LIONS MUST WIN GAME VS RAVENS?! | The Braylon Edwards Show | September 18th, 2025

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Speaker 5 (01:32):
This is going to be a big show man on
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in this city. He is the man. He is, Brailan Edwards,
kool Aid and Ryan is with us. Well this beautiful
looking Thursday question for it last night? Yeah, during the
Tigers Guardians game in which I apparently I made a
mistake in praise to the opposition.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Uh, he hears you.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, Stephen Kwan, I think is a really good player,
and I think Jose Ramirez is an outstanding player, and
I called him an underrated player. So there's two aspects
to this. The feedback on Kwan was I hate the
guy because he's so good you as a professional athlete.
Was it a bigger compliment for an opposing fan base

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to say I really like that guy or I hate
that guy because of what he does to my team.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
First and foremost, Hello everybody, I hope you guys are
doing well in the chat, shep, It's gonna be with
you as always, my man Ryan and my right hand
kool Aid over there. I'm always extremely happy on Thursdays
because it's haircut Thursday. So you know, oh, is I
guess one of them saying, you know when when men
get grown and you get a haircut, much like women
you get your hair done, is feel good. It's a

(03:00):
different elevation and you know what you feel about yourself,
So feel good. Let's start there. I would say hate it,
because what hated means is respect. When people like you,
that's either one you're too nice and it just you know,
you're playing for the line. I don't know how to
explain now, and let's just stay with the hate. When
they hate you, they respect you. Like Michigan State. They
hate me. But in the midst of the conversation about

(03:22):
them telling me why they hate me, it comes up.
You know, No, you're a real You're a real athlete.
We appreciate the rivalry. Same thing like when I'm in
the league. When I was with the Jets, the Dolphins
fans they hate me. They absolutely hate me. Baltimore Ravens
fans say they hate me. I was one of the
guys that kind of slipped through the cracks of those
good defenses Durell Reeves before I got to the Jets,
and even when I was there, it's going with him

(03:42):
in practice. Man, I hate you disrespect, disrespect going against
you is difficult. But as a fan base, if you
hate a player, that means that that player is a
bane in your existence. He is a thorn in your side.
And I think that's what the hate is. It's not
truly I hate this person. I hate him because of
what he does of my team. It's a badge of
badge on. So give me the hay if you like me,

(04:03):
I might be out here dropping passes. You know, I
maybe one of the players that we know we can
count on him to insert player, insert things. So to
be hated is we respect his game.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
That that would not be equivalent for Ben Johnson, though,
I think there's a I think there's a much different
feeling there. Okay, I hate using that word and I
just used it, but I don't like it used in sports.
I don't like it really in life either. But hating
all this other stuff. So that's that was interesting. The
other thing I thought about, since he's a friend of yours,
Jose Ramirez, shout out to one of the best third

(04:36):
basement in all baseball? Who got my man here tickets
to the game the other night? And he's really good.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
That's his cousin. That's why I appreciate all right.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
A lot of love for him. Got to get your
number after I wanted to ask it. I want to
ask you about this. Yeah, I said that I think
he's underrated, and I'm wrong about that. I think the difference,
what is the difference, betwe been being underrated and rated
or not talked about? When you are a seven time

(05:07):
All Star and a five times Silver Slugger, I think
you're not underrated. However, if we don't talk about you
as some of the best, as one of the best
players in your sport, Like when I ask you, if
we you and I did a quick back and forth.
Let's go best players in baseball. We go back and

(05:28):
forth with Judge and Otani and Harper and Bets and
Freeman and all these other guys. Right, how many how
long does it take for us to get to Jose Ramirez?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I think you get there before ten? Realistically, Wow, I
think you.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Get there before I wish you were right. I don't
think that's the case unless you were right.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Maybe that's the bias that I live in the Central
Division area, so maybe I live in this territory. I
know about Jose Ramirez, and I think everybody else should
I think he's one of the top twelve thirteen players
in the league, and maybe they won't mention him there.
So also, where are you from. It's the city, the team,
the franchise you played for. I don't see Cleveland doing
a lot of national so I think a lot of
times too, how good you are it depends on where

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you are at. What is that franchise, Like, are they
typically a team that people follow that don't live in
the area. You know, Are you a Fernando Tattoos playing
for the San Diego Padres. People follow the Padres regardless
if you live in San Diego or not. I think
that's where he happens to have the unfortunate spot. He
lives in Cleveland. He plays for the Guardians, and they're
not instially pumping him out there.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Well they should be, uh he is he is the
face of their franchise.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Well, Mike Trout was the face of the league, and
the Angels weren't trotting him out there playing intended.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Nope, yeah like that.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
He did a subway commercial. I don't know how much
that matters this. That would be a very.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Eight m v ps. I need more than a subway commercially.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
I'm with you on that, yeah, and I know some
of it it was his own doing. He didn't he
wanted to stay private as much as he possibly can.
I think you can respect that.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
You're right, you're right, But.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
I don't think baseball players in general getting nearly enough publicity.
I don't think hockey players do either. Football players and
basketball players definitely do. They run their leagues properly, they
market their athletes. Hockey players have said this forever. They
can do a terrible job of marketing their players and
marketing their sport.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Let me let me ask you this, since the steroid scandals,
since Baoco, since when they really were promoting the baseball players,
and then before the league did the dive, when the
viewership drastically doing. Since they've gotten the viewership back, since
they've gotten the sport back on track too, they're now
they're going up, they're rising, if you will, do they

(07:40):
know how to now market their players to this new
generation because they stopped marketing their players years ago. Outside
of the Yankees, the Dodgers, and franchises that you follow
like the Boston Red Sox, they don't have to do
much marketing because it's the Red Sox. It is a brand.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
What is the way to market athletes these days? Do
you think? Because you know what the old day, the
old Davis television obviously, right, Hey, I'm Bob Yucker. I'm
going to be a doing Miller like commercial. John Madden
did the same thing. Now it's phones.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's phones, Okay, it's phones. It's a social climate. It's
getting you outs out there in the community, creating something
that people want to see outside of just being a
baseball player, outside of just being a hockey player. Who
are you hockey?

Speaker 5 (08:19):
We mark not being a spokesman for some type of
service or some type of brand.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
No, no, no, not at all. Obviously we talked about
the subway commercial with Mike Trout, but I think nowadays
it's more it's I'm around Saint Brown doing a podcast
and from that podcast comes influencers and new new community people.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
That that's not the lead promoting him Brelan, but that's
himself promoting his own That's.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Part of the league does some of that as well, though,
like now at Ohio State and bigger schools, it starts
in college, like they we brand you will Bland, your
will brand, your son will brand your daughter. That's why
we bring them here. They start the branding process early
and it continues once you get to the NFL. When
I was back at Jets camp, they're pulling their players
in a in a room doing quick tiktoks, are doing
quick things on social media all the time, all the time,

(09:04):
because as the brand gets out there in different spaces,
you bring more eyes to the product.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
I think that's brilliant and I think it's the right answer.
I just might be a slight deviation for me, and
that what is the national brand? That is something that
if you're following the Jets, that's great. Braylan Edwards follows
the Jets. Kool Aid, Ryan and Shep don't sorry, I'm
a third person. We don't follow the Jets. I'm talking
about from a national brand. And I'm not talking about

(09:29):
those awful insurance commercials that have them looking across from
the CEO and tapping at the end of it, okay,
because that's really uncomfortable. I'm talking. I'm talking about national
commercials that they do. Mookie Betts. Did I think dairy Queen?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay? For what it's worth, Okay, you bring in Mookie
Bets and that brings up another good point. I think
it's two for one there's a language barrier. One there's
a language barrier, and two they gotta win some games. Now,
you gotta win some games. The guys that you market
are typically winers.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
And say language barrier, do you mean the foreign hockey
players and foreign baseball player?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Baseball players for sure, Okay, they're always quick bits. If
it's a tattoo or if it's a Lindoor like, it's
quick bits. But those two guys has a superstars and
they playing markets in New York, playing San Diego like
you gotta be a winner is the one thing that
guardians haven't floated around the winning circle.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Agreed.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Agreed with that. I don't think there's a language bearer
with Francisco Lindoor or Fernando Tatis.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Both are not them, I'm saying, but there are lines
and commercials is very short, it's not too many. But
they're super super superstars. So all of the just stars
are just good stars. They're like, do we want to
take a national spot for Jse Mirrors? It plays in Cleveland,
and there's a language barrier.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
That definitely would be a language with Jose Ramires. Although he's,
as you know, a genuine dude.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
You know, he's a really great guy, and he really is.
I mean, I know people will get pissed off at
it because he plays for Cleveland. He really is, has
been one of my favorite players for a long time.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Do you hate him?

Speaker 5 (10:58):
No, I don't hate him. I mean I I really
like him. I would love to have him on my team.
He's one of the probably one of the first guys
I would choose to be on my team. Him and
Bobby Witt Junior, and Aaron Judge and Mookie Bets, guys
like that. I absolutely adore guys like that Gunner Henderson.
But I think guys like that aren't marketed a because,
like you said, the language bearer, but also because, you know,

(11:20):
I think there is some privacy that some of these
guys want. They don't need it quite yet. I mean,
look at what he did. He took so much less
money for Cleveland when he could have made a boatload
more when he was on the open market.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
They don't have to worry about a lot of things.
At the other leagues and other players, especially one particular
league you know I'm talking about, I have to worry about.
So there's a lot of pass no money, and there's
a lot of laid backs up. And to your point,
they're not necessarily chasing those deals. Mike Trout didn't have
to chase down Pepsi and Nike and all those things
because he was still making thirty eight million a year
and he was still doing his damage. So you live

(11:53):
in California, how public do you want to be? That
makes a lot of sense. They're super chill. Maggie was
living in is huge masson Ranolf Jefferson. Everybody knows what
the house is sitting on fifty or forty two million
year and just chilling that in black Rock, Yeah, chilling
that insert chill spot here. Yeah, and not looking for

(12:14):
I'm a triple crown guy and let me go get Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
I think you're absolutely right about the baseball aspect. I mean,
because of the amount of money that they bring in. Look,
the rookie of the minimum isn't as much as you know,
and we get caught up in the big, big numbers
with superstar players, and I understand that the minimum is
not what you might think. Compared to basketball anyway, Hockey

(12:37):
is even less or close to it. Hockey. Actually the
minimum might be a little bit more. I got to
look that up. But like Alexandrovatchkin, language barrier for sure
is promoted on NHL Network, But how many other commercials
is he doing Sidney Crosby, how is Connor McDavid not
doing it? I'm sure he does him in Canada, but
he's not even doing them in the United States. And

(12:59):
that's a bit of an issue.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Would be an example of, like the language barrier not
mattering because of how great he is. Like, when you're
that great, it goes back to winning. He's won, he's scored.
The language barrier is actually part of the sweetness.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Of old Vegekin.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, something like that's kind of part of the charm,
is the language barrier, the missing teeth in the middle,
and how he's just he's just a guy that plays
hockey at an extremely elite level. He's super chill.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yeah, it's a really good point. But I've always wondered
about that a little bit. Did you get a lot
of endorsement opportunities when you were in any of the
spots you're at.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I got some do endorsement opportunities When I first
got to Cleveland, I did some stuff with Burger King,
also did some stuff with McDonald's, so those.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Are national brands. That's a big deal right there.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
That was my marketing agent, Ree Bergman. At the time.
He represented Jesse Palmer, who was the Bachelor played for
the Giants. He also represented rich Eisen shout to University
of Michigan, so I kind of like lucked up in
that regard. He was able to do some things on
the national level New York there were some cool spots.
Michigan are always in cool spots, So I gotta work
with some national brands. Did some national things, but it's tough.

