint Brown, Jamier Gibbs, Jared goff
Pine so flip on the other side. At some point
they'll figure it out with Johnny Mo. I'm not as
confident the Detroit Lions. I don't have to get up
here and yelling scream today, but I'm just not as
confident as them. I think they have some glaring indeficiencies,

(29:07):
and I think the teams that felt they had some
things to work on felt like they needed a couple pieces.
There's no there was no blockbuster deals that were done
the trade deadline. There's nothing that, oh, they did this,
we have to do this. There was some good moves
made Seattle. They made a really good move, Phil. The

(29:29):
Rams made some good moves last week as it relates
to their DBS as a lace started a week. So
there wasn't the blockbuster moves where I was like, oh
my god, the Green Bay Packers did this, the Rams
did that, and you didn't do anything, but it's enough
to where the teams that are going to the playoffs
that were pretty good this season that you played, they
made moves and they beat you. So I kind of
look at it from that standpoint. I wish they would

(29:50):
have done something to show me that you see the
same thing I see, Because Matt, I'm not blind and
my one eye is better than most people too. As
it relates to this sport, there was something that could
have been done and nothing was done.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah, and that's that's not one of those situations where
you were you were expecting them to trade for Sauce Gardner.
So that's I want people to understand, that's not where
you were yesterday.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
That's why we really didn't even mention that trade enough
to break it down in terms of what was given,
what was taken, But we didn't point out that trade.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
They did this. We didn't mention that right. We weren't
looking for the splash, if you will. But there's an
example that yesterday the Titans traded Roger McCreary to the Rams.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
All right, now, I.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Know it's not a huge name and he's not necessarily
an All pro or a pro bowler, but you were
talking about from a depth standpoint, quality players from a
depth standpoint, And this is a guy you you gave
up a fifth they gave up a fifth round pick
for him. Now, I know a lot of it is fit,
So I understand that player and the fit and the

(30:56):
system and all that other stuff. But I think that's
where a lot of people puls frustration.

Speaker 14 (31:00):
Was.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
It's not that we want to surrender a first or
a second round pick for Trey Hendrickson or Sauce Gardener
or somebody of that ilk. But when you see certain
players or certain teams that are gonna be you're gonna
have to battle against to win the NFC, then you
know damn well that that's going to come into play.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting
a different result. And I'm not calling the detailed Lions insane,
but I am saying that here we are at the
end of trade downline. I know last year they move
Asidarius Smith. I believe that that move was necessary considering
what happened to eight Hunchesson, in which you did not
have on the other side, because Marcus Davenport, who you did.
I digress, So you don't do anything at the trade

(31:44):
down line, you have to do something different than what
you have done before, especially when it's a situation that
you can use these pieces. You talk about the phillylf
EAUs yes, staying like, oh, I don't know if I
will get not this is you. It's just a conversation
proverbial you. I don't know if I would give a
third round paper Jayalen Philip, he's done this and he
hasn't done that. It's a third round pick that you
will get back at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
That's cool.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
It doesn't even cost you anything because they're not going
to sign Phillips to a long term deal. This is
for this year. We see it, we see it. We
see a spot on strike while ironside, we're not signing you.
So now you get a third round pick from the Dolphins,
which means you get your third round pick back. So
you could have made a move like this, Like you
explain a move like that to the fan base, like
that's exactly what the Eagles did. You get a guy

(32:26):
that could maybe be a piece for you in the playoffs,
be a piece for you Donald, But when you play
the Lions, when you play the Rams, when you play
the bucks, you get a piece, and oh, by the way,
you can literally at the end of the season say hey,
this is cool. Appreciate you get luck in free agency
and get your third round pick back, like this is
a cool move. This wasn't taking away from that fourth
in terms of money that you can spend. This wasn't

(32:48):
taking away from spots next year and who's up and
who's dude. Moves like that were the moves that I'm
looking forward to Brown Holmes maybe making in the future
because you've done so much well, I mean, excuse me,
you've done so much much, right, Yeah, you've done so
well in the draft. And I know we cracked jokes yesterday,
we point out some things, but overall you've been drafted well,
you've created this foundational base. Now we just got to

(33:09):
add more to the resume. Now we have to add
more to it. To do something you have never done,
I mean, to get something you've never gotten. You have
to do something you've never done.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah. And the reason I say it's a good example
and everybody knows and Brayland knows it too. They don't
have a third round pick next year. If that's right,
He's talking about using that as an example. They got
a first, they get a second, they got a fourth,
they got a fifth, they got two sixth and I
think they got two seventh next year. Whether they like
it or not, Detroit is measured against teams like Philadelphia. Yeah,

(33:40):
because they're the Super Bowl champs in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Besides, you know the Jalen Phillips.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
What else they've done is they went out and they've
got good corners, right, They've invested a lot of capital
in their corners. People look at the Jalen Phillips. Well,
you brought up the Jayi Alexander move. So the Eagles
got them him from Baltimore and they got him for
a sixth round draft pick. But before that, they got
Michael Carter and a seventh rounder for John Metchi and

(34:07):
a sixth rounder. It's called, well, the word we used
yesterday creativity, Okay, And maybe they just don't feel as
good about their roster as Brad Holmes does. I try
to give him the benefit of the doubt because quite honestly,
I think he's earned that. I don't think you and
I are so hyperbolic where we wanted something moved just

(34:28):
for the sake of something moved. We see serious problems.
And when people keep saying, well, this is who they're
getting back, Khalil Dorsey, They're getting Malcolm Rodriguez back.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Eventually they're gonna get Josh Pascal and.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Marken staffordor listen, at some point these guys are coming back,
not Rodrigus or Dorsey, but Davenport and Pascal and some
of these other guys in December. You've got four games
before December and we turn the calendar. You still have
to play the Eagles and Washington and Green Bay and

(35:01):
the Giants, not in that order.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Also to a lot of guys that you're waiting on
to come back, a lot of guys that will be
pieces for you. I heard earlier to Josh Pascal they've
started to practice squad the clock on him, so he
may be active by not this week, maybe the following week,
if you will. But these guys that you're talking about
coming back, what have they done when they were healthy
to get me excited about them coming back. Nobody that

(35:24):
you have named has done anything for the Detroit Lions
so that when they come back, I'm like, oh, man,
Marcus Davenport, I can't wait to see what that looks like,
I know what I keep hearing. You keep telling me
what it looks like. You keep telling me that he's
on r You keep telling me that he's putting in
all the sport, which I believe, like injury. You can't
control injuries. Like that's not on him. But at the
end of the day, what the Lions are doing is
on them, like Hastein, Like this is the guy we're

(35:46):
waiting for Hastein to come back. Man, wait till we
get Hasteen back. He's gonna be a good defensive rush.
He was a question mark when the season started, when
he was healthy, would he be anything like he was
last year? Like you thought he was gonna be stopped
parading these six round picks or these guys that have
done nothing on the field out here is this is
who we're getting back. This is why people want you
to make moves, because it's the guys that are traded

(36:09):
that you're talking about. They have a track record in
the last two years of making players or doing enough.
So I'm bringing this guy and team. I know exactly
what he's gonna do. I know exactly what's gonna be
and he can help me in this way. The guys
that you're waiting to come back. You're praying, you're hoping
that Josh Pascal can be what he was when you
saw him in the second game he played, and when
he had two sacs, maybe that was something to it,

(36:29):
and then that was it, Like you're hoping that guy hasiny,
like you're hoping. That's my issue with this particular situation
because it feels like we're hoping, as opposed to other
franchises feel like, hey, we're making moves.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, guys, there's nothing that would indicate the belief they
have in these players, not necessarily in their talent, but
in their availability. I mean, when you look at Josh Pascal,
here's a guy who has played thirty eight games in
three years. He's got five sacks and twelve tackles.

