PISTONS ARE BACK! | Lions NFC North LOCK? | The Braylon Edwards Show | Wednesday November 19th, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
Just good moves, man, there we go. Can we pause
for just one moment? How much do you love the mint?
Is it? Is it peppermint? No, it's not, it's mint
chocolate chip?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Do you like that?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And the shoes match? Does the lid match?

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
You think the lid matches? You think that blue goes
with that?

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yeah, like a Navy blue with this mint. I wanted
him say, because it all comes back to blue. But
I think there's a level of there's a level of
taking it a little bit over the top, like I'm close.
But I think with the white shirt underneath the man
and the blue as it throws it right to us person.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
You have taught me an awful lot about fashion, even
though I don't always come through with it on this show. Okay,
I would not wear the blue lid with that beautiful outfit.
First of all, I couldn't pull that outfit off. You
know that everybody knows that Brendan's wildly nodding his head,
or as Shawn Belliegian likes to say, shaking. Is that
Sean shaking your head? Is this nodding your head? Is
that kool Aid's just smiling? It's too nice to say anything.

(01:58):
Your your gate giggling right now because you know I'm correct.
I couldn't pull that off. But the blue hat does
not work.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
So the reason why were the blue hat?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
One?

Speaker 6 (02:08):
Like haircut Thursday is tomorrow, haircut thursdays too. I'm staying healthy,
so I'm not going out like I wear my hair.
I can take it off and wear my hair. My
hair was wet, so I didn't want to necessarily catch
pneumonia catch I threw the hat plus just like that,
just like the you know, you can't leave the house

(02:29):
without had on, man one shot. I love my mom's
and the chat as always, but.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
They had too. Man. You know it's the lead outfit.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
This right here is the lead place that most people
aren't going to go to, so kind of matches.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I would love to go there, see that that's a
special place. What color lid should he have on? I
would guess white would be better.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Brown brown, brown would be dope, Like if I was
going out, would be dope. If I was going out,
it would be brown, the nice brown. To your point,
that would be that chocolate chip meant, yeah, that's what
you were talking to.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
But can you live with that that?

Speaker 7 (03:03):
I think the brown looks dope, man, especially if it's
like a tusky and brown.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Or like almost like a tobacco brown.

Speaker 7 (03:10):
A little tuscan leather in there.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, little tobacco.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
See next segment, I'm gonna go to the car and
get my sponge and get my hair round.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I'm gonna take the hat off.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
You have to run real quick. If you can move
like that was really quick, pretty good. Yeah that's not
bad at all.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
I still got him. I still work on the legs.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So you you you feel good, you look good. I mean,
if you're you're over the cold, that's great. Last night
was a great night of sports viewing for detroiters, and
for me it was even better because State of Michigan
one last night. Yeah, it was unbelievable. My son made
smash burgers last night. So we have this. It almost
looks like a pancake. You hold it, yeah, and you

(03:46):
smash them like they do with some of the famous places.
I'm telling you, man, it was so your food and good,
so good with grilled onions and so.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I caramelized grilled onions.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yes, now I'm telling you, I'm not lying. It was
so good. I had a buddy over who helped me
with a project in the basement. You got to have
those guys, right, one of those guys.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
You just call them over.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Your payment is, hey, come over, crack a barrea, but
who have some conversations or it's.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Exactly right, and that's what would do.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I gave him a smash burger he that he just
shout chowed down and a beer and and he helped
me with a project in the basement. All right, So
really good, dude, you've got to have that if you're
not a handy guy. And I'm not I'm not a
handy guy. But you've got to have that guy. Right,
You got to have somebody who's an electrician. You gotta
have a plumber. You gotta have that handy guy overall,

(04:35):
and you gotta have a dealership. Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
There?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
That's the game like less Stanford's perfect left Stanford dot com.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
That's the dealership. That's the gambit.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
That is the gambit.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
What am I missing? What am i?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
What do you have to have? If you're a guy,
you got your own house, all that stuff. The plumber.
The plumber is a no brainer. Got electricians a no brainer?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
You have you have to fix it? That does it? All?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:56):
You have the fix it? That does it all?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I need a fence put in Braylan. Great, come on,
all right.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
We got I think to fix it. Plumbing is particular.
I would have a plumbing guys fix it?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
The electrician is that you have to do that?

Speaker 6 (05:10):
My uncle could do it all man? Well right, yeah, yeah,
uncle wants you could do it all.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
But what am I missing? Folks in the chat? What
are we missing here that we need.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
To you you're on the grill in the in the summers,
and things.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Like, oh yeah, I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Okay, cool, I'm talking about house maidenance.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I was just gonna say, do you need somebody who can,
uh see, That's what I look at the handyman for
if I have a project where I got to use
you know, wouldwork if I got to use carpetry or
something like that.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
I think you need a house manager in terms of
the sense of a person that that works in that space,
that knows where to get stuff, that knows the things,
that knows who to call, Like if you don't necessarily
have a guy like for our it was I got Stewart.
Stewards was Bloomfield like you had Steward up. Steward knew
everything about the house as it relates to the decor,

(05:59):
as to the roofing, as it relates to you know what,
you want a generator, don't go here, go here for
the generator. You want to put this guy here, don't
go here, go get this guy.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
So along with your friends, he's got a guy.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
You gotta have that one guy that knows everything like
that has a guy, the guy that has a guy.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
That's who you gotta.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
John in the chat says I thought he said dealer,
as in you know what, no, no, thank you. I
appreciate that technically.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Is legal now, so you don't need to deal it
if you're talking about need to deal it and we
ain't talking.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Right now, not necessarily where I was going. But John,
I understand why you may have been a little confused.
What am I missing here? Homeowner kool aid? What am
I missing here? You have to have Oh man, here's
here's the only place I think I could. You gotta
have someone who can plan a trip for you.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
That's the missus. Are you talking about the playing the
guy trips either?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
But you're right the missus can you usually do a
pretty good job of playing the trip.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
What about the I'm all the pilot when it comes
to trip, Hey, here you go. You just tell me
what time? And would it be? That's what I mean,
tell me what time?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Somebody who can do that?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
If I covered all the bases?

Speaker 7 (07:07):
Do you think so?

Speaker 8 (07:07):
I'm thinking?

Speaker 4 (07:09):
But all right, all right, I think so? And you know, yeah,
I think that's it.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Okay. Somebody said the greenhouse a green thumb. That is
the landscaping aspect of it.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
That's my mom. Okay, that's Britney.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Okay, soanscaping like grass was something serious.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
To They love it so much that they've got me
into like I have to add picture of this so
I can tell like with different plants and with different flowers.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Or what you're following the schedule of fertilizing that issue.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'm starting to get into. It's kind of cool though, too.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
I think the cool thing about when you get into
a garden or when you get into your yard, the
landscaping aspect of it, it's watching the process and being
a part of it and cultivating souff transforming that part the.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Transformation part about it.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
It's just like a coach, Like it's just like a
coach taking on a player, being a high school coach,
and you get this kid in eighth grade and then
watching him in eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth and now
you're looking at CJ. Sadler as a twelfth grader at
cash Tech and you see what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
SMOOTHI king high school player the week.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
There.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
It is that cultivation is killing right there. But that's
the transformation process. The same can be said by like
gardening and flowers.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Also you realize some flowers they die and come back.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Are you good?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Are you good at it? Envisioning what a room or
a house can look like, or what a garden can
look like.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
My mind can't go there. I can't picture that stuff.
My wife is great at. When we first moved into
our house about six years ago, we're cutting that. We
cut down nine trees, Okay, they're out, and then we
cut down a bunch of brush and she's like, you'll see,
I'm gonna put this this. I couldn't see it now.
Compliments all the time from people about oh I love
how this goes around your garden and how this goes

(08:47):
around your deck and so on and so forth. How
are you at that?

Speaker 6 (08:50):
I'm gonna send a picture in to you, guys. I
have a vision, but it all comes from my mom.
My mom has always had that from the time we
you know, whether it was Rosedale Park, whether it was
on the west side down the street in green Acres,
like she's always been able to dial into the landscape.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Down TV in the day.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yeah, green Acres is placed to be then also to
the core inside of the house, like the artwork, or
the vises, or just a certain culture. This is gonna
look here. No, Charles, don't put the TV there. I
think Devong say is more over here. And then she
did it when I got in the league. Like she
designed Cleveland, she designed New York.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
She designed when I noticed the house when we when
we went over there, so I get it her. I
could see that you're I think your imprint was a
little bit more on probably your office and stuff. I
thought these further big rooms had a more of a
female touch, trying to say I'm trying. I'm giving your
mom more credit than you. I think I can tell you.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
Every time we talk about's house and its folks, I
just keep thinking about the.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Fire food, the fire food, the food. It was. Food
was really good. Yeah, yeah, me too. I thought the
same thing. Chicken wings were really good. All it was
really good. I could have sat there with a bib
and just dove in constantly, and.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
Just later I was like, man, I made alf.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah it was. It was great, And I I enjoyed
meeting a lot of people looking, well, you guys would
come over my house sometime soon and I look at
my house and my wife. There's no way she I
would change anything that she's done. And that's kind of
how I look at Brelan's house too. But speaking of
the smash burgers, So my son makes smashburgers and they're fantastic.
I'm going on and on rantom raving about them, how
great they are, and my wife's you could tell there's

(10:31):
a little tinge, just a tinge of what can I
not go, Like, what's the one thing that your mom, wife, girlfriend, whatever,
what's the one thing they make that you think is
so good that can't be duplicated.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Oh that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I like, I worried that it can't be duplicated, Like,
your mom made some really good food that time we
went over there.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
I I can go down the list with her and
my sister. Yeah, it's too good. Her potato salad is unduplicated.
Spaghetti sausage sweet spaghetti like it's it's chef's kiss man
every time. My sister, Like, no one can marinate a
state like my sister. See, you know, one can marinate
fish like my sister. You're looking off in the distance.

(11:18):
I can tell your picture.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
I'm there right and I'm literally there, and the.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Taste buds start to go wild a little bit.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Stopped by mom's house last night. She had made a
spicy steak kind of streak steak stir fry, and it
was a little spicy. You know, it was a little spicy.
I had to say it again, but it was super
good and just reminds you sometimes it takes you back
to My favorite thing was when I was in college,
because you know, when you're in college, it's not like
when they're in college now with the nil and all
the money they can they can go to chop house

(11:46):
every night if they want to.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I didn't have those options.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
But they've got good food.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
But you have a lot of teammates aren't from this area,
a lot of teammates aren't from the state, a lot
of teammates.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
That are way, way, way far away.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
So to get a home cooked meal every once in
a while, like that's the best gift I think me
and my family gave to my teammates. I start bringing
them home my freshman year. It just like start cycling
around the team. It got to a point where it
wasn't just the wide receivers trying to come to eight
mile in living or it wasn't just the offense It
wasn't just the defense. It became coaches and everybody trying

(12:17):
to come and get some of that cooking and extended.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
To mental pod when I was in the league.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
When I would come back the guys in college, they
knew k Braylen's home.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
We're going to West Boomfield. Mom's still cooking it up.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And guaranteed that your mom loved it.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
She man, she fed love, She fed the Seattle Seahawks.
Here's a great story. Playing for Seattle. They playing Detroit.
We lost the game before everybody's trying to figure it out.
We lost.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I couldn't even play my knee it bubbled up.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
But that's why they lost.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
But we did have a reison package that I was
gonna be a part of. I told Mom, I said,
your mom, I said, you know, you gotta cook. I said,
you gotta cook for the squad like you got like
I promise if I get some guys to come with
you cook.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
She says yes.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
So I got the team to give me one of
the shuttle busses the day, you know, the day we
got in the day before the game, and we went
all the way to West blowing Field, don't you know?
Forty five guys came, including Russell Wilson, including Marshand, including Golden.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
And Doug Baldwin. Like everybody was at the house chowing down.
Maybe that's why we lost foods. That is, so that
might be while we lost How how do you prepare.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
For cooking for forty five people in the house? And
I get it if you're the rest drive forty five people?
Do you remember what she served?