(14:05):
It's few in between because they're looking for once again
I played in Cleveland that they're looking for the guy
that plays for the New York Giants, the New York Jets,
which I got lucky in that regard, plays for the
Pittsburgh Steelers, plays for insert one of the Green Bay Packers.
Even though they in the middle of nowhere. There's still
one of those teams that you can ease market. And
obviously you know what the machine is. The machine is

(14:27):
the Star.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah, the Dallas. Do you think that you tried to
get there? Did you really you tried to get to Dallas.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Crazy story. I'm in St. Thomas. This is twenty eleven.
This is the lock Aull year too, So I'm in
Sa Thimas twenty twelve. Hecuse it's a lock out year
twelve eleven. Yes, it is eleven. I'm in St. Thomas,
just enjoying the off season vacation a little bit and
with my boy Nick, Me and Nick Beam were chilling
at the bar. It's about twelve, sitting on some dakeries

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and there's this huge monstrosity in the water.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
You know what when time do it at the same
time as Saint Twminians do, thank whatever it is. But
we see this huge monstrats out there and I'm like, man,
who is that? This is at least one hundred and
hundred and eighty one hundred and seventy five foot I'm like,
this is Then opens the door and another boat comes out,
just like on Succession. If any of you watch the
show Succession, and man, this boat drives up. We watched

(15:21):
the whole process. Took about twelve minutes to drive up.
Docs has another little dinghy. They get off. They're walking up.
I see suits and I see two guys next to
this older gentleman. I'm like, I know that's not Jerry Jones.
He walks up closer and closer, and closer's Jerry Jones.
We me tell how Dowd and Jerry Jones is to

(15:43):
the game. And you can say whatever you want to
about Jerry Jones. You're probably right, and we do, but
you better say this. He knows the game and he
knows the players around the game. So he's coming up
to the beach. I say, hey, mister Jones, how you
doing to introduce me? He said, oh, Braklan, that come
on you. You don't think I know you? Man. We
like to have a receiver for your class. I was like,
say so, so it's a lock on anybody. I said,

(16:06):
that's probably on the master offer. So let's do this business.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
I'll go sign it on that boat right now, I said.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
But as soon as I saw Jay in person, you know,
it's real, Like the Dallas thing, I'm start thinking the star.
I'm like, wow, what if I got a chance to
play Michael Irvin and does Brian and you know, yeah,
that's what it.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Feels about in the Drew Pearson's of the world.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
But it's the marketing. It's what we watched on his
documentary of his documentary on Netflix. It's the marketing machine,
and Jerry has always been I saw live. It was
like an or around him. I'm like, I gotta get
it down.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Who else? What other teams? Well, your your college team.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Is like that, Michigan.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And by the way, I was right.
NBA minimum salary one point one mil, NFL seven fifty,
MLB seven twenty, NHL seven seventy five.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Surprise you, No, no, no, it gets tricky too when you
start to the veteran the minimum yeah, starts to go.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, but I just want to let you know the
minimum salary for those four major sports. So I said,
I thought hockey was just a little bit higher than baseball,
and that's true. Besides Dallas, what is what are the
other franchises that are or have that aura?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
The Lakers, the Yankees, Lakers, Yankee Celtics, whether you like
the Celtics or not, they still have that or I.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Will go ahead and say it.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's gotta get ship going early on in the show.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
No, look, there's a misconception. I love the Pistons. The
slappiness sometimes yeah is much all right.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's all I'm not gonna let cool. You can't even
mention that right now, so I'll cut you off.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
He's got that. You're a kid, your kid. You look
at your brother, your sister or whatever, look at your parents,
and you're trying to follow the rules, and you know
what they're doing. They're pushing the envelope. Man, And that's
what kool aid is. Kelly gives you that look. He
looks at you like he looks at you. He's at
five years old. He's at five years old, and mom

(18:15):
and dads, don't touch the damn of it. It's hot
in his hands. Don't touch the stove. It's too damn hot.
And kol just look at me. He goes, that's what
you shouldn't said. You shouldn't say you can't exactly on
don't you say you can't? What about the San Francisco
forty nine ers? Yeah, I would say, And when it
comes to behind Dallas, I probably would say Pittsburgh over

(18:37):
San Francisco. Green Bay, Yeah I think so. Would you
argue that there are more in football than any other sport, Yeah,
I would too.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Because baseball like out outside the Yankees and the Red Sox.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Well, I wouldn't put Boston.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
There, then that's okay, Dodgers so or I would say
the Cardinals.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Cardinals, I would, but that's me. I'm kind of a
baseball guy. They got eleven championships, that's the second most.
I don't know if that's that's not necessary the be
all end all. I think people know the Dodgers. We
I think we do talk about teams that get shoved
down our throat. Yes, and let's be honest, as you
are right about Dallas. It does get shoved down our throat.

(19:23):
The Yankees and Red Sox gets shoved down our throat.
And if I'm those franchises and I'm the those fan bases,
I'm like, giddy up, I'm all for it. Don't get
me wrong in that.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Guess we need to change. We had this conversation yesterday
about what's a story franchise or either piss is a
story team, And now we're talking about or if we're
gonna say or, we're gonna say glow for whatever reason
that glow exists. I think an or doesn't necessarily have
to do a championship wins. So if we want to
die didn't like that, Let's start over, We'll start with football,
the Dallas Cowboys. I'll wait for the second team. The

(19:55):
Pittsburgh still is, Yes, okay, there's I think there's an
aura there fair Pittsburgh still is. There is a because
even though they sucked in the last ten years, you
still wouldn't watch a game like but it still looks
like it used to look maybe.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Even though they suck.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Pittsburgh Dallas. Would you say the Patriots right now, No.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
I would not because the Patriots but we're not talking
about right now. Would you say the Patriots have an
or about him?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
No, tom Brady had an oring about Tom Brady. I
would have no disrespect to the other however, players won
those seven Super Bowl title six super Bowl title teams.
But it's Tom Brady because before he got there, there
was no or, and after he's gone, there was no.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
You don't know.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
You don't know who the hell Steve Grogan is. You
don't know who Tony Easton.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I don't even know who they drafted last year, like
Drake may is a really good quarterback with a bunch
of guys and just fillers right now.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yeah, I mean, maybe you remember Christian Gonzalez from a
couple of years ago because he's a corner. But if
I said to you, who's before Tom Brady started in
the Super Bowl for the Patriots, who was the first
Patriot quarterback to start.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
In the Super gro you got eighty five?

Speaker 5 (20:54):
No, it's Tony Easton. Tony Easton who played in Illinois.
He was the starting quarterback and he looked frightened and
I'm not laughing about that. He looked frightened against the
eighty five Bears, and rightfully so. So they actually jumped
out to a lead against him. But anyway, so I
would say no to New England.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
If you're gonna say still is a you have to
say to forty nine ers.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Okay, but your I think your example of green Bay
is a really good one.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Green Bay and they still have the mistake. We talked
about Lambo filing a lot before the Lions game, so
that's part of it. So okay, then what about the Giants? No,
was their mistake about the Giants before the last ten years? No, Okay,
I don't.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
I don't think so that's just me. So I think
there's probably four or five legitimate in the NFL Baseball Yankees.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I don't think Cardinals, But that's not me.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
That's okay. Look, there's no right answer here. That's how
you feel. I think the Cardinals because of some of
the greatest players who've gone through. He's just like Saint
Louis and I love Body, especially in Game six, Game
seven in the nineteen sixty eight World Series. But he's
just amazing anyway, some of the great players. But it's

(22:06):
an unbelievable baseball town. We were there four years ago.
We did our TV open from the Saint Louis Cardinals
Hall of Fame. It's right across the street from the ballpark.
So I said to our producer, Hey, I'd like to
do the open at the baseball at the Saint Louis
Hall of Fame. Made sure that we did it in

(22:28):
front of nineteen sixty eight when the Tigers came back
and beat Bob Gibson and promoted. But it's an amazing
place to go. I wish Detroit had one. I think
Detroit should have one, Okay, whether it be the Tigers
or all their sports. I was ridiculed because I made

(22:48):
it out to be too much of a good baseball town.
I think Saint Louis is arguably the best baseball town
in America.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, that a million times. Yeah, it's good to be
something to it.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
There's something to it. You're Boston. I shot it down,
but you're probably right about that. And the Dodgers I
think would be right too.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's just one you don't like to admit because it's Boston.
What about the win excuse me, the Montreal Canadians.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, so Montreal has the second most championships in all
of sports. Only the Yankees have more. They have been
dormant for a long time.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
To oilers saying oilers.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
The oilers would I don't think would there you go
earlier you were saying championships don't matter. You're saying Tom
Brady was, it was Gretzky. I mean, the names were unbelievable.
Sean Beleigium might disagree with me here. I do think
if you're going to talk about Montreal, I do think
the Red Wings are one of those.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
My next question, yeah, I really do.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
I think the Red Wings because of their lineage, because
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(24:09):
told something enough times, people just gravitate toward it and
say that's what it is. And I think that helps them.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I did some research and speaking of hockey Town and Stevie,
why the question of patience is now coming up as
it relates to Stevie. Why you bike up a good point?
Then who you're bringing in? Why I wait this long
and then go in the different direction. You're one hundred
percent correct. Fourteen years, that's what we're waiting on. Yet
fourteen years, you're fourteen will win it up because drafted

(24:37):
in nineteen eighty three, fourteen years later he won it off.
So I'm going six more years will have to suffer.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
I'm not sure he'll be in the position any longer.
If it takes fourteen years. I'm not going to say
he's on the hot seat. I don't think he's unnecessary
on the hot seat. But you can tell that the
natives are getting very restless. They are, and they have
every right to be. Yeah, okay, it's not that I
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(25:05):
used to be pissed off about twenty five straight playoff appearances,
third most in the history of the league. I said,
you want to blow it up, you want to start
all over. These things are difficult, especially in hockey. Because
I'm drafting Brailan Edwards at eighteen, I don't know what
I have yet, and by the time Brailean Edwards is ready,
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Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Okay, everybody thought Anthony Mantha was great, okayvill Yeah was
he was? He great? Not like he wasn't the queue.
He was really good in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League.
That doesn't that's not the NHL. Your roll in the
proverbial dice on that. So that's why rebuilds in hockey

(25:49):
and I would argue baseball are the two hardest. In basketball,
I can draft Kid Cunningham, He's going to immediately make
me that much better. Now, it's going to take you
a while. Isaiah Thomas, we went through when Isaiah Thomas
was drafted, and when they wore the gray uniforms for
crying out loud and they played at Joe Louis Arena
a couple of times, and the silver Dome, So that

(26:09):
took some time. But once you get a couple of
guys here there, you know, baseball, you gotta wait for
the guys to cultivate. We're waiting on Max Clark, We're
waiting on Kevin mcgonagah, We're waiting on Max Anderson. How
good are they going to be?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Right?

