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October 16, 2025 • 122 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to The Braillen Edwards Show with Shep Touchdown, Brailer
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
Okay, here we go at the middle of the week. Man,
it's gonna be the fastest two hours that you will
view here on YouTube and on Woodward Sports. It is
the Brayln Edwards Show. Haley is in for Ryan. It's
good to have Hailey in for a second time. This week.
Always spices things up here in studio and it's great
to have the staphole that is kool Aid who watched

(01:17):
the Pistons last night. I'm sure instead of watching baseball
playoffs and others, and you were a busy dude at
my top. You have to thought, No, no, you were.
You were the busiest dude of everybody. I mean, right
after the show, you go catch an early flick and
then you get home and you and I are texting
about baseball last night. Pretty interesting stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Fun day, man, Glad to be here with you guys.
Glad to have Haley in the booth. It's always a
pleasure to work with her. It's something fun today. And
then my right hand man is in the last day
of this week, wore he goes on South Carolina and
dives into the family as he should. But excited last night,
great game, we can talk about that. Saw a movie
that was very interesting. We could talk about that, but
let's start here, soth if that's okay with you. Yeah,

(02:00):
Like I am enamored with individuals that know how to
follow through. There's nothing nothing greater than someone chef that
says this is what I'm gonna do and then that
person exactly does that? Do you kind of agree on that?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I do.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Like we were talking about not honestly and true but
just doing what you say you will do. A friend
of mine so bad which way, who is a Grammy
nominated artist, started his journey football years ago, transitioned into
rap and hip hop music and he and his family
have been doing it for a while now, doing at
a high level. Everything they do is dope, the color collapse,

(02:35):
the things that they do, how they even how they
present the music, their videos, that they take you on
a visually stimulating journey. Well, got a chance to meet
him two years a well, last year at Calvin Johnson's
Calvin Johnson's camp, so we got a chance to talk
talk shop, talk football, talk music, just talk life, talk kids.

(02:57):
Fast forward to earlier this year. I noticed that he
was doing a collad with Reebok and he was doing
his own shoot, his first shoot with Reebox. So I
sent him a little DM. I said, hey man, congrats,
congrats on that you work hard. You and your family
deserve it. May God continue to bless you shep. He responded,
what are your side? What are you and your lady side?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I'm like, that's not the reason you reached out.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
That's not the reason at all. I reached out legitimate
because he had good energy and he was great during
the camp and he was fun to talk to, so
synthesizes it. Didn't even think anything of it. Didn't think
anything more of it until got a package today. Didn't
recognize the name because it didn't say Reebok, didn't say
Tobay anyway. What it said was something I didn't recognize.
I open it up and shep. I love when people

(03:47):
followed through. Wow, I introduced you to the Reeboko wave.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Let me get this box out of the way.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Was his middle name? Like, oh wow, not only didn't
you say that one pair?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Oh that's that is really tight.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
He's fine, right, you know it's just a little just
a little something my guy sent me.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Don't forget that too.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Right, it's a rebound bag as well. It comes with
the bag is super dope.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Let me see, Oh man, that is sweet dope bag.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Yeah, I got the check Woo on the man.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I love that he's branded his own name. That is
the name of the shoe. It is the Chuck Woo.
It is not something crazy.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
What will you use that bag for everything?

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Travel?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah? For travel? Yeah, it's a good size, you know what,
it's a perfect sighte of like a weekend night bag.
You know what I mean. You don't need a full
samsunnite some type of luggage.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
You use something like that and it's perfect for it.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
So you know, I just had to show my boys
and love. Man. I love people to follow him through
it and ain't even expect him to or ask him to.
Literally was calling him to show him some love, and
he responded in kind and sent these. I do a
video at the uh, you know, one of those revealed videos,
hey and kool A. I do one of those at
the house later on and send that and post that
on my social so.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Uh, you appreciate you. Did you pick the color?

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, it's one color.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
It's one color.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
It's a mint colorway. It's the only color they have
in this shoe for right now. And this is it?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
What are we wearing the mint color shoes with?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Help me with that?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Mince like the color right now?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Like?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So probably mint. Mint's a huge popular color right now.
Probably a hoodie, probably some type of dog and suit.
There's a bunch of different companies that make that. Maybe
get some fashion advice over there from Haley because she
always comes in. That's the reason I part, Hey, what
would you wear with.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
You?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Got you got the mint color. Okay, they go with blue,
they go with beige, the black.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
You can do all the earth tones true, actually definitely
down into the earth tone. They're so cute.

Speaker 8 (05:52):
Min Yeah, you can wear with anything like the dum
cell combo. For me, I love mint and pink.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
And I can't say that I own anything pink, but
I got it. You know that's cool.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, I can see it with tan beige.

Speaker 8 (06:10):
They're sweet though.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Yeah, those are those are.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Like the bag.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I appreciate. The bag is fire. I'm not gonna lie
like the bag right now, but is the thing I'm
most excited about.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's a little extra.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
So I think the shoes. You know, Once I looked
at oh Man, he said, the shoes is dope. What's
this bag about? I don't get so now I appreciate you, Toby.
That's dope, man. In the words of kool aid, that's fire.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's that's really good.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Speaking of fire, I know it's the Halloween season, are
you guys, Halloween moviegoers, watchers, et cetera, or chef has
passed you by?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know, I love scary movies. Okay, okay, so I
don't want to categorize Halloween only with scary.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Movies, Okay, because it's not You're absolutely right, you're around.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, but I like, I really enjoy scary movies, and
I usually watch them with my daughter because she loves
scary movies too.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I saw a movie last night. It's a very unique movie.
Movie is called good Boy all right. That's about a dog.
It's a scary movie through the lens of the dog.
So the dog is the main character.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I've heard of this.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Obviously, the owner of the master's talking and some other
conversation by humans, but the dog is in first person camera,
first person view, and it's the main character. And I'm
not gonna lie. They did a really, really, really good
job with this movie. Now it's something. It's also some
some bs in it, but every movie has a level
of that. I think it did a really good job.
I don't want to tell too much of the movie

(07:40):
because I don't want to be like my mom. Yeah mom,
I'm talking about you. I'll just read you what it
is and then we can go from there. A loyal
dog moves to a royal family home with his owner,
only to discover supernatural forces lurking in the shadows as
dark entities threatened his human companion, the brave pup must
fight to protect the one he loves the most. I'm

(08:02):
telling you, this movie was very interesting, very intriguing, and
it's only about an hour and twenty five minutes, so
you don't have to waste a ton of time figuring
out if the movie is gonna be good or are
you wasting your money one hundred and twenty five. I mean,
he's an hour and twenty five in and out. I
think it was very, very, very well done, and it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
What emotion did it create? Did it stir intense?

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Like it's an intense movie, because the whole time you
just wonder because you know how people care about dogs,
and it's sad, sad that people care more about dogs
than they do other humans. But when you watch this movie,
the whole time, you're just you're praying and you're hoping
nothing comes. No harm comes to this dog. Like you're
praying nothing comes to him. So every little move, every
little thing, the dog responds to every like when the

(08:47):
lights go out, Oh no, what happened to the dog?
The hell with the owner? At this point? What happened
to the dog? So I'll stop now before I give
something away. But it was very interesting, very well done.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
You like going to the still, Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
I enjoy the experience, man like, it's nothing like going
to see F one came out. I think Maverick was
the first movie. Then I said, I think the movies
might be back. When Top Gun Maverick came out, I
was on the edge of my seats. The popcorn tastes
a little bit better. The nachos taste a little bit better.
And yes, I have both because the movies two and
a half hours long.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
You have nachos at the movie theater. That's interesting.

Speaker 8 (09:26):
You bring your own food to the movie theater My own.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Food, Nah, because I like to eat food at home,
like so at the at the at the movies. Nachos
is about the sloppiest or the most type of food
food is at home, Hamburger's wings all that. You're you
bring your own food?

Speaker 8 (09:45):
You yeah, because they hype up the prices.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
You like about that?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Are you talking snacks?

Speaker 5 (09:51):
You're talking food and.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Food overall both?

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Oh wow, the snacks, the snacks I get.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
Do you ever watch those deos where they'll try and
bring in like a whole pizza or a whole.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Please explain.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
Oh no, it's he's guilty. You gotta explain this, not.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
What I'm personally. I'm on a budget. The movie theater
they rack up those prices like crazy, just like the airport.
And that's why, same with the airport, I won't bring
like a whole meal, but definitely on the snacks and
then movie theater.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, like, well, snacks.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I don't have a problem with when you say a
whole meal. I'm picturing you in a tupperware.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
I think a little fast food moment. Just throw it
in the hoodie.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
And then you're good.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I think it might be a little much.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I mean I don't eat.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I would eat before. You don't eat the car.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I can't eat the car.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're go on a long trip. You're not eating in
the car. You're not grabbing something and eating while you're driving.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
No, I'll eat and drive like I'm gonna before I
get in the car. Like if i'm driving, I'll smashed
before I get in the car. And if I'm not driving,
I'm gonna smash before.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I get it. Throughout three hours into a road trip,
you and I go do a game together. Three hours
You're not eating at.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
All, not a meal, not because I can't enjoy it.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
I'm more special about stopping halfway and then going to
a fast food plaz I'm.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
A creature of habit like. When it comes to a meal,
like I legitimately have to whether it's cooked at home,
whether it's DoorDash, whether I went and picked it up
and brought it back home, whether somebody bought it over.
I have to sit it down in front of me.
I have to figure out what I'm going to watch.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I see you eat salads here on a regular basis.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
That's different.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Standing up salad is different.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
It's salad, and it's you're trying to put something. I
need to get one now. I haven't eaten a day
but one of them. But it's something about sitting in
front of a TV, eating and watching something, having something
down in at the same time.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I want to get from A to B man, so
I'm eating while I'm driving, and if I'm going on
a long road trip, I need something to drink and
something to munch on.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Are you enjoying that food?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Are you just eating? I'm enjoying getting it from a
to be is what I'm enjoying. I hear you look, man.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
I remember one time I was running late. I went
and got some McDonald's for lunch, and I was at
the light and I was tearing down. Sometimes those squaws
are just right. I was tearing down right.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
And sometime you look out, somebody caught you.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
Somebody was right next door, right next to me, both
of them, they were looking just cracking up.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
My man had the phone. I was like, bro, like,
did you record this?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Saying?

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Noves just messing with you.

Speaker 9 (12:23):
But sometimes sometimes the fast food is just writing, especially
when you're on the move.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
The only time I eat fast in the car is
back back in my days before I was back in
the gym and trying to eat healthy, trying to eat
before you get home, so nobody knows the bs that
you ate. Yeah, like that now, then I would, because
it's kind of like what what what McDonald's mean?

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Why are you talking about me?

