March 16, 2025 • 59 mins
There is a belief that people should not go from ministry to ministry, or "church hop". What is the original meaning of the word church? Does the bible support or condemn going from one church to another?
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All right, all right, all right, hello high and how
do everybody? This is your man JK. Moore and welcoming
you back breaking tradition. So tonight we will be talking
about the subject that has been the subject of debate
amongst believers for if not since the entire inception of
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the believing church, Christianity, whatever level you want to put
on it, definitely I would say a good sizable amount
of the past decades, and that subject is church hopping. Okay,
but what is church hopping? Is it right? Is it wrong?
And more importantly, as always, what does the Bible say
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about it? So not going to be labor at the time.
So you all already go ahead and hop in, strap in,
lean back, and let's go ahead and take this ride
together as we begin breaking this tradition of church hopping.
All right, So we will be starting with our friend
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Googly or profit Google as it's known in some circles.
And so you'll see up here or for those of
you are listening, I typed in the search box, what
is the original meaning of the word church? Because usually
when you say church these days, the first thing that
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comes to people's minds is some building, whether it be
the traditional building associated with or some space that people
rent out of a larger building it anyway, again, some
building where believers gather together on designated days and or
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nights to come together to worship God. Okay. So what
is the original meaning of the word church? So it
says right here, the original meaning of church derived from
the Greek word and I'm going to go out on
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a limb here and says that says ecclesia, because it
looks very much like the title of one of the
books of the Bible, Ecclesiastes. So ecclesia translates to called
doubt or assembly and refers to the people of God,
not just a building. Okay. So right here from the
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tippy top, we already see that the original meaning of
the word or as it translated into church from the
original Greek word of clysia, does not mean building. Matter
of fact, I'm gonna go ahead, and the end of
that says not just a building. Yeah, the original word
had nothing to do with the building, okay. And it
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makes sense that this word that we know as church
would be translated from the Greek because it wasn't until
after Jesus the Christ ascended back up into the Third Heaven,
and the apostles began to go into other parts, venturing
out of Africa and what we know is the Middle
East and began spreading the word of Jesus, or more specifically,
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salvation through Jesus through parts of what we know as
Asia Minor and the Middle East and the lower parts
of Europe. So if you go straight up from what
we know as the Middle East Asia Minor, first couple
of places you are going to bump into are Greece
and Rome, and then you got Turkey and the other
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as we know the Middle Eastern countries around it. So
it makes sense that this word would have translated from
Greek because Greece was one of the first places where
a building dedicated to the gathering of these believers was erected. Now,
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you'll have some people who make the claim that the
church building replaced the temple or the synagogue. Absolutely wrong.
It did not, and for no other reason. Had at
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the same time these new buildings were being erected for
people who believed in and wanted to learn more about
Jesus the Christ were going up, you still had temples
in full swing. Okay, they win full operation and Furthermore,
why would non Jewish people be attending temples or why
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would they erect what you know, as we know from
the Old Testament and the New Testament, why would they
be erecting temples? Okay, now, yeah, there is some similarity
in the fact that the temples were erected as a
place for the Jewish believers to gather together to learn
about God, more often than not from the teachings of
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just Moses, which makes sense Christ hadn't come on the
scene yet, even though a lot of the teachings and
the writings of the original prophets very very specifically point
to Christ the Messiah. But anyway, I don't want to
veer too far, of course, so yeah, no, the church
did not replace the temples. They were built in conjunction
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to the temples for these non Jewish people, or as
a term the Bible uses from Gentiles would gather together
to begin learning and accepting and operating under the Holy
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Spirit when they received it of God through their acceptance
of Jesus the Christ. So original meaning called out or
assembly of people and refers to the people of God,
not just a building. So whenever you see this word
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church anywhere in the New Testament. Again, it is not
talking about one of those buildings with that demonic symbol
sitting on top of it that we know as the
Cross with the stained glass windows. Okay, all that is
just art and architecture that were added on from from
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different cultures over the years. No, it is talking about people, us,
the living, breathing church. Okay, that is what it is
talking about. Whenever you see one of the New Testament apostles,
use the word church. If you see Jesus use the
word church as he's downloading something to one of these apostles,
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this is what he is talking about. The people called out,
called out from what called out from the world, called
out why because they have accepted and believe in Jesus
as their salvation for eternal life. And assembly assembly of
people getting together people would like like mindedness, this new
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like minded common interest any much no different than you
getting together with your coworkers at whatever building where your
job is located, excuse me, or getting together well, the
students at a school or any other example. Okay, the
people that you're in in the grocery store, Okay, yeah,
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you're all going there because you need the items that
it takes to survive same thing, assemblies, assemblies of people.
So the first question that you have to ask yourself
when it comes to that word or that term church hopping,
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if church originally meant called out people or an assembly
of people who've accepted Jesus, okay, church, how can you
hop from being a believer in Christ to being a
believer in Christ right away? It is not making sense whatsoever.
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But that's not what people are talking about when they
use that term whole. No, no, no no. They're talking
about leaving one of these buildings dedicated to a particular
ministry that was established by a human Yeah, talking about
leaving that church going to a different ministry established by
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somebody else, to a different meeting building. That's what they
mean when they say church hopping. But if we take
this word eclsia as its original meaning, yeah, the idea
of church hopping is absolutely ridiculous and it makes no sense.
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Here's let me give you guys an example the way
I'll explain it to people. When I've talked about this
different thing in different well assemblies or gatherings I've been in,
think about school, regular public school, Okay, And I asked
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them do or did you keep the same teacher and
stay in the same classroom from your when you first
step foot into your pre k all the way up
until you graduated twelfth grade? Did you keep the same teacher?
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Did you stay in the same classroom? And people, you know,
I give them a minute and think about it, although
it doesn't even take that long. They're like no, And
I said, okay, why not? They're like, well, because you know,
as you get promoted to different grades, you go to
different classrooms. Then once you get promoted from a certain
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set of grades like elementary school, okay, then you start
attending middle school, and middle school to high school, so
forth and so on. I said, okay, even within that,
did you have the you know, your your English teacher.
Did you keep the same English teacher? Well? No, as
I went to the different grades, got different English teachers.
I said, okay, again, why why the change? So the
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answer ultimately boils down to no, you don't stay in
the same place for all of your learning from pre
K to twelfth grade. And the reason for that is
different teachers specialize in different subjects. Now, yeah, you have
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a few here and there. You know English teacher who
are who knows a bit of history, history teacher who
also knows a bit of math, math teacher who also
knows a bit of biology, biology teacher, you also know
so forth and so on. But generally, no, whatever the
subject is, that's what that that's the one subject that
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that teacher teaches. And then once you've grasped that and
been promoted to the next grade, then you'll have your
next English teacher that can then add a little more
and build off of what the last teacher taught you.
That's why you don't stay in the same classroom. That's
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why you don't keep the same teacher from the menu
you walk into your pre K class up until the
moment you graduate, different teachers have to be able to
teach you different things. You have to learn different things
in order to satisfy the requirements for promotion or graduation.
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The same exact principle when it comes to this Kingdom
of God walk certain people. Yes, you might start off
at one particular let's say ministry, and get everything you
can get there, but eventually it might just be that
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you've gotten everything from that place that God had for
you to get, and then he'll tell you, okay, time
to move on to the next place, because this next
round of teaching I have for you if okay, they're
not equipped to give it to you here. No, nor
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do I have it here for you. I got it
in some place outside of these walls. Time for you
to go, and therein is where the problem starts. Because
a lot, thank god, not all, and y'all, I don't
speak in absolutely okay, but there are a lot of
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these people who run these ministries who try to put
it in your mind because they have it in their
minds that you are supposed to stay there and serve
that ministry. I mean, let's just be honest and literally
until the time you die. Yeah, they believe, and like
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I said, try to tell you that you're you know,
this is where you're supposed to be. Even if it's
the place where you initially got saved, the place where
you initially redeemed yourself back to God by accepting Jesus.
In that place, well, you know, fantastic, awesome, of course,
but that does not mean that that is where you
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are supposed to stay. That just happened to be the
place to where you finally realize, man, I have to
accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior just happened to
be at that place at that time on that day.
