THE TIGERS LIVE! | LIONS TOP PLAYS vs BENGALS | The Braylon Edwards Show w/ Shep | October 9th, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to The Braillen Edwards Show with Shep Touchdown Brailer Edwards, Brailer.

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Speaker 4 (00:54):
For pumped today on a Thursday here on the Braillen
Edwards Show. Glad you're with us? Why are we super pumped?
I'm telling you folks. Oh, you guys think it's because
of the Tigers. I'm sorry, Okay, No, it's not because
of the Tigers. It's not because it's one of your
favorite night. It's not because of National Football League kicks

(01:16):
off Week six.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Fresh haircuts?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Can you do the music against And it's only because
we have.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
So you sent me up right there. I actually forgotten
about it a little bit. I didn't know where you
were going with it. I was like, Okay, what is
he talking about? What's going on this weekend? What's going
on tonight tomorrow?

Speaker 7 (01:36):
So but yes, it is Thursday, his brother's break down.
I'm excited. We have four video clips for.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
You, just some some nuanced things that I'm excited about.
I love how things come together as you watch the player.
So we watched that before the show. We got it
for you.

Speaker 7 (01:49):
But I'm excited because it's haircut Thursdays.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Did you get a haircut today?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:53):
I did you know? In case you couldn't tell, you know,
I got a nice and smooth I got.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
My curls back activated, got back right, got the beerd
clean down a little bit.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
Man, I very do you do your.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Own beard or there's somebody trimming?

Speaker 8 (02:03):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Wait, wait, wait, what the hell? But you know, why
can't you do that?

Speaker 7 (02:07):
Because I wanted to be precise.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
I want someone that specializes in the field of grooming
to do it.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
I don't specialize in groom.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
I specialize to sit behind the microphone and tell you
what time is one thousand percent. But I'm also here
with you, guys. I'm excited to been a very, very
very good day.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
We also got a haircut to day, Ryan.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
No, I did not. I shaved, so.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Excuse We're good to know Ryan shaved on a haircut Thursday,
kool aid? Is it haircut Thursday for you?

Speaker 9 (02:39):
No haircut Thursday for me? Man, I actually got cleaned
up a little bit earlier in the week.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
All right, this is a this is a phenomenon for Meut.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
I did get it cut. I didn't get it cut.
I didn't get to cut because it was haircut Thursday.
I didn't realize haircut Thursday was a thing. And now
I know, and I will make sure it's close shots
again for you. No, we don't want to break any cameras.
We don't want to do anything.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
I want to break it there we got. I was
one and I said, why is the man not doing
a clothes up? Like wait a minute, you see you
see that? Shout out? I know you said no, shout
out to Brendan Man. We love Brendan around here.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
We love Dave Montgomery with the Detroit Lions because he's
willing to do everything, whether it's run the ball, catch
out of the backfield, block, whatever you need him do.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
That's the same thing.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
With Brendan Man. He'll go get pieces, he'll bring you
in deals, he'll bring you the segment sheet. When you
forget talking about myself. So shout to my boy be here,
what was sports? Appreciate all that you do.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
He did get us the uh the outstanding Buddi's pizzas
yesterday from twelve and a half and Woodward Katie runs
that shop and they were fantastic. And trust me when
I tell you this, the heavyweights and everybody else within
our great station family child down and those boxes. Yeah,

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they were used as hockey goalies for or hockey nets
for the rest of the day.

Speaker 8 (03:58):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Sometimes you'll put him at the end of a table
and you play hockey. You guys have done that? Or no,
have you not done that? Have you done that? With
the with the fingers, with the pen pennies or something?

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Pennies you keep It's like three man weave, right, you weave,
you weave until you get it and you take the shot.
Right you would paper football?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, payper ball?

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Yeah, Ryan, I'm confused about what's going on?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
All right, let's explain it to Ryan, shall we? Okay? Well, okay,
So so Brailin's at one end, Braylan and I are
playing one another one. Okay, bear with me, folks. I've
got this is the goal. Okay, okay, I've got it.
Brailan only carries paper, he didn't carry all right, So
then what you do is should take You have three pennies,

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all right, looks like this, and then the nose right,
you tap the nose.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Hold on, let me factor it spreads out.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
And then you have to go between the pennies all
the way down the ice and shoot and score between.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
The Okay, I gotcha. I've never heard of that, but
I got to.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
And if you want, you could do all kinds of
show tay scars whatever you want. Okay. It's really fun.
The paper football is you make yourself a little train.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, I know that one, okay, And it's I know
that one teeing it up and.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
You're kicking it off.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
Did not know the other one.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
But I like it. I like that.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
It's actually pretty cool. Used to play it in chemistry
all the time in the back row when I was
a junior high until we got busted. That's what you're
doing in chemistry. That's why I was doing chemistry. That's
why I don't know a whole lot about you know,
what is what is this? What is that? When it
looks like look at the chart, you know iron? Great?
What is that? Oxygen zero two? So anyway, that's that's

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it right there.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
It's actually pretty fun and sometimes I think they have tournaments.
Of course they so here we go, all right, so
found three pennies. Let's do this here, So here's there
you go. So you take what you do. Watch now
there are two ways to do this. I don't know
if Braylan does it. I used to sprint kind of
fling it. Some people push the penny like that, so

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like that. So now he's got to go, well, hold
on a second, hold on, that's that's cheating. Well, here's
what you're doing. You're just you're pushing them. You've got
to fling them. If you fling them, it's harder to control.
North Farmington High School.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
In Farmington Hills.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Oh, now this is tough, but here's what you can do. Wait,
take your left left hand and you're just off the bank,
right you gotta be really good or not.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Okay, I got you, I got youa.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
So that's how you do it. It's not too dissimilar
from quarter bounce in concentration.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Look, I tell you, like this, before there were xboxes
and all these streaming and all the games and all
all the things, we had a little simple, simple mesasages
like that. Don't give me twisted. I still have my
Super Nintendo, but that was what I had back then too.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Those are those are fun games back there, you know.
I mean, it's you're right, it's very simple. It's like
whiffle ball in the backyard. It's like stickball in the street,
high Willie May's all those types of things. Sometimes those
are more enjoyable.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Those are more I'm I don't think I've ever I
think this this might be the oldest I've ever felt.
Playing penny hockey with you, I was like, damn, come on.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
It's fun. I played it.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
It is.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
It can be true. That's true. You've taught me that.
What about a nerf hoop? What was the game when
you were a kid and you're in your room, you're
you're in your bedroom. You got sent to the room
or they told you to go to bed and you
stayed up a little late. My brother and I would
tape literally grab a pair of socks and tape them
and we would use that for hockey and we'd play. Okay.

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We also took all our baseball cards put every guy
in a different position. Okay, so if it had rick
Monday and right field, you had Reggie Smith in the
left field.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Sr.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I just mentioned two Dodgers, you know whatever. Okay, had
Ricky Henderson in center field, all right, and then what
we would do is we bound the ball and you
take one of the cards and you would hit it.
If it hit one of the cards, you're out if
it hits. So we play baseball game with all cards
around the infield. We did something like that. The stickball
was was fantastic. It was so much fun. I actually

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showed my kids. Stickball got kids in the neighborhood.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Really.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
You take a broomstick and usually you use a racquetball.
All right, can't use the crossball, it's too hard. Racketball.
You got to bounce it and Brailan swings hits it
and then you just play it like it's a baseball game.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
All right.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
That's that is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Stuff.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
Only thing we played in the room outside of video games.
One you mentioned it the nerve hoop. Nerd what I had.
The nerve hoop started at age two, three four, and
it never stopped. Like I had a nerve hoop when
I first got drafted in the NFL, Like it just
it extended that far.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
Also was WWF like WWF.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
From the eighties and the mid nineties for me, Like
you come in that room like this is the Pontac Silverdome,
this is nineteen eighty seven, reimagine all over again. And
every time I was you know who, I got to
slam the giant. I gotta make my presence felt.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Oh yeah, what about playing football on the couch where
you're you got something Defending the couch is the touchdown
and you got to try to jump into the couch
or make a move to score a touchdown and you
get hit and tackle.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
Oh yeah, right, a couple of time it's called as
was waiting to happen.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
There you go, that's right.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
You can't be playing in the living room.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
Moms doesn't play that, especially Grandma's house, right, And you
can't play in the living room, so you gotta try
to tip to it.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Around.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Something always got it broke, like something was always broken somehow,
whether it was a plant, whether it was a glass,
was a rpiece.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
You candn't play that game.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
That can be fun, though sometimes that mean they get
mad at first.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Parents.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Parents get mad at first, but then a little bit
later on they're laughing to themselves and then they're telling
all their friends, Yeah, the boys are in there playing
football again, and this is what happened.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
They didn't laugh until I got the scholarship Michigan. It
is justified.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
That makes sense.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
Clowning around was justified, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
My parents would just say, head up to Michigan Bell.
Nobody knows what Michigan bell is unless you hear a
Bob Secret song when he just feel like a number.
It's called my bell. I'm just another number. There's a
Michigan Bell on the corner of thirteen mile in Drake.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
I don't think it's there anymore.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Is it still there? They had a field there where
we all would go up there, especially in the wintertime,
and play tackle football after school, and people literally literally
would be inside that building looking out their window watching
us play football in the snow and the mud. It
was a glorious time. I wish we'd see more of
that today.

Speaker 7 (10:32):
My favorite game back in the day, everybody had this.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
I know it's not exclusive to us, but I just
loved ours thanks Giving Day neighborhood, like the Thanks Yes neighborhood,
Like let me tell you how stupid I was SHP.
So I played all when I was little. There was
this park stopel excuse me, Hampton Middle School. Hampton was
the part we would come back and play in the
weekends right there out of Drive, Wyoming.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
But I kept playing. When I was a Michigan shep.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Did you really whoa? I?

Speaker 8 (11:01):
Coach OSU game?

Speaker 6 (11:03):
Generally freshman year we played a house stay. I didn't
play in the house state game, came back home. I
was ready to take it out on somebody who played
the game because I had friends that went to play
college ball as well.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
So the game evolved as we got older.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Sophomore year, I'm finally starting I had a thousand yards
second all big ten. I came back home, come on
coach car and played in that game at the park.
My junior year, where I'm almost considering leaving going to
the NFL, I still went back and played in that game.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
Chef. When you're twenty, you don't know you're dumb, like
you do dumb things.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Twenty But your dad's a smart man.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
But I got my own card.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I'm just surprised. Hey, don't do something dumb like this.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
I know what I'm doing. How does my dad?

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Because your dad's involved in your wife for crying out loud,
don't don't. Don't play koy with him.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
I'm not playing koy. But I'm twenty years old. Come
home for Thanksgiving. When I come home with the break,
I basically can do what I want. I could come
and go with.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Out your NFL career.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
That scares the hell out twenty.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
I know, like were legitimately comment we're commentating about thirty
six year olds doing dumb stuff.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
I was.

Speaker 10 (12:07):
I was.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
That's well said coach car find out. Okay, let me
ask you this before you get to your senior did
you tell any of your coaches that you were doing.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
And that was? Did you tell not fully communicating with
so they?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Did you tell Stan you were doing that that? I
think that tells you right there. He knew it was
probably a risk most most people, not by most people
would suggest is not worth taking. I give you a
ton of credit to keep the you know that that
rivalry slash tradition alive. That's awesome. I've got friends who

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have done it. They call it the Gator Bowl. They
have done it for over fifty years.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
What I will say is I respect my friends at
the time too, because that's true.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
Like you know how you hear it to the.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Gym or going to the gym as an athlete or anybody,
like guys are trying to hurt you, trying to hope.
Guys are trying to do a little something extra to
say they did this to this. Play football, flag football
is none the same. Those guys try to do something
creepy or crazy. My boys never did that.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
Man. They kept it just a regular game, kept it
simple and didn't try to go over and.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Above and mess me up. So yeah, maybe that.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
Maybe because I knew I had good guys, I felt
like I was taken care of.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yeah, maybe you trust your friends there. No one's going
to play hero ball against Brelan Edwards. They want to
make sure their buddy is going to go play in
the National Football League.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
So look back like that.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Like my junior or we played against USC in the roads,
Like what if I got hurt playing these things.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Given a game, can you mention the media circus around
that you just lost a one thousand yard receiver? How
did it happen? No comment? How did it happen? No comments?

