THE DETROIT LIONS ARE BACK!! | The Braylon Edwards Show | Monday, September 15th, 2025

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Speaker 4 (00:48):
Just try to wipe the smile off our faces, because
remember last week we were talking about how fun it
will be to watch the Lions beat the living snot
out of the Chicago and Ben Johnson, not not that
I wanted people to not that we wanted people to
say f Ben Johnson, just because we wanted to prove

(01:12):
everybody who kept saying all the coordinators, Oh my god,
what are we gonna do without the coordinators? How the
lion's gonna survive? How are those coordinators doing now? Oh
and four and outscored by fifty plus. Welcome everybody to
the Brailan Edwards show. Kool Aid, Ryan are with us. Yeah,
I am so happy today. I had a root canal earlier.

(01:34):
I didn't care. I didn't care Canta, I did not care.
All I cared about is that the Honolulu Blue and
Silver beat the living crap out of the Chicago Bears,
and everybody can shut up for just a little bit
about the coordinators. I was really happy for all of them,
all of them players and coaches, rightfully.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
So you got me hype over here. Man, I'm trying
to calm down as I get ready in a different direction,
but just already with the belt to ass that's how
we do it. No, it was. It was really good
to see. I think, you know. One of the big
things we talked about is we kept it out and
so all last week and what the loss looked like
against Green Bay, what they would have to do. We
both sided with Chicago. You said it would be a blowout.

(02:14):
I said would be a closer game. So looks like
I was wrong. But I think the thing that we
relied on most it's still the same roster. It's still
the same talent level. You still have these guys that
are voted preseason best at this position, second best at
this position, third best at this position, best group at
this position. That talent is still there, and sometimes it
just takes the second takes the first game. You get

(02:36):
back home, get the fourth field, appreciate the twelfth man
and four field. We heard you guys through the TV.
We appreciate you. And it looks a little bit better,
actually looks a lot better. So fun weekend for both
the teams on the desk, and I'm gonna start in
a different direction though, I.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Gotta bunch do that because we're gonna talk Lions. We
should three o'clock.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Breakdown. Baby, Listen, you know what player is getting broken
down to. Don't act like you don't know. It was
a second time we've seen magic in two weeks from
a certain player that everyone here was high on. So, uh,
it's gonna be fun in three o'clock. I'm actually super excited.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's gonna it's gonna be you know, hul Cogan's wrong.
I can't wait for that. But a lot of times
in sports, we we miss out on the classy aspect
of what many individuals how they handle themselves. And I
think we had a really good example over the weekend
in the UFC fight that I know you want to
get to and I'm glad you are. And I even

(03:34):
though I didn't watch the fight, I did watch a
lot of the postgame commentary and a lot of the
interviews with the participants, and it's refreshing, quite honestly, and
I wish more athletes would act this way explaining for.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Us one UFC involved as Dana White, but it was
a boxing match. Nonetheless, Canela Avarez undisputed to go on
Terrence Crawford undisputed, and just to talk about the fun
side of things, what a hell of a fight? What
the hell of a fight? Before we get there, Netflix, Netflix,
attention Netflix, this is coming directly at U.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
Netflix.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
You have to find a way to be able to
make the fight finish before one forty seven pm Eastern
Standard time. It's not because I'm forty two and I'm
old man. Because my brothers were over to once twenty
seven one's thirty. They both fell asleep too. Okay, I
was little dozy in the second third round of the fight.
I was able to maintain my balance around round four

(04:30):
and I finished out. But you guys gotta do better. Okay,
you fix you fix the streaming side of things like
the Mike Tyson and J Paul fight. You fix that,
thank you. Now you gotta fix the time trying to
sell that ad space. I know it's about the dollar
dollar bill. Start that fight a little earlier, okay, and
maybe maximize your package is a little higher because I'm
not trying to watch the fight two, one, four?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
What was the pre fight stuff?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
How much did that have to do with it?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
It's not about the pre fight because there was only
four I want to say it's a lot of fights though,
man three, But it's the ad space. It's all the
commercials in between. It's all the commercials doing. They were
taking commercials doring these fights realistically, So it figured out
that ass space. Maybe the sweet spot if you're gonna
have that much as space. Maybe it's two fights before. Yeah,
maybe it's two fights. Maybe it's two really really good

(05:12):
fights before let's get into this fight. We have been
in the era for the last twenty five years, and
even though he's one of the best I ever do it.
Floyd started this era, and it's the duck era. It's
ducking individuals. It's not fighting who's the best. And I'm
gonna duck this guy. I'm gonna go over here and
fight this guy that you know he's got some wins.
Those wins aren't against anybody, so I'm gonna beat him
and get another win. That means nothing. We have been

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asking and clamoring for the best to fight each other,
for the best, not to run. And finally, two individuals,
although Canela tried it for a while, two individuals. No
more ducking, no more hiding, no more running. They met
and for twelve rounds. They met in the middle of
the ring, smaller ring. They went toe to toe. They
stood toe to toe. And you gotta take your hat
off to Terrence Crawford. Terrence Crawford for a magnificent fight

(05:58):
like magnificent two on now right in forty two. And oh,
in the sense Canelo, who was the stronger fighter, he's
the big puncher guy didn't see it. He's the guy
that say he can box and do all things. He
got out boxed Terrence crawt for one. It's not about
that anyway. Although shout out to the Huskers who represented
Terrence Crawford. Last time. I'm gonna mention the Huskers because

(06:19):
we play them this coming week. It was about what
happened after the fight. A lot of words exchanged between
these two individuals over the past two years, especially over
the last six months. A lot of things said by Canelo.
You know, it is what it is. It's fight. We
won't have to talk about it. But after the fight,
after the fight, were he loses a unanimous decision.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
By the way, they were a little bit closer than
a lot of people thought. Many people thought it was
much more lopsided than the scores would indicate. But go ahead, sorry,
I agree.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
But at the end of the day, unanimous is unanimous.
I agree it should have been twelve sixteen, should have
been the numbers all the way around, but it still
got tananimous.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
No biggie.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
At the end of that fight, you saw the respect
out of Canelo. He goes up to Terrence Crawford, he
has conversation with him. They get the hugs, the little bs.
But it's what happened at the podium. You can see
Canelo he said, he said he was a hell of
a fighter. I take my hat off to him. At
no point could I figure him out. I didn't know
what was going on in that ring. Bud Bud Crawford.
Same thing at his press conference, same thing at the podium,

(07:18):
and he talks about the respect that he had for Carmelo.
Canelo had all their respect. But then the coolest thing
is at the end when all the conferences are done,
now people with their family. The way they do the
belts is they make belts specifically for you. So everybody
came to the ring with their eight belts. Their belts
they have their names on, They're designed by those promotions.

(07:41):
Crawford's supposed to keep those belts until they make the
new belts for Canelo and then give him back. But
what does he do at the end of the fight.
He comes over there in front of his wife, in
front of his kids, gives him his belts, gives him
a big hand, big handshake, big hug, and then you
just see the type of respect they had.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Four.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Where the country was last week and where the country
is what happened last week. We don't need to get
back into it for these gladiators who are paid to
kill each other respectfully. And I'm not mincing words because
people have died in the ring for these guys get
paid to kill each other. The humanity was in the
boxing ring. The gladiators had the most humanity as we had,
so it was just a great message to see them have.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Resciss love the sportsmanship.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
The sportsmanship was through another level. I just think for
me it happened at a time where it was needed.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well would I would say this. The thing that probably
I embraced the most was when Crawford said I didn't
want my managerial corner. I didn't want my team to
hand Canal with the belts. I wanted to hand the
belts myself. I think that is off the charts, class,
off the charts sportsmanship. I give both fighters a lot

(08:53):
of credit because Canal took a lot of punches on
the chin and kept coming. But Crawford proved that he
was the better fighter. But also both men, but especially Crawford,
proved that they're the better sportsmen. And I hope we
can all We always talk about sports on what we learn,
and I say this to anybody who would listen, I'd say,

(09:13):
you know, the thing about things are in sports. The
reason I like so much of life associated with sports
is because of what sports teaches you, what to do
and what not to do, how to get through certain
things with people you may not like. You're not gonna
like everybody work with. Now, you know, un fortunate because
I like the people I work with, but that's not
always going to happen. So it teaches you how to

(09:35):
get through the people you don't like, how to get
along with people you do like. It teaches you to prioritize,
It teaches you so disciplined, so many different things right
in sports. This was a moment where it wasn't just
oh my god, look at how hard these guys trained,
Look at what matters most of these guys. Look at
the sacrifices they may because all of you have made
sacrifices if you're in a sport. But then the sportsmanship

(09:58):
is exactly what you would hope anybody, like I hope
any dad would say about Crawford. I'm not a big
believer in having kids idolized athletess, no offense. My hope
is that it's their parents the first and foremost. But
if you're gonna look at a guy like Crawford and
say this is how you do things well, it's a
pretty damn good example of it, don't you think.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
One I'm saying, And that's why I think it resonated
so much. And you know, keep in mind that I
saw these clips the next day, because, like I said,
after that decision and was made it clear, I took
myself to bed. But when I saw the next day,
it was super dope, man, and it was a great
way to wake up. See that sportsmanship and then not
give any to Chicago Bears.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Well, there wasn't much sportsmanship on the part of Lions fans.
That's at Johnson leaving. Not that it matters a whole
lot to me. Okay, I would hope we would have
showed a little bit more class than what we did.
But people get emotional. I mean that's what sports is.
Sports is about emotion, and it was an embarrassing situation.

(11:00):
Auation for Ben Johnson and the Bears had to have been.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's the you don't want to use the
Jared Goff came out and saying he would have liked
the fans not to have necessarily gone to f Ben
Johnson route. Yeah, you get games. It's sixty one thousand,
that's what Ford Fields holes and other sixty one thousand
you're gonna have, Yeah, you're gonna have eight thousand knuckleheads.
You got eight thousand knuckle heads that are somewhere between
the age of seventeen. And it doesn't matter with the

(11:25):
ages when you.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Do fifty seven.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
That's why some of those guys are older. But a
couple of drinks, a couple of emotions, passionate, they get
the team and you get that. So you just gotta
explain to your kids. If it happens you go into
a sporting event, you know these things are possible. If
you hear that, Hey, don't pay attention, kid, Look you
know you don't worry about that. You want some nachos,
all right, cools gel.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
There, Yeah, the uh, the whole anks that people have
for Ben Johnson, I think rear to Tuggley head at
the end, there.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Is it gone?

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Is the question?