That does not make you beholden to that particular ministry,
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because the point has to come to, who are you
gonna listen to and follow these people up here in
these ministries trying to tell you that you heard wrong,
You didn't hear that from God, that you're supposed to
leave that that's just the devil trying to you know,
it's always these people are like Bobby Bouchet's mom. Okay,
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everything is the devil if it don't come from them. Okay,
You're you're gonna listen to them? Or are you gonna
listen to the voice of God with hope or through
hopefully the Holy Spirit that you claim to have in
you and he tells you to yil time to ride on,
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And that's not something that anybody can answer for you.
That's a personal decision. I would hope that you would
choose wisely and listen to the voice of God, because
when it comes down to it, only God knows what
he has for you and where he has it for you. Okay,
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So right off the tippy top here we see that
church did not originally mean and you know, I know
the meaning of words change over time, but quite frankly,
be honest, I don't care how people have grafted it on,
you know, to these these building places. Okay, church called
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out people, assembly, people of God, just like it says.
All right, then we got a little bit more here
the Greek origins. Here's a more detailed explanation. The word
church in the New Testament is the translation of the
Greek word e clysia, which means called out or assembly.
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And remember y'all had assembly you you can assemble yourselves
anywhere anywhere. Think about it this way. Think think of
when they have these these what they call church functions
at a lake or a restaurant or you know, you
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guys go to some some amusement park or something. Well,
you're you're not in a building, then are you. But
you're still believers and you're still assembled together, aren't you?
So you're still you're still the ecclesia. Okay, I mean
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you know this is checkers, it ain't chess. Biblical context
in the New Testament, inclchia refers to the people of God,
the community of believers who have been called out of
the world into a relationship with Christ, exactly exactly what
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I said a few minutes ago. So again I have
to ask the question, if you're one of these believers,
how can you hop being a believer with a relationship
to Christ talking about hopping to another group of being
a believer with a relationship with Christ the last time
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I checked? I mean, yeah, the community part of it
might change, but the foundation and the bare bones of
why you're doing it hasn't changed. And that's these last
well four words, a relationship with Christ. There's only one Christ.
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So what doesn't matter with whom or where you build
and work on this relationship with the one Christ. Whether
I do it sitting inside the building with your name
on it that you came up with, or whether I
do it with a bunch of people down in the park,
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sitting sitting on some park benches, a bund a nice
shade tree, doesn't make any difference. We're called out, we're
assembled together, and we're worshiping, studying and learning to build
this relationship with Christ, the one same Christ. So I
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don't have to stay one place to do this right. Furthermore,
Jesus Matthew twenty eight, Remember way back when what I
call one of our foundation scriptures. Jesus told them, now
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I'm sending you all out into the world. Go into
the world, teaching everything you have been commanded, teaching everything
you've seen. Right, this is Jesus talking. Did Jesus ever
post up in one building? No, I mean yeah, I
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said daily he taught at the temple, But at that okay,
even then, the teaching didn't start or stopped there. These
people were Jewish, so of course they went to the temple,
and first and foremost, the hope, the intent was to
come to his people first because he was their promised
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messiah first, and then after you got rejected from them,
like okay, well I'll make way to spread this to
the rest of the world and we will accept. So, yeah,
he went to the temple. But also we have plenty
of examples teaching by lakes sides, teaching in the courts,
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on ships, traveling from town to town, to town to town,
and not always to another building. A lot of times
these teachings and these parables that he did, Okay, they
were in open fields, open spaces that could accommodate a
large group and large gathering of people, as was usually
the case. So saying all that to say, Jesus himself
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never established that you have to go to one building
or one place and stay there, because that's not what
he did. That's not what they did. And by they,
I mean the original Apostles. They didn't do it while
he was still here with them, and they didn't do
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it after he ascended back into the Third Heaven and
gave us the rest of us the ability to have
the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. They never stayed in
one place. And when you see the word church again
in the New Testament, it's talking about those groups. Wherever
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they went, they ordained elders. They set apostolic foundation and
structure based off the apostles, the prophets, and the teachers,
and the elders to carry it out amongst that group
of people. Because much like Jesus, they were bound in
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human form. They couldn't be every place at once, and
they couldn't just again, they couldn't just stop and post
up in one place, okay, twenty thirty forty years, because
they had the commission to go and teach this to
all the world, all right, Dad, to keep it moving.
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And we are no different from them, because we have
to keep it moving so again notional church hopping. Nah,
that that's some some human man made mess, not scriptural,
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not of Jesus, not of the apostles. Okay, and you
see notne to here evolution of meaning. While the English
word church can now refer to both the building and
the community of believers, see again. Even with that, even
when talking about the evolution of the meaning of the
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word to now include the building, it still ends with
the original meaning of Eclitia emphasizes the people of God
as an assembly or community again, which does not, does not,
does not have to and oftentimes will not take place
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in one building all the time, and for you to
stay there. Okay. So, now that we've laid down the
foundation the origin of the word church, let's go up
here still with our boy prophet you gi. And this
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time I typed in in the search box being a
little more specific with the question what does the Bible
say about church hopping? And here's the answer. The Bible
doesn't explicitly address church hopping, but it emphasizes the importance
of regular church attendants, fellowship and unity within a local
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church community. Okay. No, the way people have interpreted some
of these scriptures may make them think that it emphasizes
the importance of church attendants. But again, if church is
the community of church is us the believers, how do
we tend or attend within ourselves? All? It don't make
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no sense, y'all. Excuse me, let me give us a
wad okay, none whatsoever. Unity within the local church community. Well, God,
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dogg and God say we're supposed to have unity within
our community period, whether it's church based or not. Okay.
And to be dog on arms with y'all. That something
Some of the people I've enjoyed and enjoy actually being
around with. But my dog on anti social self are
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people straight up don't don't go to church and don't
claim to be Christians. Way more tolerable a lot of time,
way more okay. So it goes on to say, here's
a more detailed breakdown. No direct prohibition or no direct
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prohibiting church hopping, so called church hopping. The Bible will
doesn't contain a specific verse condemning or forbidding attending different churches,
and it would not contain it because as far as
the Bible is concerned, again, that was not the original
meaning nor intent of the word church or ecclesia. So
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of course it wouldn't so saying that to say, Okay,
if the Bible does not come out specifically and prohibit
it or speak against it, then why do you have
so many people standing up in these dog gone buildings,
these buildings of religion assembly or religious assembly telling people
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that they are wrong for church hopping or that they
shouldn't be church hopping. Well, I'm gonna answer is simplicity itself.
The same reason they do a lot of this other
idiotic man made stuff that's not directly instructed to us,
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and a lot of times is directly told us not
to participate in that man made add on fleshly Christian
religious worldly m That's why they do it. Now, if
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y'all want to get down to the really real and
get down to brass taxes, as they say, the reason
why so many of them have a problem with it
is because you may be an incredible asset within that
religious organization. They know this, and just like any good job,
they don't want to lose you because you're a helpful asset.
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Or it could be that are when that plate goes
around you, you uh, you know, you drop a nice
stack in there. Okay, you're constantly dropping nice stacks every week,
and they don't want to lose that money or goodness forbid,
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you're a combination of both. Not only are you an
incredible asset to their organization, you drop them fat stacks
as well. And let's just say you might be blessed
to encourage others to drop them fat stacks when they
otherwise might not have. Of course, they don't want to
lose you comes down to money and what you can
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do for their organization. Well, the problem with that is
we weren't called to be organizations, okay, and we also
weren't called to fund these organizations and make sure they're
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you know, bank accounts and stocks and everything else. Stay up, No,
that ain't what we were called for. Well, you know,
I'm sorry. I shouldn't be speaking for everybody. That ain't
what I was called for. And I do so do
thank God the day that he laid that and reveal
that to me through his Holy Spirit, Thank you, Heaven
and following. And it was time to cut it off,
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so they going here. Emphasis on church attendance. Scriptures like
Hebrew ten twenty five encourage believers to not forsake the
assembling of ourselves. Together and to encourage one another. Well,
I've already touched on that we can assemble ourselves together
anywhere and at any time, And all that really means
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is to not forget to or not throw to the
wayside being able to assemble ourselves together, you know, to degree,
I'll excuse me, which I agree with to a degree. Again, y'all,
my natural personality is that I'm an anti social person.