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Social media was a thing.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Something leagues out and it's like, yeah, and Michigan loses
to Ohio State and everybody is living It was a
we'll keep the people in the chat already. Somebody suggests
they they used to have a big wreck room and
he and his brother would take the big wheels in

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their basement and race them around the basement. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
We used to there was an open field we would
play with football, and then we'd play football, but then
we'd play a different kind of football. I can't say
the name of the game of football that we would
play because it's not right name. And then we'd use wallball.
We play wall ball. But I was always the smallest
kid out there, so even the kids that were younger
than we were bigger than me. So that's where I got.
Like when i'd play against kids my age, like in

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basketball or anything, I was never scared to go against
them because I was getting Yeah, you're right, I was
getting my ass kicked against kids are it's.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
A really sometimes it's so cool, like where's the small
indicators that like what who you are and how you
grew up? A little bit like the term we had
a rec room. I just imagine certain areas, certain space,
certain situations, certain individuals.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Like we ain't had no rec rooms. We had a basement.
You had to make some fun.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
We had a basement where here's somebody make it work,
make it fun.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
Create So we had a basket ball you know.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Who somebody says, you know, we have a hoop in
the back of their office right now. Okay, so we
got a nerve roop in the back room.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
Pete Carroll had basketball, Like basketball is a part of
who Pete Carroll is. I think deep down inside Pete
Carroll wishes that he was John Wooden because.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
He the Raiders might wish that right now.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, he's struggling out there. There's a basketball run inside
the team the full team meeting room. There's a basketball
room on the side where it's like kind of like
where you enter through the back of the locker room.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Full floor you're talking about full floor.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
Rooms out there where people can get it in. And
then there's another one on the indoor facility. Pete's always shooting.
Guys are always playing games and getting it in. Sometimes
he'll have little little deals like if you come out,
somebody hits it from the back of the of the
full team meeting room, no meetings for the night during
training camp. He knew how to make things fun. When
they say he's the youngest seventy four year old, like

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they mean that, like Pete, Pete's going to be rocking
and rolling and going to He's one hundred plus. He
may not be able to coach for that, but in
terms of the energy, and Pete had that great energy,
I swear one of the things I wish that could
have happened in my career. I love the Jets. They
are my favorite organization. They are just everything. They do
everything right by me. I wish I would have been
drafted to Seattle because seeing how John Snyder and Pete

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you were with the guys they drafted the young guys
that they bring in like they did right by their guys,
and I liked what that organization represented. I just caught
it on the third leg that could have been that
first leg.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, somebody still be living in Seattle. Somebody else had
left over tape ball hockey top shelf. Yeah, that was
really good.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Somebody also suggests that they have They were the organizer
random small, the organizer of daily baseball and or football games.
We literally played every day. I got it again. You
can come in here anytime. That is such good stuff.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
Did you ever play breaks?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Didn't play breaks?

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Pencil breaks? Oh yeah? Did you number two pencils? Throw
your thumbs up a little bit and try to bend
it a little.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
Bit, and you know what, you better come correct if
you come with those dollar store pencils which will.

Speaker 7 (17:11):
Use you had to you had to have the number two.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Explain what it is. Okay, you take two pencils.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
You go ahead. Look look look you had to take
two pencils.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Right.

Speaker 9 (17:21):
Hey, look we got the straw kool aide. You hold
your pencil the right way, and there are different ways
you could bend it. You can kind of cheat and
everything to try and take the tension out. And somebody
else came with their pencil and their job was to.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
Try and break yours. They pulled it back.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
They try and go through your pencil, and there were
different ways that you could, you know, put a little
bit of a.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
Band, put a little bit of a wiggle, put a
little bit of an angle kind of through it and everything,
and it was dope. Man, it was dope, Like this
is bringing back memories.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
What a way to entertain yourself growing up like that.
I mean, that's that's what it's all about.

Speaker 11 (17:54):
Man.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
We had a basement too. We had a speed bag,
and we had a heavy bag for boxing. Yeah we
did not. We had we had to pull table but
really small pocketka. Anyway, my brother and I fought quite
a bit, so my dad had had enough. Yeah, as
brothers do. It's a good thing. So instead of us
just fighting, I think it is too. I think it's awesome.

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He used to tell us, all right, go downstairs, put
on the gloves. So we just put on the gloves
and just beat the hell out of Sheltera were retired,
which was really smart, you know. I mean that that's
the way it should be. I have no problem with
sibling rivalry. I have no problem with the brother because
you know, in the end, if somebody else is doing
that to my brother, I'm going to defend my brother.

(18:38):
Of course, it gets you closer, I think with your sibling.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
And when your sibling feels that same energy. When your
sibling feels like, no, this is my ride or die,
like this want to go to war for me, that's
when the relationship really takes off and you just all
things because then you're allowed to be more yourself, which
means that sibling can call you out when you be
that simply can hold you accountable.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
That's right, my little big system.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
These are really good. These are really good. John fing
Lord says, street hockey was a big thing when I
was young.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, there you go in lie.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Inline skatings took off, like right around the time. I
never really got into it and use it them a
couple of times, but inline skating took off around ninety
five twelve, so I still remember it.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
My kids rollerbladed more than they rode their bikes. They
rollerbladed up and down our our entire neighborhood, and we
would they would play street hockey for so long we
would literally park cars at each end, turn on the
lights and so they could keep playing. We would have
some kids who weren't necessarily athletic, but if they came
over to our house and they sat on the big rock.

(19:43):
One kid sat on the big rock and just read
a book. I said, nope, Mike, you're not doing that.
You don't have to roller blade, grab a stick, get involved.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Here's a funny rollerblading story.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
Everybody remember Joe dumarsfield out, yes, back in the day
the originally my mom were now moved on to the trap.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
Was back on twenty one and a half mile and mound.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Right, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
So I have a friend that was in my neighborhood,
Rose Showy Force.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
We grew up.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
He saw me maybe like twenty seven years old, so
it's not been in the lead seven years or five
years or so. He said, I always knew you were
gonna play football, and I'm not gonna say I thought
the league, but I knew you would do well in college.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
I said, and why did you say that?

Speaker 6 (20:18):
He said, you don't remember when everybody was in inline
skating and we used to go to Joe Dumars and
some people played basketball. He said, you didn't inline skate.
He said, you rarely played basketball. And I remember this
one time you somehow organized a football game inside on
the back court that nobody really uses, like around the corner.
Sometimes if you going on Saturdays, they'll be free. I

(20:39):
vaguely remember it, but I guess I had about, you know,
twelve fifteen people that didn't want to play basketball. We
had found a ball in there playing football. Nowhere on
Joe du Marsfield House does it say football, Yeah, nowhere,
but found a way to make a football game.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
That was really good. I like that. Do you guys
play kickball at all?

Speaker 7 (20:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (20:58):
I played kickball, but I did. I was a part
of that generation of the Rollerbladers. The hockey we actually
had intered neighborhood leagues set up by like some of
the parents, some of the h away some of my
friends from John Glynn High School and such.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Might be had TV owners association. He's big time.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
Growing up, it was hey, he had a rec room.

Speaker 8 (21:22):
My dad had a rect room.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
It sure seems like, let me see this. So Anakin
says kickball is big in my area because all the
open field used it for baseball teams. That's really good stuff.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
I played kickball when I was in Georgia.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
When I when I moved from Georgia back to Detroit
when I was eleven twelve, it was less kickball up
here in the South. Tons of kickball tons. I might
have just been in wrong neighborhoods.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
How about this one? Uh, sling shots and BB gun fights?

Speaker 7 (21:51):
What?

Speaker 8 (21:51):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (21:52):
The roller blading in Flint would have made you a
moving target. Street hockey was popular. The city ruined it
by passing ordinances. That's adults getting in the way, isn't it?
Of kids? Epic with football games with the green monster.
That is so cool, and people would make sure they're
they're at the HOA stick runs in hoa. He needs

(22:16):
to organize their street hockey league. There you go, Yeah,
that's that's so cool. I really appreciate it. I'd love
to be able to get to all of them. Unfortunately
we can't, but thank you for that because that's uh.
It does bring back memory some people about marbles. You know,
did you play marbles?

Speaker 7 (22:31):
So?

Speaker 6 (22:32):
I didn't play with marbles except one time, and if
my mom was listed, she knows, Zach, I'm going with this.
I was in Atlanta and they were shooting marbles. I
didn't know how to play the game, but I was
maybe seven eight years old. I picked up a marble.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I was bad.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
I was bad.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
I picked up one of their marbles. They didn't like
me anyway, because I was from Detroit. I just moved there,
all these country kids of them anyway, So I.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
Throw the marble at the ground.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
It splits in half, ricochets and shoots right back up.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
In my eye. I literally have a mark.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
You'll poke your eye out on my nose.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
I'll show you to mark on my nose. It's right here.
Look how close to this is my eye. My mom
was mad. I never picked up another marble after that.
I mean, I wasn't playing the game the right way.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
But apparently not. But to get that upset, I get it,
all right, I get it.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I do.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I mean, if people aren't gonna let you in, I'll
show you. So I never played marbles, pitch pennies, did
stuff like that. But marbles is interesting. Domino's is interesting.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Quarters. You remember flipping quarters?

Speaker 4 (23:30):
I remember flipping quarter bounce in college, but I don't
remember flipping corder.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
So I did that one a lot.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
I played that too, but we flipped quarters. So back
when I was at Malcolm X. King High School. You know,
I'm saying another life, You flip the quarter whatever it
lands on.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
If the other person lands on that, you get the quarter.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Oh, so you flip your heads and I flip your heads.
Then I get your quarter. Just keep going like that.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Wow, to make some money. That's lunch right there.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Especially when you're eleven, twelve, thirteen years old. Hell yeah,
bring this cash.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah that's not bad. I like that a lot.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
And skyogar he's thinking while I'm thinking.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Man, he says, yep, airsoft and paintball is very popular.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
Yeah, laser tag.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
What is the tag?

Speaker 7 (24:09):
Was used before paintball?

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Yeah, laser tag took it?

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Was it before paintball? I thought it was after paint laser.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
Tag, and then paintball took over, and then like laser
tag like died down.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Paintball is a great bonding type situation where you get
a bunch of people together. Like some people they'll do
it for for they'll do it for bachelor parties. It's
a lot of fun. Was it hooked? Now you're hooked?
Did you play quite a bit? Oh?

Speaker 7 (24:36):
Before that?

Speaker 8 (24:36):
No?

Speaker 7 (24:36):
But now I try to go at least a few
times a year. I want to go more than that.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, it's that's really cool. I love that stuff.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
All right.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Uh, we're gonna move into some some sports discussion here
coming up. Uh, We've got Brailey's breakdown at three o'clock,
Doctor Jeffrey Pierce coming at three point thirty. We'd want
to get into a college football discussion as well, and
it has to do with the Heisman. What the hell
has happened to the Heisman Trophy in terms of running back.
We'll get to that as well, but yeah, just in general.

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That mic up there by Brailn hed the stigma.

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That's the breakdown.

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Speaker 9 (31:26):
Have a couple of super chats, I'll read them both.
They're both about the Tigers. Randall Smalls five on the
super Chat and he has number one spot today amongst
our top fans. He says, I was told today was
dump on Tigers because they lost. How did that work out?
And then Joe Joe helps you're in the chat number two,
number two chat family member, he says, So do you

(31:48):
think Schooble and the Tigers could pull a game one
and beat Seattle?