Speaker 5 (11:55):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, it's not. I think it'll
I think it'll come back every single time he comes back.
I really do, And I'm okay with that. It's just
how you handle it. People don't. I hope I would
hope people would appreciate what he did for the offense.
He didn't help himself. There's two really good examples. We

(12:17):
were just talking about the fight, right, These are two
really good examples. How do you handle leaving? I don't
think people had a problem with him going to Chicago.
Some may have. I think that's petty. I think it's
what he said Erin Glenn didn't say those things. If
Aaron Glenn led the Jets into Game two and the
home opener for the Lions and both teams are all one,
he would not have received that type of treatment. And

(12:39):
it's because of how he handled his departure and arriving
in New York more so than anything else. How Ben
Johnson handled his departure was one thing. It's what he
said in his press conferences about some of the specific
players that people took exception too. He should have known better,
he didn't, and to assert an extent, he paid the

(13:01):
emotional price.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
And I think the world we're looking for is grace
or grace gracious. You know, you look at Aaron Glenn.
He was gracious in his departure. You know you can
always hear that comment. Are you a graceful winner? Are
you not? Are you one of those guys and win
rubs it in people's faces, are a butthole about it.
Grace is what we were looking for. And Ben Johnson
was not graceful. And the way he left, he wasn't
graceful in the comments that he made and the little

(13:23):
jazz and the little things it was. It was cute
and petty. And for you to build the relationship over
the past four years with the Detroit Lions, the fan based,
the players and everything else and then kind of be
a little you know, ungraceful if you will. That's what
we're talking about right now.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Do you think Dan Campbell recognized that and deep down
inside took note of it. And thus, I don't first
of all, I don't. Let me just get this straight.
I don't believe in the whole well they ran it
up bull crap. You play your ones, I'm playing my ones.
Who's ever best is going to continue to play. We're
gonna pound the rock where he keep keep playing. We're
gonna be keep playing Lions football until you call off

(14:00):
the darks. As far as I'm concerned, when you're getting trucked,
it's that team's responsibility to say, here we go. I'm
gonna put my two's in and then I follow the lead.
It's not the winning team's responsibility.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, people
out there just a little upset, maybe that he kept
his guys.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
In a little longer.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
This is around the time period where guys can get injured.
You had the lead secure, the game was won. But
we want to be honest. They missed some opportunities. They
should have scored seventy. This is no disrespect to the Lions.
They played an amazing game, but I'm saying they left
a lot of players out there. This could have been
a seventy point. So to say that they they were
trying to run the score up, I don't think that's
what happened.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I don't. I just don't know.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I don't buy that at all.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Last year the Lions played the Bears twice.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
It wasn't considered running the score up when Ben Johnson
was on that Sidelline, because I definitely saw them do
it to some people.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Absolutely Titans, Yeah, the Jags, Jags, but last year they
didn't like that division. That's what was That's exactly right,
and take advantage of it. Get right. Last year, the Lions,
as always played the Bears twice. YEA, they scored twenty
three points in one game. They scored twenty three points
in one game, and they played thirty four in the other.

(15:11):
So fifty seven total points in the two games against Chicago,
and they went out and put up fifty two on them,
A fifty burger on them, as Kevin Burkhart might say,
fifty burgerround him in Game one. That is sending a
message not to the Bears, but maybe to the rest
of the NFL, maybe the rest of the division, that says, look,

(15:32):
he may be gone, but our offense is still potent.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah, offense is definitely still poting.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Man.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
I wish it was Kevin Burkhart in the game and
not Kenny Alford and Jonathan Willman. But that's a wholenother
conversation just starting.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm sorry, did interrupt. How do you get I tweeted
this out with.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
This particular game, How do you get tell?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Somebody? Please tell me Jonathan, Somebody tell Jonathan Willeman, like
you should be in the boot. Somebody tell Jonathan Vilma.
The Dion Branch played for Patriots in Seattle and was
a wide receiver and retired in twenty and twelve. Fourteen
something like that. Brian Branch as I, as I tweeted,
is one of the best at his position. How do

(16:11):
you get those two mixed up? Not once, not twice,
but three times?

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Because this is the CBS broadcast used to doing CBS games,
and maybe they were a little bit lazy. Maybe again
that it was a Fox bro miscussing very right, right,
I don't know. He's a year older than me. I
know the exact moment that Dion Branch retired, though he
retired in twenty ten, when the Jets beat the Patriots
in the playoffs. I know that for a fact because
he caught us non gracious winners. He caught us non

(16:38):
gracious winners.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Okay, all right, I thought I had looked that up
earlier today. Maybe that's when he caved, that's when he
was done playing mentally. But twenty twelve was his last season.
We played ten games for New England.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Do me a favorite. Throw up those keys to victory
if you can get a chance.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
And by the way, just so people are clear, I've
made plenty of mistakes. Yeah, you gotta correct them right away.
You and I I have done television for a long time.
There's a producer in your ear, there's a director in
your's and you say something, they feel free to Hey,
by the way, or I might write this down it's
Brian and show you because you.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Come back and you say, real quick, my apologies Brian
branch on that.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, because we get caught up in it. Not No
one's perfect for final a lot. You're gonna make some mistakes,
but you can't do it twice first on the play,
then on the replay and nobody tell you, and then
not come back and tell.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
Especially player man when it's in the stepish player, especially
like Brian branch who Braylan's been on it for now,
I think two years saying that that's our best defensive player.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
You gotta get that right, at least correct it.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
He's an absolute badass. He's one of the best safeties
in football.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Just look at Don't get me into that. Just don't
because you know thats my guy. Last week he gets
an interception pick six, and obviously he had to come
back because of some other stuff. But he's just a
guy that makes the play when that play is necessary.
I don't care what part.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Of the game is.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
It can be at the beginning of the game. As
you saw two years ago in Kansas City. It can
be at the end of the game and it can
be when, but it's whenever you need that point. On
Friday Ship we talked about keys to the game. We
talked about it all week. Keys to the game. What
does this game look like? And it wasn't a hard game.
We talked about it all week. The offensive line, these
are what we came up with. We had o line
has to man up. And what that meant, more so
than anything, is offensive line is an attitude. Run broncking

(18:20):
is an attitude. Pass pro is an attitude. Yeah, you
get the communication, things worked out, but you put a
hat on a hat, you get the physicality about yourself
and you try to get those guys to go backwards.
And that's what you saw in the game. To the
tune Jared Goff clean as a whistle. How many sacks
did they give up? None?

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Only five Pressurenut Burger. Five pressures. That's it. Oh and
by the way, you're one hundred percent right. That's their identity.
Like we can talk about Jamior Gibbs and Jamison Williams
and I'm on Ross Saint Brown. All we want the
Lion's identity is the offensive line and if they ain't working,
if it doesn't work, okay, this is not a dire
Straits tune. If it ain't working, that's a problem. That

(18:59):
is a deep roof what problem? Why is Chicago week?
Their offensive line is not good?

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, the offensive line, and they make for those guys
to be veteran players. And I said this last week
when I was talking to Anson, he was arguing about
Caleb and this, that and the third and I don't
think he played particularly well. But I said, for you
that invested all this money on these all pro offensive linemen,
these three guys you bring, including Joe Tooney, all pro
out of Kansas.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
City, then Jonah Jackson, the former, you.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
Can't have eight penalties in what they have first week.
You can't have what they did this past week was
more miscommunication issues for the Chicago line. But anyway, they
also one hundred and fifty plus rushing yards for Detroit Landet,
Like I said, zero sacks. Then we talked about Johnny Moe.
You bought it up coordinator, the coordinator, all the coordinator,
all the coordinator. Even last we got talked about a
little bit. It's gonna be interesting Johnny's never been in

(19:46):
this space to fix. You know, Detroit Lions week won
the week two. Can he will see well, Johnny Moe,
I think I would say he figured it out. He
used the weapons that he had, and also he got
the run game going. And not just necessarily with the run.
They had some shallow crosses to Jamo earlier, they had
some small passes Khalif Raymond sanloport one Hund. You don't

(20:07):
have to run the ball to establish the run, thank you.
Pass This is what they did. And now you force
the defensive line. Now that they're back a little bit,
Now you have a little bit of room, and now
you can have some of the success to the tune
of Jamier getting ninety four, David Montgomery finishing with fifty seven,
especially in the second half. So they established the run
by establishing short passing and then coming back to it.

(20:29):
And then what does the run do. Well, it gets
passes down the field, it gets passes over vertical. There
we go. So they established the run and then also
on the defensive side of the ball, you have to
get to catfish. According this is this is what they
call him. This is what they call it. I don't
call him the catfish, but you know it's fun. They
beat they won, so we'll call him at once. You

(20:50):
gotta get to the catfish. You gotta utilize it because
he'll give you the ball. This is Caleb Williams. He
will give you the ball if you get to him.
Once you get off script one. And what happened. They
got to them four times. Four times. They got to them.
They pressured them all game. They didn't allow them to
established to run, and you got to them with the
crowd noise. You saw Caleb in the second half just
kind of yeah, trying to figure it out. They got

(21:11):
to him on the defensive side of the ball. They
got to him, And congrats to Hutch. You know, I
know what it is to be out, to have a
major injury and to come back and you know, figure
out if I'm going to be that guy. I know
I'm that guy, but still have a little bit of
that in there. When you get that first play, which
for him as a defensive end is a sack. For
me it would be a touchdown. When you get that
first play, it resets your mind to okay, okay, okay,

(21:36):
this is what it feels like, and it expeciates.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
The Yeah, yeah, Look, I'm not going to stick up
for Caleb Williams. The only thing I would say, and
I'm a huge believer, it's it's not always quarterback sacks,
it's quarterback worees, it's quarterback hits her. Rich Gannon of
NFL Networks say this the other day or NFL radio
the other day. Yeah, But the one defense I would

(21:59):
have of a Williams is the interception by Kirby Joseph
and the celebration afterwards, which was phenomenal, by the way,
but the interception that Kirby Joseph had. If you look,
Kurt Warner broke this down. There are three receivers within
hashmarks of one another. So to me, like, I don't

(22:20):
want to blame it all on Ben Johnson. Maybe somebody
ran the wrong route. It's unfair to sit there and
start slinging arrows at an offense that I'm not familiar with.
But Caleb Williams is looking left on the pick. He's
looking left. All three guys are in the same area.
He's flushed pressure right, good job by the defensive line,
rolls to his right.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Throw.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Stupid throw. I don't disagree with that you throw it away.
But it's easy for me to say throws and it's
picked off if those receivers are running their proper routes.
Because there's no way on God's green Earth that any
offensive coordinator, any head coach, any wide receivers coach, anything
that has to do with the offensive side of the football,
is telling three guys to be in the same area.
It's messed up.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
It's definitely sa I'm going on right now. I could
care less about what's going on down there for Kayler
Williams Chicago Bears. But you bring up an interesting point.
Two weeks ago when they were playing against the Minnesota Vikings,
Kayler Williams got a lot of uh, he got a
lot of negative comments or critique about the wide open
pass the DJ Moore was. DJ Moore was wide open
and if you would have hit him, DJ Moore scores
a touchdown. Correct, That's not the route DJ Moore had.

(23:22):
DJ Moore had an out route. It's a mirror side
concept when you watch the backside of that particular play
out route, fade route, out route and fade route. Well,
he ran his own route because he saw open space.
So now Kayler Williams, who's expecting an out route. He's
looking to throw the out route you take off and go.
So now I got to adjust my arm and throw
on you see what I'm saying. The mad they made

(23:45):
it all about Kayler Williams and say, how do you
missed that pass?

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I love the teaching moment.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
See if put him in a bad spot.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
So it's awesome stuff. I did steal a Brayln Edwards
moment yesterday when I was watching this game with some
friends and they were and they were up set about
certain a certain wide receiver, and I said, hold on,
how do you know that the wide receiver next to
him wasn't supposed to clear out? Or how do you
know that that throw was so bad? It was a

(24:13):
Jared Goff pass, okay, and it looked like he short
armed it for sure, Okay. But I said, how do
we not know that that quarterback was expecting that receiver
to run it, specifically at a certain yardage? I said,
And I gave Braylen credit because you have to. Brailan
tells me all the time in practice, He's like, I
got to run at eight and come back to seven.

(24:33):
I got to run it to a certain point on
the football field, so my quarterback knows where to throw it.
It's very precise. And I likened it to a golfer.
If you play with the pro, what are you shooting
that's about one forty? Is it about one forty or
is it one thirty seven? Yeah, because there's a certain
those guys are that precise. You were so precise with

(24:53):
your routes. Your quarterbacks know you were so precise with
your routes. I don't know if he's Jared Gosfaualt or
the receiver's I just wanted to bring that point out.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
I appreciate that. Man whoever thought it was this past weekend,
they got the job done. Oh man, they got the
job done and it was fun to watch. This is
the conversation we were having last week when we were
so confused about the green Bay game. Like, it wasn't
that they lost the Green Bay and it wasn't that
they even gave up sacks to the green Bay package.
It was the fact that it just looked nothing like
we were familiar with over the past three years. This
past game, this is what we're familiar with. It was

(25:23):
never about them losing the Green Bay. It was that
the identity was completely botched. But it is game one
and I think we can be held accountable to maybe
overreacting a little bit too. I will say this on
this show today, maybe shep will I know I'm not.
I am not going to bring up Marcus Davenport. I
refuse to do it. It's too much positivity surrounding this show.