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So even when it comes two matters of kingdom work
and kingdom business, it has to be kingdom work and
kingdom business to get me to go and do it,
because if not, I'm not going, plain and symbol and
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with the authority and direction that we did get from
God the Father and his son Jesus to Christ, I
don't have to go. It is a beautiful, beautiful feeling, Okay,
when you've been pulled out from the brainwashing and when
you've been detoxed from all this traditional mess, it is
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a wonderful, wonderful feeling at the end. Now, of course,
I'll be honest. Does it feels so good at the beginning,
especially when that's what you're used to? Okay, that doesn't
feel good at all? You know, you feel like you're
letting certain people down. But at the end of the day,
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at the end of the day, it goes right back
to that same question. All right, Am I gonna be
more concerned with letting these people down in this organization,
in this building which honestly should not even be existing,
Or am I gonna put my focus on listening to
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the voice of God and moving and operating the way
He has for me to move and operate, because that's
what the true, true blessing is coming from, and my
obedience to God and to God only. So each one
of us has to make that decision, has to have
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that encounter. And then again, as with everything else, with
these matters of the kingdom, Okay, it comes down to
us and us alone. God ain't gonna force us. Sad
to say, a lot of a lot of people let
other humans force them. But God ain't gonna force us.
He ain't gonna force it at all. If that was
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the case, he could have forced us to never sin
again and in all types of or force people to
definitely accept His son as their Lord and savior. Ye,
he ain't did none of that, and he ain't going
to so again. All right. If God doesn't force us.
Then why do a lot of people sit back and
let other humans force them into making these decisions or
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not making these decisions? Mm hmmm, no, never, never, never.
So yeah that this encouraging believers not forsaken ourselves. Well yeah, true,
but again, that doesn't mean it has to be in
a building somewhere, and it doesn't mean it has to
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be every every Sunday. The importance of community. The Bible
emphasizes the importance of being part of a local church
community where believers can support, encourage, and minister one another. Yeah,
well it doesn't that already go back to being part
of this assembly that's assembling to build our relationship with God. Okay,
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it's the same thing. But I noticed something very interesting
here under this one being part of a local church community. Okay,
it doesn't list one single scripture to back it up
or support it, not one at all. Serving and giving,
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it says, the Bible encourages believers to actively serve and
minister to others within their local church. Okay, yep, rather
than simply seeking what they can get from different churches.
And again, there isn't one single scripture referenced under this
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and that's not by accident. It's because they're trying to
force or push man made doctrine and belief into their
because again that there are no different churches, one assembly
one because we're believe in one. We believe in one Christ, one,
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not the whole different from community things. Well, yeah, that's true,
But guess what doesn't matter if it's two communities or
two thousand. Again, if we're coming for the right intentions
and under the right belief, we're still coming to build
the relationship with the One Christ. And even so when
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it comes to these buildings, that goes back to the
example of being in school. If God instructs you to
go to a different building because there's something there that
He has for you to get, or there's something there
that He actually has for you to do, you get
so worried and wrapped up in concern with this whole
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idiotic notion of church hopping, and you don't go to
that next place that God instructs you to. Well, guess
what what he had for you now you're not going
to get And even more important, what he had for
you to do is now not going to get done.
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And that can cause all types of a domino effect
and windfall, and yes, what ladies and gentlemen, you're gonna
have to answer for that when you stand before God.
We would have to answer for that when we stand
before God, for being disobedient because we were so concerned
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with what the leader of my church or my family church,
so concerned with what the family would say if I
leave from here that the assignment God had for us
and now left undone or the blessing. You've been sitting
there praying and talking brain and talking brain and talking
about God. This blessing and breakthrough you need. Okay, you
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need it, and you really really want it. It's across town.
You gotta go over there and get it. Oh no, no, no,
I can't do that because man, but this is this
is the church of my great grandparents and my grandparents
and my mama, and this the Okay, Well, now you
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just prolonged receiving whatever it is you've been praying and
bugging God for the past six months, and they're gonna
have the nerve to get mad at him like it's
his fault. Lord, I don't on the step. I've been
praying and fasting and paying my tithes and this that
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and this with Okay, well he told you where to
go to get it. You were the one so concerned
about what your family and what the leader here was
gonna say if you left. Don't don't put that on guy.
It's all you. And that's something that humans because remember, y'all,
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the clock is winding down, okay, the little the little
grains of sand in the hourglass, Okay, they're they're they're
trickling down to a few that there is not a
whole whole lot of time left. And as I've always
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said in the past, people had better get out of
this temporal way of thinking. Temporal temp temporary, short term,
not long lasting. Our existence here in this flesh on
on this plane of reality that we call life, it's temporal, okay,
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because outside of a few people actually mentioned in the Bible,
nobody lives forever. Nobody lives forever. And the whole point,
once we redeem ourselves back to God through Jesus, is
to then go about finding out and then executing the
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assignments that God has for us, because, believe it or not,
every human that has that is and that will walk
this planet, he has something for them to do, or
some things for them to do. And once we truly
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give ourselves to God, then that's what the thoughts of
our life is supposed to be about. Doing His will,
his way, not ours, not ours, and that can have
the most important and profound effect on where we end
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up spending our eternal which is what we definitely need
to focus on. Eternal is just say eternal. It is
never ending. Ever, we are eternal based beings that are
just living, that are just living through a temporal okay,
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short term existence on this plane in this reality. But
this ain't it for us, those of us who choose
believe that this ain't it. So if Jesus had to
go about doing the work, if the Apostles had to
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go about doing the work, going here, there and every
which awaken, town to town, country to country wherever they
ended up at, then what the heck makes us think
that we're supposed to is go accept Jesus and then
park our behind on the same pew until the time
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that we pass away. However many years that maybe and
think that our service is only supposed to be to
that organization and what they feel we're supposed to be
doing for them. What what makes us think that, y'all
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where Jesus and the apostles did work where they had
to get out and move go to different places. Again, y'all, Okay,
this is checkers that it is not chess. Okay, what's
this say right here? Considerations why the Bible doesn't explicitly
forbid attending multiple churches. It's important to consider the potential
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impact on unity involved and spiritual growth within a local
church community. Well you know what, Yeah, I agree with
the last part of this spiritual growth is the name
of the gaming. Mm hmm, the impact on unity. Why
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would people leaving from one group go into another group
impact the unity because ultimately, you're supposed to We're only
supposed to be concerned with what the Father wants, not
not making other humans happy and you know, worried about
their feelings. It ain't a feelings game. So yeah, you're right,
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spiritual growth. And if that spiritual growth takes you to
ten different dog on ministries in Milne, well then old well,
old well, that's what God has for you to do.
If whoever don't like it, too freaking bad, think keep
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this question matter of fact, it should be the question
on the foremost of all of our minds. Am I
gonna be concerned about humans and what they want, or
am I gonna be concerned about doing what God wants?
Very rarely the two interests do actually aligned, and then
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a lot of times they don't align. What God has
for us to do doesn't line up with what humans
want us to do or how they feel about a
situation or something. See this consideration that that's what this
is trying to lean people into. To worry about how
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the people in your church or in that ministry would
feel about you attending a different church or even multiple churches. Again, y'all,
if that's what God is commanding, do it, do it.
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Because as Jesus so eloquently put it, do not fear
those that can only kill the body, because that's all
they can do. Now, thanks for your You know, a
lot of ministries people ain't go that far. Now. At
the most, there will be a character assassination. Oh yeah,
they're gonna talk cold cast junk about you, all right.