Speaker 6 (13:33):
I want man fried chicken, spaghetti fried chickens spaghetti's amazing salad.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
She kept it like, so.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
You know you you're feeding forty plus people. Well you're
feeding big to picking certain ways of steaks.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, you're not. You're not freeing bread.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
You're feeding came Russell.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's a big man, all pro tackle.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
I want to say Max. I want to say Max
Hunger came to, like the crew came. They came for
this meal. I had hyped it up and so they
backed up. Marshalln was the highlight though.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Max Hunger was really good. Center. Okay, so kool aid,
what about your household? Kids gotta have it from because
Mama bear makes it?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
What is it?

Speaker 9 (14:12):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, you know, look my wife is Cambodian she throws
down on. It's called like patti U. I absolutely love.
It's a star fried dish with chicken or beef noodles
and such. But the thing that she really throws down on,
and this was passed down from my grandmother, uh sweet
potato pie. And it's the way she makes it. It's
unlike any other sweep of teto pie. I'm telling you,

(14:35):
it's perfect.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Man.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
I'm gonna bring some in during the holiday season for
you guys. She's very imprehensive whenever Thanksgiving comes around because
because Grandma, because my grandma wife is still making those
sweepsttle pie. So my wife is like, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Up there.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Yeah, and then my grandma didn't on my pop side,
you know, rest in peace. She would spend all Sunday
making pound cake, one pike, one or two of them,
like I'm talking about from Scratch bro. She like she
would be preparing butter like the day before. Wow, it
was perfect stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh, I bet you that was unbelievable. That's like bakeries
would kill for that. That's a good song by Van
Halen too. What about you, Brendan.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
My mom's chicken and everything Scratch was so good, and
her chocolate chip cookies.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
There's nothing wrong with going with the baking, all right, man,
Baking is baking could be difficult because you've got to
be very specific with it, right.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Bacon.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
The reason I bring this up God rest my mom soul.
She passed a few years ago, but today's her birthday.
And I thought to myself while I was thinking about,
you know, we were at Braylen's house. So I woke
up this morning, I'm thinking, man, you know that food
at Braylen's house was really good. The stuff that his
mom made was excellent. The stuff that my mom made.
My mom made some sloppy Joe's that I just could
not get enough of, just absolutely loved it. When she

(15:57):
made pork chops, we would have what's called redd and gravy,
all the gravy left from the porch chops. We would
put bread in it and just dip it in the
sauce and leave it on the side of the plate.
That kind of stuff is. And my kids cannot get
enough of my wife's chicken noodle casserole. So there was
some of the things that came to my mind because

(16:17):
it's my mom's birthday. And then I reflected back on it,
and I.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
Got to shout out my mom to like shoe be
pissed if I don't talk about her cooking. She used
to throw down and everything, but she would throw down
on lamb chops and me and my brother.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
That's not easy to cook sometimes.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
By the way, no no, and me and my brother,
we didn't get it much. But whenever she would make
the lampchops, my dad would come home. They would eat them.
For whatever reason. We got the good TV, we got
the sound system, we got the games. My parents ate
the lamb chops and went to their room and did
whatever they did. And you know what, it was perfect
for us.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Brother.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
We got the lamp shops or not, but they smell good.
She threw down. My dad was happy.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Don't be afraid to bring those in as well as
the pound cake. Braylan and I will not say no
to that. What were you going to say?

Speaker 10 (17:01):
No?

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I was trying to find these pictures. I hate sending
stuff to slag.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
Do y'all know Mama rolls man.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Some of the establishments I understand, but one I got
to talk about eight miles in Detroit, Jamaican pop Mama
Rose wants to come in and she wants to be
able to bless you guys with some food as well,
like Jamaican today.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
You know her, bro, I think I do. That's why
I'm like, yeah, you know my dad, she came. She
looked out for my dad. Matter of fact, my birth
matter of fact, my birthday last year.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's your birthday tomorrow. So maybe she can bring in
them all. I'm just saying, that's all make it. I
love that, man, those are good stories. I mean that
that makes me feel good, you know, And I think moms,
it's almost you know how dads love fixing things. Son
calls you up, Hey, I got a problem with this.
I'll be right there. I can't wait to get there

(17:54):
and help them. Right. I'll show you how it's done.
This is what dads do.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Pop still like to be needed, show off the scale.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
One when I was a kid, my dad, when he's
starting fixing stuff, you got to stay with me. I
thought to myself as a kid. You know, I'm ten
years old, What the hell am I doing. I'm not
doing anything. I'm holding a flashlight for my dad. He
can see it. He just father just wanted his son
there all right. I didn't do that as much with
my kids, but if they needed me, I'm there. You
need something, you need a poll put in, let's go.

(18:22):
I'll help you dig the hole. Moms want to cook
for their kids, Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
There?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Moms love that stuff.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
This weekend, I've been getting that with both my parents
here and in laws here. The food has been like fantastic.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's why you put on ten pounds.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Oh yeah, I feel like I put on twenty. So
you're being kind.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
That's so cool. Anybody got something like that in the chat,
feel free. It's just a lighthearted way to start the
Brailan Edward Show.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
On some people in the chat though, Greg Thomas is saying, yo,
I love family talk Art Vandamn says he's smacking pound
cakes right now. Yeah, I'm seeing some people that here.
Where is it that? Oh Art again? Park fat m
He's locked into this conversation right now.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
We love that.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
So if he's got a suggestion, give you, give your
mam a shout out, and we'll definitely dive into that.
We're gonna dive into some football when we come back.
We do have something that we're gonna debut, Braylan buying
in or Braylan's selling on certain things. We're gonna give
him some cut topics and he's gonna let us know
if indeed he's going to buy in or he's going
to sell on that. When we come back. Though, you've

(19:28):
got a guy who's about to make a start, his
first start in the NFL, and it had me thinking
about how I have labeled quarterbacks in the National Football
We'll get to that when we come back after this
from Martin Jakes and Van Johnson, who quarterbacks winning teams
on a regular basis in the courtroom.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, he doesn't. He's defied.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Look, man, you may not think about fighting in the courtroom,
but let him fight for you, and I guarantee you'll
get the results and to guarantee the big do that
you need. Whether it's a settlement or verdict, it does
not matter because he and his team they want all
to smoke.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
So let them apply that pressure that you need.

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My cousin asked me, why why every time you say
Lions do you say it like that? And I'm like,
what are you talking about? The Detroit Lions we talking about?
He said, just do your show and pay attention. Sure enough,
soon as I read this read I knew exactly who
something about Lions like, I don't know what happened, Like.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's a little bit of a growl in there.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
It.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah, it's like the energy from maybe a play call
or a game where maybe I'm listening to Dan Miller
or somebody else in Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
There's a little extra boost there once in a while.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
But you don't And I'm like, Tigers. Sounds like.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Somebody was doing WWE right now.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
It does somebody needs still away from w W.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, let's let's talk about that. I mean, I was
gonna go into quarterbacks. But now that you say that,
there's some I wonder where people's heads are at sometimes,
like do they do they honestly think? Oh, there you go?

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Do they? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I lost my train of thought for a minute. Do
you think do you think people really who thinks the
stuff out? Obviously they don't. And what we're referring to
is Cam Skataboo, who is out for the year with
an injured knee and was a really important piece to
the Giants by the way, he was a player. He
was recently at a WWE event, which is fine. We're

(26:42):
not saying he shouldn't be, but for him to get
physical when he's had surgery and is about to rehab
and his career, knowing that he was a mid round
draft pick, it's not like he's cashing in big time
Braylan bucks yet. Okay, he hopes to one dad, you
don't do that. But if you're showing up at WWE

(27:03):
events and risking the chance of further injured, what do
you think the giants response was to.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
This, giants are idiot, so they probably didn't care like
we know that Joe, we know Joe shit. First of all,
the fact that Brian Daveball got fired and Joe Shane
didn't let you know all you need to know about
who the New York Giants are. And I know he
drafted Jackson Dart and a couple of his defensive line. Overall,
you shouldn't be there.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
This isn't the fun Police.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Okay, me shaving not come up here like the fund police,
and we're regulating fun.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
If you want to go to WW. I still watch
w W every once in a while.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
It's been a long time because, frankly, the brand is
horrible now since it's going to Netflix. But I still
will go to events. Kool A and I have seen
each other at events. Some Slam most Nobly is the
most recent time that we went, when it was in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
It's fun to go to WD events. They do a
good job typically in person. Camp's got it.

Speaker 12 (27:49):
You can go.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
It's in New York. Go have fun show. Don't put
yourself front row in an engagement where we just watched
your leg getting mangled like a car accident for weeks
ago and what we saw from you so far this season.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
If I'm a Giants fan, I'm kind of excited. I'm
kind of excited that you on my team.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I think there is a future for you. But what
can happen if this dude pushes you back or you
push him and you slid too far as your henchmen
are behind you, they should have grabbed you and told
you not to do that.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
What happens if you get hurt? Because I didn't even
think about what you just said.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
He's a mid card, He's a mid.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
Mid cards and now I'm thinking about wrestling. He's a
mid round drift pick. It's not even guaranteed that you're
gonna come back, and they have not found somebody maybe
next year to replace you, depending on what they're going
to be drafting at. You gotta be smarter than that.
Giants gotta be smarter than that. I mean, I get it,
it's clout, it's trending. I want to do the trending thing.
This literally when viral is everybody's.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Trying to do. But is this one moment particularly worth
a elongated recovery process, maybe even a process that puts
you you know, any longer process.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
I don't think it's worth They sold that. Man, I
wish we could play it, but the WWE is tough,
but they really sold that. I'm sitting there like, bro,
your leg just got that messed up, and you're like
full fledge out there Joscelyn with some of these w
w E russels.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So and I'm not saying that his contract isn't worth anything.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
I think he was six hundred and forty.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Five thousand dollars this year. You know, I could live
comfortably on that. Most of us could. Okay, those not
wearing a mint outfit today, but you could live comfortably
on that. The problem is if you get not.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
Guaranteed exactly, if you get hair and you can't play,
there's no more of that, right, There's no more of that.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Look, and you'll be gone. They don't care about you
the WWD once you're gone, Once you're a non factor
because you're not You're not getting in there dapping up
your hair, putting on more tattoos and sounding all gruff
like hul Coogan to be the next WWE champion, right, I.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Don't want to act lang.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
I've never gotten injured in the NFL and didn't go
out and do some dumb things.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
It happened.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
I told my ACL and legitimately was out dancing in
the nightclub like four days later.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Like it was.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
I saw the kimbe Mutumbo dancing on ACLA Push.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
No he was doing he was doing uh, he was
doing stanky lig Wow. This is what I'm forty.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
But I tell you like this, Remember when the Houston Rockets, Uh,
this is when metalworld Piece was playing against Lakers and
he was doing his thing is run our Test.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
This is when they were going back and forth.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
This is why the Lakers end up getting run our
Test and they lost in Game seven that series. The
Kim and Tumble was out with a torn n CL.
I was in l A and I was at the
spot you was supposed to be at back in the day,
and but Tumbo is in the booth next to me.
First of all, I'm talking about you two second ball.
He was torn a CL.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
He was doing the steaky lag. So what I'm saying,
I've done that as well.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
It's okay to a certain extent dude activities when you've
torn in a c O, when you've had surgery things,
if you can do it.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
It's cool.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
This has a level of physicality that you can't control,
because what happens if you push and slip off all
that baby oil on my man's shoulders and chests.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
If you slip, you fall.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
Now you fly over a little railing nigga right there,
and you get hurt. I'm just saying it wouldn't be
in the best interest. When I was dancing at the
club is very low key one cameras and I wasn't
the Madison Square garden or over the hell else they're
rest and so I would just say be a little
bit more cast is trying to chase the viral moment,
because like, you're not Sa Kwon Barkley, who got drafted

(31:21):
third overall, you're not asking genty who they might wish
they had you over him right the way it's going,
but you're not him that money. The money ain't going nowhere,
and they're not going away.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
With it if you get hurt. This is also giant.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I get that he's there, but how about being there?
How about being the celebrity. How about the celebrity PA announcer,
the guy who brings in hey and introduces everybody. Why
do you have to be in a moment where a
big dude is pushing you around and big well, he's
big enough where he's pushing you around and you don't

(31:54):
have a chance to protect you. So I just think
it's ridiculous. I don't This is where some times sports
is gone, where it's more about the entertain Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
It's about the entertainment, the entertainment value. I'll make it
make even more than chef. I remember when Rob Gronkowski
because he's boys with Mojo Riley and don't even ask
you Chev. I don't even know how I still remember
his name, but they went to Arizona together.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
There boys, he's arrested. He's super smart. The whole nine yard.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
He gets in the ring and does a whole move,
runs around, runs up the roads, does a spear a tackle,
the whole nine yards. I'm thinking, like, damn, what if
he tears his ac in his ring and Tom can't
use it to Tom and the Patriots is gonna be pissed?