Speaker 7 (12:45):
Like?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
What's up with this fry box that you have on
your past? Shut.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
As I've gotten older, I feel the need to at
least be able to view somebody making my food, just
because of some of the things that have been said,
uh and alleged, just alleged from what I can tell,
that's good. I have not enjoyed. I can't think the
last time I went to a movie. Maybe it was
a couple of years ago. I went to visit my
daughter in these Lancings. She wanted to go see a

(13:09):
scary movie, so we went. The experience was brutal because
I think people are just flat out rude. Man.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
I think they're just rude. I think they're routed at
the gym.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think they're routed in the theaters. These guys sitting
next and they're talking the entire time. I mean, luckily
nobody was around us, so we were able to get
up and move.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
But you know, if you say, hey man, do you
mind keeping it down? You're the bad guy, right. You
can't even today, I say that.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
All the time to the gym. Quite honestly, Hey man,
I can hear your conversation. I don't want to hear
your conversation. If I can hear your conversation over Metallica,
that's a problem. Right. So but then it's they're looking
at you, you know, like you've got lobsters crawling out of yours.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Oh my god, I can't.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Believe you would have the goal to say that, Well,
there's all these signs that say no talking on yourself
and go up in the lobby. Right, It's the same
thing in the theater. I mean, people are talking and
they're they're not whisper. It's het brailing. It's you know, brailin.
I think, you know what's gonna happen here is that
guy's gonna jump out of the box and he's gonna
stab her right there. That's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
So I said, enough of this. I just can't do it.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's funny you say that.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
Like.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
So yesterday I went to the movies with me and Miley,
Brittany's daughter. We went to see the movie. She recommended it.
I said, fine, you recommend it, I'll take you. We'll go.
We went. We get to the movie. We're sit in
the back like ship. There's legitimately six people in the theater. Yeah,
theater holds about this a smaller theater. Theater holds about
I don't know, that's seventy five. There's right six people

(14:34):
in here. Okay, So we coming into our seats, first
sit down. Another couple comes to the seats. They sit
one in between empty space next to all these seats.
And I know that you have to pay online. I
know that you have to recommend the seat you want,
but you know at some point that this theater is
going this is it?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Like this is it fast forward. I'm a talker, I am,
it is what it is. This is why I have
this microphone. This is why I do this job. So
maybe I was talking a little bit too much yesterday.
Fifty two minutes into the movie. Fifty two minutes into
the movie, this lady leans over to the right and
she said, excuse me, cause you keep it down. Like

(15:13):
there wasn't a whisper, There wasn't the first time, kind
of like a warning. There wasn't like a polite hey,
you know, can you keep it down or just like
a move because it's an empty theater. She was loud.
But before I could even engage and say, all right,
I apologize, We'll keep it down because I was talking
a little bit. The way in which she asked if
she got past the point where I was going to

(15:33):
be polite, she got past that point, like she stood
up daring. There she's talking. I'm like, first of all,
you a little too loud, which is ironic because I
was talking yesterday. But I told her, I said, keep
it down. She perceives say louder. You're the one talking.
This is her. She's getting loud with me. Shop.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yea.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
So now I'm in a situation where I'm all right,
I'm on this date my girl's daughter. I don't want
to Yeah, I don't want to be disrespectful in any way.
Gotta protect the situation. I said, ma'am, I'm only talking
to it. Man, I talk to your husband, not you.
So then neither of them saying thing the rest of
the time. He's there the whole time, minds you says nothing. Shop.
He leaned over. Once he looked, he said, all hell nah,

(16:14):
and he went back to watching the movie. I think
he saw the size and it was like, I'm out match. Yeah,
then proceed So the movie's over, I mean, excuse me,
So that happens. They calmed down. We calmed down. We
watched the rest of the movie, and I talked a
little bit, but maybe not as loud the rest of
the movie. Fast forward, it's over. We walked down, We're
going out. She comes to the ledge. She waited, She

(16:37):
clearly waited, gets to the ledge and prosists, ya, you
don't want to see me talk loud because I told
her that y'all was like, you're the ones being loud.
She was like, you don't want to see me loud
the whole time. I haven't seen her husband. I still
haven't seen her husband. Fast forward, go out, tell Moley
and use the restroom. Go use the restroom. I come back.
I look over at customer service. She's legitimately talking to

(17:00):
customer service guys head off about what happened in the theater,
trying to get free tickets, kind of get free tickets.
So what I will say is I may have been talking,
but ma'am, I think I enhanced your ticket experience because one,
tickets on Tuesday are five dollars, so pipe down and relax.
But two, you got free tickets. You can go see
whatever you want to see next time.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, there's six people in the theater.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
It's gonna If.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
It's bothering you that much, it's easy to look.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I don't want to no offense to people, but I
don't want to sit If there's only six others in
the theater, I don't want to sit close to anybody anywhere,
So I would like to move around a little bit.
I'd probably move someplace else, whether they're prepaid or not,
what difference does it make, Right, we sit someplace where
you can spread out, where you can whisper a little bit.
I just think in the movie theater, I mean, rent

(17:45):
the movie at home. If you if you're going to
talk a lot, you know what I mean, You're supposed
to enjoy that experience. I thought part of the experience
at a movie theater is to watch it on the
big screen and have the complete attention for some people.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Being able to talk about was going on. All right, cool,
so you saw what do you think? What do you
think is about that?

Speaker 5 (18:03):
I get that, I get that.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
But but if she's close to.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
You, you go ahead and move on.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
She just moved you know.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
It's not that it's not that big of a deal.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
It's one of those I was just gonna say real quick.
For some people it can decide relationships. I'm salty in
the chat said, if my girl ain't sneaking in candy
and snacks on the movie, she is not the one.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
They don't check you anyway, do they.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
At the theater anymore?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
For the cost of popcorn and the cost of that's.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Why you gotta go on Tuesday. Tuesdays is it's it's
the chill day.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Hey day you go on Tuesday than that? Now, okay,
it's haircut Thursdays.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's haircut Thursdays and a movie Tuesday, five dollar tickets.
And also if you're loyal to you remember which I am,
it's free popum graphic.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
Bro, We're gonna have to make the graphic with like
what Brailing does these day, So everybody we.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Know on Tuesdays, we know Wednesday show starts with a
Brailer movie, and we know Thursday starts with a Brailean
haircut and beard trim. That's what's most important.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
I felt like she was Brian Branch in this situation. Okay,
because yes, Jujus Smith Schuster did those things, and he taunted,
he did all that. But it was a setup because yes,
I was talking in the movie. Yes I was a
little bit loud, and you know I Polsiz for that,
but she did not allow me to be polite, so

(19:27):
she punched me without me being.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
The customer service agent.

Speaker 9 (19:30):
Was the referee was just playing between the US.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
I was just.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
The same referee who, according to Dan Campbell, did get buzzed.
And I don't mean buzzed in any way of alcohol,
weed or anything like that. I mean buzzed by New
York to say, take a look at the Jared Goff touchdown.
We will talk about that. This is a problem the
NFL is gonna have to deal with. He played for

(19:58):
eight years in that league and it's his league.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
We talked about this yesterday.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know I want to, but we didn't know at
the time that Dan Campbell told everybody. I mean he's
told He said it this morning on their flagship listen
the or was it this morning or yesterday morning, whatever
the case. He has said the league he was told
by one of the officials. The league intervened. That's a
serious problem. We will get to that after this. If

(20:27):
you have a serious problem, you want to make sure
you get Vin Johnson from Ben Johnson.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I'm gonna tell you this. You might stop stealing my transitions. Okay,
you're getting too good. It's still in my transitions. And
I'm trying to talk about the corporations, the government, and
even your insurance company, and how they'll do whatever it
takes to minimize their aliability. But you don't want them
to minimize that. You want them not to withhold your conversations.
So what you do is you contact the fighter, and
that's been Johnson. You make sure he's the first call

(20:52):
whenever you're going through any situation, any matter. Let him
fight for you. He will get to the bottom line.
Don't waste time with other attorneys. Don't waste time with
other practices, other firms. Just don't waste time. You've got
the guy. You got the guy that's proved. His track
record speaks for it. So he's the fighter. Like who
names this the fighter? If they're not down to fight,
he's down the fights. Let him fight for you. Vinfights

(21:13):
dot Com.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
All right, big deal coming up here and that is,
of course, Michigan and Michigan State getting ready to tangle
against one another in East Lansing. It will take place
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Speaker 2 (26:49):
Okay, I've said this for a long time about about
the Lions. I think there is a I think they
are cursed. Is probably a strong one, all right. The
Bobby Lane curse of nineteen fifty eight, I believe it
is or fifty nine.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
I forget exactly which year, but.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Fifty eight because they won in fifty seven, right, he
got fifty eight?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, they played. He played the following year, and then
they traded into Pittsburgh for and Tobin wrote took over.
Either way, curse might be a little strong, but you
have to admit there are a number of things that
have hit the Detroit Lions that are rather unique to
anybody else in the National Football League. Whether it be

(27:31):
somebody dying, Chuck Hughes dying on the field of play, Okay,
Eric Andlasek God rest his soul on his front yard,
getting hit by a truck, Mike Uttley, Reggie Brown.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
A week could go on.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
There's a number of things that have taken place in
that regard.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
And then there's a lot of things that aren't even
in morbid that have been taking.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Place aimend to that. I think Sunday night was another
at least paragraph in a chapter of being cursed, and
that was on the very first drive. People know about
it by now. Jared Goff under center quickly leaves gets
a pass when David Montgomery catches it like a pineapple
scores the touchdown. Takes an extended period of time for

(28:13):
them to throw the flag and realize, well, that was
an illegal motion call against Detroit. Come to find out,
Dan Campbell was told by a member of the officiating
crew that New York buzzed in and interfered with that call.

(28:34):
It wasn't going to be called unless New York was involved.
Here's what he told the flagship station in Detroit after
hearing that news.

Speaker 13 (28:44):
I want to ask you one. I want to go
back to it. I don't want to harp on, just
like we had talked about earlier. But when we asked you,
you know, did that call come from New York about
overturning the golf touchdown? Are you guys inquiring as to
why you were told that or in acquiring as to
what happened in that situation? Why they went back a
minute and a half later and through the flag.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, we asked on all of that.

Speaker 14 (29:10):
We asked on all of it, and I can't tell
you any of that.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
But it was an official that told you it came
from New York. Yeah, okay, Yeah, Obviously it's raised a
lot of questions and concerns from the fans.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
I know you guys probably have a lot of those.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Two.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, really good stuff there and our thanks to the
Lion's flagship station in Detroit, and thanks to kool Aid
for putting it in there. This is he sounds downtrodden
and rarely do you hear Dan Campbell like that. I
am not claiming that that was the difference in the game.
I Am not going to sit here and tell you
you see this is what they lost by subtract that. No,

(29:52):
that's not how it works in football. You know that
better than anybody. Okay, there is a different feel to
things when they when certain events take place. But I
will say this, the National Football League is bordering on
a credibility problem.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
If this is this.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Is interference and it's not supposed to happen, and whether
they have recognized it or not, they must be under
a frickin' Rock if they don't recognize that.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
The Kansas City Chiefs involved in all this.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
When you have a university in this country doing a
study on how often Kansas City gets flagged compared to
everybody else, you should recognize that you've got a problem
with this team and there's a credibility problem with this.
The National Football League needs to issue some type of statement,
and God bless a reporter who should be out there

(30:43):
asking Roger Goodell and those in charge about why this
something something like this would happen.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, the university of the University of Texas o pass.
So look, I'm not gonna raise my voice staying and
I did that yesterday about the same matter. But I
will say and mom, I apologize. This is bullshit and
I said yesterday. I said this yesterday. This is interfer rents.
If the referee that you have assigned to be the
white hat, if you've assigned this referee to be the
white hat, and he has his crew, if they can't

(31:11):
figure it out, then that's negligence on that part. And
that's something that gets discussed after the game. That's when
they grade out the games and where they were wrong
and where this and that. That's where you great on
and say, hey, you missed that touchdown earlier. It should
have been this, It should have been an illegal motion.
You should have thrown the flag. You don't call into
the game. You don't call into the game interference. Hey,
you might want to check this, basically saying throw the

(31:33):
flag on that play? Like, what are we doing? What
are we doing about the Kansas City What is it
about the Kansas City Chiefers? You have to keep doing
this for them. They've already won their Super Bowls. You
know who's trying to win a Super Bowl. It's the
Detroit Lions, and they're trying to win it the right way.
But here you guys come once again knocking the Lions down,
coming up with these random mass rules, just like you

(31:53):
did against the Seattle Seahawks on the goal line, just
like you did against Atlanta Falcons on the goal line,
Just like you did against Calvin Johnson and the Chicago Bears.
Catch When does it stop? Oh my bad, here's Taylor
Decker and skipper, here's a freaking pedigrew, Like when does
it stop.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
At this Jay Brown fortle zone?

