Tigers DONE?! | Lions in CRUISE CONTROL! | The Braylon Edwards Show w/ Shep | October 7th, 2025

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Speaker 4 (00:51):
Game Day, Yeah, Game three, Tigers and Mariners getting ready
to square off. I'm not sure Brailan Edwards can get
a whole lot more Tigers gear on his body.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
It's an orange out, you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Look? Is it an orange?

Speaker 5 (01:03):
They're calling the time out today and the weather finally permits.
It is an orange out, So I had to go
rock and road. Shouts to my boy John, you excited.
You know when I wear like lion stuff. It's really fraudy.
I'm wearing lion stuff for the city of Detroit.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
It's what you said, Fraugile's fraudulent, like James Franklin, James Frau,
I got fraudule, James James Frogley.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's farden because I'm trying to connect with the city.
I love the city of Detroit. I'm born here, so
I wear the Lion stuff. But y'all know I'm a jet.
You guys know I've never played for the Lions. You
know where are my Tigers gear?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
See?

Speaker 5 (01:36):
This is authentic, Like, this is me actually being one
with the people. This is me being born.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
A year before we win the World Series.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
So when I wear the colors, even more excited than
went on lion of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
This is right here.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
This is authentic.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
You realize every sweatshirt it says whatever team built for fall, right,
I mean that's the MLB Caps.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
This is legit to it's got this the postseason. I
know you can't see it.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Let me get over here.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
This is the postseason.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Do you think they're built for fall?

Speaker 5 (02:03):
They are legitimately two games away from being in the ALCS,
So yes, I think we got to stop looking at
in terms of what the Tigers have done, what the
collapse was, et cetera. Their tie right now with the
Seattle Mariners, with a chance to take the lead here
at home and actually not even leave the city of
Detroit to get to the ALCS. So when you look
at it through that lens, yes, they're built to be here. Okay,

(02:27):
I don't know. You weren't expecting that, huh No.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I think built for fall means that you're getting to
the World Series. You're built for the big moments.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
First of Fall was technically nine days ago. So they're
built for fall. Fall meaning fall ball got through the
first round of the playoffs. This is a chance to
get to the ALCS. I think if you get to
the ALCS, if you get to the conference Championship in
any you know, in any professional level, it's you at

(02:56):
least got there, Like this makes you built for fall,
makes you built for the postseedson.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
So yee, if you don't have a bye week, we
have different we have different views of it. I get
the sense, I don't want to take words out of
your mouth. I get the sense that if they beat Seattle,
it's been a successful season for you. Okay, hell yeah, okay.
For me, that's it's just not the case. It's not
the case at all. And I am tired of people
telling me that's how I should feel and that's the

(03:22):
way it is, and all this other crap. This division
was winnable, you were in comfortably controlling situations with it.
You should have gone further a year ago. Your roster
is better, it could have been even better. But I'm
not going to dealt dwell on the trade deadline, this
whole Kumbai yah crap of everything's good because we're ahead

(03:45):
of schedule, we're playing with house money. I'm happy because
they're here. You haven't won a fricking World Series in
forty one years, So if your bar is that low,
good for you. My bar's a lot higher. I don't
think Let's hope they're built for fall. Bet be built
for fall. They should have been built for fall last year.
This tagline of built for fall this year, Let's hope

(04:05):
it comes true, and I hope they do. I hope
they win the next two games and they're into the ALCS.
All we've been told all season long is that the
American League is wide open. All we were told all
season long. The baseball's wide open. Remember the Dodgers weren't
as good. Philly loses Zach Wheeler a big How many
people really believe in the Brewers? Come on, man, at

(04:27):
some point, can we just say if we could be
disappointed with the Lions last year, fifteen to two, home
field advantage, all that other stuff, we can't be disappointed
now because they're in the playoffs. For the Tigers, I
think that's bull crap.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
I just look at it through this lands and you're
free to feel how you want to, and I understand it.
Like you told me how you felt about the Tigers team,
not this year, last year, before the season, and.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
What you felt they were.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
You felt like they were a team that couets to
alcs last season, where most people were like, what it
was lucky we got there. So I understand that ten
years before last year we hadn't been to the playoff.
That was the last time we had been to the
playoffs for last season was ten years before that. Miserable
season after miserable season after miserable season after player are gone,
after new GM after new owner, excuse me, not new owner, but.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
You get to that live through saying, you get just.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
What I'm saying, and I'm looking at through this lens. Look,
you made to the postseason last season, I still didn't
necessarily lead this team was gonna win the World Series.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
This year.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
I thought I was hoping they got to the ALCS.
I believe they could get to the ALCS, and here
we are. They still have a chance to get to
the ALCS. A lot of concerns that I had throughout
the season were the same reason why I didn't feel
as though they would win the ALCS or they would
win the World Series. So I still feel those same ways,
and I feel like they've shown their ugly head at
the end of the season and then a little bit

(05:39):
in the second game of the actually both games really,
even the one we won. So I'm looking at it
as look, yes, there's an individual if you want to
say about what they did not do to be built,
because the person that builds teams, well it's the GM
president and coach. More so GM the guys bringing players in.
Maybe not in that regard. They left out at the

(06:01):
trade deadline. There were moves that they didn't make that
could help this roster. More So, if you say that
they're not built, I can understand that, Lens, but they're here.
They have an opportunity to get in the past. I
mean to get to the next round and from the
player's point of view. From the player's point of view,
they've been here before, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
They should for sure. When I look at it, I
also see six All Stars. Whether you think they were
deserving or not. You're not taking that off their resume, can't. Okay,
Baseball Reference has the number of All Star appearances. Those
guys are roll in all right, and we all believe
that they have the best manager in baseball. If that's
the case, and we're not going to dispute that, I

(06:42):
think they should go further. If the expectations for me
were to get to the World Series, and the reason
those expectations were for me is because it was a
much more winnable division and it was a much more
winnable league. The teams that made moves to the deadline
doesn't automatically mean they're going to get there. Low New
York Yankees down two games to none to Toronto, hosting

(07:03):
Toronto tonight. Made some acquisitions in the offseason and at
the trade deadline, so I'm not gonna go revisionist history
in that regard. I'm talking about right now. This team's
got to be better with runners in scoring position. I
hope they are. I hope the weather doesn't play much
of a factor. I hope Jack Flaherty gives you six
strong innings tonight, and I hope they win the next

(07:24):
two games at home and then get ready for Toronto
wan to be a hell of invasion between Detroit and Toronto,
a rematch of nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Can I say this, Yeah, my meter isn't going to
expect more. My meter isn't going to say this is
what they should have done in relation to this, until
you're looking at six guys that line up in the
same freaking spot every single game, line up in the
same spot every single game. Seven guys that are in
the same spot, the roster not changing today, carry Carpenter's

(07:51):
batting first in rotation today.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Now, so it's been this hodgepodge.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Of you play here, you play there, where you're not
playing where you play, kind of like the pitching thing
was for them that had success, like the Lions towards
the end of season. On defense, well this guy's out,
you're here you're here. So until I feel a sense
of stability, a consistency, I can't be mad at a
team that falls apart, falls short when this is what
I see them as. Like we just had this conversation

(08:18):
the other day talking about what the Phillies are, talking
about what you're used to saying, Like, when you turn
the Phillies on, that roster's gonna look the same way
every single night. You may have one or.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Two tweaks, six or seven guys there you.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Go, six or seven, you have six or seven guys
the Tigers, it's it's two to three and then it
rotates and then it moves.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Well just but but as you know, I mean, just
because they're batting in a different part of the order
doesn't mean that they're not an everyday player play.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
And once again this is me, maybe a novice, maybe
leaning on the expertise of you, but like, is that
normal how often they have players in different positions?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Or it is for this guy and it is for
this team, and it's it's been successful for him. He
and I used to have conversations about this all the
time when he was in Houston and who he had
and how you knew Altuve was going to lead off,
and then it was going to Springer, and then it
was going to be Korea, and then it was going
to be this guy and this guy. That's convenient with
this team because of the splits, because of Carrie Carpenter

(09:16):
against right e's and Carry Carpenter against lefties, and Riley
Green against lefties and Riley Green, and looking at those numbers,
there are going to be a lot of changes. Carry
Carpenter sometimes hits first, and sometimes he will hit third
or fourth. Parker Metto sometimes may lead off, and sometimes
he will hit near the bottom of the order. A
lot of it has to do with what he expects

(09:37):
from in this case, Dan Wilson, the manager of the Mariners,
and who's coming in relief. So if today is Logan Gilbert,
and in relief you get a Gabe Spier, you get
a Caleb Ferguson. A lot may depend on where he
goes with his lineup and how he has set his
lineup thinking about what moves are going to be made.

(09:58):
So in that regard, that's why I always say I
think he's brilliant. I think a J. Hinch is absolutely
brilliant when it comes to that stuff. It's up to
the players to perform, and let's hope they do perform tomorrow.
That now, the first pitch is supposed to be about
four o'clock, right a little bit after four o'clock. Mother
nature does not look like she's cooperating right now. Looks
pretty cold. This goes back to my constant complaint that

(10:19):
every team in Major League Baseball should have a retractable roof.
And it's not just for players, but it's for fans.
If this is a fan friendly game, then you want
people to be able to plot out their day. Braylan's
gonna go to the game tonight, Well, he makes all
kinds of adjustments to his schedule, ugly day. Maybe he

(10:40):
won't be able to go because he takes this off,
this time off, and then suddenly he goes and it's
canceled or delayed.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
It says rain's gonna stop at four thirty.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
So good.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Maybe they'll get there realize that, Yeah, I'm gonna go
down to the game where theas I'm tempt I'm a
head down there. If it looks a little better this
right here, I wouldn't go. Yeah, if this is what
it looked like. Look, I love my time. You heard
what I'm saying beforehand. But this right here, my tickets
are outside.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
It's just all outside.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
I'm not interested getting rained on.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Isn't it interesting in football? Maybe it's because of the mindset.
In football, we know we're gonna get inclement weather depending
on where we are, but of course in Detroit we are.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
I got to stop you there, like this is speaking
just for me, Like because of the access, I'm not
going to the game outside I was, I am, I
am an s U I t E got.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Sweep s U I t e. Well you played enough
outdoors where you've paid your dues.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
I do like I like the access man, Like if
I'm gonna go to a game, like outside of the Jets,
like I'm going to game is to engage in other things.
Outside of the game is to meet people. It's networking
something like that. So I like bathroom on that, food on,
drinks on that, and also an easy exit when I'm

(11:58):
ready to dip about it.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
I don't blame you. I mean that's the ideal situation.
Not everybody can do that, unfortunately, But like I said,
you've paid your dues. But I think in football, because
we have the mindset at least in the Midwest and
out east that football is gonna be played outdoors, we
better bring a bundle up, right. Whereas baseball starts, it's

(12:20):
a little chilly when it starts, but I mean for
the most part, it's nice and warm. We're used to
that when we hit this time of year. As much
as we love the playoffs, I mean, it gets it
gets a little challenging for folks, don't you think.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
I think also to it depends on where your ball
club is, because I don't think this weather bothers your
ball club. We're talking about the twenty thirteen Tigers. I
don't think this weather bothers is you if it's you know,
certain teams that you know are getting to the alcs,
so you just support because they're good. Every year, you know,
every year is a chance. I think a lot of
people still trying to see what the Tigers are. So

(12:52):
you get a lot of people's like, yes, I'm.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Glad we're here, but i'll watch it on TV.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Let the Tigers. Let the Tigers get to the World
Series next year. Like fans are coming out in every game,
doesn't matter. I think that depends on the level of
like the Lions the Lions showed you, hey, we can
get to the big dance, we can get to the
big thing. You will go see the Lions. Whatever different
in football.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
But what do you think it'll be like in New
York tonight? Knowing that the Yankees are down to zip
to Toronto and just so people for some historical significance
in a best of five series, when a team is
down to nothing, or let's put it this way, when
a team is up to nothing in the best of
five in postseason play, that team is eighty and ten

(13:36):
with fifty four sweeps. Eighty and ten all time fifty
four sweeps. Yeah, so if New York and it's just
as cold in New York, probably damp in New York
and looked at the weather forecast there, do you think
that they're sold out try to steal a game against
Toronto here tonight?