(25:45):
So we want, we want you, but but you see
it sneaky. You see it sneaky. We want you guys
to have fun today, So we won't talk about Marcus
Davenport and that thing till tomorrow. We'll push that back.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
So for the five keys the Bralin had, there's a
check mark. Actually the only one is get off the field.
On third down. They were seven for thirteen on third down.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
And there's an asterisk to that too, because you're absolutely
correct there were seven to thirteen. Talking about Chicago Bears.
They were good on third down, but how we got
an asterisk right there. They were zero to two on
fourth down and both those fourth downs were major. The
first fourth down. Shout out to Teleak Williams shouts good.
Shout out to your first round. Really Leak Williams for
being three point thirty and still being able to let

(26:24):
me go ahead and knock that pass down because I
tell you like this, DJ Moore was wide open on
that fourth down. DJ Moore is wide opening that fourth down.
He's gonna come behind the window. And I think at
that time the Lions were up seven. It wasn't a blowout.
Then it was seven and fourteen. He knocks that pass
down and get the ball, and also they held him
again on fourth down. Shout out to the bridge sign
up front. They didn't win necessarily the third down, but

(26:45):
they won fourth down, and that was even bigger.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Was gonna say something, you know, I was gonna say,
you want to talk about that identity and you know,
so I can where all of the victory stuff got
the victory Lions okay, got the gear on, but the
big money players made the big plays.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
That's what we want to see.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
The guys at Kirby, like like Jaimo who just got
paid golf.

Speaker 8 (27:09):
Freaking I thought we weren't bringing up Davenport positive. We're
talking about the big money pull up, no offense, and
you're one hundred percent right, by the way, no offense.
I don't care about the big money guys. I cared
about three specific players.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay, No, I cared about Ratledge, Glasgow and Mahogany. That's
what I was thinking to those are the three guys
that and none of them are big money players. They didn't,
as braylan Is astutely pointed out, no sacks, only five pressures.
The offensive line looked completely different. Now, is that because

(27:45):
Chicago's defense isn't as good as Green Bay's defense? It
could be.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's a mixture of things.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
But I'm not going to take anything away from something
that they just accomplished for the first time in history,
in franchise history, over five hundred total yards, five hundred
and eleven five passing touchdowns and two rushing touchdowns, a
franchise record eight point eight yards per play. And Jared
Goff say what you want about him. Okay, I'm not

(28:10):
saying he's Jalen Hurts. I'm not saying he's Patrick Mahomes.
We understand what he is. I don't know why it
is our fan base can't understand, like you expect him
to be somebody he's not. He's not Josh Allen. He's
not gonna be Lamar Jackson. So understand what he is.
That's why the offensive line is so important. But when
you look at Jared Goff, he now has five NFL

(28:32):
starts in which his team has scored fifty points or more.
That is the fourth most in NFL history. Okay, tied
with Peyton Manning man behind Drew Brees, behind Lynn Dawson,
shout out to the old timer, and and behind Tom
Brady who's got eight ten.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
IM and Rock called Jared Goff one of the best
quarterbacks in this league.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
And that's where yes, I want to say, so did
Dan Campbell. Guys and Dan.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
Campbell do their thing, But you're right, Yeah. For me,
I needed to hear Jared Goff's name. I needed to
hear Amaraj's name. I needed to hear it turnover, I
needed to hear it. The secondary was one of the
things that Dan Campbell's called that identity of the squad.
And when those guys are doing their thing, I believe
it helps guys it Rattlic and TYLERK Williams and Isaac Tesla.
I think it makes it so much easier on them,

(29:20):
and then we actually get to see the production that
they are bringing to the field on a play by
play basis rather than all the pressure being on them.
When you get those top dogs doing their thing, I
think it's great. And kay, I say KG, shout out
Kelvin Shepherd. He found a way to manufacture that pressure
from really all three levels in that game.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Well, the only thing I'd say about Kelvin Shepherd is
against Green Bay. And I know it's hard for us
to look back at that because they scored on their
first three possessions. Yeah, big plays were a huge part
of that. His defense. I mean, they did a really
good job of stop in the run against Green Bay.
But his defense wasn't. Now this is a low fruit

(29:59):
wasn't horrible. You knew that it was going to improve, Okay,
you knew the pressure had to come. I think part
of the difference was they got home with their pressure
against green Bay. They did not It's not like they
didn't blitz against green Bay. They did, they just didn't
get there. They got there against Chicago.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Yeah, they made it more of an effort, you know,
more of a point. I think everything around. That's what
Cooley said. You want to see your big dogs. You
want to see Jamior Gibbs score, You want to see
almar Ra Saint Brown. That touchdown at the end of
the half. When you have these things, you get it
more of excitement too. And also when you got the
offense doing what they do now, it gets the defense invigorator.
Now the defense is like, oh, hell yeah, let's go
out there and make some plays. They're turning up for us.

(30:38):
Last week they didn't have anything moving offense gave the
defense exactly nothing, and so now the defense is trying
to go out there and make something happen. And they
were on the field too much, got put in some
bad spots and it was an overall just a bad
game all the way around. Fast forward, they got back home,
they got confident, you know, offensive line was able to jail,
they were able to get the communication going on being
at home, and Jared goff Man, he led that team

(30:58):
and to a great offen defensive output, great offensive production.
It was just a really, really really good win. Well,
we can't do we can't be too high after the death.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Right after, we're.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Gonna have some fun to debt because of how it
last week was. Will have fun, but we can't get
too high, just like we were so high last week,
going what look bad? What'll look bad? Now here we
are less than seven days later and we're like, well,
excuse me. Eight days later and it's like, oh my god,
they're going back to the super Bowl. We gotta stay
even killed. It was a good win against a team
that's in the division. It's a good division arrival. But
you know, there's room, there's room to work.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Well, that's why, to our credit, I think this show,
this entire show. I don't say just you and me,
think Ryan. I think kool Aid said the same thing.
We're not freaking out. We haven't lost our confidence in
this team. I'm sorry. Man. Eventually, talent wins. It wins
at every sport. Find me a team that won a

(31:49):
division or a championship in general that didn't have talent.
Coaches can't do it by themselves. Players can win despite
a bad coach or an average coach. I suppose, I
suppose you could use examples like Baltimore and Brian Billick.
You could use Dallas and Barry Switzer if you wanted to.

(32:10):
There have been coaches who have reached a certain level
and you're like, man, I'm a little surprised. I didn't
think he was that that good. You know, how does
Cleveland win a division? With Sam Ratigleano. Okay, whatever, but
you need all of that. Okay, you need all that stuff,
but you gotta have talent, man, if you want to
cross the goal line, if you in the end line,

(32:31):
the finish line, and the Lions have way too much
talent for people to just say, sorry, I don't see
this team winning more than five games. Seriously, what kind
of drugs are you on? Yeah, unless there's a major.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Injury, you know, we're gonna knock. We're gonna knock on
win and that like that, and every was even said
kudos to Johnny mo. Kudos to Johnny Moe in this situation,
it wasn't necessarily the output. Obviously, the yards are ridiculous,
to touchdowns are ridiculous, the numbers are ridiculous. But it's
the fact that he got everybody involved. But it wasn't
overly doing it. It wasn't out of pocket, it wasn't uncomfortable.

(33:06):
He wasn't trying to force some situations like everybody got
to eat, but they got to eat within the floor
of the game. Jamier Gibbs got to eat when it
was his time. Amar Ra Saint Brown was hot. He
and Jared Goff, they were cooking. This is what it was.
Jamo had to be away and my man, Jamo, congrats
on that to you. You know why, because the attitude
that we talked about with the offensive line. Guess who

(33:26):
was given that attitude last week? Did you not see
Jamo when Jamiir Gibbs ran and I think they were
backed up. They were on the Detroit Lions maybe twelve
or thirteen when Jamiir Gibbs gets the first down on
the outside, Jamo took two guys on the block. You
showed me that, We showed you that he took two
guys on that block. So even in the loss, Jamo
was out there doing what he's blocking for his team.
He's making sure look no, no, no, no, I gotta do

(33:47):
my job. My job is the block on is the blackness.
To catch one is to catch. Well, it was time
to catch the ball.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
You know what he wasn't doing. You know what he
wasn't doing. He wasn't doing what Travis Kelsey was doing.
Travis Kelcey, just go back and host your iPod. You're
your podcast, will you please. Patrick Mahomes scores on a
touchdown in the Game of the Week against Philly and
what is Kelsey doing throwing his helmet on the sideline.
I mean Brian Branch throwing a Green Bay Packer helmet. Okay,

(34:14):
Travis Kelsey's doing this stuff. He's grabbing his helmet and
he says he slams it on the ground like that
and says, I'm sick of this blank to his coaches.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Because he's not getting the ball because.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
He's not on the field.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
Well, maybe if you would be dropping passes in the
end zone. Tell him, maybe if you wouldn't drop past
an end zone. He put the ball right here. If
you catch that, Travis Kelsey's going to fall in the
end zone.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
But here's what you're missing. His celebration after the first
down catch was really good. I wish you would remember
that and dwell on that, because that's what he wants
you to. That's what when he has his podcast, that's
what he's gonna do. He's gonna talk about that stuff.
I think he's a selfish baby, and it drives me Nutch,
But that's that's me. Let's push it aside. Let's focus
on what the line did and what the lines did well.

(35:01):
To your credit, you're right, Jamison Williams blocking downfield was
also he only had two rocks, by the.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Way, and he made the most of them because he
went over and yard.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Absolutely, it was incredible. Brock Right was involved. How good
was brock Right when we talked about Samuel Porter?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
How good was he?

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Kalif Ramon found the way and then go ahead say.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
It, look you here. I'm glad that we got ahead
of the curve. When they drafted number eighteen, I said,
moving up two picks, going to get a guy that's
a fourth he's the fourth receiver on the team. Yeah,
he's got some some some size, Hea, he's got some intangibles.
That's a that's a big bold move, Brad, he's gotta

(35:43):
work for you. Two games and two top ten catches
and the first one was one and the second one
should have been one. To just catch finished number five
for him. But Isaac on whose list, well, yes, the
one they catch of the week. Who's list doesn't matter
catching a week, I'm agreeing you catch the week. Okay,
But even that wasn't forced. Even that play, which will

(36:05):
break down, I can't wait. We got about twenty four minutes,
but even that play wasn't forced.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
That's twenty three thirty too long. But but let me
ask you this, and I tweeted this out yesterday too.
How come he's not playing more.

Speaker 9 (36:21):
Now?

Speaker 4 (36:21):
That's easy for me to say. That's why I wanted
to ask you specifically. I should have asked you before
I tweeted it. But you don't answer my phone calls.
The question is no, I'm just sorry. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
That's how in the world.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
How in the world is he not more involved? He said,
I'm just kidding. By the way, folk, he answers, he
answers my texting phone calls.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
I'm just being asking, said, they scored fifty two points
and they really could have scored seventy. At the end
of the day. It takes time to, you know, get
these guys acclimated to what the system is.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
It.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
He's a really good player, but right now, after what
happened last week, you're just lowing into it. All right, cool,
we gotta get we gotta get the money.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
So you're okay with it? Hell yeah, right.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
You got a running back that's about to be a
twenty five million dollars running back. You have a wide
receiver that's a thirty three million dollars wide receiver. Another
wide receiver. It as a twenty. I know money doesn't matter,
but it does win.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
No, it does. I didn't say that. Oh, but you're
gonna have three receivers no matter what. But I want
to know why he's not out there playing instead of
With all due respect and Kliff Raymond played well yesterday,
but why isn't he more involved in the offense, like
you're you're settling me down, which is great, easing the
way into it just doesn't get a lot of snaps.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
It surprises me because I think for what they have
him doing, he's a decoy right now, and they don't
want to waste decoy reps, if you will, Like I
think they're actually waiting to put some meaningful plays together
for him. Like right now, the route running is being
done by amar Ra Saint Brown and Jamo, you know,
the little underneath stuff is being done by Sam Laporta
and not even right but Sam Laporta, Cleiff Raymond is
coming in for the stuff. Where Oh my god, where

(37:49):
is everybody? Yeah's this guy up? Number eleven is wide open.
He's doing that stuff when he comes in. He's a
target when he comes in, people will pay attention to it.
That's good.