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Because at some point, like if the shoes on the
other if it's a different team. Do they call in
against that team? Because now that's the question in Detroit.
Do they call in if it's Kansas City Chiefs versus
the Eagles? Do they call in on the Eagles behalf?
But hey, you might want to check that and take
a touchdown away from the Eagles? Do they do it?
If it's Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills, do you
take a touchdown away from him?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
No?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
But it always seemed like Detroy catches the brunt or
what if the NFL in that game wants to do
at the end of the day, calming it back down,
you cannot interfere in games you pay referees and might
have add well, I look at what these refs make,
especially the ones that wear the white hat. Shoot, I
might lead this show and go do that. Maybe I'd
be a little bit more competent than those guys, like
you pay them to do the job. If they don't

(32:53):
get it. Right after the game, when you go over
the tape, you look you're great me and you say
you miss this, you get docked. And when you get
docked in this business, it's the difference between you maybe
reffing the Super Bowl or your team coming back next
year and figuring it out because how bad your ranking was.
This is bs NFL. It has to stop thinking there's
no room for this in the league. This is this

(33:14):
is blatant interference.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Think about the credibility issue the NBA had when they
found out about Tim Donny Okay, when that opened, I
remember saying at the time, that opened Pandora's box, not
just for NBA officials, but for all officials. When you
see things like this, you can't help but at least

(33:36):
have it creep into your mind. I'm not saying one
of them was guilty of such an action. I'm just
saying that's what leads to speculation when you allow things
like this to go unfettered, when you allow things like
this to go unchecked, and when you allow things to
do like this to happen without an explanation to a
fan base. And it's not the Lions fan base. I'm

(33:58):
talking about football, the football fan base. Everybody's talking about this,
and rightfully so. This is not whiny Detroit, Detroit versus everybody.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
This is what you did to us. Everybody's got those
tea shirts.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
I just became a Detroit Lions fan five years ago.
So This isn't about the Detroit Lions. This is about
what the rules are.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Kool A.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
You spades player, you play spades, you know. I'm sure
you play card games, Kaylee as well. Uh can somebody
on the side, can somebody tell you that, hey man,
you missed that renig. Hey you may want to go
look at that last book they renig. You can't do that.
It's up to those individuals in the game to figure
it out.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
You got to catch me renigging on, and I know
I should.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
I'm just saying, you know, every once in a while,
you know, bleep happens. No, But also what this leads
to is now the NFL feels like they owe the
Lions one. So now they're gonna screw the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers this upcoming game because they owe the Lions one.
I don't want it to be so bad and reughing
to where now there's ioe, You's, well, we played the Lions,
so when they play the Bucks, let's make sure we

(34:58):
don't see a couple of players. Let's make sure we
call players to keep them in a game, because that's
what is borderlining on. Because you owe the Detroit Lions,
because you definitely owe us. And I don't want the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers to have to lose out because of
what you guys did in New York.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
This is bee Well. They owe everybody an explanation first
and foremost, and I mean anybody who's a football fan.
They owe everybody an explanation. The other thing that you
have to admit is that we feel like Detroit is
a little bit taken advantage of. They're going to want
to know if anybody else, like you can look back

(35:32):
at all the film. That's what somebody is doing today,
probably all week long, look back all the film. Where
else has this been noted? Tom Brady did it and
there was no flag, So on top of that, you
know all this stuff. But they owe us one, no,
because they owe you more than one. But they owe
the National Football League fans some type of explanation to

(35:54):
keep their credibility.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
That's as important as anything else.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Don't you think One of the things that the NFL
has done very a very very very good job at
over the years is the brand keeps growing. The brand
keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. There's more and
more money around it. But I'm telling you like this.
If you get to the point where you're continually only
lobby lobbying for this one squad, you will get fan
bases that tune out. You will get people that tune out.
You will start to lose a lot of that profit margin.

(36:19):
Not a lot, but you'll lose some profit margin. And
that was that's how you affect individuals like that. It's
the pockets like this isn't a good brand of football,
you know, it's the gambling started a lot of questions
when it open Pandora's box. With the gambling. You started
seeing plays and you're like, WHOA. I remember watching the game.
It was the New York Giants versus Washington Commanders. It

(36:39):
was a Monday night football game, and you legitimately had
a wide receiver like he legitimately is talking to the
ref the whole player. I want to say. It was
Johann Dotson who now plays for the Eagles. He said, ref,
of my own ref, of my own Ref's like, sir,
you're on, all right, appreciate it. Proceeds to throw a
flag when the play snap said he wasn't on. I
watched this man ask you for a time on National TV,

(37:01):
and you turned the blind eye. You insert gambling. You
started getting questions greed. Now it has nothing to do
with gambling. This is just egregiously. You are trying to
make sure that the Kansas City Chiefs get to where
they need to be. It would suck if they were
two and four. I'm gonna disagree with sp because sheps.
You know he's smoothing. He says, well, you know, the
Lions still have to win the game. It's the early game, bs,
because it's all about momentum. You start seven and zero

(37:22):
in Arrowhead, much like we did two years ago. It's
a different energy, it's a different press, it's a different pace.
You stole seven points from the Detroit Lions two days ago.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
The thing that baffles me is the goal that the
National Football League has to ask for accountability from players
on and off the field, in season and out of season.
They want accountability from the players. They want accountability from owners.
Remember Jerry Jones flipping people off. They want accountability from coaches.

(37:53):
Where's the accountability from the league office? Where's the accountability
for the referees. Don't give me this high pool reporter.
I get to talk to you as far as I'm
concerned and I've said this for years. Referees should be
available to all members of the media for a certain
a period of time to ask about certain questions.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Umpires, they'll say thing there it should be.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
They don't want me in there. Hell no, they don't
want me in there, and they don't want a lot
of reporters in there who are willing to ask the
hard question professionally. But the hard question don't give me accountable.
I want accountability for this player because on his off
day he was on a boat drinking beers.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
But you're not going to.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Provide any accountability in a game that decided that could
decide home field advantage when all is said and done.
I know the lines didn't take advantage of it a
year ago, but it's still it's a this is their
livelihood when you're expecting referees. Referees used to complain about
what we have to pay, We have to work two jobs,
we don't.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Get paid enough money.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Guess what. You don't have to do that anymore, and
where's the accountability. It's nowhere to be found. It's shameful
and the National Football League needs to explain this and
do it quickly.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Three years ago, the NFL told us that Jamison Williams
will be suspended and the reason why he would be
suspended is because he violated the gambling protocol And then
they proceeded to say, and the reason why he violated
the game of the gaming protocol is because he was
on Detroit, He was on NFL property when he made
the bet. They went in further detail, to get further
and further, Well, you can't be this is what you

(39:27):
can bet on, this is what you can't bet on.
This is where you can bet, this is where you
can't bet. They did all that with Jamo, and it
got to the point where we thought it was still stupid.
But you know what, we all right, we accepted it,
We agreed on it. And then he came back and
you took two games off. Jamo's suspension made it four.
You had everything to say about that, correct? Where are
you now? Where you now? You don't have anything to
say about this one. Mum's the word. Mum is the

(39:48):
word right now.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Also, it's also really difficult.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
They got nothing to say.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
We want to and you and I have been in
kool aid, and Haley when she works, Ryan when he's
in there, even Ricky when he was in there before.
We try to give all the leagues and all the
players and coaches the benefit of the doubt. Okay, you
played at the highest level. You know it's not easy,
So you're not gonna say this guy sucks. You know
how much time all coaches put into it, So you're

(40:15):
not gonna say this guy's a bum.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
You can say he should be fired, but.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
You're not gonna you have too much respect for that.
We tried for time and time again against people in
the chat that hey, listen, there's no fix in. Do
you realize how many times how many people would have
to protect it, keep it secret in order for this
to actually happen, whether it be a frozen envelope for
Patrick Ewing or some type of call against a specific

(40:39):
team in a Super Bowl or any other big game.
We've tried to do that. They're making it. The National
Football League with stupidity like this and conflicting reports about
this and flat out lying about this, makes it really
hard for us to protect their shield and their words.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
I don't have to protect this, sue. I don't play
in that league anymore, and they don't do anything for
me outside of my New York Jets. Jay E t
s just just just uh this is true, and this
is true. But if I ask to go to Jets
game right now, they'll pay for my flight and pay
my ticket. So, like I said, j E ts just
just but you're basically telling us you can do whatever
you want. Like that's what the conversation was yesterday when

(41:20):
we were talking on the show and I said, Shell,
it feels like there was some It feels like they waited,
got a phone call, and then they decided to come back.
Like that's not football. That's not the football signed up
for it. That's not why I played. That's not why
I was excited to play in this league. I don't
know what that is. I don't know what it is
where somebody can call from York like, hey man, get
on that real quick. What are we doing? Like what
do you pay people for? You pay people because they're competent.

(41:43):
You pay people you put them in situations so that
they can handle the things that they're supposed to do.
If you missed a call, sir, that's on him. That's
not on New York. That's on the guy that you hired. Like,
that's not that's not the operating way. Of business, and
that's not how business should operate it.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
You should and people in the chat have great examples.
We brought up, you know, you brought up the Calvin catch.
I brought the kJ Wright who actually batted the ball
out of the ends.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
They still can't playing that Calvin catch. And that was
two thousand and that was two thousand and nine.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
They still still can't explain it right, and it will
still makes no How is that not a catch? But
Travis Kelcey's whose football touched the ground was a catch
on Sunday night? How does kJ Wright get away with that?
How do the Dallas Cowboys get away with Brandon pettigrew
and interfe It's clear, okay, And this again, we're not
looking at it from a lion's perspective. You're looking at

(42:31):
from a football fans perspective. You look at that and
you say, let's be honest with each other. Here, take
the fandom out of it, take your heart out of it.
Look at it like a football knowledgeable fan. You would
all say, those were situations where Detroit got totally screwed.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
And even when he explained some of these rules too,
and maybe that's more of a thing you guys, haven't
redo the rule book. You just need to redo the
rule book. You need to update because the rule book's
probably this stick with all things did you put into
nineteen twenty seven upgrade because you're not using half this.
I go back to that Atlanta Falcons game. It took
them twenty minutes to figure out what that call was.
And when he finally got the call, I'll do air

(43:07):
quotes when he got it right, they were like, well,
this rule was put in nineteen forty seven and we
really haven't had a situation to utilize it. Well, it
sounds like it should have stayed in nineteen forty seven. Yeah,
because it took you all that time to figure out.
I still don't understand what that rule was. By the way, me,
I played in the league for eight.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I think the big reason why Dan sounded so distraught
on that interview on the Flagship station.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Is because wins matter in this league.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
Well not just.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
That, but because he prides himself on knowing the rules,
and he prides himself on preparing his team because he
knows the rules and he doesn't expect them to know
all of them. Okay, players got a lot of stuff
on their mind, a lot of them a few years
ago didn't know how overtime worked. Okay, so that's okay,
that's why it's now explained by the referee before the

(43:54):
coin flip. But I think he takes a lot of
pride in that, and he thought he had it. He
thought he knew the rule. I guarantee you he looked
back in the rule book and read it over and
thought he put his team in a position to be
successful and worked on it all week long. This is
gonna work him and John Morton, this is gonna work.

