LIVE NFL TRADE DEADLINE REACTIONS | Braylon Edwards Show with Shep | November 4th, 2025

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Speaker 2 (00:49):
Right, Okay, this is the day, man, I mean, this
is kind of It's not quite Christmas, right. Christmas is
usually the draft, at least that's the way it used
to be.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
For Lions has a couple of on account or no,
they got a couple of little mini Christmases, and I
would agree this is definitely a little above the mini Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah do you think it's that for for the Lions?
I'm sorry. Welcome everybody to the Braylan Edwards show, Rocket
to row, pick up and start talking. And I know
people like to start lighthearted sometimes, but this is a
big day, man.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
We love Yes, yeah, this is this is trade deadline day,
four o'clock. By the time Braylan's show is over, we
will know whether or not the Lions have made a deal.
Kool Aid is ready theme and firing on any breaking news,
no matter what it was. I don't care if a
bag of football's were traded from Jerry Jones to Indianapolis

(01:40):
for a backup kicker, We're gonna know about it.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Something I traded to Indianapolis, and I guarantee when the
bag of balls.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah no, it wasn't that it was a guy who
can play balls. It was it too steep. That's a
good question that we can get into. But look, this
is a this is a kind of a fun day.
It's you've been through it. What's the nerves like for
players on a day like this? Nice? By the way,
nice shut sweatshirt. I like, I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's funny. We were talking about Jets trade deadline and uh,
you know, I just happen to be wearing olive green today.
I didn't know we're gonna jump in to it right away.
But for me, it's a different process. Shop, I didn't
go through the process. So it's the trade deadline, and
I'm waiting to see if I'm going somewhere or what's
gonna happen with my current situation. I never even thought
about it. Full disclosure. I'm playing for the Cleveland Browns.

(02:27):
It's two thousand and nine. It's around this time. Although
there was sixteen games. Appreciate that, right, there were sixteen games,
not seventeen, so it was a month ago. But yeah,
around the time. You know, I'm Cleveland Brown. Shop, I'm
naive like I drafted there. Third overall, I'm all pro
in Cleveland. Two thousand and seven, I broke the season
record for touchdowns in the season, including Jim Brown thing

(02:50):
that out there. I said that to be funny. Jim
Brown is seventeen. I'm sixteen, but receiving. But beat I did,
I did, and I added to it. But I'm just
not even thinking that I'm a Cleveland Brown regardless of
the Ohio Michigan you know, blah blah blah. I'm a Brown.
They drafted me. I've done enough. We're gonna figure this
thing out. Maybe they'll get me a quarterback, maybe they'll

(03:12):
get some other things going. And he traded me. I
get into the office, it's you know, it's Wednesday. It's
on Wednesday at six forty five am, legitimately a week before,
a week prior. Just to set the scene for you guys,
we're on three. This is my fifth year with the
Cleveland Browns. First four years, three bad years, one good
year in which we still didn't make the playoffs with

(03:33):
seven and one being our home record. We were ten
and six. We just missed two thousand and a half.
Its a bad season. Manginie comes in two thousand and nine,
we're on four. The week before when we're on three.
After that launched up, he comes in. Nobody's buying into
Eric Maangini is selling and it continued that way. That's
why he's now an amazing job as an analyst, not

(03:54):
necessarily as a head coach. He says, Hey, if no
one's buying in, or if you feel like you want
to go to another team where you got, come and
have a conversation with me, and you know, based on
a conversation, I see what I can do. I'm still
not even I'm not even thinking about the trade deadline.
I'm thinking about my first four years in Cleveland and
now this is your five, and now I still don't
see Cleveland as a winner. I don't see Cleveland doing things,

(04:17):
whether it's because of the owner, whether it's because of
the front office, and whether it's because of the players.
I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna be one of
those guys. I'm gonna have a conversation with Eric Manzini
since he's offering this as a solution to be able
to if I can do something, let me move.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
What wouldn't make him say that in the first place?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Okay, the team suck. We're on three and this is
the Cleveland Browns. Like and I say that to say this,
what's changed about the Cleveland Browns with exception of one
year since that shep.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Doesn't seem doesn't seem like much. I just wonder if
you were the only player he would say that too, because.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Nobody He didn't say it to me as just on
one of my apologies. He said it to the full
team media. I got you, he said to the full
team media room after the loss, and I took him
up on the offer. After the conversation, I went upstairs. Look,
I've been there four years. We lost my my rookie year,
second year, third year, we had the year, we almost
lost my fourth year, and now we're getting a'm getting

(05:12):
obliterated my fifth year. So I go up serius, have
a conversation with them, say, hey, look, it's nothing with you.
I just don't think Cleveland isn't a space where you
can win, like I don't. I don't want this to
be my career, Like this is five years in for me,
Like I love Michigan to come to this. This ain't
it and it ain't like I want national championships. Now
he was ain't for effect, But I won at least
I understood I was in the end of the debate.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Man, it was a program that wanted to win Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
They showed you they wanted to win Cleland.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
You never got that sense.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
So you know, a week later we lose again to
Cincinnati Bengals. An infamous, infamous fight happens with with with
me and some other people, but that had nothing to
do with the conversation of getting traded. They trade me
to the New York Jets on that Wednesday. I go
in there and say, hey, Braylyn, now look we've made
a move, moved it to the New York Jets. I

(06:02):
think you're gonna do well there. Cool. I appreciate that.
Thank you for the opportunity I go to the Jets
like that. Trade was the best thing that ever happened
to me in the NFL, including the draft. The draft,
I mean, that's hardy. I went third overall, so let
me that's number one. Yeah, But the feeling that I
got for getting traded, but then once I got there
to see the energy that Rex was. See that's the
other side of this for players when you're bringing them in.

(06:25):
You gotta understand a lot of times, when you're bringing
players into your team that's doing well, that's in a fight,
that has an identity, that has these things that Brad
Holmes and Dan Campbeill have built. To have these things
that Shane Stikeen and know that they're building, it's a
breath of fresh air. It's legitimately all the things that
you're running from or all the things that you were

(06:46):
stewing in in that situation. You're getting the best version
of these players. A lot of times that you're bringing
in because when the Jets brought me in, I was
dying to get out of Cleveland. Whether it was Ohio, Michigan,
whether we sucked, whether it was the Colors Duodobron orange,
whatever it was, I had to get out of Cleveland.
And when I got to New York, like they got
my undivided attention, they got all of me. I'm out

(07:08):
here diving for balls and practice. Yeah, I'm not saying Paul's.
It was like, I'm out here like trying to show them. Look,
I'm excited to be here, like I want to make something.
You guys are three and one, like I want to be.
I'm glad I'm three in one. What do you need
me to do? You need me to go out there
and block for Thomas Jones. You need me to go
out there and block for Sean Green. You need me
to be the sixth a lineman.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Fine, God, just you preaching on the Jets and they
continue to be busy. Just a little bit of breaking
news on them, real quick, blockbuster trade. The Jets are
trading three time Pro Bowl d alignment Quentin Williams to
the Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
So it's Brady just took the hairfif bro. I'm reading
this right now, like New.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
York gets a twenty twenty six first round pick and
more for Williams who gets a first start at the
age of twenty seven. And I saw that there are
some other detail else about this trade that are going
to be coming out soon as well about the Jets.
But the Jets aren't gonna be done. But Quinn Williams traded. Goodness,
gracious man.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Good I see you. I'll give and I don't do
this lightly. I will give Jerry Jones some credit here. Okay,
you know how bad his defense is. It's awful, and
he gets a down lineman and they got a linebacker
earlier today, and Logan Wilson. I don't know how much
he's going to really help that defense overall, but two

(08:30):
pieces like that you would think can do nothing but
help the defense.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
So I'm gonna relax because I'm not I'm not truly
a Lions fan at my course, So for me to
go ham and react the way in which Lions fans are,
you know what, that would be disingenuous. But I will
say I care at what point do you realize you
need to make a move. I was talking to somebody
at the grocery store this morning, and they were like,
you know what, Brad's gonna make a move. I think

(08:56):
he's gonna do with the conversation ship and I'll get
back to the Jets stuff. The conversation wasn't walking in.
I'm buying some broccolini, if you will, but I'm getting something.
I'm getting some I'm getting some greens, I'm getting some
anti accidents, I'm getting all the things. And somebody comes
to here and saying, I love the show, I love Shep, y'all,
I love kool Aid.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Now we know you're full of crap, but go ahead,
I love you. That's it. Who's that other guy with you?
Get rid of it?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
But go ahead, okay, fair, But the conversations. What do
you think Brad Holmes is going to do with the
trade deadline? Like that's the conversation. Also was a conversation
at the gym I was at. There is also a
conversation everywhere we've gone. You Ryan, kool Aid, Spinielo's in
the booth helping out. It's the same conversation we're all getting.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
He cut me off. He said, you know what, Brailn,
we got to trust Brad Holmes Brad has done right
by the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
He is a g.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
He's a GM that will do the right thing. I said,
what makes you say that, Well, look at how he's drafted.
I said, okay, but I let him go. I wasn't
trying to hold this young man under fire. Sure I
didn't ask about.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
The You could have, but you chose not to.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
What are you gonna need to trade deadline? The fact
that it is literally a trade deadline day and we're
still waiting for a move.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, these deals are all done, as you well know.
I'm not telling you something you don't know, but these
deals are Most of these deals are talked about a
couple of days in advance, all right. They don't just
happen in the morning off. They're usually there's usually a
progress there. The thing I always ask people this, and
I don't disagree with that because I like Brad Holmes
a lot, and I think he's done a wonderful job overall.
But when somebody says I think he's gonna make a move,

(10:32):
my response is always what makes on? What? That's it?
Based on what he did? Trade for Zadarias Smith trader.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
For Zadarius Smith last year because Aiden Hutchison was hurt.
I Understan didn't have a choice but to trade.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Right, I don't know. I don't know if he would
have done that or not. I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna try.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
To read it. So if you're one defensive lineman, you're
one defensive rust and who's giving you sex gets hurt
Like you're one guy, you're not gonna make a move
like you You legitimately can be a D minus GM
and make that move. You don't get credit for that.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I don't just well, I'm not in the habit of
not giving people credit for something just because you may
think it's obvious, or just because you want a game
that you should look. He still made the deal, all right.
You could have taken the position of, hey, we've got
some younger guys. We're gonna give them a look at
all that other stuff. I agree with you to a
certain extent. I'm just gonna give him a little bit
of credit. That doesn't mean he's aced every trade day

(11:25):
trade day deadline, okay, And that doesn't mean that I'm
I'm fully supportive no matter what he does today. I'm
just bringing up one example.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
What I was trying to get to before we got
to there is like why does it take four o'clock
PM on Tuesday every single freaking year with Brown Holmes
and Detroit Lion, Like, why is it every year you're
waiting until four o'clock, Because when you're waiting a four
o'clock it's done to wait for Like when it's Tuesday
at two and some change and you're waiting for a
more you're really not waiting for a move. You're waiting