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Or maybe he was with the Bucks at the time.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
But that was a healthy player, and I was like, man,
I wonder if what if it's a real thing?

Speaker 4 (32:44):
The what if it's a real thing?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Would you what would you do if you were the GM,
a smarter g H and the next day or the
night you find out about this stuff?

Speaker 4 (32:55):
What do you if you guys heard of he Like,
no matter.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
What, you just see the situation. You can put you
on the edge of your seat. Just see in the situation,
I would be.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Happy that he's not hurting.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
And I wouldn't approach it as a as an a hole,
like I'll approach you more like you can't be that stupid,
Like I approach kind of like that, like you can't
be that dumb, Like Cam, come on, like what happens if?
And then I would have a conversation that we're having.
I said, Cam, let me let me drop some knowledge
on you, Like I know that you got the cloud
because of the name. Like Cam's name is bigger than
most first rounders last year, like going into that draft

(33:26):
because of what he did because of the self can
called Heisman Trophy the whole nine yards, Like you think
you're bigger than you are, that will be the conversation.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
You think that you're some irreplaced We're.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Running back based on what what I've seen so far
in the NFL, Like, look, there's something there, but it
didn't show us head to where we need you, like
you got physicality and you got grit, you got moxie,
like you ain't out here running four two or something
that we need. Undoubtedly, So sit tight because if you
get hurt, I can't promise you that this six forty

(33:57):
five is gonna come your way.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
There are so many strange injuries over the years, over
the years. Steve Sparks, who I got to know because
he does Houston Radio during my time of Major League Baseball,
he was injured once because he was trying to be
funny by ripping a Yellow Pages apart. Yeah, and yeah,
I know, so it really screwed up his entire seasons. Yeah,

(34:21):
I mean it was. It's just yeah, it's it's just
stupid stuff, right, I mean, you're hoping to do something
like that and then suddenly your your shoulder goes out
because you're trying to, you know, bring so much torque.
If a guy like Sammy Sosa can get injured sneezing,
and he did in his early thirties, he was injured
and was out sneezing, who says something like that could

(34:43):
write something like this could have happened to me. Strange
what sneezing you?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
It's sneezed in the car and I all, well, mess
my back. I was, I was down. This has happened
in I think I happened in June, June, May, juneo July.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I sneezed. I was down six weeks like, still was active, hurt,
really violent sneeze had like pull over.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
That's a really violent Were you trying to hold it in?

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Because I sneezed And I was like that break my riot.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Is going Had you.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Heard that before?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Anson? I had never heard that before. Oh, what the
hell is going on here? What happened? Oh my god?

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Like the sneeze was like the sneeze was so boy,
it made me forget that I had the green.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Light and there's Tony LaRussa passed out next to me.
Kendris Morales, I don't know if you remember him. He
played for the Angels. He was a catcher, hit a
Grand Slam. It was a game winning grand slam. He
came across home plate slipped as they were cheering him on.
He was out for the rest of the year. It

(35:50):
changed his career. His knee he tore his knee up.
Stephen Tully, Yeah, Stephen Tullock doing it doing a dance.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I mean, there's just too many stupid things that can happen,
especially earlier in your career where everybody knows.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
They talk about in the chat.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, well with the guitar hero supposedly supposedly the guitar hero.
How about Matt Anderson, who was went one one overall
out of Rice as a closer. One of the dumber
draft picks you could ever have. Who drafts a closer
out of college one one overall throwing an octopi and
ruined his throwing shoulder or throwing elbow, one of the two.

(36:29):
It's just stupidity, right.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Injury happened when you do those things, because when you're
doing a lot of times and you're in the moment,
and you're in the moment, like the adorenalinists gets pumping,
you overdo it. That's what happened with Telly, almost happened
to me. I was coming out Monday night football Giants
versus Browns. This is your Giants won the Super Bowl
year before the Flaxic go in the Patriots and I'm
coming out.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
I'm excited.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
This is my first money that game ever I'm waiting
this my whole life. I come out last, did a
whole backflip. I'm doing that my whole life, the backflip,
but the excitement and the energy and the momentum, like
I kind of overrotate. It didn't fall, but I tweaked
my hamstring a little bit, and so I landed it.
I knew instantly. I said, oh, shoot, come on, I know,

(37:13):
I know you didn't do that. So legitimate. The very
first play, I mean very first series, third down and seven,
it is a slant route. It's against what against blitz?
If it goes blitz, it's a one step slant. dB
comes across my face.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Bang. I look catching.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
And if I had a regular hamstring that day, if
I wasn't trying to do backflip ship, it would have
been a seventy yard touchdown.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Instead it was.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
Fifty seven and I got caught. I was fighting the
safety the whole way, like stop, leave.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Me alone with my hamstring. So like it.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
So did that creep up on you to eventually affect
you later in the season too.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Well, I was able to get ahead of it. I
have a doctor in Toronto.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Shout to Tony scott Man and he was ahead of,
like kind of all the active release therapy things, art,
chiropractic work.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
So he helped my hamstring get better. So good that season, but.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
Doing something dumb before the game, trying to get to
doing something stupid.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah, like I almost cost myself, but one the game
I had buck fifty four.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Even well, touchy. It doesn't surprise me even stuff like
this that you think is controlled. Yeah, I think of
Orlando Brown. Anybody remember Orlando Brown offensive tackle Cleveland Browns.
I think nineteen ninety nine nickname Zeus if you got
if you recall referee through a flag, hit him right
in the.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Eye, changed the whole being bad system after that.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, and his eye. I believe he was legally blind
for several games afterwards.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
That was it. Twenty seven million boom gone well settlement,
he settlement. He sued the UH.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
He sued the NFL, SU the reps because they changed
the beanbag material. Now the flag is not made the
same material used to be that beanbag material.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Like hackey sack or corn hole.

Speaker 6 (38:52):
They went away from that after In fact, his son
was first round draft pick. Oh, what's really Orlando Bryan
plays for someone? Yeah, speaking of those so I get it,
you know.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I mean, everybody wants a little piece, everybody wants to
show the entertainment side, no problem. I just think there
are so many things that can go wrong. May remember
Gus Farott played for the Lions for a short period
of time, vikings his neck when he was in Redskins. Yeah,
concussion came back the next week, but it was never
the same. I don't know if it's the reason. Maybe
he just wasn't that good because he wasn't, but I'm

(39:22):
sure it didn't help, right, So there's just too many
stupid things that can happen with that.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
That was a quarterback that I do it in the draft?
Oh really, I got so many randoms though.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Dude, Yeah, I wish you would have had a good
quarterback at some point in your career. That would have
been nice.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Yeah one in the plans, man, I guess that guy
had other plans.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Speaking of quarterbacks, I put quarterbacks into certain silos. Okay,
you could say great sometimes you overuse the word but
great or a guy having a great season, like I
don't think Drake May's great. He's having a great season
right now, deserves to be in the at least MVP conversation.
Backup quarterbacks is the other. If I I ask people
right now, anybody know who the Lions backup quarterback is?

(40:04):
Go real quick?

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Anybody can't.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Kyle Allen is the thing? Yeah, all right. There's not
that many good backup quarterbacks. Shador Sanders, who is third
string some would say four string to start the year,
is going to start for the Browns. And I'm thinking
to myself, hmm, Justin Fields has been benched. Tyrod Taylor's
coming in for him. Tyrod Taylor is a backup quarterback

(40:32):
that I wouldn't mind starting a couple of games. But
Kyle Allen's a guy I barely want to start a
couple of series. Do you kind of throw backup quarterbacks
in similar silos like I do with starting quarterbacks, or
how do you look at it? Because I think some
guys they're just hanging on because they'll start maybe a
game or two. Drew Stanton, Hello, we had a great career.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
He really did.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
He had for what he did. He stayed on and
got a pension. That's great if you can do that.
But there are so many bad backup quarterbacks, and there
are a lot of quarterbacks right now I look at
the I'm like, I wouldn't want that guy starting for
me if my life depended on it.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
I think the problem is, like the NFL is in
the space, were like not that many good quarterbacks to
begin with, correct, Like back in the day, even if
quarterbacks weren't starts, like quarterbacks are still understanding position. They
knew what to do, like they could, they knew the offense,
they could have some success. And if somebody gets down,
you know what I'm saying, O'donald goes down, Here comes
Bubby Brister, he'll fill in, He'll be fine. If insert

(41:31):
Ben Roethlisberger, one of those guys, Well, here comes Charlie Batch,
a professional backup quarterback. Now we know he started here,
but his crux of his career was a great backup
quarterback that doesn't exist that you barely got started quarterbacks
that are good now, So how you're gonna focus on
the backup quarterback?

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Like how many teams really have good quarterbacks? Like ten
exactly ten, and then you're and then you're and then
the other seven.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
You're trying to every week figure out if they're top
fifteen or if they really are top twenty.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Five and they're debating some of those ten. So and
Jalen is one of those and debate he's.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Down the top twenty five, so I think he got Yeah,
he's going back up.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I think he got ten. And then you might have
just a few in the middle, and then there's some
really bad ones that you want to.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Know the fifteen or in good quarterbacks correct.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
So if you can legitimately start a bad quarterback, your
backup quarterback is going to be trashed.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, he's got to be awful, absolutely awesome. And and
you're seeing some of them obviously start. We're gonna see
Mason Rudolph. How long has Mason Rudolph been around? They're
around for an extended period of time, Because.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
Then what happens with Mason Rudolph is when these bad
quarterbacks like Mason Rudolf, who had a good college career
Oklahoma State, the whole nine yards.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
And follow his journey. He's been in the league so
long enough.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
It's the longevity now where you trust him more than
the bad young quarterbacks of today. So now you're give
him credit for the longevity. It's like, you know, well,
I was listening to somebody. They were asking a question
on this dumb network that I watched from time to time,
and they were saying, do the Pitts still is need
Aaron Rodgers to play this game to win?

Speaker 4 (43:03):
And against the Bears, somebody said, well.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
I don't think they need uh, I don't think they
need Aaron Rodgers to play the game.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
They got Mason Rudolph. He's a journeyman, but he's been
with it. Still is he understand what does he understand?

Speaker 12 (43:14):
What does he know?

Speaker 8 (43:15):
Ya?