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They ain't gonna actually take you up out of here,
like I said. Mostly, But then Jesus came back and said,
fear the one who can kill the body and send
the soul to hell. And again that ain't no human
that ain't no human that ever was, is or will
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be that has the ability to send us to help. So, yeah,
you're trying to tell you better be concerned with the
things of the Father because ultimately that's what you're gonna
have the answer to, you know. What's to say here
on the examples in the early Church, believers gathered in
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homes or public places, and there is no indication that
towns or cities had multiple groups of believers meeting in
separate locations. Okay, that made sense because you're talking about
in the early Church. It wasn't multitudes and multitudes of them. Okay. Yeah,
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Today if you look at us to tickets, I forget
how many millions of people are claimed to be Christians. Okay, yeah,
that down with. We're a couple of millennial removed from
the early Church. So of course there wouldn't be multiple
groups in separate locations because there weren't multiple believers to
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meet in separate locations. But what the Bible does very
clearly tells us is in those different towns and cities
there were different groups. Why would somebody in Greece go
all the way to dog one Rome, okay to be
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a believer there when there's already a group around them
there that's already been established. So in other words, of course,
and then also remember Jesus wor a worshiping Jesus and
accepted him. That that was new to the game. So
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just like today, you had a lot of people who
weren't ready to outwardly show their acceptance and devotion to him.
So again you still wouldn't have had large groups or
multitudes of people. So I'm really not sure you know
what I'm saying why this example is okay, trying and
trying to flex like this, because it doesn't make sense
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in the context of what we're talking about. But even then, okay, yeah,
that was the early church were talking here in the
twenty twenty five. So multiple places have been established in
separate locations. And if God's will is for us to
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visit a handful, participate, and do whatever it is in
those handful of locations, well then that's just what it is,
all right. So I think we will stop from man,
I need not realize, almost been hour already, Okay, so
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we're gonna stop right here. I mean, I already knew
there was gonna be a part two to this and
might actually end up being a part three because of
what we were going what I got up here. Yeah, yeah,
this is gonna go on the membership and again what
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the original meaning of the word members is in the body.
So yeah, yeah, I'll stop right there for the night,
and Lord willing, we will pick this up with part two.
So there it is. Guys. Already we've established that church
and its original meaning did not mean building and meant
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assemblies or groups of people. And we've already established that
the Bible says absolutely nothing about the condemnation of church hopping, which,
like I said, it wouldn't because in the context of
the word church in the Bible, it wasn't talking about
the building. And again that how can I hop over
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to me somewhere that it doesn't make sense, which, of
course is man made, which means it was fueled. Not
gonna say it was made. He didn't make him do it,
but it was definitely fueled by Satan and unclean spirits,
because remember, the whole name of their game is, especially
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with believers, to get in there and cause confusion and division.
So we don't play that game here. Okay, we played
Satan games long enough, we ain't doing it no more. Okay.
But the most important thing is do you have you
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known Jesus as your own personal Lord and savior. The
same people who would get on you and talk to
you about church hopping would be the same people that
will make you think, okay, if you want to accept Jesus,
have him as the Lord and savior, or you have
to attend one of these ministries or one of these buildings. No,
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you don't, No, you do not, okay. If you have
the faith, and faith means you have to believe it
for yourself. No, nobody can change your mind. Nobody can
sway you. You believe yourself deep down that Jesus is
in fact the living son of God the Father, and
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more importantly, that he shed his blood, and his shed
blood can wash you clean and redeem you back to
God the Father. And you're thinking yourself, Okay, I believe this,
but what's the next step? You know, the next step is, Jesus,
I believe you're real, and I believe you're the living
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son of God the Father, and I believe that you
actually died for my sins and shared your blood. So
use that blood to wash me clean spiritually and redeem
me back to the Father, because I believe you're the
only way that this is going to happen. You're the
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only way that I'm ever going to get to be
with you and the Father for eternity. That's literally how
you do it for those people. Heyen, Unfortunately, you have
some people who because of a medical condition, okay, they
can't speak, something going on in their mouth. So you
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think that God would just say, oh, well, since you
can't speak and verbalize this, well you're just lost. Okay.
If they have a healthy enough mind, you can think it.
Think the exact same thing, because as the scripture showed
us when it comes to Jesus and God the Father,
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they examined the heart, and our thoughts come from our heart,
not this muscle here in our chest. Okay, better word
for it would be our soul. That's where our thoughts
come from. So you can think the exact same thing. Hey, Jesus,
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I'm thinking, you're the son of the living God. You
shed your blood for my sins. I believe you say. Okay,
think it. If you have to write it down, do
whatever it takes. But you do not have to do
it within a building. You don't have to do it
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within a group of other people who believe and accepted Jesus.
You do it where whenever you feel that pool, whenever
you know beyond the shadow of a doubt, you do
it right then and there. I don't care if you're
sitting on the toilet about to shoot the deuce. I mean,
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it just is what it is. Let's be real. Whenever
and however you feel it, that's when you make that declaration.
I know I'm a sinner. I know I am heading
for eternal damnation. I don't want that because I also
know Jesus You're the only way that can save me.
Just let them know. Speak it, think it, write it down. Ever,
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you got to get it out there, but get it
out there, and then once you do it, like okay, Father, I'll,
you know, confess to your son. Now I'm a sinner.
I believe that His blood wash me clean, redeem me
back to you. Now. I need you to send your
Holy Spirit to endwell within me, to greatly activate the
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gifts that you put in me, so I can now
go about and do whatever it is that you want
me to do. Lord, for your kingdom and your glory,
not mine, not religions, not churches, the modern church. No
yours God, and please please send kingdom minded people in
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my path that will help me get started and help
me along the way. So yep, y'all, hurry up, come
on now, send that holy spirit of Yours dwell within me.
And once you've done that, hey, you know what I'm saying,
do a little woohoo. Find somebody, give them a high five. Celebrate,
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because that's exactly what they're doing for you in heaven
when you get, well, I shouldn't they get when you
accept Jesus as your Lord and savior. They are celebrating
because they know that it's one more soul that has
been snatched, okay, out of the hand of Satan and
they will not be spending eternity with him in the
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lake of fire and eternal torment. Now on the flip
side of that, oh, Satan definitely gonna be mad. And
if he never bothered you or came after you before,
you better believe he's coming with the full court press.
Now that's all right, You gotta definger. You got an advocate,
you got guardian angels, you have a whole Kingdom of
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God all right standing behind you, beside you, in front
of you, so don't shirk, don't get scared, and definitely
do not ignore the instruction of God when it comes
to this kingdom walk, because again, there is no such
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thing as church hopping. So you go wherever God instructs
you to go and do whatever God instructs you to do,
wherever it may be, however many places it may be.
All right, all right, well, y'all is always this old
country boy does. Thank y'all for joining me. Listen to
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me joeing about it, and God willing we will be
back next week to do it all again, to continue on.
And this study of church hopping is not real, Okay,
So guys, y'all be safe, y'all be blessed. Treat yourselves well,
but seek to treat other people better, even if you
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have to do it from afar. Remember all humans try
to treat people the exact same way you would like
to be treated. Oh and before I check off here again,
I want to thank my co host who joined me
last week for the one hundred episode Liars. So again,
thank you Apostles Calvin and Camilla Mays. Thank you Apostle
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Doctor Maurice T. Bell, Thank you Prophet this Coretta Roberts.
Thank you for the people who are coming in the
comment and join us, rose as See appreciate you, and
of course always the regular commenter slash conversator on these videos,
Son Dormant. No, no, you couldn't make it. But I
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was definitely sad about that. But hey, you know, God willing,
you'll make it for the next one. But thank you
all for your continued support, and thank all of you
out there for your continued support. I made the announcement
there there's a man. There's several new projects that are
gonna be starting up within the next several months, and
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I'll make sure to announce those as they as they
come about or about to come about, about to come about. No,
I'll make sure to announce those winning Thomas right there
we go. I mean, I'm know, I'm a country, but
you know, sometimes you gotta got to try to pretty
it up a little bit, so, you know. But seriously,
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thank y'all, Thank y'all so much, And here's to the
next one hundred episodes and even beyond and everything else
that God is tasking me to do. So yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna be hopping. We are definitely gonna be hopping.