Speaker 13 (36:59):
For long.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
You want the impact? Can a guy come off of
the injury that he's coming off of and be an
impact player? Marcus Davenport has played eight games in the
last three seasons combined. What makes you think those guys
are reliable players from a health standpoint, let alone a

(37:21):
production standpoint.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Also too, Let's say these players where they're they're coming off.
Let's start here. They're coming off injury. Like even if
these players were legitimately coming off offseason workouts the summer,
building up, getting ready for we still requesting these players.
They're not coming off of that. They're coming off of injury.
So you already have a player that I don't necessarily
test with the skill wise, and you're coming off injury

(37:45):
and it's week whatever of the season, and we expect
you just to jump in and be this game changer like.
It don't work like that, at least my psyche doesn't.
It doesn't work like that. I have to see it
on the field, and right now I haven't seen it
out of these individuals that I'm expecting to help. Agree.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Yeah, And I just got a quick question for both
of you guys, really for everybody and you chat family,
where's your confidence level at now?

Speaker 5 (38:06):
The goal before the season was super Bowl level.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
If you could put a percentage on it, ten, twenty
thirty percent or even more granular, what is that percentage
level for you right now in terms of your confidence level?

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Super Bowl? Super Bowl, that's the goal that's under ten. Oh,
that's super Bowl that's under ten at this point. No, no, no, no, no, no,
at this particular point, we're not at this particular point
to what they look like the last game, what they
did at the trade deadline. Now I want I'm able
to analyze the season as thus far. It would be
under ten percent. Now can that go up just like
our rankings do every day? Sure, yeah, you can go

(38:36):
up at this particular point, like under ten percent is fair?
Do we think they're better than well, I take that back,
you guys do I don't think they're better than the Rams.
I don't think they're better than the Eagles, Like they
got lucky to Green Bay loss and look like that
because now I'm all right, well green Bay's is fraudulent.
They'll they'll beat Green Bay. What's the Chicago Bears game

(38:57):
look like with the Lions? Because they ain't the same
Chicago Bears team that to play a game.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Too, and your team's not the same either, it.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Wan in the other direction. So that's what I'm saying, Like,
if you're being and this is just the NFC, it
was the Seattle can Can they beat the Seattle Seahawks
on the road right now? Who you tell who you're
putting your money on in Seattle?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
So really I think that would be challenging.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
I think it's really important to note.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
I know, I'm more so getting to how I would
say under Tim.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Agreed, I get it, and there's there's logic there for sure.
You know how you guys know how I feel about
home field, home court, home Uh you know, ice advantage.
I think it's way overrated, however, because I mean, look
at what last year I've seen you talk about the
great experience.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Played for the Seahawks. I've seen it.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
It's it's crazy a little different, but but also the weather. Now,
I don't want to put people into a box and say, well,
Jared Goff can't play, and this team is an indoor team.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I hate that stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
But this team looks more comfortable under you know, the
four field environment or under a Los Angeles you know
environment two where it's covered. Seattle is tough because their
defense is the son of a gun. They've got really
good speed now, and they've got the best wide receiver
in football, you could argue. And their quarterbacks are really

(40:17):
good this year, and their head coaches really.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Good, and that running game is starting to pick up
a canine like I actually I was, oh, he does
play for the Seahawks. I saw a Canine inxiety.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
I think what what I'm I'm trying to get to
your point is before the Minnesota game, and look, it
gave it a jolt.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Before the Minnesota game, I thought Detroit's the best team
in the NFC, the best team in football. Now as
you get a bigger sample size and you see what
the Rams do well, how good Seattle is, how Philadelphia
aided their quest to repeat. And even though Green Bay
loss to Carolina, which is mind blowing there, and they

(40:58):
lose one of their best weapons, they're still a force.
My point is, earlier this year, we could have thought
of maybe one or two teams. Now you're looking at Philly,
you're looking at Tampa, you're looking at the Rams, and
you're looking at Seattle. Minimum of four teams who you
could literally consider to be better than Detroit.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
And that's fair. And when you watch the Lions, you know,
we talk about before the Minnesota game, well before the
Minnesota game. You know, maybe not so much after the
Minnesota game, but they looked like that in every game
they played this year, with exception in Chicago Bears games,
there were elements of how they look against the Vikings.
I talked about the Tampa Bay game. If you and
you can't play the if game, I understand that take

(41:37):
out Jamiir's two big runs. That ugly team they played
was a would have been a game like would have
been a game. So when I'm looking at it, how
they look what you can It was the first game
of the season, it was Green Bay Packers. Throw it
all the way. You can throw it away, but you
can't take what it looked like. And what it looked
like is what the Chiefs game looked like when they struggle.
Is what the Minnesota Viking game looked like when they struggled.

(42:00):
They couldn't find it. What is the rhythm? What is
the identity of this team right now? Because we talk
about the run game? Yeah, yeah, it's the run game.
It's the offensive line and they have I'm run saying
brown What part of that looks fluid? For the Detroit
Lions through this season minus two games Chicago Bears and
the Bears and.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
The Brownson Boston, the Baltimore RA or Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
RA Baltimore Ray. I told you I'm not paying attention
to that Browns or that Bengals game. I know, but.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Baltimore the reason I bring up Cleveland Is because I mean,
if you're going to pay attention to how good green
Bay was and is, and you were the first one
on board with that, then the loss must be striking
to you if you're a Packers supporter. That and Carolina,
and maybe Carolina is better than we originally thought.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
But it's saying about green Bay. This is about the line.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
No, I understand.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
I'm just talking about situations here. So I agree with you.
I don't know who they are right now. Quite honestly.
There we go, and that's that's really troubling. Then it beggs.
It does beg the question, who do you know about
what team out there? Do you look at and say, yes,
this is who they are? I know who they are.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
I'm gonna answer this question, but I will say this
before the question, Like when I'm talking about the Lions,
it doesn't matter with the Rams and Eagles and what
they're doing or what they feel like or if they
have it together. When the question is about the Lions,
I'm talking about the Lions. I'm talking about how I
feel about the Detroit Lions after those games, Like whether
the green Bay game, yeah, they find they lost them
and I'm not making overblown I'm just saying how they

(43:32):
looked in that game. Green Bay sucked against the Carolina Panthers,
and they sucked in a couple other games. Realistically, they
luckily tie the one game, so the tie will end
up helping them out. But you're right, they're a very
beatable team. But the Detroit Lions and looking at them
right now.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
So that's the word. That's the word.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
I'm glad you said it, because not that they were,
you know, unbeatable, but they look more beatable, if that
makes sense, all right. And when you looked at this
team before the season began, well right after the Green
Bay game, maybe after the Chicago game, you looked at
and you said, now, I see why I believed because

(44:10):
the only way they lose is is they beat themselves.
Now it looks like, you know what, they're not much
different than just about anybody else. And that is any
given Sunday. And even though it was a decent movie
without Pacino, it's not what you want to hear about
your football team. On any given Sundays, somebody can beat you.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
This is they used to play that before all our games,
and I'm playing for the Browns that was like the
intro to when we're warming up and doing every thing.
I was like, that's why we suck because it's cheesy,
Like this is one of the hardest quotes of all time,
but like to use it in this space is so
so cleesy. Excuse me, so cliche and passe. If you
will look at the Lions year, right, everybody is beatable

(44:52):
in this league. There are no invincibilities in this league.
You thought Coats were going in one way and then
they lose on the road, tough loss to Pittsburgh, still lose.
Who plays some good defense? Daron Rodgers him in all
five of his tight ends, was the only person he
could throw too. It is one of those seasons. That's
why you will want the Lions to do something to
make you feel a little bit better. Yeah, it ain't
really about me, It's about you guys. I think this

(45:12):
moves would have made the Lions feel better because to
not be able to point out what the identity of
the team is. Jamiir Gibbs hasn't found rhythm. Like it's
not game four, like they just finished games eight. They
play eight games and I don't know what this running
game is like David Montgomery for five games. They ain't
even give him the ball. You know, A'mara Saint Brown.
He's always gonna find his yards because he is that