(44:14):
We've got it all taken care of. You know, all
guys don't have to worry about a thing. What does
that do for Dan Campbell? A lot of his players
are like, what the hell's going on here? Same thing
with the skipper and the reporting to the referee.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Which he did, and as I know, and also too,
let's not even let's not gloss over the fact who's
the quarterback running it? Like Jared Goff is one of
the most rebeal quarterbacks that we've seen in the last
twenty five years. Like, he's not going to be unprepared
as it relates to this play. Jared Goff is not
gonna run this play exactly like it was laid out
by Dan Campbell, just because Dan Campbell said that I vetted.

(44:47):
I worked it out. Me and Johnny Mo we looked
at it. We vetted. Jared Goff is ten year quarterback. Now, no, no, no,
let me make sure i do my due diligence since
I'm a part of this place, since this affects my offenses,
this is my squad. Let me make sure that the
nuances are correct and make sure you just do a
little bit of research. They all walked into that game
knowing that this play was legal, knowing that this was
going to be the outcome. Hell Jack, I'm also mad

(45:09):
because he made a hell of a catch. He really lost.
Oh boy, it was a hell of a catch by him, But.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
That block and run over in the end zone.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
I actually went outside to have an adult break, if
we will, So I come back inside. I'm like, wait,
what what happened? What's all this deliberation. I didn't even
see the play live, And then when I saw the replay,
I was like, didn't see it thing either. Jared got
the boss, Okay, jerk off for her cooking jokes on me,
jokes on me, so they have to. This is a

(45:37):
situation though, but let's let's let's bring it back down.
Let's get out of Detroit, just the whole NFL. This
is a situation that the NFL has to get on
top of before Thursday, which is tomorrow, before Thursday Night football,
which is the start of the football week. You gotta
get this thing corrected. You got it. You have to
come out and make a comment. You got it. You
have to put something out there.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
You have to. And here's why, because.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Right the only thing you put out this set, excuse me,
is a middle finger.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
That's right to every fan out. But they know they're
not going to lose this. But still they should understand
they should read the temperature in the room. So there's
a couple of things. There were always asking coaches and
players for mea culpas. Brian Branch came out after the game.
I did something stupid. Okay, it's on me. He gets
a one game suspension. All right, there's your punishment. Dan

(46:24):
Campbell said at the podium, Look, that's not how we
do things. Okay. He takes blame for things, you know,
that's what great leaders do. Willing to do that, all right.
The other thing is one of the early times I
started working with you, we were talking about the preparation
it took for you to get ready for a game,
the playbook, the play call, what your responsibilities were on

(46:47):
every single play. You have a responsibility to your team
and to your fan base and to your the name
on the back of the jersey. I want to know
where that accountability is from the National Football League. I
want to know where their miakulpa is and I want
to know why they weren't prepared for a play like that,

(47:09):
knowing damn well that Dan Campbell and Jared Goff and
anybody else associated with the Lions went to the referees
before the game and said, just be on the lookout
for this. Okay, beyond the lookout for this, because if
you're truly prepared, if you're the referees and you know
that's coming, if you do know the rule and there's
a lot of rules to understand, and Goff does that,

(47:31):
the flag should come right.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
Away, especially when you've been screwed in a pass.

Speaker 9 (47:36):
I happened to believe that the Lions were very particular
about making.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Sure that absolutely, But I'm talking about from a referee
standpoint if the referee says, look, I know the rule book,
but I've always want to refresher. When I was calling
Tiger's baseball, I used to read the rule book every
single offseason, okay, front to back. If these referees say that,
you know they're prepared, so it's a double edged sword.

(48:01):
If you're not prepared, you need New York to buzz in.
Shame on you. You should not be working many more
games now if you if you are prepared like you say,
then you should have thrown the flag right away. There's
no reason, none whatsoever to have that gap from the
time he scored for the time you threw the flag.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Also, too, what's gonna happen And this was what the
NFL doesn't want you see what happened at the end
of the game with Brian Branch and Jujus Smith Houston.
That's going to be every team that the Kansas City
Chiefs plays against because they already hate the Chiefs, and
they hate the Chiefs because of the reps. They hate
the Chiefs because of these things like this isn't the
first time I remember watching the Jets versus the chief
two years ago and there was no penalties throw and
I remember Quinn Williams. They interviewed him after the game,

(48:40):
and quinnin Williams like, I just don't ever get it.
I just don't ever get it. And he wasn't talking
about how bad the Jets were, because they're horrible. He
was talking about the penalties. He was talking about the
lack the he was talking about the things that they're
allowed to get away with. This is two years ago.
There was zero penalties in that game. This isn't the
first game with the Kancite Chiefs have had zero penalties.
And it's not because they're a super disciplined team. Have
you ever take a look at their right tackles Jesus

(49:01):
Christ every single play. So it I don't know, except
I really don't know, because this is this is like
negligence and at all time it really is.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
It's not to rehash something and get people fired up
in the chat. That's not what we do on this show.
They may do it another shows. That's not what we're doing.
And yes somebody had put in the chat. He wasn't set.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
That's not the point.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
The point is the gap in which the flag was thrown,
and the point is that it was now revealed that
the referees told Dan Campbell specifically that New York buzzed
in and said that's a penalty. That's not how the
system works. So there's three choices there, the referees lying,

(49:46):
New York's lying, or Dan Campbell's lyne. Dan Campbell is
not the kind of guy who sits there and makes
crap up. He takes bullets for his team.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
You can hear him. He didn't even want to say
that it was a ref Like. That's the type of guy.
When you're listening to the conversation, he was like, he
was like so he yeah, Like he didn't even want
to say what it was. He really wanted to hold
that information because it's not the guy is. He's not
out here making excuses. He's not making excuses for the
play being illegal. I watched it, telling people break it

(50:17):
down on how they could have ran to play and
the play being successful. You didn't have to let Jared
Goff go under center. You could just have him in
the backfield, line up, then motion out and that would
have been a touchdown. We get that we're not necessarily
arguing that the rules are wrong, but we're arguing is
how they got to the rule. They interfered with the play,
they made at they made a judgment call, they called

(50:37):
the referees, Hey take a look at that. Or basically,
that's illegal. This is why boom boom boom. And now
they come back and it's illegal. That's not what their
job is in New York.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
It really is not the last thing I'd say about that,
and then we'll go to break and I want to
come back with with your top lions.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
The list has changed.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
The last thing I'd say about that is I wonder,
I'm kind of mad at myself that I didn't look
at any Kansas City media. I wonder if anybody has
asked Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, or anybody from Kansas City
about this situation.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Why would it.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Well, if if you're a national football writer, you have
every right to and actually there's a responsibility for which
you should do. So I'm not saying it should be
a beat writer for the Chiefs. Let it go, right,
I mean, move on. But if you're a National Football
League writer, should you not pick a website? Should you
not be interested enough to hear what Dan Campbell is

(51:33):
alleging and then get some type of response from not
just the NFL, but also Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
You got to be the right one because right now
the NFL is clearly protecting and you know, putting their
hat behind kencts.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
All the way.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
So it's which you mean?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (51:50):
And what do people don't do? They don't go after demand.
People don't go ahead. Last time I said, people don't
go after demant.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
So some brave soul, some Denzel Washington character may have
to do that. Let's see who they are in the media.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
And he's a character you better watch out in real life,
the real life consequences.

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Reveal, slow reveal with frailin every week, Braylan brings us
his top seven because you know the one seven that.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
He wore with the see now your stuff is coming
the one seven. So we use seven as the magic
number here each week. It varies because of how guys
can either move up or move down. It's Braylan's top
seven Lions and we go in descending order. So let's
take a look at number seven. Who is number seven

(59:14):
for you? So I went back and forth and actually
ascending order. My apologies.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
I feel like I want to change my number seven
and I think I'm on a flip flop five and four.
I know this sounds crazy. I was trying to give
some love to the big fellas up front. I was
trying to get some love to some defensive players. And
DJ Reader has been playing well up front for the
Detroit Lions. A lot of times when you talk about
the big fellas, you can't necessarily see the impact in stats.

(59:42):
You can't see the impact in numbers. So I was
watching film. He's taking on double teams. That's funny. He's
taking on double teams a lot this season. He's causing
a lot of situation, a lot of space where linebackers
now are one on one, whether it's Jack Campbell and Zealoney,
a lot of one on one situations because of that
dirty work that he's doing up front. It's going back
and forth. We he and Gibbs and I chose to

(01:00:03):
get a big fellow some love. So coming in number
seven is DJ Reader. Now, look, we're gonna need you
this week, big fella, and we will need you a
lot because last week it's not exactly what we want
to see. But this week, Baker Mayfield, see what you
can do. We'll put DJ Reader number seven. I'll stick
with it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I'm I'm glad you said that, because I don't think
defensive tackles in general get nearly enough love. It's very
similar to guards and centers on the offensive side.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
What they do though, is they are linebacker's best friends,
right Alex Angeloni and Jack Campbell are free to make
a lot of the plays that they make because of
the space taken up by DJ Reader, TYLERK Williams and
Ali McNeil. This week against Tampa, how great is that.
I don't know how much of a pass rush these

(01:00:50):
guys are going to be able to create, but they
will be able to collapse the pocket a little bit
better against Baker Mayfield, and I think that's going to
be a much underappreciated I want people to look at
these guys when they play much underappreciated situation for the Lions.
I think Alee McNeil back is a really big deal
for it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
For all of you out there, about Jamiir Gibbs, I'll
just say this now. He's not on the list. And
the reason why the list changes every two weeks, three weeks.
Whenever we do it, the list changes. You can move up,
you can move down if you look at what Jamiir
Gibbs is. I said it yesterday. If you drafted him
number one your fantasy, are you a happy camper right now?
If you draft him number one overall? The answer is no,
we expect him to be on pace for upwards of
eighteen hundred to nineteen hundred yards from scrimmage. Right now,

(01:01:30):
he's on pace for it just over fifteen hundred and
rushing yards. He's on pace to not crack well, just
crack a thousand, maybe like a thousand and ninety yards.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Well, if you're talking about fantasy football, it's about touchdowns
for him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Well, and he has four right when he has four,
which also are behind the pace that he was at
last year. So it's more so why he didn't make
the list this year. Coming in it's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
It's a good point of view.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
That's why AJ Brown pisses me off because.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
He's just the easy one to throw on and like
you do some homework, you're like, okay, well you know,
boom boom bom number six if you will, Now, this
guy actually could be higher, like he really really really
really could be higher. And actually I wanted to flip
him and golf, but I'll keep it the same for
the graphic. But but you don't know who the guy is.