Speaker 5 (13:53):
They're definitely the Chapel excuse me, the Cathedral is definitely
sold out. However, there there's an optimism, there's not true belief.
Like the Yankees fans know what their team is. They
know every year and that's why you saw last year
them celebrate or two years ago and he celebrated and
he got out the first round. Yeah, like you see that.
So they know their team's not good. They know their
team is not gonna win it all. So they'll be there,

(14:17):
but they'll know like this is it.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Let me ask you this quick question, because I think
the guy's an awesome player. I think he's a Hall
of Fame player. He's been around for ten years. Said, oh, okay,
you for sure Aaron Judge has struggled again. How much
do we blame him? And how much do we blame
Aaron Boone slash the rest of the team on the

(14:40):
New York Yankees.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
I would do this in this equation. This used to
come up a lot because Max used to sit in
that chair. What's up, mass love you brothers. He's sitting
that chair. You know he's a New Yorker. He talks
it gnaws him about the Yankees and the twenty seven
titles and Yogi Beart blah blah blah. Roger Merris did this.
Who cares, but he's always talked about the Yankees in
the last seven eighty years into the tent. They haven't
done enough. They don't have relief pitching. They're gonna botch it.

(15:04):
I don't like Aaron Boone, Like Aaron Boone is just
not the best manager, Like mass can take you through
all these things and they play out exactly like he says.
So for him to say that, let me just take
Aaron Judge out of the equation, like it's this is
what they do. This is what Aaron Boone has done
even before Aaron Judges got there. This is what he does.
This is what the baseball has been. And it seems

(15:25):
like whenever they get into the post, he's the last year.
Now they make it all the way to the dance,
but they get cooked in a gentleman's sweep almost. He's
operating on a team that consistently does that. At some point,
you play into it. At some point your play is
not gonna stay just above head and showers above everybody else.
You're mental and everything else that goes into the equation.

(15:46):
You feed into it too. It takes your play down. Wow,
like Aaron Judges operated at this space. If you take
Aaron Judge off the.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
New York but Aaron Judge was there before Aaron Boone
was true.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Apologies, so misinformation, but Aaron Judge, it's have to operate
at this level all the time. Without help in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, I get it. He better win to eighty four
last year, though, I mean that's a that's a stark,
stark difference to what Aaran does off that team.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
They don't make the post this year, the year before that,
year before that. So what I'm saying is maybe everything
that he has to do for the one hundred and
sixty two to get to the postseason is mentally taxi.
He's not the first player to have to go through that,
So I'm not making excuses for him. He's not He's
not new to that because the captain, My captain had
to do it, a Rod had to do it, They

(16:34):
all had to do it. But I'm just saying it
was a lot of those guys. They had a lot
of guys with them to help that. With him, it's
like him and you gotta hope Solo last year has
a good night or lives up to what he's supposed
to be. You gotta hope Jazz Chisham plays a little
bit outside his s crews. You gotta hope Volpi last
year is not gonna give the game up like you did.
Like it's a lot of hoping for the Yankees at

(16:54):
some point in ways your mental down, like damn, can
somebody help?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Okay, I mean that's that's a great perspective. I really
appreciate that. I guess it's hard to You're not asking
people to feel sorry for him, but it's it's hard
to sit there and use that excuse for a guy
because people immediately bring up the money, which is not
always fair, bring up the fact that he wanted to
stay in New York. That's that's the fish bowl that

(17:18):
you've chosen to live in, and that your numbers just
aren't very good. And though other people's numbers may not be.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Good either, to you're the numbers. Your numbers matter, You're
the Yours are the ones.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
That too much as given much as expected.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
And I think he understands that, and he lives with that,
and I think he does a really good job of
handling it. But he is a guy that if he
strikes out tonight in his first at bat, he's gonna
hear Bronx cheers. He's okay. And I don't think Tigers
fans do that as much, not nearly. I know they
don't nearly as much with some of their guys. You
know what, I mean, I'm not even advocating.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
For it, like a like a like a Maggy maybe
would be the only only guy on the level of
Aaron Judge.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's really hard for
people to boo Miguel Cabrera when he won a triple
crown and was considered arguably I think Albert pool Hoost
was but the best right handed hitter of his era,
maybe the best right hand hitter of all time.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
I think cities like New York too, that also spoiled.
They have so much to pull from. They have so
many players, you know what I'm saying, to pull from
where you can just forget about what a guy is
doing and you can just point to you get paid,
you should be doing it, which he should. In Detroit,
maybe it's like that because we don't have too many.
So when you get a guy, it's like, nah, I
don't care what you say about my guy. I'm a
blind support. I'm gonna just keep doubling down and tripling down.

(18:38):
And I know he maybe doesn't deserve this excuse right here,
let me go ahead and slide that in there right
there and give him a little out. Hey, you want
to phone a friend. Yeah, why don't you phone me,
Miguel Carbret and let me talk stuff in your behalf.
I think because we don't have it. We didn't have
that many and for a while we didn't have any,
especially in that sport.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, for clarification, Joseph, people aware, and again we're not
picking on you. Hear and Judge. I like him a lot.
Been the playoffs eight years. Okay, he's played sixty three
games his career batting postseason batting averages two twenty three.
And in the sixty three games, he has struck out
ninety times. Dude, ninety And then immediately you're like, well,

(19:18):
it doesn't matter if he's hitting homers. He's got sixteen
bombs in sixty three kicks, So those are his career
back power. At some point, what's that?

Speaker 6 (19:26):
What's that power? Stats brought to you by said.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Well, at some point you're gonna have the discussion. Now
we're not. We don't have that discussion about any of
Detroit's players. We did about Matthew Stafford, we did about
Calvin Johnson to a certain extent. Hell, we did about
Barry Sanders. Okay, there are certain guys I don't want
to call it a pass.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Because Barry has a sea ways saying in playoffs Barry
didn't have the best dats.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Is that where you're going? Yes, yes, we didn't hold
it against him. We still think he's the greatest running
back of all time and he years we looked at
everybody else and said it's their fault, not his. We
never said that while he was rushing for twenty and
fifty three yards, but we did when he wasn't doing well.
And that's the feeling I get sometimes, whether Areon Judge

(20:13):
or Mike Trout, or certain superstars, if they're not excelling,
if their team isn't excelling, it's everybody else. But when
they're doing really well, it's him. The only reason they're there.
I've said it too, By the way, this is not
at you. I've said it the only reason the Yankees
are there, Aaron Judge. But when they don't win, we
go we it's everybody else. You can't have it both ways.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think also too, like this this air right now, Spenny,
this air too just looking like the nil what up?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Though?

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Nil?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Collective?

Speaker 5 (20:40):
You look at the transfer portal, you look at which
way coaches are higher, coaches are fire the money has
gone up, like there's a lot of pressure now and
it comes faster, a lot of now we need to
have it now, which deservingly so, like you've had enough opportunity,
you should should have performed by now it's now. Everything
has to be now. Two hundred and fifty people are
counting your chicken.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Now.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
He didn't do that with Barry Sanders, right, Barry wasn't
getting paid like that. You with Stafford where he was
making it wasn'tetting paid like that. I mean the first
time he becomes a high speed quarterback within a week,
four or five six guys that passed him. So I
think that money and the angst on now it has
to be now, you got to get it now. I
think that's why you see people because when you put
on like Aaron Judges put on, when you do the

(21:21):
things that he has done. I mean, you just look
at his stats, and I know it's not all about
stats because you got to get some wins in the postseason,
but the numbers are freaking insane, Like the numbers are
legitimately insane. When you look at the categories of things
and where he's at, it's almost like video game MLB
so I think back in the day that was enough

(21:42):
to get people to be like, hey, look man, Lee
Barry alone. Yeah, hey man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
If I'm going to bring it up with Clayton Kershaw
and I did yesterday thirteen and thirteen all time with
an close to five, it's okay to say, you know what,
Aaron Judge on his playoff teams, they're nine to eight
and you've got to be a difference to make.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
You can't be that bad as a superstar because it's not.
This isn't a player which we're talking about as an
All Star. This isn't a player we're talking about is
a damn good player top ten. This is a player
we're talk about has been the best player in baseball
named shoehal tiny or you can go back and forth,
or you can say he is over shoal time for
the last five six years in a row. So at
some point Water has to find this level. And it

(22:19):
has same thing with a Rod like and I just
said that yesterday until two thousand and nine, a Rod
will go to the post. He's legitimately the most gifted
player in baseball.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
For a periods. Excuse me.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Okay, he was the most gifted player at the time
on steroids. But this is factual information, so chef's not.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
This is real.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Go look it up.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
I watched the document on Netflix. Is a damn good one.
How he got caught. But anyway, he did all that,
got all the money. He got paid two hundred million
twice before he finally got a home run.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Nobody's ever done that. By the way, nobody has ever
signed two contracts for.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Two hundred dollars except them, except.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Him, Except him. I mean, some guys have gone seven
hundred million, like Juan Soto, how is that working out
for the Mets and Shoheo Tani, But no one did
the two hundred twice. It's I'm fascinating from us from
an athlete, a professional athlete's point of view on the
youth aspect of it. That's the way sports is going.

(23:20):
We're seeing young guys. I don't care if it's Bryce
Young or Drake may or whomever being thrust into a
position because of where they're being drafted. Tate Ratlicch drafted
second round. Let's put him in there right away. Those
guys should be able to play we're not afraid to
use young guys. We used the example yesterday in the
baseball postseason, the guys who have started games, whether it
be Schlitzler early, whatever. Why don't the Tigers do that?

(23:44):
Do you think they did it with Troy Melton in
Game one against Seattle and it was pretty good. But
why don't you think they're willing to do that quite
as much? What do you do to your thoughts? Well,
I think they have conveniently used their fury man roster
is an excuse, and I think they've conveniently signed guys

(24:04):
who just are placeholders for certain positions until young guys
are coming. It's one of the reasons I was so
excited about the Pistons a year ago. I know it's
a different sport. Okay, the Pistons a year ago and
saying we're gonna do this, we're gonna use our young
guys and we're going to gain some experience and see
what they've got. That's easy for me to say. My

(24:27):
job is not on the line, but this is what
I love about what the Red Wings are doing. Most
Ciders twenty four Albert Johansson's twenty four Lucas Raymond's twenty three,
Simon Evanson's twenty two, Marco Casper's twenty one, Axel Sandem
Pelican is twenty Emmett Finney is twenty Michael brand seig

(24:50):
Nigard is twenty May. This may be a tough year
for these dudes, but this is the future and they're
in now.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
You know this. I was like, and I'm glad, I'll
let you go first. I was able to collect my thoughts.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
This sounds like one GM he's not worried about getting fired,
the other GM he is. So when you start using
the young players, now the clock starts. Yes, when you
start using young players now, it's like, oh, shoot, you
use your young player, you're on the clock. So what
happens in their play? What happens with the wins and losses,
what happens with the success or the lack? They're up
Now that its directly on you, it's no going back.

(25:25):
It's not pointing to the past. It's not what we're
still letting the farm system developed. When you start playing
the young players, once they get green lit, guess what
now we can criticize you now all that high and
Scott Harrison that cute stuff. No, no, no, come to us.
We have real questions. Stevie Eisman, he ain't getting fired,
so he doesn't mind playing these young guys who look, they'll.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Figure it out.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
And these are the young guys want to get. He's
the one who drafted them one that would be the
difference one guys. No, he's not going anywhere the other
guys like, once I start, I can't put the genie
back in the bottom.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
I love that really good stuff. Always excited to hear
what you have to say in the chat, so especially
the super chats. Kool Aid will chime in anytime we
get some of that stuff, just out of curiosity. Yesterday,
you wore a Detroit bad boy's hat. I believe really
sharp flat lid. This one is a flat lid as well.
Kool Aid wears the flat lid. Ryan doesn't wear a

(26:19):
hat when I wear a hat, and I make sure
the first thing I do when I get a hat, Yeah,
I do that. So why do you like the what
is the flat lid? Is that what you call a
flat lit? What would you call it? Kool Aid? What
do you call these?