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Do you I think it's crazy to bet against Jerk Suegan? Yeah,
but I thought the same thing year ago in Cleveland
he lasted six innings, gave a five ro sixis okay?
I thought the same thing earlier this year in Cleveland
when he went Braylan Edwards hut hut hike. Okay, I'm
not gonna say that that's who he is. I'm just

(32:14):
telling you that was the feeling going in. So I
would guarantee you that people in Seattle are hell of
a lot less confident than the people in Detroit. That said,
George Kirby's got really good stuff, and George Kirby is
one and zero and two starts against Detroit with a
very good era and an even better whip. His whip
is point zero six, one five. He doesn't make many

(32:37):
mistakes except when Carrie Carpenter's in the dish. At the dish,
I think Detroit wins it. But there's there's two things. Okay,
I think they got to get a lead early on,
and Schoobl's gonna have to entice swings and misses from
a team that doesn't do that a lot on his
change up. They spit on his change up last time

(32:58):
he started. It's the reason Polanka went deep twice. Polanco
hit two fast balls deep. If he can get that
change up, if he can entice swings and misses on
the change up, he's gonna be even better than we
originally thought. I think it'll be a really close game.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Though uh yeah, I'm not gonna go too much into
the analytics. I think you covered that in terms of
what the game is and what needs to happen. I
think for me, it's just more so not looking at
the Tigers anymore from what they lost, not looking at
the Tigers anymore from the fifteen and a half that
they relinquished to lose the league, and then they have
to fight the Guardians to get in. Then they barely
got in, and then they're fighting against the Seattle Mariners.

(33:33):
They go up game one, and then in a close
out game yesterday for the Mariners, it seemed like it
was all but over and oh, by the way, here
comes the fifth, sixth, and seventh. Any I'm gonna look
at it through that lens. It seems that in the
last two weeks of the season, the Tigers have turned
into fighters. It turns into the team that can make
the play happen when they need to, can win the
series when they need to, can go on the road

(33:53):
and close out a game, or can make something happen
fine some magic. Like yesterday, I thought it was all
but over. Even though I picked them to win the
series in the sweep, I was wrong. Clearly going into
that game, You're waiting, like we're talking about yesterday. What's
the field, how's it gonna be here? Are they gonna
come out and fight? When you go down too or early,
fans are looking.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
For the exit.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
People are like, here it is. Here's the season finally
being over, but not so fast.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
I was actually encouraged when they were down to nothing.
And here's the reason why I thought the turning point
of the game and maybe the turning point of the postseason.
I don't think it's the season, but the turning point
is Kyle Finnegan in the fourth. When you enter in
the fourth inning where the bases juiced and nobody out
and you hold them to one run. That could have
been a crooked number. It could have been a big inning.
It could have been the end of the game. And

(34:40):
I thought that was the most important inning Detroit has had,
definitely in the playoffs. And you could argue all season long,
he's not used to coming in the fourth, He's used
to coming in later in games. Kudos to him. I
didn't understand why A J. Hinch puled Casey Mice. I
thought Casey Mice was really good. I thought it was
a mistake went to Tyler Holton, didn't get it out.

(35:02):
Finnegan came in and saved the day. So with that said,
to your point.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Does that give you Does that change the conversation slightly
about what was done at the trade deadline? Or is
it the same conversation just one of the guys you
happen to work out in that moment.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
So I learned from a lot of people, and what
I've learned from you is let it go, okay. And
the reason to let it go is because there's nothing
you can do about it right now. I can be
upset about it, and I can talk about a postseason, okay,
but right now it doesn't really do me any good. Okay,
So I'm trying to get that out of my head.
I will say this, what was the most encouraging thing
for me about the Tigers yesterday isn't the pitches that
they necessarily swung at and hit. It's the pitches they

(35:37):
didn't swing at. They looked like themselves from June by
taking pitches that they were taking back then, and that
allowed them. I thought they were better on the fastball.
I thought they were better middle cut. That was more
encouraging to me. Than anything else, and that they can
do that. If they can do that tomorrow night against
George Kirby, lay off the slider, lay off some of

(35:59):
his off speed stuff. Easier said than done. Rocket those fastballs,
then he they're going to be in pretty god.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
Shiplet me ask you a question two or yesterday we
talked about something that happened two days ago. Now, since
the New York Yankees are out of the playoffs, they're
out of the postseason. But to save their season, Aaron Judge,
he came up, when all those on the line, he connects,
He hits the bomb. They take the league, they never
relinquish it. Finally, Aaron Judge has that moment that was
truly a moment.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
They lose a series, but in that moment.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
It's a six hundred for the series.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
We talked about a guy that's the best player on
this team, at least he was during the season, needing
a moment, no home runs in the postseason. What has
he done a lot of strikeouts when this is this
guy gonna find that moment, find that chance. What is
that home run yesterday by Roley Green, which was an
absolute moonshot?

Speaker 7 (36:44):
What does that do for him? What does that do
for the conversation.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Where he's at? It's a great question.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Is that a good enough moment for him to Okay,
he's a rive and now you have to follow it up?

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, put him in front, I guess I would ask you,
would it be the same thing for Havy or Bias
who tied the game with an RBI single and then
kind of gave him a little more cushion with a
home run. Changing people's minds. I think it's really hard
to change people's minds. I doubt it because it's going
to be one of those Sure he did that, but
dot dot. I would ask you the same thing about

(37:15):
Spencer Torkolsen, who fisted a double down the right field
line in Seattle that helped them win in extra innings
and also did it in Game two or Game three.
I believe against Seattle down the right field line more
of a rocket. So do people look at him differently?
I think probably not.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
I think with Spencer Torgason, you pretty much know what
you're going to get out of him. I think you
understand what he is as a ballplayer.

Speaker 7 (37:37):
I don't think you see.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
Spencer Torgasen as being somebody's going to be seven eight
times All Star. Somebody is going to be anything like that.
I think he's going to be very serviceable first baseman.
Will get a little bit better, a little bit better
each year. But this is what he is for the
most part. I think with Riley Green, this is a
guy that is ascending to a different level. Potentially, is
a guy that has the talent to do more. And

(37:59):
in a moment like that, this is an official moment.
Maybe this moment takes him to the next place.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
For Yeah, maybe you're thinking he's a guy you can
build around and maybe not so much, right, Okay, Uh,
I'm glad you brought up Aaron Judge. Full disclosure, I've
liked him, always liked him. Somebody in the chat here
says Vladimir Guerrero Junior is better than Aaron Judge. No
he's not, I mean not in my opinion. Okay, No,

(38:25):
he's not. When when Judge has won the MVPs and
hit the home runs, okay, you want to look at
the postseason, he's getting his team there to have a
chance to fail. Vladimir Guerrero Junior not quite as often, okay,
and on a Toronto team that has spent quite a
bit of money.

Speaker 8 (38:42):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
I am not gonna lay the loss to the Yankees
of the Yankees at Aaron Judge's feet, even though last
year we know in the World Series it wasn't it
wasn't good enough. Yeah, and and he understands that as
much as anybody else. Okay, but if you want to,
if you're talking about players, I think if you pulled
one hundred baseball players outside of Toronto and New York

(39:05):
and said who's better, every single one of them would
say Aaron Judge. Is that the conversation from somebody in
the chat?

Speaker 7 (39:16):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (39:16):
Yeah, Sometimes I don't pay attention, Like, no, he's nowhere
in no world. Is he better than Aaron Judge, especially
Aaron Judge has done the last eight years. You want
to go last two years. He's not better than him.
Is he hitting better than him in the postseason?

Speaker 7 (39:30):
Excuse me? Traditionally, Yes he is.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
He has better numbers, He does it consistently. Did he
have better postseason this series? Yes he did, and Aaron
Judge had a damn good one, but you know he
had a better one.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
I don't think he's a better player though.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Yeah, I don't even think having a better postseason record
or having a better in the series record, and it
constitutes on being a better player. It's just not facts
like you look at the stats, the stats or the
stats like Aaron Judge is doing something that hasn't been done.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
And how long?

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Maybe Yeah, I would remind people this when you again
numbers with baseball, which can be a little overwhelming. I
think we rely too much on it. I just want
to remind people that he led. He's not just a
power hitter. He led the league in hitting. Okay, he

(40:20):
was second in the league in home runs, He led
the league in war he led the league in ops,
he led the league in slugging, and for a big
guy who was viewed as a home run hitter, he
led the league in on base percentage. You can talk
about the strikeouts all you want, and that's fair. It's
a fair game. But that dude is a pretty complete

(40:45):
offensive player. He doesn't have many holes. He's not going
to get a hit every single time, but he doesn't
have many holes. So I don't think that's necessarily an
argument you'd probably want to have in this type of situation.
Let's get to some football here. We've got a football
game tonight, in the Giants and the Eagles, And I

(41:06):
wanted your thoughts on not that we're going to do
Giants TV here, but Jackson Dart is starting again, and
I'm wondering at not that you can go backwards to
Russell Wilson, but I'm wondering with younger quarterbacks trying to
figure out for me how much to throw at them
at one time and how to try and gauge their

(41:29):
ability to learn so quickly on the fly.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
He gotta throw it on at that particular time, make
a handle and what's around them?

Speaker 7 (41:36):
You look at what's.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Around Jackson Dart an average offensive line and get the
running back. You got two running backs and one is
a young guy by the name of Camscattabu who has
some talent. You know, he showed you he's physical, he's aggressive,
he will block, but he's still young. He's trying to
figure out his way in this NFL, in this offensive
system by Brian Dable, which he makes overly complex in
my opinion as having him as an offensive coordinator before.

(42:00):
For who are your wide receivers? Yeah, your guy that
was one of the best wide receivers league. That's what
he's off of the season, right, So there's no elite
neighbors to rely on to depend on. They're still trying
to figure out who the tight ends are, Like, those
are the guys that typically help out a young quarterback
if you want to if you have a young quarterback,
you got a tight end that can help him out.
He's a safer out. He's a five yard throw, three
yard throw. Somebody can extra help and protection, provide another tip.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
Who's that tight end for them? Who's the other wide receivers?
Are you relying on?

Speaker 6 (42:24):
Jalen Hyatt, the guy out of Tennessee that everybody said
was gonna be some star and it just has not
worked out for him. So there's a lot coming at him.
He's playing against Phildelphi Eagles. I didn't I didn't think
they would pull Russell into dire straits, and you know
they did, and they got to win.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
But it's pretty early to pull them. They got to
win and a loss.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
By the way, it was pretty early for this to
be the offense. It was pretty early for this to
be the system.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
That you have.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Like it's not like Russell was operating with a good
a really good system and you just need an upgrade to.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Move.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
I think it's also too it's Brian Dabos. He knows
his job is on the line. He knows his asses
in the slink. Yeah, like they're like, we don't care
about the Coach of the Year that you won three
years ago, which was anyway, Like we care about right now?

Speaker 7 (43:09):
What are you gonna do? I drafted this quarterback.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
I better play him because if you keep playing Russell Wilson,
you keep losing, they'll just remove you from.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
What did you say the other day? It kind of
gives you a little bit of a runway here, Oh,
here's the excuse. I started the quarterback we drafted, and
I started him quarter away into the season when it
could be a little bit of a challenge.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
Did you see that I was the one that made
the change. I didn't wait too long. Things like this,
They go into the conversation.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, trying to justify it. Yeah, you saw the quick
trade yesterday Jaggs and the Browns. Greg knew some a
guy you and I talked about as a possible corner
coming to Detroit for a draft pick or so. Instead,
what was it? It was Tyson Campbell going to Cleveland
from Jacksonville. They swapped corners and draft picks. I thought
it was kind of an odd switch, but maybe it's
just a change of scenery. Do you think the Lions

(43:55):
missed the boat? There, long pregnant pause tells me yes, yes, okay.

Speaker 6 (44:03):
Yes, this is the situation that we talked about. Cornerback
has become the number one priority for the Detroit Lions
as it relates to picking up a player, trading for
a player, hitting something by the trade deadline, it's no
longer the defensive end.

Speaker 7 (44:14):
Could they use the defensive end?

Speaker 11 (44:15):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (44:15):
Is that prime over a dB? Not right now?