With whichever direction he tells me to hop to, I
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will hop to it because I know that is where
my blessings lie, that my obedience to Him, not the
concerns and the feelings of other humans. Okay, okay, so yep,
let me stop it right there, so God, take care,
love y'all, and I will see you when we see you. Peace,
All right, all right, all right, hello high and how
do everybody? This is your man JK. Moore and welcoming
you back breaking tradition. So tonight we will be talking
about the subject that has been the subject of debate
amongst believers for if not since the entire inception of
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the believing church, Christianity, whatever level you want to put
on it, definitely I would say a good sizable amount
of the past decades, and that subject is church hopping. Okay,
but what is church hopping? Is it right? Is it wrong?
And more importantly, as always, what does the Bible say
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about it? So not going to be labor at the time.
So you all already go ahead and hop in, strap in,
lean back, and let's go ahead and take this ride
together as we begin breaking this tradition of church hopping.
All right, So we will be starting with our friend
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Googly or profit Google as it's known in some circles.
And so you'll see up here or for those of
you are listening, I typed in the search box, what
is the original meaning of the word church? Because usually
when you say church these days, the first thing that
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comes to people's minds is some building, whether it be
the traditional building associated with or some space that people
rent out of a larger building it anyway, again, some
building where believers gather together on designated days and or
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nights to come together to worship God. Okay. So what
is the original meaning of the word church? So it
says right here, the original meaning of church derived from
the Greek word and I'm going to go out on
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a limb here and says that says ecclesia, because it
looks very much like the title of one of the
books of the Bible, Ecclesiastes. So ecclesia translates to called
doubt or assembly and refers to the people of God,
not just a building. Okay. So right here from the
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tippy top, we already see that the original meaning of
the word or as it translated into church from the
original Greek word of clysia, does not mean building. Matter
of fact, I'm gonna go ahead, and the end of
that says not just a building. Yeah, the original word
had nothing to do with the building, okay. And it
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makes sense that this word that we know as church
would be translated from the Greek because it wasn't until
after Jesus the Christ ascended back up into the Third Heaven,
and the apostles began to go into other parts, venturing
out of Africa and what we know is the Middle
East and began spreading the word of Jesus, or more specifically,
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salvation through Jesus through parts of what we know as
Asia Minor and the Middle East and the lower parts
of Europe. So if you go straight up from what
we know as the Middle East Asia Minor, first couple
of places you are going to bump into are Greece
and Rome, and then you got Turkey and the other
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as we know the Middle Eastern countries around it. So
it makes sense that this word would have translated from
Greek because Greece was one of the first places where
a building dedicated to the gathering of these believers was erected. Now,
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you'll have some people who make the claim that the
church building replaced the temple or the synagogue. Absolutely wrong.
It did not, and for no other reason. Had at
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the same time these new buildings were being erected for
people who believed in and wanted to learn more about
Jesus the Christ were going up, you still had temples
in full swing. Okay, they win full operation and Furthermore,
why would non Jewish people be attending temples or why
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would they erect what you know, as we know from
the Old Testament and the New Testament, why would they
be erecting temples? Okay, now, yeah, there is some similarity
in the fact that the temples were erected as a
place for the Jewish believers to gather together to learn
about God, more often than not from the teachings of
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just Moses, which makes sense Christ hadn't come on the
scene yet, even though a lot of the teachings and
the writings of the original prophets very very specifically point
to Christ the Messiah. But anyway, I don't want to
veer too far, of course, so yeah, no, the church
did not replace the temples. They were built in conjunction
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to the temples for these non Jewish people, or as
a term the Bible uses from Gentiles would gather together
to begin learning and accepting and operating under the Holy
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Spirit when they received it of God through their acceptance
of Jesus the Christ. So original meaning called out or
assembly of people and refers to the people of God,
not just a building. So whenever you see this word
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church anywhere in the New Testament. Again, it is not
talking about one of those buildings with that demonic symbol
sitting on top of it that we know as the
Cross with the stained glass windows. Okay, all that is
just art and architecture that were added on from from
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different cultures over the years. No, it is talking about people, us,
the living, breathing church. Okay, that is what it is
talking about. Whenever you see one of the New Testament apostles,
use the word church. If you see Jesus use the
word church as he's downloading something to one of these apostles,
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this is what he is talking about. The people called out,
called out from what called out from the world, called
out why because they have accepted and believe in Jesus
as their salvation for eternal life. And assembly assembly of
people getting together people would like like mindedness, this new
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like minded common interest any much no different than you
getting together with your coworkers at whatever building where your
job is located, excuse me, or getting together well, the
students at a school or any other example. Okay, the
people that you're in in the grocery store, Okay, yeah,
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you're all going there because you need the items that
it takes to survive same thing, assemblies, assemblies of people.
So the first question that you have to ask yourself
when it comes to that word or that term church hopping,
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if church originally meant called out people or an assembly
of people who've accepted Jesus, okay, church, how can you
hop from being a believer in Christ to being a
believer in Christ right away? It is not making sense whatsoever.
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But that's not what people are talking about when they
use that term whole. No, no, no no. They're talking
about leaving one of these buildings dedicated to a particular
ministry that was established by a human Yeah, talking about
leaving that church going to a different ministry established by
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somebody else, to a different meeting building. That's what they
mean when they say church hopping. But if we take
this word eclsia as its original meaning, yeah, the idea
of church hopping is absolutely ridiculous and it makes no sense.
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Here's let me give you guys an example the way
I'll explain it to people. When I've talked about this
different thing in different well assemblies or gatherings I've been in,
think about school, regular public school, Okay, And I asked
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them do or did you keep the same teacher and
stay in the same classroom from your when you first
step foot into your pre k all the way up
until you graduated twelfth grade? Did you keep the same teacher?
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Did you stay in the same classroom? And people, you know,
I give them a minute and think about it, although
it doesn't even take that long. They're like no, And
I said, okay, why not? They're like, well, because you know,
as you get promoted to different grades, you go to
different classrooms. Then once you get promoted from a certain
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set of grades like elementary school, okay, then you start
attending middle school, and middle school to high school, so
forth and so on. I said, okay, even within that,
did you have the you know, your your English teacher.
Did you keep the same English teacher? Well? No, as
I went to the different grades, got different English teachers.
I said, okay, again, why why the change? So the
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answer ultimately boils down to no, you don't stay in
the same place for all of your learning from pre
K to twelfth grade. And the reason for that is
different teachers specialize in different subjects. Now, yeah, you have
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a few here and there. You know English teacher who
are who knows a bit of history, history teacher who
also knows a bit of math, math teacher who also
knows a bit of biology, biology teacher, you also know
so forth and so on. But generally, no, whatever the
subject is, that's what that that's the one subject that
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that teacher teaches. And then once you've grasped that and
been promoted to the next grade, then you'll have your
next English teacher that can then add a little more
and build off of what the last teacher taught you.
That's why you don't stay in the same classroom. That's
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why you don't keep the same teacher from the menu
you walk into your pre K class up until the
moment you graduate, different teachers have to be able to
teach you different things. You have to learn different things
in order to satisfy the requirements for promotion or graduation.
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The same exact principle when it comes to this Kingdom
of God walk certain people. Yes, you might start off
at one particular let's say ministry, and get everything you
can get there, but eventually it might just be that
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you've gotten everything from that place that God had for
you to get, and then he'll tell you, okay, time
to move on to the next place, because this next
round of teaching I have for you if okay, they're
not equipped to give it to you here. No, nor
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do I have it here for you. I got it
in some place outside of these walls. Time for you
to go, and therein is where the problem starts. Because
a lot, thank god, not all, and y'all, I don't
speak in absolutely okay, but there are a lot of
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these people who run these ministries who try to put
it in your mind because they have it in their
minds that you are supposed to stay there and serve
that ministry. I mean, let's just be honest and literally
until the time you die. Yeah, they believe, and like
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I said, try to tell you that you're you know,
this is where you're supposed to be. Even if it's
the place where you initially got saved, the place where
you initially redeemed yourself back to God by accepting Jesus.
In that place, well, you know, fantastic, awesome, of course,
but that does not mean that that is where you
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are supposed to stay. That just happened to be the
place to where you finally realize, man, I have to
accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior just happened to
be at that place at that time on that day.