Speaker 5 (26:33):
I call it rappers brim okay.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Rappers, brim well, there you go. That makes a lot
more sense why I am said, okay, why the rappers
brim compared to what would you call the other one?
Just a bend a.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Warning cat, okay warning. Yeah, I did that growing up
the whole nine yards. You do that, getting nice and
smooth and get bended down a little bit, get the look.
When I was younger, I think first time I got
to it was it was a hole like jay Z
started wing, like watching his hats, his NY hats. He

(27:05):
had Chris brim. This is when I started getting the
wrapped and maybe like sixteen seventeen when I started deep
diving to jay Z. Jay Z kept the white T
shirt and he kept the New York brim. So I
was like, well, maybe I should be more crispy. Maybe
maybe I don't do it like this anymore. Maybe that's
just for sports. So I started doing it like that.
But it was rap influence while I did. And then

(27:26):
you see all the ball players back then AI whenever
you would seeing they weren't wearing the tucked in fitted
from the early nineties and eighties, they took it to
the straight brim. So you know I influenced.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
And how about the is it not the logo. What's
on top of that brim? Right there? You keep the size?
Why is that sticker?

Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's clean, it's clean. I stopped taking the tag off.
Maybe when I got to college and some of the
old hiss Larry Foot, Victor Hobson, Dave Terrell would come back,
they were like that, they would.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Keep the gotcha.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
I felt so bad.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Man.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
The influence is always when somebody influences everything you do,
whether you believe it or whether you're honest and that No,
you're right.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I think you're.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Somebody influences everything. You know, those the Big Brothers influence you.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
You look good in it. I mean I couldn't get
away with that, but you do. You look really good
in it.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
I kind of want to see chef.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
No, you don't. I fell back, trust me, Why I
tell you it's possible. Why did you take yours off?
Did it just fall off? If it fell off, but
you did have it on? How about underneath the bill?
Because he still has his underneath the bills all the
price and everything. I look, if you're leaving price tags
on your you know, wearables or whatever, like my sister

(28:41):
does for Christmas, Hi, Merry Christmas. Oh this was this much. Oh,
I'm sorry. I left the tag and she always leaves
it on the one you know, do you keep your
Do you keep that on too kool aid underneath the lid?

Speaker 6 (28:53):
Sometimes I do? Sometimes I do.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
I will admit that one will the hologram one though?

Speaker 4 (29:04):
You keep the hologram on?

Speaker 6 (29:06):
Why is that it's a part of the whole.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
It doesn't. It doesn't bother your eyes when you're looking
around and stuff at hell, like cornerback's hand in his
face wouldn't bother is so kool aid? You had your set,
but it just fell off yesterday.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Oh yeah, you you.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Wear you're so often that it falls off.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
That's about it, man, That's about it.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Man.

Speaker 8 (29:33):
This hat goes everywhere. I usually have one hat part season.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, I love Do you like the white English Sea
the orange English? I will say this, I get Braila
a ton of credit. I mean, he is he is matched,
he is very he's ready, he does have the I
know he's got the shoes too.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
It must be the shoes, little orange and the sneaks.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Take one off. You got the people what they want
right here?

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Come on, come on, we're gonna talk about how slow
Devin Lloyd looked on that uh interception.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Time Loretty good.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
He looked great.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
But that was the slowest pick six I've ever seen
in my life. And it was ninety nine yards. So
kudos to him because that ties the record NFL.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
It was slow. It was slower than James Harrison. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
And it took James Harris for ever getting that in zone.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I was like, come on, dude, mab I mean he
was weaving.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
He started looking slow in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, well he was slow enough where no one could
catch him. What do the show with people? Yeah, it
must be the shoes, that is Can I use the
kool aid term here? That is fresh? That's fresh? Yeah? Really? So, Ryan,
which were you like? You like the orange of the
I like the white.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
I'm not an orange guy, so I don't even own
anything orange, I don't think, so I'm not an orange person.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
I like the white. You don't know any you don't anything.
You don't know any Tigers road gear stuff? No, wow, No,
that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
It's not close. It's the white one. But I'm I
will say this though, three times a year, the orange
one is better than the white one.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Three times a year, just three times a year.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
You put it onst like when you have warned two
three months, maybe a year. It's clean. That orange d
is clean. White one for sure is way better. Every
once in a while that orange with hits just right?

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Is that what you felt like this morning? They woke up.
You see that, you feel that, Yeah, there's an aura
in there.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I'm telling you the Tigers are gonna delay this game
till about five o eight, and I'm telling you the
Tigers are gonna win Tisna win sixty two.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
I feel it.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I felt I felt it all morning.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
As I feel the mojo bro, I feel just a
little bit more Detroit Love. You were talking about jay
Z and that influence with the hat. Another group Detroit
Love bro Slum Village. They used to wear them Village
growing up, baby.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
So much J Dillon, Yes, Plum Village is what it is,
some village. It was a Detroit I actually know one
of the actually I know all of them, but I
really know one of the guys from Slum Village.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
I grew from Detroit.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
They went big two thousand selfies would have been in
two thousand and three. Kan That was like when Kanye
came out, Oh two didn't get that the j Dialer
beat and Jay Deler passed away in No.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Six.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
But anyway, Yes, very interesting slum Village. If if Ted Nugent,
Bob Seeger, or maybe Alice Cooper did it, it would
be something that probably would have done.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Slum Village got popular. They did a they did a
Marvin Marvin Gay sample.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
If Marvin Gay had done it. See it was.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Marvin Gay sample. So when you hear, you're like, oh,
you'll at least be able to hear that.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
It's good music.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Okay, you may not like necessarily the edit to change,
but you're like the undertone, which is Marvin.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Which would be really difficult to duplicate. Go ahead, sing it. Ye,
that's two days in a row. We've heard that.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Must say. When people start singing, it's usually a good mood.
It's usually things are going well, or you're about to
eat some good food. You're eating good food or motos. Man,
I'm feeling the tigers motos.

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Speaker 6 (40:19):
We bet pistons.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
What somebody message pistons a winter last night? Did you
watch a kool aid?

Speaker 8 (40:25):
Hey hondy hand man that reverse layup? It got it
took social media by storms practical video.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
I don't, I don't. I don't understand why the video
of the picture is in here. As soon as I
saw that Highlands, I said, here comes Koola. Why he's
the greatest.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
Don't give him any ideas byln, don't give him any ideas.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
But it was worth it.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
I heard somebody it was clean, Yeah, it was, it
was cool, it was ath I like him a ton.
I heard somebody say he's the best piston of all time.
That was no hour ago.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
No, can't he get there? But you know in time,
But there's a guy named Isaiah Thoms.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Long time. There was a couple of guys before there's
there's a few guys. He's at the top of the
yous don't know about.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
But he's at the top of the mountain.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
He's the top of the mountain. But while you're climbing
that mountain, there's a number.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
First of all, you gotta get past Grand Hill, That's right.
You gotta get past Grand Hill where Grant Hill was
and we know this time was cut short here ankle injuries,
the whole nine yards. But what he accomplished in his
five years here, she was the best player in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Agreed. Not enough people remember that.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
When when Jordan left, when Jordan got back, when Jordan
got back, he wasn't the best player in the league.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
It was Grant Hill is really underrated. People didn't like
him because they didn't win. Because they didn't win. He
moved on for Ben Wallace and Chuckie Atkins, and Ben
Wallace won't helped him win a world championship. So everybody
almost forgets about Grant Hill was a star, a superstar.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Did you realize coming out of because this is the
age old conversation me, I was a little younger. I
didn't get it. I didn't know he was that good
coming out of Duke, Did you know?

Speaker 4 (42:07):
No, because I don't think that. Nope.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I thank you for being hod because that wasn't even
when he.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Was athletic and he could jump out of the gym.
I'll be honest with you, m yeh, yeah, no kidding.
I covered him for just about every single game he
played in Detroit. I was really fortunate got to know him.
The the the amount of work that he put in
is really underrated. I mean, he would come out, he

(42:33):
had a shooting coach chip and they would come out
and he would just stand just before the rim and
just shoot and make a certain amount and then he'd
take a step back. And he worked so hard at
as shooting, and he was already really graceful and already
super athletic. I'm so glad you said that, because when
I say it, people think I'm a slappy I will.

(42:53):
You know, Joe Dumars is obviously one of the greatest
pistons of all time. Kate's got to get past him.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
I would argue, and even knew Joe was. He's further
up that.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Last Yeah, Dave being Bob Lanier. You know, we're not
talking about Kevin Porter and John Mengel for crying out loud.
We're talking about legitimate stars and Hall of famers. I
love Kate Cunningham. I think he's awesome. I'll be honest
with you. I yeah, Chauncey to you. Not long enough
for me, but yeah, I get it. I was gonna

(43:23):
say Dennis Robbit, but he wasn't gifted offensively. Ben Wallace
not gifted offensively like Kate Cunningham. What I like most
about Kate Cunningham where everybody's getting caught up and it's
it's cool, the layup, and it's his leadership for me.
His his willingness to what he did last year with
Ron Holland to me told me everything I needed to know.

(43:43):
When Ron Hollend wanted to mix it up with somebody
and start yapping, and all sudden, Kate Cunningham literally grabbed him,
put his hands on people and moved him and said,
you know what, enough, okay enough? Yeah, yeah, so we're
gonna get into that. But he basically said enough leadership
For me, his growth is maturation. To me, that's what

(44:04):
is more impressive. He got about anything, he found it.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
The reason I agree with you, the reason why I
agree with kool Aid on being exciting for this is
we talk at nauseum about his leadership. We talk at
nauseum about the fact that he is a two way player.
He's on both ends of the court. We talk all
about that. We don't talk about the moments because he's
sneaky athletic, He's sneaky moments like this. He doesn't have

(44:28):
a ton of these, So when you see him, you
get excited because he's like there it is, yes, that Okay,
oh see he's got that too. He can do that too.
Like when I saw the highlight, I'm not gonna lie,
I was like, yes, yes, because that's the thing. Like
you see these explosive athletic players that have gotten to
the next level and they're the next ones up, and
your guy is like, hey, he's leader. You know, he's

(44:50):
a hell of a two way player. Yea, he really
can play. You can put the ball in the hole.
But when you see stuff like that, it's like, oh,
he can do that.

Speaker 8 (44:56):
Too, especially when you consider surgery, when you consider the
things he's been through, to see him coming out and
doing this type of stuff, you know what, let's rock And.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
I think I think he's shoring into his age. Like
he got drafted in nineteen. This is year four.

Speaker 7 (45:11):
He got drafted in twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
One, twenty one.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
He got drafted at ninete oh the age of nineteen.
So twenty one, yeah, five, there you go.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
So it's a contint.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
Twenty four, twenty three turned twenty four. He's still young.
This he's not even entering his prime yet, but that
prime athleticism is starting to take over men's prime athletically wise,
probably on like twenty five to about thirty in terms
of that, in terms of the professional space.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Dude's side of thirty. Yeah, that's a really good insight.
I would say for certain athletes a little longer than thirty.
Hockey players probably a little bit longer.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
But you're right, but there's different hockey players. I know
they're super athletic, but they're on skates. They're doing the
thing I'm talking about the athleticism of like I'm bringing
on your on two feet, so like basketball, jumping, football,
running round cornerbacks, pivoting, hip work, and bands of that.
Twenty five to.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Thirty, Yeah, yeah, that's that's really good insight. I would
thought it would have been a little bit younger than
twenty five and slightly more than thirty. But I love
that perspective. I think you can know.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Twenty four is to asia. Well, I made pro bo.
Twenty four. I made pro bo, so if I don't
tear my asia, yeah twenty four.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Okay, yeah, well I sorry. I love his His passing
abilities really underrated. Okay, so you're right, the athleticism, all
the things we've said about him dead on. But he
is a really gifted passer and I love that about him.
And he's not afraid to share the rock. He's an
unselfish superstar.