(45:34):
guy and they had that relationship. But man, it seems
like he's always getting it from behind. Pauls it sounded crazy.
He's always finding the yards when the team is behind.
Where it seems I don't it looks good in the
first it's common to It's the commentary that we talked
about the Chicago Bears, legitimate the first drive on script,
they look good. That's what it looked like. Amara Saint

(45:56):
Brown against the temping Buccaneers. What was second quarter through
the third or the fourth in the Cleveland Browns game, fine,
we wanted. Yes, those are big wins. They struggle against
Cleveland early on. If Cleveland had a decent team offensively,
it may have been a different game. The Cincinnati Bengals
found twenty one points at the end of that game. Yeah,
so when you look at it, the more information you

(46:17):
have when you look at it. The Lions have some
issues and it feels as though they do not believe
they do.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Look, I'm glad you you kind of set that straight.
The only reason I bring up other teams is because
if I'm going to mention the Chicago Bears, yeah, then
don't tell me that Chicago is not a little concerned
about their offense when they just allowed a forty year
old throw for four hundred and seventy yards and four touchdowns.
That's true, that's all.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
We did not allow that.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Uh So, I think my point is to soften the
blow for Lions fans out there who might be close
to grabbing that that railing on the bridge, is that
there are other teams with problems. I spoke with somebody
this morning who said, I'm I just want to enjoy
the ride, and I'm just glad because I've suffered through

(47:02):
so many bad seasons that I'm getting good competitive football.
And I said, okay, that's fair. That's your personal feelings
except energy. But here's what I would ask you, at
what point is that not good enough any longer? Because
you watched maybe you felt that way two years ago

(47:23):
when they got to the NFC Championship game. I'm good
they got there. I'm just happy, right, and you thought
it was gonna, you know, springboard into next season. I
felt that, by the way, because the Lions did that
in Washington were embarrassed by Mark Ripping and company. Okay,
and I felt, okay, next year is going to be fine,
and it wasn't fine. But maybe they bucked that trend
and went fifteen and two, had a bye week, and

(47:45):
you thought, this is gravy, this is awesome. I actually
believe we've got a clearer path to the super Bowl
than we did a year ago. Look at how good
we are bring it on. My expectations are rising and
you get you know, basically squashed in the face again.
So why would this year be the same as the

(48:06):
last two in somebody's feelings like that, in terms of
in terms of I'm just enjoying the ride right now,
because instead of having that expectation.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
If somebody says that, then they don't believe anymore, because
it's no way that you still believe. And then that's
the conversation, because when you believe that the Lions are
going to the Super Bowl winning the Super Bowl, then
acceptance isn't good enough. I'm not here to enjoy the ride.
I enjoyed the ride in twenty twenty three, right, I
enjoyed fifteen wins last year, yes, But then when they
lost in the playoffs, the ride was over. Now there's
a different conversation, there's a different energy, and the energy

(48:38):
is with Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell told me it
was Super Bowl or buzz right. So I'm not trying
to enjoy the ride. I'm trying to figure the hell out.
I'm trying to figure out how can we get to
this destination? How can we get to this promised land
that we talked about.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Here's my positive spin.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
I got one for you too.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
My positive spin is that things are changing in this
town for the right reasons.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
And what's changing more than anything, as I hope, and
I hope we're all collectively in agreement with this, that
the expectations for our teams plural are higher than perhaps
they've ever been. Maybe minus one, maybe the Red Wings.
You'll feel good if they just get back to the
playoffs for the first time in nine years. But I'll
guarantee you, especially with the national feel for the Pistons

(49:21):
is hey, man, if we stay healthy and we trust
trading langdon to make a move like you did at
the trade downline last year with Dennis Shrewder to improve
your team, that we're going to be a threat in
the Eastern Conference Finals, the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Same thing.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
I've gone on that ramp before this. What you've said earlier,
super Bowl. Okay, get to the super Bowl and all
this goes away.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah, that's how you do it.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
What it feels like is that every front office in
Detroit wants to sit on their hands.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Now.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
I don't want to get to it feels like they
sit on their hands.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Now.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
I didn't strot that was a good example, but the Tigers,
the Pistons, the Lions. It feels like I'm sitting on
my hands and we'll figure it out. We're good enough.
We'll see how this thing plays out. Because every other
fan base talking about those four has been in the
same position in the last three years, like, damn it,
what are we gonna do something. The positivity for the
Lions is this one. They don't lose back to back games. Two,
they're playing against it, Marcus Marrio is coming week. It's

(50:16):
not about the Commanders and it's not about that. What
it's about is, see, the Lions lost three games out
of eight. They didn't do that last year, they didn't
do that the year before, and this is supposed to
be the team that goes to Super Bowl and win
it all. So now that they haven't done that, this
is more Seriously, this can't be the energy that I know.
I talked about the Halloween party and crack jokes about that,

(50:39):
but I'm serious. This can't be the situation where now
we're so good, I can just go do this right, Hey,
everything is cool, Let me go do this podcast, that podcast,
this distraction, that distraction. You're not good enough to be
a part of distractions right now. You got to lock
it in. And I think Dan Campbell, because I still
believe he's a coach that we believe it, he's gonna
lock this team in. And I think it won't take

(51:01):
much for them because they already police themselves. They're gonna
lock it in. That's the best thing the Lions have
going for him right now is they've created this space
over the last four or five years. And that much
is true. That much I believe in. It's the identity,
it's the culture, it's the self policing is to figuring
things out when bleep hits the fan. So that's the
best thing the Lions got going for me. Because I
still believe in them, because they've shown me a body

(51:23):
of work. They don't lose back to back games. They
figured things out when moments get worse. So right now,
I think that's the best thing the Lions got going
for them is they're gonna have this game. They'll get
back together, it'll blow this team out, and then they'll
be able to take it into the follow week against
the Eve.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Let's talk.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Dan Campbell does his best Vince Vaughn from Wedding Crashers invitation,
Lock it up, you.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Lock it up, Lock it up. The thing I would
say we're gonna hear.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
From Dan Campbell, okay, from what he said to give
some explanation. The thing I don't want to hear from
Detroit sports fans in general is of how this makes
you hungrier, because it's such an old cliche that it
just doesn't fit. If you don't think that Green Bay

(52:04):
or Tampa or the Rams, who you said were really
close to beating them on the road last year in
the Divisional series, if you don't think they're hungry, If
you don't think Josh Allen and Buffalo is hungry, you
don't think Lamar Jackson and Baltimore is hungry.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I know it's on the other.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Side because eventually, that's what we're trying to think.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Eventually, that's what you're trying to get to.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
We heard that all the time in baseball.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
You don't think the Toronto Blue Jays what they just
experience makes them hungrier, or what Seattle experience blowing the
three to two series lead. It doesn't make them hungrier.
If you don't think the Brewers having the best record,
or you don't think the Yankees are going to spend
or the Red Sox are going to spend, you don't
think they're hungry. Stop with the cliches that our team
got here so next year it's linear. We've got to

(52:48):
get to the next level because we're hungry after that experience.
There's a lot of teams that have had that experience.
They haven't been able to kick that damn door down.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
Everybody has a why. Everybody has a why, and guess
what I'm on. Ros Saint Brown's why, Jared Goff's why,
Pinatsules why, Jack Campbell's why. Go down the list of
Liones players. Their why is no greater than Josh Allen,
Kean Coleman, Joey Bosa. It's no greater than the Eagles,
or the Rams, it's no greater. It's about who takes

(53:18):
that why and who put Who locks it in, Who
locks in that discipline, Who locks in that film study,
Who locks in not making the same mistake twice, Who
locks into the mental errors of the game, Who locks
into the confidence of now this is who we are,
this is what we're gonna be.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Why did Washington quote unquote want it more than Detroit
last year? It's not that they wanted to play cleaner football.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Clean football right on the road. They played clean football.
They put you in a situation you weren't expecting, and
then now it was on you.