(11:52):
to be told the inevitable, which is we're good.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
And my thing is that we'll talk about I have,
you know, some some some graph prepared. I got a
little minutia prepared to back this statement up though, But
at the end of the day, I don't care how
good your team is going to the season. I don't
care how good you think you are. Like, when the
season happens, there's time to adapt. There's time to adjust.
If you look at every single team that has won
the Super Bowl within the last seven years, there were

(12:18):
moves made at the trade deadline, and we will go
down the list of some of those moves that have helped.
It's not taking anything away from you, it's not taking
anything away from what you're building. It's not taking anything
away from wanting to win with your guys. It's not
taking anything away from let me just add somebody. Because

(12:38):
when the Jets added me, getting back to that conversation,
like I was a guy that came here and wanted
to give everything for the New York Jets, and I
did to it.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Like everything that I did reinvigorated.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I was reinvitegated, reinvigorated. The energy was different. I didn't
care what was going on. What do you need me
to do? Same thing Dave Montgomery said when they signed
him three years ago. Same thing Dave Montgomery said, I
don't care if they want me to pass water. I
ain't passing on no damn water. But I said, you
want me to go out there and you want me
to hit the defensive end that weighs fifty pounds more
than me, sixty pounds more to me, seventy pounds more

(13:09):
to me. So being, you want me to go in
there and get hit by insert, so be it. I
don't care. I'm going whatever. You want me to play
a game where I'm not catching passes, I'm not used
to it. But if you're telling me this is going
to help a franchise that show me that they care
about me.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Then so be dude. That energy is real. When you
go from the energy, when you go from a losing situation,
sausty boys up.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Too about it, You go for a oh man, you
see what I did.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
You go from a losing situation and a losing atmosphere
to something where they have proven that they do care
and their mindset is different. You can't help but adopt
that mindset and want to be part of it and
have it more, you know, filtered through you. I would
I would think that would be the case for anybody.
I don't care who it is. I don't care if

(13:58):
it's you. And I talk briefly, asktraight about vin Zeitler
because we think they need an offensive lineman. He comes back,
think about what he's had to go through in Tennessee.
And now he comes back and he's like, you know what,
this is what I missed. Let's go get a ring.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
And two things and two people can be wrong like
in that situation, which is cool too. Not to cut
you off, but like the energy is, maybe I should
Maybe I shouldn't have pressed like it. Maybe I should
have took this because it was a better situation. Yeah, yeah,
maybe I should, like two things can be wrong, you
know how you're right there wrong look, and it didn't
have to be Kevin Zeiler.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, I'm just using nesse right, And I was just
more throwing out of it.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
But at the end of the day, he's just so.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
What's it like when do you feel like you're wanted
by somebody else or not wanted by your other team?
What's the mindset there for for the players started being
traded today?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
What's that mindse I don't think it's the same for
individuals today as it was back in the day. I
think back in the day we were a little more temperamental.
I think we're like, oh, man, like, really trade me?
Because me when I got traded, I said, how dare
that you drafted? You told me this is it? You
told me come to Cleveland. I didn't want to be here.
You bought me here so to bring me to the

(15:08):
city I didn't want to bring to I didn't want
to be in make me fall in love with some
sample of whatever, and then discard me. Why'd you make
me fall in love in the first place. But with
that being said, looking back, I realized I went for
a third or fifth and two players. That wasn't too bad.
It wasn't too bad. But I don't think it's the
same today. When you start off in college nowadays, where

(15:29):
you can transfer whenever you want to, when you can
leave whenever you want to, when there's no sense of
and this is an overthrown word loyalty for it, there's
none of that.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
So I don't know has there ever really been. I
mean maybe way back in the day, but I'm not
sure there's loyalty from either side. I mean, I'm talking
about from a team standpoint too, not just players. I'm
talking about from a team stand.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
But there's always loyalty from players because we didn't have
a choice until you insert the free agency you know
what I'm saying, years years, years, Look.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
But loyalty would be giving a hometown discount like Jose
Ramirez your friend and Leland. That is not necessarily nor
do I believe that that's automatical.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
All players had to give that forever. Yeah, So when
you finally start letting them twinkle their toes in a
free agent market in like ninety four, yeah, we started
to get a little bit selfish because we never experienced
it in seventy years of the league. Yeah, but I
don't think today they care because of that. At the
end of the day is where I'm going. I don't
feel bad and on to the next one. As the

(16:26):
great poet said jay.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Z, there's there's got to be a lot of different
things that we don't always recognize. When a player gets traded,
it can be a shock to a system. Whether you
liked being where you were or not. It's a shock
to your system. It disrupts you and your family and
all the little things where you get your mail delivered.
For crying out loud, what's the whole process like from

(16:47):
that standpoint, because it goes a lot deeper than just
playing football.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
So I get traded in October two thousand and nine. Legitimately,
I drove to the facility, found out, drove back home.
I packed up a bag, I packed up two suits,
a couple of shoes. Told my uncle who was my
house manager, Rest in peace, Uncle Walter. At the time,
I told my boy Larnelle, who cut my hair. His
son's birthday partabs comeing up, Happy birthday, and I'm out.

(17:14):
I left Cleveland and I went to New York for
greener pastures. The process, I had to have my household
in Cleveland. I had to have parents on ground. My
mom took care of that. Shout out to mom. Duke's
made sure that was good. I never I didn't have
to worry about that. But if you don't have that situation,
you gotta worry about the house, gotta worry about the selling.
Now I'm going to New York. Now I'm playing for
the New York Jets. We're the New York Jets. Well,

(17:36):
you know the practice facilities in Floring Park, the new
practice cite. Well, now I got to find out where
am I staying in Floring Park. Well, I didn't have
anywhere to stay in real estate is very expensive. I
had to figure that process out, stay with a teammate
of mine for a week until I figured that situation out.
And now I'm trying to figure out a new team,
trying to figure out where I'm living. I'm trying to
figure out, to say, a function of life.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
So somebody with the team, somebody with the team does
help you with that. There is somebody who assists you,
but you still have to make the decisions.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, but like how much they're giving you the basic help.
Will pick you u from the airport from We'll set
you up at a hotel and make sure you're good.
We'll give you a couple of pamphlets or some connects
on this is what the real estate market looks like
in this area. Here's the restaurant, here's downtown. Welcome to
the Jets. That's kind of like where the situation is.
And you're not trying to figure you're not trying to

(18:23):
find a place to live.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Welcome to New York Jets. Sea later not to mention.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Like I'm a family guy. So I'm a family guy
planning for the Browns where I'm from Detroit, which is
a two and a half hour drive. I have a home.
My family comes to all the game. It sounds like Brian,
Brian Kelly is now family. My family comes to all
the games. So yes, like I have a suite with
the clan, I don't have a swite with the Jets.
So I have I'm two and a half hours away,

(18:49):
got my tickets, got the bube and a nine hour drive.
Now with the New Jersey excuse me, with the New
York Jets living in New Jersey nine hours away with
the system, it looks like, how's it's so much to change.
But when you have good people, when you have people
work with My mom manages my agents at the time.
Look y'all deal with that. Let the chicken work.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, let you go play football.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I'm saying, I'm getting the chicken. Let me work. But
it's tough though.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, there's a lot to digest there, and I think
we don't necessarily appreciate that until we hear it from
somebody like you, because we think it's just automatic not
to mention the fat. For you, I'm sure it was.
It was challenging with the playbook. Depending on who your
who the Lions trade for today, like what I did there,
Depending on who the they trade for today, there's certain language,

(19:41):
there's certain things. I heard a really interesting interview on
NFL Network today with somebody who was in the San
Francisco front office, and he said when they traded for
Christian McCaffrey, it was after it was after a Wednesday
practice and they were playing and the Sunday and they thought, well,
if we can't play, so be it, but we'll have
him for the following week. He showed up. He stayed

(20:04):
all night Thursday, all night Friday recognizing the playbook, and
they played him on Sunday and he played really well.
So there are other aspects besides the personal side. Then
you try to dive into your professional situation. That's got
to be equally challenging as you get to know guys
and get familiar with everything.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
And I appreciate you giving other athletes that that that
rope of respect, like, hey, you know, I know you guys,
get in there and you gotta learn some things. This
is there, shit, I'm gonna stop you there, respectful. My
job is to learn this damn playbook, and I really
want to use the f work. My job is to
learn this playbook. This is what pays the bills. This
was to make sure it's my kids, my parents, my family,

(20:44):
myself that we're good like this. And oh, by the way,
this is actually this is this is what I love
to do. It's to sit in a hotel room and
read the playbook. Ain't ard to legitimately get out of
a situation in Cleveland where I know they're not winning
a game, where I know they're not going to a playloft,
where I know they don't value me as a player,
And now I have a New York Jets scene that

(21:06):
brings me in and says, not only do we value
you're our number one. Here, here's the playbook, here's here's
a couple, here's a couple ideas we think we want
to work. We'll start you out. Man, give me this.
Don't worry. I'll see you Monday night, because that's when
I got traded. I got traded on Wednesday, Monday night football.
So I mean I had a couple, well, I had
an extra day, but Monday night was when I started

(21:28):
my journey with the New York Jets. I read that playbook.
You know what, I realized, same language as University of Michigan.
I said, oh, mess route, spot route badger open. All right, bet,
I'll see you on Monday and Monday night first pass
was a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah. Look, I'm not who am I to disagree with
somebody who lived in but I would just say this,
I'm not going to belittle what it takes to understand
and digest a playbook, Okay, because I've seen playbooks before
and people think they're just a couple. They are really thick,
and it takes a lot of concentration and you've got
to flush certain things out and bringing new information. So

(22:07):
I respect the hell out of people. I know it's
your job. The job is also to catch the ball,
and you don't catch every football, okay, But when you
have to learn those things, that's a challenging situation. And
I give people a ton of credit so that Look,
we're hoping, we're expecting the lines to make a deal
by four o'clock today.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
And I appreciate it. See c mac he did that.
He did that coming out Carolina. But it when you
want something, you know, when you want something, you give
somebody some information. It's not learning itself, that's an issue.
It's learning the individuals that are relaying it to you.
I see it ain't like I can I can read
this and understand exactly what it says. Recovery is what

(22:46):
amazing this Smoothie can I can read this exactly what
it is. How does Smoothie King want me to read this? Like,
what does Smoothie King get at? What is that learning
the individuals that you're working with? I knew the offense.
How is Mark gonna read this coverage? How is Brian Schottenheimer?
I told you about Brian shotting by the way, let's
need to hear to know there, how is Brian Schottenheimer

