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Let's go.
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We're trying to get KG to stick around.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
He's got his own favorite shows and he decided, you
know what, We're gonna just say.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
He's got he got The.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Morning and he's got the he's got big D energy.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
He doesn't want to be part of this and he's like,
I've got a life.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I think you like I'm tapped out?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Is what he said.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
He I don't look like him, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yeah, I'm just I'm just wait, do I I hope? Yeah,
that's what he's doing right now. He's just tapping out.
He's like a big boy at a buffet. I've had
enough and you're done.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
The name. Remember on a Sunday.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
How many Tuesdays, but how many people got sucked into
I'm gonna have a bunch of roles in salad first.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
That's how they get you. So you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That's big money right here, that's a big money.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
No, it's funny. I went there as an adult. No,
we used to lie about the age getting with the
one on the quarter. No, it was it was seeing flat.
It was not the same you as an adult, You're like,
what is this chicken.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Time?
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Ricky?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Stop? I still miss chicken.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, that's not what the hell is it?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Ricky?
Speaker 8 (02:22):
You had a party back in the day, like when
you're in college, high school, whatever. Back in the day,
Pondoros was the move get fifty wings for like twenty.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Five thirty wings for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (02:34):
That was the one right every hey listen, every event.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Birthday, I said nowadays to pay to get there.
Speaker 9 (02:42):
And then it was back in cheese and that's right.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
We used to go to the big when you sit
in forty five minutes, like the family size.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You got poke holes in the plastic spoke. I couldn't cook.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That sounds really really good. What's the one place?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
If you said you went there, people would look at
you and almost laugh in a good way, in a
bad way, like dude, save some money and go someplace else.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Depends on what was it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I don't want to be too offensive to people who
like these places or the places in general, but there
is one particular place and I actually used to work.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, no, no, no, that's just two years ago.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Then it came back. But okay, they laugh at you.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
They would shake their head. There's no like there's two places.
No way could you get us? That's one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That is one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Well played.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
It reminded me of franken Move. Remember going up to
franken Move. Everybody's like, you gotta go to Zenders. You
gotta go to Zenders. You go to Browner Brothers, you
go to birch Run and then afterwards you go to Zenders,
which is in franken Move village and you wait two
and a half three hours for the driest chicken you
ever taste in your life, Like, that's.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
What I hate. I get it. I'm with a.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
House and it resembled the house resembles a different kind
of house from back in.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
The day with bread, and I think it's really overrated.
You've got to go to the.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
You gotta think about where it's at.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
It's in frank like, there's nothing, there's no seasoning out
in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Then that makes it over rated.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Are all around, Like I'll.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Take chicken shack over that one.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Chicken.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Did you ever eat chicken King Farmers?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And you know you know why? I know we're chicken.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Oh yeah, O my god.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
The other one signing beef carvers one Okay, that's one.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Okay, anybody I retired, I got one.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
You were dead on there, red red lobster. That was
that was viewed as dude, makes some more money. You
you're gonna eat that food. And I worked there in
college as to pay for my way through college. And
I saw them like is there enough Greece in here?
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I'm a black ladder in the middle because I have
a shelf vitality. So I've never been in real life.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, but yourself fortunate.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
In the black community, graduation parties and Beyonce even take
her man in real life.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
She does not live in the ocean.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
When she's someplace, she'll go down to Italy before she'll
go to herself.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
She shouldn't do anything herself.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Red lobster, I will speak to you. I will say
this as a black staple. It is a black staple.
People are gonna jump you, but I actually tend to
agree with you on this one. I'm not agreeing because
you and I were doing this thing together. No, I
think black Black livester is over. I think red lobster,
that's what we call it.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Why is it?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Why is it the staple in the black community education.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I don't Again, I didn't go because it's bad.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It is bad. There's no way you go.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Trouble. To answer that question is to get in trouble.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
I just there's not necessarily back then affordable good seafood.
So I think it gave you a way to, you know,
go out get a seafood experience, even if it wasn't
a good and give you a seafood experience. And then
it turned into other things. It turns into the chart
of biscuits. It turned into the bottom of the salad,
It turns into the drink meat that they had for you,
and it just became a thing. Food wasn't good like
(06:28):
I went there as a kid. I agree with you,
I didn't necessarilyly like it.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
My suggestion has always been two things. Either find someplace
else or go without.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
There wasn't a lot of places that.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
The Detroit River. It would probably be better.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Something from I'd rather I'm good, I'd rather eat the treachers.
If were talking about the Detroit ver sign me up long,
John Silvers.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
If we're gonna do the Detroit River, I might as
well ticket planes couple.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
In the day.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I just know I'm just that much hennessy and right, Yeah,
that's that's it.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I didn't know Ricky would had is allergic to to
shelf Yeah, but you do fish.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You don't have to have shell.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I love fish.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
I'll eat salmon and whiting and stuff like that, but
just not shell fish and peanuts unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, well that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
The peanut algy was always there.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Is that always man, my whole life.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
What happened people? What happened?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Like, does your does your face blow? Up as big
as your ego.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
What happens?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
The restaurant asked me.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
He's like, you know, could you die? I'm like, I don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I've never died before.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
But yes, I get like a good you throat and
all that stuff, and yeah it's bad. They shoot you
full of full of steroids.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Man, So it is. It is really like hits then, like.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
And it's it's such I love I love food, so
anything I'm not allergic to all try but alerted to happen.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
He's not even lying. He came in here with like
the world's best brownie. It was like, b I need
you to try this because it could be peanut.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
I don't know. He was sitting there like I'm ready
to eat this. It was cold, you know when I
can't smell it good?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh you didn't ask Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah I couldn't.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Yeah, I didn't ask anybody. I had already came back.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I was like, wait, is Olive Garden on that list?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Since I haven't been there a long time.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
I would say, no, it's it's it's it's the Italian version.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I suppose. Look, they're let's try collapses on that list.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
So is out.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay, we can be.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
We can call our significant others out. Sometimes they can
be a little bit more restaurants snobbery.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, yeah, alright.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
So I took my son the other day to a
downtown Birmingham establishment for brunch.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So it was a birthday.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I wasn't gonna name, but sure, and they were only
three of us, no shout out, one hundred and ten dollars.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Yeah, well that's Birmingham.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Look, I'm not a cheap skate, but I'm just wait
a minute.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I had a waffle for crying out loud, My wife
had eggs.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
My son had an omelet one.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Hundred Birmingham though, that Birmingham waffle.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It's Birmingham right. When you when you look at.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
The surrounding areas in Birmingham, especially on that side, which technically.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Is this way, look at the cars.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I do.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Looking at the cars will let you know what you're
gonna spend. Like the average car in Birmingham is going
to be upwards of sixty five thousand, easy, like that
mean that sound like a lot?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That's a lot easy.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
The average car in Birmingham secret maybe more realistic, maybe
upwards of eighty five let's say eighty five, A lot
of porches, a lot of BMW's lot of.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Being five vets because we ate outside at least five
ves you want to see, you.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
See, that's what it's going to be. They have the
ability to charge that because people are they're trying to
get to Birmingham.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Oh right, yeah, and they just they want.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
To be there, like you know, I'm in Birmingham.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I had a buddy who lived in my neighborhood, really
nice house, but his wife wanted to walk to coffee
in Birmingham. So he said, all right, what do you
want to do about it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Let's sell the house. He had a pool, it was
really nice.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
He had a yard in Birmingham.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Bought a house in Birmingham, had to rip the house
all the way down to the studs. He said, do
it yourself for redid the entire thing, electrical plumbing, the
whole ball, right, And he says, you know how many
times my wife is flipping walk to coffee twice?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I could have told him that, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
You know what it is the fact that you perceive
that you're gonna do.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Yeah, you perceived Yeah, if I live in Birmingham and
I walked to dinner, and you know, we can actually
hang out and and we.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Don't have to drive. We don't have to worry about
this because we can just walk home.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Not just now how it happened. I don't care where
you live. You know a bunch of people live over here.
They all drive.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Or get it delivered.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Way cheaper?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
So he invites us over two weekends ago. He says, hey,
let's go out to dinner. We go to this place.