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Of course we were Central Michigan. Equals drinking.

Speaker 11 (45:07):
I mean we had to drink after.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Did you drink more before touchdown?

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After?

Speaker 13 (45:12):
So we walked from the golf course to the garage
bar okay, and I looked.

Speaker 11 (45:17):
In there and I was like, twenty eight nothing. My
BET's cooked already. The first court.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
It's like the middle of the.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Second Wait, what was your bet?

Speaker 5 (45:25):
You They were covering sad. I told him, are you
kidding me? I told him I had to have faith
in my ship. I told him not to. How would
you have faith in the team that doesn't pass the
ball past one yard? They were running teams.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
This is a perfect example of why you do not
bet with your heart. I had to back my team.
He said, your team is not backing you, Ryan, Your
team is not good. And by the way, that team
is my team too because I went to school there.
Just because we went to school there doesn't mean that
we have to be loose with our money.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Hey, you were really from two thousand and five to
twenty fourteen, I was betting on my institution and as
you know, that was a little bit of our downtime. Yeah,
thanks for the information.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Sorry, I mean, you teach me something every day. I
must have missed out on that opportunity to teach you
you do not bet with your heart. You gotta bet
with your head, buddy.

Speaker 13 (46:17):
It was seven dollars and I was like, you know what,
we're here still, but I made I made all my
money back because and then some with Ter Crawford uh no, uh, Travis,
our social media manager here or whatever. He told me
to bet some Lopez dude in UFC the underdog and
he won by a knockout in the second round.

Speaker 11 (46:35):
So I was like, there you go, Travis.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
So when you're on your own your troubles, but when
you're using somebody else's advice.

Speaker 11 (46:42):
I did. I did bet Marlin's money.

Speaker 13 (46:44):
Line on Friday though, because the Tigers came in at
four am, and the Tigers suck when they come in
at four am.

Speaker 11 (46:50):
Look at you and I was like, that was it's.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
The home team to do it. But you know, a
win is a win is a win.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
I guess, so we're clear rights. Bet against the flight,
he's bet on a baseball game, he's bet on a
football game.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
He'll be broke and.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Bran six months, right, doesn't have much of a problem.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
Side note, you asked me a question, Sev not to
cut you off. You asked my isa Tesla. He gave
me about five six seven minutes to kind of think
about it. I think the reason he doesn't play as
much right now. Once again, this is just my opinion.
I don't know if it's true or not. He's still
a raw receiver. He's still a raw receiver as it
relates to the ranks. Last year he was raw at Arkansas.
He's coming raw as an individual. He has the talent,

(47:32):
he has the upside, he has the ability, has the potential,
but you're still trying to work him into that space
where you completely feel confident and comfortable with him just
running out the field and being out there in a
whole drive, a whole series, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yeah, I understand that I'd like him to be out
there more than just a handful of snaps. So I'm
not asking for them to target him as the number
one option. I would like him to be out there more.
You say, Raw, I'll believe you are just about everybody
coming out of college.

Speaker 11 (48:01):
Raw.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
No, because you're trying to put him in a three
wide receiver spot when last year he was a fourth
wive receiver on his team. Usually guys coming into the
NFL as a three, you were the one where you're
coming from, and you're learning to be a three. That's
where your skill set is taking you.

Speaker 13 (48:14):
Ain't.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Maybe you move up, But he was a four last year.
You know, he was a three at the college he
was at before that. So it takes a second, I think,
to implement to where just where Johnny Moe feels comfortable
with if the drive runs it's eleven play drive, he
feels confident that all eleven play he's out there. He's good,
he'll be down in He's fine. He doesn't need to
you know, by the way, remind me what I do
on this play. Remind me what the adjustment is if

(48:37):
it's covered two on that. I think he's in that
phase now they can spot him. You know, you put
him in there runner favor, right, He'll do it with
the best of them in the NFL right now, So
you just still getting his feet we as a every
play wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Good, good explanation, appreciated very much. Breaking news, go ahead, cool.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
Yeah, yeah, yep. You gotta see if they're on the
back wall.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
The Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy is luckly to play Sunday because.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Of an ankle sprain.

Speaker 7 (49:02):
That's via head coach Kevin O'Connell and siut off to
the top of the show, who put that out first
on social So the young quarterback will not play after
having one of the worst games across the NFL, and
you get Carson Wentz in this place instead.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
I know you had some words about Carson Tusa.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Well, he's the guy I thought the lines could have
gone out and at least entertained signing as a backup.
Kyle Allen's fine. I suppose Carson Wentz gives you perhaps
a little bit more confidence. We'll see how he does
for Minnesota against Jake Browning, who's in for Joe Burrow,
who is out because he's gonna have surgery on turf toe.
He's going to be out at least at least three

(49:43):
months or three three month, three weeks, three months, right,
three months, I believe is what they said. Won't be
back until late November twenty seventh, and that's when they're
hoping about around against Pittsburgh or against Baltimore. Excuse me,
that means the Lions will get Cincinnati with Jake Browning

(50:03):
in a few weeks. Three months. I don't think there's
no way it can be three months. It's got to
be let's see September, October. It's got to be about
two and a half or so on a good on
a rapid. And it's something maybe we can talk to
doctor Jeff Pierce on Thursday about.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
I can't wait to watch the thirty for thirty and
it talks about how the Cincinnati Bengals wasted Joe Burrow's careers.
And I know they paid all the offensive guys, so
they gave them that weapons, but it's a lot more
than just paying a bunch of you know what they
didn't do though, offensive line right, offensive line.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
It really is amazing and they should have known better
because Anthony Munoz was one of the greatest time tackles
of all time and a wonderful gentleman if you've ever
met him. They were able to take those teams to
a super Bowl. Okay. The problem that too many front offices,
I believe have is they feel like they can do

(50:51):
almost patchwork with offensive line. It's almost an afterthought, and
I have I probably value it two months. I probably
value it too much. I think it's really important. I
have no problem if you tell me he's the best
guard in college football, and he's in your scout's telling
me he's I have no problem taking them as a

(51:12):
first round pick, Whereas friends of mine in the past,
especially those who played in the NFL, have said, look,
you can get those guys in the third round, and
I don't know if that's necessarily true. I want I Look,
it's probably more at the end of the first round.
But if you're telling me I get the equivalent of
a David di castro at Jeff Harding's somebody of that

(51:33):
ILK Okay, I'm I want that guy, Zach Martin. I
want that guy because I'm gonna be able to plug
him and keep him there for a long long time,
and he's going to help a lot of my Game's
gonna out my passing game and my running game. There's
a lot of things that I think are really beneficial.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
At the end of the day, the only only position
on the line. This is no disrespect at the end
of the day, it's the right guard position that you
can patch with. You can bring in the right guy
every year if you vet him and make sure your
left guard. Your left guard. Do you want to make
sure you either paid him some good money or you
draft him. You left tackle need I say more. You
see what happened with Pine sul and what he is
for the Lions. Can't do that. Look at what the
center position is. Look at what we talked about in

(52:10):
terms of Frank ragnow the success of Jason Kelsey with
the Eagles. If you want to have success, you got
a draft to pay those guys at those four positions.
The right guard. You can figure it out.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Is that part of the reason you think Ratlick eventually
will be a center? Yeah, because right now he's at
right guard. Okay, that's a great explanation. I appreciate we.

Speaker 6 (52:27):
Do have.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Now kool Ay just said, perhaps one of the worst games.
I'm not saying they're giving up on him. He's played
eight quarters of professional football. Seven have been bad.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
I don't know if this is out because of the injury.
Now once again I don't know speculation. Jay Z is
a guy that can run. They playing the Bengals, who
has no defense. If you're saying that he can't play,
he can't be a quarterback because of an angle spring,
I don't know about that. I think this is more
about how it's looked, how it's looking. You're pulling a guy,
and understand potentially pulling, but this can be two fo one.

(53:01):
There is a little bit of ankle spring two. Let's
get him off. Let's see what Carson Wentz can do.
Because the season's young, there's a lot of legs left,
and those seven of those eight quarters, seven of those
eight they don't look like what you would want them
to look like what you replaced last year.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
That is an early hook on a young player.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
This is a different day and age. You know this
is Kevin O'Connell who comes from Sean McVay. Those guys are, hey.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Yeah, if I'm giving you the starting job, you better
do it. I was thinking about you last night because
watching that game, he's after his pick, yeah, his first picks.
He's walking up and down the line, and he's shaking
hands and giving five to all his offensive lineman. I
think that's great at the collegiate level. I don't think
offensive lineman needed at the NFL level. Go sit down,

(53:49):
look at your iPad, go over some things that you
liked and didn't like. They don't need to be pumped up.
You know what pumps up pros winning play play making.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
The reason why I worked the week before. It was
first game and then you followed it up with game
winning drive or game winning quarter. Fourth. But like you said,
like everybody gets into their own little space, like once
you come off the field, Hey, look, quarterbacks over here
with the quarterback coach. You know, wide receivers are down here,
running backs where the hell they're at? And then offensive
line is taking up the middle of the sideline. Everybody's

(54:18):
doubting to what's going on? How can they fix the
last play? If it worked, why did it work? If
it didn't, why didn't it work? They don't want to
see you coming over here and dapping them up, and hey,
what's going on? We're gonna be all right. We're gonna
be all right, man, get your young ass out of here. Man,
I'm trying to figure out the plays. That's the mindset,
that's the mentality. So that's a good point too.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Dang, we got some uh, we got some big time chats, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
We do.

Speaker 7 (54:39):
READYU chat chat is crushing. I told them a certain
goal before Brothers breakdown. They zoomed through that, and we
just said, let's try and get to this next one.

Speaker 6 (54:48):
It's three hundred before the end of this you got
Brothers breakdown.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Let's go what you said, three hundred before the end
of the show.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Breakdowns come up in five minutes. Let's get to those checks.
By the way, just out of curiosity, they that you're wearing.
Is that associated with Lembarney, Billy Sims or Barry Sanders.
No answer is wrong, None of them are wrong. I'm
just wondering what it is.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
I'm just glad that you didn't say is it associated
with every time it is?

Speaker 6 (55:13):
Ryan makes sure to tell me nice.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I don't. I don't work for a four letter network. Yeah.
I love that, all right, there's another Sanders allion's history
who I love just as much. If not more. And
that's the late great Charlie Sanders, who I had the
privilege of working with for many of the years, and
I loved that man, wonderful guy.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Go ahead, all right, we're gonna start with Don Trail
with the five dollars?

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Super willis what did they call the D train? Right,
he's a wild boy.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
They called him the D train. I believe that was
off the tracks in Detroit.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Go ahead, many knights in Royal Loqunice and Royal No, no,
wonder it was off the train tracks.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
It was.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
The difference is it was my off season, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
It was his season. Good night, see you later. Have
a great life.