Speaker 6 (43:15):
But I don't even understand why. I was a question,
But to that point, it's the longevity. It's how long
he's been there. He's been there for this long. He's
understanding this, He's seen.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
That, he started here and there. He's not a good quarterback.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
He's a bumb Yeah, there's just not that many. You're
you're one hundred percent right. I've said this forever. People
think you should just be able to draft a quarterback
and make somebody into it. Doesn't there's there's there's not
thirty good quarterbacks, let alone sixty.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
It's only a couple of good backups. And that's why
they keep recycling. How How long how long the case
Keenum fly around?

Speaker 4 (43:45):
How long did Ryan Jered.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
His name Fitzpatrick. The other guy right now Gardner Minshew?
How long is Gardner Minshew? Like the good one backups
now like you're like no, no, no no. If you
guys don't want it this year, slide him this way.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
That's why you like Tyrod Taylor told for the season.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
He's a quarterback that has success everywhere he's been. He
just eventually gets hurt. Unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Kool Ay just said, I mean, Joe Flacco's forty.

Speaker 6 (44:08):
But he gonna gonna come in and he'll give you
two forty. He's gonna get three touchdowns in a seven.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
As long as you know what you're getting, right. And
he took over for Jake Browning, who's a younger quarterback. Yeah, okay,
but he's become obsolete. Bengals don't need him, absolutely not.
The only reason he's there now is because Joe Burrow
remains hurt. And if they start Joe Burrow again, somebody
else is gonna lose their job. That would be ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
The question originally is this about you doer? Is he
one of those quarterbacks? Does he fail?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
I don't think it's fair to judge the young man
yet based on I would not want to be judged
off one show, one broadcast, one interview, whatever. He deserves
the opportunity to grow a little bit. I'm not a
huge fan. I didn't think he was very good at Colorado.
I wouldn't have used a draft pick on him at all.
People couldn't believe that he was sliding as far as
he did. I could, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna

(45:02):
sit there and say this guy has no business and
he falls into this silo for a backup quarterback, I
don't know, and you know what, I would go so
far as this. He could start the rest of the season,
I still wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
I'll be honest with you too, I did this.

Speaker 7 (45:15):
I don't judge him off of one interview, but it
did change a little bit of my perspective on him
when he talked about Dylan Gabriel and saying, look y'all,
I appreciate it hearing the cheers, but if Dylan is
a starter, I want him comfortable. I want him confident
when he's in there. That to me did change a
little bit. Because we're not in the locker room, we
hear different narratives, but made a difference for me, at
least a little bit.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Yeah, yeah, oh man, you know that's cool, Like she
was a nice kid, He's a really a good kid.
Like we're starting to understand that when we know that,
I'm glad that people are starting to pay more attention
to that. But as it relates to what he is,
I just hate every time his name comes up it
becomes this awkward conversation, like people are scared to have
a conversation.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But why do you think that is?

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Because one, are you offending Dion Sanders? Are you offending?
Is it a black and white thing? Like they've made
the conversation over the last two years, last year and
a half, really they made it so polarizing he can't
even have a real conversation. Like there's elements of there's
elements of him deserving a shot in the league, and
based on what he was, what he was, what his

(46:11):
numbers were, what he had done with the film, with
the technique, what that looked like. It was a lot
better than people were giving credit for. But he wasn't
a first round quarterback in my opinion. He wasn't the
second round quarterback in my opinion. If you want to
make him third, then that's cool, But I think that's
where it began.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
For me.

Speaker 6 (46:25):
It was a third round pick. But now the conversation
about him is different. He comes into the game, he's
a third round Excuse me, he's a third stream quarterback.
They've had a lot of periody of quarterback in Cleveland
over this season.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
He's now the guy.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
He comes in and the offensive line after the game says, yeah,
we weren't used to his cadence, And now the conversation
around becomes, well, it doesn't matter if they were used
to his cadence. If he was a good enough quarterback
and training camp people have showed you something and then
you would have got his cadens like I'm sorry I
played the NFL Like that's just false. And then you
start to pull things like Peter Schrager started to say
things like, well, Russell Wilson wasn't drafted as first round quarterback.

(47:01):
He came in, had to play behind Matt Flynn, but
he showed enough. Well, I was in Seattle, you weren't.
What happened was he Carroll gave him all the first
two reps. He Carroll didn't want Matt Flynn. What did
I tell you about Pete Kerrett? He loves the players
he drafts. He never wanted Matt Flynn never saw anything
in Matt Flynn. Matt Flynn had a conversation me playing
ping pong like he was like, I just don't understand

(47:21):
why I can't get you first team reps.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
I was like, does he does not like you?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
But to that point, like that, that's really good.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
It was. But Russell got first team reps.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Russell knew who Max Hunger was, he had his cadence,
He understand the team. So Russell has some success. Shadoor
ain't took no reps with anybody for an offensive lineman
to say we don't have his cadence, We don't know that.
Lets you know that Kevin Stefanski doesn't like Shadur at all.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
And that's another issue NFL teams have.

Speaker 6 (47:49):
The owners in the front office want one thing and
the head coach want something else.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Because Kevin Stefanski never.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Wanted or yet Kevin Kevin Kevin never wanted Shador We
know this for a fact. The only quarterback that he
wanted was Dylan gab They chose to draft him. They
chose to bring the circus lack of a better word,
because you didn't want him. You chose to bring in
to Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Now here we are. I don't like that aspect of it.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I don't either, but you said something that is that
surprised me a little bit. And this is what I
love about this show. I love getting the perspective, the
black perspective, I really do. I think it's really important.
Why should that matter when over half the starting quarterbacks
are black in the NFL today? Because why do we
talk about race all the time when it comes to

(48:31):
the position. I mean, I can give you sixteen starting
QUARTERBALLMP Russell.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
Wilson's at a starter anymore, but to start the season
it was six teams the first time and then we'd
ever been at half.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
Okay, I saw that graphic well one, because it's the
real deal. That's like when people talk about some things,
because it happened because you couldn't play this position for
a very long time, and it is the polarizing position
as it relates to the black quarterback.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
But we've seen it go by now we have.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
But what happens is you can't negate the ones. You
can't negate, like when there's a bad one, they go, oh,
were on the board. So that's the conversation that we're
talking about the fact that everybody had Shador Sanders listed
as a first round pick, everyone, all the all the guys,
and then all of a sudden it wasn't. It makes you,
It makes one believe, and then when certain the dividuals

(49:15):
get up here and talk, they go so.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Hard against it.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
It's like, just just talk between the lines. That's what
we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, that's that's what I believe. That's what they've be done.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
But that's what they don't do.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
But I think they've done that with white quarterbacks too.
I mean, they've done that with Daniel Jones for crying
out loud. I mean, he was secured in New York
and for good reason, he didn't play well. But at
some point, my hope is that we can move past that.
When you've got all the black quarterbacks, they're established. I
don't I mean I do. Do you think people do
that with Christian McCaffrey is a white running back. Cam

(49:47):
Scattabuy is a white run.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
What they do is you get little less rope as
a black quarterback when you listen to Kylin Kyle her
when you listen to all these assholes on TV when
you get this much rope as a black quarterback in
the NFL, this much wrote they've been in the gating
individuals like Justin Fields. I remember the whole conversation is
he good? No, But that conversation started about him way
before he got to the Jets, way before he got
to the Stillers, way before he even got to year

(50:10):
three with the Chicago Bears. Meanwhile, you're still lobbying for
quarterbacks like Justin Herbert and all the others like. So,
it's it's not that you do a shove. You're a
logical individual. I'm a logical individual. Yeah, but the machine
isn't necessarily logical, and it leads to these fractured conversations.
So where the conversation can't be an intelligent one on

(50:30):
shouldure in between the hashes or insert Daniel Jones in
between the hashes the only place to talk about him?

Speaker 4 (50:37):
But should do it?

Speaker 6 (50:38):
It's well, he's not this, he's not that, he's not that,
and oh, by the way, has nothing to do with this,
and he can do this, and then he's doing the
bling and.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
He's doing all the other stuff.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
I don't care what anything about that, But Dren lies
the conversation.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
But fair to say we've had the same conversation for
the last two years, maybe three about Jared Goff. We
have the same converse in terms of what he cannot do.
The focus on what he cannot do, The focus is
that he's not a mobile quarterback. We constantly heard about him.

(51:11):
We heard it in this town about matt Stafford. I
had a debate with somebody at training camp where they're like,
you got to start Dante Culpepper, why Stafford's clearly better?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Right?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
And Stafford was clearly better, But what was the narrative
about Matthew Stafford can't win big games, needs help from
everybody else. Everybody else is helping him. I think it's
the position more than the color of the person who
plays the position.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
I was not could be in that situation and have
that that feeling. I just can't like what I've seen.
It's on the other side, I wish everyone would like
that is just not when this conversation comes up. The
I would say ninety percent of the time you had
this conversation is not with level hitting individuals, like you said,
it's what individuals that don't necessarily understand what a fan boys.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, I always harken back to what my dad used
to tell me when I was a kid. He goes,
I don't care about the color of the person, the
color of skin of the person wearing the uniform. I
care about the color of the uniform. In other words,
if you're a Piston and you're rooting for Eric Money
sorry long time ago, or Kevin Porter again, long time ago,
that's what matters to me. I don't care that Kevin

(52:19):
Porter's black. I care that Kevin Porter's a piston. I
don't care that John Mengelt's white. I care that John
Mengelt is a piston. That's what mattered most to me
way back in the day. And I think the sooner
we get away from that that Braylan Edwards is a
really good black wide receiver or he's being compared to
Jerry Rice because he's a black wide receiver, I think

(52:41):
the better off will be. I look at it like
Braillen Edwards is a really good receiver, period. That's what
I want to look at.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
It's true, and that's fair, it's very fair. But when
you talk about the first black quarterback playing Super Bowl
is nineteen eighty seven. Doug Williams you talked about there's
only been what five quarterbacks says to play in the
Super Bowl as a black quarterback, it was a thing
where we know owners and coaches would not play black
quarterbacks because the fear of what they were.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
That's the thing that you can.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
But it doesn't matter, like that doesn't go anywhere, Like
legitimately fifty sixty years ago, like we couldn't.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Drink at the same waterfoul agree that energy stopshop.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
That energy is still there whether I know, but I'm
saying you were about to cut me off, Like that
energy is still there. Even though we've had a black
president since then and we were able to get along
tons of things that have changed. That energy will never
go anywhere and it's still right there at the cusp.
Same thing with the black quarterback regardless unless you're Lamar Jackson,
unless you're Jalen Hurtson.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
They don't like him because it's not that good.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
I don't like me, but he won Super Bowl, like
Patrick Mahons. Is the split thing, like unless you're one
of these elite quarterbacks, there will always be a ton
of conversation about what you cannot do.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
And regardless if you get drafted in the.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
First round they're going to try to find They told
Lamar I shoudn't play quarterback like and this was just
seven years ago.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
They said he had to be a wide receiver. That's
still races realistically.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, okay, I get it, and that's eight years ago. Yeah,
I think, but I don't think that's unique to Lamar Jackson.
Is my point.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
There's there And.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
What I was gonna say is there are white guys
who play quarterback who say you can't play quarterback either
you should move to a position, could be a linebacker,
could be someplace else. That's all my point is.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
And you one individual ever, Tim Tebow.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Okay, you said it's never gonna go away. That tells me,
if it's never gonna go away, that it's never going away.
The constant thought, even if there were thirty starting quarterbacks
who were black, it still wouldn't be satisfactory. That's what
it tells me. If it's never gonna go away, we're
always going to be talking about whether the guy is
a black quarterback or a white quarterback, and how much

(54:46):
leeway they get and how much they don't. I think
there are plenty of quarterbacks because of the position who
are constantly ridiculed for what they cannot do if they're
not taking your team to the Promised Land, and.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
If they're black, it goes up by ten percent, is
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Okay, all right, fair enough, that's a good discussion. I
love it. It's yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
These type of conversations are very healthy to have, by
the way, and I.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Appreciate no, I'm I'm glad we can do this. I
hope we can do this more because I think it
helps people understand a little bit more when we come
back to.