It's an Italian joint. I say it, the guy, what
do you recommend? He says, the lasaign is the best
lasign you'll ever have. And I said, okay, because right now,
the best lasign I've ever had is in Rome. Okay,
but the best lasigner I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And the guy, And the guy looks at me, well
that's a different level.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
And I said, you said the best, so I'll get it,
but it better be damn good.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It was pretty good. Stand on business ship.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I just think you, like, if you're going to an
Italian restaurant and I asked you, hey, you know, what
do you recommend? And the thing you recommend is like postive.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I'm not going to disbelieve what would you expect steaks?
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Just it doesn't have to be steak, no, no state.
But just give me something. Don't just say positively, give
me something. Explained it a different ways.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
I get what you're saying about. We have a you
know this croissant, with this, with this, a.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Thousand restaurants. We're out to dinner.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
We're out to dinner, and Ricky goes, do you have
a croissan? Love a cross?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Hey go a long way.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I'm still to this day, I'm very upset that Alexander
got rid of their honeycs Sons two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That's good food.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
By the way, Alexander's has been my consistent stables is
the first time I ate there. You asked me my
favorite restaurant, I will say Alexander.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because you've never been disappointed.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I've never been let.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
Down in Florida, New York, Michigan, all over the country.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Two thousand, nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
The first time I had Alexander, Yeah, and it still
has never let me down, outside of getting.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Rid of the biscuits.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Their baked potatoes are the size of a helmet. It's unreal.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
There's Caesar dressing. He's a dressing.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Their pasta soup is to die for. Sorry about the pasta,
but it's true.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The pasta snake pasta they used to have pretty good.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's pretty damn good too. Since yeah, that's a good
that's a really good call.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Alexander might be in my Wednesday future. I think it
was just.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Steaks.
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and we back who would prove those pictures?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I mean probably Sean looks like a.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Great bear that you're you know, that has killed an
elk and someone's getting close to it and Mass looks
like he's squeezing one off.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Who approved those?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Okay, well it relates to Mass man all his all
his uh his pictures are interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
They all have like interesting faces on it. But it's Mass.
It is what is Sean Isn't that what you expect?
Speaker 8 (18:18):
Isn't that what you gonna expect for Sean like Grizzly
Bear yelling at you about you know what's going on?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Sports Wild.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
He's having it. He's having this over. I want to say,
in a week or two or a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It's over. He has a little watch party. Yeah, we
have a watch party with a well we'll go there.
In that Sunday was interesting, Ricky, did you get that invite?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I didn't get that invite? So what you know what
we told subtly? You know, we're just told you are
not an a list person.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
It's the Wool Sports Chet. It's forty people in that show.
That's what I saw in it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Neither Ricky is in it.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Because Ricky just commented today about something else laughing, Yeah,
I must have missed that. Long story short, we will
be going on there, and that's how he will be
looking at the TV.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
And looking at the ribs and looking at everything else. Uh,
that's that's how.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I here's what I say. I mean when Braylen's invited
us over for dinner, Sean bellegians inviting most of us over.
Now it's it's.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Almost like, what are those parties in neighborhoods where you
go from house to progressive party?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Next up, it's got to be ricky parties progressive party.
So now after Sean Love.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
And I got to fix her up, her man come
to my house.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Just in case people are wondering, we can keep you updated.
Arizona and the Tigers are tied at one. Chris Paddock
making his Tiger's debut today as the starter. He's given
up three hits and the one run. So we'll keep
you updated on the Tigers game.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
So how cool are you players, especially like pitchers. Pitchers
throw the ball? How cool you with them? Like playing
catch with the football before the game. It's been a thing.
I guess we'll talk about that before. How cool are
you with that?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah? I think it's great. Here's what they do.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
They they will That's how they oftentimes get their cardio win.
So a lot of strength and conditioning coaches. They don't
want to just send you running all the time. This
is a different way to run. So they'll run routes
and people will throw them passes. Sometimes the pitchers are
running the routes, sometimes they're throwing it. I don't think
they throw it quite as often as many people might think.
(20:30):
They're usually running routes and getting the football thrown to
them because there's too many things that can go wrong
when you're throwing.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
I hate giving credit to this individual for anything, and
I don't know if it's even deserved, but I feel
like I didn't see anybody playing like the football that
wasn't football until the Olympic team and to the NBA
and one individual who thought he was a wide receiver,
Lebron James. Like once they start playing around the Olympics
in eight and then twelve, I started seeing it in
(20:57):
multiple sports.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I'm just doing I'm sure you've talked talked about this,
so I apologize for the redundancy here.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Did it bother you? And I don't even know why the.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Hell it bothered me? Maybe it's because it's Lebron? But
did it bother you when everybody said he could play
in the NFL?
Speaker 7 (21:12):
And yes, it would it? Did?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
You know?
Speaker 8 (21:19):
Because I think because people just they accepted it, they
took it, and they said one hundred percent he could,
and it was like it was an automatic assumed truth
when it couldn't be further from the truth. You know,
they don't get me wrong. I've seen his high school
highlight tapes. Yeah, he had a couple of catches. He's
six eights playing against you know, little kids out there.
So yes, he did some things in high school.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
For sure.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
I give him credit for the high school career. But
to take that go to the NFL and be a
six to eight wide receiver like they would have broke
your ribs and half like stop playing like nah, I disagree.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
If if he had gone the route of college football,
if he had gone from high school, plenty of offers,
if he had gone from high.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
School to the collegiate route and groomed his game a
little bit more, I can see it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
What bothered me is people feel like, well, he plays
in the NBA, how about just shaking him and moving
him right to the NFL. He could do that. He's
one of the few athletes who could do that. I
just totally disagreed with it.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
That's why I have a problem with that in the
age old conversation in terms of who are the best
athletes because they give it to basketball players. They're like, yeah,
see Lebron can play in the NFL. Bull, you know
what comes after that?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Bull?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
You know what comes after that. Lebron soft Like Lebron
is soft to play where Ice was tight end. It
takes a level of physicality, It takes a level of
mental toughness knowing what's coming out.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Lebron is strong mentally his game.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
He is a bully that the NBA allowed to be
a bully. They allow him to run to the lane,
do what he want to do, put his head down
and lay the ball up like a bull. They allowed
that's not going. And then he didn't fight any of
his battles. He didn't fight anybody in the NBA. Like
anytime something happens, he looks at the reft and he
walks away. You can't do that in the NFL playing
that position because when you got to run a slant
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route and you know a Reid is right there, and.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Also Terrell Subbs is right there. Also Ray Lewis is
right there.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
But you can't go look at the offensive line and
like hey, can you help me out. You can't go
look at your fellow wide out like hey man, he
hit me. What you're gonna do about him?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Nothing? Get your ass in the huddle on let's roll
right right. So he's that's so.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Well said, he's not worried about Kyle Kismo going down
the lane.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
He's worried he's got to worried about a.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Safety or a linebacker who might crack him in the
middle of a of a route.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
The only thing I would say about Lebron James is
and he's built like a brick, you know what. And
he is super athletic. We get that doesn't mean it
always translates. When you said wide receivers have to be
super I mean Bill Schrader with the alligator arms is
immediately where my mind went. So there are guys who've
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played the position who you can say have not been
that type of NFL time.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
This is true, you know. I just think when you
have a commissioner that lobbies for you and makes rules.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
So if you touch number twenty three, and we've seen
it before, don't get it wrong. I mean he had
to grow into that Lebron I mean Michael Jordan. But
after a while it was like you touched twenty three.
You know what comes with that mid nineties to the
end of his career. That was Lebron's whole career. If
you touch twenty three, you will no longer be in
this NBA, Like, let me make this clear to you.
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That's not gonna happen with Paul excuse me, Paul Tagley move,
which is a commissioner when I was in the league,
and then Roger Goodell. Ah, we're not conditioning. We're not
changing the rules for you in that sense.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
That is that's an interesting thing because you even look here,
like at the league level, they got it made for Bron.
Even amongst the player and acquisition level, you got his well,
I guess it's not his agency, right, his best friends.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
It's the one he started doing. He stole from Mellow.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
You can talk about it that Mellow Mellow created clutch
on the plane and then they stole that to Miami.