That does not make you beholden to that particular ministry,
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because the point has to come to, who are you
gonna listen to and follow these people up here in
these ministries trying to tell you that you heard wrong,
You didn't hear that from God, that you're supposed to
leave that that's just the devil trying to you know,
it's always these people are like Bobby Bouchet's mom. Okay,
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everything is the devil if it don't come from them. Okay,
You're you're gonna listen to them? Or are you gonna
listen to the voice of God with hope or through
hopefully the Holy Spirit that you claim to have in
you and he tells you to yil time to ride on,
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And that's not something that anybody can answer for you.
That's a personal decision. I would hope that you would
choose wisely and listen to the voice of God, because
when it comes down to it, only God knows what
he has for you and where he has it for you. Okay,
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So right off the tippy top here we see that
church did not originally mean and you know, I know
the meaning of words change over time, but quite frankly,
be honest, I don't care how people have grafted it on,
you know, to these these building places. Okay, church called
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out people, assembly, people of God, just like it says.
All right, then we got a little bit more here
the Greek origins. Here's a more detailed explanation. The word
church in the New Testament is the translation of the
Greek word e clysia, which means called out or assembly.
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And remember y'all had assembly you you can assemble yourselves
anywhere anywhere. Think about it this way. Think think of
when they have these these what they call church functions
at a lake or a restaurant or you know, you
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guys go to some some amusement park or something. Well,
you're you're not in a building, then are you. But
you're still believers and you're still assembled together, aren't you?
So you're still you're still the ecclesia. Okay, I mean
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you know this is checkers, it ain't chess. Biblical context
in the New Testament, inclchia refers to the people of God,
the community of believers who have been called out of
the world into a relationship with Christ, exactly exactly what
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I said a few minutes ago. So again I have
to ask the question, if you're one of these believers,
how can you hop being a believer with a relationship
to Christ talking about hopping to another group of being
a believer with a relationship with Christ the last time
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I checked? I mean, yeah, the community part of it
might change, but the foundation and the bare bones of
why you're doing it hasn't changed. And that's these last
well four words, a relationship with Christ. There's only one Christ.
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So what doesn't matter with whom or where you build
and work on this relationship with the one Christ. Whether
I do it sitting inside the building with your name
on it that you came up with, or whether I
do it with a bunch of people down in the park,
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sitting sitting on some park benches, a bund a nice
shade tree, doesn't make any difference. We're called out, we're
assembled together, and we're worshiping, studying and learning to build
this relationship with Christ, the one same Christ. So I
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don't have to stay one place to do this right. Furthermore,
Jesus Matthew twenty eight, Remember way back when what I
call one of our foundation scriptures. Jesus told them, now
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I'm sending you all out into the world. Go into
the world, teaching everything you have been commanded, teaching everything
you've seen. Right, this is Jesus talking. Did Jesus ever
post up in one building? No, I mean yeah, I
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said daily he taught at the temple, But at that okay,
even then, the teaching didn't start or stopped there. These
people were Jewish, so of course they went to the temple,
and first and foremost, the hope, the intent was to
come to his people first because he was their promised
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messiah first, and then after you got rejected from them,
like okay, well I'll make way to spread this to
the rest of the world and we will accept. So, yeah,
he went to the temple. But also we have plenty
of examples teaching by lakes sides, teaching in the courts,
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on ships, traveling from town to town, to town to town,
and not always to another building. A lot of times
these teachings and these parables that he did, Okay, they
were in open fields, open spaces that could accommodate a
large group and large gathering of people, as was usually
the case. So saying all that to say, Jesus himself
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never established that you have to go to one building
or one place and stay there, because that's not what
he did. That's not what they did. And by they,
I mean the original Apostles. They didn't do it while
he was still here with them, and they didn't do
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it after he ascended back into the Third Heaven and
gave us the rest of us the ability to have
the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. They never stayed in
one place. And when you see the word church again
in the New Testament, it's talking about those groups. Wherever
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they went, they ordained elders. They set apostolic foundation and
structure based off the apostles, the prophets, and the teachers,
and the elders to carry it out amongst that group
of people. Because much like Jesus, they were bound in
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human form. They couldn't be every place at once, and
they couldn't just again, they couldn't just stop and post
up in one place, okay, twenty thirty forty years, because
they had the commission to go and teach this to
all the world, all right, Dad, to keep it moving.
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And we are no different from them, because we have
to keep it moving so again notional church hopping. Nah,
that that's some some human man made mess, not scriptural,
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not of Jesus, not of the apostles. Okay, and you
see notne to here evolution of meaning. While the English
word church can now refer to both the building and
the community of believers, see again. Even with that, even
when talking about the evolution of the meaning of the
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word to now include the building, it still ends with
the original meaning of Eclitia emphasizes the people of God
as an assembly or community again, which does not, does not,
does not have to and oftentimes will not take place
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in one building all the time, and for you to
stay there. Okay. So, now that we've laid down the
foundation the origin of the word church, let's go up
here still with our boy prophet you gi. And this
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time I typed in in the search box being a
little more specific with the question what does the Bible
say about church hopping? And here's the answer. The Bible
doesn't explicitly address church hopping, but it emphasizes the importance
of regular church attendants, fellowship and unity within a local
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church community. Okay. No, the way people have interpreted some
of these scriptures may make them think that it emphasizes
the importance of church attendants. But again, if church is
the community of church is us the believers, how do
we tend or attend within ourselves? All? It don't make
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no sense, y'all. Excuse me, let me give us a
wad okay, none whatsoever. Unity within the local church community. Well, God,
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dogg and God say we're supposed to have unity within
our community period, whether it's church based or not. Okay.
And to be dog on arms with y'all. That something
Some of the people I've enjoyed and enjoy actually being
around with. But my dog on anti social self are
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people straight up don't don't go to church and don't
claim to be Christians. Way more tolerable a lot of time,
way more okay. So it goes on to say, here's
a more detailed breakdown. No direct prohibition or no direct
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prohibiting church hopping, so called church hopping. The Bible will
doesn't contain a specific verse condemning or forbidding attending different churches,
and it would not contain it because as far as
the Bible is concerned, again, that was not the original
meaning nor intent of the word church or ecclesia. So
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of course it wouldn't so saying that to say, Okay,
if the Bible does not come out specifically and prohibit
it or speak against it, then why do you have
so many people standing up in these dog gone buildings,
these buildings of religion assembly or religious assembly telling people
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that they are wrong for church hopping or that they
shouldn't be church hopping. Well, I'm gonna answer is simplicity itself.
The same reason they do a lot of this other
idiotic man made stuff that's not directly instructed to us,
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and a lot of times is directly told us not
to participate in that man made add on fleshly Christian
religious worldly m That's why they do it. Now, if
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y'all want to get down to the really real and
get down to brass taxes, as they say, the reason
why so many of them have a problem with it
is because you may be an incredible asset within that
religious organization. They know this, and just like any good job,
they don't want to lose you because you're a helpful asset.
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Or it could be that are when that plate goes
around you, you uh, you know, you drop a nice
stack in there. Okay, you're constantly dropping nice stacks every week,
and they don't want to lose that money or goodness forbid,
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you're a combination of both. Not only are you an
incredible asset to their organization, you drop them fat stacks
as well. And let's just say you might be blessed
to encourage others to drop them fat stacks when they
otherwise might not have. Of course, they don't want to
lose you comes down to money and what you can
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do for their organization. Well, the problem with that is
we weren't called to be organizations, okay, and we also
weren't called to fund these organizations and make sure they're
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you know, bank accounts and stocks and everything else. Stay up, No,
that ain't what we were called for. Well, you know,
I'm sorry. I shouldn't be speaking for everybody. That ain't
what I was called for. And I do so do
thank God the day that he laid that and reveal
that to me through his Holy Spirit, Thank you, Heaven
and following. And it was time to cut it off,
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so they going here. Emphasis on church attendance. Scriptures like
Hebrew ten twenty five encourage believers to not forsake the
assembling of ourselves. Together and to encourage one another. Well,
I've already touched on that we can assemble ourselves together
anywhere and at any time, And all that really means
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is to not forget to or not throw to the
wayside being able to assemble ourselves together, you know, to degree,
I'll excuse me, which I agree with to a degree. Again, y'all,
my natural personality is that I'm an anti social person.