Speaker 7 (56:01):
But that says my doubts reasonable week one. We are
now too good to accept the less. We're on par
with the Chiefs, the Ravens and Bills and Eagles fans.
It's okay to expect more. One week and now, yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
I think it's great. Yeah, I would expect more too,
you do. There's a difference between being an optimist pessimist
and a realist. Who they're playing upcoming. I'm not saying
they don't have a chance, but the team they're about
to play has one of the most dynamic players in
all of football. Lamar Jackson has one of the toughest
players to handle in Derrick Henry, who only rushed for

(56:36):
like twenty three yards against Cleveland Sunday.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
They were talking stuff before the game.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
That's right, and has scored forty and forty one points
respectively in their two games. Defense better be sharp and
let's face it, all time, not that you can go
back to two thousand and five. It's not fair. Joey
Harrington playing for the Lions back in two thousand and
five is not Jared Goff. But Detroit has won and

(57:00):
six all time against Baltimore, and the one win was
Joey Herrington's ninety seven yard two interception performance. How they
won that game, I'll never know.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Yeah, you brought up something last week, you know. I
brought up the stats of as it relates to Lamar
Jackson playing against NFC teams, most notly the Lions of
seventeen or eighteen and zero in his history. Blah blah blah.
And you made up the point why can't they beat
the Baltimore Ums? And I said, well, you got Lamar
Jackson is John Armwold, and you gotta go on the
road and what they look like after you. He was like, well,
at the end of the day, if they figure it out,
who's to say they can't beat them. The reason why
I said it is Baltimore in the last five quarters,

(57:32):
even when they were scoring yesterday, it was it didn't
look like Baltimore to a certain extent, didn't look as
clean as it's been. It didn't look as smooth.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Now.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Lamar Jackson is my fantasy quarterback, so thank you for
winning me another week with this bum team I got,
But it just doesn't look as fluid from the first
two quarters. I would agree with that, yeah, and that's all.
I don't just take it for what his word.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Yeah, No, I would agree one hundred percent. Again two
thousand and five, Joey Herrington against Anthony Wright for crying
out loud. So I do believe that you know that
this might be a little better indication, But they're gonna
have to play much better football, I think, even than
they played yesterday to win in Baltimore. And quite honestly,

(58:15):
I don't care where they're playing. I really don't. I
said this last week, I'll stay it again. I'm gonna
monitor this every single week. Seven home teams lost last week.
Seven home teams lost yesterday. It's not impossible. Okay, this
is what the NFL is. It's a beautiful thing. They
usually they play close games and road teams have plenty

(58:36):
of chances to win. There were seven home teams fell
by the wayside yesterday. All right, so whatever go ahead.

Speaker 7 (58:44):
Hey, number two middle aged sneaker chick in the chat,
she right now has the number two crown for top fan.
In the chat five dollars, she says she does security
and crowd management at Ford Field. It was not the
majority of the fans saying f Ben Johnson, but they
booed Chicago mercilessly when they did come off the tunnel.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
I'm okay with that, I would hope. So I'm coming
good for her. Thank you for the perspective. Really appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Dante we Ben Johnson chat day too, though I don't
know what people were surprised, but.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
Yeah, I mean what I love about it is just
the last face.

Speaker 7 (59:18):
You know, I respect Stafford for everything he did, but
once he becomes the enemy, once he wants to beat us,
I remember the face in the press conference, and then
you know, Ben Johnson, I was like, what I've seen
that face before, Ben Ah Stafford.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
But we said this yesterday last week. As long as
you're consistent in kool aid, you are consistent. So you
felt that way about John Sally, you felt that way
about Dennis Robin, you felt that way about Dino Cicarelli.
If you were alive, then you felt that way about
a lot of former greats. Sergei federal off coming back,
put these up. That's all I'm asking if and for.

Speaker 7 (59:49):
Ben Johnson, I'll be honest with you. Just to answer
your question. A little bit earlier, there was just a
little bit of a tree off that has now come
off the top.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Of the kool aid.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
Okay, we're good.

Speaker 7 (59:59):
Yeah, but Dante super chests one of the day so far.
Shout out to Dante, he says, the three players he's
grateful for, And this is piggybacking off of what you
bought up Brolio shep, He says, Tyler Williams, Jami' Williams
and Dionne Brent, I mean, Brian.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
He also let us know about the J. J. McCarthy
news too.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Yeah, that's good. We appreciate that man. Good stuff. You're
always welcome in the chat we love having you. Thank
you so much. We are going to get to more
of that. The one player that you've grown to appreciate
a little bit more, Tyleerk Williams might be a little
bit early. That's only two games. But the guy who
you're looking at and saying, you know what, this guy's
a lot better or I appreciate the things that he

(01:00:41):
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Let's get to Brailin's breakdown.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Braileon, Yeah, yeah, yeah, year, let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
Let's get it up, Get up, get it up, Ryan,
you got on the show. I'm excited today because you
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which was an amazing catch. You saw not one, but
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of the season. We're gonna break the play down all right,
here we go. We got two man, is what it
looks like right now? Press coverage on Isaac Tesla right now.

(01:09:21):
This guy's taking icy right here. You see the second
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You can see how everything is shaped up one one,
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if Mac cover in cover two right there with the
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on the hashes. It rotates now at the second slide,

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this safety's coming up other safety drops. Now you can
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I want you to tell them who they're spying. If
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the running back and Mayor Gibbs crossing rock right here,

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he's gonna have him. And then you see Jamo has
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an extra guy in the space who's gonna be double coverage.
Where should the ball go? Adds of right now, chef,
you see you see this brown right I'm Ron Saint
Bron's gonna be got They double team. You'll see it
look better in the next shot. But right now, Jared

(01:10:24):
Goff already knows where he's going with the ball.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
You know, he's looking like Jared Goff.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
He's looking left to freeze this safety right here. That's
why this safety is looking this way. He wants all
of everybody to look at number fourteen. Oh yeah, we're
gonna get him another touchdown.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
We're gonna get him going. Actually he hadn't had a
touchdown yet. This was gonna be the precursor to his
first touchdown in the game. But here we go. Everybody's looking.
Next line, please, if you will, Ryan Boom, next line,
Now you can see it. Look at the safety. He's
waiting for Amat Brown to get the ball. One on one,
one on one. Now the linebacker has gone to the
running back Jamior Gibbs. And then oh, by the way, Jamod,

(01:11:01):
this is what was holding his safety. He's giving Jamo help.
Into the last second, he's gonna push on amar Ros
Saint browns Jared Goff already knew he was gonna throw
the fade to Tesla. He set it up. He almar
Rod Saint Brown. He held the safety with his eyes,
and now what do you have right bray, he's winding up,
but six four on five ten, he's about to be

(01:11:25):
a match made in heaven. He's wound up, he's already gone,
he's already known he's going. And he saw what this
guy did last week. He saw what this guy did
in the preseason. This is a chance to get the
crowd HiPE. This is what they wanted. Number eighteen on
the go route. Next screen, next green shot way.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
A great, great job by the offensive lineup two take
take it back. It's hard to believe, but they're only
rushing four there, so they're doing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
A nice job.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Ratledge's got a double team. Where the double team, I
should say, on the far up side between decker and
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
So I want to saying, all right, here we go.
We got a little little pressure for the guy right here,
that little stream being arm up. And now give me
the next slide if you will appreciate you. Now the
ball's gone, it's in the air, and you see what
everything is. It's one on one right here, it's one
on one everywhere. This was the decoy and now he's
just a la la land. He's stuck Jamo running getting

(01:12:18):
his guy involved taking him out the place, so he
can't help. And now it's one on one. It's right here.
There's step for stuck, stride for stride. Another thing that
Tesla does. You gotta hold some sideline for the quarterback.
You gotta hold some sideline on the quarterback. A lot
of times guys get excited. Oh man, I'm about to
get a fade out because faedr ros usually end up
in the where indian zone. This one was a yard short,

(01:12:40):
but it usually up and end up in the end zone.
So what happens is we get excited. So now as
opposed to widening and then getting back to lead that space,
you just get so excited you just keep wide and
keep widing, and then you run out of bounce and
you don't leave yourself real estate. This is a great
veteran move by a young wide receivers keeping some space.

(01:13:01):
So Jared Goff has a window to throw the ball
next line, if you will, he can get a little
bit more, but see he still has his room. You
want to be four yards from the sidelines, so from
sideline to him you want about four yards. That's the
space that quarterbacks like to work with when they throw
the ball over your right shoulder, and here we go.
This is good coverage. But when you're a big play guy,

(01:13:22):
when you're a big, physical wide receiver, you welcome this
contact because it gets them too comfortable. It gets them
to thinking, I'm engaged with him. He's not gonna make
this catch. Meanwhile, you're just trying to figure out How'm
gonna catch this pass?

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
And what ends on?

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Celebration? Am I gonna do if I get there? Next slide?
If you will? Everybody's looking. Jamo knows what time it is.
The DB's for the Chicago Bears, they know what time
it is. This is the only person that don't know
what time it is. He is the only guy that's trying.
What's gonna happen? Where's the ball? Am I gonna make
a play? Next order to this guy? Next line. The
reason why they're gonna throw it to this guy is

(01:13:56):
because he doesn't need two hands to catch folks. All
he needs is want and yards. Here we go, boom, catch, drag.
He's got the knee. The knee countsss two, you got it,
and he got came down with his elbow. This is
a heck of a play. This is a heck of
a throw. And this is a heck of a job
by a wide receiver or a player that when his
number was called, he came in the game to make

(01:14:18):
a play. This is the idea of when you stay ready,
you ain't got to get ready, and I ain't for
a fact the catch was made. I think this is
the last clip. This is the last year you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Said four yard of a catch. You said four yards
from the sideline, which is a great educational tool. That's
not where the throw was thrown.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
No throw was actually a dime like he threw that
he threw because Tesla got a little excited. He was
probably around two yards realistically, but Jared Goff knew where
he was going from jump. Amar Ron Saint Brown did
his job. Jamiro Gibbs came on backfield, did his job.
Sam La Porter held right here, did his job, and
Jamo took the top off on the post route. So
now he allows it to be one on one Jared

(01:14:59):
nose were he's going with the ball, So this isn't
the okay be four yards and let me find four yard.
This is I'm throwing this ball here.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
You just better get it breitlyin that's a pretty good
route tree. Like in other words, I like that concept.
You got guys stretching it. I would guess Jared Goff,
if he doesn't throw there, he still has options, right one.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
Of him saying because at the end of the day,
if he stays up like he did, like he's looking
for I'm around Saint Brown Jamo on the top. This
is the actual same concept that they were in uh
in the second half with Jamo catches the touchdown on
the backside. That's what the options were. So, oh, Jamo,
could you go back a couple slot.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
That's interesting, isn't it because if he throws at the jam,
Jamo would be in this here.

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
Yeah yeah, so but yeah, this is this is well executed.
And the thing they did best too. Man, they saved
the time. They saved the time. They got it to sixteen,
they stopped it, clocked it at six and I'm around
Saint bron scores the final touchdown of the half and
actually I think one two three. We had all four
guys to scored in the first half. It's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Yeah, that's that's impressive. I love that explanation. This is
I love the thought process of a receiver. How far
you're supposed to be using one as a decoy, and
I think the route tree is really strong. I think
there's a really nice play design on the part of
the Lions. What could have changed it? If you're the

(01:16:23):
Bears defense, how do they manipulate that to make it
a little bit more challenge?