But yeah, they lied me in from Also see basketball
didn't tests for HGH. NFL tests for AHGH. You don't
remember when Lebron left Miami and all of a sudden
he gets to Cleveland and then all of a sudden
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he has his random back injury and he has to
go back to Miami and spend a month and a half,
and then he came back and he didn't look like
the same Lebron James. Because the NBA started testing for
adh in twenty sixteen, So he had to wean his
body off and wean his body back in the condition
shape difference.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Can't do that in the NFL in two sixty five's look.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
It looks a lot different if you're not on the juice, Ojay,
it looks a lot different.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
When you talked about him complaining, I just picture, I
just go back to that time where he complained about
somebody in the crowd and like brought the ref over.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Like pointed to him.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
In the cellar. I know, you imagine what ray Lewis
would have said to him.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, they would have called him out as a cry
baby and a little chattel tip one.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Day across the middle. No, seriously, that's what they would
have done. It was a totally different sport. It is.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
And just because you bring up an interesting thing about
who's the most athletic, and I understand why you feel
like football players would be. And just so the record
is clear, I think lebron is third all time and
free throws attempted third all time in the history of
the league. Only will Chamberlain and Karl Malone have more.
But Karl Malone was yoked and Karl.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Malone I'm believing.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I mean, I like him as a person, but it
has nothing to do on the court that Joker will
fight you.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't want that smoke. If I'm an NBA player.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
But I think the beauty of what sports is is
that there's so many unique things that like, you're super athletic.
But I've played softball, you know, charity games against NFL
players and basketball players, and it's a lot of them
it's kind of embarrassing, like they don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
How to throw a ball.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
You played baseball. Oh, it's it's painful to watch, it
really is.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
So I respect all athletes at whatever they're doing. Yeah, okay,
as wing Retzkin once told you know, Michael Jordan, I
can play your sport, you can never play mine because
you can't skate.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So I don't know if that makes them more athletic.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
It's a skill set, but it's a really fun discussion
to have.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You would know.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Because you've played certain sports at a high level. Bo
Jackson has played at the highest level. Again, Sanders's played
at the tightest level. Brian Jordan's played the highest level.
Danny Ainge just played the highest level. I'd love to
get their thoughts on what it takes, and I'm sure
what they would all say is different skill sets for
each of those sports.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
At the end of the day, every sport has a
level of it that it's just it's ridiculously impressive.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, every sport has a level where you just have
to take your hat off to the players. Whether you're
talking about football with a U, whether you're talking about
football with two oh's, basketball, baseball, lacrosse, it just goes on.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
I just feel for my sport when I see a
dB have to run four two. Let's say the receiver
runs four two, Well, that dB has to check for
a four to two receiver running fourth, three, running backwards
while watching the quarterback checking the sideline and then turning
at the like the.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Interception we saw yesday with a Meet Robinson.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
You gotta do all that in the fly, like all
that you have to process in that sport create It
adds to the athleticism of it. Basketball is a ridiculously
athletic sport. It's ridiculous. They're so gifted. It's not too
much minutia and it's a lot of freelance. In football,
a meek Robinson has to start to play. This is
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the defense I've got him. We're in cover one. I
know I don't have any help on the backside. Now
I have to watch his inside him. I gotta watch
the quarterback. At the same time, I gotta run the
route backwards. I still have to keep phase with the quarterback.
I then also have to phase what my safety is doing,
all while checking him. And oh, by the way, he
tried to give me a BS move to the right.
Now I have to think, is he gonna run the post?
Speaker 11 (28:50):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Now I gotta play tendencies. Now I have to go
back to.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
The film that I'll watch throughout the week, and so
now it's like, I think he may be going here.
You know, what the hell with it, I'm gonna test
my my knowledge interception and it works.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
All that he had the process five point two seconds.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh and by the way, he can't touch the guy.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Five point two seconds. So I just think with that,
it just adds a different just for me.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, No, I'm glad you said that, because I've always
said being a cornerback or dB in the NFL is
the hardest position. Is forced and we always talk about
like could you hit We said, could you get a
hit in Major League. We never think about, like could
you do you think you could actually guard receiver exactly
like we know you ever played put pads on?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You know, hell like I played.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I played in the NFL and I played dB a
little bit in college. Like I'm not telling myself I
can go out and this is when I'm in my prime,
by the way, I'm not telling myself about and go
out there and check Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
It's not gonna happen. It will never happen.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
What would be really fun is putting a GoPro on
somebody and watching Calvin in his prime or somebody of
that hill uh run that route and just see how physical,
how strong, how fat, how high you have to jump
in all those other things to really appreciate. The only
thing I would disagree with you, Ricky, is you said cornerback.
I respect the hell out of it. Quarterback is I
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think the hardest position in all of sports because of
what braylm was just talking about, what you have to register,
how quickly you have to decide, and how many different
positions you have to know.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
I think you guys mix two. I think you guys
are saying different things and the same thing. I think
he was mostly just talking about the athleticism side of things.
I think you're talking about the actual heart size thing.
Both of you guys are correct. Yeah, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Like I've said that about it those I think goalies
is really hard, but a lot of that is reactionary,
a lot of that is athleticism. I mean, you have
to learn to push from left to right and all
those other things, and you have to think of tendencies
and two on.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Ones and so on and so forth. But when you're
the quarterback, you're.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Trying to I mean, what we talked about a few
weeks ago on Netflix, that series Quarterback was so enlightening
about all the things that they have to process within
twenty five seconds. Yeah, so in the huddle, So, for example,
what was your favorite play call? I don't care if
you're in Cleveland, New York, San Francisco, wherever. Remember the
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name of it, Yeah, Michigan. It was ping ping.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's that's the simple, the simplest version of it.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Like all you had to remember one part of the call, correct.
The quarterback has this long call, you remember your part
of it correct or not.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Let's say it's one hundred percent of a play. I
have to remember. I gotta remember that half of it. Okay,
I don't have to remember the whole play, your half.
I need to know what's side. I gotta hear what
the formation is beside I'm the line up on.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
I gotta hear what the actual is the slot. I
gotta hear if they reverse the switch.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
So as the ripper, Liz, it tells me if I'm
inside or outside, and then what the actual rock concept
it is. So and then for a wide receiver, running
back and tight end offensive lineman too, it's always the
audible part, like if you're running this round and it's
covered too, does it go to something else? So I
gotta know that before the snap, and then if it
does go to something else, what does it go to?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You gotta be on the same page of quarterback. But
I can get away.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
With you know, fifty percent, Okay, the quarterback has to
know all of it, though.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
One hundred and forty percent.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right right, yeah, And what everybody's doing on the plant.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Because there will be people, well not so much on
the Detrair Lions, but there are people that are gonna
come to that line of scrimmage and They're gonna look
at the quarterback like.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I've been there before.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Like it sucks you get to the line of scrimmers,
especially you know you're a two minute drill. You come
back and get in the huddle, you miss something, get
to the line of scrimmags and you're like, oh.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Shit, that's all just eyes. You got the mouth, Guarden,
It's that's funny.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
That's why you got to have a receiver like i'mar
Ros Saint Brown to get you to get your tight.
Speaker 9 (32:40):
I was about to ask you if you ever had
a situation where you might have forgotten.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Or Jericho, But you think all I got to said
Jericho Jericho contry was my i'mar ra saying Brown. He
knew everything and didn't mind tell. He was so soft spoken,
Like I didn't have to yell at Jericho.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I'd be like, Yo, take on what I got, Yo,
b what you got? Hey, dude, got to slim on
this because I just got to the Jets.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
So the first four or five games, I'm like, shout
at Jergard, amazing player, an amazing coach.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I wanted to take you.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Well. Luckily Mark, they didn't give Mark a lot of rope.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Mark was a rookie quarterback that they didn't give a
lot of rope too, So we ran the ball. Said
it wasn't much, you know, it wasn't much, but it's
a couple they didn't get. They had a system for
Mark Sanchez, which to day I look back and we
were really like a juvenile system. I don't know how
we got the two AFC Championship games. They had a
red light, amber light green light system from Mark his
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freshman and my first second first year, halfway through his
second year, because they didn't they didn't like the interceptions.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
They didn't like him all over the place.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Mark got drafted like barely twenty when he got drafted
fifth overall in two thousand and nine. So if it
was red, you could only hit the first read. There
was no where else you can go with. But it
was if it was If the first read wasn't there,
you check it down, you audible to play, you run it.
If it was amber, you get one or two. Really,
you can get the second option. The first option is
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not there, you can get the second option. If it's
not there, take the sack, run the ball, audible, et cetera.