Speaker 5 (26:21):
We don't know that, And the same thing in hockey.
I think that's why that's been a serious problem for him.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I understand him.

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Speaker 5 (34:20):
Tied at one. Bottom of the fifth, Tigers and Guardians
tied at one. Detroit struck first a Colt Keith doubled
that scored Spencer Torkelsen, and then a John Kessey Noel
home run off kerk'schoogle, just his fifth home run of
the season's Big Strong Kid. They are tied at one.

(34:42):
I'm not I'm not sure what's going to take to
calm the Tiger fans down a little bit because getting
shut out by Cleveland yesterday, already losing the series, because
it's a three game set and the full freak out
mode is in swing. The It's Terrek Schooble day belief

(35:07):
is legit. But as I've said time and time again,
even the best have bad days. Okay, there was a
time where Tom Brady threw more than one pick in
a game. There's a time where Tom Brady lost. There's
a time where Terrek's school has lost. All right, So
it looks like a pretty good game so far. One

(35:28):
to one. We'll see what happens. But if they get
swept by Cleveland, because everybody just assumed it was a win.
If they get swept by Cleveland, the leads down to
three and a half. Right, they fall further back of Toronto.
Houston and Seattle are catching up. Going into play today,
New York had as many wins as Detroit did.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I'm not liking the sound.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Suddenly you feel like, uh oh, there's a little bit
of some vulnerability.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, the vulnerability that I think people were nervous about
two weeks ago, three weeks ago, and they found a
way to calm the levels enough to put us at ease.
And then the chase was eleven, and then the chase
was seven, and now you have three games in a row,
two you lost, and now you're fighting for that third one.
It just feels like it's starting to unravel at the seams.
But when I listened to excuse me, not unraveled at

(36:19):
the sceams. But it just seems like as we get
closer and closer, the limp is getting more and more.
That makes sense listening to the flagship, I was listening
to A J. Hinch and AJ Hinch. I don't know
if it's because Trek Scool was on the mound today.
I don't know if everyone's at ease when he's on
the mound. It's a different or speaking of that word.
When School was on the mind, you feel good, you
feel safe, here's a win. That's how you felt. That's

(36:41):
how you sounded. He didn't sound like anything bothered him.
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
I think he's a pretty cool cat anyway, right, I mean,
he'll try to convince you he's just confident with Charlie
Morton on them on these days as he would be
with Justin Verlander. And you know that's just his persona,
that's who he does. The home runs are bound to happen,
all right, I mean power pitchers, that this happens with

(37:05):
power pitchers. When Justin Verlanders last Cy Young in Houston
was in twenty nineteen, I believe he gave up home
run wise, he got a thirty six bombs. That's a
lot of homers. Power pitchers are bound to do that.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Now.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
School hasn't given up that many by any stretch. But
there is a legitimate concern about this team. And I
don't even know if it's quite that they could win
the division. I think it's about how far they can
go in the playoffs. And when you have one isolated
area that you're concerned about, that's one thing. Oh, it's

(37:42):
let's use the lines. It's fixable. Because the communication in
Green Bay wasn't very good, all right, The defense wasn't
bad right. As a matter of fact's the second half.
Detroit has the best defense in the National Football League
through two weeks in the second half. So we could
concentrate on one area and if you can fix that area,
that's great. I think what's happening with Tigers fans here
and they can tell me I'm wrong in the chat,

(38:05):
is they believe there's more than one area that needs
suing up. It's the starting pitching. Then you see the
bullpen go a ride two nights ago, and now you're
seeing the offense struggle a little bit, and it has struggled.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
As of late. Yeah, it has. It's uh, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
What's what's the feeling when you watch them? Are you
waiting for something bad to happen? Or are you waiting
for something good to happen?

Speaker 12 (38:35):
Thinking it is I was gonna say, just to even
piggyback on your point right now, I believe it's because
a lot of the things that we knew we could
depend on, the things that got us to the least
to the prospects of expecting playoffs and more last year.
Those things aren't as sure this year, and I think
that that's what is starting to really destabilize some of
the fans that in the past might have just been

(38:56):
still ardently, you know, fan, a fan of what the
Tie are doing and what they can do. Versus this
year when you see, all, right, those strengths that we've
been able to rely on in the past, are they
still the strengths that we're able to rely What.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Were the strengths a year ago besides the bullpen that
you relied on and felt good about going into the
series against Houston and then Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, they you know what.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
I like the starting pitching last year.

Speaker 12 (39:20):
I like the fact that the Bats as they were
going into the playoffs had gotten a lot more hot
than they were in the first half of the season.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Everything that they were couldn't get much colder than that
first half.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
They couldn't. But they did get healthy too.

Speaker 12 (39:32):
I liked Carry Carpenter getting healthy and coming back and
remember his insertion just after that trade deadline and getting
back those back to back to back games of home
runs and such.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
He's unlivable off clutch. Yeah, he's been super clutch. You know,
I don't disagree with that. I don't know anybody who
really liked their starting pitching last year outside of Tyerik's
Schoobel in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
The only thing that boys about the Tigers, And yeah,
I'll be done talking about the Tigers after this, because
this is the crux the thing that I think about
last year. They made this incredible run, right, you know,
they had a zero point zero one two four percent
to make the playoffs. They make the playoffs. They not
only make the playoffs, they win the first round in
the playoffs, and then they were in a dog fight

(40:14):
on the road, on the road in Houston, and then
in a dog fight on the road again against Cleveland,
And obviously we know how that went ended. But the
fact that they were there, when you're young, you're going
through they didn't. There was not any pressure on them
at all. There never was pressure on it, even schoob
even the pitching staffs that had this pitching chaos going on.
There was no pressure because there was a bunch of
young guys doing something that had no chance of being done.

(40:37):
They had no chance of hitting. And then it does
the difference between that team and this team, just in
my estimation, there's pressure on this team. There wasn't pressure
last year. There's pressure on play House money life they
were playing with house money. There's pressure on Labora tooris
when the playoffs comes around. There's pressure on Riley Green
to take that step and be the face of the team.
Like we say is there's pressure on Torque now that

(40:58):
we see that he can do what he did two
years ago and kind of fulfilled it, there's pressure on him.
There's pressure on Skooboo because if you're gonna be the
a's for the Detroit tig the only guy that's showing up,
you can't have a bad night. That's pressure that is extra.
So I'm just saying like this particular team is a
different team from last year, and it's a different scenario

(41:19):
that part I don't know, and it scares me for
this Tigers team.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
I do like that a lot, and I think you're right.
Last year I was in the minority, yeah, because everybody
thought it was awesome that they went to Houston and
won and they were almost satisfied that they pushed Cleveland
to the end, and I was in the minority saying
I completely disagree. I thought. I was a disappointment for
me because, as I always say, it's about expectations. Going

(41:43):
into last year, I expected him to win the division.
I thought they had the most talent in the division,
and they didn't. It's great that they made that comeback,
but that first half of the season stunk. Okay, and
people have to remember that that is not acceptable just
because you have to do that late search. They did
something that nobody's ever done with zero point two percent
chance of making the playoffs this.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Year, I admit you were disappointed.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
I was disappointed.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Scott Harris didn't even believe in the Detroit Tires team,
which is why he added all that the young talent
at the end of the season, like, hell, just get
in there, we'll see what we have.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
And all of it was really only one guy with
Jackson Joe.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
It was a couple moves, Okay, Yeah, I mean yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
I don't no offense to Scott Harris. I don't care
that Scott Harris didn't I thought they had the best
talent in the league, and I didn't think Kansas City
was as good. But Kansas City proved to be as
good because they have the same number of points and
Cleveland was better. Yeah, and that surprised me. I thought
Detroit should have been better during the regular season. I

(42:41):
don't think they should have put themselves in the situation
in the first place. I was happy for him, I
was really glad for all Tigers Nation and everything. But
this year I expected him to win the division. And
you know what, because we always say this, because the
league is so flipping wide open, why not us?

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Right?

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Well, why not? I expect them to win the division.
The four and a half game lead, if it dwindles
down to three and a half, it goes back to
up to five and a half. Whatever. I'm waiting for October.
I'm waiting for next month, and this team should reach
a minimum of the Alcus and.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
We better get to the next month. We better get
the next month.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
There's some people who are questioning more than just their ability.
I think it's ridiculous that they're not gonna make the playoffs,
but they're questioning that.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
And maybe you're right, Maybe this is a different level
of pressure. I say pressure loosely because I think you
guys are all under pressure. You were under pressure a
lot of Michigan. You're under pressure at Cleveland, the Jets.
I don't care where the hell you played. When your
name is associated the way it was, you're under pressure.
In San Francisco, there's pressure on you guys all the time.