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hear about the Lions. Lions don't have a back quarter.
What are we talking about?

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Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I didn't expect to go this route, but Braylan just
told me something pretty interesting about you know that private
investment firm two point four billion to the Big Ten.
Michigan and USC have opposed it. Yeah, I'm surprised to
Ohio State's with it. To be honest with it, I am,
but it's verbally and publicly it's been Michigan and USC
against it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
We State's not that smart. Big how's they fall?

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
They talk about the independence in Wheal House, theal how's
they the chinks in the armor.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
They don't want to smoke in terms of leaving though.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
They like being invested in it in a conference that
actually likes them, like the Big ten loves Ohiose State.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Sure they should. They bring them a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Also, Ohio State doesn't go against the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah. So if Michigan and USC chose not to participate,
there's a window forgive me on how many years I
forget exactly. I was going to say, yeah, okay, yeah,
I thought it was I thought it was about ten
years or so. So if they don't agree to it,
they're going to be forced to leave the conference. Now

(01:02:34):
I might not be around when that takes place, who knows.
But my point is Michigan's been around the Big Ten.
Michigan is synonymous Michigan is. There are certain teams that
are are that conference.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
We're one of the ogs. Ohio State is not matter
what would happen?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
What where does that go? I don't think it's too
far fetched to look ahead to that one. Where does
it go?

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
It's not because as you you and I called it out,
there's only two other teams that could do it, Notre
Dame does. One of them is Texas and one of
his Michigans in terms of what the brands are, and
with Texas its own continent down there. So one percent,
I just think you lose one, you lose money. You
lose money as in the Big Ten. The money that
you the easy money that you get also too, like
who's gonna play you? Because now if I'm Michigan in

(01:03:17):
the excuse me, if I'm Michigan State in Ohio State,
and you're trying to keep that relevancy, to keep some
sense of familiarity for the people are looking at your schedule.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Like who and who and who?

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
So you want to keep those scenes on. I ain't
playing it from Michigan State. I don't use aim for effect,
and I'm not gonna play if I'm Ohio State. Why
give you that game? Like you left the conference? So
I think it's a patchwork of trying to figure out
each year who we're gonna play, and you never develop
a rhythm, and I think you kind of get away
from the lore of what Michigan is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
It may not be that to others, but it's still
that to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Me, okay, and that makes me think as usual. That's
what I like about this conversation and this show. If
they're not going to schedule Michigan because they left the conference,
like that's some type of sin who they gonna put.
You don't think it helps those schools, You don't. You
don't think scheduling Michigan helps Ohio State. You don't think
scheduling Michigan helps Michigan State. This is not a one

(01:04:08):
way street here. It helps those schools too. I think
they do schedule them. Now Northwestern may not, Indiana may not.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
But Ohio State doesn't need to High State. They don't
need to schedule Michigan.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
So who they gonna get to take the place somebody
else in the Big Ten who they didn't play this year.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
But is it a taking the place of a Big
Ten like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, I think so, because you're gonna want You're gonna
want X amount of conference games, Right, that's what they've
been talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
You've got you got sixteen new Big Ten teams.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Well that's what I'm saying it, right, it'll be you
better fill that with somebody you know, not like Chulaine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
If you're still winning championships, it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 6 (01:04:48):
And that's the difference of Higo States still every every year,
whether you like it or not, Ohigo State is right
there and winning championship. They're a game or play from
being a national champion, being in the National championship game.
They still have that going for Missigan stake.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
What do you have?

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Yeah, I get it. Here's I think what hurts Mission
would hurt Mission more than anything else. If down the
road in ten years they have a season like last year, okay,
or even a season like this year, how are they
nudging themselves into the college football playoff conversation? If you
don't have a conference championship to claim you better be

(01:05:26):
really effing good outside your conference as an independent, similar
to what Notre Dame has had to do. Notre Dame
not always in the conversation if they lose a couple
of games now it doesn't really matter as much, but
when they use it because they don't have the conference
to fall back on. Okay, and sometimes, let's face it,
the people making those decisions in the college football playoff

(01:05:49):
room before they do an interview on ESPN after making
the announcement, they're associated with conferences. And I think that's
where it can hurt them. Cool Aid, I'm sorry, Go ahead, Bud.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
Yeah, Now, I was just gonna say, you make some
out of points in my opinion, both of you guys,
both boys, as it relates to the importance of Michigan
being in the conference. But I do wonder if Michigan's
not there, how much does that Big Ten regular season suffer?
Now do they care about it if they're getting that
whatever the billion dollar two point four billion dollar dellalars
I don't know, but I know last year, despite all

(01:06:19):
of the good the Ohio State did have, they claimed
like a thirty eight million dollar loss within their football program.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
No, not no, within their athletic but the athletics that's
a completely afflectic program completely.

Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
But the football. But the football program was effectively they're
a big drawing that with the NIL and how they're
structuring their rosters.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
And sure you're getting twenty two million.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Here here's what.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Let's be honest. Football steers the bush in every program.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
The people who want to do away with football programs,
here's what I tell you. Get rid of your football program,
tell me how your other sports are going to survive. Okay,
because I don't care where it at. Pick Eastern Michigan.
Eastern Michigan gets eight hundred thousand dollars a year from
ESPN U or ESPN two whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
All Right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
You may not think it's a big deal. It's a
big deal to them. All right. You may make that.
Michigan may make that on a Saturday at home. Eastern
Michigan needs that not just for football. They need it
for girls, track, they needed for tennis, they needed for golf. Well,
golf is a private but they need it for other sports.
So listen, that's a big, big deal when it comes

(01:07:24):
to this stuff. The TV is a fair point, but
Ohio State didn't lose their football program didn't lose thirty ls.
I guarantee you if they made money.

Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
Not the football they're they're talking about. That football program
had had a lot to do with somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Because all the money they spent. So what they spent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Gotchay.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
They spent what twenty two last year, but that was
private donuts as well too. So I think the way
the money game is going, if this is different that
this is before that you're allowed to just pay players
and come up with these collective groups to make it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
I think it will.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
It will hurt Michigan tremendously. But the fact that you
can still do it this way. You're talking eleven years
for Larry L.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Listens and all the other billionaires in Michigan to figure
out what we're gonna do, how we're gonna work.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
It can be his son for truth Sky Dance in
that studio. I think in eleven years.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
That's a great point.

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
We'll figure that money out and they'll have a collective
put in place by that time where sure we'll leave
and we'll be fine, here's who we're gonna play. We'll
already have the teams that we're gonna go and then
we still got the bread. Now we'll just pay it out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Dude, There'll be schools lined up outside the gymnasium to
play them. I don't think that's the problem. Now what
Ohio State and Michigan State take pass? They know that
better than I would. I suppose it's possible.

Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
I doubt one, because then what is the regular season schedule?
Because for all them sixteen new teams to the Big Ten,
you can group a whole lot of them together and
they don't pull the numbers that a Michigan does, even
when they're playing kind of fledgling or.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Like the blue blood big team.

Speaker 7 (01:08:49):
That's where it gets a little weird. When you pull
Michigan away, then Ohio State is only playing for the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
Selling point, how much money Fox makes off the Big
Ten talking about Michigan on house day all your life
this year.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Round, anybody has that. It's it's a lot of money
in just that entity by itself.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Look at the highest viewing games in the Big Ten
this year. Michigan is in there on a regular basis.
So with this team, I don't know. I don't have
the information from.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Just as bad as this team is and last year
it's still.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Yeah, it's still oh you're saying yeah as a positive.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Now when it's good.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
You saw it happen. They were record breaking numbers like
twenty one through twenty four. I don't think any team
has done that. Yeah the history of college.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
So when you look at it that way, I hope
people understand. I know some people get tired of seeing
these certain big name teams. Now there's a reason networks
put them on. The reason the networks want them is
because they bring in eye eye and they bring in
a lot of marketing dollars. Okay, we may not like
Duke basketball. I get I get it, the blue blood stuff, this,
that and the other thing. You're tired of it. Guess what,

(01:09:58):
there's a reason you watch? Sorry you do you watch?

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
I think Ohio State has a big nowon Kickup this
week and they're playing like Rutgers or something, but like
they have it because it's Ohio State and Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yeah, well, there's a pecking oars, you know, there's a
pecking order for TV's a certain network hits and there
what are they gonna do? We want to wire? But boss,
they're playing Rutgers. I don't care, right, that's what they did.
Kool A Wells, you're gonna say.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
I'm to say there thinking about it, nout like you
pull Michigan away and now it becomes like Michigan State
versus Rutgers. But now Michigan can go and schedule whoever
on those same weekends. Like I'm hoping that they think
this thing through because I do like Michigan in the
Big Ten. I like the matchups. It makes almost every
fledgling team that day. It makes it almost a big game.

(01:10:48):
I will take it close. It becomes ESPN sends off
the alerts and everything. Everybody starts tapping in, even if
it's just Michigan and like Illinois on a super down.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Year, can I can I be a smart ass and
somebody on the opposite.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
I will say, more World Games.

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
I will be excited about more Powerhouse World game matchups.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Michigan death value.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, that would be cool.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
That's a dream. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
I would like to see that too. There's a part
of me that would embrace that. There's a part of
me that would be disappointed if if they left the
Big Ten, or any of the big teams left the
Big t supported Michigan State left the Big Ten. But
here's what I would ask me. Brailan told us the
story earlier this year. He ran into some Ohio State
friends of his, Joey Galloway, name drop and a lot

(01:11:30):
of other shout out out he beat you on that one,
and they said, Hey, what mattered to us is we
won the national Championship's response was, but we beat you,
so we won the national championship. If that didn't matter
to them, because they won the national championship, I suppose
if they'd have lost at some point to Texas or whomever,
then it would have mattered to them. But if that

(01:11:51):
didn't matter to them, why do we think losing Michigan
on their schedule would matter to them all that much?

Speaker 7 (01:11:57):
I can't even imagine Ohio State with no champions little house.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
They do with themselves, with no Michigan. They need us,
like they talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
You don't think Michigan needs to Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
I'm talking about it in the sensive they talk about
us three hundred and sixty five. We don't like. We
really don't like.

Speaker 6 (01:12:13):
We talk about you guys in football season a little
bit more as it turns into November and the game
is around the corner. Like once the season is over,
it's like back to Michigan business. So what the hell
else I was doing down there?

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
They're still talking about the host, the hole state of Michigan.
That's one of the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Michigan business. We're looking at strictly from a football standpoint.
Basketball is a big deal too, okay, And I would
argue this. I'm not saying it brings in more money
because it doesn't. But when you're playing different certain basketball teams,
when you're going to Breslan and you're going to Makie,
and you're going to Indiana, and you're going to champagn

(01:12:51):
or Banna, which isn't a great place to stay overnight,
but it's not a bad place to go watch a
basketball game. Certain places like that that matters man football
maybe not quite as much. There's a couple that would
really hurt and sting a place like Michigan, But the
basketball it would mean a lot more. And then what
do you do with your other sports? I mean, where
does hockey play? I mean, I know people don't like
college hockey. I do where are they playing if they're

(01:13:14):
not playing Minnesota and Whiskey and they're not playing Michigan State.
Where are they playing?