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Speaker 6 (46:48):
Today he asks, can the Pistons contend this year?

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yes? It shouldn't be canned, will they Yes? When the
Pistons contend, They're gonna contend for sure. Orlando's better, we know,
cooly and now we're talking about this the other day.
Orlando's better, no doubt. But Boston stuff for grabs. Yeah,
well Cleveland would probably disagree, you know. But yeah, I
think the division with Cleveland in it, no Milwaukee, you know.

(47:14):
Or I think Orlando's going to be a little bit better.
I think the Trit's a top New York obviously. I
think the Trent's a top four Eastern Conference team. How
good is Atlanta going to be? That's a good question.
Can Atlanta and Orlando make that final surge and can
Detroit stay healthy. I'm really excited for basketball season. I'm
the same with baseball.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
You talk about the AL being we you know what
I'm saying, that's the conversation this year to Al's that's
one of the weakest points that has been in the
last twenty five years or so. That's what the East
is in basketball, kind of venturing, venturing on that. The
New York Knitts, who's the team a beach?

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Last year?

Speaker 5 (47:44):
They got a coach they didn't want. You look at
the Celtics, the Celtics best players, he won't be playing
this year, Halliburton and in and out the Pacers and
what they do.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Guess what, No Halley and they lost Miles with the Helle.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
So you look at this like this is guy exactly,
this has to be the year for the Detroit Pistons
like this is for.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
I do I agree with one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Yeah, that's the expectation.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Because I say this all the time, it's going into expectation.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
But I'm with you on that.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
I agree with these expectations. When Cleveland drafts Brailand Edwards
third overall, what's the expectation? Damn he better be a
Pro Bowl. Yeah, I'm serious, you better be a starter.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
Quarterback.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Draft the quarterback, leave me alone, let me go somewhere
else we have quarterback, No, but just go.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
That's the expectation. So my expectation coming in Cleveland's they
stay healthy is Detroit is a top four Eastern Conference
not Division Eastern Conference team, and we'll challenge for an
Eastern Conference crown.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
I agree. And the team that you mentioned in Cleveland Cavaliers,
we know what they've done the last two years, especially
last year with their coach. They took tremendous drives. But
I will I will warn you. I always go back
to this name me. The last team to win an
NBA finals with small guards it was nineteen eighty nine.
Is the Detroit Pistons. Small guards don't win in the NBA,

(49:02):
and they damn sure don't win in this NBA.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
You wouldn't go to state small guards with Curry and Thompson.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
I mean Klay Thompson six seven and Klay Thompson six seven,
and he's one of the best defenders, both two way
guards at the time, so they're an anomaly. He's six
seven and Clay's the best, I mean, steps the best
year we have seen. So if you want to add them. Fine,
but you're talking about elite of the elite, so yes,
two and thirty five years.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yeah, there are exceptions to the rule. And now remember,
I mean Cleveland does have Lorenzo Ball this year. So
he's six six? Who Lonzo Ball? Six six?

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Right?

Speaker 6 (49:43):
Right?

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Is he about six to six? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (49:45):
Six seven.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
He's also been injured ever since he was at.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
U C l A.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
That's right.

Speaker 8 (49:52):
They're saying they got him right now, but I don't.
I don't trust it.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
Did he do an ankle Michael fraction?

Speaker 6 (49:59):
It was that and his knees? Oh, it's both Alonzo.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
I guarantee he did a microfraction of some sorts because
the MICROFRACTU is the one injury that they just cannot
figure out, like the micro fracture when guys do them.
When you hear micropraxts, especially in basketball.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
What do you consider a small team? This is a
fascinating conversation. So Donovan, how big is Donovan Mitchell?

Speaker 5 (50:20):
Small guard?

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Steph's a small guy, Chris Paul's a small guy. Darius
Garland's a small guard. He's like six. Mitchell is a
small guy, right, So he's sixty three, I think, right.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
He's an elite athlete and he plays like when he's
six seven, but he's sixty three and his teammate is
another bad court member six one.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Right, So that's why that's why you consider. You got
put it in perspective for people like us, because we're
all small, all right. So Donovan Mitchell next to me
at six three, two fifteen, he's a big man. Not
his big as Braley, but sixty three to two fifteen,
that's a big dude.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Right now. How does that now? How does that backcourt
look when they play the Celtics?

Speaker 8 (50:58):
Yeah, yeah, oh man. And then I get it because
in the playoffs, the nex things tighten up. They're able
to put certain defenders on Donovan Mitchell and it makes
it that much more difficult. The whistles, they're not getting
as many files as they were doing the regular season.

Speaker 6 (51:16):
And then when I think about what even the business could.

Speaker 8 (51:18):
Be and what Jayden brunts is, some of these more
physical guards, even if they're not you know, the taller ones, they're.

Speaker 6 (51:24):
Able to put their back to the basket.

Speaker 8 (51:25):
They're able to iole more effectively and go out there
and make the play when it matters most. And with Cleveland,
You've seen their guards fail at that over the last
couple of years when it mattered most.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
They had some injury too last year and the small aspect.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
I sticked true to that. Last year they had some injuries.
Everybody has injuries. I get it.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
But Evan Mobley was out for them. That's a huge.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
One for them.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
So you would say Jalen Brown for Boston, big guy.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
Six seven, six eight, Jason Taylor six nine, six ten, Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
He handles the ball. So I don't know if you
call my guard, but he does handle the ball. So
I hear what you Pritchard is off the bench, right,
he's only six.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
One, deck Derek Whi he's six seven.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Derek White six eight, Yeah, Yeah, oh was it?

Speaker 7 (52:12):
It's it's Drew Drew Holiday six four, Drew Holliday.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Yeah, so he'd be Derek Quite six four, Derek White
six four, and Jaylen Brown sixty six. That's it. But
that is a big, big backcourt. Joe Dumars is what
six three, six four, So we always go back to
our Oak six foot and seek was six to one
on a good day. So yeah, I hear what you're saying.
It's I think it's a fair point I do. I

(52:36):
mean I I never looked at it like that. I
look at it more like who's handling the basketball? When
Luka Doncic is considered a guard, he's considered the Lakers
point guard, right he's six seven and he's six seven,
six eight. Yeah, so that that causes some matchup problems.
You know, when we talk about baseball and matchups pitchers
against certain hitters. We got to think of that in

(52:58):
just about everything. And we need to think of corners
against wide receivers. Who the hell is gonna guard Calvin Johnson?
Who's gonna guard Brayln Edwards. You've got a mismatch You're
gonna take advantage of. Basketball is doing the same thing.
So why small guards? They better be special if they're
small guard.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
I'm glad you just said that. This was the perfect segway.
You talked about wide receivers DB's and you're talking about
where guys play matching up.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Where should Travis Hunter? Ooh?

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Where should he match up? Because I watched that game
last night, CHEP, and then I watched the keep to
Lead talk about like when I say keep to lead
should be somebody's head coach, like he's so down into
the sport and what it is. But what do you
think Travis Hunter should do? You see some couple of
defensive plays for him last night the game before. You
saw some huge wide receiver plays last night.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
What do you think I would play him on offense?
Where would you play them?

Speaker 5 (53:49):
I play him on defense?

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Okay, that's good, right, But.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
But hear me out before the season started, I was
playing a wide receiver. Play them some package stuff at dB.
That's my understanding. I thought, because of his ball skill,
his athletic ability, his speed, you just give them the
ball to make it happen. I was partially right. I
listened to Ki to lead. He said, you play him
a dB, he would be dB.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
He'd be top.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Fifteen dB in the league right now if you played
him out there, just because of his athletic ability. He said, Look,
he said, I'm telling you, I'll send it to you
as well. He says, you package him, you package him
on defense, You let him, you let him learn by fire.
He said, you put him in the slot. He's gonna
play on So.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
One of my choices I could play both. That could
have played both.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
No, oh, well yes you can. The way he said,
do it is you start him at dB. Starting at dB,
he can work in, he can work out, and then
with the wide receiver. He was like, look, you did
fifty to fifty balls packages in the red zone and
he only needs twelve plays on offense. That's all you're
gonna play. Mean, But I would now they're trying to
teach you wide receiver and then sprinkle in dB and

(54:50):
then eventually sprinkling both. No play that way dB. You
just get them ball in space. He's so gifted in space.
There's so many package you can do for put him
in space in the red zone. Fifty to fifty ball like,
I like that. Better play him at dB and then
twelve to fifteen perfect role.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
I play both too, But I think it's a passing lead.
I think it's a wide receiver friendly league. He's electric,
him and ETN in the same offense, Brian Thomas, all
that stuff, I think you become a much more elite offense,
especially helping a quarterback who has as many wartz as
Trevor Lawrence has.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
I think we need a break breakdown on that at
some point in time.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
I really do.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
I would love to see you breaking down his.

Speaker 8 (55:34):
Film from both sides of it because you guys are
both making some of the good points on offense. His speed, man,
it looks it looks sick.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
He's pretty electric.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
But you don't have to be in every play to
do that, man, Like legitimately you do not. There's a
lot of ways you can. Jamo doesn't he feel like
he's even in on every play?

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (55:51):
He does.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
I mean he does play, he does start. He's in
wide receiver too, But it's essentially like they used Jamo
two years ago.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Yeah, but you told me the other day, and props
to you for recognizing this. Jamison Williams's route running is
a big reason why I'm on Ross, Saint Brown and
Sam La Porter are getting open. So if that's the case,
and I believe you more than I believe you know
the average.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Joe Jamos, that's If that's the.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Case, why can't Travis Hunter make that type of impact
on the offense even though he may not be getting
the ball every single time?

Speaker 5 (56:28):
One James First of all is Jamo's a wide receiver
and always has been a wide receiver. Jamo is an
elite wide receiver, a coaleesive wide receiver. When he was
at Alabama, I didn't say it was his route running
is getting these guys open. It's the speed on these routes.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
It's the speed. Well, you said his routes. I didn't say.
I didn't mean to say route running. You said his routes.
His speed on those routes allow others to get open.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Because because Travis Hunter don't know how to play, why
don't yet like the players that Travis Hunters making? Look
at him? He ran a deep over, he jumped over everybody.
He made a hell of a catch. They threw him
the ball in space, he shook two people. He ran
up the sideline. They threw him another ball in the sideline.
He shook a person, and he got north and south
for about eight yards.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
And he's not running around. So you would use him
similar to the way maybe the Cowboys used Deon Sanders, Yes,
and Michigan used Charles Woods. Put him as a d back,
and then when you want to bring him into a
few offensive packages, play him that way.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Now you've changed my mind.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
He did. Especially when you bring up the jam thing.
It's like, you know what je I kind of get
what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Jet Swee.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
Some play actions off the Jets suite, getting him into
certain routes and then slowly but surely you open up
the game. But on offense, like he's a DV. You
got Jordan Lewis out there, who played phenomenal for the
Jaguars last night. I don't know why the Cowboys let him.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Go, don't.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
I don't either. He's a detroiter.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
I do because it's the Cowboys. Because of the Cowboys.
They don't get it. They make them. But I think
that defense is really good, which is why Casey struggled
last night. You put him out there on defense, Let
him get a balanced not make him the jack of
all trades. Masters done the same thing he did with
Jabrill Peppers. Stick his button in one position like mastered
is dB. We got you covered, we'll teach you, we'll

(58:09):
put you in the slot, work some things on here
won't match you up. We won't do that yet. You're
not ready for that. I make him a dB offense.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
He's not.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
He's played flag football his whole life. He's played seven
on seven his whole life. He's legit easy on the
wire receiver side.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
It's good stuff, man. It's a really good breakdown. By
the way, that's why I picked Jacksonville last night. Good
call Kansas City. When we come back, speaking of DB's
some news on a Lions young defensive back and what
could Brad Holmes and company do about it? Could they
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Some decent news out of Lions Camp. We spoke yesterday
a little bit about Terry On Arnold and the injury
that he's suffering through and how it's going to keep
him out in some speculated for an entire year. The
news out of Alan Park is that it's not going
to be quite that severe. So that's good in the meantime, though,
you and I both would agree.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
Because every time you put this picture up like it
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get him.