And then obviously greenlight is greenlight. But I didn't see
that car too much. I didn't see that interesting. That's Relliant.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
That's why he.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
Should not be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
I don't understand it. I do not understand.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I didn't know that was a possibility. That was a thing.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
People thought he was going to be the head coach
of the Dallas Cowboys. No, no, hey, you never know.
I heard Dion Sanders, but I didn't hear Mark Sanchez,
Bryan Brian schottenh Well, Brian Schottenheimer is now.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But I heard in the off season that people wanted
Dion Sanders.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I was saying, that was a guy that came up
with system.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Oh that was the game came at the s I'm sorry, okay,
I thought you I thought you were talking about Mark Sanchez.
I was thinking about you guys last night because after
the Tigers game, I'm sitting there flipping around. I'm like,
you know, what am I going to watch again? And yeah,
and they're up to one. I thought, what am I
going to watch?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Now?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Thirty for thirty, which has done exceptionally well most of
them was on and it was the Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Bills four falls.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Four falls, and while i'm watching it.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Of course, while I was experiencing as a football fan
in general, I never never said that, you know, they're
choke artists. I never said that they haven't accomplished anything.
I never said they were losers. Getting there four years
in a row to me is mind blowing, especially the
last year when they had the comeback against the Oilers,
they had to come in as a wild card and all.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
This other stuff. There were parts of my life.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, Frank Reich, Yeah, couldn't get it done unfortunately for
them in the super Bowl. But those are the things
when I when I was watching that, I was thinking
about the football mentality, the bounce back, the small capacity
to remember things, you know, ye you know, forget, forget
things quickly you can move on, and just our business
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in general, where we are so quick to judge on
whether or not a team is good or bad. And somebody,
I think with Steve Tasker, brought it up during the
docum series where he said, why were we good enough
or why were we considered a good team to get
there three years in a row, but if we lose
four were considered a crappy team. It's a really good question.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
I think I've never never even thought about how would
you view they got there four years?
Speaker 7 (36:30):
I always just think about the fact that they were
a dead team, right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So how would you how would you how do you
look at them?
Speaker 8 (36:38):
I think this is how I look at because I've
watched that a couple of different times. It was excellent
by the way it was it was. It was that's when.
That's when thirty for thirty was winning prime. Now you
get one good one every five or six ones, but
that's when they were cooking with grease. Because the eighty
five Bears one was I want to say, either right
after that one was really good right before the Buffalo
Bill is that stretch that one of the greatest teams
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in NFL. His like, they were the favorites in my opinion,
in terms of how well they played.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
They were favorites, and three.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Out of four of those Super Bowls they were better
than the Giants that year Giants snucked to the playoffs.
People don't remember that that was the end of Lawrence Taylor.
That was the end of what they were doing. Snug
to the playoffs, beat the Buffalo Bills and shouldn't be
because they missed the field goal.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Then the re mar.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Because they didn't make a judgments. Bill Belichick dared him
to do something and they didn't adjust.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Becose very very true.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Getting back to what I'm saying going into that game, Yeah,
I think they were better than the Giants.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
They were better than the Skins Cowboy teams.
Speaker 8 (37:33):
I'm going with the Cowboys, but I could see if
you say that you.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Thought they were better.
Speaker 8 (37:37):
They had the MVP and Thermer Thomas, they had Hall
of Famer after Hall of Famer after Hall of Famer
after Hall of Famer, and this is the.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Truth, they didn't get it done.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
Like those teams are great and they can be the
what if team, much like the seventies Minnesota Vikings. Yes,
at some point you gotta seal the deal. Marv Levy,
you were one of the greatest coaches in INFL history
at that time. Maybe still you got the four Super Bowls,
you still won the greatest coach of all times. Some
point you got to make some adjustments and figure it out.
At some point, Jim Kelly, you got to make the play.
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Thurman Thomas DEFUNMB at some.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Point, and he had a hell of a playoff run
all four of those years.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
At some point, Bruce Smith you gotta make the set
at some point, Thurman, it just has to happen because
one excuse, two excuse, three, excuse, four excuses out Landers.
I think they're one of the greatest teams in the
NFL history, but at some point you got to seal
the deal and they never could.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
That's interesting, Uh say that there was you said, Bruce Smith,
you gotta make the play he had in that first
Super Bowl that they played the Giants, he had Jeff
Hosteler's wrists in the end zone. And he and Thurman
Thomas were part of the docu series where he said
watched it together. Yeah, they did watch it together, and
he said, I still don't know how he held out
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of the football. And people forget that with the Giants,
Phil Simms was their quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
He was hurt. Jeff Hosteler led them to the.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Super Bowl NFC championship, and that's right.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, it's a hell of a run for him.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
So when people talk about, well, you have to win
with superstar quarterbacks, I don't disagree with that, but there
are plenty of examples. But everybody turns to Trent dilferd
Nick Foles, Nick Foles, Jeff Hostetler's a pretty good example.
J Yeah, yeah, those are those are the most commonly, like,
you can get there.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Vince Verra gambo got his team.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
To a super Bowl. They didn't win it. Jake de Long,
but he got there. Jake Delon's are really good example. Yeah,
all of them actually, yeah, so all of them really
good examples. Speaking of football, the Lions are are ready
for the charges.
Speaker 11 (39:34):
We hope tomorrows. Yeah, that's stunned me. That's dounne me
for a moment.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
You're not gonna see Tate Ratledge or teylerk Williams tomorrow,
neither the first or the second round pick.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Neither one.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
According to Dan campbellon I just ruined Ricky's dead. He's
out of the boot.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Ricky's like, look, I'm gonna sit in the chair of
the rest of Kissed Off.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
So what we were told by Dan Campbell is I
think he's gonna They're gonna play against Atlanta. Okay, they're
not playing in preseason game number one. Why would that be?
Where's the benefit there?
Speaker 7 (40:16):
That's weird.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
Dan Campbell and the new NFL coaches, they don't like
their players playing in game one.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Kind of like when I was playing. They don't Game one.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
We didn't play Like when I played those four games,
you didn't play Game one. They just have me do it.
I don't like it. From the standpoint, there's only three games.
You don't have that much time. You want to get
some reps out there against someone that is not wearing
the same helmet as you once the season starts. But
maybe from this point sheep that first preseason game, you're
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gonna have a lot of guys that.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Are not gonna make rosters playing in this game.
Speaker 8 (40:48):
You're gonna have a lot of guys that are out
there trying to make things happen. They're gonna be all
over places. It's gonna be wild a little bit. It's
reckless abandonment. It's a little bit chaotic in game one,
especially this new seventeen game season. NFL, do you want
to have to league Williams and Tate Radis out there
with guys that are trying to overly prove they belong
to the Los Angeles? This is this is me trying
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to find the method and why, Like, do you want
to have those guys out there when you got guys
that are out there reckless abandonment that may not be
out there. They're trying to do any and everything, maybe
even some Christian Wilkins type things, but they're doing trying
to do.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Any of like I did that didn't.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Like that little grabage. No, but they're trying to do
any and everything. And do you want your guys in
there to get a dumb injury as somebody on the
charge is trying to prove to Jimmy Harbaugh the Hey,
I belong on the charges and I want to show
you that I want to start today with the enthusiasm
unknown to mankind.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It's a fair point. And as you know, there's usually
three preseason games because.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
You're playing in the Hall of Fame game, you get
four this yearwons excuse me?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Do the Chargers Well you knew that.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
You just said three because that's what everybody else get.
The only the only thing I wonder about is if
you're getting used to the speed of the sport and
it is different. It's going to be different for Tate
Ratlis than it was at Georgia. It's gonna be different
for Williams than it was at Ohio State. Those are
just facts. The NFL is much faster.
Speaker 8 (42:10):
Though, like is it in Game one. The NFL is
faster in the sense of the veterans studying the game
and knowing the game and being out there like this
is a lot of young guys that play in these
first games, a lot of guys that don't.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Do you think the Chargers are resting? Like why not
give them at least a couple of series? I guess
would be the question I have. Okay, just to get
used to the terminology and all the different nuances.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
I'm on the same team. Like I told you, I
do not like the fact that they don't play in
game one. I think you get all the reps that
you can, especially against opposit
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He's got his own favorite shows and he decided, you
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He's got he got The.
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Morning and he's got the he's got big D energy.
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He doesn't want to be part of this and he's like,
I've got a life.
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I think you like I'm tapped out?