(23:09):
gonna call this play? What is Brian Schottenheimer? What am
I like? Learning that part of it, that's the tricky part.
But learning what the offense is. It's you know, I
read it, understand it, you know, do some memory notes.
You know, hey, hey, here it is. You'll cover this
play out? Just the diagram what's this play? Or vice versas,
here's a play call diagram it up. Show everybody's route.
I can do.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
That had to be a lot of conversations with you
and your quarterback, it's whether it be Sanchez or whomever.
Had to be a lot of conversations about that to
try and make sure they know what you like to do,
because usually that's training camp stuff. Yeah, what you like
to do and what you're familiar with, how they want
to see things and throw things and things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, it is a process.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, it takes a while, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm now thinking back on the process when I first
got there with Mark, Like Mark was so green, Like
Mark was so great. He was young, Like Mark got drafted,
like he had just turned twenty, Like Mark was fresh twenty.
You know what, I meanwhile, I'm like, I'm twenty five,
I've been through it. I've seen seventy quarterback seven eight quarterbacks.
I'm like, here we go. But I appreciate a quarterback

(24:12):
that could take the time, that wants to take the time.
As long as you have a general and that's what
quarterbacks are. As long as you have that general that
wants to take the time, you can figure some things out.
You guys can watch film together. Hey, look, this is
how I see it. Well, this is how I see it.
How do we meet in the middle? Hey, this is
what the play call is? Well, this is how we
used to call it. Here, let's meet in the middle. Like,
that's how you get on the page. And it's the
same thing for any position. Mine just happening to deal

(24:34):
with the quarterback. But if you're a defensive end, like, hey, look, safety, linebacker,
want I want to go on these plays? I want
to go when I see this? All right, I'm Jack Campbell.
That's cool. Insert defensive end. This is kind of how
we do it here. Where can we meet in the
middle of that to where I can let you be special,
but at the same time you could follow kind of
you know what I'm saying. The guideline.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I know Sean talked about it, I know Big d
Energy talked about it. Ask you the same thing, very
similar anyway, and that is what do you want to
see him do today? So fill us up in the
chat with all kinds of thoughts and we will get
to that for sure. The other thing we wanted to
ask you is based on trade deadline. What's the one
trade you wish you had back? If you're the Lions,

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we'll have the breaking news throughout the day. Kool Aid
and Ryan, there could be plenty of it. There have
already been some trades made today. I'm sure you know
about it. We'll bring up the sauce gardener trade from
the Jets to the Colts for a couple of first rounders.
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Speaker 2 (31:49):
If you believe in drafting and developing, which seems like
every Detroit team does, think about it. Every team is
that's what they do they draft, they develop, and they
sprinkling some veterans. Every team's done.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
What's that they've developed too long times?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
But I agree, yeah, it takes a while to develop.
We know the Lions have done that. You kind of
pointed that out in the last segment. That's what the
Jets are doing with Who would have thought trades are
one thing. Trading quote unquote core guys is different. How
surprised were you that Sauce Gardner gets traded, He goes

(32:26):
to Indy for two first rounders, and then Quinnin Williams
gets straight traded. He goes to Dallas for a second
round pick and a first round pick. So the Jets
have in twenty twenty six they have their own first
and second. They have the Colts first and Dallas's second,
and then in twenty twenty seven they have three firsts.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
J e Ts, Jets, Jets, Jets. See what I was
thinking about this is before Aaron Glan. I appreciate you, Ryan,
I appreciate that before Aaron Glann got there, I would
have been surprised because this would be a major movie.
I was like, this isn't something they've done where you
can name the last four head coaches for the New
York Jets. This isn't something they've pulled the trigger on,
because this isn't something with he Johnson has pulled the

(33:08):
trigger on. But I think to get something that you've
never gotten, you gotta do something that you never have
And I think Aaron Glenn coming over from Detroit and
noticing I can't rebuild when energy isn't right, Like, no
matter how good you are as a player, Like, no
matter how good you are, if you are jaded by
what this team and the situation has been and you
can't buy into what I'm doing and you have value,

(33:31):
I got to use that value. I got to send
you somewhere you're gonna be happy, and I got to
bring something in that will help this team move in
the future. And you look at Quentin Williams. I had
a chance to sit down and talk to him when
he first got there, and I had a chance to
talk to him this year. He didn't have the energy
of somebody that was happy or believed. And what Aaron
Glenn was gonna do. Same thing with Sauce Guard. You
could relate because I had nothing to do with Aeron

(33:52):
Mazeni one.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
You're on four.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
But even before that, I didn't believe and I didn't
believe in the Browns, so it didn't even matter what
he did. He just so happened to go on four,
which further my disbelief in the Detroit I mean, the
Cleveland Brown situation.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
So let me ask you this. You like Quinn Williams,
I love quinnen will him not feeling the energy from
Aaron Glenn. Why would you buy into Aaron Glenn's going
to be successful in New York if Quinn Williams gave
you that.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Vibe, because he's getting it. It's not about Aaron Glenn,
is why Quinn Williams feels that way. Quinn Williams been there,
He's been there for you.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
It's about the Jets organization, all right. I thought you
were talking about him and liking it to you and
Mangini and Cleveland. No, that's a hell of a haul
what the Jets have going. How much do you think
Aaron Glenn was involved in these types of deals because
he saw this come to fruition when he was with
the Lions, and I.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Wanted im saying he's involved in his deal. This screens
like when and this isn't directed at you. When of
the Jets done anything like this, When of the Jets
made a move in the last i'll say it twenty
years to where you're Oh, that was nice. Oh that
has the implications of a professional organization. Ooh okay, this

(35:07):
can be something in the long term. When's the last
time that jetson made you feel like that?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
So to see and move like this and to see
how Ryan just talked about it before we start talking like, oh, oh,
the Jets are cooking and now we're talking about it,
they're cooking. The fact that we're having this conversation. The
only new the new entity to the New York Jets,
it's Aaron Glynn because Wady Johnson is still there. Because
a lot of the same people in front office they're

(35:33):
still there. There's a lot like the integrity for what
the Jets have been is still there minus Aaron Glenn
and what he bought in.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Would you have given up to first for Sauce Gardner
if you were Brad Holmes, if that's the asking price,
I don't think it's just because it's the cold, So
it would have been probably the asking price for the
Lions as well. Would you have done it, and why.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, because you get like, what first rounders are we
talking about? Were distant first rounders? Are we talking twenty
twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, maybe one next year?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yes? Because what's our draft pick going to be next year? Anyway?
As good as we believe the Lions are going to be,
and then you add this piece to make them better.
Lions are looking at what thirty twenty nine, somewhere in
that range. I would do it because you need a
lockdown guy. Do you know Sauce Gardner hasn't given up
two catches to a receiver this season, but he was
all Pro as as as a rookie, got back to

(36:31):
his all pro ways last season. In year three, he
got back to those ways. You escaped them a little
bit in year two, got back to him in year three,
and then he's accelerating them in year four. Like this,
you shut down half a field. Now you add him
to two safeties or one, and you may not need

(36:51):
that other safety if you bring him in there, but
I would because of what he allows you to do.
Legitimately talking about the legion of whom and what dj
read is going to be when he comes back and
what Terry and Arnold can be if he figures it out.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I would, yeah, Terry on Arnold. From a lot of
the people who are covering this team daily, Terry on
Arnold's numbers have been really good. Actually, not just because
of the interception recently, but because of what he's been
able to do and completion percentage against so for example,
which is pretty impressive from Al Krston the football guy,

(37:25):
he said, since Week four, Terry on Arnold has allowed
a thirty eight point one passer rating, second best among
all NFL cornerbacks, second best. He's also forced an incompletion
of twenty percent of the targets, right behind Patrick Sartan
and Quinnion Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, but you could take that with a grain of
suck because you can keep those stats because I'm not
looking at the Cleveland Browns. I'm not looking at the
Cincinnati Bengals when they had Jake Brown. And I'm not
looking at the lesion of home game or this last game.
I'm not looking at that. So like, save this stats,
just like they're telling me Aiden Hutchinson leaves the league
in herrison, I need to see it on the field.
I don't need to see what No, show me what

(38:02):
you do in a game that matters, not the Cincinnati Bungles.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Well, I think every game, to be honestly, I think
every game matters. I mean, we can debate that all
we want. I think every game is it does.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
But show me the game when you're doing that against
a team where it's consistent back and forth play, not
the team that legitimately can't do anything on offense, and
it makes it that much easier for you as a dB.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yes. So what I'm saying is since week four, and
again it's not my numbers, it's since week four, so
it's the Bengals, Chiefs, the Buccaneers, Vikings those well, the
Buccaneers he wasn't even in there, right, he was hurt.
So you're talking really about three games, and you're talking
about the Bengals, which we throw away because the quarterback's
not very good, the Chiefs, which they lost but he

(38:45):
still played well enough, and the Vikings which they lost
but still played well enough with certain numbers. So my
point is, I think you're starting to get it. I
hope he is all right, because I thought he could
be a number one corner.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Who's the starting court back last week for the Minnesota
Bank j Jimmycarty exactly. So I'm just being that's how
I feel on the matter.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, No, I get it. It's a good, good discussion.
That's that's why we that's why we have debates, right
or the conversations. Yeah, the conversation. Yeah, I mean it's
whether or not you feel it, whether or not you're
looking at it, and whether or not you're noticing anything. Yeah.
So let's see what they do today. Let's hope they
do something today.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
It's to forty one. I know it's to forty one.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
No, no, no, I'm not lading you down. I'm more so.
I'm more so just reminding you of what the conversation
has been already with Brad Holmes, that every turn that
we've been through, what has been the combo, whether it
was whether it was January after the Commanders, we're good,
April after the draft, we're a good, training camp, in July,
we're good. Started this season, we're good. Two weeks ago,

(39:58):
we're good. The the first conversation that we had where
it wasn't we're good was Dan's conversation the other day
was like, well, we understand and Brad. He's got a
couple of fillers out there and we'll see what happens.
We don't necessarily need anybody, but you know, Brad's making
moves and if he does, cool Like that's the first
time you heard him say anything different in the last.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
But Brad Holmes was referring to his pass rush, specifically
the edge rush. I think you correct me if I'm
wrong here. You and I are thinking about something other
than just pass rushes. We're talking about secondary help and
offensive line help. If he thinks he's good with the
pass rush, the pass rush numbers. I know you don't
like numbers, but sometimes those numbers do support the case.

(40:43):
And we weren't talking about that against Tampa when Muhammed
was busting people's mouths up left and right, when Tyrus
Wheat was getting in on Baker Mayfield. It's not like
I want those guys. I would love Trey Hendricks. And
I'm just saying there's certain prices that I'm I think
it's irresponsible if you spend on certain guys, and especially

(41:04):
when it comes to what this team needs right now.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
That's fair and I definitely think it's irresponsible if you
spend certain moneys. But to say we weren't talking about
that because El KaDee Muhammad had two and a half
secks is a lie, because I still say we need
guys because the question is is this sustainable? Like is
this moving forward? Because this happened in one game? Well,
I guess in the pan and then I forget. We're

(41:29):
not talking about who's healthy and who's not.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
You want established guys, just what you're saying, you want
to established track record guys. Like when you were traded
to the Jets, they knew what they were getting.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
I want a guy that you're not selling me, Like
the Jets didn't have to sell me when I got
to New York. They didn't have to sell me and say, hey,
you know it's a guy and you know and he
did some good things. You're one and you know he
was drafted here and you know it didn't necessarily work out,
but he worked hard. Like that's selling. Like the Lions
are in the position where the players that you need

(42:00):
aren't selling points, they sell themselves. I was all pro.
I was all pro coming here, broke Cleveland Brown's record.
I was third overall draft pick. Now you give me,
you give me some chance, sixteen touch thirteen hundred yards.
Ain't gotta sell me.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
They knew what they were getting, right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
First game, first catch, touchdown.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, it's a good way to put it when when people,
when the fan base, when the other players know, Hey,
this is how serious we are about winning. Look at
who we brought it. I think oftentimes of what Dylan
Larkin said last year at the NHL tread trade deadline,
and he was hoping his front office would do something
a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I took a little issue with it because I think
that's got to come from within and especially from a
leadership role standpoint. But I think that's what you're saying.
The Lions players can look around and say, damn, look
at what we just did, because Colts are saying that
right now. The Cowboys are saying that right now, even
though they're three and five and one, that's what they're
saying right now. Hey, he hasn't given up on anything.