(43:47):
So I believe that they had pressure on them last year, especially,
But once they got to the playoffs, maybe that's not
the case. But last year, remember that's a team that
felt like it played every playoff game down the stretch
in order to make the postseason. Cleveland's playing every play
Every game right now is a playoff game. They've won
six straight, they've won ten of eleven, they've won twelve

(44:10):
of fourteen. Why every game has been a playoff game
for them? And suddenly this is a cliche. They believe
they're hanging right there. It's one, one through five against
the best in the world.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
It's like the movie Majorly that was on last night.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Surprisingly enough, Eric Crouch is gonna join us. He's coming
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Super excited for that. It is not It does not

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It does not involve a wide receiver. No, you say it,
But you know what, you can't twist it to a
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is part of it, okay, But when we come back,
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Speaker 5 (51:49):
We've got Brailin's breakdown coming up at three o'clock. Super
pumped for that. I think it's one of the one
of the things that Chat loves more than anything else.
At least that's what the response we get.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Yeah, we wait for it.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
It's a lot of pressure. You talk about pressure, there's
a lot of pressure right now on Braylan Edwards because
each time, well yeah, each time you yes, you've got
to do each time you've got to exceed the past
Braylan breakdown. That's not an easy thing to do.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
It's no pressure, okay, all right, I'm glad you're ready
for it.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
No problems for him. I would I would be feeling
the pressure. I mean, the drips of sweat would definitely
be there. I've got a few things that I want
to bring up to everybody. You guys can chime in,
but I do want Braylan to start it off. Okay,
here we go, which owen two team in the NFL
is still most likely to make the playoffs? Which, oh

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and two team is still most likely to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I got two of these teams on here. I think,
I think you want me to just choose one. Whatever
you want to do, all right, well you said one,
I'll stick and I won't choose Kansas City. I'll leave
that be. I'll go with the Houston Texans. I go
to Houston Texans. I watch that offense against the Bucks.
I know what happened at the end of the game.
I still believe in this team. I still believe in
the quarterback. It looks like the offense is starting to

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find a little bit of rhythm, if you will. The
running back position. They missed Joe Mixon. They're trying to
work in. Nick Chubb trying to work and I can't
think of the other running backs name, but it looked
better Nico Collins. They found him early on in the game.
I think they'll find him some more. Dalton shots completely
disappeared in that first half, but it still is something
there on the defensive side of the ball, you can

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see how physical they are at the point of attack.
You can see those ends Will Anderson Junior and Daniel Hunter.
I think they they're one of the best teams in
terms of the duo edge rushers. They're a monster. And
then you still have Derek Stanley Junior arguably, if not
the best player, the best dB in the league not
named Patrick. Certain I think they're one and two right now.

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The defense is real, so they're on too. But I
think Demico Ryans will set in. I think they're still
trying to figure out some things, but I like them.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Yeah, their first down run have not been very good
at all. They are five and one. They were five
and one in the division last year. Off to a
struggling start so far, but I liked that you didn't
take the low hanging fruit. The low hanging fruit is
Kansas City. I doubt anybody has viewed Chicago and see
them as a possibility. That would stun me if somebody

(54:19):
said the Bears, considering how unorganized they look, let's put
it that way. I thought they looked disheveled in the
second half against Minnesota. They're already owned two in the
division and getting your ass kicked by Detroit as soundly
as they had exposed a lot of their weaknesses. I
still think Chicago is better than Miami, though Miami is horrific.

(54:42):
I actually think the Giants. Now it's tough in the NFC. Okay,
because Detroit and Green Bay, you're gonna have the South Tampa.
Let's just say the West either the Rams Niners are
pretty good, right and in the East you've got Philly.
Of course, you've got Washington unless there's a problem with
Jaden Daniels. We'll get to that in a minute. I

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actually don't think the Giants are that bad. I'm not
saying they're a playoff team, just saying I think they're
better than Chicago. I think they're better than Miami early impressions.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
That's because you have a defense. Yeah, that's the defense,
and he plays all the defense. Let them down a
little bit in that game against the Cowboys when they
won an overtime, but they have a defense. They Mason
plays a defense. Cabon and Thibodeau, who we talked about yesterday.
Dexter Lawrence is still in there doing his thing. They
got some defensive players and then Brian Burns is there
key in on that. I like him on that side.
And then Russ found his four hundred and fifty five yards.

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Russ found the found and if he made some plays
to elite neighbors, who is an amazing, amazing wide receiver.
He is next up out of LSU. It is not
Brian Thomas Junior, contrary to popular belief.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
Yeah, I think the problem Brailan, but is the region I.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Think they will be in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
I don't either. Yeah, I think their problem is you know,
they're averaging three point eight points per game per red
zone trip. If you're in the red zone, you've got
to start cashing in.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
The team that shares their stadium. Though, like I added
them on the list, this was my listen. It's not
because I'm wearing jests today. JT. Just yes, Jets, no listen.
At the end of the day, sometimes when you take
over these teams, you still have some personalities, are remnants
of the past, remnants of the non success, remnants of
the guys that you don't want the locker room, and
I think they have a little bit of that and

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they're trying to weed the final products out. But they
have defensive players. They got the Williams brothers making players
in there. They still have sauce on the outside. Though
they lost DJ Reed and then offense, they won game one,
they lost Game two. Excuse me. They lost Game two
close after putting up some good numbers on offense, had
some defensive lapses at the end of that game, and
the in game two they played a better team and

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they got blown out. We know a little bit about
getting blown out by a better team. So I think
Aaron Glenn will start to come into his own. The
team will start to rally and there will be a chance,
but they won't make it. They'll fall short maybe eight nine,
nine and eight.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Oh for eleven on third downs. That's that's not going
to cut it last time out. Tyrod Taylor, I mean,
I wouldn't necessarily complain about him as a backup.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Okay, he looked the best of the two when I
went to training camp this past summer.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Yeah, I remember you telling us, yeah, yeah, with some
good pictures there. And I think before Justin Fields left,
I think he was like three for eleven for twenty
seven yards or something like that. All right, that's good stuff.
So that's one topic which favorite is most vulnerable this weekend.
Which team easy that is favored to win is most

(57:32):
likely to fall?

Speaker 1 (57:33):
That's easy. I don't care that they beat the New
York Giants in overtime. I don't care that you had
Brian Shott and Hyri and the locker room talking about yep, yep, yep,
and and I don't care that they got the hype
going on in Dallas. It is the Dallas Cowboys. They
still are the same stinky team that they always are.
They find a way to get offensive points, but they
cannot close in the end when they're not playing Brian

(57:54):
Daball and the Russell Wilson led New York Giants. Give
me Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears to figure it
out against the Dallas Cowboys. The game is in Chicago,
and I don't think they can continuously lose. I think
the defense will holdt out four Ben Johnson and the Bears.
I think the Bears get to win in an ugly game.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
They're gonna have to score to do it right, because
Dallas can score. They may not be a very good
defensive team, but they can put up points.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
The Bears can score on the first drive of the game.
They're gonna have to put some more of those together,
is what it is. I think this is the one.
I hate this thought. I hate when people say, well,
it eventually has to happen. That's one of the dumbest things. Ever, however,
it eventually has to happen.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Lions owned sixteen. Eventually it had to happen.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
They won the next year Game one.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Good for them. That was a long long time between.
When when you talk about teams that might be able
to stage an upset, does Baltimore and the Lions enter
your thought at all? Knowing that Lamar Jackson Braylyn has
talked glowingly about this. Lamar Jackson's twenty four and two
all time against NFC teams. He is also seven and

(59:03):
two on Monday Night Football, and during Monday Night Football
he has thrown twenty two touchdowns and zero picks. Does
it enter They've got they're susceptible to the run. Detroit
ran the ball really well last week, granted Chicago, granted
at home, granted you know, turf, which seems to benefit them.

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Do they even enter your consciousness with something like that.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
I think it's going to be a better game than
people think. But I'm still going with the Baltimore Ravens.
The thing you want to do with Lamar Jackson, you
want to keep him containing. The Lions are good up
front in the middle, They've played good ball up front.
Salak Williams has played pretty good in his first two
games as a rookie, and then the big fella next
to him, DJ Reed. They've played well in the middle. However,
it's on the outside that bothers us. The same conversation.
We're having eight and Hudson on one side will be

(59:54):
getting double team. Who's come off that right side?

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Well, Muhammad's been pretty good. I'm trying to sell you because.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
They'll have a this is Mohammed versus Lamar Jackson, Like
this is like if you're legitimately telling me the guy
that was supposed to be the fourth string defensive end
is going to be the guy that we're parading out there,
Lamar Jackson. That's why I can't go for that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
I feel like an idiot. I feel like an absolute
idiot for even bringing that up. But I had to
bring it up. Yeah, because Marcus Davenport, it sure doesn't
seem like he's gonna play right. He won when a
head coach says at the beginning the week, we'll have
to wait to the end of the week. That's not
a good sign, all right. When he says it in
the middle of the week, I should say, and he's
saying we'll have to wait to the end of week,
it's not a good sign. So I'm assuming Mohammed's gonna start.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
On the offensive side of all. The thing that I
want to see is not that. Don't worry about his
think that. I just want to see the offense. The
running game was better, but the running game still wasn't clean.
Like outside of the one touchdown Jamier scored on the
opening touchdown that he scored, it was a clean run.
Nobody touched him, he didn't get touched. It looked remembrance
of last year a little bit the year before that.
A lot of this is a lot of this is

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Jamier Gibbz making some plays, David Montgomery forging her still
wasn't necessarily super clean the run game to make me confident.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Okay, that's I mean, you are one tough ass critic.
They rush for one hundred and seventy seven yards. Man,
I don't know if I can ask for a whole
lot more. I think I thought, I thought their run
game was really good. I was impressed with it. And
as you and I have talked before off camera, and
that is not every run is going to break it, right.
I mean a lot of it is you're getting three,

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you're getting four yards, and that those types of runs
allow you to break the big ones.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
My thing is what Jamiir gives. If Jamiir gives, isn't
the most elusive running back the NFL is seen since
Chris Johnson. If he's not that Chris, don't have ninety
six yards, excuse me, if Jami doesn't have ninety six
yards rushing. He had to be a special running back
to have that ninety six yard steady accumulated. It wasn't
because of the offensive press. It wasn't because the push
off the ball or the drive. It's because one he's

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elite and he's the fastest running back since Chris Johnson.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Okay, last one for you and then got it was
much better than we'll get the Brillin's breakdown coming up.
The last one I got for you is tell me
which team should be most comfortable with its backup quarterback
this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I would say ask for options. But I'm pretty I'm
leaning is Carson went to the backup. He's a starter, now, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
What I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
I'm sorry the backup. Yeah, Carson Wentz is in Minnesota.
Jake Browning is in in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
It's one of them, Percenting, It's not even close. This
is the same offense as Sam darna One. The thing
about Carson Wentz, yeah, you may not like to him
in his last two stops, but he's a veteran quarterback
and you saw in Indianapolis. You give him offensive line,
you give him some weapons. He can make some things happen.
He does dumb stuff, which is why he didn't make
the playoffs, but he still won eleven games or eleven
games that season. He's not going to go in there