(01:02:15):
Though that's true, you don't know who the guy is.
The guy is none other than your tight end Sam Loporta.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
He was really good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Sam laport has been the most consistent thing on the
offense for the Detroit Lions last four games. Not named
the quarterback and the right tackle, but he's been the
most consistent they've gotten him going early in games. He's
the only player that golf stays with the whole game.
Like he's making players in the first half, he's making
players in the second half. You saw the Cincinnati Bengals game,
two catches on the first drivet and then he also

(01:02:45):
had some big catches in the fourth quarter for that
the third quarter of that game as well last game
Kansas City Chiefs. You know, this guy's making players for
the Lions. He's starting to get back to two years
ago when he was one two best tight ends the
league in terms of numbers in the production that season.
He's getting back there. So Saanaporter comes in at number
six on Brailn's Top seven. Let's get number five.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Just real quick. It's really hard with the number of
weapons that the Lions have, don't you think to be
as as consistent at that position. When you've got Iman Ross,
Saint Brown, and you've got James and Williams, and you
use Jamior Gibbs and David Montgomery as an extension of
the run game out of the backfield with passes. It's
it's hard for a tight end to really kind of

(01:03:29):
break through almost, don't you think.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
But san Laport is finding a way because he's sixty yards,
he's sixty yards shy of Jamior giz rushing yards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
So he is he's number two among football like tight ends.
Only Trey McBride has more receiving yards than Sam Laport
at the tight end, and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
He's number two on the team in the yards reception
behind you know who, I'm Saint Brown. So San Laport
is doing. He's a consistent He's like very consistent what
the Detroit Lions are doing. He's become the stable piece,
that comfortability piece for Jared goff. I love it bringing
in number five, number four. There's his name, it's Jared
goff I. Golf has done nothing but be consistent this

(01:04:11):
whole season. The big thing for me turnovers. When you
think Jared goff It's turnovers. How is he doing with turnovers?
When you look at Welp, He's only got two intercepts
this year one fumble. It's got two incepts. One fumble
that's major for him. Uh two oh three two toes
last game, two fifty eight three toes game before that.
I mean, just look at his passer ratings one eighteen
one fifty three, one oh three, one fifty six one

(01:04:32):
twenty one hundred and obviously we remember one game Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Game and it leads the league in touchdown passes with fourteen.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
One hundred percent. So you could move him up higher
on this list, but I think this is fine for
where he is at.

Speaker 14 (01:04:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I think you're right. Seventy six percent completion percentage. Look
at you, number one in the national for now. Even
think about that, you're completing seventy six percent of your passes.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
That's unheard of, it really is. And this is not
a small sample size, Hey, preach brother.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
No, not at all. And this is what Jared Goffin's
been doing for the last three years. Prior Detroit Lions
number four, I'm around Saint bron I got him coming
in at number four on this list. Started out the
year high as a lates of touchdowns. He came out
with zero three to one to two. He's been donut
in the last two games. But it's little things he's doing.
In the last game, I was gonna dock him some

(01:05:24):
pay because when I used him dropping past, he dropped
two and they were big players. They were big, were
big downs for the Detroit Lions. But you know what,
not everybody can be perfect, even Larry Fitzgerald, who had
the best hands ever, even him, has dropped a pass
or two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
More tackles drops though more tackles.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
More tackles than drops Larry Fitzgerald, look him up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
I'm around Saint Brown third in the in the National
Football League in first down catches.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
That's that's a statistic that I'm starting to monitor a
lot more since I've begun working with you, because we
all get caught up in yards and touchdowns, and I
know it's important, don't get me wrong, but first down catches.
He's the guy everybody expects is gonna get it. But
guess what he does get it, and it's showing by
moving the chains. Only Puka Nakua and Jackson Smith and

(01:06:12):
Jigba have more first down rocks than i'mon Ross Saint Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Now when I don't like about this situation, and we'll
talk more about this. When the Lions played two. The
two the two teams they lost to are the two
playoff teams that they played against. They lost both times.
I'm a righty had forty five against Green Bay. I'm right,
have forty five against the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't care.
What's going on. Find fourteen, Get fourteen the ball. Don't
tell me he's the best wide receiver in the league.

(01:06:36):
Don't tell me he's one of the best players in
the league. And you can't find him in the biggest games.
You lost to Green Bay, he had forty five yards.
You lost to Kansas City, he had forty five yards.
I'm not saying that's the only thing to point to.
But if walls like the Duck, quacks like Duck, then
this is dug. Get this man in the ball, regardless
of the jobs. Who cares.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
But what do you mean they're against the playoff teams.
I'm confused at that there are. They're not in the
playoffs yet.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
What I'm saying is teams that have winning records that
they played so far the seon. I'm sorry, Yes, Green
Bay is going to be a playoff team. They lost
to them. The Kansas City Chiefs are leaning towards being
a playoff team right now. They lost to them, so
I'm not a fan of that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Okay, I get it. I mean Baltimore could be a
playoff team.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Baltimore was one in five ship yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
But not a great division. Some people think Chicago could
be a playoff team, and he tore the Bears apart.
Your point is well taken, and it's it's right on
the money. I think you know sometimes since you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Bring up Chicago, Chicago had two backup DB's that day.
But I want going to go there.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
You went there right, I didn't go to backup dvs
if you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
If you want to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Pointing out that he had a hundred, like we're getting
off track. You point out that you had a yard,
I didn't mention then honey yards. You did, so since
you brought the honey yards, I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Said, he tore him apart. But if you if you,
but if you're going to do that, then you can
talk about Kansas City, Detroit was without If you're going
to talk about them.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Them losing to those teams.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
They're without their left tackle, they're without starting cornerback. I
don't want to get into that because I can do
that way, Why.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
To get into anything shep. I simply pointed out the
DB's and talking about who he was going against one
on one, talking about Alma Ross Brown. I didn't talk
about the Lions versus the Bears. I was simply talking
about amar Ross Brown Bergs.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
All I'm saying is you brought up the addition until
you did. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
You brought up the teams that are going to be
in the playoffs, right or or I have winning records.
Winning records is the way you phrased it. I'm saying,
if we're gonna look at Aman Ross Saint Brown, I
would like to see him look against Chicago's got a
winning record, so we could we could bring that up too.
But your points valid, I mean your points a valid
one were you're going up against backup DB's, Okay, so
I'll grant you that. I'm just talking about from a

(01:08:38):
winning record. Standpoint all right?

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Number three, number three put up there on the board.
It's the big guy. Aden Hutchinson ninety two point three
is his gradest so far on Pro Football Focus. He's
third in the league in sacks, first and forced fumbles,
and second in hers all at his position. He is
getting to what we thought he was going to be
this year. We were getting to be hoped he would
be this year, and that's running for defensive MVP is

(01:09:00):
on pace for seventeen sacks and he's playing well. Now
I didn't say great because he played great. Is that
next step? Now? We know that's in there. We want
to see it. But right now he's playing well, and
I'm very excited where ninety seven is. He's a catalys
and the leader on that defense. He is the best
player on that defense. He has been this season. My
guy is figuring some things out. Ninety seven has been

(01:09:22):
that guy. You see that excitement, you see that energy
right now. He's been bringing that all season, especially since
Game one was over. So Aighten deserves to be three
on this list.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Is it surprising to you that he leads all defensive
ends in.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Sacks, not pass rushers, defensive ends.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
The three guys who are ahead of him in sacks
in the National Football League are all linebackers, right this
Denver's guy Benito Benito, Brian Burns Brian burn for the Giants.
And I forget who number two.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Is because he's right there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Young.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
It's not because look at those defensive lines, Like those
defensive lines as a whole, there's some dominant defense. This
is really good defensive line, some good players on that line.
I think those guys are just those guys are just
having some fun. They're benefiting because of it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Yes, especially the Ramsy. It's just such a man child,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
So he's like what, like, oh, what did the whole
conversation we're having about Derrick Henry? What what I told you?
That boy running up in there, he's not built like that. Yeah,
he's not like that. One on one Derrick Henry, he
had another chance is to run in there and see
what he could do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
He tried tiptoed to the left, and then drivers grass
him and slams.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
The oh you're talking about when your verse?

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
I'm sorry, Okay, at some point you got to at
some point you have to be six five, two forty
like at some point, like I get it, that's not
your cup of tea, and it doesn't have to be
like I'm not knocking for that not being a cup
of tea. It got you the Heisman, Uh, it's gotten
you two thousand dollars almost twice. So he's not his
cup of tea. At some point, though, you just gotta

(01:10:56):
put it out for your cup of tea. Like Dave
Montgomery in that same situation, like, look, whatever I get,
I get.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Right, whether it's Jared Verse or not, I gotta go
up against it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
And then you ran towards Jared Verse verse. Yeah, if
you don't go towards GERI versus're going against the defensive lineman.
And we'll see what it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
You'll see that again this weekend with Vidavea who you Love?
I Love It is an absolute beast inside former kid
out of Washington, and it's the staple of Tampa's defense.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Right number two, another absolute beast working his way up
the list, and now it likes it. It's so crazy
considering the viral video of me walking off when his
name was called a couple of years ago. Well, the
boy has done nothing but play. Every time you turn
on the film. Jack Campbell is getting to the quarterback now,
which we wanted him to do. Chef called that. He
said he wanted to see Jack get to the quarterback
check and also he's just all over the place. There

(01:11:43):
was a play in the game. Chew you bought it
up and immediately knew what you were talking about. Xavier Words.
You catch. Xavier Worthy catches the pass off the left side,
he's running right, puts his foot in the ground, turns around.
Xavier Berger runs for two. That's not me just saying
because he's fast. There's proof four to two at the combine.
When you see Xavier Worthy reverse and go this what

(01:12:05):
is it? What do you think is about to happen? Touchdown?
Not so fast? My friend Jack Campbell called him in stride.
I'm just saying number two. You know what, man, Jack Campbell,
and I'm starting to come all the way around on him.
Kool aid? What what do you have to say?

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
What do you have to off the death real quick?

Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
I'm gonna put the one shot on shut and we're
gonna have you walk to the desk for Jack Campbell
to reverse the order.

Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
So we got Jack Campbell number two.

Speaker 9 (01:12:32):
This is Braylan reversing course from Draft Night lit rock Man.

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
Put it to bad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
He is a badass. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
You know, I learned this world. I learned these two
words a long time ago. Locian throw and locian throw
a Spanish. I'm sorry sorry to big got Jack Campbell,
my my apologies, my brother. I stand firm on what
I felt that night, and stand firm on this conversation.
Now he's showing you that he could be a constant
in the defense. And it was last year. He made
a lot of tackles. He did the things. You didn't

(01:13:08):
hear his name a lot. But you're gonna turn on
film and you'll see one hundred and forty tackles. This year,
you're actually seeing the plays. This year, you're hearing the plays.
Like when you turn that film on, he jumps out
of the plays. Ninety seven is the only guy that's
jumping out. Forty six is jumping out as well. That's
what I wanted to see to believe. He's shown me that.
So shoot by all means he's number two on his list,

(01:13:30):
He's only number two.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
I love him. I think he's a badass. You know
who my favorite linebackers are, right. He's out for the season,
Fred Warner, And I'm really sad that he's out for
the season. Now, you know how much I respect your
former teammate, Bobby Wagner.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Bobby still going, He's one of my how many people
told him it was over.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
I don't know, but they're not waking up. He's truly
one of my favorite players of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
The Rams had him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
He's an absolute pro. He's second in the league right
now in total tackles. Jack Campbell has one more solo
tackle than Bobby Wagner. My point is, if you're in
the same conversation as Bobby Wagner, and I don't care
if Bobby Wagner's twenty five or thirty five, then you
know you're damn good at your job. Jack Campbell is

(01:14:10):
an absolute beast. He should be a captain on this
team for years to come because he's ready and he's
a smart player, fast player, big and strong player. Everything
you want in the lineback.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Tenthon tackles first and fun of recoveries first and stops
and ninety second. As it relates to what is this,
Oh miss tackles ninety second out of one hundred people,
miss tackles with two. I also want to point out
notice that Ayton Hutchins in his first force fumbles in
his position, Jack Campbell's first of force fumble in his position.