Speaker 6 (44:18):
We talked about it. This is a dB that I
do like. This is a dB that they love. Going
man and man in Cleveland, we did. Jim Schwarts loved
to go man and man with Denzel Award as well
as Newsom and Newsom will cover. He had attitude, and
he's a damn good tackler. These are all things that
fit into the pantheon of what Kelvin Shepard's defense is.
Thought it would only take another player. I didn't think

(44:39):
it would take much. We talked about that and the Jags,
who already have a really good defense this year where
their defense is making some strides let's say that they
already have a good secondary and now the secondary is
getting better because you know what, Jaggs actually believe in
who they are now. Jags believe that this is the
piece that would make their defense better, that will give
them better odds because it's sitting at four and one, all

(45:01):
of a sudden, they believe in themselves. So yeah, I
think they could they missed the boat. But maybe they're
working on the situation like this with the player like
this that we don't know.

Speaker 7 (45:10):
We've been saying that for three years, and.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
That they might have. I mean, maybe Jacksonville starts feeling
their roads after that went over Kansas City four and one.
Think about it for a minute. The four and one
compared to a three and two for a team like
Jacksonville is a massive jump.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
Yeah, Also too, you're three games away from being five hundred. Like,
looking at it that your three game you have put
your games three games ahead of five hundred. That's a
hell of a league. Yeah you start, Okay, let's do it.
Let's down in.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Okay, let's pretend, man what Yeah, and a belief too,
a belief that it's there too. And I don't think
that should be underrated by any stretch.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
I left the Cleveland Browns when I got traded in
two thousand and nine, which actually was like a couple
of days ago, which is crazy. It's been that long.
I left and I was on for on a Tuesday chef.
In a matter of hours, I went from on four
to three and one. It is a massive spirit jump
when you're looking at what your record is now we
would lose like two three in a row, but when

(46:10):
you're looking at three on one versus on four.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
What I had a We talked to a little college
football yesterday today. I wanted to dive into this aspect
of it. I used to have a Heisman vote for
a long time, very proud of it, really important to me.
I think you two and four, oh boy, I mean
all the years run together for me. Braylan Edwards probably,
but the odds right now, I don't know where they stand.

(46:37):
Dante More the detroiter is in the conversation. I'm sure
Carson Beck from Miami is creeping into the conversation. There
have been three running backs who have won the Heisman
Trophy since two thousand. Okay, non Alabama running backs haven't

(46:57):
finished a top that since Reggie Bush in two thousand
and five. Of the first forty eight Heisman Trophy winners,
and that was from nineteen thirty five through nineteen eighty three,
thirty five of those forty eight were running backs or fullbacks,
including eleven in a row at one point. That's how

(47:19):
important the position was. Okay, before Ashton genty last year
was a finalist, no running back was a top four
vote getter since twenty seventeen, and lastly, since two thousand,
there have been twenty running backs to go over two
thousand yards in their career. Okay, now, I don't know

(47:41):
if Justice Haines is going to do that, all right,
he could be in the conversation right now because of
those numbers right there, six hundred and fifty four yards,
eight touchdowns, you average eight yards per touch. That's head
right there. A. What do you think has happened with

(48:04):
the running back at the collegiate level? B? Do you
think this kid who looks really good as a running
back and does a nice job in helping Michigan's offense balance,
do you think he's a legitimate Heisman candidate?

Speaker 6 (48:17):
The game went away from the run. The running was
the quintessential thing, starting with the beginning in nineteen twenty
seven or twenty five, like the run.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Was what it was like.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
Running was how you made your bread in the NFL.
That's how you score points. Even after you inserted the
forward pass, it still was running. You can go back
to Yeah, the list goes on Red Graens. You can
start with the Jim Browns of the world, like the
running game was it fast forward to the nineties, it's
still about the run game. Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, the
game with Danian Thomason. Towards the end of the nineties

(48:47):
and into the two thousands, it's always about the running
back fast forward when the game went the way of
the past for real, when everybody's passing, where that's how
you sell your tickets, That's what they're leaning towards.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
That's what the.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
Calls are at. That's what they want to show. They
want the game to be more exciting, more butts in
the seats, more people, more all around the world. So
now everything is passing. They start putting the emphasis on
passing in the NFL. It trickles down to the college landscape.
You start allowing the kids to pass the ball more,
start throwing earlier. Now you have more Heisman Trophy winners
that a quarterback is starting in the nineties with Danny

(49:18):
Ward for Gino Touretta, Charlie Ward who was a running
quarterback but could throw the ball as well. Fast forward
into the late nineties, passing has become the thing and
the quarterback gets all the credit. So because the quarterback
got all the credit, he's the one winning the award,
and that trickles down to the NFL as well the MVP.
It's all about the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Do you think it's a quarterback award.

Speaker 7 (49:38):
It's a quarterback award.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
That's why they creates side awards like the Offensive Player
of the Year, so they can really tell you who
they feel might be the most impactful player.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Yeah, to your point, I mean Bryce Young, Caleb Williams,
Jayden Daniels, quarterbacks to back to back. Just prior to that,
DeVante Smith.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
And also too for the running back situation. True, he
had like a Desmond Howard situation where the number one
wide receiver at the school got hurt. He becomes the
number one and he fills the award. But also too,
it's the right running back at the right school that
hasn't happened outside of the Alabamas. What's the running back? Maybe
Bjon Robinson they didn't finish, But who's the running back
at the school? Because asking genty with the Boise State, right,

(50:17):
and they're not letting bois To State win the highest
and you can say what you want to. It's not
the small school. And if you're going to be a
small school, it got to be like Louisville and you
have to be Lamar Jackson. So the running back position justice, Hey,
to answer your question, if Michigan rolls off the rest
of the season, they finished ten and two, he gets
these numbers up to eighteen.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
Well, you have some games before that.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
What is that?

Speaker 11 (50:39):
Boom?

Speaker 7 (50:40):
Boom boom?

Speaker 6 (50:40):
If you get these numbers eighteen hundred, seventeen fifty twenty
touchdowns's gonna take twenty Now you're not coming in here.
Eighteen touchdowns, twenty is the number for a running back
twenty or more touchdowns, seventeen fifty by the time they
do it in New York because you still have two
games after that. Yeah, because it's Michigan.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Yeah, I don't know about when I at least my vote,
I never really looked at what school they went to.
I looked at their competition, but see and a few
other things. Well, Robert Griffin the thirds Baylor, But what
does that mean?

Speaker 7 (51:10):
What I'm saying he was super special. It was a
small school, but he was special. He was elite. I'm
not telling you what you do. I'm not saying what
you do. I'm just saying you have to take it
out of equations. I know what they do. You're only
speaking for what you do. It is a political award.

Speaker 6 (51:24):
It is a political award unless you're at Alabama win
the national championships and rushing for two thousand rollars like Derek.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Or Ron Day in Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
So you won't get a running back that's gonna win
the award that doesn't go to one of the major schools.
And the problem with that the major schools Ohio states
passing the ball. George is passing the ball, Alabama's trying
to pass the ball, Clemson's passing the ball, Oklahoma's passing
the ball. All the major institutions are throwing. Texas throwing
the ball. Oklahoma Materier he's running as a quarterback, but

(51:55):
he's throwing the ball down the field.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Do you think Jeremiah Smith's got a shot.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
Yes, if they will increase his numbers. I mean he's
on track now. You have two touchdowns last game. He
needs to slow down too, because I don't even break
it any records somebody owns. But yes, he has a
shot because he's viewed as the best player.

Speaker 7 (52:13):
In college football. They have hyped him up.

Speaker 6 (52:16):
He had a hell of your last year and he's
a hell of a player, but they've hyped him up
into such a space where they're not the Downtown the
Downtown Association of the York Athletic Club. Yeah, there you
go where the heisman is won. They're paying attention to
what he does. They're not looking at saying. They're looking
at Jeremiah Smith because he's Ohio State. Once again, it's
a brand.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
It's good stuff. Michigan's at USC this weekend. I don't
know if you're going. I know you and some of
your buddies and you have been talking about it's sad
to stay back long trip out there. How much do
you think that matters in US? He's a pretty good
football team. Credit where credit is due. Are they are
they ranked twenty fifth?

Speaker 8 (52:50):
No, they're unranked.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
They're not ranked they lost to Illinois. Oh that's right, Okay,
they were ranked twenty. Yes they were for losing to Illinois.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
Yeah, USC stinks. I just want to DENI record. I
think they stink. I think they are frosting form one.
You saw that becoming on the road and lose Illinois,
the team that really isn't necessarily that good. With that
being said, I never liked these games. Never like going
out there, especially for coach doesn't understand that you should
go out there two days before so that you can
let your kids get acclimated to the time, acclimated to

(53:18):
what's going on, get your food in you for a
forty eight hour period so that you can really be
rocking and rolling when the game starts. We went out
to Oregon. I'm gonna say my junior year, let's start
my freshman year. We went to Washington. We left Friday,
and we left Friday and went to some classes too.
Like we didn't leave until I want to say, like
Lloyd had us a chimbacker, maybe eleven. Then we got

(53:40):
down there, caught the flight, went out there, walked around Oregon,
saw what it was. Sleep, Yeah, went to sleep, woke
up and played the game. I didn't know where the
hell I was, what time it was. Yeah, and a
lot of times that weighs heavy when you go out
to the West coast.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
You saw the same thing for Illinois.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
I surprise coaches would make that mistake Number one and
number two why they wouldn't talk to their leaders about
when they want to leave. I get a lot of
the certain things with school and classes and the availability
of playing and so on and so forth. Michigan's leaving today.
I think it's really important.

Speaker 6 (54:10):
I want Yeah, they're one of the Chargers facilities exactly.
They're doing the Jets West, as Sharon called it. That's smart.
I'm glad they're doing that. But going out there, look, man,
you play at usc. USC's the coliseum. It's going to
be people out there. It's going to be a whole
bleep show. Now it's going to be it's gonna be
a you know what, it's Hollywood. It's it's fun, it's engaging.

(54:31):
I just want to see what these young players do
on the road in this environment. Last time they were
on the road, they got a nice dub and Nebraska
got a big win. Good environment, night game. I just
want to see what this looks like, because USC is
not a good team. So if they go out here
and they muck it up and they lose, he tells
me a lot.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
I also think the Oklahoma game helps a ton in
terms of the road environment, especially well that game. The
USC games I played at night. It's played on four
thirty West Coast times seven thirty here.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
Different element though, but definitely I think helps.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Do you think we make too much of the road environment.
These guys are used to, they're used to playing in
these big games and these big showcases. I don't think
the road environment means a damn thing unless you're playing
in a place like within your conference. Of course they're
in the conference.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
But it's not like that.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Play Playing at Penn State and playing at Ohio State
is a hell of a lot twice. Is more difficult
as it intimidating as it is at USC.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Yeah, it's not even it's just about the intimidation of USC.
It's more it's just about all of the.

Speaker 7 (55:35):
First of all, sidebar. First of all, your quarterback is eighteen.
Let's go back to that.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
You're starting quarterback who's figuring his way through this nil
space in his landscape the university. He's eighteen years old.
So you're taking him on the road. Yeah, he went
on the road to Nebraska.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
It looked good.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
They gotta win. There were some throws in there he missed.
There were some interesting players of that. What does it
look like? USC is different. It's on the road, it's
a big school, it's a big name.

Speaker 7 (55:57):
Blah blah blah. It glitz, the glamor. Who's on the
side line. These things, they play a factor.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
In eighteen, nineteen twenty year old's head. Because I was
sure checking the sidelines. I saw will Fare on the
sideline when I played against USC snooping. I saw myras
ould the sideline when I play against Oregon is over
talking stuff to Who is he talking to? I can't remember,
but I paid attention to all those things. I want
to show out. Let me show you why you should
have came to.

Speaker 7 (56:21):
This, did you yes?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Okay, so it wasn't too much for you then?

Speaker 7 (56:25):
So I was wearing at number one. It comes to ritor.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
It comes with the territory. Speaking of football, Michigan State
in the meantime is at home against UCLA and they
have homecoming taking place last week after a disappointing loss
to Nebraska, in which none of the three facets of
the game were all that impressive. There was a little
bit of aid Child's on the sideline, Nick marsh on

(56:47):
the sideline. There are two best players on offense, at
least getting after it on one another. What's your take
on teammates get into it into confrontations on the sidelines
during college football season and then by the way, to
their credit afterwards saying, hey, you know what, we talked
about it, we smoothed it out. We're all good, which
guys can do much easier than women.