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
Here's the question. Is it just the football team that's
leaving the Big Ten or would it be the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Host great question?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
I can't Notre Dame does that all the time. Sure
they can't hear you. You go play in the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
ACC, but they don't do it in the Big Ten.
I thought the Big Ten was different, like Notre Dame plays.
I believe Notre Dame. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
Notre Dame is in the Big Ten of lacrosse, but
I don't think they're in the Big Ten and anything else,
not the ACC ACC and in basketball and independent.

Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
They went in football and went to independent day. I
mean they went to ACC that you're just getting into
the playoffs and it worked and then it was appreciate
that back to independence.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
So that is it would it just be the football
program leading?

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
I think part of their deal with leaving the ACC too,
was that they had to schedule a certain amount of
teams every single year for a certain period of time.
And they've done that. Okay, so they've done that, but
that's an it's an interesting discussion, it really is, on
how that would work.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
All right, Michigan versus James Franklin in Virginia Tech.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
There you go. Okay, that opens the door for sure.
Speaking of opening the door, what's that with Rich with
Rich route on the call?

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Oh, I liked it. That would be a Brady. I
need a favor where you coaching these days?

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Speaker 6 (01:21:55):
Yes, it was a great conversation talking about the panic
meter here in the city, and I think a great
way to phrase it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
We had this conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:22:02):
I talked a couple of boys afterwards and he said,
it makes a lot of sense when you phrase it
like this. I think a lot of people can maybe
not even lie or be dis honest. They just aren't
necessarily sure that their panicking when they are. So I'll
help you out in that regard starting the season. Let's
go all the way back to September, before the first game.
If I would have told you that after week eleven,

(01:22:23):
the Detroit Lions would be third in their division, it
would be six and four and the fourth place team
in Minnesota Bikans they would have lost too, and oh,
by the way, all the other things that if you
phrase it like that for a team, they'll be in
third place after week eleven, six and four, and you
lost to the fourth place team of your division, of
the Minnesota Vikings, and then you give them the caveat there,

(01:22:45):
I drop by. It's only happened twice a team went
going to the Super Bowl winning after being in that
particular space. What would you say about that before the
season start.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Yeah, I would definitely be concerned. There's no doubt. The
only you can go ahead. The only thing I think
you say eleven weeks. If eleven weeks, I assume that
they're seven and.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
Four, they're close.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
For me, seven and four feels a lot different than
six and four. Seven and four after eleven games is
one thing. Six and four after eleven weeks is different
for me. I know that's nitpicky, and I apologize, but
that's how I feel. In other words, after eleven games,
if they're six and five, to me, there's reason for panic.

(01:23:27):
That's how I feel about it. What did your buddies
say about it.

Speaker 6 (01:23:30):
He was like, when you look at it like that,
he say, yeah, because I wouldn't have thought that this
would be the case. I thought that the Lions were
going to be eleven and six, twelve and five. I said, well,
that's the case. You knew they had to lose four
times five times, right, He said yeah. But I thought
through the totality of the season, I didn't think they
would be sitting at six and four, right, I said, OK.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
So his mind would change based on that information. The
same thing with me. I thought they'd be thirteen and four.
You thought they'd be I believe twelve, and.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
I said twelve and five?

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
If they if they win six out of the next
seven games, they all but one to all but one,
You're right, they reach what you expected. How they got
there is different, but they still reached. For me, they
have to run the table to get to thirteen and four, which,
in all likelihood, they haven't shown you any reason to
think they would. I would feel a lot different too.

(01:24:18):
Here's the issue. And I keep going back to what
you said on Monday. Who did you lose to? Who
have you beaten?

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
I need this seven in a row because during that stretch.
You will have beaten Green Bay, the Rams.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
The Bears, whether you think they're a good team.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
The Bears, and made up for the loss to Minnesota.
That's what's required for me fully to go full throttle
and be a believer in this team like I was
a year ago, and to feel like they belong in
the same conversation as the Rams, the Eagles, and dare
I say, just from the NFC standpoint, I say, Seattle, Yeah, cool, yep, ye,

(01:25:02):
all right. Anything in the chat that we should get
to before we jump on whether Braylan is buying in
or if he's selling go aheah.

Speaker 7 (01:25:10):
We definitely have a couple of super chats. When I
get to Randall, Small's the five dollars rondo and then
jay Rod sayers, I'll say his second ten dollars super chat.
You'll like it as well. But Randall says, did Brad
screw up on not taking a chance on Shador Sanders?

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
No, not at all, like realistically, Like trust me, He's
made a lot of mistakes, that one one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Yeah, I don't think so either. Remember he spent a
third round pick on Hendon Hooker. He's basically out of football.
Would Shadure Sanders have beaten out Kyle Allen. I don't
know the answer to that. I don't think anybody does.
But Kyle Allen, outside of a one half of football,
I believe in the preseason, was actually pretty damn good. Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Yeah, I just think too.

Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
I think we're in I think we're in space now
where it was different back in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
We had the conversation. If you didn't hear go back,
it was pretty cool talking about the quarterbacks versus you
know then and now back then. Shoot a man, I
lost my train thought.

Speaker 7 (01:26:09):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
What I was going to say is, look, we don't
have to go back into the conversation. Rodney Pete was
a black quarterback for the Lions, played at USC as
you know. I think it was a fourth round pick,
maybe a third round pick. But I liked him in Detroit.
I thought he did some some good things. He and
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(01:26:31):
like Eric Hipple could run a little bit, he could
go outside the pocket.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
But every time I see him, every time I see him,
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Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
Because you see him.

Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
Excuse that's that's exactly what he does on the sideline
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Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Mad.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Yeah, it's so true. But I was thinking about those
those guys who could actually move around the pocket, and
we weren't all that thrilled with them, were we? And
then we get two back to back quarterbacks who are
more of a pocket passing type of player, and we're
still not good enough. I think basically what we want
is what everybody in the NFL wants. They want Josh Allen,
they want Lamar Jackson, they want players like that and Patrick.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Mahomes true because that's why they stand out well.

Speaker 6 (01:27:26):
Also too, when you have guys coming off the edge,
like when you have guys like Micah Parsons, we have
guys like Miles Gary, you have guys like TJ. Watt
Our own Aid and Hudchison, you just you can't be
you can't be a statue anymore. Right, It's gotten to
the point where unfortunately, unless you have the best offensive
line and you can sit in there and you can
protect a little bit and give guys time that statue stuff,

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these guys are too fast, too explosive, Like they get
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yeah, like eventually, I mean, you could have the best
got the best right tackle, and they got a very
good left.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
And you still have the clock. It's still a ticking clock.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Right, Anything else cool late that we need to address
here before we jump.

Speaker 7 (01:28:03):
In, Yeah, definitely. Jay Rod sayers he has the number
one crown in our chat today. Tend out a super chest.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Say hey, jay Rod good center field for Seattle, which
he says.

Speaker 7 (01:28:12):
Back to feeding a crowd Thanksgiving two thousand and four,
my family fed an entire varsity football team dinner hosted
at our church, one hundred and ten pounds of turkey
plus all of the sides, a total of seventy five people.
And get this, not a single piece of food left.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
He says.

Speaker 9 (01:28:29):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
I appreciate that. Yeah, because when you talk about impacting
the community, in fact, you did your church. I know
that there were people that would come and needed that meal.
I know you also gave some things away that night.
You donated to the community.

Speaker 6 (01:28:39):
That's what we're talking about when we say in pacting
the community, I appreciate you with your family.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
That's really good stuff. Thanks for sharing that. We appreciate
it very much. Remember Braylen's was at a house, yours
was at a church, but it's still very effective. Good
for you. I know. Somebody had mentioned in the in
the chat about just they were talking about the Tigers, yeah,
Colt Keith and saying, you know, I hope they don't
move him to third base. Somebody responded saying, well, I'd
love to see him at first base. I would just

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remind people, and this goes not just for the Tigers,
for if any sport that dude's played eleven games, seven
starts at first base. All Right, you're getting Labor Torres back.
He's gonna be your second baseman. He was a minus
four run defensive run saved. Your first basement isn't great
at defensive run saved, your shortstop's not great at defensive
run saved, and you have no third baseman at some point.
My hope is stop with the defense wins championships. Okay,

(01:29:28):
unless you're willing to say I need a guy here
because he's a good defensive player, like people are talking
about Bowbachett. Okay, it's twenty eight. I'd love to see
him in a Tiger's uniform too. Where're gonna play him?
Don't stay DH. Kerry Carpenter is at DH. You have
guys who are designated hitters right now, and when people
say Cole Keith can be your DH, what do you
do with Kerry Carpenter? Because he's not playing against lefties,
because he's batten under almost under two hundred against lefties,

(01:29:50):
and he's not great in the right field. Defense has
got to matter at some point, and it's not simple
to Saint just saying, you know, Bobuschet, we're gonna move
to third base. So I get the why you're saying
certain things in the chat. I just remind you of
that Cole Keith played seven He had seven starts at
first base. That's it. I do not want an experiment
at the major league level. I think it's enough of

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that stuff. Personally.

Speaker 7 (01:30:14):
I think while there's supposed to be a playoff team
trending towards a squad that we want to see win
a World Series two, I get.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
A tough way to do it. If that's how you're
gonna do. Let's get into this a little bit of
a new game here, all right, Braylan, are you buying
or are you selling?

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
I got a number of different questions that I'm gonna
ask you, and you can tell me why you're in
or you're out.

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Okay, here we go. First one, Shador Sanders is an
eventual starter in the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
Sure expound.

Speaker 6 (01:30:50):
I think from what I see in college, and we
talked about it, there's not a ton of good quarterbacks
now in the NFL. I think somebody will give this
man an opportunity and give him a chance. I think
he used to go to place that excuse me. He
has to show something first in this Raiders game.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
He has to show something. You know, one of like
one n percent.

Speaker 6 (01:31:05):
I'm one of those individuals that you should know something
after this week. You really should know something after this week.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
Doesn't mean you have to come to a conclusion. You
can get a better glimpse, and I would prefer that.
But just seeing what I saw in college, stay was
I think so?

Speaker 6 (01:31:18):
Because also too, I can name you a lot of
guys that started the NFL last three years. None of
them necessarily that good, right, so consistent starter maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
And there's plenty of guys who are good in college
who you know that and don't make it an NF,
don't make it in the NFL. High Matt Liner, Josh Allen,
that's a really good one. Josh Allen is going to
repeat his MVP buying or selling selling, Okay, because mass effort.

(01:31:46):
After a three rushing touchdown, three passing touchdown day, he
is now third in the latest odds. It's Stafford may
Allan Taylor. I don't agree with it because it's become
a quarterback award, but he's now third.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
I mean if they give it to him because they
want to give it to him because at the end
of the day, they just feel like there's no one
better to receive the award, and they give it to
him that he's Matt Staffords, yet he blew it somewhere
along the line they wait waiting for him to blow it,
or Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 6 (01:32:13):
You're not going to give it to him because you
don't give it the runningacks. You're gonna ignore Jonathan Taylor
because you don't give it the running back. So I
think if he gets it, it'll be by default this year,
and that's being honest. I know he had three rushing
touchdowns and he threw for one. A week ago, we
were just talking about them just struggling like it's Miami.
A week before that, we were just talking about in fact,
ain't this the same dude that lost to the Falcons.
Have you watched the Falcons play? And no, boy the way,

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nobody was hurt. So when I see it, if he
gets it, it's by default, because I'm not hating on it.
But I saw you lose to the Dolphins and you
couldn't move the ball. I saw you lose to the Falcons.
The Falcons are a bleep shove. So if he wins,
it to be by default.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Yeah. And against the Dolphins, you had a bad fumble,
you miss some open receivers. I know things can change.
I'm surprised he's as high as he is right now.
In the MVP discussion. Michigan State had a really impressive
win last night. Hats off to Tom as a level.
He said after the game too, it was really impressive.
They didn't beat Kentucky, they beat the Doors again. They

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didn't they didn't just beat Kentucky. They beat the breaks,
They beat the breaks off Kentucky, who has a twenty
two million dollar nil to Michigan State's reported three and
a half is Michigan State, I know. Are they a
national championship contender?