(01:02:43):
and muck it up. Like he is a veteran quarterback.
He understands what he has. He understands he's got one
of the best way receivers, if not the best wide
receiver in the league. He's got some tight ends that
can make some plays, and you got some running backs.
Don't muck it up. You got a good offensive line,
good protection. He'll take what's given to him. He won't
be doing the the young thing, or he won't be
doing the trying to figure it out thing. He's a

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veteran this game. He's gonna take what comes to him,
much like much like Allen did when he came into
the preseason. Like much like that, I'm gonna just come here,
I'm just gonna mess it up. I'm gonna take what's there.
I trust myself. I'm gonna trust what Johnny Moories put
before me, not gonna for things. And that's what Carson.
Sam Donald did that yea he did, And yes, Sam
Donald had a really good year. Sam Donald was at

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one point a first round overall quarterbacks. You had give
him some respect, but you know what Sam had been.
Carson has always been a decent quarterback. Hell, if he
doesn't get hurt, he might win the MVP the year
they go to the super Bowl. So I think having
that in there somewhere, he's not gonna mess this up.
This is a really good team on offense, really skilled positions.
They got some offensive line, and Kevin O'Connell is your

(01:03:47):
head coach and offensive coordinator. I think Carson Wentz is landslide.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
It's interesting you say that just because Tyrod Taylor. Oh
was a guy you were praising earlier, and you saw
him in camp when you went to Jets camp. In
the Mac Jones just through three touchdowns last week for
San Francisco. He's got plenty of starts under his belt.
And Marcus Mariota, yeah, is a former first round pick.
He started plenty of games, and he's gonna start for

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Jayden Daniels in Washington. So I didn't expect Jake Browning
from you, don't get me wrong, Carson Wentz considering he
hasn't played in a while, is a little bit of
a surprise for him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Yeah, Mac Jones and somebody I don't trust. I don't
care about the three hundred yards. I just don't like
him as a quarterback and I don't think they have
enough on offense for him to keep it rolling. That
was the New Orleans Saints. Let's slow down with who
they played for those three touchdowns. Three touchdowns as of respect,
but it was the New Orleans Saints, who I expect
lose the Cardinals this week. So yeah, I don't see

(01:04:43):
Mac Jones And then with.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
It does help Wentz is playing against Cincinnati's defense.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Also with Marcus Mariota, like he's been he's been washed.
Marcus Mariota was Washington, Tennessee. He went to Vegas and
that whole thing had a couple of good players, but
when it was time to play play struggle, couldn't hack it.
And then he goes to Atlanta, he couldn't be out
Desmond Ritter. Yeah, let me say that again. He couldn't
beat out Desmond Ridder from Cincinnati, So I'll pass.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
But he was on the Netflix series Quarterback, so I'm
a little surprise, which I still can't get over. I
don't know who the hell's producing that series, and I
love the series, but I don't know who the hell's
producing going here's an idea for us, what do you want.
We're gonna put Patrick Mahomes check, We're gonna put Kirk
Cousins check. I'm gonna put Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
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Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
Why? Why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Because I think they needed every year. If this is
how I slayed it in my mind, I'm glad you
brought that up because Kirk Cousins then became the Marcus Mariota.
The next season, they have a superstar. Then you got
that quarterback that is a star. But people don't think
it's the one. I e Jericoff this season. I eat
Kirk Cousins that this season that I'm talking about. Then

(01:05:52):
you have the guy that's on the bubble and probably
on his way out the league. They give you three
different story types so you got more people following and
he's out the next season, And Kirk Cousins becomes a
quarterback that gets benched and now he's trying to figure
it out and do the thing. Jared Goff becomes your
Kirk Cousins, and then Josh Allen becomes your Patrick Mahone.
They got to keep his superstar started. People don't necessarily

(01:06:13):
fully believe in without weapons. And then a guy that's
like Russell Wilson will be the guy next year.

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because he's a producer as well as a host.

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How about that?

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Can we do that?

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By the way, Cleveland leads to Tigers three to one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Let's give him some fun to talk about. You know
what I'm saying. Guess why that's why.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
Jose Ramirez hit a two run bomb. Our chat is off.

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Tyler Holden melting down right now, off.

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Of Tyler Holden.

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Yeah, over here so that I know you're not.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
But this is again, we're not. We're not sitting here
to a great job. Terror School will give you seven strong,
all right. He gave up one run, Not a big deal, right.
The offense is struggling right now, damn it. I mean
you need more than one guy. I'm sorry, you need
more than one guy. And I think when we look back,
it's funny how this year people are gonna say, if

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if the Lions don't take advantage of this, they don't
have a defensive end. Shame on Brad Holmes. Is anybody
saying that about the Tigers and starting pitching. We said
it on the Brailan Edwards Show weeks and weeks ago.
This is before the trade dunal. What do we say
they needed?

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
What did we say?

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
We said they needed segment, top line starting pitcher, and
back end reliever and a bat. Those are the three
things we said they needed. They didn't get the bat.
They got the back end reliever, which I love, Okay,
Kyle Finnigan. I wanted David Benhardt, but I said Kyle
Finnegan would do. And I said they needed a front
line starting pitcher, not Chris Paddock, not Charlie Morton, a

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front line starting pitcher. I hope it doesn't come back
to Hanum. I don't want to overreact, but it's three
to one, just so you know, in the bottom of
the seventh or two out and nobody aboard for the Tigers.
All right, our favorite segment on this show. I hope
it's your favorite segment. I think from the chat it
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started this while ago, and we started with wide receivers.
Braylan does more than just the wide receivers. He also
looks at every other position and then decides, you know what,
this would be a good thing for people to learn from.
And today we look at running backs, but not your
typical running backs responsibility. Braylan take it away on the
best segment in sports.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
All Right, here we go Breiln's breakdown coming at you.
We're gonna break down blocking for the running backs. Now
we're gonna start with the Las Vegas Raiders and asking
Gent Now this guy top five draft pick. We saw
what he did. He chase Barry Sanders record last year.
Everybody comes into league asking Gent is him? Asking Gent
is the guy? So far? He has not been him
in the running game, but also in the blocking game.

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This right here is a try the state if this
would have happened. Well, wait, let me show you to play.
All right, roll to play, Ryan, Let's get it. Ask
the Gent in the backfield. Pause pauls. Here we go first,
Paul asking. Genc's job right here is to pick up
anything that comes in the way and inter pede enter
impedes his path. You see right now the right guard

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is getting beat. You can see it right now. The
right guards laid off the ball, left guard left. Excuse me,
the uh shoot? The left d tackle is already getting passed.
Ashton should know right now, step up, help sixty five out.
Put a bigger head. They talk about how big his
arms and legs are. Use them. Fast forward the rest
of the bit. Hit play all right, boom right there,

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go back, go back, go back, go back to the
engagement right here. See what happens when you late. First
of all, look at the arms. Feetarn square feet aren't playing.
He's got one leg up. He's waiting to receive this blow. Pauls.
He's waiting to take on the blow. Look, when you're
going at a D tackle, you better get your you
better get your base right, get down so you can

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lunge up into him. You're gonna get driven back. And
that's exactly what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Hit play.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Look what he's doing. Look what he's doing. Now he
turns his back. He's got pushed to the end zone,
or he got pushed back ten yards. Night turns his
back as if he doesn't even care. There's no effort,
there is no intensity there. If you're watching this as
his teammate, are you blocking on the outside as a
wide receiver, If you're brock Bowers, are you gonna block
for this guy that's doing this? He's gonna get your

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quarterback killed. But guess what, plays not over run the play.
He's missed the block. He's back here doing nothing. You
can't see it. He legitimately stood there the whole time
in his back you could not see it, and then
casually jogged as he saw a defensive tackle about the
killer's quarterback. And now he's just about to kill his quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Run the play.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
He still doesn't do anything. He still doesn't do anything.
Now we'll see it from this aint. Here we go.
Run the play. You see the guy coming right now.
He didn't want that smoke. He didn't want that smoke.
He saw the big guy get free, knew he would
have to put his face mask on his face mask.
He didn't want none of that smoke. He backed up
hit play, and now he's getting backed up. Night turns

(01:18:57):
his back, happy to be out of the play lotty.
You see him coming right now, You see him coming
right now. Protect your quarterback. Your quarterback is scrambling because
you didn't block hit play. He sees him the whole time, season, season, season.

Speaker 5 (01:19:13):
A little more time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
He's still just making my way downtown, walking by the
faces clashing. I'm what are you doing? Why did they
draft you for? O? Bro and n Geno Smith gets killed?
Oh my god, all right, let's ge Let's get asking
GenZ out of here. Let's get it he got Let's
get keep broke in the song?

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
Can I just say that he broke into songs while.

Speaker 10 (01:19:41):
He's lighting?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
You know everything is good? All right, Let's get another
guy up here, another rookie making camp scatter boat out
of Arizona State. Here we go, Camp'scattibaut coming from the
back end. Right now. Now, here's a guy takes the fake. Boom,
keep going, you hit playing contact now, running back, running back,
We'll break his down. Running back, running back, running back.

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He takes the fake. As soon as he takes the fake,
he's looking for the contact. This is what you want
to see. You want to see him squore up. Look
for the contact. Problem is he hits him with the
wrong shoulder and he's off balance. This is what you
not want to do. This is me being particular. This
is great effort, this is great contact, but he's going
on the wrong shoulder and you'll see what happens. Hit play.

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See now he almost has to grab. Now he has
to Okay, now he's back in gage, but he lost him.
Hit play. You see how he has his shoulder. He's
losing him. He almost grabs him. Now he finds his base,
he finds a way to continue to block. If we
are grading this on pluses and minuses, ladies, gentlemen, this
is a plus. But if I'm a coach, I'm a
nitpick and tell him get your base right, get into him,

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driving to him so that you don't go across him,
you don't get lifted up off your feet, and you
have to find your base again because you almost got dumped,
but you didn't. So it is a win. Play it
one last time because I like the effort, I like
the intensity. Watch his fake pot. That's a nice pot
right there. Pop was so good, he got good base,
he got low on the end, he dropped, So this
is a win. But you just want to face him

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up when it's.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
A song associated with this. Now hit me with your
best shot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Come on, you'd like to hit me with the best
shot like that, I give you one. On this next one,
we're gonna show you perfection. Let's show you what perfection
looks like. And it's none other than Jamier freaking gives
of your Detroit Lions. Now watch this, Jami is gonna
come in motion off the right side, bring it in.
He's gonna squirrel Jamiir already knows who this guy is.