Speaker 6 (57:09):
No offense, It's absolutely true. I mean, it's fine. Younger
guys is longer, younger than it's different than the NFL.
NFL you can have that boom boom boom and be
good two seconds later to times when you're in college
you have that bang bang, but you know you can't
necessarily get over in that moment. You can't professionally turn
back into a wide receiver and go out there and
make plays.

Speaker 7 (57:29):
So it can be tough. We'll see how this matriculates, but.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
You wouldn't worry too much about it unless it's snowballs
into a loss against a bad.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
I'm worry about the fact that eight and Childs had
two eighty five yards against Nebraska team that is average
defense at best. Right, And when you see a wide
receiver that's as good as Nick Marsh, when you see
what he's doing and how he's open and he's figuring out,
and you see the things, you know what the argument
is about.

Speaker 7 (57:57):
Sure, you know what the conversation is about. Nick Marsh.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
Just can't and let that happen on the sideline again, Like,
even if it's on Aiden Childs, I'm gonna tell you
a secret getting into it on the sideline with him
yelling at him, telling him he missed the throw, what
the hell is he doing?

Speaker 7 (58:10):
And he'll get you more rocks? Right, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (58:12):
It's not gonna get you more looks open. It's not
gonna have him say yeah, you're absolutely right, let me
do that. So he's trying to fight through some things.
He's trying to figure some things out, and in this
moment as opposed to all right, look man, we're gonna
figure this thing out together.

Speaker 7 (58:24):
So take your time on with you, hey, you better
bloh blah blah blah blah. Now he was like, well,
you know what, hell with you f you.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Yeah, so it's not gonna get your more rocks, and
it may turn into a deeper conversation when you go
into a college or pro football combine.

Speaker 7 (58:41):
Keep fighting because you know Nick Marston University of Michigan.
It's a great institution. It's right down the road from
your mask. It's beautiful.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
We got nil, we got the money. We have everything
that you need at the University of Michigan, and you
will get a first class education and a quarterback class education.

Speaker 7 (58:57):
Man, we got man talk to him.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Hit your boy. Yeah, that's bad.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
You got a guy that's trying to be the guy.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
But no, But realistically, this is something to keep an
eye on because they play UCLA.

Speaker 7 (59:10):
That just be Penn State.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
So yeah, so you wonder how that works for for
UCLA's in favor of UCLA. But there's ways you can
look at it where it could be a negative as well. Okay,
you look at it from obviously that it gives gives
them confidence. Does it give them false bravado? Okay when
we talk about things like that.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
No, they're on upset mode. You look at what just
happened at UCLA. They got rid of the Shane Foster
to find a couple of coordinator defensive coordinator, fire to shine.
Foster probably you remember his press conference.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Remember his Big Ten media open. It was horrible.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
He was horrible one of us since he knew it
wasn't gonna go well.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
I guarantee that culture up there is very interesting, and
it seemed like they got a guy for whatever reason
that they fought for, that they played for.

Speaker 7 (59:55):
They do want a game for.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
You take that momentum and say, you know what, for
the rest of the season, what do the upset guy like?

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
That's what we are. We're coming with the upset guys.
We're coming in. We have it. Yeah, we have nothing
to lose.

Speaker 6 (01:00:05):
I don't want to play a team like that, especially
if my quarterback's playing two interception of eighty five yards
and he's fighting with my Star Wars receiver. If y'all
don't fix that, you guys are next on the list.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
You got to fix it early. I would expect marsh
to be targeted early on in that game as well.
Against UCLA. The only worst Big Ten Media Day or
media introduction of Toshan Foster was what Mike McDaniel did
earlier this week and trying to explain certain things about
Miami's game. It was one of the more awkward situations

(01:00:35):
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another reason, just another reason why Miami moves on from him.
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a guy who has been arguably I was watching a

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bunch of videos on Luke Keekley today. I don't know
why how I got on it. There was the rabbit hole,
Jack Campbell, Go, ladies.

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Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
Yeah, I get excited. Gains see, we're talking about that
a little bit early, you know, I'm saying to jump
into that. All right, let's have some fun. This is
a play that it doesn't look like much happened on
this play.

Speaker 7 (01:11:48):
You see it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
It's a second quarter minute left in the menu left
and the half to play by Jack Campbell. Just a
little pass. We'll let the play roll out. I'll let
you see it and then we'll talk about it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
We'll break it down.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Far from field goal range there.

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
Right got you so literally at the thirty eight and
a half, you roll to play, he faged to Chase
blah blah blah, try rollout, try to run a little screen.
Nice tackle, Jack Campbell. He made a good play. It
was an easy play he did. But run that tape back,
and let's let's check out a little thing that Jack
Campbell does all right on this play for Jack Campbell.

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Jack Campbell, he's looking. He's got the running back. He's
got eyes on the running back. What is the running
back gonna do? Because that's my guy.

Speaker 7 (01:12:28):
You'll watch. He identifies his players early. Actually just hit play,
hit play all right. Boom.

Speaker 6 (01:12:36):
He identifies Nope, let it run because I'm gonna make him.
He identifies run it, run.

Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
It all right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Boom.

Speaker 7 (01:12:44):
He gets underneath, he makes the tackle. Now rewind it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
Now I'm gonna tell you what happened on this after
after Campbell identifies that this left guard is gonna be
the one that comes out, so boom. He knows Chase
Browns his guy. Now he knows left guard is gonna
be the one to block. Watch the move that he
made on the left guard. He's gonna take the left
guard when he noticed it. He's gonna run out of him.
Left guard's coming here to block, and then you'll see

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him do a little move hit play alright, watch him,
watch him writes up. You see the stutter step in
the back of just that little move right there. Once
he noticed it, as opposed to run to where he knows.
He knows where the play is going. Right now, he
knows this is a fake. And then they're gonna throw
try to get a little screen plass to Brown. He
knows it that's the play. But as opposed to run

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to the play, get blocked, get covered up, and then
leave an opening.

Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
He's gonna give a.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
Little stutter step which freezes the guard and then watch
our plays out hit play. Little stutter step right there
freezes the guard, keeping his vertical and now he shoots
to the spot. Watch what happens when he shoots to
the spot after doing the stutter step, look at the
lison and do up. He gets underneath and gets underneath.

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
Dip and rip gets to Brown before he catches the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Let it play.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
He almost got to the run for a four yard
long not rewind it back again. It's so small, it's
so subtle. But see what happens. If he doesn't make
this move, he goes down there and gets blocked. Watching
what this area is for brown and for Brownie and
for this right side of the offensive line.

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
Hit play. If he just doesn't do that, if he
just hit play, you let it roll. If he just
goes he gets blocked, he gets pushed past pit Pause, pause,
rewind a little bit. Rewind it all right, play play pause.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Look at this area right here, if he gets pushed past,
like if he would have come here, he would have
gotten taken past this point.

Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
He would gotten pushed past the point. You now have
him on Campbell him.

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
To come out here, turn on Azeloni or go out
there to Amik Roberts. You have seventy four as another
guy in this caravan, and obviously you got Aiden who
also could have made the play. But just look at
what this looks like right now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Big play.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
This is a big play. This takes you from the
thirty eight yard line potentially get up to the thirty
field goal range. That's the game of the game. It's
the score points. You're getting field goal range.

Speaker 7 (01:15:11):
You feel a little bit better for thirteen versus four
zero four donut, And this is what it looks like
but because go all the way back, go all the
way back.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
Now you can just let you can run it one time.
Just watch what the little hesitation does. Has he boombo,
Now take off because that left guard is not gonna
beat Jack Campbell to that spot. We drafted him in
the first round for a reason. That left guard with
that hesitation is not beat Jack Campbell to that spot.
That's how you get a loss of three versus a

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game of eight potentially more, and a field go.

Speaker 7 (01:15:45):
Great job, Jack Campbell.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Next player, this is a Meek Robertson the cornerback.

Speaker 7 (01:15:52):
This is Meet Robertson On, the best wide receiver in
the football coming into this. It's easy. They're at the
red zone. Excuse me, not in the red zone? Excuse there?

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
And backed up three yard line, coming out first and
ten eighteen seconds, start a half hit play.

Speaker 7 (01:16:15):
We'll watch the play. We watch the route.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
Comes in motion, pre release, single high, has time, has protection,
he drops, He throws interception.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
Meet Robinson. How did this pass? Interception?

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
Let's talk about Let's watch the back copy. Here's the
bad copy, all right, starting here.

Speaker 7 (01:16:38):
What do we know right now? This is what we
know right now.

Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
You got a bad offensive line. This will be my
Scotar report if I'm an Meet Roberts. This is what
I'm thinking about. This is what I'm already thinking about
right now. Bad offensive line, backup quarterback, saw what he
did the previous week.

Speaker 7 (01:16:54):
Don't seem to have any rhythm. I know they're not
gonna take shots like a go route from the three
yard line.

Speaker 6 (01:17:01):
When they're down fourteen? Is it not gonna happen? So
I'm waiting and sitting on this rock. I'm sitting on
this route by Jamar Chase because I know ain't no
way in hell he's throwing down the field with this
offensive line, with this quarterback at this yard market hit play.

Speaker 7 (01:17:16):
So now he's already sitting on a hip play.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Why is he give him a free release?

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
Because you know he's sitting on it. He wants to
be able to pivot and turn to it. He wants
to pivot and turn to also too. You don't want
to get beat bay j Mar Chase because if this
is man and man covers, it's off man.

Speaker 7 (01:17:29):
But it's man.

Speaker 6 (01:17:30):
If you get beat back to mark line of scrimmage,
he's gonna see it. And now it changes from the
comeback that he's trying to run changes to a quick
hand up.

Speaker 7 (01:17:37):
Boom, I got the hand up, I got the rock running.
So hit play. He knows here we go. This is
hit play. Here we go, boom boom. He's watching it,
he's watching it, waiting for him to show him something.
And that was it. He showed it. He knew it
was coming.

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
When Jamar gave that little move on the inside, he
knew he was coming outside rewinded. He was waiting, waiting
for the tail. The tail is Watch when Jamar comes in.
He gives a little lazy kind of break on the
inside to sell him that it's an inside route to
create space for the outside route and to meet Robinson
won't buying it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
All right, play you can just let it run. Watch
a little move right there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
He knew.

Speaker 7 (01:18:18):
Now he's waiting to get out.

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
Now it's really offensive passing Appearence realistically, because because the
move didn't sell, because.

Speaker 7 (01:18:26):
The move didn't work, go back, because that move didn't work.
He ran into me. Robinson as opposed to having space.
The move he made here we go right here, the move.

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
He made it didn't create the space he needed. Because
now a meat still waiting for him to come back here.
If he went on a post route, maybe better for
him him coming back here. A meat played it perfect.
Now hit play. Now he has nowhere to go. He
runs into me Robinson technically offensive passing apperence right now,
but they let him.

Speaker 7 (01:18:52):
Get away with it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:52):
Keep going, then you hit play. He beats him to
the spot. Quarterback throws the ball on the inside. You
can't do that, sir, You cannot throw the ball on
the inside. You you will not be a star or
backup quarterback and ends if you can't throw the ball.

Speaker 7 (01:19:07):
On the outside.

Speaker 6 (01:19:08):
Even with that, if you throw the ball on the outside,
Joe Burrow, this might be a completion. In fact, this
probably is a completion. Maybe they call offensive passing offence.
So great job by Mick Robinson from top to bottom.

Speaker 7 (01:19:19):
To the end.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
Next play, that's cool. Oh, this is gonna be funny.
Play on this one little run. Just be a little
pass to your boy, Sammy Laporter, little chip right here,
little fake look at the action. Oh shoot, herry wine,
every wine. Hey, you gotta piggy jackstrap up, big fella.