(43:01):
This dude may be senile at times, but you know
what he's doing. He's going out and he's getting some
guys to make us better. That's what you want. You
want guys who are going to make this team.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Better, even if you think you're the Bee's knees, like
and you're Baltimore Ravens, even though they're three and five,
you still probably think you're the Bee's knees because you
got Lamar Jackson. They've made moves to even their life.
That's a good pickup. Yeah, hell, that's a good pickup
for whatever you want to say about what you think
JII Alexander is. And boy can play and he's gonna
be in a situation where they're gonna calm him down.
He won't have to do the crazy things whatever. He's

(43:30):
just a depth guy. He can play the move that
they made. These are moves in which as a player
on the team where you know where you're going, you
know where you want to go. The ultimate goal is
a super Bowl. I could care less about the individual
things when you really get down to it, the super Bowl.
When you bring in certain guys, it just move the
needle like it's not like, oh, let's wait and see.
Certain guys just moved the needle from jump and they

(43:53):
make you feel good. So I think that's what the
Lions have to provide for this team, not for the
fan base. It's not for the fans. The fan base
of benefit. It's for the Lions to bring in a
player that you're like, oh, okay, and it doesn't have
to be a guy except the cost you too, first
round picks right or first in a second, or it's
just a guy that you know, Okay, it's a force multipler.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I fear this, and you guys can tell me if
you get the same vibe or not. I fear that
this is a turning points. Probably unfair, but this is
a pretty big defining moment for Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
When you hear Dan Campbell at the podium yesterday, I don't.
It's hard to believe him sometimes now, whereas I believed
a lot of things before. When you hear Dan Campbell saying, well,
you know, we've got this guy and we've got that guy,
and you're like, wait a minute, hold on a second,
you can't believe that that's the position you want to
put your team in when you're on the brink of

(44:52):
possibly winning. And on top of that, we all know this,
we saw it in baseball season. The NFC is wide open, folks.
I hate to tell you, but Carolina's five and three.
If you don't think they believe in something, not that
they're gonna mortgage the future, but there are so many
teams right now involved in the playoff push that if
you don't do something, it's not just fans and talk

(45:15):
show hosts and trying to get likes and tweets and
retweets and all that other stuff. It's even players. I
would guess who would be. You know what, how come
we're not doing something right now? Right?

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Legitimately they had a whole conversation with Chase Brown as
well as Jamar Chase this past week with the Bengals. Now,
obviously the position they're in now, they're not fighting like
the codes are, which I'll come back to, but they
want moves made because they're that close. Yeah, for everybody
talking about two first rounders and the cold, oh that's oh,
it's so much. You gave them so much. It's too
it's wide open. Shane Steichen and Indianapolis Colts understand that

(45:50):
it's wide open. Why not us? Why not this year?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
So?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
What is two first rounders?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Because I believe it's to me, it's more than that.
It's it's the length of his contract in the amount
of money. But go ahead continue, Yeah, why not this year.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah, it's de cruxity. Yeah yeah, like why not? Now?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
But do you believe these are close to defining moments
for both their coach and the general manager?

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yes? Yeah, because this is this is this is a
space and we can agree to disagree about this. Zadarius
Smith move. This is a space where now now you
have to in my opinion, this isn't twenty twenty three,
This isn't twenty twenty four. This is twenty twenty five,
where it's like, all right, look, you know what happened
last year playoffs, you know how that finished. You see

(46:34):
what's going on with the season right now? You just
had a loss to a team you shouldn't have last suit.
Let's say that you got some indeficiencies on your team,
some glaring indeficiencies. Are you going to make a move,
because if you're not, because this is what this is.
How fast, this is how fast it turns.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
This is the task.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
If you're not gonna make a move at the trade deadline, fine,
if you end up like you did last year, and
what that means is losing the playoffs, not even getting
to the MCY Championship. It doesn't even matter about the
MCY Championship. At this point, you did that two years ago,
it's your fault. You did that two years ago. If
you don't do that doing it your way. See now
there's a different conversation about Brad Holmes at the end

(47:15):
of the season. All that nice stuff and all the
Jamior Gibbs and what Amara Brown and oh my god,
you choose Jack Campbell and nobody would choose them. All
that goes out the window.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
If this doesn't win, I think you're on right there.
So Dad, they can.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Do whatever they want to. Just know it's a lot
of fire coming behind if this isn't successful. If you
know in an.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Hour and eleven minutes, I'm telling you last year was
a multiple choice quiz. It was and you get Zadarius Smith.
You know usually the answer CE, So I'm gonna do that.
You got it. This this is a test where you
have to write the whole essay out to make sure
you're pleasing the professor and the fans and talk show

(48:00):
host and analysts are the professors.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Because this also is like the tough decisions, because that's
when Brad Holmes and his front office will start to
get critiqued. Is the tough decision. Yeah, like when you're
drafting Piney Sue, all right, yeah, look you made it.
You got Pine that was the great move. There were
like three four guys and all those guys hit, so
if you draft one, they would have hit. Twenty twenty one,

(48:23):
twenty twenty twenty two, No, the next year, eighten, because
this is what he gets all the credit for is
the draft correct aid and you have the number two
pick overall and your draft A and Hutcheon and worked
out for you. Congratulations, Mayot worked out for you, right,
one Hundredson twenty twenty three, Jamiir Gibbs, the big class,
you get more credit.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
No.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Twenty twenty two. I forgot about Jamison Williams. Oh, here's Jamo,
Here's twenty move picks up, here's thirty million dollars trying
to figure that out. Go to Jamier Gibbs. You get
credit for Jamior Gibbs, You get credit for Sam Report
and Jack Campbell and what they've had.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
But outside of that, here comes I'm on Rosson Brown.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
But yeah, yeah, okay, fourth RONI congrats, like scouted, he
did his yet right, here comes all those second rounders
that didn't hit. Here comes in this rag Straw. Here comes,
here comes Terry Arnold. If it doesn't work out continuing
this year with the stats.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Here comes Hendon Hooker in there, Here.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Comes Hendon Hooker. Here comes moving up for Giabonni Maneuver.
Here comes the projects. Here comes all of this stuff.
But then you know what really comes. Here comes all
the free agency moves that you chose to say, I'll
get the player that was hurt last year that will
be healthy this year, or I'll get the player that.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Or you start relying on them even more. Like Marcus Davenport.
We like him, we're good with with Marcus Davenport. But
but Brad, he's never played a full season. Most was
ever fifteen games, it was four or five years ago.
Look at the injury history. And then on top of that,
it's a double down. Okay, it's like rounders, it's like

(49:53):
pushing everything in the middle. And you know what, he
beats me. Yeah, that's tright. I know you love that
the movie. So what what what do you get? Instead
of the trade deadline? We're going, well, we're getting guys back.
How do you rely on those guys when they have
a proven track record that they are unreliable from a
health standpoint. That's where people, I think, start to get frustrated.

(50:16):
So when you hear I love the draft development, okay,
I have no problem with that, and I understand why
every team is doing it in this market. Okay, And
to a certain extent it's been it's been successful. But
in the end, what you have to do is you
have to evaluate as the season continues and realize, you
know what, even if we're drafting in development, which the

(50:38):
Jets did with Sauce Gardner and quinnin Williams, maybe it's
time to move on from a certain guy or know
this certain guy won't be here. Let's add now and
there's you know, there's an audible, there's an adjust adjustment.
You've got to be able to do that, and they
haven't done that.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, the Jet's way we're doing this situation was very
It's very amazing for because they're not this type of
team to make these type of moves, smart moves. This
is what I'm alluding to, to be able to put
yourself in a situation where you get a guy that
goes all Pro year one, then has a bad year,
then a really good year year three, and it's having

(51:15):
a great year, and you say, got it, that's what
the Tigers can do with Justin Berlander. Like I'm, I'm
I'm very impressed by these moves by the New York
Jets and Jerry congrats to but I'm I'm very impressed
by these moves. They're not the typical organization that can
pull these triggers.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
When it's what's the what's the trigger the Lions have
to pull? If if that at this time tomorrow, right,
And you and I are talking and you're smiling, and
Ryan's smiling, cool as always smiling. What what the what?
What's the well, you're just you're just channeling your inner
piston from last night, So stop it. Okay, Yeah, when

(51:57):
what is making you smile? What's the what's the move
that has to be done? I don't need a name,
I need a position or positions.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I need a dB worth. I need a dB worth
a third round pick and an offensive lineman worth a
third round pick. That would make me happy. The defensive
line situation, fine, you want to be fine with what
you have. We could figure that out. If you have
a dB it helps that out. And you bring the
guys along. Kirby, Joseph Will get healthy, Brian Branch will
get more healthy. Bring that back Jack Campbell, the way
in which he's playing. I think a number one, number

(52:28):
two dB can help that situation out immensely. It will
cover up the defensive end. If you want to go
that route offensive line, you gotta get a guy that
can play guard as well as tackle or as well
as center. The guy that is versatile. You bought up
Evan Neil yesterday. I did so those two moves. It
has to be to the I need dB, I need
offensive lineman. If they got that value for that, even

(52:50):
if it was a third round, third round pick, fourth round,
fourth round pick, I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I don't think they have a third round pick because
they traded it for Tesla, which is another mark against
Brad Holmes as of right now. Okay, and I like
the kid. When you get three snaps last week, at
what point are you going to go out and say,
I want to see this guy a little bit more.
It's a third round pick, but it's not just a
third round pick because of what you surrendered for. So
maybe a guy like a Lante Taylor. He's the corner
for the Saints. People have brought up Rerek wooland before