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Is what he said.
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He I don't look like him, you know.
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Yeah, I'm just I'm just wait, do I I hope? Yeah,
that's what he's doing right now. He's just tapping out.
He's like a big boy at a buffet. I've had
enough and you're done.
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The name. Remember on a Sunday.
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How many Tuesdays, but how many people got sucked into
I'm gonna have a bunch of roles in salad first.
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That's how they get you. So you.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That's big money right here, that's a big money.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
No, it's funny. I went there as an adult. No,
we used to lie about the age getting with the
one on the quarter. No, it was it was seeing flat.
It was not the same you as an adult, You're like,
what is this chicken.
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Time?
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Ricky?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Stop? I still miss chicken.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, that's not what the hell is it?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Ricky?
Speaker 8 (02:22):
You had a party back in the day, like when
you're in college, high school, whatever. Back in the day,
Pondoros was the move get fifty wings for like twenty.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Five thirty wings for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (02:34):
That was the one right every hey listen, every event.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Birthday, I said nowadays to pay to get there.
Speaker 9 (02:42):
And then it was back in cheese and that's right.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
We used to go to the big when you sit
in forty five minutes, like the family size.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You got poke holes in the plastic spoke. I couldn't cook.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That sounds really really good. What's the one place?
Speaker 5 (02:58):
If you said you went there, people would look at
you and almost laugh in a good way, in a
bad way, like dude, save some money and go someplace else.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Depends on what was it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I don't want to be too offensive to people who
like these places or the places in general, but there
is one particular place and I actually used to work.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, no, no, no, that's just two years ago.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Then it came back. But okay, they laugh at you.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
They would shake their head. There's no like there's two places.
No way could you get us? That's one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That is one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Well played.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
It reminded me of franken Move. Remember going up to
franken Move. Everybody's like, you gotta go to Zenders. You
gotta go to Zenders. You go to Browner Brothers, you
go to birch Run and then afterwards you go to Zenders,
which is in franken Move village and you wait two
and a half three hours for the driest chicken you
ever taste in your life, Like, that's.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
What I hate. I get it. I'm with a.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
House and it resembled the house resembles a different kind
of house from back in.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
The day with bread, and I think it's really overrated.
You've got to go to the.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
You gotta think about where it's at.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
It's in frank like, there's nothing, there's no seasoning out
in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Then that makes it over rated.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Are all around, Like I'll.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Take chicken shack over that one.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Chicken.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Did you ever eat chicken King Farmers?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And you know you know why? I know we're chicken.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Oh yeah, O my god.
Speaker 8 (04:38):
The other one signing beef carvers one Okay, that's one.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Okay, anybody I retired, I got one.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
You were dead on there, red red lobster. That was
that was viewed as dude, makes some more money. You
you're gonna eat that food. And I worked there in
college as to pay for my way through college. And
I saw them like is there enough Greece in here?
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I'm a black ladder in the middle because I have
a shelf vitality. So I've never been in real life.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, but yourself fortunate.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
In the black community, graduation parties and Beyonce even take
her man in real life.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
She does not live in the ocean.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
When she's someplace, she'll go down to Italy before she'll
go to herself.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
She shouldn't do anything herself.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Red lobster, I will speak to you. I will say
this as a black staple. It is a black staple.
People are gonna jump you, but I actually tend to
agree with you on this one. I'm not agreeing because
you and I were doing this thing together. No, I
think black Black livester is over. I think red lobster,
that's what we call it.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Why is it?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Why is it the staple in the black community education.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I don't Again, I didn't go because it's bad.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It is bad. There's no way you go.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Trouble. To answer that question is to get in trouble.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
I just there's not necessarily back then affordable good seafood.
So I think it gave you a way to, you know,
go out get a seafood experience, even if it wasn't
a good and give you a seafood experience. And then
it turned into other things. It turns into the chart
of biscuits. It turned into the bottom of the salad,
It turns into the drink meat that they had for you,
and it just became a thing. Food wasn't good like
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I went there as a kid. I agree with you,
I didn't necessarilyly like it.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
My suggestion has always been two things. Either find someplace
else or go without.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
There wasn't a lot of places that.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
The Detroit River. It would probably be better.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Something from I'd rather I'm good, I'd rather eat the treachers.
If were talking about the Detroit ver sign me up long,
John Silvers.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
If we're gonna do the Detroit River, I might as
well ticket planes couple.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
In the day.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I just know I'm just that much hennessy and right, Yeah,
that's that's it.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I didn't know Ricky would had is allergic to to
shelf Yeah, but you do fish.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You don't have to have shell.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I love fish.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
I'll eat salmon and whiting and stuff like that, but
just not shell fish and peanuts unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, well that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
The peanut algy was always there.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Is that always man, my whole life.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
What happened people? What happened?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Like, does your does your face blow? Up as big
as your ego.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
What happens?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
The restaurant asked me.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
He's like, you know, could you die? I'm like, I don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I've never died before.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
But yes, I get like a good you throat and
all that stuff, and yeah it's bad. They shoot you
full of full of steroids.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Man, So it is. It is really like hits then, like.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
And it's it's such I love I love food, so
anything I'm not allergic to all try but alerted to happen.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
He's not even lying. He came in here with like
the world's best brownie. It was like, b I need
you to try this because it could be peanut.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
I don't know. He was sitting there like I'm ready
to eat this. It was cold, you know when I
can't smell it good?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh you didn't ask Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah I couldn't.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Yeah, I didn't ask anybody. I had already came back.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I was like, wait, is Olive Garden on that list?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Since I haven't been there a long time.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
I would say, no, it's it's it's it's the Italian version.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I suppose. Look, they're let's try collapses on that list.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
So is out.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Okay, we can be.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
We can call our significant others out. Sometimes they can
be a little bit more restaurants snobbery.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, yeah, alright.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
So I took my son the other day to a
downtown Birmingham establishment for brunch.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So it was a birthday.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I wasn't gonna name, but sure, and they were only
three of us, no shout out, one hundred and ten dollars.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Yeah, well that's Birmingham.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Look, I'm not a cheap skate, but I'm just wait
a minute.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I had a waffle for crying out loud, My wife
had eggs.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
My son had an omelet one.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Hundred Birmingham though, that Birmingham waffle.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It's Birmingham right. When you when you look at.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
The surrounding areas in Birmingham, especially on that side, which technically.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Is this way, look at the cars.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I do.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Looking at the cars will let you know what you're
gonna spend. Like the average car in Birmingham is going
to be upwards of sixty five thousand, easy, like that
mean that sound like a lot?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That's a lot easy.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
The average car in Birmingham secret maybe more realistic, maybe
upwards of eighty five let's say eighty five, A lot
of porches, a lot of BMW's lot of.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Being five vets because we ate outside at least five
ves you want to see, you.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
See, that's what it's going to be. They have the
ability to charge that because people are they're trying to
get to Birmingham.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Oh right, yeah, and they just they want.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
To be there, like you know, I'm in Birmingham.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I had a buddy who lived in my neighborhood, really
nice house, but his wife wanted to walk to coffee
in Birmingham. So he said, all right, what do you
want to do about it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Let's sell the house. He had a pool, it was
really nice.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
He had a yard in Birmingham.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Bought a house in Birmingham, had to rip the house
all the way down to the studs. He said, do
it yourself for redid the entire thing, electrical plumbing, the
whole ball, right, And he says, you know how many
times my wife is flipping walk to coffee twice?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I could have told him that, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
You know what it is the fact that you perceive
that you're gonna do.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Yeah, you perceived Yeah, if I live in Birmingham and
I walked to dinner, and you know, we can actually
hang out and and we.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Don't have to drive. We don't have to worry about
this because we can just walk home.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Not just now how it happened. I don't care where
you live. You know a bunch of people live over here.
They all drive.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Or get it delivered.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Way cheaper?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
So he invites us over two weekends ago. He says, hey,
let's go out to dinner. We go to this place.
It's an Italian joint. I say it, the guy, what
do you recommend? He says, the lasaign is the best
lasign you'll ever have. And I said, okay, because right now,
the best lasign I've ever had is in Rome. Okay,
but the best lasigner I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And the guy, And the guy looks at me, well
that's a different level.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
And I said, you said the best, so I'll get it,
but it better be damn good.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It was pretty good. Stand on business ship.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I just think you, like, if you're going to an
Italian restaurant and I asked you, hey, you know, what
do you recommend? And the thing you recommend is like postive.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I'm not going to disbelieve what would you expect steaks?