(01:21:37):
He already knows because this guy is in this gap,
so he's gonna be taken by the center. This guy
is in this gap, he's gonna be taking by Jamier
because freaking Glassgow is gonna kick out or Tate Radley
is gonna kick out. So now he knows this is
my guy. He's already thinking about positioning, He's already thinking
about leverage. He's already been thinking about the teaching and

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the team that he has got over the years. And
I'm gonna bring that back into the equation after hit play. Now,
all right, pause at play a little bit, play a
little bit, sorry, play pause. Did you see this square
back up, squared up that we had earlier right there.

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Look at the difference in versus Asson genty, which he
didn't do anything, and Cam Scatibo, who gave effort, gave
physical effort, but he wasn't in position, and he almost
got done. Look at where Gibbs is right now. He's
square on him, he's helmet to helmet, face mask, face mask,
he's low feet of nice and he's base. He's got
his base right. So he lunges up into the linebacker.

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Hit play. Look at this. Look look at the control.
Look at the control. He has his hands inside chess play.
He's got him control. As the linebacker tries to go
left and right and shake Jamiir, look what happens. He
can't shake him. Play it running back, running back a
little bit, Thank you, Ryan, I appreciate it, just a
little bit. Running back, all right, Now hit play and
let it run. Once you hit play, watch the linebacker

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try to say to try to say, look, not going anywhere,
not going anywhere. Solid, Now go back, now, go back.
Look what this has allows him to do. Look at
the passing lane, Ladies and gentlemen, look at your left link,
your left guard and your left tackle, look at your center,
and then look at your running back. Give an effort
so somebody else on the team can have success. So
somebody else on the lines can have success because they

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gonna get the ball. To me, I know I'm gonna
get the ball. So why wouldn't I want to block file,
say Brown, Why wouldn't I want to block fire? As
a tesla running back? Play this is textbook? Like this
is effort. Look boom, line him up, helmet and helmet
held the whole time Sandlor Porter gets to catch. Go
back to the back end. I'll play the last copy

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of the mirror like, uh yeah, play it zoom. They
ain't get the pack come in motion. He'll square off
because he knows he needs him, because if he doesn't
bring him in, he's out there in the passing game.
He's a he's a weapon, he's an option. He stepped

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saying that this is just this is textbook. This is textbooks.
Look at the base, Look at the base. Remember how
tight asking Gent's feet were, Remember how cam scattabull was
off off balance.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
He's nice his square alignment he does.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
He looks like office alivenment. Look at his helmet underneath
his helmet.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
So can you ask you a quick question? This phenomenal
stuff rat Edge, you said is going to tag.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
It was almost like he punched.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Punch for Sue and make sure Sue is good, and
then he comes back to make sure Jamiir is good
if Jamier needs it. But if you're Tate Ratleig and
you're looking.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
At this, he was like pizza, pizza right now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
You know that's a little bit of George Alabama love
right there. You don't usually see it, but you get
that Jamier gives. I want to give some credit to
his college football coach because this is where this comes from.
You don't come into the lean Scottie Montgomery. I know
he helped with that, but this is college football coach.
His college football coach name is Robert Gillespie. Gillespie founded him,
got him to Alabama and helped the coach in that.

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You know how I know because you know what else
he found when he was at Tennessee. The running back
that he gets compared to Alvin Karmera, who is another
damn good pass pro blocking running back. Robert Gillespie did
a damn good job. This is picture perfect. This is
how you win ball.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
Games.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
This is why people say when you put the film on,
hey you might start the Green Bay game game one.
When you put the film on and see this. If
you're Baltimore, you're not taking this as twenty four and two.
You don't care nothing about that record. I don't care
what Lamar has done in the past of Baltimore. When
I turned this on. If I'm John Harball, this team
is coming that it jumps out of because if this

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is how you operate. If I'm Dan Campbell, I'm pointing
this out to the offense alignement. You know what, that's
gonna get them. It's gonna get them riled up.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
So also help some wide receivers and theystit there and go, hey,
look at how hard this guy's playing. I'm gonna play
for him. To me, when I say this stuff in
Detroit sports, I mean it. You don't get this on
TV in this city when it comes you're getting ready
for a Lions game. You don't get it on radio,
and you sure don't get it on stream.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
You can't get on radio communications.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
This is this is awesome stuff. The learning is beautiful.
And I heard a quote and then we'll go to
break because we've got Air Crouch coming up, yes, the
former Heisman Trophy winner and a friend of Braylyn's. I
heard a quote from Sam Laporta who was talking about
this is from yesterday. Sam looport talking about the unselfishness
of this team and how there's only one football to

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go around, but we want to help one another. And
that's a perfect example of a guy. I'm here to
do what they need for me on this on this
one play.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
I'm gonna tell you why that makes a lot of Well,
that's actually a great point. Sam Laporta is from what school, Oiowa.
They don't believe in egos down there. They don't believe
in any athlete being bigger than the one next to them.
They are a team. You and I know because I
played against him. I hate playing against them because that's
how they play. That is their intensity. Jack Campbell, well,
he didn't care about ads and all the other stuff.

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Who gets credit. All he wants to do is get
to the quarterback. Sam laport He doesn't care that he
didn't have nine hundred yards last year. He'd have more
touchdowns year before. He just wants to win. For him
to come here and say that that means he had
an idea of what the NFL was. That means he
had an idea of individualism like you see on certain
teams in Texas and things like that, and it's not that.

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So when he comments and he says he said, I
love like that, there's no ego, Bob, I love like selfless.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
You're a big fan of Bob saying I love Bob
says one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Of the best in that era. Yeah, it's about the team.
When you have guys that understand that, guys that play
that way, you can attain a lot of success for
a while too, because you're creating a different type of culture.

Speaker 5 (01:27:47):
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was a back injury. Yeah, yeah, lower back injury. So
we can talk a little bit about that. Derek Schouble,
what was his injury? He's sure looked good here today
and a few more that's coming up in about to

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Back with you on the Braylan Edwards Show. Awesome stuff
here on Braylan's Breakdown. It was fantastic and now we
get an opportunity to visit with a fantastic guest. In
two thousand and one, Airic Crouch was the quarterback of
the Nebraska corner Huskers. He won the Heisman Trophy. That year,
he won the Walter Camp Award, He won the Debut
O'Brian Award as well. Clearly one of the best, if

(01:32:02):
not the best college football player in the country. That
he was fire if I can use that word, and
he joins us here on the Brilliant Edwards Show Listen, Eric,
thanks a lot. We appreciate the time. How are you today?

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
I'm great?

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Are there we go? What's up? My brother? How we doing?
We're doing good? Man, appreciate you have appreciate having you
on the show.

Speaker 10 (01:32:22):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
We got a chance to we got a chance to
meet out and Bandon Dunes.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
And had it been your first time going out to
Banded Dunes?

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Yes, it was absolutely. It was beautiful out there, yeah,
beautiful and a lot of team camaraderie with the players
and guys that I hadn't seen for a long time.
And then meeting you guys, you know, just sitting around
the table and talking football and experiences. Man, it was
was wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
How did the Heisman Trophy change your life? Maybe not
necessarily from football standpoint, but in general, how did it
affect you the most?

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
Do you think wow.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
You know, uh, honestly, I've just been thankful and I
think really just it's a humbling experience. I mean, I
won the trophy in nine to eleven was happening, and
and football really didn't have like a you know, it's
like the leasting least amount you were worried about was
like football. And then all of a sudden, you know,

(01:33:19):
that happened, and and then it put put things in
a little bit different perspective about like, you know, relationships
and lives and you know how you know your loved
ones are the most important.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
So it was just a.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
It was a it was a fun year, but it
was also a year of reflection.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
You know, uh, you know, looking back on that season
and everything that happened, it was really surreal, really surreal.

Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
And you know, I just.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Can't thank my teammates enough for you know, being alongside
me through that, and my coaches and all my family
members and and uh, you know the people that were
around me, trainers.

Speaker 8 (01:34:02):
And all that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
It was just.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
You know, you look back as a great time in
your life and I and honestly, it was you know,
you get you get the tag, your Heisman trophy, winning
the rest of your life. That's that's what you are.

Speaker 10 (01:34:14):
You know you are.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
You get introduced and it's this two thousand and one
with you guys said it on your show and you
you know, it's just like, it's what it is. And
I'm very honored to be part of that group. It's
an amazing group of uh you know, of athletes and
guys that have accomplished a lot, and everybody comes from
different walks and all that stuff. So it's it's great.
I enjoy going back every year meeting you guys and

(01:34:38):
seeing the old guys and uh, just being part of it. Man,
it's it's it's pretty special.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
I'll tell you what. Man, you passed Tommy Frasier as
the school's all time leader in total offense, which is
what you did. That is saying something because he was
pretty a special player in helping tom tom.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Tommy touchdown Tommy Man. Love Tommy Man. He's a great dude.
And got to spend some time with him and do
some charitable work together. You know, he's one of those
guys I watched and admired and idled and you know,
wanted to be like him and play like him and
lead like him, and so just you know what to
comes you know from you know that aspect and just

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as it kind of builds you into the person you are,
and you you were so thankful that those guys were
working hard like that, and and when you're able to
follow those footsteps.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
And seere's what I love about Eric. Got a chance
to meet him out there Abandon Dunes. We spent some
time and we actually golfed in an extra round. And
what you'll come to realize is he's just so humble,
he's so chill, he's so relaxed. He keeps guy first,
you keep talking quarterbacks yourself, Tommy Fraser. We'll get into
a young guy in Nebraska that hopes to leave his
mark as well in Delan Roy Olan in the second.
But domint excuse me, but before we get there, we

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got to talk you had it right, Oh yeah, We
got to talk about two thousand and one. We got
to talk about you're so humble. We got at least
talk about two situations. The Oklahoma game, the Missouri game.
You even haven't you have your own play named after
you in the Missouri I mean, excuse me, Oklahoma game
forty one Black Flash for Black forty one Flash talk

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about those moments because this is a Heisman season and
those are two huge rivals, and you got a chance
to take down Oklahoma and you took down Missouri and
you had some amazing place's talk about it swap a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
You know, I don't do that.