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Watch forty seven on this. You shouldn't have did him
like that, jimyr he knew it was over fake the
action right here, pull it back forty seven.

Speaker 7 (01:19:53):
I know I'm scared. Which way is he gonna go?
Woh lord, have mercy. And that's a touchdown hit rewind.
That was nasty.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
So they were cooking on all level, wide open, all around,
and this is GoF chose Sam reporter. I feel like
this was maybe a pre snap decision. I want to
get the ball to Sam. We haven't featured Sam, and
Sam's very consistent this year, so this is the thought process.

Speaker 7 (01:20:18):
All right. He got a lot of targets on drive.
You got a double block right here. You'll see this.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
This should be a block right here for Mahogany, and
this should be a chip for Maneu, who will kick
over to the guy that's about to come off after
he releases and after Blockwright releases as well. And it's
just a good player. It's a good route. Golf is
gonna be slightly behind on his throw hit play.

Speaker 7 (01:20:42):
You see the action.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
Mahogany steps down, Manu steps down. Sam Laport a nice
move on the tight end in tight space. He was
a little high on his release, but he's strong as
I don't know what coming out of irin cornfields. So
he pushes the guy. Now you see what this guy
is going. Jameo also is gonna have one on one.
He's gonna actually his man on a corner route safety
because of Jamiir Gibbs. Jamiir gives action and this this

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is what's holding this safety here. Aman Raj is also
one on one. Everybody is open on this play. You
get a touchdown, You get a touchdown, you get a touchdown.
Hit play, hit play now. See golf can't wait this long.
See you can do this against a bad team. Cincinnati
Bang is a bad Everybody in their mama is open
and it works. Golf's got this guy. This ball has

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to be gone already. This pass has to be gone
already because he's.

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
Gonna catch it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:35):
He's got him beat his has his back turn chasing
j Moo. And then this defenders out in the flat
with Brock right. If he throws this now, this is
a touchdown by Sam Laporter.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Hiit play looks like Saint Brown's open.

Speaker 7 (01:21:49):
He is in breaking route to dig raw you hit
play catches. The pass.

Speaker 6 (01:21:57):
Has to wait on the ball. Hence fifty five makes
the play so great. Job ball, Rond's a great play call.
Shot to Dave Logan, see you in the building. But
everybody's opening on this play like this right here, Jamiir
catches this, this is a touchdown. If Jamo gets this ball,
this is a touchdown. A'mar Ron Saint Brown would have
been an en breaking Robinson. He would have called it

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maybe broke a tackle. The reason why, because I know
you're gonna ask this question, reason why he didn't get
the ball and he got the ball is because one
Jared GoF said a couple of weeks ago, he said,
I'm tired of forcing the deep players. He said, I
feel like a lot of times I'm leaving individuals open,
like Sam Laporter that could go for twelve, that could
go for fifteen. I'm leaving individuals open underneath, like Jamiir Gibbs,

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my running back who isn't catches as many rocks.

Speaker 7 (01:22:41):
If you have him in fantasy. You know I'm not lying.

Speaker 6 (01:22:44):
This is open if Jamo doesn't have these drops, if
Jamo hasn't become necessarily a little bit untrustworthy.

Speaker 7 (01:22:52):
Right now, this ball is going to Jamo.

Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
But because of that, why not I throw it to
my other Pro Bowl player and Sam Laporter and still
get twenty yards and now I'm further down in the
reds on to put the pressure on the place that
they call the jungle hit play. And there it is
a beautiful play. It's a beautiful design. Its wide open.
Everybody went where they thought they would go.

Speaker 7 (01:23:16):
You know what that tells me? Offensive coordinators know what
the hell he's doing? Hey, is that the last one?
That's yeah? I mean it's just just that freezing that frame.
It's magic. Like, just look at this frame. This is
magic quarterbacks not one, not two, not three, not four.

Speaker 6 (01:23:37):
He may have been covered four open wide receivers, and
of the four if this throw is on tie touchdown,
if you would have let this go to the back
corner pile line touchdown, if you if you give a
not this way and come back.

Speaker 7 (01:23:50):
This way, because look at this dB, it's also on
the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Gifts is open? What that could be?

Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
It was common sense, they said.

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
And sometimes I feel like, because he goes to him
so much, sometimes he doesn't think to go to him
in the easy ones.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
What's the down and distance in that? I'm stunned. The
Trey Hendrickson if that's a passing situation, it's supposed it
could be for the Lions. Just about any time. I'm
stunned it's Trey Hendrickson's not in the game because at
that time, because he's not.

Speaker 6 (01:24:20):
Yeah, and this is a great play. Last one, real quick,
what do we have dumb truncking somebody again? All right,
let's see. Oh this is gonna be really good. This
is really good.

Speaker 7 (01:24:32):
Let it play, let it run. That's a lot right, Yeah,
oh this is good. But the big boys wrong. Rewind it,
rewind it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:41):
Yeah, we don't want every play we show you have
to be a touchdown or some forty fifty hour player.
This is a simple play you get, I'm gonna run
in motion, he motions a lot playing the z WI receiver.
That gives you in the sense of what the coverage is.
When he rolls over, you see that it's zone bro
And then he does a great job. Just watch this
from around Saint Brown. He knows that he wants to

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be in this alley. He knows that he wants the
ball broughab two yards outside the hash because he wants
to let Pane Sewell get out here.

Speaker 7 (01:25:09):
So that he has an alley. He has a laying
and he has a blocker.

Speaker 6 (01:25:13):
He's not trying to come out here, runway out here,
have no blocker, and the didn't get stopped hit play.
Watch how tight he comes, and watch where Pine Suwel
comes as a result of it.

Speaker 7 (01:25:21):
Watch where his blocker is. Boom boom stops right there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Look look right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
Right on time, rewind it back a little bit. Shell
Loockhouse Movies is legitimately right where he stops. Watch where
Pene comes without even looking at Saint Brown, Watch the
exact spot he's in, and watch what Saint does. We've
called him the best football player. We call him the
best football player for a reason. Things like this, these
little things they go a long way. Hit play stops

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right here and then is not even looking at him.
Watch where Pene gets, and watch where his mary.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Play.

Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
He just went to a spot off. Let's look at that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:00):
He's exactly He's exactly where Pine is about to come
for this block talking about keeping it short and tight,
maximizing how many yards you're getting, not a lot of
dancing and wiggling and looseness.

Speaker 7 (01:26:10):
He turned tight. Shot vertical hit play.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Look at that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
How fast that big man is for a quickness.

Speaker 7 (01:26:16):
Six guys, look at that Boom boom, put a move
on spin move you can't see.

Speaker 6 (01:26:21):
We'll keep going. That's seventeen yards. That's seventeen yards on
the play. If you don't play it right now, you
get nine four six. It's a great job action, great stop.
And then last thing too, rewind it. Look at what
because of Jamiir Gibbs in and out of the backfield.
He's such a pivotal he's such a threat. You look

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at the play with your show. He's wide open before
a touchdown. They missed that, so he's a focal point.
This team is looking at this guy. What is Jamier
Gibbs doing?

Speaker 7 (01:26:54):
Watch the action. Watch how the whole defense shifts to
the right.

Speaker 6 (01:26:58):
Linebackers start to go there because of the action, which
frees up this side and gives more yards hip play Boom,
look at everybody commit that way? You see Look one, two, three,
four or five. Everybody's committing this way except the linebacker
who wants.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
To commit because he's looking that way.

Speaker 7 (01:27:13):
Everybody's committing, So him keeping it tight makes even more
since h play Boom gets it right to him.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Can I bring up one more thing for you? What
you always talk about what White Lions wide receivers do
as well as any other group football. Watch Isaac Teslah
even though he's still engaged with his block all the
way down for we're talking about fifteen yards downfield, still
engaged with his block.

Speaker 7 (01:27:45):
At the end of this play, he play.

Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
This is good man, this is this is a really
good game play since he sucked, but I don't care.
I still like to play as I'm saying and downing
up perfect. But this is also to the difference between
like this is understanding your skill set.

Speaker 7 (01:28:00):
Rewind it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
This is what I love from Ama around Saint Brown.
Rewind the last time we've done. I love this breakdown
by the way, shot out the kol A put these
videos in. See if this is Jamo that catches this,
if this is Jamier Gibbs that catches this. They're going
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(01:28:21):
they get do. I'm on run, saying Brown knows that
on my best day, I might be four or five two.
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something happens because I am shifty I'll take that touchdown
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(01:28:43):
or Jamo, just speed wise, just think in terms of
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Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Penny Suele might have a harder time catching up with them.

Speaker 7 (01:28:55):
If you're Ja, you won't even you don't even need them, right.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
But if you could play that all the way through,
I found it really interesting. Braylen's the one who brought
it up. As we're as we're watching Suill engage, but
Tesla still on his guy right down there, still blocking
right down there, just in case he kept going.

Speaker 6 (01:29:12):
You know what happens as a as a wide receivers coach,
offensive coordinator, running backs coach, what you continue to tell
your wide receivers, your tight ends, no stop blocking when
you have certain players, when you have a Jamiir Gibbs,
when you have a Dave Montgomery, when you have so
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or just because the plays start off or it looked

(01:29:33):
like it was over, they will get out.

Speaker 7 (01:29:35):
Of something and still be going.

Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
And when it comes to film time, I don't want
to hear the excuse. Well, I mean he was way
on the other side. I thought the play was over. No, no, no,
your job is to block until the whistle blows. So
hello was by Isaac.

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Kool Aid still with me?

Speaker 7 (01:36:35):
What up do I got still in the building. It's
still my brother in the building. Brother, I've had a
great show.

Speaker 9 (01:36:39):
The Bretons breakdown was absolutely You got people asking if
you can break down other players too, man, including Joe Flocco.

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
All right, you know, hey, Uli said, Hey, speaking to
Joe Flacco. What's Jill Floko gonna do for the Cincinnati
Bengals this week? Joe Flacco is at the Cincinnati Bengals,
which would tell me that he's the starting quarterback this
week because you're not trading for a forty year.

Speaker 7 (01:36:59):
Old QB just to put him on the bench. He's
going to be a QB one.

Speaker 9 (01:37:02):
You need a QB that can go out there manage
the game appropriately. You know, he understands the NFL, he
understands the defenses. He understands different tricks and a guy
that is going to give you less opportunities to make
a mistake.

Speaker 7 (01:37:13):
I dang, Joe is gonna throw to inceptions of game.
We already know that.

Speaker 6 (01:37:17):
But with that being said, you now have you went
from trying to figure it out on the offensive side
the skilled position for the Cleveland Browns to your running
back is upgraded, Your receivers have upgraded, your tight end
is upgraded. And even I won't say the offensive play
call because Kevin Spanks is a good one as well.
But this isn't a bad look for Joe Flacco.

Speaker 11 (01:37:38):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:37:38):
He one thing he will do is get the ball
down the field. And having why receivers to get the
ball down the field too, It'll be interesting. Who who
the sense you have this week? The Steers stillers.

Speaker 7 (01:37:48):
They have the Packers.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
I'm appreciate, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 7 (01:37:52):
Oh they got the Packers this week.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
Too, and oh against the Packers.

Speaker 7 (01:37:57):
I'm just saying that'll be interesting one more time, just to.

Speaker 5 (01:38:01):
Joe Flacco is gonna go to and oh against the
Packers and he doesn't even play in the same division.

Speaker 6 (01:38:07):
Like if Joe Flacco goes to Green Bay and gets
a w after just being on the team for less
than four days.

Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
I think Matt Lafloor might be on. He might you
have to watch him.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
Wait, you mean the Packers with the greatest team in
the NFL like two weeks ago, and.

Speaker 6 (01:38:22):
Look, mattli Floor man, he might be on, you know
all the watch man if he loses to forty year
old Joe Flacca who's bouncing from team to team and
still getting it done. Uh, you had conversations, I know,
any mail, bad questions, let me know about things like
that or super chats, but there's also a conversation that
you want to get to kul A.