(01:14:45):
Somebody down there and Alan Park is putting an emphasis
on getting the ball out. Thank you. Kevin Shepard. Yeah,
thank you, Yes, thank you, because you're putting emphasis on
it and we're seeing it come to like and number one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
That's a great I'm so glad you brought that up.
That doesn't get talked about it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
That's not on accident. That's not on accident.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I know, but I'm saying it gets glossed over. We
look at certain stats, sacks, interceptions, the force fumbles. You know,
I don't know how many is enough, but the force
fumbles big deal at those two positions. I'm glad you
highlighted it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
Number one, speaking of a big deal, he's the biggest
deal for the Detroit Lions, and that she boy soon
love that he's number one. Notice I start with a
big fella and I end with a big fella. The
big fellas are getting in love today Pine, So he's
done it all. He's number one great tax excuse me,
he's a No. One great offensive lineman in the league
right now. I guess what Lad's dealing. How many pillow

(01:15:40):
does pen have? You think about three?

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
I would two. I was gonna say two.

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
Zero.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
How many saxes he allowed this year? You know what,
don't worry rhymes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
With zero one rush. I know there is one one
hit one quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
His one quarterback hit. His overall grade is in ninety four.
He's ninety six and pass pro. He's eighty nine and
run pro. They're still figuring that out. That's not all
on him. But the big fella is the constant on
that offensive line. I have seen Glasgow trying to figure
some things out. Taylor Decker hasn't played in giobonni Maneu.
He his Dan Skipper, the big guy on the right

(01:16:16):
side is the constant for them and he's what he's
done with. Tate Ratleics too. Got tip your hat to
the big fella. So that is Braylan seven. This week
Penay won Jack two, eight and three, Saint Brown for Golf, Laporta,
and even got some love for DJ Reader on the defensive.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Love it Mano. Good for you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
Wait to expand the horiz little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Instead of going with the obvious names that so many
people want to talk about. You're able to pick a
DJ Reader, Sam Laportera, Jack Campbell, Penney Sewell, I know
somebody in the chat Penney bettery number one. He was
number one. Okay, gotta take a quick time out, don't
forget wan't get through the mail bag. Right around three
fifty or so when we come back. I did want

(01:17:02):
to talk about a former coach saying that a lion
did not get what he deserved. A former NFL coach
said a lion did not get what he deserved in
lays it's not Wayne Fonts a little bit a little
bit later on why a guy who won a World
Series last year could win it again this year had

(01:17:22):
his one of his aces go a lot further than
Detroit's A's It's bothersome to a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
We'll get to all that.

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Speaker 5 (01:24:09):
According to kool Aid lost an icon.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Huh. It also was about that.

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The icon for Lady Game. Yeah, men's haircuts. The men
is Lady James. You like that transition. Yeah, it is
iconic when you come in here and you get your
haircut because it's very easily done.

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
You know why it's easy.

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First of all, you know Railin always talks about Planet
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your time and your effort, and the fact that people
here want to make sure your time is valuable.

Speaker 5 (01:25:06):
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out the door.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
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so many different reasons. It's wicked ass. Hey, now I
can now I can talk to you a little bit
about an icon who left us too soon. Tell the
people about it because I'm unfamiliar.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Di'angelo D'Angelo was a R and B neo sol singer
from the mid to late nineties. Early two thousand, Grammy
nominated Rolling Stones labeled him the seventy fifth greatest R
and B singer of all time. He's got nominations, he's
got awards. But you had to be in the air,
like it's just one of those things. You had to
be a part of. Everybody that knows remembers the risk

(01:25:47):
of video that he did on How Does It Feel?
But just a super talent chef, like one of those individuals.
You turn the music on, you listen to it, it's
just goodbyes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Whether it was the.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Remix of Cruising Smokey Robinson, would we talked about. He
did a remix, whether it's Brown Sugar, whether it's Send
It On, whether it's untitled, which is how do you
feel like? All these are like legendary songs and just
it's a good sound.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
Is a brown Sugar associated with the Rolling Stone the
brown Sugar?

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
No no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
But it's neo so would be where jazz intersects with
hip hop and R and B. That's kind of what
Neo so would be has that the easy, smooth feel,
but at the same time some gritty things going on
in the world of R and B dope artists. And
it just sucks that he dies the same year him
and Angie Stone were married, had a baby, have a daughter,

(01:26:36):
have a son. Excuse me, they have a son together.
Angie Stone died earlier this year, and now DiAngelo dies.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Just at a lot of big name people in twenty
twenty five. In the music where we were talking about
Ozzy Osbourne when he passed in an hour, we talked
about D'Angelo so very influential in people's lives and.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
The battle like a long ways battle with cancer. Make
sure you check on your level and make sure you
if go get checked out, do all the things I
was talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Death.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
The other day friend of mine heart attacked the whole
nine yards. Make sure your people go get checked up,
Go do all the things healthwise that you're supposed to
be doing. I've been procrastinating on a man's exam that
I'm not too eager to have. But in wake up
what's going on? I am going to go get myself
checked out because I don't want something that can be
taken care of not be procrastinate and turn into something more.

(01:27:26):
So I urge you to go. And if it's not you,
then get your pops, your mom, your dad, your brothers,
your sisters, Hey, go do this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:35):
And if it's not for you, to do it for
somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
So I mean that's the right there with the transition guitar.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Really good advice. Sorry, sorry about that for the loss
for the people who liked him. So you know that
we were talking earlier about the NFL and the conduct
that they have.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
I want to look a wrestled with that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
I had to calm down a little bit. I still
it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
It was to beat you up talk about Ama, Wrestley
Brown and the DB's from the Bears.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
That's all right, that's a good thing, man. I love
the emotion. I want to read something to you real quick,
and then I want to get into why somebody feels
like Brian Branch should have gotten more than a game suspension.
This is directly from the NFL. The Personal Conduct Policy
opens with this statement. You're ready. It is a privilege
to be part of the National Football League. Everyone who

(01:28:25):
is part of the league must refrain from conduct detrimental
to the integrity of and public confidence in the NFL.
Conduct by anyone in the league that is illegal, violent, dangerous,
or irresponsible. There you go. That's what I was wondering.

(01:28:46):
That's where I was.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
That's where I was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
You're one hundred percent right. That's exactly where my mind
went when I read that statement. That's what I'm referring to,
including the refs detrimental. If you're talking about public confidence,
that's their words, not mine. If they're talking about public
confidence in the National Football League, is their public confidence
with the people who did that game Sunday night? I digress.

(01:29:09):
We went on with that. We don't need to rehash it,
but part of that was also Brian Branch in the suspension.
Bruce arians appears on the Pat McAfee show on a
regular basis. Bruce Arians had this to say about Brian
Branch and the suspension. Okay, him getting all over Juju

(01:29:30):
Smith Schuster afterwards. It's an iconic picture, quite honestly.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
Looking like a little you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
But look at the security Kansas City security guard of
the background with his mouth wide Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
But he's like, oh no, oh no, you didn't him
in a note, He's like, oh no, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Anyway, here's what Bruce Arians said. It's going to be
at least one game, and right now it is. I
would hope to see more because there's no place for this,
he said postgame. So many people could have gotten hurt,
and that could turn into a huge melee and other
guys get involved. Thank god, the cooler heads prevailed. Guys
were trying to get them off the pile stop it
instead of joining in, start throwing helmets and all the

(01:30:10):
blank that could happen. I would have been fine with
three games. My question is always this because I think
sometimes we just bring up numbers for the sake of
bringing up numbers. Guys are getting three games for gambling,
all right, which is a direct violation. All right, this
I get. Do I think he should be suspended? You
damn right, I do, and I love him, but I

(01:30:31):
think he should be suspended. I think it's stupid. I
think he's got a bad reputation, and I think the
reputation is going to continue to precede him as it continues.
Where do you get three games? I'm just wondering. That
would be my follow up question if he were on
our show, I would ask him why three? Can you
give me a reason why I can't? Good?

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
I love playing both sides. Also too, for the individuals
out there that are about to go ham and teas
about Brian Brandt and the support of Brian Brant, I
get it as poor him as well. However, we know
he messed up. His coach admitted he messed up. This
is not about us attacking Brian Branch more so this compliment,
So I don't need you trying Brian Branch. Brian Banch, well,
they were hitting him that That's not all this conversation

(01:31:13):
is about. Two things can be true. As relates to
Bruce Aaron's comment, sure, I can see another game, and
the reason why I can see another game is because
you saw Brian Branch walk completely through Patrick Mahomes, and
what I mean by this has nothing good Patrick Mahomes,
only this. It was a premeditated situation. He legitimately decided
to wait till the game was over so he couldn't

(01:31:33):
get flagged in the game. He walks past Patrick Mahomes,
which means he's premeditated. His eyes is fixed on putting
hands on Juju smith Schuster, which I get. I would
put hands on him too, so I understand. You boom,
you punch him, and then after the punch is not
done like, you continue the situation until you get to
this picture, which is actually where Juju Smith Schuster gets

(01:31:54):
his nose or whatever. A little fake blood out of shape, Yeah,
a little fake. But it's like the wrestlers. You know,
he will cut themselves and then it starts leaking when
you get hit. We understand, I know the rules I
used to watch in the eighties, but it was just
it just kept going. So if the NFL wanted to
do too, I wouldn't have a problem with it, because
you put himself in a situation to have be at
the mercy of the NFL. Now, Bruce Aaron is coming

(01:32:15):
out of nowhere talking about three games, Go sit down somewhere.
You won your super Bowl like you got a super
Bowl ring elevated with, go sit down somewhere. Three games
is a bit much. Three games is a bit much.
I understand all the people could have got hurt. They didn't.
I don't like the what if situation, but there was
a lot that happened in this consistent with he's still

(01:32:38):
going right here, like it didn't stop, like after the punch.
Typically I got the punch off. All right, cool, you
know I got the punch You see that. I felt
the type of way I can get into the interviews
when I get into the locker room about why I
punched him, what he's doing, what they're not calling. But
then it just kept going. He allowed that moment to

(01:32:58):
be It pissed him off so much that he saw
rid pun intended, and he just kept going until eventually
it was broken. It was broken up. He put himself
at the mercy of the NFL. And if the NFL
came down with three, I would say it was a
bit much, but I get it. Two, I would understand. One,
I'm super cool.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
With Yeah, I'm super cool with it. Two I think
it does send the right message. I just remind people,
and I would have to remind Bruce arians this too,
that it is unsportsman like conduct was the reason for
the suspension.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Missing games like it is a lot. Yeah, there's a
lot of money when you miss games. Absolutely, if I'm docking,
that's a big deal. I'm starting to pay attention to
what a fine is, what a fine is worth, ordividal,
what an event should be worth. Uh, he's missing two
games and Brian Branch is making probably he's probably making
somewhere about sixty five to sixty five to seventy K game.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Okay, it's a big hit.

Speaker 6 (01:33:57):
And if I'm not mistaken, he's already been fined.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
Thirteen thirteen times. But see then that thirteen man.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Now they're not all one game check. I mean it
could be one thousand dollars fine, it could be a
five thousand dollars five but hey, it's money out of
your pocket. So every little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:34:12):
In what three seasons?