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To get away from.

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Is a negative thing to ry On Arnold, all right,
I won't make it. This is from two years ago,
last year. Yeah, because you can see he's wrong.

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One, he's face he's not facing the ball too, he's
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the ball hasn't even dropped down yet.

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This is not a positive look, right, It's not for
Terry Arnold. He has been better this.

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Year trust conversation though, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
But the Lions basically have three healthy corners, okay, Amik Robertson,
Rock Cassine and Avonte Maddox. Now on the practice, they
have Eric Hallett, Trey Flowers, Nick Whiteside. Many people feel,
including yours, truly, they need to bring another one end.
Do you believe in promoting from practice squad or would

(01:08:40):
you like to make either a trade or bringing somebody
who is not yet signing. Arguably you and I talked
earlier Stefan Gilmour out of football shape, football shape, not
in shape.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
Yeah, promoting from the practice squad, No, I mean I
don't believe that the practice squad guy would be the
way to go. You need dbs, You need guys that
are gonna help you. The Kansas City Chiefs team, they
can get the ball down the field. I mean, you
can see necessarily that great yesterday, but by the time
you play Xavier Worthies ankle probably will be much better.
Tae Kwan Thornton is a receiver that's making some noise

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getting to the chick Cansie Chiefs last year. Mark he's brown,
He's gonna drop a couple, but he still makes big
plays and he's still tough at the line of scrimmage.
So this is gonna be a wide receiver coord that
You're gonna have to have some horses in the stable.
And I just don't know if promoting from the practice squad.
These are guys that weren't even on the actual active roster.
These are guys that you're promoting. I know you always

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look at me. I'm the guy that says yep every time,
go out and get somebody, you know, and I typically do.
I think this situation is a little different. I think
because you do need somebody. DJ Reid is gonna be
out for six to eight weeks, so we believe Terry
and Arnold. They're telling us that it's not gonna be
as long.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
But what is not as long?

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
Is it eight weeks going down to four weeks? Is
it a six weeks going down?

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
In three weeks?

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
He will be out. Then even when they come back,
you still need some guys because this is a real
this is a reoccurring injuries, Terran Arnold, and you just
want to have some depth. Y'all seen when down and
meeks nursing some things. So I will go out and
get somebody. And how you go out and get somebody,
You gotta get some guys at a third fourth on
a roster. That the third dB, the fourth dB yo

(01:10:19):
maybe four or five. And you got to see what
that ticket looks like, you gotta see what can we
give you, what can we make shape? Who do you
may want? How can we work something? Because if you're
getting a guy like that, maybe Ray Lopez that you
bought in in the off season to give your D
line some depth. D line has been pretty good. D
Lion depth is dcent. You're getting some guys back in
the Leen McNeill, maybe that's the way you go, But

(01:10:41):
I wouldn't get a practice squad guy like you're talking
about going against some heavy hitters coming up and then oh,
by the way, you play the Bucks the week after that.
We know what Baker Mayfield can do is he is
hell to pay in terms of passing that ball down
the fields.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
But they did play Trey Flowers this past week and
they just signed him, right, So would you give him
a deeper look or would you truly explore trading for
I'll use a guy who I think they should look at,
Greg Newsom from Cleveland. I don't know what you'd have
to give up. I mean there's a lot of speculation.
Fifth round pick, sixth round pick. It's a sixth round pick.
I don't think it's that heart of a decision at all,

(01:11:15):
he's got one year left on his deal, plays to
run really well. Change his scenery is a phrase we
like to throw around in sports. Some people believe it's real.
I think you did. You need to get out of Cleveland.
You went to New York, you thrived, So could be
a situation. We brought up Stefan Gilmour, Emmanuel Moseley. They're
all free agents. Lugerious Sneid, Trey Hawkins, Hawkins with the Giants,

(01:11:38):
Snead with Tennessee. Those are all names that I think
at least we can keep an eye out for.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
Yeah too, and Newsom's under the deal though he's got
one year left on the he's so you trade for him,
you don't have to pay the name of excuse me,
Cleveland front the ticket for the rest of and then
you just let him go.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Yeah, that probably gets negotiated. I don't know how that
that actually works.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
I'm with that because at the end of the day,
if you let him go at the end of the year, fine,
and that's on you. You're still hoping for Terry Arnold.
You're hoping you gotta draft somebody. You hope you're going
to pay somebody off season. Maybe it's neosome, but that
situation doesn't seem like it hurts you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Yeah, hoping that a guy like that Straw actually gets
healthy could actually give you something his second round pick
for crying out loud, Yeah, because God almighty, that's you know,
when people talk about missus bring that one up nearly.
I didn't know why, because he doesn't dress.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
He doesn't dressed, He doesn't even give us a chance.
He just he just never has moved the needle, even
when they drafted him, and now you just never see
him to even be able to develop an opinion. Whenever
I hear his name, I think the same about Josh Pascal.
Stop mentioning his name now, like, please just stop bringing
his name up.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
And I know he had a brow.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
When you look at his past, were like, all right,
maybe there was somebody second rounder from Kentucky. No, it's not.
It's a lot of injuries, that's what's behind it, and
a lot of seeming.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
So I think the first week you and I worked together,
you said the one advice you'd give Brad Holmes, and
you think he's done a really good job, stop drafting
injured players.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
It was a thing for him and even free agency.
It wasn't even just the draft, like a lot of
the free agent guys are coming, Manuel Mosley, Marcus Davenport
and there's others. And then he's drafted guys that were injured.
I had a longer sheet of injuries that they had
to do through in the combine and then they get
hurt here. You know, it's like, damn. I remember Keith
mentioned they drafted the Titan out of Virginia Tech. He

(01:13:22):
had some issues. He comes here, he got hurt, Pascal
gets hurt. It's like that was a big thing for
me for Brad Holmes because it almost felt like, all right, well,
look where can we Where can we not take shortcuts?
That's that's an improper term, that's unprofessional. Where can we
get lucky? Where can we look at a guy that
had a lot of potential and maybe he could get

(01:13:43):
paid this, but had a couple of injuries, so now
he's worth this?

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Where can we take advantage of people passing out a.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
Guy who and then Hooker, Now he didn't get hurt,
right now he hasn't got hurt. Well, he didn't get
hurt as a lion. And that was another situation where
it was like hmm. This guy potentially could have won
a heis been put ten, could have been the first
round pick. So based off that, this is a good move.
I think he did He did that too much for.

Speaker 8 (01:14:06):
Me and Michael Werry sends it a two dollars super
chat as well. He wants to know I think Trey
Flowers could help. How about you?

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
Yeah, I mean she won't have anybody. Yes, he can help.
He definitely cant helping. They trust him and this is
somebody that they bought in and they played right away.
So yeah, let him see what he can do for
a week or so. But don't be married to anything. Yeah,
don't be married to anything. This is you guys got
a good handle in the season. I've been looking at
it like a lot of these networks. Shep who said

(01:14:37):
the Lions are dead in the water and dead Campibell
was done in the coordinators, this, that, and the third Now,
all of a sudden, guess who was the best team
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Yeah, some people are just very shocking.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
But with that being said, you are in a position
to where you are the best team in the NFL,
and you do have got a little bit of a
schedule coming up and you want to make sure you
get the depth and get it now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Yeah, there's no perfect team out there. It was, you know,
throw up in your mind time when you heard all
these so called experts and national pundits saying, you know,
I really think Dan Campbell's gonna have an issue in
Detroit and so on and so forth. And I'm sure
they've come out and said and retracted a little bit.
That's because the team forced him to. They're the best

(01:15:15):
team in the National Football League. And I think we've
talked and everybody has continued to talk about the offense,
and for good reason. They're number one. Indianapolis is number
two in scoring. The shiny new toy is Indianapolis, and
they've surprised everybody. I don't know if the Lions have
surprised people. I think their defense has, though, and you

(01:15:36):
can look at what happened in the fourth quarter and
some poor calls and some poor blown coverages here or there,
but overall, I think their defense has been pretty damn special.
And Aiden Hutchinson as much as he was as much
as he was criticized, and for good reason. Against Green Bay.
I think you said, and so did doctor Pierce. It's

(01:15:57):
going to take him a couple of weeks, all right.
You could talk about preseason games or he didn't play
in preseason games, preseason scrimmages. He is an absolute menace
right now, and you would argue that he's the best
defensive end in football right now with the number of
pressures that he's put, the number of sacks, and some

(01:16:18):
of the stuff that's been taken away from him too.
He is number one in quarterback pressures thirty one, he's
number two in sacks five, he's number five in win percentage,
and he's had three sacks, a safety, and a forced
fumble taken away. Now one of them was one of
it was his fault because he was but those are
all real stats, that dude right there. You could make

(01:16:40):
the argument, I know Miles Garrett is deserved it, that
he's the best at his position in the National Football League,
and if he's not, he's one of them top three,
and he's been a big reason why the defense is
so much better than I think anybody expected anybody.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
Yeah, he's damn good. He is legit. He is a
menace out there. Say for it, because what you do
in the off season when there's you know, when you're
not in pads.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
It's very different than what you do when you're in pads.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
And then it's very different going up against Pine su
who and your mind might be taking care of my boy.
I don't want my boy to be out here. Yeah,
let him get his confidence back. I'm gonna let him
get his feels back, et cetera, et cetera. It's a
different thing when you gotta go out there and you
got to go against guys that have no care for
you when they don't they don't care about your injury,
or they don't care about your process, or they don't
care about this. And they're also been rocking and rolling

(01:17:28):
for three hundred and sixty five. So it just takes
a little more to get a win. It didn't get
those in Green Bay. So now it's like go back
to the drawing board. You know, I'm rushing it too much,
I'm pressing a little too hard. Let me just take
my time and let me just get in it. Here's
a game. And now you get game two Chicago Bears,
you finally get it. Sack. Then you start to feel okay, okay,
I got to the quarterback all right? That move worked,

(01:17:49):
all right? I'm feeling good, you know what. Let me
let me open my portfolio a little bit. Let me
let me dive into some moves that I've been working on.
Oh oh, that worked too well. I was able to
beat the right tackle with this one. Ah Okay, now
I'm getting back.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
To Jake Browning's a statue. I think I'll gobble him up.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
You get the game for in this lag. Shoot, let
me get the flock on. Let me knock the butt on,
because that's how fast I got there. I don't even
have to tackle the guy. I got this so fast. Boo,
there's a forest fun.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
You're gonna run a fleet flicker? Not on my watch.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
Yeah, so it's starting to happen, starting to happen well
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
The defensive line, though, to your point, they have been
in catalyst on that side of the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
And I focus probably too much on a lot of
the names, just like everybody does. Uh Again. Credit to
Kelvin Shephard for finding a way to dial up the pressure.
I love what he's done. I give him so much credit.
But Al Kadid Muhammad, look what he's done. He's got
seventeen quarterback pressures four sacks put it in perspective, not

(01:18:47):
taking a shot at this guy, because I know a
lot of people like to uh Zadarius Smith has nine
and two. I'm just saying that's all.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
I will say this, though, I know what's coming. When
they played a Kanzas he's just coming Sunday night, and
when they beat the Kansas City Chiefs, oh, I already
know it's coming down the pipeline.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
And you guys go, well, you said you already called
in it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Did I started?