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Just it doesn't have to be steak, no, no state.
But just give me something. Don't just say positively, give
me something. Explained it a different ways.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
I get what you're saying about. We have a you
know this croissant, with this, with this, a.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Thousand restaurants. We're out to dinner.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
We're out to dinner, and Ricky goes, do you have
a croissan? Love a cross?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Hey go a long way.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I'm still to this day, I'm very upset that Alexander
got rid of their honeycs Sons two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That's good food.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
By the way, Alexander's has been my consistent stables is
the first time I ate there. You asked me my
favorite restaurant, I will say Alexander.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because you've never been disappointed.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I've never been let.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
Down in Florida, New York, Michigan, all over the country.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Two thousand, nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
The first time I had Alexander, Yeah, and it still
has never let me down, outside of getting.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Rid of the biscuits.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Their baked potatoes are the size of a helmet. It's unreal.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
There's Caesar dressing. He's a dressing.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Their pasta soup is to die for. Sorry about the pasta,
but it's true.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The pasta snake pasta they used to have pretty good.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's pretty damn good too. Since yeah, that's a good
that's a really good call.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Alexander might be in my Wednesday future. I think it
was just.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Steaks.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
So now that we're all hungry, you guys want to
go to lunch, I mean, thank you. I am interested though.
I thought, first of all, in case people missed it,
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Uh, I make Robertson's ability to cover aman Ros Saint
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and we back who would prove those pictures?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I mean probably Sean looks like a.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Great bear that you're you know, that has killed an
elk and someone's getting close to it and Mass looks
like he's squeezing one off.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Who approved those?
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Okay, well it relates to Mass man all his all
his uh his pictures are interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
They all have like interesting faces on it. But it's Mass.
It is what is Sean Isn't that what you expect?
Speaker 8 (18:18):
Isn't that what you gonna expect for Sean like Grizzly
Bear yelling at you about you know what's going on?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Sports Wild.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
He's having it. He's having this over. I want to say,
in a week or two or a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It's over. He has a little watch party. Yeah, we
have a watch party with a well we'll go there.
In that Sunday was interesting, Ricky, did you get that invite?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I didn't get that invite? So what you know what
we told subtly? You know, we're just told you are
not an a list person.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
It's the Wool Sports Chet. It's forty people in that show.
That's what I saw in it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Neither Ricky is in it.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Because Ricky just commented today about something else laughing, Yeah,
I must have missed that. Long story short, we will
be going on there, and that's how he will be
looking at the TV.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
And looking at the ribs and looking at everything else. Uh,
that's that's how.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I here's what I say. I mean when Braylen's invited
us over for dinner, Sean bellegians inviting most of us over.
Now it's it's.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Almost like, what are those parties in neighborhoods where you
go from house to progressive party?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Next up, it's got to be ricky parties progressive party.
So now after Sean Love.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
And I got to fix her up, her man come
to my house.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Just in case people are wondering, we can keep you updated.
Arizona and the Tigers are tied at one. Chris Paddock
making his Tiger's debut today as the starter. He's given
up three hits and the one run. So we'll keep
you updated on the Tigers game.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
So how cool are you players, especially like pitchers. Pitchers
throw the ball? How cool you with them? Like playing
catch with the football before the game. It's been a thing.
I guess we'll talk about that before. How cool are
you with that?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah? I think it's great. Here's what they do.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
They they will That's how they oftentimes get their cardio win.
So a lot of strength and conditioning coaches. They don't
want to just send you running all the time. This
is a different way to run. So they'll run routes
and people will throw them passes. Sometimes the pitchers are
running the routes, sometimes they're throwing it. I don't think
they throw it quite as often as many people might think.
(20:30):
They're usually running routes and getting the football thrown to
them because there's too many things that can go wrong
when you're throwing.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
I hate giving credit to this individual for anything, and
I don't know if it's even deserved, but I feel
like I didn't see anybody playing like the football that
wasn't football until the Olympic team and to the NBA
and one individual who thought he was a wide receiver,
Lebron James. Like once they start playing around the Olympics
in eight and then twelve, I started seeing it in
(20:57):
multiple sports.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I'm just doing I'm sure you've talked talked about this,
so I apologize for the redundancy here.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Did it bother you? And I don't even know why the.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Hell it bothered me? Maybe it's because it's Lebron? But
did it bother you when everybody said he could play
in the NFL?
Speaker 7 (21:12):
And yes, it would it? Did?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
You know?
Speaker 8 (21:19):
Because I think because people just they accepted it, they
took it, and they said one hundred percent he could,
and it was like it was an automatic assumed truth
when it couldn't be further from the truth. You know,
they don't get me wrong. I've seen his high school
highlight tapes. Yeah, he had a couple of catches. He's
six eights playing against you know, little kids out there.
So yes, he did some things in high school.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
For sure.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
I give him credit for the high school career. But
to take that go to the NFL and be a
six to eight wide receiver like they would have broke
your ribs and half like stop playing like nah, I disagree.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
If if he had gone the route of college football,
if he had gone from high school, plenty of offers,
if he had gone from high.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
School to the collegiate route and groomed his game a
little bit more, I can see it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
What bothered me is people feel like, well, he plays
in the NBA, how about just shaking him and moving
him right to the NFL. He could do that. He's
one of the few athletes who could do that. I
just totally disagreed with it.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
That's why I have a problem with that in the
age old conversation in terms of who are the best
athletes because they give it to basketball players. They're like, yeah,
see Lebron can play in the NFL. Bull, you know
what comes after that?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Bull?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
You know what comes after that. Lebron soft Like Lebron
is soft to play where Ice was tight end. It
takes a level of physicality, It takes a level of
mental toughness knowing what's coming out.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Lebron is strong mentally his game.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
He is a bully that the NBA allowed to be
a bully. They allow him to run to the lane,
do what he want to do, put his head down
and lay the ball up like a bull. They allowed
that's not going. And then he didn't fight any of
his battles. He didn't fight anybody in the NBA. Like
anytime something happens, he looks at the reft and he
walks away. You can't do that in the NFL playing
that position because when you got to run a slant
(23:04):
route and you know a Reid is right there, and.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Also Terrell Subbs is right there. Also Ray Lewis is
right there.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
But you can't go look at the offensive line and
like hey, can you help me out. You can't go
look at your fellow wide out like hey man, he
hit me. What you're gonna do about him?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Nothing? Get your ass in the huddle on let's roll
right right. So he's that's so.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Well said, he's not worried about Kyle Kismo going down
the lane.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
He's worried he's got to worried about a.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Safety or a linebacker who might crack him in the
middle of a of a route.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
The only thing I would say about Lebron James is
and he's built like a brick, you know what. And
he is super athletic. We get that doesn't mean it
always translates. When you said wide receivers have to be
super I mean Bill Schrader with the alligator arms is
immediately where my mind went. So there are guys who've
(23:54):
played the position who you can say have not been
that type of NFL time.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
This is true, you know. I just think when you
have a commissioner that lobbies for you and makes rules.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
So if you touch number twenty three, and we've seen
it before, don't get it wrong. I mean he had
to grow into that Lebron I mean Michael Jordan. But
after a while it was like you touched twenty three.
You know what comes with that mid nineties to the
end of his career. That was Lebron's whole career. If
you touch twenty three, you will no longer be in
this NBA, Like, let me make this clear to you.
(24:26):
That's not gonna happen with Paul excuse me, Paul Tagley move,
which is a commissioner when I was in the league,
and then Roger Goodell. Ah, we're not conditioning. We're not
changing the rules for you in that sense.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
That is that's an interesting thing because you even look here,
like at the league level, they got it made for Bron.
Even amongst the player and acquisition level, you got his well,
I guess it's not his agency, right, his best friends.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
It's the one he started doing. He stole from Mellow.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
You can talk about it that Mellow Mellow created clutch
on the plane and then they stole that to Miami.