(53:18):
who I would love, But why would Seattle get rid
of him when Seattle's fighting for a division championship? Knowing
that then pieces yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
So.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, I mean they know that will cat you attention. Well,
the wide receivers always catch his attention.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
No, everyone catches my attention. But when you add what
he is to that, a guy that's four two speed
that stopped playing a four two speed on top of
when Jig Jig is the best receiving in NFL right now.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
He's the best receiving NFL right now, and that's including
my guy, Jamar says they're one and two. However, you,
however you want to fix it, that's fine. But now
you guys shd heat on the other side of that speed.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
Man while we're sitting are hoping that's the line?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Is Sam Donald's pretty happy today.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Sam Donald's an MVP quarterback and that's there's nothing behind that, Like,
you better watch out because his numbers now are better
than they were last year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Well, the guy you brought up last week is probably
the front runner. It's in the same division. Matthew Stafford's
unbelievable right now, he's gonna throw for four thousand, he's
gonna throw for forty, and he's gonna throw four picks
and his team might win the division. They played San
Francisco this weekend. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
It's crazy. If somebody had those stats last year and
lost the MVP, that's nute more.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
I like the fact that you're focusing on that offensive
line being something that you really want to see them do.
I think that's important because before we were asking for
an edge, the offensive line was the strength of the team.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
There was no doubt there.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
But as that conversations continued to go, you hear people
still talking about the edge, but I'm not seeing people.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Really bring it up.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
The same firestorm about the offensive line until this past weekend,
and now I'm seeing people lose.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
They gotta watch the show, they gotta watch the show.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Oh yeah, here, I know what.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
This has been a topic for us for a while now.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
Yeah, but the edge has been even to start the season,
that's what the weird good comments were about. But from
the start of the season, what really I think where
they kind of kept They took their eye away.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
From the goal at making the offensive line the strength
of this team as it had been the previous two years.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
When you're talking about how important it is for Jamier Gibbs,
how important it is for Jared Golf, I think you
got to start there before you ever talked about it Edge.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
But they didn't think about that though. They weren't thinking
about the importance for those players. All they were thinking
about because we had this conversation Gulet, we had even
before we started doing this show. We were talking about this,
that and the third. Yeah, the reason why they weren't
talking about is because they still had who they still
had to skill players, So they didn't think about the
offensive line. They didn't think about what Kevin Zeiler, Frank

(55:49):
rag now and with that consistency mad they thought we
still got almar Rod Saint Brown, Jamier Gibbs is healthy,
David Montgomery is healthy, so is Sam Laporta. This year
he's back. You know what, We got all the guys,
so we'll be oh, and we have Pine Suel blocks everybody.
Pine Sue is the only guy you need on the
offensive line. Apparently that was the thought process because you

(56:12):
can't necessarily see the impact of Kevin Ziley. You can't
see a Frank right now until I just.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
Wanted to ask really quickly to both of you guys, man,
where do you rank that offensive line?

Speaker 11 (56:23):
Now?

Speaker 6 (56:24):
It used to be undoubtedly just the absolute.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Strength, and now I'm looking at it and I got
some serious question marks, just like a lot of other
people have over this last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
What is the strength of the Detroit Lions right now?
That's a that's a fair question. What would be the strength? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I think it's a really fair question, you know, Yeah,
because Jarck Barnes has played.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Well, right and Jack Campbell is the best player on
defense in terms of what I'm seeing week the week.
I mean, we obviously know that Aiden is a better
potential player, but just this season is Jack.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I might lean toward wide receiver, but yeah, I could,
I could buy the camp to buy Lambeck.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Jamison is getting two kids a game position as a group.
He's one player, I know, but he's one player. How
can he How can that be? How can one player
be the strength?

Speaker 4 (57:17):
You have?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
No? Well, what I was going to say is Jamison
when they unlock Jamison Willings, we're talking about the group
as a whole. I think Jamison Williams, I think Isaac Teslaw,
and I think Kalief Rayman. I think it's a very
strong group I look at when I say strength of
a group, I wouldn't necessarily want to change the group.
I see that. Whereas with the offensive line, I want

(57:39):
to add to the group. Whereas with the secondary, we
want to add to the group where you could possibly
see them add to the defensive line. When I look
at my wide receivers, I think we're good. But I
do agree with Ryan. I love the linebacker Corps two
as long as they stay healthy. And now that Malcolm
Rodriguez is coming back, that is only only you know,

(58:00):
strengthens his argument. So that's where I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
At I saw it differently. I thought we were talking
about who's the best group, who's not the best group.
So when looking at it that way, the wide receivers
are nowhere near the best group. So I wasn't looking
in terms of who I want to replace, or not
looking at it your way, it makes a lot of sense.
I'm not trying to I mean, I can argue I'm
trying to replace Khalif and what has he done. Yeah,
I'm trying to Isaac Tesla. I don't know if it's

(58:24):
his fault or Johnny mose fault, but what is he done?
No agreed, and even Jamo Jamo he had.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
It's been a disappointment. I don't disagree with that. And
the hard argument for wide receivers is that there's only
one football to go around, and with linebackers, you're making
play after play after play, and you're assisting guys and
you're getting pressure. There are different ways to measure how
impactful the linebackers have. So I'm not taking to disagree
with it. I was just gonna say, originally the knee
jerk reaction for me was wide receivers. That doesn't mean

(58:52):
they've incorporated in the way I think they should.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
That's fair, Okay, I like that.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
What is the one trade you wish your head back?
Will continue that discussion. We'll get in on that. Kool
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Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
The one trade you'd like to have back? If you
are a Lions fan, what's the one trade you'd like
to have back?

Speaker 10 (01:05:40):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I sent this out earlier, so I assume everybody's got
an idea. I'll go first since I'm the one who
sent it out. Give you a chance to regroup and
collect your notes. I think the easy thing is twenty twenty.
That's when the Lions sent Darius Slade to Philadelphia for
two picks, A third and day fifth. And then what

(01:06:01):
did they use the third and the fifth?

Speaker 11 (01:06:03):
Four?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Jonah Jackson, the guard out of Ohio State who actually
was a pro bowler but has been bumped around Chicago,
the Rams okay uh, and then Quintes Cephas, who's a
wide receiver from Wisconsin. And I'm racking my brain to
think of the really good wide receivers from Wisconsin outside

(01:06:26):
of Altoon.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Ile Evans Lee Evans. I mean he's now Altoon's level.
He was nice in college and he's first round draft
pick oh four, I think he would pick fourteen years
to Buffalo Inn, the Ravens, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Chris Chambers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
You got to think really long and hard. It's not
like wide receiver running.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Chris Chambers got drafted Miami Dolphins, had a couple of
Pro Bowl years. A good friend of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I suppose it's nothing. The way I described it is
two words, nothing special. Anyway, that's my trade. I wish
you had back not to mention the fact that you
didn't like the people who did it. You know, it's
Bob Quinn, it's Matt Patricia. The belief that Matt Patricia
said something to Darius lay with the entire team seeing
it and talking about how this team is losers and

(01:07:19):
so on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
That adds to it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
But the bottom line was that dude could play corner
He's still playing corner to this day. Quintess Cephus is not.
Jonah Jackson's forgotten the team win a ring he did.
This is true.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Coolid what you got. I'm still trying to think about mine.
Like you know, I told you I wouldn't necessarily Alliance
fans two floating around, all right, the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
One trade you wish you had back if you're Alliance fair.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Man, man Man.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
I don't remember if it was a trade or not,
but Quandre Diggs was another one of those guys doing
that air settle first.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
Yeah, I think it was a six round draft pick
that It was like gut punch man to me.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
And you're talking about people who I didn't well the
identity of our defense, the guys who you could you
knew they were gonna go out there and whether they
had the technique down that day. You knew that they
were gonna bring that punch every single hit. You knew
that they were gonna go to the next play and
try and make that up. That was something also synonymous
with Darius Say so you're talking about those two guys
gone with all of the noise surrounding, uh, you know,

(01:08:19):
smartest guys in the room.

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
Uh, you know Patrician and Quinn.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Yeah, that that that's stunk, especially guys who you could
see them visibly out at the football games, out in
the community, cool with the media stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
That that was that stunk.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Man, it did yep. Three time Pro bowler Ryan, you
got one?

Speaker 11 (01:08:38):
Can I just go with the whole Quinn Tricia era
throw it away? I think I think Tim Patrick could
affect the team right now. I think I thought that
Isaac Tesla I thought would have done a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:08:54):
I really can't think of any other tide of my
head trades wise. I thought maybe Tim Patrick could affect
a team at them. That's what I honestly have no idea.
I thought the slay and Quandre Diggs. Diggs was kind
of mine, but hey, kool A has it so yeah, No,
I would honestly say Diggs.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Was was the worst one for me that I remember.

Speaker 11 (01:09:12):
But I can't think of anyone different ones.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I think Tim Patrick. Tim Patrick has four rocks this
year for Jacksonville. That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:20):
Four.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
That's why a month either one hand catches.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
You're right, except they made the touchdown catch and that's it.
Patrick's had one touchdown brilliant too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Also, I know why you laughed, and I agree it
wasn't off the top of your head because he sent
it into the group, so I knew that's why you laughed.
I'm saying it's the Lions organization. So it hasn't been
a ton of bad trades because the franchise is bad.
You even recouped a lot for Roy Williams, which I
didn't think y'all deserved for that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
So I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Maybe Joey Harrington, I think two thousand and five, I
want to say he traded him for a fifth round pick.
Like you drafted him his third overall quarterback in two
thousand and two, and then you turn around three years
later you trade him just a fifth round pick. That
means you shouldn't have drafted him in your first place.
So looking at the totality of that situation, I think
it's a horrible situation for them. But drafting a third

(01:10:11):
overall and then three years later trading him for a
fifth that's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
That's smart, doesn't it. I mean, that's that really hurts.
I thought somebody might say, and we're all too young
for this. But the lane, Yeah, the Bobby Lane.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
I didn't want to do that, just from the standpoint like,
all right, I can't. I can't crack jokes on. You're
talking about Bob Gibson and they come up here and
let me tell you about Bobby Lane in nineteen fifty eight,
so I said, but I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Yeah, so that that is commonly used as the reference
point more than anything else. All right, good stuff. Appreciate that.
Anybody in the chat feel free.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
Oh yeah, Dante, you're saying the Golden Tate trade Dante one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Trading him away or trading for him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I think we signed him, signed him as a free agent.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Yes, I thought so.

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
Maybe he means that at least the acquisition.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Okay, that's a that's a good thing though, that was
a good thing for Detroit. I'm talking about the one
you wish you had back.

Speaker 11 (01:11:08):
So he traded under the Giants.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Oh no, he could, and he picked you or the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
I was gonna say it was were you thinking of
the kid out of Northern Illinois, the wide receiver at
Iland Northern Illinois?

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Any Galladay?

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Kenny Galladay is the one who went to the Giants.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
So I didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
Then I did trade Golden Tate to the Eagles. Yeah,
he said us the Golden.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Tate to the Eagles, not to the Giants though. Yeah right, okay, yeah,
I forgot that was yeah. Yeah, look, that's a good one. Yeah,
that that is a really good one. I liked the
Golden Tate. I thought he was really good here. I
thought he was one of those guys who was always
a stand up guy. He later went to the Giants
after the Eagles. Yeah, I think that's what you were thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Never walked in the end zone normally though, what's that?
Never walked into the end zone normally though?