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We're gonna tip our toes into a nation old person
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Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Me yeah, I'm I'm telling you man, I'm I am.
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Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Anything else in the chat before we play the Dan
Campbell sound to try and make your chat out man.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
I think realistically, I think the chat has they've had
any emotional spin as it relates to Thursday to Friday,
thinking about whatever is going to possibly happen, to losing
Sunday to being outraged to now being calm. I think
the chat as well as line fans, I think they're
just in a situation trying to relax and makes sense

(01:03:30):
of it. I don't think anybody's even up in arms
right now. Now, it's just relaxing and let's just see
how it is, because that's what the Lions have kind
of cult in the house, aware conditioned us to be
in near five years of been existing this particular regime. Hey,
you know what, We'll have to see how this plays out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Do you think a win over Washington Nope, settles fans
angst down at all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
No, And I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Anybody plays
in the league. You make it to the NFL, you
deserve to be there. You get a chance to start
in the NFL. It says something about you. This is
something about your journey, especially when you're Heisman Trophy winner, etcetera, etcetera.
With that being said, this team is nowhere near what
the Detroit Lions are. In my book, there's no way
that the Lions coming to this game and lose, so

(01:04:15):
in knowing that like a win does nothing. Whether that's
fair or not. Life isn't fair. A win doesn't do
anything for the Detroit Lions against this Washington commander's team.
A loss, on the other hand, loss, on the other hand,
would be detrimental like a win unfair win does nothing,
but a loss like they able to lose to this

(01:04:36):
Washing Commandit because I've watched him play unfortunately a couple
of times, be it in primetime television, being when they
don't have their quarterback, even with Jaydon Daniels, they didn't
play particularly well. They lost their star receiver that that
they This is why you pay people. This is why
you pay players. Pay Terry McLaurin, like you knew what
type of receiver he was. Pay Terry McLaurin. You get

(01:04:59):
him in the camp, you get the thing rock and roll.
You know he showed up in the plus, you don't
pay him. Now he misses advocate. Now you're trying to
rush him in there. He gets hurt and he tweaks
the same injury that he hurt. Little things like that, Okay,
And I know it's a nitpick.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
No, I think it's a fair example. My immediate thought
is I blame I'm not gonna do I blame the
organization or do I blame the player. I oftentimes it's
here there you know, I'm blaming coach and I blaming player.
It seems like sometimes we have a tendency to give
the player. My hope is that player is taking care

(01:05:32):
of his body when he's in camp, not participating right,
And that's the assumption.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
I like Terry McLaurin. I think is a really good player.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
I do. But to lay it all on the organization,
it's it's because the organization hasn't done things properly in
the past. It is under different ownership. They did enough
last year to do things right and upset Detroit. I
wonder about that. Some point, we can't sit here.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
And talk about all the great things that the Lions
organization doing being the model, but then try to use
that model for someone else and now blame that player.
They should have took care of Terry McLaurin, because Terry
McLaurin has given everything to that organization, much like I'marron
Saint Brown has done for the Lions. And if you
know that, and he showed up in fact, I know
one place he showed up last year in the playoffs.
But I digress. Pay the man, get him in camp,

(01:06:17):
eat into this process as opposed to like I've been
I've been out of camp and then had to come
back with a week to get ready for a game.
Like it's taxing. It doesn't matter what you're doing because
you're not simulating exactly what the moves are. You're not simulating,
you know, like going through a game the game concept.
So sometimes it's tough. I mean, we went off on
a too minion tangent about Terry Lauren, but this is

(01:06:38):
what the Lions do, and the Lions are on the model.
Terry McLaurin is no different than A'marron Saint Brown as
it relates to him being there and not having any
issues his time with the Washington Commanders and then they
still paid him.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Yeah, and in the end they do okay uh, and
you would think that does matter, especially when he's this
important piece to them as possible. Dan Campbell had this
to say about everybody's frustration regarding the trade deadline.

Speaker 18 (01:07:07):
Go ahead, I ever take a f and picks approach
and just get multiple picks up for high impact, high
intensity players because lot of fans are thinking about that.

Speaker 10 (01:07:20):
Well, I think that, man, if it was if everything
about it was right. You know, when you start talking
like that, like throw all the picks away, that's you know,
that's that's a lot. I mean, it's a lot of capital,
especially with the guys that we've got that we're signing,
and we want to continue to sign to keep what
we have intact. You know, now you're not only you're
throwing the picks, you're also you got to pay that

(01:07:42):
player too, probably Otherwise, why are you throwing all the
picks at a guy that you're buying for a year
and so then it it really kind of everything that
we plan for, you just might as well throw it
in the trash, you know. So, I don't want to
say never. There's not a never. I mean, look, brand
and I've had conversations about this. Isn't like we just
say well what if now? No, we're not even going
to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
We talked about everything we do. We sit there and
I mean we've done We've thought about that before, what
if we did this, this and this? I Mean, these
conversations come up, but he and I both agree that
that this is how we proceed, man, This is how
we go about our business, and we have a long
term approach but I'll never say never.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
We briefly touched on this yesterday, and uh not that
I'm trying to put words in in Dan Campbell's mouth. Okay,
he handles himself very well, very professionally. We like him,
we believe in him. He's a good coach. That said,
when you say this is our approach, it's a little
troubling I think for Detroit sports fans, not just Lions fans,

(01:08:45):
but I mean Detroit sports fans. This is what we
I alluded to yesterday. You agreed with it. The constant
verbiage we get from Steve Eisman, Scott Harrison, Dan Campbell
is in so many words, whether us. We know what
we're doing. We're building long term, We're building something good here, Hi,
Steve Mariucci. They are looking towards the future. I'm not

(01:09:08):
saying you don't. You don't play in a hyperbolic chamber
and just play for one year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
But I think I think Detroit sports.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Fans are getting a little tired of the Hey, you
know what, We're trying to make the playoffs for more
than just one year. We're trying to make the opportunity
to win a championship more than one year when you
start winning those, then tell us that because you haven't
done that yet, that's the problem we're having.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
Yeah, I think FTHM picks. I'm not going to say
you have to be f those picks, but I think
there's a time and a place. I think there's a
time and a place. I think and when you look
at that, sometimes people don't look at through the right lens.
Ah Man, I would never, well, look check this out.
When the Los Angeles Rams did that, they did that
in the space to where you know, I got my quarterback,
got my defensive tackle, have a wire receiver. I'm pretty
sure I got.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
The We have what we need.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
We're not gonna need necessarily these picks in that space
for a couple of years. We got Jalen Rams. We've
got so we're good. We can do this format and
it'll work. Force. Look at the Coats. The Coats concept
right now is, look, yeah, they gave up two first
rounders for sauce Gardeners, but their thoughts are we got
our quarterback. He's gonna be on a similar situation as
Baker Mayfield's first deal, where they're gonna have to pay.
It won't be a ton of money. It'll be some money.

(01:10:13):
But they got the quarterback, they got the running back,
they have all the wide receivers. They're not necessarily due
to pay anybody or they don't need to draft anybody
in these positions, so they have some wiggle room with
these first rounders. Sometimes you have wiggle room and you can't.
Sometimes you have wiggle room, and when that time comes
is when you got to strike. Is when you have
to be like, all right, cool, we can give up
this first round picker. We can give up this pick.