Speaker 5 (01:19:13):
But what's gonna happen on?

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
I'm mad?

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
I'm mad they I'm mad they won. I'm mad. I'm
mad that the Chiefs lost last night, and I'm mad
that the Chiefs are now under five hundred because what's
about to happen with it. What's about to happen is
it's gonna be the gold Post getting pushed back yet again.
Like they're gonna ignore the fact that they beat the
since they lost the Green Bay. They're gonna ignore the
fact that they beat the Bears fifty two to twenty one.
They're gonna ignore the fact that they win into Baltimore

(01:19:38):
and dismantled the Raves. Yes, they had a couple of injuries,
and yes, they had a bunch of I don't care.
They dismantled that team. They took their soul. You see,
Derek Henry had a whole crash out situation on the sideline.
And then the Browns bad team, horrible team. This game
was way over before the game even started. They beat
them by more than ten. And then they did the
same thing to the Cincinnati Bengals. I don't care about
those twenty one points in the fourth quarter. What's gonna

(01:20:00):
happened is they're gonna beat the Chiefs and they're gonna say, well,
this isn't the Kansas City Chiefs of old. Well, Travis
Kelce because I heard I heard the bs excuses last night. Well,
they've played two months more than any other team, because
you know, a kudos, and that's what happens when you
win championships. Don't give me that. That's what's coming down
the pipeline. When the Lions beat them next week, it's
gonna be more excuses, and then it's gonna be beat

(01:20:22):
the Chiefs. Then it's gonna they're gonna beat the Bucks,
and then it's gonna be well, you know, Elijah Canti
and then Mike Evans. You didn't make that excuse for
Baker last week with the Seattle Seahawks that they went
on the road to beat. And then it's gonna be
the Vikings. Well, Carson Wentz is the quarterback. The Commanders
not really the same team last year as last year.
Jade Daniels has a sophomore slump going on. And the Eagles, well,

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Eagles can't pass the ball down the field. The super Bowl, Chaps,
that's what's coming down the pipe one For the rest
of the Lions season, they're gonna continue to move that
goal post back.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Just be ready one hundred, Just be ready undred. They've
already done it with Baltimore. Mike, Mike complaint to people
who said about Baltimore, well, they're not very good. Yeah,
you know why they're not very good because Detroit put
the snoutof Look.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Okay, So at the end of the day, is just
so hard.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
You see these letters across my treest they formed Detroit.
It's so hard for them to just say Detroit is
like that in any sport, in anything in life. It's
so hard to just say Detroit is the best city, choice,
the best team Detroit is. It so hard for them
to say, they gotta give you an excuse.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Hey, they got to give you a little gold pulls. Well,
they won, but there's no Christians speaking of this. Did
you guys see you watch the Chiefs and Jags.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
I still don't like Travis Excuse me, I still don't
like Trevor Long.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
I don't either, but process it doesn't seem like it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
I wouldn't follow that. I would not follow that guy
to the kitchen. I just don't think he inspires you much.
But whatever, Okay, I'm try trying to take with it.
They did win. Did you watch when he scored the
game winning touchdown but he tripped failed, he fell well,
somebody stepped on him in fairness, but then he fell
down again, got up and ran it in Did you
see Chris Jones? Yeah, that he had two. He had

(01:22:04):
two or three plays like that. Chris Jones literally stood
there and watched. He literally was just walking around. It
was the reincarnation of Tony Cassius with Dallas playing the
Lions when Barry Sanders juked him out of his shorts,
where Tony Cassius is like, where the hell is that guy?
And he's gone right for a touchdown at the Silverdome.
That's what Chris. Chris Jones literally just watched him. Now

(01:22:26):
he's probably not gonna catch him. It's a bad look
for Chris Jones, one of the better defensive tackles in
the league.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
It's a bad look for Chris Jones. One. He is
absolutely a fault on all those plays because it was
three plays in that game where he just kind of,
you know, you let it go, et cetera. I'm gonna
just tell you in my estimations of what I think
that is. See, when you win, it covers up a lot.
And these jokers been winning for eight nine years and
all the you know, Travis, you you get fifty million,

(01:22:53):
you get fifty million, you get commercials, you get commercials.
We're gonna do all this stuff. You make the focal
point about the offensive players only paid offensive players, only
defensive player to get played with Chris Jones only defensive player.
They let all the other ones go from with this
session of nick Bot because they shouldn't have. Like, I
know that that's been festering for a while. I know
that all the other stuff off the field has been

(01:23:15):
festering for a while. I know Chris Jones. And this
has been coming for a minute. Remember the Philadelphia Eagles
game when Chris Jones was jaw Jackens and yes, Jalen Hurst.
This is the same guy I saw defend and protect
Daniel Jones when they were trying to interview him after
a game where they had beat up on the Giants.
And this is Daniel Jones. Like on his way out,

(01:23:36):
he was defending, he was doing everything he could to
be polite about Daniel Jones. Fast forward, he's up there
arguing with Jalen Hursts after the game is over, after
they lost, and you lost to him in the Super Bowl.
Different Chris Jones, different things, and you didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Even throw for one hundred yards. We won the game.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
This Chiefs team is tired of each other. I don't
care how you disguise it, how you mask it, how
you do the commercials or Mahomes cut his hair and
dealing the interview with Jason and Kelsey before the game,
and Travis and Andy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Reed are doing all these specials like the Kingdom, Where
do you want me to sit?

Speaker 5 (01:24:06):
What do you want to travel to sit? They don't
like each other. They're tired of each other right now.
They are tired of each other. Winning has pissed them off.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
That's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
Yeah, because money gets involved. Things get involved. Who's getting well,
who's not getting this, who's leaving? Who coach shows more
favor to, who he allows to do more things? Why
he didn't get in trouble when he was late to
the meeting?

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
I want an insurance commercial?

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
Why did I have to practice yesterday? But he hasn't
practiced in two weeks. Like things like that start happening.
But when you're not winning, shup. See when you're winning,
I see it, But what can I say?

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Overlook it?

Speaker 10 (01:24:39):
A J.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
Brown may may maybe learn that when you win, you know,
say anything.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
But when you lose Boiling Point, it was like you said,
it was a really bad look.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
He's been the best player at that position since Aaron
Donalds last year.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
Yeah, he's now Aaron Donald. There's not many Aaron Aaron
Donald arguably last supliman of all time.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
Chris Jones Aarons last year. Chris Jones had a better season.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
Yeah, I found it. I found it spectacular watching because
I have seen and heard from people so often about
I want him to try and we see it in baseball,
probably more than anything else. Why doesn't he run the
ball out, ground balled a second, throw it at first
and they got him by five steps? Right? Why not

(01:25:29):
they think it's automatic? Well, it sure seemed like Chris
Jones thought it was automatic that Trevor Lawrence was going
to score and there's nothing he could do about it.
But the Jags are an impressive win. They're four and one.
I think it's their best record since two thousand and seven.
I don't know if they're a threat in the AFC.
The NFC, to me, is clearly the better conference this year.

(01:25:50):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
And it's funny you say that you don't find him
a threat in AFC, because I would tell you this.
The AFC is so confusing right now that I think
their threat because I think everybody is a threat. I
think I think everybody in that AFC is a threat
to Chargers. Even though they lost their offensive lineman Joe Alton,
it's looked a lot two offensive line. There's still a threat.
Bow Knicks might figure it out. They're definitely a threat

(01:26:11):
to Kansas City Chiefs. Just never count their guy. Because
it is Patrick Mahms. We're talking all this stuff. I
still would never count him out. The Baltimore the Baltimore Ravens.
Look at that division, can't nobody's got to win.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
I'm not taking that. No, you told me last week
they're dead. I did.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
But look at their division. It's the Cleveland Browns, it's
the Cincinnati Bengals. So eventually Lamar Jackson will get healthy
and you'll have to figure out if he's right. If
I'm being honest.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
No, I know there's three and one. If the leaders
three and one, it's Pittsburgh and they're a minus two
in run scoring or run run differential or point differential.

Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
And that's what I'm saying. Once he's healthy, because I
think he's playing this coming week, do they rebound and
do they go on to run? And does Pittsburgh do
what they typically do is fall apart in the last
seven weeks of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Like it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
Mike tom is not going to finish under eight five hundred,
but he's not necessarily going to stay to the point where.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
He's eleven games.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
So it's going to be interesting in that regard. So
the AFC is, it's it's wide open. NFC is is
two teams.

Speaker 6 (01:27:14):
Yeah, I just wanted to say, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
I'm sorry. You think it's Detroit and Philly. Who in
the NFC you think it's detroiton Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
See, this is why we need that's why we need
Braylan's top five top five to us.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
We need it sooner soon.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
No, No, in the NFC, I'm going with that boy, Baker.
I'm going with Baker Mayfield. I'm going with them Detroy
and Tampa, Detroit, Tampa, and then the Rams and Eagles
can fight it out.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Okay, you're not a believer in Frisco, even though they
leave their division and just beat the Rams.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
No. No, I was very impressed with mac Jones said.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
He said that, he said that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
He was beat up in that game, like he was,
excuse me, last time I checked, there's twelve games left,
So no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Bet that's true. He looked like Pinocchio on a string, Like, Oh,
he's a real boy, not in this play.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Speaking of winning overcoming, Oh, how many times have we
seen the Eagles go each other's next over the last
four years?

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
Okay, but how many times you've seen him win? They
still win? This is very true. Maybe it's a little
different this year. You would know that better than last.
I still think they're a legitimate threat. I wouldn't say
they're as good as Tampa, nor would I say they're
as good as Detroit, because IVE said I think Detroit's
the best in football. Tampa's probably right there behind all
the Tampa's scoring differentials a minus, there's a plus three,
it's the it's a sliver. I would take Buffalo over Tampa.

(01:28:33):
Then I would have Tampa. I do believe Philadelphia belongs
in the conversation. They're still good.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
Yeah, one of the as plays in the Buffalo. They need
to get a number one where I receive it. I
know they have Kean Colem and he can make some plays. Yeah,
he's tremendous in making plays.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
We saw that the State. You saw at Florida State, but.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
They don't have a number one number one, which is
the same thing I say about Lamar Jackson. When you
got quarterbacks that do that, they tend not to get
the number one where I receive.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
But they need to make a trade. I don't know
if it's Chris Olave or somebody like that that they
could trade for, but they need to get somebody. Yeah,
it could be Garrett Wilson in New York.

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
Oh oh, here it is. I'm glad. I remember with
the Eagle Shop. Not everybody is as hungry once you
already won. Like keep an eye on that, Like see
that they fought to fight back last year. Year before that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:22):
They got the Super Bowl Shop people on that team
that got paid shot. So now all these concerns, all
these grapes, all just sitting on the on the bench
street reading the Bible and all this kind of stuff.
They got two major injuries and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
They were healthy.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
So now you're mentioning some injuries. Now, Nick year Yai,
like you legitimately were almost coaching the year twice, and
you want.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
A Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
You've been to two Super Bowls and you let the
media and the fans dictate how you're gonna call plays,
Like there's a lot going on in Philly. Shoot, what
was his name for BG? Brandon Graham? Last year he
had to have a couple of Jesus moment before they
were able to get on that run towards end of
the year.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
Guess who's not there this year.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
Guess who's also not there this year? You can see
him every night, you can see him on Monday Night football.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Well, Jason Kelsey wasn't their last year either though, but
you had BG.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
So now I'm saying you don't have either one of you, Okay,
Because even though Lane Johnson's been there forever and it's
a hell of a player, sometimes guys like him they
do their job, and their job is to go out
there and block.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
That's what he does. When you say about guess what
they won the Super Bowl, you know, there's a certain
sense of satisfaction, is what I'm reading into the verbage.
That's what made maybe Brady in New England so special.
Maybe it's what made Steph Curry and Golden State special,
and Jordan and Bull special, and Isaiah and Magic Johnson.