Speaker 5 (01:16:27):
If they were just went zone if they go zone
what kind of zone though? If they go two zone
on that one. If they go two zone on that
of course you throw a player here and you kick
affect me it where they were, they still would have
got a feel go out the deal Jake Bates big leg.
But in terms of this play, this is the Bears
I think being strapped for men in terms of like
the talent, in terms of health injuries concerned, and ain't

(01:16:50):
necessarily have guys field of shoes. But this is what
you want to see, man, And it's just just the
more you get to plays like this, the more you
see tests to do things like this where you bring
them in the game. He bursts release, he keeps this,
he keeps up yardage on the sideline, he makes the
catch in a big moment like this is how you
start to get him implemented. The game. Remember when Jamo
was drafted first round and then finally was healthy. It

(01:17:13):
took them a second to break him into the offense.
And he's a guy that was twelve overall. Yeah, so
it takes a second for I think Jared Goff's offense
and more so for Dan Campbell to feel confident in
the guy. But this is how you get on the field.
This is how you stay on the field.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
When you making catches like that, what does that do
to the camaraderie you are trying to establish with a
quarterback and the confidence you're trying to gain from him.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
Not only is he not only is he trustworthy, but
like he makes play plays like this is a play play.
This isn't like you went out there, you ran a
good route, you called a pass, and you stepped out
of bounds. This is look, we took a shot. We
took a shot to see if we can get close
to possibly score touchdown. Not only did you catch it,
guess what, we also scored that touchdown. And then a

(01:17:57):
week ago when it was garbage time we put you
in the game. You didn't have like it was garbage time.
You act like shoot debut.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
So one hundred and said, this is how you stay
on the field though, This is how you get consistent reps,
and this is how you built that trust. Because right now,
if I'm Jared Goff and I know eighteen's in the game,
and I know whatever Jamo's wearing one and fourteen's in
the game, depends on what the coverage looks like. It
depends on what the covers looks like. Is who's going
to get the ball versus that's gallery trust, I'm going
to fourteen or one unless he's wide open right now,

(01:18:28):
it's like I gotta match up. I'll take eighteen at
the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Yeah, you can understand it. I'm glad because I'm with
a lot of the folks in the chat who are
saying Tesla will be eased in slower than we want.
I concur with the people in the chat. That's the
generic overall thought. Can you give me the benefit of
why moving him in a little bit slower might be
best for this team's offense rather than what you just

(01:18:54):
pointed out. Here's a playmaker. I mean, I know it's
only two catches, but it's only two throws toward him too.
It's a playmaker and a guy who's instilling confidence in
others and creates, from what you've told us, a little
bit of a matchup issue when you're six four two twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
Yeah, no, he definitely creates a little bit of the matchup.
But you got guys in this team that can rock
and roll. Like you're not trying to implement him into
an offense. That's just okay. You're not implementing him to
an offense where last year your offense was twentieth and
now you're trying to add him as a big play guy.
Your offense was number two in the league, last year
number one in the league. And you still have those guys,
you know, and you have a lot of guys to feature.
Five of those guys are on the field right now,

(01:19:30):
you know. So it takes a second, but slowly but
surely it'll just beat those three you implement them in.
This week, they got the Baltimore Ravens. This is another game.
Maybe you give him some more plays, See how he
does on the roll, see how he does after a
big play, a big game, a home and then you
come back Cleveland, Cincinnati, still early in the season, like
all you guys out there, just just relax, it's gonna

(01:19:51):
be cool. They score fifty two only throwing him the
ball once, so I think they'll slowly stroll into it.
But once it starts rocking and rolling, man, all bets
are off. Love, you won't have to ask that question.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Love. What Joe put in the in the chat Braylan's
breakdown fire because it is fire. There's no question. When
we come back, I do want to get into the
player that has well. I don't know if it's changed
your opinion as much as it is. You've just become
a little bit more appreciative of what they've been able
to do. It's probably not a rookie because you've only
seen Tate Rattledge and Tyler Williams only two games, but

(01:20:25):
it's probably somebody established. I'll give you mind. We look
for yours as well. Got plenty of information in the
chat after we come back on the Brailn Edwards show it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:34):
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Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
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That's my auntie, my cousin getting excited and getting ready.
I think this was about to be the happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
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Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Video, somebody's got something to go already, right there is
We're about to get round.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
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this is birthday speech. It was my cousin Rudy's birthday
as well, and so he was doing his happy game.
It's a family fairs. Grandma's adding we got her out
the house. He was outside.

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You make a quick decision about going to Black Rock.
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Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Okay, really impressive win. Fifty two points for the Lions.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
Someone am missing among them center.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Uh, well it's someone I'm massive, you know. Actually that
was an impressive win. I give them credit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
You beat Everybody expected them to win, right, probably expected
them outside of Ryot expected them to beat the spread.
But almost doubling the spread was really impressive. Okay, So
I don't disagree with that. I think there are certain
parts of any game that can impress you. In wins
it's really hard and losses, but I mean you can

(01:28:44):
find it. You've got to filter through it a little bit.
There are certain players I think we have a certain
belief about their ability and who they are, and I
think we identify that pretty quickly in their careers. I'm
sure people in Minnis that are doing that with JJ
McCarthy I'm sure there are people in Carolina who've done

(01:29:04):
that with Bryce Young since he's been part of it. Okay,
but my hope is that we have enough leniency in
our world and our mind that says, this guy's been
better than I ever thought he was. All right, or
you grow to appreciate them. Who's the Lions player who
you've grown to appreciate a little bit more the more

(01:29:26):
you watch them? And I'll it's not like I'm late
to this party because I've liked this guy. I've respected
this guy, but he is so much better at the
finer tunes in football than I ever thought he was.
And it's aman Ross Saint Brown. And I know, look,
he's an All Pro, first team Out Pro two years
in a row. He's over fifteen hundred yards, he's double

(01:29:47):
digit touchdowns. I don't know, the fourth round pick. Eventually,
can we get past it? All right? He's an outstanding
player period. You know, at some point you let it go.
With Tom Brady, ESPN wouldn't let it go, but at
some point I let it go. It's a six round choice.
I'm on Ron Saint Brown's a fourth round pick. That's fine.
He's turned into one of the better receivers in Lions history.

(01:30:10):
He's not better than Calvin Johnson's not better than Herman Moore.
He's one of the better Lions receivers in history. He's
one of the better receivers of his era because of
the things that he I don't know if I've ever
seen him drop a pass. And I learned this from
the man whose name is on the show, Braylen Edwards.
His precise route running is something that really I think

(01:30:32):
is underrated. Like we always talk about him and the touchdowns,
and then we associate the numbers like we always do
in sports anytime somebody does something. Cal Rawley's got fifty
four homers since, tied with Mickey Mantle for most by
the switch hitter. Absolutely remember he also catches, so that's
pretty impressive. What I'm on ross Saint Brown does is

(01:30:53):
his route running is so precise, and I'm not sure
we would all recognize this if coaches didn't tell us,
or if we didn't have an NFL analyst and the
guy who played for a long time in the NFL
as a one receiver next to us telling us about it,
and then you know the catching and after the catch,
how his ability to turn his shoulders and get up
field as quickly as possible just makes me. The more

(01:31:16):
I watch him, the more I'm like, damn, I love
watching that guy play the game of football. And I
don't know him. I'm just saying I love the way
he plays the game itself.

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
Yeah, it's funny. You said, I actually was gonna choose
I'm a r Saint Brown for a lot of the
same reasons he did. But I said, here we go
Brayley and choose another wide receivers gonna stayed away. I
agree with you. You know you have to add the
fourth round pick in there, because if braw Holmes isn't
drafted fourth round, then was he get drafted? This is
Brown Holmes, he chose to draft him in the fourth round.
Where does he go up not? You know, he comes

(01:31:46):
to a team and you inspiring all that he's always open.
It seems that he's not always open, even when we
watched the film, like he's open. He finds the ways,
he finds his owns. He is his hands catcher, and
he uses his body when he needs to, and he
makes the big play. Like there isn't a stature situation
with Ama Rossi Brown his stature is I make plays
like I make plays. He'll block, he'll do the little things.

(01:32:08):
He'll lead the huddle if he needs to. So, yeah,
that's fair because I definitely wasn't that high on him
when he got drafted. I wasn't high on him when
they chose to start him. I was like, it's a
it's a it's a zone thing, it's a scheme thing,
it's a coordinator thing. No, he's just that nice man.
He's just a really good wide receiver. I'll stay on
that side of the ball. Because all you guys thought
I was gonna say Jack Campbell because that was my
infamous viral moment. But I can't believe they drafted this

(01:32:31):
tall linebacker out of Iowa. Got me. Uh, it's Pane.
See it's Pine. So you draft the guy in which
I thought you should have drafted another guy. Uh you
know who that is, But you draft him.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
That wouldn't either.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
It would not have been if you if you the
guy him who went eleven to the Dallas Cowboys hintz
whier War eleven. But then you move Hi from left
tackle to right tackle and tell us that he'll eventually
be left tackle. You also he's twenty years old turn twenty.
In that process, he also set out a year during COVID.
So now you're telling me you got this nineteen year

(01:33:05):
old kid playing right tackle who's not even playing the
position you want to set out the whole season in
organ So he doesn't even have a sense of, you
know what this next level is gonna be. He doesn't
even have reps under his belt. And to go from
that and the uncertainty to the best right tackle into
the NFL and putting himself in a position to be
best lineman maybe in the NFL and be a consummate leader,

(01:33:25):
a consummant pro like he continues to impress at every turn.
And I think for me it's him because going into
that situation, I'm like, so you got a linement to
your point, like former players like drafting lineman, you draft
a lineup, then you play him outside his position, and
then he's a kid essentially, not a kid because I'm
forty two. He's a kid because he was a kid,
yeah at that time, but he even started then. And

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then week seven, Week eight, you go out to LA
and Putney Sue is essentially born in twenty twenty one.
That was the Aaron Donald game if you don't remember,
so I think for him, I mean for me, it's him,
it's it's it's Binaso. I did not expect him to
be this good consistently, and then the sky has a
limit for him, so PINSU for me the Betty.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
The best part of both those answers so far is
if they're twenty five years old and they're locked up
for a long time. When you talk about faces of franchises, Yeah,
and I know it's it's not a glamorous thing to
use offensive lineman, but he really is if you think
about it. He might be now that I think back

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might be the only offensive lineman in Lion's history who
I can think of who is one of the faces
of the team. I don't think there was anybody else.
I mean maybe Frank ragnow for a period of time,
but before that. And I think Lomas Brown's a hell
of a lineman.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
He was never the face, okay, but he was never
the fake. I love Loman, Okay, guys, I do too.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
I love him too. I think it was a really
latice job. Seriously, that's an impressive thing to be able to,
especially on this team when this team has this many
good players as it does. For him to be as
much of a focal point of what this team is
all about makes it that much more impressed.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
Typically when you have guys that are as good as him,
typically when they're the faces of teams, you're talking about
teams that either win Super Bowls or go to the
Super Bowl. Anthony Munials was the face of the Bengals,
he went twice. You look at Andrew Wentworth was the
face of the Rams for a second. He went to
the super Bowl. But you look at Orlando Pace. Orlando
Pace was that coming out of high school. Then Ohio State,
then the Rams. They win the Super Bowl, they go

(01:35:27):
to to Super Bowls. Walter Jones, Walter Jones didn't even
have to go to training camp like his deal was
so lucrative with the coach from Mike Holmgre. Mike Holmgrem
told Walter Jones, yeah, you just be ready when you
come to camp. That's how good he was. And last
time I checked, they played in the Super Bowl down
the street and they lost to the Steelers. When you
become the face of a team, you either going to

(01:35:49):
the dance or you win in the dance. It just
is what it is. Jason Kelcey is the face of
the Eagles to a certain expent in certain circles.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Yeah, that's good unless the team's really bad, like Joe Thomas,
who I think is one of the attacks of all time.
But the Cleveland unfortunately wasn't very good. So he was
one of the faces of the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 5 (01:36:08):
Wasn't his fault?

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
Sure, wasn't his fault. Who's the one guy on this
Lions team that you appreciate, perhaps a little bit more
each time you watch him?

Speaker 13 (01:36:16):
You know what.

Speaker 7 (01:36:17):
I don't know if this is cheating or not, because
I wanted to say Sam Laporta, but it's a guy
who I didn't quite believe was our best defensive player.

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
But every time I see him take the field.

Speaker 7 (01:36:27):
I think you Raylan's breakdown in my head saying he's
our best player, even when I thought it was Hutch.

Speaker 6 (01:36:33):
He's our best player. Even when you see Carbi getting paid.