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Yes, because because the coach, like at the end of
the day, nowadays, more than ever, the coach is the
one that wins national championship. I think he's always been
that way.

Speaker 6 (01:33:35):
But you've had a lot of talent over the years
and certain teams and certain brands, whether it's Kansas, Villanova
for a while U n C.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
But now I think you get the right guy. Who
is this guy with this team?

Speaker 6 (01:33:47):
I think Izzo has been waiting, and kudos to Izzo
for staying the course. I remember three years ago when
he was yelling at a player and it started to get.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
Out he's too old to coach his sport.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Wouldn't send my kids to Izzo anymore? Of the game's
pass them by. It's changed.

Speaker 6 (01:34:01):
Izo said fuf that I'm gonna continue to do it
my way and figure it out, and now he has.
This is definitely very much a national championship team, and
coaching matters more than ever because you look at that
team that Rick Patino had last year, it's an average.
You look at the players on the team, it's an
average team. They knew each other, they were older players.
But Rick Patino is a damn good coach. Coaching matters.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
So Yes stayed off to their first four and zero
starts since twenty twenty, Jackson Kohler had twenty. They shot,
Yeah they did. They shot fifty two percent or fifty
percent from the floor. Sorry, Pistons shot fifty two percent
and they hit eleven triples on the your Jeremy Fears
had a career high and thirteen assists, so good for him.
Really good game from Michigan State, and I agree with you.

(01:34:43):
The college football playoff rankings came back out. The top
three are consistent. It's Ohio State, It's Indiana, it's Texas
A and M, and then it's Georgia. Are you buying
or selling the fact that a team outside the college
football playoff top four is a national threat?

Speaker 6 (01:35:01):
No, No, I'm not that cause don't get me go down.
You know what my word was coming next. No, I'm
not buying anything. I'm not buying any of these random teams.
I'm not buying. I don't care what Notre Dame in
Miami and who's not in and blah blah blah. No,
none of those teams that are firing down have a chance. Okay,
I would I wouldn't take the field in that regard.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
You wouldn't take the field. I do think I think
it's a really good story. Texas Tech. I think they
play well. I don't think they can handle I do
Lane Kiffin has improven it. Ole Miss is good. And
this may seem strange, but even though Alabama just lost Oklahoma,
I think there's something about Alabama. So I'm gonna say

(01:35:44):
I think it is possible for somebody outside that top
four can win the national title. Pistons with another win
last night. We'll get to that here in a moment.
But first, the Lions are gonna have one All pro
or more which one buying selling? One All pro not
pro bowler. That doesn't mean squad. And if so, if

(01:36:05):
it's only one, who is it?

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
I don't think the Lions have an All Pro this year?

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
Who's all pro?

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
Even go check go, go go look it up, Go
look it up. Go look at his statistics, Go look
at his percentages.

Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
There looking at and we just.

Speaker 6 (01:36:23):
Had a conversation about him not showing up. You want
to give him credit for that half sack? Yeah, the
other night we'll go kudos. He had a half sack.
You shared that, But no, you're talking all Pro the
best of the best. Nobody on the Detroit Lions teams
as of right now deserves to be All Pro. All
Pro is reserved for the best of the best. And
if you're not on the team that's winning, which the
Lions are not, saying that, you better be Miles Garrett.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
So all Pro. No, I take that back one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Your boy Jack, Yeah, that's that's where I was going.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
Jack, And if he Jack Cam is the Lions only
All Pro.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
He's typed for fourth and tackles, and I know that
doesn't always mean everything, but he is getting more and
more love on a national basis.

Speaker 6 (01:37:04):
Especially as a defense and I think that's better and
better than his shows like that. Now people start to
pay the defensive side. So if they get one, it
will be Jack campb.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
I will say this, I think they're gonna have two.
I think Penny Sewell will be especially now that Lane
Johnson is hurt. It could be based on reputation. Trent
Williams has done it based on reputation in the past,
and I think it will be Jack Campbell. So I
think it's those two guys.

Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
Can you expanded a little bit more about Jack Campbell
and what got you? You know, because you pulled you
realed it back in and I want to know, like,
what about Jack campbellfre Obviously we see the stats jump
off the page.

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
Well as an individual that walked off the stage and
they drafted him in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
I feel like I have this connection with Jack Campbell.

Speaker 6 (01:37:43):
I've watched him more than any other player for the
Detroit Lions, and I've watched him take this step year
after year after year, get better and better and better,
and once they put the green down on him last year,
you saw me be.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
Able to take the role as leader.

Speaker 6 (01:37:53):
And now when I see this year is a guy
that is continuing to jump off the page. Ladd coming
into the season show, we said we want to see
Jack campb will fill more stats. We want to see
him in more columns, well more saxony he's ever had
and by double if you will, like he's forced fumbles.

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
Everything that he's doing is also within the game. It's violent.

Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
And what I'm asking about ninety seven, what I'm asking
ninety seven to do for ninety one snaps ninety one
percent of the snaps. Excuse me, I'm asking him to
show up more. Forty six is showing up four or
five times.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
Again.

Speaker 6 (01:38:25):
So when when I was having a conversation and I
said no, no, no, nor pros no, not Aiden, eventually
forty six jumped into my hand.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
I'm like, well, here's one guy.

Speaker 6 (01:38:35):
And I think it's because because he showed up, just
like he's been showing up on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
And in fairness to Brillain, he has been consistent with
that with Aiden Hutchinson. If you're gonna pay a guy, look,
we say this about how your bias all the time.
If you're gonna pay a guy that much money, earn it,
Aiden Hutchinson, I think makes a difference in a lot
of ways that I don't always see. But Jalen Phillips
jumped out on the screen the other night, and that's
similar to what you're asking.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Give you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
I think it's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
I give it. He definitely jumped out, had a really
good night. I give you an example.

Speaker 6 (01:39:03):
It's not necessarily that QB hurries don't matter because they do.
But behind the QB hurries there needs to be something else.
I give you an example. The Los Angeles Rams like
they had eleven QB hurries or thirteen whatever it was.
The other night it was his dumb number. Eleven is
two shot. It was a dumb number. Sam Downald had
four interceptions. So if your QB hurries are leading to

(01:39:23):
these type of interceptions these players behind it, then you
know what the QB the hurries they mattered, but we're
not getting that behind it, so it's empty calories.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Realistically, Pistons won again last night, so good, so balanced.
Kate Cunney missed three games, didn't look like he missed
anything at all. Jalen Duran unbelievable yet again. Kate cunaham,
by the way, another game five straight with at least
twenty five and ten, the longest stretch for any Piston
in history.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Eight assists at the half Ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Game that's in It didn't even take that many shots.
He had more assists than he had shots taken. Well,
the Pistons win the East, no okay.

Speaker 6 (01:39:58):
But but they will not go lower than second. I
don't have them lower than second. I'm not putting them
over the Calves. Like I believe in Donovan Minchell. I
believe in what they've cried out. Evan Modleys took a
step last year being able to play on both sides
like that, so that Darius Garland was the missing glue
for what they were last in the playoffs. He was hurt, unfortunately,

(01:40:18):
it does not matter. Injuryes are part of the game.
If he's healthy, that may look a little bit different.
So I'm not going against the Calves and they're doing
a Guinness yourself, but Pistons, they won't be lower than
two for.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Me, and Detroit leads them by three. Before the season began,
what was our conversation. My expectation was top four in
the East. That might even change to a little bit
higher seed. Don't be surprised. If Detroit can stay healthy
and they're going to get Jade and Ivy back, that'll
be a conversation for a different day between all three
of us, all four of us, and how do they

(01:40:48):
work him in there?

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
But we'll soon find out, all right, glabor Tour has
accepted the Tigers twenty two million dollar offer. Do you
think he'll spend the entire your season with the Tigers.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
Explain that question.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
So Detroit offered he had till yesterday at four o'clock
and kol A broke the news.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
Apps.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Okay, so it was a qualifying offer. He signs for
twenty two million. One of four players to do that,
one of four, that's it to do it this year.
It just doesn't happen very often. Do you think he
will stay with the Tigers the entire season?

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
Got you? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Okay, I do. I don't. I think Detroit will have
some of their young guys move up and he will
be a perfect trade piece for them.

Speaker 7 (01:41:35):
I didn't think about that until you asked the question,
and I started thinking qualifying offer, and you start thinking
about in basketball terms, those guys wanted to becoming the
trade panistrade piece. And so now I'm just like, you know,
what is making me wonder a little bit more? What
are they cooking up now?

Speaker 4 (01:41:52):
SI?

Speaker 6 (01:41:52):
What could Okay, there's another question. I'm glad this is evolving.
What could you potentially get for labora tois like, where
is he at? What could you get from it?

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
You could get like a bullpen arm down the stretch
or something like that. I just I know they loved,
loved him last year. I've already mentioned a minus four
defensive run saved.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
Really the most consistent here we had too.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Yeah, but he really dipped off two twenty three in
the second half. This just doesn't happen very often. I mean,
they implemented the qualifying offer in twenty twelve. Fourteen of
one hundred and forty four have accepted it, which I
think is kind of unique and very strange. Like I said,
I was surprised that it was offered in the first place.
If you don't get it, then you get the compensatory pick.

(01:42:33):
So maybe I shouldn't have been surprised. I thought labor
Truss would have been able to find some type of
multi year deal that he didn't tells you something too,
all right, last one for you, are you buying or
you're selling? Michigan basketball is going to be better than
Michigan football.

Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
Ye season, Yeah, Misigs basketball is a much better team
than Michigan football. Like I legitimately have talked to Dusty
Mayett nauseam on the golf course about what he was building,
what he's doing, and then to watch the kind stations
that we had play out on the field, like, he's
got some players that are really like that, and in
basketball you don't need that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
Many to be that good.

Speaker 6 (01:43:06):
And I think early on they're showing you that they're
going to be one of the teams down the stretch.
You're talking about Michigan State, don't forget about Michigan. Michigan
State may be a little bit ahead of Michigan right now,
but not by much if any.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
So, yes, I think they're better Michigan.

Speaker 6 (01:43:20):
We're hoping, like the games of Michigan players right now,
I was hoping they beat Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
I was hoping that they can go out the USC
and win.

Speaker 6 (01:43:27):
I'm hoping that Ohio State and Ryan Day be stupid
again and do what they did last year in the game.
I'm hoping Michigan is not a lout of hope. Michigan
is not his team as well. You saw what he
did last year with He just threw a team together
last year.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
Yeah off for guys, he knew guys, he understood, he
threw a team together and got as far as he's
been the coach man. So I'm buying Michigan basketball for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
He's a really good coach. Remember Danny Wolf was the
guy that most people said, oh, he's the first round
PEP draft pick. He was just sent to the G League.
And Michigan did what they did. They played Middle Tennessee tonight.
Their next big game will be a few games from
now when they play who is now number twenty three, Auburn.
They don't play the schedule that Michigan State plays. Michigan
State still plays Duke, they still play North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
Thank Kentucky last night.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
They played Kentucky last night, and they beat Arkansas earlier
this year. So yeah, really big stuff, really big stuff,
and that prepares you. I'm not taking anything away from Michigan.
I think they're really good. I think they're really big.
I think they are multiple ball handlers. I think they're
they're tough to stop. Yeah, and they defend, and I
think that's really good. The thing that surprised me a
little bit was the game at Little Caesars against Wake

(01:44:35):
over time, they turn eighty five eighty four.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
Yeah, the turnovers, yeah, it was like eighteen. It was
seventeen turnovers.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Andame, it's tough to it's tough to overcome that. I
don't care how good yard.