(01:30:40):
Guys like that aren't satisfied. That tells you something. The
Florida Panthers, they've been to three straight Stanley Cups, they've
won back to back, and Matthew could chuck once more.
I mean, there's something to be said for that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
Everybody that's name, and I'm not disrespecting the Eagles. I
don't know about this. I know about some of them,
but to names everybody you name, they won that championship,
they had that parade a week later. What were they doing?

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
They were probably in the gym a week later.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
We know Michael Jordan's since you mentioned the Bulls, we
know he started living the day after they lost a
couple of times. I don't know if that's this Eagles team.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
I think this Eagles team might still be celebrated. Wow,
what a celebration doing it at.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
The raining, because you know raining defending that that works
for three hundred and sixty five and folks.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
That's that's why sometimes we can't always read into records,
you know. I mean when when you say, oh, they're
four and one's it's how you get there sometimes. And
I know you could use Tampa as an example too,
because they just said it's a three point difference between
what they've scored and what they've surrendered. But there's a

(01:31:52):
belief there. You can tell watching the Tampa Bay Bucks.
They look around, it could be thirty eight seconds remaining,
they're down four. All they're gonna to do is look
at number six. I don't know if you saw the
video from him when he was at halftime, or maybe
it was just before the game against Seattle, where he's like,
you guys are gonna be look prettyf and stupid at
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(01:32:12):
nothing but a blank blank blank. I mean he and
his teenager around him looking at him like go, Baker,
go And what does he do? He goes and balls out.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
And some some some fighters don't start until they get
punched in the mouth. Some fighters don't start today get
behind on the cars. Baker is one of those fighters.
He don't get started until they get down or to
the game gets closed, or until he makes that for
his play, or until he scrambles and get his head
and knocked off. And then he's like, yeah, now you
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Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
I told you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
That that little dangerous.

Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
He is dangerous. It makes it because he talks that
stuff too. There's no doubt about that. When we come
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You know that looks so good. I tried to take
a plastic knife and fork, just hoping it was real.
You know, it's kind of like the matrix. It's one
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the star of that neo. I was hoping that was
real and I could just move right off the big screen.
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Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
I got a great story about the matrix when we
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Speaker 5 (01:39:25):
So here's here's the matrix story. So this would have
been January. It's January whatever dat it was. So I'm
watching the playoffs, watching one pops. You know playoffs they
come on Saturday and Sunday. Now I'm watching the AFC playoffs.
Down'm watching a particular game by you know, I don't

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want to give the team where I'm sitting the scene.
I'm watching two AFC teams. I don't necessarily care about
the AFC, but it's on, so I'm gonna watch it.
We're getting ready to go to the movies. This is
a CP and I it's my stuff. Fine, now we're
about to go see a movie, but we'll.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
Watch this game.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
Games is kind of interesting team scores. You think the
game was over. He was, all right, we'll watch this
kickoff return and then we'll go to the movies. So
we watched the kickoff return and it just so happens
to be Frank Whichek throwing the ball back to Kevin Dyson,
which was the Music City of Music City Miracle. Watched this,
we go crazy. My dad played for the Oilers, which

(01:40:19):
became you guessed, the Tennessee Titans, so I have a
deep love for them. So I'm going crazy and run
around the house watching the game. Can't believe we're watching
the highlights and this is Instant Replay is new, so
this was like maybe season one, two or three of
Instant Replay. They had to check to see if everything.
So we're watching like intensely.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Make sure completely forget.

Speaker 5 (01:40:37):
To this day, I think it was a fore pass,
but I don't care. It worked in my favorite but
we're watching this it works in our favorite Tennessee wins.
End up going to Super Bowl and losing to the Rams.
We go to the movies, movies already started and my
dad's like, well, uh, Matrics, Matricks, you want to go
see a Matric. I was like, the Matrix, ain't know.

(01:41:00):
It's about the time. I ain't know. Brothers, it's their
first movie. Go see the movie movie and to being
my favorite movie at that time that I had ever seen.
I would I would go back from recency bias after
a while, but it was just so Matrix always gets
tied into the.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
Music City Miracle because.

Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
We weren't going to I don't even know what movie
we were going to see. To this day, I don't
know what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
How many Matrix movies are there? Four?

Speaker 14 (01:41:23):
Four?

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
Have you seen them all?

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
I seen them all?

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
One was like one was one was the only good. One,
two was like good if you liked the series because
it had some dope stuff, and the three was horrible
and four was like really, like why bring it back?

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Why would you you agree? Why would you go see
four if you thought if you thought three was horrible because.

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
You already you're already doubt in. It's just like why
would you watch why would you watch season eighty Game
of Thrones? Because I've been watching forever and I got
to see what this horrible night fight it was gonna once? You?

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Yeah, so I watched that. But how long can you
take a series? How long can you guys take like
do you binge watch it all?

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
How good is this serious? Because Billions was Billions sucked
in the last two but like I gave you succession,
Succession is four seasons. Each season got better. Okay, Like
I watched seasons. I like Succession Billions Succession for the
first three seasons and then it did some weird stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:42:17):
Three.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
I feel like it's this three seasons.

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
Three seasons is a sweet spot, okay, Like very rarely
do you get which I think is overrated, but let
me not piss people off. Barely did you get a
breaking bad there's going.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
Eight seasons like that?

Speaker 5 (01:42:30):
Rarely do you get a Sopranos elon And even.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
It being Away with This Yellowstone was a really good
one for me.

Speaker 5 (01:42:38):
They got rid of Kevin and the year five, it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Got to be like okay, and then they delayed it,
and I said, I can be done. I don't have
to see it through. I think you're right. Three seasons
is good for me. There's only so much I can handle.
If it starts getting monotonous and Yellowstone did. I got
to the point where, like, I can leave it. I
have no problem. I can tell within the first half
a season if I if I'm gonna like it, I

(01:43:01):
have no problem leaving. It's serious.

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
It's the same as we were just talking about with A. Z.
Brown and the Philadelphia Eagles. Like once you get the
season two, once you get the seasons, you get past two,
you get the three, you get the four. Now it's
more money. Now this actor is getting paid more than
this actress.

Speaker 6 (01:43:14):
Now you got that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:15):
Now there's other stuff involved. And now it's not like
things get involved the longer year together.

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
Unless it's True Detective. True Detective had different people, different storylines.
I watched the first three I liked, the last one
was awful.

Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
Joy Season one was great with Woody and Matthew one
of the best best shows I've ever seen. Season two
was weird with Vince vaugh Yes and Taylor Kitsch and
that was a little it was.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Watchable, a little weird. Season three was good. Season three
was good.

Speaker 5 (01:43:46):
That was my herschel Ali I didn't and Stephen Dore
I didn't watch season four with Jody Foster. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
Okay, it's how many seasons?

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
Four?

Speaker 6 (01:43:56):
I was gonna about three.

Speaker 7 (01:43:58):
Four.

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
I've watched something that was going over five to six.

Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
But like the longest, what's the longest you've you've taken
a series?

Speaker 8 (01:44:05):
Uh? I did watch the Friends series, which is what
ten ten seasons the series Friends.

Speaker 6 (01:44:14):
I did watch like all the c W Friends.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
Oh, that's a comedy. I'm talking. I'm sorry, my apologies.
I meant like a docu series or a series like that.
I'm talking about Seinfeld and Friends and Frasier and I'm
talking about docuseries. Yeah, I'm talking about any long TV series.
I suppose that it's not a comedy, you know, and
all that kind of stuff like you yeah, like more

(01:44:41):
drama you brought up? Uh something thrownes.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
Right? Watch?

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
I have not watched it. Yeah, Blacklist, Blacklist, I heard
that was very good. Yeah, so mine would be Sopranos.
I think that was ten seasons metal that was the
longest from me? What about you? Ry?

Speaker 7 (01:44:59):
I would say how many seasons are in the Ozarks?
Like five or six? For four? Yeah, I stopped at
three because there's the same thing over and over again,
just they get themselves out of a pickle every single time.

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
Season one of Ozarks was penomen No. Season one was
it was phenomenal, really good show because how it came about.
It's just a storyline that you weren't expecting. And then
there's a place and where you're going. You're like, man,
the Ozarks was Missouri about this pole dunk town.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
I should watch it?

Speaker 5 (01:45:29):
And it was for a small town. It has so
much going on, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:45:34):
Say anything I should.

Speaker 5 (01:45:36):
So you'd recommend that Jason Bateman and uh Laura Lenny
they're they're they're electric with movies.

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
The first episode. Well, I'll do that based on your recommendation.
Don't tell my wife because she's the one who told
me watch.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
Know what you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
Movies?

Speaker 6 (01:45:50):
Are you?

Speaker 8 (01:45:51):
Are you tapped out with the Matrix because Matrix five
has been confirmed?

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
Are you kidding me? He just three and four?

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
So I got fast and furious Yeah, there's so many.
Like number four was so bad they bought back and
forth doing and it was also launched during COVID.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
He it was bad, bad, all right, because I've never
seen it. Now I know it's on Uh you'll see
it on a lot of different opportunities and on different channels.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
Last thing I said about that, You you know what
hurts the matrix is that he now has the franchise
john Wick.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
So he's similar that he used to be.

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
He used to be neo, Like he's not neo anymore
john Wick. So now when he's doing the Neo movies,
he's got the down Wick haircut.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
And he's bad.

Speaker 5 (01:46:39):
So I'm not even looking. It was old stiff dude.

Speaker 4 (01:46:41):
Which one, and Neil was He was slow, but he
was fluid. So it's Neo, not Neil for Neil rule
I got. But the reason I bring that up is
because in Netflix U n C had a Netflix documentary
North Carolina, North Carolina, Bill Bill Belichick has decided, we
ain't doing this anymore. How much how much they really

(01:47:06):
are their roster is a mess, but he's a mess.
How much do you think he has hurt his legacy?
And he has had a legacy. I mean, people may
not like him because of the hoodie and a lot
of other stuff. The dude won games. I know he
didn't win without Tom Brady. He won games, He won championships.
He's one of the greatest coaches in football history. Whether

(01:47:26):
you believe it or not, it's true. How much is
he tarnishing his image though? With his good looking, hot
girlfriend on the sidelines, which is stupid, ridiculous, inflammatory, canceling
this Netflix and then doing stupid things like you know what,
No New England Patriots. I don't want anybody tweeting about
New England, and I don't want any scouts here in
New England, which makes no sense.

Speaker 5 (01:47:48):
If you start from when Tom left till now. A
lot of damage has been done to the esteem and
the prestige of Bill Belichick's legacy. Whether it was the
greatest coach of all time, whether it was what he
created in New England, whether it was just his mind,
his cerebral his decision making, how he held himself, how

(01:48:09):
he held the others around him to that's all taking
a hit. You look it on the field. He couldn't
figure it out as a head coach. When Tom left
head coach last GM. That GM side is what messed
him up as well, but he couldn't figure it out
as a head coach. He leaves that situation. Now he's
coming back. But then it was weird because then he

(01:48:29):
goes into commentating. Then he's lighter. Then people like him more.
Now you're looking like, oh you know what man? All right,
well Bill's not telling you that baby and NC Robert
Kraft how they took shots and how they set the
whole New England documentary up on Prime. They didn't do
Bill any favors and it was some bs and yeah,
players come out speak on his behalf. So now it's
kind of like, all right, well Bill's still intact. And

(01:48:51):
now you see him date this nineteen year old girl
that he's running out of the house on the ring alarm.
I didn't know what that was. I thought it was Ai.
He found out it's real. That's his girlfriend. And now
she's doing documentaries. Now she's also it's published. Now she
owns a sex shop. But they're together, and now she's
dating him, and now he's gonna be the head coach
and you win' see she's you just look at it
and it's and now because of it, I gotta go

(01:49:14):
back and now everything that happens because you forgot about
Bill Belichick cheating. But now because all of this now
you got to add that, well, and he cheated, So
it's taking a hit to this to the extent. You
can't call him the best coach of all time anymore,
is what I would say. The biggest thing is like
the other stuff, Bill doesn't care, so neither do I.