But yeah, they lied me in from Also see basketball
didn't tests for HGH. NFL tests for AHGH. You don't
remember when Lebron left Miami and all of a sudden
he gets to Cleveland and then all of a sudden
(25:15):
he has his random back injury and he has to
go back to Miami and spend a month and a half,
and then he came back and he didn't look like
the same Lebron James. Because the NBA started testing for
adh in twenty sixteen, So he had to wean his
body off and wean his body back in the condition
shape difference.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Can't do that in the NFL in two sixty five's look.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
It looks a lot different if you're not on the juice, Ojay,
it looks a lot different.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
When you talked about him complaining, I just picture, I
just go back to that time where he complained about
somebody in the crowd and like brought the ref over.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Like pointed to him.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
In the cellar. I know, you imagine what ray Lewis
would have said to him.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, they would have called him out as a cry
baby and a little chattel tip one.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Day across the middle. No, seriously, that's what they would
have done. It was a totally different sport. It is.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
And just because you bring up an interesting thing about
who's the most athletic, and I understand why you feel
like football players would be. And just so the record
is clear, I think lebron is third all time and
free throws attempted third all time in the history of
the league. Only will Chamberlain and Karl Malone have more.
But Karl Malone was yoked and Karl.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Malone I'm believing.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
I mean, I like him as a person, but it
has nothing to do on the court that Joker will
fight you.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't want that smoke. If I'm an NBA player.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
But I think the beauty of what sports is is
that there's so many unique things that like, you're super athletic.
But I've played softball, you know, charity games against NFL
players and basketball players, and it's a lot of them
it's kind of embarrassing, like they don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
How to throw a ball.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
You played baseball. Oh, it's it's painful to watch, it
really is.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
So I respect all athletes at whatever they're doing. Yeah, okay,
as wing Retzkin once told you know, Michael Jordan, I
can play your sport, you can never play mine because
you can't skate.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So I don't know if that makes them more athletic.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
It's a skill set, but it's a really fun discussion
to have.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You would know.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Because you've played certain sports at a high level. Bo
Jackson has played at the highest level. Again, Sanders's played
at the tightest level. Brian Jordan's played the highest level.
Danny Ainge just played the highest level. I'd love to
get their thoughts on what it takes, and I'm sure
what they would all say is different skill sets for
each of those sports.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
At the end of the day, every sport has a
level of it that it's just it's ridiculously impressive.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, every sport has a level where you just have
to take your hat off to the players. Whether you're
talking about football with a U, whether you're talking about
football with two oh's, basketball, baseball, lacrosse, it just goes on.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
I just feel for my sport when I see a
dB have to run four two. Let's say the receiver
runs four two, Well, that dB has to check for
a four to two receiver running fourth, three, running backwards
while watching the quarterback checking the sideline and then turning
at the like the.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Interception we saw yesday with a Meet Robinson.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
You gotta do all that in the fly, like all
that you have to process in that sport create It
adds to the athleticism of it. Basketball is a ridiculously
athletic sport. It's ridiculous. They're so gifted. It's not too
much minutia and it's a lot of freelance. In football,
a meek Robinson has to start to play. This is
(28:28):
the defense I've got him. We're in cover one. I
know I don't have any help on the backside. Now
I have to watch his inside him. I gotta watch
the quarterback. At the same time, I gotta run the
route backwards. I still have to keep phase with the quarterback.
I then also have to phase what my safety is doing,
all while checking him. And oh, by the way, he
tried to give me a BS move to the right.
Now I have to think, is he gonna run the post?
Speaker 11 (28:50):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Now I gotta play tendencies. Now I have to go
back to.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
The film that I'll watch throughout the week, and so
now it's like, I think he may be going here.
You know, what the hell with it, I'm gonna test
my my knowledge interception and it works.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
All that he had the process five point two seconds.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh and by the way, he can't touch the guy.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Five point two seconds. So I just think with that,
it just adds a different just for me.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, No, I'm glad you said that, because I've always
said being a cornerback or dB in the NFL is
the hardest position. Is forced and we always talk about
like could you hit We said, could you get a
hit in Major League. We never think about, like could
you do you think you could actually guard receiver exactly
like we know you ever played put pads on?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You know, hell like I played.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I played in the NFL and I played dB a
little bit in college. Like I'm not telling myself I
can go out and this is when I'm in my prime,
by the way, I'm not telling myself about and go
out there and check Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
It's not gonna happen. It will never happen.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
What would be really fun is putting a GoPro on
somebody and watching Calvin in his prime or somebody of
that hill uh run that route and just see how physical,
how strong, how fat, how high you have to jump
in all those other things to really appreciate. The only
thing I would disagree with you, Ricky, is you said cornerback.
I respect the hell out of it. Quarterback is I
(30:09):
think the hardest position in all of sports because of
what braylm was just talking about, what you have to register,
how quickly you have to decide, and how many different
positions you have to know.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
I think you guys mix two. I think you guys
are saying different things and the same thing. I think
he was mostly just talking about the athleticism side of things.
I think you're talking about the actual heart size thing.
Both of you guys are correct. Yeah, by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Like I've said that about it those I think goalies
is really hard, but a lot of that is reactionary,
a lot of that is athleticism. I mean, you have
to learn to push from left to right and all
those other things, and you have to think of tendencies
and two on.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Ones and so on and so forth. But when you're
the quarterback, you're.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Trying to I mean, what we talked about a few
weeks ago on Netflix, that series Quarterback was so enlightening
about all the things that they have to process within
twenty five seconds. Yeah, so in the huddle, So, for example,
what was your favorite play call? I don't care if
you're in Cleveland, New York, San Francisco, wherever. Remember the
(31:08):
name of it, Yeah, Michigan. It was ping ping.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's that's the simple, the simplest version of it.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Like all you had to remember one part of the call, correct.
The quarterback has this long call, you remember your part
of it correct or not.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Let's say it's one hundred percent of a play. I
have to remember. I gotta remember that half of it. Okay,
I don't have to remember the whole play, your half.
I need to know what's side. I gotta hear what
the formation is beside I'm the line up on.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
I gotta hear what the actual is the slot. I
gotta hear if they reverse the switch.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
So as the ripper, Liz, it tells me if I'm
inside or outside, and then what the actual rock concept
it is. So and then for a wide receiver, running
back and tight end offensive lineman too, it's always the
audible part, like if you're running this round and it's
covered too, does it go to something else? So I
gotta know that before the snap, and then if it
does go to something else, what does it go to?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You gotta be on the same page of quarterback. But
I can get away.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
With you know, fifty percent, Okay, the quarterback has to
know all of it, though.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
One hundred and forty percent.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right right, yeah, And what everybody's doing on the plant.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Because there will be people, well not so much on
the Detrair Lions, but there are people that are gonna
come to that line of scrimmage and They're gonna look
at the quarterback like.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I've been there before.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Like it sucks you get to the line of scrimmers,
especially you know you're a two minute drill. You come
back and get in the huddle, you miss something, get
to the line of scrimmags and you're like, oh.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Shit, that's all just eyes. You got the mouth, Guarden,
It's that's funny.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
That's why you got to have a receiver like i'mar
Ros Saint Brown to get you to get your tight.
Speaker 9 (32:40):
I was about to ask you if you ever had
a situation where you might have forgotten.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Or Jericho, But you think all I got to said
Jericho Jericho contry was my i'mar ra saying Brown. He
knew everything and didn't mind tell. He was so soft spoken,
Like I didn't have to yell at Jericho.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I'd be like, Yo, take on what I got, Yo,
b what you got? Hey, dude, got to slim on
this because I just got to the Jets.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
So the first four or five games, I'm like, shout
at Jergard, amazing player, an amazing coach.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I wanted to take you.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Well. Luckily Mark, they didn't give Mark a lot of rope.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Mark was a rookie quarterback that they didn't give a
lot of rope too, So we ran the ball. Said
it wasn't much, you know, it wasn't much, but it's
a couple they didn't get. They had a system for
Mark Sanchez, which to day I look back and we
were really like a juvenile system. I don't know how
we got the two AFC Championship games. They had a
red light, amber light green light system from Mark his
(33:42):
freshman and my first second first year, halfway through his
second year, because they didn't they didn't like the interceptions.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
They didn't like him all over the place.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Mark got drafted like barely twenty when he got drafted
fifth overall in two thousand and nine. So if it
was red, you could only hit the first read. There
was no where else you can go with. But it
was if it was If the first read wasn't there,
you check it down, you audible to play, you run it.
If it was amber, you get one or two. Really,
you can get the second option. The first option is
(34:11):
not there, you can get the second option. If it's
not there, take the sack, run the ball, audible, et cetera.