Speaker 6 (01:44:44):
It's tough to overcome that good thing about that seventeen turnovers, like,
I'm glad it happened in November or October.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
I'm glad it happened because.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
You learn from it without question. Okay, Well, when we
get back, I mean later on, we're going to turn
it over to the heavyweights. That will take place five
to seven. When we come back, we get a mail back. Yeah,
we take the Mike Mounts. It's an inside joke. When
we come back, we'll do the mail bag, get some
super chats, and a whole lot more as we finish

(01:45:13):
things up here on the Brailan Edwards Show on a Wednesday,
after this from black.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
Rock, I may preview what Brailen's breakdown is going to
be because I got some.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
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Hey, we bet it is steely Dan. Good stuff. Here's
the stat of the day. Are you ready?

Speaker 7 (01:52:51):
Hows with ship?

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
But it comes with the question associated with stats. How
many three hundred passers have played against the Lions this year?
Three hundred yard pass How many guys have had three
hundred yards against Detroit this year? No looking it up, Brendan,
you can't do.

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
That, No, no, no, no. Did mahomes go with three hundred?

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I can't take a question for the answer. I say one,
one kolid. I want to say none, Brendan zero, one zero,
Zero's correct? How many one hundred yard rushers? Brennan one?

Speaker 7 (01:53:39):
I would say maybe one zero is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
They have not allowed a three hundred yard passer or
a one.

Speaker 7 (01:53:47):
Run guy is falling set?

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
The last time the Lions did that in the first
ten games? Oh it was nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 7 (01:53:59):
That's a.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Nice That is something else I'm not gonna take credit
for it. Gotta get the lines credit for it. Still,
that's a hell of a number, isn't it. They have
not allowed a three hundred yard thrower, Yeah, a one
hundred yard rusher to the first ten games of the season.
That's the first time since nineteen sixty nine that's happened.
That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
I was trying to find a way to discredit, but
I'll let you they're six and four.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
I'll let you breathe their offense. Their offense, ain't that.
I like the way you're thinking though, because I thought
the same thing. When I'm reading this, I'm like, yeah,
but dot dot dot, and it's hard to argue even
in their losses. Yeah, okay, I want you to think
about this for a second, and then I know we
gotta go in their losses. What's the worst loss for me?
It's Minnesota?

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
The defense's fault?

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
Offense played bat.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Was the defense the reason they lost to Philly?

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
Always they give up twenty seven to the Vikings.

Speaker 6 (01:54:53):
Yeah, you gave them twenty seven to jay Z McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
Okay, I didn't think the defense was that bad for
green Bay. Against Green Bay, I didn't think it was
that bad really against anybody outside of maybe if you're
gonna go the Vikings there, It's not like it was
Buffalo last year.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:55:09):
This isn't a fair thing to do. It's just a question.

Speaker 7 (01:55:11):
Good do it.

Speaker 6 (01:55:12):
What quarterback has been playing well the season that they've
played against? M HM, where's the quarterback playing what they've
played against? They haven't played against one. Jordan Loved to
a certain extent in game one, if.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
You want to say that, but that's too small a
sample size.

Speaker 4 (01:55:28):
And then Lamar and that was.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
Look they did play going into the season. Blinders on here,
blinders on Jordan Love was an MVP candidate. You and
I didn't believe it, But that's you talked about the
outside noise earlier with black quarterbacks. It's the same thing,
all right. And then we know Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
Yeah, Lamar still is Lamar. He's still Lamar, So I
give you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
And we know Patrick Mahomes, yes, And Baker Mayfield was
an MVP candidate before the Lions took him down. So
if your answers asked that question, Mike initial thought would
be Baker Mayfield because he was in that not it's early,
still in the MVP conversation. There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:56:10):
I got something else for that too, but I'm done.

Speaker 7 (01:56:11):
Do it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
Bring it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
I love that stuff. You know that.

Speaker 6 (01:56:14):
Baker Mayfield's best receiver in that game had a hamstring,
his second receiver broke his collar bow in that game,
and his other two receivers are hurt, like Baker Mayfield
trying to find Tedz Johnson and k that in August. Right,
So it wasn't like a full to your point, stats
matter because if you look at the lines right now,
the Lions are top ten and defense and offense actually,

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I would dare to say top five statistically both.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Yeah, I think it is top five. I think it
is depending on the stat but I mean in general,
the a lot of that is built off, especially offensively,
because what they did against Baltimore and what they did
get Chicago. Okay, so you've always said you got to
take it with the green of salt. I hear what
you're saying regarding the wide receivers. I think it's a

(01:56:59):
very valid point as long as we're going to as
long as we're going to do the same thing when
the Lions have injury problems too. What you did with
Sam Laporta against Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
OA.

Speaker 6 (01:57:08):
This is this is for you and this this came
from the individual we both worked with.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
Stan Oh, okay, there it is.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
Are you taking Tarryan Donald over Rocky? I seen.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Not with the way Rocky scene has played lately, and
there it is.

Speaker 6 (01:57:25):
So I say that to say this we're talking about. Oh, well,
the DB's were out for Lions.

Speaker 4 (01:57:29):
Actually I think the best dvs might have been playing well.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Remember Terry On Arnold lost his position, okay to Meet
Robertson and me. So it was I think.

Speaker 6 (01:57:39):
Arnold King also playing better because I think what's happening.
When I watched this, I'm starting to understand fully how
I think about Tarryon Arnold.

Speaker 4 (01:57:46):
And it's from this point of view.

Speaker 6 (01:57:47):
When you watch Rocky scene, when you watch Meet Robinson,
they understand the technique to cover NFL wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (01:57:55):
When I watched Tarry Arnold film, I'm watching a super physical,
super athletically gifted individual still try to cover cats like
he's at Alabama. Got you what you What works in
college doesn't work in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (01:58:10):
You have to watch film. You have to evolve. I
have to understand how to cover NFL wide receiver. When
I watch more tape, that's what I'm starting to see.
He's trying to get away with the same little techniques
and things. In college, you have to evolve when you
get into the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
You know what that could be. That could be, that
could be a teachers breakdown, it could be a tease
for hope, I didn't let anything out of the back,
or we've got one minute for mailback. My apologies. But
you know, when you start talking.

Speaker 7 (01:58:33):
With these guys, sometimes the conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
The head just goes in a lot of different directions.

Speaker 7 (01:58:37):
Go ahead, We do have two super chats we'll get
to before we wrap up. One from at Michigan Gold
Blue dass z T one g D with the four
ninety nine super chest says, do you guys think the
Pistons will finish top three in the East. Yes, I'll
send it to you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:58:52):
Yeah, we had a conversation that one d percent. I
appreciate the question. Yes, I think they will be second.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
To be honest, if I thought they'd finished top four
without this kind of start, why wouldn't I think they
were top three with this kind of start. Nobody expects
you to win eleven in a row. That is so
difficult to do, especially on the tail end of a
back to back. Are they getting some help? Yes, but
so what other teams could have really taken advantage of
Detroit's injuries and they didn't. Detroit has taken advantage of

(01:59:19):
other teams injuries like Trey Young last night. Yes, I
think they're a top three team, maybe not just in
the East, but perhaps in the West. Clearly, the best
team in basketball is Oklahoma City. Yeah, okay, if you're
watching basketball at all, clearly Detroit is right there with them,
not because the eleven game winning streak, but because of
the inclusion that they have, the vibe that they have together,
and the way they play the game.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
So I would say, yes, the one thing I was
trying to get out on this show, and I'm glad
you're reminded me is happy with the Pistons.

Speaker 6 (01:59:47):
And I don't use the word proud. I'm not there
dead but stoked about what the business is done. Because
coming into the season, Coming into the season, what was
a big conversation. It was about all the things that
were wrong with the East, and there was an opportunity,
right this was here. Dare I say that word here
is a nice window to take advantage right now. Like
the Pistons didn't come into the season messing around. They

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didn't come into the season playing around, stubbing the toe,
figuring it out in December, late December, early January.

Speaker 4 (02:00:13):
We'll figure it out, catch fire.

Speaker 6 (02:00:15):
Then they're doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing,
with certain individuals being out.

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
Certain coaches not knowing what the hell they're doing.

Speaker 6 (02:00:21):
That you got to give j B bigger staff in
that team a lot of they're cooking early.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
And she could not have said it better.

Speaker 7 (02:00:27):
We were at media day together. They really checked all
the boxes, the things that they said they wanted to do.
They're proving that it's more than just rhetoric and trying
to win that press conference, but it's literally, this is
who we are, this is what we're gonna do, this
is how we're gonna play. And they talked about it,
we want to improve. We felt like we left things
out there.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
Do you know you could tell they worked? They worked.
I love everything. You know, whatever you want to talk
about dogs hashtag dogs, go right ahead. I care about
how they play.

Speaker 7 (02:00:54):
You a dog.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Guy co commercial? Yeah, I mean that's I just think
I love the way that I love that everybody is connected.
And it was so cool to see like Jalen during
continue and Kate Cunningham is so flipping good, so effortless.
All right, we got to get out of here. Were this?

Speaker 6 (02:01:16):
This describes my fantasy team in a nutshell. That describes
my fantasy team in the nutshell. Aaron Rodgers the play
that he gets hurts on, he falls and throws some
bs and en zone. Guess who catches it with one hand?
Best catch I've seen this year, well maybe second or
third best his DK Metcalf. Yeah, he's five yards outside, Enzo.
Why can't you do that? Inside that Jesus.

Speaker 7 (02:01:34):
Christy briefly.

Speaker 4 (02:01:37):
Because I didn't see the play?

Speaker 12 (02:01:39):
Was this show?

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
How did the show go by?

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
With all him mentioning his fantasy football team?

Speaker 4 (02:01:42):
See, I got it. I didn't even see that play
until just now, Like, that's my fantasy team. But guess
who I got this week, ladies and gentlemen. It's the
son of a gun that didn't want to trade me.
Divide aam guess what? And now he's on a bye
week and Josh Jacob is hurt.

Speaker 7 (02:01:55):
I'm coming for you.

Speaker 4 (02:01:57):
I know you know I'm coming for you, it's all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
And I'm I'm but this makes me want to join
the league next year.

Speaker 4 (02:02:10):
Tell you, but I don't care anything about this fantasy
football I care about.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
That's the biggest bullshit I've ever heard. I don't care
anything about it. You have gotten the bug and it's going.
It's like a thick, it's dug inside your body. Agree,
we gotta go. There's two minutes after go ahead, Michael.
It's because it's Mike Werry.

Speaker 7 (02:02:30):
But the super chat, he says, do you guys think
MSU and U of him can make it to the
final four? That would be nice? Since the final four
is at Ford Field.

Speaker 6 (02:02:39):
I think so, you see what last year with that team,
This is a better team. I think he has another
year under his belt at this program we talked about
coaching is going to be with wins national championships in
college and white think you white?

Speaker 4 (02:02:50):
You think who's winning now? So yes, give me give
me that as a possibility.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
I thought the final four was next year Detroit. I
didn't know it was this year, Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (02:03:00):
Twenty seven?

Speaker 7 (02:03:00):
It's twenty twenty seven, that's what I said.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
Yeah, yeah, it was in Indianapolis.

Speaker 7 (02:03:04):
Yeah, it's twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
Yeah, yeah, so I don't know if you want to
check that far ahead this year, it would be awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:03:11):
They didn't even understand it, Moronta.

Speaker 7 (02:03:13):
All of us are gonna be there.

Speaker 2 (02:03:14):
Yeah, otherwise we'd all be done. We would be broadcasting
the brailn Ever is your live probaby?

Speaker 4 (02:03:19):
Come on? Oh yeah, I know, picking out in the
memory bank.

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