(01:10:35):
Because this is what it is like the Lions. You
cannot sit here and say you don't have picks to use,
but drafts Oni Vaki or Giovanni Manu or in it
Rakestraw or the list goes on.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Don't tell me or surrender three third rounds.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
Isaac Tesla, don't tell me, don't play them exactly. So
you can't do that. Excuse me. You can't say this
after you've done that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
You know, you bring up the Rams. It's a really
good point. They won the Super Bowl in twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
Two, and then they went right back to drafting.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
And then and then the following year they missed the playoffs. Okay,
there were some injuries. They lost some players. Aaron Donald's
a big deal, right, they.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Went forgot hurt, so he missed like more than half the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Season, right, So they went right back to drafting. Rovers
made right, made the Brandon Fisky.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
They made the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Playoffs okay and lost. They made the playoffs last year,
and like you said so much in Philadelphia, this year,
you consider them, if not the best in the NFC,
one of the best teams in the NFC, and they're
off to a really good start with a quarterback who
some people think is the MVP of the league.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Right now, I'm gonna take the Rams over Seattle because
at the end of the day, it comes down to that,
because when when, when, when it gets tight, when it
going gets when it going gets tough, I'm gonna take
Mats Stafford over Sam Darny.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
As Jared Verse said on the sidelines, I think it
was a couple of weeks ago when he was miked up.
Man Number nine is cold, right, So when you've got that,
you can rebuild. This is not the NHL or Major
League Baseball. The NFL is not that I know. In
Major League Baseball, you're drafting eighteen year olds or sometimes
out of college and they've got to go through a
process through the minor leagues. There aren't many guys like

(01:12:14):
Wyatt Langford who quickly get to the pros or a
Garrett Crochet who's the eleventh overall pick out of Tennessee
and he's playing that year. That's not very It doesn't
happen very often. Right, They did bothered me because he's
really good at Florida anyway. And then the same thing,
same thing with the NHL. Okay, you're drafting an eighteen
year old Dylan Larkin. Where is he gonna play? He's

(01:12:35):
not gonna start for the Detroit Red Wings in all likelihood.
Sometimes you know Maddy Bernier's there's a there's a shift
every once in a while.

Speaker 5 (01:12:43):
It was a grown man game. It takes a second
to integrate hockey. It takes a second integrate baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Yeah, you gotta really you gotta be really special to
be an eighteen year old playing in the NHL, in
the NFL because you have been groomed through college to
play against those large human beings with the speed and
the contact. Even though there's an adjustment, you can find
that adjustment quicker. You can expect guys to be immediate contributors.

(01:13:10):
You can rebuild in the NFL faster than just about
any other sport.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
So for a team to say.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
We're not going for it doesn't make a fan base
understand it any better because of all the things that
we've just talked about.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
No, it doesn't, and you're absolutely right, And I think
what that comes down to this is just me today.
Allow me, if you will talk about baseball, talk about hockey.
When you're eighteen years old. In baseball, you gotta go
out there and you got to hit Terry school, right.
You got to go out there and hit show Hey
or hit countless pictures. You got to go out there
and play the game. You and the team. When you're
eighteen years old and you're on the ice, you're playing

(01:13:48):
against everybody on the opposite team. You're playing against all
those grown men on that ice that will check your
little ass if you're not great like one hundred percent.
I remember saying the kid when he first thrown it,
he was so amazing, but guess what he was getting checked.
He was getting put in situations. But his greatness at
that age allowed him get over football. You really wan
on one like you really one on one with some help,

(01:14:08):
Like you can be a twenty one year old wide
receivers three years older in eighteen and you're one on
one out there with dbs and oh, by the way,
we got your help, and sad, we'll figure it out.
You're really playing kind of a team game in football baseball, man,
ain't nobody but you and that person on that mound.
In hockey, it's you and the other individuals your team.
But you out there and ice against grown men offense

(01:14:29):
and defense. So I think it's a lot harder to
integrate at an early age.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Bryce Harbor made his debut at age nineteen, prodigy. Yeah,
a little bit of a freak there. Maclin Celebrini made
his debut at eighteen in the NHL. Again, a little bit,
a little bit of a freak, Doc Gooden, Yeah, all
those things. There are exceptions to all these rules. I'm
just so they're not hard and fast. I'm just saying

(01:14:54):
in the NFL, you have a chance to break things
through a little bit faster if you get the right pie.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
That's facts, and that is actually facts.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
Okay, Doc's gonna join us coming up. But we speaking
of Matt Stafford. There there's a lot of people who
are and I know this bothers a lot of Lions fans.
Get over, yeah, get over exactly right. Really good article
in The Athletic and on Yahoo Sports the other day
on how Stafford is kind of defining the odds and

(01:15:24):
that he has been quote unquote perpetually underrated. He's still
a dude. Here's what some of the higher ups have said.
From one rival executive, I'm not at all surprised he's
playing at such a high level. He still has an
elite skill set. I'm actually more surprised when he doesn't

(01:15:44):
play well. From another executive, he's one of the most
underrated qbs ever. He's always been excellent. And from what
a third different executive, he's a dude. He's lost nothing
on his arm. The guy can sling it and his
mind is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
How much longer you think he can go solid?

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
Three years? You know?

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
So you look at what he's doing at the clip
this year, man, Like he's leading the league in touchdowns
at twenty one. Like, his percentages are some money among
some of the highest that he's had in his career.
And he just understands the game like Matt It's processing
much faster for him, like when you sit and watch
a mass Stafford game at this particular point, like he
knows he's three four steps ahead. You know, he's three

(01:16:29):
four steps Hea. He's operating like that, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
You feel that when you're in the huddle with a
guy like that, do you think.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Yeah, I've never I know, yeah, I've never been. I've
never been in a huddle like that with a guy.
But I did have one experience when I was in
the Pro Bowl and Peyton Manning was a quarterback, Like
I understood, Okay, this is what it looks like like. Legitimately,
he went through the play call like he was deciding,
talking about where everybody was going to go, telling them
this is what the cover is gonna be. Hey, look,

(01:16:54):
don't worry about that. Mar not Marvin, but uh it
was me and Reggie Wayne and Chad O Chosinko. He
was a Chad gonna see this right here. Look just
stay right there on the inside on that mess route
you take that. Hey, Broklyn, you got the overall on
Now I'm probably gonna come to you. Look late, it's
not gonna come quicker to probably come late, catch it,
run somebody over getting the end zone. Reggie, you'll be
my fellow safe on this play. This is the Pro Bowl,

(01:17:15):
mind you. And guess what happened on that play? Everything
exactly like he said. He threw it to me in
the late window.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
I called it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
He told me run somebody over the huddle. Guess what
I didn't do. I didn't run somebody over. I was
excited that I called a pass from Peyton Mann and
got tackled at the f and one yard line. But
that's what it looks like. And when he's in that
huddle and he has the guys, I go back.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
To that's a story.

Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
He called it out exactly what's gonna be. I caught
the over and then as soon as I get out
of the locker room, first thing my family says is,
why didn't you get an in zone? I was like,
because I didn't think Pete was telling the truth. I'm sorry.
But look at Matt Stafford's reaction to when Sean McVay
puts on that highlight tape of DeVante Adams when they're
in training camp. He's like, oh man, this dude is nice,

(01:18:00):
Like he never watched DeVonta Adams. Maybe he didn't, but
when he's watching Devanta Adams in his mind, He's like
he's going through the plays in which how he's going
to use him on the back side of the pook
and the cool stuff when they're going to be on
the same side. How this is going to affect Kyra
Williams coming out of the backfield and Tyler Taylor. Excuse me, Hickby,
Like this is what's going through his mind. It doesn't

(01:18:20):
matter about what you believe about his first eleven years
in the NFL. Like even in those eleven years, you
knew he was talented, then you knew he had a
big arm every game. After they lose to the Green
Bay Packers, who was the first person up to Matt
Stafford to tell him how great he was? That be
Aaron Rodgers. And now he got into a space he's
never the only thing about the Lions thing, I don't
ever think they had an offensive coordinator really doubt into

(01:18:41):
who Matt Stafford was, Like that's what I think. He
never had a guy that they bought in because they
were going to be on the same page, same rhythm,
and he was going to help Matt be the best
version of himself and vice versus you get with Sean
McVay one that's cheating. Well, you know what, Hey, fine,
he's with Sean McVay. They've dialeded and in the same
age their buddies, and he's created space for Matt Stafford