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So even when it comes two matters of kingdom work
and kingdom business, it has to be kingdom work and
kingdom business to get me to go and do it,
because if not, I'm not going, plain and symbol and
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with the authority and direction that we did get from
God the Father and his son Jesus to Christ, I
don't have to go. It is a beautiful, beautiful feeling, Okay,
when you've been pulled out from the brainwashing and when
you've been detoxed from all this traditional mess, it is
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a wonderful, wonderful feeling at the end. Now, of course,
I'll be honest. Does it feels so good at the beginning,
especially when that's what you're used to? Okay, that doesn't
feel good at all? You know, you feel like you're
letting certain people down. But at the end of the day,
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at the end of the day, it goes right back
to that same question. All right, Am I gonna be
more concerned with letting these people down in this organization,
in this building which honestly should not even be existing,
Or am I gonna put my focus on listening to
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the voice of God and moving and operating the way
He has for me to move and operate, because that's
what the true, true blessing is coming from, and my
obedience to God and to God only. So each one
of us has to make that decision, has to have
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that encounter. And then again, as with everything else, with
these matters of the kingdom, Okay, it comes down to
us and us alone. God ain't gonna force us. Sad
to say, a lot of a lot of people let
other humans force them. But God ain't gonna force us.
He ain't gonna force it at all. If that was
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the case, he could have forced us to never sin
again and in all types of or force people to
definitely accept His son as their Lord and savior. Ye,
he ain't did none of that, and he ain't going
to so again. All right. If God doesn't force us.
Then why do a lot of people sit back and
let other humans force them into making these decisions or
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not making these decisions? Mm hmmm, no, never, never, never.
So yeah that this encouraging believers not forsaken ourselves. Well yeah, true,
but again, that doesn't mean it has to be in
a building somewhere, and it doesn't mean it has to
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be every every Sunday. The importance of community. The Bible
emphasizes the importance of being part of a local church
community where believers can support, encourage, and minister one another. Yeah,
well it doesn't that already go back to being part
of this assembly that's assembling to build our relationship with God. Okay,
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it's the same thing. But I noticed something very interesting
here under this one being part of a local church community. Okay,
it doesn't list one single scripture to back it up
or support it, not one at all. Serving and giving,
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it says, the Bible encourages believers to actively serve and
minister to others within their local church. Okay, yep, rather
than simply seeking what they can get from different churches.
And again, there isn't one single scripture referenced under this
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and that's not by accident. It's because they're trying to
force or push man made doctrine and belief into their
because again that there are no different churches, one assembly
one because we're believe in one. We believe in one Christ, one,
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not the whole different from community things. Well, yeah, that's true,
But guess what doesn't matter if it's two communities or
two thousand. Again, if we're coming for the right intentions
and under the right belief, we're still coming to build
the relationship with the One Christ. And even so when
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it comes to these buildings, that goes back to the
example of being in school. If God instructs you to
go to a different building because there's something there that
He has for you to get, or there's something there
that He actually has for you to do, you get
so worried and wrapped up in concern with this whole
(36:46):
idiotic notion of church hopping, and you don't go to
that next place that God instructs you to. Well, guess
what what he had for you now you're not going
to get And even more important, what he had for
you to do is now not going to get done.
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And that can cause all types of a domino effect
and windfall, and yes, what ladies and gentlemen, you're gonna
have to answer for that when you stand before God.
We would have to answer for that when we stand
before God, for being disobedient because we were so concerned
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with what the leader of my church or my family church,
so concerned with what the family would say if I
leave from here that the assignment God had for us
and now left undone or the blessing. You've been sitting
there praying and talking brain and talking brain and talking
about God. This blessing and breakthrough you need. Okay, you
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need it, and you really really want it. It's across town.
You gotta go over there and get it. Oh no, no, no,
I can't do that because man, but this is this
is the church of my great grandparents and my grandparents
and my mama, and this the Okay, Well, now you
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just prolonged receiving whatever it is you've been praying and
bugging God for the past six months, and they're gonna
have the nerve to get mad at him like it's
his fault. Lord, I don't on the step. I've been
praying and fasting and paying my tithes and this that
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and this with Okay, well he told you where to
go to get it. You were the one so concerned
about what your family and what the leader here was
gonna say if you left. Don't don't put that on guy.
It's all you. And that's something that humans because remember, y'all,
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the clock is winding down, okay, the little the little
grains of sand in the hourglass, Okay, they're they're they're
trickling down to a few that there is not a
whole whole lot of time left. And as I've always
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said in the past, people had better get out of
this temporal way of thinking. Temporal temp temporary, short term,
not long lasting. Our existence here in this flesh on
on this plane of reality that we call life, it's temporal, okay,
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because outside of a few people actually mentioned in the Bible,
nobody lives forever. Nobody lives forever. And the whole point,
once we redeem ourselves back to God through Jesus, is
to then go about finding out and then executing the
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assignments that God has for us, because, believe it or not,
every human that has that is and that will walk
this planet, he has something for them to do, or
some things for them to do. And once we truly
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give ourselves to God, then that's what the thoughts of
our life is supposed to be about. Doing His will,
his way, not ours, not ours, and that can have
the most important and profound effect on where we end
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up spending our eternal which is what we definitely need
to focus on. Eternal is just say eternal. It is
never ending. Ever, we are eternal based beings that are
just living, that are just living through a temporal okay,
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short term existence on this plane in this reality. But
this ain't it for us, those of us who choose
believe that this ain't it. So if Jesus had to
go about doing the work, if the Apostles had to
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go about doing the work, going here, there and every
which awaken, town to town, country to country wherever they
ended up at, then what the heck makes us think
that we're supposed to is go accept Jesus and then
park our behind on the same pew until the time
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that we pass away. However many years that maybe and
think that our service is only supposed to be to
that organization and what they feel we're supposed to be
doing for them. What what makes us think that, y'all
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where Jesus and the apostles did work where they had
to get out and move go to different places. Again, y'all, Okay,
this is checkers that it is not chess. Okay, what's
this say right here? Considerations why the Bible doesn't explicitly
forbid attending multiple churches. It's important to consider the potential
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impact on unity involved and spiritual growth within a local
church community. Well you know what, Yeah, I agree with
the last part of this spiritual growth is the name
of the gaming. Mm hmm, the impact on unity. Why
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would people leaving from one group go into another group
impact the unity because ultimately, you're supposed to We're only
supposed to be concerned with what the Father wants, not
not making other humans happy and you know, worried about
their feelings. It ain't a feelings game. So yeah, you're right,
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spiritual growth. And if that spiritual growth takes you to
ten different dog on ministries in Milne, well then old well,
old well, that's what God has for you to do.
If whoever don't like it, too freaking bad, think keep
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this question matter of fact, it should be the question
on the foremost of all of our minds. Am I
gonna be concerned about humans and what they want, or
am I gonna be concerned about doing what God wants?
Very rarely the two interests do actually aligned, and then
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a lot of times they don't align. What God has
for us to do doesn't line up with what humans
want us to do or how they feel about a
situation or something. See this consideration that that's what this
is trying to lean people into. To worry about how
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the people in your church or in that ministry would
feel about you attending a different church or even multiple churches. Again, y'all,
if that's what God is commanding, do it, do it.
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Because as Jesus so eloquently put it, do not fear
those that can only kill the body, because that's all
they can do. Now, thanks for your You know, a
lot of ministries people ain't go that far. Now. At
the most, there will be a character assassination. Oh yeah,
they're gonna talk cold cast junk about you, all right.