Speaker 10 (01:36:25):
Well, you know I do it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
I do it for you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
I again, it was we were in a dogfight with
Missouri that was in that game, and and we're at
their place and we were it was a three point game,
if not, you know, a tie game, and I just
remember it was third and nine and Wilson Thomas ran
an out route and he was gobbled up, and so

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I had to turn away from that and I was
getting pulled on the end zone on my jersey, and
I just had to make something happen. And honestly, it
was just you know, being an athlete and just reacting.
You know, just hey, there's an open spot run, there's
a guy there making this, there's some green grass gets
to the end zone. It was just it was just

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it was just me kind of like I don't know,
like reacting. Everybody was working, all the linemen were working,
Wilson was working after you know, he got got up
on the out route and then he beat me to
the end zone almost, So I said, well, where was Wilson,
Where was that speed when when you were running that
out route? Come on, now, you just you had to
act like you were way faster than me on that one.

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But you know, then then the rest was history.

Speaker 10 (01:37:35):
On that game.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
We ended up winning Oklahoma. It was a great story
there behind that play. Our coach Frank Soulich would call
a trick play at the beginning of that week and
he put it up on the board. He's that, guys,
you know, there's been some history with this game, and
so here's our trick play. And I'm thinking that something

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was up because like, Oklahoma ran the same exact play
that we ran in that game, but they just didn't
they didn't connect, and we actually pulled it out of
our game plan. And so I was looking over there
thinking how did they get the same play that we
put in?

Speaker 13 (01:38:12):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
And it was funny. So then then coach called it.
I didn't think it was. It was nowhere on the wristband,
it was nowhere on the game plan. They pulled it
out because during the week we got interception fumble sack.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
I mean it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
It was awful.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
It never worked, so that was the only time it
worked right there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
Yeah, all it tastes is one to be a memory,
and that's exactly what it is for you in Nebraska.
Last question before we dive into the new the game
three thirty Nebraska versus Michigan, two young quarterbacks. I think
they highlight that game. But I wouldn't be doing my
job on you show if I didn't ask you about
that two thousand and one Miami Hurricanes team. How good
was that team and what was that game like? Because

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there was some names in that game it read maybe
the biggest.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Name, Yeah, yeah, Ed Reed, Jeremy Shock, Brian McKinny, Brandon,
Andre Johnson, Vilma will Fork was on that team. I
don't know if he played much, but he was on it.
I mean, then the goat. Then you get into the
guys that weren't playing, and then even more impressive, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
So Special Team, Sean Taylor, Special Teams and Trail Roads especially.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
It just goes on and on.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
So those are all the Tome seven guys.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
My hat's off. Miami had some dudes, you know, and
they're playing at there, They're playing some good football and
you know, we had come off of loss going in
and playing in a National title game, so it was
it was just hard to get up, I think for
our guys and to really you know, deep inside the
mindset that we could come away and win that game. Honestly,

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we we just did. We just didn't have the gas
at that point, and you know, we turned the ball
over too much. But and so it was one of
those times in my life where it's a little uncomfortable
to talk about because I'm such a competitor and you
want to win and you want to be the best,
and that was just that was just a bad night.
But you take your hat off because Miami was so

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good and they did their thing and they got the
job done. So, you know, always hats off to them.
And again for me to play be on the field
with all those those guys that night, who many of
them are in the NFL or been in the NFL
Hall of Famers, had big impacts, was was pretty cool,
you know, pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
So Crouchy, don't feel too bad because they make fun
of me here all the time every time we talk
about Vince Young beating up on Michigan as well as
Matt lionor whooped Michigan as well. I got to those
losses too. I can't bring up, but they bring them
up all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Yeah, you know, it's always the losses that come to
the stick out right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Great times?

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
Like he was, you were the third quarterback in history
to rush for three thousand yards and throw for four
thousand in your career. Now others have joined you in that.
Do you remember the other two when you were able
to join that exclusive club?

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Do you remember?

Speaker 5 (01:41:14):
Do you remember the other two?

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
That's a great I'm thinking that. I wonder if Scott
Frost was one of them.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
I thought Dave Old, I thought d Davey O'Brien and
Terry Baker.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
I thought either way. You were the first you were,
you were the third of three. Since that time, guys
like Lamar Jackson have broken that broken into that club
and others too. I just wanted I just wanted people
to understand that's how exclusive it was. It was one
of three, and Eric Crouch was one of them, so.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
It's I was looking up stats too, and I think
he has more. He has more rushing yards than I
had receiving yards.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Mission he was. He was a dude.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
Man, he was thirty fast.

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
They you know, I'm I just did with the defensive
end told me to do you know what I mean, like, hey,
your hint? Yeah, you go run after the running back,
run the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:42:10):
So yeah, well you still had to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
Braylan told me, he goes, watch how humble this guy is.
I mean, you are very humble. Before we let you go.
You've got Nebraska and Michigan. Think with your head, not
your heart. Who do you like at Nebraska this weekend? Which,
by the way, is a very special place to play
college football, as you know, but it's a really cool
place to go watch a college football game. It's one

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of those places that I would tell people you should
be in Lincoln. What do you like about this weekend
showdown in the Big Ten Open?

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
Averaging sixty start there? It's Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Well, I mean, first off, I am a big Matt
Ruhl fan. I think he's done some tremendous things here
at Nebraska with you know, just loving his guys and
treating him well and being a great leader. Same goes
with his coaches. He's got a great staff behind him.

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So everything that he's doing, uh to continue to you know,
turn this program around. I think Nebraska's got the right
guy and they're on the right track. With that being said,
you know this is this is a good test for Nebraska.
Michigan's playing some good football and for me, I mean

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I said at the beginning of the year, I think Nebraska,
you know, it's gonna win eight, nine, ten games this
year in my opinion. But that's just one opinion, and
I think that it's starts and it continues. I think
Nebraska wins the game. Nebraska is tough at home. I

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don't know how many points. I'm not taking points and
all that stuff. I don't get into all that, But
I just think Nebraska pulls out the victory. You know,
they're they're feeling good. They're on the climb.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
Coach Rule is, like I said, a tremendous leader, and
his staff is doing some great things. And you know
what I mean, Dylan's playing great football. The receivers, He's
got guys that are playing great football. They're you know,
they're they're making those catches. Dylan's putting the ball on him. Uh,
you know, running back is doing a fantastic job. And

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then the defense. You know, when they lost the two
guys up front last year. They mean, they're they're doing well,
they're playing they're playing good football. And there there's an
energy in a in a in an aura about him
right now, and I hope they can continue to keep
that going. I know they'll they'll do it. But but
the next game is Michigan and and that that brings,

(01:44:48):
you know, a name program history and uh, if I'm right,
they've they've had some pretty close games in the Big
Ten with each other.

Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
It's it's look, it's I don't know if I'll ever
get back to how good they were when when you
were there and when Tom Osborne were leading them to championships.
But I agree that that was really good.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
Yeah, I think I think it's possible. You know, it's
a different era now, and it's been twenty five years,
so there's been a couple eras of passer.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
Here and so it happens.

Speaker 7 (01:45:19):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Man, it took us a long time until we hired
that coach to understand the understood the landscaping that could
go in those rooms and get those kids to that school.
And I think Matt rule has shown time and time
again in college that he is a guy that can
get that done.

Speaker 5 (01:45:30):
He hopes to have that NFL pedigree. Great stuff, and
we could talk to year is a big year, you know, yeah, oh,
no question, no question. But they love their football there.
It's great talking to you man. We could talk to
you for two hours. Keep up the great work this
weekend too. Yeah, you had a great weekend. And all
the best to you and your family. Thanks for the
time today.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
Thank you, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
I text you after the show and I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
That awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Thank you, great joy, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:45:57):
Okay, we'll do thank you. I love to have you back.
Two thousand and one Heisman Trophy winner Special athlete too.
He did beat some stuffs man, Rex Grossman, goodbye. I
mean I played with Ken Dorsey and who's now an
offensive coordinator, which would make you borderline.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
How old you are that Ken Dorsey? Yeah yeah, yeah.
When I saw I got, I had stories, but there
are you know, he's a great dude. And this is
the pick man. This is him on the third to
the right. Obviously you know who I am. And then
he was super super cool, he was super chill, super

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down into his family, down into his faith. The conversations
he had. He was so vulnerable in the space of
talking about being in the draft. We didn't have time
to go into all that, so I didn't bring it up.
But talking about the draft, price talking about being family,
now talking about Lincoln, Nebraska, just being a hometown guy.

Speaker 5 (01:46:54):
S you got good friends, man, you do. You got
really good friends. I think it says an awful lot
about you. Really enjoy that listening and hearing some of
the stories from Eric Crouch.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
And here's another friend.

Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
The humility is really impressive. Uh yeah, another.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Friend, another friend.

Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
Do you think he's just humble?

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Is Eric Crouch?

Speaker 8 (01:47:12):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
He is not at all. But he is an amazing individual.
And Doc, I always give you your praise as much
like you do. We're appreciating that department. Man. I called
Doc hate him up on Monday. He look, man, I'm
having a little something going on with my shoulder. I
think it's similar what I did last year got me
in that day. I talked to Regime, Rogene diagnosed me.
You guys know the story I told you when got

(01:47:37):
cupping done, dry kneeling done. I'm gonna get it done
again next week. But just instantly happened fast. This is
what DOC does, This is who Doc is? You better
scan that QR code. I keep telling you, But Doc,
what's going on? How you feeling? It's a lot going
on going on.

Speaker 5 (01:47:53):
There's a lot going on in the injury department. So
we got a lot to get to. Okay, you're ready,
that's right, I mean I can get through it all.
Tell us your thoughts on and again we always preface
this by saying, it's not like you've necessarily looked at
these players individually, but because of your vast experience, you
know what these guys are going through. So Aleen McNeil

(01:48:14):
recently told Justin Rodgers that if he had to play today,
he could. Doesn't mean he's going to, but if he
had to play today, he could. And he feels like
he's right around in the low ninety percentile coming back
from the knee issue. What has been the process do
you think for him in getting back? And do you
think the timeline's about right where it should be.

Speaker 14 (01:48:39):
His surgery is in January? Yeah, yeah, on January, right
around the actual day. Yeah, but yeah, you're talking nine months.
I mean we always kind of push that four to
six month, you know, the super dudes recover from the
ACL injuries in that four to six months, and we've
talked about it through this show that he's caring a

(01:48:59):
little extra, there's a little bit more going on, there's
a lot more things that need to happen that he's
at that nine month that's six to nine months. So
people are saying nine to twelve months was really his
time frame. I was saying he was six to nine months.
So we're right at that nine month time frame right
under it. So I would see, yeah, what he's saying.