(01:49:34):
You cannot with a straight face call him the best
coach of all time anymore. You want to say one
of Definitely, you can't say he's the best.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
Coach Bollo no longer you win.

Speaker 5 (01:49:45):
See, like what they are right now, this is they Like,
this is how bad it is. It's not and YOUU
and se He's not a team like Georgia or Alabama
or Ohio State or whoever you call the Pantheon team.
It's you and see it's a basketball school. What they
are doing this year has been the worst in the
team's inception in eighteen hundred. Like, that's how bad it

(01:50:07):
is right now for Bill Belichick. Not just bad in
the last ten years, twenty years, thirty years, this is
one hundred plus years bad for the UNC.

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
They have regrets too.

Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
So I to that point of North Carolina rolling over
his grave right now, North Carolina being bad, which means
there's not many pros in the NFL, but they're one
notable pro. Drake May happens to be a Patriot and
for North Carolina, like I always see Michigan's Instagram always
highlighting their pros, how they're doing in the NFL, and

(01:50:39):
if you're North Carolina, you can't even highlight your notable
pro because he's on the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:50:43):
That's a good point. That's a great point.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
Ryan, So like, what is UNC supposed to do? Despite
your face, it's a joke. Let me get to this
real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:50:52):
You someone that tobacco money and kick making kick rocks.

Speaker 4 (01:50:55):
I suppose so losing to UCF the way they did
and Clemson back to back games hasn't helped either. Before
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good too. I like Lavonte David as well, but Fred
Warner is the real deal. He was on ESPN for

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the Monday night football game last night on the Manning
and Manning broadcast. I don't really watch that all that often,
but they bring on some guests once in a while.
They brought on Fred Warner and it was a fourth
down situation. If you missed it, this is what he
had to say. Listen carefully. I mean, I mean, Fred,
you gotta feel like these days, but it's fourth down.
I mean, you're just assuming teams are going far until

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you see that kicker coming out right.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Dan Campbell in the Lions was the worst thing to
happen for Folknombs kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Those guys go for it every play.

Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
So it's like, now teams are like, man, that's actually
not a bad idea.

Speaker 5 (01:51:52):
How about we go for it? So, yeah, you do
expect them to go for it all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:51:59):
Going going forward on fourth down blaming Dan Campbell tongue
in cheek. Probably a little truth there from a defensive standpoint,
but immediately brings up Dan Campbell because of not just
his willingness and risk to go for it, but because
of how successful and how he has really influenced I
would say more than just the NFL. I think he's

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influenced college and I think he's influenced high school teams too.

Speaker 5 (01:52:22):
Yeah, Fred Warner is lucky that Dan Campbell didn't decide
to go for it before that half is over. But
just you know, looking at you, absolutely right watching that
game yesterday, Kensey Chief has Patrick Mahomes. They have one
of the greatest tight ends ever in Travis Kelcey. You
finally got some receivers back and from speed, and you
got one of the greatest minds ever. As it relates
to the offensive side of the ball and Andy Reid,
they struggle on fourth down, fourth and one, fourth and inches,

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fourth and two.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
They don't even try to go for it.

Speaker 5 (01:52:45):
A lot of times you would think, oh, everybody's going forward,
everybody can do it. No, they can't.

Speaker 4 (01:52:49):
Very strange.

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
Goes back to what I say, like when the Lions
go for one and fourth down, it is just a
part of their package. It's just another play in the fourth.

Speaker 6 (01:52:56):
It's gotta be easy because you know, Dan Campbell does
it exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
Watch it. It's gonna happen. You can't stop it. And
it's typically happening, whether they're passing the ball, whether it's
a type formation, running the ball is what is everybody else?
It's like, man, I hope we get this first down.
Like that's just how it feels. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
Yeah, I thought that was really good stuff from Fred Warren.
Case people didn't watch it on that Manning and Manning broadcast.
Before we get to the mail bag and some super chats,
let's hear this from Wicked Pickle and Caesars.

Speaker 8 (01:53:23):
Yeah, definitely, definitely gonna stay right here with you guys,
and then we're gonna kick it right back to the
desk after these couple of messages before Wickied Pickle, I
gotta tell you, guys, make sure you stay tapped in
at the end of this show. Obviously hope that the
Tigers get going, but we will have a watch party
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and after that, hey, let's walk. So make sure you

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guys stay tapped in. So ongoing coverage here at wiber Sports.
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Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Okay, let's get to some super chats. Let's get to
some chats that have caught your eye and the mail
bag here on the Brilliant Edward Show.

Speaker 8 (01:55:13):
Oh yeah, I definitely want to make sure I come
in the chat him again for absolutely smashing that like
button today and being active in the chat. Randall's Small's
with the five dollars super chat from earlier. Not sure
if you would remember This Week in Baseball had how
to Bend your New cap segment.

Speaker 6 (01:55:29):
I loved how to Bunt with Rod Crew.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
Loved Rod Carew. I mean he was I just felt
like he never struck out. I loved This Week in
Baseball with Mel Allen arguably the greatest voice in baseball history.
Ernie Harwell's there, Vince Scully's there, Scarry Carey's probably there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
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Speaker 5 (01:55:55):
Like I'm telling you, like during during during COVID, I
had a couple things like in terms of watching that
I would go back to just over and over again,
like I think we all did. Everybody had an influence
and you go to everybody and YouTube video like watching
Will Ferrell and SNL Harry Carey like I was. I
watched that probably for two weeks in a row. Just
I can imitate the whole.

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
Yeah, it was funny. Harry Callus would be another one,
but yeah, Melon Allen was phenomenal thing. Did you know
the moon was made of cheese? That sounds good.

Speaker 8 (01:56:25):
Next, Randall also said to another five dollars super chat.

Speaker 6 (01:56:28):
That's for Bright and Randall.

Speaker 8 (01:56:30):
It shouldn't you should be surprised, you guys, he's number
one right now.

Speaker 6 (01:56:34):
It's that that got out.

Speaker 5 (01:56:35):
I appreciate Randal a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:56:36):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
At the end of the day, he moves to needle
on the show a lot. There's a lot of guys
that moved the needle, whether it's Mike Waring, whether it's
middle school, middle uh, middle age sneaker chip, Yeah, tongue
tied right now, trying to speak so fast a lot
of people and appreciate all of you. Randal gets it
going in the beginning, he gets it going at the end.
Two man, appreciate you as well.

Speaker 8 (01:56:53):
He asked you a question, He says, are you surprised
that wide receivers that don't make teams don't change to
the back.

Speaker 5 (01:57:01):
Nine because there's a lot of word that goes in dB.
It's easier to go from dB to wide receiver then
go from wide receiver to dB. Like having that footwork,
trying to develop that elite footwork and being able to
shadow a dB excuse me, shadow wide receiver going backwards,
trying to learn that at twenty two to twenty three,
twenty four, that's tough. Like we're sitting here talking about
where should Travis Hunter play and you're talking about a
guy that could be elite at both, that has worked

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at both for you know, a short time, but he
still worked at both trying to figure out the dB space. Man, Like,
how are your hips? How are your knees? What does
that look like? Because I wouldn't have been able to
go to dB, you know, in year two or three
in the league. No, thank you, I took it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:39):
I think it's hard for DB's to go to wide
receiver because they don't have his hands. DB's are oftentimes
they don't have very good hands. They really don't. I
mean most defensive, but there's exceptions. You're not playing wide
receiver if you can't catch the damn ball. And I
think there's a lot of cornerbacks who are now corners
because they weren't good enough to catch the football as

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a wide receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
You can buy a jug machine. I can't go I
can't buy hips. Yeah, I can't buy hips, and I
mean technically you can, but I can't buy hips and knees,
and that ability to be able to do that can
just go about bad.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
You can buy a judge machine that don't me You're
gonna always catch him. But I hear what you're saying.
Remember Jerry Race used to catch bricks. This is a
brick layer man, soft soft hands. His dad was a bricklayer.
That's what he That's how we instead catching footballs. He's
catching bricks, soft hands. Go ahead, if you.

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
Run four, two, forty three, they will pick you up
on the team and they will deal with those couple
of drives because that one catch is just going seventy five.

Speaker 4 (01:58:39):
We'll give it a shot.

Speaker 8 (01:58:40):
We do have one more super chair here from the
vet of one of our vets here in the Chat family,
Michael Wherry. He has he's number two uh chat member today,
he says, how bad will the Lions beat KC. He
believes it's gonna be by twenty plus.

Speaker 5 (01:58:55):
I would, I would. I will watch it out on it.
I mean, they're they're in a bad situation, but I'll
watch out on that because it's still a Super Bowl
champ MA and you know, Chris Jones and Andy Reid are
going to figure that out at least for this game
coming up, Like maybe not the rest of the season,
but at least for this game coming up. Because this
game isn't about the Keys Kansas City Chief. This is
an individual one. This is about the Detroit Lions. It's
about last time you play them. This is about playing

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the best team in the NFL. Just for the competitive sakes.
It's going to be a competitive game. And now with
your secondary being like it is, I'm sorry. They got
some gun. They got some guys over here can make
some plays. Talk about drop passes, Hollywood, Brown's gonna drop
some passes, but he's going to make plays to Taekwon Thornton.
You see that speed down the field, that size, put
that together. An Xavier Worthy trying to figure it out.

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I don't know what the ankle injury looks like and
then it is Patrick Mahomes. Isaiah Checko catches the ball
out of the backfield.

Speaker 4 (01:59:44):
Don't forget Smith Schuster throws the legal blocks. That really helps.
He can pick with them. Yeah, so that really helps.
And then when you're thinking about throwing a flag, it's
always good to have the most popular players that they
come up to here and say, hey, you shouldn't throw
a fag flag right there, because that is not a
penalty in the reference says you know what, Patrick, You're right,
it's not a penalty. That was blatant. That was ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (02:00:06):
They manipulated that rule, and he does that all the time.
They manipulated the rule in the sense of in a
one yard In a one yard situation like that, if
you get a pick that is organic, and that's the problem.
Organic natural who knows who can tell. But if you
get an organic, natural pick where the receiver runs an
actual route and does something you just happen to get

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a pick, it's legal within the one yard. The problem
is Antonio Brown. Excuse me, Hollywood Brown. It is his cousin,
by the way, So I wasn't far off. He just
ran the route like he ran right into him as
a block. It was an intentional pick, and you can
see that it was an intentional pick even though it
was only a yard and a half, so technically they
could have called it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
Also, I made Travis Council. I thought it was Smith Schuster,
but you said it was Hollywood Brown.

Speaker 5 (02:00:51):
If she was on the other foot, if it was
a jazz, we wouldn't have an issue about.

Speaker 4 (02:00:55):
Sure, absolutely I would. No, they wouldn't they.

Speaker 5 (02:00:58):
Have an issue because the Chiefs do it all the
time and it works in.

Speaker 4 (02:01:00):
Their favorite They get away with it quite a bit.

Speaker 5 (02:01:02):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:01:03):
Yeah. By the way, here's the Tigers lineup, and then
we're out of here and the heavyweights are coming in.
Carpenter leads off, plays right field, Torres bats second, play second.
Cole Keith is your designated hitter from the left side.
Then Riley Green batting fourth and left field, Spencer Torcosen
playing first base and betting fifth, Zach McKinstry at third base,
betting sixth, then Dylan Dingler betting seventh and doing the catching.

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Parker Meadows in center field betting seventh. Ho youer bias
the shortstop or eighth, Rather have your bias playing shortstop
and they are playing behind Jack Flaherty. It's in a
rain delay twelve k but hopefully it'll start up soon
and Balen will be down there start waving his towel.

Speaker 5 (02:01:44):
Take a look because he's not starting soon.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
Howz is not do We'll be back to talk about
it tomorrow here on the Breiln Edwards Show. Thanks for watching, everybody, Everyone.

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