Speaker 9 (01:38:37):
Oh yeah, definitely, I will shout out these super chats
first because people definitely sent them. In Randall Small's he
had a five dollars he says, I said it after
we lost to the Dodgers at the beginning of the season.
I want the Dodgers paid back in six games and
Kimmy Powers a number out.

Speaker 7 (01:38:54):
In the chat, he says, would out say it all chat.
Who do you guys think will finish with more sacks
this season? Muhammad? You know Alkadem Mohammad or James Houston.
So it's funny you bring it up. I'm glad you did.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
By the way, James Houston has been a wrecking ball
down there in Dallas. Like he's making some noise, he's
actually been not necessarily to help them.

Speaker 7 (01:39:14):
Forget about Micah, but you keep them like what happened?
Who's going?

Speaker 6 (01:39:17):
We don't necessarily know. He's been playing well down there,
so they're definitely we saw that. We say him nine
and a half sacks or eight sacks that he had
get limited on the shortened season at that give me
Alkadem Mohammada. Oh mister, are good, mister Mohamed, like I
we're dealing. I think he'll he'll have more than James
Houston will.

Speaker 5 (01:39:38):
Back to that first super check kool aid. Yeah, let's
get through the Mariners first. Let's get to the Mariners.
Let's get through it, and if we win that, get
through the Alcs, and then we can worry about the Dodgers.
The Dodgers are there.

Speaker 6 (01:39:49):
I'm so glad you said that because I wrote down
and just forgot I said get to the Alcs.

Speaker 7 (01:39:53):
But you're absolutely right. Get through the Mariners tomorrow. Let's
start there.

Speaker 6 (01:39:57):
You get through there, then we can worry about the Alcs.
And then from there maybe we can call our shot.
Maybe it's the Dodgers, because I will agree with Randall
on this. After watching the Dodger series, I was actually
motivated to what I believe the Tigers were going into
that series. I think we were waiting to see, Okay,
last year's over the run, the high one around one,
you almost run against the Guardians, what does this year

(01:40:18):
look like? What does the offseason acquisition look like? What's
glabor Tour is gonna be for us? And when you
see them trick off two of the three games.

Speaker 7 (01:40:25):
They tricked off.

Speaker 6 (01:40:26):
Two of those three games, and you see players in
I say, you know what, I think there may be
something to this Detroit Tigers team.

Speaker 7 (01:40:32):
And I want to a.

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
Point that I thought that you and Schef were going
to bring up is in the two elimination games that
the Tigers have had so far this year, Game three
against the Guardians and then yesterday against the Mariners, that's
when we scored the most runs. Our bats have been
the hottest at that point. You could say six runs
in Game three against the Guardians, nine yesterday afternoon. But

(01:40:55):
if facing elimination, the Tigers bats, I know we constantly
complain about them, and rightfully so, but in elimination games,
they've come alive at that point in time and that's
something that's given me a little bit more confidence heading
into tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:41:10):
Yeah, and I was gonna say, you know what, just
before we even move on, you talk about that tomorrow,
you talk about not getting ahead of yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:41:17):
That's why I like the comments from you know, Terry Schooble.

Speaker 9 (01:41:20):
I'm going to play those real quick for the people
because he's ready to go in game five and it's
exactly what we want to see out of our a.

Speaker 7 (01:41:26):
So shout out to Terry's Schooble ready to go again, Scoobs.

Speaker 12 (01:41:30):
Yeah, I mean this is what competition's all about. This
is why you play the game, you know, for game five.
So I mean if you in seven games, right, you
have an opportunity to so three through three against Cleveland,
you know, my last three starts of the year, or
you know two and then first game of the wild card.
But yeah, it's competition, you know, and I think that
that's going to bring out the best and everyone involved,

(01:41:52):
and that's why this game is so beautiful. You know,
we're going to be able to go experience that on Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:41:58):
Yeah, he's definitely calm, he's definitely I'm actually excited for this.
I think he's acting is he's going to be a
leader for this team. He knows he has to step up.
He understands what the first game was when he went
out there necessarily not have his best outing, and he
knows his team is fighting for him all. You know,
towards the end of the season, what we're asking for,
we ask for Give this man some bats, give this
man some moments, give this man some help. So I

(01:42:20):
think now that he's seeing that his team wants to fight,
and he's seen what the game looked like yesterday in
the fifth, sixth, seventh. Any of the guys making players,
whether it's Hobby, whether it's Riley Green with the bomb,
whether it's Glabor Tours. I told you Glabor was the
one that I would go with, But whether it's that
guys are making players for him. So he's gonna go
out there and he's going to pitch a hell of
a game tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (01:42:40):
Doctor Pierce is in the building.

Speaker 5 (01:42:41):
Up.

Speaker 8 (01:42:44):
How you doing, Doc, feel I'm in the Big Seed.

Speaker 7 (01:42:46):
It's like two times in a row we've rotated. Last week,
you're in this year, this week, you're in that year.

Speaker 6 (01:42:51):
Talking about more comfortable over here. I think you're just
more comfortable with me on the show with you. I
think that's more what's good in your world?

Speaker 8 (01:42:59):
What's spend my world? Taking advantage of this weather? Taking
advantage of the weather.

Speaker 7 (01:43:04):
Got a little colder, but it's still sun still.

Speaker 8 (01:43:07):
This is Michigan October. That's I mean, that's another thing
we can talk about. It's just changing weather and injury
prevention and all those kinds of things.

Speaker 7 (01:43:17):
We got some injuries that we want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
But I want to.

Speaker 6 (01:43:20):
I want to I want to ask you about a
certain topic and I want to find out how can
we talk about this? Because like, the more and more
I hear about, the more and more I'm intrigued.

Speaker 7 (01:43:28):
And then I'm like, I know the guy when I
when I'm hearing the conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:43:35):
As it relates to peptides and what they are able
to do and what they can do, what they may do,
What is the conversation from you? How can you have
that conversation and get me understand because everybody seems well
some people seem to be using them, and it seems
to be working for them, and not a lot of
people seem to know about it, if that makes sense.

Speaker 8 (01:43:53):
So how about how far back you want to go?

Speaker 7 (01:43:57):
I mean, look, because I know we're gonna get some
injuries as well.

Speaker 8 (01:44:00):
So yeah, I mean as far as peptide. Yeah, you
hear me talk about secret sauce, those kinds of things,
And I've used that as a as a term to
generalize in a lot of the biologics and what's going on.
Peptize is a big thing. Right now, you're gonna talk
We've talked about exizomes. We start off with PRP play
rich plasma. We start off with stem cell, different types

(01:44:22):
of stem cell. Can we talk about these things? Are
they FDA approved? All these things are not approved. They're
not FDA approved. You've got to be careful, You've got
to be smart. And because the biggest thing I'm gonna
put out there first is there's a lot of peptides
out there that are they got really big because of ozempic.
Ozempic at the end of the day, is a peptide, Okay, Okay,

(01:44:44):
so it's a does call it designer peptides for whatever
we're trying to do. So the problem is that the
industry is growing crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:44:53):
So it's like going so it's like going to Kroger
and getting Matt's apple juice as opposed to getting Kroger apage.

Speaker 8 (01:45:01):
You can't like motts would be the no, because there's
two different things. There's peptides which are are developed in
a lab. Right, This isn't like coming from a plant
or a tree or anything like that. They're being developed
in a lab. But now the purity of the labs
are being I would say questionable. Right, So now now

(01:45:23):
we're going to say not every peptide is created equal.
So is it the generic? Yeah, you have to be careful.
So one we'll start to talk do peptides help We've
seen a lot of clinical data that's showing that it's helpful.
Is it at an fdaight level? No, FD eight lags

(01:45:44):
and there's I can get on my soapbox of hy
pharmaceuticals are living at lag and pushing and you know,
but there's also the purity of helping the majority of
people in the world. Right, we're here to protect The
FDA is here to protect the majority of people. All
peptides for you, I'm not I'm not surprised. We've talked

(01:46:06):
about it in the past. We've talked about your healing rates.

Speaker 6 (01:46:09):
You're talking about I'm trying to live forever. Okay, I'm trying.
I'm trying to live forever, and I'm trying to change
my life. I think for me, the big conversation was
I wanted to get too boring for you guys, but hey,
look this stuff is important. I think for me, it's
the telomere aspect of it. Like I want my telomeres
to look younger than what it is, Like, I don't
want my I'm forty two. I don't want my telomereans
looking and saying fifty, saying forty seven, or even saying

(01:46:31):
forty two, Like I want those telomereans say thirty thirty six,
thirty seven, thirty five.

Speaker 7 (01:46:37):
What's it saying now, I haven't tested in a while,
but I tested two thousand.

Speaker 8 (01:46:43):
Well, you're living genetics and it's gonna make you look younger.
We don't go there.

Speaker 6 (01:46:47):
This is true, This is definitely true, but it's a
good conversation. I feel like I bring it up, but
let me get into some of this.

Speaker 8 (01:46:54):
Just to close it with peptides, you have to be
careful what you're doing. It is advancing great. One of
my buddies is one of the leaders in the country
out of Saint Louis and peptizer going where it's almost designer.
Like a lot of stuff right now is being done
in the neuro so cognition, dementia, concussion, just brain fog

(01:47:17):
and it's and you're seeing a lot of benefit from it.
So there's a lot of ways to take it. But
you got to understand once you start it. Someone use
an example, like I use an example, it's like cutting
your hair. Once you got to keep doing it right,
So it's a love a love, keep doing and when
you stopped, you do you dip And that's where the

(01:47:38):
controversy is right now. A lot of people are saying,
you don't. You don't have a dip after you just
kind of like you just kind of move faster and
the engine's working better, but you don't deplete it, which
a lot of things you can deplete that that generically
said enough.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
To you, did you did?

Speaker 6 (01:47:56):
You said a lot? But I'm gonna ask you another topic.
You're talking about Kouli. Some injuries for the Detroit Lions
not necessarily out for the seasons or out for this game.
But one of the guys I want to focus on
is Taylor Decker. Taylor Decker is a guy you saw
last week and my Jivonni Manuz stepped in, had a
couple of players that he didn't make. That left side
wasn't as sure as it usually is. We went through

(01:48:16):
this similar thing with Frank Ragnow. Frank Ragnow who played
as much as he could for the Lions, and when
he needed that break, when he needed that game off,
he would take a game off and you insert him here.

Speaker 7 (01:48:25):
What for you because that.

Speaker 6 (01:48:27):
Left side is going to be major and we saw
what he was able to do two games ago against
Miles Garrett.

Speaker 7 (01:48:32):
What would be the protocol and procedure for where Taylor
Decker is right now?

Speaker 8 (01:48:36):
You know it's a shoulder injury, right so there's a
lot of anatomy in the shoulder. And he's not saying
there was one thing. There wasn't one injury that put
him out. I think it was an accumulation of stuff
like we're talking. I mean, it's that that jarring where
they got their hands up and they're they're grappling whatever
we're gonna call it up higher and with his shoulder

(01:48:58):
like that. It's got to be a solid joint, right,
we talk about the ball and socket. It's a ball
and socket joint with the big muscles around it, the
rotator cuff muscles. The thing that gets ignored a lot
is the labrom which is the ligament that holds it intight.
We hear about a labor and whatever. It's insignificance. The
rotear cuffs. No, because you keep having looseness or laxity

(01:49:18):
in that joint, you keep moving it, and then it
eventually like here, you can see these are the road
tear cuff. Now we're in it deep there where the
joints coming out. There should be a labrim in there's
does that keep going there?

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:49:34):
These are the roadtearcuff muscles. That's actually adultoid. Yeah, so
we're not seeing it there. That's an injury to the joint.
That's a dislocation. So those are the ligaments that are
pulling and creating that laxity. So he's got any irritation. Look,
he's as strong, he's dedicated everything, So he probably has
a Grade two injury that he's going to play through.

(01:49:58):
But right now, does he have that strength on that
one side, which he's probably lacking because at that point,
you don't want somebody beating you, right, it's all about
being beat on that.

Speaker 6 (01:50:07):
How much can he get how his percentage? How much
can his percentage go up by him resting a couple
of weeks and then coming back, Like what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
Is? It? Is it more? So?