Speaker 7 (01:36:37):
Brian Branch is that guy who every single time I
see him, I'm like, how, how and how?

Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
And they got him all over the field.

Speaker 7 (01:36:44):
They send him into the backfield and we know what
he can do, but he just continues to get better.
Like I keep thinking, all right, maybe we've seen some peaks.
He's a good player, but this guy and his ceiling,
to me, it's off the charts, man, it's off the charge.

Speaker 6 (01:36:56):
And Bray, I think you're one two percent right.

Speaker 7 (01:36:59):
I do believe that Brian Branch is the Detroit Lions'
best defensive player.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
By the way, he's only twenty three.

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
I'ma just I'm gonna get some love to my guy
right here. Man, Tom as away, No, that's my guy,
Love you, Tom. Tom came into the show the very
next day after Brian Branch didn't get drafted, and then
he got drafted on day two, and he always talks
about this. This first time I really pay attention to it.
He didn't leave the draft. He didn't, you know, get
drafted from the hotel room or go back home. And

(01:37:27):
then the Lions call him and then he's on the
phone at the crib and all right, cool, I'll come in.
He stayed at the draft so that he can walk
that stage. You can just see the type of intention
in his eyes. You can see like the I hit
the intensity in which that's I gotta pay attention to
this guy. As soon as you start watching him in
training camp, in mini camp, and they started talking about him.
It was like, no, Mas was right to watch this guy.

(01:37:50):
Mas is right to say what he said about that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
He stayed.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
He won it. As soon as he got people pull
on his colors. He started mean mugging Packers fans. He
was mean mugging Bears fans. He was about it the
day they drafted man. So I just saw it then, Man,
I saw it. I saw and I stopped. I never
stopped paying attention to it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
How about you, right?

Speaker 11 (01:38:07):
I was gonna say Brian Branch, but I'm gonna be
a little bit different. But I'm gonna go the other
side of the ball. Another Alabama dude, Jamiir Gibbs.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
Man, Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 11 (01:38:16):
He's just a gamer.

Speaker 13 (01:38:17):
And that's why I was upset a little bit when
Nick Saban retired because there was three Alabama dudes. Brad
Holmes was taking and must have really liked Nick Saban guys.
But Jamiir Gibbs, I really think towards the end of
last year, who's kind of establishing himself as I thought
the number one running back on this team in know
Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. Different playing styles, but just seems
like Gibbs. He can receive it, run it, and he's

(01:38:41):
just he's just damn good.

Speaker 11 (01:38:42):
I really like Jamier Gibbs. You make something out of
nothing a lot of times.

Speaker 5 (01:38:46):
You know what's so funny about that?

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
Yet he's twenty three too well.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
Power, I love somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:38:54):
There you go, stuff coming out, now you now, you're now,
you're getting here, now you now you now you alan.
The thing about it is he's been so good since
twenty three I forgot to even include him nice. So
when you say Gibbs, I instantly was like, oh yeah,
like a lot of people hated that pick when it
happened and you moved. He's been so good. I forgot
about it. Dude, I don't know when you said it.
I'm like, no, Ryan's right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Yeah, I'll be honest with that. I don't know one person,
not one who liked the pick. I don't don't. I
didn't know you then, but don't play, don't play armchair, don't.
It's okay to say I was wrong because I was
wrong too. Okay, I was wrong about Jamison Williams, all right,
I like certain picks nobody wanted a running back.

Speaker 11 (01:39:38):
No, I was about to tell you I hated the
pick too.

Speaker 13 (01:39:40):
I was just about to say, Braylan, I hated that
first round Jack Campbell in Jamier Games.

Speaker 11 (01:39:46):
I knew exactly where I was.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
I Jack Campbell.

Speaker 13 (01:39:49):
I was at the bar and I go, what are
we doing? We're drafting a running back? And then we
draft Jack Campbell, who I just saw Blake korrum putting
skates months.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
Prior in that I a game and I was, you
like Jack Campbell?

Speaker 11 (01:40:03):
Now I'm completely wrong on both those fis.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
I always liked him at i O, I think, and
I'm I can be guilty of this too. I think
one of the biggest problems with the NFL draft is
we all want a draft for need. And the thing
I respect most about Brad Holmes. Look, he's gonna either
live or die by it. But he's got a board

(01:40:28):
and they rank their players and it's really positionless. It
doesn't matter what the if. If that best player is there,
they're taking him because they're gonna make him or he's
gonna make them a better team. That's what I love
most about it. I hate it when people try to
argue for drafting a certain position you know what we needed.

(01:40:50):
We needed a center, so dress draft one. Oh, so
you're trying to tell me that you would take a
center even though he have made have been for worth
or fifth round on your draft board. You take him
in the second round just because you need him, and
you'd bypass a really good linebacker. That makes no sense
to me whatsoever. Those are the same people were going.

(01:41:11):
I don't understand why you trade up to grab a
guy like Isaac Teslaw because Brad Holmes knew that New
Orleans might take.

Speaker 7 (01:41:18):
What's said that no one said that everyone's cheering for
him now now chev likes to get people round up.

Speaker 5 (01:41:25):
He likes to go back and get people out of him.
Look as their relations that I agree with. You want
him per saying you draft what you need now in
that draft, you guys know where I feel and I
don't have to say it for the billion time on
who they should have drafted. But with that being said,
once you watch Jamiir's highlight tapes at Georgia Tech, then
you watch him at Alabama, and then you understand what
the Lions are trying to do. Like he was one
of those picks where after they draft him, I was like,

(01:41:46):
I don't know, watch the film. Watched it that night.
I came back to work the next day and I
was like, no, this is gonna work out, Jack Campbell,
I'm not gonna lie. I still wasn't knowing. I was like, nah,
I don't see it. But at least with Jamia, I
saw it like that night. I said, okay, okay, like
when you turn his highlights on you, you could not
not see the potential. I don't know if you thought
it would look like this, but he looked damn good

(01:42:08):
as Georgia Tech kick returner running back and then obviously
saying with Bama.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
So here's another question.

Speaker 5 (01:42:14):
Saving stuff too though, right, yeah, yeah, well that was
a great, great call.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
Yeah, and it does help to run behind all American
offensive linemen and things of that nature.

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
Same at this level, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
The thing that I was thinking about yesterday, I was
kind of I thought t Troup would would beat them
rather handily, and I don't think anybody expected the final score.
But why why did I doubt them? Why did I
have a hint of doubt at all during the week
when this is who this team has proven itself to be.
Why am I not? Why are we maybe we're a

(01:42:46):
little gun shy in Detroit. Probably a bad phrase, but
maybe we're a little timid when it comes to the
Lions because of how often it we have had our
hopes dashed even when team is good. But this team
is built on toughness. Even though I didn't think they
looked very tough on against green Bay, I thought green

(01:43:09):
Bay out toughed them. This team has a has a
has a way of responding on a regular basis. They've
proven that over the last couple of years.

Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
You said that last week, and I said, look, this
team isn't hasn't responded. It wasn't this team that responded.
It was a team the year before. It was a
team in twenty three. It looked tightly different, had some
different players, had some different coordinators, had some different coaches
on the sideline, But to your point, the identity of
what that is is still here. We feel that way
because it was bad. Yeah, wait, we felt that way

(01:43:37):
because as good as the players are that we have here,
as good as the roster is and all that, Dan
Campbell was still the gout. They looked bad against the
green Bay Packers. They looked horrible against the green Bay packers.
I think, like you said, it got you got nervous.
He's like, oh, oh, is this team resorting back? Is
this team?

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Is it that?

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
Dare I even say that that acronym out allow? Is
this team that? And you don't know because it was
a different situation. It's a different squad. This guy's not
here anymore. That guy's not here anymore. It looks like this.
All the questions we had, they all came to a
hope in that game. It all looked like that. So
I think going into the week, it's a little bit
of nervousness. Is there some reversion? Will we get out

(01:44:18):
of this hole? And you know, when you have that game,
you see it's exactly what you said. That talent is
still here, that identity is still here. Sometimes you just
need somebody to turn that Bunsen burner up a little bit.
And they turned the Bunsen burner up. You fix some
things in the meeting, and it looked a lot better.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
How much do you think that Bunsen burner was turned
up because it was Ben Johnson leading fact the bears here.
Brian Branch, who we just got done talking about, is
a guy who brought that up. That it was personal
to them. I really felt like this Detroit. Maybe I'm
overblowing this. Detroit had their coaches back. You said this
last week. Dan Campbell said we're gonna win this game.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
We have to.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
Okay. We wondered why he would say that out loud.
His players had his back. Ben Johnson. Going back to Detroit,
I really thought his team would have more of a
you know what we're gonna do, not that you play
for a coach. I don't think any player does that.
I really don't, unless it's collegiately perhaps, but I think

(01:45:19):
from a from a National Football League standpoint, I really
thought they would have a different response to their coaching.

Speaker 5 (01:45:25):
Going back home, Okay, here you go, and this is
the conversation that I'm a ross. Saint Brown said on
his podcast. He was like, you ain't like that. Stop
stop acting like that. And the word he use it
was act like Ben Ben Johnson's stick in Chicago appears
to be an act. And one thing about players that
we're not stupid, like if you if you know what
a phony is, and if that's the case, that's phony.

(01:45:48):
If you you're not gonna have somebody's back, who's phony?
It takes time for them to build that up, and
right now he may be phony. When Rex Ryan was
the head coach for the New York Jets, we played
year one. I got traded there. Oh nine, you're too
We open up against the Baltimore Rims. We opened against
the team where he was from. This is where he
made his bones. This is what got him the head
coaching job.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
He let us know what that game meant to him,
but we but he was honest about it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
But he didn't have to because we had already rock
with Rex. We already had Rex's back, We had already
fallen in love with Rex. You know, like the day
I got to New York. The day I got to
New York, I'm on the practice field and I dove
for a pass. I'm so excited to get the hell
out of Cleveland. Then I'm out here doing things that
are well characteristic for me, but uncharacteristics for this team.

(01:46:33):
Dove four pass. He runs over there, What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
I like, uh, call dove for the ball, called the
balls And he said, man, we don't want you that,
we want to We want to make sure you're good
for the game. I said, Coach, Look, I'm just already
trying to practice best I can. He say, well, then
keep diving.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:49):
And then he was like that with me every day.
I was like, oh, yeah, it's run through a big
wall time.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
But he didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
It's real.

Speaker 5 (01:46:54):
It was authentic from day one. So he wouldn't had
to tell us, Hey, if if you didn't know my
track record, I coached. He had to do that. We
know a time is Baltimore. We got to beat them.
We lost, but we knew what that intensity was. I
think the defense only gave but ten points. Chicago didn't
look like that. They didn't look like man, it's Ben Johnson.
Is where he's from, you think now?

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
I know, and being around his athletes, athletes as long
as I know one thing, you know what BS is.
You know who's somebody who's just trying to stroke and
want something out of it? I understand it. Do you
think the players have already recognized that with Ben Johnson
or do you think it's just something where they just
don't have the talent.

Speaker 5 (01:47:39):
I think it's it. I don't think it's that yet.
I think he's Yes, I think they perceive him as that,
But you can grow out of that Nick Sirianni didn't
start off as everybody's favorite in Philly. Like players, over
time they grew to be like, all right, he's a
little bit different, but he's cool, we can rock with
and this is what it is. They make it to
a super Bowl and then they up winning one, so
you can grow into that. But I think right now

(01:48:02):
it's a bit of he's a little bit fake and
we got to.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
Figure it out.

Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
Jim Harbaugh was like that in terms of the players
in forty nine is not necessarily understanding what he was.
He's a little quirky, he's a little too much. I
don't know if I can trust him. And then eventually,
as you win, eventually, as you build, eventually, as you
see someone's vision, you know, come to life before your eyes,
it's easier to buy in.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
Yeah, a really good story about you bring up Nick Sirianna.
A really good story about him last year the early
part of the season, where one of the offensive linemen
had mentioned that Sirianni had tapped him on the shoulder
and said, when practice is over, can you come up
to my office. That player thought, oh, I could be
in danger of being cut, right, I mean, that's the
immediate thought. He said, I'm gonna go up there after

(01:48:45):
the meal because I want to make sure if this
is my last practice, I'm gonna eat as much as
I possibly can on their dime. He goes up to
their office. He's not in the office. He's in with
the offensive coordinator. They're talking about things, and he says, oh, coach,
I thought you wanted to see me, but I comeback later.
It's like no, no, no, come on in shuts the door.
Player gets a pit in his stomach, and all Siriani

(01:49:06):
says is, how's your father? Because he knew his father
was not doing well, and that right there that eventually,
as you know, spreads throughout a team about this guy
cares about us. Great story about Tom Landry back in
the day when he first took over the Cowboys and
they were losing constantly and players never thought he cared

(01:49:27):
about him until after one of the losses he was
basically in tears feeling like he had failed them, and
they all looked around and recognized, my god, man, this
guy actually likes us. I don't know if that works
today at the NFL level, but I do know the
players on the Lions know that dude cares. The Bears
will soon find out that about Ben Johnson, but it

(01:49:47):
sure doesn't look like he has a great relationship with
him early on.

Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
Anyway, it works if you're serious, It works if you're sincere,
because I guarantee you Matt Lafleur is an easy win
for him. You get Michaeh. Parsons's coming to a squad
disgruntle employee from Dallas. They lied to them, They told
them all types of things. The easiest thing for Mike
laflor is to come to Hey, look, man, we got
you over here. Man, come in here and has fun.
You won't have to deal with the same bs you
dealt with over here. We got you. You know, we

(01:50:12):
don't want to be against you. We don't want it
to be Green Bay versus you, or the locker room
versus you. Just come in and have like he looks invigorated,
he looks fun, Like you're having fun. That's an easy win.
Like sometimes players just want to be told like I
got you, like as simple as that, Hey, we got you,
all right, cool?

Speaker 4 (01:50:27):
I believe in you.

Speaker 5 (01:50:28):
Yeah, the same thing happened you mentioned coaches Barry Switzer,
Charles Haley, everybody knows Charles Haley is a notoriously bipolar.
They know he will say and do whatever. Barry Switzer
took that time, you know what I'm talking about, went
over to his house after he had did something crazy
in the training room, went over there, told Charles Haley,
sit down on Charles Hally's bipolar and is a mutant

(01:50:48):
of a man. He told you sit on the couch,
and they just sat down there. Rock the first coach
to ever ever do his house being one of them
saying and now to this day, Charles Haley, who will
not use the word, he said, Man, I love Barris
Woods like that. A good coach can get that out
of you, no matter what type of person you are.

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
Yeah, they don't need always the raw rod guy. That's
okay if that's your personality. But they also understand that
there are certain people who can touch them and make
a difference in their life. And some of these guys
they want to know you want to win as much
as they do, right, and that you want to succeed,
and they're going to put you in a position to succeed.

Speaker 5 (01:51:29):
If you're willing to do what it takes to win,
we can figure out the other stuff and if you're
willing to do, if you're willing to put on the line,
if you're willing to do, we ask and more. You know,
we can figure out crazy. We can figure out this,
that and the third. As long as you don't shoot
us in the foot, we'll figure that out.

Speaker 4 (01:51:45):
And as long as you communicate to us. Yeah, okay,
just just make sure you're telling us so we know
what is expected of us. That's what a lot of
players have told me, kol. Let's get to the mail back.

Speaker 6 (01:51:59):
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Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
All right, And by the way, real quick, because Braylan
had mentioned Matt will flirt with green Bay, I guess
Micah Parsons is basically told people there that he's just
this is really foreign to him. The amount of care
and the amount of study and the amount of commitment
that Green Bay has shown him in his short period

(01:53:39):
of time there, compared to what he was experiencing with
the Cowboys is night and day. Now he'll be the
first to admit too that there's not much to do
in Green Bay. It's a great football town on Sunday,
how is it Monday through Saturday. If you're a young person,
it's probably not ideal, all right, you stay out of
some trouble, your noses in the books. But he recognize that.

(01:54:01):
Whereas in Dallas it was about me, as Brandleen has said,
it's been about my podcast. It's about all the other
things outside of football as well as football. And green
Bay it's football first and everything else.

Speaker 5 (01:54:14):
Later also too, like in Dallas. But see Jerry welcomes it.
Jerry keeps that going like that city keeps you going.
ESPN keeps it going, The nation keeps you going, The Internet,
social everything keeps Dallas Kyle boys going. So even if
you're not doing anything at point, they can cycle back
up some stuff, or they can put you in a
situation because it doesn't take much to light a little
bit of match and now everybody's talking about it. That's

(01:54:35):
not in Green Bay. Like I don't know if Green
Bay's changed since last time I was playing against the
Green Bay Packers. Has nothing to do there. They got
one casino, they got a small town, with a hotel
in the steakhouse. There's not a ton to do there.
All you do there is focus on ball, and when
basketball starts you can drive to Chicago and go watch
the Bulls play. Who aren't that good? Like that's Green
Bay in a nutshell. That's what Charles Woodson told me.

Speaker 4 (01:54:56):
So the dumb data said. Remember everyone, according to Bray
and Shep, you were scared of losing Ben Johnson. What
an embarrassing take that was. Well, I think a lot
of people I don't know if we use the word scared.
I think a lot of people were concerned. And it
wasn't just people. It was national analysts who every article

(01:55:19):
we read, we brought it up before the season began.
Everything was a reference point to losing their coordinators. And
a big reason why Detroit may take a step back
is because of that. That's what we said.

Speaker 5 (01:55:32):
First of all, I'm gonna have to jump on this
take right here because that's not exactly even the context
of what we used. And I'm glad your name is
dumb dotter because that was a dumb ass comment. What
we said was why don't people like Ben Johnson? What's
all the aches to Ben Johnson? Why are people gonna
say f Ben Johnson? Why are people saying that? In

(01:55:52):
my because I'll take this. This was my comment. I said,
I believe because it's a little bit scared of what
they are without Ben Johnson, I believe they are. And
after week one, huh, because I didn't hear you make
this comment last week. I didn't hear you say, oh,
because you were right there. You were scared too. But
because you are an at home hero and here we come.

(01:56:14):
Now they score fifty two points and now you can
type that in the comments.

Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
And what did I say? What I said? Do that?
I said he I don't think they like him because
he's snarky exactly. Okay, I didn't mention the word fear
at all, so please, I mean it's it's a typical
you know what. I'm only gonna I'm only going to
hear you. I'm not going to listen to you, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:56:33):
Appreciate the comment, though, ye keep the dunk comments coming.

Speaker 4 (01:56:36):
Yeah, what what's up kool aid? With the the mailbag?

Speaker 5 (01:56:40):
My friends?

Speaker 7 (01:56:40):
Hey, look, we got to get through some super chats
and then are a couple of mailbag questions that have
already hit already Michael wear you with the five dollars
super He has moved into number two spot in the
Chat family. He says, Commanders Jayden Daniels has a knee injury.
His status is if he I O, Ryan, I think
you said he might be. He might miss next week

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as well.

Speaker 11 (01:57:01):
Yeah, he might miss against the Raiders this week.

Speaker 6 (01:57:03):
Yeah, and then came back with another five dollar of
super chests.

Speaker 7 (01:57:07):
Leading the way today in terms of super Chat totals,
he says Cowboys center Cooper Beebe is also expected to
miss sixty eight weeks with the high ankle spaying via
a rap sheet and then burn with the five dollar
super Chat says, I've got this weird appreciation for Brock White.
He just always seems to be there when we need
a big play. He has been on the team this

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entire run.

Speaker 4 (01:57:29):
That's a really good answer. Kid out of Notre Dame
seem more as a blocking tight end. He sure doesn't
have the moves, the shiftiness of a Sam Laporta, but
he's got pretty good hands. It sure seems like. And
I love guys who are willing to accept their role.
Not everybody can be a superstar. Not everybody's going to
be a star on this team because there are so many,

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but he seems like one of those guys who says,
you know what, I'm ready to fit in anywhere you
need me. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:57:57):
You know, there's different roles on every team, some rolls
and more and some rolls or less, but it is
nonetheless a important row and so he's had an important
role here. You know, he's made plays over the years.
And whether it was the New York Jets game which
I was at, you know, whether it was this past week,
or it's the things that he does that we can't see.
It's the practices, it's the looks he provides. It's a
special teams deal and just being you know, a veteran

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at this point. A lot of times you can't see
the effort that people put in. But there's a reason
that they stay around as long as they do.

Speaker 4 (01:58:26):
Anything else.

Speaker 7 (01:58:27):
Yeah, you know what, I'll read this from Dante one
five one, not a super chat, but we take care
of our guy. He's actually a number one in the
chat today, meilbag, do you think the Tigers will lock
up the Al Central by Sunday late afternoon?

Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
Not if they lose the series to the team that's
trailing them.

Speaker 4 (01:58:44):
Yeah, so they get Cleveland, So they've got six home
games in a row. These are the last six home
games of the season regular season, and then they're on
the road, and then they finish, of course in Boston.
You know, I don't know if their magic number is
seven if they sweep Cleveland. I mean, I don't need
to tell you the math. I think it would be.

(01:59:07):
They would love to do it at home. I think
that's going to be really hard if they don't win
the series against Cleveland. So I think a lot depends
on the series against Cleveland. I would say, no, I
think they'll win it early next week. That's just a
guess on my part. I think there is a deep
there should be a deep concern over what's going on
with the pitching behind Schooble and or Mice. Charlie Morton

(01:59:28):
has not been reliable at all. Alex Cobb was an
absolute bust and waste of a free agent signing Chris Pattick. Yeah,
well there's Tom masaway for you, and then you've got
a guy like Chris Paddock who's now relegated to the bullpen,
and it should be concerning. Look, I'm not saying they
should be Seattle. But Seattle has one nine in a row.

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They now have a one game lead in the West.
Their starting pitching is sick, okay, with Castillo and Wu
and Gilbert, They've got guys who are really steady. That's
the one thing that concerns me more than anything else
about the Tigers right now.

Speaker 5 (02:00:08):
I would agree. I just like the way that the
line's up against Minnesota, excuse me, against the Guardians, because
I think we go Casey flatnery, flattery, and then uh school,
So that would be our start for that series.

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
Yeah, so yeah, you bring up Jack Flaherty. I mean
Jack Flaherty has been inconsistent and best, so a little
concerning with that, for sure. Somebody had mentioned in the
chat about the Lions and John Morton. I give you
credit because I'm glad you saw that. Regarding John Morton,
give him a lot of credit. He has done a

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really nice job at least last week. And then somebody else.
I thought for sure kool Aid was going to give
us this one. Jordan says, Cad going to be a
top five MVP this year.

Speaker 6 (02:00:51):
Question Mark, I missed that.

Speaker 5 (02:00:52):
You did miss that, You know what, I'm a man's
own business.

Speaker 7 (02:00:55):
I'm very very very bullish, and okay, coming in very bullish,
be actually doing a series of articles where I actually
track out who I believe is gonna take some of
the biggest leaps for the.

Speaker 6 (02:01:05):
Pistons this year.

Speaker 7 (02:01:07):
It's another player, because I do believe Kate took a
big jump, but he will take that step even closer
towards superstardom this year.

Speaker 6 (02:01:14):
It might be top five in MVP, might not be
if he is.

Speaker 4 (02:01:18):
That means the Pistons have had another really really good season.
We had another really really good Brailen's breakdown. If you
missed it, fine, gonna check it out. The heavyweights are
gonna replay it a little bit later on, so I'm
excited for you to get the opportunity to see it again.
We'll have more of that in the coming days and
weeks here on the Braillen Edwards Show are thanks to
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