Speaker 5 (01:34:14):
In three seasons, if it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
If this is his first to third time and you're
talking three games, then it's like, no, it's crazy, it's
absolute ludicrous. But when you add that in there, it's like,
the more you know, it's like the more you add
in there, and now only I mean, it's an ugly visual.
It wasn't that bad, but it's an ugly visual. On
top of here's a guy that's not only a repeat,
he's a repeat, repeat, repeat offender. You're trying to set

(01:34:38):
the tone. I wish you would do this with the
refs in that, But I digress again. Yeah, I think
also to it sucks for Lions fans because we get
all this meanwhile how the game started. It's like, it
doesn't help.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
This takes over the conversation rather than what the conversation
really should be on the other controversy. So I agree
hundred percent. I also think, you know, look, he's a
prideful guy. You guys all are. He knows he's let
his team down. That's hard too, But I think you know,
when you have reputation players, other players know it, and

(01:35:10):
they're gonna goatch you a little bit more. And every
head coach is in that meeting talking to referees, watch
out for thirty two and white, or in this case
on Monday Night football, thirty two and black.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
One game is fine. And the reason why one game
is fine is because the magnitude is felt. The magnitude
is felt. One, he's missing a game. It's hurting his pocket.
Last time I check, lady, and Brian Brandt is still
in a rookie deal. He's still in a rookie deal.
This isn't Ama Saint Brown getting find a game. Who's
making thirty two million. Yeah, he's still on his rookie deal,
so his pockets. He felt it too. He's embarrassed.

Speaker 5 (01:35:42):
Do you think this affects him? Could could affect him?

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Excuse me in contract negotiations moving forward.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
Yes, that's going to be a part of the conversation,
like how can we know to count on you? So
they will put that in their measurements. And also too,
this would be some of that language in there. Hey
if you get boom boom boom, so now there will
be more fines for the contractual stuff. But also to
the magnitude is felt. They played the m v P
as of right now. Quarterback coming up this week, you

(01:36:12):
took yourself out of the game that you were playing
against Baker Mayfield, where all he does is throw for tuds.
All he does is have big moments and big players.
The secondary is already banged up including you secondary is
banged up. You Kirby Dbs can't figure it out, and
now you put yourself in a situation to miss this game.

(01:36:34):
You guys just lost to the Kansas City Chiefs. Now
you're playing the Tampa Bay Bucks, who are in the league,
in the in your conference, and you're not playing like
that's gonna be a magnitude.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
This felt.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
I'm saying in terms of like a magnitude. He's gonna
he's gonna feel.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
That, no question, the whole team is gonna feel that.
The whole stadium will probably feel it. I'm not making
an excuse for brand Branch. There's he's not thinking about
Baker Mayfield in Tampa next week when Juju Smith Smith
Schuster is doing the stuff to him.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
You thinking about that. I'm also talking about the magnitude
being like the game that he's missing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Yeah, is is it's the biggest game of the year.
That it eventuates it that much more. Yeah, I agree
with you, good stuff. Appreciate that very much. Last night
it is a Yeah, it is one of those ones.
We'd love to see the caption, right, I mean, just
put up a little bubble cloud.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
Was Brian saying.

Speaker 5 (01:37:24):
Right now, I don't think I can say that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Okay, yeah, I mean I can. I suppose, but you
know your your mom watches and I want her to
keep liking me. Last night, last night, I was frustrated
real quick. And then we'll get to the mailbag. I
watched the Dodgers beat the Brewers five to one. I'm
not frustrated over that, although I'm rooting for Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Crazy how he always figured out in the playoffs?

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
Right it is?

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
Milwaukee beat the Dodgers six straight, all six games this year.
I don't know if people know that. And you'll see
Yamamoto pitched against Milwaukee earlier this year and didn't get
out of the first inning. He was that beat up
last night. On the very first pitch of the game,
in case you missed it, he gave up a home
run to Jack Centurial. After that he surrendered two hits.
That was it, and he struck out seven lot of

(01:38:13):
one hitouts too, A lot of quickouts, a lot of quickouts.
He lasted nine innings and one hundred and eleven pitches. Afterwards,
Dave Roberts was asked, why did you leave him in
and he said, because I have great confidence in the player.
And immediately when I hear that, because I like watching
the post game stuff. Immediately when I heard that, I thought, God,

(01:38:35):
where was that discussion with our guy in the last
game of the year against Seattle? Where was that for
one more inning? He got six innings on him, he
got ninety nine pitches. Where is it with our guy?
And I don't know where it is? And that's my frustration.
I don't know if it's Aja Hinch who's told us

(01:38:57):
after the game we knew he was spent. If you
knew he reached his limit, you knew he was tapped out. Well,
how do you throw one hundred miles an hour in
his last pitch? And if he says I'm good, then
why isn't he fighting to go back in there? Blake
Snell the night before for Los Angeles, he threw eight innings.
This hasn't happened since nineteen eighty three, where Jerry Royce

(01:39:18):
and Fernando Vealnezuela went back to back games for then
the Dodgers of at least eight innings and giving up
one run or less. Why is our guy not doing that?
And I'm frustrated with that, even though I know I
won't get an answer.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
Yeah, I don't even want to speculate on an answer.
I'm put that in your capable hands because you can
look at this through a couple of different lenses. One
of them could be, you know, the agent situation. Is
it an agent talking to the GM and this is
what we are and is that is this agent because
that is a part of this game. The agents g're

(01:39:55):
not what you're not gonna do with my client's not
gonna do, don't do this stuff, blah blah blah. They
insert themselves into the game. And now, unfortunately you have
a situation where you may not be able to do
much as a skipper because this is what's already on
the table. We have an you can't get past this
or we won't go past that. So I don't know
if this is schoogles a turn, I mean agent who

(01:40:18):
is representing all the big dogs know if it's him
and Scott Harris they have in the court, they have
an agreement in aj Hinch's hands are tied or is
his aj Hinch second guessing himself, which I don't necessarily
think that I will lean on that for aj Hinch
in the postseason, where we know he definitely knows what
he's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Well, if it is the agent, then I've lost a
lot of respect for everybody involved. That means I've lost
a lot of respect for the manager who allows that
to happen, and for the picture who allows it to happen.
You're out there to win. Don't tell me you want
to win. Don't tell me that the standard should be
the World Series. And then in your next breath say
I'm gonna get pulled because I don't want to ruin

(01:40:58):
my arm for when I get to free agency. What
does that mean next year? You know, I don't think
that's the case, By the way, I'm just saying if
that were the case, that's how we would feel about it.
Somebody in the chat had a good one. Why didn't
your homeboy for the Chargers get a penalty when he
slapped Travis Kelcey in the face earlier this year. There

(01:41:20):
was no unsportsmanlike conduct play there, and there was no suspension.

Speaker 5 (01:41:23):
That's tough to argue.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Now it's against the same team, so our theory of
protecting one specific team goes right out the window. But
it was. I mean, if you look back at it
when they played overseas, right, they played overseas. That did
happen and nothing was called for that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
Once again, here you go, this is Jim Harbaugh fighting.
Jimmy's the Chargers. They are a brand that the NFL likes. Yeah,
I'm not making as a NFL loves Jim Harbaugh. I
get that. You should like. He's a big name, he's
a big day and he wins when he's in the NFL.
It's different, like there's certain people, there's certain things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
It's not the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
Apparently that's the way it is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
You ask that question, that's my answer, and is it
right or wrong? Do I know?

Speaker 7 (01:42:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
But yes I do not from arf Braylan would have
pitched the seventh thinning? Were you damn righty with it? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
You would have to drag me. You had to drag
me off the mound? What what hold on you? In fact?
Yet last night they were trying to take Paralta out
of the game. They legit are trying. They were trying
to take par Aalta out of the game. I want
to say in the fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
I think it was the fifth or the sixth. I
thought he pitched five and two thirds off to look do.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
But I think it was the fifth and he pitched
one more because he begged to stay in the game.
He begged, he said no, no, and they even talked
about it. He said, just give me one more. Any
I want to go out there. I want to finish
my night. Went out there and finished any like legitimately
got two quick outs, then got a hit on the
base and then they struck out of guy. So he
didn't give up a run in at ning. He went
out there, he said, no, I want to finish, and

(01:43:00):
the skipper reward him. And he went out there and
he rewarded the skipper. He went out there, he pitched three.
I mean he got through the any no runs like
he We heard that, We knew that. That was the conversation.
What was the conversation with Detroit schoob.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
It's a great question. We may not ever get the answer,
and may not get until next speak Freddy Perolta. By
the way, I believe it is a free agent as well.
Somebody said this, Uh besides Braylen William pitched seventh school.
This is from Ranald Small's Scooble doesn't want to re
sign with us. It's his choice whether he wants to

(01:43:35):
resign with the Detroit or not, it doesn't matter. What
does matter is that he threw a hundred pitch one
hundred miles an hour on his last pitch. He was
highly energized coming off the bump when after he posted
that strikeout, and he had more left in the tank,
at least according to him in the post game, I
felt good. I still can't understand the whole over analytics

(01:43:57):
side of things in baseball and really in sports sports
in general, or the more we're involved, the more pisses
me off.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
You gotta get you gotta get to the next round, right,
you gotta get to the next round. And if this
is a J. Hintz trying to overanalyze and over coach
so that he can make sure that Schoogle gets to
the next round of the playoffs against the Toronto Blue Jays,
and he's feeling much better because he pitched him ninety
nine instead of one hundred and what thirteen pitches or so, Yeah,

(01:44:25):
if that's what took place, and AJ you had a brain.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Farre yeah, d Lake says, well, regarding the Tigers, or
regarding the Chargers and the Chiefs, it happened during the game,
no problem between the lines. After the game, it's not okay. No, Look,
it's either on sports it's either unsportsmanlike conduct or it's not.
If it's unsportsman like conduct. A punch is a punch,
doesn't matter if it's during the game or after the game.

(01:44:52):
There is no there's nothing in the rules that says
when the final whistle blows you can't hit somebody in
the face for unsportsmanlike conduct. But during the game, while
the game's going on, the clock is winding down, feel
free to hammer away at somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:45:07):
That's not how it works, d Like.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Sorry, unsportsmanlike conduct is unsportsmanlike conduct? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
Why didn't New York call in on that one?

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Exactly exactly? Maybe they weren't away because it was so early.
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Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Somebody in the chat brought up a pretty good, damn
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players question mark. Remember Jonathan Gannon Arizona.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
Hey, straight, straight facts, Because if you're getting suspended for
basically putting your hands on a player and throwing a
punch in some capacity, that's exactly what John Cannadia he
actually threw two because the first the second one is
the one we knew was a punch. Ferston was his contact.
So if that's how you want to play it, suspend
himself because trust me, they're gonna lose with if he's

(01:49:13):
coaching in that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Yeah. Is that not losing confidence and damaging the integrity
of the game? Am I run there?

Speaker 4 (01:49:21):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
All I'm doing. All I'm doing is taking the words
that the National Football League has put out and given
the first policy.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
Yeah, I agree, it's all I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
I'm not trying to cause a stir here. By the way,
tomorrow night, two forty year old plus quarterbacks face off,
which is exactly did you see what Cam Hayward said, say,
I own is the oldest Joe Flacco the Icy Hot Bowl.
So it's Joe Flacco against Aaron Rodgers, and Rodgers was

(01:49:53):
asked about it, had a little bit of a smirk.
I'll be honest with them. It's not like Aaron Rodgers
is going to be on All Pro or anything. He's
been better than I thought he would be. And then
you look back and you look at his numbers last
year with the Jets, even though they were terrible, his
numbers were not he wants through four thousand yards last year, right,
So I mean he can still spin it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:50:10):
I talked to him at training camp the year he
actually got hurt, like I was at training camp. I
was actually at that game too, twenty twenty three, yeah,
twenty twenty three, but went to that and I was
asking him like, you know, what are you doing? What
are the thoughts? Like, what's you know? He was like,
He's like, you know, i still got it. I'm still
going here and I'm still figuring out. You know, We're

(01:50:31):
gonna have some fun. Take slow and figure it out.
He gets injured, come back some the following year training camp,
I said, so, how are you feeling this year? What
is it? He said, Look, I got start acting like
I'm still Aaron Rodgers from years ago and this he's
always Aaron, because that's exactly what we said. I got
started like I'm Aaron Rodgers talking to the third person.
But he said, look, I need to take what they
give me. I needed more shorter throws, smaller throws.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Win there.