(01:19:02):
to feel confident enough like, Nah, I am him. I
did go one overall for a reason. I have beat
Brady in the NFC Championship throwing a touchdown pass to
go to the Super Bowl in which I also won
that Super Bowl. Once you get that type of energy
and you have people that still believe it, he's the
man in.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
LA and he loves Davante Adams. He's targeted seventy times,
that's thirteenth most in the NFL. To put that in perspective,
I'm an Ross Saint Brown's been targeted seventy four times
and Davante Adams has been targeted seventy times, second to
punt Cool And.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
That's what I was about saying. Guess what, that ain't
even number one on his team. So when you look
at what Stafford is doing, he's unlocked that next level.
Whether it was the Super Bowl win, whatever it was,
he unlocked it. Get over it, Get over what happened
eleven years ago. He is operating. He's in that space
like who's playing better at the quarterback position than Matt
Stafford with the exception of if you want throw Sam
Darnod out there, and that's fine, but who do you

(01:19:55):
believe in? Like when you watch Stafford throw no look
passes the first couple times, it's cute in twenty twenty one.
Now is a cute anymore? Now you like, damn, that's him.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Well in twenty twenty one, especially people in the trail, like,
I can't believe he's doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
That's ridiculous. Now Patrick Mahomes does it everything. It's the bomb.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Oh my god, this dude start doing it a long
time ago. And Aaron Rodgers did it before him.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
Okay, so he's just in the space where and now
you give him pooka Nicole and now he has Devanta
adams Man and he reworked that system. They had two
running backs.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
I was gonna say, you like their running backs.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
When they're not fumbling. I do like them a lot.
I do like them when in that fumble because Blake
is Blake is what he Blake is what he needs
to be. He's a physical running back who also can
run between the tackles. He could do a little bit
more than your typical backup running back.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
He's not gonna run away from anybody, but he'll.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Not even first down.

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
He would before the first two injuries. Yeah, but he
messed the ankle up and he messed that knee up
his junior and senior year at Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Yeah, don't don't kid yourself though.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
A big reason why he's successful because of that defense
you brought up, Jared versus their defense is really really good.
It's what I love most about football. Okay, I make
can't I meet. I can't stand some of the people
who run it and the rules that are associated with it.
But what I love most about it is the purest
of team sports.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
There is I.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
Need you, you need me. He needs Devonte Adams like
Davante Adams needs him.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
It looks like they need your OD versus that defense.
And the reason why I works to the defense. We
were talking about being on before the show started in
a different in a different connotation, but being on when
your defense is that good, like the Eagles have been
over the years, like the Rams are now, like the
Bucks have been in the last coup. When your defense
is good, you don't have to be on every series.

(01:21:34):
It gives you a couple of series to you know,
what is a bad pass.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Don't have to be perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
You don't have to be perfect, but you're not gonna
have too many blimishes. You know, if you're mad Stafford
Baker Mayfield the way he's playing, like Jalen Hurt's in
the playoffs, maybe if you want to go the route,
but you don't have to be perfect. That's what that
defense allows you to do. If you don't have that,
like Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's got everything he has on.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Offense, He's got to score every time he's at the ball, which.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
As pressing, which as pressure is like if I don't
those touchdowns, come on, please catch? You don't catch in
that like. So that's what allows to do is not
to press every single series you can have. You can
have a series of two or three off.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
Yeah, for defenses, I look at points per game, and
you can gain as many yards as you want between
the twenties, but whether or not you get in the
end zone points and the Rams are just to Braylan's point,
the Rams are number two in the league. Kansas City's
number three Denver's number four. Seattle is number five.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
I wonder what Denver would be in the first three quarters,
because boy, they score all their points in the fourth.
Yeah yeah, every game they're averaging twenty points in the fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
Yeah. I was talking about their defense though, I'm referring
to their defense.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Yeah, so their defense doesn't give them any point period.
But you notice all those quarterbacks they've talked about, Sam Darnold,
Matthew Stafford, bow Knicks and bow Knicks has been pretty
good and scoring late, especially like you said, and Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
What is what they've done.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Those guys are all being mentioned at MVP. They all
have really good scoring defenses.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
Yeah, I want him saying, like, if you're Sam Donald,
what does that look like if you're down ten? Like, now,
what does that game look like in the first half,
down ten or in the third quarter? But the defensive
playout standing like what they had to do last year
and then now it looks like a different Sam Darnold
Like and that's what happened with the Daniel Jones situation.
For look, we gave him all the kudos and just
give him a little bit of something I saw. It

(01:23:17):
seems as though the Pittsburgh Steelers and excuse Mike Tomlin.
They say, look, Jonathan Taylor, I don't give At the
end of the day, we will make sure that Jonathan
Taylor is not winning this game for We put it
all on Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones, go be the guy
everybody keeps saying you are, Like, if you're that good,
all right, cool, Let's take away Jonathan Taylor. They took

(01:23:39):
away Jonathan Taylor, and it looked a lot rougher for
Daniel Jones.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Can I bring that closer to home? Please take away
David Montgomery And how challenging is that?

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
That's that's that's tough.

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updated on the injuries of at least in this situation,
the Detroit Lions. I could ask you about Patrick Kane.
He'll be back pretty soon, so that's a possibility. But
let's focus on the Lions first and foremost. The Lions
have started the twenty one day practice window from Miles Fraser.

(01:29:55):
Miles Fraser is a fifth round draft pick the rookie
uh is expected to help this team within the next
I don't know, three to four weeks. You get him decide.
The question is he's been dealing with the knee injury
that he suffered back in May. Doc So that's a
long time to try and get healthy. What has been

(01:30:19):
the delay for.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Miles Fraser first and foremost?

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
And knowing that a guy who's gonna be playing guard,
what's the stress on that knee.

Speaker 19 (01:30:26):
Injury that I don't know?

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Man, let me go ahead, you use use me in
the meantime.

Speaker 13 (01:30:38):
We can, we can talk. We're really running.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
There we go, there, we go, all right?

Speaker 19 (01:30:44):
So basically, yeah, I mean these with guards. I mean
that that's the whole issue. You know, where is his power?
Is he gonna be able to sustain power? And you
get a lot of force through your knees. So did
he have a complete didn't have surgery, didn't have anything
like that. He's just rehabbing. So rehabbing with how he
was talking May. So what are we at? We're at
ten you know worth the fi five to six months

(01:31:06):
is really where you should be recovered and ready to go.

Speaker 5 (01:31:09):
Okay, So why is this slower?

Speaker 13 (01:31:12):
Maybe he didn't want the secret sauce.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Okay, everybody's different, right, Okay, I got you.

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
Doc. There was a there was a horrible injury on
uh maybe not horrible. I think that's rather but it
was bad looking injury this past Monday night, and he
concerned ding dangs on the Washington commanders talk about the
dislocated elbow situation that was that like, how does that work?
What's the process like to repair that? Because it looked nasty?
But then he walks off the field. You don't know,

(01:31:39):
like what's that process like for him?

Speaker 19 (01:31:41):
So, I mean the biggest thing is one you know,
we've talked about this. I talked about it earlier today,
is are the forces just getting so crazy? Are we
out out doing the body? We find the limits of
the human body. I mean, we've had three terrible dislocations
what I mentioned before. I mean you got the ankle
and with the giants, you got hills injury with the knee,

(01:32:04):
now you got an elbow age. Do you remember anytime
three dislocations where they're not being popped out, they're being
fully dislocated. You know, it's like mma type of thing.
So I'm pushing which I mentioned earlier today on The
big d is that are we finding the limits of
the human body with vector forces? And you're starting to

(01:32:27):
see this overall. So overall, I think we're finding the
human limitations right that the body can't withstand all these
power press that we're stronger or faster, you're going at
different speeds. When you talk about football, you talk about
collision injuries, We've always said two players hitting each other,

(01:32:47):
it is like two cars seeing each other at seventy
miles an hour. I think I would increase the speed
limit to about eighty five. So here you're seeing some
elbow stuff that we're talking about. So again it's a
ball in joints. Everything falls into a groove, so it's
not a true ball and socket, like it is't the shoulder,
but you can see that the elbow is one large

(01:33:08):
bone from the shoulder down to the elbow, and then
the two bones the owner and the radios, so they
all fit in there. What's exciting, what's concerning is there's
so much anatomy around there. So when you have a
full dislocation, you have a full dislocation a level three
versus just a simple popping out of joint. That thing
was twisted in the wrong direction. To do that, you

(01:33:30):
have to disrupt all this anatomy. Okay, we can get
into all the muscles and the ligaments, but you start
thinking like a pitcher, a baseball pitcher, everything he has
to worry about to get that organized for him to
throw the ball. Granted it's everybody's it's his left elbow.
It's not his throwing arm. It's still part of your body.

Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
Mechanics though, yeah, it's the mechanics.

Speaker 19 (01:33:53):
It throws you off. He has to recover from a
fully torn tissues. For lack of better terms, you're looking
at the joint was fully disrupted. You can't like when
people say, oh, my shoulder popped out of socket. That's
going from here to here. This is going from here
to all the way out.

Speaker 13 (01:34:13):
To get all the way out, you have to tear
through all this anatomy.

Speaker 19 (01:34:16):
So, like I predicted, I can't remember the running backs
name for the Giants. You know, I'm predicting the scataboy
is going to have a longer recovery than Hill because
of all the extra anatomy, even though it's a smaller joint. Okay,
but now the elbow, granted it's left, is he coming.

Speaker 13 (01:34:35):
Back this year.

Speaker 19 (01:34:35):
No, he's not coming back this year unless something freaky
happened and he's gonna be what's going on with it?

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
Not what's going on? Like, what is it with the
Washington Redskins now the Washington excuse? The Washington Redskins turn
Washington football team, turn Washington Commanders. Where Alex Smith did
the exact same thing that Joe Daysman did, the exact
same time, the exact same field. You can say what
you want to true And once again r G three

(01:35:03):
and Jade Daniels, same position, same yard line, same time
in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Exact same not the same same opponents.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
Same opponent, not the same injury. But these are crazy
to have two on the same franch it'd be different.
It was all right here you have one the Giants
they got two. As I won't play. I won't play
quarterback for them. I've passed no, thank.

Speaker 13 (01:35:25):
You, you'll skip certain games. I don't know. Do they
need a cleansing?

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
I mean that's a grass field too, say, I mean,
that's the weird thing about it. You and I have
talked about the synthetic turf and what they're using now
and how it hurts the body, does it surprise you
a little bit more that it's on a grass field.

Speaker 19 (01:35:44):
The turf, there's like I said when we talked about
the turf, there's pros and constant ege. Right, the turf,
you know, it's human, it's it's natural, so you have
different things going on where the artificial stuff you can
pretty much predict what you're going to have underneath. The
grass is more natural and it's human factors play a role.

Speaker 13 (01:36:08):
But that that's not mean it is it just bad luck?

Speaker 19 (01:36:10):
Do they need a you know, a medicine man to
come in there and cleanse the whole area.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
I'm bad.

Speaker 19 (01:36:16):
Yeah, it's bad juju. I mean no, there's no correlation
other than other than that, we can go back to
what were the acl injuries or the Achilles injuries.

Speaker 13 (01:36:28):
They were all wearing pink.

Speaker 19 (01:36:29):
Shoes and there was a correlation in basketball and stuff
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
So she's crazy man man for that organization.

Speaker 19 (01:36:38):
Yeah, it's it's bad luck for them. I mean, I
want to go off and maybe we'll talk more different
shows that what what are the limits are we finding
the limits do we have? Has medical science sports science
got to such a level that we're looking at how
to make you bigger and faster. But we're not looking
at your genetics, right. I used an example before of

(01:37:00):
our corn bread you know, Midwest boys from from Nebraska
and stuff. I was big genetic bones. I mean, I mean,
not to pick on you, but you're genetically large, you know,
thank you, And some of these guys coming out are
working on less genetic gifted. Right, you're seeing smaller guys.

(01:37:23):
You're seeing like smaller ankles, things that you're putting so
much force. There's not a natural balance of the body
to accept that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
We didn't talk about this. What were your thoughts on
dan Quinn keeping him any game? Is it a damned
if you do, damned.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
If you don't. Yeah, I think it is. I mean, look,
I mean, usually who am I talking to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
I'm talking to a professional.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
They come out when when you're winning, you want to
keep playing when you're losing. But but I didn't see
a purpose for keeping him in at the seven minute
mark when you're down that much. It's easy to say
that now. It's it's also one of those situations. I'm
sure Jayden Danie, it's like, we'll tell you do the man.
I want to stay in the game.

Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
That's fine. My only concern is this dan Quinn the
older coach, like one, this quarterback has a history of
being injured. Like your quarterback just got injured last season. Yeah,
your quarterback is injured this year like it. And this
is a very very very very very important position. That's
the NFL. And you got a guy like why I

(01:38:24):
get it getting extra reps? Are these reps that you're
going to get in the seven minuma? Are these really
valuable to the very next game that you're going to play?

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
He fell on the sword, which I guess every head
coach should do. You got a capable backup. It doesn't
mean you want to play him. But yes, I hear
exactly what you're saying. I that's a fine line. I
get all that, and I think you're right.

Speaker 19 (01:38:43):
I got a quick question classic Monday Monday football quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Well, I think a lot of people said it at
the time.

Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
So there's a really clock game you're now on TV.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
You're not playing, Well, there's just a there's I just
don't get when you're down that much and there's I
think there was about seven minutes in teen seconds left
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
I mean, he is driving him. Do you take him out?

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
On the drive, dan Quinn said, on the next possession
he was coming out. So I'm like, okay, well that's
the next persion. What's the point of being in there.
I think he left him in there because they were
driving and was getting close to a touchdown. Let me
ask you about Jade and Ivy real quick Pistons played
a night against the Jazz. Tobias Harris has a right
ankle sprain. He's out. Marcus Sasser, he's got the right

(01:39:25):
hip problem.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
He's out.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
Jade and Ivy has a right knee arthroscopic he's out
with with Ivy. How long does arthroscopic knee surgery keep
a guy out? Number one and number two with a
right hip impingement is Marcus Sasser? What does that mean.

Speaker 19 (01:39:46):
To take the knee? First of all, the scope A
lot of times it's a scoping is you want to
clean up what's going on. So they want to get
in there to take a look. That means there's no
major damage.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
They're going.

Speaker 19 (01:39:56):
Like I always say, there's ligaments, like fraying of the ligaments.
It's like that in your hair. If you kind of
cut them off and create healthier tissue and it heals faster.
If there's a little bit of a bone spur in there,
a bone chip in there, a little fragments, they'll go
and clean it out. Okay, So that's a lot of
times when you start talking about those guys can be
back in two weeks, two to four weeks typically, depending

(01:40:18):
on how much they do. There's not a lot of manipulation.
It's not like you're repairing anything. It's not like you're
repairing the meniscus. You're usually just cleaning up the rough edge,
just smoothing things out right.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
So thus the four week prognosis, okay, gotcha all right.
And about the hip impingement.

Speaker 19 (01:40:34):
The hip impingement means that there's so the hip is
a ball and socket joint again, so when you're talking
about impingement, it means it's moving in such a way
that it's a little bit out of joint. So you
want a lot of times with the impingement, you're kind
of closing off.

Speaker 13 (01:40:50):
When you do certain movements.

Speaker 19 (01:40:52):
So like normal joints here and then this is like
just sliding out a little bit. So as you move here,
like the big thing like we can do with the
shoulder when the solar comes up, you're impinging in between
the bones because there's lack of integrity. So one is
it lack of integrity because he's got a small laborial tear.
What's going on? Sometimes it becomes, hopefully just an inflamed

(01:41:13):
tendant that's too fat to fit into the joint.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Gotcha, that's what we hope for them. That's a good explanation.
Appreciate that very much.

Speaker 13 (01:41:21):
Do we have the thing for my uncle?

Speaker 5 (01:41:23):
Yes, yes we do.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
We do.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
What you play that?

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Now?

Speaker 13 (01:41:30):
What's that?

Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
Would you like to play?

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
Then?

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
Now we could I explained what this is that?