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They ain't gonna actually take you up out of here,
like I said. Mostly, But then Jesus came back and said,
fear the one who can kill the body and send
the soul to hell. And again that ain't no human
that ain't no human that ever was, is or will
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be that has the ability to send us to help. So, yeah,
you're trying to tell you better be concerned with the
things of the Father because ultimately that's what you're gonna
have the answer to, you know. What's to say here
on the examples in the early Church, believers gathered in
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homes or public places, and there is no indication that
towns or cities had multiple groups of believers meeting in
separate locations. Okay, that made sense because you're talking about
in the early Church. It wasn't multitudes and multitudes of them. Okay. Yeah,
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Today if you look at us to tickets, I forget
how many millions of people are claimed to be Christians. Okay, yeah,
that down with. We're a couple of millennial removed from
the early Church. So of course there wouldn't be multiple
groups in separate locations because there weren't multiple believers to
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meet in separate locations. But what the Bible does very
clearly tells us is in those different towns and cities
there were different groups. Why would somebody in Greece go
all the way to dog one Rome, okay to be
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a believer there when there's already a group around them
there that's already been established. So in other words, of course,
and then also remember Jesus wor a worshiping Jesus and
accepted him. That that was new to the game. So
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just like today, you had a lot of people who
weren't ready to outwardly show their acceptance and devotion to him.
So again you still wouldn't have had large groups or
multitudes of people. So I'm really not sure you know
what I'm saying why this example is okay, trying and
trying to flex like this, because it doesn't make sense
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in the context of what we're talking about. But even then, okay, yeah,
that was the early church were talking here in the
twenty twenty five. So multiple places have been established in
separate locations. And if God's will is for us to
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visit a handful, participate, and do whatever it is in
those handful of locations, well then that's just what it is,
all right. So I think we will stop from man,
I need not realize, almost been hour already, Okay, so
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we're gonna stop right here. I mean, I already knew
there was gonna be a part two to this and
might actually end up being a part three because of
what we were going what I got up here. Yeah, yeah,
this is gonna go on the membership and again what
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the original meaning of the word members is in the body.
So yeah, yeah, I'll stop right there for the night,
and Lord willing, we will pick this up with part two.
So there it is. Guys. Already we've established that church
and its original meaning did not mean building and meant
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assemblies or groups of people. And we've already established that
the Bible says absolutely nothing about the condemnation of church hopping, which,
like I said, it wouldn't because in the context of
the word church in the Bible, it wasn't talking about
the building. And again that how can I hop over
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to me somewhere that it doesn't make sense, which, of
course is man made, which means it was fueled. Not
gonna say it was made. He didn't make him do it,
but it was definitely fueled by Satan and unclean spirits,
because remember, the whole name of their game is, especially
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with believers, to get in there and cause confusion and division.
So we don't play that game here. Okay, we played
Satan games long enough, we ain't doing it no more. Okay.
But the most important thing is do you have you
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known Jesus as your own personal Lord and savior. The
same people who would get on you and talk to
you about church hopping would be the same people that
will make you think, okay, if you want to accept Jesus,
have him as the Lord and savior, or you have
to attend one of these ministries or one of these buildings. No,
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you don't, No, you do not, okay. If you have
the faith, and faith means you have to believe it
for yourself. No, nobody can change your mind. Nobody can
sway you. You believe yourself deep down that Jesus is
in fact the living son of God the Father, and
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more importantly, that he shed his blood, and his shed
blood can wash you clean and redeem you back to
God the Father. And you're thinking yourself, Okay, I believe this,
but what's the next step? You know, the next step is, Jesus,
I believe you're real, and I believe you're the living
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son of God the Father, and I believe that you
actually died for my sins and shared your blood. So
use that blood to wash me clean spiritually and redeem
me back to the Father, because I believe you're the
only way that this is going to happen. You're the
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only way that I'm ever going to get to be
with you and the Father for eternity. That's literally how
you do it for those people. Heyen, Unfortunately, you have
some people who because of a medical condition, okay, they
can't speak, something going on in their mouth. So you
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think that God would just say, oh, well, since you
can't speak and verbalize this, well you're just lost. Okay.
If they have a healthy enough mind, you can think it.
Think the exact same thing, because as the scripture showed
us when it comes to Jesus and God the Father,
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they examined the heart, and our thoughts come from our heart,
not this muscle here in our chest. Okay, better word
for it would be our soul. That's where our thoughts
come from. So you can think the exact same thing. Hey, Jesus,
(53:30):
I'm thinking, you're the son of the living God. You
shed your blood for my sins. I believe you say. Okay,
think it. If you have to write it down, do
whatever it takes. But you do not have to do
it within a building. You don't have to do it
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within a group of other people who believe and accepted Jesus.
You do it where whenever you feel that pool, whenever
you know beyond the shadow of a doubt, you do
it right then and there. I don't care if you're
sitting on the toilet about to shoot the deuce. I mean,
(54:13):
it just is what it is. Let's be real. Whenever
and however you feel it, that's when you make that declaration.
I know I'm a sinner. I know I am heading
for eternal damnation. I don't want that because I also
know Jesus You're the only way that can save me.
Just let them know. Speak it, think it, write it down. Ever,
(54:38):
you got to get it out there, but get it
out there, and then once you do it, like okay, Father, I'll,
you know, confess to your son. Now I'm a sinner.
I believe that His blood wash me clean, redeem me
back to you. Now. I need you to send your
Holy Spirit to endwell within me, to greatly activate the
(55:01):
gifts that you put in me, so I can now
go about and do whatever it is that you want
me to do. Lord, for your kingdom and your glory,
not mine, not religions, not churches, the modern church. No
yours God, and please please send kingdom minded people in
(55:24):
my path that will help me get started and help
me along the way. So yep, y'all, hurry up, come
on now, send that holy spirit of Yours dwell within me.
And once you've done that, hey, you know what I'm saying,
do a little woohoo. Find somebody, give them a high five. Celebrate,
(55:45):
because that's exactly what they're doing for you in heaven
when you get, well, I shouldn't they get when you
accept Jesus as your Lord and savior. They are celebrating
because they know that it's one more soul that has
been snatched, okay, out of the hand of Satan and
they will not be spending eternity with him in the
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lake of fire and eternal torment. Now on the flip
side of that, oh, Satan definitely gonna be mad. And
if he never bothered you or came after you before,
you better believe he's coming with the full court press.
Now that's all right, You gotta definger. You got an advocate,
you got guardian angels, you have a whole Kingdom of
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God all right standing behind you, beside you, in front
of you, so don't shirk, don't get scared, and definitely
do not ignore the instruction of God when it comes
to this kingdom walk, because again, there is no such
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thing as church hopping. So you go wherever God instructs
you to go and do whatever God instructs you to do,
wherever it may be, however many places it may be.
All right, all right, well, y'all is always this old
country boy does. Thank y'all for joining me. Listen to
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me joeing about it, and God willing we will be
back next week to do it all again, to continue on.
And this study of church hopping is not real, Okay,
So guys, y'all be safe, y'all be blessed. Treat yourselves well,
but seek to treat other people better, even if you
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have to do it from afar. Remember all humans try
to treat people the exact same way you would like
to be treated. Oh and before I check off here again,
I want to thank my co host who joined me
last week for the one hundred episode Liars. So again,
thank you Apostles Calvin and Camilla Mays. Thank you Apostle
(58:06):
Doctor Maurice T. Bell, Thank you Prophet this Coretta Roberts.
Thank you for the people who are coming in the
comment and join us, rose as See appreciate you, and
of course always the regular commenter slash conversator on these videos,
Son Dormant. No, no, you couldn't make it. But I
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was definitely sad about that. But hey, you know, God willing,
you'll make it for the next one. But thank you
all for your continued support, and thank all of you
out there for your continued support. I made the announcement
there there's a man. There's several new projects that are
gonna be starting up within the next several months, and
(58:51):
I'll make sure to announce those as they as they
come about or about to come about, about to come about. No,
I'll make sure to announce those winning Thomas right there
we go. I mean, I'm know, I'm a country, but
you know, sometimes you gotta got to try to pretty
it up a little bit, so, you know. But seriously,
(59:12):
thank y'all, Thank y'all so much, And here's to the
next one hundred episodes and even beyond and everything else
that God is tasking me to do. So yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna be hopping. We are definitely gonna be hopping.
With whichever direction he tells me to hop to, I
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will hop to it because I know that is where
my blessings lie, that my obedience to Him, not the
concerns and the feelings of other humans. Okay, okay, so yep,
let me stop it right there, so God, take care,
love y'all, and I will see you when we see you. Peace,
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