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
He was like, then, those are five good years here,
five good years for for Golden Take that's a good one.
Anything else from the chat that we need to get to,
or any breaking news that you've seen kool aid? As
you know, we look at forty six minutes and forty
five seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Breaking news, no shocking, Yeah, that's this is This.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Is getting more troublesome as we get closer. I'm not
a guy who believes, Okay, you gotta do it first
thing in the morning. I don't care as long as
you do it. But the longer it takes to announce,
the more concerned I get. For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Let me ask this question at the end of the day.
The trade dead line has been this date for the
whole year. You've been this season, for what the season was.
You've had your eyes all the same like this. It's
nothing new. Like when GM's front office, they have their
eyes on some guys from the time the season starts. Hey, look,
just in case, keep your eye on such and such.

(01:12:50):
Keep your eye on such and such. The fact that
you could have did it last week. You could have
did it on Saturday. You could it on Sunday, you
did it on Monday, you could have did at nine
am the day. It's not just about you can do
it before four o'clock, it's what are you waiting for?

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
But you would admit that the needs have changed you
and I said, even though a couple of weeks ago
we were a little concerned about the offensive line depth, Okay,
but the needs have changed just a little bit from
edge rusher to corner. That's why I asked you at
the beginning of the show, how would you rank it?
So they're slightly different now than perhaps they would have
been if you wanted to do this two saturdays ago.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Okay, I could see that, I could I could potentially
almost counter that though with if you had to wait
till today, well, I guess yesterday would have been there
after game. You had to wait till yesterday to see
what your team was, then who the hell is in charge? Yeah,
who's sleep at the wheel? Because last time I checked
Scouts Brownholmes, Dan Campbell, you know what this team is

(01:13:50):
starting off when the training camp starts. So you know
what that team is. You know where you're deficient, you
know where you're pretty good, you know where you're strong.
This isn't a It just so happens that on Sunday
we got exposed. Hey you had an inkling. This was
a potential. It just came to a head on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
So here's my fear, and I don't know how justified
it is, but my fear is that what they're gonna
do is they're going to try and sell us Tristan Colan,
They're gonna or cologne or Coyote, Coyote Oseika. They're gonna
try and sell us that as if that's gonna be

(01:14:28):
the difference for us. We're okay, you said good, We're okay,
We're good because we've got these guys. There's a reason
they're second teamers. You want first team guys. You want Now.
The irony here is you're gonna look at a team
that's not very good and you want one of their starters.
Like that's going like that should help you if they're

(01:14:49):
so good. Like somebody put in our group chat yesterday
or maybe it was this morning, that's a good one
because I've mentioned it. Andrew Wiley. Andrew Wiley's from Midland, Michigan,
went to Eastern Michigan. I just want a couple of
rings with the Chiefs. He's a tackle. He could play
inside because he played inside in college. I don't fear
that he's up the nine games this year he started four.

(01:15:11):
Do you want him? I would want him as a
depth guy. I'm not talking about the solution here. Yeah,
so there is a little bit of a difference there.
I think when you make that move right, this is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
True, but you don't necessarily have to get somebody's won.
You're not looking for one. You're looking for two to three, okay,
because you're looking for a guys too. Because if he's two,
he means he can't start in the NFL. And if
it's three, that means he's serviceable is I don't know
what you know what I'm saying. He started to get
the threes and fours or fours and fives and things
of that nature. But two, I don't that's what you
need because that's what the team is willing to part

(01:15:40):
with if the price is right. Outside of that, you
gotta go to a team that is horrible, like the Titans,
like the Raiders, and try to pull from them. Hey, look,
we know you guys aren't doing it. Just like fantasy football. Look, man,
you won in six like let me let me get
this wide receiver, let me get this dB. What do
you need me to do to make you feel good
about yourself? But also, you know you're not going anywhere.

(01:16:00):
Maybe I'm helping you for the future. So you either
look at that type of.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Team, do me a solid?

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Yeah, do me solid?

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
I paid.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Eight back down the road. But you're you're looking for
a team that is bad that can do you a solid,
or you're looking for a team that is stacked. It
feels good and hey, look let me get that number two,
Let me get that guy. I remember two thousand and eight,
I was playing for the Brons and we had two
centers Okay, we have the Charles Bentley from Ohio State,

(01:16:31):
from the Saints.

Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
We were excited we had a backup center. Can think
of his name right now, it lose me. That was
pretty good as well. Came with a pretty indecent ticket.
It's two million or one point eight or whatever it
was at that time, and we were locked in low
Charles blows his knee out and he blows then out,
so he's done. So now we got this guy and
they gave him a deal. They were about to give
him a deal. He decides he wants to retire. And

(01:16:55):
this is why I had that conversation. Some players like
being the backup, so some players they can't deal with
the pressor of being the guy, so he becomes a guy.
They offer more money. He was like, I'll tire. No,
I'm done. So now we're going out trying to find
a center for when when the season started, and it's
you know, now we're at the mercy of teams, but

(01:17:18):
we also we wont that good. So it's like, we'll
give you this, but we're not giving you that because
you know we're not Indianapolis going.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Do you think the Lions are looking at this? We
need a guy who's gonna put us over the top.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
No, I do not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I think the Lions, So you don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
If I'm reading that, you said you want somebody in
the secondary and somebody of the offensive line. You're looking
for secondary pieces. In other words, you're telling me their
starters are good enough to win. Right, you're telling me.
You're telling me the starters are good enough to win

(01:17:56):
if you're looking for secondary pieces.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
I'm what I'm telling you is the fact that it's
an hour. Excuse me, it's less than an hour. You're
not getting Sauce Gardner for two first rounders. You're not
going to get insert dB here that's going to be
her dB one in the future. You're happy with dj RE,
so I have to be happy with dj E. So
what I'm now doing with this conversation is you still
need some dbs. Let's get some twos because that's where

(01:18:20):
the money that you might want to spend Lions, that's
where it's at.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the money because, as
we made mention of a week ago, the Lions had
the fourth most cap space of any team in the
National Football League. And this is where this front office
and coaching staff is running a risk. Not that they
do things for the fans. I get that, all right.
You do what's best. You have a plan, you try

(01:18:45):
to execute it. You do it's best for your organization,
not the fan base. Otherwise, every year people are drafting
the second coming of JaMarcus Russell. Okay, so I understand
all that, but this is the danger that they're walking into.
They've got the money, they've got the need, they've got
the resources. Where's the sense of urgency.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Here's a problem with the Detroit Lions. The problem with
the Detroit Lions is there in the NFC North, and legitimately,
when they looked at that game against the Carolina Panthers,
they're not buying the Green Bay Packers when they lost
to the Minnesota Vikings, though they lost, they're not buying
that the Minnesota Vikings are better than them. And when
they look down in Chicago off Michigan Lake Lake Michigan,

(01:19:26):
they're not buying that the Chicago Bears are better than
them either. They're looking at their own division and that's
where they're getting a sense of we're good because they
still think they're the best in their division right now
and I can't disagree. I can't disagree. They're like, look,
we're better than those three. We'll win this division. We'll
be fine, we'll get some pieces back, we'll grow, YadA,

(01:19:47):
YadA YadA. That's where the Lions are right now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Gotta YadA, YadA YadA from Seinfeld. So the problem people
have with that, it is a problem. It's a serious problem.
The problem people have with that is we're good enough
to win the division. That is not the goal, should it,
nor was it ever their goal. I'm not saying it is,
but that is not the goal. It literally is, and
that's a good expectation to have. Okay, we've said this

(01:20:12):
before about the Tigers. This is not just the Lions.
You've said it about the University of Michigan. You've got
the talent. Everybody recognizes it. If you're healthy, that's a
big if. But if you're healthy, that is the goal,
and that should be the goal. Knowing that you need
to do what you can without sacrificing, sacrificing too much
of your future. You need to do what you can

(01:20:34):
to seize that moment. I don't believe in windows. You
know that, Okay, I believe in player windows not organizational windows.
This is an opportunity, though, for this team to make
something happen where they can be a legitimate contender. That said,
if they don't do something, I don't want to hear
any crying about injuries or anything else when they get

(01:20:54):
passed up by some other teams. Because the NFC is
so wide open, they've got to seize this moment.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Brandley, yeah, saying at the end of the day, like
the last two things about it, Like you may think
your team is still the best in the division. Last
time I checked, he got two losses in the division.
That's right, two loss in the division with nine games left,
and you have to play those teams three more times.
Like that's just in your division. Like teams that want
to win the Super Bowl, you have to go to

(01:21:20):
that extra mile. Like if your team has deficiencies, this
isn't the team last year that was healthy where you're like,
it's a good team, and we figured out this is
a team that is kind of depleted, has some deficiencies,
had some retired players trying to figure some things out.
I look at twenty twenty one. I know y'all hate
talking about him, so I won't even bring his name up,
but I'll just bring that team up. The Los Angeles Rams,

(01:21:42):
they legitimately had a triple Crown f and winner at
the wide receiver spot, and they said, it's not gonna
be enough. We need a guy. Let's get this guy
who there's some issues going on with him. I don't
know if he's a bad guy or not a team guy,
or if he's healthy or if he's hurt. But I
think if we get this guy out, Dell Beckham, it
can help us. You know, Let's let's back it up
a little bit. We need somebody to help Leonard Floyd

(01:22:05):
as well as the best defensive player that has happened
in the last twenty five years on the off that
defensive line. Let's get somebody that can help Aaron Donald.
You know what, I think von Miller still has something
in the tank. He had so much intentk that he
had two sacks in the Super Bowl. They went on
and got more players to make a really good team
even that much better. And guess what happened with those

(01:22:26):
players in the playoffs. Oh, they all had five touchdowns
in the playoffs. Von Miller had two sacks in the
Super Bowl. Like, it's not about not being a good
team like you get few chances to be this And
I know it's new for us, and we think we're
gonna be here forever. Maybe we will put in all likeness.
We probably will not. You got strike while in Irons High,

(01:22:47):
and it's not even just about striking while in Iron High.
Your team is actually deficient, legitimately deficient at three positions.
You can help your team out by helping him in
two of those positions.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
And by the way, that von Miller, which is a
great example, because they had the best defensive player, like
you said, last twenty five years. You could argue he's
the best defensive tackle of all time. But the Broncos
received a second round pick that they used on Nick Benito,
who's legally is closed, and a third round pick for
Von Miller, and you won.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
A super Bowl and we're still talking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Oh and by the way, they're back in super Bowl contention,
not just last year, but this year too.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
The year after they legitimately had one bad year after
all those f them picks from Lesnie, they had one
year downtime. Part of that was injuries, part of that
was an Aaron Donogunna play. The very next year they're
in the playoffs, and the very next year they were
this close from beating the team in Philly that won
the Super Bowls. Right, and now they're arguably the best