Speaker 4 (01:50:55):
I'll take it, but we just have to meet. We're
not immortal, and he said, and this was mortality. He
was realizing last year. So I think after starting slow,
figuring out towards the end of the season with the Jets,
he saw what worked for him. He saw the throws
that worked for him, he saw the distances that worked
for him, He saw the things that he could do
in the pocket. He also saw shup things he couldn't do,

(01:51:17):
the throws he couldn't make, the things that he couldn't
do in the pocket. So I think this year you're
seeing him just down into a much more boring version
of Aaron Rodgers. But it's Aaron Rodgers that's intelligent because
he knows what he cannot do, so he's operating in
what he can.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
And they're winning. Now, these guys, it's the first forty
year old against forty year old in the NFL since
Brady and Drew Brees squared off. And they squared off
I think three times that season Brady was in the
box Tampa in the Saints right twice during the regular season.
I think they met in the postseason. I think Breeze
won the tutor in the regular season, Brady won in
the postseason. It did get me thinking, to some older

(01:51:54):
players in sports history.

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
That was Super Bowl year too.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
There was Satchel Page pitched till he was fifty nine.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
They don't let him in the leads he was forty.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
Yeah, well, I majorly George Blanda kicked two forty five
yard field goals at the age of forty or forty nine.
I'm sorry, forty nine yard field goals.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
He played twenty six years. Started as QB one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Yeah, so he was a quarterback and a kicker for
the Raiders. Gordy Howe, of course for seven decades. Fifty
two years old, okay, he played until Pete Rose one
of the greatest series of all time, played till he
was forty five. Nolan Ryan pitched until he was forty six,
as did Randy Johnson.

Speaker 5 (01:52:39):
Robert Parrish.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
I didn't know this one. I didn't know this one.

Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
The chief.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
Robert Parrish played until he was forty three with the Bulls.
When he came back, it's crazy. George Foreman was knocking
people out at the age of forty eight.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
Michael Moore, Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Your favorite quarterback, war Moon played till he was forty
four once again, because he can leave for six years.
Ricky Henderson played until he was forty four. Your favorite
receiver played till he was forty two.

Speaker 4 (01:53:08):
I finished his career with the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
Jerry Res and former Spartan kicker. That's not fair because kickers,
but he kicked until he was forty seven. Those are
some pretty impressive numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:53:18):
Jason Hanson kicked what twenty two years?

Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
Yeah, long time?

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Twenty two years, long time and.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
One Pro Bowl to show for it? Is that all
he made twenty two years?

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
That is nuts?

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
And his efficiency that is nuts. It's true because kickers
only get into it. But kickers only make the Pro
Bowl for two reasons. You either have to do something
out standing over the top or you gotta be on
a winning team. That's the only way to make Pro
Bowl as a kicker.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
I didn't realize that. I did not realize he only
made it once. That is good.

Speaker 4 (01:53:47):
Look at one time he made it. I want to
say the one time he made it would have been
when the liners are good. I think it was like
the ninety one season.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
That is that's ridiculous. Okay, it really is that. I
don't know why, but that's gonna bother me for a
while now. So thanks a lot for that. I'm celebrated
in the show actually, actually he was. He was a
three time pro bowler though, okay, three time pro bowler, Okay,
that's all right. I mean I would have thought more.
And one was his rookie year. One was his rookie year.

(01:54:15):
I left out one more. And he's a former Red Wing.
Chris Chellio skated till he was forty eight. So that's
pretty good, right, Loskate, Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Let's get
to the mail back, go ahead, definite.

Speaker 6 (01:54:24):
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Speaker 9 (01:54:26):
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on what could be behind it NFL player retiring mid year. Obviously,
the latest example is a Darius Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
It's over. You don't have it. Like at the end
of the day, you're not the version of yourself that
you once knew. You're not the guy who's going out
and getting sacks, and you're on the team, a new team,
and you don't like your gameplay, you don't like how
the inserting you into the game plan. I could be
a lot of things. But I think that's more so
what it is. You don't feel like dealing if a
guy is not premier or feature like here he was featured.

(01:55:05):
He was playing for the Lions. He was featured eight
Hutchinson's out. He's the guy, blah blah blah. Now he's not.
He's going there and they have a ton of rushers.
He's an added rusher. He doesn't like that he's playing
six seven snaps a game. They're not meaningful snaps to him.
He's like, what am I doing this for? It is
not that much money. I'd rather be doing X Y
and Z. So he's leaving to go do X Y
and Z.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Is it a way of seeing his heart's not in it? Yes? Okay,
how did you know when you were done?

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
I just didn't have it. I just didn't have it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:39):
You didn't have what you were before, right, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:55:42):
You watched the film, and I'm watching film in twenty
twelve when I went to Sea Seattle Seahawks and don't
get me wrong, like I'm still saucing Richie Sherman up
from time to time and practice I'm killing Brandon Browner.
You know, I'm doing my thing. But then I'm not
loving it, and then my knees are hurting, and then
the next day morning, now I don't have it. So
now I got to sit out of practice or I

(01:56:03):
had to not practice as hard. I'm like, this isn't me,
Like I like to compete every day. I want to
talk bleep every day. I want to rest on Saturday,
and then I want to go talk bleep on Sunday.
But it was like, hey, you gotta rest this now,
I gotta get Orthovich shots in my knee and I
got to sit out now, fly across country from Seattle
to Detroit, get my whole family to come to the game.

(01:56:23):
I'm excited. Guess what, I can't even play on the
game because my knie swelled up and didn't go down. Like,
that's not the Brela nels I remember. And I'm not
trying to talk a third person, but that's not what
I remember from myself. So I just had to tell
myself that, Look, I don't want to waste anybody's time,
most importantly not mine.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
Nobody knows it better than the athlete themselves. It's a
good question, though, it's a great question.

Speaker 4 (01:56:43):
So you can watch film like it's when you watch film,
because like film is one of the most fun parts
about it when you're young, or when you're in your prime,
or when you still got it, because you can watch
yourself getting better, you can watch yourself make play. You
watch some mess up too, but it's fun to watch
when you're watching your stuff. Be like, damn, he covered
me the whole route.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
There was no steps, It wasn't anywhere anywhere for Russell
Wild throw the ball. It's like, man, am I am? I?

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
Am I?

Speaker 4 (01:57:10):
Now only a red zone tight end version of myself.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
Is not real. So all right, let's get to a
couple more before we're out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:57:17):
Yeah, definitely. Michael Werry our VETNA chat number one crown.

Speaker 9 (01:57:21):
In this chat, he sends in a five dollar super Guys,
what are your thoughts on on leam Neil coming back
this week?

Speaker 6 (01:57:26):
I think it is just a joke that the Detroit
Lions need.

Speaker 14 (01:57:31):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:57:31):
Yes, Remember though, when players are coming back from injury,
the same thing happened with the first game, but also different.
When you're talking ligaments, it's a little different than bone.
So if he does come back this first game, expect
no more than expect no more than ten plays and
expect him to figure it out and go for the motion.
It would be exciting to see him on the field,

(01:57:51):
But don't expect a ton. Expect this to be kind
of like a read, you know, like a reapplication. Getting
him back into the defense, get him back involved, understanding,
getting the fields going through, you know, getting ready, preparing
and getting in there from time to time. So don't
expect a ton, But watch the players to his left
and watch the players to his right, because to what

(01:58:12):
you say, they will be reinvigorating. You get a player
like that back, I mean, he's one of the best
players in the league at his position. That's where he
was going last year. So to get that back, you'll
see the excitement much like you saw the team when
ninety seven start this season.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
I love that he's back. I think it's I think
it's huge for this team. I think it just gives
you something. As much as we have seen the disappointment
with the loss of corners Terry on Arnold, DJ Reid,
Brian Branch against Tampa, this guy's gonna infuse this team
a little bit. I think it's gonna be contagious. I
don't know how long it'll last. And I'm not saying

(01:58:45):
that that's that they're gonna beat Tampa because of it.
But this is a really big deal. I am a
little surprised that he's coming back a week before the bye.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
I'm not no one reason why because he has the
buy so he'll be able to play a little bit
and then he'll be able to stem massage. He do
all the things to get back for the next game
in two weeks. But also, uh, that's not the wrong
choice of words, apologized stricken it from the record. This
game is serious, this game is important, and I believe

(01:59:15):
what they've seen out of him for this last three
week period. They're like, hey, Eleen, we need you this week,
like we want to put this on you. We could
use you, and so a lien has agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
So one. So are you saying if it were Tennessee
they wouldn't be playing them? No, he wouldn't be playing
all right, another one, go ahead. It's nuber one team
in the NFC.

Speaker 9 (01:59:31):
You like that, Yeah, definitely. Randall Small's two dollars super chat.
He just said, I thought the bad guys were the
Raiders earlier when you guys were talking about the Lions
being kind of in the league's higher.

Speaker 6 (01:59:43):
Kenny Powers with the five dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:59:45):
Super Chat as well says the Lions are four and
two looking at our schedule, how important are these next
four games for us, especially when you look ahead to
the playoff picture.

Speaker 4 (01:59:55):
Yeah, that's what they can do is look ahead, like
that's what they got. They gotta start doing the cliche things.
It's just one game at a time, But these games
are important, are all important. You know, they're game six now, Like,
just let that sink in. There's only ten games left
in the regular season. It happened quick. So these games
are important. And it starts with Monday night with a
team that is number one and playing some really good

(02:00:16):
ball on offense. They got injuries as well, but they
always seem to figure it out, so no excuses for them.
It's gonna be a damn good game. And then you
get a buye. It is so important to win before
you go into a buy because it's just about the energy.
It's just about the overall mindset, and it's about relaxing
and refreshing knowing you want schell, it's something about losing.

(02:00:37):
It makes the buye week miserable. Now guys are staying here.
Now you're downing in. Now, you're overworking. Now you're not
enjoying the buy. Now you're trying to make sure. Now
you're overdoing it. For that next opponent, get this win.
It could be major for you in terms of just
the mind set. We talk so much with planning fitness.
Your mental health is just as important as your physical health. Well,

(02:00:58):
this would be a huge mental sit situation for the
Detroit Lines. You get that win, this, you get that win.
This is you like, this is you for the whole
ten days with the shoes and all got the shoes up.
You know, the the Ja Moran threes. You just relaxing.
You're just chilling watching some TV, ordering some Coney Island.
You know what I'm saying. This is what I would
do on my off week.

Speaker 6 (02:01:16):
You lose.

Speaker 4 (02:01:17):
It's a lot different. You're gonna be down in the
Allen Park, You're gonna be watching all the film you can,
and you're gonna be in that weight room.

Speaker 2 (02:01:22):
We're gonna be watching film tomorrow because tomorrow Thursday. You
know what Thursday means. I know you think it's haircut Thursday.
For me, it means Brailan's breakdown at three o'clock. We
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