Speaker 6 (01:50:19):
I'm trying to ask the question is if him playing
this week, is it going to impact him to the
point where if he didn't play this week and play
next week, it.

Speaker 7 (01:50:27):
Will be the same.

Speaker 8 (01:50:28):
No rest, I mean you know what?

Speaker 7 (01:50:30):
Yeah, Like in the NF can he injure it more?
Is what I'm saying. That's the question I'm trying to ask.

Speaker 8 (01:50:36):
Can he make it words? Absolutely? When you have a
weak link and they know it, like can't believe in
said it? And we can go into that too with
the Hutchinson with the chop blocking and all that. The
other team knows your medical better than you may know it. Right,
who's week? What's the week's side? Take advantage of it.
They're not like, oh, it's you know, it's shoulder hurts.
Take it a little easier, No, go through them faster.

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He's long and you know, those split seconds makes a difference.
So when the players educated and they know and like
Decker is I mean, Decker's a horse. Nobody's going questions integrity.
He's a horse. When he's coming out, it's telling me, yeah,
he's he's He's not a grade one injury. He's a
Grade two, if not a Grade three. I'm going to
figure out how to get to the end of the season.

(01:51:19):
Avoid You know, we're not talking surgery. He's not bad enough.
Could he go get a clean up and take a
two weeks off? That's probably been debated and put on hold,
but that's kind of where the thought process is for
the medical team. Is it something we can scope quickly
to make him feel better, get like just take the
two to three weeks off, or let's rest and see
what happens. Do a little secret sauce, get him rehab,

(01:51:43):
avoid any re injury. When you're playing, you're getting micro trauma,
Like when you played every day of your football career,
you're getting some micro trauma.

Speaker 7 (01:51:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:51:52):
Micro tra means it's an accumulative thing that leads to it.
Like all these hamstring injuries, where are they all coming from?

Speaker 7 (01:52:00):
Evans He's the guy that's on the list.

Speaker 8 (01:52:01):
Yeah, I mean, you know, with McNeil coming back with Hutch,
I did want to talk about Hutch and and the
watch on the Hutch.

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
But please please do.

Speaker 8 (01:52:12):
Neil Campbell came out pretty annoyed. That did the Lions,
and we we reported here. I think someone asked me
the chop block and sent to the NFL the film
and let's watch this and he said absolutely not. But
he's made a comment in there. It's like, we know
the game. We're doing the same thing. It's the game.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:52:35):
We do have that sound if we if we can
play that for our people, I'll play it for the people.

Speaker 8 (01:52:40):
But he basically says it's our it's the game. You
guys got it up. I don't have my headphones.

Speaker 11 (01:52:49):
That's a bogus report. I don't know where that came from.
Nobody from here ever did that. That's bold.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
I was just I was just curious if you saw
any difference.

Speaker 11 (01:52:58):
No, man, No games played a certain way. That's the
way it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:53:04):
It doesn't matter whether we're doing or somebody else is
doing it to our guys. We know that and we
play accordingly.

Speaker 8 (01:53:11):
Yes, I mean, that's it. That's the mentality of NFL. Right,
He's coming from behind the scenes to in front of
the mic, and just we know the game, we're playing
the game. We know Hutchinson's we gotta protect them. He's
got a weakling. People are gonna go. I think we've
passed that with hutch Hutches, I think, and he's proven
it to the other team. You can do whatever you

(01:53:32):
want to me. I'm coming out strong, I'm going after
your quarterback. I'm slowing you guys down. You're gonna have
to worry about me. So that's the same thing with
all these injuries. Deckers injury, the hamstring injury, Arnold's shoulder injury.
The other team knows what's going on, just like we
know with Kansas City's injuries. Kansas City's got a boatload

(01:53:53):
of injuries right now too.

Speaker 7 (01:53:55):
The league has a boatload of injury. And it seems
like it's every year.

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
It seems that whatever it is, the lack of understanding
how to practice, whether you're practicing too little, whether you're
practicing too much, whether you're focusing specifically on the same muscle,
the same thing three hundred.

Speaker 7 (01:54:08):
And sixty five, what could it be done? I'm the
age old question.

Speaker 8 (01:54:13):
But it's the hams. We're hearing hamstring a lot, and
it's keeping people out further.

Speaker 7 (01:54:18):
That's not warming up.

Speaker 8 (01:54:19):
That's not right. It's not warming it's not proper dynamic
warm up. But also I can go to your training
if you're looking to be so powerful, and some of
these power guys that are lifting, I'm not picking on
them the training team, but they like to see that
big bulk. I want to see a big bulk in
full range of motion. So what I'm saying when they're
doing their hamstring curls, are they getting full length into

(01:54:42):
that muscle? Because when you tighten up, when you when
you create a massive muscle in a shortened position. My
best example is always the guys in the gym there
like this and they can't go further than this with
their army. Well eventually they're gonna when they go and
grab their one hundred pound dumbbell, they fully lengthen it
and it's and it rips the muscle. So is that

(01:55:04):
what's happening in some of these hamstrings? Do we have
full length of the muscle and are we training on
the full length of Are you doing the short bursts
or you know I'm putting up four point fifty going there.

Speaker 7 (01:55:17):
It's different.

Speaker 8 (01:55:18):
Great, So yeah, I mean this is hamstring. This is
the show. My big thing with this is that don't
understand the hamstring muscle. It's multiple muscle accumulation of multiple
muscles that goes from the back of your knee to
your buttocks. And you see the big glute there and
when you get overpowering glutes and if you don't balance
your hamstring, you're creating weakness. Muscle balance is huge. Muscle

(01:55:40):
lengthing is huge. For all those young people training right now.
It's great to get to short bursts and you want
to build up your bicep to show it good. I mean,
this guy right here is a physical specimen of it.
But the whole thing is you have to go very
slow when you work out properly. It's a slow, full
extension of that muscle. You want to exercise that muscle fully,

(01:56:02):
do it, but you're also not going out in combat
at once a week, right, So, Like, I know I
have a ham my. Left hamstring is not healthy, but
I'm not going to fight anybody to prove that. When
these guys feel a little twitch, they gotta understand am
I rambling too much?

Speaker 7 (01:56:19):
No, you're not rambling too much.

Speaker 14 (01:56:21):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:56:22):
The audio went out on my headphone, so I had
to turn them off. Let me ask you a quick
question about the NFL Jared Goff Matt Stafford before we
get it fut here. Matt Stafford is on pace to
pass Jared Goff and career wins by Rams quarterback as.

Speaker 7 (01:56:33):
Early as the season.

Speaker 6 (01:56:35):
Jared Goff, meanwhile, is also on pace to pass Matt
Stafford for kawin wins as a Lion's quarterback as in
twenty twenty six. Just talk about that trade as a whole. Obviously.
Matt Stafford, he leaves Detroit, He's unhappy. He goes out
to La seems to have made a home for himself.
Super Bowl Champion, super Bowl win. He's in favor right
now to win MVP. Excuse me, he's in talks to

(01:56:57):
win MVP. And on the opposite side you have a
quarterback and Jared Golf. He comes here pretty much career
seems like it may be going the wrong way. He's
going to the wrong city. This is one of those
cities where it's a throwaway, but instead he finds a
way to revive his career and he's operating to the
tune where he also has been mentioned in MVPs and
his team also has been to the NFC Championship and
become TOMPs in the league.

Speaker 7 (01:57:17):
Just talk about that deal. Did everybody win in that deal?
Golf and Stafford just put it, bid it to be
it once a throw.

Speaker 8 (01:57:24):
I think from the whole aspect of it, after Golf
got over what he felt was maybe an insult you got.
It's like anything in business. This is no different than
any other business. Right, you can have all the talent
in the world, but if you're not in the right seat,
with the right teammates and the right players, you're not

(01:57:45):
gonna be successful. They've both gone to a program where
they click a little bit more right. Nobody's gonna question
any of their skill level, any of their integrity, any
of their want to be out there, and they're willing
to win. They both are at the top of the game.
Are they a Tom Brady. No, everybody strives to be
a Tom Brady, but they are in a system that

(01:58:06):
works for them. Dan Campbell works for Golf. I can't
they worked. I mean they bonded at some on the beach,
but it is. It's energies, it's energies at work, it's
it's your click, it's your shorthand communication. That's a lot
of medical, it's a lot of science. So it's a

(01:58:27):
lot of a lot of energy. So we can just say,
and you know, it's the verbal secret sauce. You don't
need to say when when you click with somebody and
it's there. I think that's the end of the day.
That's the answer. It's a better fit for both of them.

Speaker 6 (01:58:41):
I also I agree, and I also think that they
I think kool a this is low key stuff. I
think they secretly motivate each other. In his past five years,
the past four years, you look at mess Stafford. He
gets out and his mind finally got an opportunity to
play in the space where I believe like I have
some success. He wins the Super Bowl that year. Jared
Golf's watching. He's the arterback that got thrown away. He

(01:59:01):
called Sean McVay. First person to call Sean Bay after
he wins the Super.

Speaker 7 (01:59:05):
Bowls Jared Golf. That's a message.

Speaker 6 (01:59:06):
Sean McVay says that now Jared Goff is watching like man,
it's got kan to my team. And won the Super Bowl.
This got Kane to the space where I was when
he said that I wasn't anything, and then he wins
the Super Bowl. Jared Goff rededicates itself. Now he's trying
to charge the hit. Now he's trying to prove that
it's not over with him. He starts to reach success.
He takes his team to the NFC Championship two years later.
Now you got Stafford. He's looking at Jared Goff like, dang,

(01:59:29):
I won a super Bowl, but then we fall off,
we don't make the playoff. I think inadvertently these two
are motivating each other. For the lack of better words,
over the last three four years, they have consistently, whether
they know it or not, motivating each other.

Speaker 8 (01:59:41):
I think you're a hundred percent right.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:59:43):
You take a lot of players like a Kobe or
Michael Jordan. They want people to elevate their game. You know,
I always refer to Gerlan because that's my best reference.
He loves me all the top players because it challenged
him to become a better player. He like Doctor j
and Gervin. It's well known Gervan's game would have never

(02:00:04):
been the way it was if if doctor Jayden beat
him up every day after practice. You know, it's who's elevating,
who's your motivation? And it's not just the NFL, it's
in life. Who's the employee that's going to motivate you,
who's the one that's there before you? Who do you
want to emulate? And I think you're one hundred percent right.
I think with Stafford, could his career just fade away?

(02:00:27):
He could have, but he's he's not doing it. He's
coming through back injuries. He's playing through injuries. That guy
will be hobbling around later in life unless we give
him some peptide to preventative.

Speaker 7 (02:00:38):
Who do you emulate in life? And who motivates you
in life?

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
Wise?

Speaker 6 (02:00:42):
Words by doctor Jeff Peers, who's on the show every Thursday.

Speaker 7 (02:00:45):
He is our injury. I got for him real quick one.
All right, now, come on.

Speaker 6 (02:00:51):
Some change Thursday. Let me get to my Thursday night football.
Dealing with you for four days.

Speaker 7 (02:01:02):
Messing with him.

Speaker 9 (02:01:03):
Look, look they got a lead McDill full participant in practice.
Now the last several ones they say it was a full.
Now he's fully cleared.

Speaker 3 (02:01:10):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:01:11):
Just if there's anything you can talk about, that's our.

Speaker 3 (02:01:13):
Show with his return.

Speaker 8 (02:01:15):
I hardly mc neil. He's been full practice, full practice.
This guy's gonna come back like a force. Yeah, I
mean he's gonna be a little bit slow, Kyle. Like
I said, he's gotta take the first couple of hits.
It's gonna take a couple of games to get his rhythm.
I'm predicting by game three or four of him being back,
he's gonna have his rhythm and you know, making a

(02:01:36):
real impact for the team.

Speaker 6 (02:01:38):
And you know, me and Doc say three games to
four games. We mean three games of four games, because
what did eight and Hunchesson look like in his fourth game?

Speaker 3 (02:01:45):
You got it.

Speaker 7 (02:01:45):
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