(01:23:47):
team in the league. You can come right back. You
don't have to give it one and now all of
a sudden, you're done for five years.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
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they're doing it with a thirty seven year old quarterback
who still hasn't absolute Howitzer and can't really move in
the pocket. Gotta have that guy who can run for
a first down. Matthew Stafford zipping it all over the yard,
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Well, there's twenty no other breaking news, twenty seven minutes left.
Here's what I would ask, And I know the Lions
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(01:32:18):
gut tells you what are they going to make a move?
Just simple yes or no, no, No.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
I stand firm one same thing. I said. It starts
the eason last week today. The answer is no. And
I the only thing that my only issue is this
is this is this is the most pressing matter is
There's no way you can look at the game from
this past Sunday and tell yourself you're good like I
get it. It's it's a one off, it's a game,

(01:32:46):
it's you know, it happens, it's the division arrival. It's
early in the year. You have ten weeks. There's no
way that that team that lost to the Vikings team
as currently constructed is going to be worth anything of
note or fear or worry come January. That would be
my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
I don't disagree with that. Just so people know, I
mean Jack Conley. They signed him. He's a rookie guard
signed to the practice squad. He was a team not
that this matters. He was a teammate of Christian Mahogany's
at Boston College. Ironically, enough was undrafted, signed with the Patriots,

(01:33:29):
and now he's a member of the Lions practice squad.
At BC, he was a right guard. He's a depth guy, right.
So we were just talking about this. I fall guilty
of it too. I just want people to know we
want we want sexy picks we want. We want sexy acquisitions,

(01:33:50):
and we want sexy picks we want. And when I
say sexy, I mean we want people we know. I
want to be able to go, oh, this is how
good brailln. Edwards was Withveland. I know he's going to
be really good with the Jets whomever it may be.
That's what we want, and I understand it. I don't
know if we're gonna get that, but I am. I
believe they're going to do something today. I do. I

(01:34:12):
believe within the next half hour that they're gonna do something.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
What that is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
I don't know how sexy of a pick is it,
or sexy of a trade is it, How big of
a name is it. I don't know. I think they're
gonna do something. They can't like it just because of
what you said, Bradlen. They can't look at what Minnesota.
The game against Minnesota, and let's let's go back a
little bit further. Forget about it for a minute. Okay,
sure they weren't ready. It was a surprise out of
the bye week against you know, Minnesota. Prior to that,

(01:34:41):
you know you got Kansas City weren't ready, weren't ready.
You've got even Tampa, even though you played pretty well,
your offense didn't quite click right. Twenty four seventeen, twenty
four of those are the points.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
You legitimately had. You have one really good series, then
you have one two electric plays, like if you want
to break that game down, you had the Alma around
Saint Brown series where he was electric. They were phenomenal.
It seemed like they got back to it. He scored
a touchdown, and you had the two Jamior Gibbs runs,
and you had a.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Couple you put on Braylen's breakdown where Penny sou was
out leading the way yup.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Outside of those that drive those two plays, that's an
ugly game and I know you can't omit those two
plays because they happened, respectfully, shout out to everything that
worked in that play, the offensive line player and then
Jamior Gibs. But those two plays in one series.

Speaker 8 (01:35:33):
It so dude.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Look at last weekend, I mean against spend a sort
they had the one really good series on the opening drive.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
It's the first time I was watching the Lions game
from being honest that I did not think the Lions
are gonna win. And they weren't even behind by that
much shot. I know they weren't even behind by that much.
Like they were consistently ten points close, like the whole
sometimes seven, and I didn't think they were gonna win
that game. The only time I felt like that was
after the Jamison Williams attempt against the Commanders, the only time,

(01:36:03):
and maybe Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
I think what people are good at least me. I'm
gonna speak for myself the frustration I feel you brought
Alexander earlier. You literally got JayR Alexander and a seventh
round draft pick for a sixth rounder. To me, I
don't do you do the view that as creativity? I
don't know. I view that as you know, kicking tires,
having relationships and valuing certain things, and a sixth rounder

(01:36:29):
to me is not quite all that valuable. You got
a depth guy, Philly got a depth guy for a
sixth rounder. They got a wide receiver for a seventh rounder.
They got a defensive end for a third rounder.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
As I can play too, though, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Yeah, and there, and they're talking about these are these
are picks that I mean, granted, a third rounder, I'm
a big believer of third rounder should be a starter.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
But they've shown you into your credit, but the lines
have shown you they don't care about third rounders. And
I'm not trying to be disrespectful. They've shown you we'll
take chances with the third round.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Because we traded them. We've drafted certain guys, we've cut
certain guys. Hello, Hendon Hooker hundred percent. So how in
the world, I think this is a legitimate question from
Lions fans. How does howis Rosman be able to go
to to Baltimore and say, hey, I want your area, Alexander,
when your division's wide open, I'll give you a six

(01:37:19):
round draft pick. How the hell does that happen? And
the Lions aren't in that conversation, that's all. How is
that possible?

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Is Brad Holmes a member of the club Yet.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
I don't know the answer to that. I would hope
so he deserves to be.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
Well, what I'm saying is, then why people I don't
know this to be fact, so this is just conversation.
Then why aren't people doing deals with like deals that matter?
Because the sexy pick, it's not about being sexy, and
it's not even about knowing the players, because I'll be
honest to you, there's the players that get away from
now forty two leads evolving in random places like I
do all the homework that I can when I see something, okay, cool,

(01:38:00):
let me down into this player. Oh, who's this guy
who's bitch, who's Blaschoe total? Let me let me find
out what he's doing to Jackson. I'll do the homework one.
But there's a lot of guys I don't know. It's
not about wanting one of those guys that you know.
It's about wanting something. When you explain it to me,
I instantly can belave. It makes sense if you told
me you gave up a third round pick for this
guy who's the third d B on the team. This

(01:38:22):
is what his stats are, This is what he's done,
this is where he's from, and you can make it
make sense. I don't need to know who he is
because that makes sense. So you know all you can
look at it and say, I get the one hundred.
You give me a defensive end who's fourth on the
depth chart, but you know over the last three seasons
he's had ten sacks. You know, ten sacks, eleven sacks
wherever it is, so you it makes sense in the

(01:38:44):
plays and it doesn't have to be the sexy pick
in which I know this guy, I know where he
went to school, I know when we went to college,
I know his story. Can this guy play? Does it
make sense?

Speaker 9 (01:38:56):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Is this a play? When you lay it all out,
I can look and say, you know what move they
put something together there? Or is it like you're trying
to feed me. You know the practice squad player that
you bought in in October that's gonna help us in January?
News flash? Are you making it to January?

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
In addition to that, whether you like it or not,
this is you're measured against different teams. Players are measured
against different players. Why everybody moves exactly you in your
draft class, other players were measured against you, okay, because
you were the third overall pick. There were wide receivers
taken after you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Well, Visaxon tells me all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Okay, so you see that. I'm on Ross Saint Brown
knows the wide receivers who was taken ahead of them. Okay,
especially in first round picks. Teams are measured against other
teams too. And when a fan base sees how active,
whether you think it's right or not, how active the
Eagles have become at the trade deadline, when they're in
first place and they won a Super Bowl. That doesn't

(01:39:59):
bode well for fan appreciation or perception of your franchise.
When you're sitting on your hands drafting practice players. That's
a fact. Now. Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell can brush
it off, and that's fine, Okay. All I'm saying is
if you're gonna brush it off, if you're going to

(01:40:19):
take that method and take that tact, you better flip
and win a Super Bowl. Because getting to the NFC
Championship game in Philadelphia in January, when they've added three
significant players, you and I are suddenly watching how much
those players have mattered to them. Oh and by the way,

(01:40:40):
the one thing. They talked Brandon Graham out of retirement.
Frank Ragnow was asked or Dan Campbell's asked about Frank
Ragnow today and he says that ship is sailed. God
respect him right. Brandon Graham was convinced to come.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Back and off of injury as well as well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
And off an injury, came back and they added to
that stable of the defensive ents. I'm glad that they
needed it. But that's how active, that's how influential they
have been. You may not want to be measured against
the Philadelphia Eagles, but you are because they're the standard
in the NFC.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
Some individuals like to be told they're the best in
the room. Some individuals like being the best in the room.
I don't know where Brad Holmes is yet, and it's
no disrespect to him. I don't know where he's at
right now. Is he an individual that wants to be
the best in the room at his job or if

(01:41:35):
he likes being told he's a mad scientist, he's cooking.
Look what he did with al Moran Saint Brown. He
told he chose pinate Sue over Michael Parsis like Man
Jamier gives no one in this climate, would have thought
to get a running back and move up to twelve
or move back, excuse me, from six to twelve and
incorporate that man. He wouldn't got Jack Campbell. Nobody was
getting sixty five two hundred and forty five pound linebackers anymore.

(01:41:58):
A lot of kudos going his way, and rightfully, so
at what point do you stop listening to the kudos
and you keep cooking? Because Brad Holmes, there's one thing
he's done that he does not even the free agency,
not even the draft. There's one thing he does. It
bothers me. He feeds into the conversations that the fans
have at the podium. How many times have you seen

(01:42:18):
him at the podium. He's claiming receipts, he's pointing out
people and this is.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
What was said.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
And I don't like this and this question. You told
me I should do this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Well, he hasn't been listening to the fans lately when
it comes to that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
But I'm saying, like to engage in conversation around that,
like I mean, Jack, you might want to listen to it.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
Look, said jacko Quintle in the chat here on the
Facebook chat. Actually he's been going kind of on Brady.
He says, Look, Brad has done a great job building
what we have now. I just like him to go
and get some help when we need it to get
us to the next level. Because all that next man
up it's not helping us right now. All that we're
getting that, all that we're getting Dipport back, we will

(01:42:57):
be fine. That's not going to help us right now either.
So he appreciates like what Brad has been to get
us to this point, but he doesn't believe that he's
necessarily putting us in position to win that Super Bowl.
And I see other people in this Facebook chat who
are there, They're saying it. Yeah, it sounds to Facebook
Jim Short. Look, he says, I'd much rather have Howie Roseman.

(01:43:18):
At least he sets his team up to go get
Super Bowls. People aren't happy right now, man.

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Look, I would love to be able to argue with you.
I can't. No, I'm serious. You can go out. Maybe
you signed DeVante Casey, who was released by the Browns
as the safety from the I think it was released
on Monday yesterday. You can you can go do that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
I was just watching two individuals that were older. Over
the last this past week, both of them had good
games and I was just looking at them play. I
was like, they both were they both were available, they
both were affordable, and they both were a position of me. Yeah,
obviously this isn't to add on to the Brad Holmes conversation.
It's just something myself, Like, Joey Bosa doesn't look that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
I thought the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
Ja Damian Clowney. Now his defense sucks. He didn't look
that bad last night. He was in the backfield whole game.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Game.