And then obviously greenlight is greenlight. But I didn't see
that car too much. I didn't see that interesting. That's Relliant.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
That's why he.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
Should not be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
I don't understand it. I do not understand.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I didn't know that was a possibility. That was a thing.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
People thought he was going to be the head coach
of the Dallas Cowboys. No, no, hey, you never know.
I heard Dion Sanders, but I didn't hear Mark Sanchez,
Bryan Brian schottenh Well, Brian Schottenheimer is now.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But I heard in the off season that people wanted
Dion Sanders.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I was saying, that was a guy that came up
with system.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Oh that was the game came at the s I'm sorry, okay,
I thought you I thought you were talking about Mark Sanchez.
I was thinking about you guys last night because after
the Tigers game, I'm sitting there flipping around. I'm like,
you know, what am I going to watch again? And yeah,
and they're up to one. I thought, what am I
going to watch?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Now?
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Thirty for thirty, which has done exceptionally well most of
them was on and it was the Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Bills four falls.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Four falls, and while i'm watching it.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Of course, while I was experiencing as a football fan
in general, I never never said that, you know, they're
choke artists. I never said that they haven't accomplished anything.
I never said they were losers. Getting there four years
in a row to me is mind blowing, especially the
last year when they had the comeback against the Oilers,
they had to come in as a wild card and all.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
This other stuff. There were parts of my life.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, Frank Reich, Yeah, couldn't get it done unfortunately for
them in the super Bowl. But those are the things
when I when I was watching that, I was thinking
about the football mentality, the bounce back, the small capacity
to remember things, you know, ye you know, forget, forget
things quickly you can move on, and just our business
(36:02):
in general, where we are so quick to judge on
whether or not a team is good or bad. And somebody,
I think with Steve Tasker, brought it up during the
docum series where he said, why were we good enough
or why were we considered a good team to get
there three years in a row, but if we lose
four were considered a crappy team. It's a really good question.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
I think I've never never even thought about how would
you view they got there four years?
Speaker 7 (36:30):
I always just think about the fact that they were
a dead team, right.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So how would you how would you how do you
look at them?
Speaker 8 (36:38):
I think this is how I look at because I've
watched that a couple of different times. It was excellent
by the way it was it was. It was that's when.
That's when thirty for thirty was winning prime. Now you
get one good one every five or six ones, but
that's when they were cooking with grease. Because the eighty
five Bears one was I want to say, either right
after that one was really good right before the Buffalo
Bill is that stretch that one of the greatest teams
(36:59):
in NFL. His like, they were the favorites in my opinion,
in terms of how well they played.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
They were favorites, and three.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Out of four of those Super Bowls they were better
than the Giants that year Giants snucked to the playoffs.
People don't remember that that was the end of Lawrence Taylor.
That was the end of what they were doing. Snug
to the playoffs, beat the Buffalo Bills and shouldn't be
because they missed the field goal.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Then the re mar.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Because they didn't make a judgments. Bill Belichick dared him
to do something and they didn't adjust.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Becose very very true.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Getting back to what I'm saying going into that game, Yeah,
I think they were better than the Giants.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
They were better than the Skins Cowboy teams.
Speaker 8 (37:33):
I'm going with the Cowboys, but I could see if
you say that you.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Thought they were better.
Speaker 8 (37:37):
They had the MVP and Thermer Thomas, they had Hall
of Famer after Hall of Famer after Hall of Famer
after Hall of Famer, and this is the.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Truth, they didn't get it done.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
Like those teams are great and they can be the
what if team, much like the seventies Minnesota Vikings. Yes,
at some point you gotta seal the deal. Marv Levy,
you were one of the greatest coaches in INFL history
at that time. Maybe still you got the four Super Bowls,
you still won the greatest coach of all times. Some
point you got to make some adjustments and figure it out.
At some point, Jim Kelly, you got to make the play.
(38:05):
Thurman Thomas DEFUNMB at some.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Point, and he had a hell of a playoff run
all four of those years.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
At some point, Bruce Smith you gotta make the set
at some point, Thurman, it just has to happen because
one excuse, two excuse, three, excuse, four excuses out Landers.
I think they're one of the greatest teams in the
NFL history, but at some point you got to seal
the deal and they never could.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
That's interesting, Uh say that there was you said, Bruce Smith,
you gotta make the play he had in that first
Super Bowl that they played the Giants, he had Jeff
Hosteler's wrists in the end zone. And he and Thurman
Thomas were part of the docu series where he said
watched it together. Yeah, they did watch it together, and
he said, I still don't know how he held out
(38:50):
of the football. And people forget that with the Giants,
Phil Simms was their quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
He was hurt. Jeff Hosteler led them to the.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Super Bowl NFC championship, and that's right.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, it's a hell of a run for him.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
So when people talk about, well, you have to win
with superstar quarterbacks, I don't disagree with that, but there
are plenty of examples. But everybody turns to Trent dilferd
Nick Foles, Nick Foles, Jeff Hostetler's a pretty good example.
J Yeah, yeah, those are those are the most commonly, like,
you can get there.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Vince Verra gambo got his team.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
To a super Bowl. They didn't win it. Jake de Long,
but he got there. Jake Delon's are really good example. Yeah,
all of them actually, yeah, so all of them really
good examples. Speaking of football, the Lions are are ready
for the charges.
Speaker 11 (39:34):
We hope tomorrows. Yeah, that's stunned me. That's dounne me
for a moment.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
You're not gonna see Tate Ratledge or teylerk Williams tomorrow,
neither the first or the second round pick.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Neither one.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
According to Dan campbellon I just ruined Ricky's dead. He's
out of the boot.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Ricky's like, look, I'm gonna sit in the chair of
the rest of Kissed Off.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
So what we were told by Dan Campbell is I
think he's gonna They're gonna play against Atlanta. Okay, they're
not playing in preseason game number one. Why would that be?
Where's the benefit there?
Speaker 7 (40:16):
That's weird.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
Dan Campbell and the new NFL coaches, they don't like
their players playing in game one.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Kind of like when I was playing. They don't Game one.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
We didn't play Like when I played those four games,
you didn't play Game one. They just have me do it.
I don't like it. From the standpoint, there's only three games.
You don't have that much time. You want to get
some reps out there against someone that is not wearing
the same helmet as you once the season starts. But
maybe from this point sheep that first preseason game, you're
(40:44):
gonna have a lot of guys that.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Are not gonna make rosters playing in this game.
Speaker 8 (40:48):
You're gonna have a lot of guys that are out
there trying to make things happen. They're gonna be all
over places. It's gonna be wild a little bit. It's
reckless abandonment. It's a little bit chaotic in game one,
especially this new seventeen game season. NFL, do you want
to have to league Williams and Tate Radis out there
with guys that are trying to overly prove they belong
to the Los Angeles? This is this is me trying
(41:09):
to find the method and why, Like, do you want
to have those guys out there when you got guys
that are out there reckless abandonment that may not be
out there. They're trying to do any and everything, maybe
even some Christian Wilkins type things, but they're doing trying
to do.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Any of like I did that didn't.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Like that little grabage. No, but they're trying to do
any and everything. And do you want your guys in
there to get a dumb injury as somebody on the
charge is trying to prove to Jimmy Harbaugh the Hey,
I belong on the charges and I want to show
you that I want to start today with the enthusiasm
unknown to mankind.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It's a fair point. And as you know, there's usually
three preseason games because.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
You're playing in the Hall of Fame game, you get
four this yearwons excuse me?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Do the Chargers Well you knew that.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
You just said three because that's what everybody else get.
The only the only thing I wonder about is if
you're getting used to the speed of the sport and
it is different. It's going to be different for Tate
Ratlis than it was at Georgia. It's gonna be different
for Williams than it was at Ohio State. Those are
just facts. The NFL is much faster.
Speaker 8 (42:10):
Though, like is it in Game one. The NFL is
faster in the sense of the veterans studying the game
and knowing the game and being out there like this
is a lot of young guys that play in these
first games, a lot of guys that don't.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Do you think the Chargers are resting? Like why not
give them at least a couple of series? I guess
would be the question I have. Okay, just to get
used to the terminology and all the different nuances.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
I'm on the same team. Like I told you, I
do not like the fact that they don't play in
game one. I think you get all the reps that
you can, especially against opposit
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