Speaker 13 (01:41:35):
So you remember Warren Pierce.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
I know Warren. Ye, Warren is unfortunately Yeah, Warren, sorry,
sorry for your loss. Yeah, good man, longtime radio guy
w j R. And a lot of other places. Brought
a lot of joy to a lot of listeners and
viewers over the years.

Speaker 19 (01:41:51):
Yeah, yeah, huge following. So that was my uncle. He
passed away so emotional. They say, part of my world
here he takes credit for it. Now I've gotten better
at it. But when I started out, he goes, you
need to get better on the air and the way
you present.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
And you you're no Warren Piers, You're no Warren.

Speaker 19 (01:42:09):
P that's you know, everybody knows closely there's no Warren Piers.
But to his credit, he you know, he did everything.
It was on the sidelines of u of M. For
I don't know if he was there for almost forty
plus years, he definitely was when I was there. Oh yeah,
so from w J R. From the royal wedding. I mean,

(01:42:29):
he's just done a lot of great things. So you know,
I got to do a shout out to him because
it's just close family and I just it leads into
I coined the Rolling Stones factor, meaning guys that just
don't do it Like I sit here and I talk
about prevention right and doing everything right. Then there's other
guys out there like Mick Jagger and Keith Richards that

(01:42:52):
do everything wrong, and there's just like I call him,
the cockroaches.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
Of the humans.

Speaker 19 (01:42:56):
It works, it works, and Warren was kind of one
of the in between. Never did anything right, didn't eat
it right, but he lived a good, healthy life.

Speaker 13 (01:43:06):
Do you have that low tribute?

Speaker 5 (01:43:07):
Yes, sir, all right, go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
YO.

Speaker 8 (01:43:18):
Listening to the Warren't here shut on News Talk seven WJ.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
And Eric Bruce. I don't know if you ever remember
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Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Jim deflue what we did.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
It's a cool Chicago returning to the stage, Stars, Broadway,
Actor TV game.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
That's well done a guy who did news and sports,
which is not always an easy thing to do.

Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
No it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:43:59):
Yeah, credit to him and a tribute. Well done by
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Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
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Speaker 19 (01:44:49):
I think we've made a lot of difference in a
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Speaker 5 (01:44:59):
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years in a row, gone to show as well as
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Speaker 5 (01:52:29):
I never follow that. That means that they're trying to
encourage you to keep a good aesthetic for what pictures
in the whole nine will look like afterwards. So that's
more so what they want. Do you have to wear it?
Absolutely not, but what they prefer you to sure like
the only time I even pay attention to themed parties
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and this is what the theme is, fine, I'll try
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Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
Yet outside of that, I want a new segment.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
I'm not going to the theme. I'm not dressing up
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I want a new segment once a week. And ready,
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Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
It is. It's rules I have to talk to anytime
we do something you know big, a Halloween party or
a Christmas party, or you know some type of baby
shower or whatever. My wife knows all the rules. You
have X amount of time to deliver a wedding gift
and I didn't know that. I thought you had to

(01:53:31):
bring one, yea, I think, she says, yeah, I think
it's something close to that. All right, a month.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
I was going to say about four weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:53:39):
Right, Brailan's Rules would be a really good segment on
something like this. What's the rule, Brailen, Well, if it's
around the holidays, this is what I do. So you
just clarified it for me, because this is a holiday
event and I need to wear either white or silver.

Speaker 5 (01:53:55):
But I also think too, that you can mix both elements.
I think there's an element of.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Two things can be true.

Speaker 5 (01:54:01):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
There's two elements to it. One is you don't have
to wear exactly what the flyer says, like the fact
that you're considering and you're putting on some form of white.
Now that form of white and silver has to be
comfortable for you, and that's how you do. I'm a
go I'll do something along those lines, but I'm still
gonna be comfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
So it's Braylan's rules. I like that very much. Can
we just dive into this real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
Coolad?

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
You got it? Steve Phillips, who does a pretty good
job in the morning on MLB Radio and on occasion
does MLBtv. The hot topic in baseball, and it's gonna
be in Detroit. It was all last year and it's
gonna be the same thing this year. Is the soon
to be Cy Young Award winner last year's triple crown winner,
Tiger of the Year, Pitcher of the Year by MLBPA,

(01:54:51):
and he's gonna win the Cy Young again. He'll be
the first American League Cy Young Award winner since Pedro
Martinez in nineteen ninety nine. In two thousand, Derek School,
this is what Steve Phillips had to say about what
the we don't have that? No, oh, okay, Well, Steve
Phillips said, there's going to be a trade between the

(01:55:11):
Tigers and the Mets, and basically it's members of the
Mets who are They have a little bit of experience
under their belt, except for Brett Baty, who's a third baseman,
has a little bit of power eighteen bombs this year,
but also strikes out. And then you have a weak
hitting utility infielder and two power right handed arms. Neither

(01:55:35):
one of them is deep in experience and looked great
this year. Okay, only one of them are a top
one hundred prospect in all of baseball. Tigers have four
top one hundreds, the Mets have four, but only one
of these guys qualifies as part of this deal. I
don't understand why we're seeing a lot of analysts and

(01:55:57):
this guy's link is even though he's from the city Detroit,
is from you A d you went is a cub
Okay shout out, even though seven mon Cherry line, there
you go why in the world he thinks it's gotta
be the Mets is probably because he's connected.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
To the Mets.

Speaker 4 (01:56:13):
If I said to you, Trek Schoubel would bring back
two young pitchers, but unproven, one with a seven seventy
and three games this year small sample size, a light
hitted utility and fielder with no pop and another guy
who has a slug under four and a batting average

(01:56:33):
about two fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
Do you think that's enough for Terrek.

Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
Schoobl No, and don't try to just do a deal
just so you the infamous line get back something like
the right deal is also important to me, Like if
you're not going to get something for a terror school
and let it, let it play out. Let it play
just let it play out, Like, don't trade them he
let it play out. See what happens in the twenty
twenty six season. Let that thing play out. Don't trade
this man for a bag of peanuts. And then twenty

(01:56:56):
years from now we're talking about the peanuts that we
received for Terry School, who we knew what he was
going to be when he went on. Agree like we
did for JD.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
Martinez, and just.

Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
So no, don't just do it to do it, because
then it's going to be a conversational piece. I just
let it play out.

Speaker 12 (01:57:09):
They've got Jake Rodgers out of one of those, it's
pretty good.

Speaker 5 (01:57:12):
Who wanted to go? Who wanted to go to glow
Is Jake Rogers?

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (01:57:16):
Dylan England?

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
One was the finalist the other one one it?

Speaker 4 (01:57:19):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:57:20):
I make that joke with my dad.

Speaker 20 (01:57:21):
I'm messing with Okay, Yeah, in our neighborhood, we u
we sit in one of our neighbors, Groadge and watch
all the Tigers game and that's probably the biggest Jake
Rodgers hate fan club or hate club ever.

Speaker 4 (01:57:32):
So it's not Unfortunately, it's not on Jake Rogers, right,
I mean quite honestly, I think all three prospects from
Houston that you got were service top thirteen in their
farm system. I believe that's what it was. Can you
name the other two who were part of it, Zach mckanston, No,
I'm messing with Franklin Perez, Das Cameron and Das Camp Right, yep.

(01:57:58):
So it's those two and addition to Jake Rogers. Now
here's a bonus for you. Can you name any of
the three players in the JD. Martinez deal I tapped out.
No dal Well Lugo, Candle, are you in there? No
Dowell Lugo nope, Jose King Nope, nope. Yeah, and one

(01:58:22):
other player whose name I've forgotten and it's not worthy
to remember. All right, I want to thank doctor Jeffrey Pierce.
Want to thank you for joining us here on the
Brilin Edwards Show. We appreciate it. As always, we're back
with your Martians night.

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What are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
They will blow out the jazz, they will blow out
the jazz, and hopefully we'll talk a little bit about
that because you got some guys playing really well, and
we'll do that on the Brailen Edwards Show tomorrow here
on Woodward Sports starting at two o'clock.

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