Speaker 3 (01:44:14):
But I was told, but I was told, But I
was told. You know, it's it's a culture thing when what.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
We build okay, well, and we don't want to talk about.
Here's what I always say. Here's what I always say
to that though, if your culture is that strong, okay,
the culture of this show boom you kool aid Ryan
bringing in the wrong person should should the culture should
overcome that person's negativity if you will. If you build
such a strong culture, you have to worry about what

(01:44:40):
that's what you did with me. Yeah, look at how
quickly after do you think what There is a message
that Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes have said pretty consistently.
It's got to be the right player, it's got to
be the right fit, it's got to be the right price.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Sometimes you just got to be the right place, and
sometimes you just got to be the really right place
to counteract that. Because I'll give you the flip side
me going to the New York Jets, all right, you know,
let's put all the business out there. Me going to
the New York Jets. I was coming to the Jets
after getting into an altercation outside of a nightclub. I
was coming after where I had a speeding ticket for

(01:45:14):
you know, blah blah blah. You know what I'm saying whatever,
Like I was coming with this. You know, Brayln Edwards
is outspoken. He's just that and the third and he
YadA YadA. Do you want to have him on your team?
There was some question marks, like I didn't know this
until I got there. They told me this, they pulled
the trigger. They didn't care about that because the place
in Rex Ryan's my I don't know. He's a football guy.

(01:45:35):
I see what you do. I've played against him when
I was in Baltimore. This is the right team for him.
I'm the right coach for him. Going against the Royal
Reews every day. That's the right matchup for him. Like
being coached by now the head coach for the Dallas Cowboys.
This is a place where we can bring him. We're
gonna rock and roll and have some fun. Like it's
not about those first three Sometimes it's about are you

(01:45:55):
the right place? And y'all keep telling me that this
is the place. You keep telling me the buy I
see it, I see it. It's not about you guys
telling me, I see what the energy is. You guys
can overcome some of these things you think of. Get
out of your own ways.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Thank you. Take We've got less than thirteen minutes in
the trade, Dent. I literally feel like Ryan's Seacrest sometimes
with the big ball ready to drop.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Hello, Hello, is this is this Detroit Lions? Hey? What's
going on?

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
Yeah, yeah, I still can play. It's the Lions, the Lions.
It's going Yeah. How are you doing, Brad? We're sitting
here talking about right now? So eight plays?

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
You know, well, you know how the a cl injury
in two thousand and five and miniscus in two thousand
But I'm goods are good now?

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
All right?

Speaker 11 (01:46:44):
I see you down in Parky, so we get to
bring down there it is right now, How's that's right
for the Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
It's not good for us, it's not good for us. Well,
your your truck has parked right over there. Jack, listen,
we've got less than about twelve minutes now left there.
Jeremy follower, ESPN Breaking news Here he says, teams say
New York. Teams say New York. The Jets want a
second round pick for edge Jermaine Johnson. Otherwise he'll stay

(01:47:14):
with the.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Team Florida State.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
He's yeah, he went. He went to Florida State. Thumbs
up or thumbs down on a second round pick for
an edge rusher, like that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
Thumbs up because you've approved you don't know to do
a second round pick outside of Brian Brands.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Thumbs up, Okay, thumbs up, thumbs down.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
Height thumbs up. Man, this is you know what two
packs of kool aid.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
And all the cigarettes. Okay, right, thumb thumbs up, thumbs.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
Down, thumbs up. But I don't see it happening.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Yeah, so just just for clarification, clarify here, he's got
one sack this year, didn't have a sack last year,
but did have seven and a half two years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Yeah, what is your second round to do? Last year?

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Yeah, has done anything.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
So I'm looking at it from like you said, the
reason I bring that up. You keep it fun.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
You keep saying that it's you're looking for depth. Yeah,
that's that's a pretty good depth guy. And being that
your track record on second round picks has not been great.
Enis Rakestraw was drafted, I think is a nickel more
than a starter. Okay, so that's kind of a depth
guy to a certain extent. If I can play with words.
What would be wrong with that?

Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
I to answer that question. First of all, I would
never draft a depth guy in the second round a
dB second round drafting a starter.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
So if you're a drafting guy because you believe he's
a nickel, you've you've messed up already.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
But getting back to that conversation, I agree with you.
It's a second round pick. It's you're in a different space, yep.
Like picks are still valuable, very valuable, but you're in
a space right now where like this this year, we
know where we want to go to. We know actually
we know what you told is Brad, Yeah at the
Pony Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
But this is super Bowl or but one.

Speaker 3 (01:49:09):
Dan campbells worse if it's a situation where I feel
like down the line, it's gonna come back to to
pay dividends.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Okay, So I agree with all that, all right, I'm
on the same page as you. That's the reason we've
been saying what we've been saying about super.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
Bowl or bus.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
But on this show, we have all collectively yours truly
is included. We've all bitched and moaned about them drafting
and acquiring injured players. And I say, Jermaine Johnson, who
was who played two games last year and it's only
played five games this year, and we're all thumbs up.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
Why because it's before the deadline.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
We've done nothing. Because you want to feel good exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
That's why you gotta That's why I say this all
the time. Take the damn emotion out of it. Forget
your heart, use your head. Would you do it knowing
that information? I just gave you no sacks last year
two games, one sack this year five games. Now that
you have that information?

Speaker 6 (01:50:06):
Third round?

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
I said what I said. I scouted him. I like
Jamaine Johnson, I like the potential, and I like the
value that he can add on I do.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
I would probably do the same thing, Okay, So I
don't disagree with that. I just want to I like
to get the information out there different and then you
give me because immediately the emotion is oh, absolutely, come
on man. But then it's like, wait a minute, I
didn't think about that. Seven games in the last two.
If that's Josh Pascal, you're pissed and rightfully so.

Speaker 6 (01:50:35):
Yeah, And you know what, Jesse Woodward in the chat,
I see you, homie.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
I gotta read these comments because I think you guys
are speaking for him, especially when you talk about I
can't even argue with this. The fans have, they have
a gripe, he says. The Lions have the most dedicated
fans in the league, going on sixteen and never been
to a Super Bowl. Yet we still stay strong. Now
our game tickets at a hyast in NFL. How does
our GM show he cares to win? At the trade

(01:51:00):
deadline he signs a practice squad player.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
Are they the highest? I didn't know that they're the
highest in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
I know that they were one of the highest.

Speaker 6 (01:51:07):
And when you look at like weekly, when they show
like the highest game ticket week. The Lions routinely.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Interesting pop up in those times.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Knowledge Thank you, the Lions has been number one last
year and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't realize. I know they had
a huge hot man, I know they had any that's good,
that's a that's a really good uh uh information in
the chat. Thank you for that. We gotta hit a
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Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Hey, we are back with three minutes. Man, we got
about three minutes, three and a half minutes left to mess.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Oh dude is before we forget so sign though. Now
we touch you guys out on those three minutes. I'll
make it fast. Get that picture right. You don't have
to put up. You have a picture, you can put
them some other people at home. So earlier today, shep,
I'm legitimately en route to the show. Come in here
and kick it with the brother Netwi show with my guys. Shep.
Over there, Ryan as well as kool A, and I'm
next to this silverado. I believe I'm in the right

(01:55:52):
lane and right next to her, and it's this attractive.
You know, there's attractive young female in there. And I
never would have known what she was gonna do next,
like chef was attractive. Quick lands over, okay, cool waiting
at the light, shep. She proceeds to take her finger
and she put it into a place where she was
looking for gold, and then she proceeds to pull out

(01:56:13):
the gold. I won't finish, but.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
Yes, yes, shep.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
She proceeds to double back, so like it got what
she doubled back. So I legitimately let her go ahead.
I said, I gotta get from next to her, pull
behind her, and I saw it was a Mischigan state license.
I was like only spartans eating buggers, many runs deep,

(01:56:39):
still only spartans are eating boogers like she was twenty
and was at a light at a major intersection, just
just going ham and cheeseburger.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
Break down.

Speaker 3 (01:56:55):
And so but I just was all right, well, you
know what, I'll get behind it, like I didn't see
it because kind of mine, you know whatever, can you
not look at to each his own? And then I
get behind the car, I see the license places and
I was like, boy, oh boy, wait.

Speaker 6 (01:57:08):
Bright, you don't give me this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Don't give me this. There's no tweaches on situation.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
But you know, we love a different signe. There's a
lot of boogeries out there. So you know, I don't
want I don't want to judge anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Stopping just stop being so damned politically correct. You could
judge somebody who takes something from their nose and puts
it in their mouth and eventually it's gonna kiss somebody
with that same mind.

Speaker 9 (01:57:28):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
Come on, damn, I did judge them. I put them
on the show and I put the license plate number.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Thank you. That's just okay, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
That's judgments. So I thought that would be a good
Michigan state doing Michigan state things. Mischigan basketball looked good
last night.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
May Michigan basketball looked really good. There's a reason they're
preseason seven. I looked at the CBS Sports dot Com.
They picked their final fours in Of the five writers,
I think two of them at Michigan, I think all
of them had produced.

Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
That Dusty May is.

Speaker 11 (01:58:07):
What overrated.

Speaker 3 (01:58:08):
Oh okay, Dusty May would be the Yeah, they didn't
win anything.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
They played for a champions a few years ago. Go ahead, Sorry, I.

Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
Was gonna say dust Dusty McVeigh would be the example
of if you're looking for a coach in this landscape
in this era, like, he's a good land he's a
he's a good marker for what I.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
See what you did there, Dusty McVeigh, Sean McVay. Yeah,
I'm gonna be wrong, by the way, I'm gonna be
flipping wrong. There's twenty seconds left in the deadline and.

Speaker 6 (01:58:38):
I'm sitting here looking. I'm looking, and I'm looking. I'm
not saying anything.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
I know it's we're good.

Speaker 6 (01:58:43):
We do have the winner for.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
That's gonna get really old, by the way, just so
people know, that's gonna get really old for me. Yeah, Constant,
we're good. I mean he set himself up for we
are We're gonna hear that forever now. And if they
don't win the super Bowl this year, if they do
win the super Bowl there, which would be great, no
one's gonna say anything about it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
But but he he, but he kept saying, I know
it wasn't like a one off. I know you did
like once, and it's like, all right, we understood that moment.
He did it so much that he was talking about
different positions at different times he said it. So now
it's become like the minor.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
It's we're good, dude. This is literally the worst case scenario.
Like I would have rather than done nothing than sign
a guide to the God blessed practice Squad.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
But you know it feels you know what it feels.
You know, it feels like and I don't want to
be that petty or be that that shallow, but it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
Feels like you've already called somebody else for eating booger.

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
But it feels like it feels like another shot like
we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Does it feels like if you want to readeep into it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
I don't believe that to be true. I'm not saying
that's true, ladies. I'm just saying, doesn't it feel like
a proverbial Well, somebody who did make a move and
when is Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:59:58):
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Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
It's a great call, So.

Speaker 6 (02:00:11):
Shout out to Jesse Dury wanted to make sure we
got that out there before the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Jacoby Myers goes from Doctor the Raiders to Jacksonville for
a couple of draft picks and apparently, at least from
what we've gathered, unless it's a late announcement, I don't
know even if you can do that, I'm gonna be
on the outside looking him. Trade Deadline. Uh, the heavyweights
are going to talk a lot about this later on today.
Check them out. They're fun. It's a really good show.

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