(01:49:22):
If I need to go, but we don't need him
to go, why not get him even better? I know
we had some of the video of his early rehab
back right after surgery, and it's all that proper reception
recovery that you're doing a lot of this is this
is kind of fun for him. If we had the music,
if you guys are hearing the music where he's actually

(01:49:45):
bending down to the music, and it's more of a
proper reception. He's on footplates right now, and what that's
doing is it's giving him feedback. Is it working feedback
for that and he's getting the proper reception going, which
I've talked a lot about once you shut that knee down,

(01:50:06):
the muscles shut down. Your quadriceps, your big thigh muscles
are are not working. Yeah, and we're gonna move me.

Speaker 5 (01:50:15):
We're gonna move you. Yeah, we're gonna bring you up
here on the set. We're gonna bring you up here
on the set. You just look better that way. I mean,
it's it's more, it's more camera friendly for all of us,
you know what I mean. Yeah. So, anyway, so you
were talking about with a Lee McNeil, Go ahead, continue.

Speaker 14 (01:50:32):
Yeah, So with him, I mean, like we've talked about
a lot with the ACL injuries, you have muscle that
shuts down. It's like it's not an on and off switch,
but it's kind of an add off switch. So the
things he was doing early, which is early recovery where
it's not resistant movement, which he should be at now.
But that's that's the step wise thing. That's why it's

(01:50:52):
so important. You're talking about professional athletes. They get the
best of the best. So it's a stepwise recovery. So
you know, he heals, he gets range of motion, you
get firing patterns. Firing patterns not to get two technicals.
Basically how we walk us to get from point A
to point B. There's a certain firing pat that has
to happen from your brains starting it and your muscles cooperating,

(01:51:15):
your nerves, your blood flow, everything. So when you're seeing
the simple stuff, it looks like, well, he's just doing
like a simple squat when he's going up and down.
I'm doing it, but he's doing it to music. He's distracted.
He's got his own hard metal music on that stimulates him.
So that's how the recovery starts. Where he's at now,
you know, he says, I'm ninety three percent he's gotten

(01:51:35):
through that, and doing that step wise is exactly what
he needs to do because there is a formula how
to recover. Now he's into resistance. Now he's into how
am I going to push off? How am I going
to resist these guys? How am I going to make
a difference? From a muscle? So it should be all
his muscles, So it's zero pain eighty percent. I allow
people to start going back to their sport. And when

(01:51:58):
they go back to their sport, we got to start
sports specific. So this is a feedback one that we're
showing right now. This is more early recovery, but still
early recovery. But it's a continuous recovery because he's not
pushing hard when alignment comes at him or an opposing player.
They're not touching them, they're pushing them hard. So you're
seeing this as early. He's increasing the amount of distraction

(01:52:20):
he's doing to his body and he's got to recover.
So that's a brain thing, that's a right and left
brain thing that he's working on, and that's his feedback.
You see how he's up on his toes on one
flat footed. I'm sure if you continue the video, he's
gonna switch off. He's gonna change his angles. But that's
what we call a dynamic performance.

Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:52:40):
We don't just sit and bench weight, And therefore if
I bench a lot of weight, I'm recovered. It's how
everything's being utilized.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
Let me ask you about another player around here that's taboo.
It's Marcus Davenport. Now we understand that he has a
peg situation. They don't know how bad it is. This
where I'm trying to wait to get the information. Is
he gonna play, is he's not gonna play? Is it
Parsley torn? Is it fully torn? And all these things.
I don't want to dive into that since I don't know,
I don't want to. How what's the mental situation for

(01:53:07):
Marcus Davenport? Hear me out on this. You're talking about
a guy that the last three seasons he's been out
like he's had to literally come in Game two last year,
got injured, Game two this year, got injured the two
seasons before that, got injured. When you miss all this time,
like Doc, I know from an individual torn acl tor, meniscus,
the process of coming back. What the mental does? You
fight to get back and then you get back. But

(01:53:29):
I was able to continue, so it was cool. Every
time he comes back, something happens and it has to reset,
like that has to do something to your mental does it?

Speaker 13 (01:53:38):
Not?

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Absolutely?

Speaker 14 (01:53:39):
I mean you can talk, you can talk from true experience.
Everybody's made different. It's where that positivity comes from. Where
does he get there?

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
He's how many times can you go to that positivity? Well,
this is the question.

Speaker 14 (01:53:51):
Well the other side of it, he's been through it
before and he's come back. Right, the unknown is now known.
He knows he can cover, he knows he's gonna come back.
This isn't a major thing. He had major injuries to
put him out. The shoulder thing, I said, it's more
of an impact look looking, which should be a shorter
recovery time. So this isn't like season ending unless I'm

(01:54:12):
missing something totally. I'll go on record that you know,
we haven't seen the imaging. I don't mean if the imaging,
it should have been done already, but no words been
out unless I've missed it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
Yeah, not yet.

Speaker 10 (01:54:24):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:54:24):
Yeah, so no, there's speculation but nothing official.

Speaker 14 (01:54:28):
Yeah, I mean, and why not if it was something
big and a torn ligament, He's on ir you know,
all that excitement's passed. I think it's just a matter
of is it another thing he has to get over.
From a mental standpoint, I'm going full out. I make
a great sack, I land on my elbow. I might
just unfortunate. Do I have bad luck? Look, I always

(01:54:48):
go back to Cronwell. Cronwell had a bunch of injuries.
Everybody at the Red Wing, Yeah, Redings, But he had
a lot of silly injuries because of his impact, because
of his play. He was going into hard. He had
silly little fractures and we're like, is he injuring pro No?
He rea he recovered, he matured in his game, and

(01:55:09):
he was, you know, one of the best defensive men
for us.

Speaker 5 (01:55:12):
And he still played aggressively. Okay, he was still Yeah,
the kron he got smarter, smarter and probably positioned his
body a little bit better. The Tigers lost today three
to one. By the way the Guardians swept them. The
lead is down to three and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:55:31):
The magic number remains at seven. But and obviously Trek
Scoople started through six innings, gave up seven hits, one run.
He had an injured side, the left side. Remember he
was pulled last Friday Miami the fourth inning because of that.
He sure looked good enough today in one hundred and
two pitches and nine strikeouts. But what does he have

(01:55:55):
to be careful of moving forward as a left handed
pitcher with that left side.

Speaker 14 (01:56:01):
You know it came out if you saw exactly he
pulled himself out right. So he grabbed his left pack
and there's a lot of anatomy there. There's the whole
pack muscle, which is three different muscles of the serratus.
They're intercostal muscles. There's a lot of anatomy there. And
then when you open up and stretch. You're creating everything
through the armpit in the upper arm. So he tweaked something.

(01:56:22):
He didn't come out because he's like, I'm being I
don't I don't know if I would have played him today.
I don't know if I would have played him today. Yeah,
we have to get to the playoffs and he needs
to get healthy. But Scruble's not He's not. He's a
He's a very educated player and that's not cautious. He
plays his game. So when he felt something, I mean,

(01:56:43):
I wasn't in the room, but I'm just saying, why
let him let him have that extra red move?

Speaker 5 (01:56:50):
Well he did. He did throw a full bullpen in
a hard bullpen a couple of days ago. So I
think I don't think they would have played him. They
would not have started him. He would not have been
in there had he not been able to get through it.

Speaker 14 (01:57:03):
I'm just I was just like caution on one side
because your level of something tweaked, Let's call it just
a professional tweak. Something was there that brought it to
his attention.

Speaker 5 (01:57:15):
But what does he have to be careful with? We
get that, but what does he have to be careful
with moving forward?

Speaker 4 (01:57:19):
Now?

Speaker 14 (01:57:20):
Like if we could analyze that. We talk about gears, right,
we talk about five gears? Did he pitching gear three
and four? Today? He struck out nine? So is he
throwing more junk? Is he keeping is he not extending
this much? Is he not getting so much behind it?
How is his fastball was a kicking off as much
as normal?

Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
Reach ninety nine?

Speaker 14 (01:57:39):
Yeah, so's he's feeling it. But there's there's an injury.
I want to say, first of all, I went on
record saying, let's everybody calm down, he's going to be
there here. I would have played a little cautious and
have him. Let's rest them, let's recover, let's you know,
work at that fifty seventy eighty. But he's he's him.

(01:57:59):
He's control. He's got a mental I got it. He's
a controlling factor. It's not it's not oh, you need
to play by Tiger management, and it's not the trainer
saying don't be a you know what and get out there.
He's controlling his destiny. So then you have to educate
him what the risk factors are. He had another big

(01:58:19):
injury at the Tigers today.

Speaker 5 (01:58:23):
Yeah, so Coke Keith left the game today with a
sore back right side, and that's a bit of an issue.
He's a left handed hitter. If it's the right side,
you know you're turning a little bit. So back issues
are always touchy, right for any.

Speaker 12 (01:58:39):
From Evan Petzold you said colke Keith appeared to grab
his lower back area after Parker Metals lined out to
end the second inning. Said he immediately alerted aj Hinch
and went down the tunnel with assistant athletic trainer Kelly Rhoades.

Speaker 14 (01:58:53):
Yeah, I mean it sounds more muscular the area he has.
I mean right away when we talk about back, we
worry about hernia this or something spinal. This feels like
it's all mechanical. It's like Brayley Monday morning, you felt
a little something, put some sacred sauce on, and.

Speaker 5 (01:59:11):
What do you do about that? Like Braylan showed us
that you had the suction cups for him to really
help loosen things up. From a backstandpoint, what can you
do to immediately start aiding him.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
Well, I mean those guys are well versed in what
to do.

Speaker 14 (01:59:24):
So there's a lot of muscleskeletal stuff, so you know,
the heat packs, the coal packs, the whirlpools. All that's traditional.
We have dry needling, we have cupping, cupping. What does
cupping do?

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
Cup?

Speaker 14 (01:59:34):
It's scary because we see our athletes with that cupping scarring.
What it's doing is it's pulling circulation, your blood flow,
your healing properties and breaking up those tissues. That's really
what's going on. So if you catch this stuff early
like we did, and you don't start compensating doing other things,
it's typically we should be able to see great improvement
in a short period of time.

Speaker 5 (01:59:55):
Well maybe that's what cold Keith will get.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Ay man.

Speaker 5 (01:59:57):
It's always an education. Great stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
Thanks buddy, Oh he's good.

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